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Episode Date: April 12, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to infamous former NFL star O.J. Simpson passing away at 76, new Pittsburgh Steelers QB Russell Wilson saying he "opened doors" for current black QBs,... Cam Newton speaking out on Kirk Cousins' contract, and much more! 2:45 - Start of show 5:30 - OJ Simpson passes away from Prostate Cancer at 76 20:30 - Russell WIlson says he opened doors for a lot of black QBs 36:30 - Cam Newton weighs in on Kirk Cousin contract 46:30 - Cam doesn’t believe Jerry will let Dak become the leader he needs to become 52:30 - Was Tom Brady showing his true personality in New England? 01:00:00 - Tom Brady not opposed to a comeback? (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)      #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And our first segment tonight is a news cat.
News cat.
Hey. OJ Simpson, Orenthal james simpson one of the greatest running backs of all time dots had succumbed to uh prostate cancer he had a long he was fighting a long battle of cancer
he was the age he was at the age of 76 oj simpson known for his football prowess on the days of use at USC and the Buffalo Bills. Later, he's more infamous, infamously known for going on trial for the murder of his ex-wife,
Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend Ronald Goldman.
He was he was acquitted of the criminal trial, but later convicted on civil charges.
Caitlyn Jenner tweeted. Let's take a look at the tweet.
Do we have it up we're
gonna have it up ash sorry for the delay but caitlin jenner um tweeted very tacky very
distasteful basically what he said was good riddance no matter what you think of someone Ocho you don't celebrate someone's death
you never do that
you never do that
there's one thing about God, God don't play
you don't celebrate nobody's death
even if you despise that person based on personal issues
y'all might have gone through
now you have to remember
now OJ
murder, the case case he was acquitted
but obviously
was tried
in the
civil case
now also
again
God don't like ugly
if I'm not mistaken
brother
I mean sister
sister brother
Caitlyn Jenner
also had an issue
2015
fatal car accident
kill somebody
what
hold on
hold on no you didn't no she didn't yeah don't nah 2015 fatal car accident. Kill somebody. Hold on. Hold on.
No, you didn't.
Hey, no, she did.
Don't don't.
Now, everything in the OJ.
We people allegedly he killed Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman.
He went on trial.
Twelve men and women.
A jury of his peers says we don't believe he did it.
Yes. Beyond a reasonable doubt. they acquitted him right he went to trial on the civil charges he was convicted so you mean to tell
me there's no denying that at the hands of caitlyn jenner someone lost their life so how would she
feel now she did she i don't if i'm not mistaken, I don't recall her spending not one day in jail.
Yes, sir.
But you say good riddance.
You happy for the devil.
You know, God don't like, my grandma used to always say when I was a little boy, Ocho,
God don't like ugly.
Sometimes he don't like pretty.
You better be careful.
You got to be careful because you never know your time is up.
Every time we're born, we all come with an expiration date.
Absolutely.
Now, we don't know what that day is, but what you don't want to do is you don't want to speed it up because the tongue is powerful.
There's power in the tongue.
If you're going to celebrate somebody else, listen, if you're going to celebrate somebody else's death, now you got to be careful.
Got to be.
God can show you better than he can tell you.
Absolutely.
Ocho, I'm a little older than you.
And so I know OJ.
I'm 56 now.
Come on now.
I was there.
Listen, OJ, I'm not going to tell you.
I can tell you where I was, but go ahead and bring it.
I'm going to piggyback off of you.
If you're probably around my age, maybe a little older,
OJ Simpson was the guy.
I'm talking about OJ Simpson. We're not talking about what transpired in 94
coming forward we're talking about yeah prior um for you if you played running back you wanted to
get the number 22 you wanted to be the juice because and plus he was the really the first
black athlete to have commercial success. Everybody remember O.J. running through the airport, jumping over everything.
Yeah, I tried that once.
He sold cars.
He had an orange juice commercial.
He was really the first black.
And TV.
Remember O.J.?
What was that movie that he was in with Elizabeth Montgomery?
The Naked Gun.
The Naked Gun.
No, no, no. You remember him in the Naked Gun? Yeah, he was in Naked Gun. But he was in a movie with Elizabeth Montgomery. The Naked Gun. The Naked Gun. No, no, no.
Do you remember him in the Naked Gun?
Yeah, he was in Naked Gun,
but he was in a movie
with Elizabeth Montgomery.
What was the name of that movie?
It wasn't Bernie.
It was A Killing Affair.
Yeah, O.J. got credits,
major credits on his resume.
Yeah.
So he was really the first
black athlete
to have commercial appeal
now we know uh uh muhammad ali but muhammad ali didn't have the commercial appeal because of what
transpired of him becoming a muslim and not wanting to go to vietnam he's like they be a
they call me no n-word i ain't going over there killing the men of some people when y'all y'all
y'all want me to fight over there but y'all won't fight for me right here oj had commercial appeal and so
everybody dudes dudes like healthy dudes chubby dude man i want to be running back man get your
fat butt on the offensive defensive line you ain't getting no 22 they ain't got but 122 oj uh ojo
and this dude you 200 pounds talking about you. Going to be a running back.
Running back.
Yeah,
bro.
OJ.
Yeah.
Now a lot of people try to erase what he did on the field because of what
transpired in 1994 off the field.
Yeah.
I believe,
look,
everybody knows what he did.
He ran the football.
The first, he rushed for 2000 yards and 14 games. Look, everybody knows what he did. He ran the football the first.
He rushed for 2,000 yards in 14 games.
And 14 in Buffalo.
You know what the weather gets like in Buffalo.
You ever played in Buffalo, Ocho?
Yeah, I played in Buffalo twice.
What was cold there?
Okay, so you know.
It was cold.
And New York.
It gets cold in New York.
Yeah, it does. So, so i just like i said i
don't celebrate death no matter what you what you think he may or may not have done i'm still not
celebrating his death because i just know one thing in 1994 two three families lives changed
forever oj kids never had peace because
everybody looked at them with a side eye and a
jaded eye.
Nicole Brown Simpson, her family
was never the same.
Ron Goldman,
his family was never the same.
They never
were ever going to be able to hug their loved
ones and tell them, I love you.
