Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Super Bowl is EXPENSIVE, Unc's 1 that got away, Patrick Mahomes distractions

Episode Date: February 5, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Chiefs being underdogs 3 playoff games in a row, Unc goes deep about his past breakups and discussed Patrick Mahomes Sr. being arrested for D...WI. 00:00 - Introduction05:30 - Are the Chief being disrespected?25:00 - Shannon Sharpe talks breakups44:00 - Patrick Mahomes Sr. arrested for DWI #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:54 Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, ladies and gentlemen welcome to another episode of nightcap i'm your favorite unc shannon sharp he's your favorite number 85 route runner extraordinaire bingos legend ringer famer three time three-time all-pro six-time pro bowler chadcho Cinco Johnson Mr. Liberty City himself y'all know what it is please please make sure y'all like make sure you hit that subscribe button Ocho we're 965,000 subs we're 35,000 away from that magic number we got to get on the ball Ocho Ocho we got to get on the ball because the goal is is to have it by Thursday before we go live. Right. So, I've been thinking to myself,
Starting point is 00:01:48 I said, I tweeted earlier today, or it might have been yesterday, who can I hit or who can I call? I had people in mind to give us a surge, to give us a push, the push we need to be at one million before the live show. Everybody told me, listen, at the rate y'all going, you don't need
Starting point is 00:02:04 to call nobody. You will get there by Thursday's live show. Everybody told me, listen, at the rate y'all going, you don't need to call nobody. You will get there by Thursday's live show. So, I kind of held off on it. We at, what we at? 965? 965. If we at 965 right now, with the way we're going, I'm not going to make a call. I'm
Starting point is 00:02:20 going to wait and see what happens and see if we get there at some point. But we hit Wednesday. When we hit Wednesday, I'm going to make that call. I'm going to make that call. Man, listen, bro. I need you to do me see what happens to see if we get there at some point. But we hit Wednesday. When we hit Wednesday, I would make that call. Make that call, man. Listen, bro, I need you to do me a solid. I'd never ask you for nothing. But just get us to a million sub because I need to understand what the fuss is about, about Unx Cognac. So I want to be able to taste alcohol for the first time ever in my life.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Yes, people in the chat. I don't. I've never had alcohol before. So that will be my first time ever in my life. Yes, people in the chat, I've never had alcohol before. So that will be my first time. So I'm hoping we hit a million so I can give my own honest take in Keith Lee fashion on what that
Starting point is 00:02:53 Keith Lee fashion on what that cognac tastes like or alcohol in general. All right. Please make sure y'all subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. You can get it through Club Shea Shea, but Nightcap has its own feed. Please make sure you subscribe through the Nightcap podcast
Starting point is 00:03:09 feed. We've also pinned Shea by LaPortia at the top of the chat. Hey, Super Bowl party is a week away. You got Valentine's Day, you got St. Patrick's Day, and I'm sure there's a birthday somewhere along in between those days and St. Patty's Day. Please go out and get yourself a bottle for you or that someone special
Starting point is 00:03:28 ladies. Go get your man, a bottle of shade by LaPorte. And he'll thank you. And you'll thank me later. So please make sure you go out and get a bottle of shade by LaPorte. Oh, Joe,
Starting point is 00:03:37 this week we were nominated for NAACP image award for the art sports and entertainment. Outstanding Podcast. Guys, please make sure you go for us. We really, really would like to win this because this obviously we've done a lot of hard work, but it'd be a testament to you. So please make sure you go out and cast your vote for Nightcap Unken Ocho for the Awards of Art, Sports and Entertainment Outstanding Podcast. Thank you so much. Thank you, NAACP, for nominating us.
Starting point is 00:04:07 It's greatly appreciated. We know the voting on the website is a little bit difficult and has a bunch of extra steps. So Jordan will be dropping a step-by-step tutorial video tomorrow. Lord, have mercy. I don't know. Man, I don't know how this is going to turn out. But tomorrow, Jordan will be dropping a step-by-step tutorial video.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Lord help us. Ain't no telling. He might be voting for the presidency. And that is still myself eight months away. Ain't no telling what you're going to do. Ocho, the Chiefs are the underdog for the third straight game. They are now a two-point underdogs, according to DraftKings Sportsbook. Ocho, are Mahomes and Andy Reid being disrespected?
Starting point is 00:04:54 Why do they continue to do this? Why do they continuously poke the bear? Why do they continuously poke the bear? I'm not really sure how they come up with the scenarios on why they're the underdogs. Is it the fact that there are so many pro bowlers, so many great players offensively, I mean, and defensively for the 49ers based on what the
Starting point is 00:05:13 Chiefs have been able to do in the postseason. Why? I think this is what maybe the second or third game they've been underdogs. They've been underdogs the entire play with the exception of the first game. They weren't underdogs against Miami, but they were underdogs against Buffalo, Baltimore, and now the 49ers. I'm not sure if someone has something against Andy Reid. I'm not sure if somebody has something against Patrick Mahomes and just the Chiefs in general.
Starting point is 00:05:39 I understand they played bad during the middle of the season. You know, from an offensive standpoint, a a statistical standpoint as far as the receivers go they led the nfl in drops as a core themselves off his line letting penalties yeah that that as well but to say that they are underdogs in betting against patrick mahomes is asinine and i think it's an angle that might have something to do with gambling and having people put more money on the 49ers to win, as opposed to people really believe in whoever came with this scenario that they're the underdogs. I think that might be the angle they're going to get people to lose money betting with the 49ers. Well, what happens is, Ojo, you notice is that they set the line, if I'm not mistaken, the original line was minus one. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And so in order for it to move to minus two, that means a lot of bets came in on the Chiefs because we got to open the line up and because we want people to bet on the 49ers also. So that's seemingly why they opened the line up. Okay. All right. That gives me a better understanding
Starting point is 00:06:44 because logically, a two-time Super Bowl champ, there's no way I'm betting against that. As good as Brock Purdy played last week, as good as that offense looked, coming back from the deficit they were able to come back from, but I still just... So with you explaining it to me like that, I knew it had to do something with numbers and money, you know, because I don't understand that part. Go back.
