Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Jets in Disarray, Caitlin Clark cheap shots
Episode Date: September 1, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to concerning reports about Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets, Caitlin Clark taking another cheap shot on Friday night and much much more!02:49 - Je...ts locker room10:00 - QBS who have the most to prove26:11 - Broncos QB30:15 - Mike Zimmerman32:40 - Eagles in a new ERA42:30 - Que and Ayyyyy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Oh, Cho, the New York Jets locker room might have a problem with Aaron Rodgers,
whether it's going on darkness retreat, going on trip to self-medication,
or taking controversial political rants,
Rodgers has shown to be more player
goal-minded than helping his
team win. Remember Ocho, when he played for the
Packers, he said that he enjoys winning
Super Bowl MVP, winning
league MVP, more than competing
for a Super Bowl. On the Jets'
TikTok post two weeks ago, where players
were asked, what is the most
overrated thing? Rodgers said
training camp. This attitude certainly
caught the attention of his teammates.
An agent for one of the players has raised
awareness of Rodgers' bad
mentality in the locker room with
Rodgers in the middle.
There's complete
disarray over there.
Look at how they've handled Aaron Rodgers.
Has one player had more power than him?
He skipped minicamp
and they have been able to convert
into a team player.
The vibe inside the building is terrible.
While other players are looking to buy in
and get the team to the postseason,
Rodgers has shown, once again,
he doesn't care.
I mean, God damn.
Hey, you know what? every team um whether whether you like it or not in chat i'm just telling you it's the way it is on all 32 teams there are certain players that
are treated differently than everybody else you don't treat them all the same we get it
you don't treat everybody the same now at times you know there are certain players that really don't take advantage of that situation and
having special treatment i think aaron rogers is one of those who takes advantage of that
special treatment because of who he is and the understanding that they do need him because
of what he has accomplished during this league, being a Super Bowl champion, for that matter,
and the situation that they're in dire need
of a quarterback.
I think he goes overboard a little bit
with taking advantage of the fact
that they need him so much.
But what are you going to do to me?
I miss training camp.
What are you going to do to me?
I miss mandatory minicamp.
My bad, mandatory minicamp.
Well, what are you going to do to me?
I had other obligations at that time. I think he's one that feels he doesn't need it Yeah, mandatory minicamp. My bad, mandatory minicamp. Well, what you gonna do to me?
I had other obligations at that time.
I think he's one that feels he doesn't need it because he's been playing so goddamn long.
But again, to me, team, leader, new team, new quarterback.
You missed the season last year.
I'm thinking about continuity, building chemistry
with your players, with your teammates,
and getting them to understand that you are the leader with you being a leader and the quarterback you have to
lead by example and leading by example is actually being there and showing up when it matters most
even though it is mandatory minicamp because what's going to happen in those games when it
matters most you're going to want those players around you showing up when it matters most listen aaron
rogers has been playing this game for a very long time he knows how to play it at a very very high
level and he's damn good at it he's damn good at it so the leash for him i think is a little bit
longer than most a lot longer a little bit longer than most because you ain't getting quarterbacks
like that just falling off the goddamn tree.
I've always felt that Aaron Rodgers felt he was beyond reproach.
Aaron Rodgers felt because he's so accomplished slow,
unless you were Tom Brady as coach,
or if you were going to be Peyton Manning,
you couldn't talk to him.
And he had this holier-than-thou attitude.
And what happens if you feel that way in the beginning when you've accomplished nothing,
and then you start to accomplish everything?
How are you going to be, old Joe?
If I gave you my ass to kiss,
and I ain't got a pot to pee in,
or a window to open it up and throw it out of,
let me get some money.
Let me get some power.
I'll show you my character
I'll show you who I am
that's all he's doing
Aaron Rodgers has not changed
this is who Aaron Rodgers has always been
y'all think money changed him
y'all think MVP changed him
no this is who you are
you are who you are at your core
a person that's benevolent
magnanimous, philanthropic
they didn't just get that way
when they had got money.
That's always in them.
They've always been that way.
Who you are,
it ain't on you.
It's in you.
Yeah.
And all money does is magnify.
Amplify.
Your true cult.
Amplify.
That's it.
That's what it does.
It makes you more of what you already are.
If you a jerk before you got money, you become an asshole once you get it.
Listen, before I had money, I was cheap.
When I got money, I became a cheap bitch.
When I got a little bit more money, I became a cheap motherfucker.
But long as that cheap word
come first,
that's all that matter.
It don't matter how much I get.
I'm going to stay the same
and I'm not changing.
I've always been benevolent.
I've always given.
I got something.
Yeah.
Me and my brother
was always like that.
He got $10.
He got $10.
He'd go work.
He'd come home.
He might make $10. He'd give me $250. He got $10. He go work. He come home. He might make $10.
He give me $250. He give me
something. I got money.
He got money. My sister
got money. I've always been that
way. I've always been that way.
I've always been generous with my friends.
That's just who I am.
Everybody
ain't like that.
If you notice,
a lot of times when I gave speeches that I was addressing team
or my former teammates, I always end with this.
I hope you enjoy playing with me as much as I enjoy playing with you.
