Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Jerry Jeudy vs. Steve Smith + Will & Jada's Split
Episode Date: October 13, 2023Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson discuss the bizarre situation between Jerry Jeudy and Steve Smith, how good of a receiver Jeudy is, Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith's separation, what the r...ight level of privacy is in a relationship, and more. #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us again this is nightcap i'm your favorite punk shannon and sharp he's your favorite receiver number 85 chad ocho cinco johnson ocho yo beat
the broncos 19 to 8 but seemingly the biggest drama took place before the game.
Steve Smith tried to talk to Jerry and Judy about some of the comments that he said before.
Mm-hmm.
And he got an opportunity, and they asked him, and Smitty, who you know, Steve, very well.
You played, you guys went to junior college together.
Yes, sir.
He said that Judy told him, Ninja, and we know in our community what Ninja mean. Right. I don't know nothing about together. Yes, sir. He said that Judy told him ninja,
and we know in our community what ninja mean.
Right.
I don't know what you.
Mm-hmm.
And then during a segment in which Steve Smith Sr. was talking,
Jerry Judy started dancing and singing behind Smitty.
What's your takeaway from what transpired before the game?
We're going to get into the game.
Well, obviously before the game, what transpired?
One of the things that I always told you about and one of the things that I have to get better at is being able to navigate and delivering and being critical of players without it becoming personal for them.
And that is something very, very difficult that players in today's game are not really good with. They're not good at taking criticism and being able to use that constructive criticism at time
and being able to channel that
and allow it to fuel them to go out and perform
to the magnitude and to the standard
in which we hold them to.
Obviously, some of the things that Steve said
didn't sit well with Jerry.
So as a player, as a player myself,
I kind of understand where Jerry's coming from.
And then as being on the other end of the spectrum and knowing what Steve
Smith was trying to do and hoping that the words that he used actually fuel
Jerry in a positive manner, but obviously it didn't go that way.
And it probably wouldn't go that way for many players when they hear former
players talk about them in that way and knowing Steve and how Steve is,
he's a straight, he's a straight shooter.
He going to tell you like it is based on how he feels and based on the production that you've done, you know, to this point.
With that being said, I love Jerry.
I love Steve.
I would like for him to be able to go out and be maybe the only shining light on that Broncos offense.
So he doesn't have to deal with the scrutiny.
But nobody is playing well right now with Broncos offense. So he doesn't have to deal with the scrutiny, but nobody is playing well right now with Broncos.
So why we're sending Jerry Judy out when everything right now,
it seemed like it's singing like the guy.
That's not what you said earlier.
You said Russ was playing well.
That's not what you said.
Just,
just a week.
You said Russell Wilson.
You tried to argue me that Russell Wilson.
Okay.
Please.
I'm talking about everybody. I'm talking. No, no, no, no no no no no no no no no no mentality right just the other day
you argue with me that that Russell Wilson had performed better than Patrick Mahomes
and then I corrected you and you said Russell Wilson had played well. It's the defense that's bad. Now you're saying that, Jerry, now nobody is playing well.
So which is it?
Is Russell Wilson playing well or is he going to play well?
Wait a minute.
The team is 1-4, right?
Yes.
Is the team 1-4?
Yes.
Okay, the team is 1-4.
So as a whole, they're not playing well altogether.
They're 1-5 now.
Oh, yeah, they're 1-5 now.
Why are we singling out them?
And then the defense played well tonight. The defense played well tonight. 1-5 now. Oh yeah, they're 1-5 now. Why are we singling out them? And then the defense played well
tonight. The defense played well tonight.
Listen to me now. It was a two-possession
game all the way up to the goddamn fourth quarter
tonight. They had ample time
and ample opportunity to make it a game.
And the refs
tried to make it a game, obviously,
towards the end on that non
roughing the passer.
They did that on purpose.
Let's make it a game for them.
So let me ask you this.
If at one and four, nobody was playing well,
why were you trumpeting Russell Wilson's calls?
What?
Why was that, what?
Trumpeting Russell Wilson's calls.
You said Russell Wilson was playing well.
Now, hold on just a second.
Now to help build your case why Jerry Judy isn't playing well,
you said no one is playing well, and so why are we piling on Jerry Judy?
I'm talking about we're piling on Jerry Judy when offensively
the team in itself is not playing well.
We're not seeing the Russell Wilson we're used to seeing
that we saw when he was with the Seahawks.
We all know that.
But his numbers aren't what they were with the Seahawks,
but they're not as bad as we were trying to make it seem
if you pull up the goddamn numbers.
Russell Wilson was 13-22 for 95 yards.
He got 37 of those yards on that touchdown drive
with one touchdown and two interceptions.
So again, now you sure?
Go ahead.
Now you're talking about tonight's game. Now before that, I'm saying before you sure? Oh, go ahead. Now you talk about tonight's game.
Now before that, I'm saying before that,
they were playing decent football.
He was playing decent football.
That's not what you said.
You just said nobody was playing well.
Now you're coming back, reframing it,
saying they were playing decent.
Now, which is it?
Well, it's both of them.
If you look at it from both spectrums,
both sides of it.
Well, how you, if you're one in four,
how are you playing decent?
Well, ain't nobody playing as good as we want them to.
That's why they're one and four.
But that's not what you just said, Ocho.
You just said they were playing decent.
Decent ain't going to win you no games.
You know that, right?
Oh, really?
Decent ain't going to win you no games.
You know that, right?
Stay with me.
You know that.
Decent ain't going to win you no games.
So you think think hold on
jerry judy was the 15th overall pick yeah jerry judy uh there are five receivers in that same
draft class that have more receiving yards than jerry judy's 2500 and 2503 and nine touchdown
justin jefferson who was selected after jerry judy t Justin Jefferson, who was selected after Jerry Judy.
T. Higgins, who was selected after Jerry Judy.
CeeDee Lamb, who was selected after Jerry Judy.
Brandon Ayuk, who was selected after Jerry Judy.
Michael Pittman Jr., who was selected after Jerry Judy.
All of those guys have more receiving yards, more touchdowns.
How about I do you this one?
There were two receivers that were selected in the draft after him.
That's been more productive than Jerry Judy.
Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle, and Armand St. Brown and Devontae Smith
are within 100 yards who were selected in the draft after him of Jerry Judy.
And so you're saying...
Hold on just a second. hold on just a second.
Okay.
Hold on just a second.
So you're saying the criticism that Steve Smith said,
the constructive criticism of a guy that has over a thousand catches,
a guy that's been to multiple Pro Bowls,
one of five guys, if I'm not mistaken, to possess the Triple Crown,
lead the league in yards, catches, and touchdowns
in the same calendar season.
So you're saying his critique of Jerry Judy is unfair.
I said the delivery of the critique was unfair.
We missed that part.
We missed that part.
Because if it was fair, then Jerry wouldn't, there would be no reason for him to be mad.
He's mad for a reason.
You just said that the players take the criticism.
They don't handle it well.
So should he have to deliver for the Amazon prime FedEx standard mail?
How should he have delivered it?
And I don't, I don't,
I don't like what you did because you just ran out all the people that were
drafted before and after him.
And look at the team that you're naming that are using the players to their advantages look about you're naming you're naming
jamar chase well okay you're naming you're naming justin jefferson well you're naming jaylen wattle
well look at what the team is doing with them you do hold on to their strengths you do realize
that when teams select a player before these
other players are selected, you do
realize the expectation is
what? For that player to perform
at a level at
that or above what said players
that were drafted after them. You do know how to draft
works, right? Right. I do know how it works,
right? And you know how production works, right?
You know how production works? Yes.
And then targets and being able to produce,
you have to be able to put in a position to do that, right?
Yes.
You have to be able to be put in a position to do that.
It don't just happen.
It don't just happen by yourself.
Yes.
Hey, you know what?
Even Claypool, Chase Claypool, who's on his third team?
Yeah.
In the same draft as Jerry Judith.
Yes, sir.
Has four more touchdowns.
Oh, so we trying to nitpick?
Ain't no nitpicking. You just
said players don't handle constructive
criticism because you
said the delivery.
I have a question. Shandy, you know
good and well they don't take it well because you are
very critical of players and you deliver your
message in the way you're going to deliver it and you're not motherfucking changing
the way you deliver that message when they're not playing the way they should based on the
standard that you hold them by and you know they don't take it well can i ask you a question yes
sir why don't why they don't get upset when i give them credit why don't i say man oh give me too
much credit i don't need all that credit man that listen that that's that's the layer that's the
layer of landscape that's the nature of the landscape. That's the nature of the beast.
That's just the way it is.
So guess what? That's the layer of the land.
When you're on this side of the camera,
that's the layer of the land. You play well, I say
you play well. You play bad, I say you
play bad. Right.
But I just, but I
thought it was a little bit unprofessional.
You see them doing an interview and then
you come on the sideline and you start dancing and bucking behind them. Oh, so now it was a little bit unprofessional. You see them doing an interview, and then you come on the sideline
and you start dancing and bucking behind them.
Oh, oh, oh, so now it's a problem.
Oh, it's a problem?
Hold on, let me ask you a question.
Oh, so now it's a problem.
What's that profession?
