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But, hey, but we're not done yet, Ocho.
What do we got?
Who we got?
Oh, oh, oh.
We got some people there.
Yeah, what's up?
Oh!
Look at all the, look We got some people. Yeah, what's up? Oh. Look at all the beautiful people.
We got the world record silver medal winning 4x4 mixed relay,
Vernon Norwood, Bryce Dedman, Kalen Brown, and Samir Little.
Hey, guys.
How y'all doing?
I'm good.
How are you?
We're doing amazing.
Thank you. Okay, Vernon, I'm going to How are you? We're doing amazing. Thank you.
Okay, Vern, I'm going to start with you as the elder of the state.
Qualifying. I mean, you run that
blistering time.
So tell me what y'all...
Yeah, we hear you, bro. You got us.
Yeah, I got y'all.
I'm a little new to this.
We got you.
Vern, I'm going to start with you.
You're the elder of the statesman here going into that did you guys think you could set the world record and qualifying or what was your
strategy going in obviously you want to qualify but did you think world record was a possibility
we already talked about it like before once we saw the lineup and the talent that we had
we was like oh yeah we world record gone because we knew world record was gonna win the race anyway
so we like we just go out there and do our thing i mean from me starting it off getting there to
shamir to bryce to kk i mean i already knew world record was gone so and then we heard y'all comment
about you know y'all coming out with this cash. I said, hey, they're coming out there. They're coming out there easy.
Look, look.
As soon as we crossed the line, I said, oh, yeah,
I'm going to hit them up right now.
Tell that boy, bring them up today.
Shamir, you had one of the outstanding games.
You run 40, 49 throughout in both of the mixed relays,
and then you come back and you qualify.
You run 49, and they thought the mixed relays. And then you come back and you qualify, you run 49.
And they thought so much of you.
They put you on the team that actually has the American record
and was just a couple of tenths off the world record.
What did that mean to you?
I know you were disappointed that you didn't make it into 400 hurdles,
but you still got an opportunity.
You won a silver medal and a gold medal.
What was your thought process going to Paris?
My thought process was kind of just like,
I don't want to give nobody any reason to feel like
or say that I didn't deserve to be there.
Like I didn't have the race or the meat that I wanted,
like from the outside looking in.
But to me, like I put on a good meat.
It's just the numbers that I put up was really good.
It's just some people had a better day than me.
So I just kind of, you know, shook that off and moved forward.
And I felt like going into Paris, it was just like, oh, you know, we got to advance the team.
And I'm just thinking in the back of my head, no, I'm advancing myself.
Like I need to make it to every single round and I'm going to run my butt off.
So it was just like every round I was going into it, I was just like, ain't no, ain't no such thing.
Ain't no holding back.
Like I have to qualify and I have to make it as far as I can.
Was it a situation you were thinking that I don't want to give them any reason to put someone else on this relay team and miss this opportunity?
Because I think at the end of the day, everybody wants to run the final.
We know that we have a couple of times.
Sometimes we have a couple of people that run qualifying rounds and they're going to get gold medals.
But when that American record, when they look at that, that's going to say Sidney McLaughlin.
That's going to say Shamira Little.
That's going to say X, Y, you know, know homes that's what it's gonna say yeah um dang i'm just like
it's so much depth in the 400 hurdle i mean it's so much depth in the 400 so you know anything is
liable to happen and i felt like you know even if i did run 40 line 49 low just how it was gonna play out
I may or may not be on the relay so I kind of was just like of course it was like that thought
process of thinking like what if they put somebody else and then it was shoot like what if they don't
like it's gonna be me yeah yeah that was uh Bryce Bryce Shamir has the baton to you and you take off.
You're like, man, we got this in the, I mean, we got this in the bag.
Or you like, hell no, we going for this.
Um, I mean, shoot, whenever I get the time, I was just all gas.
I mean, they took that.
I mean, they, they, they told us before we went into the race,
it was going to take a world record to win it. Um, I mean, they told us before we went into the race, it was going to take a world record to win it.
I mean, shooting, I just took off and did what I needed to do or do what I had to do.
Once I get the stake in my hand, I don't be thinking world record or how fast I'm running.
I'm just going. I kind of just like let my instincts take over and get the baton to the next person, which was Kaylin.
And she did her thing, too.
Bojo?
Listen, not only did we get the world record right so i i just have a question i mean when it comes to the four by four we often see
fierce competition in any sport there that there is i mean are there any team that you guys are
rivals with and was there any any banter or trash talk before the race that actually prepare you guys to
actually go and get this world record?
Or was it just,
is it always quiet on your end when it comes to the four by four?
For me?
No,
but I don't know.
Kind of,
kind of,
kind of,
kind of for everybody.
I'm not sure if the,
if you guys had that kind of banter with other teams and if you,
if there is a rival at all.
Right. Okay.
The world record, but it was going
into the prelims. It wasn't
something that we was thinking about. It was just
our chemistry was good and we were just
focused on just executing so that the baton
never slowed down. And so
when KK came through and
I'm looking at the time last 15 meters
uh burning like that's a world record i'm looking i'm like oh goodness and then she crossed
oh yeah now bernie was thinking about oh man oh i'm saying he got that
matter of fact you know what i i i'm i'm curious is trash talk and track is that frowned upon i mean
you gotta save your energy i feel like it used to be a thing i hear stories like back in the day
like people used to talk like the jumpers or whatever i think now right it's just more kind
of like let the uh let let what you're doing on the track speak for itself.
Like, I don't have to be going back and forth with somebody like in high school.
Y'all know y'all talk to me. I'm in high school. I know we talk.
Oh, y'all have to win this one. Who? Ain't nobody winning this.
Not not with not with sharp in here. Y'all ain't winning.
Some people definitely be talking for sure um some people for sure be talking especially before the races um or
leading up to the races i mean but everyone is different uh some people talk some people don't
some people be in their own zone some people love talking going into a race in a little heat up area
it it really just all depends. Yeah.
Caitlin, let me ask you a question.
In the last, you didn't, obviously you won,
you got the world record.
You didn't win, you didn't win the gold medal.
Is there anything you could have done differently to help this outcome not be what it was?
What do you wish you could have done differently?
Nothing.
Honestly, I went out there and I ran my best.
And even in the finals, I ran faster than the prelims.
So I feel like every time I step out on the track, I just give it my all.
And I feel like it played out perfectly.
Whether we won silver or gold, we just, we did it.
We did the thing.
You know, a lot of times, a lot of times, guys, we see like Shamira,
like let's just say you run against,
obviously you're not in a fast heat in the hurdles.
You're going to run just fast enough to win the race and save some of that energy.
I know Vernon, you, and Bryce, y'all do that a lot in the 400 meters.
You're not trying to go out there and run 43 every race,
qualifying semifinals and then drop another 43 in the finals.
So you're trying to conserve some
of the energy was that ever thought process like man we got a 30-minute lead let's back this down
some and save for tomorrow no i think i think it just we just went off the vibe like the energy
in that stadium was like electrifying so we were just like we were just running at that point like
we weren't honestly we weren't really thinking about the world record in that moment.
We knew eventually it's going to happen because that's where it's going to take the win.
But throughout the race, we were just running.
And I'm looking at KK running.
I'm like, oh, man, we might break the world record right now because I got the stick.
I'm watching the whole race.
I'm like, damn, we're actually sliding right now.
And I'm looking at the clock.
I'm looking at the time.
I'm like, damn, we might hit a world record.
Then I tell you, I said, oh'm looking at the clock. I'm looking at the time. I'm like, damn, we might hit a world record then. I said, oh, world record gone.
So we like, in the process, we like, we just running.
And you don't really feel like you're gassing it that much.
And then afterwards, you know, you got to do it again the next day.
But that's what we trained for, though.
Guys, did y'all know Bryce that when he got back to his room,
he DM'd me about run me my money
yes
that man DM'd me
who told him Bryce
who told him Bryce
I don't know
no
no
I said tell him
I heard y'all talking about it one time No, you don't. No, I said, tell me.
I heard y'all was talking about it one time on the show.
I was like, man, hold up now.
Let me see them boys come through that word.
I'm like, them boys from around the way.
So I know they're going to come through.
And then y'all actually came down.
I'm like, Danny, y'all some real ones, man.
And then there's a mutual friend.
He hit up a mutual friend and said, man, I'm trying to get an uck.
I don't know if he's going to see my DM. Hey, it's all love.
Y'all come down to Fair Roots.
I got y'all.
No, guys, we just want to show you guys some love.
The crew at Nightcap here, myself and Ocho, and all of our subscribers and listeners and followers.
Man, we wanted to show you guys that we really appreciate what you do,
the hard work, the sacrifices,
the time away from your family,
the times that you don't feel like training,
that you go out there and you push yourself
farther than you ever thought you could.
And so for us at Nightcap, it was easy
because to run a world record,
that means everybody contributed.
Everybody did their part.
And we want to hear at nightcap wanted to say,
thank you.
Yeah.
