Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Wolves dominate Nuggets & Pat Riley rips Jimmy Butler

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” react to the Minnesota Timberwolves dominant win over the Denver Nuggets, the Knicks beating the Pacers, Pat Riley ripping Jimmy Butler for trolling the Celtics..., and much more! 02:50 - Show Starts04:50 - Wolves beat Nuggets15:08 - Knicks beat Pacers36:12 - Pat Riley rips Jimmy Butler46:07 - Wemby ROY50:24 - CBS ranks AFC54:15 - Cowboys EVP Stephen Jones on Dak59:17 - OBJ picks Dolphins over Chiefs and Bills (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:38 and deposit restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us again for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85, route runner extraordinaire. You know what?
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Starting point is 00:03:41 That's 85cigars.com slash shop. Ocho, let's jump right into it. Woo! Man, the Timberwood beat the brakes slash shop. That's 85 cigars.com slash shop. Yeah. Oh, let's jump right into it. Ooh, man. The Timberwood beat the brakes off the nuggets again.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Um, and they did it without Rudy go bear. They held the reigning champs to 80 points at home. Hell, Nicola Yoke, it's to 16 points and they blocked 12 shots, which is several more than a nuggets had five more steals than a nugget. And they head back home having took two games
Starting point is 00:04:07 from the Nuggets on the Nuggets home court. Jamal Murray is making money signs to the official, which will incur Rudy Gobert did that. It cost him $100,000. This might cost him a quarter of a million, and then he threw a hot pack on the floor to voice his frustration
Starting point is 00:04:23 as he was sitting on the bench. Right, right, right. Go back to the playoffs last year and even this year. No team has made the Nuggets look as bad as what the Wolves have made them look in the last two games. Rob Pelinka, you see the difference? Athleticism. Look at Jayden Daniels. Look at Anthony Edwards.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Look at Nikhil Walker-Alexander. Look at Carl Anthony Towns. Every loose ball to hit the floor. That's the difference. The Lakers are two loose balls away from winning two games. The one, they had a three-point lead. Aaron Gordon gets the loose ball over Alistair Reeves, kicks it out, a three ball. Again, Aaron Gordon gets the loose ball over Austin Reeves, kicks it out, a three-ball.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Again, Aaron Gordon gets the loose ball over LeBron James, D-Lo, three-ball to Jamar Murray. They're two loose balls away. You see how they're making Jamar Murray look? Three of 18 from the floor. Oh, a four from the three-point line. Nikola Jokic, they're challenging him. Five of 13.
Starting point is 00:05:24 He only got off 13 shots. 16 points, 16 rebounds, 10 assists. Not nearly, nearly enough. Not nearly enough. And four turnovers. The athleticism, the confidence that this series goes back to last year. Because even though the Nuggets beat them in five games, they felt that, like, man, we were in every ball game.
Starting point is 00:05:46 A play here, play there. We could have won those games where they're not making it a play here, a play there. This is the worst I've seen the Nuggets look in a playoff game in the last two years. Listen, it's like, it looked like a bunch of young kids, man. A bunch of young kids playing against the older group, and the
Starting point is 00:06:05 older group is not as fast anymore. They don't have youth on their side. Now, I'm saying they do have some young players obviously on the Nuggets, but I'm just saying how it looks from my point of view. And, dog, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:22 I'm not sure how to... If Ant-Man didn't have a crazy game, he didn't go out 30, 40-point game. But I think his energy, his energy in general has rubbed off on everybody else. His charismatic, what's the word I'm looking for? Personality. I mean, he exudes confidence. Confidence. And I think it's rubbed off
Starting point is 00:06:47 on everybody else. Everybody else has that confidence that, you know what, we really believe, hell, we could win this damn series too. Yes. We could win this series too. Yep.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I don't want to call, I don't want to call the Wolves the boogeyman, similar to like the boogeyman in a sense, because they really do believe we have a chance in this series. Now, you're a betting man. You probably know the odds as far as this series is
Starting point is 00:07:14 concerned. Who is a betting favorite to win this series? Be honest. The Nuggets were. Prime example on why I think they're playing the way they're playing and obviously there plays a little luck in it as well the balls paws are bouncing their way in certain situations as well as opposed to when the niggas play the lakers and the balls obviously towards the end of the game one went to eric and gordon murray hitting the shots at the end of the game
Starting point is 00:07:43 as opposed to this game. And obviously defense and hustle is why they scored. I mean, well, this might've been the lowest, the low, the lowest. Was it 80 points?
Starting point is 00:07:55 80 scored 80. That's the lowest they've had in what? How long? Man, look here. They had the most, they scored in any quarter was 25. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:04 They had two quarters in which they got 20 and another quarter in the second the most they scored in any quarter was 25 right two quarters in which they got 20 in another quarter in the second quarter they scored 15 it's hard to win game scoring 80 in today's game you're not going to win very many ball games 80 points in today's game normally teams have 80 to 85 by the third by the end of the third quarter that's all that's all hustle that's all hustle and want to all hustle and want to. All hustle, want to. And that feeling. And that feeling like, you know what? Y'all beat us before, but we were in every game.
Starting point is 00:08:37 This year, we ain't let nothing slip through our hands at all. And they taking advantage of the opportunities. They're making it very difficult. They're challenging everything. That's why you see a team that had 12 blocks. They're challenging everything. They're not it very difficult. They're challenging everything. That's why you see a team that had 12 blocks. They're challenging everything. They're not nothing, nothing easy. They're blocking Jokic's shot from the back.
Starting point is 00:08:52 They're not conceding anything. Carl Anthony Towns is making Jokic play through him. He can bother him. He's seven foot tall as is Jokic. But he's making it work on the other end. Although he's trying to guard Gordon. But they're doing a great job of moving the ball. They have a great point guard in Mike Conley. Whatever style of play that you want to run, he can run the pick and roll.
Starting point is 00:09:11 He can shoot the three. He can speed it up if he needs to. Slow it down. The difference is Ant-Man. They don't have an answer for Ant-Man. And then when Cat is doing what he's doing, he can pull your big out. He can post up Aaron Gordon. He's doing a great job on the glass.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Boy, the Nuggets are going to have to play the game of their lives. Yeah. When they go to Minnesota. Oh, they're going to get swept. Yeah. They got to play. Because the Wolves have made them look pedestrian. They've made them look ordinary.
