Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Caitlin Clark makes history, Broke NBA stories, & Jokic's GOAT case
Episode Date: March 4, 2024Shannon Sharpe & Gilbert Arenas discuss Caitlin Clark setting the NCAA record for points, Gil's life as a broke NBA player, and what Jokic has to do to enter the GOAT debate. 00:50 Caitlin Clark p...asses Pistol Pete for most point in NCAA history11:30 Gil says he’d give up sex for a year to win a title17:00 Unc says he’s rather be in the hall of fame than win a super bowl “25,000 men have Super Bowl rings”18:30 Can Knicks overcome Brunson and Randle injuries?21:00 Q and ayyyyy30:00 Much more Nightcap #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Kaitlyn Clark passes Pistol Pete Maravich
for D1 scoring, men or women.
On Sunday, in her last regular
season home game, she passed the LSU
and NBA legend for the most points
scored by a Division I basketball player,
men or women. She beat
Ohio State.
She scored 35 points,
nine assists,
had six rebounds
for the number six Iowa Hawkeyes
as they won 93-83
over the number two Buckeyes.
It put Clark at 3,685 career points.
I think they're the A-I-A-W,
someone that has like 200 points. There's an A-I-A-W, someone that has like 200 points.
There's an outside chance she could get that, Gil, if she like the tournament,
Big Ten tournament, and they go far because she's averaging 30.
So there's a good chance that she could play 10 games and she's 200 points or less.
200 points or less,
there's an outside chance she can...
Could she possibly get...
Can she get 315
to make it an even four?
Which I don't think anybody's going to...
I don't think any woman
or man will break
that record if she gets to 4,000 points.
Hell, this is going to be hard.
I mean, whatever she ends with, it's going to be
extremely, extremely hard.
I'm not even going to lie to you, huh?
Soon as
you said women's basketball,
I went to sleep a little bit,
just like the rest of the chat.
We went to sleep on this, huh? I'm sorry,
huh? Okay? Man, Kayla Clark
let that thing go, and she's averaging 33
gills. I know but god dang
we can't relate right I know she beat she beat Pistol Pete but Pistol Pete only played three
years so you know and they didn't have the three-point shot because he was cooking like
we're not going to take anything from her what she she's doing, she's changed women's basketball. She's brought some hype into this sport.
Yes.
Ticket sales went up. Popularity
went up. Man, she got
Travis Scott at the game. Look at the guys
she got coming. Look at the people she has coming to
go in the hour.
No, no, no. Hey, listen, listen.
To be
a
college basketball fan this year,
last year has been amazing.
I personally don't like the WNBA
having Indiana as the number two
or the number one pick.
No one pick.
Oh, you want it on a big market.
I need the best player in the country,
the most popular player in the country,
the most recognizable face in the country right now.
I need her in a big market.
I need her in Los Angeles.
Los Angeles got three picks, right?
In the first seven.
Trade them all for Caitlyn Clark.
Why not?
If I'm in, he ain't going to do it.
They have to.
They have to.
Ticket sales, jersey sales, right?
Marketing deals, lip gloss lines.
It's here.
Think about the Sparks games.
You're going to have the Jenners there.
You're going to have all those celebrities coming to watch that woman play.
Yeah, I'm going to go see them play.
Coming to the goddamn FIBA game.
Hey, but here's the thing, though.
Say what you want about the game.
She more popular than any man playing college basketball right now.
Oh, no, that's facts.
I can't tell you.
And the only reason I know this guy is because he tripped,
the guy from Duke, Filipowski.
They call him Flip.
Other than that, I couldn't tell you anybody playing.
And I know UConn in Kentucky is Kentucky and North Carolina.
Baycott is still there, but he's been there for like 15 years.
But for the most part, she's more popular, 3X,
than any men's college basketball player.
When it comes to the popularity and the game,
the popularity matches the game,
she's by far ahead of everyone.
Next up is what, Bronny James?
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
Her and Juju.
Juju Watkins, the young lady at USC.
Those two got more popularity.
Angel Reese.
And you know what's so funny?
If Kaitlyn Clark wasn't doing what she was doing this last year,
Juju would be the biggest thing in women's basketball right now.
Because she's only a freshman, they're like, we're going to give her her love, but we're not going to give her the keys right now.
We'll give it to her next year.
Right now, we're just going to let Caitlyn finish her career off being who she is.
And, you know, just from a marketing side, her, Angel Reese, we have to be in big markets.
This is not about the game.
WNBA, this is not about the game.
This is about entertainment in the business.
You're trying to grow your game.
Having the most popular players sitting in Indiana,
that's not a good look for the development of the game.
You want the Jenners coming to the game.
You want other NBA players coming to the game you want other nba players coming to the
game you want mayweather driving to the game because she done yeah popped off 50 hit a quarter
that's what you want you want those headlines and sports in it you're never going to get that in
indiana right i mean you know you might have bird you might have you know, you might have Bird, you might have, you know, Larry Legend, old ass, come out there and, you know, pop his head through the window or something.
You ain't gonna get no sports center stuff, man.
But if you look at the three most popular players in the women's game, you look at Kaitlyn Clark, Juju Watkins, and Angel Reese, you tell me the men that's playing college basketball that's on their level.
Oh, no, no, no. As far as popularity, as far as notoriety, NIL, whatever the case may be.
No.
The women college sport right now is overtaking college hoop.
They are dominating because they are playing excellent basketball right now.
We got these ladies.
The young lady at Stanford,
Cameron Brink. You got
the one at
USC with Don Staley.
Don Staley.
Paige Becker.
The women's game
might be even more popular
because they talk
about it because of those.
It's not so much
like we know the programs. We know the Dukes because they talk about it. I mean, because of those, because it like, and it's not so much like the,
like, you know,
we know the programs,
we know the Dukes
and the Carolinas,
the Kentucky, the Kansas,
but they're not,
what they're not is like,
the Kansas,
well, Kansas lost three or four
and Kentucky has lost
probably like six or seven games.
