Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 2: LeBron’s cryptic tweet, the issue with the 65-game rule, Nicki Minaj vs. Megan Thee Stallion
Episode Date: February 1, 2024Shannon and Gil discuss what’s next for LeBron James and the Lakers, Joel Embiid’s quest for back to back MVPs, and the Nicki Minaj-Megan Thee Stallion beef. #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listen...er for privacy information.
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So, Gil, what do you make about this tweet?
They said LeBron James posted a passive-aggressive tweet after Loft signed off on his teammates before the PR staff cuts him off.
Where do the Lakers go from here?
Because he's like that.
I think the reporter asked him,
is there anything that you want to say to your teammates to play
Boston tomorrow night? And he said, no.
Just do their job. Then
after the game, he posts an hourglass.
Now, I don't know
who the hourglass was intended for.
I don't know if it was Jeannie Buss
or the hourglass was intended for his teammates.
You sorry. Time is running out on
you sorry, mofos. Or Jeannie, time is running out on you sorry mofos or
Jeannie time is running out on us
or Darvin Ham time running out on
you for real though
what you think he meant
you remember that
story you told about
that girl asking
for the patet
yes yes yes
I think that LeBron was saying the same thing.
Pack your shit, you out, right?
Just go.
There's no conversation no more.
Just everybody pack it
and get on out of there, sweetheart.
Hey, I heard what you said,
but look, the cab,
that Uber outside, right?
All y'all, there's Ubers outside.
They waiting for you.
Get, get gone.
Get, get gone.
We done.
Yeah, you ain't got to leave the NBA,
but you got to get the hell out of LA.
Sir.
Boy, the boys, they're praying for their lives.
But Gil, they've stopped playing.
I think they've given up like 135 points
over the last five games per game.
Now, I understand that it's kind of a little elevated because of the double overtime.
And I think it was, what, 140-something?
It got to the 140.
But they gave up 130-plus back-to-back nights to Houston and Atlanta.
And it's supposed to be defense.
The problem is this.
The game is harder for them.
You know they rank last in three-point attempts?
They rank last in three-point attempts.
Hell, they rank last in three-point bait, too.
They just can't keep up.
They just can't keep up.
And they don't realize if teams are shooting threes and you're sitting there
trying to get to the free throw line,
teams are going to blow you out.
Yeah, because on most nights,
the only way they're able to keep it as close as they do
is because they go to the free throw line
so much more than their opponents.
Yeah.
But they're normally, on a nightly basis,
losing the three-point battle by at least 15 points.
Yeah.
This year, they've probably shot more threes in 46 games, probably five.
More than the other team.
Yeah, yeah.
They lose in that battle on a nightly basis.
And it's hard.
It's hard to consistently overcome because threes are more than twos.
That's why teams are taking more of those
because they believe, hey, we 40% from three,
we'll overtake the 50% from two.
So when you look at it, Gil,
and that's why teams are obviously
getting up more threes,
but it's hard on a nightly basis
when a team is outscoring you by so many
points from the three point line to win ball games.
Yeah.
And the bad part about the free throw,
they're winning at the free throw line with just two players.
It's not like they're all shooting free throws,
right?
It's not like,
you know,
it's,
it's Anthony Davis or God damn LeBron,
right?
It's not like LeBron is averaging 10 to see.
He's only averaging five.
Right.
So it's really AD.
Yeah, so most of the time they're hanging on AD's shoulders
to get them to the free throw line.
So that is the hard part.
Everybody needs to do their part to try to generate points.
I like what Vando's been doing.
I'm going to give him his credit.
He's been doing very well,
putting himself in positions now to
get easy buckets.
He's not sitting at the three,
he's slicing, cutting, diving.
So you have hope, but
at the end of the day, time's up.
Time's up.
Hey, I don't know if you're
watching Lakers, but
I'm going to tell you what you do.
This is what you do, right?
There's this team, right?
I think they play in, they call it USC, right?
There's a player on that team.
He has like, it's James on the back, right?
Right.
It's James on the back, right?
You cheer for him like he's your son.
back, right? You cheer for him like he's
your son.
And therefore,
the father of that son
might consider you
a friend and might
consider you to stay on the team.
Because other than that, goddammit,
if he right now
wants
your ass gone, you gone.
66 players has been traded when Lebron's on the team that
ain't he don't hold back from cutting the fat um d-low up until uh last night had played really
really well do you think d-low still because still in it? Because I thought he, look,
he played a stretch.
He had three straight possessions in which he turned the ball over two
and then got a lucky bounce
on the other one
because he's about to turn that over.
It got deflected,
went to Anthony Davis
and AD laid it up.
But then after three horrible possessions,
he comes back and he hits a three
and he pulls up
and he doesn't even think
about it with no hesitation,
Gil.
And this is the
issue that's
this is the issue with someone like
D'Lo. You
mentally know you've been traded,
so now you don't care.
Now that you don't. So you're playing free.
Now you don't care, you're playing free. Now you don't care.
You're playing free because you're gone, right?
The deload that we see today is the deload that we needed from the beginning for us not even to be in this position, right?
You are the third option.
You are.
It's not Austin Reeves.
It's not Lemon Daddy, right?
It's not him.
It's you.
You are the all-star player.
You're the one who's been here before.
You need to be doing what you're doing.
I think because he feels he's free and he's out,
he might as well just go out there and let it go,
and that's what he's been doing.
Right.
But right now, I mean, Kobe of the Ozarks,
Austin Reeves has been the third most consistent
player yeah behind AD and LeBron and that's not I mean that that needs to be D'Lo D'Lo needs to be
the third the third most consistent player they need to be able to count on him on a nightly basis
now his average is bumped up it looked good because he's, you know, had a couple of 30-point games in there,
and he's been in the high 20s.
But he needed to play the previous 30 games like he played the last 10 games.
Yes, sir.
But the people that they're trying to trade for, I'm like, hmm.
You don't like DeJounte Murray?
What, he's about 6'2"?
I thought he liked 6'4".
He ain't D'Lo's
size. He not?
No, he's not D'Lo's size. D'Lo's a big
guard, right?
D'Lo's a big guard, so
I'm giving up.
I don't know.
I do like, you know, the name is Baby Boy.
I do like him.
I watched him this summer up in Washington.
And he can hoop.
He can really play.
Baby Boy, Murray.
DeJounte?
Yeah, he can really play Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
I don't mind it, but I never like losing height
But I guess when you got LeBron and AD back there, it's fine
They say Murray, they got Murray listed at 6'5", he ain't 6'5"?
He ain't look six,
five to me,
but he,
I mean,
he could be that,
that,
you know,
but he looked like,
I mean,
he looked long.
I mean,
he don't mean obviously ain't have any girls.
He don't have any like do him,
but he,
he looked long.
He looked angular.
I'm not even gonna lie.
I'm just be honest on,
you know,
you know,
uh,
that kid in Detroit Stewart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See,
he was after me over there. Right. Cause I said something. So you had to, so you had to keep your head on a swivel. You were like, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, see, he was after me over there, right?
Because I said some things.
Oh, so you had to keep your head on the swivel.
Yeah, yeah.
So I was, you know, I was like,
I wasn't proud when I was sitting in the stands.
I was kind of more on the low like this.
So he might look a little bit smaller than I really think.
So he really...
So hold up.
So how did this happen?
I think I heard the story.
Okay, you had said something about Isaiah Stewart on a podcast,
on your podcast.
No, I wrote something.
Okay.
Oh, Twitter.
Yeah, I don't want to be, I want to say he didn't read it right, right?
