Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to 49ers beating Aaron Rodgers & Jets, Tyreek body cam footage released
Episode Date: September 10, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets taking on Brock Purdy and the San Francisco 49ers on Monday Night Football and the release of the police bodyca...m footage in the detainment of Miami Dolphins star Tyreek Hill.03:10 - SHOW STARTS06:00 - 49ers beat Jets36:20 - Tyreek Body Cam56:50 - Watson sexual assault(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Appreciate that, appreciate that.
Listen, I'm late.
I'm late again, but this time,
this time I had to do number two. I had to do number
two. So I'm not sure if that is a good excuse for being a little late.
I'm just trying to figure out, help me out with this. Yes, sir.
So right, like right before you had to come on to like, you know what? I'm on. You ain't
have to do it like 10 minutes ago, 15 minutes ago, even five minutes ago. Like soon as I get ready to hit this, they're counting us down. You're like, hold on. You ain't have to do it like 10 minutes ago, 15 minutes ago, even five minutes ago.
Like soon as I get ready to hit this, they're counting us down. You're like, hold on.
It wasn't me. Listen, I understand the importance of the show. I know where we're going. I know
we're headed. We're going to be like the Temptations. Now I know sometimes I act like Eddie.
But you have to understand when I sat down I had a little turtle head.
Oh Lord.
Yeah.
So when you have a little turtle head, you know, you can't play with God's creation.
So I had to go, I had to get that out.
So I ain't do it all the way.
I just went halfway.
So I still got some left in me, but I'm gonna finish the show.
Yeah.
I mean, the people knew you was probably full of caca.
So they not surprised.
They not surprised you only pinched half of it off.
My grandma used to tell me I was full of shit all the time.
Yeah, they don't surprise you pinch half a lofa.
You ain't get the whole lofa.
Oh, so the game that we just watched,
the 49ers drug, the Jess 32 13,
they spoil Air Rogers return.
He was able to play a full night.
Even though Christian McCaffrey,
see Mac was ruled out before the game with Achilles and calf injury.
Adam Shepter says there's a real chance McCaffrey doesn't play next week,
next week against the Vikings.
Oh, Joe, watch this game.
The 49ers of all the teams that we saw play, the 49ers for me
were the most impressive because I think the just defense is going to be
really really good now the offense hey I think they'll get it going brief hall when he's forming
that ball early in the game oh it kind of gave kind of took a lot some of the steam out of it but
yeah the 49ers the way they can run the football the way purdy was throwing the ball he had some
drops in there too yeah he had some drops in there you dropped the touchdown right before the half
Two. Yeah. He had some drops in there. You dropped the touchdown right before the half.
But listen, he dropped. He dropped two big ones.
He did. He dropped two big one.
I think one of the problems, obviously, remember when Jamar Chase,
I hate to hate to remember Jamar Chase
went into the preseason and dropped ball at the ball at the ball.
Yes, yes.
And then had a historic season once it came.
I think you could probably has to get acclimated to the ball game speed, game tempo.
This is why I tell you preseason is so important.
When you when you miss that, when you miss those times,
you get acclimated to the ball.
And listen, that would have obviously
it would have made a difference in the game.
But I'm more impressed with the gist.
I'm more impressed with the gist because watching
Ambrose move the team up and down the field
with a few drops, a few penalties that back them up a little bit.
They look promising to me.
It looked promising to me.
I know somebody will say, well, damn, they only score seven points.
Well, damn, they only score 14 points.
I'm saying how the offense look as opposed to how they used to.
Again, they're going against the top NFC team.
They're going against the top NFC team. You take away some of them drops.
You take away some of those penalties. It's a different game.
Now the 49ers still might've won, but what I saw from the just night was
promising, promising. If you're just fan, you should be happy. I know,
I know it's a loss, but you got something to build off, build off of.
I agree with you, Ocho. Um, that's not an easy offense to defend. And I know,
you know, you're looking at where they got no Christian McCaffrey.
The one thing I can tell you about this offense,
cause I spent the majority of my career in this office, Ocho.
And I can tell you cause I played for Kyle's father, Mike. And if you,
they kept highlighting Bobby Turner, he's the running back coach.
He's the running, the run game coordinator. And if you, they kept highlighting Bobby Turner, he's the running back coach. He's the running, the run game coordinator.
And if you notice, could you tell Kristin McCaffrey wasn't in the game?
If you look at, you look at Denver, you look at, we had TD, we had Orlando's
Gary, we had Mike Anderson, we had Clint Porter's, we have Ruben drones in that
zone running scheme, you get one cut.
Yeah.
You started, you run hand up.
We run hand off strong, hand off weak, toss strong, toss weak.
You get one cut.
Ain't no, if you notice, ain't no dancing.
No running back in that system.
Dance.
You get one cut and you come downhill downhill.
Yeah.
And if you notice it doesn't, you look, Kristen McCaffrey
tends it to another level. But if you look at the guys you look Christian McCaffrey tests it to another level
But if you look at the guys that would in that office TD six round draft pick
Orlando's Gary six round draft pick Mike Anderson third round draft pick Ruben drones a late round
Mid-round draft pick Clinton Porter's was a second round draft pick
So you don't need to have all you got to do is follow instructions
They're gonna start it one way
Yeah, because eight hit your head on the goalpost, son.
And the wide receiver do a great job.
IU blocking downfield, Devo blocking downfield, Jennings blocking downfield.
Hell, Kittle is a second, is a second offensive lineman. He's blocking.
Think about it. They got a big run. They call it back. They withhold it.
Get another touchdown run. They call it back with hold it.
They go right back down the field and that same drive, running right back down your throat.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
I mean, Jeff defense don't look like a defense
that we saw last year,
but I'm sure they will get it together.
I don't know what happened to sauce.
I think sauce subluxes shoulder.
I want to know he's with, with a, with Debo.
Yeah.
I know that look.
I know that look when you hold your head.
I think he hit, yeah, I think it was Debo that he got
his shoulder, you gotta be careful.
He hit that shoulder.
Yeah.
And the thing is, when you play the 49ers,
you gotta out physical to them.
Cause that's one thing that Kyle Shanahan
he got from his daddy, we gonna come out there
and we gonna put hats on, we gonna be physical.