Not only,
not only for your effort,
but for what you've given before that race,
because the race is the easy part.
The hard part is the training up to the race.
And so from us,
from the bottom of our heart here at nightcap,
thank each and every one of you.
Every last one of you.
Thank you.
Make sure y'all get some McDonald's with that money now.
Man, Bernie, the way Bernie hit me,
I'm burning money.
Nah, I ain't rocking like that, man.
I'm chilling, I'm chilling, I'm chilling, I'm chilling, man.
So if anybody's season continues? Shamir, Bryce,
Kaitlyn, Vern, is anybody
going to the... I think there are a couple of Diamond League
meets left. Is anybody's season
going to continue, or are you going to shut it down
and start gearing up for... Is anybody going to do
indoor, or everybody's just waiting to do
the Worlds next year in September? I actually
leave tomorrow, so I'm
in between packing and
getting ready and i'm gonna be over there for like a month i gotta i'm finishing off in the
so i'm going back to the 400 hurdles and i'm gonna do a couple of diamond league meets leading up and
do the final okay so we almost there this is the the the third half of the season final straight
i'm hitting the road monday we going to la zone so i'm gonna finish out the season. Final stretch. I'm hitting the road Monday.
We going to Lausanne.
So I'm going to finish out the season with the Diamond League meets.
Cause I just like competing and I'm a little bit behind on my racing.
So I'm still trying to chase some things I need to accomplish for this year.
So you definitely go see me on the road.
I'm trying to go.
Come on now.
Come on now.
I'm not in no diamond leaves right now
I leave for a meet in Berlin
and another meet in
Switzerland next week so I'll be doing
that and same as Vernon
I'm trying to chase something for this
season and wrap some stuff up for
the upcoming season
next year
I think you're still in school right
I have a whole collegiate season again
so I got to sit down and relax
Shabir
I'm going to get you out of here on this
you said
watching you at the US trial
and you run the four
and the hurdles
and I thought I was like damn she ran good so she's ready why did you continue to run the four and the hurdles. And I thought, I was like, damn, she ran good, so she's ready.
Why did you continue to run the 400 knowing that you had the 400 hurdles
and it was going to probably be difficult given the field?
Why not just run one race and shut it down knowing that, like, I'm fit,
I'm ready, I'm good?
I mean, I came in there and I was like, you know, I just want to run one race.
And then I ran so well, just considering kind of how my season was going leading up to that.
And I just had a moment with my coach.
I'm excited.
He came to me.
He like, uh, we can go all the way.
And I was like, I think like, yeah, like we could go all the way.
Like he believes I'm one of the best 400 runners in the world. I believe I'm one of the best 400 runners in the world.
I believe I'm one of the best 400 runners
in the world. You are. I am.
Shoot.
Why not?
We just went for it.
Wow.
Again, Vern, you're going to stay
with us. Shamira, Bryce, Kay,
thank you so much. We're proud of you
here at Nightcap. Continued success in your season. You got another month, Shamira, Bryce, K, thank you so much. We're proud of you here at Nightcap. Continued success
in your season. You got another month,
Shamir, Bryce. You got a couple of me.
K, go join. Hey,
take some time off because the collegiate season
is long, and then you got the trials,
and then you got the world.
So you need to rest.
So take some time off. Enjoy that.
Hey, I know you haven't spent
your money like Vern has cause I know
Vern pocket man that money put a
hole in Vern's pocket
hey look
man
so guys
congratulations we're proud of you here
as I said guys continue success
we'll see you down the road again next year
maybe we know I'm gonna go out and solicit
some sponsors to help me put this bill next time.
Y'all got to put a look at some of these too.
Y'all for sure got to put a look at some of these.
You know what?
I'll tell you what we'll do. We'll come to the trials.
Yeah.
We'll come to the trials.
Wait, wait, wait. What is that?
What is that?
It's going to be a Eugene.
Oh, Spirit.
Spirit.
Southwest. It's going to be a Eugene. Oh, yeah. Spirit. I don't know.
Okay.
Southwest.
Southwest do.
Okay.
The Texas.
Oh, okay.
When is the Texas relay?
Texas relay is in like March.
We got to come down Relays that come down
to the Baton Rouge, though.
I can't promise you about the Texas Relays.
I can't promise you that one.
And what's the one that they run at the beginning of the year?
And the Penn Relays.
I can't promise. I like them.
I want to go to the Penn. I can't promise you that.
But I promise you, we'll be at the USA.
Okay, good. We'll see y'all.
We'll do that. And I don't know, me and Ocho, we'll be at the USA. Okay, good. We'll see y'all out there. We'll do that. And you all know, me and
Ocho, we might have cash out there this time.
Okay. Yeah.
For that cash.
Right, right, right.
Y'all doing it.
I'm good.
Y'all boys doing it, man.
Alright, guys.
Congratulations. Bird, you're going to stay with us a little while longer
Bryce, Shamira, Kay
thank you so much
continue success and we'll see you guys
alright
goodbye
what's up
okay
you're going to run
you ran the second leg
go ahead go ahead I got it
Vern you're gonna run second leg
okay you get
Bailey leaves this thing off
now you know
Botswana
and you know who they got on anchor
and you know the Botswanans
they normally bring
I think they had a 400 meter runner McQuala the OG So I don't even go, and you know the Botswanans, they normally bring,
I think they had a 400-meter run on McQuala. Yeah, McQuala, McQuala the OG.
Yeah, yeah, so I'm very familiar with Botswana.
The Bahamian team, with Chris Brown, they normally bring a contingent.
So there are certain teams that when they're in the race,
you know you better be on your best behavior.
So Bailey comes out in 44 and 44.5.
You get the baton.
Tell me what's going through your mind because he's a little behind the Botswana kid.
Well, leading up to that race, you know, me and Rob was talking about it.
About like, you know, we knew Botswana was going to give us a good chase.
Because we was in the back.
I don't know if you know this.
Tobago was second lane.
They kept switching.
So, in my head, I'm like, okay, I got to run the day.
Because I got Tobago and I got the silver medalist, Matt Huston-Smith.
Shout out to him.
So, I'm like, oh, yeah, I got to run the day.
And I'm just telling Chris, just give me everything you got.
I'm going to do my job.
I'm going to do my part.
And I already had it on my mind from the day before when we qualified
it was
they thought things
were just sweet
because it was like
oh we barely got through
I'm like
tomorrow will be a different day
right
I know Chris get the stick
I'm on second leg
second leg
normally not my leg
I'm usually like
a first or third guy
preferably
but I can run any leg
man I get the stick man
I know Matt
go do his thing
I say alright
I'm going to just run my race
and we know I'm coming off
by about 250, get to about
120, I start kicking.
That's when I'm like, I give out the stick to Bryce. Bryce
do his thing. I said, oh yeah, now we got a race.
Now we got a race. I think that's
probably one of the most electrifying races I've been a part
of that 4x4. It was
because you know,
I go back a little farther to you.
I got kids your age, Vern, so I go back a little farther to you. I got kids your age, Vern.
So I go back a little.
There haven't been very many 400 meter men that's come down.
I think in 2016, maybe 16, I think Chris Brown ran Angelo Taylor down and we ended up getting a silver medal in that.
But for the most part, if we don't drop the stick stick, ain't nobody beating our 5-4 men because we dominate
the 400, although we haven't won
the open 400 in a very
long time. You got to go back to 08,
Quincy Hall won in 2024, but you got to go all the way
back to 08. And so now
when Bryce
takes off and he gives that stick
to Ry, we had Ry on
and just Ry
and it's Tobogo.
What's going through your head?
Respectfully, I'm like,
Tobogo's going to die. He's going
against Captain America. I said, Tobogo's going to die.
I had some feeling that he was
going to die off at some point because
it might look like they was gliding, but they
really was going stride for stride.
And Tobogo got 19 speed rock and run 19
if he wanted to as well.
So I'm thinking about when Tobogo gets about 320,
he gonna start dying now.
But I'm still seeing Tobogo still stuck on him.
So if you see him watching,
my hands, my fist balled up tight,
standing there like, come on, rock.
Come on, rock.
I'm like, I'm tight as hell.
I'm like, come on, rock.
Come on, rock. And that song gets about 20 meters high. I said, oh, no, no, on, Rob. Come on, Rob. I'm like, I'm tight as hell. I'm like, come on, Rob. Come on, Rob. And I saw him
get to about 20 meters. I said, oh,
no, no, no, no. He crossed the line.
I said, oh, thank God. I was like,
hell yeah. I just ran to him. I don't know what I did,
but I just did something. I just threw my hand. I just
glided towards him, but he held it down
for us, man. Shout out to Rob, because
that was a big task for him to do, because he came
from winning his Olympic event
and coming in and holding it down for us because we was a bit short-handed.
You know, Quincy Hall.
Because Quincy was dealing with a little spasm in his hamstring.
But for Ry, and Ry has never run that fast in his life, but he had to.
I thought when Ry got the stick and to Bogo,
I thought he was going to put him under pressure right away.
