Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Iverson takes the high road, Marbury's HOF case, Ariana Grande's divorce
Episode Date: March 21, 2024Shannon Sharpe & Gilbert Arenas discuss Allen Iverson's response to Brian Windhorst's comments, debate whether or not Stephon Marbury should be in the Basketball Hall of Fame and much much more! 0...:00 Brian Windhorst says Iverson wouldn’t be as good in this era3:00 Isiah Thomas says Stephon Marbury should be in the Hall of Fame -12:00 Ariana Grande to pay ex husband $1.25M in divorce17:40 Q and Ayyyyy24:45 Gil tells story about Saucy Santana28:00 Favorite March Madness teams/moments41:00 Unc talks about eating raccoon, quail, gator and other strange foods #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ellen Iverson responds to Brian Windhorst saying he wouldn't be as good in today's NBA.
Wendy said AI wouldn't be able to average 43 points in today's NBA.
And the NBA world came to the defense. Carmelo Anthony says, he tweeted,
they will always find a way to discredit.
Stay me seven zero.
Rob Strickland,
please understand the difference between basketball knowledge and
entertainment.
Why are people giving so much time to non-basketball people?
AI would be AI in any era.
Would he take as many shots?
Maybe,
maybe not,
but we also have to
look at his skill set and obviously
what kind of impact he would have
in today's game. Rip Hamilton said
this has to be a joke. Please stop
the buffoonery. AI would have been AI
and got that in any
GD era.
Hold that. AI said
that's his opinion. I mean, I'm not mad
at the man.
That's what he thinks of.
That's the way he, that's the way you think.
I'm not mad at him.
God bless him.
There's no way I'm going to bash him or be mad or criticize him for the way he thinks.
Like, you can't be mad at somebody because they don't agree with you.
It is what it is.
Do you like AI taking the high road?
Yeah. I mean, you know, at the end of the day, what's the point of arguing over what ifs and theory, right?
And that's true.
This whole debate has nothing to do with actual facts, right?
We're sitting here going and we're talking about facts and this and that.
But it's no fact because we can't prove it.
We can't prove it. So we're arguing just to argue for the most part.
Great players find a way to be great no matter what the era is, they're going to adapt.
You know, especially if you are one of those really gifted type of players, which Allen Iverson was.
those really gifted type of players which alan iverson was right so um the game the game is different the game is more open for him to get through it there's no there's no big bodies in
there that would be hitting on him the whole time and he gotta you know what i mean so he's gonna be
at the rim a lot uh a lot i mean so you know of course of course he's going to say I win
the average just you know just to keep you know
the argument you know from
going wherever it's going to go right
what he has is
the players who played with them
defended
that's all he cares about
the guys who played against me
they had to guard me they knew what type of problem I was.
If they say I'm averaging 40,
then I don't need to argue with you.
Right.
True.
That's true.
So true. Isaiah Thomas
believed that Nets legend
Stephon Marbury should be in the Hall of Fame.
Zeke said, let me say this about Stephon Marbury,
right? I'm speaking as a Hall of Famer. Stephon Marbury should be in the Hall of Fame. Zeke said, let me say this about Stefan Marbury, right? I'm speaking as a Hall of Famer.
Stefan Marbury should be in the Hall of Fame.
He's impacted basketball in the United States of America,
but then he goes over to China,
and he's impacted the basketball in China.
As a superstar in Chinese Basketball Association,
he secured three championships, finals MVP,
three-time All-Star selection,
while becoming an instant celebrity and a major influence
in the country's basketball scene.
Should Stephon Marbury
be a Hall of Famer?
Yes.
You know, quick, quick, quick
answer is yes. I don't know why he's
not in it by now.
You know, Hall of Fame
is, it's what you... They take it by now. You know, Hall of Fame is what you...
They're taking it for college,
NBA, if you played in the Olympics,
if you played... They take all that
into account, right? I don't know why.
Right?
I don't know. Because they don't do it for it.
In football and baseball, they don't say,
well, Sheldon, you know what? You had some outstanding numbers
in college, so we're going to bring those numbers into the NFL.
They're like, no, what did you do in the NFL?
Yeah, what did you do in the NFL?
So, you know, what he did in the NBA is Hall of Fame type of numbers.
He didn't have team success,
but I didn't know the Hall of Fame was about team success.
I thought it was about…
Well, how many All-Star games did he go to?
Right? How many All-Star games did he go to? Right?
How many All-NBA teams did he make?
Come on, Gil. Y'all putting people in the
Hall of Fame for that? Well, hold on.