I always ended with that because I had a ball.
I tried to be the best teammate I possibly could.
Did I push people?
Absolutely, because I was there to win. I wasn't
there to be your friend. I was there to win. Now,
we became friendly or we became friends.
As a byproduct of that,
I welcomed that with open arms.
But Shannon Sharp went to Savannah State
to win. He went to Denver to win.
He went to Baltimore to win. And in the process,
I made some great friends, lifelong
friends.
But all I cared about was winning
that was it that's what I was there for
and but look
he is who he is
he's as good a bro
of the football that we've ever had in the NFL
there's no question about his talent
we're not debating that
that's not what the
debate is.
But I just
believe that there
are things that he's done
that's not conducive. There's
no way you have that kind of talent.
And you've only been to one Super Bowl?
With the teams that you've
had around you?
What?
That's not an accident, Ojo.
Yeah.
I hope he has a good season.
Because one thing, everything going on,
you know, the retreats, the missing camps,
and the things that he says, you know,
politically that rub people the wrong way,
one thing can erase and cure all that.
Winning.
That's winning.
Ocho, CBS Sports ranked the top 10 quarterback with the most approved
entering the season.
Number 10, Tua.
Number nine, Trevor Lawrence.
Number eight, Daniel Jones.
Number seven, Sam Darnold.
Number six, Will Levis.
Number five, Anthony Richardson.
Number four, Bryce Young. Number three, Russell Wilson. Number six, Will Levis. Number five, Anthony Richardson. Number four, Bryce Young.
Number three, Russell Wilson.
Number two, Aaron Rodgers.
Drum roll.
Number one,
Deshaun Watson.
Okay. You know what?
I like the list.
I don't like the numerical
order of the list.
Where you rearranged?
Now, number one, Deshaun is okay.
Now, I'm going to agree with that simply because of the contract situation
and the amount of money that he was paid.
And I'm sure he's going to get back to Deshaun.
We're used to seeing, um,
this is definitely a proven year for him.
Won't you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is a proven year for him.
I think Aaron Rogers at number two is,
is,
is good.
It's rich,
really good.
Especially him for after,
after coming off an injury season,
him at number two is good.
Um, in the, I think Russell, for him after coming off an injury season. Him at number two is good.
I think Russell
at three is good.
I want to put the three veterans
first as opposed to all
the young bulls that we
have left.
Sam Darnold.
Obviously, I don't think Sam Darnold.
I get it. He's in Minnesota.
I was going to say he had nothing to prove.
J.J. McCarthy is going to be the starter for the Minnesota Vikings.
No, J.J. is out for the season.
That's why they got Sam Darnold.
I know.
That's why I said.
I'm saying moving forward.
That's why he really had nothing to prove.
But again, this would be good tape for Sam Darnold to put up in case he gets picked up somewhere else.
Now, you've already had three stops. Maybe you
can do something with a fresh start
at a new place and put film
out that says, you know what, maybe he's
gotten better
because he has another
full season under his belt. Again,
you got Justin Jefferson at the
helm, too. This is his fourth stop,
Ocho. He was at the Jets, he's at Carolina
San Fran, now Minnesota
yeah
I would put Daniel Jones
I would put Daniel Jones four
yeah
definitely not Bryce Young
he should be way at the top
you got Bryce Young in front of Daniel Jones
yeah Daniel Jones
well damn Will Levis only played he only had one season You're talking about a Daniel Jones? Yeah, Daniel Jones.
Well, damn, Will Levis only played, he only had one season.
Yeah, I don't get to hear this, boy.
Anthony Richardson is coming off a, I don't like this list.
I don't like this list.
Now, the only thing that I can agree on is the first three,
Deshaun, Aaron, Russell. Yes.
For Russell Wilson, this is the make it or break it year.
This is the make it or
break it year for Russell Wilson.
My problem
is, Ocho, is that a lot of times
you look at the guys, look at the
contract Deshaun got, look at
what Russell was paid, and Daniel
Jones, they gave Daniel Jones
money and they ended up losing
Saquon because of it.
And he was he had he had basically eight game stretch.
And parlayed that into 40 million dollars a year.
Yeah. So he has it. So you.
So you got Daniel Jones as your number four. I put him in NFL quarterback.
Yeah. Now, Trevor put him in NFL quarterback to prove.
Now,
Trevor Lawrence and Tua,
excuse me, they just got these big contracts.
Yeah. So let's see. Obviously,
you have something to prove. You have to prove that
I'm deserving because I didn't
pay you for what you did. I'm paying you
for what I believe you can do moving forward.
You can do, yeah. So I would have them
at five and six.
Trevor Lawrence, Tua, five and six.
And then all the young boys.
They just got the lead up there.
Yeah.
Damn.
Yeah, so Deshaun, Aaron, Russell Wilson,
Trevor Lawrence, and Tua.
And then after that, I mean,
it's based on who you want to put up there.
I probably have
sam donnell with 10 uh since the browns guaranteed wastes 230 billion dollar country this is what
they got barely 12 games healthy and available 59 completion rate nearly as many turnovers 11
as touchdown throws 14 14. Yeah.
That's why he's number one on the list.