So I empathize with the
families yeah but i don't i don't celebrate someone's death that's not that's not my place
to judge i i you know first of all and we're not going to reach you know we're not going to retry
the case first of all it's 20 it's 30 years ago and second of of all, we're not qualified. No, at all, at all. And people got to be very careful.
I think we become a society that is very numb when it comes to this.
Very numb. We're very numb because we're so used to seeing it constantly every single day.
And if you're someone that is not loved, beloved by by the masses, you have any type of mistakes or ill will that you've done in the
past those mistakes are consistently brought up all the time especially in his case being that it
was such a global impact during that time in 1994 when that incident happened and obviously the
ruling the ruling and the verdict didn't sit well with a lot of people obviously yes it was
celebrated by some and then by some they hate right and so they they
became to hate him you know for for obvious reasons we should hit a lot of people we should
hit a lot of people because there's a lot of people yeah that look that that that that's the
opposite color of us that's murder some of our people and we have to yeah what was the kid what
was the guy in florida they killed that young boy brother jo George, brother Zimmerman. Yeah, Zimmerman.
Yeah, yeah.
The first thing I heard was Shannon,
he went to trial
and he got off.
Let it go.
Yeah, right.
If you don't,
I'm not going to get on no soapbox
and I'm not going to preach tonight.
But I'm just telling you,
we always ask black people
to let it go.
We always got to be big. we always got to be the bigger person
we always got to turn to other chief
yeah got to
you got to
listen they want us to always give grace
always
always want you to give grace
but that's neither here nor there
when do we get to receive it
oh boy it's going to be a long time
when we do get to receive it we ain't going to be here I can tell you that when we do get to receive it oh oh boy it's gonna be a long time and when we do get to receive it we
ain't gonna be here i can tell you that when we do get to receive that grace for everything no
matter how long ago it was we won't be around to know what it feel like i can tell you remember
what i told you oh charles tell about uh uh the great uh uh poet nicky giovanni she was explaining
to uh james baldwin she said i love you the most but i get the least of you we give the most grace poet Nikki Giovanni, she was explaining to James Baldwin.
She said, I love you the most,
but I get the least of you.
We give the most grace, but we receive the least of it.
Oh, yeah.
You know what? The way it's always been set up, and it's always
been set up that way. Stay with me
now. It's always been set up
that way. So, yeah, the first
thing that happened, you have to understand
how this
world in general is built it's just the one is it's the suppress i'm not i'm not here i'm not
i'm not here to preach on no soapbox either but again they always want you know who
to take the ladder and take the the smarter route they want you to do everything in peace always but nothing
ever nothing in nothing in american history was ever about peace how do you think america got
how do you think america got in freedom they got tired of the british telling them
taxation without representation we wanted freedom of religion we wanted freedoms
that's why they don't that tea in the in the Boston Harbor. So name one thing that's ever been a people. What is protest? Because the one thing we know about power, people that have it will take it if you want it now. Think about how did we attain everything over here in the States in general?
Coming in nice?
No.
Being pretty?
Smiling?
How was everything attained in general?
You got to take what you want.
And then once you got it, then you have to preach to the masses.
Well, you need to do everything peacefully and maybe you'll get
what you know how you took it but that's what hey hey you know hey like in time in time y'all didn't
y'all didn't ask the native americans for this land y'all didn't say you know what hey we're
gonna make a deal with you it's your land you've been here for umpteenth years how about we purchase
it from you? Huh?
That ain't what you did.
But, oh, then you put them on the trail of tears.
So, like I said, and I'm sorry, I'm not trying to go down no history lesson with you, but I empathize for the Brown-Simpson, Nicole Brown-Simpson's family,
Ronald Goldman's family.
Goldman's family.
That does see people a lot of times.
Oh, Joe, people say, well, now they can have peace.
There is no peace.
I don't get to have peace.
I've been without my loved ones for 30 years.
I don't get peace.
You can't break.
Someone dying doesn't give me peace because my loved one is still gone. Now, if that person went away and then my loved one came back, now I get to have peace, Ocho.
I don't get no peace out of this.
Peace.
Yeah.
And again, and that's a sign.
Even if you don't say anything, that's a sign of actually celebrating death and feeling like, okay, now I'm at peace.
Because the individual that might be responsible for this incident is finally gone and resting in in heaven or wherever it may be but again people that's watching people in the
chat you got to be careful because the tongue is very very very very powerful very powerful
don't wish no ill will on nobody especially once they transition oj simpson dead of cancer at the
age of 76 to the families impacted by on both sides, God be with you.
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Ocho, here it is.
Russell Wilson says he opened doors for black quarterbacks.
Wow.
Anyway, Russ became the second black quarterback to win the Lombardi.
Normally, the second person to do something doesn't get the credit that the first person does. But we'll talk about that.
Russell said it marked the shift in perception of black men in his position.
Damn.
So much,
so much for what Doug Williams did.
Okay.
But anyway,
Shaq Harris,
Joe simple.
Okay.
Marlon Briscoe.
But anyway,
for me able to go to back to back soup bowls and win one of them,
I think it opened a lot of doors.
Wow.
Now you see guys like Patrick Mahomes who's won it.
And it's really just us so far,
but there's more to come.
What I love to see is guys getting drafted early.
And a lot of teams these days have black quarterbacks playing for them.
I think one of the biggest blessings of my career so far is I've been
fortunate to be able to open doors for others.
Hold on.
So what role did Doug Williams play?
The first African American quarterback
to actually get to and win the Super Bowl
and win the MVP
so what about Shaq Harris
what about Joe Gilliam
so what did Marlon Briscoe do
Shaq Harris
so what about Steve McNair
they opened no doors
Donald McNair, Michael Vick
so they opened no doors
it was you
I think he is a part of it Donovan McNair, Michael Vick. So they opened no doors. It was you.
Yeah.
I think, you know what?
He is a part of it.
He is a part of it, especially in the modern day era of the game of football.
No, you got to think.
We got people in the chat.
Some people, we have a younger generation.
I don't want to cut you off. For me to be able to go to back-to-back Super Bowls and win one of them,
I think I opened up a lot of doors.
He said, I!
Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. He said a part
of. That's not what he said. That's what you said.
Let's take him. No, no, no. I don't want you
to add anything. I don't want you to take anything out.
Let's take him at what he said.