Hold on. You got to think about
the...
what coach he was on and who was behind.
Who was behind?
I mean, you're talking about a guy who's averaging, you know, 20 and 9, 20 and 8.
He was called the ball hog, averaging 8 assists, 8 and 9 assists a game.
He was considered a ball hog with 8.9, 8 assists, 9 assists, right, for his career.
He was considered a ball hog.
19-7.
Played 11, 12, 14 years.
Like, I'm...
Hold on, he played 14 years in the NBA?
5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, yeah.
And what was his averages?
His averages, 19-7.
19-7. 19-7.
I don't know.
I don't know if he can put somebody to heart.
16,000 points.
Hold on.
Let me see somebody because i'm
hold on with those with two all-star the two all-star two all nba do you think you should go
in the uh the uh the pro basketball hall of fame you know they got people who got 5 000 points 5
000 rebounds in the top 75 and we just want to throw that out there
rebounds in the top 75 and we just want to throw that out there.
I'm talking about, okay,
the guy played in the 60s.
I mean, the
Leafs scored the NBA average 12 points
a game.
We can't look at the numbers as
the numbers, but I mean...
No, no.
You can't judge him based on that era.
Put him in the era in which he played.
Based on the era in which he played.
Girl, I mean, that's a stretch, man.
Damn, and I'm flexible.
I mean, 16,000 points.
I mean, 16,000 points.
Two All-Stars, two All-NBAs.
Right?
I can see why it's going to take a little bit longer.
But you got to remember, what are the players saying?
longer but but you got to remember what are the players saying see this game is this game is it's not we're viewing it from the outside of guys who never
had the guard have never played it never schemed against them right right yeah there's a guy there
there might have been a guy that shut me down in a game that only had two or three catchers.
I don't think we should put his ass in a pro football hall of fame.
No, no, no.
But there's got like T.O., right?
Was he first ballot?
No.
No, was he supposed to be?
Yes.
Right?
Yes.
So 100% of every football player
agree he's first ballot.
The writers
says otherwise.
Put it up.
We're going to put it up.
The writers say otherwise, right?
You see how there's just this big gap
between the people who played against
him, the people who watched him during his preparation.
They have two different agendas.
So for the most part, you're not going to find many players
that say he shouldn't be one.
Right?
I mean, you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, his stats and his accolades, the all-stars,
most of it was popularity.
For the most part, you wouldn't say he wasn't a Hall of Fame guard.
Like, I can't, like, even without looking at him,
when you said him, like, yeah, he's Hall of Fame.
I, I, I, yeah, I mean, you know,
when it comes to talent, there's some weaker,
listen, this is how I look at it.
He was, he was a main guy
for most of his career.
There's glorified option threes
and option twos in the Hall
of Fame. Never had responsibility
as a number one player
and they are Hall of Famers.
Could I ask you a question?
Do you believe Stephon Marbury in the history
of the game, in the seven year history
is a top 10 point guard?
Of all the point guards, is he top 10?
In what?
As a point guard.
Overall, ever?
No, no, no, not ever.
Top 15.
Okay, we're going to move on.
We already had answers.
Thank you. I appreciate that you i appreciate that i appreciate i
appreciate that gil thanks thanks for clarifying that for me your daughter's
there's guys who's top 25 in the all hall of fame you know
we go we go we gonna put this we uh we put it up we're gonna find out
your daughter's haslam clarifies his comment about Chris Bosch being the most important player of the Big Heat.
Instead of walking back his comments, he doubled down and then explained why the fans didn't really understand what he was trying to say.
LeBron was the best player on the team, the best player on the planet.
The most important on our team was Chris Bosch because of the matchups he created.
A lot of times when Bron and D-Wade needed to get into the paint, they were attacking the paint.
Now when you have a guy like Chris Bosh just face the floor,
he gets five men away from the basket.
It just allows Bron and Wade to be the very best version.
That makes sense.
Yes.
I don't think people sometimes understand how to separate important
for the whole team and
the best player ever.
There is,
it's,
there is a difference.
If you take bot,
what does it,
if you take Bosch off the court and you put a traditional power forward or
whatever,
there will make it harder for Dwayne Wade and LeBron James,
the lane and be who they're going to be.
Right.
So if someone said Kevin Love was very, very important to those Cavs championships, we will understand.
Yeah, because he can shoot the ball.
He can post up.
He can keep the spread for Kyrie and LeBron and get inside that lane.
That's what he's saying.
He's not saying he was better than LeBron.
There's not even close.
But for everybody else to eat besides LeBron James, we needed him
because he spread the floor open for us to get in there,
for me to post up, for me to do all these other things.