Now if you beat us, you are more physical to them. It ain't gonna. See, you gotta earn it. You gotta earn it. The thing is,
a lot of times when people looked at the West coast, they automatically assumed because the
alignment was undersized. Oh, they're for the next team. Yeah. Yeah. That was your first mistake.
You better, hey, we dropping D's in the dirt. We coming. Yeah, but you know what else could happen?
Now, if you watch the game chat, if y'all listening, if you watch the game tonight,
you can see when they did play action, they ran the ball so well when they did play action
ball.
Guys wide open.
Not only were they wide open, but Brock Purdy was sitting back there with a cigar.
Yes.
He done went through his read twice.
Yes.
I can go from one to three and come back to want to see if one is open.
So what I think the Jess need to do also to continue to complement that defense so you
can get back to the top three defense that you were last year.
We need to get brother Hassan ready in the goddamn door.
I would think we need to get brother Hassan whatever you need to do.
You need all hands on deck.
If you're serious about turning the franchise around, yeah.
Allowing it to be a winning culture and actually competing in the goddamn
AFC East with the Beals and the goddamn Dolphins.
The problem that they made, Ocho, you know, the guy's disgruntled.
Yeah.
He wanted contract.
Yeah.
You, it wasn't a change of scenery. He
wanted money. So you thought that oh he don't like being in Philly. We're going to bring
him to New York but we're not going to give him no money. Listen, they they probably you
know what they probably did. You know how this business work. But they probably probably
because they even discussed before he even came understanding that listen I want to be
paid by the Eagles based on my production. The past few years,
the Eagles said, you know what? We not going to do that.
We gonna let you go somewhere else. So I'm sure the jets knew brother,
Woody Johnson. I got that name right. Woody Johnson, right? Yeah.
I'm sure Mr. Johnson understood that song.
Redick was agreeing to come there because he was on the assumption he was going
to get a contract. Yeah. What, yeah what he knew that you understood that this is the games they play this is
the business that they play you understand how how good Hassan Reddick
is and what he can do for that defense and amplifying it even more than it was
last year he should have been in yeah looking looking at the defense tonight
and brought Purdy back there sitting sent back there, listened to Frank Sinatra, pattern has got damn, pattern got the ball.
Just make it happen.
Just effing off with the football.
He just like, Hey, and I thought he made one mistake.
He almost got it picked.
All they had to do was take the full, but all they had to do is take 24 to flat.
When you threw the seam route and Adam, I think it's Adam's got his hands on the ball.
Yep. The running back wide open in the flat.
All they had to do is take the flat and they go get a first down
and it will keep the chains moving.
Moving.
Yeah, but that's the thing you got to look.
You see what the 49 you can tell team serious about winning.
I will say this.
Jerry got the deal done.
You see what he did with that?
Oh, yeah. See, we did with CD.
You see the 49ers there?
They got big trends. Tristan, I ain't coming. Are you saying, hey? Oh, you see what he did with CD? You see what the 49ers did? They got big Trent. Trent's not coming.
Are you saying, hey, listen, you know what?
Hey, we got a Super Bowl to win.
And we're not winning the Super Bowl without those guys.
Yeah. Yeah.
You got to be if you can't listen,
if you can't pressure the quarterback, Ocho, you can't win in this league.
At all. At all.
The quarterbacks are too good.
The quarterbacks are too good.
If you don't if you don't put him under the rest
Mm-hmm make them care if it's one
I don't care if it's 32 if you don't put that quarterback under the rest 32 will look like number one. Yeah
Well, definitely you got to make it uncomfortable
The best way you can and one way for just to do that and to pick up what he left off from a defensive standpoint
You got to bring the sound right again or what they do, whatever they do have in the building
right now got to come up. They got to come up. They got to show up. They got to show
up shit.
And because you look at the court, you got Reed, you got, um, sauce. So you got guys
and sometimes you just need just that extra step. Just like, okay, they held this thing up.
Now you gotta get there.
One thousand one.
Hey guys, all I need is one thousand three.
One thousand three, we on his ass.
But, and you know what?
That's another problem.
Not only that, as good as Sauce Garden is,
as good as DJ Reed is, how good are you
if you got a couple of somebody for goddamn eight seconds?
Oh, you ain't coming no matter what.
I don't care who it is.
I don't care who it is. No, you ain't coming to that long. I don't care who it is. I don't care who it is.
You ain't coming to the guys.
And that's the thing, Ocho, that guy back there,
he back there, pretty back there doing this.
Man, chilling.
Man, listen, I saw a few times.
He dropped back, looked at his first target, his primary target.
He went one, went to two, went the three and came all the way back,
it was still patting the ball. Yes. Yes.
Man, what he Johnson should be on the phone right now. That song, reddit,
his agent, I don't know what his agent is. Let's see.
They need to, they got to get something done. But the 49ers look really,
really good tonight. They ran the football, Mason.
Nobody had ever heard of this kid.
Yeah, just like nobody had ever heard of Terrell Davis.
Nobody had ever heard of
Orlando's Gary or Mike Anderson.
Those guys, Ruben Jones.
And as a matter of fact, Ruben Jones got cut in Detroit.
As a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, they might have cut it.
They might have. I think he said they cut him on September 9.
11. I think that's what I think. I think he said they cut him on 9-11.
I think that's what he said.
Damn.
But this kid ran the ball exceptionally well.
And you see the dimension that Deebo brings.
You can hand it to him in the backfield.
You can pitch it to him.
You can swing it to him.
He can get downfield.
You see him catch a pass, spin up out of the tackle,
get an addition, additional. The one thing, the one thing that you must be able to do in this offense,
you rack, you got to run after the catch Ocho because a lot of stuff is, a lot of stuff is
shallow. You cut it a lot of bubble screens, you catch it a lot of shallow crosses. You're not,
I mean, they'll push the ball down the field occasionally, but you've got to be able to run
after the catch. That's what makes it so unique. That's what makes this offense so good. You take a five-yard route
and you turn into a 25 or 50-yard spectacular. I got a question. Yes. How big is Deebo Samuels?
You seen him in person before? I have. How the hell he be playing running back like that?
Like I'm talking about this is a routine. He built like a running Like I'm talking about this is like a running back.
He what? He built like a running back from way down.
You know, like like running backs normally they're like from waist down.
Like like like Malik neighbors.
If you look at Manique Labors, he's not elongated.