I saw him at the Super Bowl. He said he's healthy.
He said he looked good. I mean, he had surgery.
He said he looked good. I want him to do
well.
I think people, because
of what transpired off the field
in Houston, I think people forgot just
how great he was and the trajectory
that he was on.
And because
of what transpired, people
obviously, it's just natural. People are going to look at you
a different way. And he
hasn't, I mean, he got suspended
and he didn't play well. And then he
wasn't playing well. He got injured again.
And so this is
just make a break, Ocho.
I'm not saying make or break because the
contract's still guaranteed. I'm just saying
as far as how we
perceive him and what we expect
of him. Because at some
point in time, Ocho, we can't
keep saying, well, man, you know
he missed a year because he did.
Remember his last year in Houston, he didn't
play. The next year, he was suspended, what, in houston he didn't play the next year he
was suspended what 10 11 games so he only played five the following year after that on joe he got
hurt early got hurt got hurt so you know who else can go on that list too who i think this might
also be a make or break a season maybe maybe not ky not. Kyler Murray. I can see that.
I can see that.
Kyler Murray.
I just think the thing is, Ocho,
that contract and the way it was written,
I think it made people
look at him differently.
Because nobody,
we have never seen a contract
written like that.
That we ask a guy to do
away from,
away,
let that sink in, Ochoo we need you to study x amount away from the facility so we had never seen a contract written
like that right right right and i don't know girl how you think how you think these these insiders
work you thought that agent you thought that was going to be able to sneak by and nobody
with the adam shepard or the jay glazers or all these insiders wasn't gonna get up mike florio's
and all these guys they won't get a hold of that old show yeah a contract written like hey listen
it made me it made me mad it made me mad the fact that they even had to put that in there
for one because if he's a gamer, you have to think about this.
Kyler Murray didn't just start gaming.
He didn't just start gaming.
He's been good at his craft all his life.
Once you get to the NFL, you understand what it took to get there.
You understand the work and the time that it takes.
And it's needed to be able to compete at the highest level and be a good quarterback.
I think he understood that.
And the fact that they even had to put it in there because it's a hobby of his that he enjoys doing,
and it's off time.
There has to be some type of off time.
But to answer your question.
Something you do outside of the game of football.
Is it interfering with what you do, what we're paying you to do?
Clearly, they believed it was, Ocho, or they wouldn't
have put it in there. If your weight is an issue,
you ever had a weight clause in your contract?
Yeah, I did.
Exactly. I never had a weight clause
in my contract either. Why?
Because I was too big. I was 230
and they said I was too big. I had to come on down.
Think about it. They never
put a clause, okay, Shannon, if you do off-season
workouts, we're going to pay you half
a million dollars because they knew I liked the
workout. They're not going to put
things in your contract.
They don't necessarily.
So that tells me
something was going. You do realize,
Ocho, they can see how much
film you watch.
Yeah.
Yeah. They can tell
when you watch it, how much you watch, how long you watch. Yeah. Yeah. They can tell when you watch it,
how much you watch,
how long you watch for.
I think,
I think they caught on to that.
I didn't think,
I don't think the players
realized that at first.
Oh,
because you know,
you watch,
you watch it on the iPad
and they keep track of everything.
Yeah.
That's fucked up.
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He could have been one of those quarterbacks that be out partying,
turning up, having a good time, out on the weekends,
doing everything, doing everything else.
But hell, gaming, that's where they draw the line. We got to put some contract.
We can't have them gaming like this.
They're asking him to watch film away from the stadium.
Ocho, did you think about that, Ocho?
They don't game.
But what about, can you watch
film as much as you game?
How much you making?
How much they paying you?
Are you Ninja? Are you Booger?
Are you Casanat?
I'm just trying to figure out what's going on.
I mean, you asking us to pay you
$250 million.
Think about it. And you know what's funny?
You see how you just said that? See how they put that thing in Kyler Murray
contract about him gaming?
Now look at the landscape.
Look at the lay of the land.
Now you got players with podcasts
away from the stadium
now you got players like my dog Sauce
playing Call of Duty
Jamar Chase playing goddamn GTA
you know
these dudes are making big bucks
but still able to
be able to balance
when it's time to work
I'm ready to work and I get the job done.
But when I'm home...
Quarterback is different.
You know that.
Oh.
Okay, my bad.
Oh, Ocho, you know it's a whole different animal
playing that position.
Yeah, different ballgame.
You're right, you're right.
I mean, you can do...
But you know how that be.
Once you leave, you know how that be. Once you leave,
you know how that be.
You're already in there
7 in the morning.
Once you get 5 o'clock and you're
done for the day, you want
to clock out. And when you clock out,
you want to
clock out. You think Peyton Manning
clocked out? You think Tom Brady clocked
out? You think Patrick Mahomes clocked out?
Oh,
Mahomes be on the game too now.
I ain't say he don't
be on the game. I ain't say you couldn't be on the game.
Okay, okay. Yeah, I know what you mean though.
How much time is he on the game?
Okay, that's a good one.
See, when you left the huddle, you didn't
care if the line ripped the lids.
You didn't care if they duel or molly.
You don't care nothing about that.
Right.
