Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Rams rout Vikings, Ocho’s got beef, Rashod Bateman joins th show

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Matthew Stafford and the Los Angeles Rams taking down the 14-3 Sam Darnold and Minnesota Vikings in the NFC Wild Card Playoff game on Monday Night Football. Later, Unc and Ocho address the beef over Unc signing Sharelle Rosado’s podcast, Humble Baddies, without talking to Ocho first, the guys are joined by Baltimore Ravens WR Rashod Bateman and much more!03:19 - Show start23:14 - Vikings v Rams36:25 - Rashod Bateman joins the show58:26 - Cowboys part ways with McCarthy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Please go vote for you guys. The link is pinned in our social bios. Oh, Joe, before we get into the game, there's a lot going on today. S.S.M. Shay Shay Media, we add an addition under umbrella. We're going to produce and distribute humble baddies. And a lot of speculation is going on that I'll tell Oh Cho about this situation I didn't know I was supposed to tell we run in a business here and

No, I did not tell Oh Cho. I didn't feel I didn't feel I needed to tell Oh Cho We're running a business and when you run a business you do what's in the best interest of the business Oh Cho Not not really in the best interest of business. We are a partnership. You and I, we start we started nightcap. If we are partners, anything that has to do with something that was a part of my life, which is including her and she leaves my life. That means she's no longer a part of what I have going on.

That's including nightcap. So just because you and I, from a relationship, from a football relationship to a business relationship, if she decides to leave me and my life, that means she's gone. So you my dog. So that means- I didn't say that.

Well, I remember saying that, Ocho. I remember you and I had this conversation. So you're not even standing on business about what you said and how you live based on your whole, your, your morals and the way you operate. You're right. I lied a little bit.

Oh Joe, this business we're trying to make, I'm trying to make money. Don't you want to make money? Yeah, I want to make money, but listen, all money ain't good money. All money ain't good money. You that's, that's something that you didn't have to do. And matter of fact, if you were going to do something like that, something like that, you know how I felt about the situation already? She left. She left. So if she decided to leave me, to sign her and not even running by me and let me know something, give me a heads up,

give me, give me some type of warning. Let me know. Hey, listen, I'm thinking about. Oh Joe, I signed really, I signed really her girls to a contract. I'm letting you know. Here you go with the bullshit. I'm letting you know. Hey, here you go with the bullshit. Hold on. Hold on. No, no, no, no. No. You told me when you leave,

you done. That's one less expense. So I figured I was like, well, Ocho don't really care. So let me go ahead and make this happen. Yeah, I'm saying you got to understand you got to understand where I'm coming from. It's about principle. You know, you're're supposed to be a dog. I mean, you're a dog. You got to play that different. You got to play that different.

So all things being equal, how should I have played this out? Boom, hit my line. Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring. Yeah. You remember back in Atlanta, Rael and I had a conversation. She had a podcast and she was wondering if I would be interesting in having my company produce it and distribute the podcast. She said she talked to you. She said it was okay. I said, sure, real, let's talk. Let's reconvene. You and I asked to jump on a call on Monday, which we did. And we discussed it. And we finally got everything. We got them what they needed. We're going to produce the show. We're going to distribute the show. And they're going to do it a couple of times a week

instead of the one time a week. They're going to go twice a week. And she was really excited about this. She said, you were excited about this. Now, once we start down an agreement, I got to be a man of my word. I say, yes, we're going excited about this. Now, once we start down an agreement, I gotta be a man of my word. I say, yes, we're going to do this.

Time out, time out, time out. When you guys had that talk, when I was excited about the opportunity for her to join under the umbrella of Space Hate Media, doing her thing, listen, I would have before, but once she decides to leave me, when she decides to leave me, she leaves us. She leaves anything that has to do with nightcap media. She left you. She was still with Shae

Shae Media. So see, see, I'm talking about principle alone. If she leave me, then you should be like, listen, I can't run for more. There's so many. I had already given her the money. Oh, there's so many. Yeah, I had already given up the money. Oh, you did? Yeah. How much was it? I... That's between you and me. That's between you and me. I'll tell you what, I would give whatever the advance was,

I'd give it back to you, but I just don't, I really don't think that's a good look because now, you know, we in a rough patch right now, right? And... Who is we? Huh- Who is we? Huh? Who is we? Oh, you and her, I thought you talking about

you and I were in the rough patch. I said, you and me, you in the good patch. We good, we good, we good. I mean, if I was in front of you, we would have had a tussle today, though. We would have had a tussle. Yeah, we would have had a tussle. First of all, I'm gonna be hell at you

because you already owe me $5,200 and you try to take more money out of my pocket with Raell. Matter of fact, the fact you definitely ain't getting no money now, you definitely gonna have to get it in blood that you ain't run that by me. You ain't even run that by me. Okay, so you said I gotta take it in blood? That's the only way you gonna get it.

Don't mind if I do. I don't mind if I do. So, hey, Israel! You know, so they can stop trolling. The outro minions. Yeah. Make sure y'all go subscribe to Humblebaddies podcast. Thank you, Shayshay Media. We love y'all.

Thank y'all for the support. And he is our number one supporter. He was the first one to subscribe to Humblebaddies. Hey, but listen, listen, listen. Let me tell you something. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.

I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. Thank you for the support. And he is our number one supporter. He was the first one to subscribe to Humble Baddies.

Hey, but listen, listen, listen, people in the chat. I was trolling a little bit earlier today. Now listen, this is all business. I understand business. It's all about putting your people on, allowing them to flourish and whatever endeavors that they have um i was a supporter of this uh but this does not change things no this does not change things at home the foundation the forefront still needs some work

you know it still needs some work but i i and. Yeah. But anyway, I'm happy for her colleagues. I'm excited for their show. I'm going to be producing and doing editing. That's what we're not going to allow to do. That will be that you welcome. You welcome to join in and be a guest. Have you a little guest bottle there? Right. Right. Right.

We are not going to let you edit. We're not going to let you produce. I'm here to be a supporter. I'm here to be a supporter, you know, and if at any point she wants to, you know, reconvene and reconcile our differences, I sit down and we'll talk about it. But that's great. I mean, you have been Rell's biggest supporter because you brought it to us that Rell wanted to be a part of Shea Shea Media. And when she mentioned it in Atlanta, I was like, let's reconvene on Monday. We actually had this conversation.

