Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Fixing the WNBA pay gap, 76ers beat Heat, Jontay Porter gets banned

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss how the WNBA players can close the pay gap with their NBA counter parts, Joel Embiid's fourth quarter heroics catapulting the Philadelphia 76ers pas...t the Miami Heat into a first round matchup with Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks, Jontay Porter receiving a lifetime ban from the NBA for violating the league's gambling rules and much more. 0:00 Introduction3:50 Unc shows off his Bayou Barbie Angel Reese jacket23:00 76ers defeat Heat to clinch 7th seed32:45 Bulls defeat Hawks39:30 Zion Williamson will not play in game vs Kings due to hamstring injury46:55 Jontay Porter gets banned for life from NBA for gambling #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:56 Hi, wearing that Bayou Barbie gear. I am your favorite. I'm Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite. Number 85. Rock runner extraordinaire. That's him. Ring of Fame honoree for the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Pro bowler for the Bengals. All pro for the Bengals. Liberty City's on. He reps hard for the city. Chad Ochocinco. Y'all know him as Mr. Real Rosado. His real last name is Johnson. So, Chad
Starting point is 00:02:23 Ochocincoco Real Rosado Johnson, hyphenated Johnson that is. Please, thank you guys. Make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. And thank you so much for helping Nightcap grow to the length that we've grown. Thank you. Thank you so
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Starting point is 00:03:28 We are nominated, Ocho, Nightcap, Webby, best podcast, best sports podcast, that is. Currently, we're in first place. We have two nominations for Club Shea Shea also. So to have two podcasts and to be nominated for three awards,
Starting point is 00:03:43 I want to thank you guys for making all of that possible. So thank you guys. Continue to vote. And thank you. I buy you, Barbie. Thank you, Angel Reese, for sending your favorite on. That's my niece, y'all. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Time out, man. What'd that say? What'd that say back there? Angel Reese. Time out. Time out. time out time out time out time out time out time out my knees hook it up look at that number 10 what does she got on here what'd she say unapologetically me she got unapologetically her what are you Barbie. That's me. That's more representation of me. You know, with that slogan, unapologetically me, is really how I've carried myself all my life.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So I'm trying to understand Angel Reese, sister. I'm sorry, where mine at? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Angel Reese, how that your boy? Man, let me get a jacket. No. Whoa, whoa, whoa, Ocho? I mean, can I whoa. Ocho? You don't need me.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I mean, can I get something in peace? No, you getting everything. You get the awards. You got the liquor. You get the awards, too. Yeah, but they come to you first. And now she's sending you jackets. Angel Reese, man, holla at your boy, man.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Send your boy something, man. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Send your boy something, man. Come on, now. Come on, y'all. You got to do right now. Can you see that? What'd I say?
Starting point is 00:05:09 Angel Reese? Yep. Yeah, man. Come on, man. Sis, holla at your boy now. Angel Reese. She over there in Chicago, right? Bayou Barbie.
Starting point is 00:05:19 She over there in Chicago, right? Yeah. Listen, her name ain't even Bayou Barbie no more. She got a new name because she in Chicago now. So her new name is Big Reese. Nope, nope, nope. Yeah, I'm saying her new nickname is Big Reese.
Starting point is 00:05:33 But you got to keep that. You don't understand. Hopefully she got that, she copyrighted. No, she in Chicago. You not understand it. See, you missing the point. You missing the whole little lingo. She Big Reese now. So let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yes, sir. So let me ask you a question. So Debo should change his name since he ain't in the South no more, huh? I'm just saying, if she's in Chicago, that means she's more so of a resident of Chicago now. So the name change has to go because Bayou Barbie doesn't flow
Starting point is 00:06:01 once you in Chirac. So she going from Little Reese to Big Reese. It just makes sense. That Bayou Barbie, that thing catchy. I mean, that thing just grabs you. It's catchy, but it ain't catchy in Chicago. That's what I'm trying to explain to you. I guarantee you that's how they're going to refer to her.
Starting point is 00:06:20 She got that name. Yo, I changed the name. Her name now is Big Reese. Big Reese. Yeah. I mean, she'll understand it and the young folk will understand it. You ain't going to understand it because you old. Oh, I understand. Bayou Barbie.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I think Bayou Barbie, you got to understand like when you coming out with merchandise, you got to think, okay, what's going to resonate? When you hear Bayou Barbie, what you think? What's the first name come to your mind? Angel Reese? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah. But when you're Chicago. That's how you got to think when you're talking about a product. Listen, we know what else is going to resonate. When you're playing in Chicago and they go, hey, they go Big Reese, they're going to know what it is right off back. It's going to flow real smooth. She understand.
Starting point is 00:07:04 The chat know what I. She understand. The chat know what I'm talking about. The chat know what I'm talking about. It doesn't sound like... You're not understanding, baby. You got to catch up with the times.
Starting point is 00:07:18 You using that old technology. Nah. Bayou Barbie resonates. Bayou Barbie is catchy. You got to have something that rolls off the tongue. You got to have something that when the people hear, they automatically think. When you hear in football, when you hear the sheriff, who do you think of? Peyton Manning.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Right. But see, it's hard for me to explain it to you in terms that you understand, unless you know the background about people in Chicago that have the name and the name I'm referring to. So Big Reese, it really makes sense based on her being in Chicago at this time. Now, it's going to be hard for me. Ocho, I don't like to, you know, I don't think I'm breaking a lot of news to anybody else, but I was born in Chicago. Wait a minute. Hold on. You and you and you and gd2 with me and obama no no okay okay let me know i didn't know you were born in chicago okay talk i was yes okay well how you got way how you got way to the country then the question is how my mom got
Starting point is 00:08:20 way to chicago no well my dad. My dad brothers, well, they're all from Reesville, but they ended up going to you know, look, during that time you get the hell out of the South. It was a great migration. You went to Detroit, you went to Chicago, you went to New York, you would get the hell away from the South
Starting point is 00:08:40 because of Jim Crow, because of segregation, and you wanted at least some resemblance of a chance to make it. So blacks were leaving by the thousands. As soon as they graduated high school, they're like, I'm leaving here by hook or crook. A lot of men joined the military to get the hell away from there. And a lot of them went because, you know, Detroit, the car, the automobile industry, New York was, you know, up and come in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:09:08 But they wanted to get away from what the South had to offer. Right. And so my dad went there. My mom, my mom had already had my sister. Hey, she like, hey, we go we go to Chicago. My mom went to New York for a little while and ended up in Chicago. My mom's still there. My mom's been there since 19. Often on basically she's been there since 62. So my mom's been there over 60 years. Right. So how often,
Starting point is 00:09:31 I never hear you really talk about Chicago. How often do you visit Chicago in general? Or it's just, you don't really visit it much. Not often. Okay. My mom, my mom comes to,
Starting point is 00:09:44 my mom comes to visit me. Cause I don't know anything. I left when I hear you. My mom comes to visit me because I don't know anything. I left when I was two. So I haven't really had no connections. Really, really nothing. I've only been back home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Right. Nothing there really resonates with you. Nah, nah, nah. Yeah. I'd never forget, man. Those, I'm saying, you know, I have extensive, I have extensive ties to Chicago.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And I just, I'm just, just the reflection. And when me and Obama were younger back in those days, I mean, we had some good times. Obviously, we went in two different career paths. Him obviously going on to be the president of the United States and me going on to
Starting point is 00:10:16 play in the NFL. And everything has come full circle. And just seeing how far we've come from where we started is commendable on both parts. Yeah. A lot of people, Ocho, a lot of people in the South being born in the South, you picked cotton, you did manual labor. Whoa, cotton?