That guy that ain't going to quarterback better know.
He better know if they're going to rip a lids or they're going to molly that.
Right.
He better know.
Okay, where am I hot at?
You outside the number.
You not hot.
That's the slot receiver responsibility.
Oh, that's the back responsibility.
There's so much on his plate.
So much.
Man, look here, bro.
Man, this money.
I didn't even think about, man, what you going to do when you,
man, I ain't thinking about retiring.
I'm thinking about this.
I'm trying to be the best football player I can be right now. But I ain't thinking about retiring i'm thinking about this i'm like i'm trying to be the best football player
i can be right now but i ain't thinking about that bro like i said i just have i had a different
mentality and uh i make no apologies hey you be who you are but bro i ain't gonna lie to you
it'll be hard for me to play in today's game. Because I'm not so ā
You think so?
I don't think guys are serious about winning.
Shit, boy, I'd be out here cutting a fool.
I ain't wasting my time.
My time is important, bro.
I put too much into it, Ocho.
All this foolishness and that dilly-dally.
Bro, I'm trying to win.
I want to win.
You would have been good, though. These guys don't want Ocho. The money has gotten, I'm trying to win. I want to win. These guys don't
want Elcho. The money has gotten so great, I
don't believe guys want to win.
I don't believe it's a burning desire
and passion because they let too much
bull jive go. You see your teammate
bull jive and you cool with
it. Hell no.
I was never cool with it.
Especially if you got
look, if you're one of these guys that ain Especially if you got, look,
if you one of these guys that ain't going to play,
hey, but guys, if you playing,
if I'm counting on you,
and you horse jiving around.
Yeah.
All I'm going to say when they ask me,
this is what I'm going to do.
I ain't going to say nothing.
Yeah, you would work in today's game, Unc. You're too goddamn
serious, brother. I want to win, Ocho.
Do you know? I know you want to win.
You could win, but you ain't got to be, you're too serious.
Like, you're supposed to be running for election or some
shit. You can't be playing in today's game.
I could, Ocho, and I know that about me.
I know that about me, Ocho. I do.
I know that about me. Because winning that about me. I do. I do. I know that about me.
Cause winning.
Right.
That's all I cared about.
That's all.
The only thing I cared about was winning.
You can still,
you can still enjoy yourself.
You can still enjoy yourself.
It lets you head out and,
and,
and,
and have fun and win.
I enjoyed winning.
I enjoyed preparing to win.
And I was miserable when I lost,
I was miserable to be around when I lost.
A lot of times my girlfriend would go home when I lost.
Okay,
babe,
I know you don't want to be bothered tonight.
I'm sorry.
I'll see you tomorrow.
God damn.
I put too much time in Ocho because you know why?
The more time you invest in something, the more it hurts.
That's why people, you see people when they invested a lot in a relationship, 10, 15 years, and it hurts.
I'm sending flowers.
I'm writing.
I'm not saying me, but I'm saying they're sending flowers.
They're writing.
They're buying gifts because they don't want it to end because they're invested.
And then you see people
they gone and like I wouldn't even
with that person because they didn't give a damn
from the beginning they weren't investing
when you
invest in something it hurts
I don't care what it is
when you put time in it
when you
you invest it
man please no it when you invest it.
Man,
please.
No, everything ain't for everybody. Everything's
not for everybody, Ocho. Broncos offensive
lineman Mike McGlitchy was
asked about Bo Nix being named starting
quarterback. Bo has come in and been
authentically himself.
And I think that's all you can ask for him.
He doesn't have to be somebody that he's not
just because he's a superstar
quarterback of an NFL franchise.
What'd you take from that, Ocho?
Man, I don't know.
I don't know what motherfucking McGlinchey's talking
about. I don't like
the subliminal.
You don't know what he's talking about.
Listen.
He doesn't have to be somebody
that he's not just because he's a
superstar quarterback of an NFL franchise.
You just told me you didn't know what he was talking about.
What is the point of saying all that?
You didn't have to say all that.
So you do know what he's talking about.
So you do know what he was talking about.
Yeah, but listen.
So what are you talking about though, Cho?
Hold on.
Hold on, but you just said sublimity
yeah
that's what it sounds like to me
so a subliminal message is a message that you understand
but he gave it to you subliminally
so what is he saying
he ain't putting no name on it
so you can't use subliminal B
because you don't know what he's talking about
yeah I don't know what he's talking about
but I don't like what he said
I don't like the way he talking about. Okay. Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about. But I don't like what he said. I got it.
I don't like the way he said it.
Because the person...
What did he say?
Hold on.
The person he talked...
But listen, he said...
He tried...
He acting like my dog, Russell Wilson,
wasn't being his motherfucking self.
You said you didn't know what he was talking about.
I'm putting words in the goddamn context.
You said you couldn't say that
because you didn't mention no name.
Officer lineman Mike McGlinchey.
Russell Wilson been Russell Wilson since day one.
Russell Wilson been Russell Wilson, a God-fearing man,
since he was at Wisconsin.
So he's always been this way.
He's always carried himself the same way.
So I'm confused.
When he was in Seattle, he carried himself the same way.
And what was the problem
the Seahawks teammates had with him?