Starting point is 00:07:12 What was the original line? Because I see someone say one and a half, two and a half. It's one and a half. The original line was one and a half. So, it's moved to half a point. So, that means a lot of people have been laying money on the Chiefs. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:27 That makes sense. And that's one thing... A lot of people's betting money on the 49ers, they just dropped it. Right. They don't really want to get too heavy one-sided either way. Right, right, right. So basically what they're doing is they're lying to
Starting point is 00:07:43 the people like some damn politicians. Well, what happened? They started. Just to sway where the money need to go. Yeah, because what happened, it started at one and a half. Now it's at two. That means a lot of money for it to move. A lot of money has been coming in on Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:08:01 So we'll see how it plays out. Because at the end of the day Ocho this is a neutral site game right it's not like they're playing in the 49ers building it's not like they're playing in Arrowhead obviously um this is uh as legit a neutral site game as you're gonna get um I think both fan bases will be in full effect it's gonna be hard to tell who's who because both teams wear red. I have a problem. I got a question.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I got to stop you right there. When you say both teams' fans will be in full effect, have you seen the ticket prices for the Super Bowl? And when I think about it, I think the hard-earned blue-collar fans of these teams, the people that show up to every home game, the A game that they do have throughout the season. It's not them they are priced out they're priced out i think it's unfair obviously we understand what the end goal is and the bottom line goal is for the nfl especially an event of
Starting point is 00:08:54 this magnitude yeah it's about money it's always that's always been the end goal this is for the wealthy this is for the rich to come together and have some fun and enjoy the last game of the season. It's not for the true authentic fans that work hard in this goddamn economy to support their team eight weeks out of the season at home. They're priced out. They're priced out
Starting point is 00:09:18 based on the prices I saw. I got it and ain't no damn way in hell I'm paying $7,000, $8,000 for a goddamn ticket. What average ticket price now is $12,000. Because here's the thing, what the NFL saw, Ocho. I remember when we went to the Pro Bowl, if I'm not the Pro Bowl, the Super Bowl, I think the highest ticket was $1,000. But if you turn around, yes, $1,000.
Starting point is 00:09:42 But if you scalp the tickets, people was willing to pay you seven to eight thousand so the nfl said hold on y'all willing to pay seven eight thousand dollars we'll just go ahead and put the ticket at seven to eight thousand dollars since you want to pay that but what has happened is that you take all the all the the the the advertisers and sponsors that's where the tickets go oh you're going to tell me for a billion dollars, for two billion dollars, I can't get no tickets? Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Come on now, Ocho. It's crazy. Listen, this is, Super Bowl is a corporate event. Yes! Super Bowl is a corporate event and there needs to be some type of structure
Starting point is 00:10:18 or something done for the hardcore fans. The fans that put on the costumes, the fans that paint their faces, the fans that have on the costumes, the fans that paint their faces, the fans that have been at Arrowhead week in and week out when they played home, and the fans that have been
Starting point is 00:10:31 at goddamn Levi's Stadium week in and week out. They are priced out because in this goddamn economy, nobody can afford a goddamn ticket for $12,000. And then you got some people
Starting point is 00:10:41 that are going to get scammed. They're going to be sold fake tickets. No, they have to find some happy medium for the people that are part of the median households that have been going to games year in and year out. And all of a sudden, their team
Starting point is 00:10:58 makes it to the biggest game of them all. Now you're going to have people digging in their life savings. You're going to have people digging in their goddamn life savings. Watch it on TV. I mean, come on. I'm just kidding. The one thing that we're going to be on this podcast is honest.
Starting point is 00:11:13 When the tickets start, when you got tickets starting out at $6,000, what average fan is going to be able to pay $6,000? Okay, that's for the ticket. Where the hotels, you got a three-night minimum. Three nights. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:29 So even if you come in and say, I'm just going to come in for the game. What, are you going to sleep in your car? That's something that would be a choice of mine. Are you going to eat? They have fast food. They have fast food in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:11:45 What do you think the price of this is? You think you can get a normal price at the normal price that you would normally be if you was in Vegas? Listen, Vegas got Bahama Breeze if you want to go fancy. Now, that's dinner. All right, you want to bring it down a notch?
Starting point is 00:11:58 Vegas has In-N-Out. Vegas has Burger King. Vegas has McDonald's. They have El Pollo Loco. You don't have to go fancy. We talk about based on if you're on a structured income. On a budget.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Because you paid, yeah, on a budget and you paid a lot. Let's say you took some of your life savings. You want to go to Super Bowl. Sleep in your car. Eat at what I consider
Starting point is 00:12:18 some of the lower tier restaurants. I consider them high tier. Other people consider them low tier. I mean, that's what I would do. I don't have no problem sleeping in my car. I got to use the bathroom. I go to a 24-hour 7-Eleven, 24-hour IHOP. I ain't letting you drop no sticky loads in my bathroom
Starting point is 00:12:37 if you ain't buying no potato chips or no gas or no soda. No. Oh, they don't have a choice. They do have a choice. That's a private entity. You just can't go use the bathroom. Where you at? You think you have a park or a recreation center? Buy a stick of gum.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Buy a stick of gum. You got to buy something. Now, Ocho, when have you ever known people at home, when an event, Grammys, Emmys, Oscars, some type of event that's coming over, you see what happened when the gas prices, what they do with the gas prices. They jacked it up.
Starting point is 00:13:07 So they got an event coming to Vegas. Tell me what you think they're going to do with food prices. They're going to hack it up a little bit. A little bit. They can only do it so much. What you mean so much? You still want to attract not only business, but you still want to be able to make money. If you price yourself out,
Starting point is 00:13:23 listen, nobody will go to your establishment listen, nobody go to your establishment. They already coming, Ojo. Nobody will go to your establishment. They already coming. They already coming. We already know we're going to get an influx of a million, two million people.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Right. So listen, there's an influx of one million, two million people. You think those people won't find somewhere else to eat if your prices are outrageous and ridiculous?
Starting point is 00:13:39 What's the likelihood of the people that's coming and they got hotel rooms with a three-night minimum? What you say say the thing is they're going to stop by your establishment anyway? Hmm. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Hey, that's a good one. That's a good one. I mean, they got cabanas going for 100,000 to see 12 people. 100,000. A cabana where? At the clubs. At the clubs.
Starting point is 00:14:03 100,000. Quarter of a mil. And you see, and you wonder why, and you wonder why I've never partied in life. Because it makes no sense. What are you getting for a hundred thousand
Starting point is 00:14:10 that you can't get at home? Turning your radio real goddamn loud, invite all your friends over, boom, same concept, same energy, same vibe. But you paying a hundred or $250,000
Starting point is 00:14:21 or whatever it may be to go to do what? Just to show, look, I got money. Okay, that's cool. That's fine. It ain't how much you make, it's how much you keep. Now you're talking like me. I like where you're going. Now we have something else to address based
Starting point is 00:14:37 on that comment right there. Wait, hold on. I'm just saying, look, like I said, I believe that what the NFL saw is that, and what you see anytime, if somebody's willing to pay for it, if they're willing to pay, y'all scalping the NFL. Hold on. We sold all these tickets. And the players can only get 15 tickets. You get 13 tickets, you get two free.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Now, it used to be team. It was at the team discretion. Teams could give you 20, 30 tickets, whatever the case may be. But there was a discrepancy many years ago. One team gave a team 30 tickets and the other team gave, so the NFL said, you know what we're
Starting point is 00:15:19 going to do? We're going to take it over. You're going to be able to give them two free comp tickets, just like you get at home, and they can buy 13. And guess what? And guess what sometimes players did with them 13 tickets? Oh, you sold them. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:35 You probably have your mom, your close close mom, you know, dad. If you got a significant other or wife, obviously you got kids. But listen, you got to play because they're eating. You know how players think, man. We ain't worried. We ain't caring.
