Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Mavericks take control, Should Lakers hire JJ Redick?

Episode Date: May 16, 2024

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Gilbert Arenas react to the Mavericks taking a 3-2 lead over the OKC Thunder and debate whether JJ Redick would be a good hire for the Los Angeles Lakers ...03:41 - Show Starts05:06 - Mavs beat Thunder20:50 - Boston advances to ECF32:37 - Newscap32:49 - JJ Reddick and Lakers50:37 - Bronny James Combine(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:44 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us. Thank you for staying up late and joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite unk, Shannon Sharp. And your top left is your favorite number 85, rock runner extraordinaire, Bengals Ring of Fame honoree, pro bowler, all pro, all the way from Liberty City. He's Chad Ocho Cinco Rosado Johnson. And in your bottom
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Starting point is 00:04:46 That's Gil's Arena channel on YouTube. His show airs every Monday through Thursday live at 1130 a.m. Pacific time. Please also make sure you subscribe to his personal YouTube page, No Chill Gil. His personal YouTube page is No Chill Gil. Again, thank you guys for staying up with us late and joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Let's get right into it, guys. The Mavericks go on the road
Starting point is 00:05:11 and beat the Thunder 104 to 92. They got a 30-point triple-double from Luka Doncic. P.J. Washington had 10 points, 10 rebounds. Jones had 19 points. Daniel Gafford had 9 points,
Starting point is 00:05:28 7 rebounds. Kyrie had 12 points. They got 11 points and 10 rebounds from Derrick Lively, the second off the bench as they out-rebound the OKC Thunder by 13, and they win the game on the road. Gil, let's start with you first. What did you
Starting point is 00:05:44 like? What impressed you the most about what you saw with the Mavericks going on the road. Gil, let's start with you first. What did you like? What impressed you the most about what you saw with the Mavericks going on the road and getting this win? I mean, it was a big win for them. It showed, you know, it showed professionalism. It shows why Luka and Kyrie are stars in this league, right?
Starting point is 00:06:00 You know, a lot of superstars or star players, franchise guys, they would have folded to how they lost last game, but they'll bounce back. Luka was excellent today. Kyrie was solid. And they came out and willed their team to this win tonight.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Yeah, I agree with everything you said. Considering how they lost that ball game, had an eight-point lead with probably like three minutes to go and they gave that game up. They really should be getting ready to celebrate going to the Western Conference Finals,
Starting point is 00:06:30 but they have to go home and try to close it out game six. And if I'm Jason Kidd, I'm not saying, look here, guys, I'm not coming back to OKC until next season.
Starting point is 00:06:38 So get your mind ready to play. Ocho, you know what I'm saying? Get your mind ready to play. Let's close this ish out Saturday night and get ready for the Western Conference Finals. Ocho, what did you like about what you saw? What did you like what you saw from the Mavericks tonight?
Starting point is 00:06:50 I mean, listen, each night, each game is somebody different. Obviously, Luka's going to do what he does. Kyrie contributed a little bit. The past two games, maybe the past three games, P.J. Washington played extremely well. But instead of P.J. Washington tonight, hell, it was goddamn Derrick Jones Jr. He had 19 points.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And Luka did what he did. And Shea... I don't want to say his name wrong. Shea? Shea Gildress. Shea Gildress. SGA. All right, SGA.
Starting point is 00:07:16 He needed a little bit of help. He needed a little bit more help. Shett did what he could. But the supporting cast that Shea has isn't enough to offset the contribution and what the Mavs give each game and each night. You know what, Gil? When you look at this game, had the Mavericks not been careless with the basketball,
Starting point is 00:07:33 had all those turnovers, this game wasn't supposed to be close. They shot almost 53% from the floor. They shot 40% from the three-point line. They out-rebounded them by 13 rebounds. But it was the turnovers that got them in trouble if they're not if they don't turn the ball over like they did this ball game's probably over with about six minutes to go in the ball game because when hit that three put them up 18 yeah i thought for all intents and purposes it was over after that
Starting point is 00:08:01 and then the next thing you know the thunder go go on, what, a 10-0 run, an 11-0 run, and all of a sudden they make it a ball game because the Nuggets, you know, excuse me, the Nuggets, the Mavericks got bogged down. Lucas started holding the ball, shooting the ball with one second. Run your offense. I understand you want to run time off. You don't want to take a quick shot.
Starting point is 00:08:21 But I don't think, you know, you're just holding the ball, patting the ball, and all of a sudden you hot potato it. It's a good thing. But give them credit. Give the Mavericks credit for going on the road, winning this ball game, especially how they lost that ball game. What didn't you like about what you saw from the Thunder, Gil?
Starting point is 00:08:38 What I didn't like is they settled. And I don't know if it's like this in football and basketball. You have two styles of play, right? You have your home play and your road play. Correct. Usually your road game is a little more relaxed, patient, right? You pick your spots, and then at home you're more free.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Well, that costs them that tonight, shooting 40. This is not a team that usually chucks threes when they're off. The fact that they took 43 is 10 for 40. That's the game right there. You didn't get to the free throw line. Usually you guys are getting to the free throw line, putting the team, because they have a small team,
Starting point is 00:09:17 they're not very tall, especially when they take shit out. You usually are using your athleticism to get down low, get a little easy, lay up some free throws. So the fact that you didn't get to the free throw line lets you know that you was too confident and too, lots of days ago, at the home,
Starting point is 00:09:38 where you should have been really, we're not going to shoot threes early, we're really going to beat them down low. Like, you know, kind of like when the Kind of like when the Lakers are playing small teams, they usually just try to attack them down low. And that's what they usually do on the road. So it's like, ah,
Starting point is 00:09:54 this is one of those games where you just can't just tuck a whole bunch of threes up. Yeah, 43, that's not the Thunder's game. 10 of 40, 25% from the floor. They only shot 10 free throws. A team that normally attacks the basket. You got Shea Gilgis. He's constantly putting pressure
Starting point is 00:10:09 on you. Jalen Williams did not have his finest hour. He needed to play better. They can't win with him having 12 points. Chet Holmgren had 13. You get Lou Dort had 12. And you get Josh Giddey who came off the bench for the first time. He had 11 points.