You can shoot how you want to on the camera and the mic,
but then when the person see you in person,
now it's a problem on how they want to dance,
why they want to get ready for the game?
You do realize that Steve Smith approached him like a man
and wanted to have a conversation
to say, bro, if you took
anything that I said,
I want to apologize.
Oh, he did say sorry.
Well, bro, he wasn't
feeling it. He wasn't feeling it.
But you know what?
Jared, you can make the others go away if he played
better. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, three catches tonight for 14 yards.
So what's that supposed to do?
So what's that supposed to do?
Can I ask you a question?
He had three for 14 tonight, right?
Yeah.
So you are blaming the production and the targets that he was afforded on him
and why he had three for 14.
Was he open?
Well, shit.
Don't do that. It might stink.
I have a question. Can I, can I, can I say something real quick?
You have half of your show. Of course you can.
Listen, you got Puka Nakua over with the Rams, right?
Yes.
Of course you can.
Listen, you got Puka Nakua over with the Rams, right?
Yes.
Had 39 for 501 yards up until, I think, maybe last week,
until Kuba Cup banged back.
So you mean to tell me that the Rams have figured out a way to get a rookie to lead the league in catches and receptions, but over here in Denver,
we have a talent like that of Jerry Judy,
which I've seen since he was Alabama.
I saw him in high school at Deerfield beach senior high.
And all of a sudden he gets to the Broncos.
He drafted a certain place 15th,
if I'm not mistaken in the first round,
right?
15th.
Yep.
And they don't know how to use them to his strengths,
but he'd been doing it at every motherfucking level.
Oh shit.
My bad.
My bad.
My bad.
He'd been doing it every level,
but all of a sudden he gets to the Broncos.
Now it's something wrong with him. Now he can't get'd be doing it every level, but all of a sudden he gets to the Broncos, now there's something wrong with him.
Now he can't get open.
Now he can't get open all of a sudden.
One of the best route runners in the game
today, now he can't get open all of a sudden.
Under your premise, if you
had a great high school career, if you
had a great college career, therefore
that should translate into a great pro
career. So hold on, let me finish, let me finish.
So how many guys, every guy in the NFL had a great pro career. So hold on. Let me finish. Let me finish. So how many guys,
every guy in the NFL had a great high school or college career.
So therefore under your,
under your theory,
if you had those two great high school,
great college,
therefore you should have a great pro career.
If that's how it works.
Listen,
what you're not going to see him do is see him talk about Jerry Judy.
Like he's some below average receiver.
That's what we're not going to do because the production is not what it should be.
And it ain't on, it ain't fucking on him.
But see, it ain't on him.
We not, we not finna do that.
Don't, don't do that.
All I know is, hold on.
If, now all I know is that Sean Payton has had other receivers.
You look at the guys that he coached in New Orleans, they got it done.
You told me Russell Wilson was playing well, but see,
and a lot of other people have told me Russell,
but when you don't watch the game and all you look at the box scores and then
you will look at it and you say, Russell did play well.
But if you watch the game, you can see Russell has not played well.
But when you a stat watcher and not a game watcher,
you won't be able to differentiate between the two.
But I can.
With that being said,
in other words, you think Jerry
and I believe, listen,
I was wrong because I
thought he was the most talented receiver
coming out in the draft. I thought
he should have been the first receiver off the board.
You know
what he can do.
You know what he can do. You know what he can do.
All you have to do,
you're not going to...
If they can do it with Puka Nakua
and with the Ram, they can do it with Jerry
Judy because of the difference in skill.
He got the DNA to make up, to be
a difference maker, but they're not using him the right
goddamn way. It's really simple.
It's really simple. It's not that
hard. I think
the thing is, is that you
have, because he's from Florida, and
he played at Deerfield.
Don't look at it.
Ocho,
the man is underachieved.
It's as simple as that. Now,
here it is now. I mean,
this is third offensive coordinator.
This is third offensive coordinator. Oh, it's third offensive coordinator.
Yeah. Okay. Oh, okay.
Third. Yeah.
Yeah. So when they make the excuse for
quarterbacks having a third offensive coordinator
as the reason why their production isn't
what it should be, is it different
when it's a receiver?
No, no, no. I don't
make excuses.
I call it like it is.
Because guess what?
At some point in time,
we see what we got to stop always with the coaching.
It's the coaching.
Maybe the guy just isn't going to be
what we expected him.
And that's okay.
Ocho, you do realize
everybody that goes in the first round
is not meant to have the level of success that we thought they would have because of where they were selected in the draft.
You do understand that, right?
Yeah, I do understand.
I do understand that.
Are you sure you understand that?
Yeah, I understand it clear as day.
But I also, I have the eye test.
And I also am not dumb.
Well, you cross-eyed it.
Hey, listen.
I'm caught like. Well, you cross-eyed it. Hey, listen. I'm caught like a bilge right now.
If you're using the right way,
if you're using the right way and understanding his strengths
and what he does well and what he doesn't do too well,
it's easy to put him in position to succeed.
It's not hard.
Ocho, if we did that for every player,
if we just catered the offense to what Jerry Judy,
so what aboutland Sutton?
Wait, he was drafted in the...
Wait, drafted first round, right? 15th pick?
Yeah, that's what you do.
That's what you do.
So what about Courtland Sutton, who's a pro bowler?
So what do we run... So we got to run
courted offense to do what he does well.
Are you trying to win games?
Are you trying to win games or not?
Because you're doing it. The Broncos win. You're winning goddamn five. Are you trying to win games or not? Because you're doing it.
The Broncos win.
You're winning goddamn five.
Are you trying to win games or not?
So hold on.
How many games have they won since Jerry Judy been there?
How many games has he contributed to the winning?
Don't do that.
That's what I'm saying.
The whole point of trying to win is putting your pieces in position
to help you win.
If you're not doing that, then what?
So in other words, does Jerry Judy bear any culpability
in him not having the level of success
that we expected him to have at this point?
Yeah, of course.
Of course.
So what's that responsibility?
Jerry Judy go in to practice every day, right?
Yeah.
He study film every day, right?
Yes. He goes to work Wednesday, practice Thursday, right? You study film every day, right? Yes.
He goes to work Wednesday, practice Thursday, practice Fridays at walkthrough on Saturdays.
And he goes out there on Sundays wanting the results of the work that he's put in throughout the week to show up on Sunday, doesn't he?
Yes.
But it's not going, it's not going the way he'd like it to go.
What do you do from that point on?
What do you do from that point on what do you do from that point on look i think we've all had stretches where we've had stretches and things didn't quite go
our way yeah i just put my hard hat on and i just came to work every day bingo i mean there was a
stretch i mean you have to understand i was one of the i was the uh the highest rated uh receiver
below 1a i was like number three on the draft and my draft coming out i was
third rated receiver um and then i really didn't get a whole lot of reps i was mainly a special
team yes but i just say you know what i'm just gonna keep getting better i'm gonna keep a special
team is where i'm gonna make it so i bust my tail on that and then when it clicked and then when i
didn't have you know it's easy it's easy to point the finger and say the quarterback or the offensive coordinator.
Well, I'm going to make it so difficult.
You ain't got no choice but to call plays for me.
Right now, Jerry, Judy is making it very easy, Ocho,
for the coordinator and the head coach not to put him in position.
See, you made it difficult for them not to call your number,
for them not to call your name, regardless of down and distance,
regardless of area on the field, regardless of the score.
I've got, I'm going to make it so difficult.
Hey, 84, what you want?
85, what you want?
Coach, give me that square out.
Coach, give me that, give me that nine.
Coach, give me that bang, give me that bang eight.
Right.
At this point, that's what Jerry, he has to have the mindset so you know what damn it hey enough right forget all that because you can't you can't win because you only get an opportunity to speak
when they come to you i mean all these other guys i mean uh I mean, and me, now, I used to go
back and forth with them too, Ocho. I ain't gonna lie.
But I'm gonna, no,
I'm sorry, I used to go back and forth with them on Twitter.
But now, I
say what I say on a
particular platform, I'm done
with it. And that's how
you gotta get. You say what you say
and be done with it.
I'm not gonna go back and forth
with you because i know what i see right you ain't look a lot of time it used to be before we started
getting jobs like this ocho it was just journalists and the argument they would use you never played
the game you never ran around so when you critique him what is he going to say to Ocho? One of the greatest route runners in NFL history.
One of the guys that, okay, the greatest route runner in NFL history.
So what's his argument with you?
What's his debate with me?
My resume speaks for itself.
I'm not going to even tell you my resume.
But you can Google it.
So what's the argument now?
See, that's the problem.
You're running out of journalists to say they didn't play.
Now you've got two guys debating what you're doing, what you're not doing.
Right. That played and played at a high level at some point in time, even when we talk about it, it's only us.
Oh, you trying to bring a black man down. But when a white analyst criticize a white player,
they don't never say, oh, you trying to bring me down.
Bring you down how?
I'm not saying, oh, what about that gun you had in your car?
What about that marijuana?
Or what about this and that?
I don't say that.
I'm talking about your play on the field.
That's all I care about.
All that other stuff, I let TMZ, I let The Shade rule,
I let Ball Alert and Hollywood Unlocked,
I let them deal with that.
