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Episode Date: January 16, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are joined by Chief Royal Ramey, Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer of the Forestry and Fire Recruitment Program (FFRP). Later, Unc and Ocho... discuss the Miami Heat having an “accounting error” that left Jimmy Butler without pay for 10 days, Neymar is in talks with three different MLS teams over possible move and much more!03:19 - Chief Royal Ramey30:35 - Jimmy Butler33:17 - Neymar to MLS38:19 - Mother went viral for inheritance43:24 - French woman scammed by fake Brad Pitt55:00 - Q and Ayyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Chief Royal Ramsey is the co-founder and chief executive officer of Forestry and Fire Recruitment
Program.
Chief Ramsey founded FFRP to help individuals who are formerly incarcerated and work within
fire camps overcome barriers that prevent them from entering the professional field
of firefighting.
The Forestry and Fire Recruitment Program maintains a 10% rate of recidivism across
the 200-plus-placed employment compared to the California state average of 42% and 82%
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Chief, thanks for joining us today, man. How you doing?
Oh man, I'm doing well. So Shannon, how you doing, sir? I'm doing great, bro. I'm doing great. Thanks
for joining us. Nah, thank you for having me. Chief, what's up, baby? What's up? Oh, sure, baby.
What's the deal? Hey, dude, baby. Shoot, I'm and I'm chillin', man. Listen, have I had your hands?
I'll cut mine off, man.
That's it.
Chief, I wanna ask you this.
What led you on this journey to find, to discover,
to fund this program in which you're a part of now?
Yeah, so when I was 20 years old, I made a mistake, right?
I end up making a poor choice in life Yeah, so when I was 20 years old, I made a mistake, right?
I end up making a poor choice in life and I end up committing a crime.
We got sentenced to six years in prison.
I ended up serving four years, eight months.
And in that time, I had the opportunity to go to fire camp.
And I know like a lot of folks don't really know about that program.
And it's pretty much been around since the 1940s.
So California utilized incarcerated people to fight wildfires.
And giving them an opportunity to obviously serve the community and
going out and doing their thing.
But they get paid pretty much a dollar an hour to do this work.
So I remember around the time that I actually went to fire camp, it was, I actually got
sent by sentence and then I went to, I was in reception for a while and then they sent
me out of state from Arizona to Mississippi because the time that I got sentenced, it
was overcrowded in California.
So I had to, uh, you know, I went out and, um, you know, went to Mississippi and you
have an annual review every year.
Um, and when I, when I had the ability to go, cause I had my points dropped and
then they was like, Hey, you want to go to fire camp?
And I was like, in my mind, I'm like, what's the fire camp?
Right.
I heard, I heard about it when I actually got sentenced,
but I didn't really know.
So from there, you know, just had the opportunity.
I, you know, talked to a couple of folks.
I'm like, hey, man, you know, what's this fire camp stuff?
And they're like, hey, man, this is dope.
You know, you better food.
You know, you have the ability to go out and, you know,
have a park, like I said, with your family.
You know, you in a community, you're not locked up,
you're not in a cell.
So I was like, man, this is a good opportunity
and I can go back to California and see my family.
Haven't seen them in like 20 plus months.
So I was like, you know what,
let me just go and make it happen.
But Shannon, when I tell you I had no idea
what I was getting myself into, brother,
it was crazy, man, for real.
So, and then it led, and I grew to love it.
I had a passion for it when I got there.
And I was like, man, I could really do this.
This is something that I, you know, that I could,
you know, make happen.
I had adversity when I was younger, when I was a kid.
And I wasn't ever scared of fighting fire.
I had a couple of, you know, some experiences in my life where I had some challenges.
I almost died a couple of times.
So I was like, you know what?
This is something that I'm not scared of.
And I just loved it.
And it was dope.
So if you don't mind me asking, I'm going to ask one more question, and then I'll let
you take it.
Right.
If you don't mind me asking, what is some of the qualifications in which an inmate qualifies
for this program?
So the qualifications, you know, you can't have arson,
you can't have a sex crime.
You can't, at the time that when I was there,
you know, you couldn't have any murder
or some like any violent crime, right, innocence.
And you pretty much go through what is called a PFT.
You do some physical training.
Once you pass that, they give you a basic like S-190 class.
And this is all I'm talking about is when I was there.
And you pretty much can be able to go out and they'll send you to a fire camp.
And you're really under the qualifications of the captain.
Okay.
So it's really quick.
You know, it's like a couple of weeks, you know, process to get
you, you know, going and then you out there, you fighting fires.
Listen, one of the key words you just said, Chief is passion.
You had a passion for something.
And obviously most of the times people have a hard time finding something that they love
to do and actually having a passion for it where it doesn't become a job, it becomes something that you actually love.
Now, how do you help the participants gain the skills and the confidence needed
for such a demanding job in wildland firefighting?
Because that's, that's, that's for one, scary, two, it's life or death,
depending on the situation.
Right.
So how do you do that?
You know, helping them gain the skills. Right. So it's how do you do that?
You know, helping them gain the skills and not only gaining the skills, but you need
confidence to be able to do something like that.
And that's what the Forestry and Fire Recruitment Program is pretty much all about.
Like, you know, just like us being from the urban community, right, and having that adversity
growing up, you know, we built Fort Tuff, right?
We've been through some things, right? And having that adversity growing up, you know, we built for it tough, right? We've been through some states, right?
So it's really easy to chop it up with folks
and be like, listen, like, you know,
you already been through that road in your life, right?
You already had, you know,
you probably the black sheep of your family, you know,
you probably disappointed your family in some moment.
And like, this is an opportunity for you to be able
to utilize the knowledge, skills, and abilities that you have, right? In order for you to be able to utilize the knowledge, skills
and abilities that you have, right?
In order for you to be able to get a family winning career.
And it's really just being real with them.
Just like we're having a conversation right now.
It's just like, you know, hey, do you want the bag?
Everybody wants the bag.
Everybody wants the jewels.
Everybody wanna be able to have something to look forward to,
to have pride in, have purpose, right?
And it's really to really sell it and say,
look, this is a real true opportunity.
So, you know, listen to your captors, listen to,
or take this time, you know, to yourself
and really understand the process of like the mental
and emotional and the physical attributes
of like really focusing and locking in,
just like when you was on game day Ocho, you know
Yeah people up just like I do Shannon was over there
You had me pumped up earlier with some highlights in and it's like that's that's where you have to
Understand like the opportunity right?
right
um and and I think by me talking and just telling my story and
Inspiring folks and loving on folks and showing them like, look, I've been where you at.
And like, we already been through the worst.
So why not take this opportunity to get the opportunity
to be able to be a firefighter, make the bag,
you know, take care of your family and win.
Let me ask you this.
There's a lot that's been said
about the incarcerated firefighters today
that's currently fighting the fires in Los Angeles. Can you explain to us fact
of fiction of what's circulating online? How much do I don't know if you know this off
the top of your head, how much are they getting paid? And do if the only forest fires do you got good? Do you guys go fight burning building fires or is just these large-scale massive fires?
Yes, so um
When it comes to folks that's in California fire camps, they actually focus on wildland firefighting
Okay, that's what you pretty much trained in
Also though too, you know, you can you know know, respond to a flood or any like national disaster
that needs to be report when it comes to like just having body there.
And yeah, so that's pretty much that question for you Shannon.
How much you got?
What's the pay because it's been played like, okay, you get $10 an hour and then blah, blah,
you get another dollar an hour. So it's $11 hours. So if you don't mind me asking, what's the pay because it's been played like okay you get $10 hours and then blah blah you get another dollar an hour
So it's $11 hours. So if you don't mind me asking what's the pay scale? Yeah
Dollars they're making about 20 some dollars a day, you know
What I was you know
All the research that I have done and known because they've been trying to like compensate folks for being a fire camp
No, one of my CDCR partners, Fred Money,
Captain Money, he escorted me if I didn't say
that they wasn't trying to make efforts
and trying to get folks some more money,
but it is pretty much a dollar an hour
when they're out there on the fire.
But they're trying to figure it out.
But yeah, it's hard work.
You know, you're making what?
You know, $30.
$10, $12 a day.
Yeah, for the day, you know you making what you know $30. $10 $12 a day. Yeah for the day you know what I'm saying because they do 24 hour shifts and then
24 hours down and then 24 hours on so yeah it's definitely it's pretty much
the same thing as you going to college and you getting pimped you know what I'm saying.