Starting point is 00:15:50 My family don't care. If I ain't playing no goddamn Super Bowl, I don't care nothing about going. Shit, we finna make this money. Ocho, the families came in on Thursday. So Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday night. That's four nights. Now, I got a mom.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I got a sister. I got a girlfriend. I got kids. Right. That's four rooms. And that's bare minimum four rooms. Possibly a fifth. And who do you think feeding them?
Starting point is 00:16:20 Who do you think entertaining them? Who do you think flew? Now, I could have flew now i could have flew i could have flew now my family this was pre-9-11 so this was pre the tickets was was high as giraffe hoo-ha but so an ocho i gotta bring my mom from chicago i gotta bring my sister. And at that time, my cousin, Mud, she flew with her. I got to bring them from Georgia to San Diego. My kids, okay, the kids, my sister picked up the kids,
Starting point is 00:16:52 brought them from Georgia. And now my girlfriend was on the charter. And so, okay, cool, charter. I was like, I could have got my, but what sense does it make to fly my family from Georgia, Chicago, to Denver to get on the charter. I was like, I could have got my, but what sense does it make to fly my family from Georgia, Chicago, to Denver
Starting point is 00:17:07 to get on the charter and then now get on the charter. Now they got to fly back from San Diego to Denver or from Miami because, you know, we flew and we played in Miami or when I was in Baltimore, we flew to Tampa. So I just like, okay. I mean, I think I spent like 15 grand
Starting point is 00:17:23 just in flights. Well, you're better than me because my family would have understood. No, no, no, no. The Super Bowl, mom, my sister, oh, they got to go to kids. They got to go to that. The Super Bowl? Right, okay. Now, there are a lot of people that have never seen Shannon Shaw play a football game.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Not a preseason game, not a regular season game, not a playoff game. You mean in person? In person. In person. Okay, okay. But they wanted, not a playoff game. You mean in person? In person. But they wanted to go to the Super Bowl. Right. Child, please. That's all you had to tell him. Child, please. Now, my homeboy, I had one
Starting point is 00:17:56 homeboy, Bucket, that it was in town. I done heard Bucket's name so goddamn much. I feel like I know him. That's my dog. Him and Burns. But Burns was on the team. They going to be in Vegas? No, hell no.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Hell no. No. And so, you know, I had a ticket. I had a ticket for one of my homeboys. But something came up. That's something we'll discuss at a later date and time. He wasn't able to attend. And so I had two tickets.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I said, Bucket, I got a ticket for you and my other homeboy now, I ain't got nothing for your wife you had to let him know no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no you ain't getting no ticket you and my other homeboy well, my other homeboy wasn't able to come something came up, he hit me up, he said
Starting point is 00:18:41 man, such and such not gonna be able to come can I use the other ticket for my wife? I said, hell yeah. Okay, okay. Long as it was free. Long as it was free. Anytime it was close. Right. Jacksonville, he would come to Jacksonville. He would drive close by.
Starting point is 00:18:57 He ain't got a whole lot. At the time, he was a police officer. Then he later worked for ATF. So he ain't like he making a whole ton of money to be able to put himself up and come. So I always took care of it but but in a situation like that Ocho you know like I said the Super Bowl that's a special occasion my mom come to everyone and at the time my um my step pops uh pops came with my mom so I gotta fly him but I'm feeding everybody every day I'm playing for entertainment every day and the hotel room and the flight.
Starting point is 00:19:28 So like I said, I spent probably I probably spent like 30 grand for the entirety of the trip. But everybody, and we won all of them, so everybody had a really good time. Right. And you know what's funny? I'm sitting here talking. I'm not even realizing when I was with the Patriots, we made the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Yeah. I'm not even realizing and obviously, you know Patriots, we made the Super Bowl. Yeah. I'm not even realizing. And obviously, you know what? Lil CJ was there. My daughter was there. Your mom, grandma? No, grandma. She wasn't able to travel. Yeah, she wasn't able to travel at that point. But your mom?
Starting point is 00:19:58 No, mom. You know, me and mom, we weren't seeing eye to eye during that time. You know, her and I have a whoa. Listen, there's a reason we call it Hurricane Paula. You know, that's the reason we call it that. So, we weren't seeing eye to eye during that time.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And, you know, it wasn't much. How many of your kids was there? Two? Three? Maybe three. No, two. I think it was CJ and G. But you had to have somebody take care of them because, hell, you couldn't. Yeah, because I had who I was seeing. You got to practice.
Starting point is 00:20:30 You got to practice. Yeah, during that time. Your girlfriend at the time. Yeah. So I didn't spend nothing close to what you did. Nothing close. And obviously, you have to think also. Did you get one room?
Starting point is 00:20:41 So you probably had one hotel room. Probably. Probably that was it. And then you have to also think, like, why is everybody flying? And you understand I wasn't the same Chad that we used to see in Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:20:53 But it ain't like I'm for to come out here and be goddamn, maybe have an opportunity to win goddamn MVP at this damn Super Bowl. Like, so let's slow down a little bit. We're talking about, oh, I'm coming to watch you play.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Well, shit, I ain't do nothing doing the regular season. I'm not sure what you're expecting in this one goddamn game. So it kind of didn't make sense, you know, in full effect when I look at it in hindsight. So, I mean, it was cool,
Starting point is 00:21:13 but I ain't spend nothing like that. Yeah. and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps, and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee. No dumb hot takes here, just smart hot takes. We'll talk every single game, every single week, but I can't do it alone, so I'm bringing in the big guns from NFL media. That's Patrick Claibon, Steve Weiss, Nick Shook,
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Starting point is 00:22:09 And who doesn't want that? Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And so the thing was, Ocho, I ended up like for the flight because I, because I didn't have, like, I only used one seat on the plane. So I, well, I had a friend. Her name was Sharon, and she did everything for me. She cleaned the house. She did all the shopping. She did all the washing. And rest her soul. That was my dog. Sharon?
Starting point is 00:22:38 I could come. She was like my aunt. And she had, her face was her credentials. She could go anywhere in the stadium. And they had to show no ID. They let her in the stadium. They knew. She was good.
