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That was street skateboarder Nigel Houston
sharing his story,
the disappointment that he suffered in Paris
in position to win the gold medal.
Ocho and then his last run did not work out the way he had hope or way he envisioned.
So he was sharing his story about the disappointment and about the heartbreak and how he was struggling mentally with it.
But he said, you know what? I got a great support system. I'm going to be OK.
I got a great life. And this one setback does not define me.
It doesn't make me. It doesn't make
me. It doesn't make me
less, doesn't make me more, but I
will get over this. So we appreciate him
sharing his story on Nightcap
with all our subscribers and listeners.
So thank you guys. Hopefully you got something
out of that and you really appreciated that
interview.
Oh yeah.
Ocho, you said that you skateboard and that you wanted to uh
you wanted to show the people at home kind of like what oh yeah yeah yeah yeah you remember that
uh oh oh do you remember that well that look that look very cartoonish yo joe oh joe i'm
surprised you ain't break your back it hurt hurt a little bit, but that's the only
way to get better.
I'm surprised you don't remember that.
You see, I can skate for real,
but I can't do no damn tricks.
But I can ride the board.
It look like I know what I'm doing, but
when I try to execute something,
that's what the execution look like.
Man, my back hurt.
I don't know if I'm going to be able to get on this plane in a little bit.
Just watching that?
Yeah.
Yeah, my back hurt.
Yeah, man.
It's all good.
Listen, I can skateboard.
It's just when it comes to doing tricks, I fall over and over and over until I get it right.
And I was like, that might have been my third time, third or fourth time falling like that.
But I kept trying.
Well, give yourself credit.
I mean, I ain't falling like that
because I already know I can't do it.
You can't get back up. You ain't gonna get back up.
After you get a certain age, Ocho, those legs hurt.
I mean, man, I fall now. I shatter like ice.
You know, if you drop
ice on the kitchen floor, you see that
shit, that ith go everywhere.
That's exactly what's going to happen to me.
I ain't taking no falls like that, Ochoa.
That's a good one.
I shatter like ice.
Ochoa, we got to get to these comments by Noah Lyles.
This is what he said last year.
He said, you know, the thing that hurts me the most is that I have to watch the NBA finals
and they have world champion, excuse me, world champion on their head.
World champion of what?
The United States? Don't get me wrong.
I love the U.S. at all times
but that ain't the world.
Well,
more fuel got added to the fire today
when Time Magazine revealed
that while he was negotiating a contract
with Adidas last year, the company
offered him an invite to a shoe release for Anthony Edwards.
Lyle seems to take offense to the offer,
considering he was the world champ and Ant-Man wasn't.
You want me to do what?
You want to invite me to an event for a man who's not even been to the NBA
finals in a sport that you don't even care about?
And you're giving him a shoe?
No disrespect to the man,
he's an amazing athlete.
He's having a heck of a year.
I love that you saw insight
to give him a shoe
because they saw he's going to be big.
All I'm asking is,
how could you not see that in me?
Oh, man.
Listen,
there's certain battles that you shouldn shouldn't fight sometimes you got to
pick your battles wisely i'm just thinking for for me you you pick your battles wisely as someone
who is great at their sport stuff like this can can turn turn brands away you could turn down
market it could turn marketing opportunities away from you even though you are a gold medal
winner
as a partner with Adidas
and in good faith supporting
your fellow NBA player that
just won gold now
you know
it's unfortunate I think
the hard part is as a track runner
the market
and demand for a track runner shoe it wouldn't be as significant as a NBA basketball player who is seen globally.
You think?
Let me ask you a question, Ocho.
I mean, yeah.
In the course of five months, how many times are people going to look at Noah Lyles' feet?
Yeah.
In the course of an NBA season, how many people are going to look at Ant-Man feet?
Every two, three days?
Yeah.
And then guess what Ant-Man can do?
Ant-Man can say, hey, bro, as a solitaire, you and these athletes,
hey, can you wear my shoes?
What other track athletes are going to, can you wear my shoes? What other track
athletes going to wear no-allow shoes?
Because you see LeBron
has players, other players in the NBA
wearing LeBron. You see KD
has other players wearing the KD. Kobe.
Kobe.
So I'm just trying to figure out,
let's just say for the sake of argument,
get a little research here, Ocho.
Normally when
Nike, Adidas, Under Armour,
when they give somebody a signature shoe,
they say that base
is between $5 and $15 million.
