Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: DJ Metcalf gets disrespected, Ocho's ideal qualities in a woman

Episode Date: April 26, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss DK Metcalf being disrespected by young kids, Ocho's ideal qualities in women, and much more! 3:00 - DK Mercalf gets disrespected 29:30 - Ocho's favo...rite qualities in women 45:00 - Much more Nightcap! (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)  #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:00 at the video. Hey, let's go. What you say? Why you say that? a look at the video. I like that. I like that. I mean, to you, you might not you know, you might not appreciate that. But obviously, where I'm from, the kids that I have to deal with in the inner city, I like the engagement. We had the same issue with Cam Newton earlier at his camp with the disrespect obviously i love for me me personally i'm not speaking for anyone else you might not like it i like when you
Starting point is 00:03:51 have players like that because someone like that if you do that i want to see your film if you're talking like that i want to see you got no fail exactly so why are you talking so i enjoy i i would engage in that i mean that's that's that's the era we're in that's today's society the kids we are today they watch film they see games in nfl where you don't have a good game they remember it see they remember it is this what we are now that kid is overly and blatantly disrespectful to adults is that what we are in society oh yeah yeah that's what we are. I'm just being honest. That's the way it is.
Starting point is 00:04:26 That's the way it is. I'm just being honest. And I enjoy that. I like the banter back and forth with kids. But I sit there for hours. Ocho, that's the problem, Ocho. You're not a child. A child's supposed to be in a child's place.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Why are you lowering yourself to their level? That's when they feel they can talk to you like that that's what i was trying to tell cam i said cam you're an adult why would you ever put yourself on the level of a child yeah it's kind of different it's just more it's more of it's more of a trash talking thing that's a child oh joe that ain't that ain't that ain't jaylen if you're going back and forth with an adult, somebody that's on your level. Yeah, see, you see it from a different lens than I do. But I understand what you mean.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I understand what you mean. The whole grown-up thing and you a child. I don't see it like that. Listen, you talk shit to me, I'm talking shit back. I don't care if you was a baby. You could be two years old. You say something, you finna get it back. It's the way I'm raised and the way we're raised down here. You got trash-talking star from two years old. You say something, you finna get it back. It's just the way I'm raised
Starting point is 00:05:25 and the way we're raised down here. You got trash talking starting from four years old. Five, six, seven, eight year old. Boy, listen, Pop Warner here. You know what I'm going to say? Pop Warner,
Starting point is 00:05:35 we talking about talking trash? If I'm DK, I said I'm going to check back with you in 10 years. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. See, you're trying to hit him where it hurt.
Starting point is 00:05:44 He probably ain't going to make it. That ain't got nothing him where it hurt. He probably ain't going to make it. That ain't got nothing to do with me. He probably ain't going to make it. So why are you talking to trash to somebody that made it? I mean, hold on. In order for you to, oh, somebody's your daddy, I mean, I need to, so I'm going to check. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I'm going to check. I'll be back in five to ten, I'm going to check. I'll be back. I'll be back in five to ten. I'm going to check. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't I don't I don't I don't engage. I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't do that.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I've never done that. You differ. You differ. But I'm just you don't you don't you don't play that shit, though. You differ. No, I'm big. I'm big on respect. That's the way my grandparents raised me.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I don't care if it was a family member or not. As a child, we were taught to stay in our place. And maybe that's a Southern thing, and maybe that's outdated. But it's never going to be outdated for me. I raised my kids to be respectful. Don't be disrespectful. And I'm not talking about this, your mom or your grandparents.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Right. Just walk away. Somebody says something to you. Hey, I tell my kids, Hey, just walk away. Just walk away.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Don't be disrespectful. Don't be sassy. Talking back. I don't like that. I mean, and like I said, like cam, I told when this video, when that first
Starting point is 00:07:06 video happened, when the dude was talking about Cam and he was talking about Cam, you were free. I said something. I called his dad and said, I'm done. I'm going to give my time. I give my time. I'm taking away from my family to give back. Are you talking Jack? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:07:25 What? Yeah. Oh, you're Jack? Yes, sir. What? Yeah. Oh, you're a free agent. But Cam was the number one overall pick. The man has made millions. You hope you pray to one day have a third of the career that Cam has had. Let alone be the first overall pick. Be a Heisman Trophy winner.
