Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: Jim Harbaugh money, CFB & NIL, Unc’s agent

Episode Date: October 19, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap money talk. Top stories include Jim Harbaugh waiting on his money, Clemson HC Dabo Swinney and other college coaches dealing with players and NIL money, Unc talks about his relationship with his agent and much more!03:18 - Would you pay off a $60,000 loan for your girlfriend or boyfriend?12:30 - Jim Harbaugh waiting on his money24:06 - No object is worth your life31:17 - College coaches responses to NIL36:35 - Unc’s relationship with his agent41:27 - Unc has never been too proud to work hard44:30 - If you had $196 billion, what would you do with it?(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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promos for deposit wagering and eligibility restrictions terms and responsible gaming resources Do you know how difficult it is to find a woman that's willing to extend themselves in that manner is to find a woman that's willing to extend themselves in that manner, in that manner, let alone the small things. But if you think about it today, in today's era, in today's society, everything is on us. Mm hmm. Think about it, man. Everything is on us.

Everything. We have to do everything. You got a court, you got to buy, you got to do this. And if they do buy you something, it's probably your money anyway. True. You know, so the fact that she was willing to do this out of maybe love or whatever it may have been at that time. It's got to be love. What else could it be?

Yeah. Yeah. Who the hell give her $60,000 that don't love, Ocho? It's the funny thing about it is when you're in love, you do things that you wouldn't do when you're not in love because you're thinking in your right mind. No, they say love is blinding. I ain't got no cataracts.

I can see just fine. Right. Right. Right. Sixty thousand, Ocho. So you wouldn't do that? Be honest. If you were in love with it, if you was in love with the woman right now, you would tell her no. I ain't paying no $60,000 on shit. Oh nothing. I

Did say you didn't listen to the scenario if you were in love No, oh Joe, that's my my wife is one thing a girlfriend right 60 grand girlfriend right 60 grand hold on hold on girlfriend and wife the rules are basically the same the only thing that's different is the document in the right because you know what happening cuz when they broke up and she left the place he beaten somebody else back in now guess what I pay for those long I'm paying that loan off if somebody got off somebody got a bent over the balcony. Oh hey. Oh hell no. Come on, old Joe. Well, let me tell you, listen, I had a I had a I had a I had a wonderful beautiful saying I've been saying all my life. What would you have to understand? Now, I think we are put on earth to experience people.

We were put on earth to experience people. And at times, my grandfather told me a long time ago, son, listen, you're going to meet people and I want you to always remember. She's not yours and just your turn. Yeah, she's not yours. You just turn so you really can't think like that. Now, for me, for instance, you do things to extend that vacation.

You do all the right things you can to extend that vacation and that stay as much as possible, you know? And you do all you can to keep an individual happy. So it maintains itself long-term. you know, and you do all you can to keep an individual happy. So it maintains itself long-term. Look, I think the thing is, Ocho, for a situation like yourself, me or yourself, 60 grand, that's a lot of money, but I'm not gonna, I ain't gonna lose a night of sleep.

60 grand for her is probably like, I ain't gonna say what it would be okay okay okay I see what you mean yes sir you see what I'm saying yeah yeah 60 grand is different for different people right for her that is a stretch right I'm not losing sleep over 65 right that's what I love right but the problem is Ocho is that like I say look have I have I, if I care about you, I want what's best for you, I don't want, even most of the women that I've dated,

and they'll tell you this, all of them, if they've ever asked me for something and I could do it, take off. I have, now we're getting reason now. We're getting reason. Okay, I was waiting on that part, okay, I was waiting on that.. Okay, I was waiting on that. Because here, look, now,

a lot of times I've been in a situation and they've always did me a solid. They didn't say anything negative about me, didn't say anything bad. So they always good, in my book, they could always, hey, Shana, I need eggs. Okay, I got you. Shana, I need why.

Because I'm never gonna say anything bad about you. No matter what is transpired behind closed doors, that's why I don't do anything publicly. Because I can break up privately, I can get with someone privately. But if I break it, but if I date publicly, if I'm posting and I'm doing all this, the moment, then people start to try to fish and try to figure things out. But any, any, any, any woman that I've dated, say in the last 30 years, if they've ever

asked for something monetarily and I could help them, I did. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I like, I like how you said within reason. I like how you threw that, you know, within reason. Because sometimes, sometimes they'll continue to take and take and take and take and push the limits to see how far they can go. No, I mean, I had one did me one solid. I ain't gonna tell y'all what the solid is. But when it came down, she said,

well, Shad and I need a house. I don't have a down payment. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Man, come on now. You said that a little too casually. Listen to me. You said that too casually. She did me a solid.