Starting point is 00:10:25 You need Jalen Williams. Shea's giving you 30 points damn near every game, Gil. I think with the exception of one game, he had 29. But he's giving you 30. He's doing all he can. Jalen Williams, you're their second-best player. You need to give them around 20 points. You've got to give them 20.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And then if Chet gives you anywhere between 13 and 18, you live with that. You take whatever you can get from Lou Dort. But you know you're asking a lot from Lou because he's exerting a lot of energy trying to keep Luka in check. That's asking an awful lot because Luka with all that herky-jerky movement, he's going to post you up. He's going to put his shoulder
Starting point is 00:10:59 into your chest. He's going to cause you a lot of problems. So if Lou Dort can give me 12 points, considering the amount of energy that I'm asking him to exert to try to keep Luka under control, I can live with that. But you knew Luka, we all knew,
Starting point is 00:11:15 Gil, in order for the Mavericks to win, Luka had to be more efficient. He can't shoot 10 for 27. He can't shoot 9 of 22. He can't be like that. He's too good. And I thought tonight, I thought he did a great job of attacking. He kept pressure on him.
Starting point is 00:11:31 12 of 22 from the floor, plus 50%. Another 30-point triple-double. 5 of 11 from three. That's the kind of effort that you need from him. And then you got 12 points from Kyrie. You got 19 from Derrick Jones Jr. You got 10 from P.J. Washington. Lively comes off the bench and gives you 11 also
Starting point is 00:11:49 and double-digit rebounds. When you go on the road, you need to have five or six guys in double figure if you want to win a ball game. Yeah, I think also Jason Kidd, you can't... Well, I mean, not just Kidd, I'm sorry. O.K. said you can't bring... Dagnon. you can't bring...
Starting point is 00:12:05 Dagnab. You can't change your lineup in the middle of the playoffs. Yeah. Right? People are not mentally prepared for that. There's no way Giddy was prepared to come off the bench tonight. Right? That's one of those, we're in the middle of the playoffs, we got here this way. You just can't spring it on me.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Mentally, that does something to a player. Right? You play him, what, 12 minutes tonight? Right? You played him 12 minutes. 12 minutes. And he went five of eight. He played better than the starter you put
Starting point is 00:12:41 in from him. Things like that, you can't do it. Gil, when you say you can't do that because the guy's not prepared mentally, that strikes me as a panic move. Because you're tied 2-2. Now, if you're down, Gil, if you're down 2-1, you're down 3-2, okay, all hands on deck.
Starting point is 00:13:00 But you're tied. It's even serious. And you're at home. That strikes me as a panic move. Anytime you do anything, especially in this late in the playoffs, it's going to put my alarm bells up. And I think Jason Kidd said,
Starting point is 00:13:13 hold on. Man, y'all panic. Y'all hadn't done a move like this all year. Y'all the number one seed because you've been steady. And all of a sudden you're tied 2-2 coming back home and you do this now if you're down 3-2 and you're coming home i get it go ahead ocho i mean isn't there a reason that they had isaiah joe start over over josh giddy is that some schematically or something some type of tactic
Starting point is 00:13:35 that they thought would help what better defensively or offensively but it just didn't pan out the way it should because from an offensive standpoint shit isaiah joe only has six goddamn points so what was the reason for starting him in the first place? Well, I think because Gated was getting off to slow starts. He wasn't giving you the kind of production that he gave you in the regular season. I don't have his regular season numbers in front of me, but I just know his postseason numbers haven't been up to snuff. And so they're saying, like, we need better production. But that's not, I mean, you're counting on Isaiah Joe
Starting point is 00:14:06 to give you better production? I mean, he's a guy that comes off the bench. Because now you got to understand, Gil, and I think we know, Ocho, we can speak to this in football. It's one thing to be the third receiver. And then you come in and you're going against the third or fourth corner. It's another thing to be the number one or number two receiver. And you're going against the number one or the number two corner.
Starting point is 00:14:25 So now Isaiah Joe is going against starters and not the backups. So he's going against starters and not other role players. So you're asking him to be what he hasn't been this season. Now, who knows? Down the road, he might be a guy. But I agree with Gil. That struck me as a panic move for the simple fact. I'm looking at him like,
Starting point is 00:14:46 bro, it's 2-2. This is not a situation where you're, okay, I'm down 3-0. I'm down 3-1. I'm down 3-2. Okay. Hey, man, we can't lose another game because, bro, if we lose another game, it's over. But this?
Starting point is 00:15:01 And your home? Like that's what I said. It's one of those things, man. I've seen it kill players mentally before the game where coaches are like, all right, look, we're going to bring you off the bench tonight. And just to see all the hope move out of his body, like, okay, he's going to be useless now. Now the guy you're bringing in, he doesn't lose nothing or gain nothing, right?