Starting point is 00:09:43 And that's not to take anything away from the Nuggets. The Nuggets are a very good team. We know they're the reigning defending champ. They're going to have the MVP and Nikola Jokic. But the Wolves, they're Wolves. And they play like they're playing just like it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And that's what, see, Wolves are not the strongest, but most dogs hunting packs. That's a good one. wolves are not the strongest, but most dogs hunting packs. Packs. Yeah, that's a good one. They run until they pray get tired. He gets exhausted. You can only run so long.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Long. And it's like, okay, we just going to stay right here. And when you, hey, and when you stop, we're going to pounce. Timberwolves do an unbelievable job of that. And the Nuggets got their work cut out for them. They got their work cut out for them because, like I said, Jamar Murray keeps getting off to these slow starts. And the difference is they got guys that can defend him
Starting point is 00:10:33 and stay in front of him, unlike the Lakers didn't have anybody. You try Austin Reeves. You try D'Lo. You try Torian Prince. No. Nothing. But Ant-Man says, okay, I'll try him. Jaden Daniels says, hey, I'll try him. You're getting to kill Walker Alexander.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I'll try him. They can throw three different bodies at him. All brings different things to the table. But the Wolves, the team Wolves look unbelievable. And they did this. They held them to 35% shooting from the field. They held them to 30% from the three-point line. And only 72% from a free throw.
Starting point is 00:11:08 They only shot, what, 18 free throws. You can live with that. You're keeping them off the line. You got Jokic going 5 of 13, inefficient. Jamal Murray, 3 of 18. Michael Porter Jr., 4 of 12. KCP, 2 of 6. With those numbers, you can't beat.
Starting point is 00:11:27 It explains why you lost by 26 just looking at the numbers. Right. You think Michael Jones should have been injected for his outburst in the first half? Or was he right? Was he in his right to have? I'm surprised he didn't get a take. Okay. Or at least a take.
Starting point is 00:11:42 At least a take. Yeah. okay or at least at least a take yeah they're they're they're very hesitant to throw a head coach out in a in in the playoffs right okay i mean he literally got it he really got it like crap yeah yeah they're really hesitant they're hesitant to throw any player out in the playoffs because they don't want it to impact the game one way or another. So they're very lenient in letting guys do that, but give the Timberwolves credit. They outplayed them
Starting point is 00:12:12 and the Nuggets got their work cut out for them. They're going to have to go regroup. The next game is when? Thursday, Ash? I'm assuming Thursday. Maybe even Friday. Well, hell, you already in the hole now, you already in the hole now. You already in the hole against these
Starting point is 00:12:27 young bulls that already believe they can win. Now you got to go down to Minnesota. You got to go down to Minnesota and play. Hell, the chances of them having a bad game at this point, now that they got confidence too, it ain't going to be no easy task. Hell, I guarantee,
Starting point is 00:12:43 listen, I'm not a bad man and I don't know the line but I guarantee the odds in Vegas have changed now oh yeah yeah the road team has won the first two games on the road that doesn't know I can't remember the last time that happened
Starting point is 00:12:59 yeah sometimes you want to steal one game if you can steal one game on the road and give yourself a chance hell I'm greedy I mean if I'm gonna Sometimes you want to steal one game. If you can steal one game on the road and give yourself a chance. Hell, I'm greedy. I mean, if I'm going to cheat, you know what? A, people cheat on a test and get a B.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Hell, if I'm going to run the risk of getting caught, I'm getting an A. I'm getting all these answers right. Right, right, right. I'm already cheating. I'm already in the wrong. I'm going to get a 100. I ain't getting no 93.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I ain't going to get no 87. I'm getting a 100. Oh, Shannon, you studied for this one. I ain't getting no 93. I ain't going to get no 87. I'm getting 100. Oh, Shannon, you studied for this one. I sure did, Ms. Kicklotter. F y'all. Man, hey, I steal that first one. I'm trying for sweet steaks. I want it all.
Starting point is 00:13:41 But the next game, game three, is Friday night in Minnesota. You know what? I think I might. This Friday, right? I might have to go ahead and sneak down there, man. I might have to go ahead and sneak down there, man, and see Cat in person, man. Cat or Ant?
Starting point is 00:13:59 Ant. Cat too, shit. I'm trying to see seven feet in the post. Mid-range shooting from three. I'm trying to see seven feet. I'm trying to see seven feet in the post. Mid-range shooting from three. I'm trying to see all that, man. The Knicks beat the Pacers, Ocho, 121-117 in a game that came down to the right.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Wire and Jalen Brunson were sensational again, especially in the fourth quarter, becoming the fourth player in NBA history with four straight 40-point games in the postseason. Brunson had 21 points in the fourth quarter. And he joined Hall of Famer Jerry West, who had six consecutive 40-point games in the postseason.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Michael Jordan, Bernard King, all with four. Tonight, the Noble Boys, Devin Chinzo, Josh Hart, and Jalen Brunson had 92. The rest of the Knicks had 29. Hey, ballin'. They ballin'. Listen, Josh. They're ballin'. and Jalen Brunson had 92. The rest of the Knicks had 29. Balling. They're balling. Josh Hart was cutting a fool tonight. Josh Hart, man, his offensive rebound, those rebounds, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:14:55 kill you. Go ahead. Critical. Very critical. As a matter of fact, on the rebounds, obviously getting the point, I'm not sure what the stat line is for when they've gotten rebounds and gotten points off of those rebounds as well. Second chance points. Yeah. Made a killing. Made a killing.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Josh was 9 for 13 from the field. 13 points, 8 assists, 3 steals with 24 points. Devachanko? Devachinzo. Oh, did I say that wrong? Yeah, Devochenzo.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I know how to spell it, though. Yeah. Devochenzo. Yeah. Yeah, Devochenzo. Oh, man, buddy, with 10 for 17, man. Five of nine from three. Five for five from three.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Five for five from three. No, five of nine. Five of... You know what? My eye... Well, my eye... Either my eye is bad... Man, get in the L5, child. You sitting over Harlem night
Starting point is 00:15:51 with Snake Eye when he was calling dice. Seven, seven. Man, I got something in my eye. Well, get in the L5, child. You're blind, bro. You're blind, bro. I ain't gonna be too many more mofos.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Say hi. Okay, it is five for nine. Yeah, five for nine. Three boards, two blocks, 25 points. Hey,
Starting point is 00:16:15 obviously, I think Josh Hart was the engine, was the heart and soul to all this. Oh, he always is. Listen, even though
Starting point is 00:16:24 Runston had 40-some points. 43. Yeah, had 43 points. Hell, 21 points and a half. That goddamn Josh Hart, man. No, he had 21 points in the fourth quarter. In the fourth quarter. I think Josh Hart keep that thing together, man.