I'm specifically talking about play on the beat.
I think all Jerry has to do,
all he has to do to answer to the critics
and anybody that has anything to say
is when the opportunities present themselves,
you have to make the most of them.
If it's three, if it's four, if it's two, if it's one,
you got to, you got to have it. And he already got that mentality. Anyway, he already has that
mentality. Anyway, you just got to forget, ignore the noise, go and do what you do best. Cause
you've been doing it for years. You've been doing it for years and he's always been a winner.
It's the funny thing about it. He's always been winning. He's always been winning all his life.
All of a sudden now you're in a situation where it's not the same, where it's not the same.
You have to be that much more special at the position you're doing,
that much more clinical, technique sound, and polished
because of the way things are now
and just the landscape of how things are going.
You've got to be that much more perfect at the position you're playing.
But the thing is that that's what you have to realize.
You said something, and that's how I got the name Big Play Shay
is because I would take one play, and I's how I got the name Big Play Shay,
is because I would take one play, and I'm going to hit my head on the goalpost.
I knew I wasn't going to get those kind of opportunities because that's not the type of team that we had.
I wasn't going to get 15 targets.
I might get three.
Now, one, if you make a mistake, I'm going to hit my head on the goalpost.
You gone. You gone. Yeah.
Yeah, you gone.
And that's the mentality he has to have.
That's all.
The game tonight, what was your big takeaway?
What did you like?
What didn't you like?
For the Broncos, even though they lost, the defense, thank you.
The defense, thank you for coming to play.
Obviously, playing against the juggernaut that is the Chiefs,
they came to play ball tonight.
They came to play ball.
If they got any ounce of production from the offense outside of what they scored
toward the end of the game, as far as getting them in position to score,
it would have been much better.
Even with the ref trying to make it a game at the end of the game
with the fake roughing the passer, it was brilliant.
The defense played really well.
They came to play outside of what we saw from them
when they played the Dolphins.
It wasn't that.
It wasn't that.
I was really surprised by it.
Obviously, the Chiefs are doing what the Chiefs always do,
keeping it a close game against a divisional opponent.
And anytime you got Patrick Mahomes at the helm.
If you're the Broncos, Ocho, you got to win that game.
Do you realize?
Find a way to win it. find a way to win it find a way to win it that's only the fifth time in 51 home games regular season and playoffs
that my homes has been held below 20 points you held patrick my homes for the fifth time
in 51 home games regular season and playoffs you got to find a way to win.
Because you know he normally get to the high 20s, 30s at home.
You know that.
And you kept him.
Think about it.
You picked him in the end zone.
You made him kick two feet.
You turned him over on downs in the red zone.
And you made him kick field goals.
Yeah.
You got to somehow find a way to win that game and change the mindset.
It's not good enough.
Well, we played them.
We right there.
We played them close.
You've got to find a way to get that game in their building to change the entire mindset of the organization.
Yeah.
I think the interceptions, the interceptions hurt.
The fumble hurt.
Well, no, I think they got the fumble back.
But the interception hurt.
Russell tried to hit Judy.
One of those, I call it that. They caromed up and did, yeah, both of them.
I don't know if he was trying to go to Judy.
It looked like he was trying to go to the tight end.
Yeah.
But I don't understand.
Just go ahead and check the back because he's not looking for that.
He don't even see the middle linebacker because there's nothing to hold him.
He's just tracking Russ's eyes.
So he sees Russ's eyes goes to his left.
He goes to his right.
Yeah, it's unfortunate, man.
Right now, everything is magnified
for that Broncos team, offensively and
defensively, especially on the offense.
They're killing Russ.
I'm sure mentally, I think that can take a toll on you.
I'd have a fire sale I you think so? Yeah.
I think I think they're
going to try. They're going to they're going to move Judy.
They're probably going to move Sutton.
They're just like, you know what?
They can't move every goddamn body. Yeah.
They're going to get in. They're about to get
in the Caleb Williams week right now. The draft
was today. They'd be third. They'd be sitting
third, right?
Because the way I look at it, if the draft was today, they'd be third. They'd be sitting third. Right. Because the way I look
at it, Ocho,
where they going?
Where you going?
You can't
as a team and as a coach,
you can't fold
this early.
You lose your team. You can't lose your team.
You got to keep fighting.
And even if you are in the sweepstakes for Caleb Williams,
you have to still call the plays and game plans.
Yeah, game plans are a certain way where you want to win.
But you see letting Randy Gregory, you know,
trading Randy Gregory.
They're going to start and say, okay, let's go ahead and start.
Let's get some of these young guys some playing time.
Let's try to get some draft capital.
Because think about what they gave up to get Russ.
Yeah.
Bruh, you emptied the coffers.
And you gave up quality players to get him.
A Shelby Harris, a Noah Fant, three first-round picks.
Right.
So you gave up a lot to
get him, so now you've got to try to
get some of that capital back. Judy
could possibly fetch you a second-round pick.
Cortland Sutton might fetch you a third
or fourth-round pick. You've got to try to...
Look, and I...
It's rough when you're a veteran
player, because
hey, by the time the Broncos...
If I'm a veteran player, by the time the Broncos if i'm a veteran player by the time the broncos
get good hell i'm gonna be gone right right i'm gonna be retired or they're gonna be shipped me
on with the youth movement and it's hard because i've so i've been in that situation where you know
like okay what what do we do but fortunate for me i've always you know when you thought about it i
was like man i got john so dang ain't no rebuild going on as long as you got seven.
But I empathize for people that I've, from a distance I've watched.
And I'm like, bro, until he gets good,
I'm supposed to just take the L's until he gets good.
Or until y'all rebuild or get all the guys that you guys want.
It's tough.
But the Broncos, these are the games that the Broncos have lost
because they've been right there for whatever reason.
They played Kansas City tough as hell.
Every time.
And have yet to find a way to get one of these victories.
Listen, it's something about those divisional games.
I don't know what it is.
Something about the divisional games. I don't know what it is. Something about the divisional games, they always, they are always close.
Every so often, you know, you'll get a blowout.
But when you say fire sale,
I just want a little bit more clarification.
Does that fire sale also come with Russ having to move as well?
If somebody would take him off their hand,
you'd be like, yeah, yeah, they would ship Russ.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Because guess what?
I ain't got, look, you do realize Russ signed
like a quarter of a billion dollar deal
with like 160 to 170 of it guaranteed.
So I get that off my books.
So imagine the cap space I'm going to have.
Right.
Okay, now I get draft capital if I move one,
because you got,
you got a young receiver.
You got me.
You took me.
I think in the third or fourth round from Oklahoma.
So you got some young guys at Johnson.
You got some young guys that shown potential.
And another thing that's kind of hurt Judy is that Jew is kind of been Nick.
You know, he, his hamstring.
You remember he started to see the hamstring and I think he hurt his
shoulder or he's hurt his knee something last year.
So he's missed time and it's forced him not to be able to stay in a rhythm
because it's hard.
It's hard getting Nick during the season and coming back and finding a rhythm
and your rhythm.
And that's,
that's the funny thing about it is when you get in rhythm and you get that confidence going or you you touch that ball
and you start feeling it and you and the you and the quarterback build a rapport it's a beautiful
thing it's it's almost like art it's almost like art and they him and russ just haven't been able
to get on that page due to the injuries and stuff like that and it is unfortunate man it's very
unfortunate marvin mems uh uh was drafted in the second round.
Taylor Swift was in attendance.
But I did like how Amazon chose not to just put her up there
every time Kansas City did something,
just flash her up on the screen.
Look, I'm happy for the NFL.
Anybody that's going to bring eyes and positivity
to the National Football League, I'm all for it.
But, boy, they were getting carried away with this now.
Well, listen, every time Travis Kelsey catches the ball,
Taylor Swift, boom, she's on the camera.
And again, I understand what the NFL is doing
and people watching at home have to understand
what it also is about.
The bottom line, eyes generated creates revenue.
That's all it comes down to.
Nothing more, nothing less.
And it's smart.
It's a great PR move.
And what they're doing together as a couple,
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I know you heard this.
This was a trending topic.
Jada Pickett Smith speaks on her marriage with Will.
She said her and Will have been separated since 2016.
What?
She also said that Tupac was her soulmate, but they had no chemistry.
I don't know how that happened.
I don't know if you can be soulmates with no chemistry
because I think that's what makes you soulmate.
But we can let this, let me finish.
Yeah.
And so people are like, well, Shannon, why you comment?
She brought it to her.
She brought it to her.
Did you know that her and Will had been separated?
I didn't know that until you just told me.
Nobody knew until she's on a book tour.
So we got to understand.
And see, now, so guess what?
This man, basically your husband,
basically threw away a large part of his career.
Right.
Why?
Because everybody, that man, why?
They not even, they separated.
Wait, are you sure she said that?
If it's a lie, she told it.
Wait a minute.
Hold on.
Wait a minute.
Will Smith, wait.
Hold on.
That's so much to unpack right now.
And I ain't even got no suitcase.
She said they have been separated since 2016.
He did what he did in 2022.
So at that point in time, they had been separated for six years.
Boy, you got to be shitting me.
Wait a minute.
So he went up there and had that altercation with Chris Rock,
and they weren't even together?