Starting point is 00:15:30 He's going to give you what he's going to give you. What you just lost is you lost now production from one guy because you took him from starting to the bench. Well, you know, Giddy played well, but he could have did that as a starter. He's 6'8", 6'9", with his shoes on, bigger guy. He's more of your point guard for Shea to be the two. See, they decided they want to bring in a shooter. They wanted to bring in a shooter, a flat-out shooter that can spread.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Well, he's your point guard for Shea to do what Shea does. Right. But there's a reason Shea gets to play Shea to do what Shea does. Right. But there's a reason Shea gets to play Shea because there's a guy out there that's being unselfish for everybody to play the way they're playing. So you take him out of the starting lineup, you start off slow as a team.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Forget him, right? You know, the first couple games, he's starting off slow, but everybody else is playing well. Now, the team is starting off slow. Right everybody else is playing well. Now, the team is starting off slow. He played well when he came in. Yeah, and that's the thing, because when you got
Starting point is 00:16:31 Gideon, you got somebody else that can initiate the offense instead of Shea. Shea's going to be Shea, but you need to give Shea a break. You had him play. He played, what, 43 minutes tonight. So you needed somebody because, really, look at Shea. Shea had eight rebounds.
Starting point is 00:16:49 The next highest was Lou Dort. Well. But we've seen Giddy. We know Giddy. Giddy can get you a triple-double. Yep. So you needed somebody to take that load. It just struck me as a panic move when I saw the switch in the lineup,
Starting point is 00:17:03 Isaiah Joe. But I also, but if I'm not mistaken, I think they did this the other day too, Gil. I think this is not the first. I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think this happened in Dallas after they lost game three. Because remember, the Mavs beat them game two. They won game three. And the head coach felt that he needed a little bit more production from his starters. So I just, it's just hard.
Starting point is 00:17:28 When you, Gil, you weren't the number one seed. You're the number one seed with the starting lineup. Wait, OKC won game one. Dallas won game two. Dallas won game three. So they lost game two. They lost game three when they tried to. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Stop. Just stop. Just sit up. Well, you know, sometimes we can't overthink it. Go ahead, Ocho. They got to stick with what we were. It worked during the regular season. It got you to the point. There's a reason why you were number one. Stay with what you know.
Starting point is 00:18:00 But obviously, I guess the coach might have been frustrated with not getting enough production out of Giddy. He felt maybe let's make a change in the middle of it. If it had worked and they had won tonight, then we'd be praising them. But the fact that it didn't work, and yep, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Now you got do or die. Now you got do or die. You're either going to force a game, what, seven, right? You force a game seven, or you're going to Cancun, one or the other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but you look at the kind of production that he gave you with those 11 minutes. And maybe, what if he gives you those in the beginning
Starting point is 00:18:37 and not when they're down like they were down, Gil? Because, you know, you look at it like it had 11 points, but what if he gives you those 11 points in the first half where it's nipped up, and you don't go down 9, you don't go down 12, you don't go down 18. Like you said, it's easy to say
Starting point is 00:18:56 Ocho 9, hindsight, it's a magnificent science, because you know the outcome, having done what you've done. But, like you said, had it worked out, everybody would have called him a genius and say, see, now you know why he won coach of the year. Right.
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Starting point is 00:22:32 and play through the rear vision. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You're supposed to take that cortisone shot, man. You got to go ahead and take that cortisone. Everybody ain't built the same, Gil. I mean, you, you're supposed to take that quarter zone shot, man. You got to go ahead and take that quarter zone. Everybody ain't built the same, Gil. I mean, you, I'm taking it. Damn the playoffs, I'm taking that shot in the regular season game.
Starting point is 00:22:54 So you know what I'm going to do to get into the playoffs because you understand how few, ain't no guarantees. Not with the playoffs. I can see if a guy missed a regular season game I'd be like damn bro you know we only got 16 of these things but a post season game he ready to go
Starting point is 00:23:15 he's ready to go he's like yeah y'all yeah this vacation time man without me, without Spider y'all can't win this man go yeah and I get it I mean Ocho we've seen it I mean guys
Starting point is 00:23:31 like you see some guys shooting up taking tournals shooting up ankles shooting up shoulders shooting up elbows shooting up you know everything you try to go out there and play yeah I mean listen and then you see some guys, nah, man, I don't believe in them needles.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Yeah. Hey, listen, it all... Man, you smoke more weed than anything. What that do with you and your love? You talking about you don't believe in no needles. Yeah. It all come down to how much does it mean to you? How important it is to you?
Starting point is 00:24:00 I'm sure at some point he's been injured before. At some point he's taken the total, whether it be the pill or whether it be the shot. I just think mentally he just wasn't there and he wasn't taking it. For sure. He was ready. You can sense that in the games, man,
Starting point is 00:24:16 where when you're in the playoffs, you're down three, two, three, one. Listen, I get to go home tomorrow. I get to go on vacation tomorrow versus preparing, then getting ready for Boston again on Friday or Saturday. I can be on vacation. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And when you're in that game trying to figure out who's coming with you, you can sense it just the way they come in the locker room. No, he gone. He gone. He ain't here he come in the locker room. No, he gone. He gone. Yeah, he ain't doing it. He out of here. Right? He out of here.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Hey, I accept everything that come with it. You know, hey, man, look. The concussions, I understand what I was asked. It's called assumption of the wrist.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah. You go to the ballpark, you expect the ball to fly up in the stand so you need to pay attention so if you get hit you get hit in the head with a ball because you eat the hot dog or drink a coke who you mad at right i understood so i was all the my my hips my knees if i had a chance to do it all over again you know what i'm doing ocho i'm taking my black ass right back out there and do it again right when i When I had an opportunity, you know, the disability, when guys were taking advantage, that same thing that Big Baby was doing,
Starting point is 00:25:29 I said, bro, I don't want no part of that. Right. I said, bro, I knew what I was getting into. They told me, say, you know, Shannon, long term. I said, man, don't tell me nothing long term. Hell, I ain't promised tomorrow. I'm worried about today. And if I see tomorrow, I'm like, damn, I probably shouldn't have did that.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Right. But I'm good with it. Once you advise me, I'm big boy now. Because I throw all that away to make sure my family, my grandma, my kids, that they got it. I ain't even worried about me. That thought never even crossed my mind, no joke. Once I was in a situation that they were comfortable,
Starting point is 00:26:00 man, I'd take shots every game. And I did. 93, 94, I was shooting on my ankles down near every game. Damn. Yeah, hell yeah. Man, I got to get it up out there. My granny comfortable now. I got air conditioned. And we ain't got to dip water out the
Starting point is 00:26:16 washing machine. We ain't got to hang clothes on the fence or the clothesline. We got to wash and dry. Right. Man, please. I wish I might. Man, Gil. I wish I might. Man, Gil. What? We got nice feet.