Right?
It's a team thing.
Yes.
Yeah, I understand.
Bosh was a guy that could shoot the three.
Obviously, he had to guard the five.
He had to deal with Roy Hibbert, but what he
was able to do, that if Roy didn't bring his
seven-foot ass out of that paint,
Chris Bosh was going to
make the mid-range shot, and he
could hit the three.
You needed Bosh because Danny Green about to get that shot off.
Not a whole lot of guys could have got to that shot like CB did.
So I just wish those blood cards, man.
I would have loved to see what his career could have actually been
had it not been cut short.
We always like that that's the only thing i wish
for for for athletes man that everyone gets to to to live out their career so we can see who was
really the best ever but for the most part that's not how how, you know, life works and, you know, the fortunate ones that are meant to be at the top
are there.
Right.
Ariana Grande had to pay her ex-husband
$1.250,
so $1.25
in a divorce settlement.
Ariana Grande will make one-time payment
of $1.25 million
to her ex-husband, Dalton Gomez,
under the divorce agreement.
Damn, Gil, been a minister.
I mean...
I'm in the wrong business of women.
Oh, my God.
The city boy.
Oh, the city boy.
$5,000.
We up $5,000.
I can't sit here.
I'm sorry for you.
I'm wishing I had one like that.
You know... I often... you know what, Gil, I often think,
and I've had this conversation with myself,
had I ever been, if I had gotten married to someone
that was better off than I was,
would I get alimony or would I?
I don't know.
I don't know if I could do it.
Yep.
Yes.
I don't think I could get...
I don't think I could do it, Gil.
Gil, I couldn't.
Right now, if I marry Oprah right now,
she sneezed wrong, we're going to court.
Come on, Gil.
Stole it out, man. Never had that money.
I'm
out of here.
I'm hoping woman empowerment
hits her.
I hope it hits her during
our argument. I hope she do.
You won't bring nothing to the table.
I hope
she do that so I can be in court telling that cheddar.
I could do it.
I don't think I could do it.
My pride wouldn't let me take it.
Hey, look, whatever.
My pride had me marrying that type of woman, okay?
Hey, sometimes you're married of woman. Sometimes you're married
for looks. Sometimes you're married for money.
In that case, it was for money.
Yeah.
Hey,
it's just as easy to marry a rich
person than it is a poor one.
If I was you, if I'm going to get married,
I'm going to get the one with some braids.
1.3 milli.
That's a nice little lick.
He didn't even do it right.
He's supposed to have a kid, too.
Ah, come on, Gil.
Yeah.
You got to play that game right back.
I mean, look, she's an entertainer.
She ain't trying to get locked down like that because she know that's going to put up.
You got a Britney Spears-er.
You got a Britney Spears-er. got a britney spears or you got the kevin federer
oh man listen dog yeah man let that woman be man i love to see it like i hate that like someone
gets taken for the money right when it comes to love But because it's done to the men all the time,
when it went all the way,
it's a losing
proposition for us. I know
Ariana feels like all the men out there
now. Yeah.
That's it.
You feel just like one of us.
Yeah, man.
Hey, how you doing
miss Grande
I think she dated somebody already
Gil you might be a little late
you might be a little late Gil
I can only imagine
like when you
dating someone who has a lot of money
and
yeah you living a good lifestyle
but if you if you leave you get millions you get to touch yourself versus being in the house
asking for shit getting shit here and there like i'm sorry i don't know I don't know if I I don't know how many arguments
I can have how many times she can big board
me how many how many umbrellas
I can carry around
you know
yeah I mean first of all I think it takes
it takes a
special type of a man to be with
someone
unless you're like there
right there with her but to know that okay she's the
main she's the breadwinner probably tough because a man yeah because i think men by nature like we
want to be leaders we want to be that the man of the house the head of the house uh i don't know
how it was but that's why we were brought up in my home. You know, you be the head of the house. You protect the house.
You protect the family.
You make sure everything is secure at home.
Now, for the roles are reversed.
Now, you home taking care of the kids if they are kids.
You, you know, running the errands.
You in the carpool lane.
You picking up dry cleaners.
I don't know.
If I want to be, if I need to be a leader that way, listen, I'm dating Oprah.
I'm getting all this money being here, being a housewife.
I can lead my squad on Call of Duty if I need that type of manship.
All right.
I got when I'm on that video game, I can be the man and the leader of the team at that point.
Other than that, I'm not messing up this good thing trying to prove no point.
Hey, a broke leader
has no power.
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Gil, it's time for our last segment of the day.
It's called Q&A.