You do know.
You do know.
You do know.
What was said on show,
you've heard, sir.
You've heard my show.
You've heard others.
Don't do that on show.
Don't do that.
What'd they say?
You gotta remind me.
What'd they say?
We ain't gonna go back to this.
You don't know.
But you know what was said. So while you keep saying this you don't know but you know what we're saying
so while you keep saying he was himself
they had the same thing to say about
it in Seattle that they said
about him in Denver so you're absolutely
right he was himself
but
how many people believe that
was who he was
well obviously
you can listen
I like where you went right there so if you only show one who he was. Well, obviously, you can know, listen,
I like where you went right there.
I like where you went there.
So if you only show one side of yourself, right?
I've only seen one side of him.
No, but...
I've only seen one side of him.
From what I heard
and from the players that I talked to,
what he was when he got there
and what he became
was two different people.
Ah, now see, I wasn't around
there for that. See, I
wasn't around there for that. I was
with Russell Wilson at Bible study.
I don't know what he was at Bible
study. I don't know what it was school.
I don't know what it was.
I'm just saying what was
relayed to me that people that
played there
were people that played with him to me that people that played there.
Right. What people that played with him in Denver and people that were close.
I don't need to get.
Look, everybody.
I know that's that's that's the beauty of life.
That's the beauty of life.
At some point, at time, as we grow, as we mature, mature we evolve sometimes we evolve for the better
sometimes we evolve for the worse some people aren't going to be okay with your growth
and they might speak on that in a negative tone or in a positive tone sometime who you are you
know what i don't like the way he is there's nothing you can do about that because your change your growth and your your willingness to evolve might rub other people
the wrong way but it's about what you want to do mike zimmer is back in dallas hotel where he first
began his nfl career the former bikers head coach reflected on his fine but rather than sharing some
lessons learned that from his mistakes,
he seemed to blame his players.
They asked me if I wanted to address the team.
I said,
hell no,
they got me fired.
Zimmer who admitted he hold grudges says he's not watched one Minnesota game
since.
They asked me if I wanted to address the team.
I said,
no,
hell no. They got me fired hey listen you know there is a saying there is a saying in the NFL and coaches notice behind
closed doors players can get you hired players can get you fired for sure players to get you hired, players can get you fired. For sure. Players can get you paid.
Players can get you paid too,
now.
You know,
so I understand
where Zim is coming from,
but normally you don't hear
that coming from a coach.
If you know Zim,
you do.
Normally you won't say,
hey,
hey,
yeah,
hey,
boy,
Zim coach,
you know,
Zim was the defensive coordinator
in Cincinnati,
now.
I know,
I know,
I know how he is,
but that's funny.
That's funny to hear,
you know,
coming from coach, being truthful, being authentically himself,
and really not biting his tongue or changing, you know, what he wanted to say.
Hell, that motherfucking got me fired. I love it.
And standing on business about that.
I love accountability, Ocho.
You know I'm big on accountability.
And it's easy a lot of times to blame the coaches, but at some point in time, players got to go play.
Yeah, they got to.
There's only so much coaching you can do.
There's only so much coaching you can do.
There are only so many X's and O's
that you can do.
At some point, you got to go out.
Damn them X's and O's.
You got to go out.
There's some Jim's and Joe's.
Jim's and Joe's.
Jim's and Joe's.
Hey, you draw that up there?
Anytime you draw X's and O's on the blackboard,
they don't move.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's up to the players to go out there and execute it.
Coach asked me all the time,
hey, 84, why'd you do that?
I said, because when you drew it up on the board,
that X didn't move.
I got on the field, he was moving all over the damn place.
So I think I had to adjust.
Yeah, yeah. He was booing all over the damn place. So I think I had to adjust. Yeah.
Yeah.
He's crazy about his mom.
Hell no.
Hell no.
They got me fired.
But Zim's funny, man.
Man.
The Eagles are entering a new era without Jason Kelsey.
Not only was Kelsey the primary leader in the locker room,
but also someone who had handled duties on the
offense. In fact, he handled some
things Jalen Hurst didn't have to.
But that all changes this year.
Hurst said the eagerness to learn was
halted due to Kelsey's expertise.
So, you know,
a lot of times, you know, we saw
a couple of times Kelsey
and Hurst disagreeing.
Elsie wanted his protection to go one way.
Hurts thought it should go another way.
Now,
Kelsey being who he was, being
the leader, being in the locker room, being a
very senior
guy,
he has felt he needed to fall back.
But no longer. We had a great player,
Jason Kelsey, who took a lot of responsibility
as a result of that. I was told not to worry about a lot of things. And so my eagerness to learn over the
years kind of was halted, but now times are different. Ocho, what are you expecting from
Hertz? I like it. I like it. I like it. I like the fact that he wants to know, but you know,
it's a lot, it's a lot to learn when it comes to the center position. The center position
is the goddamn glue that holds
that line together. It all
goes and starts
with the center position.
So now the fact that
Hurts will also know the calls that are
made. A lot of he's going to be making
because they turned it.
That was Kelsey. Remember what he said?