Starting point is 00:22:51 She channeled people. She good. Her and her daughter, I got them on the plane. I got them tickets. But other than that, and then for the most part, I ended up giving my seats away. Because, hey, bro, you need, hey, I got, you know, you got X amount of seats. Hey, go ahead, bro ended up giving my seats away. Hey, bro, you got X amount of seats. Hey, go ahead, bro.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I ain't got nobody. I ain't flying my family. My family flying straight to the game. I ain't flying my family out here to put them on some plane. When they leave San Diego, I already know my sister and my mom going to want to go straight home. They're not going to want to go to Denver. They're not going to have to. No. I flew them straight home. It was a great
Starting point is 00:23:24 experience. We won all three games home, but it was a great experience. We won all three games that made it even sweeter. You know, the kids had to go, you know, they, their mom, the kids was down for a little while. Cause you know, we had a party. Obviously you win the game, you have a party afterwards. Right. You know, you have a little party. Then obviously, obviously, you know, my mom took the kids upstairs, me and my sister stayed down a little while. Then me and, you know, hey, you know, I had to shake.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Hey, it's Super Bowl. I won. We got to shake the covers. Bo-Dog. Wait, wait. Wait, who wait? Wait, wait, wait, wait, nah. Let's rewind a little bit.
Starting point is 00:23:55 I need better context on who you shaking the covers with during this time. Is there somebody special in your life? I had a girlfriend this time. Yeah. You had a girl? Yeah. Yeah. Because she would ask me.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Now, wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Stay with me now. the time. You had a girl? Yeah. Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait. Stay with me now. You won. You got three Super Bowl rings. I got three Super Bowl rings. So did you have a different girlfriend for each Super Bowl? Well, the second Super Bowl, I didn't have anybody.
Starting point is 00:24:18 But you had somebody come in, though? No, no, no. I didn't. No, no, I didn't. No. Okay. Okay. No, I didn't. So the first Super Bowl, I had a girlfriend. And the last Super Bowl, I didn't. No, no, I didn't. No. Okay. Okay. No, I didn't. So the first Super Bowl, I had a girlfriend. And the last Super Bowl, I had a girlfriend. And in the first Super Bowl, my girlfriend at the time, and she was amazing. And I got high respect.
Starting point is 00:24:37 We're still cool today because she was up front with me and said, Shannon, I want to move on. I want to go see somebody else. Oh, hell no. She ain't tried my dog like that. He had the audacity. What you mean? How many times have you told a girl you want to move on?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Never. Everybody left me. That's beside the point. Women need to understand. Shannon Shaw. I'm not a woman, but even I can see the vision of where you're going. Even I can see the vision of where you're going. I can see the vision of where you was heading.
Starting point is 00:25:13 You don't want to leave that because look what you got now. I'm hell to deal with. I'm not going to sit here and tell somebody, yeah, I mean, everything that looks good and you see how diligent I am and how hardworking I am, but I'm not easy to get along with. I'm not easy to live with. I wouldn't tell nobody that lie. Listen, even if you're not easy to deal with, right? Everybody come with baggage. It's all about finding that one person based on the life you want to live,
Starting point is 00:25:41 the willingness to unpack that baggage. Unpack that baggage. Listen, you my dog and I'm just saying if I was a woman, there's some shit that I don't like about you, but I'm going to have to just deal with it. No, no, no. You still got baggage, Ocho. I came with more
Starting point is 00:25:59 baggage than a Delta airline. That's alright. Because there's a woman out there that is willing to unpack because you're a good nigga. Oh, shit. My bad. My bad. But you're a good dude. I am? You're a good dude. Listen, you mean well. I am. You mean well because when
Starting point is 00:26:15 when somebody needs you based on the stories, you're going to always be there. Oh, for sure. If you get first called nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Hold on. That's not everybody. You need to be cool. You need to be cool with me. That's what I'm talking about. But you got to, we talk about people you are intimate with and understand. Yes. If you
Starting point is 00:26:31 cool with me, we gonna always be cool. Cause my number one thing is protect the brain. I said, because if the brain goes away, Shannon's gonna go away and I can't do what you asked me to do for you. So that's number one. You gotta to protect the brand. And so if you cool with me
Starting point is 00:26:48 and like I said, when them kids came, my mom them came, they came on a Thursday. My mom, my sister came over. She brought the kids. They brought the kids. Oh, we want to because that was the last time I was going to see the kids until after the game. They weren't going to be running.
Starting point is 00:27:03 They weren't going to be. I wasn't going to be coming over to the hotel and hanging out and doing all that stuff and splashing in the pool. The festivities and all that other stuff, that's for families. I came down. My event was going to happen at 630 on Sunday night. And everybody understood that. And her job, my girlfriend's job, was to make it as easy as possible on my mom and my sister. So when the kids wanted to go to SeaWorld, to see Shamu, gone.
Starting point is 00:27:29 San Diego do, gone. The zoo, she got them and gone. No hesitation. My mom them doing whatever they want to do, hey, you got the kids. And so when it came time for us to go our separate ways, she came to me like a woman.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I'm good with that, Ocho. I'm good with that. Let me tell you, I'm trying to explain to you why I'm not good with it. Because as women, I think women at times, they think that I will be able to find what it is I have right now or better if I move on. And I think they don't understand it's very difficult to find someone like yourself that you can always count on. Now, there might be some things that you don't like that we can work through and get by, but always having someone you can count on 24-7 come hell or high water is very difficult to find. Someone that's loyal, a good person. There's
Starting point is 00:28:23 going to be some issues. know we all have our issues and I'm telling you man it's dangerous out there and it's real thin it's real thin I just think the mindset of women at times is like you know what
Starting point is 00:28:34 I can find this again because look I'm pretty or look at me I got a shape or look at me I got ass I've done that Ocho it's quantity it's quantity but quality of what you're looking for
Starting point is 00:28:45 is very difficult to find. And sometimes women have to learn the hard way because they're hard-headed because they think based on aesthetics and the visual, I'll be able to find it again. But what comes with that is the games that women have to deal with.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Women, you're a straight shooter. Yeah, Ocho. It's good to have a straight shooter, boy. You're like a Magnum 357 Do you know how many women I've looked over because I saw something more aesthetically pleasing And I left the best woman that I had Just because I saw something more aesthetically pleasing
Starting point is 00:29:19 You can't do that, Unc So that's why I don't get upset When a woman comes to me and tell me she wants to go on. I like the way you put that. Not that give, okay, I feel a little better now because you done made
Starting point is 00:29:32 the same mistake too. You know what? I feel a little better. Ocho, I feel a little better. I had a... So you, I'm just honestly speaking, you've made that mistake
Starting point is 00:29:41 leaving a good woman for something that looks better aesthetically and pleading to the eye? Yes. Okay. Okay. And so I told my girlfriend, I said,
Starting point is 00:29:53 I'm not happy. I said, I'm miserable in my own home. I said, I have a headache all the time. Always do argue. I said, I want to be with somebody else and I'm going gonna go find them hey they ain't out there i'm telling you man well you know through experience i ain't got to tell you nothing yeah i wasn't i was gonna sit here and preach to you just you know i know it's sunday but
Starting point is 00:30:16 i'm not anything i don't already know oh boy come on now come on now and so i like i said i i i i've made the mistake oh joe and i'm not perfect and i don't sit here and proclaim to be perfect and i don't say you know oh oh no no no no shannon didn't leave everybody women have left shannon sharp and that's okay that's that is perfectly okay right because they make they made me better and they made me look internal at some of the flow. And I fixed some of them. Right. Well, we got some more to work on. I fixed some of them. But like the most dilapidated of buildings, I'm still under repair. And I'm OK with that. Hey, that was nice. That was a bar right there. Hey, that was nasty. Hey, I've been watching this listen i've been watching battle rap man i've
Starting point is 00:31:07 gotten into battle rap real real real heavy and that was a bar that was a bar that was filthy i like that you know back in my day when i used to write when i used to write love letters on show you know your boy back in the day without the high high school, you know, high school, early in college. Yeah, yeah. Junior high, used to write love letters. Like college, college, and like late, like late high school, early college.