I be the real solid. Your boy was jammed up. Okay, okay, okay. I was in a bind. Okay, okay. I said, I tell you what. In this situation, she could have came to me and got 60,000.

She could have came to me and got 100,000. Right, right, right. But she didn't do that. Right. You say, I just need the down payment. I said, well, how much is the down payment? She said, X. I said, if I give you Y,

how much would your monthly payments be? Cause I wanted it to be as easy as it possibly can. would your monthly payments be? Because I wanted to be as easy as it possibly can. So I tried to make it as easy as I possibly could so her monthly payments would be something that she could manage where she wouldn't have to come back because I was in no position, I would have had no choice consider what she did for me.

Right, okay, I like that. I like that, I like that, I like that. I like that. I like that. I understand wholeheartedly understand where you coming from. Yeah. Based on based on circumstance. I like that. I like that. But you're real. I'm looking at your real. All you if you if you ever any of my coaches, my coach, my college, my high school coach, I bought him a car. My remedial, his Spanish teacher, every game. She didn't want anything. She'd say, Shannon, I just want to come see you play. I'm just so proud of you.

But women that have been in my life, that have been good and then try to harm, because you know, everybody ain't good. But if they've been good, they know they can get it. And I don't want nothing in return. It ain't no, oh they've been good right they know they can get it right and I want nothing to return it ain't no oh you getting the good no no no I ain't spunting the block I have it yeah what why you do you buy you okay but she did, what for what she did for me like I said, don't show. Oh yeah. I understand. You ain't got you. Listen, you ain't got to go in depth. I get from the passion and your passion, your delivery. I already know I'm with you and then bad enough. Yeah, I'm with you. I bet I've been in that situation maybe once. Hey, little did she know, out of both the house.

Yep. Why you bull driving? Because I was in a position, I was in a position then now. Right, right. Oh, she could have said, Sheldon, I need 300,000 for a house. I'm like, can I give you the money and I just, I just paid a note on it. Right, right, right, right, right. My financial people go be asking some questions. I go pull a 300,000 out of this account. But what if I gave you 100,000 and I just paid a note on it?

I give you the money to pay the note. But hey, hey, the thing we do, Ochoa, hey, you look at me. If you look at me, chat, I'll keep a stack with you mother women that have ever dealt with me I Got one separate thing protect the brand yeah, you protect the brand I got you I Got you. I Like don't talk about me.

We do what we do. Did what we did. Leave it at that. That's why people don't know man. I didn't know you weren't supposed to know. The less they know the less people can talk now they can gossip and it's easy to refute a lot. Yeah, protect the brand, Real. Protect the brand. And I ain't sleeping on the motherfucking couch

no more. Thank this here, man. Tried to put me on the goddamn couch. Shoot. She put you on the couch? She tried. She tried. I just slept on the floor, right there by the bed. Who takes a job and you still trying to figure it out six months later how much I'm gonna pay you? I don't know. I'm just telling you if I was an issue.

Chad, am I out of line here? I'm like, I'm trying to figure this out. Hold on, when did Harbaugh get the job at the Chargers? Cause maybe it's me, maybe it's me, maybe it's me, maybe it's me guys. Cause you know, sometimes I have a propensity. He got, Harbaugh got the job J-1 24th. When was Sherone Moore named head coach at Michigan?

He was named head coach January 26th. So February, March, April, May, June, July, August. Here we are September. So we've had eight months. April, May, June, July, August. Here we are September. So we've had eight months. Okay. You know who else doesn't have a contract that is deserving for the work he's put in

and going to put in? Jamar Chase. Who? Jamar Chase has a contract, Ocho. He got two years left for the contract he signed. That's not comparable. It's not enough. No, but you said he'd have he doesn't have a contract. He actually does have a contract. He has two years left on the contract that he signed on his rookie deal. Sharon Moore does not have a contract at all period period. All right, that was a mission. No contract.

Just trying to work out terms. They're trying to come to an agreement. So the man was an intern. How many games did Harbaugh miss? Three, four? So he missed three games. So you saw him intern. He kept the ship afloat.