He said, hey, don't you? But they turned it over to Hurts. That was Kelsey. Don't worry about it. Let Jason turned it. That was Kelsey. Remember what he said? He said, hey, don't you?
It hurts. That was Kelsey.
Don't worry about it. Let Jason handle it.
So he's ripping Liz.
He's making it so, okay, we're going to molly. We're going to duel it.
What are we going to do here?
Now,
he's the senior guy.
They got a new center. He says it's on my
show, and I'm eager to learn.
Yeah.
I'm sure he's going to be fine.
Listen, his plate has become just that much more full now.
You have to take on a much bigger load.
You already have enough to worry about as a quarterback when you come to the line of scrimmage.
Obviously, you know, point out the mic, watching the the safety point at the safety being able to
understand the hot reads knowing what's going on so he has a lot to learn and a lot on his plate
but i think i think hers is going to be fine it comes with the territory of playing the quarterback
position it just does that's why it commands the kind of money it does as well because you have so
much to worry about but i think he's going gonna be fine especially the game of football hadn't changed he'd been playing the game of football for a very long time defenses haven't
changed it's just a lot of them you have to know a lot of them you have to learn about i think i
think i think it'd be if you go back and look at some of the nfl films you saw one of the arguments
that peyton and jeff saturday got into it about who's going to call it. And Peyton was like, hey, shut the bleep up.
I'm going to call it.
You know, they're going back and forth.
Because a lot of times with guys like Peyton,
they're like, no, no, no, no, no.
I got this.
Because if you miss this call,
I get hit in the back of my head.
If I get hit in the back of my head
and I make a call, I can live with that.
If I get hit in the back of my head,
you make a call, I'm going to put my foot in your ass.
Your ass, yeah.
So, I'm not surprised by
this. Jalen Hurts lost 60 of his last seven
starts after starting 29
and four in his previous 33,
including the playoffs. Hurts still has an
important and a very good,
no, great supporting
cast. A.J. Brown, Devontae
Smith, and now Saquon barkley and they just traded
for uh johan dawson johan yes go boy oh joe check this out they got a night they got a nice three
headed must over another day another non-basketball play on caitlyn clark the sky have committed more
than their share of hard files on caitlyn cl DeShields got into the action on Friday.
She fouled Clark twice in a span of 40 seconds in the fourth quarter of the Fever's 181 victory and later knocking her down.
The play was ruled flagrant one.
DeShields giving Clark two free throws.
Clark made both free throws, reached a career-high 31 points for the game.
Oh!
30 points, 12 assists.
Also, hold on, for the first game and also the record
for the first 30-point 12-assist game in WNBA history.
Ocho, 17% of the WNBA's flagrant fouls this season
have been committed against Kaitlyn Clark.
Ocho, 17% of the WNBA flagrant fouls have been committed against Clark. Hey, 17% of the WNBA flagrant files have been committed against Clark.
The Chicago sky were responsible for 80% of the flagrant files committed
against Clark.
But you know what?
Oh,
Joe,
it's the great white high.
There's nothing Shannon.
You just want to support that white girl.
She busted y'all ass. Hey, there's a white girl. She busts in y'all ass.
Hey, there's the women.
I ain't going to call y'all name.
Y'all have a lot to say.
Y'all even tag me.
Why y'all tagging me?
Somebody say something to y'all.
Y'all tag me.
I ain't calling names.
I ain't going to get into it.
I ain't petting like that.
But, hey,
ladies, when people say things to you guys, I don't think
you should be what they say, call you all kind
of names. I don't believe nobody should be called
out of their names. But I don't know
why when somebody addressed y'all, y'all feel y'all need
to tag me.
They're addressing y'all.
If they want to address me, they would address
me. Y'all keep me out of this. Y'all keep me out of this. Y'all said what y'all. If they want to address me, they would address me. Y'all keep me out of this.
Y'all keep me out of this.
Y'all said what y'all said.
But I'm just trying to figure out why y'all lump me in.
No, no.
They're talking to y'all.
They're talking to me.
Y'all try to make me y'all own.
If you like Caitlyn Clark, you got to hate Angel.
And if you love Angel, you can't say anything good about Kayla Clark.
Y'all can't tell me what the F to say.
I'm going to say what I want to say.
Yeah.
Now, back to my originally scheduled program.
Kayla Clark doing the thing on the mojo.
Yeah, she had that cutting up now.
She had that cutting up.
Listen, you notice how the season, as the season has gone on,
how she's gotten a little bit more comfortable.
I thought the women that know.
She got a little bit more better.
What about these women that follow their coach?
I thought they would know that.
I thought they would know.
The way they talk about it, one of them coach, they cover the game,
they got podcasts, and they cover all these sports.
Now, all of a sudden, I stand.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
She's sharp on both sides.
Cutting ass left and right.
Yeah, she playing good ball.
Good.
She playing good basketball.
Is that what you're saying?
I hate to see if she playing great.
She playing good basketball.