Yes, sir.
Oh, I
create. Hey, when I talk nightcap,
I created it, Socho. Hey, you ain't got no
part of this, Socho. I did this with nightcap.
Huh?
Hey, yeah, I get what you're saying.
He could have said we he could have said we in that case, as far as the team that he was a part of.
I'm just trying to help you out. So what role did Doug Williams play? What role did that play?
Help me out. So what role did Doug Williams play? What role did that play?
Right. I think more so for Russell's sake, he was speaking on behalf of the modern day era, younger kids, younger generation, the generation that probably won't know about the Doug Williams or the other individuals that that the Steve McNair's and the other other quarterbacks that you named that were black,
that the Steve McNair's and the other the other quarterbacks that you named that were black that that have won the kids in today's era might not recognize or know about them so I in a sense I
think Russell Wilson be would be speaking on behalf of his era and the era of younger generation kids
that are playing right now as far as the doors that he opened from the quarterback position that's
the problem with society right now especially these young yes sir just because you don't know it doesn't mean it didn't happen just because
just because people don't know about doug williams or shaq harris or marlon briscoe or jefferson
street joe shaq harris uh uh steve mcnair randall cunningham that doesn't mean they didn't exist
everybody you just named think about this everybody you
just named if you were to ask a kid in high school right now asking about those names they
probably wouldn't know they probably they probably wouldn't know because they don't know the history
of the game and how far they know how far back it goes but to be able to name some of the players
like you just did it wouldn't resonate with them oh joe for those that will read this read this
article that russell Wilson, they will understand
and know who Russell Wilson is because it's a little bit more relatable to the younger generation,
the generation that's playing right now, and the generation that will come after.
So I understand what he's saying, but you are right. You are right. You have to get credit
where credit is due for those that paved the way before you came and did the same thing you did based on what you're talking about.
But I really think he's addressing those of the younger generation today
that have no idea who the Randall Cunninghams were, the Steve McNairs.
Oh, I forgot about – what the hell am I talking about?
We forgot Warren Moon.
Oh, I forgot about Warren.
I forgot about Warren.
Yeah, you're right.
Who still bowls one of the prettiest deep balls ever.
As a matter of fact, I went to the Pro Bowl with Warren Moon also,
which I think I mentioned him.
Yeah.
Ocho.
It was Doug Williams.
It was Doug getting to and winning the Super Bowl that changed a lot.
Like, okay, they can do it.
They can process information fast.
They can think on their feet.
They don't have to be mobile.
Doug Williams was a prototypical
dropback quarterback.
Shaq Harris. Now, Marlon
Briscoe run around. He was for Denver Broncos
to date. He ran around and a lot
of others. Randall Cunningham had legs.
Warren was a dropback
passer.
We forgot about Dante cold pepper.
I forgot.
Most, most black quarterbacks were moving.
They were thought of as mobile.
They, there are a lot of guys that probably could have,
but how many guys that play quarterback got moved to running back?
Why receiver?
Cool.
Uh, DB.
Mm.
Hmm. Hell, they still, to this day, they still trying to do it. Hell, they tried to do a Lamar coming out into the draft. Running back. Wide receiver. DB.
Hell, they still to this day, they still trying to do it.
Hell, they tried to do it.
Lamar coming out into the draft.
Why don't you come out here and run the 40 and run some routes.
Yeah.
What was the wide receiver from Tampa?
From Indiana.
Yeah, Randall Lill went to Indiana, but there was a wide receiver, I think, that ended up, he ended up switching positions.
Cordell Stewart.
Stu B.
Yeah, Stu.
Vince Young.
So what about Vince Young, rookie of the year?
That's all I'm saying, Ojo.
Look, I don't mind
giving people credit,
but we gotta stop thinking like, well, I didn't know that. Just because you don't mind giving people credit, but we got to stop thinking like, well, I didn't know that.
Just because you don't know something doesn't mean it didn't happen.
And we do a lot of that with history, Ocho.
Well, I didn't know Michael Jackson sold that many records.
I didn't know Aretha Franklin was this good.
I didn't know.
Just because you don't know it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Yeah, we also got to stay within the context of what he was talking about.
He did talk about winning Super Bowls.
So Doug Williams won a Super Bowl.
And was Super Bowl MVP.
And was a first-round draft pick.
Right.
So what's he saying again?
Who was the second man to go to the moon?
Only people remember neil armstrong who was the second man to break the sub four minute mile they only remember roger bannister
yeah so who's the first man to run a sub nine seven hundred meters they're only going to
remember who you saying vote who's the first man to go nine, six. So unless somebody goes sub nine,
five,
it's not going to matter.
Oh,
so you know how this thing works.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's always been that way.
Always been that way.
That's why the receivers want to do.
Oh,
Joe,
they want to be the first to get that two K.
Cause it don't matter.
You can have 10 guys.
Oh,
J OJ.
Even though EG has the record, 2105.
People go back to OJ.
Because OJ was the first.
They thought no one could do it.
Not in the 14-game season.
2000?
Yeah, that's a lot of running there, boy.
That's a lot of running.
I just don't understand what he was hoping to accomplish.
By saying what he was hoping to accomplish.
By saying what he said, he opened doors.
Huh?
No, it was the guy that came before you that had success that opened doors for you.
It was the Randall Cunninghams.
It was the Michael Vicks.
It was the Steve McNair.
It was the Dante Culpepper, the Donovan McNabb.
It was a...
We just talked about Doug. I know Doug
very well. Doug went to an HBC, went to Grammar State,
so I know Doug very well.
Talk to him.
Shaq Harris was with me.
Shaq Harris, Rams.
He was with me in Baltimore.
Marlon Briscoe was in Denver.
Jefferson Street Joe.
They opened the door for you.
It was them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think, I mean,
I mean, it opposed me.
Obviously it was, it was a,
it was not a video,
but a, you know,
interview about how he,
about how he feels
about opening some of the doors based on what he's accomplished and what he's done as a quarterback.
I think he could have been a little bit more in depth, went in a little bit more depth about it, about those that opened the doors for him as well.
You know, he just didn't get into into all of that.
But I kind of see where he's going.
And for me, no, Russell, forget the football player.