But when you look at the women
and it's like the individuals,
now UConn isn't what they, UConn – I remember UConn won 111 games straight.
Yeah.
And they normally win every year.
They're not that.
Yeah, yeah.
But the women, those five, Buckers and Brink and Juju and Kaitlyn Clark
and Angel Reese and Cardosa.
You know, to be honest, man, I think I look from, like,
the marketing side of the game,
and right now,
this is the hottest time
for women's basketball.
If I'm the dub,
I will make an exception
right now and say,
all right, enter.
We're taking out the age limit and the grade image,
which means Juju will jump into the draft.
Juju.
Hell, no.
If I'm Juju, I ain't jumping nowhere.
I ain't giving him my NIL money for no $76,000.
You got your damn mind, Gil.
Listen, NIL deal, the NIL deal, it can travel with you to the pros too.
But the thing about the NIL
deal is if she
jumps from USC and then
with the number two pick, she's with the
Sparks, what do you think about that
marketing bag now?
Because she's going to only be 18
years old. Now, that means
she still has all the youth to her disposal with selling jerseys, with, you know, shoes.
If, you know, Nike gives her a shoe or Jordan Brand gives her a shoe, whatever she wants to sell, her age is the demanding of that product.
Right.
Right.
You know, Caitlyn, she's 22.
Juju's 18.
Right.
Right. Right? So when Juju comes,
that means sophomores
and freshmen in high school,
sophomores, juniors, seniors
will buy her product. Freshman class
of college, sophomore, junior, they're going to buy
her product. So she's got the eight-year gap
of product being sold.
So you want them to be, because
can women, young
ladies, can they go into the draft like the guys can?
No.
How long they got to be in college?
Four years or by the age of 22.
Man.
So they lose the youth.
They come out as women, right?
So the people that looked up to them, they became the ops anyway.
people that that looked up to them they became the ops anyway so like my daughter right that's her teammate they're gonna be um they're gonna be going against each other um my mood so juju
cake so juju can't come out even if you wanted to she has to wait till she's a senior the only
the only girls that allowed to come the only women are at this point it would be considered
girls still the only girls that are allowed to come into the NBA is overseas.
Euro.
Well, it's not technically
Euro. As long as you're born
born, born born.
So all Americans, go over there, have your child,
then come back.
Well, Juju, stack your paper
with this NIL. So that way, when you come
out and you get 85,000, you're like,
man, I done made me 10 M's in college, so I'm straight.
If that's the case, then WNB is going to be ruined
because that means you're going off of the notion of,
well, they can't stay in college forever. you're going off of the notion of,
well, they can't stay in college forever.
If that's going to be your play,
that they got to come here at some point,
then you're losing.
They do.
You're losing. And unfortunately, that's it.
James Harden, only if he would shave his beard
to win a championship, that is gone. Harden is prepared to let go of his signature facial hair if that's what it takes to win a title.
Gil, what would you give up?
OK, Gil, I tell you what, you got a little goatee. Nah, I know you get it up.
Would you give up sex for a year to win an NBA title?
Hell yeah. A year? A year?
Well, I got it.
I have a hand on it.
I have a hand on it.
My hand's in my pocket.
Oh no.
Yo, yo.
Hey, listen.
I've had an argument with men.
I had an argument with women. Never had one
with my hand on. Never.
That's alright. Never.
There ain't no sex like that argument sex to make up. Never. That's all right. Never. That ain't no sex
like that argument sex you can make up.
Man, I'm the bad kind. Man, I start
an argument on purpose. You make me
sick. What?
Come home late. I come home late. I be in the park.
Where you been?
I'm sitting out in the driveway
because I'm just going to start an argument.
I was supposed to be home 15 minutes ago.
I'm just sitting in the driveway.
Yeah, that's cute.
That's what I'm saying.
Ain't nothing like that.
Ain't nothing like that makeup on.
Uh-uh, Gil.
Ain't nothing like makeup.
Yeah, in your 20s.
That's fun and dandy until your windows start getting busted.
Oh, that's even better.
That's even better.
Hey, I'm looking.
I'm looking at the car. I'm looking at the car
while she's doing it.
She's doing a number on that car.
I know in 20 minutes later
it's going to be on the cracker.
I'll give up
sex for a year for a championship ring.
I don't know about that, G.
I won't give up no money for you.
You on your own on that deal.
I'll give up sex before I give up a billion dollars.
If they say give, I ain't gonna do nothing.
You got a hundred million.
Take off one million for a ring.
Depending on where I am in my career, I'm like, I don't know about all that, man.
I'll give up a million dollars before I give up sex.
You got your damn mind.
Crazy as hell, huh?
You crazy.
Hold on. How much did you say I got?
Huh?
How much you say I got? $100 million? $99.
I got $90.
And you out your damn mind.
What can I do with $90
that I can do with $100?
I don't know.
There's some things you can do with
$100 that you can't do
with $99. Because once you stop at $90, there's 10 more you can do with a hundred that you can't do with 99 because once you stop at 90
there's 10 more extra you would have
had to buy something and you just spent it on
women. I'm good.
Nah, you're not finna have
my scrotum
sagging like syrup bottles.
Oh no.
I got the free willy. Free willy.
Willy jumped out that water.
I say, hey, you must say, hey, listen,
when you have a baby mama like me,
trust me, sex is the last thing you want to think about.
I haven't let you convince me about that one yet.
You want to think about it?
Trust me, I'd rather win a championship.
Hey, listen,
I was in child support court
55 times.
55.
I mean, I'm 55.
I'm the Mayweather.
I'm 55 and 0.
But the fact that
I'm good.
Hey, I commend,
I commend guys
that's never had to go through that.
I think, I think, you know,
early on we went through it
because we were young,
you know, and on we went through it because we were young, you know.
And I remember, like, when I was going through therapy
and, you know, we going back and forth.