He's not long and lanky like a lot of receivers are.
You look at Garrett Wilson, you look at a lobby, you look at a lot of these
receiver that's six foot, he's compact.
And if you look at his frame,
you can, it explains why he runs out of a lot of tackles,
why he's so physical,
and how you think he got the name Deebo?
Okay, okay, okay.
Hey, I'm looking like, man, he really,
he really, I'm talking about out the backfield,
stretch, dive. Yes.
Yes. Can you imagine Debo playing during our era
with Ray Lewis and Erlich and all them talking about coming down here through the
A-Gap? That break, man.
Yeah, all right.
And I was amazed.
I'm like, damn. And then he's strong.
The first person to tackle him or at the point of contact, he never falls.
You know, you got you got a break.
You got a break.
Your legs with you to get him down and
normally is going to take more than a single individual unless you know, you
talk about a D tackle, you talk about a linebacker, but safety is in corners.
You got the handful trying to bring Deebo down.
Man, that's crazy. And he runs with such physicality.
You know, he runs angry, he runs like Tio,
he runs like Julio.
My brother used to play like that.
Anquan Bowden played like that.
Like that, yeah.
Physical guys, now Tio and Julio were tall.
My brother was like six foot tall.
Q was like six foot tall, but they were built like running backs.
Yeah. And so they tried to run through you and they'll fit.
They were physical and they played the game physical.
Oh, Joe Brock, pretty pass distribution.
Jennings had five catches.
Debo five catches. Kittle five catches.
You shake two catches.
Are you two catches? he had two drops also.
One catch, amazing one catch.
Mistake, free performance.
I mean, think about it, he had like three or four drops,
Ocho.
So this could have been a 22 or 23 or 29
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Did you and I were talking about this earlier by you I just
Like guys like man, I don't need no training I need a training camp and I wanted to play in the preseason idea now everybody hey
The guys now I get it now guys, you know
They do OTAs and they do all the stuff and they catch, but I needed to be in the game and I need to
get my eyes to refocus on playing, playing through contact, playing under,
picking up the ball.
Cause I'm trying to pick up the ball out of the quarterback's hand, trying to
make sure I snap my head around because I don't want to get lazy with my head.
I don't want to get lazy with my eyes.
I don't want to get lazy with my hands.
People think you catch with your hands, you catch with your eyes and you don't want to get lazy with my eyes. I don't want to get lazy with my hands. People think you catch with your hands, you catch with your eyes.
And you don't want to get lazy with them.
And a lot of times, you know, it takes you a while to get back into the rhythm
of things, Lucho, and get my spidey senses.
I need my spidey senses to tingly like, OK, this is the coverage.
OK, this is where danger is to know that, to feel that, to be able to sense that.
I needed it. Now, clearly, these guys say, well, I don't need it
or they don't want it or maybe the owners
and don't want to run the risk of getting players hurt.
But hell, you playing an inherently dangerous game.
Yeah. Oh, man, I don't want to have no accident.
But you drive every day 30 miles.
I mean, how?
Unless you teleport yourself there, there's a chance you're going to have an accident.
And it might not even be your fault.
Yeah. I mean, listen, you can't even play the game of football with that type of mentality.
You just can't because what's for you is for you and what's going to happen to you is going to happen to you no matter what you do.
No matter how cautious you are. I mean, just just go out there and play.
You go out there and play. That's it. That's it.
And the only reason Brandon dropped the damn ball is I'm telling you,
like you said, I'm Spidey senses getting acclimated,
not only to game tempo, but having someone pulling and tugging on you
and being able to being able to track the ball through arms,
through just all all type of stuff, the lights, just all that comes into account.
And that's what the preseason does for you.
If you look at the Ocho, when the ball, what'd he do?
When the ball hit his head, he closed his eyes.
I've never seen that before.
Normally guys, normally you track the ball, Ocho.
I'm tracking, I'm tracking.
Yeah, and look at it. I look it in.
You know, if I lay out for the ball, I'm tracking, I'm tracking. Yeah, look at it. You know, if I lay out for the ball.
I look it in, he closed his eyes.
I'm like, well, damn, that's that's new. Yeah.
But a pretty through that ball perfect.
I mean, he couldn't throw it.
He basically walked it to it.
You can't throw you can't throw a better path.
You can't throw a better ball
than what pretty put the ball in our youth hand.
And I you keep dropping, I'm sure he'd love to have that one back.
Jeff Holdout, Hassan Reddick, will forfeit a game check of nearly 800000
for missing tonight's regular season open against the 49ers
and an additional 800000 for each of the games he subsequently misses.
This is on top of the five million NFL mandated
fine that he's already accumulated. So he got no choice but to stay out. he subsequently misses. This is on top of the 5 million NFL mandated fine
that he's already accumulated.
So he ain't got no choice but to stay out.
Cause if he comes back,
he's already accumulated $5 million fine
that the Jets can't forgive.
You remember Ocho in the old days,
they can tease him like,
okay, I'm gonna forgive those fines.
Come on in, we'll get the contract done.
Only if you're a rookie,
can they forgive on a rookie contract, can they forgive those fines. Come on in, we'll get the contract done. Only if you're a rookie, can they forget on a rookie contract,
can they forgive those fines.
So damn, now he like, bro, I'm about to go ahead
and sit this one down, cause.
Well, so hold on.
How do you rectify this situation, man?
So really that five million already gone.
You might as well just chalk that up.
Right that up.
So if I'm looking at it correctly,
so he's making eight, so he's like almost 800,000
So let's just say 800,000 a game times 10. That's 8 million dollars, right?
So plus we factor in another seven games and 800,000. That's 56, right? So that's he's making up so he's on
about
15.6 million. Hmm if we do it if we do it 800,000, so now take this out
Oh Joe six million if we do it if we do it 800,000. So now take this out, Ocho.
I've got to come in at half the season and play for free.
Or I don't get credit for the credit of the season.
So I got to play half the game.
So I did it. I did this thing.
But if he comes in, Ocho, he planned for free.
Yeah. Well, by the time he gets the game, that's six hundred and forty thousand.
Right. No, hell no.640,000. Right.
No, hell no, that's 6.4 million.
Hey, listen, I mean, he...
For five million, so that's 11.4 million.
So he damn near playing for free.
Some got to give.
Somebody, some got to give.
