Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Mahomes' GOAT case, Is Brock Purdy Elite, Nicki vs. Megan Thee Stallion
Episode Date: January 30, 2024Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss if Patrick Mahomes is putting together a convincing argument to be considered the greatest QB of all time over Tom Brady, if Lamar Jackson will ev...er win a Super Bowl with the Baltimore Ravens, Dan Campbell doubles down on his decisions to go for it, can the San Francisco 49ers carry Brock Purdy to a Super Bowl victory, and much more! 00:00 - Introduction04:00 - Beyonce vs. Taylor Swift Part 219:00 - Patrick Mahomes' GOAT Case41:00 - Why Lamar Jackson can win a Super Bowl in Baltimore54:00 - Is Brock Purdy Elite?01:11:00 - Nicki Minaj vs. Megan Thee Stallion01:30;00 - Plane Farts go too far01:45:00 - Much More Nightcap! #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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hello ladies and gentlemen thank you for joining us again for another episode of nightcap i'm your favorite uh shannon sharp he's your favorite number 85 rock runner extraordinaire bingles
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Day. You got St. Patrick's Day.
Excuse me. You got a lot
of opportunities to have something to celebrate
birthdays. And hey, you got life.
Let's just celebrate life.
Go ahead. What you want to say? You hit it right down
the nose. You hit it right down the nose. Listen, I
don't drink. I've never partake
in consuming
any type of alcohol, but I will drink Le Fortier when
we hit a million subscribers. I need all of you, all of you that are watching, tell your bosses,
tell your uncles, tell your aunties, get your kids, tell your kids' kids to tell their parents,
just subscribe. When we hit a million subscribers in Vegas, I will be drinking
my first drop of alcohol.
And I'm excited.
I can't wait.
I'm excited also.
I want to see what the fuss is about,
why everybody like going to the club
and drinking socially.
I want to know what it's like
because that 56,
the fact that I've never had alcohol before,
it's a crime.
It's a crime.
It's a crime. But it's right here here that thing will have you right Ocho so please make sure you go ahead
and buy yourself a bottle or for you
or someone that's special
as a matter of fact go ahead and get you and that
someone special one we're going to start out with
some post championship
Sunday questions that I want to clarify
and discuss
Ocho you and I
had a conversation
last night about
Taylor Swift.
I think she's been, how many
games she's been to? Nine. They're nine and three,
right? Twelve games. She's been to
twelve games. They're nine and three in which
they play. And the network
seems to go
out of their way to make sure
they show her
obviously anytime Travis Kelsey does
something the camera will pan
they score camera will pan
even if they're not doing anything
they go into commercial
and so you and I was having
a discussion I said Ocho I don't
think anybody moved the needle
like Taylor Swift.
You say, give me a second. I think you had to go
to the bathroom. You came back. You said,
I got one. I got one. I said, who you got?
You say, I got Beyonce. And I
said, Ocho,
me, I don't think she moved the
needle quite like Taylor. I
understand that she is a global icon.
She is a global brand
unto herself like Taylor Swift. But I think the people are missing the conversation that you and a global icon. She is a global brand unto herself like Taylor Swift.
But I think the people are missing the conversation
that you and I are having. We're
talking about what the NFL is trying to do.
They're saying, we already got Jay-Z
and Beyonce
fans watching. Now we
need to get a different
revenue stream. I see where you're going.
I like that. I see where you're going. I like
that. They're saying those
little, those young, and I'm not saying
so people take everything in its literal
interpretation. Oh, so are you
saying there are no adults that like Taylor Swift?
Are you saying there's no blacks?
No, I'm not saying that.
But, and we're
trying to find the statistic
that I think it was NBC had put on their
screen about the young girls, the demographic. I think it was NBC had put on their screen about the young girls,
the demographic.
I think it was like 13 to 18
and like 18 to 24
that all of a sudden
started watching
and going to the games.
And they saw a big increase
in that situation.
Ash sent me a stat today.
Let me get it right quick, Ocho.
That's a good one. That's a good one.
That's a good one.
You know, it's funny. I'm going to let you finish
your point, but I would like to
counter that when you get done.
So when I think about, you say
we already have the
Jay-Z and Beyonce's, the likes
of them actually watching
the game. Their face already watching.
I am one to also think,
and I might be wrong, but hypothetically
speaking, if the roles were reversed and
Beyonce was
Taylor and Travis Kelsey was
just for the sake of saying it,
with Jay-Z playing tight end for the Kansas City Chiefs,
I don't want to put
another individual on
that union they had
that is special.
Correct. I get what you're going. I think the camera would still put another individual on that union they have that is special. Correct, correct.
I get what you're going.
Yeah, I think the camera would still pan.
I think the little girls that look up to Beyonce, that do sing and dance and adore her and what
she's been able to do from a global aspect, also here in America, also I think she would
move the needle as well.
Maybe not to the extent that you may see or to the extent that Taylor's doing,
but I think she's one of the few that also have the power to do this as well.
And there's one that I didn't mention last night because I also didn't want to bring her up,
but I think Rihanna has the ability of moving the needle the same way as well.
Because she sings and she's a brand as far as cosmetics within
her. Huge.
She has one thing
going because we know what she
does as far as in the music industry
and then she has a cosmetic brand
that's probably bigger than her music.
So she's a double, so she's what
they call a double-edged sword.
She's cutting left and right. Both sides
she's slicing it up but uh ash
gave me a stat she said the lead check is highest regular season female viewership since it began
tracking in 2000 and the best regular season among 18 to 34 year olds since 2019 from last year's
regular season uh this year's female viewership rose by nine percent now i'm not saying that's
all taylor swift i would be foolish and I would be
naive, but I understand
what the NFL is trying to do.
There's a reason.
You gotta leverage when it's hot.
You gotta leverage when it's hot.
When the first time, what have they done,
Ocho? For the first time, they put two
playoff games on a streaming platform.
Now, why would they do that?
Because for the longest time,
they said, ESPN, we can't
let you have a
Super Bowl for the simple
fact you paid.
We want everybody to be able to see it.
Just plug your TV in and you can watch it.
No matter where you are in the world.
No matter where you are.
What do they do this year, Ocho?
Put it on a streaming service. And guess what people did?
Signed up and watched it. Yeah, you had no choice.
If I'm not mistaken, I think 50 million people, I think they put Buffalo, wasn't it
Buffalo and Kansas City that was on the streaming that Sunday night?
Yeah, I think so. And I think it did like 50 million, did 50 million views, which was
the highest watched divisional game i think ever
if i'm not mistaken um look that up chad i know y'all will correct me um but but see here's the
thing we changed the variable we're talking about right now you say well if you add if beyonce was
dating a football player well if i had if you i had elon musk musk or bernard he knows money
we would be the richest men in the world.
But we don't.
We can't add that variable.
We have to use what we have right now.
You say, well, if it wasn't raining
or if this quarterback had that player,
you're changing the variables.
We have to use what we have right now.
Dolphins Chiefs.
Dolphins Chiefs.
There's another game on Peacock the following week.
That was only one game on Peacock?
Okay.
Dolphins Chiefs.
And that did $23 million, man.
$33 million.
Listen, if it don't make dollars, it don't make sense.
To the NFL?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, listen, we all know what their bottom line is at the end of the day.
And anything that they do do, they're going to do it to make sure they can monetize on it you know what's going to be next i don't mean to bring
one of stephen a's first things that stephen they always love to say you got to stay off the weed
and when they get it when they find out when they find a way to manipulate it where they can
from it they did that's why they got this
that's why it's same thing with alcohol.
They used to be prohibition. They bootlegged it.
But once the government found a way to tax
alcohol, what did they do? They made it legal.
Boom, made money. What did they do with weed?
How many people, how many
black and brown people are incarcerated
for weed?
Now they found a way to monetize it.
It's not merely. So guys,
when Ocho and I,
when we have a conversation,
it's not about like or dislike.
I'm not saying,
and a lot of times we disagree,
and that's not by,
okay, Ocho, you got to take this side,
I got to take that side.
Well, Ocho, you took that side.
We just disagree with certain things.
This was not to say
Taylor Swift is more talented or not.
This is not to say she can sing better or not. This is not to say she can sing better or not.
This is not to say anything other than what the NFL is doing when they show
her, this is what they're doing. And this is why they're doing it.
So, and I did not say people complex.
And there are other sites that said,
I said that Taylor Swift was biggest Michael Jackson.
I said, she's the closest thing to
that we do have.
That's a fact.
People can argue that, but it's a fact.
She's the closest thing that we have to it,
but will there ever be anyone close
to being able to do what Michael Jackson
was able to do? Absolutely not.
Well, I tell you what,
Ocho, you and I was talking about this earlier.
When Michael Jackson
pop out on stage and people start
fainting after they done paid $5,000, $10,000
for tickets and they missed the concert because
they passed out, I'm going to say
he or she is as big as Michael Jackson.
But until that happens,
it ain't happening.
It ain't happening. Michael,
Mike was different.
You set the standard. I don't
know if we're ever going to see
anything like him again because
we watched him as a child.
Jackson 5
and then he went off on his own
Off the Wall, which was his first release,
which was unbelievable. It might
be his best work, although
Thriller got more commercial
success with albums. It's hard for me to believe that Off the Wall wasn't his best work, although Thriller got more commercial success with albums sales, it's hard
for me to believe that Off the Wall wasn't his
best work. Now, there's another
branch we can take this tree
off of based on the conversation as far as
we talk about from an entertaining
aspect as far as stage presence
and actually watching
and commanding the eye
from an entertainment aspect
the way Michael Jackson did when it comes to
entertaining. We do have maybe two, maybe three that had that type of stage presence the way
Michael did. For one, Beyonce. I'm not sure. those those in the chat that have that have had the opportunity to see Beyonce perform in person.
To me, that equates to the same the same effect of seeing Michael perform live.
If you've seen some people might not agree with this. If you ever seen Chris Brown perform live on.
Oh, you can move, man. Listen, I'm talking about an entertaining aspect yes yes presence and
like very michael jackson-ish i'm not saying michael jackson right i'm talking from an
entertainment aspect you're gonna come performing and putting on um james brown was the originator
of that yeah james brown was the first singing and dancing the moves that you see Prince and all that little stuff it was James
and you know how hard
that is to be able to dance
and still sing
and be able to control your voice so everything
comes out the right way bro
listen when you I don't know
if you've ever been to a Beyonce concert
but I give her the utmost respect
because if you remember Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire,
I said Ginger Rogers had the hardest
job. Because
here's the thing. She did everything
Fred Astaire did.
She did it backwards and in heels.
When you
watch Beyonce, Beyonce got on
three five-inch heels and she's
non-stop singing,
dancing. She's all over the place. Quick change. She's back at it again and she's non-stop singing dancing she's all over the place quick change
she's back at it again and she's giving you two hours of work yeah you have to be impressed with
that look and that's no that's not a knock on people that don't that just go and they sing
like adele i love adele concert because adele not only does she sing she's a storyteller she
tell you where she was the state of mind she was in,
what she was thinking when she wrote this song,
and where she is now.
If you've ever seen her concert, kind of like John Legend.
I saw John Legend in concert at the Hollywood Bowl.
He's another storyteller.
Has a very interesting story.
But Beyonce, to be able to do that, it's like a DB.
You have to have, I say DBs are more athletic than wide receivers
because they're doing everything the wide receiver does,
but he's doing it backwards.
That's why you have the respect.
That's why people like Beyonce and people that sing, dance,
and entertain for two hours,
that's why y'all have to give them so much more respect
because do you understand?
And don't miss a beat.
And if they do miss a beat, you they do miss a beat you don't know
it you don't see it matter of fact
I forgot what
was on where
Beyonce
she slipped a little bit
she slipped a little bit
when she went low but you didn't notice
it because she stayed on beat
and what people don't get to see I think
if people are able to see this is why I like when Beyonce had she had a documentary so it takes you through everything
that she's going through to get to what people get to see when they show up to watch all we get to
see is a product when it comes to rappers when it comes to artists all we know is the music that
they put out and not all the work that goes into it. So you get, you get a better understanding on why she is great as she is.
Listen,
I told the story last night.
A lot of,
I think it went over a lot of people's heads when I told her,
listen,
I help with some of Beyonce's choreography.
I used to be a backup dancer,
you know,
at time,
you know,
way back.
Yeah.
Way back.
It's like 2015,
2014.
You know,
I was a backup dancer.
So I've seen the work that she's 1915. No, no, no, no, no, no. 2015, 2014. I was a backup dancer, so I've seen the work that she's put in. Or like 1915.
No, no, no. 2015.
I've seen the work that she's put in
to reach the stratosphere
in which she's at now, and
it's unbelievable to see what she's
become just based on me being
there and learning the choreography
and dancing and helping out.
I feel like I'm a part of that journey as well.
That's why I said,
that's why when you look at these great,
you look at them at home,
you look at Brady and you see the heroics on Sunday.
Do you know actually how much time they put in during the week with film
study and practice?
People don't understand.
You think they just like show up and listen.
They make it look so easy. They make it look so easy.
Exactly.
But do you know how many hours that you have to study to know,
okay, in this down and distance, in this area of the field,
and this time of the game, this is what defense they like to run,
and you got to just spit that out, entertain it.
It's got to be, it's nonstop computer.
And that's why I got like, it's non-stop computer and that's why I got
like it's like
when I got done people like you ain't go out
go out to do what do you understand
the mental grind that I was
on for the last two and a half hours
I don't really want to talk I don't want to do
anything I just want to go home and relax
I'm fine I got
blitz I got a block I got
a check I got to make sure everybody knows what
they need to do. Got my responsibility.
Man, it's a...
And that's only a
tenth of what a quarterback
has to know.
You understand what Patrick Mahomes...
What is on Patrick Mahomes' plate?
Brady or
Peyton Manning. I don't even want to know
how many hours Peyton spent studying
tape and watching, but it's over the monotony
of it. So, guys,
hopefully I offered some clarifications
because this was not a
oh, Shannon thinks this, Shannon
thinks that. There are a lot of people
and Ash's DM
said, man, Shannon talked
about there are adults, there are
big girls, older girls, young ladies that like Taylor Swift.
But I think you're missing the point of what I'm trying to say, what NFL is trying to do.
Peacock streaming only NFL wildcard game drove a record two point eight million signups.
That makes the Chiefs Dolphins game the single biggest subscriber acquisition in the event has ever measured.
makes the Chiefs-Dolphins game the single biggest subscriber acquisition in the event
that's ever measured.