Starting point is 00:07:44 let alone be the first overall pick be a heisman trophy winner one of you could make a case that he had one of the he's one of the five ten greatest quarterback college players to ever play based on what he did with what he had to do it with man these kids man they drive me crazy i hate this i hate this yeah it's just you may chat maybe i'm too old. Maybe I'm just old school. Maybe I, you know, and I get it,
Starting point is 00:08:08 but that's why, like I said, I just, I just think kids now and parents don't check kids. They think that ish is cute. They think it's, Oh, that's my baby.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And I, man, stop that. What, what are they going to go to? What, you know, what that's going to lead to normally disrespectful kids yeah end up where
Starting point is 00:08:26 ocho yeah yeah behind them walls yeah yeah it's it's well you but you will you will you wouldn't like it you will you wouldn't like it out here boy you wouldn't like it out here because that's that that is how we are bred from birth. We talking. We talking. Especially with, listen, listen, we draw the line. There's a line. There's trash talking in football.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And then there's the yes, sir, no, sir. That respect. When it comes to the game of football, boy, everything is a green light. Regardless of age. Me and you? Oh, when I'm here, boy, everything is a green light, regardless of age. Me and you? Oh, when I'm a kid, yeah, I'm trash talking. I'm going back and forth. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I mean, I might say, hey, Coach, Coach Cowan, he can't cover me. I might say, hey, he, but I'm not going to be, you know, disrespectful. Not to no dog, even though I'm an adult. Right now, when we like I'm saying like, but players. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I got some for you. Oh, yeah. But not but not as but not as a child. Yeah, I understand what you mean. Boy, I couldn't imagine. Oh, Joe. Yeah. You know, you know, it's difficult for me
Starting point is 00:09:46 and difficult for me to explain it to you. But if there's anybody in this chat, fellas, or even some of the ladies, if you are from Miami, if you're from anywhere in Florida, they understand exactly what I mean. It's just a part of how we are. It's a part of how we're wired mentally,
Starting point is 00:10:03 regardless of age. It's just something i do now i understand your point and the side you're coming from with it being kids and being disrespectful it's just the it just i don't know how to explain it i don't either i don't explain it that's that's that's upbringing man i couldn't i could not even imagine yeah somebody coming and telling my grandmother or my grandfather that that boy was disrespectful because back then they didn't call nobody by their name they called him son or they called him boy son boy you know my grandfather hey boy hey brain is hey son
Starting point is 00:10:36 come here so and that's the way that's the way old people always address everybody yeah hey mary you know them boys hey mary can them boys come help me? Hey, Mary, which one of them boys is such and such? Mary, I saw that boy. Hey, Barney, them boys, can they come do? So that's... Man. Yes, ma'am. Are you Barney's married grandboy?
Starting point is 00:10:58 Yes, ma'am. How you grandma doing? She doing good, ma'am. Okay, I'll tell her. Okay, thank you. That's the way we just brought up. And maybe that's kind of why we went kind of sideways. Because parents, maybe because parents started getting younger and younger.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And the discipline wasn't instilled like it was back then now that's not to say all kids were like that I mean some kids were disrespectful sure but I don't know if it was to the level
Starting point is 00:11:38 of somebody in the chat told me he wasn't disrespectful that was probably their child. But you know what, Ocho? Maybe kids were just as disrespectful. Maybe it wasn't because the cameras, it wasn't cameras to catch everything. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I'm not saying I was in all places but i'm just in the area that i was around and what i saw growing up it was always respect i mean you know like i said i mean coach you used to grab your body face mask and do all kind of stuff now obviously that stuff oh i just thought about that yeah yeah obviously you wouldn't you wouldn't do that. But, yeah, this... Matter of fact, Funk, you remember, you ever saw the documentary, The Year of the Bull? Uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Miami Northwestern? No, I know of the school, but I didn't see the doc. Yeah. Listen, there's a documentary just based on football here in the inner city, obviously, where we're from and how the coaches coach
Starting point is 00:12:45 and how the players play and just how we carry ourselves and conduct ourselves in that manner. And it's kind of different. It's kind of different than everybody else. And I think for those in the chat, if you haven't seen the Year of the Bull, I mean, it'd be dope for you to check it out.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And it just, it kind of explains our culture, where we're from and and kind of give you somewhat of why we operate the way we do and why we don't see stuff like this situation here so and I don't know it's pretty dope but again I see it from your lens and where you're seeing it from and I kind of also see it from my lens based on my surroundings
Starting point is 00:13:32 and where I'm from and how I was brought up not in the household because you know I am yes sir yes ma'am I'm just talking about strictly from
Starting point is 00:13:41 a football standpoint with other kids oh I cussed them out I bet you ain't no daughter I bet you ain't no daughter. I bet you ain't no adults around because if the adults went back and told my grandma and grandfather that I was cussing, you're gonna get tore up. But if ain't no, I'm looking.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Man, shut up. F you. But I think another thing is Ocho, our parents weren't our friends. No, they ain't. My grandfather and grandmother would tell you ass up and they ain't tell you, you want some ice cream? They tell you ass up
Starting point is 00:14:10 and tell you to go to bed. Go to bed? It's 4 o'clock! Yeah. Hold on, tell them! It's 4 o'clock in the afternoon. What you talking about go to bed? Damn damn I just got home from school at three right right right it's different so I get it I just you know
Starting point is 00:14:34 like I said I did the best job that I could with my kids I tried to instill and hopefully they pass that on down to my grandkids and my grandkids pass it on down to them but hey to each his own y'all raise y'all kids how y'all want to. And hey, Ocho Nye's time for Q
Starting point is 00:14:49 and A. And A. D. Reese said, takeaways from tonight. F. Atlanta for drafting a quarterback after signing a quarterback for four years, 180 with 100 million guaranteed and F the Lakers for getting swept.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Hey, D Reese, man, you all won tonight. I feel the same way, bro. I mean, maybe not as strong. I'm not to the point of F the Falcons for drafting a quarterback. But it's got my head spinning
Starting point is 00:15:28 also. But the Lakers, I guarantee, yeah, the Lakers getting swept. Now what happens if they come back? Come back for where? Now what happens if the Lakers come back and shock the world and all of a sudden you're going to have to walk back everything you said?