But, you know, I don't know what college he went to,
but let's just say he didn't read how I wrote it.
What I wrote was. This is what you do in the NBA.
You wait for your teammates to get around you, hold you back and you fake like you want to do it.
Right. Right. You don't get fined. You get to pretend you're aggressive.
OK, that's what you're supposed to do. That's a rule, right?
I don't know if the blood was in his eyes still
when he read that
Because he took it like you were scared, like
you really didn't want to do nothing. He said, yeah, so
you waited. So he came to me like, yeah,
so you think I waited till my teammates came?
My teammates in here
now. And I'm like,
yeah.
my teammates ain't here now.
And I'm like, yeah.
Your teammates ain't here to hold you. He really stepped to you, Gil.
Yeah, like your teammates ain't here to hold you back.
God damn, boy, did you just, did you, did you just pranking me?
So from there.
So what did you say?
So when he said that, what'd you say?
Did you stand up? No, I know.
Hell no, Unc.
What? Unc?
Listen, listen.
I'm a podcaster.
I had to think about my
episode. I got shows to do.
I can't be dragged up and down the
goddamn hallways, Unc, over some shit he couldn't read, right?
That ain't my goddamn fault because he couldn't read what I wrote, right?
I'm not sitting here trying to argue.
Because obviously, he must have knew I was coming to see me and he was triggered, right?
I'm not going to-
Where is he from?
Is he from Washington?
Yeah, he went to Washington.
Okay, yeah.
Well, damn, Gil, you went to his turf. I know. That's what I'm saying. to. Where is he from? Is he from Washington? Yeah, he went to Washington. Okay, yeah. Well, damn, Gil, you went to his turf.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
He pulled up.
I'm trying to have a nice little conversation, and he pulled up.
And I'm sitting here like, listen, I know.
Listen, I'm not even going to lie.
When he said it, I had to go to Google to make sure I said what I said.
Like, wait, what?
Not me.
So what did you say?
Did you try to explain and say, bro, this is what I said. This is what I meant. Not me. Did you try to explain and say, bro,
this is what I said. This is what
I meant. I'm sorry that you took it that way.
No, because I didn't
really, like, I don't remember saying anything
bad about him. So I had to go back and
read it and say, no, he read
it wrong.
Nah, he read it wrong. That's that
public education.
You loved him like Tom and Hearns had Mark.
Hey, listen, I didn't want no part.
Listen, I fight people I know I can win.
Listen, fighting, you only fight if you can win.
If you don't think you can win, don't fight.
So when he said what he said,
what did you say?
Huh?
Say what?
What you talking about, huh?
You didn't say nothing.
I ain't doing
2,000 push-ups a day. What's wrong
with you? But you didn't say...
You could have said, bro, that's not what I meant.
You took it the wrong way.
How do I supposed to tell this big dude he can't read?
Just tell him you.
I said, bro, you took it the wrong way.
I'm saying, look, I understand.
Ain't nobody trying to get fined.
What I was saying is that, look, you wait till your teammates grab you.
You act like you want to do something.
Bro, I know you're going to squabble in the streets,
but in the streets and in the game,
it's something entirely different.
You ain't trying to throw your career away.
I hear you,
but my feet was more on Forrest Gump style, baby.
I was ready to run.
I had to stop myself from running.
That's all shit I got a show to do.
I had an all-white uncle.
I had an all-white uncle.
I couldn't be dragged up.
Nah, Gil, you just got a different...
I mean, look, like, bro.
I was like, nah, bro.
I said, nah, you just took it wrong.
Yeah.
Listen, just like... You know how people be talking on just took it wrong. Yeah. Listen, just like
you know how people be talking on the internet?
Yeah. Oh, they have that keyboard,
they have the phone, they have that phone.
When you see me, I'm one
of them dudes. Oh, no, I don't
have the same smoke
once I see you. No.
No, I pretend that I
didn't say none of it.
Unless I know I can win the fight in which 98% of the people I talk shit about, I pretend that I didn't say none of it. Unless I know I can win the fight,
in which 98% of the people I talk shit about,
I probably can't win that fight.
So therefore,
I'm ready to run.
Right.
I'm not even going to be ashamed.
Baby, I'm out of there.
What is your take on
you got to play at least 65
games to be eligible
for awards?
MVP,
All-NBA, Defensive Player of the Year.
You miss
65, 17, so you miss more than
17 games, you're ineligible
for those awards.
And Tyrese Halliburton
has an opportunity to get 40 extra
million. He's probably, unless
he, hey, unless he get
on the ball here, he gonna
miss out on that bread.
Joel Embiid has an opportunity.
Now, here's the thing.
If Joel Embiid said
he doesn't care about the MVP,
the only other trophy, the only thing that matters to him
is the finals.
Well, get your big ass healthy.
Don't worry about the MVP.
And I'll get healthy, and let's go win the championship.
That's what he said.
He said, because after he dropped that 70,
he said, that's fine and good,
but the most important thing to me
is the NBA championship. Come on,
you know that's players.
That's player in media, right?
What are you really supposed to say?
Do you really supposed to be selfish and like,
I'm going for that MVP, baby.
I need to show y'all that
I earned this one, so I'm going
to show you I'm done. He can't say that.
You know back-to-back carries a lot of weight.
It puts you in a different category.
Yeah, so I have to play.
So a player, it plays the political game.
Yeah, I don't really care about that.
I care about the championship.
Knowing damn well you think I'm averaging 35 a game,
not to win back-to-back MVP, must be silly.
Yeah, they should have thought, oh, Gil, must be silly. They should have thought,
oh, Gil, this is what those
players should have thought when they were sitting there
and there wasn't nothing wrong with them.
And now, the owners
and the players, and hey,
the
NBA PA agreed to this.
This is the rule that the players
agreed to. So this is not something that
the owners just instituted without players being involved.
Because it seems to me the other players got tired of the superstars just arbitrarily sitting out.
Now, OK, so the only problem with it is, is.
You're putting.
You're putting number on something that's an anomaly, right?
If I play under 64 games, my chances of making an all NBA team is not that high, right?
It really isn't.
Man, please.
But if I play that dominant, I might make it, right?
Right.
You know what I mean?
So what you're taking away is you're taking away the anomaly of it, right?
In NBA history, there's only three players who's played under 65 games as one MVP, right?
There's only been three, right?
Did they have great years? bill walton 18 and 13
who played that was that was that was the year that was the year he won uh they won the finals
they won the championship in 77 yeah but george gert but he played 58 games george gervin played
all 82 games averaging 27 yeah right so you know i, you know what I mean? He was runner up.
So, you know, unless it like,
if it was the other way it made sense,
the fact that he's averaging 35 a game,
that oversees your number, right?
Yeah.
But guys were sitting out
and it wasn't nothing wrong with them.
So now what you've done
is because you were sitting out. so now we got to punish everybody
there's so i believe there's something seriously wrong with joel and b's knee but because he and
so many other players over the last decade had arbitrarily taken off well i don't want to play
tonight i'll play tomorrow night so the nba said no we're not going to have you. We got games on TNT.
We got games on ABC.
We got games on ESPN.
We got these games, and y'all sitting out.
No, that ain't going to happen.
We're going to stop it.
So, okay, we're going to take money out of your pocket.
That's the only thing that matters to you.
Yeah, but, like, there shouldn't,
I don't think there should be a number on it, right?
65 games.
There shouldn't be a number.
Just make it simple, right?
Just make it simple.
Totals.
I've always believed in totals, right?
Yeah, total.