$2.8 million times
basically $5 million a year.
I mean, a month.
$5 a month, excuse me. That's $14
million worth of additional revenue.
So, that's what...
We know what it is.
Another question we have,
when can Mahomes be in the GOAT conversation?
Oh, you have the conversation.
Yes, we can have a conversation right now.
He's already in it right now.
Yes.
And the fact that he's able to be in the GOAT conversation
so fast, six years into his career.
Nobody's ever been in this fast.
No, no, no.
You can't argue it.
Now, the closest to him if
i'm not mistaken would be would be similar to to maybe to brady a little bit huh yes yeah if you
look at it brady through their first six years first seven years brady had three super bowls
he has two brady had no regular season mvps he had two uh brady had two five uh had two Super Bowl MVPs. Mahomes had two. But he's 70
touchdowns and over
7,000, almost 7,000
passing yards ahead of where Brady
was at the same point in time
in their careers. So think about
that now. Yeah, that's crazy.
So basically what's going to happen is...
And he's one more playoff game. He's one more playoff game
ahead of where Brady was at the
same point. One playoff win.
So he's a two-time Super Bowl champ,
two-time NFB champ, two-time All-Pro.
Obviously, he's been to the Pro Bowl every year
he's been a starter. Every year he's
been in the league. He's 14-3
in the playoffs.
14-3 in the playoffs.
Don't say another word.
That's the exact same record.
Peyton Manning has 14 career playoff wins in 18 years.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Patrick Mahomes, in six seasons and starting, has 14 playoff wins.
So is it a testament for Peyton and the work he put in and the studying
and showing how difficult the sport is? And based on circumstance and the team he put in and the studying and showing how difficult the sport is
and based on circumstance and the team he was with,
does Patrick Mahomes have somewhat of an advantage
or is he just that much better and greater at the quarterback position
because he's having so much success early?
I don't know if we've had a quarterback that had all the tools
that Patrick Mahomes has, that can throw the ball 70 yards,
he can change arm angles.
His legs.
I don't know if we've seen a quarterback as talented as Patrick Mahomes.
And hold on.
Basically, he can throw with his left hand too.
Well, you saw him do it.
You saw he's actually done it. Throw with his left hand too.
He's actually done it.
And so when you look at it, and that's the thing,
when you look at what he's done because he he's not what we
call he was a game manager the second half because he and andy reed decided andy said you look at the
way andy called the game the first half and you look at the way he called the game the second half
he realized with the way his defense was playing and what he saw from the baltimore's offense if
we don't put this ball in harm's
way, I don't believe they can drive the ball 80, 90 yards and beat us.
Let's not give them a short field.
Go ahead, Ocho.
They hadn't made any adjustments offensively.
I saw what you said earlier on ESPN.
I think you were saying that the coaches coach and the players play.
Yes.
At some point, sometimes the coaches have to take advantage of the situations and
understanding what you're doing and not working.
And you got to make the minor adjustments to change things up.
I was arguing the fact that last night,
goddamn spags,
you keep on blitzing,
you keep on blitzing,
you keep on blitzing.
Well,
if you're blitzing to make,
you're blitzing to make Lamar uncomfortable.
Well,
it ain't on Lamar to change what he's doing because he has to run with the
plays that are called. This is the
chess match. A game of
football is nothing but a chess match. And
between coordinators, I need you to make
the best moves you can with the pieces
you had to work with. So if you're
doing the same thing and you know Spags is
blitzing all the time, whatever the percentage
of blitzing might have been in the first half,
it was a lot. They
tailed off of it towards the end of the game because
listen, at this point, nothing
seems to be wrong. And they got away from
what they do best. What the Ravens do
best, they got away from it.
Running the ball, even if it wasn't
working. You keep on doing that. I think the fact
that they got behind the eight ball a little bit.
They got behind the eight ball a little bit.
The Raven defense did their job
in the second half.
The adjustments that need to be made offensively, to me,
I don't think they were made the right way because they didn't score any points.
Right.
When the defense shut the Chiefs out in the second half.
Right.
Now, of course, some of the blame does go on Lamar.
But I think also from a coordinating standpoint,
the adjustments need to be made so you can
change some of the things you're doing so
you can run the ball and pass
it efficiently.
Ocho, a lot of times,
when was the last time the Ravens had
been behind in the game?
Oh,
okay, so now, how do I respond?
Because Ocho, I've always dictated.
I've never been in a situation, I haven't been behind in a game.
Maybe the Rams game, maybe it was the last game they had been,
because they won, I'm not talking about the last game,
I think they lost the last game, but that was because Lamar didn't play.
I'm saying, what was the last game the Ravens lost?
lost.
Because when you look at it,
when you look at it, they hadn't been behind in a very long time.
Right, right.
Yeah, but they sought Lamar. They sought their
starter.
They lost to the Browns.
Lamar play?
Oh, that was the
Deshaun game?
Yeah, but what week was that?
How long was that?
Because Deshaun got hurt
like week five or week six.
That must have
been the beginning of the season, huh?
It's at least eight weeks
as you over there counting on the fingers and toes and stuff it was week 10 so
the ravens hadn't been behind in a very long time and the likelihood everybody is afraid to
blitz lamar because they're afraid of him jumping out the window and taking off. Spag says,
I'm going to blitz you, but I'm blitzing
to contain you because I
still fear your legs more than I fear
your arm. And that's not
a knock. I mean,
some people, Lamar, I mean, excuse me,
Patrick Mahomes, people fear Patrick Mahomes'
arm much more than they fear his legs,
but he can go.
You remember in the Super Bowl last year when he took off
against Philly? We saw him yesterday.
We saw him a couple of times against Buffalo
last week. He can run,
but his legs
don't put the fear in you that his
arms does. Lamar arm
doesn't put the fear in him that his
legs does. And Spag says,
I'm blitzing to keep your ass
in the pocket because
if you beat me from the pocket, you
throw for three plus, three touchdowns,
I can live with that. I can
live with, hey guys, he got me today.
But I refuse to let you run for a hundred
plus. That's not going to happen.
You know what I do like?
What I do like is I like the improvement that Lamar
has shown that I want to be a pocket
passer first though, from the pocket.
You saw him a few times where, obviously, the route combinations that they were running, it wasn't working.
And the coverage, the plays that Spagabuff called him were good, but he was sitting there patting the ball three, four seconds.
But that clock, that clock on that strip fumble, that clock got to go off.
Got to go off. One second,
two second, three, you got to get
up out of there. You got to get up out of there and stop
waiting for something to come open.
At that point,
it's dead.
And so that's what I'm talking about.
But Mahomes is already
in the MVP conversation, GOAT
conversation, because nobody has
been as successful
through the first three years in its totality.
When you look at regular season MVPs,
Super Bowl MVPs,
he has two 5,000-yard passing seasons.
He's led the league in passing touchdowns twice.
Nobody can say they had this type of career
through their first seven years.
And so he's been in the league seven years,
but he's only been six years as a starter.
Same as Brady.
Brady didn't start his first year, which was 2000.
And then, yes.
So that's the comparison.
And people say, well, Brady got...
We're talking about through the first seven years.
Brady didn't have...
Even if Patrick Mahomes started every year and they
won the Super Bowl, he'd have the same number of Super Bowls
as Tom Brady. So come on, people.
Y'all just say anything
to try to get your point across. If you
notice, we're comparing through the
first seven years of their career.
When Patrick
Mahomes is done, then we
can look back through the totality.
But he's already in the GOAT conversation
based on what he's been able
to accomplish so soon.
I'm not saying he's the GOAT. I refuse
to bestow that upon him currently.
But he's ahead of
where Brady was, who became the GOAT
at the same point in time.
That's what we're seeing. Right. So right
now, Mahomes, he completed
67% of his passes.
Yes.
422 of 626 passes.
He has 4,182 passing yards, 38 TDs, just seven interceptions.
The damn quarterback rating is 106.3 quarterback rating.
In the GOAT conversation, we were talking about quarterbacks.
Where is he ranked right now
based on the Elways,
the Mannings,
the Brady,
the Peyton Manning,
the Aaron Rodgers?
Where is he slated to you,
for you,
based on what he's been able to do so far?
It's a very, very short list.
I mean, for me,
he's already top five.
So basically,
it's Brady,
Montana,
him,
and for me
and Mahomes
so that's who's fighting it out
and that's not a knock on Johnny Unitas
that's not a knock on Otto Graham
Bart Starr they've been some other great
quarterback but if you look at
where this kid is currently and what he's
been able to accomplish how do you say
he's not Mount Rushmore right now
I think
Aaron Rodgers
could really have a compelling case
if his playoff record wasn't so
bad. Right. But he
does have a Super Bowl. Does that count for anything?
He has one Super Bowl and a Super Bowl
MVP with four regular season MVPs.
MVPs. That's not enough.
I mean, he had
Patrick Mahomes has passed him as far as
playoff wins, right?
I mean, Patrick Mahomes
has been in the league half the time.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's not make it seem like Aaron Rodgers
had some studs because he
was throwing to Jordy Nelson. He was throwing
to James Jones. He was throwing to
Greg Jennings. Yeah, he had some
boys. Oh, he had some studs.
He had some boys. Yeah, he had some boys. Oh, he had some thugs. Yeah, he had some boys.
Yeah, he had Aaron Jones.
He had Eddie Lacy running the ball.
So let's not pretend like he didn't have
quality wide receivers.
I have another question for you.
This is a great topic. Chat, y'all stay with me
real quick, chat. Stay with me.
So, Brady Belichick,
we understood the maturation and relationship that they
had and that we
never knew who was responsible for the greatness
of the New England Patriots, whether it was Bill
or whether it was Tom, but we saw
once Tom left, we saw what happened.
So what happens if you
separate Andy Reid
and Patrick Mahomes?
Is it Andy Reid
or is it Patrick Mahomes?
Is it a similar relationship, similar to Mahomes Is it just Or is it A similar relationship
Similar to Bill
Bill and Tom
Or is this completely different
Andy Reid was in Philly
How long was Andy in Philly
14 years
He went to one Super Bowl
And he lost
He's been with Patrick
He's been
He's been
In the last five years
He's gone four times
Right
So you tell me
So it's the quarterback
Okay Okay That's the guy I was so it's the quarterback okay
I was curious
that's the guy
he is
and I'm not
look and they work well
together and I think
the thing for those two guys
none of those guys wants to see
I can win without you.
And that's what kind of started happening in New England because one of the guys started.
And I think for the most part, the media has done a great job not trying to say, well, who gets more credit?
Kind of like what they did. They started to do with Coach Belichick and Coach Brady.
Right. Coach Belichick, Coach Belichick and Brady.
They started like, well, who's most responsible for this dynasty? And they started to hear it. And Coach Belichick said, Belichick and Brady, they started like, well, who's most responsible for this dynasty?
And they started to hear it, and Coach Belichick
said, well, of course I am.
And Tom says, but
I'm the one that's throwing the football. I'm the one
that's out there doing it.
And all of a sudden,
well, I want to show you, I want to show you.
Because see, what happened with Joe and Coach
Walsh, when Coach
Walsh retired, Joe went to another Super Bowl and won and Coach Walsh. When Coach Walsh retired,
Joe went to another Super Bowl and won and won Super Bowl MVP.
So we had really never seen Super Bowl winning quarterbacks and a head coach split.
Like Terry Bradshaw could have that case
because Coach No still coached after Terry left.
But for the most part, it was,
but when we look at coach Belichick
and Tom I don't I and me I was I was the one and I think he deserves some credit because he did
a lot he drafted the players he did everything but at the end of the day those guys Tom Brady
got him he got he's got to pull that trigger every single
time. And what Tom could do
better than anybody currently
is that
he could, he understood
the situation. He understood
early on in the game, I'm going to be
in a shootout. I got to go, I got to do this.
Oh man, this game will be
nip and tuck. I can't turn it over.
So I'm going to force you to make a mistake
that's what he could do better than anybody
and you see Patrick Mahomes and you see Andy
Reid Andy got into like
no no no we gonna pull
hey I'm gonna hold this horse back
I know you want to run but I'm gonna
sit up on you and I'm gonna hold
these reins
let them make the mistake
and that's what they were able to do.
And so Aaron Rodgers is 11 and 10 in his playoff career.
Patrick Mahomes is 14 and 3.
That's crazy.
14.
That's crazy.
And six.
Okay.
One more hypothetical
Let's say you take Patrick Mahomes out
And you put Aaron Rodgers in the same position
With the same offense
With the same players
Is he 14-3?
No, because I believe he had situations
Where he had just comparable players
Mistakes
Right
The fact that Patrick Mahomes Decision making with the ball in his hands mistakes. Right. I don't,
I don't believe either.
The fact that Patrick Mahomes decision-making with the ball in his hands,
is that much better?
We're okay.
Okay.
Yes.
All right.
And,
uh,
but guys stop.
Oh,
Tom Brady.
So if you say Tom Brady is the goal,
because he beat Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs.
So what's Nick pose?
He beat Tom Brady.
Is he to go?
Eli Manning beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl.
Is he the GOAT?
Joe Flacco beat Tom Brady in the AFC Championship game.
Is he the GOAT?
So I'm just trying to figure.
He beat him twice.
He beat him in the wild card game his rookie year,
and he beat him in the AFC Championship game.
So if that's what we're basing it on,
if one player beats said player in a game,
a head-to-head, that makes him the better player.
That makes him the GOAT.
So by that logic, Nick Foles is the GOAT, or Eli is the GOAT,
or Joe Flacco is the GOAT.
The thing is just body of resume, body of work, body of work,
the totality of your body of work.
No, Brady did not lose the name quarterback.
So Nick Foles is the name quarterback, right?
So that's what y'all saying.
The guy's been all over the place.
Remember, he was in Kansas City. He thought about retiring before he been all over the place. Remember, he was in Kansas City.
He thought about retiring
before he ended up going back to Philly.
He was in Kansas City.
He was at the Rams.
Look at what he,
how would he look at Chicago?
How did he look in Jacksonville?
Remember he got that big payday
from Jacksonville?
How did Nick Foles look in Jacksonville?
After he had did what he did
to the Patriots,
went head to head with Tom Brady
and didn't blink.
How did Nick Foles look?
So that means he's the GOAT because he beat Tom Brady
in the biggest stage. Eli Manning.
He the GOAT.
He beat Tom Brady.
Twice. Twice!
So he got to be the GOAT.