Starting point is 00:15:46 Since and shock the world and all of a sudden you're going to have to walk back everything you said? Since no team has ever come back in NBA history from 03. You're right. You're right. You're right. So, update.
Starting point is 00:16:02 GM Falcons Terry Fontenot said of Drafted, if you believe in a quarterback, you have to take him. And if he sits for four or five years, that's a great problem to have because we're doing so well at that position. But you can't let him sit. With the current system, Ocho, you've got to make a decision. That's why they're not letting quarterbacks sit.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I got to find out. Because I got to make a decision. Do I give you $300 million or do I let you go? He's living in the world when you came up. Carson Palmer. You draft a quarterback and you let him sit behind kitten yeah kitten oh yeah or you yeah no no no no not not in today's maybe a year but normally you don't sign a quarter but you don't draft a quarterback when you just signed a quarterback
Starting point is 00:17:00 at free agency for that kind of money now oh, if you got a quarterback and you only gave him, say, hey, you signed him to a one-year deal, $10 million. You draft Phoenix, I ain't got no problem with that. None whatsoever. You know he's there. Hopefully the veteran takes him under his wing, teaches him a thing or two, how to prep, how to go about the thing,
Starting point is 00:17:19 how to influence. The coach is going to come to you, what plays you like. Coach, I really like these plays. Coach, I ain't really fond on that one. This is what I like on first down. This is what I like on second down. I like this call on fourth down. You know, he's just telling him how to have a relationship with his coach,
Starting point is 00:17:35 with his coordinator, with his quarterback coach. I'm with you. I'm with you, D. Reese. I don't get this. Social media is going crazy. I don't know what y'all... I mean, you say you like it, but I ain't with that one.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I do. Again, he's coming off an Achilles injury. There is no... Why the hell you give him $180 million if he coming off an Achilles injury? I just told you earlier why they did it. Hold on. You can't use that argument and then just destroy your own argument. Well, actually I can use the argument because they just gave it to them.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Yes. They gave it to them, they just come off of Achilles and they wanted some security. They want some security for the future and their security for the future was drafting Michael Pena Jr. So hold on. That's it. That's the only answer. That's the only answer behind it now there's no way i can make it make sense because they did it i'm just i'm just trying to i'm just trying to figure out that you say the guy is 34 34 years of age he's coming off an achilles injury and you say you know what we know what he gonna give us let's give him 180 with 50 with 100 guaranteed
Starting point is 00:18:42 listen that that that that that is basically what the market required you to give him no matter what. If the market required you to give him that, why draft the quarterback? Did the market require you to do that? I'm not Arthur Blank. I don't know. Who would you be? You better know. That's your money to give him the weight.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Hey, I just gave you a small scenario in the best way I could make sense of it. Oh, how about this here? This is how I would do you. Y'all just bought that house and what you call it, right? Didn't y'all just get a new house? Yeah. Real come home and say,
Starting point is 00:19:15 hey, baby, guess what? We just got a new house for 15 million. You gonna lose your money. You see? You see the look you just gave? That's what I'm talking about. That's all I want. I ain't gonna say no more. I don't want to say no more i'm gonna move on chris mark shall say oh do you think oh do you think the longer bra stays in the league it hurts his legacy for the
Starting point is 00:19:35 goat debate i mean here's the thing i mean the guy averaged 20 26 eight 7. So y'all want him to just walk away playing at this level. He's probably going to be an all NBA selection. Mm-hmm. I can see if he was hanging around, if LeBron was hanging around. And not being productive? Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yes. That's different. That's different. That's different. And I don't think Braun will be one of that because when you... Ocho, when you up here... Get right here so the camera can see.
Starting point is 00:20:14 When you up here, even if you slip to right here and you start to get old, that bothers you. Let alone take a precipitous and you here, you go from being one of the top five players in the league. And now it's kind of like when they told when Kobe was Kobe and they say
Starting point is 00:20:31 they had Kobe, I think they had Kobe, the 40th best player in the NBA. I remember that. Kobe really never responds. Kobe like, man, y'all watch out there.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I'm not. Yeah. So I don't think LeBron will stay around. I could be wrong. But I don't see LeBron. If LeBron had a year where he averaged 15 points, LeBron gone. Yeah. When you have 20 straight seasons of averaging at least 25.
Starting point is 00:21:00 At least 25? That's crazy work. Yes! That's crazy work. Yes! That's crazy work. Yes! That's crazy. So, no, but I don't. Cameron Norwood said,
Starting point is 00:21:15 my question is more likely to win offensive rookie of the year, Harrison Jr. or Jayden Daniels? Daniels, the quarterback? Yeah, yeah. He got the ball. He going out to the Wolves right away. He going out to the Wolves right away.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And look at the division he in, too. You got the Eagles. You got the Cowboys. You got the Giants. Ooh, that. Yeah. I mean, because think about it. Think about the rookie year that Justin Jefferson that. Yeah. I mean, cause think about it. Think about the year,
Starting point is 00:21:45 the rookie year that Justin Jefferson had. Yeah. Justin Herbert won rookie of the year. I went to a quarterback no matter what. Unless, unless this joke is just ball completely out of his mind. Right. Cause,
Starting point is 00:22:02 uh, the guy from the jets won the rookie of the year two years ago what's the wide receiver gary wilson yeah the quarterback that came in and played particularly well but if you get a quarterback that played well oh he getting that award yeah because down the road, that's going to look good. Officer rookie of the year. I'll be officer rookie of the year.