DBZ said, Shannon doesn't like people gossiping about him,
but he has no problem throwing dirt on others,
people to protect Vanessa
Bryant.
Did I miss something?
Her Wi-Fi
was messed up, so
she probably got
missing some of the conversation.
Okay, Shannon doesn't like people
gossiping about him,
but he has no problem throwing dirt on others.
People like to protect Vanessa Bryant.
Is that what you meant to say?
Probably.
Okay.
His parents.
How am I throwing?
Look, all I'm saying, I'm like, well, first of all, I didn't.
It's not a protect because I don't know enough about Vanessa to try to protect her.
All I'm saying is I still think it's wrong that they're selling his ish.
That's his. OK, fine. I get it.
You're struggling. But let me ask you a question.
What would you have done
if your son wasn't Kobe Bryant?
If your son
wasn't Kobe Bryant, you wouldn't be having a ring
to sell anyway for $90,000.
But
would you have sold his
memorabilia? It wouldn't be worth nothing to sell.
So my thing
is, Gil, you know, like I said,
a lot of times people like
uh i know they're like hey no i'm good with this house that i got
let's just make some modifications to it we good we good right here son
i just look i i don't i don't i don't agree with selling this stuff i i ain't bashing them
i just don't like the fact that they're selling their sons. How's that gossip? It's in the paper
that they're selling his ring.
What's in the paper?
Y'all, listen.
If my daddy right now
decided to sell my jerseys online,
I'm going to tell him,
boy, you're going to lose money
because you're going to have to ship it.
You're going to have to ship it.
You're going to have to ship that.
You know what I mean?
A hundred dollars for the jersey.
You done spent $200 to ship it there.
Goddamn it, you done lost.
Bad investment, brother.
Yeah, I mean, obviously the stuff that me and my brother have now,
they probably be worth a little something because, you know,
I'm in the Hall of Fame and got a little celebrity right now.
But that stuff, I mean, well, my girlfriend,
one of my girlfriends had some trophies,
but I think the house accidentally caught fire.
They got burned up in that.
So I don't think anybody has anything that outside of, you know, stuff that I signed.
Like my homeboys, like guys I played with.
Like Burns and Buckets probably got the most stuff because they actually have game worn jerseys that I actually wore in the game that I autographed for them. Or shoes I mean some of my teammates got shoes and I think one of my
teammates ended up selling the shoes it is what it is
but not
my not family though not family
if Burns or Bucket
were to sell something that I gave them
I'll be pissed I'll be hurt
like I think
I just want to know before
they decided to send it to auction
did they reach out to Vanessa?
They ain't got Vanessa, no.
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
If you're reaching out and saying, hey, we're down on our luck right now, and we don't want to sell this stuff.
We'd rather it go to the kids, right?
This is their father's stuff.
Yeah, I'll buy it back.
Can you at least buy it?
I would buy it knowing her
hell nah get off
yeah
I would definitely
buy it back
because it belongs
to my husband
it don't belong in anybody
else's hand
if it wasn't an autograph or he didn't
personally give it because now it's
coming to a third party, I would buy
it back and probably
I'm sure one day they'll probably have a museum
probably with the Lakers
with all his stuff in there
because when
I'm done, a lot of my stuff is going to go to Savannah
State. Like my Hall of Fame bus
and the gold jacket, it's not going to my kids.
It's going to go to Savannah State. I my Hall of Fame bus and the gold jacket, it's not going to my kids. It's going to go to Savannah State.
I think that's
I think they would do a better
Now, can they put
it on display? I don't know.
Probably worried about somebody taking it,
stealing it.
But, nah.
I just...
DBZ, I don't really think I'm gossiping.
I ain't trying to protect nobody.
Cause I got no dog in a fight.
We're having,
you know,
every,
you know,
sometimes we're having a conversation.
I mean,
Vanessa didn't say anything.
I'm not taking her side.
I'm not interviewing the parents.
I'm not taking their side.
Gil and I having a conversation.
Gil said he understands the parent.
I just don't,
I can't get down with them selling, selling Kobe stuff. I don't, if that's gossiping, I'm a conversation. Gil said he understands the parent. I just don't, I can't get down with them
selling Kobe's stuff.
I don't,
if that's gossiping,
I'm gossiping.
Angelina Marie said
it's not gossiping,
it's commentary
about a widely known
public family breakdown.
You know what, Gil?
I mean,
and you're going to find this out.
As your podcast start to grow
and more and more people, you start getting more
and more views and people start talking about
it's going to be people that you're like, well, damn, I thought
I was cool. I ain't say we hung over each other's house.