Like you know the NIL right, now it's starting to come about, right?
Because of, like, you know, folks seeing that,
how much money that, you know, the NCAA is making, right?
Like, it's a similar kind of situation.
So you can understand what I'm saying.
But my biggest thing, though, is like,
I wanted to bring you to the NFL, right?
I'm trying to give you the opportunity
to go out and get this bag.
And with all the, you know,
opportunities you had in college, right?
And when you was in Fire Cap, let's take that to the league, man.
We need, hey, the league is short right now.
We back then when this league was in 1960s, we need folks to be able to come out here
and make it happen.
But you check this out.
Go ahead, Ocho. Go ahead.
Go ahead.
I'm going to say, listen, early in life, obviously, you've made some mistakes.
Listen, we've all made them.
You know, you've had obstacles you had to overcome and you were able to do that.
And many of us don't get a second chance.
You were able to get a second chance.
And I'm just curious, what's been the biggest hurdle you faced in making the
forestry and fire recruitment program a success and actually getting people to
want to actually do it despite what the pay might be?
So it's a lot of things.
So I think the biggest,
one of the biggest hurdles is like,
can you actually do it?
Right?
Cause a lot of folks knew like it was some rumors around
like, yeah, you can, you can't.
But if you really think about it,
public service and prison kind of don't mix, right?
Like if you think about cop, you think about, you know, a prisoner, it doesn't mix.
You think about a firefighter,
you think about a prisoner, it don't mix, right?
So, I was like, you know, me and my co-founder,
Brandon Smith, you know, we was laying in the bunk one day,
or just like, you know, just chopping it up.
And it was like, man, like, I really enjoy this, man.
I really want to do this. And he was like, man, you know what?
We should figure it out, like. But I'm like, you know what? We should, we should figure it out.
Like, but I'm like, you know what?
Once we actually know the process of becoming,
coming from fire camp to, you know,
being a professional firefighter, you know,
I want to be the modern day Harriet Tubman.
You feel me?
I want to bring our folks, you know what I'm saying?
To the fire, to get their back, right?
So it was like, okay.
And then we obviously, you know, it was a lot of,
it's a lot of stuff.
It's stigma, you know, obviously it's, you know,
understanding the process of how to get there right,
after the application, you know, build a resume.
And then, and at the time that I was around,
it was like, band of box wasn't there.
So like, you know, you got to explain your crime
and what you did.
So I was like, you know, when I first started,
I worked with the US Forest Service
and I put my own application.
I'm like, look, this is the crime that I committed, right?
But then this is what I'm doing to be able to, you know,
take-
You were trying to atone for my mistake.
Right, so, hey, look, I went to this wild land academy,
got my certifications in college, right?
And I'm trying to be able to really push it
to the next level and be able to get a position
with y'all, like I'm showing you not only just the things
that have happened in the past,
but also the things that I'm working on
to be able to be a great citizen
and being able to be an asset to the organization,
which is the Forest Service.
So from there, I know, I got, you know,
then I got an interview and man, it's just like,
they was asking me like, you know,
so what makes you the best person for this job?
And I was like, look, I got experience, right?
When I was in fire cap and, you know,
I did 20 months, you know, fighting fires,
doing fire prevention work.
I was the first saw I was out there
You know doing my thing and then not only that when I came home
I got my credentials as far as getting my certifications
I need and then now I'm actually in college pursuing my eighth degree in fire technology. So I'm like
And experience you can't beat right so I am the best you know
I have the the good position to be able to be the best person for the job.
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Chief, I want to ask you this,
because there is a stigmatism that comes along
with someone that's been incarcerated and they gets out.
A lot of time, employment do not want to offer them that
because of their prior history. What are you doing and how can we as a society realize
that some of these men, women have something to offer society in a positive because there
is that stigma that they don't want to give you a job. And so that's why I believe the
recidivism rate is so high. Well, if I can't get a job, you're not going to give me gainful employment.
I got to go touch somebody to get it because I got to survive.
I'm just going to be honest with you.
I got to survive, G.
That's my guy, man.
And that's the real thing, man.
And that's where I want to tell y'all today is I can you know, I can, I can speak from experience.
I was, you know, I was a little firecracker when I was younger. So I think even the respect that I gained from these men and women that's out there
battling these fires and stuff, and that's in these fire camps, I can really attest to
what they're going through.
And, and it's really an important factor of me being able to like talk to like, so for example, let me tell you some real stuff.
So Cal Fire, right? That's like the state's fire department.
They actually one of our biggest funders. And they actually support what we're doing.
And they put their money where their mouth is, right? Governor Gavin Newsom, he passed a bill that was effective January 1st, 2021.
It's called AB 2147, which allows folks that's been incarcerated and fire camps
get their record of sponge once they come home.
So a big shout out to the governor.
Right. Big shout out to Cal Fire.
And but one thing that we do need to like,
I really want to talk to you about too, is like CDCR, you know, I've been wanting to chop it up
with them for a while.
And these are the folks that, you know,
how's the folks that's being incarcerated, right?
And I'm really looking for a partnership for us
to really, you know, help out those thousand,
you know, folks that's out there battling these fires
right now and to be able to, you know,
put their money where their mouth is.
Let's, like, we really need people, like, this has been going on for a long time.
We started our organization in 2018. It's really been a struggle.
I was actually just talking to my wife, man, and, like, it's been a journey for me, Ocho and Shannon, and my team, too.
And, like, to be honest with you,
my co-founder Brandon Smith,
his grandparents house burned down just in Elf Greenland.
Sorry to hear that.
My director of finance,
her house burned down in the Palisades, right?
It's been an effective,
like not only just what we've been doing
and been trying to like, we've been, you know,
we've been struggling, we're a non-profit organization.
You know, we trying to do something that's right, but like, it's been a lot of like, you know, we've been struggling. We're a non-profit organization. You know, we trying to do something that's right.
But like, it's been a lot of like, you know,
it's been a lot of stigmas, a lot of like, you know,
pressure with this.
And now that this hasn't happened, like, you know,
we've been around, we want,
we want to be able to provide folks opportunity and stuff.
So yeah, let me, let me just stop there.
Let me stop there.
Cause I can go on and tell you.
What's the best way people can support your organization,
your efforts to do what you can take,
to help you continue to do what you're doing?
Honestly, if they can donate,
I don't care if it's five, 10, 50 dollars, right?
To the foursheafirerp.org or even just awareness.
Like I'm a TED fellow, 2024 TED fellow.
Shout out to all the TED folks.
I have a TED talk and just spurring awareness
of the organization and what we're doing.
And I think that's really what needs to happen.
Like folks need to know what we actually do.
And I think, you know, to all the, you know, athletes,
to all the folks that been in,
that lived in the urban community,
I feel like we would definitely would love your support and knowing that we actually
You know getting folks that say that there are you know zeros when they go to prison and you the homies right like all
The folks that we know that grew up right. I'm actually providing them an opportunity to get a you know, a six-figure job, right?
And if you think about that in LA like that's huge
That's like changing money for folks, right?
And even being able to get the record response,
like have a whole zero to hero kind of like mentality.
And shout out to, I'm gonna be honest with you,
shout out to like ARC, shout out to J-Cod,
shout out to like all these folks that's really trying
to make things happen on a higher level. Even Kim Kardashian, shout out to like all these folks that's really trying to make things happen
on a higher level, even Kim Kardashian.
She's been saying some things about us
and trying to uplift that voice, right?
But I need support from folks that's in the LA community,
that been in urban community,
that understand what we're going through
and think about Uncle Jojo, Uncle Nook Nook
and all those folks that, they're the ones who be going to fire camp, right?
And they can be able to get that and when they see that, you know
All it takes is a little bit of effort
It takes a mindset and and that's another thing too Shannon and Ocho I want to say like it's it's
you know, it's mind control over Debo right when you can be able to
Inspire and show like look you already been doing it, bro.
You might as well just go ahead and dive all the way.
Make it an honest hustle.
It's an honest hustle.
Right.
Exactly.
And you think about it.
It ain't too many opportunities that you can come home from prison and make six figures.
Think about it.
And what we're doing, we're like, think of, we only training a hundred people for, you know, year round.
Like, and then one thing that I wanted to tell y'all,
talk to y'all about too, is that I've been trying to like
uplift the Buffalo anchors.
So I don't know if you educated on this,
like about the Buffalo soldiers.