Can they cut him and allow somebody else to pick him up?
Hell nah, they don't give a drape, they can.
Sure you could, but you gave him a drape pick to get it.
Well if you gave him a drape pick to get him, what the, I mean, you know what, see, this,
this, this, this, this the part.
But again, owners don't want to set a precedent.
You think you're going to bully us in the pan, you?
Nah, you sit there because
we don't land our pockets either way. We're going to be good anyway.
But then, you know, sometimes the thing, oh, joke again, stand on business,
even if I don't even if I don't open the stadium, right, even if I don't say no,
not one fan show up. Yeah.
don't open the stadium, right?
Even if I don't say no, not one fan show up.
Yeah. The end of the TV deal is going to pay me three hundred million of rip.
Now, OK, I the games I put seventy five, eighty thousand concession.
I got parking. I got merchandise.
I got local TV. Right.
And I got advertisers and sponsors. So.
It's a dirty game, but.
It's a dirty game. So if I, if I get 300 million on Joe, if I get 300 million
and the salary cap is what? 275, 255, that's 45 million.
I'm clear. That's if I don't sell no merchandise.
That's if I don't do it.
Nobody comes to my game. That's if I don't get local broadcasted. That's if I don't sell no merchandise. That's if I don't do it. Nobody comes to my game. That's if I don't get local broadcasted.
That's if I don't get any local sponsors.
You know, somebody that stadium named after somebody Mercedes Benz or FedEx or whatever
the case may be.
Somebody's paying somewhere between 10 and $25 million a year to put their name on your
stadium.
Yeah.
And you got the local affiliate that's paying money.
And here's the kicker, Ocho, what people don't realize.
Let me help y'all do some games.
Do y'all realize that every time a network,
every time ESPN shows a clip, they had to pay for that.
On top of the 2.5, 2.7 billion that they already paid,
anytime they show a clip of anything NFL,
the NBA is the same thing, MLB is the same way. Do you know
they got to pay for that? And it ain't cheap. No. Listen to what I'm saying. Fox pays about
$1.9 billion. ESPN pays about 2.2. CBS the same thing. So now I've already paid that
if when they show highlights, like when I come on with Stephen A
and we show a highlight and somebody scored a touchdown or somebody getting a pick six,
the network has to pay extra just to show those highlights.
That's why we can't show you the highlights.
We love to. But I'll be working for free.
Oh, so and I be working for free. So dirty game.
So the NFL, if you notice NFL, don't write a whole lot of checks.
The NFL, like the R.S., they have money coming in.
They don't really have a whole lot going out.
Always collected. So.
Yeah. And I look, I got a
a lot of what I mean, I put my kids through college. I just care my family because the NFL and I'm I don't got the a a lot of what I mean I put my kids through college
I took care of my family cuz the NFL and I'm not trying to look I'm not trying to damp her
I'm just trying to enlighten you enlighten the fans or let them know how this thing work
Yeah, I mean we would love to show we would oh Joe
And I would love to show you highlights so we can break it down and say this is what happens
but I
Think is how much is how I think it's how much,
how much you did for like 11 minutes?
Like, it's like, I think like, probably like,
for one minute, one minute is six figures.
One minute, one minute is six figures. One minute.
So if we showed you, if we showed you three highlights
and they ran a minute, it's already in the six figures.
That's week one.
How many highlights does ESPN show?
How many highlights does your local affiliate show?
Woo!
Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, I'm sorry, guys. You could just have to take Ocho and I talking about
it, because we ain't going to show you the highlights. We ain't never going to be in
no position where we can show you highlights, because we ain't got it like that. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Don't say that now.
You never know.
No, but they watch the game, little Joe.
That's useless money.
We're not finna spend $20 million to show some highlights.
We're not.
I'm sure we'd rather have that money in our pockets.
Hey, okay.
I like how I can hear that.
I'm just for some odd forsaken reason.
Let's say I hit the goddamn lotto or the Megan Mans.
And I get some absurd amount of cash.
I wouldn't even let you do it.
I mean, I think the people would like it though.
No, Ocho, the people, the people like us for what we are,
how we do things.
We're not, we're not a highlight show.
I mean, sure, I would, we would love to, but it really
doesn't make sense for us. And if it doesn't make dollars, it doesn't make sense. And so let's be,
we go be. You told me we need to think big, right? So I'm thinking big. We could actually ESPN and be their competitor. Huh? Not coming on, not coming on two nights, not coming on four nights a week, two hours a
night, we challenge no ESPN.
Hell nah.
Nah, nah, ay, nah, you know, ay, tell it. I mean, hell, God, we
we get it when we get it. Yeah.
Hey, man, what what? Yeah. The
hell if I know.
Hell, hell, I might be with you,
Ocho. Let me win a billion
dollars. Hell, I might be late
too. I might be late too. I might be late too. I might be late too. I might be with you, Ocho.
Let me win a billion dollars.
Hell, I might be late too.
Bad, please.
Uh-uh.
Yeah, Bad.
Ocho, check this out.
According to Next next gen stats,
Trent Williams did not allow a single pressure tonight in 33
pass blocking attempts.
I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it.
I'm not gonna do it.
I'm not gonna do it.
I'm not gonna do it.
I'm not gonna do it.
I'm not gonna do it.
I'm not gonna do it.
I'm not gonna do it.
I'm not gonna do it.
I'm not gonna do it.
I'm not gonna do it. Yeah, I'm locked in. Let's go
Let go of that you win the lottery lock it in
And don't tell it where you were real go be bad, please. Oh you fool it I
Promise you if I win a lottery, I'm gonna be on time
You say a hundred thousand for a minute. I say six figure. I ain't just say 100,000.
You start, I don't know why you put that figure there.
Oh shit.
That was funny.
But this is why, when he held out and says, I'm not coming,
this is why you pay Big Trent.
They understood.
He's the best lineman in football.
Yeah.
And you could always rip Rodney.
You could always slide the protection away
and say Trent, you got the best.
Yeah.
That's a great luxury to have.
I played with two guys.
I played with Gary Zimmerman, left tackle.
He was a two time all decade, eighties and nineties.
I played with Jonathan Ogdenden six foot eight and a half
345 pounds. No, we always find away from jail jail. You got whoever you got
Uh, it's a great luxury to have you don't have to ask nobody to chip
You ain't got to ask nobody to a chip your way out. You ain't got to leave the tight end in
You ain't got to ask nobody to chip your way out. You ain't got to leave the tight end in.