You mentioned it to me, Rell had, you know, she had up doing her thing and she wanted to put it with somebody that have the infrastructure that can make the thing be what she believes it can be with her and her partners and I said, okay, let's talk to rail rail had a conversation with me. I said, well, let's talk you and I and I should get on the phone on Monday and we'll have a conversation and we can see if

this is something that can work, but rail. This is a lot of work. I mean, this is not something that you do. If you really want it to be successful, which you found out Ocho, this takes a lot of work. If you want it to be successful. Now, if you want to do something as a hobby, it says, okay, I got a little mic, I got a camera, and I want to do something 20, 30 minutes a day, that's fine. But if you really want this thing to be successful

and to want it to grow, you have to devote a certain amount of time to it. And, uh, and, and knowing real background, how she turned her real estate thing into a big deal. She has a show on Netflix that's coming out, I think in a week or two, Ocho. So I know she's going to work to make it, make it possible. But what I, but the thing is, but you see, Ocho, what you get an opportunity to see, you get opportunity to see how people

wanna tear you apart real quick, don't they? Oh yeah. You see how they jumped on that so far and so quick. To try to rip you and our apart. So now you see everybody tell me, oh, I love Nightcap. No, they don't. No, they don't. And hey guys, all y'all that got that thing

or there might be trouble brewing in Nightcap and Unc and Ocho, we are that pull up because there are certain guys out there could y'all spend a lot of time talking about Shannon Sharpe talking about what Shannon doing on ESPN what he's doing here what Ocho's doing we really appreciate that yeah now how y'all looking yeah and how y'all looking right now it's all love it's all love it's all love for all our competitors out there you know how I feel about you. I still love you anyway. There's a big plate and there's enough for all of us to eat.

There's enough for us to eat. You know, you need to understand that and something about before nightcap, before nightcap before that was ever came about, Shannon Sharp was a friend of mine. Shannon Sharp will always be a friend of mine, you know, business. I would never allow business or money to get in the way of that. Never. I've never been one to fall out about stuff like that. There was an opportunity that presented itself. Obviously Mrs. and I, you know, business, I would never allow business and money to get in the way of that. Never, I've never been one to fall out about stuff like that. There was an opportunity that presented itself,

obviously Mrs. and I, you know, we, we, we, we, we going through some rough time right now, you know, you know, but when it comes to business, when it comes to continue to elevate her and her career and what she has going on, all four, even though we might not be seeing eye to eye right now, you know, I'm all- And to thank you, you know, I'm Thank you, Ocho before I got here and and and Shae Shae Media Club Shae Shae

Nightcap took off how many of those people that have podcasts mentioned Shannon Sharp? Before this thing took off with you and I Ocho how many of the things how many people mentioned Ocho and Shannon Sharpe? It seems to me that the only content that they can create is self-made, is you and I. You and I have a disagreement about you coming late. You and I disagreement about the players or something you disagree, I disagree.

Go ahead. I have a question. Can I say something really? Yeah. And this is for people in the chat, people in the chat, and this is for you and our team, you know, collectively. I'm never late actually. You just started too damn early. That's the problem, I ain't never late, you know?

You just started too goddamn early. We kind of have a floating time. We kind of like want to start between these times. But sometimes Ocho float past that. But this is a great opportunity for real. They're going to be more that's going to be more people that's going to join on Shade Shade Media. We got meetings with a lot of other people coming down the pipeline.

So in the near future, we're going to add probably one to maybe even three. By June, we'll have three more up under the umbrella that we'll produce. We'll distribute and go ahead. Oh, I have one more thing. Now I understand this is business, right? I know and I'm all for business and I'm all for making money, you know, and sometimes they say all, all money and good money, the hell it is in this economy. Well, if I can get,, I got to have it. Is there anything,

is there anything you can structure in her contract where I can get a certain percentage based on a finder's fee? Because if it wasn't for me. What real you would give you without her, out of their cut, that between you and real. No, no, no, no, no, no. What we're going to do, real is go get her check every month. That's all I got for you. That's between you and Rell. All right, what we gonna do, Rell is gonna get her check every month. That's all I got for you. That's between you and Rell. I ain't got nothing to do with that. No.

I don't play, the one thing I don't do is I don't play, look, I'm not the government. Unless we get something from the government, from an agency that say we need to garnish Rell's wages. Right. I ain't touching that. Well, let's pretend my name is, let's pretend my last name is Sam

and my first name is Uncle. So I'm asking you to garnish a small percentage of a fine this fee and whatever she gets monthly and just send it to me. If that's okay. That's the thing they check in for lots of different results. I ain't messing with rail money like that.

What rail say? A LLC. Rail, come on, Cam, what'd you say, rail? I saw him, I said, that thing that check ain't going to Sharerazada. You tell me where it's going to, I said, a LLC. Rail is a LLC. So in other words, rail is a business.

So rail will get all of the money. Rail will then be responsible for the taxes on said money. You know, I know how to get around taxes and all that. That's between you and rail, how y'all get around them. That ain't got nothing to do with my company. I have nothing to have them lock my issue up. Oh, okay. If it were you.

Hell nah. I have nothing to have them take my lock my issue if it were you. Hell nah. That's between that's between you and real. But we are excited about having the humble baddies podcast up under the Shae Shae Media umbrella. We're very excited about her team. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Time out. Time out. Now. If you're a baddie, you can't be humble. So we might have to, we might have to change the name.

No, they saying they baddies, but they humble. They don't be out there, you know, talking about, yeah, I'm a bad B and all that other stuff. Y'all know it. Y'all see the way we walk. Y'all see the way we carry ourselves. Y'all know what it is. This one here, like the way she, the way she talked to me? You know at

some time I don't think God would like that. I don't know. Especially now. Especially now because it look different. You know she see me and she view me in a different lens right now so she got the mouth of Satan sometimes. Look you understand what you dealing with. So, you know, she she she got the mouth of saying sometime. Um you look you understand what you're dealing with. Look when you deal with a stepper, when you know that there are other that that she's a looker. Yeah. That no matter where you go, whether she's with you or she's alone. Right. People are gonna look. Men and women. You accept that. Hold on. And you wouldn't want her if they weren't looking. Right.

I'm I'm a stepper two. What you doing? Exactly. Hold on now. Let's not forget. Let's not, man, don't make me come up at this shirt, man. Hey, Ocho, but when they in a high, in the penthouse, if it costs, the amenities gotta be great, right? You got marble, you got hardwood.

Okay. Yeah. If you a penthouse, your accessory piece gotta be up the park. Hey, you know what they say? What they say? You know what they say? They can tell you how much money a man got based on what he got on his hip.

For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What? On his hip. On his hip. Hey, that's a following from you here. Yeah. Yeah. What? On his hip. On his hip, on his hip. Yeah, yeah, on the bottom of his hip.

See, you see what I'm talking about? What'd he say? I'm telling her, what I just said, I'm a little afraid, you know, you can tell how much money dude got based on who we got on your, you know, who you got on your hip. She's talking about, ain't nothing but bones on that hip. Ah!

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Alexis, yeah, my dog. Alexis and Ash, congratulations. You know, I could be, let me be a guest. Let me be a guest, because I got something to get off my chest. God! No, Banny. All right, Ocho, let's get into the game. But again, congratulations, Humble Batty.

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The Rams now will travel to Philadelphia on Sunday in the divisional round of the playoffs. The Rams tied an NFL postseason record with nine sacks and they were coming tonight and they could swim. They, Neville Gallimore. Is that Neville Gallimore to play with Dallas? Wow, he didn't do that with Dallas. He had one and a half sack. B Young had one and a half sack. Hawk had a half a sack.