He was your OC. Called a national championship game. You won that game. You named him head coach on January the 26th And you didn't work out a deal in February March April May June July August Here we are in September They would do that didn't know what they did they never does it going on that we don't know about I Don't know what's going on, but I just know the other guy. I know. I know other coaches don't get have to go through that.

Okay, I don't I don't want to make any speculations. Maybe it's me. Maybe it's maybe maybe maybe maybe it's me. Maybe it's me. Maybe it's me. Maybe I was it, you know, the athletic normally is that Michigan because we could always send him a little message. I just I just thought thought someone starts a job, you have the agreement.

It's already in place. OK, here's the thing. Hey, yes. Who takes a job? And like, OK, here we are. I mean, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This ain't just any job now. So let's try this.

Put yourself in Mr. Moore's shoes. If you were in his shoes are you not taking the Michigan job because a contract has not been fulfilled yet? The contract, Ocho, the contract is worked out before you take the job. That's why you take it. Are you gonna say no I don't want to coach for Michigan because the contract hasn't been worked out I'm just I'm just I just want to see I'm just I'm just asking are you not going to take the job because the contract hasn't been worked out. I'm just, I'm just, I just want to see. I'm just, I'm just asking. Are you not going to take the job because the contract hasn't done yet? The contract would have been done. There is first of all, the contract is going to be done before you take the job.

Who takes the job with no contract? Oh, so you're saying you wouldn't take it. Oh, Joe, the contract would have been done. I'm just, I'm hypothetically speaking. If you were in his shoes with the opportunity that is presenting itself to coach the Michigan Wolverines and it wasn't in place, would you take it or not? You would say no, because the.

My agent would never let me take a job in which the contract would not contract was done. Oh, Joe. Okay. That'd be like, that'd be like you said, you know what? I'm gonna get mad with no pre-nup worked out. We gonna work on that at a later date and time. You doing that. Me? You talking to me? Yeah.

But see, my situation, when it comes to that using I mean for better context prenup. Rail says okay Ocho we gonna get mad we gonna work out the contract we gonna work out the prenup you like okay rail we can work out the prenup at a later date and time whatever we gonna do we gonna work out that at a later date and time and here we are eight months So you job been bad three and a half four years And so now that's wrong Morris been there right minute. He's been the OC and so now Eight months until your marriage. You ain't nothing been signing Me doing that cuz I'm gonna make sure if she tried to leave me. I'm going leaving with half. I ain't signing shit if you try to leave me I'm going I'm leaving with half I ain't signing shit

that's between I get what you're saying I get what you're saying. Like I said Chad, man, this me. This ain't no no regular program this ain't just no regular job we talk about that's my oh Joe that makes it more egregious that's the University of Michigan. That's why you know what's gonna happen I think the fact that we're talking about it I'm sure other people are talking about it as well. When the numbers do come across, we're gonna be like, oh, now we see why it took so long. Now, they gonna take care of me. Ocho.

He ain't finna get double money. He not finna get, he not finna get, he not finna get no, all right, Ocho. Ain't no 4-year coach about to get no 12 million, stop. I bet he hit double digits though. Let's bet I bet 100 dollars Bet 100. Okay bet I bet you 100 bet And that what um college michigan played already, right? They played last week

And they play again. I guarantee you have a contract in place And I guarantee it is north of nine million before week three. Okay, first of all, you said it was gonna be double digit. Last time I said nine is not double digit. What is north of nine million? You said north of. But the fact of the matter is that this is a blue blood program. Like you said, it's not some small school.

This is a preeminent program that probably spend a hundred million, two hundred million had a hundred plus million dollar athletic budget. And you mean to tell me you've had this man working, recruiting. Yeah, you're right. I guess, listen, I mean, I see it from your point of view. I also see it from another point of view with the opportunity that that that presents itself at hand, working for this historic prestigious prestigious university knowing they're going to take care of me at some point. They don't have me working for nothing. How do I know that? Why haven't they taken care of me?

Because this thing you ain't this thing 7-eleven this ain't H&M. This is yeah this is the University of Michigan and I know know they can get that check. You would think they'd have took care of it by now. Yes, sir. I understand. I totally understand what you mean though. I totally do. I promise you I do.

I don't know why it's going on. I don't know what they waiting on. But I'm just saying if the opportunity presented itself, if I was Mr. Moore with great understanding that it might not be done now, but I know they're going to make sure I'm good. Eight months, oh, shoot. Listen, you think eight months long? I may ask you a question. You think eight months long? How long you think I made?