Trent lock it down.
Every time.
He gonna lock it down.
He's an unbeliever.
He's going to the hall of fame.
He's gonna be a first ballot.
He's that good.
And if I'm not mistaken, hell, he and Big Lane Johnson
was on the same team at Oklahoma.
Lane Johnson, Philadelphia Lane Johnson was on the same team at Oklahoma. Lane Johnson, Philadelphia, Lane Johnson.
And hold on, AP was on that team too.
I think it was him, AP, Sam Bradford might have been a freshman.
The quarterback?
No wonder AP was running like that, man.
I think AP was don't know what would be Trent and and
because we're trying to win top like top three top four and Lane was right behind
it
Trent Lane came out in the same draft didn't I'm almost certain here Lane came
out in the same draft, didn't he? I'm almost certain here Lane came out in the same draft.
All right. Thanks.
Yes.
Look at that up, but I'm almost certain Ocho,
that Lane and Trent came out in the same draft.
And AP, I think AP might've left a year before they did.
Hell, he might've been there with him.
Late.
2013.
So who came up?
It was like, they had two, like,
who came out with what other,
oh, Sam Bradford came out.
Sam Bradford was the first overall pick.
T-Dub was the third overall pick.
That's what it was.
Okay.
Fourth overall pick and AP was on that team.
Wasn't AP with Trent?
Yes.
Yes.
AP not Lane.
Lane was after Big Trent, but AP, Sam Bradford and Trent was on the same team.
Hey, but I'm boy.
We're good.
Yeah.
I mean, think about it.
Just like, uh, who was it?
Matthew Stafford, AJ green and no sharp Marino was on the same team.
And then when the SEC wait, wait, who was AJ Green quarterback of Georgia?
Matthew Stafford.
Deadass?
I didn't know that.
No Strymerino, bro.
He was nice.
He was nice.
Ocho, we have the body cam footage from Tyreex detainment was released earlier
Let's watch this in its entirety
We're gonna look at the Tyreex video. We're gonna have Kalei's camels
Talking and then you and I will address it after that
We're gonna watch the video in its entirety so you can see how it unfolded and then we'll give our synopsis of what we thought
What we think happened. Get in your car and leave. I'm giving you an order to get out of here. Hey, hey, come here.
I told you, Vy.
Nope, too late.
How about I move the car?
Nope, too late. I told you.
I'll move the car.
Move the car, sir, please. Please move the car.
The car has to hang out for a minute now.
Hey, what's the reference?
What's the reference?
Yeah, careless? Because he was speeding too fast? I'm watered in. Hold the car.
How are you, John? Why don't you have your seatbelt on?
Why don't you have your seatbelt on?
Like what?
Why don't you hold it up?
It's tight. Wait a little bit. Hey, keep your window down.
Hey, keep your window down.
Keep your window down, I'm going to get you out of the car.
As a matter of fact, get out of the car.
Give me your ass.
Get out of the car.
Give me your ass, or I'll break that freaking window.
Get out of the car.
Get out of the car right now.
We're not playing this game.
Get out.
Get out.
Get out.
Get out.
Get out. Get out. We're part of that with you playing this game. Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out.
Get out.
Get out.
What part of violence you understand?
Hey, Drew.
Hey, Drew.
I'm getting arrested, Drew.
I'm getting arrested.
I'm getting arrested, Drew.
I'm getting out, bro.
God damn, Tweed.
When we tell you to do something, you do it.
You understand?
I'm getting out.
You understand?
Not what you want, but what we tell you.
I'm getting up.
You're a little fucking confused.
I'm getting out, bro.
Too late.
Too late.
All right, bro.
Take me to jail, bro.
Do what you got to do, bro.
We are.
We will.
Good.
Good, bro.
It is good.
Hey, don't worry about it.
I hung up the phone.
Stop crying.
Bro.
Y'all.
Don't move.
Good.
Bro, you beating up my window like you crazy.
Just set him up.
Why y'all beating on my window like y'all crazy, bro?
Damn, yo, yo, yo.
Bro.
What's going on?
Bro, yo, bro, dude, beating on my window like you crazy.
I ain't do nothing to him.
Damn.
I don't wanna do nothing to him.
Hey, don't park there.
Don't park there.
Hey.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on, bro.
I just had surgery on my knee.
I just had surgery on my knee, bro.
I just had surgery on my knee, bro.
I just had surgery on your ears when we go there.
Bro, chill, bro.
Chill, bro.
Hey, don't move, bro.
Back up.
Hey, call Drew.
Call Drew.
Call Drew.
Call Drew.
Call Drew.
Call Drew.
Call Drew.
Call Drew. Call Drew. Call Drew in your ears when we go. Oh, chill, bro. Chill, bro. Hey, don't do, bro.
Back up.
Call Drew.
Call Drew.
Call Drew.
Call Drew.
Call Drew.
Hey, call Drew.
Call Drew, bro.
Call Drew.
Call Drew.
Hey, call Drew, bro.
Hey, what?
Hey, call Drew, bro.
Just call Drew.
Hey.
I'm not doing anything.
I'm not doing nothing. I'm not doing nothing. What am I doing in this room? Hey, listen. Listen. Listen. Hey, hey, listen, listen.
Hey, hey, listen.
Hey, man, they got Tyreek.
The cops over here beating on them.
They over here beating on Tyreek, man.
Listen, listen, man.
Don't park there, man.
Just get in the car.
Hey, hey, Drew, you gotta come, man.
Just get in the car.
Right up the side, on the side of the aisle.
Hey, get in the car.
You're parked in the middle of the street. I'm in the car. You gotta go before you get out of the oil. Hey, get in the car. You're parked at the bit of the street.
I'm in the car.
You gotta go before you get a ticket.
I don't.
I'm not.
I'm not driving.
Who's the driver?
This is my car.
All right, move.
You gotta move right now.
Let me have your license.
You're gonna have a ticket, too.
Let me have your license.
You're gonna have a ticket.
Let me have your license.
I'm leaving.
I'm not playing.
Let me have your license.
I'm leaving.
Yo, what's going on?
Your license right now.
Yo, what's going on, man?
Your license right now.
You're not gonna give me your license? Hey. Get in the car and leave. You're not gonna give me your license?