Wasn't together.
She talking about, ain't no way we going to get a divorce.
I'm sorry, Jada. Y'all didn't have just hadn't signed the paperwork listen that is that is
a very very weird dynamic obviously people in hollywood already have a different way of doing
things they don't do things the traditional way they have they operate and marcia the drum
and but wait a minute and i heard the whole tupac was a soulmate, but they just had no chemistry. Boy, did you ever see a different world? Did you see a different world?
That episode with Jada Pinkett and Tupac was on there.
Well, they came. They chemistry was good. They chemistry was good.
But this is what I hate. This is what I hate, Ocho.
And this is why a lot of times. I don't you know, I've been approached several times over the last year about writing a book.
If I were to write a book, there are a lot of people that's gone, that's had a home going and they're not here to refute anything that I say.
Right.
I don't like that.
Also, he's not here to refute that he, you, he proposed to you.
That's what you're saying.
Oh, I proposed?
She said that when he was in Rikers,
well, actually, Rikers or Clinton Correctional.
I know at one point in time,
he probably started out at Rikers
and then went to Clinton Correctional.
Said he proposed to her.
Well, you know what happened when you're in jail now.
What?
You know, you do anything when you're in jail.
A lot of the people, a lot of the people,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
When you're in jail, you do anything.
Yeah, man, you say anything.
As soon as they get home.
Different story.
Different story.
So you know what?
There's some validity there.
You might be right.
He might just say anything to get up out of there.
I have a question.
Yes.
I'm not into it,
but from what I've learned and from what I've seen,
there have been many times that jada
has expressed her interest in in her love for tupac through letters if i'm not mistaken just
it jogged i remember because i'm right not really into gossip like that yes it's almost in a sense
it's almost embarrassing for will and yeah to her husband in a sense. She's embarrassed him at every turn. And she's
basically shown
she's, you know,
for lack of a better word, taking a dump
on him at every turn.
And in turn, yes!
Look, I think,
Ocho, all of us, all of us
of dating age, let's just say
somewhere between the ages of
18 and 75.
Right.
Unless you married your childhood sweetheart.
I think we've all had someone that we was very, very fond of.
Right.
But at every point and turn, you don't throw it up in the person's face at every turn.
Right.
That was my soulmate.
I miss this man.
And I'm talking publicly. I'm not going to let
you do that. I don't care. You're not going to continuously embarrass me by talking about
another man while you're in a relationship with me. With me. Well, that's the thing. You see what
you just said? The key words you just said while you're in a relationship with me. But if they've
been separated since 2016, maybe that's why she's doing the purposely. Maybe she's doing the purposely
to force him to divorce her.
Ocho, she been talking about this man
from the jump. Think
about it. Will Smith
felt some type
of way about Tupac.
He even said it, that
he felt some type of way because he
knew how his wife felt
about Tupac. Now, how the hell you feel some type of way about somebody knew how his wife felt about Tupac.
Now, how the hell you feel some type of way about somebody, but you don't got no chemistry?
Now, tell me that.
And I ain't talking about the class that we took in high school.
I'm talking about how can you say y'all had no chemistry, but every time your husband feels some type of way because of the way you spoke about it.
Thank you.
Now, you got me questioning. You got me questioning what I got going on.
Excuse me. You got some. You got. You. You got a questioning what I got going on.
Excuse me.
You got a secret. You got a secret.
You got a secret.
Is there anybody that's like, yo, Tupac?
Or it's just me?
Huh?
Who my Tupac?
Okay.
Oh, she said I'm her Tupac.
You're her Tupac?
Yeah.
She said I'm her Tupac.
But listen, listen.
Their dynamic is very weird.
It's not,
they operate at a completely different level.
You know,
people,
people,
people get that kind of money.
You get that kind of wealth and you get bored and you do things differently than everybody else.
So it's hard for everyone else to grasp and understand the dynamic that
they have.
And Hollywood is weird.
I don't know how long you've been in LA,
but Hollywood,
Hollywood is different.
Yeah.
You know that. Yeah, it is. Oh, Joe, what did I tell you? I said, Ocho, I do all I do in private. You go on vacation
in private, you date in private, you have your finances, you do that in private. Because you
know what I found out, Ocho? People will ruin beautiful things. If I tell you, I said, Ocho,
I just saw the biggest lion in Africa.
If I tell somebody,
somebody's going to go
and try to kill him
to have his hand.
If I say I saw the biggest,
I saw the biggest elephant
in Tanzania or Kenya
or excuse me, Zimbabwe.
They're going to try to do something.
If I tell you something,
somebody's going to go,
people ruin beautiful things.
And that's why you don't talk about this.
You don't talk about that because y'all are ruining it because y'all don't like to see people happy because you're not happy.
You like, hell, I don't want to be the only one that's miserable.
Misery loves company.
So you try to mess up something that you don't know anything.
You don't even know that person.
Right.
But you don't want them to be happy because you mad or you sad or you miserable. I like that. I like that. That's good. I like, I like the points
you made there, but I think that might be a problem where comes into play where it's, I'm
trying to find you a woman, right? I'm trying to find you a significant other. Do you think women
love to be loved out loud? Do you think women would agree, especially in this day and age,
or someone that you would meet of quality that can turn your house into out loud? Do you think women would agree, especially in this day and age, of someone that you would meet of
quality that can turn your house into
a home? Do you think they would enjoy being
everything private?
It's more like you hide her.
Think about it. Before social media,
wasn't nobody say take no pictures?
Wasn't nobody trying to take no pictures?
We was together. We know we together.
Are we together for us or are we together
for everybody else to see?
Go ahead and talk.
What are you doing? What are you doing this for?
Are you trying to say, yeah, y'all didn't think I could get nobody.
Y'all didn't think I could get nobody on Shannon Sharpe's level.
Or you didn't think Shannon Sharpe could have anybody because he did this X, Y, and Z.
Why do you want it to be public? Who are you trying to impress?
I want y'all to know we together. Sherelle know y'all together.
Nobody else matters.
Right. That's, that's a good point. That's a good point.
And I think maybe for the young, I think maybe for the younger generation,
the display of affection, the show of love, the PDA,
and loving me out loud and doing
those things and being able to display those affections over social media is, um, at times
warranted. I think that's something that some people enjoy and like, I guess, I don't know.
I don't know. To each, to, to, to each his own, whatever. I mean, whatever makes, but like I said,
you can't say something out loud.
You can't show us because people are going to comment.
Right.
Man, that's the.
She made it public.
Right.
I didn't know they weren't.
I didn't know they were.
They were separated since 2016.
She said that.
She keeps speaking about Tupac.
So if she don't care about Will Smith.
At some point in time, I had to.
And I still I still his movies. I bought so many of his records.
One of the greatest ever. That's her disrespecting him.
That's not I don't have anything to do with me because I commented on it.
Right. She is doing this. Do you think, again,
do you think her angle
is to purposely drive him away
and get him to divorce her?
I'm just asking.
Well, at this point in time,
he knows about the entanglement
that she had with her son's friend.
She knows an entanglement.
In other words,
she was having an affair
with her son's friend.
No!
Yeah. Oh, what you talking about?
You know, that's the term they use.
Entanglement.
That's what you show?
Okay.
Yeah, that's what they called it.
That is what we called it. We called it something else.
Oh, no.
Well, maybe
there was an agreement because now we talk about hollywood now you know
hollywood move a little different now so you might might have been in agreement hey to each of to
each his own i ain't got no problem with it whatever whatever in your bowels whatever within
your bowels rock with it that ain't got nothing to do with me but all i'm saying is that she's
okay we know about the entanglement because
she mentioned it. We know about the
infatuation or the love with
Tupac. She mentions it.
Well, if she's
mentioning this out loud,
how many times has she said it in private
to him?
Well, maybe they have an understanding. Maybe they have an
understanding to keep the train
rolling and whatever it is that he's trying to do yeah to each of that yeah oh joe uh-huh
norm norm is what the large majority of the population does right right what's normal to you
right might not be normal to me yeah it was normal to me might be not normal to my producer so what is what is
normal how do we define it because i'm sure a lot of you know a lot of things that i do
eating the same things over and over going to bed at the same time getting up at the same time do is not normal to people right so i don't know maybe that is normal
see maybe what they do like you said maybe sharing or the entanglement or the infatuation with other
people maybe that's their normal right because what i do because what's normal to you might not
be normal to me yeah now the funny thing about it you could you could line up 100. You could line up 100 people and ask 100 people the same question on what they consider normal.
And every answer will be different because everybody views on tradition and the social construct and what on the way we're supposed to abide by or just life in general or partners or whatever it may be.
Everybody's difference.
Everybody.
Especially behind closed doors doors yeah
because in public we all might act normal but when we get home behind those closed doors
it's a different ball game yeah yeah yeah yeah see what you know i just you might walk around
your house butt ball that's normal to you. Oh, no, I'm shy.
I'm shy.
I can't be doing that.
I'm not walking.
I bring my clothes in the shower.
I ain't walking nowhere butt bald.
I don't walk around my house barefoot.
A lot of people go outside barefooted.
They walk their house.
I ain't walking nowhere with my bare feet.
I walk to the bathroom and back to my bed.