But that's what I started
to see. That's what I'm starting to see.
And, you know, people started to take
little pot shots here and there. But
they ain't mad yet.
They ain't mad yet.
But you're going to be mad.
Oh, I got some stuff coming. You're going to be mad.
Oh, boy, are you
going to be mad.
No, no, no. Animals get mad.
Humans get up.
Animals get mad.
Humans get upset. They're about
to be really upset.
If you're the president, just...
I'm the president of what?
really upset. If you're the president, just Gosh, you're president of what?
White House clearance, huh?
No, no, no, no, no.
I want no part of that.
All those had it, gun situation, knocked it out.
Like, damn it, almost got
the Obama.
Libra Vibe said his parents were
selling ish while he was
alive, so don't make this about Vanessa.
They were. They were getting up off that stuff.
That's funny.
A.E. Seguir,
can you offer some clarification
about Saucer Santana comment?
You know what's funny? No one
has a sense of humor.
So what, okay,
what did, I don't even know how to start
so fill me in, fill us in, fill
my, I don't know how much of my
audience know about what's going
on. So how did, what happened
and how did it get started? Okay, so
Nick Young came on my podcast,
right?
You know,
he said he just finished college heel.
So I was like,
Oh,
college heel,
who was on?
And he was like,
he said,
black China.
And he was like,
yeah, you know,
I,
every man wanted to be with black China.
So I'm like,
Oh,
you got with black China.
He was like,
nah.
Right.
And then he was like,
Oh,
also there was a sausage Santana.
I was like,
who was that?
And then he was like, Oh yeah, you know, cool dude. Boom, boom, boom. I was like, saucy santana i was like who was that and then he was like uh oh yeah you know
cool dude boom boom boom i was like saucy santana so i'm getting ready to look at it he's like no
no no don't don't look don't look it up because i know you're gonna start making jokes right
hit the video uh it's a dude with nails in the beard. Right.
Right?
So I'm watching the twerk and I'm like, nah, dog, this you.
I know you paid for this.
Right?
Joking with him.
I called Saucy in that, right?
You know?
And then he got upset.
He commented back.
And then I came in, Nick, went and did our own thing again on Sunday.
And I said, when the lights is off with the BBL he has,
you can't tell the difference between him and Megan Astaire.
Oh, Lord have mercy.
I couldn't help myself.
Nick tried to save you.
Listen, listen, listen.
Usually, usually I'm supposed to get canceled,
but the fact that they think I was really serious
and they're not canceling me, I'll take it.
What?
I'll take it.
You know, they canceled me. I'll take it. You know,
they canceled me. I wouldn't have been here Wednesday.
Nah, I'm good.
You know,
listen, I'm sorry, but
I came from...
You know, hey,
ain't he the guy that wanted to, he said he was
going to pull up on DJ Academics.
I didn't know who the person was.
But I just know,
just for me and my comedy experience in life,
a beard,
a BBL,
nails,
nails and men parts,
I don't know how you don't laugh.
So I couldn't help myself.
So I'm sorry.
I couldn't. Man, so I'm sorry. I couldn't.
Man, Gil, man, you know guys,
they double F, man. They don't play, man.
You know, we had them jokes, man.
Listen, like somebody
was like, well, as a straight
man, you can't say that. Why? I'm
straight. I can say whatever I want if I'm straight.
I don't give a shit.
What I care for, like 99% of me is comedy, so I want if I'm straight. I don't give a shit. What I care for,
like 99% of me is
comedy, so I look at everything comedy.
Like, I can't help it if you got to say pause
between every other word
that sounds remotely
gay in your mind.
That's your problem, not mine.
I don't have it.
Samuel Griffith.
All right, we're going to move on from Saucer Santana.
We don't want him to pull up on you.
Samuel Griffin said, Nightcap is the best.
Do you guys have an all-time favorite March Madness team?
I'll always love the St. Joe's team with Delonte West and Jameer Nelson.
I fell in love with Carolina, North Carolina,
actually the year before Michael Jordan hit the shot in 81.
Because the year before,
they had lost the national championship to Indiana in 81.
That was Isaiah Thomas' team.
Randy Whitman, Rolando Turner,
who ended up with a tragic car accident
and ended up becoming paralyzed.
That was also, if I'm not mistaken,
that same day day there was an
assassination on president ronald reagan's life i think john hinkley shot president reagan if i'm
not mistaken that was 1981 um and so that's when i fell in love with north carolina but so i've
been a i've been a a blue devil fan since then. So I don't know.
I mean, there have been some crushing moments.