For me as an individual, he's going and and for me no russell forget the football player for me as an individual he's inspiration but one as a father as a family man you know seeing some of the things that he does
away from the game of football are very inspiring you know and i'm listen i i'm not even ashamed to
do it i'm one that picks up from everybody yeah and the way they move and the way they operate
away from the game of football because i can always be better in many different facets
of my life. And I can always pick up from little things that others do. And Russell is one of those
that I do find inspiring in other ways where I can improve myself as well. But again, based on what
he said, I understand what you're saying, Unc. He could have died a little
deeper in giving credit to those that
also paved the way for him to
open the doors for him, but I think he
was more
focused on what
he did for the game during his time.
Oh, Joe.
When people say, well, Shannon, you
revolutionized the tight end position because
the way the tight end is played, no. Kellen Winslow and Ozzie was doing what I was doing before I was even thought about doing it.
I say the only difference between what Shannon Sharp did, Ozzie and Kellen Winslow Sr. is that there are more guys to do it.
Yeah, without a big wide receiver that they moved the tight end.
Yes.
Could I do things that other tight ends could only dream of doing?
Yes.
But Kellen did that.
Ozzie did that.
There's just more guys.
There's more Kittles.
There's more Laportes.
There's more Hawkinsons.
There's more Travis Kelsey's.
There's more the kid up in Buffalo.
There's more of them.
Knox. Yeah, Daw of them. Knox.
Yeah.
Dawson Knox.
The Dalton shows to Fredrickson.
There's just more guys to do it.
Oh,
Joe.
Yes.
I was unique in my time.
Just like Ali,
Ozzie and Kellen was.
Oh,
I opened the door.
Well,
let me ask you a question.
Who opened the door for you?
How you got your ass in the house?
Somebody had to open the door for you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's taking a deeper dive.
That's how I look at it. When I
talk to Kittle and I talk to Kelsey and I
talk to some of these young tight ends
and they give me my flowers.
I'm appreciative.
But I know because
I grew up and I was watching Kellen and I was watching Ozzy. I'm appreciative. But I know because I grew up and I was watching
Kellen and I was watching Ozzy.
I watched those guys.
Like, guys not getting a thousand
yards is not to say. Guys, because they throw
the ball more. There was really only two
guys in my area that could go get a thousand yards.
That was me and Ben Coates.
Tony came a little
later, but it was just
me and Coates. Just like in Ozzy's time
it was Ozzy
Kellen Todd
Christensen was another
pass catching tight end for the Raiders
but
guys that can move
now these guys are
moving like I move that shouldn't have been a problem
hell I'm only 225, 228 pounds.
Now these guys move like that at 245, 250, 260.
250, yeah.
Running at that.
But I just don't know, bro, Russ,
you've had an unbelievable career thus far.
And I believe you'll continue.
And I hope you're the best.
I hope you can get back to what you were in Seattle for Pittsburgh.
But bro, you got to stop this.
You ain't open no doors because
the door was open before you
walked in the door that somebody left open for you.
That's like when you go
somewhere, Ochoa, and you open
the door and the lady walk in behind you.
How she going to say I opened the door?
No, you did not have the door open for you.
That's what Doug Williams did.
That's what Warren Moon and Dante and Vic and Marlon Briscoe and Jefferson Street Joe and Shaq Harris, Steve McNair, Randall Cunningham, Dante Culpepper, Donovan McNabb.
That's what they did.
They held the door open for you.
Warren Moon, Rodney P.
They held the door open for you, Warren Moon, Rodney P. They held the door open for you, bro.
Yeah, that's a completely different conversation.
You know, it's funny.
That's a completely different conversation based on the question that might have been asked.
But I get where you're going with it.
But he would have had to divert based on what was asked
or what they were talking about in general
and then brought up,
well, this is A, B, and C
while I was able to do what I was able to do.
And these are the people that opened the door for me.
So, I don't know,
but I understand completely.
I understand exactly what you're saying.
If you listen to comedians,
listen to how they talk
they pay homage to the priors to the eddie murphys to the george carlins to the paul
moon those before them to the red foxes to the robin harris robin harris excuse me to the uh
bernie max flip wilson they give them their dude they're not yeah bro comedy been going a long time
black quarterbacks been playing so 2012 was the first year black quarterbacks came into existence
pay homage listen to beyonce how she talks in reverence to those that came before her
listen at the guy that talked in reverence of how people came before them and opened the doors.
The black actors and actresses,
now they just, I guess they just go by one, they're just
actors. You don't say actors and actresses, I
guess, whatever. But anyway,
when blacks would do an outstanding,
ain't even get no nomination.
Yeah. I think
Hattie McDaniel was the first one to win
a supporting Oscar for Gone With The Wind
what was that 36?
mm-hmm
Hattie I think Sidney Poitier
was the first black male to win one
and obviously
Denzel and you got
Mahershala Ali
it was
39 Gone With The Wind
but the book was written in 36 so Ali. It was 39 gone with the wind.
Oh, the book was written in 36.
So,
I just, like I said,
I'm one Ocho. I'm big on giving credit where it's due.
I'm big on that
Ocho. I look,
I ain't discovered
anything. I'm not finna say here
I'm Magellan. I'm Lewis and Clark
and I was the first to do the X, Y, and Z because I'm not finna say here I'm Magellan or I'm Lewis and Clark and I was the first to do
the X, Y, and Z because I'm not.
Well, yeah,
you're right. I just tried
to leave
the Broncos
tight end position,
the Ravens tight end position, and the
position as a whole in a better
position than I found it. And it just
goes to show you that, you know what?
Hey, undersized guy can play this position.
That's all I want to do.
I ain't no, I'm the first.
And?
I just, Cam Newton was my guest this week on Club Shay Shay.
Shout out to Cam.
I really appreciate that, bro.
Among the many things that he talked about,
Kirk Cousins and the contract that's gone viral.
Let's take a listen to what Cam had to say.
Yes, sir.
What the Falcons paid Kirk Cousins,
they could have got Cam Newton, Justin Fields,
and Michael Vick for that price
by giving this person
the money
coming off the injury?
Mm-hmm.
So,
how am I supposed to feel?
Because the same questions
and the same concerns
that you had with me,
obviously,
you done overlooked that.
You don't have those concerns with him.
