Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Ja Morant balling out, Zion's tattoo, Durant's frustrations with Suns

Episode Date: December 28, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Gilbert Arenas react to Ja Morant leading the Grizzlies to a 4-0 record since returning from suspension, Zion's strange new chest tattoo, Lakers players clashing with Darvin Ham dur...ing their recent skid. Kevin Durant reportedly frustrated with Suns' "underwhelming supporting cast" and the entire Wednesday night slate in the NBA. 0:00 - Introduction03:30 - Cavs beat Mavericks09:45 - Thunder beat Knicks21:00 - 76ers beat Magic38:00 - Suns Beat Rockets47:00 - Unc Goes OFF on Kevin Durant58:00 - Will KD ever be happy?1:08:00 - Why Draymond acts out1:18:00 - Lakers lineup issues1:41:00 - Ja Morant balls out1:56:00 - Zion's wack tattoo2:02:00 - Sex lives of NBA players #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:03 Friday on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us. Welcome to another episode of Nightcap Basketball Edition. I'm your favorite sports hunk, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number zero. He's also the greatest Arizona Wildcat hoop player
Starting point is 00:02:28 in the history of the program. The man once dropped, he did drop 60 in a game against the Lakers. Gil, agent zero, arenas. Gil, what's going on, bro? Hey, man, who you been talking to? Hey, there's only a small few people who think I'm the best Arizona
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Starting point is 00:03:27 11.30 a.m. Pacific time. That's 2.30 p.m. Eastern time. 11.30 a.m. Pacific 2.30 p.m. Eastern. So make sure you check out Gil. He has some very interesting takes. He and his
Starting point is 00:03:43 cast. We've also pinned Shay by LaPortier link at the top of the chat. New Year's right around the corner. Then Valentine's Day, then President Day. So make sure you go out and support your favorite. Grab yourself a bottle for you or someone you love. So thank you, guys. Gil, let's get right into it. Luke and the Mavs collapse in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Lose against the Cavs 113-110. The Cavs overcame a 20-point deficit, outscored the Mavericks 31-20 in the fourth quarter. No Donovan Mitchell, no Darius Garland, no Evan Moe. Karras Lavert, 29 points, and a gutsy late three for the lead. Jared Allen had 24 points, 23 rebounds. I guess he was responding to Andre Drummond's 24 and 25 against the Hawks yesterday.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Luka, 39-7-6 was not enough. What did you take away from this ballgame? It's usually your bench. Dallas, they have one superstar. This reminds me of Jordan when he came into the league. Luka's
Starting point is 00:04:43 so good where we think that, you know, Dallas Maverick is a contender. They're good. No, he's good. Yeah. They're not good. You know,
Starting point is 00:04:52 your third best player, which is your second best player now, comes off the bench, right? It lets you know where the team is. And, you know, he was just outmatched. You know,
Starting point is 00:05:02 it's basically him versus, you know, Cleveland five. Now, which is embarrassing He was just outmatched. It's basically him versus Cleveland 5, which is embarrassing because without the no Donovan Minchins, no Darius Garland, no Evan Mobley. So the Cavs are down three starters. You can't lose that game on your home court, especially being up by 20, Gil. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:21 But when you have players like LaVert coming off the bench, where he was a big factor in this game, where it came off with 29 off the bench. Right. You know, he was a big, big key when Brooklyn was when when he was with Brooklyn. Right. Yes. So, you know, he can play and that's what's coming off the bench. So you got guys that steps up that you normally don't count on. But that's what having deep rosters is like. So when you do need players like that, they can really count for one game.
Starting point is 00:05:50 So it's just one of those games where Dallas got a little overzealous, as you can say. Yeah, and when you look at it, I'm looking at this ball game and I'm saying, okay, Hardaway Jr. is a nice player. You got Dante Exum, who's been playing well. Grant William, who you signed in free agency. I just don't know how you you get up by that minute and just blow the game.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I mean, they basically blew that ball game. They had a 20 point lead. And maybe and I don't know, maybe you can tell me if I'm wrong, but I know sometimes we have a propensity to relax. If a team, I know in football, oh, they ain't got their starting quarterback. They're down their starting running back. They're down their starting receiver or their best this or their best that. And sometimes you find yourself, you take that for granted. But normally you don't see that happen in football. A team get a 14, 17 point lead without a team's best players
Starting point is 00:06:42 and the other team that doesn't have those best players come back and win now we see this a 20 point lead in today's game is not the same as a 20 point lead 20 years ago gill 30 years ago facts facts facts because the guys can shoot the three balls so much better because i don't remember i mean when i was growing up i don't remember got teams coming back from 26 and 28 points in a ball game because normally, okay, it's time to watch something else. It's time to do something else. We're going to go outside and play ball on our own. Y'all down by 26, 28.
Starting point is 00:07:14 But the way they shoot the three ball, a couple of threes, a couple of turnovers, and the next thing you know, a 28-point lead is 18. And then they go on another spurt, another 10-0 run. So now an 18-0 run and now you're down 10 when you're just down 28 but uh Seth Curry uh played a good game he had 19 points Luca uh as I mentioned had 39 Dante Exum had 13 Derrick Jones had 12 uh and uh Tim Hardaway Jr. had 14 but you look at uh Cleveland, Isaac Okoru had 22.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Jared Allen, 24 and 23, as we mentioned. Karis LeBert had 29. George Nye, 16. You got to win that one, though, Gil. You got to. Those are the ones that you kick yourself in the ass later because you let this get away from you. With that being said,
Starting point is 00:08:09 what gets you in the leads is also what takes you out. Because this is a three-point shooting league now, you can go up by 20 and you can go down by 20. You shoot four or five straight threes, bricks them, and then they make three or four or five. You just cut
Starting point is 00:08:24 that lead down. And that's what's happening in today's game, where there's no lead that's safe, because when you're up, you're not going to get twos and get to the free throw line. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're trying to add the same method that got you back. There's one thing
Starting point is 00:08:39 that I have a problem with, is this. Everyone shouldn't shoot the goddamn ball. But I know we need to put up, you know, a certain amount of threes, but not you, not you,
Starting point is 00:08:51 not you. Because when we're up 20, everybody else feels like they can shoot. This is my time to shoot. Like, no, it's not your time to shoot. But Gil,
Starting point is 00:09:02 have you ever seen a situation where all of a sudden the team is hot and everybody and you see this a lot in mop up duty. A team is like up by 20 with like two minutes to go in the ballgame. And all of a sudden they call timeout and they sub everybody out. And even the backups come in and they launch them and they're going in. Now you put them guys in a regular meaningful game and they can't buy a basket. But seemingly when they're up by 20, no one can miss a shot. And I think the thing is,
Starting point is 00:09:27 what you're alluding to, is that all of a sudden, everybody, if they feeling good, they making threes, hey, let me try one. No, bro, bro. You need nothing but two. Actually, you need dunks and putbacks.
Starting point is 00:09:37 You don't need anything outside the paint. Yeah, no, yeah. When you a bench player, the game's down, you down by 20, you up by 20, that is the perfect scenario for it because you have no pressure on you. So you just get to go out there and just shoot how you want to shoot. That's like practice for you. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:56 You just get to throw up shots, and sometimes that costs you when a team still has their starters in. Yeah, yes. You know, when a team still has their starters in. Yeah. Yes. So the Mavericks lose. They collapse to the Cavs, lose 113-110 after being up by 20 points. The Cavs outscore them by 11 in the fourth quarter to take a 113-110 victory.
Starting point is 00:10:18 The Thunder beat the Knicks 129-120. The explicit duo of Shea Gildress, Alexander, and Jalen Williams combined for 72 points. Shea Gildress had 36- and Jalen Williams combined for 72 points. Shea Gildress had 36, 8, and 7. Jalen, Williams. I think everybody names Williams in the state of Oklahoma played for the Thunder. He had 36 on 5 of 5, 3, 76% field goal. He was 13 of 17. Chet Holmgren had 22.
Starting point is 00:10:39 And the Thunder now moved to 20 and 9. I like the Thunder, Gil. I like them. I do, too, but they're young, right? Yes. They're going to give you those days where, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:48 they're going to be clicking because you know, your best player shape, he has it right. He understands the game. He's dominating the game right now. He, uh, for the last three,
Starting point is 00:10:57 four or five years, he's been shown that he is a superstar. So yes, him leading the charge. It's easier for everybody else to just chip in here and there so they have great players around Shea that can just do what they do and don't have to worry about the heavy lifting yeah uh he I mean man I love Shea I mean he has he has a tremendous pull step back he can get to the rack. He can finish with either hand. He's a little bit more explosive because you think he's going to lay it up,
Starting point is 00:11:28 and he will flush it on you. He got a nice little three game. That's not in his arsenal, but he can get hot and hit the three. As you mentioned, Williams, I saw him against the Lakers a couple days ago. Even though the Lakers won, he can stroke it from three. He can really shoot the ball from outside. Chet Holmgren, he's up and coming. He needs to add about 10 pounds
Starting point is 00:11:48 to that frame. But what I like about him, he ain't just jacking up threes. He'll try to put the ball on the floor and try to get to the rim. He'll try to poke it on you. And he's challenging everything. You might flush on him, but he's going to block two or three shots. He's going to alter two or three shots.
Starting point is 00:12:04 So he's going to impact the game three shots. He's going to alter two or three shots. So he's going to impact the game from a defensive perspective for about 10 points because he's going to block two or three of your shots. He's going to alter two or three of your shots and maybe he'll make the time of possession run out on a few of your shots. So he's going to account for 10 points. That's why they're so
Starting point is 00:12:19 good defensively, even though they are young. But I like this team. They can get up and down. They can play a lot of different styles. They got young guys. And when you know young guys, you don't know any better. You don't know anything about being tired. But I love Shea Gilgis and Alexander. And maybe,
Starting point is 00:12:36 maybe, Kawhi went a little bit too fast. Because how do you think the Clippers, and we're going to continue on with this, but how do you think the Clippers would look with Shea Gilgress and Kawhi? I would be better than see, that's now you see why
Starting point is 00:12:51 like, you know, you question that upper management, like what did you see? When did you see, you know, I guess they were trying to win right now and, you know, it was more of a package deal for Kawhi Kawhi wanted to be towards them. Yeah, he wanted, it was more of a package deal for Kawhi. Kawhi wanted PG. Yeah, he wanted it.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I heard Doc was talking, and he tried to explain it. He's like, you need to give this guy a year. He's like, Kawhi, he's really good. And he said, well, if you don't get me PG, I'm going to go to the team across the hallway. And they could ill afford to have that because that would have been a death sentence for the Clippers. You cannot have LeBron, AD, and Kawhi across the hall.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And then all you have is what you've got. So I understand they had to make the move and they gave up a King's ransom to get PG. But when you look at it and you look at it player for player right now, Shea Gildress is a better player than PG. And he has been for the last couple of years. Shea, I shame i mean to be honest he might be a better player than both of them right now you might be right he might be you know you know he might be right like he is i won't fight you i won't debate you about it like you know what i mean like it can go either way at this point but you know he's steady he's humble he trains he's work i mean every summer he comes back he he's added something to his game
Starting point is 00:14:06 yes and you know clippers is going to always kick themselves you know in the butt when they look back at some of the trades they made versus what they have now um but you know just like anything you're always trying to move pieces to get um better pieces when you don't know that what's fool's gold and what's real gold. What's that gym hiding in the hay? One of those type of players. Right. You look
Starting point is 00:14:34 at the Knicks. R.J. Barrett gave them 14. Julius Randle gave them 25. Devin Chinzo gave them 17. Jalen Brunson was 24. Quickly was 22. But they let the uh, even Chinzo gave him 17. Jalen Bronson was 24, uh, quickly was 22, but they let,
Starting point is 00:14:51 they let the Thunder shoot a very high percentage and Thibodeau team is normally known for defense, but it's seemingly the, the Thunder were able to get whatever they wanted. Now it's, it look, it's very difficult. I mean, to try to say,
Starting point is 00:15:00 okay, we're going to, I understand you got Josh Hart and I understand RJ Barrett and even Chinzo, but ain't nobody, ain't nobody stopping, say, okay, I understand you got Josh Hart, and I understand R.J. Barrett and Devin Chinzo, but ain't nobody stopping Shea from getting where he wants to go. He's going to get his shot because you try to beat him to the punch, and now he's going to pull back and shoot that little 12-foot, 14-foot shot, and he's going to swish it. And then all of a sudden, you think he's going to pull back,
Starting point is 00:15:21 he pulls, has it, and now he's landing up off the glass, or he's landing up either way, left-handed or right-handed, in the cup. So, and if they're going to shoot it like this, if they're going to shoot the ball like this, they got, look, Chet, as I said, Chet's going to challenge everything. You got Lou Dort, who's a quality defender, who can get hot and shoot the ball from three. And they got guys that can shoot the ball from three.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I mean, when you look at this team, Jalen Williams can shoot it from three. Kendrick, he's more of a down low player, but he can get hot. Jalen Williams, well, J-A-L-E-N and J-Y-L-I-N. Like I said, everybody named Williams in Oklahoma plays for the Thunder. But they got a nice young basketball team. Isaiah Joe, he can shoot the three ball, because I remember him last year when I was at the game in which LeBron passed Kareem.
Starting point is 00:16:10 And every time the Lakers make a run, one of these Williams or Isaiah Joe would make a three to quell that run. So I was really impressed with the Thunder, and I think they're only going to get better. Josh Giddey, he's not having the season because he normally by now
Starting point is 00:16:25 probably have what two or three triple doubles yeah yeah I think with him you know besides the off the court you know situation that's you know looming around him I think with Chet there it takes the ball out of his
Starting point is 00:16:42 hand more yes with Shea being more dominant, you don't need Giddy. Right. Giddy's a movable piece at this point. You don't need him. His upside has dropped very, very drastically. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:56 The Knicks squad, I'm never going to be impressed with them. It reminds me. They small. Like Thibodeau, you have two guys that's playing 30 plus minutes, scoring four and two. Four and four. What is the point of them being on the
Starting point is 00:17:13 court when someone's averaging 20, 30 points? Yeah. Josh Hart played 34 minutes and he gave you four points. Yeah, that's wasted minutes. You have Isaiah. Was it Isaiah? Hardenstein? Yeah. But he's your center because, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:29 the big guy went out. I mean, because they're all real undersized team. If you look at them, Hardenstein now is their largest player. So, I mean, you got to play a big because you got Julius Randle. Obviously, Randle's got to play. R.J. Barrett, they're decent size. But when you look at it, I mean, they're not a big team Randle's got to play R.J. Barrett. They're decent size.