Let me have your license.
Your license right now.
Your license right now.
Your license right now.
Your license right now.
Your license right now.
Your license right now.
Man, man.
That was the entire.
Body cam footage of the the arrest.
You hear him say they knew who it was.
It was Tyreek Hill.
He later said that he was he was speeding and and
it kind of escalated, escalated from there.
It appears to me, Ocho, and I could be wrong.
You tell me what you're thinking.
Is that they asked for it.
They asked him to roll the windows down.
He rolled the window down just enough that gets to give him his driver's
license and registration.
That's all he's required to do.
He doesn't have to roll it all the way down just so the officer can have visual
contact with him.
He gave him his driver's license and his registration, and he rolls the windows back up.
Back up, yeah.
It's tough because he knows who he is, Ocho,
because he knows who that is.
He knows that's Tyreek.
We hear him say they know that's Tyreek Hill.
Yeah.
He knows who that is. He knows that's Tyreke.
We hear him say they know that's Tyreke Hill.
Yeah.
The officer is like wants to remain.
I want to have visual contact with you, Ocho.
OK, we talking. I got visual contact.
You got your window down enough where I can see you.
Now, it looks like I could be wrong,
but it looks like he has 10 of the tinted windows.
Yeah, they tinted. Yeah.
In Miami, you know, we allowed the tent.
And so it looks like I guess the officer is taken to account that's 10 of the tenant windows. Yeah, they tenant. Yeah. And Miami, you know, we allowed the tent.
And so it looks like, I guess the officer
is taken into account because you have to understand
the officer is taken into account.
He rolls the window back up.
Now I no longer have visual contact with him.
You see.
So, okay.
Take it from there and then I'm gonna piggyback off of you.
Go ahead.
I mean, when it first started,
obviously license registration, roll your window down.
Tyreek upset about them knocking on the window.
Obviously aggressively in an aggressive manner.
But when the cop initially walked over,
if I'm not mistaken,
I saw Tyreek hand him the driver's license.
So at that point, Tyreekke rolled the window back up.
Now, as an officer, I understand that it is Tyreke Hill, but I don't think any,
I don't think a civilian, if civilians don't get any grace,
then I don't think they're going to give Tyreke Hill any grace to allow him to roll his window
back up to where he can't have any visual contact with you.
Visual contact, even though Tyreke isn't a threat in this manner.
I'm assuming have to always stick the protocol regards to who the person is.
Right.
But I would I would have I would have like my dog.
Understand, you got a game.
You know how authority is already, you know, how cops are in general,
with all the situations that have gone on countless years back to back to back to back to back.
Just this one time.
You know, I got a game to play, bro.
Here's my here's my license, my registration.
Get your ticket and go about your business.
Get your ticket and go about your business.
Let's lock in on the game.
You feel me? But but but.
Cooler heads didn't prevail.
Then, you know, your teammates getting into it, you know, obviously rightfully so.
But hell, if I was a teammate, I would, you know, I pull my black ass over.
What's the problem?
I've been in that situation.
Like I said, we got into a brawl and my teammates and they're telling us to back up
because at that point in time time police got to make instant.
They got to make splits.
Yes.
They got to do something.
They're like, oh, see, you have the luxury of sitting back here watching it.
But imagine how his antenna goes up when he's there.
Yes.
And we assume, like I said, he doesn't have that luxury.
Once I lose contact with you, I don't know if you go into the glove box.
I don't know if you go into the middle box.
I don't know anything. I want to maintain visual contact with you. That's. I don't know if you go into the glove box. I don't know if you go into the middle box. I don't know anything.
I want to maintain visual contact with you.
That's why I said, you heard what I said last night
and you heard me say it many, many years ago.
My job, once I get pulled over
and the police have made contact with me,
my job is to get him to my car,
back to his police car or his motorcycle
and on his way as quickly as I
possibly can, I know the longer he remains there, the greater the chances for something
to escalate. Yeah.
So that's what I'm saying.
It's like, look, and think about this.
And I want people in the chat.
I want you to understand what I'm talking about.
Think about how people hate on you and they don't have any power.
Do you realize when that man or that female pull you over side the road,
they got all the power with the gun, with the badge.
I'm not arguing with you. I can't, I, you're, you're, you're, you're the lawyer. You the judge, you everything. I would take my chances in court,
but I'm going to take my chances in court as a live person.
I don't want my family trying to defend what transpired.
Now, I need to be there to tell the story.
Not you tell it.
Now, I knew what was gonna happen.
I knew this day we're gonna say,
we asked him to roll down the window
and he was defiant in rolling down his window
in a timely manner.
I knew that was coming though, Joe.
I knew that was coming though Joe. Yeah.
I knew that was coming.
You know that, I know that.
That's why I get, I'm feeding, hey, it's happened.
I rolled down my window.
When he comes, I got it waiting on him.
Yeah.
Hey, you ain't gotta ask me
cause it's right over my visor.
I got my driver's license in my bag.
I got the insurance right there.
There it is right there.
It even had to go to that though. You talk about abuse of power, you know, even as officers of the
law, understanding who the individual is, understanding that the individual is no threat. There's a game.
He was speaking. I don't think he was late. He couldn't be late. No, he wasn't late because
we had Kaleus on the day, Ocho. We Kaleo's on the day. He said it was around.
They have to be that they had to be there by level because
the game is at 105 2 hours before the game. He said it was
around 1018 1020 something like that. So he had a good two
and a half two hours and 3245 and the stadium is a block away.
And that's unfortunate, man.
A little aggressive, though, for me, too.
Oh, for sure.
And listen, a little too aggressive.
I wish there was a cop there that could de escalate the situation a little bit,
a little bit better, you know, to allow cooler hair to prevail.
Just a little too aggressive and abusive of the power that they did have
to put behind the back and put the knee in the back and like, come on, come on, come on now.
Come on, man.
You know, but. It's unfortunate.
Oh, Joe, it's how it is.
Most think about it.
If there's a pack of dog and one of them bite,
all of a sudden, the other would join in.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
You when you when you were in school, the bullet.
And once they started picking on somebody,
then everybody started picking on them. Yeah. The officers are just the same.
Once they want to get aggressive, the other fields in boredom and he gets a
little bit more aggressive instead of trying to deescalate the situation.