And if you give Kirk Cousins my resume, he probably would have got more.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Wow.
Hey, listen.
First of all, Cam, Mike Bighead not got too old.
Now, whether or not you seriously want to play football,
that's something that you, your agent, and the team would have to work out.
Am I surprised, Justin Fields?
Because you and I both thought Justin Fields would be Michael Vick 2.0.
Definitely thought he was going there.
Definitely thought he was going there.
Oh, Joe, with textbook, you can't draw up a better situation.
Atlanta, Justin Fields.
Right.
He from a bourbon A.
He close by.
Ooh, ooh.
I was like, oh, yeah, this thing about to be lit.
Mercedes-Benz about to be litty, litty.
But obviously, they went another direction.
And they like a lot of, I mean, obviously, with medicine now, Ocho,
Achilles injury is not a death sentence like it once was.
We saw Kevin Durant come back from an Achilles injury tear,
and he might be playing better than he did pre.
Steel efficient.
Steel efficient.
We watched Dan Marino tore his Achilles,
and he tells you he was never the same.
I mean, he was never Mike Vick, but he said he was never, and he had you he was, he was never the same. I mean, he was never, he was never Mike Dick, but he said he was never,
and he had that, you know, that that's the little,
that's the little on the right.
I used to joke with that joke with daddy when I see him, but yeah,
it's I mean, he, he, he, he makes some points.
He's like, he makes, he makes a point, but you have to understand,
the owners like who they like.
The owners will always like who they like.
And based on Kirk Cousins' resume,
despite his lack of playoff appearances,
his lack of Super Bowl appearances,
they understand what he does during the regular season.
And they believe he's the one for the organization
that can come in and will put up crazy numbers during the regular season.
Crazy numbers.
Offensively, from an offensive standpoint, what they're going to do offensively is they're going to throw the ball over the place.
Kyle Pitts is going to have a better season than he had his rookie year.
Drake London is going to have a better year.
Actually, he's going to have his best year ever because of the person that is at the helm.
B. John Robinson should have more lanes to run because he has soft boxes.
Because of B. John Robinson's ability to run the ball,
catch the ball out the backfield, that makes that offense that much more deadly,
and it makes Kirk Cousins' job that much more easier because you have a running back like that
where they're going to have to stack the goddamn box
and bring somebody down in the box.
And what do you think Kyle Pitts is going to do?
What do you think Drake London is going to do?
They're going to feed off of Kirk Cousins
who is going to wing it.
He's a gunslinger.
I'm not saying a gunslinger
from the point of like Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers type arm strength.
No, no, no, no, that ain't what he is.
But listen, he's going to wing it every time.
Every time.
And I think the thing is, Ocho, it's like, Cousins,
it wasn't like he was mobile to begin with.
He was a drop-back quarterback to begin with.
So it's not like he's losing anything.
What's he losing?
Right.
Okay, so he ran.
So now he goes from a 5'4", 40 to a40 to a five five five six. He ain't going away anyway
Yeah, when he when he got a run he can't they just put it put it to you like that
Well, as long as as long as this
Third and short anything what we call three yards or less
He ain't getting on 30 Tito choke unless it's 25 and they way way down the field
Right, right on 30-10 or so, unless it's 25, and they way, way down the field.
Right, right.
Yeah, but I understand what Cam is saying.
Yeah.
I understand what Cam is saying
completely, but again,
I look at the resume
and what Kirk Cousins has done
when he was healthy,
whether it was with the,
I mean, sorry,
whether it was with the Commanders,
whether it was with the Vikings,
you understand
and you know what you're getting.
As long as you have
the supporting cast around him, you have the pass catches around him, oh, it's with the Vikings, you understand and you know what you're getting. As long as you have the supporting cast around him,
you have the pass catches around him.
Oh, it's going to be maybe a 4,500,
maybe a 5,000 yard season.
You never know.
But I think that's what the Falcons are baking on
and getting the Kirk Cousins
that we saw with the Redskins and get,
oh my God, the Kirk Cousins we saw with the Commanders
or the Kirk Cousins we saw with the Vikings.
And Kirk came in the league in
2012, so this is about his 13th
season.
$331 million guaranteed, one playoff win.
Yeah.
What are we
paying for, Ojo?
Listen, Kirk Cousins
is a God-fearing man, and he's a praying
man, and God has favor.
Guess who God has favor for? Kirk Cousins is a God-fearing man, and he's a praying man, and God has favor. And guess who God has favor for?
Kirk Cousins.
That's the only thing I can think about it.
No issues, no hiccups, no problems.
Family man.
Does everything the right way.
Doesn't have any playoff, doesn't have much playoff experience outside of one playoff win.
No Super Bowls,
but you know what you get in the regular season.
And you know the numbers are going to be beautiful
from an offensive perspective.
That's the only thing I can think of.
Yeah, I think the thing is, look,
we want a quarterback that can distribute the football,
get the ball out of his hand.
Yes, we know Kirk can do that.
He can get the ball out of his hand.
We know Kirk can do that.
He can get the ball out of his hands.
Not very.
He's not the greatest.
Once we get off the script.
But as long as things can flow and he can keep it going and we call the play and everything.
Oh, he can light you up now.
We good.
Yeah.
Hey, you know, we've seen him have 400 yard games.
We've seen him outdo some of the best quarterbacks in the league.
I remember him going head-to-head with Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah.
And Rodgers was doing his thing, and Kurt was like, uh-uh, not to be outdone today, bro. Right there with him.
Yeah.
It's all in what the organization wants.
It's all what the offensive coordinator wants.
It's all what the coach wants.
Obviously, you know, the owner has to sign off on it.
Again, Justin Fields would have been dynamic. He would all what the coach wants. Obviously, you know the owner has to sign off on it. Again, Justin Fields would have been
dynamic. He would have
been dynamic. Yeah. You know,
in that offense, exciting, he can throw.
He can also run. He would be a dual
threat, but they didn't want to go in that direction.
They didn't want to go in that direction.
People ask like
Jefferson Street Joe if Joe Gilliam.
Oh.
Yeah, man.
I understand what Cameron's talking about, though.