And so, so they, you know, obviously the African-American
men, you know, wanted to serve in the armed forces
and they actually went out to, it was a fire in 1910, and they saved a town in Avery, Idaho.
And they did a back burn.
And that's something that we kind of really do like, you know, even today.
And that kind of has been kind of like a little tradition, right?
And being able to do prescribed kind of burns and like trying to save things and stuff.
And I actually launched a crew in 2022.
It's called the Buffalo, Buffalo hand crew.
And what I want to do is, um, you know, build a crew where I can be able to do
fire prevention and fire suppression work throughout the, throughout the state.
Cause that's one of the things too.
We've got those hosts, those, those houses that burn in policies and I, and I
know like it is like a wind event that like is just you know
A natural disaster and you can't really like stop that but it is some things that we can do as far as going out here
Doing some fire prevention work cutting brush right because the more brush that's cut the less
Embers and all that stuff is out there
If a fire burn is a burn is the same thing as a break, because I remember when I was
growing up, they would use to take the break, they would burn certain areas so that if there
was a fire, it could only go to the, so once it's burned, there is nothing it could jump
over and keep going on.
So I'm very familiar, I'm very familiar.
I just wanted to know if a burn is the same thing as a break.
Yeah, pretty much. I'm very familiar. I just wanted to know if the burn, the same thing as a break.
Yeah, pretty much. And that's where I think if we do a lot of more,
you know, fire prevention work, it's been efforts, right?
It is a process.
It's a complicated situation.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
But I want as an organization, a nonprofit organization,
to be able to do this work year round
and do it more frequently.
And I can hire folks internally,
like they can go through my program.
And Ocho, I gotta ask you a question, Ocho,
because I did tell you how we do it, right?
So we recruit, we train,
and then we help them get a job with the, you know,
give them a resume,
go through the application process,
because we know.
And then that's when we mentor them
throughout their career and sense.
And, you know, we help them with the social services,
we help them with the expungement.
And I gotta give it a lot of shout out, man, to a lot of my people that, you know, we help them with the social services, we help them with the expungement. And I gotta give it a lot of shout out, man,
to a lot of my people that, you know,
have been with me since the beginning,
that believed in me.
And, you know, we have a location in San Bernardino,
LA County, we have a location in Oakland,
and we try to just continue to do our work.
And I think what we're doing is transcending
and it's really transformed folks' lives. And I think what we're doing is transcending and it's really transformed
folks lives. And I just appreciate the platform and opportunity for you to have me on here.
And I just wanted to do the good work. I didn't do this for the riches and fame and the glory.
I did it because I feel like I knew that this was something that I needed to do and is going
to be able to help people's kids' kids, right?
Like it's a generational thing.
Think about it when you have a person that can make
that amount of money to be able to put their kids
in private school or put them in a better school system
and then they become something, right?
And then like generational-
Or just to be able to provide.
Right.
That part and the money, look and it's in the money look
it's is hey outro hey i hear you about saving that bread baby like hey if you don't got no bread
you can't save nothing big dog you know what i mean right we we got to it hey i i mean i might need to
like you need to start like a little um financial class or something like i might need to you might
have to give me a little sidebar of like how to do it. So I got you. I got you. I got you. You know what we did tonight Chief Royal, Ramy,
all the money that we're going to collect from the super chat, we're going to donate that to the
organization. But I believe so positive and so strongly what you're doing. I'm going to
personally donate $25,000 out of my own pocket because I really appreciate what you're doing. I love the fact that you're
trying to help the community, try to give back and try to keep guys from going back
into the system and to have gainful employment so they can provide not only for themselves
but for their families. So I really appreciate it. I appreciate you taking time out of your
schedule and coming on here and sharing a little insight of what this program is all about
because we see, we've heard so much about these young men
that are out here fighting these forest fires
for really risking their lives for pennies on the dollar.
And so I appreciate that.
And I'm sure everybody here that's watching this
appreciate your service and what you're doing.
I know Ocho and I, we greatly appreciate it.
So all the money that we gather from the Super Chat tonight, we're gonna donate that to your fund, but you're doing. I know Ocho and I, we greatly appreciate it. So all the money that we gather from the Super Chat tonight,
we're gonna donate that to your fund,
but you're gonna get a personal donation from Shannon Sharp
in the tune of $25,000,
because I believe in you, I believe in what you're doing,
and I want to say thank you for what you're doing.
Yes sir.
Thank you, man.
Salute, for real.
Salute.
Not very many times do we get a second chance at anything. Not very many times. And know, do we get a second chance at anything.
Not very many times.
And what you're doing, man, is commendable.
And you know, from the bottom of my heart, man, I really do salute you.
Yeah, I appreciate you, Shannon, man, for that.
The first thing that came to my mind, it was like, that Jerry Maguire, man, don't make me
cry.
Don't make me cry, baby. Nah, bro. Just keep doing what you're doing.
Keep God first.
Keep doing what you're doing, bro.
And I'm proud of you.
I'm happy for you.
And this is a great program.
And hopefully, there are a lot of young men that want to take advantage of this situation
to do something positive.
Yes, they made a mistake, but let's not make that be the end.
Let that be the start of a new beginning.
So congratulations on your program.
Like I said, thank you for joining us tonight.
We're going to be having a great time.
We're going to be having a great time.
We're going to be having a great time.
We're going to be having a great time.
We're going to be having a great time.
We're going to be having a great time.
We're going to be having a great time.
We're going to be having a great time.
We're going to be having a great time. We're going to be having a great time. We're going to be having a great time. We're going to be having a great time let's not make that be the end. Let that be the start of a new beginning
So congratulations on your program. Like I said, thank you for joining us tonight and we'll check back in with you down the road
All right. Thank you. I appreciate both of y'all Shannon. So have a good one. You too, bro
Man that's a chief royal rate
Ramsey I call him Ramey.
No, is it Ramsey or Ramey?
Ramey?
Okay, Ramey.
He's the co-founding chief executive officer
of the Forestry and Fire Recruitment Program.
And it's doing a lot of good things
because what it does is give inmates an opportunity
to learn a craft because it's hard.
I mean, it's hard for them to get a job
because somebody, they put on that thing
and you have been convicted of a crime, you say, yeah, blah, and blah blah blah. They're like, oh no, we can't hire you
So now I ain't got no game for employment. I'm out. But what can I do to survive? How do I get a place to stay?
And so a lot of things sometimes family don't want you around because you know, you've done something and it's so it's hard
And so, you know, like I said, I mean, when you don't have employment, and
you need to survive, the dog won't starve himself. Humans are no different. They're
not going to starve themselves. So if they can't get gainful employment, they're going
to find a way to survive. And so what Chief Royal Ramey is doing is giving guys an opportunity.
I greatly appreciate that. And I don't mind, like I said, I've been very fortunate. I've
been blessed. God has blessed me beyond blessed.
Um, and so someone's doing something positive about Joe.
I always want to be able to lend a hand.
Yes, sir.
So thank you, chief, uh, uh, for coming on and joining us.
Oh Joe, an accounting error didn't get Jimmy Butler paid report.
Miami had an accounting error that left Jimmy Butler without pay for 10 days. Jimmley reportedly took private flight separate from the team in order
to visit his sick father. So in other words, he wasn't just taking it because
he didn't want to fly on the plane because Pat Riley might have been on the
plane, he might have had beef. He was like, look, I'm gonna meet you where you're
going, but I really need to see my dad. My dad is not gonna be here much
longer, and I want to spend as much time as I possibly can to see my dad. My dad is not gonna be here much longer.
And I wanna spend as much time as I possibly can to be with him.
I'm gonna join you wherever we're going.
But just give me that opportunity to be with my father.
So I mean, that should have been addressed and that should have been told to them ahead
of time, huh?
Or the reports were gonna come out that he was flying solo.
They think he's flying because he don't wanna be with the team. But obviously he had a reason
why he wasn't with the team. And now that it comes out, he lets it be known. That should have been
already talked about internally. So there was no issue. But because there was some strife and,
you know, there was some separation between Pat Riley and the powers that be that he can pass
that message on, you know, I guess I'm assuming just Jimmy did it his way.
And now once the, once the, once the issues came out about him flying solo, now
he lets people know that, you know, pops is sick and that might've been something
that he didn't want to know.
He didn't even want to get out.
Correct.