Starting point is 00:22:29 On that resume when it's time, when it's contract year. But all things being equal. Jane Daniels, if he has a good season, they normally going to give it to a guy that plays
Starting point is 00:22:42 because they're going to say, well, Harrison plays a dependent position. But could he win it?'re normally going to give it to a guy that plays because they're going to say, well, Harrison plays a dependent position. But could he win it? He's going to need to have one of the more Randy Moss type seasons. Yeah, because he won it because he and Peyton came in the same year.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Peyton threw 28 picks. How are we going to give it to him? It was 3-13. How are we giving it to a guy on a 3-13 team that threw 28 picks and ran them all and had 17 touchdowns? And on a 15-1 team. Brent Frazier says,
Starting point is 00:23:13 Shadur Sanders says he wants to play in Dallas. Cowboys, baby. Can you see it happening? Well, the Cowboys, I mean, what does he want to do? Does he want to be a high draft pick or do he want to play the Cowboys? Now, the one thing we know about the Cowboy, I mean, what does he want to do? Does he want to be a high draft pick or do he want to play the Cowboys? Now, the one thing we know about the Cowboys, they don't trade up.
Starting point is 00:23:31 They trade down because Jerry values the draft and he doesn't want to give up draft capital to move up and select a player. And, you know, Prime already came out and said he named the teams he would want his son to play for dallas was one of them san francisco was another i forgot the other two it was two more named but i remember those two clear as day that that'd be nice during dallas i tell you what you do wish in one hand and poop in the other and see which one fill up first which one you think will happen oh joe
Starting point is 00:24:07 okay exactly but the question is like what is what does your door want does he want to be a high draft pick because really when it comes down to in time and i've had this discussion is but see time time is but time was going to be time anywhere. Everybody ain't been kissed by God like that. Some people are exclusive to the situation that they're in. Time could have went to Detroit. He could have went to Green Bay. And he was going to be time.
Starting point is 00:24:41 He's that. He's it. Yeah. So if he wants to be a high draft pick, it's probably not going to be in Dallas. If he wants to go to like, okay, I want to play in Dallas. I want to play for the Cowboys. My dad played
Starting point is 00:24:56 for the Cowboys. I grew up in Dallas. I think he was in Plano or South Lake, somewhere like out there. No, he didn't hear Frisco or Canton. One of those, and I think he in Canton. Okay, that's something entirely different. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:11 But I would think that as a quarterback, you want to be like the first pick or high draft pick. But hey, that's it. That's something that he and his dad will sit down and try to map out. But all this is wants to play in Dallas is contingent on how you play this year. That's what it's based on. You play well.
Starting point is 00:25:35 If you play well, he ain't playing in Dallas. It's really that simple. It's really that simple, Ocho. He plays like he thinks he can play. He ain't going to Dallas. Scooby Cube says, hey guys, I just wanted to thank you for watching both of you on the field and engaging with you and this platform. I work full
Starting point is 00:25:52 time and I'm a grad student at USC. No matter how busy, tired I am, I'm always excited to tap in. Scooby! Bro, I appreciate that. Appreciate that, Scooby. I mean, to work full time and be a grad student at USC, I'm sorry, you know, you guys have some things that's goingoby. I mean, to work full-time and be a grad student at USC, I'm sorry, you know, you guys have some
Starting point is 00:26:07 things that's going on on the campus, and so hopefully that gets resolved real, real soon. But, bro, I appreciate that. Continue the hard work and much success coming to you in the future, bro, but thank you for checking in. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal.
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Starting point is 00:29:14 Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy says, what are the three most important qualities, features you look for in a woman? Money. Money. Some feet. feet and you gotta have kids love money man they told me i can't wear my shirt no more they did you clown my shirt what's your uh uh stepdaddy material yeah they said man man uh that's disrespect for the women yeah they said man man oh that's disrespect for the women no it ain't hi man also some people some people get on social media because they're so upset with their lives and they want everybody
Starting point is 00:29:54 else to be upset along with them find some find something to complain about every time it's just a shirt i didn't say i did not say baby mama suck I didn't say if you got kids I wouldn't I didn't say none of that yeah listen
Starting point is 00:30:11 those are my prerequisites man listen please have pretty feet have a little money and have and have have kids if you ain't had no
Starting point is 00:30:21 if you don't got kids I can't do nothing with you how about this Ocho you gotta have at least at least 700 credit. Okay. I like that. I like that. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:30:35 700 credit. You got to be motivated. Mm. Mm. You got to be motivated. Hmm. I ain't. I ain't. Well, you're thinking hard. I am, man. Because when I think about it i'm really i'm really not that
Starting point is 00:31:07 i'm picky but i'm not picky i ain't saying that you know man she need to be six foot tall she need to be you know have you know this she need to be that you know obviously you know we're visual creatures i mean we like some level of physical attraction. I mean, all this notion. I mean, if you're not physically attracted, they're talking about, oh, man, it's a personality. She need
Starting point is 00:31:35 to be wearing that because that's something I can't see. I need to see. I got glasses to make sure I can see. Talk about her beauty inside. She's beautiful inside. to see. I got glasses to make sure I can see a hell of a lot. Talk about her beauty inside. She's beautiful inside. Well, y'all need to flip her ass inside out so I can see it.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I'm a visual creature, so man, I need to see. Hey, that's a good one to see hey that's a good one I honestly don't know I mean obviously I want somebody driven I want somebody hard working