And I remember the lady told me, she said,
uh, Mr. Sharp, are you arguing to see who's right
or are you arguing for what's right?
She said, because there are two different things now.
You know, I sat back.
I'm like, well, damn.
I'm saying to myself, I want to be right.
Damn, what's right?
I want to be right.
And so she said, well, Mr. Sharp.
Now, if you argue for right.
OK, you have valid points.
But if you're arguing
just to be right,
you're not going to get anywhere.
And you're going to find yourself
in these situations again.
And so you know what?
Sometimes I found out, Gail,
it's better to keep the peace
than to be right.
And so once I started
looking at it through that prism,
because, you know, hey,
and then I was like, okay,
kids going to be, I don't want
to be, I don't want to be, here I am, you know,
kids 13, 14, 15,
and they see their mom and dad going back and
forth over some penny bull jive,
it ain't even worth it. I give up.
Yeah,
not me, Unc.
Nah, not me, Unc.
Listen, Unc,
I'm one of those,
it's just something about winning, Unc.
It just makes,
it just gets me horny
at night, Unc. That's the, just, I want
to be right, Unc. Yes, Adal. That's the, just what I want to be right up.
Yes, Adal.
Hey, listen.
If you say, what color is the sky?
I'm going to look out there first.
Then come out there and place the bet.
And if I, what you say, I'm going to wait until, like, I'm like, yeah, it's black out there.
It could be daytime.
I guarantee you, I'm going to go out there until it goes nighttime and say, I told you so.
Nah.
Nah, I'm just, you know why I think the thing is, Gil, like, when you win,
and I'm glad
because, you know, people, you know, a lot of
times they're like, well, Shannon, which would you
rather have, a Super Bowl ring or a Hall of Fame
ring? I say, well, I'm glad I don't
have to make that decision because I can have them both.
But, for me,
do you know how many men have
won Super Bowls? There's 53. There's like
80 guys per team getting a Super
Bowl. So if you go back,
there are like 25,000 men
that got Super Bowl rings.
There are less than 500 men that's in the Hall of
Fame.
So you put a, you know, you forced me to say it.
I'm going to take the Hall of Fame.
Of course.
Listen, that's a different jacket, huh?
Yeah.
That's a different jacket, right?
You know, that's a, you know, when people talk about games,
that's the type of game you want to be in.
Yeah.
Yeah, you want to be, that's a Hall of Fame game.
Yeah. That's your sports of game you want to be in. Yeah. Yeah, you want to be in that Hall of Fame game. Yeah, that's your sports heaven.
Yeah.
That's where all the great players go.
Yep.
To pass away.
Yep.
So, for me, yeah, it's a no-brainer.
The Knicks all-star Jalen Brunson suffered a bruised knee versus the Cavs.
Brunson was helped off the floor because of a left knee injury
in the first minute of a 107-98 win over the Caval. Brunson was helped off the floor because of a left knee injury in the first minute of a
107-98 win over
the Cavaliers. Give them credit. They played extremely
well. Dante DiVincenzo
was outstanding. Even Josh
Hart had a triple-double, had 19 rebounds.
Pimido told reporters after the game,
Brunson had a knee contusion and
x-rays were negative.
The coach said he had no timeline
for Brunson's return.
When I seen that, I was trying to figure out if he bumped knees.
I was looking at the same thing.
I didn't see it.
It looked like it could have been an ACL tear.
It looked like it because it was on a plant.
So he probably just knee buckled.
Probably just one of those freak little things that just caused some bruising in there.
He is the heart and soul of that team, right?
Yes.
No matter how much we say he ain't the guy, he proves he is the guy.
He's a guy.
Right?
He is the guy for that team. He's one of those guys that, just like a Jokic,
you can't see their talent through your scouting.
They got to play.
No matter what drills you put them in, they are just basketball players.
Hopefully, he can get back in time where they don't lose much momentum.
Because he is the heart. He's the finisher. He's the guy who keeps that thing going. get back in time where they don't lose, you know, much more momentum, you know,
because he is the heart. He's the finisher. He's the guy who keeps that thing going.
And now that now the ball got to go back to Randall's hand and we don't know what's about to happen.
I don't know if he's going to come back. You think he'll be able to come back with that shoulder?
Who, Randall? Drew Randall. Yeah.
We don't know. We don't know.
But I know, hey, hey, hey, hey.
I know one thing.
The team is back here if you come back soon.
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Gil, it's time for our last segment of the night,
and it's called Q&A.
Let's take a listen to what we have.
Let's take a listen to what we have.
Angelita Marie, Shannon, you rock.
Thank you for sharing your stories, your sibling love and business wisdom.
I'm about to enter the workforce again, and you are my professional black role model.
Angelita, thank you very much.
I really appreciate that. My family is everything to me because at the end of the day, this is why I do what I do because of them.
And I told my grandmother on her deathbed that I had it and I got to hold it down.
And so nothing is going to get me off this perch. But God is, first of all, God has already placed me up here.
So they can't knock me off even if they try.
So whatever God has put before me, all that other stuff that's going on is not going to impact me.
So I really appreciate that.
I try to be as positive as I possibly can.
And Gil, this week, this weekend, Friday and Saturday, I had a couple of sign-ins.
this weekend, Friday and Saturday,
I had a couple of sign-ins.
Man, the love. You don't realize
the impact that you have on people
until you come in contact with them personally.
And to hear
people like, man,
we loved you at the old
show. We love your own first take,
but hey, Club Shea Shea and
Nightcap, bro, you do it.
And the guy told me, he came up, he got a bottlea and Nightcap, bro, you do it. And the guy told me,
he came up, he got a bottle,
and he said, man, look here.
You can't go nowhere.
Because you speak for us.
You speak for a lot of us.
He said, man, hey,
all that other stuff that they be saying,
he said, don't worry about it. You know what you are.
And people love you
and they respect you. Now, you always going to have some... And I'm like, and I'm looking at him, he said, man, I about it. You know what you are. And people love you and they respect you.