Starting point is 00:10:34 Oh, yeah, cotton was big in the South. You're not that old, man. What you talking about? No, I'm saying my parents. Oh, my parents. No, no, no, no, no. Are you scared before me? that old, man. What you talking about? No, I'm saying my parents. Oh, my parents. No, no, no, no, no. By the time I came along, they were no longer
Starting point is 00:10:50 picking cotton by hand. They had machines to pick the cotton. But back then, they didn't have no... You were the machine. Your black ass was the machine. So all the things, like, I'm looking now how they do all this stuff. I'm like, y'all got machines to plant all these crops?
Starting point is 00:11:05 We planted that stuff by hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, technology came along. Matter of fact, if you think about it, think of how everything is evolving now, where AI...
Starting point is 00:11:18 Not soon enough. Not soon enough, but... They done got my black ass out in them fields. Yeah, but this is the thing. You talk about not soon enough, but in a minute, ain't gonna be no job for us because technology and computers and AI
Starting point is 00:11:30 is taking over everything, so there's gonna be no need for the human in a minute. Well, they don't need my boy, and they can't, and I ain't telling my jokes to the AI machine. I ain't telling it. So you're gonna have so much information. But, uh,
Starting point is 00:11:45 oh, so that's what it information. But, uh, what we got? Oh, so that's what it was. So, Angel, again, thank you so much. Best of luck to you and Camilla, the Twin Towers, the new Twin Towers in Chicago. Oh, that's right. Cardozo there, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, somebody, Angel Reese, Angel Reese, send your
Starting point is 00:12:00 boy a jacket, man. Holla, holla. I'm a large. I'm a large. Miss Cardozo, if you got anything. Matter of fact, you know what? Any WNBA players, I want to support you. If you got any type of apparel, man, send it to my PO box. Just holla at your boy. I'm a large.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I'm coming to the game. You know what we got to do? We got to go to the games. We got to go to the games. Okay. We got to go to the games. Listen, the people, the world in general, we need to support the WNBA.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I'm definitely going to a Las Vegas Aces game. Yeah. I got to see Asia and Kelsey. Yeah, and Chelsea. They nice. They be hooping. So I'm definitely going to a Las Vegas Aces game. I have one question.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I don't mean to jump off topic. I know we talked about Angel Reese and them young ladies in Chicago and Vegas Aces game. I have one question. I don't mean to jump off topic. I know we talked about Angel Reese and them young ladies in Chicago and the Aces. What do we need to do? Obviously, you would know better than I am. As far as the pay, the pay,
Starting point is 00:12:57 the pay to get the pay up to where it should be. Because I saw, obviously, on Twitter what Kaitlyn Clark's pay would be this year and come on now. That has to go with advertisers. That has to go with sponsors. That goes with
Starting point is 00:13:16 television rights and things of that nature. There's a reason why NFL because you have to realize the league is only 20 plus years old. NFL, sir. NFL didn't always make this money. MLB and NBA players didn't always make this money. But as the television rights grew, as teams expanded and sponsors and advertisers realized the reach that athletes have, then advertisers, sponsors, television rights all of a sudden got on because
Starting point is 00:13:45 it's still live events is where it's at. Right. Football, mainly NFL, mainly NFL, especially in North America. Yes, sir. But it's the live events. It's the football, the MLB, the NBA. But give the women time.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Eventually, they're going to get there. Now, they're not going to make what the men make. They're not going to make what the men make. They're not going to make that, but I get what you're saying. It needs to be much, much better than what I saw yesterday. That's going to come with advertising. That's going to come with sponsorship. That's going to come with TV rights.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And hopefully, with this new crop of women led by Caitlin Clark and Cameron Brink and Rike Jackson. Rikea Jackson. women led by Caitlin Clark and Cameron Brink and Rick, uh, uh, Ricky Jackson, Ricky Jackson, excuse me. Uh, Cardosa,
Starting point is 00:14:30 uh, Angel Reese with those influx combined with what's already there. Now you talk about Asia Wilson. You got a DT, you got a breeze door, right? You got a John Quayle Jones. You got an S group.
Starting point is 00:14:42 You got the, you got talent. That's already there. Yeah. already there infused with this new talent. Yes, sir. So hopefully they can build on the momentum that's been generated over the last several years, and it starts growing. And also with the public, the eyes, the viewership, the people attending the games, making sure the games sell out, that also helps as well as far as... Yeah, for sure. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:09 But it comes down to sponsorship. It comes down to the big agencies, the big corporations wanting to be a part of this like they want to be a part of the NFL, like they want to be a part of the NBA, like they want to be a part of MLB. And that's when the revenue grows. And think about
Starting point is 00:15:27 also TV rights. There's a reason why they added an extra game. You see what the NBA did? They added a play-in. Guess what we get? We get three extra games. So we got two last night. We got two tonight. The losers both play again.