If that's what
we're basing it on, y'all in the chat,
you're saying because Brady beat
Patrick Mahomes in the AFC Championship game
and the Super Bowl, therefore he's
the GOAT. What is Eli Manning
that's 2-0 head-to-head in Super Bowls
against Tom Brady? What's Nick Foles?
Now you see how flawed your argument is.
You know it's more than that.
Because it's regular season, it's MVPs, regular season,
it's All-Pro, it's Pro Bowls, it's Super Bowl, it's MVPs.
It's a lot of things.
Passing touchdown, led the league in passing touchdown,
led the league in passing yards.
It's a lot of things that go into this.
It's just not wins. It's a yards. It's a lot of things that go into this. It's just not wins.
It's a resume.
It's a body of work.
Right now, Tom Brady has the greatest body of work.
But to say that Patrick Mahomes,
and it doesn't mean that he's going to catch him or surpass him,
but he's ahead of where Brady was at the same point in time in their careers.
That's what what I mean.
Yeah, I mean, there's a chance he can catch.
Yes.
The chance he can catch him.
How?
It's possible.
Here's the thing.
You keep that unit together.
Think about what the Patriots did all the time.
The pieces to the puzzle with the Patriots change every year, whether it be offensively, whether it be defensively.
Different receivers came in, different running backs came in.
But there was one centerpiece that always remained in place, and that was 12.
So the same thing could happen over there in Kansas City as well.
You manipulate the money, manipulate the cap, move some of Mahomes' stuff into
a signing bonus, and you'll always be able
to continue to be able to build around him.
Always. Which means
you will always be in contention, come
hell or high water, as long as that centerpiece
is always in place. And let
that sink in. They took
away the most dangerous, the last two years,
they took away the most dangerous
receiver in the NFL,
and Patrick Mahomes won an MVP and got the back-to-back Super Bowls.
Now, you tell me that's not greatness.
Let that sink in, ladies and gentlemen.
So, if I took Jamar Chase away from Joe Burrow for two years,
who would have been, if I took CD away from Dak for two years,
hell, Dak can't get to the Super Bowl with CD.
So that's a flawed argument.
Who can I go with?
Who can we go with, Ocho?
Who can we go with?
Don't talk about the boy.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Don't talk about the boy.
Don't talk about the boy like that.
So if I take away,
if I take away whomever we think
are the best wide receiver comp,
a quarterback duo,
and I took them away for two years. What's
the likelihood that you believe they could win an MVP
and get the back-to-back Super Bowls?
Wait, listen, that
put... Because I don't think people realize
what happened. He lost Tyreek.
Tyreek is the first player in NFL
history to go back-to-back 1,700-yard
receiving season. There's a great
chance Tyreek Hill, he could possibly win
Offensive Player of the Year. I think it's probably going to
go to Christian McCaffrey, but I'm just saying
back-to-back 1,700-yard receiving
season. Patrick Mahomes
lost that. Won an MVP,
a Super Bowl MVP, and going
to back-to-back Super Bowls.
Now you tell me what that is. Because y'all,
he had Tyreek, he had Tyreek.
Well, he hadn't had Tyreek for two years
and he's back in the Super Bowl.
Buddy good, man.
Yeah.
And that's the same thing I said about Brady.
Do you understand that Brady went to...
And see, this is why we said about Joe.
Do y'all realize Joe went to two Super Bowls
and won two Super Bowls before J.S. set foot
in San Fran?
Do people realize that? Yes. Joe Montana won two Super Bowls and won two Super Bowls before Jerry set foot in San Fran? Do people realize that? Yes. Joe Montana
won two Super Bowls and was two Super Bowls
MVP before
Jerry set foot
in San Fran. Tom Brady
won three Super Bowls
before Gronk set foot in New England.
Boy, this is good, man.
So, I don't
I don't devalue any
quarterback based on what
they got Jer was great Jerry took
Joe to another level Joe took Jerry to
another level Brady was great
Gronk took him to another level
yes
Tyreek was unbelievable
but and
the go on conversation
now you do realize Travis Kelsey tied Jerry Rice Tyreek was unbelievable. But, and to go on conversation,
now you do realize Travis Kelsey tied Jared Rice
for the most 100-yard playoff games in NFL history.
He passed Jared Rice yesterday
for the most catches in playoff history.
Playoff history, yeah.
Okay, I don't know where,
I think he's close behind Jared in touchdown catches.
So he plays big in big moments.
He plays great in the regular season.
All these thousand catch seasons.
Y'all make it seem like I said Gronk was a bum,
but based on a nephew's body of work.
Yeah.
Y'all make it seem like it's out of the realm of possibility.
Y'all make it seem like I said, oh, I'm the goat over Gronk.
Nah, Travis Kelsey got a compelling case.
And for me, based on what he's done and how long he's done it in the consistency, he's the GOAT for me.
Yeah.
It's hard to argue.
It's hard to argue.
It's hard to argue the numbers.
It's hard to argue the resume.
It's hard to argue the body of work because it's right there in front of you.
So when you have a compelling case and you're looking at the facts,
I mean, what is there to say?
Because then if anybody wants to argue the fact,
then it goes down to based on preference
and you just eliminate the numbers.
Well, I like this individual player better
based on whether it be style of play
or catching or whatever it may be.
Maybe it's your favorite team,
but they will come up with something
to move the goalposts to argue the fact
regardless of what the resume or the body of work says.
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Will Lamar be able to win a Super Bowl in Baltimore?
What says Chad Ochocinco Johnson?
You know how difficult it is?
Let's start there.
As great as Lamar is, do you understand how difficult it is to get back?
You know I understand how difficult it is.
Yeah, yeah.
And listen, I'm talking shit about how difficult it is.
And I ain't been to no AFC Championship or Super Bowl outside of playing Madden but I
still understand and know the game and how
difficult it is for teams to get back and we've been
spoiled with Mahomes we've been spoiled
with Brady and thinking that well that's
the standard and it's possible to do it
over and over because look
they did it and it ain't like
that it ain't like that that's
why situations like
looking at Dan Campbell and
the Lions not being in that position in what 30, 32, 30 plus years. It's very difficult.
And to get back, it's going to be two times as hard because now you got a target on your
back. Now people have film study on you. They're ready for what you did.
And you have the number one
schedule because you won your division.
Bingo. So now you get the hardest schedule
like that. It's very difficult.
But Lamar, again, and I
will say it, for what he's been able to do
in the regular season, he is so
dynamic. The opportunities will always
present itself and he will always have his team
in contention to be
one in the playoffs,
one contending for AFC championship,
but they have another team
out over there in the AFC North that they're going to have to deal with.
Ah, man, they don't deal with y'all.
Y'all got to get by
Lamar. You got to worry about
Lamar. No, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Number nine, number nine over there.
Number eight, number eight over there. Number nine over there. Number eight.
Number eight over there.
Number nine over there in Cincinnati from the boot.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah.
Joe Cool.
Joe Shiesty.
Ain't no Lamar from the bottom.
Huh?
Yeah, he from the bottom.
He from the bottom.
Yeah, he from the bottom. Okay, dear.
You got to deal with him.
Listen, because a healthy Joe Burrow, listen, let's not ignore what he's done.
A healthy Joe Burrow ain't be the healthy Lamar.
Let's not ignore what he's done also A healthy Joe Burrow ain't beat a healthy Lamar. Let's not ignore what he's done
also in a very short amount of time, now.
He can't change an entire organization like this
with a snap of a finger.
And he even had to flick his heels three times.
When has a healthy Joe
beaten a healthy Lamar?
You know what?
I don't have the numbers in front of me.
I don't have the stats in front of me. I don't have the stats in front of me.
I don't have the games
in front of me.
You ain't going to be there.
We'll see what happens
in 2024.
I bet you that.
We already got it.
We already got the money on it.
All I'm going to say is,
Ocho,
you know what?
I'm going to show us
about a family.
How much we bet?
500.
500 again.
Yeah.
Okay, bet.
You know what, Ocho?
So you're going to be out of 1,000.
I can tell you that.
I'll tell you what.
I bet you bottom dollar on that. You're going to be out of 1,,000. I can tell you that. I'll tell you what. I bet your bottom dollar on that.
You're going to be out of $1,000.
I'm going to sit.
You know what I want you to do?
I want you to send me my money.
Let's go ahead and put the money up.
Because I'm a firm believer.
Firm believer, Ocho.
A money out of sight calls a fight.
Put the money up.
Let me see it.
Ain't going to cause no fight.
Yeah, no, a money out of sight calls a fight.
But listen, it ain't going to cause no fight
because I'll jump on you like a spider monkey.
This ain't what you want.
You know, Ojo.
I'm good for it. You know I'm good for it
because my word is all I got.
You ever shopped pool for money?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What you do?
Put the money out.
Take the money out.
Put the money on the table.
We took the money up under the wood.
Or we put it on...
Everybody know that they ever shot money for...
Shot who for money, roll die.
The money got to be out.
Money out of sight cause a fight.
Okay, I'm going to pull it out the bank.
All right.
I'm going to pull it out the bank.
But you're going to lose.
The fact that you even want to bet against
Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins
and Tyler Boyd and the boys.
I like that.
Hold up. You bet against Lamar. You bet against Lamar. And Zal Chase and Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd and the boys. I like that.
Hold up.
You bet against Lamar.
You bet against Lamar and Zay Flowers
and Lively
and likely,
excuse me,
likely Andrews
will be back healthy.
Bateman.
All right.
All right.
Edwards and Hill,
although they didn't use
Edwards and Hill yesterday.
You're talking real spicy, boy.
You're talking real spicy.
I'm just saying, I'm true.
All right.
They won that division.
Who won it the year before that?
And the only reason we lost the division this year
and the only reason we lost the division this year
because Joe Burrow was hurt.
He always hurt.
What new? He always hurt.
No, he ain't.
His first year, what happened?
Second year, what happened? Where did he't. His first year, what happened? Second year, what happened?
Where did he take us?
Where were we at?
Third year, what happened?
AFC Championship.
Last year, this year, what happened?
Okay.
A little small setback.
Okay, then.
Injuries are a part of the game.
Well, we got that.
We got that.
We got you covered.
We got you covered.
We'll deal with you.
We're going to deal with you.
Listen, I'm never wrong when it comes to picking games.
Listen, this year I went,
I probably went 17 and 0 when it came to picking games.
No, you ain't picking games.
Picking the team to win.
No.
Well, you picked Baltimore yesterday,
so you wrong on that one.
So you 17 and 1, I know at least.
Yeah, actually, just to be honest,
I'm 17 and 2.
17 and 2 because I picked the Lions and went 2.
You said, oh, okay.
Oh, man.
No, but look, I didn't chime in.
I think he can.
People make it seem like Lamar is in year 14.
The man's only in year 6
or 7.
So damn.
Yeah, I think it's his fifth year starting.
Lamar's fifth year starting
because he came in the year after
Lamar. I mean after
18.
He had to play one behind Joe Flacco,
right? Yes.
Then Flacco got hurt.
Remember, Flacco got hurt, and then they put him in.
He ended up taking him to the playoff.
They lost in the first round.
They lost in the wild card game.
Two other charges at the time they were in San Diego.
But, yes, I do believe he can get there.
It's tough.
See, Brady and Mahomes has spoiled it for everybody
because they think everybody just go,
or the first year go, oh, here we go.
It doesn't happen.
Nah.
It takes some time, Mocho.
And sometimes, I mean, we saw it go through with Peyton.
Hell, Elway lost bad three times.
And I'm talking about
them games wasn't close
he lost 55-10, 42-10
yeah he was getting
the doors blown off
but he got there
I mean he got there what, 83 was his
first draft, he got there in 86, got there again
in 87, then got there again in 89
so he went to the Super Bowl like three times
in his first seven years. Lost them all.
Lost them bad.
And then it was another seven years before he got back.
Went both back to back.
But, man, it's not
easy getting
to the Super Bowl and winning.
Yeah, he's going to get back
maybe not to the Super Bowl, but
come hell or high water,
every time Lamar touches the field, they have a chance. They would be in contention for it. Maybe not to Zubo But Come hell or high water Every time Every time
Lamar touches the field
They have a chance
They would be in contention
For an AFC championship
Every time
The fact is
You know what's coming
This is
This is what
To me
What tells
The greatness of a player
Is you know what you get
You watch film on him
You know what's coming
And you still can't stop it
You know what he does well You know what he's's coming And you still can't stop it You know what he does well
You know what he's going to do
And you still can't stop it
So when you have a player
That caliber
That can make things happen
Not with just his legs
Now showing you can do it
With his arm as well
You'll always have a chance
With somebody that special
Yeah
Well
I believe he can
Dan Campbell says he
he doesn't regret going for it
twice. Stand on it. You gotta
stand on it. You gotta stand on
it. You can't listen. You you
gotta stand on it. Dan came in
one way. He came in one type of
way. He came in talking shit.
Talk about biting kneecaps and
he's been riding that wave and
staying true to who he is
and his players like it.
And you don't get to the biggest game
of your career, hell, in the Lions
organization, and all of a sudden, change
who you've been since day one.
Would you have liked him to change? Yes.
The chance of it happening?
Probably not.
But up 17,
shouldn't you change something?
Yeah, yeah.
See?
You're not behind in the game, and you're not only up seven.
You're up by two scores.
Why not push it to three scores?
And I get that's who we are.
But at some point in time, I'm going to make them beat us.
I'm not going to let the crowd get back into the game
if we go forward on fourth and don't get a stop.
Because now they go down, they get points, we fumble,
and what was a 17-point game is now a seven-point game.
And now you've got 80,000 back into the game.
You let them back into the game.
And so I get, you know, this is who we...
Atlanta, I get who you are,
but you don't think you want to run the ball some?
How does a team that's behind 28-3 run the ball more the second half
than the team that's up 28-3?
That's all I'm saying, though, Joe.
So how does a team that led the league in rushing
and your best rusher only has two more carries than Patrick Mahomes.
And as a team,
you have fewer carries
than Isaiah Pacheco has by himself.
That's all.
I think, Ocho, but I think this.
I think we've all
regretted something
and our pride
wouldn't let us say that publicly.
Right.
But when we alone in ourselves,
when we're in our innermost thoughts,
man, I could do that over.
You think he feels he should have changed
like those four down?
Ocho, you had a 17 point lead
and you're a half away
from going to the Super Bowl
and you ain't got no regrets
right
none
listen
the
you know what got him here
you know what got the Lions
to this point
that same type of
aggressive play calling
but how many games that same That same belief in his players
that they're going to get the job done
when their numbers call.