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get your podcast cam also spoke about jerry jones holding dak prescott back let's take a listen what
cam had to say about this dak prescott we looking for that
motherfucking dog
and I don't think Jerry
Jones will allow him to become that
because you
got to be politically correct
you got to be almost the president
of football almost to be
the signal caller for the Dallas Cowboys
what Dallas Cowboys
need at that quarterback position
is somebody say,
now, fuck that.
This is my shit.
This is what we gonna do.
I hear all that.
But we're trying to win.
We're trying to win, yes or no.
Okay, cool.
Now, unleash me
and let me win this football game.
I like that.
I like that.
But you can't listen.
The quarterback position,
you can't conduct yourself like that.
Not in Dallas?
Not in the spread, not in the sheer, especially not with that
stalling helmet. You know what this reminds me of?
Remember when Obama was in
office? Obama's
in office. He has to conduct himself a
certain way because of the position
that he holds.
You at the highest seat. Yeah, for sure.
So you have to move, even if it's not the way you are,
you have to conduct yourself
a certain way.
You have to camouflage,
put that mask on,
and you got to move
a certain way.
It's no different
for Dak Prescott
with the Dallas Cowboys
wearing their Star Wars helmet.
At the quarterback position,
you are the face of the franchise.
You have to conduct yourself
a certain way.
Even if you want to be,
in which Cam just mentioned, you can't
do it. Oh, hell no. Not in Dallas. You ain't
doing that. You can't do it.
Now, there are other places you might have a little
leniency and a little grace to get away
with it, but Dallas with
a star? Man, they had your ass up out of
there so goddamn fast. You remember, Ocho,
you remember when the protest, when Jerry
says, as long as you're on this
team, you're going to be toes on the
line, helmet under your arm
when that anthem is standing.
When that anthem is playing.
I know, I know,
in theory, I know what Cam is saying.
In theory,
it's kind of like, man,
all the things that my grandfather said, it sounded
good. We should have booked back in the day.
That wasn't happening.
Exactly. Nobody been here to tell
that story.
I know his own kids
didn't book. I know the grandkids wasn't going to book.
So, you
already know, Jerry,
who Jerry is. And I told you this,
Ocho.
Jerry wants to be the face. already know Jerry, who Jerry is. And I told you this Ocho. Yeah.
Jerry wants to be the face.
That's why he can't bring a strong coach in that could potentially win
because he's going to get something that Jerry
never got, which is credit.
The credit. Jimmy got the
credit. And even when they won the Super
Bowl without Jimmy, they say you won it with Jimmy
players.
Yeah.
You see?
So now it's kind of like he's like, I got to.
That's why I keep saying if I can just win one more of these things,
because one, but he's got to do it with a coach that falls in line.
Yeah.
And you said the key word.
You heard that key word you just said
you got the falling line at the quarterback position now skill position receiver db
deepest in d tackle and you that boy oh man you may do say you can say whatever you want to
as long as you are producing at a high level and the key word not only producing but
consistently yeah if you're consistent you producing man you goddamn you come in the
locker you do whatever you want but no position carries the aura uh the face like the quarterback
coach of a quarterback yeah that's why you have to conduct yourself a certain way you have to yeah
and so
and plus in matter of fact now that we're going to talk now we now that we're on the topic of that
can you think of a quarterback who displayed themselves in the manner in which cam just said
not in dallas hell no i'm just saying in general man
yeah yeah jim Jim McMahon moved the helicopters
he was flipping out
the command
Jim McMahon
was over there
it was
it was a
it was a different time
back then
right
but no
would it work
would it work today
no
we got 32 NFL teams
is there a quarterback
today that can get away
with actually being themselves?
No.
Yeah.
Matter of fact, it's another one for the chat that's listening right now.
Think about Peyton Manning.
Think about Tom Brady.
Think about how they're viewed and they're perceived.
And I got a question for you.
I don't know if you know him personally like I do.
Do you think the world has seen the real Tom Brady and the real Pey peyton manning no absolutely the fuck oh my god no that's my second time sorry no we haven't
even seen we haven't even seen the real tom brady and the real peyton manning unless you know them
personally i'm telling you myself you ain't seen that's not the real them it has to be masked. Yes. I'm a CEO. I'm basically I'm running for public office.
Yeah.
All the time.
Yeah.
And I need your vote all the time.
And, you know, at times I wonder if it could be draining.
Of course.
At times I wanted to use.
I wonder you sit back and be like the fact that I have to continue to do this.
And this is the 24 hour job.
It's what you say. It's what you it's what you signed up for by the ocho you have to put an overcoat on
every day no matter what the temperature so in other words they got to put that face on
no matter how they're feeling hey how you doing you know golly gee whiz oh shucks man just
unbelievable i respect that team so much man we're gonna kick that you know what because if you think about it
think about what Thomas said and then what his teammates say in the locker room after the victory
or before the game that's not what he said publicly and then what he said behind closed
doors and we get it we absolutely look completely a lot of time Ocho and and for us you and I I mean
you you had a lot more antics.
I was kind of a little bit more buttoned up.
But people like, man, man, I ain't no uncle like that.
Man, you watch Uncle Nightcap.
Man, that ain't no undisputed uncle.
That ain't no first take, huh?
Right, right, right, right, right.
I was very, like, go in front of the cameras and put on my best.
But everybody know what you see, kind of what you see right here,
is what Shanna
was in the locker room
exactly
so obviously with me I've
always been this way this was me I came in
like this and I'm still like this
this is how people in the chat
if you watch Tom Brady throughout the years
look at the Tom Brady
in New England and this is how you know
he had to suppress who he was look at the Tom Brady in New England and look at the Tom Brady in New England and this is how you know he had to suppress
who he was
look at the Tom Brady
in New England
and look at
the funny
comedic
personality
showing Tom Brady
that was in Tampa
yeah for sure
Twitter
Twitter
funny as hell
the videos being put up
making jokes
being a little
being a little bit more free
being a little bit more expressive
in who he really is.
Yeah.
Night and day.
Two different people.
Total, complete two different people.
You do, Ocho. You have to bite your tongue a lot
when you're in our position.
Even when you're a professional athlete.
But more so when you're a black athlete.
So, imagine LeBron
oh man
listen man
and he
probably got LeBron probably got
it the worst you know LeBron
be cursing in interviews
sometimes so you know LeBron
drop a couple of bombs on you
in a private conversation but the Brian, you want to drop a couple of bombs on you in a private conversation.