Witherspoon had a sack. Durant had a sack. D. Johnson had a sack. Fisk had a sack, Witherspoon had a sack, Durant had a sack, D. Johnson had a sack, Fisk had a sack. Didn't Burr have one too? Oh, Jeff, I guess they took his sack. But they were all over tonight. They were really all over.

Sam Donnell, he didn't have an opportunity. And then he fumbled, gave up a scooper and score. And that was really it. But this defense, look, we know the Rams can pressure the quarterbacks, but we didn't see this, not this. Matter of fact, yeah, what we saw for the Rams tonight, oh, I'm gonna be, listen, the goddamn front four,

the two rookies on the outsides, phenomenal. But I'm telling you, on the inside, yeah, phenomenal players. Now, when it came from a defense standpoint, rookies on the outsides. Phenomenal. But I'm told on the inside, yeah. Phenomenal players. Now, when it came from a deep in the standpoint, I gave the ads to the goddamn the Vikings. So I can't be a pressure team. Yes. Cause he's a pressure team. And most of the time, 98% of the time, they get to the quarterback making uncomfortable as far as his decision making

and rushing throws. So that's what I thought I'm going to see tonight. Oh, but I'm looking at the game like what in the world is going on? And just like you always say, no matter how you play in the post season, I mean, you might know how to play, no matter how you play in the regular season, when you get to the post season, it's one game.

One game. It doesn't matter if you got 14 wins, if you got eight wins, you got nine wins. In just one game. And what team is gonna show up tonight? And the Rams, show them tonight. the Rams showed up tonight that got them Puka Nakula boy Hey They got guy Puka Higbee made some big-time catcher Cooper Cup all ahead Cooper Cup had one target

It was a big-time catcher 29 yarder. Yeah, obviously Kyron Williams had a receiving touchdown. He ran really really hard Look the Rams struggling if you go back and look, I think they started the season one and four. Yeah, they were bad. And then they would train everybody. Yeah, they were. And then all of a sudden they got hot and they did not. And they did not look back. Stafford started playing better, but it was that defense.

The defense started generating pressure, taking the ball away, creating turnovers, putting their offense on short fields, and the guys started capitalizing. But Ochoa, they play like this here? I don't know if 22 points is gonna get it done for Philly. They're gonna have to play better than what they played against Green Bay. I said that yesterday.

I said that yesterday. I had people in the chat or tweet me today who you say not going to be able to score or beat Philly not scoring. You need to be able to put up numbers. You need to be able to put up because when you come in there next week, you're going to have to get Devontae Smith involved. You're going to have to get AJ Brown involved because you have a high powered offense was with, um, I'm talking about, I'm getting ready to say Sam Donnell, what, what Matt Stafford, who will, who will cup, Cuyman Williams, the tight ends, everybody involved in that offense. The Eagles got the mass, that energy, they get the mass of that energy and get contributions from everybody. Um, Oh Joe, they're going to have, they're going to have energy and get contributions from everybody.

Oh Joe, they're going to have they're going to have. To run the football to slow that pass rush down because see tonight they really couldn't get Minnesota really couldn't generate a rush. Yeah, so they threw caution to the wind and no once you see blood in the water this sharks. Yeah, they go turn it's going to turn into a frenzy. You see a lot of time that it now they got them a couple of times. They brought the double edge. Justin Jefferson went in motion

and they knew like when Jefferson goes in motion, he never looks hot. They don't run hot to that side. So what we gonna do, we gonna bring both of them off that side and neither one of them look back. We were always taught, Ocho, if you come in motion, just take a glance back.

If nobody runs with you, why you not moving? Why y'all didn't bump out? Something bump Ocho, I don't like this. Cause normally when somebody come in motion, if a guy's already over the outside guy, he's gonna bump to the outside. Well, if he don't come, my until he coming,

ain't no way, ain't no way he gonna stay there and leave me by myself. Yeah, and the funny thing about it, especially with something like that, I would think and I would hope, well, obviously they don't, you would have hot rousers built in. You should have hot rousers built in no matter what.

And obviously they didn't, DV coming right off the edge and no one would do that. Justin Jefferson, he just running down the field and it's not, it's not his fault. And then one of the interceptions, one of the interceptions, I just want to talk, receive a talk real quick. Just, just risk real quick on Addison. I can't remember number 14 name from the Rams. Yes. Out there, out there bunch slick. I mean, out there bunch look with the condensed split where Addison had the out route. I wish if, when understanding, if he can hold that inside shoulder just a

little bit longer and take them two yards just to get the DB to open up, just if you can get an open up, even if the throw is inside, it gives you a chance to adjust to it and make the catch where the DB still has a transition and flip just to make a play on the ball. But when you just, when you just roll out of it and he not opened up yet, all you got to do is just come on right down to the ball if it's a bad throw. Yeah, hold on, Ocho. I know it is.

Hold on. Kobe Durant, that's the name, 14 for the Rams. Kobe Durant. Yeah, it was a good play by Kobe. Most sack yards lost, most sack yardage lost in a playoff game in NFL history. Sam Darnham has the record now. 82 total yards on nine sacks. The record was in January, on December 31st in 1967. Oh, was that the ice bowl? That might have been the ice bowl. The Cowboys sack Bart Starr for a total of 76 yards. That's the coldest, I think that might be the coldest game. That was the ice bowl. 12 31 1967. Right. The Cowboys sack, they lost. 1231, 1967, right? The Cowboys sack, they lost.

Most sag yardage lost in a playoff game in NFL history. Sam Donnell now holds that record with 82 yardage, sag yards lost. Bart Starr had the record in the ice bowl with the Cowboys sacked him for 76 yards. But the difference is the Packers won. Yeah. If that was the last, that was the last NFL championship, huh? Or was that, I don't think they would call it the Super Bowl then. I think that was the NFL championship.

I'm almost certain. Damn. Cause next year it was next year. It was the Super Bowl started next year in 68. You know, I was hoping I was excited, man. I thought it would have been a much more competitive game. I really thought it was. And I listen when I was on Inside the NFL, and we talked about who I thought was going

on ultra predicto I only picked the Vikings simply because of the defense and what Brian Flores was able to do throughout the entirety of the season Matthew Stafford in the offense they got the ball out so fast even if you did blitz end and even matter right you're gonna get there the ball was coming out so fast but you they run up but if you look at the Rams offense, a lot of that, that's why they're able to beat the blitz a lot because they got a lot of bubble screens. They got a lot of jailbreak screens. They run a lot of shallow crosses.