I think the thing is, uh, I mean, I don't know how you, like I said, I'm
figured if you take in private flights and something like that is his dad is probably
Really really ill and you try to spend as much time as is a with your father
It's or the loved one as you possibly can and you know
I don't really care as long as he as long as he's gonna be there for the game and even if he doesn't
Because there's some things that are more important than basketball. I know I know people don't
Sports let me take that back. Not just basketball. There are certain things that are more important than basketball. I know, I know people don't sports. Let me take that back. Not just basketball.
There are certain things that are more important.
Um, tending to a loved one.
I would rank that first.
I'm always going to make sure family is okay.
Now, once they're okay, I can tend, I can, my mind can be free and I can go
to get done what I need to get done.
Right.
Um, but I don't really have a problem with Jimmy did taking a private
flight because he could have just like hey the hell with it
I'm gonna be here with my dad as long as my dad need me to F the F them sports because oh, yeah game
Good day y'all gonna play 50 60 more of these I don't get another day
Once he gone he gone and so I totally get what Jimmy did
Taking a private jet if this is why he took the private jet, because they said the private jet,
because he wanted to stay back with his father and spend as much time as he could.
But he always ended up making the game.
So kudos to you, Jimmy.
Yeah.
Oh, Joe Neymar, go ahead.
What you gonna say?
Let me use the bathroom real quick.
Hey, Neymar, that's my dog, man.
Yeah. Hey, listen, go ahead. What'd you gonna say? Let me use the bathroom real quick. Hey Neymar, that's my dog, man. Yeah.
Hey, I say, hey listen, make sure, hey, Unc,
whatever you get ready to say, I said it first.
So when it actually happens,
just know I tweeted it two weeks ago
cause a little birdie told me, hold on, hold on.
Neymar is in talks with three MLS teams over a possible move.
He's with one of those teams in Saudi Arabia.
Anyone on one of those teams like Cristiano Ronaldo?
I mean.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's making big money over there.
But Neymar has been talking to three MLS teams over a possible move.
Ocho, tell the people at home what the move would mean for professional soccer in the US.
Now, we know Messi is already in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league.
I think Suarez is in the league. I think Suarez is in the league. I think Suarez is in the league. I think Suarez is in the league move would mean for professional soccer in the US.
Now, we know Messi is already in the league.
I think Suarez joined him also, right?
Yeah, Suarez.
Yep, Suarez is there.
Jordi Alba is there as well.
And I think obviously there was a time where there was a time,
I mean, phenomenal trio at Barcelona when it was, it was obviously Jordi Alba was there, but the trio,
Messi, Suarez and Neymar, it was, it was a beautiful thing.
It was a beautiful thing.
Now in comparison to something you would understand is when Chris Boss,
Dwayne Wade and LeBron were playing together.
Now I'm not saying they're the same thing.
I'm just giving you're the same thing.
I'm just giving you better context on how that trio was.
Uh, when they play together, we talk about, we talk about art.
There's a reason they call soccer the beautiful game.
And that's exactly what they displayed when they played together.
So them reuniting, even though they're, they're past their primes, it still
would be a joy, it would be a joy to watch them.
If Neymar is to come to the States, if it was to happen, it would be Miami.
Even if he's in talks to other teams, you know, in MLS,
if it's not LA, if it's not the Galaxy or it's not LAFC,
I don't see him going anywhere else.
Yeah.
I don't see him going anywhere else.
It's either LAFC, the Galaxy, or down here in else. It's either LAFC the galaxy or
Down here the end of Miami. He's not playing for any other team. There's no disrespect to them. They just wouldn't have
The type of money he's looking for even though they paying him. I don't even I don't know what Ash could tell you Well, you know a name are made to go to go to Saudi Arabia
Depends a lot day. You what? I think Renato got like five about nothing about nothing around Yeah, Ronaldo got like five million for three years man. No two
We got two years. Okay. Yeah
Crazy
He got he makes a hundred and seven million a year how much we know don't make
Neymar makes a Ronaldo makes, Ronaldo makes 180 a year.
Yeah.
And, uh, cause they offered, they offered messy something like that, but messy
took the MLS deal because he gets a share of Apple, he gets a share of the, uh, the Jersey sales.
Yeah.
And the funny thing about it now, I don't know if the reports were true.
It might not be, if they say they offered Messi a billion, they offered Messi a billion
dollars to come, but Messi don't need no money.
He don't need no money.
I don't know if it was true or not, you know, a billion dollars for two years.
They got it.
Knowing them, they got it.
Oh, I know they got the money.
And they would have paid it. But I'm sure at this point in his career, I don't want they got it. Oh, I know they got the money. And they would have paid it.
But I'm sure at this point in his career,
I don't want to end it out there in Saudi Arabia.
I'm gonna end it out here in Miami.
I'm gonna end it in Saudi Arabia.
I ended it wherever they got a billion at,
that's where I'm gonna end it.
You know, that's a conversation you have.
And look at all the perks though, Ocho.
I mean, they got like private jazz
and they got like a $50 million penthouse and they got all armed security, all the perks though, Ocho. I mean, they got like private jazz and they got them like a $50 million penthouse and
they got all armed security, all the, man, please.
Neymar got it made.
But again, you got to think where you're going now.
You got kids, you got a family, you have a wife and his wife is like, listen, I didn't
like it when I was in Paris and you definitely not gonna drag me from Paris and take me to
Saudi Arabia.
That ain't happening.
Okay, so where you want to stay?
Cause I'm going to be over here in Saudi Arabia while you where you are.
I'm gonna get this bill. I'm gonna get this money.
Because Ronaldo took the money and ran, which I don't blame him. That's a lot of money. $180
million a year, what y'all? Yeah, man. That's a lot of bread, man. You know what's funny?
You gotta think about how much he's already made before he even got to Saudi Arabia.
Yes.
I think he's like $1.6 billion.
I think that's what he's made.
That's what he's made in totality.
Yeah.
With revenue, with soccer and endorsement and things like that.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Yeah.
Oh Joe, a mother went viral for saying her sons will lose inheritance if they have
a child out of wedlock.
I like that. That's a good way to force marriage. That's a good way to force marriage on your
kids. You know, using money as an incentive saying if you do anything out of wedlock,
okay, you ain't getting the money.
You ain't getting the money. You know, now if they're driven, if they're driven by that, you know, if money is the
motive, then you already know what you're going to get.
If they don't care about that, you know, and sometimes due to unfortunate
circumstances, shit happens.
Yeah.
Shit happens, huh?
The only way to prevent that, they can't put raw meat on somebody now. It is.
It is.
Man. It is.
How about money? Hey, Ojo. How about my inheritance?
Right, and you know what? It was better. It was better. If you if we got a report, right?
It would have been better if they told us what the number was.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Hey, mama, how many of my inheritance?
50,000? No, mama, I ain't gonna be able to hold off on that.
He he he he he he.
I think the biggest thing in a situation like that, I don't think they want to disappoint their mom because they know how important that is for her.
Right.
You know, she was probably, when she gave birth to them, they were probably the dad was probably
in there.
And so she wants to continue that she wants to continue that succession of a we do things
the right way.
We're married, you know, blah, blah, blah.
We don't have baby over here, baby over there, baby out there.
And so I don't have a problem with that.
Hey, look, I don't I don't tell anybody how to really govern their families, Ocho.
Right.
Yes, sir.
How they had to divvy up their money if that's what she wants the stipulation.
Because a lot of people have stipulations in not only inheritance, but they have stipulations
in prenups.
Yes, sir.
You know, you got to have sex X amount of time.
You can't gain a certain amount of weight.
You have to look a certain way.
You have to look a certain way.
So it is what it is is they put that in prenups
hell yeah absolutely that's a little that's a little extensive cuz when you
get we have to one of us get fat I mean listen I mean we when you isn't once you
cross that once you cross once you jump that broom you're supposed to accept
your partner forever they are sometimes no sometimes I accept you how, once you jump that broom, you're supposed to accept your partner for however they are. Sometimes, sometimes he's bald.
No, no, I accepted you how I met you.
You, that one you look like to him.
You ain't fit to be no, you ain't fit to be no 155 and then in two months be 275.
Oh no, that ain't gonna happen.
What happened?
I thought you were supposed to love your person, love your partner.
I did.
I love the person that I married.
I don't know who this is.
Somebody, somebody kicked out my wife.
Right.
That's funny.