Starting point is 00:17:45 But when you look at it, I mean, they're not a big team. That's why I don't think they can do anything in the East because everybody else is ginormous. You look at Boston has great side with Przinga's, JT, and JB. They have great size with them. We know Milwaukee has trees with Giannis and Bobby Portis and Brooke Lopez and Joel Embiid.
Starting point is 00:18:08 And they come with I think it's Reid. Who's the backup center? I ain't talking about Mo Bamba. I ain't talking about him. No, I'm not talking about him. But they got big guys that can back you down and I don't know who can deal with, who can actually in a seven game
Starting point is 00:18:24 series for the Knicks, I know they can win one game because Jalen Brunson can get hot and give you 50. We've seen Julius Randle, he can get hot and he can give you 30 and he can give you 30, 40 and 15. But in a four game, to win four games against Milwaukee
Starting point is 00:18:40 or Boston or Philly, I don't believe they can do it. Do you think they can win a series against one of those three teams? No, not those teams. The only team they can beat, and I said it last year, the only team y'all can beat here is playing against Cavs, and that's who they got. You know, Cavs or Toronto.
Starting point is 00:18:55 You can beat one of those teams with a player like Brunson. You know, once you start getting to that second round and you start going against them Giants, it's really hard to win with that lineup. I mean, your best, most dominant player is small. Becky Hammond said it right. They don't have a 1A player. They don't.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Brunson is a great, great second player or third or coming off the bench as that it guy. It's hard for small guys to win a title, Gil. I mean, you look at the history of the game as lead dogs. It's been Steph Curry and it's been Isaiah Thomas.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah. And now, don't take anything away from AI. Chuck was outstanding. And he put up big numbers, led the league in scoring. Obviously, we know what he is. He was a historic player. But to win a championship, man, like I said, you got to be Steph Curry,
Starting point is 00:19:45 who we know is transcendent, and Isaiah. Those are only – I'm telling you, when I say small, and I guess Steph Curry, what did you say, Steph, is 6'2", 6'2 1⁄2"? 6'3 1⁄2". 6'3 1⁄2". Isaiah is 6'1". But when you start talking about is Brunson 6'0"? With shoes on, he's 6'2".
Starting point is 00:20:03 He made it. So when you, when you talk, when we talk about small, now we know the big guard, we know, we know, uh,
Starting point is 00:20:09 uh, magic and we know Jordan guys of that, but man, for them, for them, little guards, man, you're asking an awful lot.
Starting point is 00:20:16 It's a, it's an awful lot because if that's your best player, and it's not like he's athletic or like he's, he's long, right? You know, where he can make up some of the height. Slack and flat, yeah. But he's small, stubby, compact, right? You know, it's like he's not a Chauncey Billups,
Starting point is 00:20:39 but if you put him with like LeBron, great. If you put him with Boston, great. When he's the best player on a team, you really don't have a chance because he has to do so much being limited. And he's very limited at his size. I mean, I compared him to IT, and to be honest, I'm pretty sure IT is offended
Starting point is 00:21:00 because IT was a two-time All-Star averaging 29. Don't compare me to dude. He ain't even on that level. But that's just the case. When you're small, like Iverson, you got to average 32, 33, 24. I can get that from any guard. I can get that from any guard. But what he does bring is he brings leadership
Starting point is 00:21:19 and knowing how to get a great bucket in the last five minutes of the game. Yeah, he's sensational with that. So OKC wins that ballgame 129-120. The Sixers beat the Magic minus Joel Embiid 112-92. Sixers' first win without Embiid this season in five tries. Philly takes 17 more shots than Orlando. Tyrese Maxey had 23 points to lead them. DeAnthony Melton stepped up
Starting point is 00:21:48 tonight. He had 22 8-13 field goals. He was plus 24. Tyrese Maxey credits James Harden for helping him develop into an all-NBA caliber talent. First, let's get to the Sixers beat the Magic without Joel Embiid
Starting point is 00:22:04 and then we can address Tyrese Maxey comments, credit, flowers for James Harden. What do you like? Minus Joel, obviously we know what Joel Embiid. He's averaging 35 points a game. He's giving you 10, 11 rebounds a game. Now he's giving you five or six assists a game. So now he's the complete package. And he's a dominant force on the defensive end.
Starting point is 00:22:24 So he's giving you 35. He's assisting complete package. And he's a dominant force on the defensive end. So he's giving you 35. He's assisting on six. So we assume that at least two of those are going to be three. So now he's basically giving you about 45 to 50 points a night with his points and assists. So you know you got that. You know you see Tyrese Maxey blossoming, growing right in front of our eyes.
Starting point is 00:22:45 He's giving you 25 to 30 on a nightly basis. And some nights he can give you 35, 40. What do you like most about the Sixers? Without him being there, they're way better than Orlando. Orlando's young, right? They're a young team. So you expected Sixers to win this, right? You still got Harris over there.
Starting point is 00:23:05 You still got Oubre. You got solid veteran guys who know how to play this game, right? You would expect Maxie to come out and try to score 40 tonight, right? Because Embiid's not here like, oh, I get to get off. But the way the game is being played, he realized that he still
Starting point is 00:23:21 manages the game. Embiid is not going to get this ball, but Oubre can get some shots. You have Harrison get some shots. Milton can get some shots. So he still did his job as a point guard getting the team involved.
Starting point is 00:23:38 When usually a young guard would try to make up the point difference for his star center. Yeah, he was really good. He's going to get the max contract. And I think the max contract this year, especially he's going to be, I think he's going to make the all-star team.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And so now he has another bargaining chip in it. So whatever the max was last year, I'm assuming it's gone up a little bit. At 5%, there's a 5% inflation tax. Max contract number. But I like Tyrese Maxey. He credited James Harden with helping him develop into an all-NBA player. What's he saying for our lay people at home?
Starting point is 00:24:17 What is he saying? Yes. See, people don't realize how great James Harden was at putting that ball in that basket. I think we the last two years, we judged him on outside things and not realized what he was very skilled at, right? You know, you got to go back to that 2018, 2019 season
Starting point is 00:24:39 where he averaged, what, 36? Out of the last 61 games he scored 30 plus 46 of those games out of 61 games he scored 40 he scored 30 or more 46 times 20 or more all 61 times that's a different breed of a score so if i I'm Maxie, I'm soaking up everything. I don't care where he's at right now. I know what's here and I want to train with you. I want to pick your brain.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I want to know what you know because this type of level of scoring, there's only really two other guards that really this Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant who went on runs like this. Yes. yes yeah were you talking about out of the last 61 games of the season 20 or more all 61 that's impressive yes and I think the thing is what we remember James Harden at his absolute apex in Houston. And we, and he turned himself in more of a facilitator at Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:25:46 So we didn't see that 50, that 50 point triple double. We didn't see the 60 point triple doubles. We saw a guy somewhere in the mid twenties, give you a triple double. And if Katie was out, he took the onus. He could score more. If Kyrie was out, he could take the off onus and score even more. But normally when one of those other guys were out, it was great because he understood, yes, I can get my shot, but I need to get these other guys involved. When he went to Philly, he became more of a
Starting point is 00:26:14 facilitator leading the NBA in assists last year because of Joel Embiid. It's hard. I don't see a situation where you shouldn't lead the NBA in assists if you got Joel Embiid to dump it down to. He's going to give you 30 a night anyway. A lot of those are going to come from the foul line. But when I
Starting point is 00:26:30 look at, when you look at guys, and that's what I said, as a veteran player, give that knowledge. Because a lot of times, Gil, man, he ain't taking my job. I ain't helping him. Facts. Facts. And we see this chat with a lot of times in the NFL
Starting point is 00:26:46 with the quarterbacks. It's not my job to get him ready. It's not my job to help him. It's almost like, bro, if you securing yourself, he can't beat you out for the job. If you are what you believe he is, pass the information on. It'll serve you well. What good is all that information
Starting point is 00:27:02 to hoard it? Spread it. Yeah. But I love Tyrese Maxey and I love the fact that he gave James Harden. Since James Harden is the reason, I'm watching him. And you should. You should be able to get better by being on the same court, by practicing with, picking his brain, watching what he does, see how he breaks down a defense, how he orchestrates and leads. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:27:24 How he breaks down a defense, how he leadsrates and lead, excuse me, how he breaks down a defense, how he leads an offense. You should get better. You should. But everybody don't. Right. Does everybody want to get better? No. Everyone ain't built for the same altitude.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Right. Right. You know what I mean? And that's usually the most frustrating part where you have someone like a James Harden who he's he's an eagle. Right. Right. And playing with some pigeons and he's trying to get them to. His altitude, knowing that if they get there, they're going to die. Right. So now he has to come down and play pigeon basketball while getting killed by the media for playing pigeon basketball. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:05 And then that's where you have this fine line between being selfish and being a team player where I can average 36 on this team. They trash. But if I make the right plays and pass these guys at a ball, they're not capable of it. So should I average 22, 11 assists and we lose so I can prove that this team sucks? Or do I just average 36 points and you just keep calling me selfish?
Starting point is 00:28:32 That is a big thing in the NBA. That is a big fight in the NBA with the star player. When the pressure from the outside is like, why he ain't pat? Because my team ain't good. They not, they can't step up to this level.
Starting point is 00:28:49 They don't want to work. Like I worked out three times a day, every day when I got to Washington. I seen in my years, Karan was the most consistent. Larry Hughes a few times, Antoine Jamison a few times. That's it. In my extra work. So when I come
Starting point is 00:29:13 in at 9 o'clock at night, 11 o'clock at night, 1 in the morning, I've only seen a few players out of my whole career. Everybody don't want it. You can't make them. And see, that's what people don't understand. There's a price to be paid for greatness.
Starting point is 00:29:33 And if you're not willing to pay that price, you don't deserve to be great. I don't care how much you talk about it. Because see, professional sport is the one thing that you can't talk your way in or out. Because you're going to have to prove it. The proof is in the pudding. So you telling me all this what you're doing,
Starting point is 00:29:48 I don't see it manifesting itself because I'm a firm believer, Gil, that if you work, I don't care what it is, if you work at something, you will get incrementally better. I'm not going to say you're going to be, if you finger paint, I'm not going to say you're going to be Picasso.
Starting point is 00:30:03 I'm not going to say you're going to be, you know, Da Vinci or Michelangelo. I'm not saying that, but you will get better. Yes. Even if it's marginally. This is what I said about Ben Simmons. I didn't see any improvement from Ben Simmons from his rookie year to his fifth year. And people are all bad. You don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I said, I'm telling you, there's no possible way that this man can be putting in the time that he says he's putting in, and I don't see any improvement. You know what's so funny? He is one of those rare cases, Unc. I've watched him three summers. I've watched him three summers, and what I'm watching is
Starting point is 00:30:42 a superstar basketball player, right? Like, I'm watching is a superstar basketball player. Right? Like I'm sitting here. He can shoot the ball. He's coming downhill. Right? He's dominating these other superstars. They were scared of this man every summer because he's going to pick up full court.
Starting point is 00:31:00 You know, in the summer, you're trying to be a... He's picking up full court and he's coming at you. Debt perception is a real thing. A lot of shooters, a lot of guys that can't shoot is because they've been practicing in these small gyms, and then when they get to that arena, they can't eye gouge that damn rim. Wow.
Starting point is 00:31:25 When he plays in the game, he don't shoot the ball because I don't think he knows that distance. I've watched this man. It's like, why don't you shoot the ball in the game? Right? Like your foot, the mechanics is great. And I think that rim, in practice, there's that wall right there. It's open space
Starting point is 00:31:52 in that arena. So I always made it a stance myself to the night before, I'm going to get in that rim. I'm going to get in that, if there was no hockey game, I'm going to get on the main court and get some shots up. You got to practice in that arena. You can't practice in these small gyms and then get to the main court and get some shots up. You got to practice in that arena. You can't practice in these small gyms and then get to the arena
Starting point is 00:32:08 and think your shot is that. And I think that there's a couple things with that, and I think when he gets to that game, I think he just freezes up. He's scared to make mistakes. Yeah, that's a lot of it because we saw that in the game seven against Atlanta when they had that lead. You see, the thing is, Gail, I can teach you to swim if you're not afraid of the water. See, I can't teach you to shoot if you're afraid to miss it.
Starting point is 00:32:38 See, it's not that he can't shoot. He's afraid to shoot. That's two different things. Not being able to swim and being afraid of the water are two different things. Because you're afraid. Well, he was afraid. That's why he didn't shoot. That's why. And I remember saying it.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I said, and Doc, I remember Doc said, anybody that doesn't think that we're going to play, that we're going to take Ben Simmons out and we're not going to play him in the fourth quarter, they don't know basketball. I said, Doc, it's going to come a time you're going to have no choice. I said, because he's a liability. I said, because if the team is down by 10, and it's outside of two minutes, I'm filing him every trip down the court, I'm going to file him. Y'all are not going to get that ball to Joel Embiid.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And that's what Atlanta did and got back into the game every single time. And then when it came time, he had a dunk and he passed it. When you're mentally not comfortable, it shows at the worst time in games. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Right? I remember when I came back off an injury and my free throws wasn't on. Right? Now, because my free throws is not where they're supposed to be, I'm scared to drive
Starting point is 00:33:57 because I don't want to get hit so I don't have to shoot that free throw. That's a thing. Now I'm driving not to get fouled so I don't have to go to the throw. Right. That's a thing. Right. Now I'm driving not to get fouled. Cause so I don't have to go to the free throw line. Right. So when you start looking at the game, once that,
Starting point is 00:34:11 once that player gets into his own mind, there's nothing the coach can do. There's nothing the opponent can do. He's already beaten himself up. Right. Right. Like there was times where, when I was on my free throws,
Starting point is 00:34:25 I talked to myself, cash money, baby. None but net. Cash money, baby. Like I had to talk myself into everything I'm doing. Cash money, buckets. Like it's a thing that
Starting point is 00:34:36 when you're on that court, you miss 10 straight shots. If you're not self-confident, you're going to miss another 10. That's when you start wide open layup, you miss it or you got a layup and you finally get your point, your teammate goal tended, everything starts going wrong.
Starting point is 00:34:54 You free throw and go in, free throw violation. Everything just starts going wrong and it just keeps you down that spiral. You just got to be self-aware to get yourself out of it. I think that's what keeps you down that spiral. Then you just got to be self-aware to get yourself out of it. And I don't think I think this was at that moment.
Starting point is 00:35:10 I agree. I think the number one thing Gil is this is what I tell a lot of people. Whether it's sports or life, don't you become an opponent? Because a lot of times we can become our own opponent. And that's even more lethal than the opponent for the opposing team.