Starting point is 00:31:33 This is how I know you're a good dude. You know what it takes for a man to be able to sit down and to put thought and a sum on paper and use the pen?
Starting point is 00:31:41 Mm-hmm. That is that, that's that genuine, that's that notebook type of, I'm pen, that is that, that's that genuine, that's that notebook type of, I'm really, I'm really feeling you and I'm going to express my feelings and my thoughts
Starting point is 00:31:53 through paper instead of communicating it. Oh, that's nice. Because sometimes, sometimes I could, I could write down what I couldn't say to the young lady in person.
Starting point is 00:32:04 It makes it that much easier because everybody's not equipped to be able to say or communicate some of the things they're feeling and being able to express it verbally. It's very difficult at times, especially if it's someone you just met. You know, you kind of don't want to open up like that and be a little bit too vulnerable too soon until you understand that the reciprocation is there. Yeah. You know, but you know, Ocho, I start that thing off, you know, time and opportunity presents itself that I take this time that I tell you
Starting point is 00:32:33 just how special you are to me. You know the first line I open up, Ocho? You know that? Ocho, you boy, I told you. I was here when I was well, Ocho. Come on, man. Hey, bro, I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:32:47 You know what? I'm going to put that shit in my bow. I'm going to put that in my bow. That's how I'm going to start my bow. That's my way. Yes, sir. I like that. Bad Ocho, you boy.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Back in the day, Ocho, man, you know. Hey, you and that boy. That's why I still came. I can't figure out why they left, man. I still came. I guarantee. Huh? Listen, I guarantee this. now. I guarantee this.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I guarantee this. It's a no, but it's not really disrespect. Those in your past, I say, I bet if they look in the rearview mirror, they'll put that motherfucker in reverse. I bet that. I bet if those that left you, if they look in the rearview mirror, I guarantee you they put that motherfucking car in reverse right now. Well, you know what, Ocho? or they put that motherfucking car in reverse right now? Well, you know what, Ocho? I had an ex today, and
Starting point is 00:33:27 we hadn't been together in 25, 30 years. And I was just straight up with her. And, you know, from time to time, she would hit me up, and time to time I'd hit her up to check on us, make sure everything's okay. And I said, I said, how did I start it up?
Starting point is 00:33:44 I think I said something about, I've known you 35, 1987, 37 years. Yes, sir. You've been different places. I've been different places. I have different situations. You've been married. I said, this is what I know for 100% certainty. For categorically for certainty.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I said, other men might have had your body, but I've always had your heart. Come on, give me them bars. He sent me a text back saying, as much as I wanted to hate you, and I've tried for so long, you'll always have my heart. Well, I got to stand up on this. But she wasn't telling me anything that I didn't already know. I know why so much vitriol.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I knew why she put so much vitriol towards me and did the things that she did because she loved me. Yeah. Now, see, remember I said this in the show not too long ago remember i said this in the show not too long ago fellas you're always dealing with somebody you're always dealing with a woman she you might have her physically but there's a guy from her past there's a guy from her past that will always have access i have have her mentally up here no matter what no matter how no matter how happy she is remember i told you that yeah i'm gonna tell you that yeah and you you just explained the situation right there oh yeah rail yeah i'm gonna wake her ass up because everybody got one everybody got one especially if you're in the chat uh women if you're listening
Starting point is 00:35:24 and you just heard the explanation there that i just told, tell me you're not lying. There's always somebody. Even if they don't reach out to you, there's always somebody. I mean, look, I remember the first time a woman actually took me on vacation. It was her. I said, I said, I said, I took you? Yes. Unc, you let that go?
Starting point is 00:35:43 St. The Virgin Islands, St. Thomas. I said, baby, I ain't got, I said, baby, I ain't got no money. I said, I ain't took you. Yes. Uncle, you let that go. St. The Virgin Islands, St. Thomas. I said, baby, I ain't got. I said, baby, I ain't got no money. I said, I ain't got no money. She said, I got this hotel food. I ain't pay for nothing. Oh, that's the one.
Starting point is 00:35:58 All I was was a plumber for the whole weekend. Hey, yeah, you. all I was was a plumber for the whole weekend. Hey, yeah, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you. Because, you know, you know what I'm saying? I hadn't been, I hadn't been out of the country. I mean, I don't get to say commerce is theoretically inside of the continental. But anyway,
Starting point is 00:36:30 I hadn't been nowhere Ocho. Yeah. She put it on me, Ocho. Hey, it ain't too many like that now. Hold on. Let me, let me, let me tip, so you can see my head now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Ain't too many like that that's going to pay for you. Yeah, man. That really got you because, you know, women, they looking for provider. We know what that means. We know what that's's going to pay for you. Yeah, man. That really got you because, you know, women, they looking for a provider. We know what that means. We know what that's called for.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Huh? Yeah. Nice. But like I said, look, I've been in situations and seemingly what I had wasn't enough. And I think the thing is now
Starting point is 00:37:01 is being able to accept enough. Right. Right. So at least appreciating what you got. I have. But back, but, you know, Ocho, you back then. I'm 19, 20, 22. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Man, please. Listen, when you're young, this is one of the things that that that is going to get the younger generation as well. It's always thinking that I can always get better and I could always attain better. And you know what? All that gold or all that glitters ain't gold. It's your weight. Because the higher up you go, and women love to say this as well. Women love to say, oh, I'm going to get a man with a bigger bag. Oh, I'm going to get a man that's richer than you. I'm going to get somebody that looks better than you. But always understand what comes with that. There's always pros and cons to everything as you continue to want to climb the ladder
Starting point is 00:37:45 and whatever it is that you do or whatever it is you're trying to attain, there's always a con and a bad side to it. Yes. Outside of the pleasing aesthetics that we're used to seeing.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Yeah. And the question is... We stuck in the now. We don't think long-term with nothing. Yeah. We don't think long-term. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I mean, like I said, Ocho, I look back and I was like, man, what was I... I mean like I said Ocho I look back and I was like man what was I I mean I have my moments because I spent a lot of time alone just me and the dogs and I'm I'm loading my thoughts and I go back and I pan over the course of 35 40 years of my life
Starting point is 00:38:17 and saying that was that there have been like honestly I can honestly say there have been three three That was that there, there, there have been like, honestly, I can honestly say there have been three, three that I should that that no question should have been Mr. Mr. Sharp. No question. We all got the. OK, well, you so if you were someone to ask you the question, do you have somebody in your life?