No, I mean, but no, I mean, people do put that. I actually, people do put things like that in the pre-nup or, you know, who gets
the dog or who gets what and all kinds of things, you know, obviously pets are,
you know, a lot of people have pets.
You know, Hey, I get the dog or I get visitation or you I get the dog you get the cat or whatever the case may be
But the mom says look I want my boys to help be married when they have when they follow the kids, right?
Her money she gets to decide how to div it up and where it goes and it's this that's crazy
No problem. No problem from the night camp crew on that one.
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Ocho, a French woman was swindled out of $800,000 by scammers, posing as Brad Pitt, who made her believe she was dating him and that they needed help paying for medical care
After reportedly telling the scammer that she had recently divorced her husband and sent almost all of her divorce settlement about 800,000
It was 798 thousand American dollars after a fake Brad Pitt had he had developed kidney cancer and needed a loan because his bank accounts
Were locked out because of ongoing divorce
Proceeding with Angelina Jolie the woman sent an AI generated image of Brad Pitt's face over a man in a hospital in hospital bed
Yeah, I mean is she that dumb or is that stupid?
I'll get 2025
Brad Pitt would have FaceTime you
25. Brad Pitt would have FaceTime you. It's 20, 25. He was too sick. He was too sick. If you get in the scam in 2025 out of 800,000, you deserve to be scammed. It's 20, 25. And
how the hell you truly believe Brad Pitt need 800,000? Because all the reports said that
they had, they had actually frozen some of his bank accounts because the ongoing pending divorce
Because when you're in a pin in the board they like sometimes they will freeze your assets if they think
You're trying to hide or you're trying to move the money. They'll absolutely freeze them
Even if they froze some of his assets Brad Pitt has access to 800,000
Yeah, even if so we talk about one rated we talk about one of the greatest actors of all time.
It's a no just no it's a no Joe Blow.
Come on man.
I mean you can't be that guy there.
Come on man.
Oh Joe when you when you look at oh Joe you look at oh Joe she had just gotten divorced.
She thought Brad Pitt was interested in her.
Oh you know love is blinding oh Joe it's like a cataract. I love that deaf that definitely was on her part
How she loving somebody if she just just left somebody you just got divorced
Exactly, and you think you're only and you think Brad Pitt was next in line?
Oh Joe, you know how that's how you that's how you play on someone's emotion someone someone that just lost a loved one
What do you do you play on that? That's how you get close to somebody. Oh you grieving
I want to be there for you. I'm gonna cry on your shoulder and next thing, you know, you don't slip meat in them
You see how that work? Yeah, they work on Joe. You see how that work? Hey
It happens every time. Yeah.
And I don't think you're gonna get this money back.
Yeah, definitely not. Definitely not. There's probably no way to track that.
No, probably not. Listen, if you have a scammer that can get $800,000 out of you.
Listen, if you have a scammer that can get $800,000 out of you, that ain't just no ordinary scammer.
Oh, they good, Ocho.
Ocho.
That's a professional.
The fact that you-
Ocho, look at Bernie Madoff.
Bernie Madoff got three billion.
Listen, you know how to do that ponder scheme?
No, I don't want to know either.
I mean, we can have three billion, though. I mean we can have three billion though. No,
you can have time. He in jail. He not out yet? Give me that look. He ain't never getting
long as they, hey, as long as they make make tea, he gonna be in jail. And Chinese been making tea
for 5,000 years. So he ain't going anywhere anytime soon. Yeah. Yeah, he got 150 years. So
time soon. Yeah. Hell, you got 150 years old. They got 150 years.
Yeah.
Well, that privilege ain't work on his end. No.
Man, you still that kind of money and the people that he stole it from.
So that what they need to start having that sentence is when you hand out
since they get somebody 100 years, we'll stop this from daughter crime.
Cause we gonna make if you don't serve all that time, we're gonna have to get
some family member to help support the rest of that
So you got a hundred years since you only do 50. All right, who won who got how y'all gonna break this up?
Hey, I
Got to you
And that's down but it's uh
That's great. But it's,
it's bad.
I'll be honest.
But that's,
Ocho, it's always,
think about it, Ocho.
They look at the scam.
I mean, the UPS,
oh, you got a package,
but you just need to send four dollars.
So we can get-
I own so.
They got links.
They got links.
They sent it.
Yes!
I ain't got nothing.
I just hit delete.
I ain't clicking on,
I don't click on nothing.
I don't even know about what you, I don't even know my credit card information,
so I can't give it to you.
And so I just hit just swipe, and it's gone.
Delete.
Yeah.
Crazy.
All right, well, I think about them days when I,
I mean, you probably don't know about it,
but I'm 10% of Nigerian descent so like I used to
be a Yahoo boy I don't know if you know anything about us but but oh man just
whoo I'm that's another story for another day man.
Walgreens CEO says anti shoplifting strategy backfired the top executive at
Walgreens lamented the loss of sales from putting items at
like toothpaste behind Lock and Key crackdown on rampant shoplifting has plagued the pharmacy
chains around the country. When you lock things up, you don't sell as many of them. You don't.
But a lot, some of these are like in college areas because the, uh, the target over there by
UCLA campus, I mean, used to be able to go in there and get a toothpaste and, and
deodorant and shower gel and just grab it. Right now you got like, ah, dang bro. And
they stand right there. Bro, can you just leave it open? I'm sorry, we can't. Okay,
well, just why you here does let me get that that that and that. But I get what he's saying because people are stealing it.
Yeah.
So I mean, he, I mean, they got to take precautions as far as, as far as, um, like
trying to, trying to keep you from stealing it.
Right.
But then, but then it's, it's messing up is messing up sales because yes.
Guess what?
But guess what?
We're not selling as many of it it but they were stealing more of it so I'm lose either way you look at it yes
how do you how do you counter that as a CEO what do you do at that point I don't
know you I just have to leave it locked up because I guarantee you they're
stealing it we're leaving it out like that right probably and that's why I
think we talk about man the prices the price keep going up because
they keep stealing right you keep they keep stealing it's driving the price it's
up so something has to offset that it had messing up everything it messes it
messes up for everybody yeah I just I just I
people don't seem to understand how, how, how the economy works.
Somebody got to pay for that.
Oh yeah.
For loss.
I got somebody has to pay for that.
Oh, Joe, I don't think people understand.
Guess who gonna have to pay for it.
The consumer that actually buys it.
All us.
The thief, the thief ain't paying for it.
We have to pay for it.
And then, you know, they've gotten really last unless it's a what is it like 850 or a thousand dollars?
And it's not a credit just write you a little citation or something like that like nine hundred dollars. It's so
Yeah, it's bad I mean at Target is to say his target is the same thing a lot of these like it used to be like
Where did I go?
Hell, I went to Sally's I think the other day and they got stuff,
the grease and stuff like that. Like what?
Damn Sally beauty supply.
Yeah.
I let bad.
I'm trying to get me some, I'm trying to get some of that 57, 10 Beijing.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why you, it was locked up.
Okay.
I was like, here's still great.
It was locked up. Okay. So here still great.
But see, that's why I like to go get stuff in bulk. So I'll buy. Keep going back. Yeah. I'll buy, I'll buy 20 Listerines. I'll buy 42 of the toothpaste.
15 deodorants. Yeah.
Cause I like going back. Cause I know know y'all have it locked up.
So it is now surely just order it.
So I only really have to go. Right. Yeah.
But I walk a CEO Walgreens, I totally understand.
It is a hassle to go in there when you used to go in.
You had a hurry, Ocho.
And there's never anybody there.
They're normally, you know, cashiers or something.
They're, you know, pharmacists or whatever the case may be.
You got to go ask them, excuse me, can you go open such a touch?
And, you know, they got a thousand keys on there.
Hey, see, I kind of I agree with you in a little bit, but I don't think
you really understand the joy and the pleasure and the excitement it gives me.
Now, to give you better context,
remember when you was a little kid
and you was born in the store?
Yeah.
Remember Zairs?
Did you, you remember, you ever heard of Zairs?
Yeah, did you hear of the store?
Yeah, Zairs, no, no, no, no, that's, no.
Zairs was like a, like back in the day,
like in the early 80s, in the early 80s, late 90s,
Zairs was like a JCPenney almost,
like a little bit, or Publix or something like that.
Or Ralph, I think, if I'm not mistaken, like a Target.
That feeling you had when you know you're going
and going into Target, let's say you're a little kid,
and your mama say, before we get in here,
I'm telling you right now, don't you ask me for nothing.