Play 65 games.
No, no.
Like total points.
Like if you're the scoring leader, right?
The scoring leader is who has the most points, not who has the highest average.
It's too late for that now.
No, but that's how it always been, right?
Who has the most points overall?
When the season ends, if you played 50 games and you averaged 35, right?
I played all 82 games and I averaged 27, and I have more points than you.
I am the scoring champ.
Right.
The scoring champ.
The most points is the scoring champ.
The most assists is the assist leader.
Well, that's how it will look.
Baseball's not like that because baseball goes by batting average.
Somebody can have more hits and not be the batting average leader. But in football, it will look. Baseball's not like that because baseball goes by batting average. Somebody can have more hits and not
be the batting average leader.
But in football, it's numbered.
It ain't no, oh, he averaged this
many yards. Well, he ain't got the most
yards, so he ain't the rushing leader.
He don't have the most passing yards or the most
receiving yards, but basketball,
but see, that's why basketball
and baseball
stats are more sacred.
Because you know what certain numbers are.
I mean, if somebody were to ask, okay, who has the most rushing yards?
What's the most rushing yards in NFL history?
You might know Emmitt Smith has it, but you don't know how many.
You see, if I was talking baseball and I say
56, you know that's a 56
grain hitting streak. That's Joe DiMaggio.
If somebody says 300,
you know that's a great batting average.
Yeah.
You don't really know
sacred numbers in football.
But see, but batting averages,
but see, but the problem with averaging
is for you to keep your average you're willing to dodge smoke like oh i'm playing like i'm averaging
35 and i'm playing against joker with a with a sore knee nah i'm not doing that i'm not playing
against i'm not gonna play against this great defense with a sore knee i gotta wait till i'm
really healthy to play against this knee when it comes sore knee. I got to wait until I'm really healthy to play against this knee.
When it comes to totals, and you got somebody
who ain't missing no games, and he has more
points than you, you got to play.
Yeah, I just don't understand,
Gil, because when you look at it, but see
someone, I don't know when it happened,
but
excuse me, guys,
all the greats used to play
80 games, 78, 75 games,
somewhere along the line.
Greg Popovich started the bull jive.
When he started arbitrarily arresting his players.
Yeah.
I don't know, they called it low management.
Greg Popovich started this.
Yeah.
And now they're like, well, hold on.
Popovich doing it.
And look at these guys.
They in the playoffs every year.
They going deep.
They winning championships. Oh, let us start doing it. And look at this guy. They in the playoffs every year. They going deep. They winning championship.
Oh, let us start doing it.
And it seemed like to me the NBA
want to claw some of that back.
Okay, so now here's a real issue then.
This is what we got to ask.
The question,
who is coming with the idea
of the load management, right?
Is it the players
or is it the coaches and the staff,
right? Because if it's the coaches and the upper management saying, hey, take today off, boom,
boom, boom. Now, that should be infringement on contracts because you're telling me to take the days off so I can miss enough games.
So I missed this 40 million. Right. So now somebody like Hatton Burton, right?
He's injured and he's ready to come back and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hold on. You didn't get cleared yet. Hey, you're going to put that you're going to give me that 40 million.
I'm going to lose that. I will lose. Yes. So for them. hell yeah, we want to hold you back so you miss the $40 million.
We get to save $40 million on you.
So we're not going to clear you.
Right?
That becomes the problem too.
If it's their idea.
Because now when a player has an injury, if the injury is 8 to 12 weeks, that becomes 12 to 16 weeks now.
Before, it was 6 to 8 weeks.
Right out there.
Now, it's going to be a little bit longer because they can creep these games and save their money because these players can't make these All-NBAs.
Now, the problem with that is that they don't see the backlash of that.
There's going to be non-all NBA talent making all NBA, getting that $40 million.
So if Halliburton ain't getting it, that means there's going to be a player that has to sub in form that wouldn't have got it.
He comes to all NBA player.
Now you owe him his sorry ass 41 million
extra because he's going to be a super
max player
so it's going to slap
you no matter what
right
yeah and like a guy like
Kawhi now Kawhi has played damn near
all the games this year
but what about those years
in San Antonio?
Now, I get that last year
he was really hurt.
Look what Kawhi was saying now.
And he wasn't like,
nah, coach, I'm going to play.
He's like, I ain't fighting the coach.
I'm not going to play.
And then it was a situation
where he had his, you know,
hey, his uncle Dennis,
hey, Kawhi going to play this many games,
going to blah, blah, blah.
And they're like, nah,
we're going to take some of this stuff back.
Well, okay. When we talk about the San Antonio,
just from the history of it, we have to really take his side,
not Pops at this point.
Because whatever his side issue was, it hurt him for three more years.
Not like he left and
then he was healthy.
He had to be load management and
miss back to back games in Toronto.
It was still affecting him when he
first got here.
So we have to really assume that he
actually was hurt.
I think they were just mad that he
got an outside source.
Mm-hm.
I think that was really the issue that the outside source had to approve that
he's ready to play and they were the guys are the guys playing too much in offseason because it's
hard for me to see where guys are playing uh john stockton playing 16 all 15 to 16 all 82
jordan and colby playing nine of the all 82 and Malone playing eight,
I mean 10, all 82s.
How the hell are those players
playing all 82
and these guys right here,
you got to beg them to play 65.
Because the problem is
smart people
who thought they were smart
gave information and they
do not understand an athlete, right?
How much are you bench-pressing?
Right now, not a whole lot.
I haven't bench-pressed
in almost two and a half years.
I kind of tweak my pegs,
so I just do dumbbells.
But I probably could go,
give me a month and a half,
I probably could do 150 for 10.
But right now,
I can do 130 for 10.
Okay, you just said it.
Give you a month and a half and you can do what? 150 for 10. But right now I can do 130 for 10. Okay, you just said it. Give you a month and a half
and you can do what?
150 for 10.
150 for 10. Now what if I tried to make you
do 150 now?
I'm going to end up hurting myself.
Exactly. The problem is
is these guys
bodies are deconditioned.
Right? They rest so
much. They told them, hey, don't do the sand workout.
It does this.
Don't work out that much in the summer.
Hey, training camp is going to come up.
We're not going to live.
We're going to do the rubber band stuff.
So now you have the muscle mass that looks like it's explosive.
When it decides to explode, it doesn't have the strength in it, right?
So you got these guys who are resting so much that they are deep conditioned.
So when they decide to go and jump, they're hurting something.
They're hurting something versus the guys who are sitting there lifting every day.
They're running, they're playing, and their bodies is used to actually going through
this stuff. I'm playing
48 minutes. I'm out there running the beach.
I'm out there doing the Western Am.
When you go out there and play, your body
is used to all kinds of tweaks. These guys
are not. They have
the most rest, but has the
most injuries. That means your
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Guys, when I said I could do 150 dumbbells,
that means 150 in each hand.
Not 75-75, 150-150.
I mean, clearly, when y'all go to the gym, y'all on y'all damn phone.
Because ain't no way in hell y'all actually thought I was doing only 150 pounds.
You guys have seen me actually upload footage of me doing three-fifth.
What did I do?
I did four-five
for triples. I was doing
365 for eight reps.
For God's sake.
Some of y'all in the chat,
y'all guys stayed
in the same home room
all day long.
Ain't nothing
alien.
Hey, this is how
I know some of y'all had
two recesses and two naps
god dang
I'm not even gonna lie to you
I couldn't
fan them the 75 you were
talking about let alone the 150
like those are the ways
you look like who the fuck is grabbing that
like I go to the gym
and I'm the only one I've never seen.