Starting point is 00:16:38 He's everywhere on the court. I'm not calling him Dennis Rodman. I'm not saying he's Dennis Rodman, but he plays Dennis Rodman like, not saying he's Dennis Rodman but he plays Dennis Rodman like in a sense of just being nagging and being everywhere and having a knack for the ball I mean he he had 13 rebounds he led both teams in rebounding he had four offensive rebounds so which allows you to get second chance points it allows you to get another crack at the basket. He's doing that. And he's giving you 24 points.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Man, look here. If you let Josh Hart give you 24 points with those rebounds and you let Jalen Brunson do that, you make it extremely difficult on yourself. Because they're just hoping that Josh Hart is doing what Josh Hart does. Give you 10 to 12 points. Give you some
Starting point is 00:17:23 rebounding. But you let him get 24? He had 24. Devin Chimzo had 25. Brunson had 43. And you had OG gave you 13. Hartenstein gave you 13. Because you're going to lose the bench battle. The Pacers
Starting point is 00:17:39 are the number one team as far as bench points. They're number one. They're only 30 teams in the NBA and the Knicks are 27th in bench production. So you're going to lose that battle. So your stars and the question is, how long can they keep this pace? You look at OG Ananobi.
Starting point is 00:17:56 He played 42 minutes. Jalen Brunson played 44 minutes. Josh Hart played all 48 minutes. Devin Chinzo played 44 minutes. Again, the pacer said, look here, let's try to make it a long series. We're those dogs that we talked about. We hunt impacts. And what we do, we tire our opponents out.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Right. I think the Knicks are suited very well based on the personnel they have where they can play the same style of basketball as the Knicks. I mean, as the Knicks, as the Pacers, that run up and down fast pace. They want to slow it down. I mean, I'm saying they can't. They don't want that style of play.
Starting point is 00:18:37 That's not, you don't, look, the Pacers are number one in points. Right. Now, what the Knicks are good at is defense. Right. They're number two in points allowed. So that's their style of play. You don't want to get into, I don't want, listen,
Starting point is 00:18:51 I'm not trying to prove that I can beat you at your game. Right. Beat me at my game. If you beat me at my game, ain't nothing I can do about that, Ocho. But I can't play into your hands, try to get up and down. Well, I'm going to show you, I'm going to beat them at your, I'm going to beat him at that game. Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Mm-mm. But I'm looking at this. Tyrese Halliburton is going to have to be better. Six points? Yeah. Eight assists? Bro, you let the league in assists. You got to give them at least 15 to 20.
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Starting point is 00:20:16 Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Tonight, TJ McConnell was their best player. He played 22 minutes. He was 9 of 16. He was plus 9. He gave you 18 points. Three steals, three assists, a rebound, but Halliburton got to be better.
Starting point is 00:20:48 The Knicks up. Go ahead. The Knicks up. 1-0. Okay, okay, yeah. And it was at the guard, too. It was at the guard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Ocho, I might make an adjustment. I might start Neesith on Brunson. Nim Hard is not a big enough body. He doesn't deter him from doing anything. He gets to wherever he wants to get on the court. And I'm not saying you can stop him, but you got to make it. Hey, you got to make it. You got to be something like a speed bump.
Starting point is 00:21:20 A speed bump ain't going to stop you. You're still going to go fast. But I'll tell you what, you're going to wreck your rear end if you go over me too fast I got to deter you I got to make some shots difficult he's getting to wherever he wants on the court and he's getting there with ease but look what he's done all
Starting point is 00:21:35 season long with people that are tall with people that have length that people that are having advantage over him because of height because of size and he's been able to get to the spots he wants to and get shots off still because he uses his body very well, especially when he's driving. So I don't think size and length is going to really, really help
Starting point is 00:21:56 when you have a player that's as efficient as he is, especially when he's getting to the rim. Size and length always matter. I'm just saying, I'm just throwing that out of size and length always matters you know are you taking a shot at me no i'm just saying i'm just i'm just saying i'm just saying remember they say it ain't the size of the ship it's the motion of the ocean but we're gonna tell you i want a luxury liner in my harbor i don't want no rowboat that's all i'm saying all right we just talked about this last night, and I take offense to that.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah. No, but I just think the thing is, because here's the thing, Ocho. Now we get, as the Pacers, guess what? I don't got no another opponent tomorrow on Wednesday. I got the Knicks. Right. So I get to settle in. I get to, okay, this is what they do.
Starting point is 00:22:45 This is what they want to get. Right. Look, somebody else, if Devin Chimzo gives you, okay, but the catalyst, the head is Brunson. Right. You can't let him get going as early as he got it going. I mean, you let him get it going in the first quarter, and then now he's in a rhythm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:01 You let any great player get into a rhythm, you can't stop it. I don't give a damn who you throw at him. At this point in time, he's done in a rhythm. Yeah. You let any great player get into a rhythm, you can't stop it. I don't give a damn who you throw at him. At this point in time, he's done got a rhythm. You can throw whoever you want to throw at him. The basket is the ocean. And he just throw it in there. Yeah. But I know I'm not starting them hard on him.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Neesmith, you get the assignment. I'm going to try. Because what do I got to lose? Right. But I also know one thing. Tyrese Halliburton got to play better than what he played last night. He's got to play much better. Two of six. He gave you two
Starting point is 00:23:29 rebounds, eight assists, three turnovers, six points. Bro, he's an all-star. Six points? Nah, bro. That's not good enough. That is not good enough in order to get you to the level that you want to get.