Starting point is 00:15:43 So guess what? We got three extra games. Yeah. Boom. Advertisers pay for it. I mean, TV pay for that. NFL, what did they do? They used to play 12 games. Then they went to 14. Then they went to 16. They added 17. Guess what? It used
Starting point is 00:16:00 to be six playoff teams. They got seven. Baseball, they got to play in. You see how they do it yeah you want more you got to give them more right so you know they're trying to add teams to the wmba yep they have a team from here in florida uh but all things being equal you know what needs to happen? Yes, sir. Men talking,
Starting point is 00:16:28 women need to go take their ass to the games too. That's what needs to happen. Right. Women need to support women. Right. Women are the biggest haters of women. I ain't breaking news to nobody. I ain't never thought about it like that.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I know you didn't. Yeah. That's what women need to go. Go to the game thought about it like that. I know you didn't. Yeah. That's where women need to go. Go to the game, women. You think so? Even in their sport, though? I ain't talking about their sport. They play the sport.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I'm talking about women go sit, dance in the stands and watch. Oh, yeah, I see what you mean. That's what I'm talking about. I ain't talking about that. Matter of fact, think about this. Think about the turnout. I hate using a comparison like this. Think about how the women come out in droves when it's a Beyonce concert.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yeah. Or it's a Nicki Minaj concert. Or it's a Meg Thee Stallion concert. Or Lotto. Yes. Or any of those young ladies. Right. If they got the same support and had that same energy when it came to the WNBA, things would be different.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Yes. I know one thing. I know what I'm doing this year when they league start. I'm from the city hop and go support it. Everybody, everybody from the WNBA that send me a jersey or a jacket, I'm going to the game.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I had to wrap the jacket because you know what I do is that you know what I do. How you got the jacket? That's what I'm trying to understand. She's trying to sell merchandise. So what you do? You send it to me. Let me ask you a question. When Pharrell Williams took over as the creative director of Louis Vuitton,
Starting point is 00:17:51 who was the first athlete he gave stuff to? Me. LeBron James. I had it first. What you got? Let me see. You want me to show it to you? Yeah, let me see it. Let me see the 2024 stuff. Okay, hold on. I'm going to show you a jacket real quick. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Man, get out of here. Man, for real, we wouldn't even dare to die in no mess like that. You look like you're standing on the yard at Pelican Bay. What you talking about? Boy, this Louis Vuitton 2025, this ain't even out yet. What you talking about? And hopefully it don't come out. Hopefully you have the only sample piece.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Hey, you hold on. Look, you see the material? You know what this is? Mm-hmm. Huh? Yeah. It's alpaca. Alfalfa?
Starting point is 00:18:39 No, alpaca. Now, you can't even get this. Hey, this $25,000 flannel right here. Alpaca. No. Hold on, let me put this back because I got to put it back in the glass case. Yeah, the mouth love it.
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Starting point is 00:19:49 Subscribe today and you'll immediately be smarter and funnier than your friends. And who doesn't want that? Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Man, I thought you was bringing me out something that was made of vicuña. Oh, no. Hey, listen. You know what vicuña is? Who?
Starting point is 00:20:13 Yeah, I didn't think so. What's the name? What's the name? Vicuña. What's vicuña? It's very expensive material the suit started the suit started about 25 30 000 oh well shoot that alpaca i just showed you now you know you listen you spend anything on that if you spill anything on that hey but if you but but if you think about, that's how it goes. These, be it Louis Vuitton or Gucci or Tiffany's.
Starting point is 00:20:49 They go to the most visible. The athletes are the most visible. There you go. Yeah. So, so, so niece, niece in it to her aunt. Yeah. Put this out there for me. She said, put this on.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Gotcha. No problem. Wow. put this out there for me. She said, put this on. Gotcha. No problem. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:09 PSA, dear WNBA players, I'm Chad. I would love to wear your merch in public and on nightcap. We're going to get you. We're going to get you. We'll get you a jacket. Yeah, I want everybody's stuff now. I want everybody's stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:22 In exchange for your apparel, I will be showing up to a game to wear a courtside. Thank you. I appreciate it. You sent it. I'll pay for everything else. Yep. And I'm going to purchase the league. Hey, purchase the league pass. Oh, you late. I've been did that.
Starting point is 00:21:37 It's only 37 bucks. I'm going to get the league pass. I'm going to be watching some games. Because like I said, aces on my team. It used to be the Comets. But I know... Time out, time out, time out. You're going to jump way from LA all the way to Vegas, and you're a Laker fan.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Look, I used to like the Comets. I like Cynthia Cooper. I like Cooper and Swoop. Yeah, Cooper and Knight. Oh, they were nice in their day. They were nice, boy. Yeah. But you know, Asia is the lady game cop. So, you know, I got to cheer for the lady game cop. That's right.
Starting point is 00:22:12 So, I got to rock with them. Asia played a two or a three. She's mainly a four. Okay, okay, okay. So, she'd be like 80. She's basically like 80. Yeah, okay, okay. So she'd be like 80. She's basically like 80.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Yeah, she'll play to five, but her game has expanded so much. She really wasn't a, didn't shoot the three. She can shoot the three now. She got a mid-range shot, kind of like Breonna Stewart. Breonna Stewart, her game,
Starting point is 00:22:40 she can shoot the three. She can take your mid-range, pull up, she can play with her back to the basket. That's why her and Asia, they're the two best players in the wmba right because of the expansion because how they've expanded their game right yeah oh yeah they're unbelievable and you i love to see them i love to see them bang go go head to head yeah so uh it's it's uh it's it's a great matchup the wNBA is in great hand because as these older players the DT
Starting point is 00:23:08 starts to move on Asia's already settled in Brianna Stewart is already settled in you got a Nescu and now you bring Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese and you bring Cameron Brink and you bring Camila Cardosa and you know they got
Starting point is 00:23:24 Full Wiley coming. They got other guys. Hey, Paige Beckers is coming next year. Good hands. Good hands. Yeah. Yeah. I like that.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I like that. Ocho, let's get to the game tonight. The Philadelphia 76ers beat the Miami Heat in the 7-8 play-in game. And now they're the number seven seed. And so now they will face the Knicks on Saturday. Nicholas Batum came off the bench, had a monster game with a season-high 20 points on six made threes.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Excuse me. Joel Embiid led all scores with 23 points on six and 17 shootings, 15 rebounds, five assists. The Sixers winning the halftime down 51-39. We're constantly booed by the Philly Faithful. We know how the Philly fans are. And they had 12 first half turnovers. Philly bench got it going, led by Batum.
Starting point is 00:24:12 They had 36 points. The bench did. Led by Batum's 20. A pivotal block on Hero late in the fourth quarter to seal the game. This puts Philly into the playoff series as the number seven seed, which is huge because it lets them avoid the Boston Celtics in the first round. The Knicks will be a tough matchup, no doubt.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Jalen Brunson is playing unbelievable. They did get Mitchell Robinson back. OG came back. OG Ananobis back. So this is going to be a tough matchup. According to Shams, Jimmy Butler is feared to have suffered an MCL injury and probably will miss the matchup. Who would they play?