I think I might've seen in my seven years
at this gym that I go to.
I think I might've seen somebody
take the dump to 120s.
Now at the gym that I go to in Atlanta,
they go up to 130.
Now, if I wanted to go upwards of that,
I probably have to go to Gold's gym in Venice.
I think they go to like 240, 260.
But when I was like playing,
I could go to like 170 for six.
170, 170.
But only two people have ever done those 170s,
me and Ronnie Coleman.
Ronnie Coleman was eight-time Mr. Olympia. He
did the 180s.
But I'm the only other person, other
than him, to ever do
the 170s. And I remember
Rope Man, who was my trainer.
And I felt good, because
when I was really, really into it,
Gil, I would warm up
and I would start with the 140s.
So we would do 140 for 10.
We would do, I'd do
140 for 10,
150 for 8,
160 for 8, and then
that day I was like, Rope, I feel really
good. He's like, dog. He always called me
dog. I called him, I said, Rope.
I said, Rope, I feel good today, Rope. I think I
can do it. So I hit the 170s
and I was like, damn. I said, Rope, I feel good today, Rope. I think I can do it. So I hit the 170s, and I was like, damn.
I said, damn, Rope, that felt easy.
He said, dog, go ahead and do it, dog.
Do it, dog.
And I thought about it.
I said, I'll get him next week.
I'll get him next week.
He said, dog, I'm telling you, you can do him.
And I never touched him, and I never even attempted again.
That's the only regret that I really have because I could then lift 600 pounds.
I could do, I mean, in my prime, I could do four or five for like six or seven reps.
I could do 315 for about 18 reps.
So I was like really, really strong when I was like doing it.
I stopped squatting.
When I was in college, I could squat like 580, which was, you know, I was like doing it. I stopped squatting. When I was in college,
I could squat like 580,
which was, you know,
I was like, you know what?
I think I'm going to get to 600
and then I'm going to stop.
And I remember my brother
telling me,
so you're going to lift your weight
into a three point stand.
I said, no, man.
He said, bro, I'm telling you,
ain't no wide receiver in the NFL
benching 500 pounds,
squatting 600 pounds.
Because at that point in time,
I said, I'm going to be
the first four or six guy. A wide receiver that can bench 400, squat 600. pounds. Because at that point in time, I said, I'm going to be the first 4'6 guy,
a wide receiver that can bench 400, squat 600.
He said, what you're going to do is lift yourself into a three-point stance.
I bet, damn, if I ain't lift myself into a three-point stance,
it'll go from a wide receiver to a tight end.
But at that point in time, that's the only regret, Gil,
of anything that I've done as far as athletically was not doing those 180s.
Because I know I'll never be able to do it again because I'm not going to.
I'm not going to. I'm 55. I don't need I don't need to do 180s.
But I know give me a month and a half to get back into a groove because I kind of been hit or miss.
I've been making myself go. I even went to the gym today on a Wednesday, which is the first time I've gone to the gym on a Wednesday since I've been in L.A.
But I got to get back into a schedule But I got to get back into a schedule.
I got to get back into a routine.
And so that's what I've been able to do.
So give me a month and a half.
I'll be able to do 150s for 10.
You got all the muscles.
What you need?
You need to go in the gym every day for.
Okay, I'm sorry.
When I was 19, I had 35s on both sides.
At 42, I done graduated.
What you got?
35s on both sides, just a different color.
What is wrong with y'all?
If I want to get tired, I don't go up in weight.
I just do a little bit more of the same weight.
Nah, I just-
I don't even know if I can do 40s.
35 is my max.
I go straight to, hey, sweetheart,
what you going to do with those? You going to squat?
I need those. And whatever I'm
going to do right here, whatever I'm going
to lift, 35s is it.
After that, they hurt.
They hurt.
They hurt. And that's the
thing. So I don't lift, I don't really lift heavy like that anymore.
I just got to the point where I'm like, man, I'm 55, about to be 56.
Why the hell I need to be 255 and all that stuff?
So I'm about to come on down.
I'm about to come down to about two.
I'm going to come down to like 242, and I'm going to stay to get it 242.
I'm like 255 right now.
Come work out with me, young.
Not here, though. I ain't going to get nothing. I ain out with me, young. Nah, hell nah.
I ain't getting nothing.
I ain't getting nothing.
First of all, we're going to spend the first hour just booty watching.
Right?
I got to get you acclimated with all the young things in there.
Right?
Hey, you got them girls in there with them giddy girls on?
Yeah, yeah.
Stay away from that.
I got that one.
I did that one.
I did both of them at the same time.
And then once we.
Yeah, once we. But see, them at the same time, right? And then once we... Yeah, once we...
But see, here's the thing, though, Gil.
I got to have some kind of weight to me
because I can't have dudes walking up on me
thinking they're going to punk me
because there ain't no punk in Shamrock.
No, see, I ain't got those problems, though.
No, I don't.
So I ain't...
Listen, I'm 35.
Ain't nobody...
Look, if I'm sitting down,
ain't nobody coming to stand up over me.
That ain't going to happen.
So that's why, hey, that's why I stay to myself.
I go to my little place, my little off the wall places.
I stay to myself.
Hey, that ain't going to happen.
We've seen you with the Grigio.
Like, trust me, we know.
Me, the only person that I felt comfortable with was probably
T
oh I can get him right the rest of them
they look athletic
T oh I can
get him the rest of y'all yeah I'm gonna
shut the fuck up back here
but you know he and I had a great conversation
after the thing he's like man I ain't mean no harm
I said bro all I know is I heard what
you said and I
and when I whirled
around, at that point in time,
now I'm on one.
At that point in time,
honestly, when people say they black out,
I believe them. Because at that
point in time, I completely forgot
I was at the game. At that
point in time, I'm at a cookout, I'm at
a bar, I'm at something,
and I'm not even looking at them. I'm not even looking
at them. All I know, I say,
if one guy step over that line, it's over.
Ooh, Lord.
Man, you scared us. I said, bro,
I'm saying, I don't know where y'all from.
I say, maybe y'all wired like
that, so if somebody big, you get scared.
I said, bro, I ain't like that.
I said, I hate that I put myself
in that situation, but Gil, when I say I blacked out, I ain't like that. I said, I hate that I put myself in that situation.
But Gil, when I say I blacked out, I honestly did.
I forgot that I was at a game.
It wasn't until I got back because the security took me back in the hallway and they was talking to me.
And I could hear them talking, but I I'm still I'm highly agitated so at that point and I remember
just like there's like hey hey hey um you good you good you good and I'm thinking to myself why
y'all asking me am I good so I'm like as I'm calming down I'm like oh man I said oh man I
said man I done messed up I said my sister gonna. I said, my sister gonna see this.
I said, my brother gonna see this.
My kids gonna see this.
I said, man, at that point in time, I mean, the job,
it is what it is.
If they and Fox wanna move in a different direction,
they gotta do what they gotta do.
At that point in time, the only thing I'm thinking about,
my sister, my brother, and my kids.
I said, they gonna see this.
And I said, oh man, I said, oh my God. And I remember looking down at my phone and my kids i said they're gonna see this and i said oh man i said that oh my god
and i remember looking down on my phone and training everything is just like
i said man shannon you done messed up now at that point in time gill ain't nothing i could do
so if fox come in and say we want to go in another go in another direction which we ended up doing six months later. It is what it is.
Hey, I'm wrong.
I'm dead ass.
So I was wrong.
I handled it poorly.