Starting point is 00:35:25 It's us. We create an opponent that we cannot beat in that self. And so what Ben has done, he's created an opponent that he cannot beat. And until he defeats that opponent, here we are. And the sad part is, I've always said it, like, if I was the coach, and I know this player is struggling, I know this player will sacrifice his scoring for the betterment of the team. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:02 And as a coach, I'm like, I'm sorry, but F these teams. F them. Do you. I need you to go out there and please try to give me 50. I want to see it. Me and the rest of the crew got to bet. Go out there
Starting point is 00:36:19 and score 50. We're not trying to win this game. I'll wait until we goddamn play We're going to play goddamn game. I'll wait till we goddamn play we'll go play goddamn Detroit. Everyone benched. Ben, you gotta win this game by your goddamn self. I gotta see, I gotta
Starting point is 00:36:36 let him tap into it so he can see it for himself. Sometimes you gotta just see what you can do to really believe. Because there's no way that you're going to the game. Think about this shit. You're playing 38 minutes and you took six shots.
Starting point is 00:36:52 That means you are purposely not even looking to score. You just out there asking. You like the motherfucking the playing in the club. You just in the club. You just in the club. You know different than that thing back there. You just out there, man.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Yeah. Especially, he the point guard, and I'm playing that many minutes. Oh, I'm getting me 12 to 14 a night. Shots. Shots. Guaranteed shots. Guaranteed. Hey, like you said, the club, it's the club.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Shots, shots, shots, shots, shots, shots. Because I'm getting the ball. I'm getting the ball, G. And who's going to tell you no when you're so gifted? I'm pretty sure Embiid, James Harden. No, not James Harden, but Kyrie. Yeah. KD.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I know those guys were so pissed off at him. Yeah, of course. Because I get to watch you every day in practice, homeboy. Yes. I get to see your ability in real time. And then you come out here and give me this bull. That's the most frustrating thing. You know what your teammates
Starting point is 00:38:07 is capable of, and then they come into the lights, and you've seen it. You've seen it. I mean, I've had teammates catch a ball, I mean, high point the ball in practice, catch the ball in a crowd. I'm talking about one hand. They can do it
Starting point is 00:38:23 all. And as soon as you put them in the game, ball hit them in the face mask, I'm talking about one hand, they can do it all. And as soon as you put them in the game, ball hit them in the face mask, I mean, ball hit them right between the like, I mean, the ball that hit them and on the ground by the time they bring their hands together. We've all seen guys like that. Like, bro, what happened to that guy that was in practice on Wednesdays and Thursdays
Starting point is 00:38:40 and Friday? How do you go from that, you don't drop anything to you can't catch anything? Because he's comfortable with us, not the opponent. Oh. Be comfortable with us, not the opponent. The opponent is the person that they
Starting point is 00:38:56 know and not knowing scares the shit out of some people. We see that a lot in camp, guys making plays against people that you know, and that's what a lot of times you hear football players say, man, I just want to go out there against somebody that I don't know, that doesn't have on my uniform.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I just want to hit somebody because you want to see what these young kids can do against somebody that they don't know. Somebody that's not going to put that thump on them and that's not going to put them on the ground. That guy's trying to make the roster just like you are. Yep.
Starting point is 00:39:28 So I want to see. I want to see. The Suns beat the Rockets 129-113. KD has a monster night. He had 27 points, 16 assists, 10 rebounds. KD denied a report that he's frustrated with the Suns. Walsh says somebody else feels that I'm frustrated, and it turned to me being mentally checked out.
Starting point is 00:39:48 This is crazy. These people can flat out lie on my name, make it up, and you people will believe it. But when my teammates and coaches speak on how I am as a teammate, you ignore it. LOL. We'll get to that. We'll get the KD comments
Starting point is 00:40:06 in a second let's talk about the game what did you like about what you saw tonight from the Suns and what's been what happened tonight that's been different than the other nights see with the Suns they have a great starting five I mean listen we can't give you no praise
Starting point is 00:40:22 you're playing Houston right I mean Houston ain't proven. But we know who's coming to play. Kevin Durant, Booker, right? Right. On a nightly basis. That is the core of that team. It's trying to find that 6th, 7th, 8th guy who can give you consistent play.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And that's the key with a lot of these teams. They haven't really dialed in their roster. They don't know what they're looking for or what they want. And it's bringing a lot of confusion with team chemistry in the first place, but the starting five themselves, oh, they balling. The starting five for Suns, they got their stuff intact, right? They're having about 95 points as a starting unit. Okay. That is impressive, right? But when you're talking about, what, 116 points, that means you only need about 20 off the bench? Yeah, but the thing is, I'm looking at tonight.
Starting point is 00:41:30 KD had to play 41 minutes. Eric Gordon played 39 minutes. Book played 36 minutes against Houston. Yeah! Yeah! Who else they got on that goddamn team? They done traded them all for people. Who else they got? You goddamn team? They done traded them all for people. Who else they got?
Starting point is 00:41:46 You going to put Bobo in? You going to put Wakasabi, whatever? You going to put him? You don't want Tanabe? Come on. Bobo did get two minutes. Watanabe got two minutes. That's all he should get, goddammit, two minutes.
Starting point is 00:41:58 But they don't have anyone on their bench, so you have to play 41 minutes. Yeah, their starters played a boatload of minutes tonight. The only starter that didn't play major minutes is Nurkic, and he played 14 minutes. But everybody else, Gorham was at 39, KD was at 41, Grayson Allen was at 33, and Book was at 36. Let's – the Rockets, a young, young team.
Starting point is 00:42:25 I think they're still the youngest team. I mean, they're really, really young. What – I like Udoka. I think that's the way to say it. I would say Udoka is Udoka. I made Udoka. Okay. What – I love Sungoon.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Yeah, Sungoon has been good. Sungoon is – I love Sunghoon Sunghoon has been what do the Rockets need how do the Rockets they're so they have a whole bunch of pieces it's like having a whole bunch of clothes but no outfit
Starting point is 00:43:03 figure out how to put it together. And, you know, with signing Dylan Brooks and signing Van Vliet, you kind of got some experience with them. But your focal point where your future is going to be Jalen Green, Sun Goon, and Jabari Smith. He ain't giving me enough right now. No, no, no, no. I agree.
Starting point is 00:43:27 I agree. I agree. And I don't know if, you know, I don't know if Sangoon is taking away from him, but the way Sangoon passes, he should be eaten. He should be eaten, you know, in that position.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And it should open up the court. But, you know, right now, I think they're trying to figure out what guys to keep, what guys they can pageant who to play like some of these teams you know playing 11 man 10 man deep some y'all don't got teams like that right y'all don't got them type of rosters to be subbing in the 10th man right y'all should get your ass whooped. Putting in number 10. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I mean, you look at this. I mean, they got guys that played. Jake Lawndale for the Rockets played 12 minutes. Amen Thompson played 17. Whitmore played 18. Holiday played 24. Eason played 25. I mean, they got to.
Starting point is 00:44:25 And plus, that's not even the starters. Those are the guys that came off the bench. Yeah. I mean, nobody played more than 29 minutes. That was Van Fleet and Sangoon. And this is the problem with teams like this. When you got a young team... Where's the days where... Like Allen Iverson, right?
Starting point is 00:44:42 He averaged 41 minutes for his career. You guys have all the technology now. You got all the medicine. And you're telling me you're playing less? They are. Right? Where's my guys where I can, like Jalen Green, all my young guys, y'all need to play 42, 43 minutes.
Starting point is 00:45:04 You need to get these games. Gil, that's the problem. They got too much technology. They got too much minutes in medicine. Because if you look at it, baseball used to have four-man rotations and three-man rotations. Now you
Starting point is 00:45:20 got five-man rotations and you got set-up men and you got closers. You see, we know too much. Yeah. And that's the problem. Well, it's taxed. Well, hell, it didn't tax the other guys. It didn't tax Steve Carton's elbow.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Yeah. Gibson, Danny McClain. Mm-hmm. Guys used to throw. I mean, the likelihood of us ever seeing, I mean, what's the likelihood of us ever see, I mean, what's the likelihood of us consistently seeing 300 strikeouts or guys pitching 300 innings or 250. I mean,
Starting point is 00:45:51 it's not, it's not guys go five, six inning. That's it. Turn it over, turn it over to the middle of the bullpen. We got middle relief. You got set up.
Starting point is 00:46:00 You got somebody to close it out. So I think that's what basketball, I mean, hell we'll play. We'll play 48 and a half minutes for the entire season. up, you got somebody to close it out. And so I think that's what basketball, I mean, hell, Will played 48 and a half minutes for an entire season. Now, mind you, there's only 48 minutes in the game. So
Starting point is 00:46:13 he played, I mean, think about, look at Will's numbers, look, and guys played, like you said, major, major minutes, 40 minutes. I mean, Jordan, I mean, there were a couple years, I mean, early in LeBron's career, LeBron played four, had a season, he played 41, 42 minutes. I mean, Jordan, I mean, there were a couple of years. I mean, early in LeBron career, LeBron played four, had a season he played 41, 42 minutes. I know.
Starting point is 00:46:29 That was common. I don't think the guy's not playing like that anymore. You know what I think it is? And it would make sense from a financial standpoint or as an owner, right? Where I have someone like a Jalen Green, right? Instead of him playing 43, 44 minutes, I play him 32, 33, right? Instead of having them for 10 years, I got them for 16 years of greatness now. So I think with the time restriction, I think it's
Starting point is 00:47:02 making their careers a little bit longer. So I have the asset longer. I think that's what it seems like is going on, that they're taking away the minutes to stretch the career out. Okay. But that's something that we have to sit there and ask, why isn't he
Starting point is 00:47:20 playing 40 minutes? And saving 10 minutes a game adds to your years. Right. Right. You know, but I'm a coach. I need to play.
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Starting point is 00:50:27 said somebody else feels that I'm frustrated and it turned into me being mentally checked out. That it crazy. These people can plan out loud my name and make it up and you people will believe it. But when my teammates and coaches speak on how I am as a teammate, you ignore it. LOL.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Gil, KD, look at your history. People were reporting that you were unhappy in OKC. You denied that. You book it out of town. People say there was some grumblings about
Starting point is 00:51:00 you were feeling some type of way that you weren't being looked at and thought of like Clay, Steph, and Draymond. You booked it and later came out. You was never going to be accepted. There was reports that KD might ask for a trade and he was unhappy in Brooklyn in the direction. And here you are in Phoenix. Phoenix. So God forbid us from believing
Starting point is 00:51:23 what they say when everything that has ever been said about you for the most part has turned out to be true. I think the only issue he probably has an issue with is saying he checked out. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Like if I'm him and I'm reading that, what do you mean checked out? I'm averaging 30 a night. I'm giving them my all. I'm coming to work day in and day out, right? KD is a student of the game. Okay. Meaning he don't have life outside of basketball. All he does, as y'all can see, you tweet something, he's on it. Right?
Starting point is 00:52:02 So you tweet, right? If I DM him right now, within three minutes, he's going to look on it. Right? So, you tweet right, if I D him right now, within three minutes, he's going to look at it. Right? So, he's in tune with everything that's going on. He's watching games. He's probably watching his show. Right? Is that a good or bad thing? Good thing. The best players,
Starting point is 00:52:18 they're in tune with everything that's going on. And sometimes that in-tuneness is what frustrates you because the rest of your teammates is not in tune with you. So expressing frustration versus
Starting point is 00:52:33 being frustrated. It's two different things. I can be mad at the moment in time, but these are my guys. I'm upset that they're not getting it done. They're not working hard. They're not getting back on D all of that.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Like when book said, Oh, you're going to turn the ball over and not get back on D. Right. I'm frustrated now, but I'm not frustrated with who the person is. Okay. Right. And sometimes,
Starting point is 00:52:57 you know, this guy might play hard, but I'm frustrating. I'm frustrated at his work ethic, but he performs well. You got, you got two different types of elements that goes on on a team. So I don't think he's frustrated to the point where he wants to trade.
Starting point is 00:53:12 He's probably frustrated with the circumstances where him and Booker. That he requested? Yeah. You requested, but the thing about it is you're worse than you were last year. And that's the frustrating part. But let me ask you a question. What are they going to trade? They traded all the assets to get him.
Starting point is 00:53:30 So what are they going to... The old saying is, what you want me to get stuff with? Ass and mouth? Yeah. So what are we going to do to get him? We gave up everything. We gave up our entire future
Starting point is 00:53:42 to get Kevin Durant. So what are we going to trade? Books or don't chevys? What we gonna give up? I think the more of the frustration, like if I'm him, what I'm gonna be frustrated
Starting point is 00:53:57 is just where we are as a team, right? We were this close last year. This close. Right. And we made a trade for Beal. The pieces we made for Beal were pieces that helped. Well, if Beal's not in those pieces that help are not here. So technically we're worse than we were last year. So at this point in time, he's like, man, it's December is about to be January.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Beal, we need Beal to come back so we can just prove how good we are. And sometimes when you're undermanned and you're going out there and everyone's judging you, like, yeah, the Suns, they look weak this year. And you're like, man, we don't have all our pieces to be great right now. And that's a frustrating part where, you know, that big key is Bill, who's going to be averaging 20 when he gets healthy. Right. But, you know, sometimes the mistake that people can make is that,
Starting point is 00:54:51 okay, he wants average 30. KD, no, can give us 30. He's led the league in scoring four times, and we know what book is. We just put all this together. Just because you put a whole bunch of nice stuff. Look, I like ice cream. I like gravy and chicken. I just don't like it this together. Just because you put a whole bunch of nice stuff. Look, I like ice cream. I like gravy and chicken. I just don't like it all together.
Starting point is 00:55:07 And just because you got three guys that can average 30, that doesn't mean it's going to work. Somebody has to be willing to sacrifice. Now look, I understand that book you're playing is unnatural position. He's not a point. He's a two. But he has to play because they
Starting point is 00:55:24 had to give up Chris Paul. And I understand that Bradley Beal has been hurt. Kevin Durant is whatever you need. He doesn't really need the ball. He can get his own. He can play with his back to the basket. He got the hands he pull up. He got the three-point shot. You file him, and he's going to the free throw line. He's going to knock 90% of those down.
Starting point is 00:55:42 But at some point in time, Gil, you got to play some defense. And the question is, when they get to the playoffs and they get down by, let's say, five points, can they get stopped when they absolutely have to have one? And that's going to be the question when we get there, right? Is we don't need to play defense the whole game. Just if we're in that time and we need to make that guaranteed stop, can we do it?