Starting point is 00:38:42 You know what? Damn, she was the one that got away. So you got three adults. away so you got three of those you got three of them and you know that's dope that you could be honest about that too that's real dope because a lot of people be like ah nah
Starting point is 00:38:56 I don't need nobody from my past they are ex for a reason but there are some good people that we have lost yeah due to circumstance, whether it be pride, whether it be ego or feeling that we could find
Starting point is 00:39:09 better than that and most of the time, we're not successful in doing so. Yeah. And actually, one of them was the one that played
Starting point is 00:39:19 that Michelle Indigo cello song. Oh, okay, okay, okay. But I remember she told me this early in our relationship and she okay, okay. But I remember she told me this early in our relationship. And she said, Shannon, and I remember her and I was having a conversation. She said, Shannon, you're the worst thing that's ever happened to me.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And I'm looking, I'm like, well, damn. She said, Shannon, I'm never going to meet a man like you. I'm not going to meet somebody as disciplined, as hardworking, as funny, as driven, as motivated. She said, I'm not going to meet somebody as disciplined, as hardworking, as funny, as driven, as motivated. She said, I'm not going to meet that. She said, I know. She says, Shannon, I know that. She says,
Starting point is 00:39:54 I know you're a once in a lifetime man. But she says, I also know you're not ready for what I'm ready for. She says, I'm going to take ready for what I'm ready for. She says, I'm gonna take it for what it's worth. I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:40:10 have, we're gonna have as much fun. But she says, I know it's gonna stop. She said, because you're not ready for what I'm ready for. Now see, you know what? When you talk like that and based on what you're saying, I know this is the older woman. This is a seasoned woman. No. Because if it was, if this was someone young thinking like that, and based on what you're saying, I know this is the older woman. This is a seasoned woman.
Starting point is 00:40:26 No. Because if this was someone young thinking like that, with that type of maturity? Yes. Yes. Ocho, now you talk about, look here. Talking like that? Ocho. I mean, what I... Everything
Starting point is 00:40:41 you just said sounds like a seasoned vet that don't want to play no more games. She was done with the game. I'm not sticking around for him to change where I was in my life. Yeah. And what I had going on. Yeah. It was just I wasn't ready for what she could offer. And she was when I say she look, I'm talking about, there's only been a half, I've had women that I can have conversation with and we laugh and we talk. And there's one right now that's, that's, that's really special. And I've really never had the chemistry with her,
Starting point is 00:41:19 with someone else like I've had with her, but she's in a different situation. She's in her situation and I'm happy for and I wish them the best of luck. But this situation that I'm talking about, Ocho. Right, right, right. I'm talking about laughing and talking and just carrying on. I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:37 get on the phone and we could talk hours and all we do is talk about and it's nothing you know, we cracking jokes. We making fun. We go to a restaurant and I asked her that we go in talk about, and it's nothing, you know, we cracking jokes, we making fun. We go to a restaurant and I asked her, did we go in there? It's like, okay. And I was like, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:41:54 will you guys let me bring my horse in? And I point to her and she just busts out laughing. Right, right, right, right, right. And so we start to order and she was like, I noticed you don't have any oats and apples on the menu. And she point and they look at it like, yeah, you know, I got my horse sitting over here and he likes oats and apples. So, yeah, we have it. We joke it like that.
Starting point is 00:42:16 That kind of dynamic is fun. Yeah. Yes. Dynamic is fun. She sent me a text and said Kentucky Derby said that your entry was denied and you're not going to be able to run this year. You know, stuff like that, Ocho. Right, right, right. Ocho, I wasn't ready, Ocho. I wasn't.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Based on what you're telling me, listen, it sounds like the perfect story, but I guarantee you during this time, you were still playing. Oh, yeah. And I had just started to get into my own now all of a sudden no joe i'm a this was i'm a two-time three-time first team all pro i've
Starting point is 00:42:54 gone to like three consecutive pro bowls thousand yard seasons now i'm really feeling good about myself I know what you mean so you know hey if she think I look good I'm sure somebody else think that too and that was a mistake I made that was just a mistake I made yeah
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Starting point is 00:44:22 Somebody just said, I'm dressed like Beetlejuice. And this is the. Somebody just said I'm dressed like Beetlejuice. And this is the, somebody said I'm dressed like Beetlejuice and really not understanding of who I'm wearing. Tell me, do me a favor. What's the name on the back of this? Just for the people in the chat get a better understanding. Uncultured swines. That's Neymar. That's Neymar Jr. the great Brazilian yeah yeah this is this is the club Santos where he where he played at in Brazil before he made it to I like to call the big leagues this guy here it's about just like Beetlejuice uh Ocho we got some news and that's gonna probably
Starting point is 00:45:01 take over and I'm sure Patrick Mahomes is going to be asked about it. Patrick Mahomes Sr. was arrested and charged with his third DWI, third or more DWI. Mahomes Sr. was arrested on DWI charges multiple times over the last 12 years, 2012, 2018, 2019, and a recent arrest over the weekend. Mahomes was arrested for his second driving while intoxicated charge in 2018, served 40 days sentence, and he served those over the weekend. Mahomes was arrested for his second driving while intoxicated charge in 2018, served 40 days sentence, and he served those over the weekend. The news come a week before his son takes the field in Super Bowl 58. How do you expect young Patrick to handle this distraction? I mean, this is not a distraction. This is not a distraction. It's something that he's dealt with before.
Starting point is 00:45:48 His father has had two other issues, and it hasn't affected his play on the field. And when it comes to... Next to this right before the Super Bowl. Now they're going to ask him. You know media day. Oh, yeah. But he ain't paying that no mind.