Starting point is 00:24:47 They would. They're playing the Hawks. No, they'll play the Bulls because the Bulls won. No. The Bulls won. The Heat played the Bulls. The Bulls beat the Hawks. The Hawks are eliminated.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Hawks out. Okay, okay, okay. You're right. You're right. You're right, you're right. Yeah, yeah. But listen, I don't think, knowing Jimmy Butler, I don't know the extent of his injury,
Starting point is 00:25:12 but knowing him, even though it's the MCL, I know that's very, very important. He ain't playing. Very important. I don't think he gonna miss no time. He gonna miss some time. If it's the MCL, he ain't playing.
Starting point is 00:25:21 That's if it's the MCL. I think Shams is suggesting that's what it might be, right? He's not reporting that's what it is. Which one is it? Because he continued playing the rest of the game. But you know how injuries are. Sometimes you're able to finish the game
Starting point is 00:25:37 because of the adrenaline. And then that thing, I've had a teammate that played, he tore his ACL on the first play on kickoff and played the rest of the game.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Whoa, it must have been a partial tear. Tear! Tore it. Oh, God, the hell?
Starting point is 00:25:56 Hey, kept playing. Chained it up, told him to knee hurt, but he'll be okay. Right. Finished the game. ACL,
Starting point is 00:26:05 done for the season. Ugh! So, tonight, let's see. Tyler Hero had 25, Bam out of bio, had 10. Jimmy Butler had 19. They got 10 points off the bench
Starting point is 00:26:21 from Kevin Love, and they got 15 off the bench from their rookie, Jaime Haw got 15 off the bench from their rookie, Jaime Jaquez Jr. But they couldn't hold that lead because Nicholas Batum came off the bench. He made six of 10 threes. And he was cutting up from three, man. I don't know who, buddy. And you know, we didn't, we didn't,
Starting point is 00:26:36 me, we, I'm talking about we. Obviously, I'm from Miami, so I am a Heat fan for those that don't know. Watching the game, I thought we had the game in hand. And the one thing that I've learned about the game of basketball, the times that I have watched it, I don't know. Watching the game, I thought we had the game in hand. And the one thing that I've learned about the game of basketball, the times that I have watched it, I don't watch it very often,
Starting point is 00:26:49 but obviously I'm locked in and focused because it was a playing game. I'm like, oh, well, goddamn it. At the half, I'm like, you know what? I'm good. I'm going to go out here. I'm going to smoke a cigar and listen to a little bit of Frank Sinatra
Starting point is 00:26:58 and I'm going to come back for the fourth quarter because I know we're going to be up. I come back in front of the TV. Well, goddamn, we down by two. I'm like, come back for the fourth quarter because I know we're going to be up. I come back in front of the TV. Well, God damn, we down by two. I'm like, what the hell happened? Now, I understand the game of basketball is a game of runs. And I'm like, where'd Buddy come from? Buddy come from out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:27:19 And obviously, with Embiid not being as healthy and effective as we're normally used to seeing him be when he's healthy, we're supposed to win this game. You're supposed to take advantage of him not being fully healthy and not being as effective as he normally is. And we still lose. Miami played a lot of zone because obviously you don't have
Starting point is 00:27:40 anybody to do anything with Joel Embiid. And they forced the Sixers to turn the ball over a lot in the first half because they were really stagnant. They were just standing around like, okay, who's going to do something? You've got to swing the ball. Sometimes the ball has got to touch the middle and then go to
Starting point is 00:27:55 the weak corner or the strong corner. But they were just standing around. Once they started moving the balls, once they started, hey, everybody stopped standing around, guys found creases, guys hit shots. Nicholas Batum was the biggest reason Once they started moving the balls, once they started, hey, everybody stopped standing around. Guys found creases, guys hit shots. Nicholas Batum was the biggest reason because all of a sudden he expanded because he started shooting over the top of the zone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:17 And once he started shooting like that, it pulls everything else out. It pulls everything else out. Now you got the guard in. Yep. And now you could, now Joel Embiid is able to find a little crease. But like I said, Joe is not healthy. And that's very, very unfortunate. But he still was able to give you 23, 15, 9 to 10 free throws. He gets to the free throw line a lot.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Kelly Oubre came on, played really well late in the game. Tyrese Maxey was Tyrese Maxey. They're going to need a little bit more out of Tobias Harris if they want to get past the Knicks. But I think this is going to be a great series. It has the potential to go at least six. I'm thinking probably seven games. Wait, who
Starting point is 00:28:55 you got in that series? Man, for me, if Joel Embiid was healthy, I would take Joel. I would take the Sixers all the way. 1,000%. Right. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:29:07 Because Stephen A is going to take the Knicks and I'm going to try to get a bet out of him. I ride with the Sixers. I rock with the Sixers. I like it. I like it. But Jalen Brunson, I'm trying to think
Starting point is 00:29:17 who's going to draw the assignment on Brunson. Probably Kelly Oubre. Probably they'll run Oubre Jr. and Tobias Harris those those are their best perimeter defenders oh kyle lowry kyle lowry's a bulldog no no no no no no no no no and listen it's tough but everybody you just named and that's no disrespect to those young fellas but we on an iso game pick game even he taking him off the dribble in general. He's at an advantage from a
Starting point is 00:29:48 skill set perspective. I like the length of Harris and Oubre versus Kyle Lowry. I understand Kyle Lowry is tough, but I like 6'7", 6'8",
Starting point is 00:30:03 6'9", possibly defend him as opposed to Kyle Lowry being more his size. Because obviously, your eyes light up. You're like, y'all got that little dude guarding me? Yeah, but then you know what happens?