They got a lot of built-in sight adjusts. So it's hard to trap them. Now, occasionally you can get them, but a lot of that is built in. Cooper Cuppers right there, Puka does a great job of getting a head around. And you know, Sean McVeigh is really, really creative. He does a great job of understanding like, okay,

in this down and distance, a lot of the time, they like to bring a blitz. So if they bringing a blitz, that means they're man on the other side. So what we need to do is get the ball into our guy's hand, Cooper Kupp, Puka Nakua, and now we get two blockers, or we get a blocker out there in front. He break the tackle, now we get two blockers or we get a blocker out there in front. He break the tackle.

Now that's a big, that's a big game. And they've done a great job of that. For the since Sean McVay has been there. And the thing that was Matt Stafford, the way he has ability to change arm angles, Ocho. He can go overhand and he can slide, he can side arm it. But I don't know if that was a pass when that scoop is going. Yeah, that was that was supposed to be a fumble But the foot they know the thing that saved Matt Stafford on that plane

Where if some people were still questioning is the fact that Pukin the cool was right there. Yes He was he was literally right there. Yes. Yes. And that definitely, I think you're absolutely right. I think that did save him because had it not, maybe they would have called intentional grounder, but because the guy scooped and scored, that would have been a touchdown. And I think that changed the completion of the game because now all of a sudden, Ocho, that would have tied the game up,

if I'm not mistaken. That would have tied the ball game up. Right. And so, yeah, the turnovers are huge in this situation. And what do you have? Sal McDonald had one pick, one touchdown. Nine sacks for 82 yards. Matthew Stafford got two for seven yards. 19 to 27, two touchdown.

And Matthew Stafford had a couple of drops. Yeah. Tight end dropped one. But Matthew Stafford had a couple of drops. Yeah. Tight end drop one, but Addison dropped two big ones though. And it's hard to hold on to that ball when you that half in the air, you hit the ground unless you got a real firm hold on it. Right. That body jars and that ball is going to pop out. So, but look, Minnesota had a great season. But tonight, the Rams were the better team. They outplayed them from top to bottom. And hold on, the Rams made a bonehead play on special team. They ran into the punter, gave, gave, uh, uh, who did they give the, uh, the Vikes

another opportunity, but that defense tonight, they look good. That's a good performance. How you going to see. Okay. How do you see it playing out against the Eagles and Rams? How do you see it? You're going to have to run the football to slow that pass rush down. That's the only thing that can stop the pass was because it got to a point

where they couldn't run the football. And so there was no there was no disguise. There was no foul of them running the football. And even when they did run it, said, you know we'll give y'all a little three or four yards we don't believe y'all can hurt us with the run but we believe those receivers hawkinson jefferson adison nailer we believe that's where you could hurt us at so what we're going to do we're going to cut the head off the snake right and then we're going to let the body just and you know just middle around and they can can't, I mean, I've got,

I'm trying to think, Ocho, you probably gotta go back. Tennessee did a number on you guys, but Burrow was able to pull it out. You remember when y'all guys went on the road to Tennessee? They sacked him nine times. But as far as like a dominating performance, you gotta go back to that. Maybe what the Broncos did to Cam in the Super Bowl.

This is what that looked like, Ocho. Yeah, they was all over. The way, I mean, cause Cam really didn't have the time to me, Bomb was on him. D-Ware was on him. Wolf, I forget the other, Malik Jackson. That was just four man pressure. Yeah.

And a lot of this was just four man pressure. Yeah, they brought a couple of cat blitzes, brought the edge, brought the slot blitz a lot of this was now, a lot of this was just four man pressure. Yeah, they brought a couple of cap blitzes, brought the edge, brought the slot blitz a couple of times to catch him off guard, and they caught him. But really, that was verse, that was young, and that was turning. And they got home. Never Gallowmore had a game, had a game.

Maybe played himself into a big time contract. But these guys, that defense was coming. And I was like, damn, when did they slip Aaron Donald back out there? I'm like, that defense looked like they had Aaron Donald and they had Bond and they had Leonard Floyd. When they went to the Super Bowl, that year on that run to the Super Bowl, late in the season and in the playoffs,

that's what that defense looked like tonight. They got out to Minnesota. They knew the passing game was what Minnesota could rely on to beat them. And they took that away. And this thing was. It was over. I mean, oh, Joe, when this thing got what it was 20, it was 24 to three at the half. You're like, y'all not coming back.

It was over there. It was over there. So that point. Yes, it absolutely was. But the Rams move on. They face the Eagles on Sunday. Yeah. Oh yeah. The Washington commanders played Detroit on Saturday. Okay, Ocho. Now it's time to welcome in Baltimore Ravens receiver. He got the party started Saturday night early. He called the touchdown the first touchdown from Lamar Jackson, Rashad Bateman. Rashad, how's it going, bro? Man, thanks for joining. We're doing great.

Rashad, look, you guys played unbelievable on Saturday. You guys dominated the ball game. You got off to an early start. The first drive, you go down, score touchdown. unbelievable on Saturday. You guys dominated the ball game. You got off to an early start, the first drive, you go down, score, touchdown. But what was the, what was, what, what, this, this team, this offense, this team, it looks different, this playoff compared to last year. Is there a difference? What have you noticed different? Is the practice is different? Are you guys meeting different? Did Coach Harbaugh change anything?

Because you guys had a look in your eye that like, look, yeah, we're excited about this one, but we got something else in mind. Yeah, man, I would definitely say the team is on a, you know, agenda right now. Lamar, Derrick, you know, Lina is in the right direction, but nah, ain't nothing different. I would definitely say, you know, players is locked in right now, man.

Uh, right. Getting going crazy, man. Everything getting so, you know, man, we just kind of, you know, man, keep doing what we're doing. Yeah, I like it. Look, Sean, what's up, man? This is Ocho, man. Huge fan, man.

Listen, speak to our audience, man, and myself also, and, and, and let us, and, and Unc know why you believe Lamar Jackson is the MVP. I mean at this point man I only know we're going off uh or no more. I don't know if we're going off stats, film or what man but you know in my eyes I mean everything speaks for itself. I mean Duke or why they make plays you know weekend and weekend and week out, and not just, you know, regular plays, you know, amazing plays. I mean, the stats are there. I mean, you turn the film, he jump out. He ain't even just about the numbers, you know,

at this point, it's just, you know what I'm saying? You can't deny that Lamar Jackson is on the field no matter who won the team. So I mean, I ain't the judge, but hey, you know what I'm saying, I definitely think it's, you know, MV3 year. I ain't the judge, but hey, you know what I'm saying? I definitely think it's, you know, MVP three year. Bay, when you guys found out, like, the Baltimore Ravens have signed Derek Henry

to a two year deal, knowing, watching him from afar, I don't know if you were on that team the first year that they played you guys in the playoffs, they came in there on the divisional round. I don't think you was there, I think you came the next year. Yeah, later. But when you watched him, obviously you watched him on film before.