Starting point is 00:46:00 You know, he ain't paying that no mind. Even if they do ask him, we talk about a two-time Super Bowl champ, one that will never be rattled, that's been in the highest of situations. He'll be fine. He'll be fine. Again, it's unfortunate, especially for your father to not learn from the past two times. Yeah, that's what's going to make. And as a father, I would think you would, at this point, you want to get an Uber. You want to get an Uber. If you're inebriated, if you're drinking, if you're consuming alcohol, if you're out somewhere, don't even drive yourself. Have a driver.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Obviously, you have a son that we already know that is completely well off. Talk to your son. Pat, have a talk with dad. Listen, pops, if you want to go out, if you want to have fun, let me get a car service for you. Let me get a driver for you. That's really nothing. No, that makes your issues of this extent don't happen again. I think that's something that they should do going forward so they don't have to deal with this again. Because obviously it's sustained on the family. And it's not going to affect Pat on the field,
Starting point is 00:46:59 but off the field having to deal with the media, having to deal with the scrutiny, having to deal with everyone in their personal family business is uh it's a bad look anytime someone in the family becomes more prominent high profile everybody have to move differently Patrick Mahomes senior your son is Patrick Mahomes jr you can't move the same way you once could you just can't also I understood that my brother now was Sterling Sharp and he's the seventh pick in the NFL draft of the Green Bay Packers. All that trifling stuff
Starting point is 00:47:32 that I wanted to do or that I was doing before, I couldn't do it anymore. Nah, you can't. Because they're going to say the younger brother of all Packer receivers, Sterling Sharp, Shannon Sharp, was arrested. Or come on, Patrick Mahomes Sr.?
Starting point is 00:47:48 Yeah, yeah. I mean, clearly he has an issue. I mean, there's no other way around it. And hopefully he gets that resolved and not put himself because he lucky. Because remember, Andy Reid's son had a DWI three days before the Super Bowl 55, crashing into a broken down car on the roadside. And the crash left a five-year-old girl in a coma for 10 days. And she was permanently disabled. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:48:19 And so, like I said, a lot of times people think, well, oh, it was just a DWI. Nobody was hurt. Right. But how many times have we heard situations where people was hurt? Henry Ruggs, alcohol, driving at a high rate of speed, slams into a car going over 120 miles an hour. She's dead. His NFL career, he's in jail.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Leonard Little, involuntary manslaughter. Rams. Rams? Leonard Little? Yes. From Florida? Yes. Vehicular homicide. Did Dante Stall work? I forgot. I don't even remember these situations.
Starting point is 00:49:04 That's crazy. How do you remember that stuff? I just hate that he put himself in that situation. He put himself in that situation. And like you said, Ocho, here's the thing, Ocho. And his dad was a professional athlete. The one thing about athletes
Starting point is 00:49:18 is that we don't think it's going to happen to us. We're invincible. Well, it's already happened twice. So you can't be thinking like that. It's already happened twice. Yes. You think you're invincible. Well, it's already happened twice. So you can't be thinking like that. It's already happened twice. Yes. You think you're invincible based on the situation and the circumstance that you're in now.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Right. My son is Pat Mahomes, wherever I am, if someone does stop me, you know what? It'd be a slap on the wrist. Listen here, Mr. Mahomes, senior, you can't be out here driving like that. Okay, they let you go. You can get away with a lot of things based on who your son is right now. But you run into that one officer. Right. You run into that one officer who wants that credit, who wants to be, you know, the talk of the town in the department.
Starting point is 00:49:54 But you're the one that they're looking for that. Right. But again, there's a problem that he might have, but there's a solution to it. Yeah. All Pat has to do is stop. Get flabby drunk. Hey. Yeah. Yeah. Get sloppy drunk. Hey, hey, yo, son, look here.
Starting point is 00:50:07 If my dad, my dad was a, was an alcoholic. But had he been alive to see me and my brother play, I'd have tried to get him help. But if he couldn't, hey, hey, dad, there's a car, you don't drive. You got a car, but don't you drive.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Yeah. Because I'm a spitting image of my dad. I look just like my dad. But, and I'm going to have somebody with him. Now, I'm going to fire your ass if you let my daddy get behind the wheel. Wheel, yeah. Yeah. Your responsibility is to make sure he gets to and from you driving.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yeah. Your responsibility is to make sure he gets to and from you driving. But listen, the funny thing is, I have a little experience when it comes to having a parent that that that love that likes to drink, that loves a drink. Obviously, on my end, you know, it wasn't she didn't like to drink and drive at the same time, but she would drink and it would affect our relationship. So, you know, you asked me earlier, you know, was your mom at the Super Bowl? Well, hell, it was hard to deal with her and be around her more than goddamn two or three goddamn hours because of her consumption of alcohol. And for those that don't know, we did, matter of fact, just to give a small glimpse of you never met my mama. I think the world got a chance to see who she was and see what I had to deal with. My mom and I, she was an alcoholic. She drunk a lot, drunk a lot, you know, to the point where my grandma is, you know, my
Starting point is 00:51:30 grandma raised me for that specific reason. Obviously, I can tell y'all because we all family, the drug use, the alcohol and abusing it. So my grandma was like, listen, you leaving this little boy here with me and you can go ahead and my mom moved off to LA. That's how I ended up at Santa Monica. Okay. Back to the story. So dealing with her is she would always consume alcohol. And this might be one of the reasons why I've never drank. She would always consume alcohol and then she would become someone I didn't even know. She would become someone I didn't even know. And I couldn't quite understand why are you always angry? You can't be angry at me because I didn't do anything wrong. But then my grandma always happened to explain to me, baby, this is what happens when she drinks, boom, along with other things. So I kind of empathize in a sense with Pat because I was
Starting point is 00:52:15 still able to play regardless of what was going on in my personal life and dealing with her. Right. It's like, it's crazy. And one of the reasons she got the name Hurricane Paula, because when she does consume alcohol, she becomes just that. It's a hurricane. Right. It's a hurricane. And we had it. We had a funny, a funny thing with friends of mine throughout the years. You really not a friend of mine or you ain't been around long enough if you haven't been cursed out by my mom. If you ain't been cursed out by mama, you aren't really a friend of mine. You ain't been around long enough if you haven't been cursed out by my mama if you ain't been cursed out by mama you aren't really a friend of mine because you ain't been around long enough my kids got it i got it anybody i dated got it my coaches got it my friends got it everybody my teachers got it
Starting point is 00:52:57 everybody and it was hard to even have her around important events because i didn't know she was gonna show up inebriated or not. Well, hey, boy, listen, my mom and I wanted to help my mama the same way I'm sure Pat wants to help his dad. So I say, you know what? The opportunity presented itself where not only we can make a little money, I can get you some change, but we're going to go on a show with some doctors. We did Marriage Boot Camp.