Starting point is 00:30:15 You put somebody 6'7", 6'9", up there against someone that's much faster and a little bit more skilled, he getting round and through that anyway. Unless you got help. Well, I mean, obviously. But you know, you got 7'2 in there. He's still
Starting point is 00:30:31 a very good defender. But I think that's got to how to do it. But Maxie is going to have to have a phenomenal game. And I think he's more than capable of. So I'm looking for a six or seven game series in that one. But like as Shams is
Starting point is 00:30:48 reporting, Jimmy Butler is feared to have suffered an MCL injury. Remember he reported, I think he reported last night about Zion and Hamstring and Zion's not playing tomorrow night. So normally, look, Ocho, you know when they start reporting injuries, now they ain't just pulling this stuff
Starting point is 00:31:04 out the sky. So somebody, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Especially somebody like Shams. He know what he's talking about, huh? Yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. So, 76ers hold on to beat the Miami Heat 105-104. They're the seventh seed.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Travel to New York. Take on the two-seed Knicks. Led by Jalen Brunson, who had a phenomenal year. Should be an All-NBA. It's going to be very interesting because this is the first year take on the two seed Knicks led by Jalen Brunson, who had a phenomenal year should be a, a all NBA. It's going to be very interesting because this is the first year you don't have positions, all NBA,
Starting point is 00:31:32 you take the best five players. So you might have your kitchen is going to be the center. And you might have three guards. You might have shake. You just, you might have Brunson and you might have a Luca. And might have Shea Gilgis. You might have Brunson. And you might have Luka. And then that leaves one spot for Jason Tatum, Giannis, or KD, or LeBron. So it's going to be very, very interesting how this thing plays out.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Because I'm interested to see. Because it's going to be the first time that you might have three guards. Because normally you have a big, a five, a three and a four and a point and a two. But now this is, hey, if we get the five best players are all bigs. First team, all NBA. Well, here we come. So I'm interested to see who makes up because that goes a long way because
Starting point is 00:32:22 that determines who gets the max deals. Oh, so they. You know, you make an all NBA team, you make an all defensive team, you win an MVP. So now all of a sudden the contract that's worth $250 all of a sudden goes to $350.
Starting point is 00:32:38 So I'm interested to see how that plays out. In the second game, Chicago. Wait, that goddamn Colby. That goddamn Colby. to see how that plays out in the second game Chicago that goddamn Kobe that goddamn Kobe White Kobe White 131-116 over the Hawks
Starting point is 00:32:56 their season is over now Chicago Bulls travel to Miami to take on possibly probably without Jimmy Butler the the Miami Heat. DeMar DeRozan had 22. Nikola Vucevic had 24. Kobe White, 15 of 21, 3 of 7 from the 3,
Starting point is 00:33:14 9 of 10 from the free throw line, 42 points. Caruso got stepped on by Andre Drummond at 6. And DeSumo? DeSo had 19 as they do an unbelievable job trade coming back didn't shoot the ball well for three
Starting point is 00:33:33 neither did Bogdanovich and they lose 131 116 but like you said Kobe White had it going tonight 42 points 9 rebounds 6 assists 2 steals on 72% field goal shooting. Did somebody see? You know what he did?
Starting point is 00:33:49 He said, hold on. I know a guy that used to play in this building that went to the school that I went to. Yeah. You know what? Baby, I have me one of them old Joe at night. Listen, perfect. When opportunity presents itself, that's what happens when you take advantage of it. Injury, I'm in, showtime, playing tournament, what better way to show up than tonight's game for Kobe White? is being able to do what Kobe White did tonight and do it consistently.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Can I consistently do it night in and night out? Maybe not 40-something a night, but you getting that 25, that 30 range and do it consistently? Oh, man. They're going to have to come see you. They're going to have to come see you. Yeah, Ocho, he's going to be in the running
Starting point is 00:34:42 for most improved. Yeah. He had an unbelievable season. I think he averaged right around 20 points a game. Obviously, Malik Monks is going to be in the running. Nas Reed for the Minnesota Timberwolves. There are a couple of other guys. Norman Powell for the Clippers.
Starting point is 00:35:01 But Kobe White had a phenomenal season. He couldn't have picked a better time. Isn't he up for his contract, isn't he up for a contract? Or did he resign last year? Did they extend him last year? But he played absolutely unbelievable. That's what you need to have. You need to
Starting point is 00:35:15 look. You count on Debo. DeMar DeRozan normally is going to give you a phenomenal night. He's going to give you somewhere in between 20-25. You know what you're going to get with Vooch. Vooch is a double-double machine. He's going to give you somewhere 20, somewhere in between 20, 25. You know what you're going to get with Vooch. Vooch is a double-double machine. He's going to give you somewhere 18 to 20 double-digit rebounds. So, you know, I'm counting on those guys.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Now, you tell me that Kobe White is going to give me 25, because he normally gives you 19 to 20. What does he normally have? He reacts. Okay, so he's on the contract. Yeah. But what's the average for this evening like 20.21 20.5 but he was he was right there around a 20 point score but he doubled it right and so man that's nice
Starting point is 00:35:58 19.1 so i yeah 1920 uh but, you know, they did an unbelievable job tonight on limiting Trey, made him take some very tough and contested shots. DeJounte Murray played 46 minutes. Hunter played 42. Trey Young played 43. Wow. You got to. You ain't got no choice.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Hey, yeah, you go at home. Because Debo played 44. Kobe White played 43 43 DeSumo played 41 did a great job making it tough on Trey because they started small they started DeSumo they started Caruso they started Kobe White DeMar DeRozan and
Starting point is 00:36:38 Busevich right and that was that was to combat the three guard lineup Bogdanovich DeJounte Murray and Trey Young so that was that was that was to combat the three-guard lineup, Bogdanovich, DeJounte Murray, and Trey Young. So that was unbelievable. Kobe White, he got it going early, and he didn't cool off late. Mm-hmm. Damn.
Starting point is 00:36:59 So they play your Miami Heat. We probably going to win. You want to put something on it? You want to bet? I ain't even no gambling man, but for this right now, you know, this is one thing. It all comes down to coaching, okay? Man, you ain't going to talk me to death. You want to bet yes or no?
Starting point is 00:37:19 Sposher is the best coach in the NBA because he does the most with the least. Now, if you want to bet. Do you want to bet yes or no? Put something on the floor, Fon. Put something on the floor then. Put something on the floor. Make a light on yourself. Make a light on yourself. Make a light on yourself. Boy, my pockets is deep.
Starting point is 00:37:29 What you trying to do? Talk to me. Whatever you want. Make a light on yourself. Huh? What you want? I'm waiting on you. You call it.
Starting point is 00:37:37 You call it. I mean, you talking like you, like you what? Huh? See, I don't, I don't. You know what? Take your glasses off right quick. Take your glasses off. Let me see your eyes.
Starting point is 00:37:46 See that look right there? That's what I want to be. The look on your face when you lose. Nah. See, you scared. You scared. You scared. That's what I want right now.
Starting point is 00:37:55 That's what I want right now. Hey, put that money up, huh? Put that money up, man. I know I don't like to spend, but hey, come on now. Talk to me. Put it on the floor. If you put it on the floor, I guarantee I'm going to pick it up. $500.