But that excitement of knowing you was going in there and there's a
possibility you might be able to get some.
Oh, Z Y Z Y R E.
Yeah.
Z A Y R E S.
Yeah.
Even as, even as a grown adult at my age, there's a certain level of excitement.
I swear, I swear for God.
And I'll be able to go into the store and grab, get stuff.
Yeah.
But to go to Target, just, I don't think you don't understand what that Target run
does.
I didn't know if Target existed until I got to Colorado.
For real?
No, but we had Belks, we had JCPenney, we had stuff like that.
We have no Target in no Glenville, we have no Target in Savannah.
Yes.
Not when I went to school.
So you don't understand the joy of actually
take going on a Target run and walking up and down the aisles,
going for one item and coming out with 10.
Like, is you did it.
Oh, yeah.
That's why I like to go shopping now,
because I ain't never going to buy one thing.
Right.
I go get orange juice.
I'm coming out with muffins.
I'm coming out with pretzels.
Yes.
Yes.
Popcorn.
Yes.
I'm coming out with a whole bunch of.
Mm-hmm.
Listen, I'm going to go to-
Yeah, I know what it's like to go,
even when you go into these little convenience stores,
Ocho, your stuff was all out there
and you had all those cookies on the thing
and it was penny cookies and penny candy
and all that stuff, you missed that.
Right.
Ain't no more, I don't think,
is there anything that's in a store
that you can buy for a penny?
I can't remember last time I've been inside of uh, uh, you know, a convenience store. No
Nothing at all. They they lock it and then you like you want to sort of they think can I get a sprite?
The guy go get the sprite and put it in the thing. You just can't walk in the store after a certain time, right?
Things have changed and they've had to change.
I mean, you know, it's gotten dangerous out of here.
You know, people, a lot of people don't care, don't care anything about their life
and they damn sure don't care anything about yours.
So they'll take whatever they can.
And it's not good enough to just take it and just move on.
They end up harming somebody.
But I definitely understand what the CEO is talking about.
But we all get impacted by that, Ocho, because it drives the prices up for everybody.
Oh yeah.
They going to get that money back some way.
Uh, Q and A, Ocho, Nightcapers, you've donated $550 to a board.
Oh, okay.
I was going to say that first, but go ahead.
We got the animation. Come on, Ocho. We got
Nightcap. I mean, Q&A.
Nightcapper, you donated $550 for a very worthy cause. Thank you so much. Also, I'm dear to
personal domination because I think this is a very, very worthy cause and I really appreciate
the young brother trying to get out there and try to help people
and give back because I hate to see people
not get an opportunity to be successful
because nobody will hire them because of a past mistake.
So hopefully this will help.
And I really appreciate what this young man is doing.
But thank you guys, Nightcaper,
for donating to a very worthy cause.
Shout out to Dr. Frankie l Bellamy Bellamy Olivia Hawkins
and Taylor Bell they don't they big dope they don't big donators doc you've
always been great you've been here for the duck I'll begin to what a dog you
got a job
Bama Don Don oh for salute 44 KG to the guys coming home trying to make it
Make it in as hard as profession. What is salute 44 G?
To the guys coming home trying to make it
In a hard-ass profession. Oh, yeah, but look I get it, you know, look anytime that there your life is at risk
The obviously that's very very very very tough Yeah, but look, I get it. You know, look, anytime that there your life is at risk
Obviously, that's very very very very tough
but It gives you an opportunity to get do an artist profession and you know
A lot of times there are some there's some programs that they out there that they hire
Guys that's previously been incarcerated as long as the crime isn't
You know the one of the most heinous natures. And he will explain it to us.
There are certain crimes in order to get into the program you can't be convicted of.
But I just like the fact that he's trying to help because it's tough when somebody won't give you
a job and you need to eat, you need to place over your head. Maybe you have kids or things of that
nature. It's really hard. And so I just appreciate what the brother's doing. Yes sir. Keity Fresh your story it was inspiring keep doing what you're doing what
you're doing uh wish I had more to help your cause any little bit help kid but we appreciate that man
SLF says shout out to all the firefighters for the hard work you do they're doing
sending love from Canola yep we greatly greatly appreciate it so much damage has been done
to the men and women that's out there fighting, putting their lives on the line to try to get these fires under control. Here at everybody at night camp and all our
listeners, we're sending our thoughts and prayers with you. Hopefully everybody makes
it home safely.
Anise Farmde, much love to all the first responders and all behind the scene people. I see you.
Yes we do and we respect you.
Then Quarriors Hill said, my brother's in West Hill grad
and I want to show his appreciation for everything
that community did for my bro.
His time there, but nightcap fam stand up.
Yes, we support all good here.
Laney Ray just wanted to donate to a worthy cause.
Cheers to the chief of firefighters
and all my fellow nonprofit workers out there as well for the fighting a good fight. Fighting the good fight. Yes, lady. Thank
you. Appreciate that. Bradenson. My dad was a correctional officer at the fire camp in California.
He loved those inmates and working alongside them. Some of the most hardworking and kind people.
alongside them, some of the most hardworking and kind people.
Thank you.
Appreciate your dad.
Uh, yes.
Kevin know what junior who's the worst quarterback in NFL history or wide receiver in NFL history.
The worst quarterback.
Yes.
Nathan Peterman.
Uh, he, he, he got a strong case.
Uh, Jermarcus, uh, Ryan Leaf.
The best, I think the thing is, Ocho is because those guys
were such high draft picks.
I mean, you know, a guy that's a poor draft pick
or something like that.
But you're the first pick in the draft.
You're the number two pick in the draft.
Right, it's a lot of pressure to live up
to those expectations, huh?
It really, it really is.
of pressure to live up to those expectations. It really, it really is.
Uh, uh, uh, why receiver?
Blackman Jacksonville.
But I mean, he got in trouble though.
Well, he didn't feel expectation.
Charles Rogers got it.
Got to have some injuries, broke his collarbone like the second held out, broke his collarbone, ended up broken it again.
I mean, you probably have to go back.
I mean, considering NFL is over a hundred years old, I'm sure there was some,
but they didn't get the coverage like we have now.
Keem, I'm doing what you want.
Uh, what's good, Nightcap?
I'm a big Atlanta Falcons fan and I'm liking the connection between Michael
Penney's Jr Junior and Drake London. Oh no, Joe. Do you think they can be a top-tier quarterback wide receiver combo next season? Yes
Yeah, I mean the sample size that we got from from Pinnix in in London is so small
But it only it only has room to grow, you know, obviously
Right didn't get in the office, getting the mini camp together,
getting the training camp together, you know, and in a full season, it has the potential to be very,
very, very good.
Because when you think about it, Ocho, Kirk Cousins took the majority of the reps with
Drake London.
So they're only going to get better once they get in the mini camps and they get the OTAs,
they get the training camps, and he's getting the majority of rest
with London but if there was any indication of last couple of games that
seemed to be back a budding combo. Big Roo, your uncle Ocho from Cleveland and
Sam Brown's fan what do y'all think the Browns should do to get back to
continue starting with the draft would you ever coach in the NFL? Ocho why
receive a coach? No I ain't coaching NFL, AFL, college, high school,
junior league, midget, excuse me.
Blackwater.
Huh?
What's my flag?
No, I don't wanna be no coaching.
Nah.
It was all like it take to coach the celebrities and they had the basketball.
Everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody won't play in time.
Everybody, coach, I'm just getting hot, bro.
You just got three turnovers.
How you getting hot?
I don't know.
But what you guys need to do, you got to get a quarterback.
You're not winning. No team is winning in the NFL without a quarterback,
without consistent quarterback play. It is very,
very difficult for you to win in today's time.
Look at the team that's currently in the playoffs. What do they all have?
Or to what about quarterbacks?
Uh, and if I'm not mistaken, Lamar might be the lowest drafted quarterback at 32
Jerry golf was number one overall Jane Daniels number two overall
Josh Allen was number seven Patrick Mahone was I think 10
Who else we leave out?
Jalen Hurst was second round pick and then Matthew Stafford was number one overall, but you got to have a quarterback
You got to get consistent quarterback consistent Taylor hurts with second round pick and then Matthew Stafford was number one overall, but you gotta have a quarterback.
You gotta get consistent quarterback, consistent quarterback play in order to have a chance
to win currently in the NFL.
Without it, you don't have a chance.