Starting point is 00:23:46 It's one game. The Knicks did what they needed to do. Especially at home. Win at home. Win a close ball game. It's always nice to win close ball games because it gives you the confidence that you can win that way. It wasn't a blowout. And I don't think any of these
Starting point is 00:24:02 games are probably going to be a blowout. But they've got to find a way. They've got to find a way. The Pacers is to win one of these games because based on the series, the Knicks have four games at home. The Pacers have three. So the only way you can win the series
Starting point is 00:24:18 is to steal one on the road and hold serve at home. Before we get into a news cap, Ocho, we're going to try something. 20,000 people in the chat right now. I'm going to ask you guys about these new nightcap mug
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Starting point is 00:25:06 they always end up on your end. And I learn about them on the show. Now you got three mugs. Now you know my color is black. I love black. I'm curious at what point does your partner in crime
Starting point is 00:25:21 get one? Hey Felix, you talking about you curious curiosity killed a cat. Hey, chat, y'all like me? Hey, chat. What y'all think about these? I would like a mug.
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Starting point is 00:25:52 to probably about 400 degrees. Yeah, 400? Yeah, 400. So, these are going up on the site in a couple of weeks. Wait, wait, wait. You think I can get a cup,
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Starting point is 00:26:31 I mean, I understand I'm ineligible to play, but I mean, I think I should have a mug as well to put on display and let the chat know. Have you ever done anything? Have you ever done anything? Gotten in trouble? Because I probably got your mug. If you've done anything that Got in trouble? Because I probably got your mug.
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Starting point is 00:27:32 Ain't nobody there. Somebody there. Nah, ain't nobody there. Did y'all have y'all mail forwarded? Yeah, everything forwarded here to the new house. Well, I think somebody got it, Ojo, I swear. Nah. Ram!
Starting point is 00:27:49 Baby! They got your new address? Alright. Yeah. She said y'all got it. She said she gave the address to ask, so at any point if you want to uh you use amazon uh jeff bezos got next day i can get i could have that that that mug right there that black mug you just showed the people on on on chat that could be here that could be here tomorrow well we got three and if you go follow my clothing company 84 clothing on
Starting point is 00:28:21 instagram we'll mail a third mug so we're about to give three mugs away. Hey guys, one of these is supposed to be Ocho's, so y'all will have Ocho's mug. Matter of fact, if any of you win the mug, anybody in the chat that wins the mug, send me a DM and I give you my address and I pay you to send me that mug. Ocho,
Starting point is 00:28:40 that's their mug. I'm deserving though. I'm deserving. Like it's Nightcap, Uncle Ocho. You know how they had Rocket and Tubbs? Yeah. Huh? Sanford and Son? It's Crockett and Tubbs.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Crockett? What? I said it wrong? Yeah, Sonny Crockett. Oh, Crockett. Okay, my bad. My bad. But you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Rico. Don Johnson was Crockett. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My bad, my bad. It's been a long time since I've seen the show. With Tubbs. But it was close. So make sure you, hey, all you have to do
Starting point is 00:29:16 go follow on Shay Shay Media on both platforms, Twitter and Instagram, and then follow my clothing line, the third person, 84clothing on Instagram, and you guys my clothing line, the third person, 84clothing on Instagram, and you guys, Ash is going to select the winner before the night's over.
Starting point is 00:29:33 But Ash, are you sure Ash got your number? I mean, got your address? Ash said she ain't got it. Nah, I ain't hear, I can hear. She ain't say nothing, she got it, because Real gave it to her. Ash ain't got a head, why would I lie to you? She got it. Rell gave it to her. Ash ain't got a hand. Why would I lie to you? She got it.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I mean, she... Would I lie to you, Ocho? Rell just said, yes, Ash got it. And if Ash ain't got it, then Doug can give him the address. And so we can make sure... We'll tell Doug to give it to us. I don't understand. Every time it comes to some of the goodies that have come in, I have got nothing.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I've got nothing. I ain't get my plaques. I ain't get none of the... You ain't got the plaques. Oh, so you ain't got nothing. I ain't get my plaques. I ain't get none of the... You ain't got the plaques. Oh, so you ain't got that... You ain't got that... It took you a month just to give me the gold plaques
Starting point is 00:30:10 so I can hang up in my little room. Didn't I just tell you... Oh, you got my phone code? I ain't got my phone code. You just received an award. I see it sitting back there. I ain't got... I ain't got that.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Oh, you put it back in the box? Okay, you're a real one. You're a real one. You're a real one. You're a real one. Listen, you know what that's going to be. But I want to keep them together. They're a trinity. You know, a trinity is three.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Trinity? Yeah, a trinity is three. So, oh, so now I got a quad. So, this is LeBron. This is you. And then my other two. I don't want to break y'all up. You got two.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Now, yeah, y'all can break it up because I need that. I need that here. That's a collector's item. You know, I'm telling you that my Funko by 20 years from now, boy, it's going to be worth a pretty penny. Really? Oh, it's going to be worth a pretty penny. Well, I better hold on to it then.
Starting point is 00:31:00 No, no, no. That's a one-on-one. Don't do that. Don't do that. That's part of my... Why would I let you have it if it's going to be worth a pretty penny? I like pennies too. Because it's me. It's me. I mean, why
Starting point is 00:31:11 do you want to keep something that is me? I understand. You know, it's me. My kids don't want to see that. How about this? I'll trade you. First take uncle. Uncle. I'll trade you first take uncle uncle
Starting point is 00:31:28 first take uncle Ocho nah I'm good I don't want none of that take it or leave it I need my Funko man I need my Funko I need my mug I need my the ward what's the name of the ward in the back behind you I need my Funko, man. I need my Funko. I need my mug. I need my, um,
Starting point is 00:31:45 the award. What's the name of the award in the back behind you? Oh, the Synopsis Award. Yeah, I need my Synopsis Award because I want to be able to display these things behind me. And as you can see, I have nothing behind me
Starting point is 00:31:58 except my nightcap sign. And I think it would be really dope to have... Yeah, guess what? Guess what? When we're at the Webby's, guess what? You and I walk on stage and really dope to have. Yeah. I guess what? Guess what? When we're at the web is guess what? You and I walk on stage and you'll get the webby. Hey,
Starting point is 00:32:10 and we get, we gonna walk on stage. Yes. Hey, what you wearing? What you wearing? What you wearing? I haven't,
Starting point is 00:32:17 I haven't, uh, I haven't really thought about it. Hey, look at man. Look here. Huh? Oh,
Starting point is 00:32:23 Joe. Yeah. You're gonna walk on the ward. Right. I walk on the stage and if they only have one award you can take it home you got that right I'm going to make sure whoever's presenting I'm going to make sure they put it in my hands oh you're going to grab it huh
Starting point is 00:32:36 oh I'm going to grab it listen and then I got a speech I got a speech written out you want to hear it no no no we'll save it no okay yeah I wrote out a speech. It's about five minutes long. As long as they don't cut me off, we're going to be all right. We ain't got no five minutes, Ocho. Huh? Ocho, we ain't got no five minutes.