Listen,
make all hands,
hands, hat off to caitlin clark she playing
some damn good basketball but she's a good player oh joe and if you set aside the fact that look
people give her credit and i get it a situation and hey well what about all these old heads
they did bro what about all the old head
that never got the love and admiration that michael jordan got when he came in the league
right that happens as time goes on guess what 20 years from now somebody's gonna get credit
that lebron james didn't get it happens don't be resentful of it embrace it
I get it
but I'm just trying to figure out how 17%
of the flag rip off
if
unnecessary roughness happened to one player
17% of the time
that's not an anomaly
that's not an outlier
that ain't no coincidence
no that's not an outlier that ain't no coincidence no
hmm
coincidence is not a coincidence
right
Ocho
if you get
five speeding tickets in a year
they ain't picking on you
you just drive fast
that's what that is that's what that is that's what that is They ain't picking on you. You just drive fast.
That's what that is.
That's what that is.
That's what that is.
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All right, Ochoa, it's time for our last segment,
and it's called Q&A.
East Coast, oh, we got graphics.
Yep, see, here we go.
Holy shit.
I don't know why that shit was so damn funny.
East Coast camp said Oregon is trash.
They struggled against Idaho,
and they'll struggle in the Big Ten.
Trash.
They trash, Ocho? Who that? Oregon? Idaho and they'll struggle in the big 10 trash. They, they trash.
Who that Oregon?
Wow.
I don't care about Oregon.
I don't,
I don't,
I know who I do care about my goddamn beavers who I predicted.
Listen,
chat.
I don't know if y'all know,
I know we in Q and a right now.
I don't know if y'all know,
man,
shut out to my Oregon state beavers.
Shut out the coach. Trent Bray coach. Trent Bray. we in Q&A right now. I don't know if y'all know. Man, shout out to my Oregon State Beavers. Shout out to Coach
Trent Bray. Coach
Trent Bray, congratulations on winning today.
Did you know that Beavers' favorite
food
is potatoes? Did you know that?
I thought it was wood. You didn't know that?
I thought it was wood.
Them teeth.
Listen, they play in Idaho.
Idaho's known for potatoes.
Oh, so they went and ate the potatoes, huh?
Went and ate them goddamn potatoes.
Shout out to my Florida A&M University and Coach Cozy on beating South Carolina State today.
I'm so happy, man.
I'm so happy.
You ever had any beaver?
You ever ate any beaver? You ever ate any beaver?
Nah, you don't eat beavers.
Yeah, you do.
What you be talking about?
You be trying to get me to do it.
You do eat beaver.
Nah, you can't.
You can't eat no beaver.
Yeah, you can.
Yeah, yeah.
Think about it.
Now, when you drive to your coffee, yeah, I eat a mean beaver.
No, no, I don't eat no beaver.
Yeah, you eat beavers.
I don't eat no beavers.
You don't eat a plenty of beavers.
Nah, not them kind of beavers.
Nah, not them kind of beavers.
Yeah, I'm retired.
I'm retired from there.
I'm retired from that, boy.
Why you laughing?
I'm laughing.
I'm just thinking about it. Yeah, I had to think tired from that, boy. Why you laughing? I hate them days. I didn't start thinking about it.
Yeah, I had to think about it for a minute.
I ate a few beaver.
I ate a few beaver. I ate some.
All they do is
clog up your damn pond.
It's the damn...
That's what they do.
Hey, yo,
what was the conversation like between you and john cena
off camera he used to be my favorite wrestler growing up at ocho want to know head uh uh
common session and undisputed lol he was great uh he came in uh got it i think he had some water
he got water to drink he didn't eat anything did he did john eat anything just had water he got
some water sat down got made up he had a hard out time so that lets me know that okay they tell me he got a hard
out time i gotta make sure i'm tight uh try to ask the questions that i think the viewing and
listening audience want to hear john cena and so but he was great he was really gay really engaged
uh complimented say man you really do a great job.
I've watched your show. I can tell you do you and your team do a great job of doing your homework and knowing the guests.
That means a lot for CJ and his team and myself, the kind of work that we go in and prep to make sure we try to make the guests feel as comfortably as we possibly can.
We try to have hair and makeup if they need it. A lot of times they bring their own hair and makeup people.
We try to have food there for them to eat, water, whatever they ask.
They give us a rider, which lets us know, okay, they write down,
okay, what do you want?
You want orange juice?
You want apple juice, pineapple juice, grapefruit juice?
You want sparkling?
You want steel?
You want what type of product you want?
Is there anything?
We try to have that there for mojo but he was he was great and all the guests all the guests for me
i haven't had a bad guest uh um some guests are more talkative than others uh normally they come
in there's a hey man hey thanks for having me on or she'll say the same thing thanks for having me
on they give me a hug i let them do what they need to do. Hey.
They be ready to go. But John, John
was unbelievable. He was, he was, he was
unbelievable, yes. Rodney Diggins, what up,
Rob? Oh, do you remember when you ate
Georgia Southern up? Yeah, I do. They beat us.
They beat us, but I beat them, Ocho.
That was the year they won. As a matter of fact, that was
my last, that was 89. They ended up winning
the national championship that year.
They started, you know, Ocho, they wasn't going to let us come down there
and beat them.
But I hit them up, Ocho.
Yeah, I hit them up.
This is how you know somebody hit you up.
Their head coach used to be the Georgia Bulldogs defensive coordinator,
Irk Russell.