Starting point is 00:56:04 Are we capable of doing it? And that's going to be something that when the playoffs game, just if we're in that time and we need to make that guaranteed stop, can we do it? Are we capable of doing it? And that's going to be something that when the playoffs come, they're going to have to prove. Those three guys are perfect for each other because they can all do the same thing, which means if I'm a catch and shoot guy and you're a dribble penetration guy, you can post up. We don't affect each other's realm because we all play in different realms. All three can play
Starting point is 00:56:30 iso. All three can flare, backdoor, post up. So you got three guys that can move around versus if you had someone like Shaq and Tim Duncan on the same court. That's if you had someone like Shaq, right,
Starting point is 00:56:47 and Tim Duncan on the same court. That's conflict. They both want the right block, right? They're going to both fight for the right block, and none of them are dominant on the left side, right? Now you got a confliction, and that's what happens with teams. So with these three, it's a great puzzle, right?
Starting point is 00:57:04 They just got to, you just got to put them all on the court together and be healthy for 20-something games. But did they factor in over the last several years of Beal's health? Did anybody factor that in? He's been hurt. He's been hurt.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Most medical staffs are cocky. They think, well, y'all are. Y'all not us. You know, we can get him healthy. And it's that weird thing. I don't know if you went through it, but I did. When you get injured, you do all this training to get back two games later, back injured.
Starting point is 00:57:41 You start getting these random kn-knacks for no reason. And that's where Bill is. And I say that's where he got to chi. He got to cleanse his house. I don't know why he got to cleanse his house because he just got there. But you got to cleanse something, goddammit. There's something in your life that's
Starting point is 00:58:00 a negative hold onto your chi and you got to cleanse it. You got to sit there with it and start removing people. I don't give a fuck if it's the dog. Get rid of the dog. If you think the dog is, you got to really reset, right? Because these knickknacks, it just keeps lingering, lingering, lingering. He comes back.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Oh, he hurt his shoulder. Come back, hurt his toe. There's a reason this happens. You're off a line. Yeah, but you know, when you start limping into the season and you get nicked during the season, it's hard to get healthy because you come, and that's what I tell
Starting point is 00:58:33 guys, how am I supposed, normally when an average person is injured, they say take time off. Yeah. When you're a professional athlete, you don't get no time off they try they trying to rehab to get you back on the field yeah as a normal civilian you're trying to rehab to go back to your normal life but when you're a professional athlete you're playing against the top in the
Starting point is 00:58:58 world yeah it ain't no average it ain't no. No, the worst thing an athlete has against him is his ego. When we're injured, we don't come back to prove we're healthy. We come back to prove we're injured, right? Oh, you know, I hope they see me limping and giving it my all. You know, I can go out there and play 50%. I can go out there and play 80% while I'm sitting there getting booed. Oh, he's washed. He's this.
Starting point is 00:59:32 And I'm coming back to prove to you that this was serious versus just getting healthy. And that is our issue. We're watching the game. I don't care if it's a month, two weeks. We watch the game pass us by. We watch. If I'm a point guard, I watch this guy score 30. This guy, he's ranked in front of me.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Now I'm speeding up my process because I want to get my spot back. So I'm limping out here, knees swollen. I don't supposed to be playing. They said 10 to 12 weeks. I'm back six to eight weeks. Yeah, I'm fine. Knowing damn well I can't be out here playing. Fine ain't good enough.
Starting point is 01:00:05 No. Because you got to be at the level you were before you got injured. That's what makes you great. I mean, I don't care. Look, a race car with a flat tire ain't good. I don't care how many horsepower it got because it's not going to perform like it did if it had four perfectly fine inflated tires.
Starting point is 01:00:21 So if you come back and you're nicked in the slightest, you become very average. And average gets eaten in professional sports. That's just the way it is. That's just the way it is. Unculture J asks, one simple question,
Starting point is 01:00:36 Uncle Gil, when or if will KD ever be content? I think it's Happy asking for too much. I think Happy is asking too much at this point i look up and i'm expecting this man every seven eight months to act for a trade i don't i don't know i mean i i look i understand you know i don't think i can win a championship in okc he went to the perfect situation caught a lot of criticism and i don't think people were upset i
Starting point is 01:01:01 think people were more upset that you joined that team the team that knocked you out when you had them down 3-1 and you say well they okay you go there you win two championships your final mvp you probably would have won a third had your achilles not gone out and then you move on you want to go to brooklyn you you recruit kairi or kairi recruited you and you end up in brook. And you're not happy there. And for whatever reason, you wanted to move on. And I'm like, bro, I mean, what? I mean, what is if I were to ask you because you played this sport and you kind of know him somewhat, you kind of better.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Maybe you've been around him. What's he looking for? He's looking to play basketball. It seems simple, right? Where when you're talking about a guy who, I mean, let me see, how many scoring titles?
Starting point is 01:01:58 KD got four. Yeah, right? And when people ask why he left, right? When you're talking about four scoring titles, you had probably about 10 all NBAs, you had an MVP, you had all-star MVPs, right? Eight-time all-star, two golds. When you're a free agent, the only thing that you don't have on your resume was a chip in the finals MVP, right? You get those two out of the way. In his mind or just in my mind, what am I proving here? The only thing I'm proving now is
Starting point is 01:02:36 get more, right? Do I need four rings? Am I the greatest small forward ever? Am I the second greatest small forward ever? Like, am I one of the top five ever? Like, right? I train, I work out, I train, I go to sleep basketball, right?
Starting point is 01:02:56 I'm out there, you know, putting my heart into it. I think as players, we can sleep great at night knowing that we give it our all. And whatever comes with it comes with it. But I don't really think he's looking for something. I just think he wants to play high-level basketball. Most, most, most players do. The great ones, right? If they're in position to win chips, they're going to go for it.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Other than that, they just want to go out there and play hard and everybody with them going out there and playing hard. Gil, you know going to Golden State hurt him more than it helped him. I understand he got the chips, but
Starting point is 01:03:37 unless he gets one without Steph Curry, you already know how this story's going to be written. You know that, and unfortunately, I think KD knows that. Fair or unfair, right or wrong, it is what it is. Okay, but when we think of it like that, right, it's not like he can go to a team and he is by himself and try to win a championship, right?
Starting point is 01:04:04 But he recruited Kyrie. He had James Harden. Yeah, so no matter where he goes in this league today, there has to be a team up. So when he do win, they're going to say, well, you got Bill over there. You got Bill. Nah, I think the thing is with Steph,
Starting point is 01:04:20 I mean, you join a two-time, you join a unanimous MVP, and Steph Curry was already at that point in time, the greatest shooter we had ever seen. And so that system, and I get it. Okay, I just want to get y'all off my back. Let me go ahead and get these titles. I get these titles, I'll calm it down. No people looking at you like, bro,
Starting point is 01:04:41 there were 29 other teams that you could have joined. 28, because you had left OKC. There's 28 other teams. And you mean to tell me you go join the team that had just won 73 games and just lost in a game seven in the NBA finals. That was the only team you can find. OK, he's like, look, I'm a free agent.
Starting point is 01:04:59 I'm a free agent. And as a free agent, I can go wherever I want to go. Fine. For whatever reason, be it go wherever I want to go. Fine. For whatever reason, be it he had grown bored of winning. I mean, you say you just want to play high-level basketball. Can you play any high level than the Golden State Warriors and be in three NBA finals? You win two, probably wouldn't win a third had he not gotten injured.
Starting point is 01:05:23 So where are you going to go and play higher level than that so who are you going to go play with other than LeBron or at that time LeBron and LeBron and KD and Steph were thought of as the best players in the NBA with Harden falling up under that so now who are you gonna go play with Joel Embiid, Nikola Jokic, Giannis? Where can he go now? I don't know where he can go. I don't know how he outruns because he had four years. The first year, we're going to disregard that. He was rehabbing. But he had three years, and he didn't come close.
Starting point is 01:05:57 But it's not because of him, right? The stuff that went down in Brooklyn, he was there. He did his thing, right? But we give him credit, but we give him credit for Golden State. But that's what I'm saying. We can't say if he loses, it's not because of him. But when Golden State won the title, it was because of him. But it was because of him.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Why can't he win on his own? Why can't he win other than Golden State? I think that's the question, Gil. People want to know. If it was him in Golden State, why can't he do replicate? Why can't he take what he learned and take it somewhere else? Because he was a single player
Starting point is 01:06:37 coming to a team atmosphere. He was plug and play. Now he has to build a team around him where he can just adjust to one person. Now, when he tried to create a team, everyone has to adjust to everything. We can talk about how Kevin Durant going to Golden State was a bad thing.
Starting point is 01:06:58 It was the best thing that the league has ever seen and they do not want to acknowledge it. Since Magic and Bird, what was the best duo going against each other in the championship? LeBron versus KD? Yeah. LeBron versus KD.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Not LeBron versus KD, Steph, Draymond, and Klay. The best small forwards in the game. And I don't know why this wasn't looked at like two titans. The best player in the world versus the second best player in the game. And I don't know why this wasn't looked at like two titans. The best player in the world versus the second best player in the world. Right? One called himself, I'm the best scorer in the world versus the best player. You had two titans playing against each other.
Starting point is 01:07:36 And we spent our time talking about. We spent our time talking about KD leaving. Not realizing what we was witnessing. Oh, I ain't got no problem with him leaving. No, but what I'm saying, we was witnessing that Kevin Durant and, like, when we all talk about Kobe, the one thing that we didn't get to see
Starting point is 01:07:54 is Kobe and LeBron in the championship again. Correct. We got to see Kevin Durant and LeBron go face to face, right? We got the magic and bird, but we're never going to acknowledge this because we was upset that he took the easy way out.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Right. But I think the thing is, when we look at Magic and Bird, Magic had Kareem, Bird had Mikael, he had Worthy, he had Parrish, they had Byron Scott, they had DJ. So it was like, okay,
Starting point is 01:08:26 you got four Hall of Famers? We got four Hall of Famers. Okay, you got a coach that's going to the Hall? We got one that's going to the Hall. So I think everybody looked at it as an even matchup. I don't think anybody thought
Starting point is 01:08:42 that the way that Cleveland, even though it was Kyrie and LeBron, was going to be able to beat Golden State with Steph, Klay, KD, and Draymond. That wasn't going to happen. I think that's what the, you know, when KD and
Starting point is 01:08:57 LeBron locked horns in Miami and OKC, you're like, OK. You know, OK. Serge Ibaka and Chris Bosh. We got Russ, D-Wade, and now KD and LeBron. And they had to guard each other. They had to guard each other.
Starting point is 01:09:16 That was a great matchup, but it was young. It was young versus a veteran. But when that Golden State-Cleveland Cavaliers series got, because it was going to be between those two. I wish after they won it, after Cleveland won it and Golden State got Kevin Durant, I thought Cleveland should have made a move. It don't matter. You should have known you was going to be outgunned.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Who are you going to give up? First of all, who want to come to Cleveland? That was the problem while LeBron got up out of there. No, no, that's facts. But at this point, look, like J.R. Smith was my what? He was my Klay Thompson. You know, Klay is averaging 21. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:01 J.R. Smith averaging 13. Yeah, for sure. That's how important that is. You know what I mean? So it was really outmatched. yes, J.R. Smith averaging 13. Yeah, for sure. That's how important that was. You know what I mean? So it was really outmatched. So from there, they should have been in tune with the game and said, okay, we might need to upgrade a little bit more. We're not good enough to try to go back-to-back.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Right. First name, last name said Gil was a great addition. Shanna, do you remember when you said Katie and Kyrie were potentially play together when they were seen at the All-Star Game talking? KD laughed out saying it was some BS. They joined.
Starting point is 01:10:29 They joined. I didn't say it. I remember I said, look, and I tried, and I played him a compliment. I said, KD joining Golden State was like Johnny Gill
Starting point is 01:10:42 joining New Edition. Johnny Gill could out-sing them all. We know the outstanding career Bobby Brown had. We know what Ralph Transvant did. We knew what Bell, Bibb, DeVoe ended up doing once they broke up. But none of them singularly could out-sing
Starting point is 01:10:57 Johnny Gill. And the reason why Johnny Gill wasn't accepted, he didn't grow up in Boston and Roxbury. Facts. KD was never going to be, and I'm not saying they didn't like him, but Steph, Klay, Draymond
Starting point is 01:11:13 came there. They was birthed. They grew up there. Although KD was KD, it wasn't going to be accepted. He called me oh this, you don't know what you're talking about. Wow, that's an ignorant thing to say. Later, he get on the podcast,
Starting point is 01:11:30 like, I was never going to be accepted like KD and stuff because they... Well, I said... I said that. But, you know, we delusional sometimes. You know what I mean? Come on. Just like in our relationship, hey, our boys are the first one
Starting point is 01:11:46 to tell us, hey, your girl cheating on you. Oh, no, she never died. She ain't like that. She ain't like that. Right, she just like that. Yes, and that's the same thing. Like, we don't want to believe, right, that it is this.
Starting point is 01:12:02 And we have to find out the hard way. He had to find out on that court when he's asking for the ball. He had to sit there and go back and forth with Draymond Green, and Draymond Green had to let him know, we was here before you. We don't need you. That hurt. It did. Oh, we want to finish that season.
Starting point is 01:12:21 I don't know how I can come to work knowing that you really believe that deep down inside. Why am I you? Of course. Three people will tell you the truth, Gil. Drunks, kids, and angry people. Yeah. They're going to tell you the truth.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Now, see, they'll blame it on, I just said a thing out of anger. So I was drunk. I didn't know what I was talking about. And kids, you know what they say? Kids say the darndest thing. So I got a way to brush off either one of those. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:12:49 And I'm going to say something and tell me what you think. If you notice, Draymond Green's behavior is always when he thinks someone is about to replace him as a member of the Big Three. When KD came, it's about to be KD, Steph, and Klay. He says what he says. Jordan Poole. All of a sudden, it's about to be Jordan be KD, Steph, and Klay. He says what he says. Jordan Poole. All of a sudden, it's about to be Jordan Poole, Steph, and Klay. He does what he does. Now, it's going to be very, very interesting to see how they handle Kaminga.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Because does that ruffle Dray? Because Draymond, like, I'm a member of the big three. And nothing's going to upset that. Because that's just, look, I could be totally wrong. But there's something to be said for Draymond and the way Draymond has behaved with KD, with Jordan Poole. Now, I don't know of anything, I have not heard anything about Kaminga. But I did hear what Kaminga said. Because Hardy kind of played my game because I got to
Starting point is 01:13:45 make sure the OGs get the ball. So how do I do what I need to do to show what I can do and still, you know, show deference to the OGs? So that's going to be very interesting moving forward. So tell me what you think. You know, there might be a little territorial, you
Starting point is 01:14:02 know, thing going on with Draymond. Right? And, you know, thing going on with Draymond. Right. And, you know, the one thing you don't want to do is you don't want to be forgotten. Right. And, you know, sometimes I think, you know, it seemed like the more his game is dwindling down, the more he's acting out. Yes. He knows his time is coming and he's going to be put on that bench. And that's when all the people who don't like he's going to be put on that bench and that's when
Starting point is 01:14:25 all the people who don't like him are going to be able to laugh I think he's ready for that laughter the four rings don't help that ego at that moment in time they don't win I don't believe they win any of those titles without Draymond but being
Starting point is 01:14:41 benched, them four rings they don't mean nothing anymore. I can't see them on your finger when you're on the bench. You tell me about them, but you can put them on at the conference when you're at the podium. But right at that point in time, and now you give everybody because everybody, oh, Draymond is the king of the triple single. And they're saying all these things.