And like I said, and I apologize to the Grizzlies and Dylan Brooks
because it shouldn't have got that way.
You know, I just said what I said.
I mean, I didn't think it was that bad, but okay, I get it.
I get it.
I'm a fan.
You know, I'm trash talking, going back and forth. But I but i was wrong i was wrong i should have just sat my ass down and that's what
i do now i go to the game hey hey bro how you doing they like hey uh i leave it i leave it alone
but hey gail like i said when people say they black out i believe them them. Gil, I completely forgot.
I could, honestly, I couldn't hear anything.
It was like I was at a game and like in the fourth quarter and I need to make a play and everything is hush.
Every football moment, Gil, everything was calm.
I couldn't, all those fans, I couldn't hear a thing.
calm. All those fans,
I couldn't hear a thing.
And then all of a sudden,
I heard guys talking. I could hear John
talking at that point in time
and everybody came running.
And then I'm like,
boy,
I ain't got nobody
with me that's going to squabble.
I said, boy, I'd give anything
to have my boy.
If I had Burns,. I said, boy, I'd give anything to have my boy.
If I had Burns, if I had Bucket,
I'd be good right about now. I said, I'm by myself.
I said, oh, well, it is what it is.
I said, but boy.
By that time, I hear T.
I was like, bro, y'all not going to do nothing.
Y'all doing all that talking ain't going to do nothing.
Then T says, I will.
Who said that?
Everybody's like, who said that?
So man, and so after I done
calmed down, we came out there. He said, man,
let me talk. He said, let me talk to you. I said, man, what's up,
T? He said, bro. I said, what
we doing? I said, bro, I don't know what we doing.
I said, but bro,
I'm glad you came and
talked to me because
you grown, I'm grown. I'm glad we came and talked to me because you're grown. I'm grown.
I'm glad we handled the situation.
I said, bro, you can't say you're going to.
And when I'm in that state, you can't say you're going to do something
because I'm going to need to see it.
I mean, it is what it is.
I'm going to have to see it.
I think you need to put those 170s down.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, Gil.
Gil, real talk.
Had I been in the league, oh.
And that's what I'm saying.
When you at 35, you ain't got to worry about none of that.
I can tell you this.
I've never Jay-Z'd.
I never blacked out, ever.
Right?
I can tell you this.
If shit gets a-popping, I got to know where to run.
Hey, I'm not even lying.
Somebody sent me a DM and said,
I remember talking to you in the mall.
Yeah, I was talking to you in the mall,
and a fight broke out, and you bounced and left the mall.
Yeah, that's me.
God damn it.
Yeah, I'm out of there.
My feet work.
Very well.
No, Gil, for the most part, Gil,
I've never really been a fighter.
I've always tried to defuse the situation.
Like when I was in college, I was the guy, look,
I've always been the leader.
And so I've always, you know,
I've always tried to get my, keep my guys under control,
even on the team.
And I know guys more times than not,
the guys on the team,
they're probably going to be able to eat,
beat the college average college dude.
Not always,
but for the most part,
but I know how my guys are.
So if one of them fighting and they losing,
they're going to jump in.
Yeah.
And so for me,
I always try to defuse a situation.
Like even if I saw one of my teammates talking to a young lady and I know she had a boyfriend, I'm like, bro, let that go, man.
Yeah.
Man, bro, let that go.
I say because if somebody was talking to your girl,
you'd feel some type of way.
I know you.
So let it go.
Give that man his respect.
You know, we at the game.
You know, we at somewhere.
We're not going to do that.
We're going to be respectful. Now, hey, if they break up, but know, we at somewhere, we're not going to do that. We're going to be respectful.
Now, hey, if they break up, but nah, bro,
just because you on a football team and you this, you that, let that go.
We don't need that.
We don't need them kind of problems because if something go down,
T5, we're going to ride.
Ain't nobody finna ride.
Ain't nobody on the yard, not the campus, not the cues, not nobody,
not the basketball team, the baseball team,
no other team gonna mess with us. We knew that.
Yeah. So let's
just, hey, we gotta keep the peace, bro.
We got to go to school here. And I
don't want to be having to look over my back.
You know, even when the guys came out the city,
there's a situation where guys came out the city.
Well, hell, I'm, you know me,
I got a whip, Gil.
So I'm all at the car wash. I'm on 37th and Bull. I'm all over. I'm at the barbershop. I'm you know me I got a whip Gil so I'm all at the car wash I'm on
37th and Bull I'm all over I'm at the
barbershop I'm on the west side
bro they catch me sniffing because
of some foolishness that y'all did
nah bro we're not finna do that
so I've always been a guy to keep
the peace now hey
I'm gonna try to say hey bro hey let that go
man you know
sometimes guys like man man, forget that.
You know, he's saying this.
Hey, bro, bro, I'm trying to.
Hey, if I turn this pit bull loose, he go.
So that's how I am, Gil.
Now, as I got older, like I said, man, that was honestly in my.
That might be one of the worst moments of my life because I put myself in a situation I should have never been in.
Because once he said what he said,
I should have let it go.
But you know,
I'd be like, oh, shit.
Yeah.
I never got to worry about that.
Trust me, God damn it.
Nah.
Just hang out with us.
Hang out with me, young boy.
We'll be, listen,
we'll be running together. Now, come on. We got, come be, listen, we'll be running together.
Now, come on.
Come on.
I'll be pushing you.
I ain't going to lie, Gil.
I ain't got too old to run.
The Eps ain't going to let me run.
Then we can walk real fast.
Hey, Gil, we got to make a stand.
We got to make a stand, Gil.
We got to be, hey, hey.
Make a stand.
I'm the first one to get hit.
Always go for the weak one to get hit. Always go for
the weak link.
Oh, yeah.
That's what I'm telling you guys.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
I put myself, as old as I am,
that's the first time I hadn't been,
I mean, I hadn't even been in an argument
probably since
had to be in my
early 30s I got into with a guy at the barbershop
because he was talking some stuff
that he shouldn't have been talking.
And that was the only time I said, bro,
I said, if somebody want to know something about me in here,
they can ask me.
They don't need you repeating what happened
at Savannah State, bro.
Man, I said, all I'm saying is, hey,
keep me and my kids out your mouth.
That's all you got to do.
I'm done with it.
I said, bro, you ain't finna talk to me to death now.
What you want to do?
It's simple as that.
If you're not finna talk to me to death, what you want to do?
I hope he said, well, shit, I was planning to talk to you to death because I ain't got no.
Nah, he left and didn't come back.
Smart man.
See?
I don't think he ever came back to the barbershop.
Hell nah!
There's a bit of a loop in that barbershop.
I'm going to the one around the corner.
Nah, but like I said,
he said some stuff about my kid.
I don't play about my kid. First of all, it ain, he said some stuff about my kid. I don't play about my kid.
First of all, ain't none of your business about my kid.
So I just like, hey, let that ride.
On the fifth day of the on-gun feud, Nikki invoked Rihanna to claim that Megan tried to force sympathy on herself as a victim of violence.
She also refuted that she encouraged her fans to approach or desecrate the gravesite of Megan's late mother.
Nikki speculated that Megan's management company, Rock Nation, has launched a smear campaign against her and accused Megan of seeking sympathy and controversy to boost her career. It's so obvious she wanted a Rihanna moment so bad, referencing the Chris Brown 2009 assault on Rihanna
in which her interview with ABC right after.
In April 2022, Megan discussed being shot by rapper Tory Lane.
Nearly two years prior, with Gayle King on CBS Morning,
Nikki implied that Meg Thee Stallion can't succeed without provoking her.