But as far as like go downstairs and come to the kitchen to get stuff,
I ain't walking without shoes on my feet.
I ain't walking nowhere.
Listen, you know what the hard part is about this?
What?
The hard part is about it is you having your core values on what you believe in
and finding somebody that you like that aligns with everything that you rocking with.
That's the hard part.
Yeah, it's hard because I'm
old school. See, like going to the
bathroom in front
of a woman, I don't do that.
I don't pass gas. No, hell no.
Oh, Shannon, no.
That's the number one. Listen, let me tell you
what my grandma told me, now.
Baby, the minute
she can use the bathroom and leave the door open,
that's the one. She can't do that. That ain't gonna work for leave the door open, that's the one.
She can't do that. That ain't gonna work for me.
That ain't the one.
I knew she was the one. When she fought
in the front of me, oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
I broke up with a girl for doing that.
Man, stop playing. You left a girl for that?
I swear for God and two white men, I did.
Oh, boy, you a tough crowd, boy.
You a tough crowd, boy.
You a tough crowd. Come on, man.
The bathroom right there. Five steps.
You mean to tell me you got...
No, no, I don't do that, Ocho.
I can't do that. No, you can't do that.
She got to get up and go out the room just to pass gas?
Don't do that. That's disrespectful, man. Stop playing.
Oh, you tripping. You tripping.
Baby, let that shit out. And listen, I graded.
I graded, too. When she let one out, okay, that was by the
foe right there. That was by the foe.
That was a good one. Wait, so she gotta, when she
use the bathroom, she gotta close the door, too?
She, she
goes to a different area of the house.
Don't nobody go to the, don't nobody go to the
bathroom. If, if, if we're
both home, nobody goes to the
bathroom in the master bathroom. bathroom. If, if, if we're both home, nobody goes to the bathroom in the bed,
the master bathroom.
Nobody.
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Yeah.
She's like, oh, okay.
I'll go get it.
And that was my opportunity.
To use the bathroom?
Yep.
We got to get you therapy, baby.
We got to get you therapy.
You can't do that.
You can't live like that, baby.
I love you.
I love you to death, man.
We got to sit down.
We got to talk about that.
A woman got to go to a separate part of the house just to use the bathroom?
Number two?
Yeah.
You and I, yeah.
Nah, man.
You tripping.
Listen, do you understand?
Let me tell you something.
And close the door.
If you go and pee, close the door.
I don't want to hear it.
Let me tell you something.
Me and my baby, we have our own personal red table talks.
I'm not talking about the ones like Jada.
The best talks we have, the best conversations. I ain't even trying to be funny and i i can i can
i'm comfortable with mine you feel me if you got to use the bathroom man leave the door open because
that's the perfect time oh no no no i'm not gonna be in there with you but that's the perfect time
to create a conversation to have a little dialogue on important stuff man you tripping man i don't i
don't listen i don't do no, I don't do no talking.
I don't do no talking.
I ain't in there to talk.
Oh, man.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
Hey, look.
You know at the team facility, they got the stars next to each other.
I ain't talking.
Don't talk to me.
You can't live like that, man.
I can't live like that.
Nah, you can't.
Nah, that's barbaric, man. You can't do that, man. I can't live like that. Nah, you can't. Nah, that's barbaric, man.
You can't do that, man.
We got the ball.
We're going to work on that later.
We're going to work on that.
Oh, Joe.
YouTube was asking the question.
It's like, where do you get your news from?
They said, you get your news from AOL.
Say it in dialogue.
Oh, Joe. and almost almost spit out my water man hey come on but i hey but i commend you and sherelle having
that type of relationship but that's not the type of relationship for me. That's what you need.
That's love, man.
That's that real, genuine, I'm not hiding.
Like, ooh.
Hide.
And that's, man.
Yeah, yeah.
You can't live like that, man.
Listen, I'm almost about to cry for you, man.
You can't do that, man.
Oh, Joe.
That's too much.
You can't live like that, man. No, no, no. I don't go buy the crap for you, man. You can't do that, man. That's too much. You can't live like that, man.
No, no, no.
I don't go to the bathroom.
I'm talking about at 2 o'clock, 3 o'clock in the morning.
For some reason, my stomach, I'm going to go downstairs.
That ain't healthy, baby.
I'm telling you, as a friend of many years, as a friend of yours, that ain't healthy.
And I don't walk around naked, man. You know what?
I don't walk around naked
in front of women.
What?
Mm-mm.
Ocho, you have to understand.
Is that trauma?
Is that trauma from your childhood?
That something happened?
Yeah.
Well, I grew up in a house full of women.
And so it was me and my brother,
my grandmother,
my sister,
and my aunts.
And so once we got a certain age, my grandma said, boy, you know, we couldn't walk around bare chested.
We couldn't walk around with just, just shorts or anything on. So that's just, and from that point
on. Okay. Okay. And I've, I've been stuck with you. Okay. I got you. I got you. Now I understand. Now I got it. I got it. And so now I just can't.
I can't.
It just feel like her eyes are piercing me.
And so I just can't.
So I got one more thing.
One more thing.
So if you have a woman, right?
Yeah. And y'all together, y'all together. So if you have a woman, right? Yeah.
And y'all together, y'all together.
So like me and the missus, we like to go to the nude beach.
You feel me?
And just walk through the nude beach.
You want to do that?
I don't walk around naked in front of nobody in my own home.
You think I'm going to go walk in front of 500 people?
Man, you got to try that one time.
We got to break you out of that.
Like, when things that
bother you, you have to go out there and do it
with intent to get over it.
You got to get over that.
No.
Not only am I going
to find you a woman, I'm going to find you a woman,
I'm going to send you all on a date to a nudist colony.
I got to get you together, man.
You will enjoy that. You will enjoy that.
You'll enjoy that.
Trust me.
No, I'm good, Ocho.
You know what?
Tyreek Hill says Chase Claypool is like a vending machine out there.
What does that even mean?
Oh, he looks like a vending machine.
Listen, what Tyreek Hill and him have as a receiver squad is a bunch of short dudes
that are small and basically a four by one team that can compete with anybody in the world
outside of canada usa and jamaica and that's what they got small you know you know what's it you
know you know what's in vending machines right you got choices right you know, you got chips, you got candy, you got soda, you got different things.
Right.
I mean, Chase.
Now I'm thinking he talking about the size.
Chase Claypool, like, 6'4", 230, just, you know,
I think that's what he meant.
But do you hear what Chase Claypool said?
He said, when I lost my starting job it played
with me mentally i told you i told see ocho see you don't want to admit the fact i told you that
i say he was when when they pulled him to the side right and and dj more say chase know we need
better effort what did i try to tell you ocho right a two things gonna happen when you when
you when you when you have people tell you stuff like that.
When you get criticism, whether it's
in the locker room or whether it's at home.
You get criticism from your girlfriend or from your
wife. When you get it from your teachers or
from your counselor or from your therapist.
You're either going to fold or you're going to show up
to the party. You got two types
of people in this world. Either you're going to fold
or you're going to show up to the party.
Maybe getting out of Chicago
is a great thing because now he had the chance
at a fresh start. What about Pittsburgh? Getting out of Pittsburgh
was a great thing too? Come on. Why are we doing that?
Let's stay in the present.
Let's stay in the present.
Since you love vending machines,
have you ever gone to a vending machine, put your
money in, and you don't get what the hell you paid
for? Is he that type of vending machine?
Because they pay him a lot of money and he ain't been what the hell you paid for. If he that type of vending machine, because they paid him a lot of money
and he ain't been giving him what he owed him.
Sometimes when you order something from the
vending machine and it gets stuck, you know what you got to do to it?
You got to shake it a little bit.
Shake it out of it. You got to shake it out of it.
You got to shake it out of it. And that's
what coming to the Dolphins is. Coming to the Dolphins,
that's the shake.
They shaking it, man. He going to
give you what you want. He in the right place.
I don't know if you know this,
but they got a disclaimer on
vending machines. Do not tilt over.
Could have this. Could cause
danger. Could cause death.
That's why. Have you seen any
vending machines? Go look at the vending machines.
About rocking them. Right.
He gonna be alright. Think about it.
I may or may not have rocked a few in my time. And they dropped some chips. Right. He's going to be alright. Think about it. I may or may not have
rocked a few in my time.
And they dropped some chips. Yeah.
One of the best things that happen
with women is when
they dating somebody
and it's a toxic relationship
in the best times of their life
and when they find somebody new.
Some of the best times in their life.
Nah, nah, hell, you don't want to just risk it
if she got in a toxic relationship
because if she hurt, she going to hurt.
You know, she bleeding.
She going to bleed on you.
Oh, he done healed up.
He done healed up.
He done healed up.
Yeah, you know, when you get to Miami,
when you get to Miami,
you land at Miami International Airport
or you heal up quick with that weather.
You heal up real quick.
All you got to do,
get you some dinner at Tussie's.
Oh, you going to be all right?
I just need to chase that
money. I mean, because
Pittsburgh put money in there, Chicago
put money in there, and they ain't getting nothing dropped.
Listen,
the chips was stuck in the vending machine.
But listen, over there in Miami, you know what we do in Miami?
Oh, we going to shake.