Starting point is 01:15:01 I think he's a phenomenal player. I do. I mean, I think his physicality. Do I think he goes over the line? Absolutely. Do I think he's done some things that he didn't need to do? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:15:12 But the problem is, is that they didn't check it before. I can't wait till my dog is two years old before I correct him about potting in the house. And then all of a sudden he potters in the house again. I'm like, what are you doing? You didn't correct him when he was a puppy.
Starting point is 01:15:26 You let Draymond get out of control. And so now when you don't win, you accepted it when you were winning. You accepted Draymond's behavior when you was winning. And I'm a firm believer, as Mike Shanahan told me in 1995, you never accept anything in a win,
Starting point is 01:15:42 you wouldn't in a loss. So if Draymond's behavior is unacceptable when you're losing, it should have been unacceptable when you're winning. Because when they say winning masks a lot, it does. It masks the undercurrent of what was going on in Golden State that was just in the moment. Things don't go the way that they think it should. Draymond pops his head up out the water.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Oh, yeah, that's a thing. It's going to be real interesting because he was the vocal point. He was the heartbeat. And when they decide to say, all right, Kaminga, this is your spot. Is the heartbeat going to stop beating? I think this is one of those things where for the betterment of the team, he's going to have to pull a Russ
Starting point is 01:16:35 and he's going to have to look around and say, all right, I did all I can do. It's time for me to take a backseat and give all my energy to Kaminga, and then I can come in back. He's going to have to pull a UD, right? As long as he wants his name called at the beginning of the game, Draymond Green,
Starting point is 01:16:58 the team dies. Because he don't have it like he used to. He's not as fast, strong, right? He's still got the smart, the IQ level is very, very, very high, right? But he's going to have to sacrifice and realize
Starting point is 01:17:16 the big three is falling off. Yeah. He really no big two because Clay is not the same. Clay can get in spurs, but Clay ended up going to the it. He really no big too because Clay is not the same. Clay can get in spurs, but Clay ended up going to the bench in the fourth quarter. I mean,
Starting point is 01:17:30 look, as we start to age and Clay had two devastating injuries for professional athlete. He had an Achilles and an ACL. And he had them in his 30s and commend him for coming back and playing at the level,
Starting point is 01:17:46 but he's not the same Steph. I mean, excuse me, the same Klay. Draymond is starting to get older. He's not the same. He doesn't move the same, but the behavior. See, Draymond needs to understand they'll tolerate you until they can replace you.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Yeah. They tolerated his behavior because they couldn't replace you. Now, at some point in time, even though you were the heartbeat and you mean so much to this team, 7.5 rebounds and 3 or 4
Starting point is 01:18:15 assists ain't going to cut it. Yeah, I don't know how I don't know how I feel bad for Steve Kerr because you don't want how you... I feel bad for Steve Kerr because you don't want to bench him because Kaminga hasn't taken this spot. Correct.
Starting point is 01:18:34 But with Kaminga on the floor, he's just a different breed of a guy. He gives you something that you guys didn't have. A guy who has bounced. At the little thing. At the yank.
Starting point is 01:18:47 He got his own one-on-one move. He can create his own shot. He's very aggressive. Still, which is surprising. I mean, you've been there for a couple years. You would think he would have lost his aggression. But he still has his aggression. He has the confidence that he can't be stopped.
Starting point is 01:19:01 You need that to play out. Right. That is going to be a tough decision for Steve Kerr to say, Draymond, you're starting. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I'm going to be like, yo, Dray,
Starting point is 01:19:15 you're going to have to come off the bench. He's been playing very well since you've been on the bench. Give me a couple more games. You know what, Gil? The problem with Golden State is that a lot of these problems that Andrew Wiggins isn't playing well,
Starting point is 01:19:31 at the same time, Klay Thompson isn't playing well, at the same time, Draymond Green is suspended. Yeah. So you kind of got like a little mini hurricane, a little mini earthquake, and a little mini tornado. Yeah. All together. In one spot.
Starting point is 01:19:51 And the problem is, and this is why being the third option feels amazing. Because nobody's paying attention to you. No. No one is talking about Wiggins playing horrible. And he'd be good and terrible. Yeah, and it's weird. When you're that third option, when you don't have no pressure on you, you get to go out there and be trash without any pushback.
Starting point is 01:20:16 No one's going to write about you. No one cares. So the fact that Draymond is being blamed for what's going on in Golden State, it kind of let us know how important he was then to the winning. Yes. Yes, absolutely. And people that don't believe that he was important to winning, it's the fact that you don't really like Draymond or you don't really understand the importance of what he brought to that ball club.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Sometimes you just can't measure everything by points, rebounds, and assists because he does a lot of the dirty work. Everybody can't be the bank president. Somebody got to be the security guard. Somebody got to be the cashier. Somebody got to be the custodian. Somebody got to clean that place up at night. Yeah, he's top
Starting point is 01:20:55 flight security all right. Arvin Ham calls out Cam Reddish and Jared Vanderbilt. Can't be confused with, can't be confused with the ball. Ham said, I was just, I'm just not, I'm not, I just think not allowing it to be
Starting point is 01:21:12 stacked to stagnate us. If they're trying to play off, Cam got to step up shooting with confidence or eat up space on the drive. Collapse the defense once he touches the paint, drive find the open man. Same thing for Vandal. Ball hits him and he just can't hold it. Be confused.
Starting point is 01:21:28 He called them out, not himself. You put them sorry motherfuckers in the game. Nobody told you to sub a dude who averages 1.5 and put him as a starter. Right? That's your, like, when you going to take responsibility for the lineups you're putting out. Like, you have the the Lakers starting five the way it was, they were only
Starting point is 01:21:52 averaging 82 points as a starting five, which is low. Right? You subbed out. Well, considering LeBron and AD averaging 50. Yeah! So the rest of your team, the rest of your starters is only putting up 30. That is a low starting five. 82 points is low.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Now, you sub in Van and take out Russ, which pushes you down to 68 points a game. Just to show you how bad that is, the worst team in the NBA, the Detroit Pistons, they're averaging 69 points. They're averaging 73 points as a starting five. So the Detroit Pistons starting five is better than the Lakers starting five right now. In point production.
Starting point is 01:22:40 What defense are you looking for? Who? Ain't nobody. You need to be, in order for them to justify the defensive, like, oh, they're supposed to be defensive guys. They need to be Dennis Johnson. They need to be Alvin Robertson. They need to be Dennis Rodman of somebody,
Starting point is 01:23:00 somebody on the ball like that. But you cannot give me one point let's just say Vandal gives us 2-3 and Cam Reddish gives us 8, come on bro that's not enough 11 points and we got guys and you're playing 25 to 30 minutes 3 and 8 points is not enough
Starting point is 01:23:17 it's just not you got 3, like AD is a defensive player, LeBron is a defensive player but he's 39. I got enough defense to put all offense. I have guys who can block shots to put enough offense
Starting point is 01:23:33 out there. This is crazy because their losses, they scored 94 points, 101, 94, 109, 108, 110, 111, 115. You're not, you can't score, right? You're not moving fast enough with the units you have.
Starting point is 01:23:54 You know what this reminds me of? What he did right here reminds me of the 2000, it was a, is it the 2020, the 2000, the 2020 Cl the 2000, the 2020, the 2020 Clippers team where they use, this is the deepest team. They got the deepest bench. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:15 You got the deepest bench because you'll start in five was sorry as shit. Right. Starting five. You had what? Cause you break. Yeah. Cause you break, you bring a sweet Lou Lou, and Trez,
Starting point is 01:24:25 and they playing more minutes at reserves than you started. Yeah, you got 40 points coming off the bench with two players. Of course, your bench is deep. So your bench was number one in the NBA in scoring. Your starting five was 25th. You're averaging 69 points because you got Zubac, Pat Bev and Moe who's averaging 7, 8 and 5. You're not deep you got 4 players
Starting point is 01:24:50 5, you got 4 players that's it you're just trying to trick the line come off the bench yeah you're trying to take 2 starters put them off the bench oh yeah we got this deep team because you know in the NBA it's hard to blow a team out in the first 5-6 minutes right so you know, in the NBA, it's hard to blow a team out in the first five, six minutes.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Right. So, you know, at the six minute mark, you can sub in your two guys and then get the rolling and let these guys get a little bit of minutes. Right. Oh, you did good, boys. Now go sit down, let the real players get in. I hate I hate I hate lineups like that. Right. You try. You're just trying to trick like your team is good. But knowing damn well, if a team got 0-9-0 in the first one minute of the game, get your asses out. Trent, get your asses in.
Starting point is 01:25:32 And that happened a couple times. But you have to have a balanced team. And the fact that you have Rui Austin and Russell coming off the bench, like, oh yeah, we got 40-something points coming off the bench. Yeah, you got 40-something coming, you know, 40-something points coming off the bench. Yeah, you got 40-something coming off the bench, but you're starting five. It's only scoring 60 points.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Right? You got LeBron James in 80 scoring 50, and you got the other three guys there putting in 10. Like, stop. Stop these dumbass lineups. Yeah. Because, and here's the thing, and you tell me these guys, but they still can't stop dribble penetration. Guys are still getting past Vando, they're still getting past Cam, and they're kicking the ball to the
Starting point is 01:26:10 corner for wide open threes. So if you're supposed to be a defensive guy, if you're not going to get, here's the thing, if I'm not an offensive guy, and this is where I approach it, Gil, when I play football, I've got to be more of an asset in the passing game than I am a liability in
Starting point is 01:26:26 the run game. Yes. So in other words, if you are a liar, you got to be a tremendous asset in the defensive end. If you're a liability on the offensive end, if you're a basketball player and right now you're a liability on both. So it's basically you becoming unplayable because I don't know how you play
Starting point is 01:26:44 guys. Don't know how you play. Guy's going to give me two points and then he's letting guys get past him and I got to slide AD and the guy's passing the ball and the guy's laying it up or some help got to come and he's kicking it to the corner. Bro, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:26:57 I never understood that and it's weird because I would love to ask a defensive coach why they put these lineups in. I'm an offensive player. I bred offense, right? The worst player that I wanted to see
Starting point is 01:27:15 was someone like me that I had to guard. Right. I did not want to face me. Patrick Beverly's? Whoa! Oh, it's trouble for you, homeboy, because you're here to play defense, not offense, so I'm resting half the time.
Starting point is 01:27:33 I'm giving you my all. That means it's like boxing, right? I get to punch you, but you got your hands tied. I get to punch on you while your hands tied. The fact that you're going to take three, four shots a game, why am I paying attention to you? That is the easiest night for me
Starting point is 01:27:51 because there's no way you're going to stop me from taking 20, 30 shots. But I don't have to give you no effort on the defense. I get to sit. And the worst player I wanted to play was someone scoring like me because he's embarrassing me now.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Right. Right. So if I'm playing against the Lakers and I'm Trey Young, hell yeah, I want to play against Cam all day. You ain't embarrassing me. You ain't doing nothing. You just get to play defense all day. And I don't understand why they put these lineups out there because you're helping the offensive team. Because you're handicapping yourself.
Starting point is 01:28:32 You're playing three on five on offense or two on five on offense. Right. And you're not good enough. The rules aren't made. My offense of book is 100 times better than any rules you can put in. And that's the difference in today's game. Back then,
Starting point is 01:28:52 it was 60-40 defense to offense. You dribbled a certain way, you only had a certain amount of moves. Now, the moves today, I can hold it a little bit. So now, it's basically 90 to 10. There's no rule they can put in
Starting point is 01:29:09 that hand checking all that when people talk. There ain't no hand checking that can stop these moves today and progress. That is trash. It was trash when it was in. And you got so, I mean,
Starting point is 01:29:24 guys can shoot the ball better, guys can shoot the ball better and guys can handle the ball better. You got two or three guys on every team that can make you look stupid handling the ball. Everybody got that pull. Everybody got the hands. Okay, I'm going to A and one. I mean, how many guys we see that?
Starting point is 01:29:42 Everybody doing that. I mean, guys like, who the hell are you? Where you come with that move from? So the likelihood of you bringing somebody, oh, he's a defensive stopper. He go, man, them guys are too good. They're too skilled. It's you. If I want to hunt a lion, I need a lion.
Starting point is 01:30:02 A gazelle ain't going. He ain't going. He's lunch me. He go, yeah, yeah exactly he's lunching me it's weird right um d-low said he wanted to be derrick white we all laughed please be derrick white god damn it i beg you to be derrick white now because derrick white didn't want to just be a liability i'm just a defensive player. Right. That's the difference between Boston now, right?
Starting point is 01:30:34 You got the unicorn over there, which added extra offense, right? Yes. You would have thought that Derek White would be more of a defensive player because he don't need to score. He upped his scoring up. Yes, yes. And that's what the Lakers need. D-Lo, I need you to up. Yes. Yes. That's what the Lakers need. D-Lo, I need you to up your production, not
Starting point is 01:30:49 press. Right. Up and up. Because if you put pressure on the opposing team, I mean, maybe it takes some of that zap out of them. And they're not able to give you that work. Listen, when you're trying to score,
Starting point is 01:31:08 my one thing that I always went into games with, when I had to play against AI, when I had to play against Steve Francis, when I had to play against Mulberry, I'm coming at you first. I'm going to come at you so hard that it makes you not want to play offense thinking that if you
Starting point is 01:31:29 don't shoot, I don't shoot. NBA players really think that's the thing. But if I don't shoot against him, he won't shoot against me. Okay, that's your fault. And what I did when we started off the games, I was playing against the high-level guards, the Steve Nash's. I'm trying to give them buckets early to set the tone.