Now,
when they give you a shoe, he's going to want
5%
of each shoe sold.
In order for them to make
that kind of commitment to you,
do you know how many shoes are going to have to sell?
Supply and demand comes into play.
Supply and demand.
They don't just look at,
oh, there's a reason why big guys
don't normally get shoe deals.
Because ain't nobody buying these shoes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think he understands that side of it.
He's just looking at it like, I'm the world champ.
I'm the fancy man in the world. Give me a shoe.
It doesn't work like that. We could go back.
We could find two guys
that had shoes. Michael
Johnson had a shoe.
Usain Bolt had a shoe.
They don't still make those shoes.
Why is that?
Kobe hadn't played basketball in how long?
Kobe's been deceased for four years.
They still make Kobe's.
They still make Jordan's.
They're still going to make LeBron's when LeBron retires. They're still going to make KD's when KD retires.
There's a reason why, Noah.
I don't know what you're missing.
Yeah.
Noah's great at what he does.
He is great at
marketing himself. He is great at getting
brand deals. He will continue to
get them because he has a personality.
He has that aura.
He has that it factor
it takes to be represented by
brand deals, but as far as a shoe,
that's different because
it's seen differently.
There's not enough exposure
in the track
space to have a shoe deal.
Let me ask you,
hey, do like Shaq.
Partner with Walmart. Make shoes for
$20, $30 and sell a boatload
of them. Do like Stephon Marbury.
Do like LeVar Ball.
If you
so hell-bent on making
a sneaker,
go that route.
A nice trainer would be dope.
A nice waffle shoe, a nice waffle shoe,
a nice spike,
but they won't do it.
Ocho, there'scho, think about it.
Only football player.
I mean, Deion is really the only football player that had a shoe.
He had a cross trainer.
Bo Jackson had a cross trainer.
That's it.
It's only those two, huh?
Where the hell you wearing cleats at?
You wearing cleats to the mall?
You going to a wedding in a pair of cleats?
I don't know what I'm going to say out and get a pair of cleats? I don't have a mark out there.
I don't have a sale there.
Basketball shoe.
Basketball shoe
is just not for basketball.
It's a status symbol.
Yeah, you can wear it anyway.
It's culture.
Yeah.
Cleats ain't no damn culture.
Trike spikes ain't no culture.
Hey, them goddamn
Bo Jackson's cross-trains.
Remember the all-white ones
with the orange,
with the orange lining
a little bit?
Yeah.
The balls that we had, we had the blue and gold ones. Okay. And white ones with the orange lining a little bit? Yeah. The bowls
that we had, we had the blue and gold
ones. And everybody know what I'm talking about
in the late 80s?
Them BoJack, the first BoJack's
cross training. I know y'all know what I'm talking about.
Them BoJack's. Classic, boy.
Mike
Vic. Mike Vic. Oh, that's right.
The Mike Vic experience.
When he was at Atlanta. When he was at Atlanta.
Yeah.
Them things were nice too.
Them things.
Oh, wait.
But I just don't know.
Go ahead.
Randy Moss didn't have a shoe, did he?
He's with Jordan, though.
Yeah.
He's with Jordan.
I just don't know, Ocho,
of a track athlete.
They're not visible enough.
Right.
I mean,
the big meets,
you get two,
you get two world championships
and you get two Olympics.
And that's kind of the only time that people are really talking, tracking people.
Yeah, right.
Where basketball, you know, is, and you know, is what?
They come out October, so October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, and the NBA finals in June.
So nine months.
January, February, March, April, May and the NBA finals end in June
so nine months
and as you said a couple of times a week
we gonna see what's on Ant-Man's
feet
and then
Ant-Man got some dope ass colorways
and the thing is
he gonna do something crazy
he gonna dunk on somebody
now I wanna go, you run the world record time
I don't still wanna go out and buy no track spike.
And so you have to look at it from a business.
I want to say, you know what?
I'm tired of getting fired, man.
I want to create something on my own.
Okay.
I had to come out my own damn pocket.
If you serious about it, you're going to have to come out of your own pocket.
You're going to have to pay producers.
You're going to have to pay editors
and graphics and all that stuff.
And when you go on location and shoot,
somebody's got to pay for that.
Oh, yeah, you want to shoot Mr. Shaw?
Oh, we love Clay Shea Shea.
Oh, that'll cost you $10,000.
And then you've got to put people up.