What is it about him? How is he able to do that? It seems like he gets stronger as the game goes on. And that's when those big runs start to take place late in the third quarter, fourth quarter. I mean, seeing a guy like that, you know, at this level, you know, every day, you know, I mean, you see why, you know, he the player he is. Do eat healthy. Do, you know what I'm saying, practice hard. You know what I'm saying, hard. First one in, last one leave. I mean, he do all

the things you would, you know, think that a rookie would do. You know what I'm saying? He a, you know what I'm saying, veteran, you know, Hall of Famous. So there's no question to why, you know, we haven't success, you know, this late in the league. So, I mean. You know, I guess I know age, you know, just running that thing right now. Cabral, Cabral told that beer right now. He told me.

Zay, excuse me, I mean, you guys go get Zay Flowers back this week. Now, you guys probably knew early in the week that he wasn't going to be there. That meant you and other guys were going to have to step up. Mark Andrews, likely. You guys were going to have to step up and carry the low, Aguilar. So now that there's a possibility that he's going to return this week, what does he bring? What addition does he bring now to the table when you go into Buffalo?

I mean, they spread the field out. I mean, this year, I think that's the biggest difference for us. It's been able to spread the ball out, you know, in all different areas. We've got a lot of playmakers over the field, you know, as we see, you know, anybody can have a good game for Lamar, Derrick, Mark, Zay, myself, you know, it just depends on how the game going. You know, back in Zayback, you know, would definitely be big for us, you know, if that happened. But, you know, we just go see how that plays out right now. Listen, most of the time, you know, during this time of year, in the postseason towards the end of the season, most players are banged up.

Nobody's really truly 100 percent. And you dealt with some tough injuries early in your career. Do you feel now you've turned a corner and what helped you cope with extensive rehab that gives you to the point where you are now? Yeah, man, you go live. That was a tough time. It was a tough time right there, man. But I definitely say that I crossed the hump. Um, last year was my first time, you know, playing a four season healthy. Um, so this is my, you is my second year playing healthy, you know, finally been involved in the offense. But man, to get over that, man, that just took God and mental strength, because that was a time where I thought it was all over.

But you know, the end of the day, because it's an NFL, man, it's a draft year. Yeah. These people trying to play somebody every year. So, hey, man, your time, your time is ticking. So, just being able to know how to mindset, dog mentality, bro, just keep going. You know what I'm saying? Know who I am. You know what I'm saying? I know I'll be open.

I know I can get open. I know I can make plays. So, man, just being able to believe in myself and continue to go out and do that. Yeah, well, most definitely also, I want to extend my services while I'm here. Now we talk about, you know, your time taking and being available. I can extend your playing career by 10, 12 years as a nutritionist.

Now, if you want to hire me, I can help you out with that part. I'm not sure if you have nutritionist. I don't want to step on nobody told. But we could talk about that later off camera and do a little bit. I don't charge them but $20 a week. So you add that $20 a week for six months, that really ain't nothing. That's a drop in the bag.

What, McDonald's paying you? Yeah. I figured, I figured. I figured so. Hey, talk to us about like, when you run around, obviously you expect the ball one, two, three, ball might come out. One, two, three, four, five ball might come out, but you have to stay alive.

That's Lamar Jackson about there and he can extend the play three seconds to five seconds to eight seconds to 10 seconds. And on that first touchdown run, I'm excuse me, first touchdown pass. That is exactly what happened. He was able to extend, extend, extend. You start one way and then come back. Tell us like, what is your thought process when you lead the huddle?

Okay, they call the play, ready, break. And you lead the huddle. What's going through your mind? Better be in the state. You better be in the state, brother. You better be in the state, man. That's why it's important. It's important to be on the field

and be able to get those reps in with Lamar Mann because he the type of quarterback, man, you gotta take practice to take rhythm. Stay alive. Stay alive to learn how to play like that because it ain't easy, bruh. It ain't easy, man. A lot of people can't even relate to that type of ball.

So, I mean, it's tough. Do you guys practice that? Cause sometimes like a, like a, a, a, a scramble drill. Do you guys, do you guys like, do they allow him to keep the ball? Cause a lot of times we didn't, we didn't do that. I mean, after like certain things, you know,

that coach would just blow the whistle, but you really can't blow the whistle because it's so hard to get his ass on the ground. And so you really, really have to stay alive for at least five seconds. Yeah. I mean, maybe coach Harbaugh don't even blow the whistle till the whistle get to like seven to 10 seconds because you gotta stay alive

because they're not getting him down within the first three seconds. That ain't happening. Yeah, I would definitely say when we practicing, Harbaugh definitely let the play go about 10 seconds longer than a normal Coach Wood because that's about how long like hell can a the play.

Right. Yeah. Listen, I got a good question. This is a good one. And listen, I am an enthusiast for great defensive back play, you know, and you've been in your short career so far, who do you think the best DB is in the league and who's the best DB that you've faced to date so far? So, uh, Pat Surtain.

You're probably talking to me about that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Have you had, have you had an opportunity to go against Derek Singly yet? What'd you think about Derek Singly? He nice.

He nice for sure. But I definitely take Pat open. Okay. Okay. I like that fluid, man. He just like, he glide. He just so effluent. I mean, he just definitely take Pat open hand. Okay. Okay, I like, I like that. Pat fluid man, he just like, he glide, he just so effluent, I mean, he just in and out of them breaks, I mean, the way he can close on the ball.

Yeah. And he's long, he got long ass arms. Yeah, Pat tall and Pat fast, he need to be that size. He bigger than you think, he what, he like 6'2", 6'3". At least 6'3", he less than at least 6'3", for sure. Yeah, Pat tall, and he can move to be a bit. Yeah.

Wait, what was your, go ahead, Ocho. Hold on, hold on, before you go, I need you to do me a favor and pass Marlon Humphrey and Nate Wiggins. I need to pass them a message for you. Matter of fact, text them, you get a chance. What's up? And tell them that they can't stop me. They couldn't cover me and they need to be thanking God I'm not playing in this era. Oh, no, I'll send a message, I'm gonna see what they say.

All right, Bet. Bet. Bet, what was your welcome to the NFL moment? My rookie year, roll coin, you know my team, nah, but we went to Chicago, bro, knocked my hand but I ain't never, I ain't never had, I ain't never had that before. I am my whole career, but for what,

I ain't never had my hand knocked up. a whole career before I never had my hammer. I said, yeah, the boy get paid. The boy get paid. I said, I'm tight. No. Did he catch you slipping? Yeah, he caught me slipping. Color screen, color screen, cut back.

Yeah, helmet came off. Yeah, that's what people don't realize. When you run that jailbreak screen, the bubble screen or whatever you guys call it, is that inside that hurt? Yeah. Because the delimit and the linebacker, they coming from in here. That's what you wanted to do. Turn back into this headache. Yeah, don't go back in there. No, no, no. That's Ocho. He seen what happened now. You know what go on now? No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I lived in the trenches though. I lived in the trenches. You got to

think. No, he didn't. You got to think. You got to think. He might have been born in the trenches, but he ain't living in the trenches. Not in the NFL. Don I lived in the trenches, you gotta think. No he didn't. You gotta think, I did, huh? You gotta think, baby. He might have been born in the trenches, but he ain't living no trenches, not in the inner fields, don't let it fool you, baby. He was down there, I don't know if he was successful though. Yeah, man, listen, you gotta think. I was 6'4", 230 when I was playing, so you know, it was nothing to me be dying, yo.