Isaiah Lancaster, unknotcho who wins Buffalo Ravens and how did the Ravens slow down Josh
Allen?
Also, what are your thoughts on Brandon Jennings calling Tatum the softest Celtic superstar
I disagree with it
Who you got? Yes who eats about who go how they all stop Derek Henry
Did you see the first time the Ravens played the bills but one bills front line is undersized undersized tremendously
If
The Steelers whose identity is defense and I would think better suited to stop Derrick
Henry couldn't do nothing with him, the Bills definitely ain't gonna be able to do nothing
with him.
He gonna run crazy.
He gonna run wild.
Now you go out there, you stack nine in the box, you stack eight in the box, you know
what that could be do.
Then now that's a different story.
Well here's the thing though Ocho, but the best way to stop Josh Allen is to
keep his ass on the bench and the Ravens have the type of offense that can do
that when you got a Derrick Henry and you got a Lamar Jackson, you got to be
able to stop both of those guys.
That look, I understand James Cook had a phenomenal year.
Uh, so if I could have 16, 17 Russian touchdown, he was phenomenal.
So was Josh Allen, but the best running back quarterback duo in the NFL is it is
it's them two and it's not close.
That's Lamar and Derrick Henry and it's not close.
Oh Joe, let me, let me go back.
I made a reference.
I was talking about little league football.
When I said midgets, I was not talking about little people.
I was talking, that's what we used to call Pop Warner.
We used to call it midget football.
Midget football, that's what we said.
Yeah, but you know, but you know, Ocho,
you and I taught people parts words and say,
he was being disrespectful to little people.
Oh my God.
Yeah, I just like to clear things up because, you know,
people are always looking to try to cancel somebody.
So I was making a reference.
I wasn't talking about the actual individuals and I understand they want to be called little people. But I've spoken to
little people that they like the term the M term. And it's like, it's not disrespectful. But I was
talking about the group, the age when we had like, I think we're, I think I started playing out of
nine. That's what they call the league we played in. So and just like race cars, they call it midgets, but you know, some people,
some people want to take everything and blow it out of a porch and no joke.
It's so funny.
Long time ago, I had a year where I was able to stay with my mama in, uh, in LA.
Right.
Yeah.
I tried it with her one time when I was younger and my grandma brought me on back.
I played for Wilshire yellow jackets.
I played the Midgets.
That was the, there was no weight class.
It was the Midgets.
Right.
That's funny.
I just thought about that.
But that's what you know,
but you know how it is on the show.
You know, people are always looking for something
to try to, oh, he being disrespectful to little people.
That's a derogatory term.
He knows better.
He shouldn't have said this.
And then all the groups come out and they try to boycott and do all this stuff.
So I just want to clarify.
I was not talking about individuals.
I was talking about the group.
That's what they call the league that we played in.
Even the little race cars.
That's what they call the race cars is still called that on the circuit.
So I just wanted to make sure we clear that up.
OK, his second part.
What are your thoughts on Brandon Jennings calling Jason Tatum the softest Celtic superstar? I disagree with it. That's Brandon
Jennings opinion. I don't, you know, it's just hard to get upset with somebody
when they have an opinion or, you know, Brandon Jennings played in the league.
And that's his opinion of Jason Tatum. I think the thing is now you don't have,
they're not required to be what the guys
were in the seventies, eighties and nineties. And it's okay. There's a different way. Everybody
doesn't have to be, and everybody don't have to be scowling and everybody don't have to try to run
people over to be successful. All I know is he put the ball in at a very high clip.
I have a question. So he says he saw, is he basing that based off his mannerisms or his style of play?
Probably his mannerisms, his style of play.
Okay.
Oh Joe, you know we grew up, we always thought light skin guys were soft.
Hey, we going at him.
Right.
You could not be light skinned and had good hair.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see what you mean. We punishing you, bro. We already know you soft. You had to prove light skin and had good hair. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I see what you mean.
We punishing you, bro. We already know you saw you had to prove to us that you weren't, but in today's time, obviously, Oh Joe, you, you're a kid. You think that cause you know, I coached you this deal that you know, he saw.
Okay.
I believe it too, but I don't think Jason Tate him to solve.
I just think he has a different way of doing things.
Right.
I mean, he gets it done doing it, doing it his way.
Yeah, the man is a three time first team all NBA player.
He's on the championship team.
I guess because he didn't win the finals MVP
or he didn't win the Eastern Conference MVP,
that makes him soft.
So what is, so what is Nikola Jokic?
He's all for this.
All I know is he's a three time league MVP and a finals MVP.
That's all I know. Is he Shaq? No, everybody can't gotta be
everybody can't do what Shaq did. Everybody don't gotta be
cutthroat and trying to cut people's head off like Jordan.
At the end of the day, do you get the job done? Right? I mean,
look, there's many different deaths. DHL, there's UPS, there's FedEx, there's Amazon.
All of them will deliver your package.
Jason Tatum put the ball in at an elite level.
But hey, that's Jason, that's Brandon Jennings opinion.
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wherever you get your podcasts. podcast. That is it. If Josh Allen had Lamar Jackson stat this year, do you think he would have been a unanimous
MVP on that team?
He got absolutely.
What's higher than unanimous?
Oh, Joe, considering that he got Lamar stats, so he got 41, 42 touchdowns than unanimous consider, Oh, Oh Joe, considering that he,
his Lamar, he got Lamar stats.
So he got 41, 42 touchdowns, four interceptions, 900 yards rushing, and he
lost Gabe Davis and he lost Stefan Diggs and he lost, uh, uh, white and he lost
Michael Hyde and he lost for you and he lost Matt Milano for a large part of the
scene.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Damn.
So yes. And listen,. Damn so. Yes. And listen. But he don't.
Lamar got no stats. So Lamar's going to win the MVP. Sir K says, what's up guys? In
y'all's opinion, is Justin Herbert afraid of the playoff lags because regular
season game is amazing but the playoffs not so much. Why is that? I don't think so.
Guys.
Y'all see Patrick Mahomes and Brady got y'all spoiled because y'all think that is easy how soon to paint, how soon to paint man and win a playoff game.
His first day they went 13 and three his second year they went 13 and three.
They had the number one, they lost their home.
They lost their home.
You know, they lost to the Tennessee Titans.
And then they were getting beat 41 to nothing
by the Jets and Chad Pennington.
Yeah, oh, that defense was crazy back then, boy.
That Jess D?
No, that was before they had Reivers. No, I know, the defense was, it was good though., boy, that just D. No, that was before they had Reavis.
No, I know the defense was, it was good though.
Oh yeah. Yeah.
They were, um, bro, everybody's not going to have the success that Brady and that's
the thing Brady and Patrick Mahomes is ruined for a lot of people.
Look at Elway.
Look how long it took John to win, to win Super Bowls.
I mean, yeah, it took the drive for him to make a name
for himself he goes 98 yards he ties the game they end up winning in overtime but guys it's not easy
at all
I mean Lamar Lamar first couple of times he didn't win in the playoffs
it takes time and we think Lamar we don't think Lamar is a fraud do we
And we think Lamar, we don't think Lamar is a fraud, do we?
But Patrick Mahone, you know, his first year he takes starting, he goes to the AFC Championship game. He loses to Brady, he comes back and he wins it.
He goes back the next year, he loses in the Super Bowl.
He goes back, he misses it.
Since then, he goes and then he wins the next two years.
And y'all think that's common.
Y'all think that's normal.
Brady wins three championships in his first five years and y'all think that's common. Y'all think that's normal. Brady wins three championships in his first five years and y'all think that's normal.
It's not difficult.
It's hard to win in this league.
It's hard to win games.
It's doubly hard to win playoff games in this triple quadruple hard to win Superbowl.
Yeah.
And y'all better stop.
It's just like, you know, some people have success, Ocho.
It's just like now people like people think making money is easy.
Making money ain't easy.
Right.
Making money is easy.
I mean, you get a job and make money, but the type of money that they're talking about.
Oh, I want private jet money.
I want Rolls Royce and G-Wagon money.
It ain't easy making that kind of money, Ocho.
At all. At all.
At all.
Hold on, the right way?
The right way. Thank you.
Man, man, please.
Brandon Hall donated $100, new subscriber,
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Yes, thank you, Brandon, we really appreciate that. Yes, cuz I think it's a very worthy
cause. I really do. I love what he's doing. Uh I love to see
organization helping in the community. Um and uh a lot of
times II donate anonymously cuz I like doing that. Um but I
just wanted the chief to know that I really believe in him
and I really appreciate what he's doing.