Now, you always going to have some.
And I'm like, and I'm looking at him.
He said, man, I'm telling you, bro.
He said, it means a lot to have somebody like you that speak for a lot of us because we don't have that platform.
We don't have that voice.
So, hey, you stay on your grind.
Don't you let nobody interfere with what you got going on.
I said, my man, I appreciate that.
I appreciate that. I appreciate that. And to see
all, I mean, black,
white, I mean, so women,
I mean, it's just like, it was just
unbelievable, the outpouring of
love and respect that I've
received when I do these signings
in different places, be it Vegas, be it
Atlanta, be it
Jersey, near the Philly border,
going to Denver, I'm going to Denver.
I'm going to a lot of different places.
Oh, yeah.
People driving two plus hours because they can't get it in their state.
They're driving across state lines.
One guy, you know, bought two, three cases.
We were like, I'm buying this for my son, my two sons, my husband, my brother.
I mean, it was just, it was unbelievable.
And I'm like, man, you don't know who's listening, who's watching.
But you are impacting.
And so try to make sure, I just always try to make sure I'm doing, I'm impacting people in a positive way. You know, I think because we are doing our content from behind closed doors, right?
This is not like we're on the field and we can feel the love in real time, right?
So when we're doing our thing, just like we're doing here, we have the chat, we can see the
chat, but we don't really know the impact that we're doing here. Yeah, we have the chat. We can see the chat. But we don't really know the impact that we're doing.
Be correct.
Everything is in confinement.
You know, same thing.
I go to my son's game, my daughter's game,
and all the kids come up to me.
Like, you know, they're like, can I take a picture?
And I'd be forgetting.
Oh, I seen you.
I seen you on Shannon Sharp, man.
I seen you.
Oh, catch your shirt on.
Like, it just it just
it makes you want to do right and watch it makes you it does it really does right it makes you want
to keep going and you know like even even when you you started right and as a content creator
you know someone who's in the tv realm too you. I'm watching trying to figure out my lane.
And when you pulled out the Hennessy and the Black and Mild, I was like, he's pushing the limits.
Right? You need someone to test the limits because Charles Barkley, you're giving everyone else a little bit more wiggle room
than they had before.
Right.
And, you know,
us 35 to 40-year-olds
that's getting into the podcast game
is because of what you did
on first tape.
Yeah.
And that's the thing.
Undisputed.
Undisputed.
Yeah.
You broke down so many barriers that gave, like, it was strict.
Like, when we came behind the camera, we was, you know, good old boys.
Lord, did Unk say that?
And it gave a little bit more relief, like, oh, I can do that too. And then now, you know, me, you know, getting to talk with you, you know, every week,
it just opens me up a little bit more
on how much effort greatness puts into it.
So when I'm sitting at home, I'm like,
Shannon just said he got to fly here, fly here, right?
Let me go online and see what's hot, what's content.
Let me do some research.
So I'm sitting here three, four hours just looking at stuff, tapes, looking at interviews, watching.
I seen a Terry Crews.
He threw some gems, you know what I mean?
And, you know, something he said that just, it just stuck with me.
Like, and he said, you know, when I first started started when i got paid zero dollars five thousand then
boom boom boom and i and i was grateful for every single one of them i didn't look back
and say man they should have paid me more right i remember that jim he said you can't nod yes
and mean no.
And he says, because I saw the terms of the contract, I was going to get $4,000 for two days.
I can't then in turn agree to the contract and then go back.
The movie becomes, man, I only got $4,000.
That's what you agreed to.
You agreed to.
They gave you what the contract stipulated.
So he said, you can't nod yes
and mean no.
And he's absolutely right.
That was powerful.
What is that?
K-G-M-A
89. Gil, we need you to share
two broke stories on Nightcap.
Broke?
I guess
he means people going broke?
Shit, that ain't just
name anybody who's retired.
I just played.
Oh, they say you was talking about being
broke earlier.
Oh, yeah. No, Gil ain't broke.
This is how
the NBA is, right?
Okay, so we got March Madness coming up, right?
Right. So championship ends around March, what is it?
April, the beginning of the first weekend in April.
The first Monday, yeah.
So I go to the championship, we lost.
A week, two weeks later, we're entering the draft.
Now, think about what I'm saying.
We enter the draft, that means we got to get an agent. right? Since we're not in school and we have an agent,
that agent is going to tell us where he thinks we're going to be, right? Projections,
are you going to be in the first round? So from there, you got to open up bank accounts if you
don't have any, right? You got to take out loans, right, on your projection because you don't have
no money, but your parents think you got money, so they're going to want some new things.
So for the most part, if you're a first-round pick, you're going to get about that summer about $300,000, $400,000.
If you're somebody like Wimby, you have no limit to your agent.
He's the number one pick.
He has the black card for his agent.
Yeah, he probably got at least a $10 million limit.
$10 million limit as a rookie.
Or no, not as a rookie, just that summer.
Yeah.
Now, think about that.
I'm taking out $100,000, $200,000, $300,000 just to survive that summer, right?
Eat, new car, get a rental place.
Because you're paying for the rental, not your agent.
It's just his money.
You got to repay him back.
Yeah, yeah.
He's just running it.
Right.
So this is April, May, June.
Right.
You know, the draft came at the end of June.
Now you really are right now.
I already spent two hundred some thousand and I think thirty one. That already spent 200 some thousand and i'm 31 that's 300 some thousand
now i still got july august september october i don't get my first piece of money to november 14th
so six and a half months before i left school of money I've been spending that I haven't even got a check for.
And you've been spending because you ain't never had money like that before.
So you're spending.
Yeah, you're spending.
But I miscalculated because, you know, I thought I was going to be a top 18 pick when I end up being a second round pick.
So I spent my money.
So I'm begging for a two year deal and I'm on a budget.
So I'm on.
They had to budget me for two years
and that budget was
after my bills, which was a car
in my house,
I had $500
that I can spend per month.