I remember in 83 when Houston and Wittenberg,
Wittenberg, yeah, Derek Wittenberg shot that shot and Lorenzo Charles dunked it in.
And then you go fast forward all these years,
Villanova hit that shot at the buzzer to beat North Carolina.
So I don't know if I really have a favorite margin manager's team.
I just root for Carolina.
Yeah, mine, the first glimpse of the tournament
was when Chris Webber and the Fab Five.
You know, the way that swag that they had,
all the kids used to talk about it in school so you know that was the
first glimpse of
of
college basketball
but I didn't really
like understand what a tournament was until
I was in it
and you know so what's it like
you can explain it to us there because you've been there
I've never we were so locked in uh we was we was really locked in we knew we was we we knew we was
one or two of the best teams in the in in the country right we we were number one fighting
with cincinnati we got hurt the year before. I remember in tournament time, we made
a pledge to each other that we can't have
sex until the
tournament's over with.
Who did that? Who said that? One of our
teammates.
We asked, can we get some head?
Can we jack off? You know what I mean? But for the most part,
no.
Y'all going too far with that.
We was partiers.
We partied.
This is what we want to do. We want to win a championship.
We all, for the
most part, stuck to those guns.
It was a
blast.
For the most part, it was pretty easy.
We beat Michigan State by
20 in the Final Four.
I ended up getting hurt in the Final Four,
soft tissue tear in my chest on the shooting side,
so that kind of limited me from shooting.
But it was an experience.
It was really an experience.
I mean, after each round, going back home, being celebrated,
everyone who's ever played college ball
can really experience, you know, the NCAA,
that's an experience that, you know, as a basketball player,
you need to really be a part of.
Because it's one game.
You have to be on.
You have to be on.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, You go home, yeah.
And I think that's what,
that's probably the second biggest
bad event
other than the Super Bowl
is probably March Madness.
I would think.
Probably, yeah.
Excuse me.
Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy says,
Hey, Uncle Gil,
Dawn Staley is an amazing coach.
Do you think she can coach
an NBA team?
If yes,
what do you think could use her?
Who do you think could use her expertise?
Do you think we'll ever see a woman coaching the NBA team?
No.
No.
Why not?
Do you know the names we call the man coaches?
Yeah. Yeah. You you always have you definitely have
the bite to tell
and she got away
she got away 15-20 minutes for y'all
for the guys to get dressed
think about players who don't
want to be subbed out of the game and stuff like that
like most of
coaches in the NBA, besides
Poppin,
I don't know, Rick
Carlisle, maybe,
that has enough
power
to not be
pushed out by the star player.
If the star player don't like you,
the rest don't like you.
We talk to these coaches
grind. Because
you can't do nothing. We make more than you.
Shut up.
When you see players get out
and he's sitting there arguing with the coach,
what happens if that's a female?
That looks bad for TV
itself.
It's not about the ability of a coach. That is not for TV itself. Yeah. It's not about the ability of coaching.
That is not the bearing here.
It's the nature.
It's the nature of who these people are and what happens in the heat of the moment.
Let's take somebody like Draymond Green.
How he talks to the other players.
How he talks to Steph,
occurs sometimes.
Do you, Kirk?
One minute,
one slap that hand or say something
is blown out of proportion.
So just logistically,
you know,
for the eye,
the eye test
is not going to happen.
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Kemper uh Kemper know what junior said oh my question is do you see the 76ers winning a title
with the team that they currently have within the next two to three seasons. Yeah, and 2K, so that'll be 2K28.
27.
Yeah, they'll win one.
You do my player, you pick the 76ers,
you go all the way through the season to win one.
Yeah, that's the only way 76ers are going to win a championship.
They're not winning one in the actual NBA in real life.
No, no.
Joel Embiid is unstoppable.
I love Tyrese Maxey.
But Joel Embiid is hurt every other season.
He's missing a significant amount of time.
And now guess what, Gil?
He's getting older.
Tell me the person that gets healthier as they age.
You know what Joel Emb and b's problem is um
it's probably the same problem shaq had they're so naturally gifted than everybody else that they don't need to do the little things to prepare them for the game right like
Right. Like Joel, the body, his body is the most important thing to him.
You eating five McDonald's hamburgers before the game, you have wings stopping, you doing this pregame and after game.
That's not the type of is never going to be that temple that he needs to carry him over 20 years.
He eats like he's a guard and he eats like he doesn't have this weight problem.
Same thing with somebody like Zion.