What's your thought?
Have you heard the beef?
One cow,
Nikki came out with Bigfoot.
I guess it's in response to Megan's hiss.
So I,
so what's,
what's your take on,
what's your,
what's your,
what's your take on that?
When it comes to just female,
just female rap as,
as a whole i don't like the industry because there's only three or four and the fact that there's only three or four wives are always
beefing why do everyone want to create a beer with the three or four like i i came up with the
missy elliott era where where they had songs Night, where you had all the greats get on there and they put great music.
So the fact that all the rap women are beefing or they're linking up the beef kind of just stops you from wanting to just be a fan of female rap.
just be a fan of female rap.
Mm-hm.
Right?
So because of like,
let me know when Cardi B,
Nicki, and Megan Thee Stallion get on a song together and
put some great music in.
Right?
Yeah, but the fact that it's
only three or four of y'all and
the four of y'all is all beefing,
I'm cool on the situation, right?
They're gonna have ins and
out on each other and from there,
we're just gonna be listening to
just listen, right?
At the end of the day,
we don't care.
No, man, we don't care.
I mean, this big foot,
little foot, right?
I mean, she's sick.
Yeah, yeah, but she's I mean, she's six. Oh, yeah, yeah.
But she's stacked up, though.
No facts.
I wouldn't mind.
Man, hey.
Listen,
like... Last time I seen something
stacked like that was a long time ago. I was in the library
to add books.
It was summer. It was stacked up. The one you the library to add books. It was summer.
It was stacked up. The one you're supposed to
get and read for the summer.
I'd rather them make music
together than beef. That's how I look.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I don't even like the
guys beefing. I mean, look, I understand.
I mean,
you know what? I think, look,
I go back when LL
and Moe D
dropped a diss track, and then you
got Ether, and you got No Vaseline,
and you got, I think, KR
is one.
Him and Boogie Down Production, they
dropped one.
LL had another one with Cannabis.
Yeah.
I mean, I can do without it.
I mean, I get it.
But as a musician, it's just like sometimes in the NBA, right?
We wish we'd seen certain matchups.
We wish we'd seen Kobe versus LeBron in the championship, right?
The history, we didn't get to see
that history, right?
Prince and Michael Jackson doing
some type of collaboration, right?
There's just music that these
greats, because they're beefing,
we as fans get them, we miss out
on it, because some of the best artists
when they collab, shit is fine.
Yeah, and y'all can't get mad
if somebody else comes to the table and starts
hating on them because they knew.
I mean, I'm like, damn, let them
get this bread. Look, there's enough
money out here for all of us to make.
No matter what genre, no matter what
field that you're in, if you're
an actor, you're an entertainer, you're a rapper, you whatever the case may be, you in podcast, enough money for everybody.
And I don't have to talk about you to bolster my career.
I mean, I don't get anything out of that.
It's the female rap, man.
It's just something about like they just want to keep the beef alive.
And, you know what I mean?
I'm like, the Missy Elliott is where I,
like, where's that?
Where's that connection?
Like, you know, it ain't it.
Thoughts on the rumored relationship
between Dre Michelle and Jalen Green.
Joe Budden called her a predator.
I don't know, Listen, for me personally,
I don't know a whole lot about her. I mean,
I know she dated, what's the guy
from the Cowboys?
Oh, Orlando
Skandrick. I think they have a child together.
But that's about the extent of what I
know about her. I
ain't into that kind of,
I don't really go that deep into it.
Ah, damn, Gil, why you up there got a stone?
Ah, damn.
Ah, this is both of them.
No, stop.
Man, Gil.
Gil, this man set up his stone face
out here talking so you know a lot about him.
Hey, this is your research, Chief.
I'm researching.
I'm over here thinking, man, yeah, you know.
Hold on, this ain't Megaworld size.
Hey, they up here talking about Megan Ware size man 13.
I don't care if she got
a 15. I'll take them here. I'll take
the bro. If she wear teals, I'll take
a round of them off her.
I know
a little something, something, something.
No.
So what's going on?
What's your look? Me personally
do 21.
I mean, we all have. I look age about 40 ain't old no 40 is not old but hey when you 19 like your boy was hey
idiot what it is you know she's gonna throw when she's 39 right 39 yeah yeah just 39 okay 39 ain't nothing wrong with that. The real problem for a lot of women who's, you know, that's dated very successful men with money, right?
When nobody their age wants them anymore, because they don't have a wife, they married, they done did this.
The only way you survive is to go
backwards, because the only people
that's going to take you serious is
someone who don't know you or
someone that idolizes you.
So some of these older women that
has names that are famous, right?
The men in their age group know them, we famous, right? The men in their age group know
them. We could, right?
The young people who's looking through the
magazines, like, oh,
it is you.
They appreciate that woman.
So yeah, it might look
sideways, especially if it was
man, the older,
the man is older and the woman younger.
Yeah, that'll look frowned upon.
I mean, the real question is, what the fuck
are y'all talking about?
39 and 21, but I'm sure
that, you know, hey, you know,
do what we gonna do.
But for the most part, like,
those women really ain't got no
outsource, in a
sense. Nobody their age wants them,
so it's the people that's going to
make them feel like they're wanted
will be the younger generation of
men.
That's why some of these older
women are coming back.
Coming back and like, hey,
young fella, be in the club.
You want a PlayStation?
Yeah, yeah.
I got a little Xbox,
little Xbox, little Xbox.
Customs for you.
Right.
But look, at this point in time,
I'm sure they know who she is.
I'm sure even if you're
21, you probably
know some of the guys
that she's been with. And that's not
a knock. Because if you're a professional
athlete,
women might not know all the women
because it's not, you know,
because like, I mean, for this topic,
I looked and saw that she had dated.
I was like, well, damn.
But guys are a little bit more secretive.
And so a lot of the people that,
I don't know if you want to call it date,
you know, smash and dash
or whatever the case may be, guys try to keep that stuff on the hush.
But when you're a female, it's kind of hard because the word's going to get around because guys talk.
Guys have turned into broad these days.
Because when I grew up, that thing was hush.
You ain't kiss and tell.
You didn't know.
I mean, but now, bro, why I care? Man, you know, hey, man, you know I mean but now bro why I care
man you know hey man you know I used to
okay bro
you ain't messing with the nice
you with me now so
that's the athlete that's the young
young kids now like shit there was girls
that I know that they got three or
four dudes on the same team
flow
flow eight flow three,
flow 12, right?
And that's just the facts.
But these young generation kids,
just like when we was young, right?
We're looking at these women like
in his world, this is probably one
of the finest women that he's ever seen.
Right?
So, to him, the pants don't matter.
Hey, Gale, I don't know about you, but I'm just trying to find one of the more jet centerfolds that I used to have stapled to my wall in college.
And I know they're probably about 70, but let me catch one slipping.
Listen, we used to be in there like, hey, that's Pinky at the game.
Pinky from the four in the L.A.? Shit, I'm going to go ahead and take a, that's Pinky at the game. Pinky from the board?
Hell yeah.
Shit, I'm going to go ahead and take a shot at it.
We don't care.
Yeah.
We don't care.
Like, you know what I mean?
We don't care, man.
Right.
And that's where he's at.
Like, at the end of the day, it's like,
I'm pretty sure whatever she's doing,
them 21-year-olds his age ain't doing.
And that's her advantage.
Right?
Because she's happy to be there.
Right?
She knows she's been there before.
She knows how to play her role.
She knows how to, like, make him feel like a man and make him feel important versus a girl his age.