Starting point is 00:32:14 yeah loyal loyalty yeah because i want to be in a situation oh joe that if i tell you something even if you if you grow to despise, you would never share it with anyone else. Okay. Because you, if you tell me something,
Starting point is 00:32:52 it goes to my grave. Yeah, that's where the buck stops. That's it. That's it. Yeah, that's hard to find, brother. It is, because when people, especially with women, women get mad, and then,
Starting point is 00:33:07 because they'll get mad, and then they'll do something and they're like, well, I'm sorry. Sometimes sorry can't fix it. Yeah. Most of the time it can't. It's funny. It's funny. I say it all the time. When I talk when you talk about loyalty.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And this goes for everybody. Sometimes some of the women won't even like what i'm about to say the loyalty is nothing but a word in the dictionary between opportunity and convenience loyalty is nothing but a word in the dictionary between between opportunity whatever the opportunity is that's presenting itself okay because of the opportunity is making my situation convenient so when i get them to okay it's easy for me to be loyal oh it's it was easy to be loyal when it's when it's fucking convenient and it's a great opportunity or it's making my life easier shit of course i'm gonna be loyal yeah and i'm a guy ocho i won't let a bad month or a bad year ruin like we i've been in relationships
Starting point is 00:34:09 where it's been great for two or three years the last six months wasn't good we go our separate ways those last six months won't supersede those those two or three years that we had great right right right right right okay what didn't work. It didn't work out between me and you. But I thoroughly enjoyed those two to three great years that we had. Yeah. So, you know what, Ocho? I take it, protect the brand. Protect the brand.
Starting point is 00:34:36 So you done? Everything off the table? If you can't protect the brand... Yeah. Because I worked hard, really hard. That's it. I got kids.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I think about my kids. I think about my family. I think about my family name because that's really the only thing I, yeah, I paid for, you know, Digger Jones once told me,
Starting point is 00:35:02 say, son, what you owe your kids is an education. After that, anything you give them after that is voluntary. I tried to give them the best education that I possibly could, that I could afford. And I gave him my last name. I want them to protect it. That's their job to protect it.
Starting point is 00:35:24 That's not your job. But I ask you, I ask that it be your job. Just like I'm going to protect your brand. I'm going to protect your last name. That's how I am. I know it's like I'm simplistic and other people might have something is that's more important but i've worked a lifetime i've worked 56 years to try to put myself in this position and i understand in the blink of an eye can be can be gone. It can be gone like that. Yeah. I just saw somebody
Starting point is 00:36:06 in the comments say, loyalty is family structure. Can I ask you a question? What's the one thing that's root of all evil that tears families apart? That dollar. So it's the same thing
Starting point is 00:36:22 what I just said about opportunity and convenience same thing even when it comes to family the one thing families fight and argue over the dollar I'm fortunate
Starting point is 00:36:38 I know my mom jokes if I knew I was going to have two boys in the NFL I'd have had two more. But my mom, she say that now, but she told my dad, my dad wanted another, but my mom said, I'm done. Because my mom said, well, Mary, my mom's name is Mary Alice.
Starting point is 00:37:00 But everybody, most, everybody call her Alice. They're like, Alice, what you want mom said I don't give a damn if it's a lizard I'm done but the way we are like I said Ocho I mean me
Starting point is 00:37:18 my brother and my sister our relationship is different yeah I'm the youngest my sister's eight years older than me my brother's three years older than me and they're more like my mother and father than my brother and sister. But we're extremely close. Have we ever disagreed? Absolutely. Do we still disagree? Absolutely. We're human. We don't see things out of eye. We're brother and sister, but we don't see things out of eye. But the one thing that will will never and i don't use the word never because i never means not of never means now and for always nothing will ever come between
Starting point is 00:37:54 me and my brother and sister nothing nothing that would that would that would kill my grandmother over again nah nothing if it took me giving away everything that I got every dime that I got every house everything that I'll make to keep the peace with my brother and sister y'all have all that
Starting point is 00:38:20 I don't give a damn about that as long as I got them I'll be broke with them as long as I got them I'll be broke with them as long as I got they got right ain't nothing coming between my brother and sister nothing not a thing
Starting point is 00:38:34 never ever that will never happen right uh oh uh oh jazz smooth rocking body I recently got engaged to my beautiful girlfriend Uh-oh. Jazz Smooth. Jazz Smooth. Jazz Smooth. Racking bodies. Hey, Ocho. I recently got engaged to my beautiful girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Kenyaya? Kenya. Kenya? Kenya. K-A-N-I-Y-A-H. Kenyaya. See? Spell Ocho.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Spell Ocho. You see what I mean? No, it's not the spelling. It's the pronunciation. Right. Can you give us... Sound it out. Spellocho. No, it's not the spelling. It's the pronunciation. Right. Can you give... Sound it out. Sound it out. I'm sounding it. But it sounds like I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Kanaya. Okay. Kanaya. Can you give her a shout out and any advice for our future? Congratulations, guys. Congratulations, Kanaya. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. congratulations guys um congratulations yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:39:27 man any advice that shoot you gotta live it up you gotta have fun
Starting point is 00:39:37 enjoy the enjoy the honeymoon phase no when the honeymoon phase wears off find another way to reinvent yourselves and falling in love.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Find a way to, you got to reinvent it. Because once that honeymoon phase wears off and you start getting complacent and you get comfortable, it happens. It's going to happen. I don't care how much you try to spice it up.