How long? Not to put my personal business out there. You know, I made I made real weight nine months before she even could get some. And you think that's long? There's no difference she had to work for that but hold on but but but what what what if what if we all had to pay you for sex and say well oh yo i i will pay you in eight months exactly you see how you look at yeah exactly right now now now when you put it like that from a context, because I don't, I don't, I don't lay down for free. Are you right by that?

Yeah, that's my only thing to Ocho. I'm like, okay, normally when you like, okay, you come in for a job interview. Okay. Okay. Well, how much does the job pay? Okay. What are, what are my expectations on the job? What's the job hours? What's the whole, what's the work schedule, overtime? Okay, do I get health benefits? Okay, do I get, you know, PTO? I'll come in with a job.

I need CTO. Choice time off. You know what I'm saying? I choose to take off. So all those things I'm working out. Okay, Mr. Sharp, you got the job. Okay, thank you. Oh, whoa, I got a job. How much does a job pay? I understand sometimes like medical, it could take 30 to 60 days before you get medical. I get that, but I ain't taking no damn ain't fucking

for me to get no paycheck. I'm not familiar with these types of situations being that I've never been in a position to be a coach or work at a university like Michigan, so I don't know what's going on. I have no idea. Maybe if I was Paul Feinbaum, I'd have a better answer for you, but I don't know. I don't know. But I do think he's going to get paid and it's going to be north of 10 million.

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was shot in an attempted robbery. The 49ers confirmed that Pearsall has sustained a bullet wound to the chest was in serious but stable condition. Pearsall and a suspect, a 17 year old who's in custody with charges pending were both injured in a physical altercation that succeeded the attempted robbery. Both were

taken to a San Francisco general hospital. DA office is planning to file charges of juvenile court next week due to the suspect's age. Earlier today, Peresol attended an autograph signing at Kyle Palace in a nearby Daly City. This was all alleged over Rolex. Listen man. Nah, nah he ain't no juvenile. Nah, he ain't no juvenile. Grown man. Yeah, you gotta put grown man charges on him. But listen, there's another lesson in this

for my athletes, for anybody out there that has nice items. Nothing, nothing is worth your life. No. Nothing is worth your life. You can buy it, you can buy another Rolex. You can buy another chain. If someone's trying to take your car, you can buy another car.

Anything, if you are at gunpoint, you give up those possessions. I don't think they pulled a gun out of him on first, Ocho, cause I believe he either gave it up like you said. Yeah. I think he tried to, you know, probably tried to strong arm and got the tussle in. Yeah, see, don't do that. You only get one shot. This ain't a video game.

If somebody come up to you and they ain't got no gun, they ain't got no knife and they say, Ocho, give it up. You taking it off that free? Yes. I'm not playing. Why? you know why oh why why why play tough? Why am I playing listen? No, listen to me if somebody come to you and say let me get whatever is off you You already know they holding You are you already know they hold and why you didn't play that game. Yeah, man. Yeah, you could take man take this shit I can buy this again. I can't I can't this ain't Call of Duty. I can't revive myself Don't get a second chance at life.

I mainly, like I said, the man's either at an autograph signing, Ocho. So I'm pretty sure it's probably in a, probably in a fairly nice area. I mean, I've done a few autograph signings and there ain't really no shady places Yeah, but you know, it don't matter we yet It don't matter where you at

He probably jet jet probably knew he was there and waited her after the signing to confront him He thought he but he thought he thought he could take it. Yeah Let me ask you a question. You think that 17 year old gonna run up say a Trent give it up. Trent Williams? Yeah Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii i get what you saying Ocho. Try not to put myself in that situation you're right you're absolutely. Yeah, I mean, I've been in that situation, but I didn't turn around. I took his word for it. He said, hey, you already know what it is. Hey bro, my wallet in the car, I ain't got nothing over. I don't want no problem.