Where they stand there, don't you?
Somewhere.
How they going to get there?
Got to fly them.
And people just think like,
oh, I'm popular.
Just give me a shoe.
People, look,
Adidas and Nikes and companies,
they're not nonprofits.
You know, they had this thing uh
what was it chanel or dior they makes a purse for 57 and sell it for 2500 okay don't buy the purse
or you go make a purse that you like and there you go yeah now that markup gonna be that's the
whole that's the whole thing you're supposed to make something you're like it doesn't cost me a
lot but then you sell everything is a markup
always I was reading they said
restaurants markup
anything between 100 and
250% you just told me about
that remember not too long ago
yeah
you can't read yeah
they gotta make a profit
yes
but they got O make a profit. Yes!
But they got to be... They're not...
Anytime somebody gives you a boatload of money,
they feel they can make more money than what they're paying you.
So if they're paying Joe Burrow $55 million,
how much do you think the Bengals are making?
On his jersey sales and ticket
sales?
Man, crazy.
Yes!
Crazy.
It's just
hard. It's hard for a football
player to sell shoes because
they associate cleats
with football players. They associate
track spikes with track athletes. Basketball,
Ocho, now it's cool
to wear a suit or a tuxedo
with sneakers.
What'd you call, you ever heard of a sneaker ball?
You know how they be having sneaker balls?
Yes.
You wear a tuxedo, you wear a suit,
and everybody wear sneakers?
Yes.
So,
it's just,
I don't know I just
somebody got to talk to him
and explain the
business side of it
I can see where he's coming from but if somebody sat down
and explained to him the business side of it
and how
it might make sense to him
but it doesn't make sense to Adidas
or it wouldn't make sense to him, but it doesn't make sense to Adidas or wouldn't make sense to Nike,
regardless of how popular
or how on fire and hot you are right now.
From a business standpoint,
to them, it just doesn't make sense.
Yeah, I mean, like Griffey,
but Griffey had a cross trainer.
Adam Griffey was nice, boy.
I got him.
Adam Griffey was nice.
The black with the teal.
The Mariners colors.
Then he had the
all white with the teal. Man, the thing's nice.
But Nike is not just
handing out shoes.
When Nike give you
a signature deal, they understand the
risk that they're taking.
That's why they're very particular.
You know, lifetime deals.
Only LeBron James, Michael Jordan, and Kevin
Durant have lifetime liquor deals
with Nike. Kyrie
had a very popular shoe.
They lost their mind. He
said something. He tweeted
posted something. And it's like, nah, he's
like, well, hell, I go somewhere else. They're
going to make me creative director. I designed my
own shoe. Got a nice shoe? I just don't think, I go somewhere else. They're going to make me creative director. I design my own shoe. Got a nice shoe?
Yeah.
I just don't think, I don't think Noah understands.
I think he's just looking at it like, I'm popular.
Give me a shoe.
And it just doesn't work like that.
Because think about the R&D, the research and development that's going to go into it.
I mean, they paid you $5 to $10, $15 million.
What does it cost to bring a shoe to market?
I don't know.
Listen, it might happen because he's making this kind of
noise, though. You never know.
It might happen because he's making this kind of noise.
It got to make sense. It's got to make dollars.
Is it going to make dollars?
Yeah.
Because if it doesn't make dollars, it doesn't make sense.
Yeah, the bottom line will always be the same, no matter what.
They gave a... doesn't make dollars it doesn't make sense yeah the bottom line will always be the same no matter what they gave they gave uh i mean you know like every you know like p-rod skate dunks i mean everybody you know they've had you know uh um jeff staples with the pigeon dunks. You know, some, some, everybody, everybody can't sell.
Travis Scott's done amazing.
Boy, Kanye has done amazing.
Yeah.
I mean, Kanye's with Nike, blah, blah, blah.
He's like, y'all don't want to do this.
Oh, he goes to Adidas.
He does Yeezy box office.
Yeah.
But there've been a lot of guys that they've given,
try to put their day in it.
It doesn't work.
So, I mean,
Asia
has a shoe now.
I think Angel
Reese has Reebok. I saw her shoe.
Her shoe looks nice.
I think they're coming out with a shoe for Kaitlyn Clark, right?
It's going to be like,
I don't think it's done yet. I think they're coming
out with a shoe.