Starting point is 01:31:49 I can't let Steve Nash come and pick me to death. If you look at my games with Steve Nash, I made him a scorer. Like when you look at our matchups against Steve Nash, he wasn't having 15 and 17 assists, 30, 40. Like you're going to have to match me point for point if you want to keep up. You're not going to be able to try to sit there and get your guys, I'm scoring too
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Starting point is 01:34:51 wednesday for a new episode listen to the fantasy footballers dynasty podcast on the i heart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast yeah it's kind of like you know I got to take some of that zap. Like my grandma used to say, okay, y'all stay out all night. You go into church in the morning. Oh yeah. You're not fit. You're not fit to lag back there. If they, Hey, Oh, I'm going to give you a bucket. You go get this. You got to make them work. And, uh, that's not happening. So it's going to be very interesting to see what his starting lineup looked like tomorrow. The Laker players are reportedly frustrated with Darvin Ham's decision about starting lineup and their role. Frustration with players' roles and fluctuating minutes. Uncertainty regarding their roles and inconsistency in playing time. The communication gap between coaching staff and players appears
Starting point is 01:35:39 to be widening with players expressing confusion over the mixed messages they receive. Reports say criticism has been directed at Ham's lineup choices and rotation, particularly perceived inconsistency in handling struggling players. Some players like Austin Reeves, D'Angelo Russell, Rui Hachimura reportedly face shorter leashes than when encountered difficulties, while other players, Torian Prince, Cam Reddish, enjoy longer leashes, despite struggles on the court. We saw that. They had no problem putting Austin Reeves on the bench. Remember, he's struggling to start the season?
Starting point is 01:36:14 Well, we talked to Austin, and we felt it would be best for him to come off the bench. Okay, what about them other guys? Yeah. Ham was a defensive player, I think. He was on the bench when i was playing he didn't get in the game but most likely he was a defensive player one of those guys that hustled
Starting point is 01:36:32 and that's his mindset yeah right you got a little bit in you and you're looking for it on the court like these guys play the right way well it's not the right way if they're not winning right of course austin reeves ruined d'Angelo will be mad. They're your offense. So if they miss two or three shots, you put them on a bench. These guys don't even take three shots and they're playing, right? So now what ends up happening is you start looking at the guys as enemies instead of teammates. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Right? guys as enemies instead of teammates. You start putting division inside the locker room because they're getting minutes that they haven't earned. He took three shots. He did this and he plays 30 minutes. Now what does that do to someone like D'Angelo? Oh, if I don't do nothing,
Starting point is 01:37:20 if I don't shoot, if I don't make no mistakes, I play longer. Because that's what he's doing with this guy. Right? The fact that at this point in the season, you're still having fluctuation problems. Let you know, you don't know what's going on right now. You're still trying to find stuff. And instead of building on that championship mid-season,
Starting point is 01:37:40 in-season, mid-season, whatever the season, beginning of the season, right? You're supposed to be building confidence. That was supposed to boom, boom, boom, boom, and take off. You have Rui and D'Angelo should be starting or Reeves. Cam and Prince both shouldn't be starting.
Starting point is 01:38:04 No. Norvando. No. Hell no. No, those three, two of those three shouldn't be starting. No. Norvando. No. Hell no. Two of those three should not be starting. I didn't even look at him as a starter. That looks like a friend hookup. You lost a bet.
Starting point is 01:38:17 He looked like you lost a bet. Like, all right. You know? Like, I'll put him in, right? Right. He shouldn't even be playing minutes right now. They weren't worn. They weren't earned.
Starting point is 01:38:29 You can't just say, all right, we're going to go from averaging one and put him in. I'm sitting there. I'm also like, wait a minute, man. I'm averaging 15 points a game. 15. Solid. You ain't thinking about me as a starter. What's wrong with you? That happens. You're getting minutes. Think about it.
Starting point is 01:38:44 You're getting minutes that you didn't deserve. You think I's wrong with you? That happens. You're getting minutes. Think about it. You're getting minutes that you didn't deserve and you think I'm cool with it? No. Because I'm watching. There's not one time that Jared Vanderbilt has shot a shot outside and it's done too many that I actually thought it was going in. Be I'm watching on television or I'm actually sitting at the game.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Not one time does he shoot a shot and I'm like, oh man, that's good. Even when he laid the ball, even when he like driving the ball, he go flip it up left-handed. I'm like, that ain't going in. What is this man doing on defense? Looking at LeBron. Looking at Anthony Davis.
Starting point is 01:39:16 I got the night off. No. No. Your job, your job isn't the funnel. Your job is to D up because you give us nothing offensively. Like I said, you've got whatever it is, you've got to be a bigger asset than a liability.
Starting point is 01:39:32 So he has to be a bigger asset on the defensive end because we know he's a liability on the offensive end. But if he gives us nothing on either, now all of a sudden he's no good. If you wasn't playing him at the beginning of the season, there was
Starting point is 01:39:48 a reason. Don't play his ass now because you feel you need to change shit up. No, you need to get everybody thinking the right way. You need to get everybody in tune with what their game is. You think D'Angelo is coming off the bench to this guy
Starting point is 01:40:04 and you think he's happy? Yeah, that's the thing. Like Cam, you putting Cam on the bench, what's that going to do? He going to give you five. What, he going to give you five coming off the bench? Cool. I'm not losing nothing there. Right?
Starting point is 01:40:17 That is something that bleeds a locker room where you're looking at somebody in front of you that ain't him. Right? So you ain't cheering for him. You put a guy in that can't shoot the ball. And I'm sitting here. We sit here like, all right, we're going to play team ball. You start Rui or Austin.
Starting point is 01:40:39 You start Russell or Austin. Trust me, their production is going to get better because they should have a six. You show confidence in them. The fact that you don't, there shouldn't be, you shouldn't be at this place right now. You shouldn't be right here right now. This is horrible.
Starting point is 01:40:55 Unless they're putting Vandy in because they need to trade him. Show him he's healthy. That's the thing. That's the thing right there. 15 coming up. Went in and showed him. Show him he's healthy. That's the thing. That's the thing, right? 15 coming up. He healthy. Look at him out there.
Starting point is 01:41:11 He like that car we got. You know we want to sell it. So I'm going to drive it and let everybody see it's operational. Then I'm going to go put it right back on the show. Hey, speak to for sale signing it tomorrow. And that's what this play looks like. It looks like they want to show that
Starting point is 01:41:27 because there's no way as a coach you're going to take a guy who's averaging 1.5 and insert him in the starting lineup and he don't even get no minutes. The only play is I want to show him off so I can package him. Yeah. Because, you know, Vando was hurt
Starting point is 01:41:41 at the start of the season. I think he had a foot injury or he had some kind of injury at the start of the season. I think he had a foot injury or he had some kind of injury at the start of the season. But for whatever reason, man, hey, they got to get more production. They need more than five points, three points, two points from him. Torian Prince is like he'll miss, but okay. He does, I mean, look, more times than not,
Starting point is 01:42:02 I feel comfortable with him shooting the three ball. But like I said, we don't need all three of them. Man, I'm sorry. I come from a time where I did shoot half our threes. Right? We shot 14 threes a game. I shot seven of those. There's no way in the game where I'm playing on a court
Starting point is 01:42:26 where he gets to take 13 threes. Who, toward your friends? Hell no. You'd have been sent out. Oh, now get this motherfucker out of here, coach. Ain't no way I would have... Hey, hey.
Starting point is 01:42:36 What's Lou doing? If this is not your job, if you're not sitting in there... Like, think about Ray Allen didn't shoot these many threes. No. Right? You're not Steph or Klay. about Ray Allen didn't shoot these many threes. No. You're not Steph or Klay. KD don't even shoot these type of threes.
Starting point is 01:42:50 So for you to shoot these type of threes, you better be sitting in the practice facility or the gym shooting thousands of shots. And if they get mad that I said they shouldn't be shooting, gym shooting thousands of shots. And if they get mad that I said they shouldn't be shooting, I will bet any type of money if we shoot 100 threes right now, I will blow them out.
Starting point is 01:43:15 You are a shoot guy that currently, you're talking about those three guys that are shooting on the Lakers right now, you get them. I wouldn't even come on them. I'll shoot one hand against them. The Lakers? Oh, the one hand. I wouldn't even come on them. I'll shoot one hand against them. The Lakers, oh, they want one hand. You're going to have to be a real shooter for me to put both my hands on the ball. I take 300
Starting point is 01:43:31 shots a day. Still. I take 300 shots and I'll wake up 435 and I go out there and take my shots. It's just in me. So, I can't look, I can't see a player and I'm sitting here like, what do you do? When you in practice, what do you do?
Starting point is 01:43:51 Are you working on your shot? How are you not marksman? You know, you got one job. One. One job. That means if practice starts at 11, hey, you, Cam, you, Prince, get in the gym at 8 o'clock. You shoot nothing but threes
Starting point is 01:44:10 from these spots from 8 to 11. Then we have 10 practice. Then after, take one more hour of shooting more threes. And then I need you to come back later on tonight and shoot more threes. That should be your job.
Starting point is 01:44:23 You should be a marksman. When I pass it to you, everybody should be turning around. We all turn around, put our hands in because we know that's in. But what are you doing? You just come in here practicing, get 50 something shots up and think you good?
Starting point is 01:44:40 Think you golden? Nah, man. Like there was a year where I took 100,000 shots in the summer because the calculation was shit i'm only shooting about 37 percent for me to go up another percent i gotta shoot about a hundred thousand shots to move up one percent i had to shoot a hundred thousand shots that's how the calculation went so when when you look at the Steph Currys and stuff like that, man, they shooting. I watched Steph
Starting point is 01:45:09 take 400 shots in 22 minutes. Moving. That was the warm-up. Wow. That was just to show the crowd, this is what I do.
Starting point is 01:45:27 Ended that and then worked out for two hours. So he took about 1,500 shots that day. Wow. The mere fact that you know Steph has to be, because Steph has to like, it's different for him because he's perpetual motion. So there's very few chances. There are very few times that he's getting a wide open three coming off a
Starting point is 01:45:49 pick. He's back cutting and he's flaring and, but he's still constantly moving. I don't look here. It's something when you get tired, now fatigue will make cowards of us all. Oh yeah. So for him to be able to shoot that shot after,
Starting point is 01:46:03 you know, playing 25, 30 minutes. Okay, to start the game, we get it, Gil. But he moving like that throughout the entirety of the game. And in the fourth quarter, he's in impeccable shape. That shape separates him. When we talk about the greatest shooter, if we told everyone to shoot 100 shots,
Starting point is 01:46:25 right, 100 threes, right? It could be close. Yes, I believe that. A Ray Allen, a Reggie Miller. Reggie Miller, yeah. Right? He's, we can say he's the best shooter. He's the best shooter
Starting point is 01:46:39 because he was the best conditioned. So his first quarter looked like his fourth quarter. While the rest of those shooters were tiring out, he's at a 99% stamina level. So he was consistent
Starting point is 01:46:56 throughout. So he looked like he was the better shooter because he's in shape the whole thing. Versus, I'm 30 minutes and I'm sitting here like, oh, can we get some water? That's the key to all of it. Being in shape.
Starting point is 01:47:12 You be in the best shape of your life. When I say life, I mean you run in the 3-4 miles when you done played a game just to get the extra cardio in. You have to do a lot of stuff to be great. Right.
Starting point is 01:47:28 Grizzlies are 4-0 with Ja. The Grizzlies went 6-19 without Ja because he started the season serving that 25-game suspension. They're now 4-0 with the Western Conference Player of the Week on the court after pulling off a come-from-behind win over the New Orleans on Tuesday. The Memphis Grizzlies trailed by 14 in the fourth quarter and chipped away at the lead until the final seconds of the game. Ja did this celebration.
Starting point is 01:47:52 I guess it's a New Orleans dance called Pistols and Bazooka. They're separate? Yeah. Okay. What I'm being told now, they're saying it's two separate things. They say it's the New Orleans dance and it's not the celebration
Starting point is 01:48:12 Pistols and Bazooka. No. I didn't say that when I was told. I was saying, you know, it's the New Orleans dance and it's not Pistols and Bazooka. No, yeah, it's the New Orleans dance that just happened to not Pistols and Bazooka. No, yeah, it's the New Orleans dance that just happened to have
Starting point is 01:48:27 Pistols and Bazooka. It makes you... I know he's going to irritate the older group, but it kind of got to... As someone who thrives on being petty, right? He can't help himself, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Like, I'll be honest, like, right now, without the celebration, I call him Ja Witt because that's what he reminds me of. Like, he killed his dog. Right. Yeah, he going through, he going through teens like they killed this man's dog, right? Right. And it's phenomenal it's phenomenal
Starting point is 01:49:07 what he's doing it shows you how great he is um and he's so and he's young
Starting point is 01:49:16 right and I know we're gonna nobody want to hear excuses of he's young but he is a kid he's in a culture where it's the
Starting point is 01:49:24 dance culture, right? Like if you look at Westbrook and the dances he was doing during those OKC, he's no different. Just the music he listens to got those type of reactions to it. And when he's doing his dunks and he's feeling great, that's when he's showing it. Like this is not coming from an angry place. showing it. This is not coming from an angry place. We're looking at what he's doing. It's not coming from an angry place. Everything
Starting point is 01:49:49 he's done is coming when he's actually happy. It's a weird one because it's the culture. When they're dancing and they're doing this, it's coming from a happy spot, not an angry spot. I don't think no one's separating the two. They just see, oh,
Starting point is 01:50:06 Pistols and he threw the bazooka at us. Right. Right. And that's going to be the problem, right? I don't think we should focus. It's optics. In this situation with him, he got suspended for gun. He had it one time
Starting point is 01:50:22 and he went in with the commissioner and he told the commissioner he'd never put himself in that position again and a couple of months later he was in that again I think it's just the optics of it but like you said I mean I guess the only thing that he know how to do have guns have them fangs on him so it is what it is
Starting point is 01:50:38 I'm laughing because as soon as you see it I was like oh shit there you go again he just can't you know you dunk on you but I'm just I'm just glad that like I would rather see him still having his mental intact
Starting point is 01:50:55 versus seeing some watered down version right and as the organization of the Grizzlies I know I know deep down inside they're happy as hell. One, you got one of the future stars of the NBA. You have an impact player. You have a player that you can sell to your audience.