Starting point is 00:38:08 $500 what? $500? $500. Oh, you bet. What you mean $500? So I'm coming. So I'm coming. I'm going to tell you like I ain't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I'm like, I don't know about all that. I'm just $500. So I'm coming. That ain't nothing, man. That's Air Force One money. What you trying to do? Talk to me. Ocho, I got great news for you.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Andrew Reese was watching. She said, okay, you fly. Chad, I'm going to send you one. Shout out to you. Are you mad? Are you mad? Hey, appreciate that, Big Reese. Appreciate that, Big Reese.
Starting point is 00:38:41 And don't forget, I gave you the nickname Big Reese when it catch on in Chicago. Yeah. And I'm wearing my jacket to the game. I'm going to sit courtside in Chicago. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, niece. Keep Bayou Barbie.
Starting point is 00:38:55 That thing, that's catchy. That real nice. That real nice. And guess what? What? They're going to come out with a doll. Look, just like Angel Reese, Bayou Barbie. Ooh. Bayou Barbie, a.k, just like Angel Reese, Bayou Barbie. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Bayou Barbie, a.k.a. Big Reese. Yeah. That's it. That's what I'm talking about right there. I got me a jacket. Thank you, Angel. Thank you for watching. We appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And best of luck this year, your rookie season at WNB. I know you're going to do well. Don't forget to eat McDonald's. We saw you working on that three ball, that tray ball. That thing was looking good, too. Keep it going, keep it going. Tell her don't forget your McDonald's. Nah, nah, don't eat that.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Don't eat that. Don't eat that. She's in training right now. She's getting ready for the season. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I did. You eat McDonald's to get ready for the season. It's all about preparation.
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Starting point is 00:41:04 Zion Williamson will not play in the Pelicans playing game on friday because of a hamstring injury zion brought his best against lebron the lakers last night only for the worst to happen once again as great as he is how can a pelican commit to a player who can't stay on the floor various injuries have limited zion although he played like 70 plus games this year yeah and the number one overall pick and he showed you last night was a glimpse of why 40 11 and 5 before he went out of the ball game yeah and he had it going in five NBA seasons he's been limited to 184 of a possible 410 games man boy the Lakers hey I was nervous oh yeah listen if he, I watched the game.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Now, if Zion doesn't go out, I don't know if the Lakers get away with that one. Yeah. I don't know if they get away with that one. That boy playing some ball. You hear me? Yeah. He was playing some ball. And I heard something you just said when you were talking about how does the team commit to someone who constantly continues to get injured?
Starting point is 00:42:06 You know how? When you get performances like that before you got injured. Because how many people can come in there, or how many players in the NBA can come in in a playing game and just at any point drop 40 like it's nothing and do it consistently? In the paint, strong. Mid-range, strong.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I'm not sure how he is at the perimeter i'm i'm not sure about that no that's not his game his game is not his game yeah but when it comes when it comes to driving and in the paint or a man playing with it back to the basket well he's special now oh he oh he's special i mean the way he can contort his body a man that size is slithery. The way he can bounce, one bounce, miss the shot, back up again. He's very, very nimble for a man that size. He's not supposed to be able to move like he does at that size.
Starting point is 00:42:54 God didn't make a whole lot of people like Zion Williamson. And he's a very, very special talent. I think he understands that. Some of that, you know, like I said, a lot of these injuries, Ocho, is because a man his size is not supposed to be able to do what he does.
Starting point is 00:43:09 You know, an 18-wheeler is not supposed to go at 150 miles an hour and stop like a smart car. That's what you're asking. You're asking a man that size to have that level of explosiveness, up, down, up, down, hundreds of times a night over an 82 game season.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Well, listen, he plays 70 this year, which is, which is very good. So that means he's doing something right. The team that he has around him is doing something right. Now,
Starting point is 00:43:38 the one thing that worries me with the Pelicans going forward is obviously he had a great game. He had 40, 11, and I'm not sure what the rebounds were. 40-11 is rebounds. He had 40 points, 11 rebounds, 5 assists. Oh, 5
Starting point is 00:43:54 assists. Okay, my bad. But Brandon Ingram and C.J. McCollum shot a combined 8-27. Yes. 8-27. So what do they need to do to make sure if Zion is out that mean
Starting point is 00:44:07 them two gotta be on fire basically they gotta be at least giving you 20 20 25 a piece
Starting point is 00:44:15 along with the supporting cast as well CJ had an off night last night prior to that game he was scorching from the three point line he was shooting over
Starting point is 00:44:23 50% from the three line three ball over the last seven, eight games. He was off. B, I just got back Sunday because he had missed 12 games. And so, no, they got him on a minutes restriction. Why would they do that? Wait, I mean, I understand a minute restriction, but why would you allow, why would you put them on a minute restriction when the game is of importance like that?
Starting point is 00:44:52 They say we understand it's important, but we... Now you got to play the Kings. So what you going to do with them next when it's time to play the Kings? You just got to put them out there. The only way to get back is by playing basketball or any sport. Yeah, but you know the thing is
Starting point is 00:45:07 with these, see you looking at it from a football perspective. Yes, sir. They're looking at it from a basketball perspective because what we do in football, they say you only going to play X amount of, you only going to play one side of the ball anyway, so you never want to, I mean, occasionally they might say, okay,
Starting point is 00:45:24 getting back, we're going to let you go 20 plays. We're going to let you go. But as a basketball player, you got to go. Because guess what? You're on offense, and then you got to go play defense. And they're saying, you know what? We'd rather have Brandon. And that's why they're very cautious with Zion.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Because like you said, we saw what he's capable of doing. He's a generational talent. We've got to keep him healthy as we possibly can. But this was a freak injury. Think about it. He goes up and dunks the ball. He's coming down the court. He hears himself say, hey, come get me.
Starting point is 00:45:56 He knows something immediately. Athletes know that about him. He knew it immediately. As soon as he started running up the court, what did he do? He threw his hand up, said, come get me. They came and got him, and that's what happened. So it's very, very unfortunate. It's going to be a very tall task to be the very, very talented Sacramento Kings team
Starting point is 00:46:18 led by D. Fox, De'Aaron Fox. Swiper is sensational. Can get to the basket, can shoot the three mid-range, he's super, super quick. So bonus, double-double king, Keegan Murray had an outstanding game last night shooting the three ball. This is a very, very difficult, this is a very
Starting point is 00:46:36 dangerous team. And without Zion, and possibly B.I. on a minutes restriction, it's going to take Herb Jones, Trey Murphy III, and restriction. Right. Oh, it's going to take Herb Jones, Trey Murphy III, and CJ. It's going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Yeah. A lot of heavy lifting. And Grand Theft Alvarado, he got his hair cut out with Swipe of Fox. Oh, yeah. Hey, man, he be putting them on skates.