But the thing is, you have to stay buttoned up all the time.
It's like you said, it's a 24 hour job being president of LeBron James Inc.
It's a 24 hour job being president of Tom Brady's Inc. Or Peyton Manning Inc. It's a 24-hour job
because they've cultivated this perception
for such a long time.
And see, that's what...
And they got to stay on cue.
Because what was it?
It wasn't that Tiger Woods had infidelity.
It was the perception in which he cultivated.
Right.
Man, I thought Tiger went home.
And man,
wasn't no IHOP
or Perkins waitress safe.
What?
No, no, no.
They won't go top
or let them die.
Yeah.
Hey,
give me the whack.
Give me a,
give me a grand,
that grand,
that grand slam.
Yes.
Give me the grand slam
or give me the IHOP special.
Give me that Perkins special
to go.
You come on with it.
I'm taking,
I'm taking my order and you. So whoever brought to go you come on with yeah i'm taking i'm taking my order
and you so whoever brought it out come on with me hey that's the thing that's what that's i mean
like you can also you can never have a bad day no because think about how long and even even even
if you are having a bad day you still got a a mask. Yes. Yes. You have to think about how long it took them to cultivate.
It's kind of like you planting a tree. If you were to play, that's just say an acorn, you acorn and you plant it in the time that is going to go to an oak tree.
You probably won't be around to see it. Think about how long they've been cultivating
this perfect
image that they put on display
and just
like that, it's gone.
Yeah. You know it's
bad for the people. You know it's bad for the masses,
but it's good for those who are close to these
individuals, the Peyton Mannings,
the Tom Bradys.
It's us, us that actually know them
personally getting to see the real.
Yeah.
I think the world would appreciate them so much more if they could actually see the authentic
organic person they are without having to put the cape or the mask on or be a certain
way publicly to the masses.
You would appreciate, appreciate them that much more and then you'll also see how relatable yeah who are the greatest
of all time are to you that makeup ojo why you ojo why you think these look at l'oreal
mac why you think these cosmetic giants make so much money they're not the only one that's
masking themselves. Yeah.
L'Oreal, that heiress, she's the world's richest woman. I think she's worth, what, $94 billion?
$64 billion?
The L'Oreal heiress.
What'd they make, Ocho?
Make up.
Yeah.
All to the billion dollar, billion, multi-billion dollar year industry.
What did they do, Ocho?
Make up. To give you the illusion that you're someone that you're not one of the most what's one of the what's one of the
most popular holidays for adults halloween i get to dress up i get to be something that i'm not
i'm not yeah That's what it is.
I wish,
I wish they,
I wish they could,
I wish they could have a day
so the world could
really appreciate them
for who they really are.
Oh, I said,
okay, one more thing.
I forgot.
We said OJ's number
was 22.
It was 32.
32, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
32.
I should have called over there. Yeah. Yeah, it was 32 32 yeah oh yeah 32 i should have caught over there yeah
yeah it was it was it was 32 and so before we go into what he what he allegedly did
ain't no defense we're not ocho and i we ain't offering no defense for oj we're my last my last
name ain't my last name ain't no no. No, no. Or Jerry Spence or
any of these big time lawyers. That ain't
what we do. We were talking about the man,
the football player,
that succumbed to his battle with cancer.
That's what we're doing. So don't, oh,
nightcap, Uncle Ocho was defending.
Ain't nobody defending anything.
No, no. So
don't even go out there and take that out there
and you don't offer it.
There's nothing to defend.
What we're all upset about, what I was upset about, you could speak to yourself, is that what Caitlyn Jenner said, good riddance, as in celebrating the death of someone.
That's what Ocho and I, I mean, had she not said what she said, we would have never mentioned her name.
And then we could have just talked about OJ.
Hey,
he was a tremendous football player.
The credit that he had in acting,
um,
um,
naked gun.
Most people know him for naked gun.
Uh,
uh,
the one he had with Montgomery,
we would have just talked about that,
but we had to bring her in it because she inserted herself in it because she thought it
was cute knowing right did she realize that she took a man's life yeah isn't hey what's what's
the saying let ye who wait cast the first stone or what's the saying if you're not at least you
be judged okay we'll take that one.
I'll take that one.
Something about a glass house.
Don't throw a stone at me.
Whatever it is.
I don't know how to say it.
So, what else we got?
Tom Brady said he's not opposed to an NFL comeback.
Let's listen to what TB12 had to say.
Let's say one day there's a situation, right?
Maybe it's the 49ers.
Maybe, you know, heading to the playoffs.
Offense is great.
Patriots.
Somebody.
Raiders could be.
You never know.
God forbid somebody goes down.
Would you pick up that phone?
I'm not opposed to it.
I don't know if they're going to let me if I become an owner of an NFL team.
But I don't know if – I don't know.
I'm always going to be in good shape.
I'll always be able to throw the ball. So to come in for a little bit,
like MJ coming back,
I don't know if they let me,
but I wouldn't be opposed to it.
I like it.
Oh,
Joe,
like,
like a football,
like a basketball player come back.
You can schedule,
you can regulate his minutes.
Okay.
You want to go play 20 minutes.
You want to go play 25 minutes.
Quarterback.
I don't know.
Tom Brady,
how you regulate his minutes. Cause he going to want to be on the field yeah that most definitely and the
funny thing about it is if you have to understand with the way the nfl has handicapped the defenses
in today's game yeah you can't hit nobody you can't do nothing you can't touch him
hell he can come back even at what he 46? He might be older than that 47 You know what's funny?
I mean a lot of people will say nah
he can't do it. Boy you put Brady
in the right situation
He'll be 47 August 3rd
Hold on let me take my glasses off
real quick. Stay with me
What happens?
What happens if you put Tom Brady on the
not the Patriots. You put Tom Brady in place of Brock Purdy. What happens if you put Tom Brady on the page on not the Patriots you put Tom Brady
in place of Brock Purdy
what happens
if you put Tom Brady
in the 49ers
I just hope
nobody hits it
well what happens
if you put Brady
the supporting cast
matters
of course it does
boy
Brady
over there
with the 49ers
but but Ocho did you listen Of course it does. Boy, Brady over there with the 49ers.