I thought he was going to try to shoot past him.
But Rod said because he got out the first hundred,
Tobogo tried to just pace him.
You look at it, they was going stride for stride.
Stride for stride.
And I think Rod's IQ was so on point that day
because he knew he respect Tobogo's talent
and Tobogo respect his talent as well.
Tobogo would have been the madman he just shoot off like that if there was somebody else toboggan probably went for it yeah exactly like though somebody else he probably just they they just
got a single swim but throughout that race man i'm watching it man i'm telling you i was tight
on that side i'm like come on come on because you know boswana they dangerous we knew coming in
it was going to be boswana and Great Britain giving us a good chase
because they looked at us like a little shorthanded because a few of our top guys went down.
But that's just to show you how much depth that we have in the 400.
Because you look at it like last year, me and Bryce Bedman was doing the opening at World Budapest.
And this year, we're doing the relays.
So each year, you can get different.
That's how much depth we got.
That's how much depth we got. That's how much depth we got.
And we still got guys in the cut that's coming out
that's going to be back next year at full health.
You know, Michael Cherry, Will London,
all those type of guys coming back at full health.
So we got so much depth going into next year.
And like, we almost don't throw a record in there even.
Yeah.
That's what's so amazing.
But we was talking about it last year.
You're like, that was a record gone.
That was a record gone. That's what, why is that there? We was talking about last year, you're like, that one record gone. That one record gone.
That's what,
why is that there?
We was talking about last year
at Worlds in Booty Piss,
and I'm like,
but the thing is,
we got to put the right legs together.
Because like I said,
I preferably could do first or third.
I could give you 43 out the hole,
I could give you 43 on third.
Second leg,
just that leg,
just at that moment,
we needed a second leg. Rock couldn't run second, but he needed to be on third. Second leg, just that leg, just at that moment, we needed a second leg.
Rocker ran second, but he needed
to be on anchor. I told him
he needed to be on anchor.
Nobody could do the job
with you today. You know what I'm saying?
And he understood the assignment.
Grade A.
Vernon, do you know this?
This is the first time somebody other
than Americans has run sub-256.
I'm going to slide.
Shout out to Boss Farnham, boy.
I'm going to slide. And Great Britain. Great Britain ran
255 because prior
to that race, no
other team other than American had
gone sub-256. I'm
talking about the 256 that
they ran in Mexico City in 1968.
So you got two teams other than America go sub-256.
And I think next year might be a little bit faster
because you're going to get other teams back
that they full strength.
Like, we might get Jamaica back in the mix.
They can't see y'all.
I know they probably won't, but I'm just saying
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But here's the thing.
Would you ride, let's see, with all our guys,
if y'all run y'all best, y'all might can go sub 254.
Which is correct. My guys, if y'all run y'all best, y'all might can go sub 254. Man.
Which is crap.
If you go sub 254, just like that 1993, what Michael Johnson and Butch Reynolds and Quincy Watts and Andrew Vaughn, what they ran in 93 is Stugart.
This thing might stand for 30 years.
I think everybody at Full Health and Mike Marsh and Michelle Freeman
put together the right pieces in the right order,
that record's gone.
It was gone with what we had.
And I think that was a great team
that Mike Marsh and Michelle put together.
So shout out to them.
So they put together a good team
and put us in a position to win.
And we walked away with a limited record goal.
So we knew what's next.
Even for the women,
that women's record's definitely gone next year.
Yeah.
Oh.
And both of the 4x4 world records gone next year.
But here's the thing.
Y'all ran that with push.
They had a 30-minute lead.
If they'd have had any push, hey, they'd go and sub 315.
They might be 314.
Sub 314 with push.
Sydney ran 47-71
with no push Alexa Holmes
she had a 30 meter lead
and she runs sub 49
and the unique thing about that relay they only had
one 400 meter girl on them
Sydney 400 hurler Shamir 400 hurler
and Gabby is a sprinter
yes so that just
shows you how much like talent unique the
USA I mean we are Chico, man.
But it's nice to see that, too, though, the dynamic and the difference of how they can mix up the relays.
And we can still go out there and dominate.
Like, seriously, like, dominate.
You know.
Bro, you watch this thing from a distance.
You watch.
And Kendall Ellis, she won the trials.
And, you know, she tweeted that she was told that she was going to run
and then in the warm-up room in about four minutes before the race she's not on the relay team what
i mean as a as a as a runner as a competitor can you understand can you empathize with what she's
going through man i know she probably feeling you know death type of way how that went down
because at the end of the day you know i'm not sure about how much went into that situation and the communication that led up to that.
But, you know, me personally, if that, I mean, I would definitely feel some type of way, you know, because I didn't get the opportunity to at least run on the prelim round.
So for me not to run at all, definitely missing out on the medal and all that stuff.
So I would definitely feel a bit gutted
but also at the same time to put in perspective
like you know
they want to go out there and put the best
people out there in this best situation
versus whatever you do but
I mean shit
you can't complain
with the results
you got the fastest time by American women
in the history with no with Apingbo, with no Abinsteiner, with no Wilson.
You know, Apingbo can go sub-49.
Abinsteiner can go sub-49.
Wilson can go sub-49.
Yeah, in that situation, I'm just like, dang.
It's just one of those situations where I think it was just some miscommunication
that this wasn't
you know transpired in between
you know the coach and the athlete I'm not
sure too much what went on I'm not
too familiar on that situation but for me
I would feel very gutted for it just because
if that happened that way
and I not know and then boom you
change it up on me like that instead of just
you tell me in the beginning oh you might not run you might run
with the whoop.
Okay, I'm going to still be a professional
and be like,
I'm going to prepare myself
to run.
If I don't run, fine.
Good luck to everybody out there.
I'm going to still be
a team player, understand.
Because I've been on
multiple teams
and I've been on,
you know, relays
where I just only ran
the prelim and not the final.
And they put the people
out there and I'm like,
cool, I'm still,
still like get my medal,
still get the team.
I'm going to get that medal.
And I'm still a world champ. I'm going to call, I'm still, still like get my medal, still get the, I'm gonna get that medal. And I'm still world champ,
I'm gonna call it a day.
So that's just my,
mindset of,
you know,
being a professional,
but sometimes everybody
want that shine.
And then like,
like to be honest,
like I've been on what,
seven,
eight teams
this year and last year
was the first two times
I ran on the final
for the football.
Wow.
That just showed you the depth,
but at the end of the day,
I never complained.
Just waited my turn.
Did my thing
and I showed up.
But you got a bunch
of gold medals to show for it.
Showed up.
And I showed up
every time I get on the track.
And I tell people like,
man, once I get the opportunity,
it's over with.
And unfortunately,
I didn't get the individual this year.
Just wasn't ready on that day,
I guess.
But I'm still
running phenomenal time. i'm still going
at it right now so next year hopefully you know the goal always to get the individual spot but
the relay is fun man but really you could get cracking on the relay i've been telling people
like man yeah i'll play the relay the relay is really good like you really have some fun on the
relays man hey you know when it comes to the relays right and we think about the pressures obviously you guys in paris who's the person who's the personality that keeps everybody calm it has
to be somebody you know every every nfl team has a guy that that is game day but he keeps everybody
loose you know he keeps people laughing where it's not so tense who's the personality on on
the relay team or just the track
team in general that keeps things kind of even keel probably me because like i'm never serious
like i'm never mad i'm probably one of the most like i talk to everybody like i just just like
just to keep my nerves keep everything right so yeah i didn't be talking a little smack to like
even like no telling matt i said you're on second leg
I'm doing this to him
like telling him
put his seatbelt on
like we doing all this stuff
towards each other
you know
and you know
me and Rye
and all those other guys
we've been around each other
all
you know we was roommates
so we just in the room
vibing chilling
we just like man
this is the fun part
we about to go out there
and have fun
there's no pressure
besides the fact that
we gotta come where we go
we understand that pressure
being from USA
automatically.
Go with the bus.
And so,
there's us going out there
just on some chill stuff.
You know,
I'm keeping everybody laughing.
We made a bunch of videos,
a bunch of fun stuff.
I'm talking about like
hanging out
on the balcony.
Like, you know,
we doing our thing, man.
So,
I did my best job
trying to just make sure
everybody's just having
a good time and making the most memories at the Olympics game and shit. So, we had a our thing, man. So I did my best job trying to just make sure everybody's just having a good time
and making the most memories at the Olympics games and shit.
So we had a good time, man.
So, you know, you got some crazy stories, man.
We had a crazy time out there, dog.
Vern, you know you had uncharted territories.
Nobody has been able to run.
Michael Johnson won the Olympic gold in Sydney at 33
and I think he won the world championship the following
year at 33 and a half maybe 34
you're 32 years of age
and probably by the time the world rolls around
next year you gonna be 33
bro you know you
you in uncharted territory bro
hey man I gotta give a lot of credit
to my coach Dennis Shaver like he
developed me right into the athlete that I am.
Every year, these last couple of years, I've been improving so much.
And I don't know exactly how.