Hey, I ain't got nothing, I ain't got nothing. Funny things. That's what stopped me from taking, carrying cash around like that. I used to always carry cash. Anybody that. Oh, yeah. I always care can't Anybody that knew me when I was younger Oh Joe if you ever saw Shannon Sharpe with less than ten bands on it call the cops somebody just robbed it right around the corner Mm-hmm. I Kept it on but then I'm like man

For what I'm inviting trouble For what? I'm inviting trouble? Yeah, you right. You know, half the people, you can understand who really doesn't value their life. I can see the comments. I can see the comments and you can tell who really don't value their life. About dumb ass jewelry or chains or shit that really holds no true value Mm-hmm just by the comments and folk folk folk don't care man. Hey, they swear they listen you don't get two of these

No, you don't get you you don't you don't get two of these you can't revive yourself It ain't it ain't you can't press press We're gonna try to talk to him you ain't gonna try to talk to him. You ain't gonna try to talk to him. You're just a young man bro. You can't play up. Now help man take this shit because you know the funny thing you take my shit you're gonna be mad anyway when you try to go pawn in the cellar because it ain't real no way. So not that shit. You done lost twice. You try to get him on and hey bro hey y'all fellas go ahead take this. I'm trying to get you away from me as quick as I can. And go on about your business man. I'm trying to get you away from me as quick as I can. And go on about your business, man.

I'm trying to get home to these goddamn 85 kids, buddy. Yeah, I ain't done wrong with that, Ocho. Trying to, trying to, trying to. I get it, you're right. I mean, you're right, Ocho, I ain't. You ain't right when you ain't wrong when you're right. You're right. You ain't wrong when you're right, Ocho.

Just, hey, let old young fella have it. And he's been dealing with it. He's been dealing with some injuries. It's been kind of hard for him to get on the field, Ocho, because he's been dealing with it. He's been dealing with some injuries. It's been kind of hard for him to get on the field, Ocho, because he's been nicked a lot. And then this happened, man. He probably thinking like, Lord, I mean, you done blessed me, but I got buzzed up right now.

Cause what's going on? And it's like, bro, like I said, but that 17 year old? Nah bro, you ain't no juvie. I gotta put real charges on you because you doing real adult crime. like, bro, like I said, but that's 17 year old? Nah, bro, you ain't no juvie. Yeah. I got to put real charges on you, because you doing real adult crime. And think about it. He hit him in the chest.

Yes. And God obviously has favor. Ricky is OK. Now what happened if he wasn't OK? What happened if he had passed away? And I'm thinking, like, we don't really value life. What would happen if he had passed away? And I'm thinking like we don't really value life until we lose somebody close to us. We don't really value life until it happens to us.

Always. And then everybody's favorite line is, oh you messed the city up with this one. Oh but no, I'm reading the comments. Everybody tough. Oh, you were easy lit. But you never value it until it either happened to you or somebody close to you. And then it's a, oh, damn, you fucked the city up with this one, twin. Damn.

You ain't wrong. I just talked to you the other day. And we so lost. Yeah. I just, everybody try, everybody trying to get that lick though, Ojo. You know, everybody, hey, everybody trying to hit a lick. Not everybody, but I'm saying, you know, people don't want to,

everybody's gotten above working. Man, I ain't working on no damn McDonald's. That's beneath, I ain't doing this job, that's beneath me. So let me go take somebody else to work hard for, let me go take that up off them. And then when it end, he ain't have to do it like that. He ain't have to shoot him, he ain't have to kill him,

well, you ain't have to take that man's shit. Yeah. Yeah, and listen, When you robbing somebody, when you doing bad to somebody, harm to somebody, whatever happens, happens, Ocho. Mm-hmm. Number one ranked Georgia Bulldogs seem to be in peak condition already

as they dropped a hammer on Clemson and the Mercedes Benz doll. Ocho, I remember a decade ago, Hey, Mr. B. Dabo Sweeney said that a player started getting paid, he would exit. His ass still there. Yeah, what are you waiting for? I think he understood. Listen, this is one of the same reasons Nick Saban probably won't say it. This is one of the same reasons why Nick Saban, I think he left. Dabo Sweeney said it ahead of time without really saying it understanding

it's coming the the play the playing field yeah it evens it evens you're at a disadvantage unless you open up your pocketbook and that dabble Sweeney understood that Nick Saban understood that and he said you know what i'm waving my white flag i'm gonna let somebody else take over from now on check this out he's gonna have to he's gonna have to come to the conclusion. The realization he's gonna have to have an epiphany, which is a realization that if you don't get paid over if you don't get the transfer portal, you ain't winning. Yeah, you got to win. That's the only way that's the only way you gonna win. That's the only way you're

gonna compete now. I don't know who the boosters are over in Clemson. That is the only way you're gonna compete with the better team. That's the only way you're going to compete with the better team That's only gonna compete with the Alabama's only way you're gonna compete with the LSU's only way you're gonna people Michigan's all those top-notch team Clemson one of four teams Navy Army Air Force, they don't accept transfer a disservice Academy that didn't land the transfer Did transfer, a disservice academy that didn't land a transfer. Didn't.