Right.
And the year they won the national championship,
he was the defensive coordinator when they won.
He was the head coach at Georgia Southern.
I did such a phenomenal
job. At the end of the game,
walked to the middle of the field, he gave me a victory
cigar.
Now think about
what I just said. They
beat us, and he
gave me the victory cigar.
So you was out there cutting
that, huh? I hit him up for nine, for 202.
I had an eight. God
dang! I had like an 80 yarder call
back. I would have gotten over 300.
I had 300. I'd have
had over 300. I hit him up for 91.
That might be the longest
touchdown in that stadium. I hit him up for
91. Had to grab, you know,
hit him up.
Okay, okay.
Bad day. I was up, mo know, get him up. Okay, okay. Oh, sheh, hey,
man, they, they, I was
up, Ocho. J.C., uh,
Jason C. say, didn't Rice to use
and stick him? Does that affect his legacy?
Ocho, does that affect
his legacy?
Nah, hell nah. You talking about
Rice, huh? Nah, hell
nah. I ain't think about that.
I, I, I, I, he was hell nah. I ain't think about that.
He was so great.
I'm not sure why he was just at the time.
I think he wasn't the only one doing it.
He just might have been the one that got in court.
But listen, to put up the numbers he did,
that goddamn stigma ain't got shit to do with that.
Clayton Johnson said,
Uncle Nocho, Benabronco fans, it's Elway at Water Sharp.
And TD, today is my 39th birthday.
Could you give me a shout out for my children? Rylan,
Rory, Reese Johnson. I really appreciate it. Hey, Clayton,
Riley, Rylan,
Rory, and Reese, your dad
want to wish you a happy birthday.
Happy birthday. Hope you guys have
a really, you know, he just want to shout out
his birthday. Today is his 39th
birthday, but he wanted to shout out
his kids. So Clayton,
happy 39th birthday to you,
Ryland, Rory, and Reese.
Your dad wanted to shout you out.
Hope you guys are well, doing great
in school, and make mom and dad
proud.
Tommy said
Ocho did a great job inside the
NFL yesterday.
Hey!
NFL matchup highlight. Ocho, what do you think about the guys in the short
high end prime years making
Hall of Fame guys like Sterling Sharp
Nande Asimov and Cam
Chancellor
Cam played how long
did Cam play
I'm not sure
Cam played a decade
that ain't no short career my brother played Cam play? I'm not sure. I think Cam played a decade.
That ain't no short career.
My brother played seven years, and at
the time he retired,
I think Jerry was the only one
that had that many catches
in a seven-year span.
Also, Jerry was the one that had
Cam played eight years.
Yeah, Cam's style physically was really not conducive for playing long term.
I mean, that collision, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think if guys, I don't know, like, I don't know Cam's stats,
so I don't know how many all pros, I don't know, like, I don't know Cam's stats, so I don't know how many all pros.
I don't know how many pro bowls.
I do know he won a Super Bowl,
and I think he was injured and just got injured in the second.
Maybe he got injured in the second.
I'm not really sure.
He went to four.
Ashley putting it up here now.
He went to four pro bowls, no all pros.
I mean, I think three pro bowls gets you on the ballot. I think, Ocho, don't quote me on this, Ocho, no all pros. I mean, I think three Pro Bowls gets you on the ballot.
I think, Ocho, don't quote me on this, Ocho,
but I think
I know Nnamdi had some years where
he was unbelievable with the
Raiders, but then he went to Philly, and
then everything that he did to the Raiders, he damn near
erased when he was in Philly, because he got
cooked.
He got cooked.
Aaron Knight, 26, Aaron Knight, 26, Aaron Knight, 26, got cooked he got cooked air night 26 uh air night 26 and ocho is burl winning the super bowl this
year for us who joey d is he winning the super bowl for you guys hey but listen we we have a
great chance we have a great chance to go to the super bowl and i'm telling you it would be an
amazing story but one we got to take care of business first. We got to get Chase paid. We got to get
Chase paid. We need Burrow to stay healthy. If we get Chase paid, we have Burrow stay healthy with
that supporting cast on offense. Man, we're going to be all right. But we're going to be nasty. We're
going to be all right. So I'm excited. I'm excited for us. Good luck with that.
I hope y'all have a great season.
But as long as y'all don't play the Ravens, as long as y'all don't beat the Ravens or the Broncos,
I don't care what else y'all do.
Hey, we're going to beat the Ravens.
That ain't happening.
Twice.
That ain't happening.
All right.
That ain't happening.
Has Joey B ever beat Lamar?
Maybe once.
Yeah, I think we won in three against him
since Joey got there.
So what makes you think it's going to change this year?
It's 2024.
That's okay.
It's 2024.
And listen,
when it comes to guessing games,
when it comes to guessing games
and telling you who's going to win
based on matchups
or scoreline,
I'm the one to come to.
I'm the one. People that gamble in Vegas
come to me. If they want to lose their money,
they do. No, no, no, no, no.
People in Vegas, they come to me
about information because
I know everything. I know the ins,
the outs.
Yeah. You with the in and out? You like their
burgers?
Who that?
That's the only in andN-Out you know.
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