Starting point is 00:26:30 My grandma ain't got a bag. Peas and okra and all that stuff and keeping them to deep freeze and all that stuff. Right. Man, please. Y'all got a lot of insurance money when y'all retire? Hell no.
Starting point is 00:26:41 What insurance money? Like, you know, like what they got in trouble for with Big Baby and some of the football players. Nah. I mean, yeah, if you try to scam the system and talk about you got disability, but I ain't want no part of that, Gil.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Oh, yeah. I got about, what, $500,000, $600,000 to use. Nah. I'm going to use my $570,000. Because I know I'm going to go limp at some point. And I don't have money to get it back up.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I'm telling you. I need my knees where my ankles are. Gil, if they got it, I'm going to wait until I'm about 70. So I'm going to get me some meat extension. You got to be smart on this one I'm gonna use my insurance for the right stuff Yeah What I'm gonna use it for at 36
Starting point is 00:27:29 Ocho What I'm gonna use it for at 36 You right Listen I'm with you I'm with you when you're right I'm off Look I got it
Starting point is 00:27:40 I got 10 to 90 I got all kind of stuff I was like man I got about 30 more years And I can go ahead and stuff. I was like, man, I got about 30 more years and I can go ahead and dip in on this one. Yeah. No, but for me, the stuff, like certain things,
Starting point is 00:27:51 I'm just not built like that. Yeah. And for like, I'm very fortunate. God really blessed me that I played 14 years. I was able to take care of my money. I went right to CBS, got a job, left CBS, was out of CBS for two years, went to Fox, stayed there for seven years.
Starting point is 00:28:10 And then we kind of started our own thing. I had clubs, Shea Shea. And then Ocho, you and I started our thing. We brought Gil on. And so now I'm back. I got two days a week with First Take. I'm good. You know what I tell my kids?
Starting point is 00:28:23 My kids say, damn, because they know I'm in the stock market. They're like, damn, daddy, I guess you've lost some money today. I say, no, I ain't losing no money. Y'all lost money. Daddy good. That's y'all money that the stock market playing with. Daddy good.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah. Y'all better hope the stock market keep going up. Because daddy going to be OK. That's y'all money. Me, I'd rather see, because I understand. Ocho, you've been around. You've seen the guys.
Starting point is 00:28:51 And I don't know how often you go to the Super Bowl events. But when I used to go and I see the old guys that played in the 50s, the 60s, and 70s, and I see how they get around, man, I couldn't even get conscious.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Because I know there are guys that try to get the insurance and can't. And there's some jackass over here trying to defraud it. Nah, I can't even get down with them like that, man. I can't even take it. I don't need it. I'm good. Like I said, I'll pay
Starting point is 00:29:20 it out of my pocket. Y'all don't have just a car that has your insurance on it. No, we got a car that has your insurance on it. No, we got a car that just has money on it. That's what they were using. Bro, no, Gil, you get insurance for five years and you get to determine
Starting point is 00:29:35 when you use it. Use it, yeah. Also, for me, I retired at 35. So at the age of 40, my insurance through the NFL was done. So all my kids, I'm paying out of my pocket for me. I'm paying out of my pockets for my kids.
Starting point is 00:29:52 But that's okay. I'm good. I can live with that. I would rather do that than to try to skimp and somebody else get turned down because people like, and me, I'm trying to defraud the system. I'm good. Like I said, God bless me. That's just the way
Starting point is 00:30:08 I think. Nah, nah, nah, nah. I was out of NFL insurance at the age of 40, Gia. Oh yeah, nah. Ours is, we die. So our money runs out. We don't have no time limit. Y'all need to...