Starting point is 00:53:21 And Chad, if you haven't seen Marriage marriage boot camp family edition between me and my mom watch that when you get some time and you'll understand who she really was because you know most of the time you have family members going camera and they put on and be someone that they're not they put on their representative because the world is watching um me and my mom went on that show the whole point was to try to mend our relationship and find a way to make things work because and figure out what's wrong with her past they offered places she can go they offered rehab every morning she woke up what's the first thing you think she went and got something to drink something to drink and they they purposely allowed her to drink and drink and drink and man that
Starting point is 00:54:03 woman stole the show that woman stole the show. That woman stole the show. And obviously I let people that want to go back and watch it and see who Hurricane Paula was, cussed everybody out on the show, cussed out the producers, cussed out the castmates. And we didn't end up finishing the show because she cussed everybody out. She cussed everybody out and left the show before it ended and from that point on with me trying to help there was really nothing i could do because she wasn't even trying to help herself yeah and maybe my mama passed she just passed in 2021 what do you think she died from probably scoliosis heart cirrhosis not scoliosis cirrhosis alcohol poisoning yep alcohol poisoning and so that's
Starting point is 00:54:47 that's just there's a story with pat and it kind of resonates with me in a sense not to the sense of her getting in trouble and arrested but dealing with someone who likes to consume alcohol and there's really no way to control it even when you try to get him help him they just they just won't listen yeah i don't understand why people like giving up control like that, Ocho. I mean, I think for us, especially like me, I got to be in control. I don't like, you know, I can only say there's been one time that I kind of lost control,
Starting point is 00:55:16 but I was able to regain it and that was the Lakers situation at that game. But I don't like being out of control, Ocho. Right. You think you was... I was like, yeah, I'm glad. You were drinking? No, I wasn't drinking. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Oh, so you were good. Yeah, I was good. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. That's one of the reasons, you know, I think because my father was an alcoholic also and he ended up having both jawbones removed. Ended up having...
Starting point is 00:55:42 He ended up dying when I was 13 years of age and uh i saw him once to actually know who i was looking at i saw him when i was in i think the first the kindergarten first grade that's how i've been first grade and the next time i saw him he didn't know i was looking at him his face was like a looking glass i was just looking down and staring at him and he didn't he didn't look nothing like the man that I remember seeing all those years ago, but that's what the, the,
Starting point is 00:56:08 the, the drinking had done to him. That's what the, the surgery of having both of his jawbones removed and why he didn't want to come because he said, told my grandma, grandma, Charlie,
Starting point is 00:56:18 that he didn't want his kids to see him in this kind of condition. Okay. Okay. But what he didn't realize, I just wanted to see my father. It wasn't the conditions. It was the man that i wanted to see and what i would give to have if i could just have him and my grandfather barney porter the one that raised me and him just to see see what me and my brother became just for one day. Yeah, I would love to see years
Starting point is 00:56:46 and years, but just for one day to see what me and my brother became. That would probably be, that would top any day Pro Bowl, Hall of Fame, this, for them to see that.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Because I remember my grandfather and my grandmother was happy because remember i told you ocho my grandfather and grandmother didn't sleep in the same bed right my grandfather and my brother slept over here and me and my grandmother slept over there and they was having a conversation and they they thought we were all out of sleep i wasn't um this had to be about two o'clock in the morning we didn't have a clock in the room so i couldn't tell you but i'm assuming it's probably around two o'clock in the morning. We didn't have a clock in the room, so I couldn't tell you. But I'm assuming it's probably around two o'clock in the morning. And I remember him saying so vividly. He said, Mary, he said, I might be dead and gone. But them boys gonna make something.
Starting point is 00:57:36 He said, it's so smart. They so attentive. They don't give us no back talk. They don't talk back. I'm thinking to myself, man, do you understand the punishment and the wrath that would rain down? And talk they don't talk back i'm thinking to myself man do you understand the punishment and the rap that would rain down and we we're afraid to talk back but he said right right he said and he said that young one he said mary that boy remember everything he because we were we was our dad's we was our grandfather's notepad because you know back then
Starting point is 00:58:04 no choice ain't nobody had no cell phone. So somebody told you their number, you just had to remember it. My grandfather, somebody would tell my grandfather, oh, hey, Barney, you know, I got a new number or I got a phone, because everybody at the time didn't have a phone. Hey, Barney, I got a number. I got a new phone. I got a phone.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Hey, tell it to them boys. So it was me and my brother's job to remember the phone number. And I just remembered that and that stuck with me. Here I am five, six years of age and he could project into the future 25 years later
Starting point is 00:58:35 that them two boys gonna make something. Man, that made me so proud to hear him say that as I'm going, as I'm playing in high school, as I'm playing in college and I playing in high school, as I'm playing in college and I'm playing in the NFL and I'm thinking back, my grandfather saw this. And so to have my dad, my actual dad and my grandfather, if only for one day to see what I
Starting point is 00:58:58 became, even if, even if they don't see me play football, but just see the man that I became. Because I named my son, I named my son after my dad. But, man, Ocho, that was, I mean, my grandparents and my grandparents didn't. I remember my grandfather got stopped by the state trooper. My grandfather was probably driving 120. So, got a license, um, insurance. My grandfather reached in the glove box, handed it to him. He said, uh, Mr. Porter say, yeah, he said, he's a, yeah. He said, uh, you've been drinking. My grandfather said, yeah,
Starting point is 00:59:41 about 40 years ago, boy, that's before your time right he said yeah it was mr porter he said okay now i'm gonna need you to slow it down he said okay but i think my grandmother said that's why you know they started having kids and uh they stopped drinking and i never obviously they drank communion but we never had alcohol in the house but just to just to i just would want my grandfather my dad to see what me and my brother became yeah that's it you know what that that that's that's dope and i always i've never thought about it like that because my mom my mom was around to see to see all of my success uh i would love for her to see how far I've come after falling, you know, off that mountaintop and the climb that I'm making to get back to where I fell from. But I would love to see what our relationship would have been like if she hadn't put me on alcohol.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I would love for you to be at every event I had. I would love for you to be at games. I would love for you to be at every event i had i would love to be at games i would love you to be at red carpet stuff i would love for you to travel i would love for you to go to pro bowl listen the game she did go to she got into it with people and embarrassed me oh man you know the red carpet stuff that i did take her to you know i got to get this drink before i put my clothes on. She embarrassed me, you know, so every time I would try to bring around those events where your mother's supposed to be present as a reason on why you're here, as an example of, you know, listen, I done made you proud,
Starting point is 01:01:18 I need you front and center. In all those instances, what does she do? Cuss somebody out, put her hands on somebody. And these are times where these were suable offenses. Right. That she's done. And people kind of understood based on, okay, you know what? I don't think that's really her. I think the fact that she has consumed alcohol because we can spell it.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Right. Along with other things, but I'm not going to go there. There's no point for that. But, you know, I got off a lot. And I think that's probably why I've never had alcohol before. And a lot of people don't believe me. A lot of people, perception,
Starting point is 01:01:50 when you see... A person's reception is their reality, Ocho. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that doesn't mean it's the truth. Yeah, no, no. People think I'm wild. They think I club because they let that on-field persona
Starting point is 01:02:01 that I put on, but I wasn't them but a character. I don't feel I'm nothing like that. Nothing like that. But that's enough of, but I wasn't them but a character. Ornfield, I'm nothing like that. Nothing like that. But that's enough of that before I start crying like a little girl. Yeah. Wake up with football every morning
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