That's crazy, bro. Yeah, it is. Yeah. The McDonald's had the boy at 230, they? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Baby, he ain't been over 200 a day in his life. He like what 85 So now look this is a rematch yeah Buffalo they came in a week for you guys did a job on them Derek Henry ran Wow, that was like, okay, they put Derek Henry in the I formation They tossed it to him. They handed to himrick Henry ran wild. That was like okay they put Derrick Henry in the I-formation they tossed it to him they handed to him and he ran wild. What do

you guys expect? Buffalo look this is the rematch the two MVP front-running candidates Lamar Jackson Josh Allen but this time it's in their building. I mean I definitely say you know like any other person, you got to start the run game with anybody. Man, it's to the point, I don't know how to like how to defend it. You know what I'm saying? You got to account for all the players. You got to defend, you know what I'm saying? All links to the field, you know, when you play us. So I would just say, man, you got to be prepared for all.

I mean, we don't show that we're capable of being on the run game, you know, pass game, screen game, you know, we healthy, you know, we got guys back on the field. So, you know, man, preparation, practice, gotta go out and, you know, execute. It's always game plan, execution. Last year, Bates, the season did not end the way you wanted it to. You got the MVP front runner, you got an almost 2000 yard rusher in your back to. You got the MVP front runner, you got an almost 2,000 yard rush in your backfield, you got the first time a Ravens drafter receiver has gone to the Pro Bowl.

You guys are low, you guys had the most, I think you guys had the most Pro Bowlers, I think you had nine Pro Bowlers. You got a lot of all-Pro guys over there. If you guys don't get to and win the Super Bowl, is this season of disappointment in your eyes? I mean, to us, man, how we view it, I mean, if we don't get to and win the Super Bowl, is this either a disappointment in your eyes? I mean, to us, man, how we view it, I mean, if we don't do that, I feel like that's every year.

You know what I'm saying? We hold ourselves to the standard. That's the standard that's set, you know what I'm saying? It's organization, you know what I'm saying? Let's go win. Super Bowls won't take nothing less. You know what I'm saying? That's what we struggle for always.

So that's the end goal. The goal is to make it there. And then when we don't then of course, you know what I'm saying, we feel that we feel. We got all the tools, we got everything we need, you know what I'm saying, to be successful. Talk about them, so we just gotta go out and do it now. Yeah. Yeah, that's what, hold on, hold on.

Come on, man. Don't, come on, don't do that, man. Don't do that. Hey, you know, you know the one rain, the one rain, you know, we flop. Yeah. We, don't listen to that. you know, you know, you know, I don't even count. He just happened to work out, bro. Hey, hey, they don't, hey, hey, hey,

do they happen to just get these out? No, you gotta work for that one. You gotta work for that one. Hey, Ocho, why you be, Ocho, you better check somebody. If you a Raven fan and y'all know anything about that 2000 Ravens, I did my part on the offense. Okay. Big play shade showed up. I understand you, but see that trophy right there?

That trophy you carrying? Yeah. That trophy is because of the Raven 2000 defense. Whoa, whoa. We did score some points. You got to score, yeah. They only score with nine points a game on offense. Hey, you know what I tell you.

Hey, Ocho, look at that right there, Ocho. Come on, man, don't do that, man. Matter of fact. No, you what? I'm going to tell you, I'm. Come on, man, don't do that, man. Matter of fact, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to talk to baby. I'm going to tell him how the game is going to go. I'm going to tell him how the game is going to go, right? They're going to start, they're going to stack eight, nine in the box, right? You're going to have about 120, 130 and two TDs.

He's speaking into his essence. Go ahead. I'm telling you, I'm manifesting it. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not Cleo and I'm a, I'm a bangle at heart, but I'm telling you I'm manifesting it. I'm not I'm not I'm not Cleo and I'm a I'm a bangle I'm telling you how the game gonna go. I already know The bangles we do bad things to the bangles bait don't even worry about the bay. I don't even know why he brought them We talking about playoff I thought it was he was I was very respectful. I thought that was what he was talking

about. I was very respectful. What you mean you respect but I was I was telling Bateman. I'm telling Bateman how the game going to go. You talk about the Bengals. Oh, I forgot. I'm not going to talk about teams that didn't make the playoffs. You

know, me and we talk about teams that made the playoffs. That's what we talk about. You know, we talk about, you know, trying to make a Super Bowl run. What happened to your Broncos yesterday? Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. yesterday. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. That's

crazy. Oh, he a raving today. I had two teams in the playoffs. No, you didn't know you you have one team. You're a hater. That's crazy. You you a hater. Hey, we appreciate that man. Hold on. So, when you pick the winner of the playoff

who you on who y'all got winning right now? Oh, I, listen, I'm Lamar all day. I'm Lamar all day. Okay, okay, I'll just make it simple. All day, all day. All right. Yo, he had Josh Allen for the MVP. I had Lamar. What, we gonna lie like that?

We gonna lie on, we gonna lie on that? I had Lamar. That's crazy. Everybody say it was over with. Hey, babe, come on now, this me now. Come on now. If that's true, that's wild, bro. Hey, this me now, this me now.

I know, I know, I know, I ain't no hater. Okay, come on, don't do that, cause you got the man believing I really. I'm serious. Well you kinda, I mean you wasn't, like even when everybody's saying it was over, that Josh Allen had the MVP sold up, I say, look, I don't know if y'all see what that guy

in Baltimore doing, but it's hard. I mean, how you gonna overlook, I said, he's gonna be somewhere in the low 40s. He could have less than five interception and there's an outside chance he has a thousand yard rushing. So what we gonna do about that in a season that we've never seen before and you might not ever see it again.

So what we judging up from? Look, I said it before, what he's doing, only one other quarterback has ever done it. And that's Aaron Rodgers, when he goes 40 in less than five interceptions. And every time he did it, he won the MVP. Now you throw 900 rush yards on top of it?

What are we talking about here? That's different. And the fourth highest passer rating in NFL history. He is the MVP. That's not to take away from anybody else, bait. Josh Allen had a phenomenal season. So did Saquon. But when we look at this, the value that he gave that team,

it just... Yeah. Listen, the voters can't make any excuses. They can't say he had Derek Henry. They can't use they can't move the goalposts. No, they are known to move the goalposts based on who it is. At this point, there's really nothing you can say there's really nothing you can do to take that MVP away from Lamar Jackson in the type of season he had regards to who he's had at his disposal with it. Um, and as the supporting cast, it just, it doesn't matter because what he did is unbelievable. Yeah, for sure. I'm glad we all know.