There's somebody else with nike that has a shoe that's really dope i think it's for women though it's for women and it's joy i think it's jordan brand if i'm not mistaken i can't think of who it
is uh it's angel reese ant-man noah has 1.5 million ig followers, and has four plus million. Angel Reese, four million.
Nigel has his own skateboard shoe
and has almost six million IG followers.
Exposure matters.
It does.
Exposure matters.
Because you have to have a presence.
And they're on television.
I mean, I'm only going to see Noah
at the Olympics and the World Championships.
USAs. television i mean i'm only gonna see no at the olympics and the world championships usa's so really three four big meets a year and when you think about it it's just tough and i like it it's like man i'm doing there is a there is a track market for him though
there is a demand you know if it was but the demand that would make sense for the billionaire business or the billionaire entity
that is the dealers doesn't make sense to them no it makes sense to them
that's what has to make sense right yeah yeah because they're the one that's putting up the
money right you're right man you don't see my vision you don't see my what they say okay if
somebody doesn't see your vision somebody doesn't see your dream okay create on your own with your own money yep so i understand me it's frustrating um but you talk about carl lewis
um was one of the most one of the most popular sprinters in the history
definitely in america michael johnson michael johnson had a shoe. Usain had a shoe.
There were a few people that had shoes.
But I tell you who could get a shoe.
Sidney McLaughlin.
She has it all.
She has it all.
Yeah.
I mean, sometimes that's what she has, what it takes to sell.
Yeah. And she's a safe she's a safe you know what I mean
yes yeah she's safe you don't have to worry about
nothing you don't have to worry about her saying nothing to crazy and safe
and she's marketable she's marketable and she don't even open her damn mouth
she don't even talk much no she's marketable. She's marketable. And she don't even open her damn mouth. She don't even talk much.
No.
She's marketable.
Oh,
Joe,
but you know,
when it comes,
when it comes to women,
they have to have a certain look.
She got it.
Yeah.
She got to be able to produce.
She's a prodigy.
She was 15,
16 years old.
We knew about it when she was running down girls in high school.
She goes to college for a year.
Goes pro.
She
is the complete
package.
Clean. I'm talking
about nothing.
Yeah.
If you want to draw up,
say, I want a woman athlete.
I want a female athlete.
Sydney McLaughlin.
Yeah.
It is what it is, though, Joe.
I wish you was something I could
tell him different, but it's not.
Somebody in the chat said,
I should get a shoe deal.
A shoe deal. Talk about a shoe
called the cap, the cap and dunks, because I'm
always lying.
Hey, that was funny.
That was funny.
Listen, anything I say is not lies.
These are all life experiences and things that I know I'm capable,
capable of doing.
And you'll see.
That was funny.
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Unfortunately, we had technical difficulties
and we weren't able to play the sound,
and that created confusion.
Let's take a listen to the sound,
and then we'll talk about it afterwards.
Next guy.
Eric Christensen with CBS Sports Colorado. I'm not doing nothing with CBS. Next guy. Eric Christensen with CBS Sports Colorado.
Tyler.
I'm not doing nothing with CBS.
Next question.
Joe Regal, my honest voice.
It's above that.
I ain't got nothing to do with you.
I got love for you.
I appreciate and respect you.
I ain't got nothing to do with you.
They know what they did.
I'm here in Denver, not National.
You are who you are.
CBS is CBS. All right. Joe Regal, my National. You are who you are. CBS is CBS.
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That's why I told you that.
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They got me fucked up.
But the thing is, is that that's somebody's opinion.
What people think, we can't do anything about that.
We just keep doing what we do.
Time just have to keep coaching.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He tell the guys block out the noise, drown out the noise.
Time go put together a nine and three or 10 and two season.
That what they've been saying.
He time has been time has always been in the light.
So he knows people have always tried to take sort of shots.
Yeah.
They called him selfish when he tried to help the Braves win a title.
And he was also playing for the Falcons.
So they've always tried to help the Braves win a title and he was also playing for the Falcons so they've always tried to
put
label him as such
as being selfish
he's supremely confident
and rightfully so
I mean to play
professional football
and to be the best at something
and play baseball.
Hey,
you hear a lot of people saying,
oh, I can play basketball. Players say they can play football.
You ain't heard them say they're going to hit that
damn 100-mile-an-hour fastball, is it?
No, sir.
And talk at the time.