Starting point is 00:30:23 Five years after you're done playing, that's it. It's a wrap. But you can take it. No, you can take it whenever you want to. So you can wait and say, okay. Because think about it. If you play five years, let's just say the average NFL career is three years. So a guy that
Starting point is 00:30:39 comes in the league at 22, he's done at 25. So now he takes his insurance from 25 to 30. Now he lived to be 72. He got 42 years. He got to do pen pen for himself. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no. And so that's what I got upset about
Starting point is 00:30:55 the players. I said, guys, y'all keep talking about, oh, less practice, less padded practice. Man, y'all need to try to get some lifetime benefits. Yeah. Because everybody ain't going to be making Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow money. What about them guys? Oh, Joe, you know, less padded practice man y'all need to try to get some lifetime benefits yeah because everybody ain't gonna be making patrick mahomes and joe burrow money what about them oh cho you know everybody they look at them guys like oh man man i get me a signing bonus okay that sounds good because i remember them guys like that same bull job because when i first got to the league oh
Starting point is 00:31:19 there was no free agency yeah man and we were talking about i said man what about insurance man you know i ain't never had no insurance before so hell. And man, and we were talking about it. I said, man, what about insurance, man? I ain't never had no insurance before, so hell, we had to pick and choose. You had to have your head damn near chopped out before you went to the doctor. Man,
Starting point is 00:31:31 you wasn't going to no doctor. My grandma put some cobwebs and some gauze on it and you good to go. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember having a conversation with the guy
Starting point is 00:31:40 and said, guys, man, we need to, what about some lifetime benefit? You know what the guy said? And there are a lot of prominent people that thought like this. Man, you give me a million with the guys, said, guys, man, we need to battle. What about some lifetime benefit? You know what the guy said? And there are a lot of prominent people that thought like this. Man, you give me a million dollar signing bonus,
Starting point is 00:31:49 I'll buy my own insurance. Yeah, all right. Okay? Yeah, okay. That sounded good at the time. Yep. Now them same, hey,
Starting point is 00:31:57 now some of them same old folks, oh, man, man, the NFL, they do you wrong. They didn't. Because you said if they give you a million-dollar signing bonus, because guys wasn't making money back then.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Nah. Guys wasn't making money like that. I mean, my guy in the league, I think John L. was making like $2 million a year. Ooh. He got that. I mean, and he was one of the five highest-paid players, and they're making $2 million.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Man, you give me a million dollars a side, bro, I'm straight. I said, bro, do y'all understand how, like, if you got a wife and you got three kids, million dollars,
Starting point is 00:32:34 whoo, because you already know how they live it, Ocho. Ain't nobody living like you grew up. Out the door. Out the door. Man, I just,
Starting point is 00:32:44 like I said, but I don't, look, I said, Ocho, we different because i never wanted to go back to the situation that i was in i never wanted to eat what i had to eat and so i'm willing to do anything to stay out of that situation you know what i'm saying as far as help if i need to shoot up an ankle hey i shot up both shoulders i done shot up ribs until i was like hey man that thing got too painful shoot up an ankle, hey, I shot up both shoulders. I done shot up ribs until I was like, hey, man, that thing got too painful. Shoot up the ribs, give it a thing.
Starting point is 00:33:08 I'm like, oh, no, I'm good. I have to fight through it. I'm going to fight through this one. I mean, my shoulders, I couldn't even raise my arms. I was like walking around like Frankenstein. And they put that medicine in that Ocho, I can do jumping jack. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:24 And then I remember I cracked back on Ronnie Lott. put that medicine in there, Ocho, I can do jumping jack. And then I remember I cracked back on Ronnie a lot. My whole body seized up. I was out of that thing in the third quarter, though. Alright, guys. It's time for our first segment of the night, and it's called a News Cap.
Starting point is 00:33:41 News Cap. J.J. Redick is reportedly the early favorite to land the Lakers' head coaching job. Mark Stein reported the Lakers' job might be as well his to lose in the interview process as front office ramps up its search. Redick does not have any coaching
Starting point is 00:34:01 experience. He's worked as an analyst for ESPN and built a podcast network since his retirement from the NFL, excuse me, NFL, NBA in 2021. While some expressed confusion at Reddick's desire for a head coaching role given his media success, he said his competitive drive is not being satisfied at the moment. Gil, what you think? at the moment. Gil, what you think? It's a great opportunity, but it's short-lived.
Starting point is 00:34:34 If you just go on to coach just to put it on your resume, do your thing. But if you're talking about longevity of coaching, coaching the Lakers is not it. No. Coaching LeBronakers is not it. No. Coaching LeBron himself is not it.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Remember, everybody who's coached LeBron has been winners because LeBron has been a winner. So they've had winning records. Everyone, Blade, Ty Lue. Ty Lue won a championship. LeBron left six games later without LeBron. He got fired.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Fired. Six games later without LeBron he got fired fired six games later boom right so you got you know Luke Walton he had a winning record I mean before he got there you had Frank you know he had a winning record won a championship he out of there Luke had a boot O'Gill remember how Luke went
Starting point is 00:35:22 39-4 with Golden State they're like oh yeah he can go for real he can go for real Moodle, Gil. Remember how Luke went 39-4 with Golden State? They're like, oh, yeah, he can go for real. He can go for real. Then you got Darvin Hamm, who has a winning record, out of there. So there's no longevity in this job. So, you know, it's one of those things that you just want to put it on your resume. I was a Lakers coach, and I can get another job after this. If that's the play, then go ahead and do your thing.