Starting point is 00:47:01 I mean, well, shit. Well, hell, when I think about it, what do we get the production from with Zion being out so that mean brand everything is on Brandon Ingram is on CJ McCollum well they have to damn near be so efficient from the field and kind of make up for the lost production with Zion being out right but they can get hot there's one thing about them they can get hot from the three yeah and they can shoot They can get hot from the three. Yeah. And they can shoot you out of the gym from the three,
Starting point is 00:47:25 especially CJ, Trey, and a Herb. Yeah. And so they're going to have to rely a lot on the three ball. Valanchunas is going to have to do a hell of a job because the one thing about Sabonis, he will crash the board. Oh, yeah. And you can ill afford to give team second chance in so many cracks. And because eventually those shots are going to go in,
Starting point is 00:47:45 those second chance is going to go in. And so those second chance points starts to pile up as the offensive rebounds start to pile up. So they're going to have to be on their best effort. There is no question about that. So that's what happens. They play tomorrow night, right? They play tomorrow night.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Friday? Oh, hell, I'm thinking tonight, Thursday. They play Friday night. Friday? Oh, hell, I'm thinking tonight, Thursday. They played Friday night, and when do Miami play? Saturday? Yes, Miami play Saturday. Okay. So that's it.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Both games are Friday. Oh, man, what you call them guys shafted? Miami and Philly? They really got... The NBA announced Wednesday that John Tate Porter. I did not know this, but he's the brother of Michael Porter Jr. For the Denver Nuggets. Yes, that's his brother.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Has been banned for life from the league due to his violation of gambling rules. John Tate Murray got banned for life for $20,000. Ocho, in his NBA playing career, he made basically $2.4 million. In gambling on the NBA, he made about $22,000. You see what I say, Ocho? You hustling backwards.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Now you tell me the situation where you say, you know what? Hey, check this out. Ocho, bet $2.4 million for a chance to win $22,000. Man, I don't understand it. I don't understand it. I think that's an addiction at that point. I think that's an addiction at that point when you're actually playing the game and betting on the game that you're actually playing in.
Starting point is 00:49:21 I can see if it's betting on other sports or betting in other areas or aspects of life. Yes. But your own games that you're playing in just to earn a little extra. Now, I understand. In a sense, I want to see it from his perspective as far as, you know what, I don't make as much. What perspective, Ochoa?
Starting point is 00:49:39 I don't make as much money as some of these other fools are making. I need a little extra on the side. Okay. Guess what? You're not going to be making nothing what they're making now. Oh, yeah. Guess what you're going to be doing?
Starting point is 00:49:50 You're right. You're about to go get your regular. You're about to go. Nothing wrong with that. Right. But people are going to look at you like you got to be the biggest damn fool because you made 2.4 million and you lost your entire career for 22,000. Yeah, you're right about that. How big a fool must you be?
Starting point is 00:50:06 Yeah. Matter of fact, you talk about 2.4. Slice that in half too, baby. Okay, 1.3. Slice that in half. Well, how much are we taking off this $22,000? How much are we taking off this $22,000? Because you got to pay taxes on that too.
Starting point is 00:50:19 So how much are we slicing off that? You know what's funny? It's bad all the way around. Either way, it's bad all the way around. Either way, it's bad all the way around. I mean, him actually gambling and obviously, you know the reason
Starting point is 00:50:30 why he was doing it. It's only because he wasn't making the same other players make. That's ridiculous, man. It's the thrill. Ocho, it's the thrill. Why you think Michael Jordan
Starting point is 00:50:40 go and bet $100,000 a hand? He went too big because the only thing that gives you that rush Michael Jordan go and bet $100,000 a hand. He went too big because the only thing that gives you that rush of the sport that you played is that.
Starting point is 00:50:55 It's like, you don't know what's going to happen. You playing blackjack. You wait, okay. Woo-hoo-hoo. They put that face card up come on come on come on come on give it to me that's the only thing to give you that rush right right right bro man that's make it make sense and people stop stop saying what they have gambling they bet
Starting point is 00:51:22 you can't. You can't bet. I don't know what it was, but when I was in there, they had a big sign. Right. That when you walked in the room, no gambling on football games. Yeah. No gambling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:43 You want to bet on the ponies? Don't bet on football if you're a football player. Don't bet on basketball if you're an NBA player. Yeah. You want to bet on the ponies? Don't bet on football if you're a football player. Don't bet on basketball if you're an NBA player. Yeah. How hard is that to comprehend? I mean, people, you know what? People drive me crazy when they say stuff. Well, they got gambling and they lot of these. Well, well, stop having these parlors.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Stop. Stop. Stop. Yeah. Listen, I mean, of course, the public is going to make excuses for them. We have sponsorship. We have deals. We have all these other things that are going on. But as players, if they say you can't gamble, you can't gamble.
Starting point is 00:52:20 And I don't think it starts now. I think the gambling stems from you doing it long before you even made it. Long before you even made it. Because anything that's an addiction, when you get to the pinnacle of your childhood dream, you made it to the NBA, you made it to the NFL, or whatever sport you might play. If it says there is no gambling, it should be very easy not to gamble. It's the fact that at this point, even though you made it, now it's become an addiction
Starting point is 00:52:46 that started long before you even made it. I think that's the problem. Ocho, we all did stuff. I mean, shoplifted, stole or something. Damn, damn. But you know when you got to being an adult you can't go in stores and shoplift you know you can't take things so this notion where he had this no he did not have this problem because he had no money right what the hell he gambling on well you know you
Starting point is 00:53:18 play small get like me with the quarters you know you got you play little small stuff get like rest of america and go out and get another job. That's what you have to do. That's the get like he talking about, right? That's what you're talking about? Hey, matter of fact, hold on. Yeah. Did y'all play that when you was little?
Starting point is 00:53:32 Remember the quarters? Get like me? Yeah. Y'all might have had a different name for it, though. Yeah, yeah. We played it. We flipped the court. Get like me.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, for sure. I'm like, bro. That's what I don't get upset to say. People got upset at me. But I said about Calvin Ridley and I'm glad he was able to come back. Right. And, you know, he got. But I'm like, bro, think about this. He he lost eleven million one year. To try to win fifteen hundred two thousand dollars. Do y'all understand?