Great. We will appreciate you, man. Thanks for taking time joining us. Like nightcap. We really appreciate that. Wish you the best of luck. Continue success. You know, we're going that. Wish you the best of luck. Continue success. You know we're gonna be watching you, but good luck on Sunday, and hopefully we'll have another conversation down the road. Man, for sure. I appreciate y'all having me on.

Y'all be safe. Yeah, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Until they, it's whatever, or Humphrey, whatever they wanna do. He's still alive. I bet, I'm gonna tell both of them. Bet. I bet. Appreciate that, bait. All right, see y'all. John's still alive. I bet. I'm a tough old foe. Bet. I bet.

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Richard Bateman first round draft pick played really well in the apps. He played well all year. Obviously Zay is the number one, but they came on and make big plays when given the opportunity and that's what you have to do on Joe. Hey, Zay was out. So I got to step up and do my part, huh? Step up. Yeah. And that's what you have to do.

And that's what I like, likely made a name for himself in the absence of Mark Andrews. Andrews, yeah. Likely stepped up. And now they run a lot of double tight end set. And it's hard because a lot of times when teams run double tight end set,

you think they're gonna block. Well, they get both of those guys out in pass coverage, you know, in passing situation. But like he said, it's not easy to play. I mean, Lamar is great, but you just got to stay alive, Ocho. You got to stay alive because there is no dead play. It's not like, oh man, they done got Lamar. And they say, you know, you hear the crowd standing up. You're like, what they standing up for?

I thought he got sacked. Nah, bro, you gotta get on your horses. Either you go straight across, you come back, or you take the top off. Cause we had scramble drills, you know, oh, we close it to him. We are the closest guy, come down the hill. Then you have the guy coming over

and then you got a guy going deep. But it was, it's great to see, it's gonna be a great ball game, Ocho. I'm anxious to see how this thing turns out. The two MVP front runners playing the quarterback position. Both teams got a running game. James Cook for the Bills Lamar, excuse me, Derek Henry for the Ravens. Wide receivers. Maybe you get Zay Flyers back, but if you don't, you got two tight ends. Likely and Andrews going up against Kincaid and Knox, wire receivers, you got Shakira and Coop

going up against Bateman, Aguilar. So we get, hey, it's a great matchup. Offensive lines are very, very good. They got a Pro Bowl, the Ravens got a Pro Bowl center. What you call them got a Pro Bowl left tackle so that thing will be very very and the Ravers right tackle has done an outstanding job TJ why didn't register a stat and oh the previous week he dealt with Miles Garrett So Marge like I feel pretty good. I got Ronnie Staley on one side.

I got a Pro Bowl center, a Pro Bowl and an All-Pro Center in the middle. And then I got a right tackle. I think he's a rookie that's playing out of his mind. Yeah. So it's going to be a very good game. Ocho, the Cowboys part ways with Mike McCarthy. That's some bullshit.

Ocho, who the? That's some bullshit, bro. You know that. This raps sounds off against the Cowboys' coaching drama. This is what Dez tweeted. Dan Quinn turned a once struggling franchise into a playoff contender and won his first playoff game until Dallas focused on winning instead of politics.

Cowboys fans should not expect success soon. I'm telling you this straight forwardly, just as I always do. Ocho? Yeah. Who's gonna be the Cowboys next coaching victim? I don't know who the victim is gonna be. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure, but I just don't like the way Jerry operates. I don't like the way he operates. There was an opportunity for Mike McCarthy to be able to interview for the Chicago bear job. You know, Jerry blocked that. He said, no, I'm thinking, well, if you're telling me no, Mike McCarthy should be upset. If you're telling me, no, I can't go interview for the job. I'm thinking you're going to retain me and discuss a longterm contract at some point.

What was the point of even doing that? Just to show that you're in control, just to show your power? That's what it was. You knew he was, he knew he wasn't bringing Martin McCarthy back, but no, I'm not gonna let you interview with, I'm not gonna let you interview with the Bears on your timeline, it's gonna be on my timeline. What, what?

What's the point? What's the point? Control. We know you're in control. We know you're the owner. We know that. The season eight isn't even in, and you're still making headlines based on your decision making. That's at making absolutely no sense. Let the man go.

You know, you didn't want them to begin with because if you wanted them, you would have paid him before the season even started or paid him in season instead of, instead of allowing him to finish out his contract. Like, what would it be doing? But here's the thing. Remember when they lost, they lost a couple of times in the first round, they thought they kept Dan Quinn. Dan Quinn really stayed because he thought he was gonna get the job.

Then after the fight, Jerry kept bull driving, said, man, let me go on out here and get me a job. You bull driving. And guess what? Bobby Wagner was available. Yeah. He ain't had no blindbacker like Bobby Wagner. Yeah. Big Wags, look at that.

Know that defense. Know Dan Quinn's defense. Now Kendrick's played well, but B. Wags is a different animal. Yeah. But see, Jerry is going to be Jerry. He going to hire a coach and then he going to tell you who to hire. Well, this is going to be your defensive coordinator. This is going to be your offensive coordinator. This is going to be your offensive coordinator. Go ahead. I have a question. Now I've seen reports, I tweeted out earlier today, you know, I'm just thinking, I just threw it out there. Like, you know, I ain't talked to Prime, you know,

I'm just thinking, well, let me see, Mike McCarthy's gone and I'm thinking about Prime, you know, obviously, you know, I'm not trying to disturb no trouble. And then as soon as I tweeted it three hours later, they go to report Jerry Jones, Greece, out to Deon Sanders about the opportunity. Deon saying he was intrigued, you know, but he loves what he has in Boulder as far as his team and his roster. And I just I just listen when an opportunity like that comes along, when an opportunity like that comes along,

do you let it pass you by? Do you let it pass you by? I know Dion said I would love to coach my sons I doubt probably I'm not sure where Dallas is picking but she's saying it's not gonna be there He's not gonna be there unless they do something Extravagant climb the letter climb the ladder and go get go get a quarterback. I doubt it You know that they have that I get no quarterback. You just paid that I'm just saying this. I'm just talking. I'm just speaking hypotheticals. But I'm saying for the opportunity to actually coach at the highest level

where you dominated, where you made your Hall of Fame career. I mean, do you really pass them up like that? What do you think? Mm hmm. Well, look, no, Ocho. Look, we know Jerry. Jerry is an authoritarian. Right.

It's Jerry way or no way. He feel, I heard Troy tonight said he don't believe the cowboy job is coveted. It's our profile, but it's not coveted. He says because coaches can't become who they are and what they can become because of Jerry, he says Dan Campbell is not going to be Dan Campbell in Dallas like he is in Detroit. Andy Reed would not be Andy Reed in the Dallas like he is in Kansas City.

That should tell that should tell. Think about it, Jerry. You continue to do things your way because you want the credit. Sometimes you don't realize how great things can be. If you don't care who gets the credit, the Jerry cares and therein lies his problem. He's always cared. That's why he fired Jimmy.