Starting point is 00:35:49 If not, you wait for the right opportunity. Yeah. Coach, what do you think? I mean, now that you say that, when you talk about the right opportunity, how many opportunities like this represent itself to coach a historic franchise, winning franchise like that, like the LA Lakers? When I think about players that have played that also coach using football as an analogy, similar to that of Jeff Saturday, what can Jeff Saturday get out of those players when he went to the Colts? A player's coach, a player that understands the players
Starting point is 00:36:16 as a coach. I think about the same thing with JJ Redick. What person or personnel could you add as a coach for the Lakers that will get the most out of the players? Someone that played the game, someone that understands the game, someone that I think LeBron would want as a coach who understands what players are going through, understands the stuff that they need to do game by game. And I think it's a good look. And when you say it's not a good look for him, he should wait for the right opportunity. Well, this is, I think, an opportunity like this
Starting point is 00:36:47 probably won't present itself again to be able to coach for a historic franchise like this. So you got to take that job, even if it is short-lived, because I think J.J. Redick is one that can get the most out of the players that are there. Even though he has no experience, you're bringing another coach that has experience.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Hell, his career there is going to be short-lived as well just like everybody else so jj might as well just take it look here let's be all the way one thousand with this thing this is like just like dating kim kardashian you already know she's gonna break up with you but she's still kim kardashian that's still the laker job that you know they're gonna fire your ass after two years. But guess what? They're still coaching the Lakers. Yeah, you got to take it. So, okay, I rolled a dime. Hey, I got two years out of it.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Got me a couple of pad tacks. Got me a Lambo truck. You know what I'm saying? I went to the Met Gala. Yeah, I did it up big. Okay, I already know I'm going to get the boot. That is what it is. I think it's personal for me because I was JJ's teammate
Starting point is 00:37:47 and I don't feel like killing him next year. That's all, man. I don't feel... Because I got to do what I got to do. He's the coach, so I got to kill a coach when they're doing bad, but I try to be easy on him. But he is a good dude.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Very smart. He works his tail off. When we played in Orlando, I've never seen someone outwork me. Well, in the weight room, that was easy because I wasn't even trying to be in it. But when it came to cardio, JJ had put that thing on. He'd run for five, ten miles.
Starting point is 00:38:24 He just put it on a treadmill and get to going. Right? So he was really fit. And I just never understood, like, how do you just run like this? That's what I do in the game. I got to be in shape. Right? So he's a student.
Starting point is 00:38:37 So, you know, it would be a great opportunity. I just don't want to kill him, and I don't want to see a good dude get fired. Hey, you already know what it is. I mean, you're going with the Lakers. I mean, Frank Vogel won a title. He came back
Starting point is 00:38:51 and I think they lost in the second round. And then he ended up getting fired. I mean, like I said, there ain't no long term in it. I mean, nah. Like I said,
Starting point is 00:39:03 I mean, how do you turn a job like that? How do you say no to the Steel say no how do you say no to the steelers how do you say no to the giants yeah how do you say no to the packers how do you say no to one of these cornerstone franchises yeah okay how do you say no to the knicks how do you say no to the celeste to the lakers you don't say no to those franchises yeah you already know what it is if i don't win damn if i don't win I'll be up out of there oh well. You made me say it because I don't say no to
Starting point is 00:39:28 hands so I know damn well I'm not saying no to franchise. You right y'all right. Y'all got me. Y'all right on that one. I better die. Like he said the competition I mean look what we try to do here is that we try to create, and Gil, you know, you have your own podcast, and I really appreciate Ocho and I, we appreciate you jumping on with us on Wednesday night. But you try to create and produce the best content you possibly can.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Right. But it's not the same as like, I'm competing against, you know, the Boston Celtics or you're on the court and you're competing against another guy. We try to create the best content we possibly can. Are there a lot of people that do what we do? Sure. But I'm not in competition with them. Our competition is ourself. Can we do better than what we did the last show? Can we do better than what we did the last show? Can we do better than what we did last week?
Starting point is 00:40:28 How do we reinvent ourselves? You know, today I dropped the pod with Kel Mitchell. And if you haven't seen it, go check it out on Club Shea Shea. But we had a live performance to start it off and a live performance to close it out. So I'm constantly, CJ and I, Ash and I, we're constantly trying to come up with ways. How do we get better? We got to keep the pressure on
Starting point is 00:40:50 because just when you think I'm over here, I ain't over there. I'm over there. Ah, man. I mean, that's the thing. Sometimes people get complacent with the success and think that everybody else is like, it's just like a race, right? Someone's chasing you, right?
Starting point is 00:41:12 So if you ain't turning it up or trying to turn it up, they're going to catch you at some point. Yeah. That's just life. So you got to always try to reinvent, keep moving, because once someone sees you do something, they're going to do it. Yeah. So you can be ready to do something else. So let them chase you versus they see you do something. They try to tweak it, do it better. Now you chasing your own idea. And that happens a lot. Yeah. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast,
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Starting point is 00:43:49 the pressure of being the GOAT, and so much more. Like, I have no right to be winning this race. I really probably shouldn't even be doing it, but I'm here, so I will win. Listen to this episode of Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, I'm just, look, I'm just a player. I play, I don't care who the coach is. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? That's the way, hey, if I make it like some of these basketball players, hell, y'all bring Sky Bree out there.
Starting point is 00:44:26 She can coach me. I don't care nothing about that. Hey, I got a job to do. Now, some people might think like, Shannon, what's your lowest? Some of my lowest moments in my professional career, two coaches got fired on my watch. Dan Reeves got fired. Wade Phillips got
Starting point is 00:44:46 fired. And there are a lot of times that I ask myself, well, Shannon, had you become what you later became, had you become that earlier, could you have saved those men their jobs? Because each guy believed in me. Dan Reeves drafted me and told me, say, you're too big, too fast, too strong not to make a living for you. Now, he didn't think I was going to turn out to be what I became. And, you know, I used to talk to make a living for you. Now, he didn't think I was going to turn out to be what I became. I used to talk to him before he passed, rest his soul, Dan. He used to have a conversation. He'd say, son, I didn't know you'd turn out to
Starting point is 00:45:12 be this, but I knew you could play in the league. Wade Phillips went and hired Jim Fossil, my first, my offensive coordinator, rest his soul. And he put his office in. He said, son, I'm going to build an office around your skill set behind number seven, which was Elway. You're the best player on this team and I'm going to build an offense around your skill set behind number seven, which was Elway. You're the best player on this team
Starting point is 00:45:28 and I'm going to build an offense around you. One of the first guys that was a tight end that had an offense built around him. And those guys got fired on my watch. And I went to bed a minute late and I was like, I asked myself, had I become what I later
Starting point is 00:45:44 became, had I been that in year one, year two, year three, could I have saved their job? And so it irks me when I see guys not busting their ass or say stuff negative about the coach. That irks me. It really does. Damn.