As a guy
that played both, the highest you can
play is MLB and
NFL he said it ain't even close
he said there also article
two days ago that probably added a prime
frustration the headline of the
article Shiloh Sanders filed bank
roughsy Colorado DB debt stem
from allegedly assaulting a security
guard in 2015
that's a chess move you know what that is
I ain't got to explain
it to you.
You know what to do.
That's a chess move. You know that.
I ain't got to explain that one.
50 did the same thing
years ago, remember?
No, but I'm saying time probably
probably means that they keep bringing it up.
They're pushing it out.
Man, they so green.
You know how the media is.
I mean,
Brian should be used to it.
You know how they do.
They're going to keep
playing with you.
But it's one thing
that cures all that, though.
MW's in the win column.
All that goes right away.
MW's in the win column.
And he addressed the issues.
He addressed the issues he addressed the issues
this offseason too
that's how I know
listen the team is going to be
different this year anyway
once you get them
beating potatoes
on that interior
offensively and defensively
okay now we can play ball
now we can play ball
that's where the
wink link was at
it wasn't on the outside
it wasn't the quarterback position
it definitely wasn't the skill position.
The difference from power five schools and everybody else
is not the skill position.
It's the meat.
The five that put their hand in the dirt on both sides of the ball.
So your five offensive linemen and the ones that put their hand in the dirt
on the defensive side.
Boy, listen.
You talk about some hogs, Unc.
But once you get them in there, but we could play ball now.
It evens the playing field.
The thing going to be different over there.
He going to be all right.
Put a few of them W's in there,
man.
Hit that,
hit that Jameson Winston on the ass.
Eat a few doves.
You're going to be straight.
Eat a few doves, bro. Eat a few doves.
You're going to be straight.
I call him, what do they call him?
I ain't say his name wrong.
Y'all call him Prime.
I call him Tan.
He's in my phone.
It's Tan.
I've always called him Tan.
Yeah, you never say Prime.
I don't ever call him Prime.
you never say pride I don't ever call it pride
look there are certain
like certain people you have relationships
with and that you call them
like I call him Ty
Ray I don't call Ray by his name
I call him Sugar
I call Ray Sugar too
everybody call him that
you got a chance to meet Lorenzo Neal before?
Yeah. Hey, boy,
him and Ray
at the Pro Bowl?
You talking about funny?
Oh my God, boy.
Boy, them... Yeah.
Most people.
Comedy.
Most
athletes... If you got a nickname, that's what we refer to you as. Right. I'm a D most, most people, like most athletes, like,
well,
you got a nickname.
That's what we refer to you as.
Right.
Right.
It is.
I mean,
it's,
I don't know what y'all,
I mean,
Oh,
you said it's not.
No,
I'm not.
Yeah.
I think everybody's in the chat.
I think I got a better relationship.
Do they know how long we all know in each other?
I'm just curious.
I guess not.
I don't think so.
Yeah. So,'t think so. Yeah.
So,
everybody,
I get nobody called
Ray Lewis sugar until I
got to Baltimore in 2000.
And now, damn near everybody, that's
what they refer to him as.
Okay, fine. I ain't calling no grown man sugar. That's fine. I ain't calling no grown man big daddy. Okay, fine. I ain't calling
no grown man sugar. That's fine.
I ain't calling no grown man Big Daddy. That's fine too.
Y'all don't have to.
But y'all didn't
go to no record store and say, hey, give me that Kane CD.
Y'all said Big Daddy Kane.
You see how y'all
pick and choose? What you know about
Big Daddy Kane, man? You don't know nothing about no Big Daddy
Kane, man. What you know about Cameo Kane, man? You don't know nothing about no Big Daddy Kane, man. What you know about
Cameo?
And they call, what they call
Allen Iverson, Bubba Chuck. Bubba Chuck?
That's what they call him. That's his nickname?
That's what they call him, yeah.
Oh.
Yeah. Look, I ain't
got no problem. Whatever
you want to be called, you want to be A.
You want to be A.
Got homeboy A. And what's it called?
For the longest time, his name was
Creature. That's what he called him.
Had a homeboy named
Frog Leg. That's what we
called him. I had a homeboy at the career named Fish.
Two Fish.
But we got some crazy names, bro.
I got a homeboy
in Gleaver right now.
I went to school with a dude.
Name was honey.
Everybody called.
Nobody ever called him.
His real name was Irvin.
Ain't nobody call him.
The coaches,
the teachers even called him honey.
Honey.
What?
Honey.
Tignor.
His name,
his real name was Irvin.