Starting point is 00:40:00 It's going to happen. You're going to get complacent. You got to find a way to reinvent it. And the words of Earth, Wind, and Fire, Ocho, after the love games have been played, after all our illusions, can you find a reason? Just move.
Starting point is 00:40:16 There it is. There it is. Can you find a reason? There it is. Keep it going. J. Matt said, been a fan fs1 and your first guest on club uh on the club congrats on the awards question how do you keep a straight face without your star captain whoa whoa whoa time out time out time out time out right there yellow flag on the plate name one story i don't i don't anytime i speak on here on nightcap is through experience and things that i've gone through in life nothing is a lie
Starting point is 00:40:51 nothing is a lie i tell you i lie for you be i lie for you before i lie to you that go for all lay on you i love y'all. I wouldn't lie to you. I'm telling you. Nah. I never do that. I don't do that. No, no. No, not me. Not me. Anything I've said, I've done. I promise you, I got footage. I think the thing is that when you got to
Starting point is 00:41:23 try to keep a straight face. Because a lot of times like when i'm in when i'm when i'm having a conversation with people on club shea shea i'd be thinking to myself i don't i don't know if that's the truth but you know i just hey i just it's not my place it's not my place. It's not my place. So I just like, you know, I'm laughing. But look, I don't understand. I don't understand. The funny thing about it is, is I don't understand how people think I'm lying when I have video footage. But everything I've ever seen lying when I have video footage, but everything I've ever said. You do?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Everything. I got video footage. But see, I don't have consent from the people to release the footage. So y'all have to take my word for it because I've never lied to you before. I have no reason to lie to y'all because I tell you every day I love you. So when somebody loves you, they don't lie to you. And if I got to lie to you, I'm saying it because I don't want to hurt you. And we're not in a situation where what I'm saying going to hurt. So I'm just giving you my life experiences and I'm just sharing my story.
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Starting point is 00:45:15 had and the awards that we've won not only for just Club Shea Shea but for Nightcap because this is a package deal and you know what Cat told me? Cat says, every time you win an award, I get a prize. Man. So he FaceTimed me.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I said, oh, so every time I get something, you get something. Yeah. He's like, he's shaking his head. Yep. I sure do. I sure do. But it's been great. I mean, Ocho, man, this year is even better than I could have imagined.
Starting point is 00:45:59 And, you know, I mean, I thought it could be good. But even what I imagined wasn't this. Right. Not this, Ocho, not the success. I thought, Ocho, when we tell people that nightcap was supposed to be 20 minutes every Sunday, Monday, and Thursday, it was supposed to be a wrap-up of the games on Monday night,
Starting point is 00:46:23 which was one game, the game on Thursday night, one game one game, the game on Thursday night, one game, and maybe we hit the Sunday night game and maybe one to two other games. But it was supposed to be 20 minutes long. And I remember, I was like,
Starting point is 00:46:40 damn, is anybody going to really watch this? But I remember when it went sideways, when we were telling the story about dating. And I don't know how, I don't ask like, you want to talk about this dating? I was like, yeah, let's put it there. But I had no idea that I was going to tell the story because only a handful of people, only my closest closest of friends, my sister didn't know it, my brother didn't know it,
Starting point is 00:47:08 only probably two people have ever heard me tell that story. Keith Burns and Darryl McCormick, Burns and Bucket. Those are the only two people that ever told it. Maybe I told it to Foots, Rod Smith, but there's only three people that told that story. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:47:23 I told them knowing they would never tell it. I said, man, I'm going to take this to my grave. I ain't going to tell nobody that. And then I remember when we was talking about it, I was like, man, do I tell it? I'm like, how is it going to be received? I'm like, hey, I'm going
Starting point is 00:47:39 for it. I'm going to tell the story. And I told it. I didn't know. I didn't know. Yeah. But when I woke up the next morning, it was, it was over.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I meet people. Oh, Joe, I meet people. Even women. Hey, would you let me order the lunch? Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I'm going through, I'm going through, I'm going through TSA. And so, you know, I got to go through. My man said, hey, I'm only going to pat you down one time. It ain't going to be no three or four times
Starting point is 00:48:22 you come through. I'm only going to pat you down one time. It ain't going to be no three or four times you come through. I will. That's a good one. So it goes, it goes to, it goes to show you that,
Starting point is 00:48:39 that people listen. Hey, I've had pilots. Ash was with me. The pilots say that story that you told was the most incredible story I'd ever heard and I was like that's what I knew
Starting point is 00:48:56 kind of like we had something Ocho I knew then but still the wars that we're winning Ocho and we ain't done then, but still the wars that we're winning, Ocho. And we ain't done. Mm-hmm. Say what's up. Say hey.