Hey, Davo, you said when they started playing players, you would go exit stage left. Yeah. I remember, hey, you know another guy, Coach K said, I don't do that. One and done's, no, that ain't me. Until he started doing one and done's. If you can't beat him, join him.

One and done's. Davo. Yeah, you ain't got no choice. You ain't got no choice. You ain't got no choice. You're not that good. You're not that good, buddy. You ain't got no choice. You're not that good. If you think you just gonna get high school seniors

and that's what you gonna win with, bro, it's over. It is over. Everybody else is doing it. Look at the top 10 teams. And obviously, reading the thing, I think I was in New York Times, Ochoa Joe was telling you what it costs to get a top notch. You pay in seven, $800,000 for a quarterback. You pay a full 500,000 for the zebra. You pay a full 500,000 for a defense lineman.

Can't beat them. Join them. That devil has to understand it is now a business. It is now a business. so we need you to evolve as The business model of collegiate football is evolving and that is the only way you're gonna continue to Pete I mean your only way you're going to be able to continue to compete It's just a slight adjustment. You got to adapt you got a dab with everything else You have to adapt and that's the only way listen. He has a he has a bio clause is goddamn $60 million dollars. $50, $57, and $26.

She man. I mean, come on now. And listen, I was I it's not a bad thing though. You have to stand Clemson. They play Georgia. They play Georgia. This is the best team in college football. Is this a measuring stick for how good Clemson is or how bad Clemson may be? They went nine and four last year, Ojo. This is not a game.

This is not a game I want to gauge on how good we are right now. They went nine and four last year. That was the first time since 2010 they didn't win ten games. Yeah. Hold on. You mean to tell me Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, all the top 10 teams can go in the portal, but you think you good enough not to? Yeah.

I mean, you ain't go have no choice. I'm trying to make something right, Osho. I remember the- You ain't go have no choice. I remember the time, guess what? When them PWIs wouldn't touch a black. Oh yeah. USC say, y'all don't want them, we go get her.

And the USC went down there and beat the brakes out of Alabama. When Sam Bam went down there and they drug Alabama. Yeah. Takes one to catch one. Guess what happened, Ocho? With Al Davis, they ain't wanna text HBCU players. Al Davis says, okay, let me go on up here

and give me a couple of them. A lot of the players that's in the pro football hall of fame come from HBCUs. Yes, sir. Yeah. HBCUs, yeah. Yeah. So, Dabbo can do all this, he can get on his pulpit,

and preach and pontificate all he wants to oh I believe they start you ain't no player. He had no problem every time Clemson give him a boost He make it seven. He make it eight. He make it ten. He make 11. He had no problem. Oh The players this way this is college. This is bad. Shut up The plan for to get that money. Get it. Get it. And don't y'all go to Clemson unless they pay top dollar. Yeah. Yeah. You listen, you know, if you want to win, times have changed. You got to adapt to your surroundings. You got

evolved. Just like technology. Same way, the game has changed. Either you get with it or you get gone. I've been very fortunate. Like I said, I've been with my agent since 1996. So we coming up on 30 years. Yes, sir. Anytime I've lost something, he always tells me, don't never worry about it the next company you work for

They'll pay for it. Mmm Okay Like they'll pay for it you got to get up off a car you got to get off of X amount of dollars Don't even worry about it Puts my mind at such ease. I puts my mind at such ease. I like that. But as I've gotten older, as I got older, I've become more and more detached

from things. Cars, money, jewelry. It don't mean as much to me as it once did. Yeah. So once you could detach yourself from it, Ocho? That's freedom, uncle. That's freedom, uncle. That's the definition of being free.

Where it don't have a hold on you no more. It don't got you in a choke hold no more. A lot of people can't do it. That's hard. I walk away from 100,000, 200,000 like an ish. Yeah. It won't even look back. Yes, sir.

Because that's just where I am now. That's where I am in my life now. It don't mean now you call those shit in it's 20s and 30s. Different ball game. I spend 500,000 to get 100,000 back. Because I know you ain't got it. And so I'm gonna put your ass in a crunch.

But now, take off got it. And so I'm gonna put your ass in a crunch, but now take off with it. Right. Don't, it doesn't bother me anymore. Cause I'm gonna look at like, Hey, my kid is good. Mom, mom, sister, brother good. I'm great. Take off. I don't care.