Starting point is 00:46:03 But man, people talking about Sky man go ahead on man y'all see I
Starting point is 00:46:08 y'all y'all I said you know who Sky Bree is don't you Sky Bree
Starting point is 00:46:14 who that is coach yeah yeah you know that I do it
Starting point is 00:46:19 I do it hey Sky I mean who is that who is that help me out you know you know
Starting point is 00:46:24 I said she you know she look know, you know what I'm saying? She, you know, she a little something, something. You know, she might be famous for vertical activity that she good at. Oh, she a hooper? Oh, yeah. Yeah, a hooper. Who she play for? Who she play for?
Starting point is 00:46:38 Who she play for? You know, she got a whole little thing, you know. Huh? You said y'all. Man, y'all need to stop, man. Y'all need to stop. Y'all be on that bull jive, man. Hold on. Who she play for? Who she play for? Who she play for?
Starting point is 00:46:53 You know, back in the day, she could have been on my team. She play for on her back. Oh, so she play for on her back. It might cost about 1500 right now right now for 1500 oh oh oh oh she went oh she went there she went there okay okay okay y'all y'all had me lost for a minute we talking basketball i'm talking about yeah yeah i'm talking about a different kind of i'm talking now, she might be the Cola Jokic of her
Starting point is 00:47:26 sport. Of her profession? Yeah, she that good. Yeah, baby. Oh, she better than Sarah J? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I learned a little something. Hey, hold on. Let me write that name down. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Hey, also, don't you write that name down. Hold on. I got to do my homework. I got to do my homework. Wait. Hold on. Don't you write that name down. Hold on. I got to do my homework. I got to do my homework. What's her name again? Research Purposes. Sky Bree. Sky Bree? She sound like a hooper. When you think about Sky, Sky Bree, that's a perfect
Starting point is 00:47:57 basketball name too. You feel pretty good. You get a couple of baskets on that one. She passing balls. The one you thinking, Ojo. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm going to check it out. I'm going to check it out.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Man, what y'all be hiding? Man, somebody told me, but I don't know, man. Y'all must be thinking I'm some kind of pervert or some kind of freak or something. Hey, hey, hey. She ain't just not no more. The Kobe of something. Hey, hey, hey. She ain't just... Not no more. The Kobe of it.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Yeah, yeah. Oh, yo, yo, yo. She's too tall. Yeah. Hold on. Time out, time out, time out, time out. I'm confused. I'm confused.
Starting point is 00:48:36 How is this individual that good and that experienced and I know nothing about her? And she look good, too. I don't know. I typed her name in. It started off four guys. I'm like, damn. She need a whole
Starting point is 00:48:50 team. Y'all know how I like my women. It's one-on-one. I'm all in the paint. I ain't doing nothing but scoring in the paint. I ain't taking no joke. Four at one time? Yeah. See, there y'all go.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Hey, let's go ahead. We'll talk about Bronny at the NBA Combine. Okay. I know you want to play one-on-one. You're going to be looking like Rudy Goldberg. Oh, no. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:20 So you already know. So you go into a situation like that, you already know. Oh, Joe. Yeah. And I got that brush. Hey, I done went to the Chinese shop and got that brush on him.
Starting point is 00:49:38 So, hey, it's over. Man, look here. That be the longest scene over. Man, look here. That'd be the longest scene in history. Yeah. Hey, see, now y'all got me. I gotta... Hey, baby! Look up Sky Bree.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Man, you about to get the board. You about to get kicked out the house. Oh, no. Oh, no. Hey, listen. We do our homework, man, and we try to find man you about to get the board you about to get kicked out the house oh no oh no hey listen we do our homework man and we try to find we watch stuff like watching film and we figure out things that we can actually do and bring home to the bedroom
Starting point is 00:50:16 so hey we open like that ain't no problem so we gonna study some of Sky Bree film tonight yeah Sky Bree she better than Bella Donna So we're going to study some of Sky Bree's film tonight. Yeah, Sky Bree. Yeah, she better than Bella Donna. She better than Bella Donna.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Bella who? Don't do it. Don't do it. That's another name? Hold on. Yeah, but she's a little older. Bella Donna? Yeah. Bella Donna? Yeah. Bella Donna. She about 50-something, man.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Oh, she still in action at 50-something? Yeah. Nah, I hope not. It's more controlled. It's more 2020 by herself. Okay, okay, okay. I used to see you run up and down. All this one-on-one by yourself. Yeah, okay, okay. But I used to see, I used to see you run up and down. All this one-on-one,
Starting point is 00:51:07 by yourself, all that. Yeah, that's what I like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's me. That's me, Gil. That's me. That's me.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Yeah, that's me. I like, I like this. See this, hey, that's why I like Nightcap because this shit is so informative. It's so informative because y'all might improve certain areas of my life,
Starting point is 00:51:23 you know, not even knowing me. Not even knowing you improve certain areas of my life, you know, not even knowingly. Not even knowing you improve certain areas of my life by bringing attention to things that I've never seen before that I can use at home and improve in certain areas. Like, that's why I fucking love this shit. You know, ain't nothing like him.