Certain type of people, your body is what's going to keep you from greatness,
not your skill, right? Your body itself is what's going to take you to the next level,
right? The skill, you're above everyone. You have to really dive into stretching,
making sure your weight, making sure, you know, you're eating right, you're sleeping right, that's going to be Joel Embiid's
next jump.
When he does that, that's when
Philly's going to have a chance. As long as he's doing
what he's doing, no, because his body
is going to break down.
Yeah, that's the thing, is
that when you look at it, Gil,
is that
as we age,
we gain weight naturally.
And as we get older,
it gets harder and harder
to maintain a level of fitness.
So you have to work out harder,
eat better,
or you have to do both.
He's a big man.
It's already hard for big.
I mean,
if you look at the big guys that play long,
they were thin.
Look at Kareem.
You're right.
Look at Robert Parrish.
Look at Kevin Willis.
Look at Dirk Nowitzki.
They weren't shy.
They're not going to be Joel and Bean.
And it's unfortunately that maybe
the thing about what Zion
has on his side is that he's like
20 I think Zion's what 23
24 and he's like
okay you know what yeah he's like you know what
I can turn this thing around
should have did it earlier but I
got it now
because he realizes that
bro I can't eat like Alvarado I can't eat like Alvarado.
I can't eat like B.I.
B.I. can eat 10 Big Macs.
It's going to be 174 pounds.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I was on guys.
I mean, I had teammates.
Guys, I mean, you watch the way he eat.
And dude still had, he was like 255, 6% body fat.
And that is a real thing, man.
Like, you know, in the locker room, like, some people can eat that stuff.
Some people can't.
Nah.
If you're 300 pounds, you can't eat anything you want.
I don't give a damn. I don't give a damn especially basketball
because that's a big man
they said after games you'll have bags
of burgers
eat that before the game
right
that's not the kind of fuel
that you need to be putting in that type of body right now
JT said what's up
uh and gail france says they plan to start victor women yama joel and b first of all joel and b is
playing for the usa but anyway okay and rudy gobert for the 20 2024 parents olympics would
they have what oh would they have one goal and the b didn't take the easy path to play but
bro why y'all want to joel and b spent play up. Bro, why y'all want to...
Joel and B spent two days in France.
Now y'all want him to be...
Everything the man got
basically, the wealth that
he accumulated, his wife, his kids.
America.
His game, his skill, his talent.
America.
You know what happens with...
This is what happens with International Olympic time
Even somebody like Shea and Murray
They were trained here
They are high schools
Ben Simmons
They're here
So they can play for the USA team
What happens is when they
Don't make those teams
They have the ability
To go to the country team
or where their parents is from
and still get that
USA experience.
Right? But why would
Joel Embiid go
to the Paris team or go to the
Moroccan team to get their ass
whooped when he's good enough to be
the starting center on a USA team?
But think about it.
Think about the names they just said.
You got Wimby, five.
Dronenby, five.
And Rudy Gobert, five.
Right?
You got three fives.
You're going to start all three fives, man.
I mean, yeah, you got a hell of a lineup in the back of you playing zone,
but come on.
You know what?
That is a basketball lineup.
That's some shit I'll try.
All right.
All right.
I'll put Wim at the guard and play a two-three zone.
Yeah, that's what I said.
I'll play a two-three zone.
I'll put Rudy and Rudy Gobert and Wimby at the guards.
Good luck getting the three off.
Now, you're probably going to get a ride.
And once you get a ride, you got a home free.
But Joel Embiid is in the back.
But Joel Embiid is playing for the U.S.
Stephanie Warfield said, Gil and Shannon,
I think it's commendable that you support each other's podcast.
Gil, do you plan to invite Shannon on one of your No Chill Gil episodes?
Maybe you can make
Grill raccoon.
Relax.
No Chill
on the Grill.
Oh, so you want
to start a new podcast.
No Chill on the Grill episode.
Listen, I thought you were talking about No Chill.
I was like, your brain can't go.
Your brain can't go.
Right. Hey, on the
grill, hey,
I might be him. And I started
Googling squirrel
alligator snake.
And guess what?
They got recipes for them. They be selling that for
real, huh? Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
And I'm sitting here like, I was like, trip it for real, huh? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sitting here
like, I'm tripping. No,
I seen dudes, they cooking
camel.
So, yeah, I'm a girl that
I gotta taste it. I gotta see what it is.
You gotta know
what you're doing. You don't know what you're doing,
Gil. No. Because first of all,
first of all, squirrel, you either
smother fire or you fry it. So either smother the fire or you fry it.
So you have gravy and rice
or you fry it. Raccoon, you
bake it.
Alligator, you fry it.