You ain't getting no hoo-ha.
You couldn't take nobody out?
See, that's why
you always talk about the haircut. You ain't had no money. I had a girlfriend. you couldn't take nobody out? That was, see, that was your hair. That was what y'all
were talking about the haircut.
You ain't had no money.
I had a girlfriend, Unc.
Oh, okay.
Well, you straight.
You was straight.
It wasn't mine.
It was ours.
Right?
Oh, Lord have mercy.
It was ours.
When you making $500 a week,
it's ours, right?
So whoever felt like
she needed to be with at that time,
I just had to shut up.
And that's what I did, Unc. You had to take it. You had to that time, I just had to shut up. And that's what I did.
You had to take it.
You had to take it.
I just had to use that anger and that pain to work on my game.
But there were some times where towards the end of the month, I didn't have enough money to drive back and forth from the practice facility back to my place.
So I'll stay in the gym.
I'll stay in the movie theater room.
Shit, we had food.
We had the Gatorades, the waters, the showers, steam room.
Shit, this is home.
So you pulled an Ocho before Ocho pulled an Ocho.
Oh, yeah.
What year you came out?
What year you came out, G?
The one.
I think that's the same year Ocho came out.
Listen, I had out, Gil. The one. I think that's the same. Your Ocho came out. Listen, I was having,
listen, I had girls pull up.
When you ain't take,
you bring girls
to the facility.
Nice.
They're like,
movie theater,
movie theater.
I'm telling my,
I mean,
and they probably
know no better than this.
Like, oh my God, Gil,
I love what you done
with the place.
Hey, yes, you know.
Like, I ain't, y'all done with the place it is Antoine Jamison
right here you know Antoine right is it I'm over here listen and that's that was that was that
thing so for two years I was really sacrificing but to be honest man I'm glad that happened to me
yeah well I didn't spend no money I just didn't have no money to spend, Gil.
My rookie contract was $63,000.
$63,500.
And they gave me $22,500 as a signing bonus.
So I made about $85,000.
I sent my signing bonus to my brother.
Because I didn't have no bank account.
So he did everything.
He had to sign.
He had to sign to get my apartment.
I couldn't get an apartment.
My credit was,
man,
they needed a crane to pull my credit up.
That's how low it was.
Hey,
so everything,
he had to co-sign
to get my car.
He had to co-sign
to get my apartment.
That's like,
I'm in the NFL
and I got a co-sign.
Yeah.
But it is what it is.
It is what it is.
But,
hey,
and they just like,
hey,
and I remember he's like, it is. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but,
but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, man Gil you couldn't hit me in the ass with a red apple you know your boy was doing it I popped that top I pulled right up to the club
and let that top come back
it's your boy
you know what I'm saying Gil
I step up on that band you know what I'm saying
hold on
you said 65
I mean 63.5
you couldn't even afford today's
woman cause they want
no no no.
No, no, no.
Dude, right now, huh?
65, they would have looked at you.
Yeah.
Hey, no, hell no.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
No, I ain't.
But see, back then,
but see, here's the thing, though, Gil.
Even though they didn't know how,
see, the salaries wasn't posted
like they are now.
Okay.
So I'm in the NFL. Yeah. That now. Okay. So I'm in the NFL.
Yeah.
That's all they know.
I'm in the NFL.
So he got to be making some money.
Oh, you're right.
Baby, I ain't.
You're right.
You come out better dealing with a banker than dealing with your boy.
The only thing I do, I play on Sunday.
He work five days a week, but so do I.
I get Tuesdays off.
Other than that, he might got me.
He might got me.
So if I was you, I wouldn't fool with me because I ain't got it like that.
Because I got to send a third of my money back to Glenville.
I got a granddad's sister.
So, baby, I ain't got much.
I ain't got much because that's what I told him on the first date.
When you came out there talking about you going, what go with lobster?
Condoms.
We going to have to set it off up in here if you get that.
I ain't got no money like that.
So I get it, Gil.
Hey, money be tough.
Hey, like I said, you weren't the first rounder.
I wasn't the first rounder.
I ain't have bread like that.
It is what it is.
Hey, I don't know if I could have made it, Gil.
I don't know who I could have got this.
I'd have had to probably get a teammate to sign for me.
I probably would have asked Dennis Smith.
He probably would have been my first choice.
And then I'd have asked Steve Atwater.
Okay.
If I didn't have a brother.
Okay.
If I didn't have a brother in the league, I'd have asked one of those guys.
Miles Conner said, big fan of the pod, fellas.
Celebrated my son's fifth month on Earth today.
What's your guy's favorite shoe to hoop and work out in?
Keep up the amazing work.
Bro, I ain't hooping.
Hooping shoes for me,
they for walking around.
Now to work out in,
I'm a Metcon guy.
Because I need something with a flat,
a really flat surface.
Because I still squat. I do leg press. I do Bulgarian split squats. I'm a Metcon guy because I need something with a flat, with a flat, a really flat surface because I,
you know,
I still squat.
I do leg press.
I do Bulgarian split squats.
I still do stuff like that.
So I need something with a flat sole.
So the Metcon,
that's my workout shit.
Good Gil,
what you hooping in?
The Gil ones?
You know it.
You know it all.
But not the ones that just came out.
My original ones that was made for my feet. Okay. The new ones. You know it, but not the ones that just came out. My original ones
that was made for my feet.
Right.
The new one,
you know,
technology is improved.
You know that,
right?
You know,
technology is improved,
right?
No,
no,
no,
no,
no,
not in a good way.
Cause they done put some,
some boost on it.
That boost got the extra
and it's a little bit heavier
than it was before.
But I love running shoes.
I love light. I love light. So if I'm not, before, but I love running shoes. I love light.
I love light. So if I'm not
in running shoes, I'm in sandals.
So I'll go to the gym in some sandals on.
Man,
your feet gonna be so flat, man.
I'm in there
some, hey, I'm the only one in there
with some sandals on.