Right.
Think it's about her.
Yeah.
Yeah. And the thing is, is like a female, it's kind of hard for a female to be with an athlete and ever go back to a common guy.
It's not and I don't mean common, I'm saying, but once you get to that lifestyle of being and being able to go places that that guys that work nine to five or that's not a professional athlete.
So don't take this the wrong way.
I don't mean common. But what I mean, if you're a professional athlete, you have access to things that guys that work nine to five, that's not professional athletes.
That's not a celebrity.
That's not an entertainer.
Doesn't have access to.
So once a female is gotten accustomed to that
or been in that, it's hard.
That's why, man, she was with such and such.
She was with this rapper.
She was with this NBA player.
Where does she go?
Because she's gotten accustomed to dating a guy
that can give her a lifestyle.
So she needs that lifestyle.
It ain't even that she needs it.
She's going to get the offer in it.
No, she's going to get the offer in it.
For sure.
What is the Harvey?
What's her name?
Lauren Harvey.
Right.
We know who she dated, right?
She can walk into any locker room and say, hey, man, who want to date?
Who want to date me? Go to all 30 locker rooms.
You're going to have five to nine dudes raise their hand.
Yeah. Her women like that, that look like that.
They options are limitless long as they look good because the younger generation looks at them
like idols. The people their age is like, nah, we good on that. Somebody who's younger, that's like,
oh my God, that's her. I want her, I got the money, let me go ahead and take my shot.
So women like that are gonna always put themselves in position to find younger men, right?
If you wanna call it predator, because they will do that to us.
They will do that to us.
But in reality,
there's not one man in here
that's young that won't take
an older woman.
It is different.
Older women treat you well.
The older women seems creepy.
That's just, I guess,
that's how it looks.
Look, I mean, look,
it's not a situation I can
see if she's 35
and she got a 13-year-old. She's a 16-year-old.
Man, do a 21.
Do know what he doing.
You know what he doing, Gil.
You know what he want. I mean, even at 19,
I knew what I
was doing. And I
knew her age. And I thought it was kind of cool
you on a young shit
you just got to be careful on your
wordage
you know
you can't say ma'am
there's just certain shit you just
can't say you know being young
and she older you know what I mean
I call a miss I was calling a miss I couldn't
have it
I couldn't have it.
I couldn't.
I mean, Gil, I'm from the South.
And so a lady that's older than you,
I don't care if it's only three, four years.
Yes, ma'am.
Miss.
Yeah.
So I feel kind of good. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of good.
I like that.
Oh, man.
You got a feeling all bad in here. You know, you would feel it all bad.
You know,
you won't be long,
man.
When I say she old hook.
Ah,
she loved it.
Hey miss.
Yeah.
They say it again.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Leo.
They say bitch.
Cut.
Start.
Yo,
get them beat A, D.
Damn.
Shit.
Man, what's wrong with him, man?
I hate when people make it real difficult.
So I'm going to go
I mean, he got his daddy legs this week. So I'm going to go... I mean, he got his daddy legs this week.
So I'm going to go Embiid.
I'm going to go Embiid. I'm going to start Embiid.
I'm going to bench Jokic.
I'm going to cut AD.
Yeah, I'm going to
start Jokic.
Embiid, he's got stomach
issue or he's got knee issue. I'm going to bench Emboke and bead. He's got stomach issue or he got knee issue.
I'm going to bench and bead AD.
I mean,
that was, I mean,
you got to, you got
to like make it Luca.
You know, you got to make it somebody, you got
to make it somebody really, really difficult.
You got to make it Luca. Make it Jason Tatum.
Yeah.
Somebody like that.
Florian Carlos Suba said,
Aunt Gil Wilbon versus Stephen A., Ocho, and McCants.
Three on three basketball.
No make it, take it.
First to 21, who wins?
Me, you, and Ocho?
Me, you, and Ocho?
No, it's me, you, and Wilbon versus Stephen A., Ocho me you and Ocho no it's me you and Wilborn
versus Stephen A
Ocho and McCann
alright look
you got McCann
I got Stephen A Smith
we gonna let Ocho
just get dizzy out there
trying to use his speed
man I
whoo
man y'all need to cut that down
to like first to five
cause we ain't gonna
ever get to 21
now listen if you said if y'all set to cut that down to like first to five because we ain't gonna ever get to 21 listen if y'all set some screens
get your boy open
oh yeah we can do that
oh we can do that
ain't no running down
I'm thinking about my old shooting
before I did that 12 to 25
yeah we gotta cut that down
make it to seven make it to seven
make it to seven
you gotta deal
that is senior night I ain't play all year and they calling my name
to get in the game that's how I feel right now
Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said
hey Gil
if you could pick any NBA player
past or present
to be your teammate for a two on two
street basketball game
who would it be your teammate for a two-on-two street basketball game,
who would it be and why?
Two-on-two street basketball game.
Ooh, I would go with...
Man, you're taking Jordan to Kobe.
Man, stop over there like you pondering.
Street basketball?
Yeah.
You're right.
I'm going to take just... You're right.
I might take James Harden in that style.
Or Kyrie.
Or Jordan to Kobe?
And Street, but are we just playing street basketball
or we got to do the tricks and stuff
or are we just playing regular basketball?
You're playing blacktop basketball
like we grew up playing.
Yeah, I just want to say Shaq,
but I'll take Jordan.
What about KD?
Them outside rims, man.
I know he's a sniper, but
are we playing on double rims?
Are we playing with the chain fit?
It becomes a thing.
Right.
Asador D said,
can we say Doc is
NBA version of Mike McCarthy?
Both won one ring years ago, but
can't get past the second round of the playoffs.
I mean, it's facts, man.
I mean, it's facts.
Like, I had to really look.
Like, look, when people say, why is Doc where he is?
Doc has done something that a lot of people just don't do.
He's made connections.
He's made connections. Mm-hm. He's made friends.
He's understood the survival by
friendship.
Yes.
By connecting himself with people
who are important,
people who have connections.
So when he's trying to go places
and get places,
he can call in favors and friends.
Right, can't knock him for that,
right?
I want to be in situations like
that.
So when we question his resume,
his real resume is his friendship.
And for some people,
that's what matters.
The loyalty that he has with
his friends, and
they're paying back that.
So yeah, we're going to kill him for his resume.
It's his resume that's behind the scenes that he has.
Somebody in the chat said they're going to take Kyrie in a street basketball.
Yeah, man, he got that street game.
He got that street game.
He got that street game.
He got that street game.
Please explain to me why Doc River has a job
and a choke more than Miss Nasty B
with all them diamonds.
I mean, Gil just told you.
Gil said he's made connections.
And like I've met Doc,
I mean, like I said,
I don't really know the intricacies
of what goes on behind the scenes,
so I'm going to take Gil.
Gil knows all that.
But he's engaging.
He has a conversation.
He knows the game of basketball, and he's an easy talker.
He can talk, and he's very relatable, very personable,
make you feel like you've known him your whole life.
I guess
when we're talking about
friendships, when we're talking about just life,
who we know, our friendship
is better than
our resume that we have.
Right.
When we make people feel good about
themselves,
they're willing to put us in positions with the power that they have and that's that's what doc
so i'm expecting his son to be in position at some point to to get a chance to coach too wow
uh we're gonna take a few more questions my boss is uncoached jay my boss is pushing me at work to
be a leader be in a leader position.
I'm honored, but I don't think I'm a leader. He says, when I speak,
people listen, but I don't know.
Could you give me some advice on how to navigate any and deal with it?