Let me ask you a question.
How many games were they up 17
and played that style?
Yes, I'm with you. You're right. and that's the thing Ocho
I'm with you when you write
I mean Ocho
you can do things here's the thing Ocho
you did things differently
when you were Chad Johnson coming up
than you do right now than your Ocho
you can't be the same
nah
adaptability is the greatest key to survival than you do right now than your Ocho. You can't be the same. Nah.
Adaptability is the greatest key to survival.
Based on circumstance, yes sir.
So because I've always done it like this,
I'm going to continue to do it like this.
That is a foolish way of thinking.
Thinking, right.
Yeah. I think it's hard to change, though.
It's hard for a zebra to change his stripes
because he's in a different setting,
in a different surrounding,
in a different setting, you know?
A zebra's always going to hold his stripes
no matter where he's at.
Right.
Brock Purdy.
Is Brock Purdy elite?
Brock Purdy is a good quarterback.
That ain't what I asked you.
Brock Purdy is a good quarterback surrounded
by immense talent across
the board. Elite?
No.
When I say that, they get
mad at me. Why would they get mad
Maybe it's the delivery in which you say it
Maybe it's the delivery in which you say it
I mean Brock Purdy is an elite
Brock Purdy is a
Brock Purdy is a good quarterback
Who is surrounded by immense talent
I love Brock
And what we saw from Brock the other night
Which we haven't seen
Is Brock play
Against adversity
In the biggest moments
Yes
You don't fold
You don't throw interceptions
You don't turn the ball over
You make all the throws
Not only that
I saw Brock
Take off with the ball
And run
I ain't seen him do that all year
Right
I ain't seen him do it all year But I ain't seen him do it all year.
But I saw when they played the Ravens
and you had to play from behind.
I saw interceptions.
Even though they're unfortunate tip balls, I saw interceptions.
And there was just
no way in hell you were going to
come back in the game. But to come back
against the Lions and do it?
Down 17?
And the onus is on
Brock Purdy. The onus is on Brock Purdy.
The onus is on 13.
We got to put the game in your hands.
I haven't seen him do what we saw him do
the other night enough
for him to be in the elite conversation.
He did it in that moment.
And he did exceptionally well.
But not elite.
Not elite. People are going to say, well, he wouldn't have been more elite. Very. But not elite. Not elite.
People are going to say, well, he wasn't a Super Bowl elite.
Very good quarterback, though.
Very good quarterback based on the situation and what they asked him to do.
So let me ask you a question.
Yes, sir.
If Brock Purdy wins the Super Bowl, makes him elite, Trent Dilfer was elite.
Because he won with the Bucs?
Because he won the Super Bowl with us.
Oh, yeah. I'm talking about the Bucs? He won the Super Bowl with us. Oh, yeah.
I'm talking about the Bucs.
I'm talking about with y'all.
With us.
Joe Flacco was elite.
I mean, if that's your argument,
elite.
Elite is a different category, man.
We talk about currently playing today.
What is it?
Maybe two quarterbacks?
We talk about elite? Yes. Do people understand what is it? Maybe two quarterbacks? What's my elite?
Yes.
Do people understand what elite is?
No.
They think if you have a couple of good games, you're elite.
Oh, elite consistency.
Over an extended period of time.
Period of time.
Receivers.
People in the chat said, if Mahomes lose the Super Bowl, he's not elite.
You see, that's why I really don't like talking football with fans.
Because they say anything.
They will.
They'll say anything.
So now if Mahomes lose the Super Bowl, he's not elite.
So we're going to take a guy that's won two league MVP, two Super Bowl MVP,
two 5,000-yard passing season, two-time first-team All-Pro.
He lose the Super Bowl.
Now he's not elite.
See how we talk? thousand yard passing season two time first team all pro he loses Subo now he not elite and I try to have a conversation
and I like having conversation with
the fans because I try to offer insight
into the mind of a professional athlete
and I like to think I was pretty good at what I
did I try to take you inside the huddle
I try to take you inside the locker room
but when y'all say stuff like this how do
you expect me to take you serious
you really want to talk serious football?
Maybe they argue and just argue.
Maybe they argue and just argue just to engage and just create a topic and just create dialogue.
Dialogue that makes no sense.
Let's talk about elite receivers.
What makes an elite receiver?
You got to do it over a period of time.
Listen, one, you come in year one.
Oh, you surprise everybody. They don't respect you. Listen, one, you come in year one.
Oh, you surprise everybody.
They don't respect you.
They're going to play you one-on-one.
Let's see what you got.
Year two, you come back.
Okay, your body of work is on camera.
Now we know what's coming.
Let's see if you can do it again.
Year three, the defense of play calls when you break the huddle as a receiver is lined up based on where you are.
Now we know it's coming and you still getting off.
Yeah.
The body of work, even in year three, when most receivers arrive into their own, you're still doing it.
Right.
The consistency in doing it year in, year out, even when they know it's coming, puts you in the elite conversation as a receiver.
Same thing with a quarterback.
Yeah, but heard the thing.
Oh, Joe.
Eli won two Super Bowls
and nobody ever considered him elite.
I'm just speaking honestly.
He won two Super Bowls.
He beat Tom Brady,
the GOAT quarterback,
in the biggest game
and nobody ever considered him elite.
Right.
Is Eli Manning a game manager?
No, hell no.
Okay, okay.
I mean, he had Tiki Barber.
Tiki Barber ran the hell out of the football.
Tiki led the league in rushing
I think he had a couple of 1600 yard rush
season Tiki was really good
I know people might not like
Tiki
holding the damn ball way up here when he ran
because he had a fumbling problem
a fumbling problem yeah
I just like I said I just I think for me I just have I just have a different standard and maybe
maybe my standard to which I judge players are a little harsh and I think it maybe is because
excuse me I've been around great players I've been around elite quarterbacks and so what I
think elite is may be too stringent for what the fans that watch.
Right.
And I get it.
Your guy, you always want to thank.
If I'm a 49ers fan,
hell yeah, I thank you elite.
Elite, okay.
Because that's my quarterback.
You got to get the fandom out of it
and you got to stop thinking with emotion.
Let's think with logic
and understanding the game of football
and understanding who is elite
and who's not.
He's in a great situation and he's a very good quarterback
based on what they ask of him to do.
Let's say you
take Brock Purdy out of there and you
put Brock on another team.
What does he look like?
I think Mahomes could go to any of the
other 31 teams.
Hold on.
If Kansas City had Patrick Mahomes,
they might not lose a game.
Who?
Oh, the 49ers?
The 49ers.
If they had Patrick Mahomes
as their quarterback?
That ain't fucking fair.
That ain't fair.
Because that ain't no different
than the 73-9 Warriors.
That ain't fair.
Listen, I'm not a basketball fan.
I'm just using that analogy
because the team was very good.
Because, listen,
there are certain quarterbacks you put
that can overcome
not having great talent around them.
I think Patrick Mahomes
can go on any other team
and make them great.
I think Joe Burrow
is also one of those players
that can do the same.
I think Lamar Jackson
can also do that
and go on other teams
and make the,
and overcome
the lack of talent around them.
I agree.
Some can, some can't.
Ocho, I don't know if you saw this.
Justin Tucker downplays the pregame moment between him,
Travis Kelsey, and Patrick Mahomes.
Tucker was stretching, taking some kicks in the same area
which Mahomes was going through his pregame routine.
In response, Kelsey grabbed Tucker's helmet,
tossed it to his side.
He tossed it.
Yeah. Tucker made it clear he didn's helmet, tossed it to a side. Yeah.
Tucker made it clear he didn't think the situation was a big deal. He just thought it was
some gamesmanship, all in fun, but it seemed to be taken
a little more serious. Tucker,
you know how this go. You can kick anywhere
you want to, but when the opposing
team takes the field in that end zone, you got to move
it along, bro. Yeah, yeah. And in the
back, the Patrick Mahomes, Ocho,
I don't know how it was with you, but
all the coaches, don't put your
helmet on the field because the quarterback dropping and somebody
stepping it, pass rusher comes
by, and they're stepping that helmet.
Yeah. So he
had his helmet, Patrick Mahomes is taking
steps. Bro, you got to move it
alone. Yeah, yeah.
He was on the wrong end of the field
anyway. Like, kickers
get out there extremely early. And they kick
at both ends because they're going to be
kicking on both ends potentially. So you
want to see, you know, you started like 25
yards. I mean, you started PATs
and you move back in five-yard
increments. Different angles, middle
of the field, you go to the hash, each hash.
But when the opposing team
comes and they go to one end of
the field you've got to move it along by the way yeah it ain't no game it ain't no more gamesmanship
yeah this guy get your get out of the way i like little mind game little mind games from the
greatest kicker of all time little mind game listen i remember my favorite my favorite thing
is when we used to play the steelers, we used to play the Ravens,
me and Joey Porter always meet up at the 50,
talking trash like we finna fight,
but I wasn't finna hit nobody.
Just sit there arguing.
Me and Ray, you know, we do that little meet up at the 50.
Right.
Say hello.
Say a little prayer real quick.
Then I get to talking trash to Suggs,
talking trash to Bart Scott,
bothering everybody. and the thing is
Ocho is like
when you warming up in the pregame
everybody's basically kind of like
at the 45s
so hey you got your
hey man y'all
ain't nobody intimidating nobody
don't come over here with that foolishness now
cause we about to do this for an hour Look, ain't nobody intimidate nobody. Don't come over here with that foolishness now. Yeah, yeah.
Because we about to do this for an hour.
Mm-hmm.
You're going to have your chance.
All that talking that you done said last week.
I've been leading up to the game.
All that I talked about.
All that wolfing running around the field.
Yeah, it's on today.
Man, stop.
Ain't nothing on.
Y'all ain't going to do nothing.
You know y'all sorry.
You know you sorry. You ain't got nothing today, Sharp. You ain't going to get nothing on. Y'all ain't going to do nothing. You know y'all sorry. You know you sorry.
You ain't got nothing today, Sharp.
You ain't going to get nothing today.
I said, I bet I'll leave here with more catches than I came in this game with.
I bet you that.
I might not be nothing.
Hey, listen.
Joey Porter used to come out there, man.
Have his shirt rolled all the way up here.
Abs showing.
Like, look like he oiled up.
Yeah, oh, yeah.
Oh, man. Hey, them used to be some good days man
Ah there used to be some good days
I miss
That's the kind of stuff I miss
People always ask
You miss playing football
Like nah
I don't miss it
You know what I mean
I miss the camaraderie
And I miss the trash talk
And I miss the stuff from pregame
I miss the annex
You know the
Just picking with the opposing players,
aggravating them. They be
pissed, cussing me out, and I'm screaming,
listen, I love you.
They want me to fuss back. I'm just
all, man, I miss them days,
man.
I wasn't no big in gamesmanship.
I got to my area,
and I got ready. I got, you know,
I'm in my thing. I ain't all ready. I got, you know, I'm in my thing.
I ain't all about that Josh and, you know, move.
What?
You ain't talk before game?
I talk.
Look, if I done talk during the week, we can talk.
I mean, I'm good.
Like I said, you know, they come out.
Oh, Joe, you know how everybody come out.
They got their sleeves rolled up. They got their socks rolled down.
Yeah, they looking.
Yeah.
Ain't nothing happening today. Man, get your ass out of here.
What you mean ain't nothing happening today?
You already know what it is. You coming
to the mile high? Man, you know
you about to catch an L. Stop that.
Y'all not that. You not that either.
Why you talking?
The best player not even
talking. You on special team. What the hell
you talking for right right right
oh man you keep on talking
I bet you find your name on the waiver
on Monday now keep talking
oh
keep talking
I bet you be on the waiver while first thing Monday morning
I don't
never go that low man I go low
I can't tell you when they go low
I go to the basement and if they come join me I go to hell I'm gonna go that low man I go low I can't tell you when they go low I go to the basement
and if they come join me
I go to hell
I'm going to go lower
than what you go
oh back
it's like
not on
not on
you know what I'm saying
not on TV
I got to you know
keep it a book
football
you know where anything go
you know where anything go
Mo definitely
Mo definitely
we're going to talk crazy we we're gonna talk crazy out there
yeah and the funny thing about it the more you say and this is something i used to do you know
i i'm giving you bulletin board material on wednesday media day i'm gonna talk i'm gonna
talk media day so i got to be ready come sunday yes oh they trying they trying to knock my head
off because i did all that talking
and all that woofing.
And I'm ready for that.
I understood.
Yes.
I put the pressure,
I put the onus on myself
because it forced me
to play at a high level.
Yes.
Even though it was fun
and it was entertaining,
I put the work in.
I put the work in
through the week
and I understood
what the end goal was.
Right.
And I ain't got no problem.
Look, if you get a clean shot, take it.
But all that cheap shot,
you know, somebody got your back and then they come
and try to hit you in the back. Okay.
Yeah, I think they got, yeah.
I remember we played the Falcons. We played the Falcons.
Okay. Oh, yeah.
They hit me after the play. I think the coach
might have told him, just hit him after the play just to
get him rattled a little bit. Hit him after the play, get him
rattled. And he rattled me.
And he rattled me.
Oh, so that's how we playing?
My young, I'm not physically imposing
anyway. I ain't physically imposing.
Oh, that's how we playing?
Okay, bet.
I'm going to get you back. I'm physically
imposing. I'm going to get your ass back. I'm going to get your
teammate back. Listen, physically imposing. I'm going to get your ass back. I'm going to get your teammates back. Listen,
my imposing, my
imposement was my feet.
That's all I had. My feet in my mouth.
So, hey, I'm going to get you that way.
See, we played the old school black in high school.
If you hurt one of our guys,
we went out our way to hurt one of yours.
We're going to get you. Like, really? Hurt, hurt?
Hurt, hurt.
Oh, man man my sophomore
year we played
Johnson County that's Herschel Walker's
high school
man I ran I remember to play
just like yesterday it was 41
cross book man
man I hit the hole
dude clipped me
man you hit the hole
I hit the hole
I was a running back.
Yeah, I was a running back.
Okay.
Yeah, it was my sideboard year, Ocho.
It was like 80, yeah, 83.
Goddamn.
Yeah.
Man, dude clipped me, Ocho.
Yeah.
Hit me in my knee.
Luther Maynard was the other running back.
Man, Luther say, man, what number was it?
I said, Scoop.