Starting point is 00:32:54 No, no. We got like 30 seconds. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That is what we're not going to do. I need to thank... There are people that I need to thank. I need to thank your team. I need to thank my team. I need to thank the Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And there are other people I need to run down team. I need to thank my team. I need to thank the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. And there are other people I need to run down and thank as well that have been a part of my journey.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Ocho. Ocho. We only got like a minute. We only got a minute. Have you seen the award shows? Yeah. Yes. If they want me to leave, they need to start the music like they do people at the Oscars.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Start the music. They ain't got no music. Listen, this is a moment and I need to take advantage of it. Shit. Now there's going to be other moments. We're going to be back.
Starting point is 00:33:39 We're going to be back next year. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm going to be sharp too. Okay. And one thing people don't get to see me up next year. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm going to be sharp, too. Okay. One thing people don't get to see me often
Starting point is 00:33:47 is they don't get to see me in a suit very often. Like, I'm going to be so sharp at the Webby's, it's going to look like I belong at the Met Gala. That's the kind of sharp I'm going to be. I'm going to be number two pencil sharp. You hear me? Yeah, that's what we got to get. We got to get to the Met Gala next year.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Yeah. Oh, boy. Boy, they don't want to see me at the Met Gala. They don't want to see me at the Met Gala. Well, you hear me? Right. I'm going to steal the show. That's what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:34:16 I don't care what the theme is, because any theme, regardless of the theme, I'm going to get into it. Hell, yeah. All right, Ocho, time for our first segment of the night, and it's a news cap. Let's take a listen. We all heard the video of Jimmy Butler trolling the Celtics and the Knicks,
Starting point is 00:34:35 saying they'd be at home. Huh? Y'all too late. Take a listen to what Pat Riley had to say and what Jimmy Butler had to say. Uh-oh. You know, for him to say that you know I thought is that Jimmy trolling or is that Jimmy
Starting point is 00:34:52 serious you know if you're not on the court playing against Boston or on the court playing against New York Knicks you should keep your mouth shut and your criticism of those teams clearly now against the New York Knicks, you should keep your mouth shut and your criticism of those teams. Clearly.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Now, normally we don't hear people come out and say things about their star player. That's just Jimmy talking, yada, yada, yada. Right. But that ain't what Pat had to say. That ain't what the Godfather had to say. Like, if you ain't playing, keep your mouth closed. But that's Pat Riley. That's always been him in general.
Starting point is 00:35:25 For sure. Listen, any time I've heard him talk, if there's anything that doesn't sit right with him pertaining to his team or something a player on his team is doing, he's been one that has never been known to bite his tongue. That's his ship. He's the driver of that ship,
Starting point is 00:35:41 and he's going to make sure it's known that he is still the driver of that ship regardless to who is playing on the team. It didn't sit well with him. I'm not sure if him and Jimmy talked about it. Assuming based on his answer, they haven't talked about it at all. And I think it was Jimmy just trolling. And I think Pat should know that based on Jimmy's personality.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Patty about that. Yeah. Patty about that trolling. Patty about nothing. Pat about being on the court and contributing and about that. Yeah. Pat ain't about that trolling. Pat ain't about nothing. Pat about being on the court and contributing and helping that team win. But when you think about it,
Starting point is 00:36:10 Jimmy has done just that. So I think I would have been What have you done for me lately? Lately? I need to see that. Pat old school. You already know Pat Roddick with the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Pat old school. He ain't about that. Oh, you got great spirit because you led us to two NBA finals within the last five years. Pat don't give a deal about that. Right. What have you done for me lately? As in this year.
Starting point is 00:36:34 He had some harsh critiques of Tyler Hero. He said he's fragile. Right. Hopefully one year he'll figure it out and he can play all 82. You know what that is? I mean, this entire hero, if you see this, I can have you on the court for 82 straight games and the playoffs. You won't miss no time. And it all comes down to one thing.
Starting point is 00:36:57 One key word. Nutrition. Holler at your boy. I get you right. Listen, I'm in Miami. I'm in Miami right here. I can create your meal plan week to week
Starting point is 00:37:07 on the weekend you and your own the weekends are your cheat days holla at your boy see I love Pat Riley yeah I love hey I love the matter of fact
Starting point is 00:37:15 I love that everybody's going to be held accountable yes sir that's what I wanted to be I want everybody everybody yes sir
Starting point is 00:37:23 from the best to the worst yeah that's when that's how you win you a pat ronnie said you know what i'll never accept anything in a win i wouldn't in a loss yeah we lost why are we talking he like why are we talking we lost right i don't like you guys talking when we win right but why we we't like you guys talking when we win. Right. But why are we talking? We definitely shouldn't be talking when we losing. And then it was the guy. And I think it really rubbed Pat the wrong way because Jimmy's injured.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Right. Bro, you talking to you. He wasn't even out there. Well, you were for one game. You think, is this a sign that Jimmy Butler is leaving? If there's a chance? Well, he won a max contract in a Pat Riley. I think Pat didn't pass.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Say something. He won't guide. That's that's going to play. That's going to be healthy. Get max money. Come on, Pat. I mean,
Starting point is 00:38:15 come on now, but he's not, he's not, but he's not going to trade him. I mean, cause look, that's the really, if you're not going,
Starting point is 00:38:23 if you're not going to trade him, you're going to have to give him max money. You got to make up your mind. Something has to give. Something has to give. Now, Kevin Durant, if I'm not mistaken. Kevin Durant was free and didn't go to Miami. So what makes you think you're going to get him now?
Starting point is 00:38:38 Kevin Durant has been totally free. He's been totally free twice. When he was totally... After OKC, he went to Golden State. After Golden State, he's been totally free twice. When he was totally, when he, after OKC, he went to Golden State. After Golden State, he went to Brooklyn. Brooklyn. What makes you think he want to go to Miami now? Because I talked to him.