And then when I'm doing
like stuff that's not like
like elliptical or something,
I'll take my shoes off
and just be in my socks in there.
My feet need to breathe.
Okay.
Keith asks,
Jerry Jones says
he doesn't think the franchise
has a culture issue
or a sense of entitlement issue.
Gil, do the Cowboys have a winning
culture?
How the hell am I supposed to know?
Hey, listen,
I know all black people look alike.
I'm not Ocho, okay?
I am not Ocho.
I don't know what
Cowboys is over there doing.
Okay?
I'm just deciding to be a Rams fan.
So ask me in about seven, eight months what the Rams is doing.
Okay?
I don't know what Jerry Jones over there doing.
Yeah, I do think they have an issue.
There are some things that were said.
I think Jerry needs to, I mean, look, no one wants to,
if somebody
came in from the outside,
came to you in our house,
and they said, well, Shannon,
this is what's going on in your house, and this is where I see the problem.
Or someone came to your house
from the outside and said, okay, Gil, this is where
I see the problem. We're going to feel pushback.
What you mean? I'm on a
tight ship here. Everything is
impeccable. Everything's put back in place.
The kids are respectful, blah, blah. But no, that's not
what I mean. So I'm not surprised
Jerry said this
because what's he supposed to say? You're
right, because then that makes him look
bad.
So Jerry didn't say anything
that I didn't expect him to say
or any. I mean, that's didn't expect him to say or any.
I mean, that's just like when somebody tell your child bad.
My child ain't bad.
Them teachers don't know how to talk to my kid.
Your kid bad as hell.
But is it one of those things where he doesn't want to seem like he's doing a bad job as an owner so he doesn't want to fix anything?
Like, what does he need to improve on?
Because, I mean, it is the Cowboys.
Get out of the way.
But see, that's the thing, though, Gil.
Because what's the incentive for him to win if he has the most valuable franchise,
he makes the most money,
and he hadn't won a Super Bowl in 30 years?
So what's his incentive?
Yeah.
Pride. He's already the most Super Bowl in 30 years. So what's his incentive? Yeah. Pride.
He's already the most recognizable owner in the NFL.
He's the face of his team.
No other owner is the face of their team.
Jerry Jones is the face of his team.
He wants that.
That's why he stays front and center.
So, okay, so, okay, now,
since we know that about Jerry Jones, how does the legacy of the players that play on that team, that means their legacy can't be complete because if the owner, was the Dax, right? Yeah. His legacy is going down because of not his performance.
Because of the owner doesn't want to win.
He has nothing to prove.
Right.
So that's how we feel in the NBA, too.
There's some owners that their franchise is just worth so much that they don't have anything to prove as owners.
And there's players on there who's being judged for what they're doing.
So if I'm handicapped by this guy's ego, why no one ever takes that in consideration?
Well, I think the thing is that you look at some of the guys, let's just take, let's take Micah.
I think Micah is going to be so great through the course of his career.
You're going to have no choice but to put him in the hall. You look at what CD's been able to do, and he's gotten better and better. Because, like,
you look at the guys that they drafted. Like, Larry Allen was so great. He won a Super Bowl
early in his career, but he was so great. You can make a case Larry Allen is the greatest
offensive lineman because he could play all the positions on the offensive line, and he was an
all-pro in those positions.
You look at DeMarcus Ware, had a great career,
but he won this championship in Denver.
And so that's going to be very interesting.
I don't think the voters, I don't think they factor that in.
They just look at the play on the field.
They look at, and they expect you to be able to overcome you know
poor. And I don't think Jerry
is a poor owner. I just think the thing is that
he gets in the way because he wants the credit
and he does a lot of talking
and he doesn't empower his coach. He
emasculates his coach because Jerry
is going to want to talk to the team.
The only time I heard
Mr. Modell talk is that
I think the AFC championship game,
he talked, and then we won the Super Bowl.
And he told us how proud he was of us.
He said, I'm proud.
He said, you did me proud today.
He said, I'll never forget it.
He said, I'll never forget this moment.
I'll never forget what you guys did for me.
And it's a shame that they haven't put him in the Hall of Fame.
The way they did him is wrong.
He took the team and he moved, went to Baltimore.
The NFL made him leave the colors and the records in Cleveland.
So if they put a team back, the record, they never did that with anybody else.
There's Al Davis moved up and down the coast.
And here they are, took everything with them.
The Rams moved, took everything with them.
The Texans, the Titans, the Oilers, they moved.
They didn't make Bud Adams leave anything.
They didn't make Al Davis leave anything.
They didn't make Georgia Frontier.
They didn't make Stan Kroenke, but they did that to him.
And they wrong.
They wrong for doing it.
Jim Ursa left like a thief in the night.
Packed up the Mayflower moving bands. Didn't tell the NFL jack.
And they took
the Baltimore Colts
and took the records right there with them. And the
colors. But Art Modell had to
come up with a new name. Had to
start from scratch. They did him wrong.
And now the voters
need to do him right and put him in the hall.
That's facts. That's facts.
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Eleni Ray says,
Shannon, just for the record,
I was actually busy Thursday night, not sleeping.
My actual question is, who's going to be in the Final Four in March Madness Bracket?
Who's going to be in my Final Four in March Madness Bracket?
I tell you, not Molly.
UConn.
Anybody but UConn.
I don't know.
I'm going to have to pick it up because I know we're going to have to do a bracket.
I've been so busy doing other things that I really haven't played.
But you know what I do?
I watch once they get to the tournament time.
I'll look at the tournament, watch the tournament, make an educated guess.
There's a reason why nobody's ever picked a perfect bracket
and nobody's ever going to pick a perfect bracket.
It ain't going to happen.
But I got Louisville for the
girls and then obviously
Arizona for the men.
Man, y'all
might not even make it out of the ACC.
Andrea
Jordan asks,
does NBA
owners, teams, front player
salary in advance like NFL.
So can you go cut, can an NBA player go take out an advance on next year's salary?