I do know how, but me just progressing and developing to the 400 run I am,
each year I'm getting faster and faster and faster.
So everybody looking at me like one of my boys' chair, he's like,
damn, you're giving me hope.
I'm 32, about to be 33 next year, and I'm still out here running elite time.
So, you know, who knows what'll happen next year.
I'm taking each year, year to year, you know.
And hopefully we make it to 28.
If we don't, hey, I have a hell of a run.
I have a hell of a run.
He was your coach
at lsu correct you still my coach yes sir he's with me so we still you know we still learning
as we go we're still developing and uh you know he did a great job with me so and we still working
towards everything we're doing and um you know i've just been consistent with staying in my realm
and doing what i do every single day, being consistent.
That's kind of carried me to how I am at this age now
because a lot of guys look at me like,
damn, you're 32.
Some people didn't know I was 32 and took trials
when I'm racing against Lil Quincy.
Somebody was like, I'm looking on TikTok.
Somebody said, damn, he racing a dinosaur.
I said, oh, man, I almost threw my phone out the house.
I said, oh, they talk like that.
They call me a dinosaur compared to Lil Quincy.
But nobody knew I was 32.
They was like, he thought I was like 26, 27.
Because, you know, I'm running well.
I'm moving well.
Right.
I was like, man, you know, this age thing ain't nothing but a number.
It's how you feel.
You know, because look at how you're hitting that high at that age.
Yeah, you see?
Yeah, yeah.
This is for Ocho, because Ocho
challenged me to a competition, so
I got to get right for Ocho. See, look, because
see, I had my ball. Everybody was like,
dang, he's losing his hair. I said, nah, man, I'm balled by
touch. I can still grow hair.
I saw Ocho talk about that.
He's talking, he grow hair, I can do the same.
Ocho, he can't grow no hair. I mean,
Vern, he can't grow no hair. Let me just say.
Vern, you know, Vern, as I started to get older, I started to get injured.
Yeah.
Because I was trying to run with the same intensity and the same volume.
And my body couldn't handle it.
Yeah.
And I couldn't understand until I got with a track guy.
And he said, as you start to age,
you can't run the same volume and the same intensity.
You can't do 20, 200 meter sprints at 30 seconds.
You can't do 25, one tens at 16 seconds.
You just can't Shannon.
So you're going to have to back it down.
Less volume, same intensity.
As you start to age, what has been the difference in your training?
Well, the training kind of been the same.
It's just more of my preparation leading up to training.
Like I'm seeing my chiropractor, Dr. John, like mostly some mornings just to get my body
moving well.
It's the preparation that leads me to train to get my body moving.
And then once I'm winding down after training, the cool down is how I'm setting my body up to get ready for the next day.
So I take my preparation and my cool down very, very, very seriously to get my body to move the way it move, because I have to do the exact same thing the next day.
And I think the athletes have to start understanding, you know, as you get older, you don't really have to do as much, but you need to do just enough.
But also find that tuning where it's like you need to keep your body moving well.
So you got to make sure your hips right, back right, all that type of stuff.
So I'm doing more.
I'm taking more emphasis on my preparation and my ending for as well.
I'm cooling down to help my body get ready for the next day because it's all about recovery at the end of the day.
So if you recover well and you get
back to 100% and go again the next day,
oh man, you're in great business. But you got
to have the right team and right understanding how your
body is because everybody's body is different.
Like, you know, some people could go
out there and go crazy in training
but, you know, the next day, how can they respond?
You see? Yeah. And that was
the thing though, Vern. That's what
was happening. Yeah, I could do it But it had taken so much out of me.
Now my next training session was suffering.
And so I wasn't. And then, you know, you try to push through it.
And next thing you know, my hamstring tweak, I've tweaked the groin, my adductors.
And I'm I'm just sore because I had put in so much stress on my body because in my head,
I'm not going to be the same person. If I don't come through with these times with the same level of consistency.
So burn,
what's your weight?
What's your,
what's your peak condition weight?
Uh,
right now I'm using like one 65.
That's my race weight.
One 65.
So I usually bounce between one 65 to one 70.
I don't ever get over 170 like sometimes when I come
into fall training my coach want me to be at least close to my race weight to like just to
go through training a little bit more easier than most because some people go into because you go
into fall training obviously you've been partying been doing your thing so you're going a little bit
heavy but at the same time you start hitting the workout get That lactic hit a little. That lactic hit quicker on that second and third rep. So you're like, hold on, man.
You start holding it.
So, like, most times, you know, that's when I like, you double working.
You trying to lose weight.
You ain't trying to get fit at the same time.
Try to come in, like, at least be close to your race weight.
Because you're going to gain a little bit from the weight training.
Because you do a lot of volume in the weight room.
But everybody got a different philosophy.
Because, see, I'm naturally slim lean.
So I'm never going to get over 1722 so i can always just get into fall training but you know but everybody have a different set but you know training for that 400 is different
like like people was like when i ran the 43 the the semi i find around the football folks
i'm like dang you got enough left i said i'm gonna show you i'm actually a little faster today
you know what i'm saying so
that fall training is different man you gotta really prepare yourself and your body because
you know it's gonna hurt that first month like you know people like oh you know you'll feel so
i don't even get massaged like that first two months because i'm like that soreness angle
a massage ain't gonna help that soreness i gotta grind that out right you know and um
you know you just gotta take care of that body man I got to grind that out. Right. You know, and, um, you know,
you just got to take care of that body,
man.
Got to take care of that body.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to have them resources.
So,
you know,
but I used to be between once,
like right now,
one 65,
I'm drinking by the water day,
beet juice.
I'm on it all,
man.
You ain't,
but you ain't eating no McDonald's.
Are you?
Oh,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
You hear that?
Hey,
man,
I ain't gonna lie to you. I don't know why I go to Europe. I get that McDonald's in are you? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. You hear that, Ocho? Hey, man. I ain't going to lie to you.
When I go to Europe.
I don't know why.
Now, look, I go to Europe.
I get that McDonald's in Europe, though.
You see?
You see what I'm talking about?
You see?
You heard?
It's a desperate night.
The food ain't really cracking or nothing.
I'm going to hit that McDonald's, man.
Desperate.
Ocho, desperate.
But I ain't hitting that McDonald's on a regular Ocho.
That's what I'm talking about.
See, you didn't hear what he said.
He understands his body.
He knows it works for his body.
So I'm talking about for my body, it works well.
Look, they call me Vito because we both ball, right?
I ain't getting that McDonald's, man.
I ain't getting that McDonald's like that.
And you go out there, eat McDonald's for a week straight,
and come out there and try to run that 400.
Boy, you're going to catch lactic.
I can.
I can. Because my body is immune to can. My body is immune to that.
My body is immune to that.
My race weight is like 220.
Hey, man. One thing I admire about you,
you got that confidence that God
talked about in the Bible. I respect that.
Yeah.
He doesn't challenge Noah.
He doesn't challenge Quincy.
He say you want Quincy and a hundred.
Hey, I challenged Vern on Twitter.
Hey, man, look.
I'm in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
We can set up a race right now at LSU.
You come down there, but you punked out, though.
Nah, I'm traveling.
I'm in New York right now.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm supposed to be in New York,
but I'm spending some time with the family
before I head out on Monday, man.
Go hit that road.
Get back to that money on.
Yeah.
Hey, man, somebody got to pay the bills,
man. I like competing,
though, man. I just can't sit around and
train too much, because once I'm in shape,
I like to just go out there and race, man.
Right. It's fun, man. I'm telling
you, like, the grind, all that stuff
is part of the game. So,
you know, a lot of these younger athletes
have to understand
being a professional
like you just saying
you ain't just training
traveling to these places
for fun
you out here
going out there
and compete
because these
track meets in Europe
is totally different
from in the US
they're different
really?
so what's so different
about them Vern?
man they appreciate the sport
and like
it's all crowds
you go to these
Dom Lee meets
man it's just like
you're competing
in their worlds
in the Olympics
we went to the London Dom Lee meet man they had competing in their worlds in the Olympics we went to the
London diamond league
meet man they had
like 60k thousand
people out there
we went to the
Olympics it was
70k so it ain't
no different you
competing in these
big stadiums
and competing on
that circuit man
it's different
it's a different
setup it's very
professional
they appreciate
the sport
and the competition
is there man
and you know we see the same people all the time.
You see all these guys we race and we see them all the time on the circuit.
Those guys in that 400 meters, I'm going to race them next Thursday.
So I'm going to get some of that blood, man.
I missed out on that blood.
I'm going to get some of that blood next week, man.
I want some of that.
You want your get back, huh, Bird?
I'm going to get some of that, man. When I lose a job some of that. You want your get back, huh, Byrne? I'm going to get some of that, man. When I lose
a draw, I'm going to step on that line and give it everything
I got, you know? That's just the competitive in
me, man. I don't know how you, you know, you football
guys, y'all boys get on that
field. Y'all boys get at it, too, but on that field,
we get active on that track, too, now.