Starting point is 00:51:40 You know, you catch the right one out there, don't you? Listen, he in the vintage mode. Like, I know these names because I was 10, 11, you know, with the squiggly line, right? But when the TV had a squiggly line, and you might see the poles, and you might see
Starting point is 00:51:57 something, that's how I know those names. Ah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, you know. Back in the day, you know what I'm saying? You know, back in the day, I don't, I don't. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. I got to say, you know, I got to say, I got to say,
Starting point is 00:52:15 I ain't got but like probably a thousand left in me. You know what I'm saying? I can't, I can't use them all up looking at, huh? You know what I'm saying? I ain't got but a thousand left. I ain't got but a thousand left. I ain't got but a thousand. I got insurance. You know, I got a thousand.
Starting point is 00:52:33 I got to save you. I got to spread them out. I can't be watching. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I like that. That's why I say when I'm home, I don't do a whole lot of talking. I only got so many breaths left. Right, right, right. Ain't got time to be wasting time talking at home when I'm home, I don't do a whole lot of talking. I only got so many breaths left. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I ain't got time to be wasting time talking at home. I'm quiet. You know, I can't be looking at no magazines and watching no television. Only got so many left for your boy. I know that. Ronnie James at the NBA combine today, he had a team high 13 points on a 4-10 shooting. 23 minutes. LeBron was in attendance
Starting point is 00:53:08 along with his lovely wife Savannah and general manager Rob Palenka. Ronnie also compared his game to players like Holiday, Davion Mitchell, Derek White. Says he wants to impact winning that way. Gil, you watched the last two days of Ronnie. You saw the shooting clinic
Starting point is 00:53:24 that he had from the three-point line. What do you like and what do you think his ceiling is? Excuse me. What do you think Junior, what can he be? You know what? The people he named, that's exactly where his
Starting point is 00:53:39 game is right now, right? The Marcus Smarts, Eric, was it Eric Gordon? Yeah. That's the type of player he is right now on how he plays the game. But he did punch
Starting point is 00:53:58 in a 40.5. He do have a 6-7 wingspan. So he can be a little bit better than those guys. Right now, I like that he's in tune with his game. He doesn't have these expectations that the rest of the world have on him. Oh, I'll be John Moran. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:17 I'm not John Moran. I'm not Westbrook. This is who I am, right? I hit quality shots, right? I take the right shot. I play the game the right way. You know, if I got to, like, what we complain about LeBron when he makes the right play,
Starting point is 00:54:30 that's who Bronny is. That's the game LeBronny fell in love with from his daddy, that I make the right play. If I only take three shots and we won by 30, that's what it was. I've watched him in high school. I've watched him in AAU, and he's had
Starting point is 00:54:45 monster teams, and he gave them the ball. The kid has a 40.5-inch vertical. He can shoot lights out. He can pass. He can be selfish and take 35 shots. He just doesn't like to play the game that way.
Starting point is 00:55:02 His comparable of who he wants to be like and who his game is, is perfect. You can find that guy at 17 to early second round. Yeah. What'd you think, Ocho? I mean, I like it. I like it.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Obviously being very humble, being very humble with his comparisons. But the thing about it, with those comparisons, he can continue to improve his game in many areas. He can continue to improve his game in many areas, except especially like what Gil said. He makes the right passes. He takes the right shots. He doesn't force anything. And obviously, he's like his dad in a sense as far as being a facilitator first. And the shots come he'll take them he doesn't force him but again he can improve i'm not saying he's going to be a russell westbrook or he's going to be a john marant but he can continue to improve and his ceiling can increase way more than what we think it should be and as far as the expectations from the outside world and all the noise coming from them because who your father is and the expectations, the fact that he's ignoring that, and I'm sure his dad has him well-groomed and ready to be able to ignore that and to really make
Starting point is 00:56:11 a name for himself and just improve his game as the years go by. I think he's going to be all right, especially with the way he looks today. He looked really good today. He did. Athletic. But like you said, I mean, he has realistic expectations. Everybody come here, oh, I'm going to be LeBron. I'm going to be the next Kobe. I'm going to be the next
Starting point is 00:56:28 Kevin Durant. Man, stop. Hopefully you don't get sent down to the G League. You know what the best part about this is? What's that? He's playing. He's playing. Normally, the high level kids
Starting point is 00:56:47 I know some of those kids that are in the draft like the Saar, the Rob they're not in Chicago playing right so the fact that he is not a skater to go against the competition that's there like for some people
Starting point is 00:57:03 they're scared because you go there and you get embarrassed, you lose your stock. He's trying to build his stock to show you, look, I can play. Like put me in an environment. This is not college. I've worked on my game and here to show what I can do. I'm not ducking any smoke. So the fact that he's out here, his dad didn't play in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Anybody in the first round usually don't play in Chicago in the last couple years, right? Think about the high-level guys you've heard of that got drafted. You've never seen tape on them playing. So the fact that he's out there saying, I'm not scared of anything, I'm out
Starting point is 00:57:41 here playing, look at me now. It shows you that he's calling the shots because if this was LeBron, LeBron would be like, hey, just work out by yourself. Right? Let's work out by yourself. We're going to protect your image a little bit.
Starting point is 00:57:56 He's like, no, no, let me go out there and show I can play with these guys. Right. I ain't talking. It's kind of like, Ocho, you know, I got some guys like, man, I ain't doing nothing to the combat. I'm Ocho you know I got some guys like man I ain't doing nothing to the
Starting point is 00:58:05 combine I'm gonna wait till I get to it my environment get my quarterbacks gonna throw me the balls or my receivers gonna catch the ball
Starting point is 00:58:12 right I'm gonna be at my pro day and then you get some guys like I don't give a damn because I'm not gonna always play in my home stadium
Starting point is 00:58:19 I'm gonna be on the road I'm gonna be throwing a different receiver so I might as well go and show you that I ain't ducking no smoke. Right. So.
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