Hey, Mr. Hill, we understand. We understand you're frustrated. We got a game.
Just let us do our job and we'll get you on your way. We'll issue you a citation
Hey, hey, the dates gonna be on there. You can fight it in court
Move on that's what you would have liked to happen, but it seems like once like well, hello
I can't let you get all this aggression out on him. Let me get some I get on the ground you heard what I said
Yeah, I
Mean
and You heard what I said? Yeah. I mean, and we've seen this so many times and the outcome
and most of the other situations were much different.
They were much different.
So I'm glad you don't understand why they put a knee on his back.
I don't understand. I don't understand.
He wasn't struggling.
I mean, people don't understand.
Lay on your stomach and put your hand behind the back
and see how you feel because that's an unnatural position. Because your diaphragm needs to go
up and down. That's why it's hard for you to breathe when you're on your stuff. Now think
about it. Now you sleep like this here, but just imagine putting your hands behind your
back and now you compressing the diaphragm. Tyree wasn't he wasn't he wasn't struggling.
He didn't give them any reason once they got him out the car
to take the stance in which they took.
Yeah. But it was like a situation, Ocho.
Man, you don't make me open this.
Man, you don't make me open it.
Don't get your ass out of this car.
Yo, you know, hey, you're right.
They were they was frustrated.
They was frustrated.
They was frustrated. You know, yeah,, right. They were they was frustrated. They was frustrated. They was frustrated.
You know, yeah.
When he rolled when he rolled the window back up.
Yeah. Oh, he was on one day.
He's on the door.
It was open in you.
You wrote you wrote a window up in my face.
But then you wrote a window.
OK, I got some fun.
Yeah. He had his license already.
So that there was there was nothing else to really talk about except go to your motorcycle and run.
You already knew who it was.
You already heard you heard him say that Tyree Hill.
Yeah, you heard him in the video say that.
Yeah, I just wish Tyree let this be a lesson learned.
Let this anybody that's watching, let this be a lesson learned.
Yeah, I understand.
Nobody likes being stopped, especially when you're in a hurry
or you don't feel you're doing anything wrong.
But take it to court.
I've gotten stopped.
I didn't believe I was speeding.
I said, my man.
You know, and you know how to.
I said to myself, I'll see you in court.
Right.
You know how to.
I said, I was, did you all say, well, Mr. Sharp?
I said, I wasn't speeding. Right. I said, he said I was the judge say, well, Mr. Sharp, I said I wasn't speeding. Right. I said he didn't tell me how fast I was
going. He just said I was traveling faster than him. Well, how fast was he
going? Just because I'm going faster than you, that don't mean I'm speed.
That's a good one. That's what he told me. Oh, Joe. I said, OK, I'm going to
court. I have been I have been spent all my time side the road with you,
all that talking and going back and forth.
I'm gonna keep my mouth closed.
I will tell my side of the story.
Nobody's gonna tell Shannon Sharpe
or what they think happened or what they surmised happened.
I am going to tell my story.
I'm going home to my kids.
Yeah, I'm going home.
So let this, hey, what what you want to happen
when the police comes and they'll come to they pull you up for speeding
or any moving violation.
Your job is to get them to your car back to their car.
As quick as possible.
Yeah, a little talking as possible.
Because I don't want anything.
I don't want you to think that I'm
trying to be because if you ask me
how fast I was going, I say, no, I
do not. I wasn't watching.
He don't think I got smart with
him. Now he's all, oh, you want to
get smart. You're up and you know
what? Yeah.
You think because you on TV, you
think because you got millions, you
you better than me and you could
talk to me. So no, I don't know
how fast I was going.
Oh, OK, I'm sorry. I didn't know I was going that fast, officer.
All right. Sit right here. Sure. We'll lead a window down to
I sure do. And in a court of public opinion, you know, people are going to choose their sides.
Yeah. So think is right. Who they think is wrong. I just,
on my end, you know, I am.
I don't play with the law.
Yeah, I don't want I don't want no party.
I don't want no part of that at all.
I want to get home to my kids, bro.
That's it. I'm going to get home to my kids.
Oh, I can't afford no more mistakes.
I had a situation that was the fourth of July.
But you ain't hear me, though. You what you oh, no, no, dude. You're right. Yeah
Let me take a glass. Let me take my glasses off real so the check to see my ass, but I can't afford no more mistakes
No, okay, no chances after this
Shit, man. I man can't get not you can't get knocked down and get up again. Not not at the age
We are oh Joe in our 20s
We got you know, we got the rest of our 20s.
We got into our 30s.
But at this juncture, where we are now.
Oh, Joe, I was at the it was a fourth.
It was this was a while ago.
This had to be almost 20 years ago.
Yes, me, Buckethead, my homeboy, Big Cow.
So met this met the other chick and, uh,
and I hit her up cause we were out and she said, well, I met
such and such. Won't you come by? I was like, well, I'll
tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna come by. I'm not going to
come in, but I'll call you once I get outside. Okay. She came
and a girlfriend came, you know, nice, nice looking, you know,
nice looking, nice, you know, you know, you don't say it.
Okay. They die. Yeah. know what I'm saying, they nice.
Until I think like Oracle glasses until I think like, you know,
like red felt glasses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like snake eye. Yeah. They think like, yeah, they think like Oracle. Yeah. And so she came outside and we was talking, you know,
she had a little man, skirt on, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, you need to move. I was talking, you know, he had a little man, he's good on blah, blah, blah. And he's like, you need to move.
I was like, OK, so we move further down. Right.
One of the guys said, and I was like, OK, I move further down.
Oh, now you can't stand it.
One of the guys, one of the police officer says, no, that's Shannon Sharp.
He could let you stay there.
No, I told him to move.
Oh, I said, hey, maybe I'll holler at you later. Okay. All right. Boom. I left.
You see he already owned one. Right. Right. Right. He mad.
Cause I got something that he won't. She talking to me.
She wouldn't give him the time today. I know that he know that.
So he feeling one. Right. right once he say once he said I
said move that told me right there that he had rank mm-hmm I'm up out of there
I'm good you know they gonna abuse that little power I'm good bro I'm good saw
later that night though you can't stop me! You can't stop progress!
Progress must progress!
Yes.
Come on now.
They ain't gonna hate me ass.
Ocho, ocho, ocho.