Oh, yeah, for sure. I like it.
I like it. Hey,
track and field is my favorite sport to watch, Byrne.
I appreciate it. It's nice, man. I know. Yeah, favorite sport to watch, Byron.
It's nice,
man.
I know.
Yeah.
I mean, I love it.
I mean,
I go back on,
like I said,
I'm a little,
I'm a lot older than you.
And so I go back.
And so I remember like all the Olympics and a lot of the worlds when they
first brought the worlds in,
in 83 in Helsinki.
I go,
I go back a while,
way,
way,
way back.
And so I love the sport and the 400 meter is my race.
I love,
look, I love, you know, track and field, everything in track and field, but the sport. And the 400 meter is my race. I love, look, I love, you know,
track and field, everything in track and field. But the
open four and the four by four, that's
my race, man. That's my race.
I love those races. If anybody's watching
that four by four this year for the first time,
man, they gonna fall in love with it.
That's honestly, that's like one of the
probably the closest race I ever seen in USA
push to the max.
You know, because you usually just
wiping everybody out.
And I think the fans at
that games, man, I'm in the arena,
I'm like, dang.
I'm tight. I'm just
really tight. Come on, come on.
Just to go through and experience that, man,
I don't think I'm ever going to forget that. Because I re-watched the race
the other day. I'm watching. I'm like,
damn, we really sliding. I'm watching. Rob, hold it down, man. To this day, I say ever going to forget that. Because I rewatched the race the other day. I'm watching. I'm like, damn, we really sliding.
I'm watching.
Ron, hold it down, man, to this day.
I said, Ron, you're good in my book to this day, boy.
You're down.
You're good in my book to this day, boy.
You held us down.
Even Chris Bailey.
Chris Bailey did his thing on first leg, you know.
And even Bryce.
You know, we told Bryce some things.
We're like, hey, Bryce, you got to step on them today.
You got to step on them today. And Bryce got that thing. Shout out to him. And I said, hey, Bryce, you got to step on them today. You got to step on them today.
Bryce got that thing. Shout out to him.
I said, oh yeah, there we go. We in business now.
Rob got the stick and he did
this thing. He did something that a lot
of track at least don't, probably would never
do. He didn't panic.
He had a strategy. He knew who
Tobogo was. He had an idea
of what he was like. Look, I'm going to get out.
But I'm going to get out just enough
where I don't die in the last 100 meters.
Because if you go out too hard,
man, there is no
catalytic acid like 400
acid in that last 100 meters.
Tobogo will be
the problem, man.
But see, here's the thing.
I'm not so sure.
Had he not run that low 44 earlier, and you saw that,
so you know he got the strength.
And he just came off 1946.
But a lot of people don't know this about Tobago.
You know, he, you know, throughout the year, you know,
he went through some adversity with, you know.
His mom passed away.
So he ain't trained for a couple of weeks now. So he missed out on some training because, you know, some... His mom passed away. So he ain't trained for a couple of weeks now.
So he missed out on some training
because, you know, he got to deal with it.
So he ain't no views
when he continues the season.
And for him to do that, man,
I got a tremendous amount of respect for him, man.
And the way they presented him in Botswana,
that was tremendous.
That was live.
That was unbelievable.
That was live.
He could be a problem, man.
He could run the one, two, and the four.
Like, could people forget, he ran 30 points in the 300 earlier.
Oh, he got the world record in the 300 meters.
He ran 30, 65.
I'm like, man, I hope he don't go to the 400, man.
These boys are already, like, knocking at the door.
So for him to go out and do that, man, even if he run the 400 right now,
he probably could go 43 seconds in the right race.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Oh, absolutely.
For sure.
Hold on.
He ran 19.4.
If he runs 19.4, he can come through easy at 21.5.
Easy.
Easy.
I'm talking about with no stress, Vern.
No stress whatsoever.
Easy, man.
And you mean to tell me he can't get home in 22 after coasting through the –
Oh, hell yeah
wait till he put a little bit more muscle on him
get a little bit stronger and he figure out that 100
lights out
he doesn't know
he says he might go to the 4
he might do the 4-2 but here's the thing
are they
going to adjust the schedule because
to do the 4-2
it's too close they have to do the schedule? Because to do the 4-2, it's going to be too close.
It's back to back.
They have to do what they did for Michael
and what they did for Marie-José Perrette.
When she did it in 96, both of them did it in 96.
They spaced it out and gave them a couple days in between.
Because if you finish one and try to go right, nah.
Hell nah.
But I got to salute the boat.
He ran.
He had a day break.
He went straight from the 100 to the 200 to the 4x4.
I thought he was going to run one round.
Botswana got a little depth, too, now.
They got some guys that ran the 45 seconds.
So I'm thinking, oh, he's going to run the first round.
He done.
Man, that boy went out there almost with 42.
I said, man, he a problem, man.
Yeah, for sure.
A little rock across the line.
I said, hey, man, Tabog will be a problem, bro. But shout out the line I said hey man Tobogo be a problem bro
you know
but shout out to
Botswana man
Tobogo
they did a great job
man they pushed us
to the max
yeah but
Vern if you 165
Tobogo might be 155
he gotta be
he's slim
he's smart
he's smart on TV
that's why I say
if he get a little bit
more strong
a little bit more powerful
right and he clean up some
things in that 100
his top end speed
yeah
him and Noah got some
of the top end speed
you know
Noah's gonna have to run some more 400s though
Vern
to deal with this kid Noah's gonna have to run some more 400s, though, Vern. Huh? To deal with this kid, no one's going to have to run some more 400s.
Man, Toboga basically 400 running the sprints, man.
That's basically what he is.
He's a hybrid.
And, you know, I hope he just stay away from that 400.
He's going to beat up on the balls.
We already got too much depth in the 400s.
It is, man.
It's too much depth in the U.S., man it's too much in the u.s you know
there's so many guys in the u.s that people don't even like you didn't see this year that you
probably gonna see next year you know people didn't see chris bailey last year but you see
him this year you know what i'm saying it's it's so much depth man and i and i kind of like it that
way because it keeps the competition amongst us like okay we gotta be got to be on our game. Not just for the world, but
for us because if we can get through U.S.
trials, we already know we're ready for the world
because you want to do U.S. trials just like world.
Yeah.
Let me ask you this about, and we talked about
this and I've talked to several people,
Quincy, as Michael Johnson,
I had Justin Gatlin on, even I
talked to Ry. I
think Bobby Kersey, who's her coach,
Bobby's about legacy, Bobby's
about leaving that you always remember
Bobby Kersey athlete.
Is that I can see a situation
where Sid tries to go
sub 49, probably at the Worlds,
and then she shifts her focus
and she goes to the Open 400
and tries to take down Metta Rinna-Colts record.
She can do it too.
Yeah?
She can go,
I think she can go sub 49
in the hurdles.
And I think she definitely
could get...
You mean sub 50 in the hurdles?
Yeah, sub 50.
I'm sorry.
Sub 50.
And I think she definitely
could get the world record
because
when you're watching her run, man,
just her mental focus,
you just see it.
And I think just,
she got it down pat.
Like, with the hurdles,
like, she just got it so down pat
and it's so perfected
that she just going boom.
You know, and then you put her,
and you put her out in the 400.
She already got the 200.
She can go sub 22
if she really was a train for it.
She ran 22.07, which is like the eighth or ninth fastest time run and she would have had the
american record in the 400 if you watched the race in new york it was windy as hell on that
back on that on that home stretch when she was finishing that race right broke the american
record that day she ran for like uh 48 48 75 she was broken you, if she ran again at trials or something like that.
So she definitely,
you know,
in contentious to do that,
but she was the focus on the four.
I think easily she could get that world record because she has all the
tangibles and all the attributes and the strengths to do it.
She got the speed,
she got the strength and she got the mindset to do it too.
And the right coach.
So I'm pretty sure he has the recipe to cook it up and stir it up for her. All she's got to
do is go out there and put it out on the right
day, on the right time, with the right people in there.
We see that
South 50 and the Myrtles.
It's over. Ain't nobody breaking that record. That record's going to be
like Flojo.
Or like Cratchalova's
record and the 800, the coach's record
and the 400. We don't get to see Sydney
a lot throughout the year. We see that at the big meets. We don't get to see Sydney a lot throughout the year.
We see her at the big meets.
We see her at trials and we see her at the games.
A lot of people
be forgetting how
multi-talented
and phenomenal she is.
She can run
high hurdles. She can run
the 60 meters. She can run the 100 meters.
She can run the 200 meters.
What makes her so
unique is that she can
hurdle with either leg.
She might take off with the right leg,
and then she's taking 14 steps, I think,
in the next four hurdles, and she's going
left leg. It doesn't matter
if you notice, you never see
her chop because she can jump with either leg.
She got the speed to do it, the character.
Oh, she got top-end speed, yeah.
For sure.
If she really wanted to do the 200, she could train and do the 200.
She can do the short hurdles.
Like, she really could do any event she actually really focused on.