We called him Scoop.
I said, man, I don't know, Lou.
I think it was number two.
Lou said, I got it.
Put him out of the game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He had a crack back.
I don't know what he did to him.
They put me in the ambulance, jumped me to the hospital.
I don't know.
But when I saw him on Monday, he said, hey, Sharp, I got him.
I put his ass out of the game.
I said, good looking out.
Oh, yeah.
And in the game, somebody did something cheap.
Man, who did it?
I didn't know who did it.
I'm going to get him or I'm going to get his teammate.
That was cheap.
You know what, Sharp?
I said, hey, yo got started Right. That's some cheap, you know what, Sharp? Somebody going to pay for it.
Yeah.
Your guy started it.
All I need to know how we doing this today,
we going to snap to the whistle
or we going to snap to after the whistle?
I just need to know because I'm ready for anything.
Yeah.
Because that's how we going to do it.
You're not going to cheap shot me.
You think I'm going to let you cheap shot me.
So then you can tell, hey, man, you can cheap shot, sharp, man. Oh, no, that's not going to cheap shot me. You think I'm going to let you cheap shot me. So then you can tell, hey man, you can cheap
shot, man. Oh no, that's
never going to happen. Not on my team.
Remember
when people used to piss Hines Ward off?
Oh yeah.
Man.
He got
Keith Rivers. That's the rule. That's why you can't block
Black. He broke his jaw.
He broke his jaw. He got Air jaw. He got Ed Reed, too.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, Hyde.
Oh, Hyde was knocking
for us.
Hyde ain't playing.
Yeah, man.
All that smiling?
Uh-uh.
He ain't playing.
Man, Hyde was talking.
That smile ain't mean nothing.
Hey.
Nah, man.
Nah.
Look, I just wanted
to have some fun,
catch my touchdown,
celebrate with my teammates, but y'all
not finna come in here and think y'all gonna punk anybody on the
Broncos. That wasn't gonna happen.
Nope. I don't know
what y'all think now y'all can do
that at. Roquan
Smith was at his presser last night saying
you get to say whatever you want when you win.
Donovan Smith trolled him from the Chiefs
locker room saying, look at this sad ass
talking all that bleep. He gonna cry.
He gonna cry.
Ocho, you know how
it is. You know
what happens to the victor goes to spoils.
Yeah. I get to say whatever
I want to say for a year and ain't nothing
you can do about it. Yep.
Not until September 9th.
Ain't nothing you can do about that because we put y until September 9th. Ain't nothing you can do about that
because we put y'all out to play.
We're going to the Super Bowl.
Because I remember we beat the Packers
in the Super Bowl
and then played them in the regular season.
And they talking about we're going to get.
But get back what?
Bro, we got rings on our fingers.
Y'all ain't going to get nothing back
for a preseason game.
Yeah.
It was the third preseason game, Ocho.
So, you know, we we're gonna play at least three
quarters quarters yeah especially yeah beat the ass again let them know the first time wasn't a
fluke yeah I wanted to take it there yeah one thing about the Ravens every player handled their
loss with Grace yeah every every player handed a loss with Grace nobody made no excuses the mistakes
that certain players made they took accountability for it I like that they handled that loss with grace. Nobody made no excuses. The mistakes that certain players made, they took
accountability for it.
They handled that loss with grace.
Every last one of them.
You win some, you lose
some. They played
better than us that day
and you move on. That's what
football... That's why people
love football so much.
Because it's the suddenness in which it can all be over.
And I don't care how.
You can be 14-3.
You can be 15-2.
You can be 18-0.
And it's a blink of an eye and 60 minutes is over.
Depending on how you play that day.
That's all that matters.
No matter what your record is.
Ocho, I don't know whose side you on on this but I don't know
if you heard it
Nicki Minaj releases
Bigfoot amid the feud
feud with Megan Thee Stallion
hmm
and hold on check this out
Ocho it's the rap it girls at each
other throat Nicki Minaj released
Bigfoot today said the internet
ablaze Bigfoot is a
diss track in retaliation to Meg Stallion's recent release uh release uh single title
yes who side you on who side I'm on yeah who you got listen Nicki Minaj is one of the greatest
female lyricists of all time. Yeah. Of all time.
There are other artists that are good, you know, lyrically, that I like listening to.
I like listening to all of them.
I support everybody.
Now, as far as this battle goes, Nicki Minaj is the queen of rap, if I'm not mistaken, right?
Yeah.
If I'm not mistaken.
That's what the title is.
And, Basie basically we've been talking
about we've been talking about football for a while we talk about body of work and and and elite
nicki minaj is in that in that category of having the body of work having the resume
to be the queen of rap if i'm not mistaken correct yeah you know so um i'm i'm i'm not and i'm not on
the side i think what they're doing, maybe going through,
maybe there might be some stuff
I wouldn't touch on
as far as when it comes to dissing,
but dissing is a part of rap.
It's always been a part of rap.
It's not new.
And now we have two of
one of the greatest artists of all time
going at it with one of the new upcoming artists
that is also good at what she does.
I think it's great for the game of rap.
I think it is.
I don't really know what started it, Ocho.
I thought they were cool.
Now, you know when it come to women now,
you never know what started it.
They be catty, they be catty.
Yeah, they be real catty now.
You be real.
Listen, girls go on a trip,
as friends, it be 6-7.
When they come back, nobody friends no more.
So you never know what's going on.
About a dude?
See, guys, I mean dude see guys I mean maybe
I mean I've been on trips
I ain't about to lose
no friendship
about no female
okay
I'm like oh we see
at the same time
first come first serve
you beat me to it
you get the digits
you do what you do
I ain't mad at you
females seem to be
get upset about guys
and fall out
and I'm not saying
that's the case here like
i said i need to i need more of the backdrop because i think i thought nikki was on megan
song was on a track with me listen i i've seen them do an interview together i've seen them i
think might have been on live together a long time ago obviously you know my kids my kids uh my
daughters love all the rap girls.
So that's they help me.
They keep me abreast.
On what's going on and what new songs are coming out.
So one thing I do, I support every artist.
I'm going to listen to it.
I'm going to stream it.
I'm going to buy it.
You know, I'm going to listen to it.
And I'm not sure at what point this went south. I saw some of the insos going back and forth on Twitter.
Obviously, Nicki has the barbs and Megan Thee Stallion has her fans.
And I think sometimes when it comes to-
I think Megan's the hot girls, right?
Because Megan had the hot girl summer.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
The hot girl summer.
I mean, Nicki got Barbz.
Megan got hot girl summer.
You know, this goes way back because actually, it was, for me, I think
LL and Kool Moe D.
Right. Wait, they was going at it?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, LL and Kool Moe D.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they was going back and forth.
And then, you know,
obviously, Ether with
Nas and Jay-Z. Oh, yeah, Jay-Z and Nas.
That was a good one. Who was that? Cannabis
and LL was going at it.
Remy Ma
had the hardest diss for a female.
That's what, oh, Ice Cube,
No Vaseline. No Vaseline,
yeah. With him and NWA.
Yeah, NWA, yeah.
I heard Cube on a thing
the other day said he had No Vaseline 2
ready to go. But they didn't
come back and say he had that thing loaded.
Boy, when Remy Mark came for, I think
she came for Nicki.
That was a good one.
Nicki is a lyrical
genius. She's a lyrical
genius. And again, like I said,
her resume and her body of work speaks
for herself. And
when it comes to dissing i like
when they keep it on when they keep it musically yeah in the street no beast if we go if we're
gonna go at it let's go at it what will we do best rapping yeah uh i don't know what what you
think the best diss track is ether Ether by Nas No Vaseline No Ether
Ether was phenomenal
was phenomenal
Ether was phenomenal
and obviously there have been some other good ones
about the history of
rap in general
but that goddamn Ether man
Nas
Oh
I forgot about Tupac yeah man yeah yeah yeah first off you claim you
came hey that that might be the greatest that might that might be the greatest you came to
be a player but uh yeah hey that might be the greatest line
of any diss track
ever
how do you come back from that
like think about it
how do you come back from that
if somebody say
how do you come back from that
like that
oh you talking about
with Pac
came for Biggie
yeah how do you say
yeah yeah
man shit
you hit my who
my what
oh okay it's up and stuck now it's up and stuck but listen How do you say? Yeah, yeah. Man, shit. You hit my who? My what?
Oh, okay.
It's up and stuck now.
It's up and stuck.
But listen, I like Nicki.
I like Meg.
I support both of them.
I like what both of them have done.
I kind of like his.
I mean, I had listened all the way through. I had listened to him.
But what I heard, Meg liked that. No, no, Nicki. I mean, I like Nicki too. I like Nicki to them. But what I heard, man, man, like that.
No, no, nigga, nigga.
I mean, I like nigga too.
Nigga like that too, man.
I'm not that big.
I don't listen to rap like I once did.
Right, right, right, right, right.
So, you know, I catch wind of it.
I say, okay, let me see what you're putting down.
I think it's good for the game.
I'm picking up what you're putting down.
I think it's good for the game.
I think it's good for the rap game.
I think it's good. Now, I'm not a con you're putting down. I think it's good for the game. I think it's good for the rap game. I think it's good.
Now, I'm not a connoisseur of rap,
but listen, as long as it stays at the pin,
keep it at the pin.
If you keep it at the pin
and you keep going back and forth,
let's go.
Oh, yeah, Pusha T,
when Pusha T came for Drake.
Oh, for Drake?
Pusha T, Pusha came.
Wait, Meek Mill and Drake?
Wasn't Meek Mill and Drake
went at it too, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Meek Mill and Drake. Wasn't Meek Mill and Drake one out of two, right?
Yeah, yeah. We
done had some good ones. Just keep it
at the pin, though. As long as it stays at the pin,
it doesn't go outside of that, outside
of your respective craft.
Let your pin do your work for you.
That's the battle we want.
You know what, Ojo? We got to give a congratulations
to Jess Hilarious.
She's the new co-host of The Breakfast Club.
Hey.
With DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha God.
Okay.
So congratulations to her.
Congratulations, Jess.
Y'all bring me on.
Man, look here.
I'll tell you what I didn't know.
Look, I know she's a comedian.
Yeah, she's just funny now.
Yeah.
Her body ain't no laughing matter, though.
I ain't know she was like that.
What?
Her body?
Who?
Like, body, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, y body on body on body. That's hilarious. What? You better find... Ain't nothing funny about that.
Boy, I ain't know that.
Wait.
I'll take my time with you.
Huh?
Man. Hold on, hold on.
Don't get me in trouble now.
I ain't...
Hell, I might get my damn self
in trouble, you.
I ain't looking.
Man.
I did not know...
Man.
I ain't know.
I did not know.
Okay, let me see, you know.
Yeah.
Because I had Country Wayne on.
And they were dating.
I said, hold on, wait a minute.
I said, hey, maybe somebody
photoshopped that.
So I got two phones, Ocho.
I pull up a different site.
I dropped them down.
Wait, she like that?
Nah, I don't give a bullshit.
Man, I'm saying like something too, like, hey, like, hey, like Kyrie dribbling two basketballs.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
I ain't know that.
Hell yeah.
I ain't know that, but let me, let me get off this topic, man.
Yeah, get off, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I ain't trying to, don't, you trying to, I ain I'm sorry. I only know why
I brought you into this.
Listen, we can talk.
We can talk.
I ain't trying to stay
on it too long
because I don't like
the doghouse.
Hey, I'm about to
have to call him.
You know what I'm saying?
They sent the thing
right to the house.
They told me,
I ain't going back
to the drugstore no more.
I'm going to send the
head of the thing
right to the house.
And the postman,
you better not
open my mail either. I like where to send a head of come right to the house. And the postman, you better not open my mail either.
I like,
I like where you're going
with this though.
You know,
stay with me now.
Just,
just,
just single for you?
Nah,
nah,
nah,
I don't think,
I don't know.
I don't,
like I said,
Ocho,
I didn't know it.
Honestly.
Yeah.
I'm going to be one up
prior to like,
she was on the,
the breakfast club.
I didn't,
I didn't know.
I heard that she was on
Cam News.
Right. Pod. So I really, Ocho i really oh man you know i'm so i'm so deep into what i got going on right right right right right
have a chance to see what's going on with anybody else listen baby stay with me now because this
might be a good thing this might be a good thing because you know she caught your eye she caught
she caught your eye so yeah you know i can i can do my due diligence on my end
and
nah we good Ocho
nah
nah
I'm just
you know what look
don't be scared
don't be scared now
no no no
I like
look
I'll give people their props
right right right
so for me
hey I think
I think she's
she's a curvy woman
yes yes
it works
that's what you like too now
don't be scared now.
Come on now.
No, no.
You know, ain't nobody scared.
Never scared.
Yeah, yeah.
Never scared.
I'm about it, about it.
She about it, about it.
I'm about it, about it.
We about it, about it.
You know what I'm saying?
You ain't just hitting the master beat, did you?
Yeah, I'm about it, about it.
We about it, about it. Hey, did you? Yeah, you're bowed and bowed.
We bowed and bowed.
Hey, everybody be bowed and bowed, man.
You better stop playing, man.
Bad on y'all.
Come on.
Jess, I know you're going to see this, Jess.
No, Jess, we ain't going to see you.
We're going to edit this out.
And y'all better not clip it in the chat,
because you know y'all notorious for that.
Y'all quick to clip something and put it up.
Man, look what I'm saying.
Look what I'm saying.
Yeah, it's a good thing,
though. It's a good thing. It's good to give somebody flowers. You know, when you appreciate something,
you see it. It's okay. It's okay to show
love. It's okay. But, you know,
I'm going to take it where you really want to go
since you ain't going to go there. I'll hook you up,
now. What happened?
I'm going to hook you up. Nah, nah,
Ocho. I'm good, Ocho. Nah, yeah, yeah.
You say you're good, but I can read through all that, now. You read through all that, Ocho? Yeah, I read through, yeah, I read through all that. I'm okay. Nah, nah, Ocho. I'm good, Ocho. Nah, yeah, yeah. You say you good, but I can read through all that now.
You read through all that, Ocho?
Yeah, I read through all that.
I'm good, Ocho.
Hook it up!
Bad Ocho, man.
You out your mind, bro.
Bad. Listen. I know, I know, I know we're on the public platform.
We got people watching.
You don't really want, you know, you want people in your business, but hey, I got you.
I got you.