So you put
raccoon in aluminum foil,
put bell pepper, you put onions,
you put stuff like that in it, you
cut him up, and you put him in
a pan, aluminum foil, you put it in an oven, and you leave him in there for about, you a pan, aluminum foil you put it in an oven and you leave him in there
you know how we do it
put him on Srihant
put him on a grill, fire him up
cut him up, make him look like chicken
call it chicken
well they gonna know
it's too
it's red, they gonna know it's not chicken
it's too red to be chicken
red chicken, huh?
this red, they're going to know it's not chicken.
It's too red to be chicken.
Red chicken, huh?
It's true.
But, you know, you get some celery,
some bell pepper, some onions.
You cut that joke up, put it on three,
350, set it in that oven.
Yeah, but I'm going to get a box of wild. It's like wild boars.
I seen some quail in there.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I love quail.
Actually, I go to a
distance restaurant at the Golden Nugget
that every time I go, that's the only thing I get.
They know I pay. Mr. Sharp, would you like the quail tonight?
Yeah, let me get two of them.
It's already cooked or you just buying it?
No, no, no. They cook it. They cook it. I get the barbecue.
Barbecue quail. Okay.
Yeah.
Oh, it's Yeah, you No, no, no. They cook it. They cook it. I get the barbecue. Barbecue. Okay. Yeah.
Oh, it's, it's, uh,
yeah, you, I mean, like I said, you can't,
Gil, you don't know what you're doing. You need to have somebody prepared for you first. I don't know
you wouldn't find somebody you probably need to go. You ain't got no
relatives down south? Like in Georgia,
Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas?
Somebody
that know how to cook it.
Or like pig ears.
Oh, yeah, yeah pig ears oh yeah yeah yeah
but I mean you go to Papa Do's and get gator
who?
Papa Do's
where's that at?
that's in the south so they got them in Texas
Georgia they got one in Colorado
but they
like alligator
okay
but you gotta know what you're doing you need somebody you need somebody to cook it for you so you can They like alligator. Okay.
But you got to know what you're doing.
You need somebody to cook it for you so you can taste it because you're going to F it up.
I don't got messy chicken.
I burnt the steak.
Burnt the steak.
First day on the grill,
turned it into charcoal.
Oh, so you don't know
how to grill? No. No. Oh, so you don't know how to grill?
No.
Oh, no.
Hey, I can grill as good as
I can play basketball. I mean, football.
Stephon Marbury,
the final stat, Stephon Marbury, Hall of
Famer, 53% said no,
46% said yes.
That's close enough.
Yeah, it's definitely a lot closer than I yes. That's close enough. Yeah, it's
definitely a lot closer than I thought.
It's close enough, right?
Okay. He might be
one of those guys that
probably get in on
one of those weak
class,
which I don't understand this.
You're going to have to clarify a little bit
for me.
If you didn't make the Hall of Fame when you was first available,
how do those same stats get in 20 years later?
I ask the same question because when I came up, Gil, I said, look, if you don't like my stats this year,
you're not going to like them any better next year
because I can't add to it.
It's not like I had 815 and
10,000 and 60 blood of touchdowns I had.
It wasn't like all of a sudden the next year I was going to have
900 catches, 11,000 yards, and
70 touchdowns. The number's what they are.
I did what I did.
But, you know, for me, like I
said, I just wanted to get in
so my grandmother could know
that I got in.
Yeah, okay. So I just, yeah.
I'd be wondering, like, oh, yeah, you know, you finally got
in since 76. I was like,
if it wasn't good in
76, how they good now? Like, I done...
People like to tell me shit I don't know. I do know
about Papa Doe, bro.
If I don't know anything about it, how the hell you think I met you?
That was in a song, Papa Doe.
Is that a strip club?
No, it's a restaurant, a seafood restaurant.
Oh, it's like Papa Doe's don't some...
Somebody sung that in a song.
Now, yeah.
Papa Doe's don't make me know.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, but I mean, if you love seafood,
if you're ever in the South,
Papados,
I mean, you go to New Orleans,
you're going to get it there.
I mean, but they put some everything in there.
The thing that you're running with New Orleans,
because they like their food hot.
I mean, I'm talking about,
oh, that's good.
No, bro, I can't even swallow this.
Yeah, I don't like spicy food like that.
I don't either.
I don't even like my food.
I like my food warm.
I don't like my food hot.
I don't like to blow my food, all that stuff.
Hey, I'm going to sit and let that thing cool down a little bit
so I can just eat.
I ain't got time to do all that.
I got a short period of time.
I'm trying to get to the table, eat
and go about my business
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