Yeah.
No. Once I got his brother okay frog legs
frog legs is the oldest brother
honey is
the baby boy he got another
brother that's a year older than my brother
they call him kick fire
I said man why they call you
I said man why people call you kick fire
he said I kick fire from the end
so man y', I kick fire from the end.
So, everybody, man,
y'all seen Kickfire? Man, I saw him up there at the store, the corner store, a little while
ago. If you're from the
South, and anybody that's from the South,
y'all know exactly what I'm talking about.
Got a homeboy, and he got another
brother named Piggy Pat. Piggy Pat.
Piggy Pat.
Kickfire, Honey, brother named piggy pat piggy pat piggy pat kick five honey frog leg piggy pat that's the four boys that's the nobody called me hell i couldn't even tell you frog leg real name i can't tell you
piggy pack real name as a matter of fact i couldn't even tell you creature real name
half the people you call them that for for so long. But the real name is.
I don't know what the damn real
name is, man. You don't call them that
their whole life.
But, hey.
But it is
what it is. Check this out.
Jared Jones has clarified his recent comments regarding CD Lamb
and his lack of urgency to come to terms on a contract extension
with the star receiver.
Jared said, I think I got in trouble the other day when I said,
look, we're not urgent about CD.
Oh, you think?
You think you got in trouble?
Because if you didn't think you got in trouble,
you wouldn't be addressing it right now.
But anyway, well, no one appreciates CD being on the field more than I do.
But let me say this.
He wouldn't be taking a snap out here today if he had been here.
Stop it.
He know what the fuck.
So you mean to tell me if CD Lamb had showed up, you was going to say,
CD, don't you take no snaps until we get your contract done.
You see?
I think he meant as far as playing.
Like, he wouldn't be playing in the preseason.
No.
Practicing. Oh, practicing. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Oh, you, he wouldn't be playing in the preseason. No. Practicing. Oh, practicing. Oh,
okay, okay, okay. Oh, you said he
going to be holding in? I mean,
Jamar showed up.
You see, he ain't practiced yet, though.
He
holding in.
But Jerry, every time,
every time, the mouth, putting
him in front of the cameras, it's unnecessary.
You know what you're saying.
You're well aware of what you're saying.
Why would you even utter that knowing you have a player that would like his money, which
is well deserved, based on the numbers in the production that he's put in for your team?
Why even say that?
As an owner.
It's not urgent.
And you know he's fighting for his money.
What do you think is going through CD's head?
Well, damn, that's how we feel?
Okay, bet.
I told you.
I told you. Now, I won't be surprised if CD
asks for a trade soon, now.
Oh, Dak won't be there this
afternoon. It's reported that Dak tweaked his ankle.
That's why he wasn't out there. And so,
the bottom line is, no, there's no urgency.
Now, I understand completely the angst that's happening.
And when you're anxious about it, someone says something,
you're missed out or not.
Well, CD, you're missed, okay?
But you're not missed out here competing,
and that doesn't put any pressure anyplace on us.
No, CD, don't worry about it.
You could.
Let them game.
Guess what? In 93, there was don't worry about it. You could. Let them game. Guess what?
In 93, there was no urgency to get no deal done.
And guess what happened? They started 0-2.
I bet they paid Emmitt Smith.
And they won the Super Bowl. He didn't Emmitt like that?
He sure did.
Oh, so this is the ongoing thing?
Yes. Oh, man. Okay.
Okay, so that's just how he operates.
Okay.
I understand.
With certain ones.
But why you do it with the good ones?
That don't make no sense.
He did it with Dez.
I don't know the team.
He did it with Dez.
He did it with Zeke.
Mm-hmm.
So what's he trying to prove?
Mm-hmm.
What statement is he trying to make?
What's the end goal?
What's the end goal?
What are you trying to say?
I don't want to win no more Super Bowls.
I think that's what he's trying to say.
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Ocho, now it's time for our last segment of the day. It is Q and A.
What's wrong with you, boy?
It's the way you said it.
Wait.
That's what he said.
He ain't trying to win no football.
Hell no. Jacob M said
what up Uncle Ocho
do you think men winning gold will lead to more confidence
and better seasons for each player
of Olympic night cap for the Dove
what you think Ocho
wait what was the question
he says do you think men winning gold
will lead to more confidence
and a better season for each player?
Olympic nightcap was a dub for the dove.
Yeah, I think so.
I think so.