You just learned Ocho as you get older, things that used to get you riled up. Yeah, mean a lot to you. It don't, it don't anymore. It ain't even worth it. Yeah, it come with time though. It come with time, time, age, maturity. Think about some of the things you enjoyed

and you loved when you was playing. I'm talking about enjoy, you just couldn't do it out. Yeah. Now, I could kill this. See, the thing is, like, when you ask God for something, I ask God for patience. Yes, sir. He's not gonna give me patience, Ocho.

He's gonna put me in a situation where patience is required. Wow. That's what he does. Right. He put you in a situation where what you're asking for is required and you learn but it took it took a while for me to get to that point. It's gonna be okay. Right. And then once I once I let that go and I start I

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I've never been too proud to work hard. People try to make me feel bad, man. You're working in the field. You're getting tall in your... Because I mean, you know, you get tall on your hands, you got tar in your hair, you out there getting black. I ain't never been too, I've never been too proud to work hard. Man, give me an honest day's salary, I give him an honest day's work. Yes, sir.

I can honestly say I ain't never took nothing off nobody. Okay, I hit my grandma up a couple of times for 50 cent. I gave him, I gave him. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe hehehe he he gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave him, I gave And the biggest mistake that I've made a large part of my life, Ocho, is that I think everybody thinks like me. Oh, I'm going to go out there and work hard. I ain't going to take nobody else's issue. I'm going to go out here and do the right thing. I ain't going to do that. Well, you know, it's just the opposite.

No, time is different. Just the opposite. Time is different now. You know, everybody want that fast life. Everybody want that. Everybody want that Instagram lifestyle. You know, it's only, it really ain't too many jobs that can provide that lifestyle

you see on Instagrams all the time. It's only one way to get that. You know what I mean? If you ain't on that goddamn field of that basketball court, hell, there's only one other route to attain that type of lifestyle and luxury. Entertainment or something. You doing something because ain't nobody

that's working, that's worth money, posting that money like that. No, no. God, you post too much. They gonna come get it. They gonna come see what you buy. Oh, they coming to get, shit, who you telling? They come see what you buy.

I might listen. Sometimes if you're doing it and you got to get it how you live to provide to provide sometime you got you got to get it how you live. I understand that I come from those circumstances at one point too. I get it. It's unfortunate. Just hypothetically speaking, if you had 196 billion right now, what you'll do with that?

That's a good one. I know black colleges ain't gonna be suffering no more. Yeah. I know that for certain. I know my community, there gonna be a lot of outreach programs in my community. Yeah. My community gonna be a lot better

and a lot better shape than what we're in right now. I can bet you that. Now, I might be worth 196 billion today, but when I die, I ain't gonna be worth 196 billion. I ain't gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. I'm not.

Yeah. Nope. Nope. And I ain't gonna, and I'm not gonna leave all that money to my kids. I'm gonna leave them enough to do something, but not enough where they ain't gotta do nothing. Right.

I like that. So, oh yeah. Savannah State gonna be real, Savannah State gonna be well, well locked. And then I'm gonna trickle that down to, I think it's probably 125, 150 other college, black colleges. Oh, they're gonna be straight.

I'm trying to. In my community. Yeah, it'll be good. Oh yeah, black colleges. Oh, they're going to be straight. My community. Yeah. It'll be good. Hell yeah. All right. Let me see. 196 million. I'm thinking for one, first off my kids and those I have kids from everybody. Good.

I'm, I'm taking care of that. I'm taking care of home first, that nucleus, that's very important to me. Obviously my mom and my grandma are gone. My brothers, make sure they good. Schools, FAMU, obviously you know how much I love FAMU. Oregon State, got to get back to Oregon State even though I was only there for four months. My immediate close friends, It ain't that many. It's probably eight of us.

I'm talking about close. I'll make sure they good. There's some other entities that I enjoy, that I support, charities. I'm going to pour into them as well. And that's all I can think of right now. Yeah. I'm sure it's more of, I'm just hypoth think of right now. Yeah. I'm sure it's more of, I'm just hypothetically speaking right now off the top of my head, some of the things I would do.

But yeah, we will have a lot more for you. I ain't gonna be too crazy though. I'm gonna get me a new smart car. No, I don't care about no cars. I got enough cars. I done had all the cars. If I don't get another car, I'm good. I'm good with the cars.