Y'all going to shake it out of them? Yeah, we going to shake it and get
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DK Metcalf
predicts rookie Devon Witherspoon
is going to get the better
of your boy, Jamar Chase.
They call him Spoon.
They say he's scooping
receivers up. They say he's aing receivers up. They say he's a
tablespoon, too.
You know that big spoon you mama and your grandma had
that was on the back of the couch? That old big old
wooden spoon. That's what they call it.
Yeah, they call it wooden spoon.
Not today. Listen, Jamal Chase
has the moniker of 7-Eleven for
a reason. He had a game where they
didn't get in the ball enough, and they lost that game.
Then he came back. He came back game where they didn't get in the ball enough and they lost that game. And he came back.
He came back and showed him and said,
listen, I'm open. I'm always fucking
open. 15 for 181.
15 for 181 and three TDs.
Nigga, ain't nobody
stopping that. Not even, man, listen.
Ain't no witherspoon,
tablespoon, teaspoon.
We do know
Jamar Chase saw it
because he retweeted
DK's tweet.
Yeah.
Did, did, did,
do you think that provided
bulletin board material?
Listen, that is
bulletin board material.
Why, why would you,
why, why would you want to,
why would you want to entice?
Why would you do it?
Why would you do it?
What were you sending?
What were you sending DBs?
Like, depending on the endorsements
of the sponsors at the time,
I would send them to the DBs
as that was more sportsmanship
and a challenge to you.
You already know what time it is.
Okay, that's what Spoon said.
That's a challenge to me.
I'm not sure.
No, Spoon didn't say it.
DK said it.
Now Spoon got to deal
with the ramifications
of the bullshit DK said.
Now he got to deal with Chase.
Then Spoon got to cash.
Exactly. And the funny thing,
that bitch finna bounce.
Oh, that check gonna bounce.
And this is the thing.
Devin Witherspoon is really good. Very good.
Oh, he like that for real. Yeah, he's very good.
And what we're not talking about is
Tariq Willen on the other side is very
good as well.
Both can run, but you know what the'm saying? They both got to run.
But you know what the Seahawks going to do?
They not doubling.
Or they finna play man.
No, no, they play straight man.
Oh, yeah, they finna be right in your face.
P. Blake, Lee K, cover one, Lurk.
Cover three, Lurk.
That's what he is.
He's a cover one, yeah.
And that's the scary thing.
That's the scary thing.
Because 7-11, he's always open.
If you're coming off a 15 for 181 and three touchdown performance,
boy, the juices is already flowing.
So you know he's going to be nothing.
He had 190-something, didn't he?
181.
15, 181, and two TDs.
Or is it 191?
I think he had 190-something.
Okay, okay.
Either way, it's going to be gumbo, sir.
It's going to be gumbo.
It's going to be straight gumbo.
Louisiana-style gumbo.
That man said he's going out there
and he's getting one of them old chili cheese dogs.
That's what he's coming out of Cincinnati to get.
They say they do them things up there big in Cincinnati.
That's what I heard.
I don't know.
I never had one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wait, we eat food.
Spoon said he already ordered a couple of them.
He did?
Yeah, he said he ordered a couple of them.
Seahawk.
You know what Seahawk tastes like?
Do you know what Seahawk tastes like? Seahawk tastes like chicken. You ain't never had no Seahawk tastes like? Do you know what Seahawk tastes like?
Seahawk tastes like chicken.
You ain't never had no Seahawk before?
No.
Oh, yeah.
You remember we was in the same division as Seattle before they realigned.
So we played them twice a year.
Yeah.
They going to get realigned, all right?
They going to get realigned at Paycourt Stadium.
They going to get realigned at Paycourt Stadium on Sunday.
We played when it was in the old kingdom. That place used to get realigned at Paycourt Stadium on Sunday. We played when it was
in the old kingdom.
That place used to get loud
and you could start rocking.
Who was the receivers there
for the Seahawks
when you played?
Brian Blades.
Yo!
Brian Blades.
Hurricanes.
Hurricanes, Blades.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They had Joy Galloway.
Oh, my goodness.
That's who I,
off the top of my head.
Y'all stopped Galloway? Y'all stopped him? Galloway could run. Oh, my goodness. That's who I, off the top of my head. Y'all stop Galloway?
Y'all stop them?
Galloway could run.
Oh, yeah.
He could run.
Oh, yeah.
Man, that pigeon-toed rascal.
I mean, when I first saw him,
I ain't know where to shake his hand or throw bird seed.
He could throw pigeon-toed.
I said, good Lord, a bird seed.
But he could flat out.
Yeah, he could go.
Let me ask you this.
Other than my guy, CC Chris, I'm sorry, bro.
Chris Carter is the only receiver that couldn't run 4-3 at Ohio State.
Name another receiver that came from Ohio State that couldn't run 4-3.
All of them.
Wait, what about –
All of them guys, Olave, Wilson.
Michael Thomas was 4-3?
Oh, no.
Michael Thomas walking.
Yeah. Michael Thomas was 4'3"? Oh, no. Michael Thomas walking.
Yeah.
Michael Thomas is CC.
But you know what the Ohio State receivers?
Man, they can go, boy.
They can run.
They can run. Every last one up.
Every last one up.
If they got 10, they done run 4'3", and they got a 4'5".
I think CC might have ran 4'5".
But CC had the best hands out of all of them.
Yeah, he did.
I'm sure.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute, now. Michael Thomas don't drop nothing either, now. Don't do that. No, not CC. CC. But CeCe had the best hands out of all of them. Wait a minute. Wait a minute now.
Michael Thomas don't drop nothing either now.
Don't do that. But you have to understand.
CeCe, the glove, the technology.
Right, right, right. Can you imagine
if CeCe... It's different.
I'll tell you another guy that had hands
with no technology.
Brandon Lloyd.
Brandon Lloyd!
Man, Brandon was crazy.
When he was with Denver, when he was with the 49ers?
Denver 49ers.
Man, some of the craziest highlights I ever seen.
Craziest highlights I ever seen.
Brandon was nice, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, Brandon was nice.
Celebrity Jeffrey is airing tonight what game do you think
you could get the bag on
get the bag
oh Price is
Price is right
Price is right
I know
I know
I know the price of everything
and listen
you know how I am
I'm financially costed
and very conscious
when it comes to shopping
Price is right
I know the price of everything
you know I knew
how much them goddamn batteries
was for that smoke detector
when I stole that battery
from the hotel.
But here's the thing.
What's working against you?
They're basing on the prices
in California.
You don't know the prices
in California.
So you got to do
15-20% markup on everything.
15-20%?
Hell yeah.
You know what?
Why are you even out there?
Why are you even living out there?
My job out here.
Me, I'm Jeopardy. Price is right.
I've already been on Celebrity Jeopardy
and won. So I already know what I can do.
Yeah, I won. They gave you the answers, though.
They ain't give me no answers. They gave you the answers.
You had the script.
You had the script. I like
Jeopardy, but Price is Right, that's right up my alley. Price is Right is right up my alley. Listen, I use coup script. I had the script. You had the script. I like Jeopardy, but Price is Right,
that's right up my alley.
Price is Right is right up my alley.
Listen, I use coupons.
I use apps.
So I really know the price of everything.
And the fact that it is in LA
and having to mark something up 15 to 20%,
it'd be easy for me.
Right.
People are freaking out about Kris Jenner
getting Tristan Thompson the job at ESPN.
Why are they surprised?
Do they realize what Kris Jenner was able to do?
Her daughter has something that would have doomed everybody else's career.
And she turned into a billionaire.
And she took her youngest daughter and turned her into a billionaire. And she took her other daughters and made them more and more famous and more wealthy than they could have ever dreamed of.
Do they not know?
I don't think people know.
I don't think people understand.
I don't think people understand the chess move or the mastermind of the empire that Kris Jenner has built with her daughters, with her family.
that Kris Jenner has built with her daughters,
with her family.
Yes!
I'm not sure if anything
of that magnitude
has ever, ever, ever been done before.
But Kris Jenner could have opened up...
What's the word I'm looking for?
Where she could represent people.
Oh, you're talking about an agency.
An agency.
She could open up an agency, man,
and represented people
and found ways to navigate and get them to a plateau they've never even thought of before because she thinks different.
She thinks long term.
She doesn't think short term.
And the way she was able to navigate through everything and understand and be strategic.
Everything is strategic that they do.
Everything.
Everything is a chess move
and there's a purpose
and plan behind everything.
I love what she was able to do.
You know what?
You're right.
She could have,
but she said,
I'm going to devote all my attention
to my family.
Right.
This is how you know that's a special woman.
Given Tristan has two children from her daughter, Chloe,
and we know about some of the indiscretions that he's done while he was with Chloe.
And for that woman to say, I know that the pain and the hurt that you caused my daughter, but I care so much about my daughter, the father of my daughter's kids.
I put all that ish to the side.
Let's go get this paper.
Everybody couldn't do that.
I have a question.
Is she really the sole reason why he got a job at ESPN or is it the fact that he's a former basketball player
with knowledge
so he can be a part of ESPN
and contribute to what they do
when it comes to basketball
there's a lot of basketball players
with knowledge that can contribute
yeah but is that something
that they want to do
actually everybody doesn't want
to be an analyst or a commentator
at ESPN
look
let's not de-minimize her
she's a power broker
no no no
she's a moving shaker No, no, no.