No, no.
During the summer?
Okay, so since I am, I can say I know in the NBA, I don't know if Jalen Brown has an agent, but I had the largest deal done by the player himself.
I did my own contract.
I read everybody else's contract and then took out things I liked from everyone's.
Kobe and Tim Duncan had something that no other player had.
And Kobe got all of his money September.
So he got all of his money September. So he got all of his money September.
Tim Duncan got some money in August.
So the season starts in November, October.
Tim Duncan got some of his money in August.
And then right before, then when the season started.
So October 1st, training camp.
Training camp, I got
85% of my money
during training camp.
And then the other 15%,
the rest of it.
Those are the only two.
I had Bobby Sura.
Bobby Sura and his contract had,
he got all of his money, first check.
So he was making $5 million.
So he got one check for $5 million November 14th.
So what happens after that is,
do you get fined or anything?
You have to write the team back a check.
Okay.
Faye said, hey, Shannon McGill,
you have a great collection of kicks.
What's your favorite shoe? Who is your favorite shoe plug?
Can you share with us? No.
Absolutely not.
Listen, you know.
That's why my shoe plug.
Hey, hey, hey, man. Hey, Shannon.
I know you, I saw you had some golden eggs.
Can you show me where that goose at that's laying them no i'm i'm with adidas so that that's it my shoe plug is adidas.com that's it i i built up uh uh i built up some over the course of last 10-15 years i built up some great
some great friendships.
I know now that when Khaled come out with a shoe.
I just thought about it.
You stingy as hell, huh?
What happened?
No, you got to give up.
Just a little plug.
The small plug.
The one you started with.
I ain't got that plug.
Oh, well, okay.
We doing that to these people.
She's asking well
uh
me and uh
Julie
uh
we have a great
relationship
and she's a
uh
general manager
partner at
Wish for Kicks
in Atlanta
so
a lot of my
plugs
a lot of my
stuff come from
her
um
and then concept but y'all can't get anything A lot of my stuff comes from her.
And then concept.
But y'all can't get anything.
Had to hit her with it, but you still can't get nothing.
Yeah.
Ashby, but it's too late.
I'm going to say, bro.
I get a plug. So people are like, hey, man, can you hook me up?
So let me get this right. You want
me to forego my size 13
and get you a size 8
or get you a size T.
So you want
me to give up? I got an opportunity
to get the
chunky dunks.
What, the hottest you out?
Nah, bro, I don't want that.
Hey, Mr. Sharp, we have your 13.
Nah, you know, hey,
I got a homeboy.
I'm going to get him that lever.
Really?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
No.
Unfortunately, no.
Listen,
for the women,
won't you just call Larson Pippen?
Right? Call Larson Pippen. Yeah, yeah just call Larson Pippen, right?
Call Larson Pippen.
Yeah, yeah.
Call Larson Pippen, right?
And, you know, she got Michael Jordan's son who got him a shoe store.
There you go right there.
Yeah, I need to get on the trophy room plug list.
Question of the day.
Could Jokic be in the gold conversation if he wins two more titles and two more
MVPs? Hell yeah.
Man, you know, boy, four MVPs,
hell yeah, puts you in the gold conversation.
Do you know, now you're talking about
LeBron, Russell,
Will, Jordan,
and Kareem.
No, they're five guys.
They got four more MVPs.
And then you talk about three and three and three more titles,
and he's going to be the final MVP in all of them.
Facts.
Facts.
And Gil, he's 29.
He ain't 34.
Gil, he's 29.
But no, no, no, no, no.
His 29 is a little different.
He ain't athletic.
So he can come back.
That's my point.
He can play another 10 years because his game.
Gil.
No.
The question is, does he want to play?
Does he have a burning desire?
But because his game is not predicated on athleticism,
he can play longer because,
like Tom Brady. Now, just imagine
if Tom Brady was reliant on legs
or Peyton Manning was reliant
on legs.
That's why they were able to play.
Now, Tom played 23 years.
It'd have been very interesting had
Peyton Manning not suffered that nerve injury
how long he could have actually played.
But when you're not reliant on athleticism,
that's what make LeBron.
But LeBron can think the game through.
He's like, you know what?
I'm just going to, you know what?
I'm just going to post.
I ain't going to, I ain't going to, I ain't going to, you know.
And he, once he added that three ball,
the man shooting 40 plus percent from the three.
I know, but did you see Dirk those last five years?
Yeah, yeah.
He looked like the 10-man on Wizard of Oz.
He just walking down the...
Yeah, but here's the thing.
Just think about if he was athletic, how he would look the last 10 years,
not the last five.
No, no, but know what I'm saying.
When you're athletic,
let's say like LeBron,
we can see
he's still faster,
can jump higher
than
80% of the NBA,
which lets you know how fast
and how high he was when he was younger.
Yes, absolutely.
When he's slowing down, his slowdown is still better than everybody else.
Well, Jokic, you're at the bottom of athleticism and the bottom of speed.
When you slow down, you're walking.
Yes.
Those pick and rolls, like, I think—
Now that you're going to be picking pops.
Yeah, I think what happens is when they start like targeting him
on picking rules
for real
and he just
can't move
the way he
used to move in
he's going to be
a real liability
defensively
and I think
he's just going to
call it quits
I think
around 34
35
yeah he's going to
call it quits
anyway
because I don't know
well he's made it clear
like it's not like
basketball is like the end allall, be-all.
Like, he's going to die without it.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, listen, the money they're getting now,
the money they're getting now,
they're making $300 million, $400 million before they're 30.
Yeah, they say Luka's next contract might be $80 million a year,
five years for $400 million.
Luka
25.
So if he get a five year for $400,
what's he going to get at $30, Gil?
It's going to be
about five years, $500, five years,
$550. Yeah, $560.
Damn. Aaron Owens asks,
how dominant could Milwaukee have been
if Dr. J would have played with Big O and Kareem?
A great what if.