Cal Simpson says, so I can, I'll show Ben a fan since I'll chose hall of fame induction on the sideline. Sorry. I'm late. Wanted to donate,
but had to pull over my semi first record,
80,000 gallons of gas to donate to the firefighters would be counterproductive.
You're absolutely right. Cal.
productive. You're absolutely right, Cal.
You should have came by here. Let me drive that thing. I back that thing up. Let me back, uh, back that rig up by two miles.
I back 18 wheel up two miles and won't even have to pull up once.
You won't.
You mad? Hey, you mad? I want you to look at him. Look at him. I ain't never seen him.
Damn.
Well, what am I going to be mad for?
My bad on you. My bad. Hold on. I had, remember, don him. I ain't never seen him. Damn. I'm sorry I said it. My bad, Ocho.
My bad.
Hold on.
Remember, don't forget I had a rig, man.
Damn.
I ain't saying anything.
I got my CDL.
You can't drive no truck, man,
especially now with no cab on the back.
I brought it up.
I don't even know why I'm mixing it.
Yeah, I'm just, you know.
If I know it's gonna be feeling, know it's gonna cause that kind of that kind of
problem damn. I'm just saying you you talk about driving and driving a rig like
it's easy it's not easy. You play the NFL easy? Oh no that's very difficult. Okay
then I did that. What you give it to give, I'll tell you what you do. Give me two weeks, I'll fly the space shuttle.
Give me two weeks and I'll take the space.
Hey, don't make me do it.
I jump the fence at Cape Cranabale and take off on you.
I'm gonna come bail you out too.
That's what they gonna have.
I'm gonna be up in the air, I ain't coming down.
All you hear is T minus four and counting.
Three, two, one.
We have ignition.
We have liftoff.
Man. Oh, get it.
Man.
Oh, said he was going to steal the space.
Man.
Oh, said he was going to steal the space shuttle.
Oh, I have a, all y'all see in the window.
Hey, well you get, you get up there and get stuck, boy.
You know you ain't coming down.
They will come get me.
All right, I'm gonna take it.
I'm gonna go to Mars.
Nah, y'all won't get that.
Jersey Girl 1973, say, Uncle and Uncle,
love the show, happy belated birthday
Can I wish my husband a happy birthday and he's a cigar guy. Do you have any recommendations? Oh, so Oh Joe
Well Jersey girl happy belated birthday to your husband. Hopefully you guys did something great
You guys got opportunity to celebrate you took him out to a nice dinner
You know rubbed his feet and then uh you know all the other stuff that married couples do. Oh Joe she says her
husband is a cigar guy is there any recommendation? I mean if he's a cigar
guy I don't know what his palate like I don't know what he you know what he
likes you know like spicy mild but for me for what I like I like I like dark I
like something a little heavy.
I like the Lunatic 70 gauge.
I love big ring gauges.
Let me see, what else could he try?
Obviously he can try one of my cigars, 85 cigars.
It's more of a rookie experience as a smoker,
so everyone can enjoy it.
But if he's a little bit more experienced
being that he is a cigar smoker,
that Lunatic 70 gauge is one that I love.
One that I love and I continue to go to.
The Andalusian Bull, obviously with Cigar of the Year,
I think in maybe 2015, that's a good smoke.
The Drone 1926 Series is another good one.
And that's just three off the back
that I smoked outside of my own.
Yeah, I don't know anything about no cigar. So I am going to hold you.
We're going to get you a cigar in New Orleans, man.
What am I going to do with it?
Smoke it.
I don't know about that.
Oh Joe, I don't know about that.
Oh Joe, cause you, you, I mean, you, my brother's a big cigar guy.
It is.
Well, what am I, you know what I did?
I, I've been on some cigars.
I was, I went to a Danny, Dan Marino, you know, he has a celebrity, he used to have
a celebrity golf tournament. I don't know, he had the celebrity, he used to have a celebrity
golf tournament.
I don't know if he has it anymore.
Right.
And I've been, I've been on these, they were like 10 of them and I wanted to bid for a
thousand dollars.
Oh.
They dried out though.
Damn.
You let the cigar dry out?
I didn't know I needed a humidor.
Hell, I thought I could just keep them.
It was all in a nice box.
I said, man, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told
him, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told
him, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told
him, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told
him, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told him, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, I told my brother, humidor. Hell, I thought I could just keep them.
It was all in a nice box. I said, I told my brother, I said,
bro, you can have these.
Right.
Oh, you trippin'.
Fell apart in his hand.
Bro, why are you not in the bed?
Damn, it's past your bedtime.
Wait, you got him on the bedtime, too? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He normally goes to bed. He normally goes to bed about eight o'clock
Okay, but I started a little early tonight, uh, and so we started seven so he was up
Come on get up get up
Okay, okay i'm gonna try to pet you
You kind of like TV, huh?
Yes, I see you I love you too buddy you're a big old boy
You want to treat You want a treat?
You want a treat?
All right.
We're about done.
I think this was the last one.
We got two more questions.
Ocho, we got two more questions, and then I'll get you a treat, okay?
Off.
Okay, Nemo Branson, what's up?
Ocho, love y'all podcast, and look up to you guys.
Can I get a birthday shout out?
I'll be turning 21 on Saturday.
What advice would you give to a guy who's turning 21 on Saturday?
I'm going to be turning 21 on Saturday.
I'm going to be turning 21 on Saturday.
I'm going to be turning 21 on Saturday. I'm going to be turning 21 on Saturday. I'm going to be turning 21 on Saturday. I'm going to be turning 21 on Saturday. I'm going to be turning 21 on Saturday. Okay, Nemo Branson, what's up? I can know Joe love y'all podcast and look up to you guys.
Can I get a birthday shout out?
I'll be turning 21 on Saturday.
What advice would you give on becoming a great man?
Nemo, thank you bro for watching.
Hopefully you're a subscriber.
Happy 21st birthday.
You'll never be 21 again.
That's supposed to be the entry.
Now you're supposed to be a man.
You can drink.
You can do a lot of different things.
What are some great advice becoming a great man?
Oh, that's a good one.
It is.
Be respectful.
Be kind, be receptive to courtesy, be considerate, take care of your responsibilities.
I take that very seriously.
I think all men should take care of their responsibility, whatever the case may be.
My responsibility is my family and I take that very, very serious.
But there's a lot of different things that you can do.
Um, be a great partner.
Um, I don't think it's like any singular thing.
Oh Joe, I think it's a combination of things of becoming a man.
There are a lot of things that make you a man, not necessarily your age and not
necessarily just one thing like, okay, I take care of my kids.
Okay. You're supposed to, you, you, I take care of my kids. Okay.
You're supposed to you, you help create them.
Hold me there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Rennel Byrd,
I know you're a longtime subscriber.
I have a question for y'all.
I want to hang out with my, I want, I want to hang out with my friend,
but she always has an excuse.
Should I give up?
Yeah.
Yeah.
After the after the first excuse, that's a wrap.
That's a wrap.
Don't play that game.
Listen.
Don't let her play that game.
How you like a puppet playing with you?
Yeah.
I don't know if you've ever spent any time with it.
It's a little bit more difficult, Ocho, once you are like, you spend time with someone and then they all of a
sudden they start playing these games because they kind of got your emotions.
You kind of invested a little bit.
Um, but if you've never like really hung out with her and you're hoping to hang
out with her and she always comes up with an excuse, bro, let that slide, bro.
Well, you know what the play is.
You know what it is.
And they think. lie bro. Well you know what the play is you know what it is. Nathan.
But at the end of the day bro, you got to
you got to be with who like you.
I mean sometimes the best one the best looking one the finest ones
they don't find you nearly as attractive as someone else.
So be with that person.
I ain't begging nobody to be with me.
Okay.
I might beg a little bit.
Choose who choose you.
I might beg a little bit, Ocho.
Oh, you beg a little bit?
Little bit.
Yeah.
Sometimes, sometimes, you know, you do, you do the begging early and sometimes you
sit back and reflect and you got to, sometimes you got to remember who you are now. Oh yeah. Sometimes you gotta remember who you are. They drag
you, they drag you too long and you start to remember man what the hell am I
doing? You snap out of that shit real quick now. Yeah yeah yeah you
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