She's a moving shaker.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know.
I know.
She's extremely powerful.
I was just saying.
Yeah.
She made the call to ABC and Disney.
She picked up the phone.
She's one of these people, like, I don't know how well you know the agencies,
but a WME who reps me, a CAA, a UTA,
when they pick up the phone and call because here's the thing they're
not calling the agency back they're calling who the agency represents back so if the agency
represents a tom cruise you don't think somebody gonna pick up that phone and answer or denzel
washington or rock but i think rock is under rock has a little bit of his own thing. But hey, Kris Jenner is a power broker out here.
Yeah.
When she call, you answer.
You answer.
Because she make money.
What'd you say?
It's dollars and cents?
If it make dollars, it make cents?
Yeah, and she knows how to do that.
Can you imagine?
Maybe we should talk to her about representing us.
What do you think?
No, I'm good with my people.
Okay, okay.
Hey, once upon a time, I'll be, hey.
Yeah.
Once upon a time, I mean, you could do that.
Well, I'm good, too.
I'm good, too.
If you're good, I'm good.
Yeah, look, man, bro.
Loyalty is big to me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, Marvin and my team that I have now, Yeah, look, man, bro. Loyalty is big to me. Yeah. Yeah.
You know, Marvin and my team that I have now.
Yeah.
I got, you know.
Listen, I'm happy with my team.
Doug, Ryan, I love y'all.
I appreciate you.
I would just, you know, just, you know.
My creative team, the guys that are around me.
Yeah.
Hey, everybody that's in place now.
Right.
You're locked in.
Ain't nobody.
Yeah, I need, I need, I need, I'm trying to create me a big,
I want a big team like you.
I want a big team like you.
I ain't got no big team.
No, I don't have a big team.
Ain't no unnecessary expense.
I'm not one of these, oh, I got 12 employees.
You just to say I got 12 employees.
Hell no. I like what you just said. That's how, I like not one of these. Oh, I got 12 employees. Just to say I got 12 employees. Hell no.
I like what you just said. That's I like what you just said. No unnecessary expenses.
That's everything. Everything is a purpose. Ash has a responsibility. CJ has a responsibility.
Jordan has a responsibility. Shelly, who's my executive assistant. She has a responsibility.
responsibility. Shelly, who's my executive assistant, she has
a responsibility. Marvin does what
he does. WME does what they do.
Jamie does what he does.
Jamie always... Hey, everybody
has a role to play. Everybody has
a lane. I like that. Hey, baby.
Baby.
Yeah, she done fell asleep on
me, so she fired. She fired.
I was going to make her my
executive assistant. Yeah, so she fired. She fired. I was going to make her my executive assistant.
Yeah, but she's
asleep. Baby.
Baby.
No, I mean, look.
That's too much. I mean, if she got a full-time
job, that's too much. Right.
Shelly's full-time job is me.
That's her full-time job is me.
Well, technically, it kind of makes sense
because if we're already together, so technically you're already the job. I'm full-time anyway is me. Well, technically, it kind of makes sense because if we're already together,
so technically, you're already the job,
I'm full-time anyway,
so it just makes sense
where you could be my assistant.
When she's showing a house
where she's doing something,
she can't stop and take a call.
Oh, that's the boss woman, though.
That's the boss woman,
so she don't have to show the house.
You have people that work for you
that do that.
She run the show, so...
Oh, she running the show?
Yeah, she running the show. Yeah, she run the show.
See, I don't have email.
So every call is filtered through Shelly.
Okay.
So all the emails, if you will send something, you send it to Shelly.
Shelly decipher it.
Shelly says, okay, Shannon, this is what came in today.
Shannon, here's your schedule.
You got this at noon.
You got this at three.
Remember, you got this.
Okay, you got a conference call with Ash
and the volume at this time.
Jordan is coming over to shoot content today.
Everything runs on a system.
See, I like that.
And that's exactly what it is right now.
I like that.
I just never gave her a title,
but now you just threw out the big words
and I like the way the words sound.
So I want to, baby.
Hello?
Man, she fired. She got one thing up in there
saying, leave me alone. I ain't going to tell you
the finger that she got up in there, but I can...
Oh, the one from church?
Oh, that quiet, like you coming in late
like they can't see you? When you're coming in late,
you got to walk out for a minute.
But yeah,
I got the best assistant in the world.
Right, right. Okay. I mean, I'm going to wake up, I got the best assistant in the world. Right. Right. Okay.
I mean, I'm going to wake up. I set the alarm. She's going to call.
Just making sure you're up.
Right.
The driver's picking me up. Just making sure you're in the car.
Hey, I'm making sure you arrive. I've talked to Ash.
I've sent Ash knows that blah, blah, blah. Okay. I've talked to Jordan.
I've talked to the people at La Portia. I've talked, I've handled all of this.
So when I,
I don't work,
I don't stress about anything because she's going to handle it.
Okay.
Ash.
Okay.
When they,
they call about,
Hey,
Ash speaks on my behalf because she knows me so well.
Now she's going to call and say,
what do you think about that?
She said,
that's exactly what I said.
Right.
That's exactly what I said.
Okay.
Okay.
So she won't, she won't, she won't be able to make any answers on your behalf.
She makes, she can answer stuff on your behalf.
Oh yeah.
But she's still going, she's still going to run it by me.
Oh, okay.
She's still going to run it by me.
Right.
Oh, everything, everything can run by me now.
Ain't nothing, ain't nothing moving.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
There are a lot of, there are a lot of moving parts.
I'm stationary.
And there's a lot of moving parts around me.
Right.
I like that.
I like that.
Baby.
Baby.
Hey, so what do you see the Shador?
You know, everybody.
Shador started it by putting up his wrist.
And then you saw Rick Ross do it.
You see DJ Khaled do it.
Reese Hall did it.
Garrett Wilson, Devontae Adams, Chet Holmgren.
Bro, he said, hey, he said he can't keep doing it for free.
So he waiting on him to get to the biggest thing.
Right, right, right, right.
I like it.
I like it too. I like it. Every time something different always comes around and it catches
on. At one point it was a gritty.
At one point it was a gritty. You know, everybody was doing a gritty.
Right. I like what
he's doing. The fact that not
only is he doing it, but he's playing well
behind it. So it's okay. It's validating what he's doing. The fact that not only is he doing it, but he's playing well behind it.
So it's okay.
It's validating what he's doing.
Obviously, some people are going to be upset about it.
Some people are always going to find something wrong
with everything, no matter what.
But as long as he continues to play the way he's playing,
I like it.
I love it.
If you don't want him to do it,
when T.O. was doing all his dances and his stuff in the end zone, I said, if you don't want T to do it, when people, when T.O. was doing all his dances
and his stuff in the end zone
and you catch a passer,
I said,
if you don't want T.O. to dance,
keep my dance on.
Stop him.
Simple.
Simple.
So you don't want somebody to do something,
hey,
man,
you doing all this talking,
stop me from talking.
If you beat me,
I won't talk.
Talk.
You win,
hey,
you got me.
But when I see you next time
I got something for you
oh yeah
oh yeah
they will always have
a problem with everything
anything that is
not traditional
or doesn't conform
to the way they think
he bragging about money
he bragging about money
wait
money?
bragging about money?
you mean the same institutions
that rake in billions
every year?
child please not us we supposed to see we gotta be humble we gotta Racking about money? You mean the same institutions that rake in billions every year? Mm-hmm. Child, please.
Not us.
We supposed to...
See, we got to be humble.
We got...
We're not supposed to...
Remember, Jack Johnson got in trouble
because he flashed his opulence.
He had the big fancy car,
the big convertible.
He wore the big fur coats
and the big hat.
Yeah.
He had the nice jewelry.
Had one of them things
of the opposite race
up on his arm.
That really pissed him off. That pissed him off? I mean, it really... You know, they didn't like the nice jewelry. Had one of them things of the opposite race up on his arm. That really pissed the ball.
That pissed the ball?
I mean, it really, you know,
they didn't like the convertible.
They didn't like the mint coat.
But when he got, you know,
something they wanted,
like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
don't do that.
Hold on, brother.
Hold on, brother.
Yeah.
You speed.
Listen, I, I, I,
everybody wants you to be humble.
They want you to be humble.
They want you to be quiet. They want you to be quiet.
Don't dim your light.
Man, Jesus was walking around
with 12 disciples.
That's what I try to see.
That's what I try to tell you.
Don't be humble.
Enjoy it.
That's what I try to tell you.
Scream it from the mountaintop.
When he give you them blessings
and you work hard for what you do,
enjoy the fruits of your labor.
What did God bless you with?
The ability to run
and to catch
and hand eye coordination.
Right.
And you've made millions
and you want to drive
a smart car
because you don't want
people to think
you thumbing your nose
at your success
in their face.
Did you hear what I just said?
God blessed me with
a talent,
a talent that I worked on
and sharpened
to get to a point
where I did my entertainment
and flamboyancy on the field.
I don't need to do it off.
I don't need to do it off.