But Ocho, did you listen?
What was the first team that he named?
The Patriots.
That's not an accident.
All this notion, Tom was ready to leave.
Bill Belichick pushed Tom Brady out the door.
It's like you're, have you ever been skydiving, Ocho?
Yeah, I ain't even used no parachute.
But go ahead.
But they take you up about 12,000, 13,000 feet, Ocho.
And the plane is going along
and all of a sudden, the plane...
The speed break.
All of a sudden, that door opens.
Now, I'm in a two-man tandem mojo we start to walk to the mr sharp you ready
hey i'm like hey oh joe he asked me say mr sharp are you ready and before i could say yeah I'm out of there I wasn't
but I guess I am now
you can't put me back in there
it is a
it's a
think about it Ocho
sometimes we've all jumped up
you play receiver you jumped up and caught a ball
you're like damn it don't seem like I'm going to ever come down
just imagine
being 12,000 feet up in the air feet they pushed tom out tom wasn't ready to leave new
england don't you let people don't you let anybody convince you of that he had gotten tired of coach
belichick bull jive coach belichick believed that he could win a Super Bowl without Tom Brady. Without him.
There would be no doubt that he was the reason for the success.
Reason.
Right.
Because we saw in San Francisco, when Coach Walsh retired, they went back to back with George Seifert.
They won in 88.
Coach Walsh retires.
George Seifert comes in 89.
They win, get to the NFC
championship game if I'm not mistaken Roger Craig
fumbles LT recovers
they kick a field goal they go to the Super Bowl
so now
like okay Joe was most
responsible for this
now with Tom
going to Tampa
and Coach Belichick struggling
in New England now Now, that's
not to say we can't give
Coach Belichick credit because
he deserves credit because
he drafted some good players.
He came up with great game plans
to neutralize the opposing
team's offense and
Tom was great
enough that if the game was
close, he didn't make
very many mistakes. I mean, think about it.
Maybe, I can only remember
in one big game,
AFC Championship game, Tom Brady
threw a pick. Marlon
Jackson, if I'm not mistaken, intercepted him
in the Indy game. That's really
the only time that I can remember
that Tom
threw a pick to end the game.
And, you know, look, we know he lost.
He what?
He's he's what?
Seven and three in Super Bowls.
Tom is seven and three.
Seven and three.
Seven and three.
So he lost three Super Bowls.
He lost a couple of AMC Championship games to the Broncos.
So he doesn't always get it done.
But for the most part.
He does.
Yeah.
Bella Bella. Bella check. but for the most part he does yeah bell bell bellichick we have to give bellichick his credit
obviously being a defensive mind that he is every anytime they play someone that has
an elite player he finds ways to eliminate that elite player if you guys are going to beat us
you're going to have to beat us with other guys and he's always been great on the defensive side of the ball on top of drafting well
and getting the most out of his players.
But again,
this is a quarterback driven league.
And if you don't have a quarterback,
no matter how well you draft,
no matter how good that defense is,
if you don't have a quarterback
on the other side of the ball
to be efficient
and move that goddamn ball
up and down that field
and then not turn the ball over in critical times
in the game. That's what he was
great at. Critical times in the game,
you can always fall short. It ain't very
many times that you say, you know what?
Man, Tom, he played well.
And even if he didn't play
well, you better be up with one
minute left in the game, you better be up 14.
Because he might not play well, but guess what up with one minute left in the game, you better be up 14. Because he might
not play well, but guess what?
Let it be a two
point, you up ahead by two, or you
ahead by one, or you ahead by six
and he need to touch down the beaches.
And it's a game winning drive.
But you might
as well strike up the band.
Might as well.
But it was an accident that the first team he mentioned was New England.
Was Patriots.
And, Tom, you're right.
If you're an owner in the league, they're not going to let you play in the league.
So you're going to have to divest your shares, which I wouldn't do,
considering, like, hey, you're a part of a union.
It ain't very many.
It's not very many former players that's in the ownership position in the NFL.
You there.
Stay there, Tom. You good. But you know what? Listen now. very many former players that's in the ownership position in the nfl you there stay there tom you
good but you know what listen now there's there's a chance that he might be the first player
who has ownership in a team that he's not on but it's also actively still playing it's never been
no you can't play you have to divest yourself okay you come back i would like you have to
divest them i would like to see it i'm sure he ain't got no problem doing that
because them shares will still be there when he does
somebody else come in and buy them
just I mean Tom
look
you're right you're always going to be
I mean two years
after you play you like man I can still play
and Tom is just he's only a year removed.
He's only a year removed.
It's not like he's five years removed.
We're always, that's what makes us who we are.
We always believe we can do things that's not possible.
That's how we became what we became.
Yeah.
If you listen to everybody that told you Ocho is living in the city,
man, Ocho, you ain't going nowhere
you could be right here with us I don't know well I was gonna get out I was gonna get up out of there
I was gonna get up out of there I left Liberty City I love I love stay with me now I love saying
this I left Liberty City without really leaving because when I, I took it with me and always put Liberty City on display.
Right.
Always.
Always.
It was always there with me no matter how high I got.
No matter how high I got, even when I fail, I still remain consistent in who I was.
But I was getting about it.
She.
Because remember, that was one of the reasons that Jordan went back to the wizard.
He was going to be able to get an ownership stake in the wizard,
but him and Mr.
Polian had a falling out.
Mr.
Polian ended up firing him.
The rest of that,
they say he ends up buying a minority share into the Hornets.
Was it the Hornets or the Bobcats at the time,
but he ended up buying,
buying,
buying into the, the team in Charlotte.
They didn't change names.
They were the Hard, Bobcats.
They were the Hornets.
Whatever the case may be.
Wait a minute.
Stay with me now.
What happens?
He did mention Patriots.
I could have swore he mentioned Raiders too.
Yeah.
But see, that's where he has the part ownership in the group.
Ain't no telling. you know, he would.
Would you say you got to do divert?
Not diversify.
What's the word you use?
Yeah, divest.
Now, I mean, Brady, Brady, Devontae Adams.
I can I can see that.
Yeah, I can see that.
Antonio Pierce, I'll let you boy.
Oh, what do you want to say?
You said so.
It was about it. They were the Bobcats.
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