Starting point is 00:49:13 What you doing up this time of night? Yeah, what you doing up this time of night? You got school tomorrow? No. Oh, she playing hooky. She playing hooky from school. What you want? All right, give me youry. She playing hooky from school. What you want? All right, give me your phone. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:29 What you want? All right. Give me the charger. Oh. We, you know, they're not, the kids, they out of school. We filming something right now. So they taking off. They filming with me tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Oh, y'all doing a reality show? Let's shop. A little something, something? Yeah, let's shop. Let's shop. So what you... So what's your takeaways
Starting point is 00:50:00 from tonight's draft? I mean, to me, I like Amherst Mims that we got. Obviously, the band. You need lines. Yeah, you better protect Joe. Listen, we got both. We got Trent Brown, Orlando Brown, Trent Brown.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Now we got Amherst Mims. And, you know, Joe's had some injuries these past two seasons. I think it's very important for us to be able to keep him upright. And so we can have some success. I would hope we get it figured out. What we also need to do, we need to take care of Chase. I would like T. Higgins' situation figured out.
Starting point is 00:50:33 And obviously now we have Trey Henderson who's also asked for a trade because he's looking for some long-term security. It's unfortunate when you're winning and you have players that are playing well at their respective positions because listen, we haven't won no Super Bowl, but players want to get
Starting point is 00:50:52 paid based on their production and what they've been doing. So I'm hoping they get that figured out. Obviously that Atlanta pick with Penix, it was weird, and I made the most sense of it that I could. Um,
Starting point is 00:51:07 I'm excited for Malik, Malik neighbors. I love, I love, love, love. Um, last name Collins.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Uh, I can't remember his first name. The DB from Clemson. Oh, Wiggins. Wiggins, Wiggins, Wiggins,
Starting point is 00:51:22 Wiggins. Where did Wiggins go? Where did he go? Where did he go? I can't remember where he went. I like, I like that pick Wiggins, Wiggins. Where did Wiggins go? Where did he go? Where did he go? I can't remember where he went. Hold on. I like that pick. I like that pick as well.
Starting point is 00:51:29 For some reason, the receivers are cool, but I love the DBs. I love where the DBs are going. Oh, he went to BMore. Okay, he went to Baltimore. That's right. That's why he went to Baltimore. Xavier Worthy, if I'm not mistaken. He went to KC at 28.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Went to Kansas City. I like that pick, too. Xavier Worthy, if I'm not mistaken. He went to KC at 28. Went to Kansas City. I like that pick, too. I'm curious to see. I'm curious to see what... Go ahead. I'm curious to see how Andy Reid and Patrick Holmes use him and that speed. That Tyreek? He gonna be that
Starting point is 00:52:00 Tyreek? Well, a little faster. A little faster. Now, if he's able to put it all together the way Tyreek has, if he can put it all together, understand me. Just tell, you know what, Xavier Worthy, come on down here, hot legend boy.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Come see me for two months. I'll have you right. I don't think you got that kind of time. I think the thing is, look, here's the thing. There's one thing to run fast. There's another thing to play fast. Fast. Oh, yeah. Tyreek not only ran fast, he plays fast. He plays fast. But if you look at Worthy,
Starting point is 00:52:29 if you look at Worthy on film, he actually is fast and plays fast as well. So I'm hoping it will translate. And what's number 32? Yeah. Carolina traded back into the first round they had number pick 33 the first pick of the second round they traded back
Starting point is 00:52:51 excuse me into the first and take the leg it give uh bryce young someone to throw the ball to yeah i like it i like the pick i like it a lot what about the DB what was the DB name from where the new Jason Sehorne he didn't go yet to Iowa he from Iowa he hadn't gone yet
Starting point is 00:53:17 no he did where he did no no I thought he went No. Where? He did? No. No. I thought he went. Mitchell, Toledo was the first DB selected
Starting point is 00:53:32 and he went to Philly and Terian Arnold was the second DB from Alabama. He went to Detroit. Okay. Okay, okay, okay. And then Nate Wiggins was the third DB taken. He went to Bemore. He hasn't been selected yet. but I know you're talking about
Starting point is 00:53:48 yeah he's gonna probably go early in the second round yeah I can only remember in my time in the league as far as corners Scott Case you'll probably remember Scott Case
Starting point is 00:54:04 he came out of Oklahoma. He had 10 picks one year. Yeah. They must have kept testing him. They kept testing him. Yeah, I think he might have been in Atlanta at the time when he got those picks. Cooper DeJohn, is that his name? I don't know. I think that's the DB name you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I think his name, Cooper Dijon. Yeah. I think he wear number three, if I'm not mistaken. I like him. I like him. He's saucy with it. Ocho, before we get out of here, I want you to ask you, because people always ask me, what's the key to y'all's success?
Starting point is 00:54:48 I was like, so I want you to tell people what you think the key to our success is to us yes oh hey that that's a good one that's a good one i think um the chemistry man the chemistry i it's so goddamn cliche because we always say it and i think um we play off each other very well like sanford and son i'm not saying we i'm not saying we we we fred and lamont but i'm just saying they play off each other very well when you watch the cast of martin everybody plays off each other very well. It just makes sense. Like, we like a Lego. You know, when you put Legos together, it just fits.