Well, clearly your boss sees something that you don't.
And that's not an easy thing to do is to be a leader, especially, I mean,
it's a lot easier when you're younger because, you know, kids are impressionable.
And, and, but now as adults, adults can make up their own mind.
But that's really hard to say.
That's something that, I mean, I don't really know the people that you're around, but for your boss to have that kind of confidence in you, that should tell you something.
Yeah.
Like, you know, leadership is not about, like, dictatorship.
You know, real leaders are bringing the best out of everybody that they're leading, right?
So, you know, he feels that you probably can talk to people.
They listen.
They respect you.
And to be in that position,
you just have to understand when to push the envelope,
when to back it off, right?
So your job is basically to put everybody in a great position
to be successful.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
You got to know how to talk because everybody's not motivated by the same
tactics.
Like I would always say some guys,
you got a pat on the back.
Some guys,
you got to kick in the butt.
Some guys,
you got to tell a joke.
Hey man,
man,
my grandma could have called that one.
I'll be,
come on,
bro.
Hey bro.
Hey,
we all out here.
You getting paid too.
Now you got to check too.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
So that,
that's the thing is just understanding how to talk to people and talk to
people in a different type of way.
Uh,
Anthony boat.
Yo,
does,
does your Charlie Brown shirt have a man?
That's loose.
That's like, In the piano?
That's Latin.
What kind of unit?
No.
That's his real hair.
He ain't got no man unit on it.
I mean, that's his real hair.
Man, y'all know that man ain't got no man.
Y'all keep the bull job going.
Y'all keep the bull job going. Y'all keeps a boo job going.
Mr. Jock, what's up, 84 and Gil?
If guys had to get rid of one holiday,
and it's between Valentine's Day and Halloween,
which one would you choose and why?
Both involve candy and being with loved ones.
Man, Halloween don't involve being with no loved one unless you got kids.
Halloween for kids. But y' Halloween don't involve being with no loved one unless you got kids. Halloween for kids.
But y'all done hijacked the holiday.
How many times y'all,
man, we got a Halloween party, man.
I got this Halloween thing going on.
Grown folks done hijacked the holiday.
Now, they're not going trick-or-treating,
but they're dressing up more than the kids.
Oh, that's right.
And they're thinking about their costume.
I guarantee you, people are already
thinking about their 2024 costume.
They're looking to see what's the
hottest. Ooh, I will be this. I will be this.
Now,
that's for real.
But I'm going to get rid of Valentine's.
Hell yeah. Valentine's.
Because you agree.
Because, you know, we're going't spend money to get nothing in value.
Yeah.
Like, we didn't get nothing.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
If you broke and you can't get me what you need, like what you can afford, you got a friend, right?
You got two friends?
Gone.
Oh, you need to buy the luxury up
cause men
first of all men get the short end of the stick on
valentine's day
cause contrary to what y'all think women
that hoo-ha ain't worth 15 grand it ain't worth
10 grand it ain't worth 20 grand so I don't know
who told you that it was it's not
no
so you getting guys that
that you know they laying out three Birkins
or they buying you a whip or, you know, they got flowers coming
from Beverly Hills all the way up to Malibu.
And then they got a $25 a night room.
Yeah, we the guy.
You know what? Now that I think about it, Gil,
we get the short and the stick on every damn
holiday.
Mother's Day, the
mothers get way more than the fathers.
For Christmas, the mothers get
way, the woman get way more
than the man. Valentine's Day,
they get way more than the man.
When we go get a holiday, then we get to get one up. No, Day, they get way more than the man. When we gonna get a holiday
that we get to get one up?
No, no, no.
We do, we don't,
it's not a holiday.
We've been playing,
you know how,
you know how your girl
bring her friends?
Yeah.
And she expect you to pay?
Pay what?
Pay over a month?
You better get the hell
up out of here.
You better get
out of your home.
No, no, no.
You pay.
She got 12 friends?
That's 12 dates.
I've been very fortunate, Gil,
that the women that I date
is just like her and I when we go out.
I think I've actually only been out
with a date with a young lady
and her friends ended up like,
my friends are here,
you mind if we go there?
Probably since I've been dating
30,
38 years,
maybe two or three times.
You need to hang out with me.
No, I don't. Now we're here, you hang out with me. I don't.
Now we hear you paying for 12 people.
I don't.
Oh, no, because that's 12 girls.
I'm getting all 12 numbers.
All 12.
Hey, y'all see how I pay?
I laid this out, huh?
Y'all laid this out.
They auditioning.
They auditioning.
Sorry, baby.
You want me to pay for them? They owe me.
That's how we gonna do this. You don't want
me to, hey,
they see what I did for you. They don't want
the same thing. They don't want the same thing.
I'm gonna entertain it.
I'm gonna entertain it.
I don't even know how to talk to them like that.
Oh, easy.
Easy, huh?
You got the money.
Sometimes you just say the shit that come up.
I just say shit to see if it flies.
Man, Gil, I remember one time I was at Denver.
I was talking to this one chick,
and her girlfriend gave me her number.
I threw that in the trash.
I said, oh, hell no.
I ain't fit to start dancing.
I don't do friends.
I'm good on that one. No start there. I don't do friends. I'm good on that one.
No, man, I don't do that.
Oh, that's the South.
Oh, that's the South.
Friends and friends.
Nah, I'm good.
Come on, I can't
in good conscience, so
I'm cool with it.
And I know I've been
in situations where friends, they fill out and they know I've been in situations where friend they fell out
and they know I used to talk to one
what you doing you know she wasn't
baby I ain't like that baby
I ain't done come on now
whatever y'all got going on
you got me thinking that
I'm out here looking like a bad dude
you ain't no bad dude
I'm just saying I'm the here looking like a bad dude, huh? You ain't no bad dude. You just on, Gil.
I'm just saying, look, I'm the type of dude that
if I'm cheating on my girl and she walk in,
I'm not stopping.
Huh?
No.
She gonna walk in, Gil.
I mean, she got a key.
She know where you be.
I'm in her house or whatever.
She walked in. I'm going to finish because, look, my got a key. She know where you be. I'm in her house or whatever. She walked in.
I'm going to finish because, look, my brain already processed.
You walked in and you run out.
I already lost you, right?
Right.
Now, if I get up and I run after you, what's she going to think?
Damn.
So, no, I'm going to finish.
I'm going to keep going.
Oh, Lord have mercy. I'm not losing more for the same mistake. I'm keeping the one I'm going to finish. I'm going to keep one.
I'm not losing both with the same mistake.
I'm keeping the one I'm with.
So I'm just going to go ahead and finish.
I'm the type of guy I am.
I need some more water on this one.
Hold on.
Just a second.
Hey, listen, I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
I'm just being smart. You already caught me, right?
Now, if I get up
and chase you, I'll lose her too.
I lost two girls.
Oh, damn.
Yeah.
Yeah, Gil.
I admit, boy, I admit,
you couldn't operate it because you'd have me and some stuff.
You'd have me and some stuff.
Nah. You can't hang out with you.
Oh, yeah.
None of my teammates wise would hang out.
Oh, hell no.
I like, oh, no, I can't do that.
I'm just like, no, I don't do this.
OK, man, I know, you know, I got I got to get I got I gotta get wholesome
it's too late for that Gil
I gotta get wholesome
I don't see that happening anytime soon Gil
I really don't
I gotta get wholesome
it do get lonely sometimes
like on like a Thursday
you know
during the week or a Monday
it get lonely
out there. Yeah,
nah, Gil, I
I'm sorry.
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