Starting point is 00:54:01 $1,500, $2,000. Do y'all understand? So if I gave, Chad, if I gave you $11 million, I'd say here's $11 million, but I want you to wager to try to win $2,500, to try to win $3,000. Y'all will look at me like I'm a damn fool. So how y'all looking at these professional athletes that know they can gamble, make the kind of money that they're making.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Oh, Joe, even if he make it, how many people in the real world you think is going to make two point four million dollars in their lifetime? Yeah, he's made that on a couple of years. Yeah. So nobody's going to have empathy for him. Mm hmm. Yeah. I will give i'm gonna give the chat 11 million dollars now i need you guys to wager that to try to win 3 000 you know what i like y'all i want you to what you know what i like y'all so much i want you to put your 10 to 11 million up to try to win 100 000 how big of a fool must you be? Yeah. You know at times when you have money. It says you can't get on
Starting point is 00:55:10 your own. It says you can't. Yeah. And you gonna bet you take the under. You betting on your own team. At least you know I don't want no part of this. Yeah. I don't want to he bet. Take the over. Take the under the and the guy
Starting point is 00:55:25 he giving the information to he won 1.8 he won 22,000 you lost your career giving somebody else some information and guess what the bookie dimed him out
Starting point is 00:55:35 he said he telling me with the game that he was hurt whoa whoa whoa that was being reported the bookie snitched on him boy when them fans come they'll make you tell them everything they need to know your social security number the boogie snitched on him? Boy, when them fans come,
Starting point is 00:55:47 they'll make you tell them everything they need to know. Your social security number. You damn right. Oh, they pinched him. Okay, okay, okay. I was going to say, I thought he just... They did more than pinch him.
Starting point is 00:55:56 15. Oh, here it is. His name is Yes Sir. They can do that? I'm going to tell them everything. I'm going to say, let me tell y'all what happened when Ocho was in the third grade.
Starting point is 00:56:06 We had this teacher named Miss Thompson. He flatted her tires. You know what? I'm going to tell them everything they need to know. Hold on, 15 what? They threatened him with 15 what? Yells.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Oh my. And then said, well, I can't, hey, Ocho, I swear to God, I had a homeboy. He told the judge, gave him 25 years. He said, judge,
Starting point is 00:56:24 I can't do all that time. The judge told him, say, do what you can. I don't know how much you can do, but do what you can. He said, judge, I can't do all that time. The judge told him, do what you can. Whatever you can do, just do that. Hey, that's funny. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Just do it. Just do it. Just do what you can. Do what you can, Ocho. But I don't know. I don't get people. Listen, it's one thing about it. We love to do things that are illegal in life in general. We never think about the consequences.
Starting point is 00:57:09 We always think we're going to be able to get away with it. Or we're always in a position where we somewhat feel invisible based on the occupation that we have because we got money. You think you're invisible. But boy, when you get in trouble
Starting point is 00:57:22 and you're in front of them people and they start wringing off them years. Matter of fact, they don't even tell you in years trouble and you're in front of them people and they start wringing off them years, matter of fact, they don't even tell you in years, they tell you in months. They tell you in months purposely so it don't seem like that long until you add that shit up. Yeah! I got 240 months.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Man, there ain't no time. I could do all that time. Man. Add it up. Had another homeboy. He got 240 months, joe yeah like that ain't nothing he's like hold on he started counting right oh they're 12 months in a year yeah 10 years that's 120 months okay we're gonna compound that 20 years he fainted yeah yeah just say tell him when you wake up, he still got 240 months.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Ain't that changing? That's what I'm saying. Ocho, what did I tell you? Two people can keep a secret. Yeah. Well, I'm got to be dead. Oh, yeah. That bookie knew something.
Starting point is 00:58:20 How you think they found out about Shohei Ohtani's situation? FBI was investigating the bookie. Guess what? I got some information. How many years you gonna take off mine? I can do how many years? I get probation? And what I need to do? Man, dude came
Starting point is 00:58:38 in here. Let me tell you, it was a Wednesday. I did. Okay, let me tell you what. He came in here Wednesday by 4 o'clock. Telling it all. Everything. The fake guy ain't. As a matter of fact, I know his social security number.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Wrote it down. Yeah, yeah. Every time we... That's... When you come to me with something, if it's illegal, I don't want nothing to do with that. As a matter of fact, stop talking't want nothing to do with that.
Starting point is 00:59:06 As a matter of fact, stop talking. Don't even tell me. Don't even talk to me about nothing illegal. Right. Man, I had a homeboy. He done got pinched. He ain't got no credit, but you know, he wanted to
Starting point is 00:59:21 I need you to do this solid for me. I was like, what? I'm going to give you this cash. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. And you go buy the car for me. I said, oh, no. Oh, no. Never. Oh,
Starting point is 00:59:39 never. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Oh, no. I could never. Hey. Because guess what?
Starting point is 00:59:53 Guess what's going to happen when he get pinched? Uh-huh. He going to say you bought it for me? He going to say, my cousin, my homeboy. Boy. Oh, he playing the NFL. You know my cousin? You know my homeboy?
Starting point is 01:00:04 No, who your homeboy? Who your cousin? Shannon Shaw. Oh, he playing the NFL. You know my cousin? You know my homeboy? No, who your homeboy? Who your cousin? Shannon Sharp. Oh, really? Yeah. Do tell. Now you going down. Cause I tried to help him. Oh, no. I could never. No.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Mm-mm. Oh, man. Hey, one thing about it The streets Or the people that do Illegal stuff They always live by this code Snitching is so bad
Starting point is 01:00:32 Snitching is this Snitching is that But as soon as you In that room And it's cold And they throw them Numbers in front of you Everybody always telling
Starting point is 01:00:42 Always They get A date Their uncle ain't gonna Do no date everybody always telling always a day then Uncle you ain't gonna do no day huh you could have never told me I could never do nothing for you like that no way
Starting point is 01:00:58 oh one day you can't do one day mm-mm mm-mm I Mm-mm. I don't know. I don't know. I don't been down there. I ain't trying to go back. I can't do no time.
Starting point is 01:01:14 No, man. Hell no. God damn. Uncle, day number 24 hours. Yeah. Hey, think about how it was when you was COVID and how people was losing their mind. Hey, think about how it was when you was COVID and how people was losing their mind.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Right, right. And you still could go outside. You just couldn't go into a public building. Right. You was free. You could get in your car, drive up and down 95, 16, 17. It's empty. I imagine you can't go nowhere. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:44 And I got all this money. Oh, no. I could never do that, Ocho. Please, no. So don't even come with me. Hey, if it ain't on the up and up. Right. I don't want no part of it.
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