Ojo, a Los Angeles woman clings to a speeding getaway car after her french bulldog was stolen
stolen there's a wild video that shows a woman moments that a woman clung to the hood of a
driving car in downtown los angeles after thieves smashed her french bulldog ali zacarias was
sitting outside a whole foods when she was approached by a woman who took her dog named Onyx, ran and got into a car being driven by another person.
Zacarias chased a woman, jumped onto the hood of a car, a white four-door Kia Forte, as they fled the area.
I was like, I'm not letting go of this car.
So I just held on to the windshield wiper.
Before I knew it, we were driving down the block, picking picking up speed and I was freaking out for my life
suddenly. She was able to hold on to the front of the
hood until the driver swerved
and she fell off at 9th Street and Grand
Avenue. She's not seriously
injured, but honestly still missing.
I'd have did the same thing.
I don't play by my dog.
Yeah, yeah. Listen, that's instinct.
That's instinct. Of course.
The same as kids. I think the
value in which we bestow in our children is somewhat the same as when it comes to our dogs.
I'm not a dog owner now, but I always was. Obviously, I told you I can't deal with the
pain of losing another animal again. I can't hurt. But instinct kicks in automatically. You don't think straight.
If anything happens, you just react.
So I understand her sentiments
on why she did what she did.
But again, I'm thinking about your life, mama.
Yeah.
I'm thinking about your life.
You don't even think about it, Ojo.
Just like that lady ran out the house
and pushed that bear that was trying to get her dog.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't even think, that's just instinct.
Right, right. You trying to get, you trying to
hurt the dog, boom, I'm gone.
I've seen like other countries
that this man, what we
talked about on the show,
I think it was a, what was it?
A python.
But anyway, he had gotten the
house and had the cat. That man got up
took the cat yeah yeah man hey
people see everybody people hurt you about their dog man yeah they have people that like that's a
pet it's really not they don't look at the dog like a dog it's a pet and it's almost like a child
because studies show that when people lose an animal they grieve as if they lost a loved one. Yeah, same. Exact same.
And that's why I can't have another
dog. I refuse.
I refuse. You had me
crying.
Early episodes when we first started,
you had me literally sitting here crying
just hearing the story about
your dog. So if I'm crying
about a dog that I didn't even own
and all you're do in telling a story
about losing them right imagine how i felt when i lost mine when i was growing up oh you remember
uh uh who was that uh lady gaga somebody kidnapped somebody like yeah that was on the news
yeah her sister dog walker and took like three fridge, two or three fridge, two.
They shot the dog walker and took her two fridge
bulldog. Wait, she got those dogs
back though, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, because
it was an inside job. The lady that brought
them back for the reward was a part of
the crew that kidnapped the dog. Dumb-dumbs.
Right. Trying to
get the money.
That should have been a dumb-dumb
of the week, the day award.
But I'm not
surprised the lady reacted like she did.
That's why I don't really take my... I used
to take my dogs when I had the
big dog in the car with them.
Because ain't nobody going to approach the car with the big dog.
Now I don't have the big.
I leave them at home because ain't no sense. I'm nobody going to approach the car with the big dog. Now, I don't have the big, I leave them at home
because ain't no sense.
I'm not going to entice someone
to break my windows and take the dog.
Even though I don't have Frenchies
and that seems to be the number one theft.
Small dogs,
but Frenchies are the number one
because people are playing upwards of
$20,000, $25,000 for those dogs.
Man, listen man, I still don't see,
I don't see how y'all do it.
I don't see how they do it.
I understand the importance of dogs.
I'm not sure what warrants them
to be such a high price, you know,
but that's, that's,
everybody has their thing.
I have, I have nothing against it.
You just know how I am
when it comes to spending,
especially abnormal amounts
of money like that.
Yeah.
No, you wouldn't, you wouldn't fit.
What's the most you spend for a dollar?
Me?
Yeah.
Man, listen.
I'm not even going to say I'm lying.
I bought my daughter, my oldest.
She might be watching.
Shot A.
I bought her a Yorkie years ago
from a homeboy.
We call him Boo Boo.
I bought a Yorkie. I don't know
where he stole it from. I got it for $200.
Yeah.
Got it for $200. Goddamn good.
That dog probably meow.
That dog probably meow.
He bark a lot.
Look, not a miniature, not a
teacup Yorkie, just regular size Yorkie.
Yeah.
For $200. I wasn't paying no $5. $5 who? Man, you know, I got people, I got boosters, all know, regular size. Yeah. For 200. Yeah, I wasn't paying no $5.
$5 who?
Man, you know, I got people.
I got boosters, all that, especially during the holiday.
If you need something, let me know.
I got people hook you up now.
Yeah.
A man robbed a bank for $1 to intentionally be arrested to receive free medical care in
prison.
A North Carolina man named James Verone, 59, lost both of his jobs and his health insurance.
Verone went to his neighborhood bank and gave the cashier a note requesting $1.
I'll be sitting right over there in the chair waiting for the police.
He informed her and he carried out his word.
He later came clean about robbing the bank in order to receive free medical care while in prison.
Verone has been receiving medical care while in jail since his arrest.
He was disappointed to hear
that he will only spend 12 months in prison
because he had hoped to get a three-year sentence
which would give him more time
to heal from his illness.
That's bad, Ocho.
That's very bad.
That's bad. That's sad.
That's very bad and that's very sad.
Who's responsible for that?
Government?
Government? Government?
I don't know, Ocho,
if he's...
This is how I am. If you served
in the military, you should
never, ever have to worry about
medical or getting a job.
Whatever you come back, whatever you're
qualified to do, you're going to get a job.
Somebody going to give you a job. We're going to
make sure of that.
Because if you're going to put your life
on the line, domestically
or foreign, you
deserve, that's what we
as citizens of America and the
government, that's the least we can
do for the service that you provided this country.
But listen, our healthcare system
is ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
And it's been that way
for a very long time.
It's been this way
for a very long time.
The fact that someone
would rather risk their freedom
in understanding
that I can get the help
and the work that I need
and the medicine I need
inside incarcerated
so I'd rather go to jail
just so I can get what I need
to get back healthy.
And then you're mad you're only in jail for 12 months?
But you prefer three years because you know you can get the health care that you need?
Right.
Come on, man.
That's the system.
The system is messed up for somebody to want to do that.
Right.
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Oh, Joe. Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho.
I don't even know how to read you quick.
You look stressed.
There was an
American
Airlines flight
that it was delayed
or diverted.
It was delayed so theverted. It was delayed
so the passenger could be removed
because of excessive flatulence.
I told you.
You were passing gas?
Yes.
And they had to get him up off there.
And you think I'm going to let somebody
do that in my house?
Yeah, but that's different though.
No, you will go out to the bathroom.
That's your partner.
No, stay there. Light a you will go out to the bathroom. That's your partner. No, stay there, light a candle,
go over to the toilet,
and flush,
go down, and light a candle.
Don't you bring your... No, sirree.
Yeah, that's
real? Yes!
How can someone pass
gas that much on a flight
where they have to take the person off the goddamn
flight yeah like what did you eat i don't know what he what's what's in your what's in your body
they said you got to get up off here bro that's that's crazy when you even think about it but
you got you got to you got to get past that that's gonna do it life if you have a partner
you can't have your partner stomach hurting
because she's scared
to pass gas around you.
You can't do that.
Well, I ain't going to have
my stomach hurting smelling it.
So I guess
one person can have
a stomach ache
and it ain't going to be me.
One thing about it,
when you in love,
when you in love,
when you're in love,
all the things
and rules you have
go out the window.
They go out the door.
No, they don't.
I know
who you... Listen. You bust tail in my house,
you going out the window.
That's what's going to happen.
You ain't going to do that.
I will get you
a coat, get you a purse, and say,
okay, you can be
excused.
I know who you want. I know who you need.
Hey,
don't do that, Ocho need Don't do that Ocho
Don't do that
I ain't gonna do that
I'm just saying
I'm just saying
I mean she might be the one
She funny too
You know
I know you like comedians
Oh yeah
I like funny
I like funny
Yeah yeah yeah
Yeah yeah yeah
Just yeah yeah yeah
Just funny too now
Nah man
There you go man
Oh no no no no
I'm just saying
She got a boyfriend
Look at the ass She got a boyfriend She got a boyfriend? Look at me, Ash.
Ash said she got a boyfriend.
She got a boyfriend.
No, she don't.
Ash, I know she don't.
Ash, you're lying.
Ash, you're lying.
Jess probably watching.
Jess, I know you watching.
You ain't got no dude.
Jess, she probably watching with her man.
Who?
Who her man is?
I don't know what her name is.
Who her man is?
Ash, better tell me.
What's her name, Ash?
Ash, look at him right now.
Yeah, see, if it ain't pop up like that,
nope, that ain't him.
It shouldn't take that long.
Yeah, and plus,
Country Wayne was on my podcast.
What'd that mean?
I can't back-do that man.
He ain't back-do.
Country, he moved on with his life.
He got somebody new.
Nah.
He got somebody new. Listen got somebody new listen don't
miss your blessing don't miss your blessing now worry about we're worried about what happened in
the past don't nobody care about the past don't nobody care about the past jess is available
and if ash is still looking at if ash is still looking for i ain't available you're available
i'm gonna make i'm gonna make sure I hook it up
Jess I know you're gonna see this
Unk kind of shy
but we gonna work with him
you can't find his name
what is it
I know somebody in the chat know
who in the chat know
I know y'all know everything chat
they don't know
huh oh they told my bitch be nasty available I know y'all know everything chat they don't know huh
oh they talking about
this be nasty available
hey
you scared of that boy
you scared of that
hey listen
you can
can you swim
yeah man
backstroke all day
nah you ain't ready
for that boy
you ain't ready for that
you about
you gonna need
nah you need some
scuba gear you need some scuba gear.
You need some scuba gear
from Miss Nasty, boy.
Hey, that's a whole different level.
You hear me?
Huh?
That's a different level, boy.
Yeah, it is.
It is, Ocho.
Yeah, I ain't...
You ain't ready for that, boy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm...
I get nervous.
I just went to the dive, y'all.
I got me a scuba suit.
You do? I got me a scuba suit and a snorkel. Okay. I read nervous. I just went to the dive, y'all. I got me a scuba suit. You do?
I got me a scuba suit and a snorkel.
Okay.
I'm ready.
Hey.
You ain't ready for that, boy.
You ain't ready for that.
What'd I do?
What'd I do, OJ?
You ain't ready for that, boy.
You got a scuba suit and a snorkel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't need no snorkel, but You ain't ready for that, but it's all right. You got a scuba suit and a snorkel. Yeah, yeah.
You don't need no snorkel, but you
better be ready to deep dive. You better be ready to deep dive.
Yeah, man. And no snorkel.
Yeah. Make sure you got some oxygen.
I can pre-dive up to
about 100 feet. I'll pre-dive
up to 100 feet. Well, you like that?
Yeah, man.
Yeah, that's what they told me.
They told me you was like that too when you were young.
Slow my heart rate down?
I already got a rest of heart rate about 50 beats,
50, 52 beats a minute.
Slow that thing down to the faultest.
Right.
Yeah, but you's a professional.
I thought you knew.
You ain't know that, I do.
You's a professional.
Oh, you know that?
Hey, I already know when they see you boy coming out of the room,
would I do that right now?
It's all in the bracket.
It's all in the bracket.
Okay.
Don't forget that diamond there.
Yep.
Them C-tabs.
See them C-tabs, they stay in your system three days.
But you know all of the stuff.
The C-tab.
Three days.
I think it's better.
C-I-A-L-I-S?
C-Tab.
Let me write that down real quick.
Hold on.
Ooh.
C-Tab.
Where I get C-Tabs at? Oh. where i get c tabs at oh yeah she dating she dating uh aaron johnson the entrepreneur entrepreneur
a who entrepreneur she dating the entrepreneur yep man we'll be we'll beat that we'll beat that
we'll beat him up man we'll beat him up no we're gonna do that Ocho
them C tabs they yell
tell me where to get them
drugs though or call him
wait how much
y'all need to promote
y'all need to sponsor me and Ocho
we'll do ad reads and everything
how much they cost
I don't know how much they cost
chat how much the C-Tab?
You can get it. You want the real ones or
you want the generic?
They're going to try to give you the
generics. Right.
How much is generic? The generic is a little cheaper.
But they give you to do the same thing,
right?
She say,
you can take that C,
you can take the C-Tab 5 milligrams once a day. I don't know, but I heard that's said you can take that C you can take the C tabs 5mg once a day
I don't know but I heard that's
what you can do I was reading that on the internet
you know I go on the internet
it sounds like you're talking from experience
I don't got no experience Ocho
but I'm just saying you can take 5mg
daily and so it's in your system
okay how much
I need a price and the thing is 5 milligrams daily. And so it's in your system. Okay, how much?
I need a price.
And the thing is,
Ocho, you eat all you want to.
You don't have no...
Because a lot of times,
you know,
but see,
what you could do,
I heard what you could do
is take your little baby aspirin with it.
It thin your blood.
It would shoot right to the top.
Well, you sound like
a professor.
There you are.
Hey, you know,
you're more of a street farmer.
You know, I dibble and dabble
and see what the cops should work.
You know, I be in the lab
cooking it up.
Right, right, right.
In order to know the stuff
you talk about,
you have to actually take it
so you can be able to explain
how it works.
No, no, no, no no no no i heard
you know i'll be in these chats these chats be talking about right right well how the chat ain't
told me how much it costs yet how much it cost oh i think somebody said uh like for generics or 45
45 45 i ain't bad i can work with That ain't bad. I can work with that. That ain't bad. But you got that five,
you know,
they got five,
they got five,
10,
and 20.
Yeah,
five millimeter,
that's all I need.
Five millimeter.
That's the daily,
you take that daily,
but that old big boy,
that old big boy,
that's where you want to draw that hammer.
Yeah.
Where you want to be Thor,
where you want to be Thor for a night.
Yeah.
And hit that thing in the earth shape.
You know what,
I'm going to wait till Valentine's.
I'm with you,
I'm with you,
right. Hey, you put
that 20 milligram Valentine's
or turn it into St. Patrick's Day. That's how long
it'll last for you.
Hey, listen, when I'm done, she's gonna be
green.
Yeah, for sure.
Hey,
you could have like, hold on.
Gordon and Claus is looking
up on the bed. Who in here helping you do all that? Baby, You could have like, oh Lord and call this
Happy you do all that baby. This is me. It's just me ain't nobody here. That's just me
It got to be two or three of y'all up here do it cuz I know way the woman did it not for no hour study
God damn
Huh? I went 30 I Huh? I went 30?