But back then, you do realize a lot of the draft,
like they went to ABA,
a lot of the draft was regional.
So whatever area you was in,
I think Kareem went to Milwaukee
because they lost the coin flip.
Yeah.
I think they was in a coin flip with the Knicks.
One team, on the phone, one team calls head,
the other team calls tails.
Hey, in the office, they flip it.
Oh, hey, it's okay, Milwaukee.
You got good.
They flip it in the office.
Ah, hell, I got to fly.
I'll argue.
No, we're going to flip that coin in front of me.
Mm-mm.
Hell, nah.
Imagine how rigged all that shit was back then.
Man. And so when doc came out doc came out what 71 doc first years with the virginia squires and you know he uh you know you think sometimes you check jump funny the money you know the ball
wasn't the only thing that was bouncing he said my money was bouncing the checks was The checks was bouncing. So they ended up selling his right to the Nets.
The Nets, it had some little financial issues.
They ended up selling.
But it was different.
The NBA was very different.
Because back then, a team could draft a player.
The player would stay in college, and they still had his rights when he came out.
Yep, that's what happened to Bird.
Yes.
So, you know, I don't think it would have been possible.
Question of the day.
What's your guys' dreams finals matchup this year?
Gil?
Dreams finals?
I think for ultimate ratings, it would be Boston versus Lakers
so they can break this tie.
Yeah.
I agree.
I don't think that's going to happen, though.
I mean, it could.
Listen, Boston got a 90% chance.
Yes.
Lakers, they got a 90% chance if Denver's gone.
They get, they knock,
if somebody knock the Nuggets out of the way.
As long as Nuggets in there, we got a 10% chance.
Yeah.
Keith Oliver says
Shannon
the Freak Nick documentary
is coming out
later this month
will you be making
a cameo
no
you said Freak Nick
yeah
the documentary
hey listen
listen
I
y'all know
listen
y'all know
Unc might be
in the back video
somehow
look over there
he might not.
He don't need to do a cameo.
He don't need to do a cameo in the documentary because he probably in some of the footage.
There he is.
You see right this right here?
Yep.
This right here.
I promise you this right here.
Now, this right here, this got footage not only from Freak Nick, 92 to 96.
This got Black College Beach.
This got Savannah State, Orange Crush.
This got, what else we did?
Oh, Black College Beach Week, Daytona, all that.
Right here.
I'm talking.
Oh, baby.
Oh, baby.
Yes.
O'Shea Sharp.
O'Shea Sharp.
Hey, your boy was Spike Lee.
Your boy was Spike Lee back then.
Y'all better stop.
This right here. Never, ever. If y'all break in the There are this right here.
Never, ever.
If y'all break in the house, you'll never find it.
Because I brought it out because I had a feeling somebody will ask about it.
But this goes right back to the ball.
Right back to the bank ball.
This right here.
As a matter of fact, if I ever get sick for more than a week,
I'm going to smash the hell out of it.
Y'all ain't going to never get the footage of y'all piss right here. This right here. Everybody going to be watching just to look
for her. They'll be looking for her. Oh no, oh no, oh no. But I had a feeling somebody would ask
something about Freak Day. No, but your favorite arc was Smackdown in the Middle, 92 to 96.
I was in it.
Hell, that's why I moved to Atlanta.
Me and my brother came for the first time in 92.
He said, bro, this ain't for me.
I said, it's for me.
I'm going to be back.
It ain't for you.
It's for me.
As a matter of fact, Prime had a club.
What was that club?
I think it was 112 was popping.
Diamonds and Pearls.
Everything was off Cheshire Bridge.
Whoo, lit.
Your boy was smack dab in the middle.
When I say smack dab, oh, no.
I hope they catch you.
I hope they catch you.
They can't kill.
I hope they catch you.
I've heard a lot of stories.
And I've told some stories, a lot of stories. But that freak nigg stuff, oh, they asked me to be a lot of stories. And I've told some stories, a lot of stories.
But that Freak Nick stuff, oh, they asked me to be a part of it.
I said, no, sir.
I'm going to my grave with this here.
Nah, they got you, y'all.
You better watch.
Hey, Gil, when I go before the man, if I, when I go before the man upstairs,
he said, well, Shannon, can you tell me about Freak Nick?
I said, what you remember about Freak Nick?
He says, I don't remember anything.
I said, I don't either.
I don't either.
You erased my memory.
This is gone.
This is gone right there.
Oh, your boy.
Ooh.
Your boy was out.
Out, out.
All the way.
Damn.
Yeah, Gil.
Oh, yeah.
Go ahead and have another one.
They need to go ahead and buy.
No, they don't.
No, they don't.
No, they don't.
No, they don't. No, they don't. No, they don't.
We shut it down.
Look, you're going to see 85 people.
I mean, 85 runs through the city.
Six lanes.
Bro, cars bumper to bumper.
Now people just out their doors.
They twerking.
People just dancing.
In the middle of the interstate.
It'll be like the 405.
Gridlock and people twerking and people got their cars and they
dancing, music playing. Ain't nobody
moving nowhere. Who started
that?
They started it, first of all, it started as
a literal picnic for the
AU Center. Morehouse,
Morris Brown, Clark,
Spellman.
But you know what?
You know how we do, Gil. You know
how we do.
Now, what happens if we throw a party?
What
happens if we throw a party?
Hmm.
And Morris
Brown, Morris Brown, Morehouse, Clark,
Spellman. Yeah yeah I think it's
four or five schools
there we go, we gotta go, we gotta go
we gotta go, there ain't no more, no more
no more, uh uh
y'all if it get me in trouble, I've been good
I've been good to be, got better than that one
got better than that one, whoo
but over the days
Lord have mercy
if I had a thousand tongues Lord I couldn't thank you enough for where you brought me from but over the days, Lord, have mercy.
If I had a thousand tons, Lord,
I couldn't thank you enough for where you brought me from.
And I ain't just talking about Glenville.
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