Starting point is 01:51:18 You got them at a discounted rate. Those 25 games was perfect for you to get him for $40 million cheaper right you save $40 million with those antics so in your mind you don't care because you got it's like getting Iverson you know what I mean it's like
Starting point is 01:51:38 getting Iverson it's like getting a Bentley for 20% off you're not going to complain you're not going to complain and You're not going to complain. And that's what it is with Ja. And, you know, he's at this point, though. He's at this point
Starting point is 01:51:52 where it's a God-mode thinking. My team was so trash without me. Right? You're trash without me. Y'all some losers without me. I come back, we 4-0. I done hit two game winners.
Starting point is 01:52:11 I'm that man. If he don't settle, if he don't really look at himself, his ego can be bigger than it was before. Of course. The issue is going to be now that he's entering
Starting point is 01:52:29 that God zone thought process where he needs to protect himself more. Because now you're 4-0, you go 5-0, you what's the name of the month? You make the all-star game. Oh, we got to come get you. All right, send some girls this way.
Starting point is 01:52:48 We need him to do something. Send them. And this is where now he needs, because he has this chance where they open the door for you to come back in without any penalty penalty. We penalize you, but we got you a clean slate
Starting point is 01:53:03 where you can come back in and get your crown back and i think he's a really think about where he's at and what he can accomplish he can get more than he lost if he if he if he plays this right because the team is horrible without him and if he can get this team to the playoffs, he can make that all-star team. He's the dude. The Gifted Gab asked, what do you think about Memphis going after Andre Drummond or Busevich from Chicago, or one of these bigs from the Pistons,
Starting point is 01:53:36 Bones Highland from the Clippers? I mean, because obviously they were a different team with Big Adams. And him going down, you know, he missed the last half of the season. They thought he was going to be able to come back, but he ended up having to have surgery again, and he's going to miss the entire season.
Starting point is 01:53:51 What do you think about going out and getting a Busevich, getting an Andre Drummond? I mean, you've got to trade, right? If you're just trying to replace one guy and you're trying to replace an enforcer, a hard body down there, then you might want to go after Dwight Howard. That is the only player that is cheap, cheap, willing to come in for pennies on a dollar.
Starting point is 01:54:19 And because he's been out of the NBA and it looks like he's being left behind, he's going to accept whatever role you give him. You know he's going to of the NBA and it looks like he's being left behind, he's going to accept whatever role you give him. You know he's going to be in shape. You know he's going to play defense. He's going to come to practice. He's going to be a professional.
Starting point is 01:54:35 If you need him to come in there and check some players, he can do that. You don't have to break up your team to go out there and get those guys. You can just sign as a free agent. When Adams comes back, you can cut him if you want. Well, I don't think coming back this year, so
Starting point is 01:54:51 you'll probably can have him on the end and he'll be just what Adams was. I believe if you played him, say 25, 27 minutes, I believe he can give you the kind of rebounds that Adams give you. He'll give you a double-double. Yeah, because you defense. He'll give you a double-double. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:07 Because, you know, he'll give you a double-double. He's going to get physical. He's going to get physical down there. And that's going to open up a lot of stuff for John Moran. Because now you have a real enforcer down there where no one is going to be trying to hit you. Right? And, you know, that's the one guy I see without breaking up what I have. Because what I have right now is 4-0.
Starting point is 01:55:27 Right. Because when I look at it, I think Dwight Howard, even at his age, is still more athletic than Steven Adams. Oh, yeah. Facts. Facts. Facts. So I think that would be
Starting point is 01:55:37 a good move. Jalen Brown likes a tweet pushing back at UD. Your daughter has some comments on Bill Russell. Haslam apparently said, F. Russell, after the NBA announced a league-wide jersey retirement
Starting point is 01:55:48 for the legendary Celtics star. Haslam said, tell me when you gonna see Miami Heat jersey hanging in Boston, said Haslam. I have to repent. I had to repent that. I love Bill. No disrespect to Bill.
Starting point is 01:55:59 I love him. Will you ever see a jersey hanging in the Boston Rafter? Why? You know what? He got it hanging there. UD, you know, I like UD. But I think the thing is what UD is failing to miss,
Starting point is 01:56:13 what he's missing is sometimes a player is so good and so great, they transcend the sport. Because he's more than just a basketball player it's kind of like jackie robinson jackie robinson they were they retired 42 league wide because he transcended the sport was he the best player in baseball no but what he did should never be forgotten. Bill Russell was the same way. What he went through, even in Boston, as he was winning all those titles
Starting point is 01:56:50 at that summit, I think it was 67, in which the summit in Cleveland happened. He was there. Bill Russell is a civil rights icon. Muhammad Ali, is Muhammad Ali the greatest boxer? No.
Starting point is 01:57:03 But he transcends the sport. And sometimes when a person is transcendental, I mean, whatever is bestowed upon him is worthy. Bill Russell having his number retired across the league is worthy. having his number retired across the league is worthy. Jackie Robinson, having his number retired across baseball is worthy. So I don't, and I get, I think he was just looking at it like, man, he's from Boston, but you have to look at the other stuff. Hey, the basketball is a thing.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Obviously, he had to be great at basketball. But it's the other things is the reason why he's hanging across everywhere. When it's playoff times and we beating the enemy, we don't care about what you transcend. We're trying to get out of this series and I got to tell my team whatever I have to tell them to get over this hump. These two
Starting point is 01:58:12 teams have been battling for the last three, four years. And no matter what they trying to do, when I see that number at this point in time up there while we're playing this team,
Starting point is 01:58:29 I don't care what his history is. We trying to get out of this series. We trying to get to the championship. And that Boston jersey, that legacy is in our way. How about this here? You do realize the Miami Heat retired Michael Jordan's number.
Starting point is 01:58:46 So why he ain't say LVM FMJ because they ain't playing Chicago Bulls they ain't playing Chicago Bulls I mean Pat Riley retired that thing before number 6 he said ain't nobody should wear 23 well I want 23 but they're not playing Chicago Bulls in the playoffs if you looking up at the rafters worried about
Starting point is 01:59:02 what's hanging across your arena, you already beat. But who won? So it worked. Whatever the speech was. Whatever the speech was. Who won? They gagged.
Starting point is 01:59:19 But you got to remember that. You got to remember. The Miami Heat, they lost that game in their arena. They went, they had to go back to the, I guess they still call it the guard, the TD Banks, the TD Banks. I think it's TD Banks. So they had to end up having to win there.
Starting point is 01:59:34 But like I said, I just think the thing is that if you understood, it's kind of like, you know, Cleveland, you understand with Jim Brown because he was, we know he was a historical figure as far as running the football, but it was what he did in the Civil Rights Movement that gave him the added credence and
Starting point is 01:59:56 the cachet. I don't think when UD was, when he did that speech, none of that really mattered to him, right? He's just trying to figure out as a guy to get these guys over the hump,
Starting point is 02:00:12 to really try to put some type of fire into them, right? In times like that, there was times where we being, you know, we got like Larry Hughes, right? We playing Larry and we got Larry Hughes. We playing Larry.
Starting point is 02:00:27 And we got speeches that, that's him. He left us. Boom, boom. We got to go in and say it. That's not how we felt. But we got to show each other that we're willing to do whatever it takes to get through this hump. And if Larry's in our way, Larry's in our way. And that's really what that speech was. We're just
Starting point is 02:00:45 hearing about it now. Wait a minute, you can't say that? Well, to get them to do what he needed to do, Jalen, if y'all should have got over game seven, y'all should have said, F them. I don't know if you heard about this, Gil,
Starting point is 02:01:01 but there's a situation where Sean McDermott, the head coach of the Buffalo Bills, he used a reference about 9-11. And it ended up getting out and he had to apologize. He had to walk it back. And I think this was a situation because, like you said, doing a pregame speech or you trying to get somebody motivated, you say a lot of stuff. Yeah. A lot of stuff. Yeah. Say a lot of stuff. But sometimes like as as fans or whatever
Starting point is 02:01:28 like you can't take everything for what it is. Like this is a different time now Gil. I know. Gil is a different time. Gil the stuff the stuff that we would say
Starting point is 02:01:38 in the locker room and y'all say in the locker room that ain't gonna fly now. Yeah. No facts. Hey you gonna get canceled. You gonna get canceled. You're going to get canceled.
Starting point is 02:01:47 You understand that and you have to be able to maneuver. But now everybody's offended about everything. And I think that's the problem with sports is the fact that every group is willing to
Starting point is 02:02:04 cancel is the reason why everyone's reluctant to have certain type of groups inside the organization right because if something happens right that's natural how we talk and how we prep each other and you're canceling me then it's easier for me not to accept that person here we won't we won't say we're discriminating, but we are. But that is easier versus you canceling me for saying something inappropriate. Zion got a chest tattoo. I want to know.
Starting point is 02:02:40 I thought that was you busting out there, just gorilla, man. Man, you know good well I ain't got no stomach like that. I don't know where busting out there. Just gorilla, man. Man, you know good well. I ain't got no stomach like that. I don't know where you got that from. I just want to know one thing, Gil. Who going to tell him it's not centered? Listen, listen. Maybe it's supposed to be a little over the heart.
Starting point is 02:03:01 Maybe that was the way it was designed. A little over the heart. But I want a Zion man. be a little over the heart. Maybe that was the way it was designed. A little over the heart. But I want a Zion, man. Come on, man. Right? I get the concept, right? You want to put a... What was that gorilla name?
Starting point is 02:03:18 Harambe? Yeah, Harambe. You got Harambe on your chest, man, but the belly is what stopped me, man. It reminded me of what Stephen A said, man. He was at the Frito line, and his belly getting to bouncing. Soon as I seen him with his shirt off,
Starting point is 02:03:33 that's all I looked at. Like, oh, Stephen A was right. That was... Man, look. You got the tattoos, Gil? Whole body. I got corporate tats. I coined it.
Starting point is 02:03:53 I called it corporate tats. Tats where I like tattoos, but to get my corporate sponsors, not on my neck, not on my sleeves. Face. Yeah, yeah. So I have tats all in
Starting point is 02:04:07 where the jersey covers everything. Right. So I call it a corporate tat, where I like the tattoos, but you couldn't see them. I'm not going to score scare corporations off from having me a part of their brand. Flip
Starting point is 02:04:23 St. Felix asked, no question, guys. Just wanted to say, Shannon and Gil, you guys are killing the game. And watching y'all dominate this media is beyond inspiring. Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate the support. Dr. Shark Monk said, do NBA, NFL players avoid getting intimate, having sex before a big game like boxers do for weeks or have fresh legs. Hell no.
Starting point is 02:04:46 I don't know about you, but hell no. Ain't a boy nothing. I mean, we're in the hotel night before a game, so it makes it a little bit more difficult because we have security at the elevator. We have security at the end of the hall. So ain't nobody, I mean, once we have bed check, so once we have
Starting point is 02:05:02 bed check, I mean, they lock it down. But hell no. Weeks? check, I mean, they lock it down. But hell no. Weeks? Man, I ain't no boxer. I mean, I understand they go up to Big Bear or they go to, you know, these places and they in training camp for six, eight weeks and then, hell no.
Starting point is 02:05:17 Hell to the no. I'm going to try to shake the covers Friday night because I know I'm about to be locked down on Saturday. No, but look, I can only speak to me. Got a shark monk that when you ask, I don't know whatever NBA players, I don't know what any NFL players do. Maybe some do, maybe some don't.
Starting point is 02:05:38 But no, I'm not going no six weeks or once the season start going without sex. That ain't going to happen. I mean, Friday, I mean, 24 hours, 48 hours. going no six weeks or once the season start going without sex. That ain't gonna happen. I mean, Friday, I mean, 24 hours, 48 hours. That's all I got for you. Did we lose communication with Gil?
Starting point is 02:05:56 I think we lost Gil. Lost Gil, lost the signal. Headquarters, you got us. Man, y'all stop. That man ain't about to get no tattoo or no cheeseburger. He ain't getting no neck bone on his neck. Come on now. Y'all do it
Starting point is 02:06:11 too much, chat. Y'all wrong for this. The man got a tattoo. Okay. He wanted a tattoo on his body. It's a heart. I think he got it like a silverback in the center of the cross. I'm going to read it. If Gil joins us back,
Starting point is 02:06:28 we're going to go back and revisit that question. Dub D asks, Duncan Gil, what y'all think about Rasheed Wallace isn't in NBA 2K because they only wanted to pay Vince $10,000 to be in the game. He won $125,000, but they refused
Starting point is 02:06:44 to pay it. 2K000 to be in the game. He won $125,000, but they refused to pay it. 2K makes hundreds of millions a year. I get it, because we're in the same situation, and but I think it's nice that I'm a part of the game, and I think, you know, I think Sheed, I ain't counting that
Starting point is 02:07:01 man's pocket, but he feels that the adequate and the proper compensation would be one hundred and twenty five K. I'm not here to tell him he's right or wrong. Me, I wanted to be a part of it. And so, you know, hey, it's not much, but I'm not hurt for money. I'm doing my own thing. I don't think he's hurt for money either, but that's he wants to stand on that. Hey, guy, you making making hundreds of millions of dollars. What's $125K? But then when you start paying everybody
Starting point is 02:07:29 $125K, I don't think the game is going to last too long. So for me, I understand him standing on it. I also understand 2K said, nah, we good, bro. We'll have the Pistons or the Trailbla, and you won't be a part of it. Gil, you back yet?
Starting point is 02:07:50 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah, man, she done hacked the system. Dr. Shark Monk, he asked, do NBA, NFL players avoid getting intimate, having sex before a big game like boxers do for weeks to have fresh legs. And does that work? I was saying, Gil, nah, bro. I ain't no boxer. I'm going to shake the covers Friday
Starting point is 02:08:13 because I'm going to be locked down Saturday. So no, my legs should be recovered by the time I hit the field on Sunday. So no, I'm not going a week. I'm not going a month. I'm not doing any of that. O'Shea going to shake the I'm not going a month. I'm not doing any of that. O'Shea go shake the covers for dog on Friday. Like, it's ritual.
Starting point is 02:08:30 So I had a teammate who got some fellatio before the game, hit five threes. Well, you got to call up back the next game. So, you know, every game game that's what he had to do okay every game he go to the parking lot right before the tip off go to the parking lot get a little thing done come on to the game yeah right hey and a superstition is a powerful thing man most powerful thing i i didn't listen I didn't because I heard the story. Magic Johnson back in the day said he didn't have sex the night before the game.
Starting point is 02:09:12 Right. And that's all I grew up knowing. The night before the game, don't have sex. Magic Johnson said don't have sex the night before the game. Right. So that's what I always did. So there was a certain time, 9, 10 o'clock that I stopped. So I didn't do it on game day. Right. Just So that's what I always did. So there was a certain time, 9, 10 o'clock, that I stopped. So I didn't do it on game day.