Starting point is 00:55:31 There's really no way to really explain why we work. It just works. And you have to think, we knew of each other, but we didn't have a relationship that close. But you would watch us on Nightcap and think we've known each other goddamn 80 years you know it it just works our our personalities are are similar we're different we on totally two different ends of the spectrum yeah yeah because i'm way over here way i'm way up the other side but it just it just worked and i think because we're we're so opposite in certain areas it just makes everything that much better it makes everything
Starting point is 00:56:11 that much better so it's really hard to explain why it works it just does and there's some things that don't even really need explaining you just you just gotta you just gotta enjoy for what it is i think the biggest thing is yeah, the chemistry, but relatability. Yeah. Yeah. People want to believe that, man,
Starting point is 00:56:40 if Unc came over to the cookout, he would be just like he is on Nightcap. He would be just like that. Yes, sir. People believe that if Ocho, if I was in Ocho's presence, he would be just like he is right now. Because when people look at me,
Starting point is 00:56:55 they're like, I got an uncle or I got a friend. I got somebody come to a family reunion or a cookout or a get-together and he's just like Unc. And I got a homeboy or I got a cousin that's just like Ocho.
Starting point is 00:57:12 So they can relate to us. Yes, we have great. Yeah, I'm here. I got strengths here. You got strengths there. We play to each other's strengths and we play well off each other yes the chemistry we've gotten better and better as you said we did we knew of each
Starting point is 00:57:31 other but we didn't know each other like we hung or ever been in out somewhere and been in the presence of each other but it i knew it would work because because you silly I'm serious we can't have two silly mofos on here so I gotta be serious and I think you know obviously
Starting point is 00:58:01 you played the game I played the game we both played the game. I played the game. We both played the game at an extremely high level. High level. High level, yeah. And so that's one of the reasons. I think because we're relatable. We're authentic. I mean, what you see is what you get.
Starting point is 00:58:17 And what you see is what it is. I ain't changing. Hell nah. I ain't changing. Yeah. And, you know know so we understand that we're not everybody's cup of tea everybody ain't gonna like us so Joe that's okay cause everybody
Starting point is 00:58:31 don't like everybody doesn't matter how great something is everybody's not gonna like it and that's okay but we have enough people to like us and we're growing and so once you know once even if you know But we have enough people to like us and we're growing. And so once, you know, once even if, you know, I say something negative about your team or your favorite player, whether you say something negative about somebody's team or favorite player, you're like, we're still likable.
Starting point is 00:59:03 We still like. Yeah. So. likable we're still likable yeah so we're only gonna get better we're only gonna be you know do more things uh the first year was like feeling it out it's like a freshman in college like you go to school you're like okay where where's okay where's my dorm okay where's the library okay where are we gonna have study hall where you know where's the dining hall you know what it's figuring things out okay this is where you know hang out off campus this is where your sophomore year you start to figure it out okay yeah like that yeah that's what i'm gonna do this is what i'm gonna do so uh i'm excited i'm excited for the upcoming season um and you know we weren't sure whether or not we
Starting point is 00:59:53 were gonna do this thing for the entirety because originally we was only gonna do it during the season yeah their football season yeah and then you know like hey you know hey you know, hey, you're like, hey, man, I like this, man. We ought to keep doing it. Like, damn. That is... I mean, you know, I was thinking about, you know, do a little something. You know, I had a little time on my hands.
Starting point is 01:00:17 But yeah, I mean, now, you know, you look forward to doing it. You know, you look forward to Sundays and Mondays and mondays and wednesdays and thursdays and so uh i can just only imagine but you guys make it all worthwhile you guys that make doing what we do and creating content as uh uh spin posse ocho you don't lie how old are you again you 46 or 56
Starting point is 01:00:46 56 man that's unbelievable hey I finally get a break what damn been a long day Ocho I mean I had a flight
Starting point is 01:01:03 at 4 a.m. flew to Indiana from Indiana to Atlanta laying nightcap so it's been a long day yeah so it's been a long day for me but you know what I'm gonna go upstairs try to get me a good night's sleep
Starting point is 01:01:20 got this taping club Shay Shay tomorrow who we got who we got who we got but it's going to be a banger it's going to be a banger y'all going to be surprised with this I got one coming
Starting point is 01:01:33 I got one coming real soon y'all going to like it y'all going to like it man I'll be all about it tell me I'll tell you I'll tell you I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you. I'll tell you, I'll tell you.
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Starting point is 01:03:19 Cousins and free agency. And to hear Cousins agents say he was shocked as well as everybody else tonight. But thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number 85. Rock runner extraordinaire, being a ring of fame honoree, pro bowler, all pro. Hey,
Starting point is 01:03:38 from Liberty City via Oregon State down to Cincinnati, he's Chad Ochocinco Rosado hyphen Johnson. See you Sunday. We're out. Oh, we got Saturday? Hold on. Ocho, we got Saturday?
Starting point is 01:03:54 We do? I ain't gonna be here Saturday. Where you gonna be? I got a soccer game. You playing? Yeah. I play with the Jamaican team. we call top notch now i'm gonna be i'm gonna be our game is at five o'clock oh oh we you you for real oh we do got saturday for real huh ash get out mayor
Starting point is 01:04:19 she's yelling about she't yelling about it. She ain't yelling about it. Hey, wait. What's Saturday? Basketball. What are we going to talk about? Oh, okay, okay, okay. Basketball. All right, guys. I'm sorry.
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