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and battery while on a date October 2020.
The new civil suit claims Watson exposed himself, requested a massage, and sexually assaulted
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Ocho, what is your take on these new allegations?
I don't want to say the wrong one. I don't want to say the wrong thing. I don't want to say the wrong thing.
I don't want to say the wrong thing.
Obviously, obviously, you know, it's.
It's tough. There's certain things
that I should stay away from that you're better suited to answer.
You know, so I'm going to let you take that one.
Look, I think if not mistaken,
Oh, Joe, all of this happened in a finite period of time.
There was a period of time in which he was in Houston.
And from what a lot of the women alleged, they were, you know, he would reach out
through IG or whatever the case may be.
He would request a massage and things happen.
And I guess some happen against their will.
Yes, that's what they're alleging.
And I think not could be wrong, but this is around this time that all of these happen.
So I would ask when I read it today, I was like, OK, 20, 20.
So I don't think this is anything new.
This was around that time when all the women, this was 22, 23.
I was like, damn, the Sean, bro, you was in a situation back in 2020.
Right. And you put yourself back in this situation.
It's kind of like what that lady remember, they did the document of OJ.
Yeah. And the lady said, we got you off the first time you went back and did it again. You own your talk. You own your own Jack.
And he did with the piece out.
So I was like, the Sean, you put yourself back in this situation.
But I think it was it was it was probably during that time.
And this one is kind of like a drip drip leak leak coming out.
Right. Right.
Dang. Very, very, very.
It's very, very. It's just tough, man.
It's just tough because, you know, you have you have daughters.
I have daughters. I don't know if have you have daughters. I have daughters.
I don't know if you have any sisters.
I have sisters. Yeah.
And we take we take we take this stuff.
And that's why, you know, I didn't want I was I remember when I was at Fox
and this first came out and I didn't want to be I didn't want to jump to no
no conclusion one way or another. Yeah.
Because you're going to offend someone.
Somebody don't believe them.
You don't believe the women.
But then you jump to the conclusion and
you automatically offend guys that have been wrongly accused.
And I've been one of those guys that have been wrongly accused.
And so I know what it's like to have those eyes looking at you.
Right.
But that's why I was reluctant.
Really, really, really to comment, really to say, because I don't know
who I might offend. I don't want to say the wrong thing that I have.
You're better suited.
You're a little bit more polished when it comes to things that are very uncomfortable
for me to explain and be able to express, you know, whether right
or wrong or indifferent.
I just I did. There's certain things I want to to touch those type of topics when it comes to race,
religion.
And politics, you know, I'm, I'm that is, it's a, it's no win.
There's no loss.
It's just a continuing ongoing session of he say, she say, right.
I think, um, this situation Then this is the end. I think
this situation will be like the rest of them.
I think everybody deserves to have their day in court.
Everybody deserves to be heard and, you know.
Men and women of his peers, yes, if it gets that far.
But it's just to continuation, it seems like it's that far. But it's just a continuation.
It seems like it's never ending.
It seems like it's a Groundhog Day or a bad.
I'm sure it's a bad dream for him.
You know, he just lost his father.
I didn't know that.
And he said I was reading today where he said the team gave him a choice.
Either, you know, he could go and be with his family or he could play in the game and he chose to play to be with his
brothers. Um, I think a lot of people probably would have done that. I
remember when Brett far lost his father the night before and he played probably
his arguably one of his best games of his career. I think a lot of guys would
probably do that some, um, and I wouldn't hold that against them if they chose to
be with family at a time like this. I certainly would understand it. Um, but, uh,
I'm sure for the Sean, he just feel like, man, when would this ever end? Um,
and, uh, I just hope that, uh, you know,
everybody finds resolution and everybody's there to, to, to,
I don't think you ever, I don't think if you're a man or a woman involved in
this, I don't think it ever, it ever goes away. I don't think you ever I don't think if you're a man or woman involved in this I don't think it ever goes away I don't think you let get over it I don't think
you get over it.
Now, it replays in your head, like a loop.
But we'll see what happens down the road if if something comes over, maybe it's a there's
a settlement.
Maybe you know the judge is taught. I don't know. And like you said, all we know is that there were charges filed saying that alleging that
this is what transpired.
So we'll see.
Once it, uh, the internet, the internet speculating that the Browns leaked this info to get out
of the contract.
I don't, I don't think they can because it's something that's
ex post facto. It didn't happen after he signed the contract. This happened before he signed the
contract. So it's almost like, and I hate to use the term grandfather because it's something that
happened before the contract was signed, don't you? Yeah. So it's like, I can be in an apartment
and I get a, and you don't have a, you don't have an ordinance that says I can't have a mini horse when I go get a mini horse and you say well moving forward nobody can have a mini horse.
Well I'm grandfather, because I had the mini horse before you set the ordinance. Right. So in this situation that could be wrong there's I'm sure some lawyers would like to jump on here. But, um, um, it says here, the full paragraph of, uh,
paragraph 42 players here about. Did Watson disclose this specific potential claim to the
Browns in writing before he signed the contract? That's the key question. If he did, the lawsuit can't
activate paragraph 42. If he didn't, things get potentially complicated. But here's the thing.
What if he didn't know? What if he didn't know? I can see because a lot of these women had already put situations out there. If he doesn't know.
I mean.
That's the thing. This is this is not as cutting dry as the same Ocho. You can like we know it's
illegal to park by 500. It's illegal to park in front of a 500. You can say, well, I didn't know
a 500 is illegal to park in front of a 500.
You can say, well, I didn't know
they don't say ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
If I don't know that someone is going to
allege a claim against me, how can I tell you that something that I don't know?
That's I don't believe that's an ignorance
of the law as parking or running a red light or parking in front of a 500.
This is totally different. I don't know.
I don't know he could have known and not disclosed.
I don't know, but I'm just saying,
I don't know somebody might 20 years ago say,
you know what, this is what happened.
Huh?
Well, Shannon, we're going to have to void the contract.
Hell, I didn't know it happened.
I can't tell you something that I didn't know.
But this is a really tough situation, Ocho, because you dealing
we see the thing that happened in Hollywood and with this Me Too movement.
Now it's like people are not asking questions.
You're like you're guilty until proven innocent.
It used to be innocent until proven guilty.
Now you're guilty until proven innocent.
Right.
And that's a tough standard.
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