Starting point is 00:38:56 I talked to KD. And I know KD going to see this. And KD going to test this. And you can talk about it tomorrow on, on, um, on first take. I talked to Katie, Katie, Katie and I had a lengthy conversation. Listen, I'm not into basketball and people like Katie and LeBron and some of these other players that I know they confided me. And I asked if it was okay to talk about it tonight on nightcap and just so happened,
Starting point is 00:39:21 boom, it comes up. Right. And he said, you know what, he would have no problem coming down to Miami if it made sense. And what pieces the Heat are able to keep and surround him with to make sure they have a chance to be able to continue. I won't bam it.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Go team up with Jimmy Butler. I won't bam and tile a hero. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I think that's something that KD will be able to work with, I think. I don't think so. I think so. Knowing what Pat can do
Starting point is 00:39:56 is putting together a bench and putting together other pieces, three other pieces, you know, to make sure we have a chance. And obviously with Spoh as the head coach, we will always be able to win. You're going to be undersized. Who's going to be the defender?
Starting point is 00:40:13 We were undersized this year too. And that's why you got home. That's why you went home. I'm just saying. I'm just telling you, Katie gave me his sentiments on how he feels about coming to Miami, and that's what he told me. I'm just trying you, Katie gave me his sentiments on how he feels about coming to Miami, and that's what he told me. I'm just trying to figure out why now? Because he had two
Starting point is 00:40:29 other opportunities in his prime to go to Miami. He's still in his prime. Okay. Sure. We talk about one of the most prolific sports of all time. You still haven't told me why now, though. Oh, listen, I could ask.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Matter of fact, I could FaceTime him right now. And we could ask him right now. I'm not sure if that's... I don't want to be rude. I just think the thing is that what the Suns, considering what they don't have any draft capital, they're going to draft compensation and they're going to play us. And knowing Riles, he's not going to be wanting to give that up. He's not going to give up Bam. He's not going to players and and knowing arouse he's not going to be wanting to
Starting point is 00:41:06 give that up he's not going to he's not going to give up bam he's not going to give up tyler hero and draft compensation because now it's going to be the same situation you had with nick when carmelo went to the knicks right by the time he got there you had done gave up everything in the trade to get him so now he's left with nothing nothing. A grocery store doesn't do you any good if you don't got anything on the shelves. Okay, well, you know what? Now that you just said that and you know that Jimmy's not going anywhere
Starting point is 00:41:33 and the chance of KD coming or not because the Suns don't, I mean, well, the Heat don't have the draft capital to actually get him. No. So they're going to have to give Jimmy Butler his max money. Case closed.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I just saw the riddle. Actually, I just saw the problem. What would max be for Jimmy anyway, like numbers wise? Max contract, which means they can give you a fifth year. You go to another team, they can only give you four years. Okay. So it's basically the fifth year. So probably for Jimmy, it's probably be about what about what five years it'd probably be five years 255 280 yeah that's that's that's a nice that's a nice chunk of change right there
Starting point is 00:42:17 i think that's what it is because lebron lebron can get three years at 54. So something around there, somewhere 50-55. Five years, probably 275. I like it. I like it. Well, as you're looking up that, Victor Wimbinyama became... Huh? Oh, so because he already has two, still got two years left on that deal doesn't it oh his max deal is two for 113 because he already has two years still to go on that contract
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Starting point is 00:43:48 And who doesn't want that? Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Victor Wimby Yama became the sixth unanimous rookie of the year. He joined other winners. Ralph, the 7'4 Samson out of University of Virginia. David Robinson out of Naval Academy. Blake Griffin out of Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Dame Lillard. Where did Dame go to college at? Carl Anthony Towns went to Kentucky and now Wembley from the Weber State. Weber State. It's Weber.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Weber. Pronounce it. I guarantee it's Weber State. Weber. Pronounce it. I guarantee it's Weber State. Weber. Mr. Rookie of the Year is the average 20 points, three assists, and three blocks. That's Victor Wimby Yama. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Wimby, he averaged 21 points, 11 rebounds, four blocks. He's the NBA block leader, most blocks by a rookie in the last 30 seasons. The first rookie to average 20 and 10 since Blake Griffin. The first rookie with 20, 10, and 3 this century, all players. And the first with 250 blocks and 100 made threes. That is Victor Weber. Weber. Weber. What did you use?
Starting point is 00:45:28 Did you use Alexa? I said it. Did you use Alexa to figure that out? No, I didn't. I could have swore it was Weber. Yeah, say it again. Weber State. No, it's Weber.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Okay, there's another one in there. We just probably got them confused. It's two different ones. Yeah, Weber. Okay. We. Weber. Okay. We, okay. My bad. Hey, matter of fact,
Starting point is 00:45:50 on Wimby winning Rookie of the Year, some of the names that you just called, right? Yes. But those, hold on, those were unanimous. Now, obviously LeBron won it, AI won it, Michael Jordan won it,
Starting point is 00:46:01 but it wasn't unanimous. They were unanimous. They got all the first place votes. Okay. So is Wimby the U the best rookie of the year ever? Statistically, you think? Of everyone that you named that have won it unanimously. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Yeah. Young Bull going to be special, man. Yeah. Because he could do more than any other rookie in the history. But there have been, look, obviously Jordan, who I think was fourth in the league in scoring, I think he was sixth in MVP. But when you talk about 20 points, you talk about 11 rebounds,
Starting point is 00:46:40 you talk about four blocks, you talk about three assists, you talk about 100 threes, no rookie has ever been able to do that. Now, will he turn out, end up being, could he be a historically great player? Absolutely. Because of his skill set. We haven't had a rookie,
Starting point is 00:46:59 we haven't had a player that possessed what he possessed. To be able to score, to be able to rebound, to be able to block shots, to be able to shoot the three ball shoot yeah no we haven't had that so yeah i'll give him his credit and i you know i go back hey i follow ralph sampson when he was in college three-time national player of the year he went to the final four his freshman season outstanding college career needs went out on him. And he was, he wasn't the player that many thought he would be, but he had an outstanding,
Starting point is 00:47:28 a rookie season. They ended up getting the first overall pick the next year, which was a team Elijah won in 84. They go to the NBA finals in 86, that team, the twin towers face the Celtics and they lose in six. So with, with that being said, yeah, I think Wemby,
Starting point is 00:47:47 because of the tools and what he possessed, we've never seen a rookie. Could David Robinson score like this? Yeah. Could he rebound like this, block shots? Yeah. He can't put the ball on the floor like that either. Shaq was another one.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Yeah. But Shaq wasn't unanimous because I think Alonzo Mourning got some of those votes. Because I think Alonzo Mourning got some of those votes. Because I think Alonzo Mourning was third because Sean Bradley was second. Was second pick in the draft. But Wimby had
Starting point is 00:48:15 an outstanding rookie season and I think he's going to have more great seasons to come. CBS Sports ranked the AFC teams entering this season. season obviously we know who number one is the defending champ two-time defending champ the ravens was two the bills were three the jets was four the bingos five texans six browns seven dolphins eight jags nine charges 10 steelers 11 and so forth and so on you like that you see us on the on the screen Dolphins, eight. Jags, nine. Chargers, 10. Steelers, 11.