I'm good on cars. But I tell you what, Savannah State, Nick Saban coming out of retirement gonna coach at Savannah State. Okay, listen, the NIL money, listen, that fam, you gonna be a Power 5 school when I'm done. Oh yeah, Nick Saban gonna be coaching at the battle. Yeah, the NIL. Oh,

y'all want to battle who want to battle? Yep. Come on. Come on down here to Tallahassee now. I got what if you did? Yes, sir. Hey, be all the stimulus package. Savannah state. They have double five stars. We got double five-star football and basketball. Hey, like it feel girls basketball.

Oh, the next Juju Watkins, Paige Becker. Yeah. Come on down to Savannah State. I like it. Come on get the two gone and get this. Hey, I will pay y'all more than y'all gonna make going to the WNBA. Come on down here and get this money.

That's right. Oh, for sure. I like it. Man, that ain't right. It is right. It ain't wrong either. So I'll just you what if I had that buddy, I'm taking care of black colleges and my community Oh, we will build this thing up. Yeah for sure I'm thinking that the machine I'm a change Liberty City

I'm changing the name of Liberty City and call up Call it Ocho's world By everybody by all all, by all, by all, by all the buildings up, by all Wynwood back. Yeah. Because, you know, they done came in and bought up all the stuff. All the people out. They done pushed all my people out. Bring them on back home so we can we can have our wonderful beautiful city back

man i gotta buy a franchise we're gonna get back get back five four five of us we will get us a franchise we go to football team a basketball team damn yeah for sure i just want one all black it's gonna be all black owners yeah majority owners yep and i don't even want to be the face of it I just want us I asked Mike Brown I asked Mike Brown to send me the team he's selling it I know I mean I mean I mean that in a respectful way and I like the way they run things but I just want to be on if I was to be an owner either I asked Stephen Ross Stephen Ross to say with the Dolphins or Mike Brown to sell me you got a better chance

You got a better chance because Stephen Ross doesn't have the attachment to the Dolphins like Mike Brown has to the Bingles Right, right. You gotta realize Mike Brown's dad founded the Bengals. So there's a little bit more attachment to it. It's kind of like the McCaskys and the Bears. There's a little bit more attachment of the Kansas City. Hunt, Lamar Hunt founded Kansas City. Clark Hunt and his brothers, they not getting up there. That's a family business.

So you're probably gonna have to have somebody, Ocho, that purchased the team that doesn't have the same attachment, the family attachment, the family connection to it. Now Jerry ain't ever getting rid of the Cowboys. So, and they just have a $10 billion valuation. But you're probably gonna have to find somebody that doesn't have the family attachment.

The Titans, you're not getting them. Amy Adams, skunk. Uh, I think that's another name, a bud Adams daughter. Yeah. He founded that he founded the Houston Horlors. You're not getting that from her. Yeah. You going too far now. One of the other. So if it's man, can you, hey, Hey, strong, strong, Amy Adams, strong. So like I said, you know, oh, you're like, uh, uh, you probably like the, uh, the Wilson's because they sold it. Cause a lot of times you got these owners because the, uh, what are that? The death tax was so great that the owner would die and the family

would have to like it's gonna take 45 50% of it so you had to sell it right dang yeah hey could you imagine if I own imagine if I own the Dolphins like think about that I'd be the first owner that own a team and play. Yeah. Hey, I don't give a fuck if it's one play. Put me in the game. This man want to go out there. You got all that money want to go out there and do half-circle. Hey, put me in the game.

Hey, put me in the game. You know, put me in the game. Put me in the game. Listen, one play. I ain't got to do much. As I tell you what. Play a player, play a co-GM, everything. I'm closing down Magic City for the whole week. Ain't nobody coming there but me. What about the women?

That's who I want to see. Ain't no other dude coming up. Okay, you can't. I got a lot of magic to me. Don't tell me what I can and can't do. I got them all over the whole week. Hey, buddy. That's funny.

For a private event, Ocho. Matter of fact, we can have a private event. Hey, when you fly to Atlanta? Wednesday. Wednesday? Okay, I'm leaving tomorrow. I'm gonna leave tomorrow. I'll leave tomorrow.

What the hell? What you going out there that early for? What you mean? What you mean? I'm going, I got, I ain't, I don't be in Atlanta like that. So I'm just trying to get myself acclimated. But, but Raelle ain't going to be there. Nah.

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