Starting point is 02:09:28 Just because that's what I thought. But I know it wouldn't affect me. It was just, that's what, you know. So you didn't do another night before either? Like, you know, 10, 11, 12? Yeah. Not on game day, no. Oh, but see, we had security on the floor. So we couldn't, I mean,
Starting point is 02:09:43 I'm sure some guys were able to speak to me. Wait, what? What do you mean security? What was security for? No women on the floor. I mean, we couldn't have anybody on the floor. We had room check. We had bed check. Wait, as a grown man? As a grown man, yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:00 Wait, wait, wait. Y'all had curfew? Yes. Oh, no, oh, no, no. Y'all had curfew? Yes. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah, for sure. No, no. We knew. You need to be an NBA player for about one good year. That's why I said I had to shake the cup before dark on Friday. Because I knew I was going to be locked down.
Starting point is 02:10:19 Either on the road or in the hotel. Because even at home, we stayed in the hotel night before the game. What? Yes. You stayed in the hotel night before the game. What? Yes, you stayed in the hotel night before the game. Oh, we partied. Oh, no. We partied. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:10:33 Most of us are coming in at 6, 7 in the morning from the club. Yeah, but see, y'all games that night, so you could do that. See, we played at 1, 2 o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah, because we just going to sleep all day. We just going to sleep all day. Right. Uh-uh. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 02:10:48 Uh-uh. Because Mike is telling us Friday, and Brian was always telling us after the practice, we're done practice around 1 o'clock on Friday. All right. Go home. Get off your feet. If you got, you know. Hey.
Starting point is 02:11:00 And when, you know, I did. I got off my feet. You know what I mean? Yeah. I was off my feet. Yeah, that's great. That's did, I got off my feet. You know what I mean? I was off my feet. Yeah, that's great. I was off my feet. Y'all didn't even get to have fun.
Starting point is 02:11:13 We haven't. Listen, listen. If I. Oh, you can't hang with no basketball player. We ought to be good. I'd be good. I'd be good. We run them through the hotel. You got the same girl going through four, five rooms.
Starting point is 02:11:30 What? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to do this. Oh, yeah. She coming on down. Yo, hey, and she got a friend. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:39 Oh, yeah, you don't let nobody travel in packs. Oh, yeah, I can't handle all these girls. Come on down here. Yeah, I got three, four coming. That ain't happening in the girls. Come on down here. Yeah, I got three folk coming. That ain't happening in the field. Security can be come. But see now, Gil, Gil, I wouldn't want no part of that now. With the way
Starting point is 02:11:54 it's set up now, are you going to get... It's a simple... Let me say your simple rule, Gil. No means no. Maybe means no. And sometimes yes means no tomorrow. All that, no, maybe means no, and sometimes yes means no tomorrow. All that, no, no, no, leave it alone, girl. Leave it alone.
Starting point is 02:12:12 Cash means yes, right? Cash means yes. As soon as they take that cash, they mean yeah, right? So we paying. What'd you say? Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Yeah, we got receipts.
Starting point is 02:12:26 Oh, let me cash app you this. Cash app sin. I ain't got no app. So I ain't got no cash. You have to know my phone. But I ain't got no Uber. I ain't got no. I ain't got nothing.
Starting point is 02:12:36 I mean, have you noticed, though, the NBA players ain't getting called out for that? Yeah. Yeah, man. Y'all. But see, y'all got a different life. See, y'all see basketball like basketball and baseball player. Y'all, y'all. But see, y'all got a different life. See, y'all see basketball like basketball and baseball player.
Starting point is 02:12:48 Y'all done drove the price up. Y'all, y'all inflation. Y'all done drove the price up the hill. I mean, you used to be, you know, fang under you with your hair done. You know, you get your nails done.
Starting point is 02:12:58 And you know, you pay a little bill here or there. Oh, yeah, we messed up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Y'all done drove the price sky high. Y'all sky high, yeah. We messed up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:09 We fly. We fly private jet. We're going to get you a hundred thousand just to get you. See, that's what I'm saying. Oh, see, I need them. I need them pre-pandemic prices.
Starting point is 02:13:19 See, see, see, pandemic happened and everything was scarce. I needed to go back to pre-pandemic. Yes. I can't give you all your own, man. The basketball players, I told y'all, the basketball
Starting point is 02:13:32 players, the baseball players, they're never level. We buying the Birkin bag. We gonna put the $30,000, $40,000 in there just to talk to you. We gonna try to spoil you just to get it. Oh, it's over. Oh, Lord. Y'all see that? Hey.
Starting point is 02:13:49 NFL players. That's why we ain't got no chance. That's why we can't compete with them. I'm already telling y'all, don't bring your track shoes y'all want to keep up with the NBA player. Bring your checkbook. And when people hear me talk, I say,
Starting point is 02:14:04 y'all don't understand. I got a different playbook. And when people hear me talk, I say, y'all don't understand. I got a different playbook. My playbook, I get to say whatever I want. Because what they're going to do, I can just get a new one. Right? How I, like, girls are like,
Starting point is 02:14:14 yeah, don't talk to me like that. I get you. And then the people above me, get you too. You know what I mean? And they say, hey, hey, what time you going to be over here? You said nine, I'm horny right now.
Starting point is 02:14:27 I'm gonna call somebody else. I'll see you later. I get to do that. No, I'll be over right now. Well, whoever get here first, that's who I'm letting in. So what if they show at the same time? Hey, y'all like each other hey look
Starting point is 02:14:48 the NBA the NBA the NBA player gonna try we say whatever because we can I'm scared and that's the problem like we really like we
Starting point is 02:15:02 we rule we compromise because we And that's the problem. We really like, we rule. We compromise because we can go in the DM and then get the talking. We should talk regularly. I'll just holler at your friend or I'll holler at this person. I want all four of y'all to come back.
Starting point is 02:15:18 We just sitting there just playing mismatch. And that's the problem. And guess what? sitting there just playing mismatch. And that's the problem. But and guess what? You ain't gonna catch us in public with them. So that means listen, we treating girls who are high
Starting point is 02:15:39 sadidi, turn them into 304s. That's for's holes backwards. You know your superstar women, them stars? Yeah. Yeah, they come sneaking in the hotel two in the morning and go and leave out. So you know, I was wondering.
Starting point is 02:15:59 I say, man, why everybody got a G-Wagon? Why they got a Birkin bag and they got an AP zone? Y'all ain't got no job like, oh! Now it makes sense, Gil. I was wondering every time I go on IG and I'm looking, she got a G-Wagon. She got a Birkin bag. She got an AP. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:16:20 Look, they date the NBA player for the luxury they date the nfl player for the love y'all gonna show them the attention that they need oh lord listen i can i can fly you out from miami we go to miami club you you are in town with me and i took somebody else home yeah i'm just gonna get you a new hotel room. She better. Wow. I ain't got that guy. I ain't never had that guy. I ain't never been that ballsy. Well, I ain't never... First of all, I ain't never flew out to... I ain't never went to a party like that, like y'all be
Starting point is 02:16:55 doing it. I guess I'm about to go out there and let my hair down. See what y'all here being played on putting down. Go on there, try it on. Look, look. Go to the next celebrity you see. Go to the next celebrity you see. Hey, listen. I want you for the night. I'll put it down. Go on there. Try it on. Look, look. Go to the next celebrity you see. Go to the next celebrity you see. Hey, listen. I want you for the night. I got about 45 minutes.
Starting point is 02:17:10 And what you got for me? Nothing. You'll be surprised. Here's the thing. I get it, Gil. Look. At my age, I'm 55. I'm a little bit of a celebrity.
Starting point is 02:17:20 Dead playing in the NFL. And I get that at my age because of who I am, the dating pool is a lot more open than say somebody 55 that's not in my position. I get it. But I ain't no fool, Naguil. It ain't all the way open.
Starting point is 02:17:37 Now, if I was 25 or 35, I got to play you know. You're right. So, you know, I got to play book you know you're right so you know I'm I had to stay in my lane Gil you know hey you know that new Florida law
Starting point is 02:17:53 you got to be at least driving 65 in the far left lane I ain't all the way to the right I'm in the lane next to the far right lane and I'm doing like 58. Hey, quick question though. So since you're 55, is the problem that
Starting point is 02:18:11 55-year-old women don't look good? Is it that the 55-year-old women don't look like kept up like you do? Is that a problem? The God's honest truth. Women my age looking for guys
Starting point is 02:18:31 younger. And me, I ain't no said day. Me too. So we both looking for different. We looking over each other looking for something else. It is what it is. It is what it is. Mm-hmm. So we both looking for different. We looking over each other looking for something else. Mm-hmm. It is what it is.
Starting point is 02:18:48 It is what it is. Bam. Bam. I'm at 40, so I'm good. Man, you in the sweet spot. You in the sweet spot. They say like when you date,
Starting point is 02:18:59 when you looking for a girlfriend or wife, half your age plus seven. That's supposed to be your cutoff. Okay. Half your age plus seven. That's supposed to be your cutoff. Half your age plus seven. So you're theoretically, so from 27, I guess all the way to 40 is in your wheelhouse. Okay.
Starting point is 02:19:18 I ain't telling nobody my age. I ain't really 55. Actually, I'm 37. He said I'm 37. age. I ain't really 55. Actually, I'm 37. He said, I ain't really 37. Nah, Gil.
Starting point is 02:19:31 I just, look. I just can't. I mean, I just ain't never had that kind of gumption to be able to, you know. I mean, I will. I could sense early on if somebody wasn't feeling me, and that's cool.
Starting point is 02:19:46 I ain't never called nobody out their name because they didn't want to holler at me or they found my boy more attractive or somebody had more money. I'm cool. I'm good with it. It ain't the end of the world. I think my no chill personality lets me get away with a lot more. Because they already, they expect it. Right? They expect it right they expect they expect it on like if i go out
Starting point is 02:20:07 there right now and say yeah uh anybody charging for for you know vagina i'll have a whole dm full of models and celebrities or were you playing when you said that hey big head like sometimes I just say this shit just to say it right I don't even leave my goddamn house I just just to say it just for kicks and giggles
Starting point is 02:20:37 everybody wants to be a good dude so I just want to be a bad dude just to see just hey someone has to someone has to talk for the slime balls bro antonio robertson said oh you gotta stop let steven a get away with that joe and dad passing excuse many people uh lose loved ones but just didn't quit their job brian better look i mean we gail i know you've heard everything that was said, that there were other extenuating circumstances was the reason that Jordan left the NBA. I don't know. He said it was a lot of pressure.
Starting point is 02:21:12 I know the man had a very, very close relationship with his dad. And that's a lot. That's a lot. Given the tragedy, the tragic manner in which it happened and the gravity of what happened. So I don't know. You know, they said it was other things where that led. He was suspended. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:21:32 And so all I know is that the man stepped away for a year and a half and came back and he wasn't quite the same wearing the 45. But when he showed back up in 96 with that 2-3. That 2-3? That 2-3. That 2-3. That 2-3. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it was like we've heard the stories, right? We've heard the whispers.
Starting point is 02:21:55 I've talked to refs, you know, and, you know, there's some things that went on. But, you know, it was a mutual step away, right? It was a mutual step away. You know, right now, you know, as the face of the league, you know, we don't know if we can control all this drama. So you step away, going on, let the world miss you, and then you come back and then we can just talk about basketball. Sometimes things like that have to happen,
Starting point is 02:22:30 especially when who he was at the time. Yeah. The things we heard, you don't want that type of cloud over the NBA, especially for who he was. Anybody else, yes, but not him.
Starting point is 02:22:45 Not him. Nikki Wynn underscore 804 said, hey there, Gil, being from Richmond, Virginia, I'm a Wizards fan because of you. They're the only team in D.C. I support. So Nikki Wynn underscore 804, she's a big fan of yours,
Starting point is 02:23:02 Gil. Girl, there's only two teams in D.C. You got the Wizards and you got Georgetown. And the Wizards is about to be going to Virginia, so I hope you got your bus fare or your gas money because that's where you're going. She's in Richmond.
Starting point is 02:23:18 We loved Richmond. We used to have training camp in Richmond. That was a good... It was perfect for training camp. We used to have training camp in Richmond. That was a good... It was perfect for training camp. We went down there George Mason all the time to train. Raiders mom, 2489.
Starting point is 02:23:34 Please shout out our son, Raider. He's 17 months old, was born with five holes in his heart. 14 months in the hospital, but he's finally home. God is good. Raiders mom, 2489. Congratulations. All the best to mom, 2489. Congratulations. All the best to you. A Raider.
Starting point is 02:23:50 Hopefully after 14 months in the hospital, he's 17 months old. Finally home. Congratulations. And hopefully he has a long, healthy, prosperous life. God is good.
Starting point is 02:24:00 Thank you. Raiders mom, 2489 for sharing that. Hey, his name is Raider. His name is Raider. She named his son. We know a team. What football fan he's going to be a fan of? Can't be. JJ asks,
Starting point is 02:24:14 do you think Pistons losing streak should be a reminder to other rebuilding teams the risk of getting it wrong? No. The losing streak is more of
Starting point is 02:24:29 they found out how to be bad. Yeah, you got to practice this, Bill. Ain't no way you can practice being good and be this bad, so you got to practice being bad. You got to, the habits of what you do every day, it's the look like when you're
Starting point is 02:24:46 talking about what makes a great team great is the little things they do when their shots not falling, when they're making those extra little plays. I took a charge here, dove out of the bounds, hustled back on defense. You make those little extra plays.
Starting point is 02:25:02 That's what the winning teams do. Now, the opposite, bad teams, they make all the wrong plays at the right time for their opponent. Taking the bad shot, turning the ball over, right? You know, you had five turnovers for the game. Four of them was in the last minute, right? Yeah. You just find ways to lose. And when you're a bad team team it's more mental than it is
Starting point is 02:25:27 the game itself right right as they go on a run and hit two threes you look at each other oh we lost again oh we lost again now there's the first quarter everybody hit down right and and that's what it is like there there has to be a moment in time where if you think positive, it will happen. You go in and say, we're going to win this game. No matter how many shots they make, we're going to cheer, we're going to stand, we're going to root. I need the bench. I need you guys. Stand up the rest
Starting point is 02:25:55 of the game. We're going to cheer. We need to be our own battery pack. And the day they do that is the day they get out of this slump. But right now, they are lunch meat. Wow. That's really tough. Please make sure you hit that like button.
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