But I'm pretty sure the whole world want to see South 50 in the 400 hurdles
and then see her try something new with the 400.
The 400 is going to be a big challenge because you got those
girls. Paulino!
You just saw Paulino just run the third fastest
time ever. Paulino Adal. 38-17.
Paulino Adal and you still got
the Barista who just came
back. Because
it was her before it was Paulino.
Yes.
But now she's got a big push. But Paulino Adal
she ain't going to go down very easily.
She ain't going down without a fight. She's going to need
that in order for her to get what she
want to get that push for her to get that world record.
That's why I say she can get it because, like
I said, if you watch her race way back,
I wasn't yet last year, where her
and Paulina raced in Paris, you know, but
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think maybe Sydney
was just trying somehow just to see. But I think
that was Sydney's probably first open four.
Yeah, she probably was just trying something out just to test the walls
and see what she could do.
But, you know, like, sometimes it might play those mental gymnastics
just to test you out.
But, I mean, she definitely could break the world record, though.
She got it.
Vern, I think it's going to take –
I think she might need to go to altitude in order, with the right track, the right conditions that day.
Man, I don't think she needs all that, man.
She needs to just go out there and run, man.
And just go on.
Burn, I'm talking about 47-60.
There's only two women in the history,
and track and field's been going on for over 100 years.
Since 1896.
She just split 47-7 with no push.
But you do realize 47.60 from a stand from blocks?
Yes.
It's something entirely different, bro.
You run too many 400s not to know that.
You know, it's going to be a challenge,
but I could definitely see her going south 48.
Oh, for sure.
For sure.
Like I said,
you know,
it's something that she's going to want to have to do
and her coach is going to have to cook up the recipe
for her to do it.
And I'm pretty sure he will
because he's a mastermind
behind a lot of success
a lot of athletes have.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
Hey, I'd love to see it.
And I would love to see that, man.
So who knows,
you know,
what Sydney will do
because I'm a big fan of hers.
We're under the same responsibility with New Balance. So I would love to see it from her. So who knows what Sydney do? I'm a big fan of hers. We under the same responsible New Balance, so
I would love to see it from her, man.
And plus the fact that she
young enough.
She's 25.
She's a running time Olympian.
And she's in her
wheelhouse for the next three
four years.
She's about
for the next two, three years, Vern, she's going to be, she's about, for like two, for the next two, three years,
she's going to be at her peak powers.
Man, they don't even know, man.
That's why I said,
it's all going to be about
what she want to do
at the end of the day.
But for the track and field community,
man, we waiting on that day, man.
I'm pretty sure as much
I'm waiting on that day too
because we talking about it right now.
I love it.
But I'm glad that y'all can see
the
craft behind
our work, because our sport is very
different from a lot of these other sports.
Because basically, when you're out there on that track,
you're out there on the island.
You know about the island.
The boys be on the island with you.
One-on-one, you already know what time it is.
You all by yourself.
It is you and this. You know what time it is you all by yourself you all by yourself it is you and this
you know what I'm saying
and I think
that's a lot of people
overlook
they think it's all physical
I'm like nah
it's that mind game
you know what I'm saying
you walk past
one of your
your boy
by the block
you look at him
you're like oh yeah
he's scared
he done
so you already
it's here
it's little answers
like sometimes
you see guys
do stuff like that.
They don't want to look at you. They don't want to shake your hand.
They don't want to do nothing. I'm like, man, come on.
You look at them and they look away. Okay, I got you.
I'm like, man, you know where I'm from, boy?
This ain't nothing.
This is running. I ain't going to die on this, man.
I'm good.
It's fun, man. And I'm glad
y'all get to witness and see our sport
because, man, it's hard, man. It's very hard. Oh know y'all get to witness and see our sport because man, it's, it's hard,
man.
It's very hard.
Oh yeah,
for sure.
Like the,
what we put our body through to get very little reward.
And that's why I said,
we appreciate child strong.
Y'all know y'all generosity towards us.
Cause that's big,
man.
I think what y'all did for our community,
man,
y'all good.
My book,
y'all come to bed.
I got a room.
I can take you down to the best soul food spot. Boy, you eat that right to sleep, but man, you're good in my book. Y'all come to the bedroom, y'all got a room, I can take you down to the best soul food spot
for you to eat that bar right to sleep.
Look, man, you're good in my book, man.
But we appreciate y'all, man. It's been
fun. But yeah.
For those in the chat asking, yes,
Vern has received
his payment. Come on, man.
Hey, don't say it too loud. Somebody might come knocking on the door.
I'm like, oh, find some money.
Hey, you owe me some money.
Hey, man, look. Oh, you got paid? Nah, chill out now. don't say it too loud somebody might come knocking on the door I'm like oh find some money they're like hey you give me some money they're like hey man
look
mama probably text me
oh you got paid
chill out now
chill out
I'm like oh
I'm a little frugal man
I understand it bro
I understand it
I'm frugal man
I ain't got no money
I'm broke
bro
thank you for giving us
some of your time tonight man
we really really appreciate it
congratulations on the uh the time the olympic record congratulations on the world record and
the mixed relays continued success uh the rest of the season and uh we'll see you down the road bro
i appreciate y'all hey look you know yes whenever ocho can't make it I'm gonna come co-host with you alright you good then okay
come on
you good bro
so we can get on there together man
we good we good
burn appreciate it man best of luck stay healthy
we'll see you down the road
alright bro have a good one
yo
Ocho that was unbelievable man
that was live there boy that was live, man. Hey, that was live, that boy.
Yeah.
That was live.
I'll leave.
I'm a little bit new to this.
Man, just hit the X and get up out of here, bird.
Man, that was great, Ojo.
That was great, man.
I mean, to have Noah on, to have the mixed relays with Shamir Little, KK, Bryce
Dedman, obviously Burn, and then Burn
to bring it home. Man, it's great.
We're still trying to work on a few
athletes.
Matter of fact, I'm glad you just
said that you're trying to work on a few athletes.
Masai Russell asked
if she could come on,
so I told her I would pass the message on the unc
um obviously you know she won yes you want to hurt him yeah yeah so um i get that information to you
all right and this is this is good this is really good just being able to hear from
allowing the fans to hear from my athletes and what that experience was like you know
representing our country the pressure the
strategies that go into and into racing and how it's more than just just running it's so much more
to just running as opposed to what the casual fan may think that really doesn't watch track so
it's really dope to hear the game plans that each each person has and then what they go through and
how they prepare for the track meets, especially on the big stage
like the Olympics.
Well, it's kind of like you. People just think you go out
and they get open. But there's
a technique, there's a skill
to running the bang
to make it look just like a square out,
to make it look like a dig, to make it look like
an over. Oh, yeah.
Oh, man, he just got... No, no, no, no.
There's technique to that that you just don't just
go run there has to be a rhyme and a reason everything needs to look the same i'm falling
off the table on the out route a back foot hit and then guess what the bang yeah once i glance
inside yeah i know that safety cover three because it's bang bang yeah that That's how he gets the name.
So, yeah, we love to have him get that information.
Ocho, now it's time for us to pivot.
We got to go to football.
Daniel Jones gave Giants fans reason to worry with two interceptions against Houston.
After two interceptions, Daniel Jones.
I thought it was three.
He threw two or three.
I thought it was three.
I think maybe the backup
came in and did that hey
did you see did you see
that pick by stingley
though yeah oh that was
a hell of a pick that
was nice boy but stingley
the hell of a player oh
yeah he nice he nice
after two interceptions
david daniel jones
delivered a pair of
scoring drives but you
know what the topic
will be in new york this
week but first was a
classic example what not
to do guess Guess what?
He's in a situation, and while he did, he exacerbated it. He made a bad situation worse.
Even worse.
So what's worse, a safety or a pick six?
Yeah.
I think, you know what he was trying to do?
He was trying to throw that joker out of bounds,
but the momentum from the hit, it jarred the ball loose
and messed up the throw
I tweeted earlier today
as unethical
as Daniel Jones' performance was
in the preseason game
I said that Malik
Malik Nabors is so good
he's so good
he's going to save him
that's how good, sometimes you have quarterbacks that are so good they make the receiver Malik Nabors is so good, he's going to save him. That's how good. Sometimes you have quarterbacks that are so good, they make the
receiver. Malik Nabors is
so good. He's shown such
elite talent, not only
in the preseason games, but in practices
as well. He's going to save Daniel
Jones in season. He's going to be a security
blanket. Not when
you throw a play, not when you throw the ball directly
to the DB. Yeah, and the funny thing
about it, and a lot of people say,
how are you going to get in the ball?
It just put the ball in the vicinity.
This is the NFL.
Put the ball in the vicinity of neighbors and you'll be fine.
Yeah.
Okay.
Second,
uh,
but he threw a pick six to Jalen Petrie.
Yeah.
And then the second interception came on the next possession.
Darryl Stingler Jr.
Had a great pick. Daniel Jones
signed a four-year deal for $160 million.
So, you ride with Danny Dimes
this year? I mean, we don't have
no choice. You
got a choice.