Starting point is 00:48:46 And so forth and so on. You like that? You see us on the screen? You like that list? You like high school? One and two make sense. Four, what are we doing? Explain that to me going into this season.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Is it simply because Aaron Rodgers is there? We haven't seen any sample size of what he's going to do in New York yet at all. So I'm guessing living on the past where that comes into play. Actually, I would move the Jets down a little lower. I would put... The Texans? Yeah, excuse me for doing this. I would put the Bengals at four and I would put the Texans right behind us. Mm-hmm. I would put the Bengals at four and I would put the Texans right behind us.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Or if anything, I take the Dolphins and bring the Dolphins up a little higher as well, based on what they've been able to do. But most of the time, it's happened so many times, especially for the Dolphins when it comes to the postseason. Anytime it's cold with the game, they just don't show up. They just don't show up. They just don't show up. But they are much more deserving than being at number eight, especially having the Cleveland Browns in front of them, who had a good run when Joe Flacco was there.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Everything else after that? I wasn't with Tumbo in the draft. Shaq came out 92 because Weber came out 93. Why are the Jets even in this mix in general? What are we doing? Who's number two? Mutombo? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Yeah, Cheese. Is that what's number two? Where did Bradley come out what draft was Bradley in 93 Raiders behind oh 93 was Chris Webber
Starting point is 00:50:37 Chris Webber okay feels okay so you got a problem you think okay you got really no problem with the. So you got a problem. You think, okay, you got really no problem with the first three. You got Chiefs, Ravens, Bills. You believe the Texans should be, you believe the Bengals should be the four,
Starting point is 00:50:56 Bengals should be five, and you want to put the Browns at six, Dolphins at seven? No, no, no. Put the Dolphins at seven. Put the Dolphins at seven? No, put the Dolphins at seven. Put the Dolphins at seven. Yeah, put the Dolphins at seven. I mean, I'm not sure why the Jets are that high.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Now, obviously, I know they have Aaron Rodgers, so we're expecting them to play well, so I can see why CBS Sports had them ranked so high, but we haven't seen anything yet from Aaron Rodgers or the offensive line or if they're going to be able to hold up and block for him this year and not have him running for his life. But
Starting point is 00:51:32 no. The Browns The Dolphins are in front of the Browns. Dolphins in front of the Browns. Okayphins in front of the Browns. Okay. So you like Chiefs, Ravens, Bills, Bengals, Texans. Yeah. Dolphins, Browns. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Yes. There we go. I like that order. Jets. Now you're putting the Jets. So the Jets are going to be somewhere around 8-9. Yeah, most definitely. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Most definitely. Cowboys EVP, Executive Vice President, Stephen Jones says it's a priority to get a new contract done with Dak, and he believes Dak can win a Super Bowl in Dallas. I totally think Dak can lead us to a championship. He does everything the right way. He's certainly the leader of this football team. He keeps everybody motivated in the offseason.
Starting point is 00:52:31 He's got everybody working out and doing all the things that it takes to put the work in, put the work, to give yourself an opportunity to win a championship. We've had some tough breaks and tough games there in the postseason. But we won 12 games three years in a row. Doesn't matter. I think the right at the top, the term of teams done over a three-year period.
Starting point is 00:52:52 We're hanging around the rim. We've just got to get up there and grab it, to use a basketball term, and dunk it in. We're hanging around the rim. We just got to get the job done. rim. We just got to get the job done. But he said he blamed the salary cap on the reason why they
Starting point is 00:53:11 wouldn't pursue Derrick Henry. You didn't have money. Derrick Henry signed a two-year deal for $8 million. Somehow, you're going to look up under your mattress and you're going to find possibly a three-year deal for another $150,000, $160 million for Dak Prescott? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Are you confused? Am I the only one confused by this? I mean, a little bit. I think they just didn't want to pursue him. Okay, just say that. Yeah, but they don't want to say that. You know, they're going to play the game. I think they already had an idea about Ezekiel Elliott coming back,
Starting point is 00:53:43 knowing that he was done up in New England and bringing him back. And what's going to happen is they knew they can get Ezekiel Elliott for a lower price as opposed to Derrick Henry. Yeah. And the numbers will show when Zeke signs, I'm not sure if he has signed yet or not, but the numbers will show that it would be nothing
Starting point is 00:54:03 to the extent of what Derrick Henry would warrant in command as far as what the Ravens paid him. So, yeah, that's a money game. Obviously, knowing that they have CD to pay, they got Micah to pay, and they have Dak Prescott to pay.