I told you, Ocho.
I went 30?
You put that 20,
get that ass within your system
with that 20.
Yeah.
But you need an ice pack
to bring him down.
You know what I'm saying?
You have swelling in your ankle,
you have a sprained ankle.
Right, right, right, right, right.
You better put that ice pack on him.
Yeah, I ain't never done like that.
I ain't never done that.
And listen.
Listen.
What I, what I.
20 minutes.
I give you 20 minutes and two minute intervals.
With a break in between.
That's it.
I give you 20 minutes and two minute intervals at 90 miles an hour.
In 20 minute intervals. But listen. 90 miles an hour. In 20 minute intervals.
But listen,
90 miles an hour in a car.
God dang.
Run into a wall,
it does damage.
Yeah.
20 minutes,
2 minute intervals
at 90 miles an hour,
that's all I got for you.
That's all you,
but that's enough.
That's all I got for you.
All that extra shit,
I ain't got nothing to prove.
I'm 56. I'm a sniper. I'm trying to get in, I got for you. All that extra shit, I ain't got none to prove. I'm 56.
I'm a sniper.
I'm trying to get in.
I'm trying to get out.
Ocho, I'm a sniper.
I got one bullet.
Yes, sir.
And I don't miss.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't miss either.
You see how many kills I got?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Shit.
Oh, shit. Yeah. Shit. Oh, shit.
Yeah.
20 minutes.
Them yellow, them C-tabs?
Yeah.
I'm going to do my homework on the C-tab now.
I'm going to see if I can get them a little cheaper.
Like I said, that five milligram, you can take them daily.
That's what I heard you can't.
I don't know.
I'm going to work on it.
I'm going to work on it.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, but I can i came you got on the plane that man
knew his stomach was hurt he got on the plane dropping him like that at least i hope you know
what happened you know what happened to him he didn't eat something he had no business eating
and didn't realize he was gonna have that type of effect on his stomach and got them got the
bowel movement got them bowels moving on yeah. Yeah, they just bubbly. Yeah.
But the fact that it was that bad where they had to remove you from a plane
let you know it was...
How embarrassing must that be?
Very. Very.
Very, because you know some of the person sitting next to him
had to snitch.
Yeah.
Person sitting next to him had to snitch.
I would have said, man, I would have said,
get your
man Ocho
now that you say that Ocho
man
I got so mad
I mean I laughed
but I was mad
right
man you know I called
I called this place
and I got had a
take out
so the guy was sitting at the bar
and I walk up
after a while I smell something
right right right
he look at me.
Was that you or me?
I say, motherfucker, it was you.
He talk about, I thought so, but I wasn't sure.
I say, man, you nasty.
How you?
A grown man?
Yes.
He gonna look at me, talk about, was that me or you?
I say, man, that was you.
He say, I thought so, but I wasn't sure.
Man, that's something.
How you not sure? My little kids
do that, man. My little kids be doing that, man.
Ain't no grown man doing that,
playing like that. Come on, now.
He tripping. Man, and on
the elevator. Now, you know you can't do it on
the elevator because just your look,
you do that on the elevator, the elevator
going to stop on the next floor. Who you going to blame it on? that on the elevator the elevator gonna stop on the next floor who you gonna blame it on you on the rock you on the elevator by yourself
and that's the best that smell you know that smell linger now the thing gonna stay for a
little bit about two or three yeah the thing i mean that thing be having michael jordan hang
time for that thing up there for at least five six six seconds. Man, please.
Hey, y'all.
Man, they be playing too much. Man, people play too much in public. I don't play
like that. Right, right.
You right. You right.
Jalen Dorsey said, oh, it's my 23rd birthday.
December 30th.
My girlfriend got me tickets
to the NBA All-Star Game.
We planned a big trip
because I'm from Georgia too.
Man, I've been on them diamonds since.
Oh, Cho, also,
using my whip treatment chair,
but I add the sprinkles.
Ooh.
Y'all do it too much.
Y'all do it too much.
Hey, them sprinkles,
that's a nice touch.
I just don't like the sprinkles
because it get caught
in between the teeth.
And it mess up the rhythm of where you trying to get to.
Ocho, let me ask you this.
Is that something that you do at a hotel?
Because you're not finna mess up my bed with that bull jive.
Who?
Oh, nah, listen.
The whipped cream and the chocolate and all that kind of stuff.
Oh, I ain't even tell you.
The baby oil, too?
No, you go to Target.
You go to Target. You buy a shower curtain. Buy a small. You ain't got to you The baby oil too No you go to Target You go to Target
You buy a shower curtain
Buy a small
You ain't got to get a big shower curtain
Get a shower curtain
Lay it over the bed
Lay it over the bed
Take the baby oil
Put the baby oil
All over the shower curtain
Yeah
You feel me?
Yeah
I'm feeling what you're putting down
What I do
I take towels
And I put towels Around the edge of the shower curtain
so it can't seep onto the bed, onto the mattress.
Because I got a good comforter.
I ain't wasting my money and buying a new comforter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got them $1,200 sheets.
Go ahead, go ahead.
Now you know what I'm talking about.
Boom, after that, boom, I get my old lady.
Take all that shit off.
Baby oil everywhere.
You get to work.
Slip and slide.
You feel me?
Whipped cream.
Boom.
Bend that over.
Whipped cream.
Cherry.
You know, and you play.
I don't like to be slide.
I like to have shoes on.
I like traction.
Yeah, yeah.
No, you can't handle traction. Can't handle shoes on? No, you don't need no shoes on. I like traction. Yeah, yeah. No, you can't handle traction.
Can't handle shoes on?
No, you don't need no shoes on for this.
Because even if you're at the end of the band,
you know I got a sleigh band.
I got a sleigh band.
You know, I like to have a sleigh band.
I need traction.
Right.
Okay, I see what you mean.
You see what I'm saying?
I don't show.
You know, I don't show.
I be like this here.
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like I'm in the starting block.
I'm like, you say, boom, bam. Right. Yeah, okay. I see where you're going. Yeah, I know how we do it yeah. Like, I'm in the starting block. I'm like, you say, boom, bam.
Right.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, I'll have me do it.
You see what I'm saying?
You need leverage.
Yes.
You need leverage.
Yes.
That's what I'm talking about, Ocho.
That's what I'm talking.
Right, right, right, right.
Well, see,
the way I was blessed
from the man upstairs,
leverage wasn't really
a part of my repertoire.
So I'm able to work
from all type of angles
and all type of different circumferences.
That don't even make no sense,
but you see what I'm putting down.
Yeah, I see where you're going though, Cho.
Yeah, I see where you're going.
Just pick it up now.
That's all I need.
Just pick it up.
Yeah, I need traction.
So you know, when you put them in the slingshot,
you put them in that slingshot.
Yeah, that slingshot, Cho.
Yeah.
Oh, I know.
It can't nobody move.
Ain't nobody moving, but me. I'm with you when you're right. Yeah, I'm? Yeah. Oh, no. Ain't nobody move. Ain't nobody move with me.
I'm with you when you're right.
Yeah, I'm with you when you're right.
Damn, I'm doing worldwide.
Slingshot.
Man, Ojo, that's not wrong with you, Ojo.
Listen, I'm just telling you
my life stories and my life experiences.
It worked for me.
It don't work for everybody, but it worked for me.
AbLab Studios.
Vic Elite, Warren Moon Elite, Marino Elite.
Only one Super Bowl appearance among them.
Marino.
League MVP.
5,000 yards in the 80s.
Well, that's unheard of.
Nobody else even came close to that.
50, 48 touchdowns passing.
Look at his body of work.
Look at Marino.
Look at Moon.
How many Pro Bowls?
Marino, how many Pro Bowls?
How many times did they lead the team to the playoffs?
There's more into it.
See, y'all just look at, okay, Super Bowl.
But that's not the only measure.
You can still be great and not win the Super Bowl.
Super Bowl, yeah.
But we're talking about great tits.
That EST is what separates.
Great tits.
You can be great in a sport without winning a championship.
But I believe for you to be in the discussion, EST,
now, look,
I mean, many people say
Barry Bonds is the greatest baseball player
they ever saw. Because
he would see one pitch a night
and he would hit it hard. And
generally, it was going out of the park.
Yeah.
Seven MVPs, batting average.
I mean, he was sitting 360, I think, towards the end of his career.
To each his own.
I mean, people say, you know, there was enhancements that were involved.
But I think Barry Barnes was a Hall of Famer before he even stepped foot
because three MVPs in Pittsburgh, the Silver Sluggers, the Gold Gloves.
But that's another story.
We'll talk about that later.
Dan Boring said, why do people claim the league is rigged?
It's just upset sports better than fans of losing teams.
Are there any actual arguments in favor of the league being rigged?
No.
Like you said, there's people.
Oh, Taylor Swift showed up.
Oh, the league.
Kansas City getting all the calls.
Mm-hmm.
Can't rig that.
Can't rig it.
It's impossible.
There's too many moving parts for it to be rigged.
Exactly.
Too many moving parts.
So. There's too many moving parts for it to be rigged. Exactly. Too many moving parts. So, all in the soul, top three football players I've ever seen.
Ocho.
The game, give their all, Kraft, without reproach as a maniac.
Tom Brady, Ray Lewis, and Shattersharp.
These three did not cheat the game in preparation, execution, or sacrifice.
Whoa, whoa.
Ocho? The hell? Ocho, you already said that's not what you did. These three did not cheat the game in preparation execution of sacrifice. Whoa, whoa.
Ocho, the hell?
Ocho, you already said that's not what you did because you didn't eat the way you're supposed to.
That's a part of it.
What?
You didn't eat the way you're supposed to.
That's a part of it. There's no rules that say you have to eat certain things.
There ain't no rules that say you got to train either.
Ain't no rules.
But I trained.
Okay, then.
I ain't right.
No, you didn't.
Well, I'm in the list anyway.
I'm putting myself in there.
All in the soil.
Thank you so much.
Look, I've been around.
Look, I can just imagine
because I know what it takes
to reach a certain level
of greatness.
When you reach the level
that Tom Brady has reached,
I understand you have to go
above and beyond.
And so I have the utmost respect.
I was around Ray
earning his career. Offered him a little advice the utmost respect. I was around Ray earning his career,
offered him a little advice, some insight.
I take no credit for what Ray was able to do.
I just told him how I thought he should train
and the approach he should take
and some of his preparation.
But he was always unbelievably immensely talented.
He was a sponge.
He wanted to learn.
He wanted to know.
And so it was a privilege for me just to be around a young Ray
and to see the maturation, to see when I first met him,
how he was, to see after I retired from the game
and to see what he had become,
I definitely felt like a big brother.
Seeing my little brother grow up,
and I was so proud of what he was able to become.
But all in the soil.
I appreciate that.
Campaign Thomas,
my fiance and I have an amazing relationship.
Surprisingly, a major point of contention
has been my lack of social skills.
I grew up,
I grew out of my speech impediment,
but it caused me to be shy.
Any advice?
I grew out of my speech impediment, but it caused me to be shy.
Any advice?
I was really never shy.
I'm kind of an introvert.
I don't really go a whole lot of places. I kind of like to myself, but I don't really.
I get it.
I get what he's saying, because early on he had a speech impediment he didn't
want people to know that he had it so he wouldn't say anything right and so even though he's he's
out of that he's grown out of that he still feels that that that anxiety being around people and
having to talk to people and the only way that you can get out of it is to do it.
You got to talk.
Go somewhere.
I mean, you can't be around family because that's obviously.
But when you go to events with your wife,
excuse me, your fiance, just strike up a conversation.
Talk about something that you like talking about,
that you feel comfortable talking about.
And then gradually branch out.
Me, I feel like I can walk in any room and hold a conversation.
Obviously, people want to talk about sports
when they see me, but we talk
about a lot of things
when I go places
or I meet people. I think that's
the biggest thing that you have to do
is that you just have to find something that you're
comfortable talking about first and then branch out from there but congratulations to uh your fiancee
uh seems like you're the the introvert and she's the ex the extrovert or she's kind of outgoing
and he's kind of introverted and but that works that works for them.
I like that.
I talk too damn much.
I talk to every goddamn body.
That's my problem.
I know you do.
You do.
Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy asks,
hey Uncle Nojo,
which is easier,
asking for help
or asking for forgiveness?
Probably help.
Probably help. probably help probably help
I'd assume
I haven't been in a situation
or in circumstances where I actually
need to ask for help but I think
oh I ask for help easy
yeah
I go in the store right now excuse me can you tell me where
the such and such is located
I walk straight in the store right now excuse me can you tell me where the such and such is located I don't be looking I walk straight in the store
I don't even look
I walk into CVS I walk into Target
can you tell me where the such and such is
I think she's
talking about help on a much grander scale
than just a story
oh you're talking about like
if I got some
first of all
I'm not going to ask certain people all, I'm not going to ask
certain people for it.
I'm not going to ask...
Like...
It all depends.
Who am I asking?
My brother, my sister?
Because I don't trust
a whole lot of people
with information.
I'm talking about the type of help
where you have to put your pride
and your ego aside.
That kind of help.
Nah.
So whatever it may be.
Nah.
People talk too much.
Hmm.
So then it's easy for you to ask
for forgiveness then basically
I ain't got no problem with that
if I'm wrong
I'm saying I'm man enough
to say I'm wrong
yeah
no
some people
some people forget
but they never forget
no you don't
I mean yeah
some people forget
but they never forget
now and obviously
how you forget
depending on what you do
if they never
if they never forget
things will never be the same Ocho tell me how you forget something Depending on what you do. If they never forget, things will never be the same.
Ocho, tell me how you forget something that's happened to you.
You can't.
You can't.
You move on.
It's just like when people ask me,
Shanna, how do you get over the passing of your grandmother?
Because I understood.
I know you close.
I say, you don't get over it.
You just get better at dealing with it as time passes.
And so maybe the person gets better at dealing
with whatever they forgave you for,
but they're not forgetting it.
If there was infidelity or if there was a DUI,
if there was something where the trust was broken,
you don't forget that.
Yeah, that's another tough one.
The branch off of when the branch off of of with uh
when we talk about trust yeah but with humans right and i i always sit back and i think about
this when i think about humans in general human error is inevitable right human error is inevitable
so at some point what i've learned to do throughout my life,
and I've gotten really good at this,
I've learned to manage my expectations with others.