The motivation will still be there regardless of winning gold or not.
Because when you're playing on the highest level,
obviously representing your country and you're playing at your regular job,
your day job, you're playing for not only for the team you play for,
but you're also playing for the name on the back of your jersey.
So I think the motivation will already be there.
And you're inclined to always play as well as you possibly can.
You know?
So I don't think it will change much.
Yeah.
I mean, I think the thing is for those guys, every guy over there, they're trying to get better.
Oh, yeah.
Guys want to be the face of the NBA.
Guys got $300 and $200 million contracts. Guys want to be the face of the NBA.
Guys got $300 and $200 million contracts.
You got to live up to that.
You got five and ten, and you're trying to get
better. There's something guys want to
see. I want to see how good I can actually
be. I want to contend for championships.
I want to be thought of as the best player
in the NBA. I'm talking about there are few.
I mean, Ant-Man has already told you.
Ant-Man going to everybody. He don't care who he is.
Jason Tatum wants to show. Jason
Tatum come back like, bro, that guy that
y'all saw sitting on the bench and not getting playing time
and playing two or three minutes, that ain't who I am.
Y'all know me.
I'm JT.
Three-time first-team All-NBA. That's me.
NBA champ.
Larry Bird Award winner. That's me. NBA champ. Larry Bird Award winner.
That's me.
I'm that JT.
Not that guy that y'all saw sitting on the bench.
Yeah.
That ain't me.
So absolutely the guys are going to be motivated.
LeBron wants to show, look, LeBron is going into year 22.
LeBron wants to show guys I'm still at the top of the food chain.
I'm still there. KD wants to say, hey, y'all know me guys I'm still at the top. I'm still at the top of the food chain. I'm still there.
KD wants to say, hey, y'all know me.
I'm Kevin Durant.
Y'all know who I am.
AD, Joel Embiid, Book.
Because they look at the guys that won gold medals,
and then when they came back, they still have a hunger.
They still have a desire.
Yeah. When they won the gold medal, look at Jordan came back. they still had a hunger. They still had a desire. Yeah.
When they won the gold medal,
look at Jordan came back.
Kobe didn't look at Kobe.
Kobe came back trying to get it.
Yeah.
LeBron, get it.
Yeah.
I mean, the pressure's already on them
regardless of the Olympics.
The pressure's already on them still.
Yes.
Still, like, y'all forgot. Did y'all forget I was still the greatest shooter? Mm-hmm. Yes. Y'all forgot, y'all?
Did y'all forget I was still the greatest shooter?
Okay, y'all forgot.
Y'all talk about them first four games. Y'all forgot.
Y'all forgot about those stuff. Okay, let me cook
something up for y'all.
You would definitely cook. I got something for you.
Bonnie
Qwerty. I think that's how you say her name.
Much love from Maryland. Love you both.
And Nightcap community. It's been a great Olympic run.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hopefully everybody enjoyed our coverage of the Olympics.
Next time, hopefully, even in the World Championships in 25 in Tokyo,
we'll do a better job.
I think athletes seeing how we did this
I think they'll be more apt to want to come on
and talk
about their sport because they see
the reach that we have Ocho
and so I think we'll have even more
athletes
that come on and talk about
their races about other things going on
now I can't make no promises I'm going to ever be
able to get Sidney McLaughlin, so, LeBronie.
So, I ain't finna make that promise,
but I ain't going to be for lack of trying.
I ain't going to be for lack of trying
now. I mean,
even if you don't just come on and say, hey, guys,
and go off,
we're going to get some.
That's enough.
We're going to get some.
Scott Sorensen
said,
what do you think of our prospects for LA Olympics in 2028
with the home field advantage?
Man, I remember how we went crazy in 84.
Yeah.
I was there.
I was there.
I was there.
The boxing.
I mean, I think we won.
I think there was 12 medals, 12 weight classes.
I think we won like 10 think there was 12 medals, 12 weight classes. I think we won like
10 golds or silver in a bronze.
We did.
We damn near did what
the Chinese did
in diving, where they
swept the gold medals. In table
tennis, they swept.
So,
oh yeah, I do think
guys, obviously, everybody fights harder in their own backyard. so oh yeah I do think I think you know guys obviously
everybody fights harder in their own
backyard
so I'm
super excited I'm going
I don't give a damn about no traffic
I'm going I'm going to see track and field
I'm going to see a basketball
event
I'm going I'm going I got I got to
see it I mean you know that's what my bucket
you know been to a what my bucket list,
you know,
been to a Superbowl,
been to a world series game,
seven,
been to an NBA finals game.