Starting point is 00:54:20 It's a whole, it's a whole, it's a lot of Brink trucks that are getting ready to back up over there in Dallas. Well, how, well, how are you going to pay him? Michael Parsons wants max money. He's looking at, he saw the money that, uh, uh, miles Garrett got, right. He just saw the money that stone cold that Chris Jones got. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Chris Jones is at like 32 million a year. Yeah. You ask what Michael's going to want. How, how are they going to do it? Oh, they're going to be able to do it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:48 CD Lamb. Look, CD, these three top receivers, JJ, Chase, and CD. CD, yeah. They just waiting on one of the others to do it. Yeah. Somebody got to go first. I don't want to set the market, though, Joe. I don't want to set the market.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Right. Somebody got to go first. I don't want to go first. Somebody got to go. So when they call my agent, tell them, hey, tell them we good. Nah, you're not going to use my contract, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:55:13 You're not going to use my contract. Listen, at some point, because you want to be in training camp, obviously, I'm not sure if they're at the off-season program, training and getting ready. But that trigger, somebody going to have to pull the trigger and say, you know what? It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:55:32 This is a blessing for me. This is the biggest deal I'm going to get. So I want to make sure this deal is right. Based on their age, they're going to be right back to the table again, barring injury. They're going to be right back to the table again in maybe another three years if they're consistent in their play and continue to play at a high level. So you might as well just get it done, get it out of the way. And even if you do set the market, the person that leapfrogs you
Starting point is 00:55:57 is not going to leapfrog you by that much. It all depends on where you stop at. Because here's the thing. Yeah. In order for the market to keep going, somebody's going to have to jump Tyreek. Now, Tyreek has had the number one pay for two years now, Ocho. Right, right, right. So if everybody keeps going up under Tyreek, the market doesn't move.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Right. So you're going to have to get somebody leapfrogging. Yeah. Now, once he leapfrogs have to get somebody to leapfrog it. Yeah. Now, once he leapfrogs him, I got to leapfrog you, and then the other guy going to leapfrog me. That's how you keep the market moving. The market going, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:35 If you notice how the quarterback market continuously grows. You see how they do that, Ojo? Mm-hmm. Yeah. And the funny thing about it with the market, especially the receiver market, these are players that are worthy of shifting the market anyway. There's really no argument.
Starting point is 00:56:49 If they don't set it, who's going to set it in the next couple of years? Nah. Ain't nothing out there right now to set it. Oh, Puka. Puka said, hey, y'all going to do that thing now? Don't show change me. Oh, Puka said, I need that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Oh, he coming to get it now. He definitely, he definitely coming to get it. So, that's where we at. Yeah. OBJ said he chose the Dolphins over the Chiefs and the Bills. After he signed with the Dolphins,
Starting point is 00:57:19 it was revealed that OBJ thought about joining the Chiefs and the Bills. According to Jeremy Fowler, Odell picked Miami because of head coach Mike McDaniel. Odell Beckham is betting big revealed that obj thought about joining the chiefs and the bills according to jeremy follow odell pick miami because of head coach mike mcdaniel odell beckham is betting big on mcdonough unlocking him he wants to produce and still wants to get be a to be prime target to get prime targets he feels like the dolphins can help him get there now had an upside package a little eight million dollars
Starting point is 00:57:43 so they came to a sweet spot in the negotiation. Where some of the other teams in the mix, I was told Kansas City was appealing to Odell, Buffalo as well. But in the end, he believed this offense could help. Hmm. I think me personally. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:58:00 I like Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel, yeah. Who you think going to unlock your potential the most? Andy Reid and win championships. Andy Reid, you get to play with Patrick Mahomes, Tua, or Josh Allen. Which one are you choosing, Ocho? I mean, if I was in Odell's situation, I would have picked playing for Andy Reid and playing with Tua, Travis Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:58:26 But again, you have to understand, at the end of the day, the compensation that I'm receiving, it needs to be on par. And obviously, I think the package that the Dolphins were giving is a little better from a money standpoint.
Starting point is 00:58:43 But I like what Odell is saying. He's saying all the right things. The targets. We just talked about this the other night, where I argued down that the potential that can be unlocked in showing that Odell still has the ability to play like he's in his prime, even though he would be considered the number three
Starting point is 00:59:00 behind two of the greats in the game today. And we're going to see that. I think this year, you'll see that odell will have the targets he will be able to do more based on the positions the position and opportunity that he's given to show that he can still play at a high level and i think i think he'll be fine i think he'll be fine even though he's not playing with mahomes and andy reed this is why I would have went to Kansas City. Rasheed Wright's going to be suspended. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Who's going to get those catches, Ocho? So instead of being worried about number two, you're going to be number one. Or instead of being number three, you're going to be number two. For at least, he might get suspended six games. Yeah. Yeah. That's six games. Again, the money, Unc. The money. The money. You know what it it is you know what it's about at the end of the day now come on you know how you know how we are i mean but
Starting point is 00:59:51 the money is he only getting three million he the the with the incentives it can go to eight million he's not making eight million with incentives i mean with the base yeah i know i know what you mean but he won't hit those incentives. And I think he has a good chance to hit those incentives in Miami. Okay. Guess who's going to get... You know Mike going to take care of him now. You know Tua going to take care of him.
Starting point is 01:00:15 No, Reek and Waddle are going to get there. They're going to get there regardless. But I'm just saying, the opportunities are going to present themselves for Odell to eat. You like your chances better getting reaching those numbers with Reek and Waddle or Rasheed Weiss being suspended, Xavier Worthy being a rookie, Sky Moore,
Starting point is 01:00:33 Kadarius Tony. You tell me. Which do you think you've got a better chance of getting your number? Rasheed Weiss, let's just say for the sake of argument, he's suspended the first four to six weeks of the season Xavier Worthy is a rookie
Starting point is 01:00:47 Sky Moore, Kadarius Tony Travis Kelsey you missing the one thing that matters the money at the end of the day he done made money I thought he wanted a championship come on now he got a championship
Starting point is 01:01:03 he got one already the money is what matters right now. We want the money and the money looks better over there in Miami. And you know, we ain't got no state tax. And in Miami, we got tootsies. Right, later for that.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Come on now. Man, for an opportunity to play with Mahomes, I'm going to Mahomes. He has the championship hold on I'm just trying to figure it out what do guys not when Brady was in New England guys were taking less money to go do what
Starting point is 01:01:35 because there was an opportunity to do what Ocho tell the people at home did you not just hear me the man has a ring already the man got money already he want more money Tell the people at home. Did you not just hear me? The man has a ring already, huh? The man got money already. He want more money. Man, $3 million, I mean $3 million base.
Starting point is 01:01:54 That's a lot of money, man. Man, people out here starving. Ain't got no money. We're not talking about people out there. We're talking about athletes. We're talking about NFL, so stop it. Well, he want more money. He want more. He got money.
Starting point is 01:02:05 He want more. He got money. He want more. And the better package deal was what Mike McDaniels and the Dolphins offered. And brother Stephan, Stephen Ross? Stephen Ross, yes. Stephen Ross. That's all. That's what all it come down to. I mean, listen, you can't eat them rings.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Them ring, them ring, you can't eat them. No. It's cute, nice little decoration for your finger. You can't do nothing with that. The Volume. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news
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