You don't play for New York. You know, I don't
got no horse in the race over there in New York. I could
care less. So, you ride with him? I could care less.
Huh? You ride with him?
I mean, he all him? I mean,
is he alright?
I mean, I don't know.
Is Ocho Seco riding with Daniel
Jones? Is it simple yes or simple
no?
I mean, no.
Listen,
I told you I ain't got what you're asking.
Stop asking.
Hey, I don't have
no horse in the race over there in New York.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
Don't pay me no mind.
The Steelers played both Russell Wilson and Justin Field quarterback
for the entirety of the day's preseason game and only scored three points.
They combined for a total of 139 yards.
They even played a lot of their start on Pittsburgh offense.
Ocho, given what you saw, what's the Steelers' ceiling?
Now, see, the Steelers game, I didn't get to see, Unc.
I'm going to just be honest with you because, yeah, I understand.
I'm out here in New York, and I was doing a signing during the tenure of that game.
So, I haven't had a chance to get back and watch it or watch the replay.
So, I'm not sure what happened.
So you're going to have to, like, keep me and keep me, what's the word,
abreast of what you saw and what happened.
And I'm going to have to go back and watch it.
Oh, Joe, man.
Was it that bad?
Hold on, let me start, let me start.
Was it that bad?
The thing is that you see both of them make throws and practice.
I mean, you know, Fields is playing unbelievable.
Russell is making great throws.
And then come game time, it's just like, damn.
Well, you know, practicing the game is completely different.
And that's the thing I'm saying.
Did y'all even practice?
I mean, it was bad.
Wait, hold on, hold on.
It wasn't that bad or you just don't like the Steelers?
No, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, I was a Steelers fan growing up.
Right.
But just looking at it, and I don't want to look.
I don't want to say they're going to be 2-15,
but boy, they got to improve
offensively, man. They got to.
It was that bad?
It was bad.
They were bad.
It is preseason. I mean, I can
say that. I'm not sure if that's
a good or bad thing.
Ocho,
you and I both know. Yes, sir.
In preseason, it didn't matter. You ain't want to go out there and put on no bullj both know. Yes, sir. It didn't matter.
You ain't want to go out there and put on no bull jive performance.
Right, right.
At least give us a small sample size of what it's going to look like.
That's tape.
I ain't trying to put that on film.
Right.
I ain't trying to put that out there, Ocho. I ain't going to even lie to you.
I ain't trying to put that out there.
I mean, you making it sound like they play like the Bad News Bears or something.
Coach O was bad.
I'm just saying that's all I'm going to say.
He was bad.
Oh.
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Ocho, the Cowboys kicker Brandon Aubrey Oh, Joe.
The Cowboys kicker, Brandon Aubrey,
just nailed a 66-yard field goal at the buzzer,
tied for the longest kick in NFL history.
It's been one hell of a story for the 28-year-old
undrafted free agent from the NFL.
UFL, excuse me, UFL.
They said the kick would have been good
from 72 yards
but damn
which would have been the longest kick in NFL
history these guys now
Ocho I mean
50 is no longer a test for
any kicker in the NFL
you don't really start to stress a kicker
until you get to 55
50 yarders.
Like nothing.
66 is
very far. That's the NFL
record. I mean,
the guy in Baltimore.
Yeah.
Justin Tucker. But then when
I think about it, doing it in a preseason
game where there's really no pressure
on you, huh? There's really no pressure on you because if you miss, you miss.
I mean, it's just preseason.
You're already a kicker.
The job is already yours.
But what happens when you put an individual in that pressure situation where the game is on the line?
Yeah, I know I got 66 yards.
That's a different ball game.
I know I got the leg to do it.
Oh, yeah.
You see, that's why we practice.
Because, hey, son, I've seen you make that play in practice. Because, hey, son, I've seen you make that play in practice.
Hey, son, I've seen you win this route in practice.
What you do in practice gave me the confidence that when I went into the game.
Yeah, I can do it.
I don't give a damn what y'all do.
I done did this before.
My body knows.
You know, as a kicker, as a kicker myself, you you've seen me kick you know field goal in the
game there is a certain pressure that is on you when the game is on the line especially from that
distance that is far because the further back you go the more difficult it is to be accurate
and consistent so you try to you try you first of all you all, a lot of times you over-kick the ball.
Bingo. You ain't got
no choice. You better. 66?
You know how fun it is?
Yeah. And then,
they got a guy standing back there at the back of the
inline, so he gonna catch it.
You only got two guys that can really tackle.
Those are the wings.
Because you got five offensive,
you probably got five or six offensive and defensive linemen
and then you got the kicker he can't tackle
the holder he can't tackle and basically
you got two wings that are normally linebacker
or tight end those are you got
that's it that's what you got
so
you're at a disadvantage
yes very much so alright Ocho
it's time for our last segment of the night
and it's Q&A
I see somebody
in the chat trying to be funny
Ocho was a kicker what do you mean kickball
you better do your homework stop playing
with me man
Texas Track Dad
podcast said thanks for
supporting track and field tonight
nightcap nah man this is
like to have these guys and to
see the excitement ocho of having somebody like ourselves support them and then put money where
our mouth is like bro we proud of y'all and we want to show you just how proud and congratulate
you for what we did you can see the sincere the genuine happiness that everybody that's been on here, that's one, you can see the genuine excitement that comes along with it.
I got a question.
Yes.
I don't mean to put our business out there.
What's the chances that we can see it on here?
I'm just curious.
We put some calls in, so we'll see how that goes okay okay i mean that's
kind of how we got all of we put calls out and all we can do is you know we put calls out yeah and uh
they can respond or not yeah well i would hope i would hope with the love that we've been showing
i would hope that she responds just so we can give her flowers. Yeah. Jane Blackwell, USA is about to take over track again at the Paralympics in Paris.
I hope so.
Hey,
gold is gold.
So,
uh,
I'm excited.
I'm,
you know,
look,
competition is competition.
Um,
these Paralympic,
uh,
athletes,
they train and have the same desire, the same dedication.
They've trained a lifetime for this moment and to see all their hard work come full circle.
Yeah.
They're as excited as the able bodies that's able to, you know, so I'm excited to see them.
Um, hopefully I get a chance to see them.
It's about to be our busy time of the year.
When does the Paralympics start?
They starting?
So hopefully 20th of this month.
Yeah, see, that's going to be a busy time for us.
That's going to be, we better head back.
We start, you know,
we'll be winding up.
We'll be in Dallas.
Yeah.
Getting ready for the final leg
of our tour.
And then, you know,
football season starts
that following Thursday.
Oh, yeah.
Let's go.
But I'll catch some of it.
I'll catch some of it.
Chiefs and Ravens.
Man, hold on, man.
Hey, did you see Mahomes with that
backyard pass?
Yeah, why are you surprised about that?
That was nice, boy.
That was nice. And they talk about
he ran the wrong route. Man, they practiced
that. They ain't fooling me.
But Kelsey was supposed to run
the flat. The other guy was supposed to get it.
I think they did that on purpose. No, Kelsey was supposed to run the flat to pull the guy. The other guy was supposed to get it. I think they did that on purpose.
No, Kelsey was supposed to run the flat to pull the guy.
The other guy was supposed to get it.
Right.
Okay.
I won't never.
Oh, okay.
Excuse me.
Hey, you talk about improvising, man.
That was smooth as hell.
Yeah.
Dr.
Frank L.
Bellarmine said, Hey, uncle, don't you see y'all Atlanta?
Who do y'all think is to be the biggest surprise team this season,
either for better or worse?
The Bears.
You think?
Yeah, what you call them?
Caleb Williams looks unbelievable.
Yeah, and I saw a few people, a few tweets that said,
well, everybody hooping and hollering about what Caleb Williams just did,
and Justin Fields used to do that too.
And I think what people are failing to realize is
justin fields showed flashes of what we saw caleb williams do today every so often yes he didn't do
it consistently consistently lamar jackson he does it consistently but that's my homes he does
it consistently josh allen despite the the the influx of turnovers he does it consistently. Josh Allen, despite the influx of turnovers, he does it consistently.
And that's what was missing.
And we have a huge sample size of Caleb Williams in college doing what we saw today in college, but consistently.
That's the only difference.
That's the difference which separates those that are really good and those that are okay.
That's the difference which separates those that are really good and those that are okay.
Just being able to find that happy medium of being able to do it consistently time in and time out again.
Man, Ochoa.
That's all it comes down to.
This is what annoys me about fans.
Yes, sir. Now, if they stay with Justin Fields and Caleb Williams goes somewhere else and lights it up, what are they going to say then? We could have had Caleb Williams if we stayed with Justin Fields and Caleb Williams goes somewhere and lights it up, what are they going to say then?
We could have had Caleb
Williams if we stayed with Justin Fields.
The exact same thing.
Bro, y'all
stop this. It's easy
to say after
the fact, hindsight
is a magnificent science because you
have the luxury of knowing today
tomorrow.
Stop that.