I've been to all-star games,
you know,
Pro Bowl,
MLB,
all-star,
NBA,
all-star.
So I've been to a lot of things,
the Olympic,
the Olympics and Wimbledon.
They're on my bucket list.
So, okay. Oh, the Olympics and Wimbledon, they're on my bucket list so okay, can you explain
why the 4x4 and the 800 meters
runners start in staggered lanes
and then switch
to lane 1, that seems like
they have to cover a little bit more ground
by switching
actually, you know, they don't
because when they start outside they got
a covered distance but you know they that's why they started outside you start outside so the guys
on the inside they get it hey they get to go look but see the four by four is staggered because you
got what lanes one through eight and so it's based on time so and sometimes you get preference i mean
i think the fastest time you get to start, like,
Carson Warhol, when he normally gets the fastest time,
he loves to start in lane seven.
He loves to start far out, be damned to be into the curtain.
And so then, you know, they pass it off to the second leg.
And the second leg, I think they have to go like 100 meters,
maybe 150 meters before they can move over to lane one.
You got to really go, too.
But that's just the way it's been set up.
So I'm not so – you know what?
It's funny that you say that because, like, when we ran track,
we never did that.
We didn't do that in high school.
When we got the baton in the 4x4, where we – hey,
you jockeying for a position look at your guy okay your guy he's back there you might be in the fifth slot and then all of a sudden he come you try to bump the guys ah man come on you see my
guy in front so you jockeying for position um but man both 400 meters look the women's weren't
contested i wish it was a little bit more contested
because I think they could have got the world record.
I mean, Sid ran, what, 41, 47, 71 with no push.
What does she run if she's pushed?
If she's pushed like Rob Benjamin,
what does she run?
Ain't no telling.
She might go sub 47,
which is crazy
that I'm even saying that.
I mean, at least she's going
low 47.
Think of a woman that can go sub 47,
but she's going low 47
with push.
You don't know what a person can do
until they're pushed.
Nobody thought they could
run that fast until Usain Bolt
got pushed the first 50 meters
and the funny thing is
it push
hell he had to catch the fuck up
when you think about it
so
hey Stephen Bass 314 said
you're really a true black role model much love
from one of your biggest fans question have you ever had
a friend that was close to you
as bucket burns
that ended up falling out with
yeah
happens move on
that was his life I mean
um unfortunate it is it is half of his life. I mean, um,
unfortunate.
It is.
It is.
It is.
But it's,
it's not the end of the world.
Um,
I didn't come in the world with,
with,
with anybody.
I'm,
I'm,
I'm going to leave out of it by myself.
But,
you know,
it's,
it's unfortunate because when you close someone and, you know, you've been to their home, they've been in yours and you've exchanged stories.
Your families know each other.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you know what, Ocho?
Things happen.
Yeah.
I'm not the first.
I won't be the last.
I mean, there are people that have had people that have been, you know, they've been close with 30, 40 years.
But it's all good. I don't
think about the friends that I
don't have anymore. I just worry about the friends
that I do have.
Bucket Burns,
guys that I'm cool with now, I'm good.
It happens, but
it's not the end of the world.
Ocho, this
concludes
our Olympic.
So this is our closing ceremony.
We're going to put a button on this, put this in a nice bow. Yeah.
Huh?
Oh, yeah, unless we get Sydney.
Now, if we get Sydney McLaughlin.
We'll be coming back.
We'll be coming back.
A special edition.
She will be part of the NFL season if we get Sydney.
She can interrupt any of the normal scheduling programming on Nightcap.
Sid, she absolutely can.
Guys, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.
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share some insight from his stories of being in Paris,
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But hey, he felt he was in position to win the gold and should have won it.
Played, dealt with some things mentally that he was able to shake off or he's
shaking off so we thank you niger for coming on we greatly appreciate that the u.s women make it
eight straight narrowly escaping france on home soil 67 66 uh they win the gold medal gabby
williams heave at the buzzer was banked in, but her foot was
on the line. And so instead of going into overtime,
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break down the latest matches, including the US Open.
Plus hear from some of the biggest names in the sport about what the future holds.
It's about belief.
And once you break through that, then you know you can win a Grand Slam.
Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast every Monday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One,
founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.