He won't ever admit it. It drove him crazy that everybody missed him, Jimmy. And he got no shine. So he fired a man back. Let us think, Chad, let that sink in for a second. Cause I don't think you guys realize what, what I'm about to say here. He fired Jimmy after back to back Superbowl and his oldest superstar was Michael Irvin at 28 years of age. His oldest superstar was 28 years of age. His oldest superstar was 28 years of age.

And he fired it. Now, first ballot Hall of Famer and Troy Aikman, first ballot Hall of Fame, all time leading rusher to Emmett Smith. Michael Webb got in on the second ballot. And they had that team together. They want another one. They missed that year.

They went and got prime and they want another one. But had they had Jimmy, that's when Jerry started. They were they won in spite of Jerry. That was the best. How good that 95 team was. They won in spite of Jerry. But had they kept Jimmy what you see the Patriots did, that's what Jimmy would have done. You think they could have ran it like that?

Think about what they had. Emmett Smith, Emmett came in with me. So Emmett left early. So 93 Emmett should have been 24. Right. Troy was 26. Mike was Right. Troy was 26. Mike was 20. Troy was 27. Mike was 28. Listen, remember what member was he said in color purple? Huh?

What? Somebody and somebody needs to do that to Jerry until you write by me. Everything you well, I forgot. We'll come back on you. Yeah, yeah. And that's what's happening. Nothing is going good for the Cowboys since that fire. Now you made you made it to the playoffs. You made it. But you always you always going home in the first round.

And still Jerry continues to continue to do he continues to do the same exact thing the same shenanigans the season not even they not even anything he's still making headlines for the wrong reasons. Yep um and the thing was is that that's how he said uh uh Troy I mean you know he was talking like Barry wanted to be everybody's friend Jimmy ain't want to be nobody friend. Jimmy ran that thing with an iron fist. The same way coach Biblich made any team that wins and win consistently, their head coach run that thing.

Dang. Fired him after back to back Super Bowls and they hadn't won a Super Bowl in 20 plus years and he wins back to back and Jerry fired him because Jerry wasn't getting shot. Nobody mentioned Jerry. I'm in the league so I know. Everybody talked about what Jimmy had done, what Jimmy had built because Jimmy knew the players. Jimmy was at the University of Miami. He recruited those guys. Yeah, he recruited the guys that was coming into the NFL. He tried to get them at the U.M. Right. So he knew how to do it.

Jimmy, Jimmy made that trade to get Herschel up out of there. Herschel was the one valuable piece they had. Jimmy say, hey, yeah, we can keep him and go five and 11. What does that give us? And Jerry fired him. But he's the firm for it. This is what Ari, Miro, Mirov. The Cowboys handling of negotiations and money is downright baffling.

They basically sat out free agency last year, dragged their feet on players extensions and created unnecessary drama with CD Lab and Dak Prescott by waiting until the 11th hour to get deals done. And it's just not them. It has a pattern with several players over the years. They made Mike McCarthy and his entire staff coach out their contracts, block McCarthy

from interviewing with the Bears last week, only to part ways anyway. In week 18, they even benched Cooper Rush to avoid playing him a $250,000 incentive for playing 55% of the staff on this year. He was at 52%. Completely avoidable chaos and not what you would expect from America's team. the damn. Hey Marcus Spears. Swaggoo's story is adding to Coach Ares. Hey uh we win. I promise. Bad swag. Swaggoo Jerry

ain't gonna let you do nothing. I mean Ocho. I'm not I'm not trying to hear the owner speak to me before the game or after the game because you're not there. See Jerry's all about show because what does Jerry do Ocho? This is how you know Jerry's about show. During practice he landed his helicopter on the field. That's crazy. It's all about show with Jerry. Jerry don't care about no winning. Jerry got Jerry got the fans but the fans are starting to see now. Man Jerry don't really care about no winning. I don't think the fans understand it, huh?

They do, they're starting to see it now. I mean, listen, I mean, it's been 20, 25, 26, 27 years. How you just now seeing it? Almost 30. And listen, and they're not going to, that Jerry's not going to change until it hits one place in your pockets. But until you stop showing up,

until you stop coming to the games, until you stop buying merch, nothing is going to change. And you know, when football seems to come around, oh, Jerry's world, that stadium is going to be filled up when they go to L.A. for training camp. Oh, it's going to be filled up. They're coming. They're going to keep coming regardless because they love the game of football. And Jerry knows that.

It's like, hey, here's what he is, Ochoa. Once you get to that age, Jerry's in his 80s. He ain't changing. Yeah. And ain't no sense. And, you know, hey, this is what Troy Eggman had to say. He said, I thought Mike McCarthy would be the head coach.

So it's a bit surprised for me today that is not going to be what went into those conversations, I'm not exactly sure it suggests there's not a real plan. As far as the company job, I don't know if that's accurate. I do think the Cowboys are obviously a high profile team and whoever is the head coach of that team

is certainly going to draw a lot of attention. But I think most football people that take over as a head coach want to do it on their terms. And that's hard to do in Dallas. What everybody has said, you take Dan Campbell, for instance, is Dan Campbell, Dan Campbell, if he's with the Cowboys, it's hard to imagine that he is. It's hard to imagine that a lot of these coaches might be.

I love the Dallas Cowboys. I played there for 12 years. I wished them well, but to say as a coveted job, I'm not sure I would necessarily agree with that. Sometime you get in your own way. Coach Prime told ESPN tonight, to hear from Jerry is truly delightful and it's intriguing. I love Jerry, I believe in Jerry.

After you hang up and process it, you think about it, it's intriguing. But I love Boulder, everything about our team, the coaches, our student body, and the community. I like it. It's just hard for me to see a scenario where you can be successful as long as Jerry's meddling. It's just hard for me to see it, Ocho.

I just believe the owner should be hands off. If you hire somebody, I can't hire somebody to do a job and then I'm over telling them how to do the job. Well, if that was the case, I could save me some money. Why don't you just coach the team? If you know so much about football, just coach the team. That's what Papa Bear Hallows did. Right.

He owned the team and coached it. Oh, that's hilarious. If he believes he knows as much as he says he does, or he tries to convince the people that he knows, coach it. Could you imagine Jerry as the head coach on the sideline in the suit? No, they don't let you do that.

You gotta wear NFL gear now. Dan Reeves, I mean, the old guard used to do that. Coach Reeves, Mike Dicker, they used to be on there with suit, you know, shirt and tie, coats, sweaters. NFL said, nah, we need you in this NFL issue gear. Which we can't sell them suits. We can sell these sweaters and these hoodies and these jackets.

We can't sell that what you wear. So you gotta come up out of that. And guess what? There used to be players, you could wear your own stuff on the sideline. They won't let you do that. Now you got to be an issue. Yeah. Yep. Yep. John Stewart is back at The Daily Show and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with the

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