Stay with me now.
I don't,
I didn't need to do it off.
So when you,
when you,
let me ask you a question.
When you get that private jet and you load up your kids and you load up
mama or,
okay,
let's just say,
yeah.
And you go spend $50,000 a night.
What's that?
I,
wait a minute. Timeout. Timeout. Let's come back a little bit. $ fifty thousand dollars a night what's that i what wait a minute time out
time out let's come back a little bit fifty thousand dollars a night that was that was that
was for a birthday that was a birthday that was that was for a memory that was a memory the reasons
are unimportant so do you think fifty thousand dollars know what it was used for so if i use
fifty thousand dollars to buy a house or i use $50,000 to buy a watch, $50,000 is
gone. What I used it for
is unimportant. It was used.
So you buying it, so, oh,
I did that for a birthday, a very
special occasion. It's still $50,000
a night that was out the window, right?
Yeah.
The window opened right back up, though.
Oh, but you just said the other day, you can't
think about that. It don't work like that,
that I'm going to get the bag back.
That's what you told me, Ocho.
I'm going to get the bag back.
Hey, that PJ coming too.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, Ross said anytime I need it, man, just hit him.
That's what that,
the importance of having rich friends is just,
I'm thankful and I'm grateful for people like that.
For people like that, that at the height of their success and are willing to help the small folk like me, man.
Ross, I know you're going to see this.
Ross, I love you.
I appreciate you.
We've been rocking about 20 years, man.
You got to stop being so cheap.
Who?
You.
They say you squeeze a dollar so tight that Eagle be screaming on it.
Every time.
Every time.
That's the reason I done had money 30 years.
And I'm going to stay like that.
It's going to stay like that.
It's all about balance.
It's all about balance.
I can't wait to see that old Brinks truck and that U-Haul parked at the cemetery.
At the who?
Oh, that's right.
They don't take them there.
No, they don't.
Oh, okay.
My kids are going to have it.
Are they going to be all right?
Hey, but,
I don't know if you know about that,
but guess what?
What happened?
Steve and they got the flu
and they asked me
could I fill in for it.
Whoa, whoa.
Yeah, yeah.
You remember life
with red clothes
and red ass clothes and why you
going all dressed up? He say, Mr.
Wilkins driver got the blue
and they asked me to fill in for him.
Well, let me ask you something.
You filling them for him. Did you
ask about your boy?
You see what I'm saying?
I just got it. I'm on
the job one day.
I'm on the job one day. I'm on the job one day.
Man, you done been on the job two months.
This is my first time being lead dog, Ocho.
But if you lead dog, then you had me right behind you.
But I had the best.
Ocho, Ocho, let me get in the house a little while,
and they don't going to realize that I've been taking scraps.
You know, I've been giving to you out the back.
Listen.
Don't.
Man, listen.
I got to get it good.
Listen, I'm telling you.
Let me tell you something.
The people over there, people over there knew what they were doing
that first take.
Now, I'm talking about me and you, one, two, punch.
That's special.
That's something special.
The people need that.
The people need that. The people need that.
What's the one thing the guys don't all first take what they do?
Debate.
They harsh critique players.
Yeah, I can critique too.
That's not what you're saying.
I can debate with the best of them.
Everything is not meant to be a debate.
Sometimes it's about a discussion and having an open and honest conversation
about how somebody played.
I can do that.
Are you willing to do that?
I'm willing to do that.
Whatever you want me to do, boss.
Okay.
After I see a couple of times
that you're doing it on here,
then I'm going to go
talk to the producer
and say, yeah.
I do it every day on here.
Nah.
I do it every day.
I do it every day.
I do.
I do, to an extent.
Just check it.
Check your boy tomorrow.
Yeah. ESPN, first tape. Wait, wait, wait. What time are you on? I'm on 10 day. I do. I do, to an extent. Just check it. Check your boy tomorrow. Yeah.
ESPN, first tape.
Wait, wait, wait.
What time you on?
I'm on 10 a.m.
10 a.m. Eastern.
Hey, hey, hey.
Well, since I can't be on this,
send your boy a shout-out, man.
Say hi to him.
Send your boy a shout-out.
I was going to say,
shout-out to Glenville.
We in the house.
Glenville.
Savannah State.
What up?
Nah, talk about FAMU.
I ain't going to no FAMU.
I went to Savannah State.
Wish I would, Mike Mitchell.
Some FAMU.
Hey, I'm proud of all the HBCUs,
but ain't nobody getting no love in front of SSU.
What's wrong with you?
That's fine.
Just bring me on there.
Bring me on there.
I wear my FAMU suit.
No, you ain't.
Bring me on there.
No.
Yeah, boy.
Man can do.
Boy, if I get on ESPN just one time,
boy, I know my mom and my grandma
going to be proud.
Look at my baby.
Look at your boy.
Hey.
Look at your boy.
I done made it.
Your boy on TV.
Granny, your boy made it.
Hey, your boy on TV, Granny.
Your baby on TV.
Yeah, that's why I need you to help me, man.
I don't need much. Just give me
I do two blocks. A block and a B block.
I don't need much.
I don't need much.
I'm just telling you. I don't need much.
See what you're saying? You say you're going to give me
crumbs. Give me crumbs. Give me the A and the
B block. That's all I need. See what you're
saying? See?
I'm trying to help you.
Now, I try to say, hey, look here, Ochoa,
I'm going to get you a pair of these Air Force 1.
No, give me the Jordan 1.
Damn, Ochoa, I'm getting you a pair of free shoes.
Now you telling me you want the A and the B block.
You said, yeah, you did that.
See, we ain't never satisfied.
I'm being nice.
I'm being nice by not trying to do the whole show.
Just give me a little appearance.
Just give me a little feature.
You see how you operate?
I get you a job.
You don't want to start mid-level.
You want to be the CEO.
I said mid-level.
A and B block, that's 10 minutes.
You do realize A and B start the show.
Those are the most important blocks.
That's why we put the most important top of that.
See what I'm saying? You making my point.
You making my point.
You ain't happy with the Air Force One.
You want the
Freddy Krueger's.
You want the
lobster's. I like the Air Force One.
Ain't nothing wrong with Air Force One, but if we
going to do something, let's do it right. Let's get the people what they
want. Get the people what they want, man.
So now you want me to take
the most expensive shoe
that the man gonna miss.
Uh-huh.
The man gonna miss like,
hey, where do y'all,
we have a size 11 Jordan.
Where is that shoe?
Listen,
understand what you get
when you get me that Jordan 1.
Understand what you get
once I'm in front of that TV
and that camera
with that goddamn three-piece suit on
with the look,
with the handkerchief hanging out of it. Understand what you get with the glasses in front of that TV and that camera with that goddamn three-piece suit on with the look, with the handkerchief hanging out of it.
Understand what you get with the glasses
on. Me off the air?
That's what I get. Me off the air.
So now,
we got two brothers.
We got two brothers that's not going to be on first
take no more. Me and you.
Well, listen.
Well, hey, listen. One thing about
it is I ain't going to sink the ship is I ain't going to sink the ship.
I ain't going to sink the ship.
We ain't going to be jacking roles.
It's going to be enough room for me and you on that dough.
So come on.
Just do what you need to do.
Get your boy on there, man.
Help your boy out.
Sometimes in life, you know what we got to do?
We got to pull each other up.
We got to pull each other up to get me where I need to get to,
to reach the pinnacle of my success off the field.
You got to put me in a position to win and succeed.
That's why I need you, brother.
That's your purpose.
That's your purpose.
You do realize, like, when you're trying to save someone and they're in the ocean and they're drowning, you know you're supposed to come up from behind because the person is drowning.
So he's going to push himself.
They're going to push themselves up. I don't like that analogy. I can swim.
No, no, you can't. No, you can't. But anyway, let me get my foot in the door.
Let me get a couple of these hostess segments. You know, they say, hey,
is there anybody you'd like to have on? I was like, yeah, you know what?
Now that y'all mentioned it, it is. You see how I did it, don't you?
Yeah, I like that. I like that. But listen, listen, you sound listen, you sound like Ray right now when he was out there bootlegging.
You sound like Ray right now.
You've been telling me when you get your foot in the door,
your foot that's been in the door for two months.
What else you waiting on?
Ocho.
Get the rest of your body in the door, man.
Help your boy out, man.
Yeah, let me.
Ocho, I got to get in, get settled.
I got to know where all the stuff at. I got to know where all the stuff at.
I got to know where all the stuff at.
You know where the stuff at.
You know what to do when that camera's on.
When that camera's on, you know what to do.
When the camera's rolling, I know what to do.
All I need is you to get me in the building.
Get me in the building and I'll take care of the rest.
Oh, Joe.
See, there you go.
See, I got you in the building and see what I suppose I'd have been doing is going straight there.
Me, I done got you in the building.
I got both of us caught.
I got both of us caught.
I got you.
Listen, this is what I used to tell Carson Palmer before every game.
This is what I used to tell my offensive coordinator before every game.
Come hell or high water, no matter what happens,
if you put me in position to succeed, I'm going to make you look good.
I'm going to make you look good.
Trust me.
Baby.
He's Chad Ochocinco Johnson.
I'm Shannon Sharp.
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