Yeah.
We just see y'all the same fans that was
booing when Justin Fields threw a pick
or he fumbled a ball. Now y'all
quick to say, oh, Justin Fields did this.
And I think Justin Fields,
do I think he was mismanaged?
Yeah. Mishandled? Yes. Absolutely.
Well, hey, look at the organization he was with.
They mismanaged quarterback.
They've had all y'all do is that he do suck.
Same thing.
We,
uh,
uh,
uh,
uh,
I don't know why we took it when Andy took Patrick Mahomes.
What?
Man,
we didn't need a quarterback.
We got,
we got Alex. We got Alex Smith.
We got Alex Smith, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
They don't know no better.
Like, come on.
Hold on.
Did you see Jaden Daniels today, though?
But he looked good.
Yeah, he looked good.
You know, I went to the Dolphin practice.
Yeah.
I went to the joint practice.
Yeah.
And I was able to see them.
I think it might have been Thursday's practice's practice man what that boy looked like he looked you know how you see some
you see some rookies and it looked like they they just belong like they've been doing it like they
like he's been here before man he in that pocket man so goddamn calm and relaxed pressure coming
all around him he just stepping up in the pocket man he looked he looked nice and this was in practice so i expected what i saw in the game
okay i'm all right i just saw that so okay
stephanie warfield say stay with me now name a word that people use or spell incorrectly that is your pet peeve.
See what I did there?
My
specific instead of specific.
Also to instead of to.
Man, look here.
I mean, a lot of times
there and there.
Yeah.
Using E-I instead of E-R-E?
Mm-hmm.
As in possession, as in place?
I mean, look.
I mean, a lot of times people are like,
oh, you misfeared it, bro.
Stop it.
You're not no English professor.
This is Twitter.
I ain't writing no dissertation.
I ain't doing that.
This ain't no, you know,
I ain't trying to turn in no law.
No, no.
No, it ain't none of that going on here.
You got the gist. In other words, turn in no law. No, no, no. It ain't none of that going on here. You got the gist.
In other words, I say you ugly.
You understood that though.
I'm a grandma Nazi on Twitter.
Hell no.
Jamal Bryant, as an older man and fathers,
would y'all feel some type of way of your tribe?
Tried to get you to talk to a therapist.
My father is 50. He has a lot of trauma, hurt, pain, tried to get you to talk to a therapist. My father's 50.
He has a lot of trauma,
hurt,
pain,
pride,
never talked to anyone or trust anyone.
Nah.
Hey,
I would tell him go.
Hell,
I done been a bunch of times.
The therapy.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
I went to school for that.
I,
I,
man,
I just like,
Hey,
I was quick to let nobody, you know.
I just, you know, being a little brother and being, you know,
having an older cousin being picked on, as I got some sides,
I wasn't going for none of that.
That wasn't going to happen.
No, sir.
Oh, no.
Hey, slide your number.
I'll get with you.
Mm-hmm. So, and you just have to learn it and dealing
with relationships yeah
that you know to be like you try to
be on the same level to be on the same you know
to communicate I'm not great at
communicating I say
what I say you know you say what you say
okay I'm done with it yeah
are you done yeah
I'm done you said what you said I said, I'm done with it. Yeah. Are you done? Yeah, I'm done.
You said what you said, I said what I did, what we said.
I mean, what are we going back and forth for?
So I think about also, he said at the age that he's at,
do you think therapy even helps at that point?
Yeah, for sure.
You think so?
Because it gets you.
Because it gets you.
You're sort of stuck in your ways.
Yeah, but it gets you to look that your ways got you effed up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because like I say, don't you?
I told you this time.
Sometimes you bleed on the people that didn't even cut you.
Ooh, I got that in my notes.
You don't know.
You don't know that you're doing that.
You don't know what you don't know.
And sometimes you got to be smart.
You got to be smart enough to know what you don't know
and you know you just gotta okay let me see an alternate because here's the thing Ocho
here's an alternate view of somebody that don't have a dog in the fight right that's why therapy
you know you ain't you don't know the person that maybe you and your partner not going to see the same therapist, but you're going to someone. And it's, it's better. Cause I've been in both situations. I've gone by myself and I'm taking a partner with me. And because a lot of times you only going to tell your side of the story that makes you look favorable. You know how they go down to the interrogate room oh yeah yeah yeah yeah oh yeah he did that but you tell half the story the half that's convenient for them to keep me out of it
yeah oh you know you're telling your side to make you look good to make it seem like it's the other
person so now when the other person comes in tell this side now is his job says okay do you see why
she felt that way do you see why he felt this way okay is there a common ground
that we can get to
so yeah I absolutely
believe I absolutely believe that it
helps
I definitely know it helped me
and it's still a work in progress Ocho
you have to go because a lot of times
it's too late
to buy insurance after you wreck the car
it's too late to buy insurance after you wreck the car it's too late to buy insurance after
the house is burnt down god damn it i ain't got my damn notepad boy that's a good one right there
boy so a lot of times people don't only want to do something with something chaotic is going on
but a lot of times it's too late to buy insurance after you wreck the car oh i'm gonna use that
hey my hey i'm oh i'm gonna hit real with that one, but next argument.
I ain't bullshitting.
Next argument.
Kelly, boy, as mister.
Uncle Ocho, you guys responded to one of my messages
a few months ago,
and you guys helped me through a hard time in my life,
and I'm nowhere to go,
and this is my safe place,
and a guaranteed laugh after a bad day.
Thank you.
Nah, bro, thank you.
Yes, sir. Thank you for being day. Thank you. Nah, bro, thank you. Yes, sir.
Thank you for being supportive.
Thank you for watching.
Ocho and I, you look, we try to break down sporting events,
but we try to teach you life lessons,
things that have happened to each of us in our lives,
and to be open and as honest as I possibly can about things that have,
because at 56 years of age, I haven't been perfect,
and I've never professed that I'm perfect.
And I'm big enough,
old enough to know that I've,
I've,
I've,
I've been bad in certain spots.
Try not to be bad in that position again,
but I'm,
I've never been too big to not accept responsibility and accountability.
And I think that's the biggest thing.
I think a lot of times people always look at the place to blame.
It's always someone else's fault.
Well,
if it's always someone else's fault, why are you the only common denominator?
Hmm.
Hmm.
I mean, you go to the restaurant, you go to the restaurant.
It stinks.
You in your car.
It stinks.
You at home.
It stinks.
You go to church.
It stinks.
You the one that got
the smelly booty. It's you.
It ain't everybody else.
Come on, pastor.
I think a lot of people don't want to accept
responsibility. They don't want to accept
accountability because it's so easy to
blame other people.
I own up to mine
and it's okay. I'm not perfect.
Same.
I'm not.
People want you to flip.
I think the thing is that society has come.
So they want you to think their lives are perfect.
Oh,
I got the perfect marriage.
I got the perfect job.
I got the perfect everything.
There is no such thing as perfection.
All I do is I shoot for the stars.
And if I land on the moon,
I'm still pretty damn high up.
And that's okay.
Somehow we've like,
if you make a mistake,
I'm not saying make the same mistake,
Ochoa.
Oh, no.
It take one time.
You hear me?
It take one time.
So, yeah, that's just...
But Calibor,
I'm glad we could be...
I remember the name. I don't quite quite remember i think you was going through something uh with a girlfriend um but bro
my grandfather used to always say sunshine follows rain
every time no matter how stormy it rained 40 days and 40 nights
but the same sun came out and no one could see the land.
It's going to get better, bro.
I promise you.
BK said, are y'all excited about NFL season as much as I am?
Me, I've watched more preseason than I ever have in my entire life.
Of course.
Yes, I'm very excited for the NFL season.
I'm anxious to see can the
sports
about stories
can
Kansas City three-peat can
Aaron Rodgers get the Jets to
where they want to be
can Lamar Jackson
finally get over the hump
we know what his playoff we know what his regular
seasons are impeccpeccable.
Can he go?
Dak Prescott, is this his
last year in Dallas?
Will the Cowboys
advance? There are so many
storylines.
So, yes,
I'm
excited to see them all
and see them unfold.
And in New Orleans, in the second week of February,
we're going to crown a champ.
Will it be the same champ or will it be a new champ?
It's going to be the Bengals in New Orleans.
Oh, that's what it's going to be?
Yeah, I'm just telling you.
That's the story. Well, we're going to be yeah I'm just telling you that's the story
well we're going to be down there
well we definitely
we definitely going to be down there
alright guys that concludes
Nightcap
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Vernon Norwood, Brian Ded Dedman, Shamir Little,
Kaitlyn Brown,
and, uh,
Kaitlyn, right? It's Kaitlyn Brown.
Kaitlyn, Kaitlyn Brown. Sorry.
Uh, KK, that's what they were calling it.
So, guys, thank you so much for joining
us at Nightcap. I'm sure all our
listeners, all our viewers, we're very
excited to see you guys and hear you break down
your performances
and the meaning of being at the Olympics
and being able to run and get those medals.
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