Because at times you expect you from others
when they're nothing like you.
When it comes to romantic relationships,
when it comes to partners that you're with,
you're expecting a certain level of loyalty,
of trust, and
at times that trust can be broken because human error is inevitable.
We try to achieve perfection in all that we do, but is it honestly possible when you think
about it in hindsight, is it honestly possible to be perfect for a long extended period of time?
Is it possible?
Like, think about it.
Is it possible?
I'm with you and I'm never going to fuck up ever a day in life.
You can't say never because never encompasses confidence is not in front of, no.
Logically think about that.
Yeah.
Because you have to live
one day at a time
because each day brings
a new set of trials
and circumstances.
And so I don't know
what tomorrow is going to hold.
All I can say is,
babe, I'm going to try
to be the best I possibly can be
today.
Now, I can't promise you tomorrow.
Right.
I've always thought about that.
I always thought about that
because I hear people all the time.
Tomorrow's a mystery.
Yesterday is history.
I live in the day.
I always hear people talk about that.
Oh, trust is broken.
Oh, well, he did this to me.
Or, oh, she did this to me.
You got to learn to manage your expectations.
Yeah.
Manage your expectations and understand human nature.
Understand human nature and human error is inevitable,
no matter who you are.
Yes.
Casey Taylor, Uncle Nocho, and anybody in the chat,
I can use some prayers.
I'm a 26-year-old male, and recently,
doctors have found a very uncommon mass around my
pulmonary artery. I've
never smoked or vaped in my life.
Casey, we
are praying for you. We're pulling for you.
Just know that God is with you every step
of the way. And this is something, this is
a small setback for a major
comeback.
I believe in you.
Stay positive.
And I know
sometimes when a situation, when it seems the
darkest, but that's when the light is
on the horizon. So,
Casey, myself, Ocho,
and this entire chat, sending out
thoughts and prayers, and hopefully
you're better soon.
Come back.
We'll be looking to hear from you again and tell us
everything's okay. Yes, sir.
Laney Ray, Shannon
and Chad,
what is on your personal and professional bucket
list?
My professional bucket list
is to get on goddamn first take.
My bucket list is don't kick it
that was on my bucket list
you all know my first take
I'm trying not to kick it
my professional bucket list
go to Wimbledon
attend the Olympics uh
what else have I
said I wanted
huh
we could do both
this summer
uh
let me think
let me think
what else
Wimbledon
the Olympics
you know what wow man I might as well go see go to Monte Carlo it's in Monaco Wimbledon, the Olympics.
You know what?
Wow, man, I might as well go see,
go to Monte Carlo.
Is it Monaco?
Monaco.
Monaco.
F1?
Yeah.
Why are you traveling like that?
You need to go catch a soccer game.
Experience what it's like.
Even though you don't understand the game,
once you experience it,
then you'll get a better understanding and then I'll explain the game to you.
You know who this is?
You know who I got on?
You know this jersey?
Turn around, let me see.
One of the greatest players of all time.
Chat, what y'all know about this?
Know who that is?
Del Piero.
Hey, one of the greatest of all time.
Huh?
Personal bucket list.
My personal bucket list?
I'm glad you said that.
It's still the only thing I haven't done.
You know, I've done some crazy stuff in my lifetime.
I am going to swim with killer whales in the wild in Norway or New Zealand.
I did that.
I'm checking
that off my bucket list.
At some point in 2024,
swimming in the wild with killer whales.
I got to go to Africa.
Beautiful.
Beautiful. You're going to love it.
You're going to love it.
All right, Ocho. I got a drunk bottle of water.
You got to take over the chat.
All right.
Listen. Yeah, my
bucket list. I want to I want to swim with killer whales in a while. Those of you that
follow me those of you that don't I have a huge fascination with killer whales. My right
the right side from my waist to my leg to my ankle. I have killer whales tattooed all the way down I love them
I love them
And if I were to go
If I were to die
God forbid
That would be a way I would want to go out
Obviously they don't attack humans in the wild
People are like oh killer whales
They're crazy all they do is kill
But there have been no attacks in the wild
Only in captivity
For specific reasons Obviously they're held captive You would go crazy too if you were but there have been no attacks in the wild only in captivity for specific
reasons obviously they're held captive you would go crazy too if you were
floating around in a and I know and a small sea pen that's not very deep but
that is my my bucket list my personal bucket list obviously my professional
bucket list is I want to be on first take I want to be on first take. I want to go on first take.
And I want to debate with Hunk and Stephen A. Smith.
And I'd probably win.
I'd probably win.
And I'm going to have some good takes, some harsh takes.
And I will be critical and analytical of players like I need to be.
You know, I just got to be in the right setting. Yeah, pretty much it
So chat
What's your professional bucket list and what is your personal bucket list I can see the chat so I can see your answers
I'm listening
Okay I'm listening. Okay.
Cool.
I like that.
Hold on.
Let me look at the chat so I can answer, so I can talk to people.
How you move his thing.
Hey, I'm trying to get my chat up.
I'm trying to see the chat.
Man, did you wash your hands?
Of course.
You came back too damn fast.
Man, I've been gone 20 minutes.
I can't even get my chat up so I can see what the people saying.
They're saying you pull a cock off.
That's what I feel in my ear.
Oh, there you go.
I like that poll. Who put it in that poll
who put it in that poll
will Ocho be critical
on first take
I don't have
I wouldn't have no choice
nah you got a choice
you ain't got no choice
over here but you do
listen let me
let me say something
you put me
on TV
in that setting
you were on TV
listen to me
let me finish
you put me in that setting around TV. Listen to me. Let me, let me finish.
You put me in that setting with you and Stephen, a,
and I got the rise of the occasion and flip the coin and be,
and be like on par with y'all.
Or you're going to see another side come out.
You,
you won't see another side come out.
I know I play around a lot.
I know I make jokes a lot
I know you know I be playing around
About coming on first take
I'm not really pressing the issue
I just like the running joke of asking
But I'm just saying
If the opportunity presented itself
Well you're going to see a whole
You're going to see a whole another person
You're going to see a whole another side
I see you right now
Huh?
No I'm just telling you
I know I play around a lot
I'm just saying
I change and I adapt to my surroundings.
And in that position, I would have no choice but to be someone that we're not used to seeing.
That's all I'm saying.
Angie Wright says, I want you sharp.
That's so Angie.
Hold on Angie
Don't have Jess jump on you now
Mashburn said
Uncle Nocho
You're sentenced to death
But you get one meal
Of your choosing before death
What you eating?
I ain't eating nothing
Y'all gonna kill me anyway
What the hell I want something to eat for?
I'm getting my last meal
Like the Green Mile
I want my
I want
Number one extra cheese With no onions Coke with no ice I'm getting my last meal like the Green Mile. I want myself, I want number one
extra cheese with no onions,
coconut ice,
lightly salted fries,
lightly salted fries fresh.
Shoot.
Matter of fact,
throwing a goddamn apple pie
for me too.
Shoot, I'm finna go anyway.
You know what, Ocho?
Yeah.
You know what I'm gonna do?
Yes, sir.
I'm gonna order shellfish. I'm allergic to shellfish. I'm going to do? Yes, sir. I'm going to order shellfish.
I'm allergic to shellfish.
I'm going to beat him to the punch.
I'm going to kill my damn self.
That's what I'm going to do.
Got you.
Hey, that's a good one.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
Now, you know what, Ocho?
I want ribs fries burger
yeah
how you gonna eat all that man
you can't go
you can't go down
I know what I want
oxtails I want some oxtails
over some rice
white rice
yeah oxtail over some rice.
I want some smothered pork chops.
Smothered fried chicken.
That's too much, man.
You can't eat all that.
And ginger ale.
Ginger ale.
Yep. That's my drink.
And I want two shots
of La Portier.
I like it. I like it.
I like it. I'm waiting on my
La Portier.
And like the Joker said in the Batman,
go, go, go with a smile.
So that's me. That's what
I want. Nikki Grant says, hey guys, how like y'all i was raised by my
grandmother i lost her in 2022 and i've been effing up i've been effing up and feeling bad
about it this show and playing on y'all has helped me so much what helped y'all cope with the loss of your grandmas?
To know that I had her for 43 years.
And she never
left my side, although I know she's
not here
in the
present form, in the body, but I know
spiritually. And that's what I thought.
And that's what was the hardest thing
was to understand.
Shannon, you had it for 43 years.
43.
Some people didn't get an opportunity to have a grandmother that long.
But I had it for 43 years.
I slept in the same bed as my grandmother for 15 years.
So for me, everything that I did in high school, I really didn't hang out, Ocho.
We played a game, and I'd come home
because my grandmother was gone.
My brother was in college.
My sister was a dating age, and she'd be out.
I'm going home to see what's going on with Granny.
And I went to Savannah State, and I could come home.
I didn't come home that much,
but I would just come home to check on her,
make sure sometimes I come home.
Granny, you good?
I'd sit around, talk to her for an hour or two, and I go back to school.
And so I thought about,
instead of thinking about, I'm not
going to have her anymore, I thought about
all the times that I did have her in those 43
years. And I thought about all the times
that we sat around and we talked, and
you know, I was a baby
and all the times that if I was sick,
she would rub me and say, baby, it's going to be okay.
I thought about that.
So I didn't think
about what I wasn't going to have anymore.
I thought about all the 43
years that I did have. And like I
tell you all the time, my brother can tell you,
I can tell you everything my grandmother, my
grandfather ever said.
I hung on.
They didn't know this, but everything they said, I hung on they didn't know this
but everything they said I hung on
yeah
and so
Michelle
and Diggy had a cello song that is called
Wasted Time and she's talking
about
you rarely notice that I
I hang on everything that you say
you rarely notice me take a listen to that you say. You rarely notice me.
Take a listen to the song.
It's called Waste Your Time.
And my grandmother did not know.
My grandfather did not know everything that they said.
I was a sponge.
That's how you have to be careful with the way you talk around your kids
or talk around young people because they absorb it.
They are a sponge.
And I say that
Michelle Indigo's cello
is talking about she's wasting
time wanting this person
to notice her.
There was no wasted time
with my grandmother because I knew
from a very young age, I just knew how special
my grandmother was. And
all the smart talking I used to do,
it was just like you know what
it just dawned on me one day i think i was about 10 or 11 years old i just realized how special
my grandmother was and how lucky i was and i never gave any more problems
but how did you how did you deal with the loss of your grandmother i mean obviously i lost my
grandmother in 2018 uh it was very very difficult difficult for me. Grandma raised me. A lot of my core values that I do have today that she has instilled in me are still here. I am a product of her.
my willingness and my want to be successful at any and everything that I touch.
Again, remembering everything that she told me.
Now, I can't remember some of the things verbatim, but the way I am with money,
my financial consciousness and not spinning, being very detailed in all that I do as well.
Being very detailed.
Man, that was very difficult.
Just remembering the good times.
Remembering the good times is one of the things that kind of hold me over. That's how you got to do it, Ocho.
Remembering the good times is one of the things that hold me over.
But again, even with losing my grandma in 2018, losing my mom in 2021, one of the things
still to this day, and I've talked to you about it before, it bothers me a lot.
It bothers me a lot is to deal with you guys all these years, deal with my mom, deal with
my grandma. And for all we've been through,
the ups and downs
and for you guys to transition
and to transition and then I get,
I didn't even get to say goodbye
to neither one.
I didn't get to say goodbye to either one
and to get no sign,
no nothing, like anything letting me know that you're okay.
Just something, anything out of the ordinary.
Because my routine in life has never changed.
It's never changed.
It's very simple.
So if there was any type of sign or any type of inclination that it could be you, I would know.
I would see it.
I would witness it. And the fact that I've got nothing, I've got nothing all these years, that, that just doesn't sit right
with me. And it makes me, it makes me question everything that they talk about in church,
as far as when, when you transition in the afterlife, going to heaven, because if you love
me, like you say you did all the years and saying it repeatedly
every day never miss a day like where's the love now they did it they're just not here physically
to show it to you but they have never left your side but ah again and that's where the sign comes
in at it don't have to be much it could be it could be it could be you haven't noticed it. Rail your sign.
They knew what you needed.
You didn't.
Parents can see things.
Grandmothers can see things that, and know things.
Moms, my grandmother raised me, she was around me uh more than my mom
she could sense things see things know when i was upset know when something was on or was what's
bothering me um it's yeah yeah it Yeah. It's tough.
Yeah, it's tough.
Chad says, I'm two million away from passing Joe Rogan's number.
You guys, like I said, it's, I still, I mean, people, Ocho,
the question that I get asked more than anything,
did I know Cat Williams number Cat Williams was
going to do this number how could I
possibly know Ocho
how could I possibly know
that's like saying you ask
Tom Brady dad or did you know
Tommy was going to be this
or you ask my home dad you know he was going to be
how could you how could I
possibly know
it's not like there are like 50 million uh uh interviews like 50 million views interviews
just floating around on youtube right and youtube i don't know how long youtube's been around like
10 years 15 Oh, man.
19 years, almost 20 years.
So, no, I did not know.
I couldn't possibly know.
What we do, the team, we do a greater job of researching,
trying to ask questions that the fan would want to know.
Hopefully they share stuff, things with us
they haven't shared with anyone else
or they haven't shared them in a very long time.
I try to be as relatable.
I try to make them feel as comfortable as I possibly can.
And they open up.
But I could not have possibly known
that this thing would do 50 we're at 55
million views oh joe that's a lot 55 million views that's a lot there's a chance in a month
uh what the third we released it on the third so february 3rd there's a chance it'll be at 57
million views how could I possibly have known?
No, I didn't.
I'm not going to sit here and lie and say,
oh, I know we're going to blow up the internet.
No, I didn't.
But I thank all of you for watching it.
I thank all of you for supporting me like you have from when I was at Undisputed.
And I remember when it was announced that I was leaving
and you guys jumped on my timeline and said,
hey, we falling up.
Y'all didn't lie.
Y'all been very, very supportive.
And I can't thank you enough.
My family can't thank you enough.
My team can't thank you enough.
You guys have been great.
You guys have been great to Shannon Sharp and his family.
Nightcap, Club Shea Shea.
I mean, you know, Ocho, you know, sometimes, hey, if you ever
need me, shit, don't call me.
Man, but man, you know,
but when they said,
we falling up, we going
with them. Oh, yeah. They ain't lie.
They coming. They did not lie.
And so I appreciate
you guys. And I appreciate
you guys watching, Cat,
because as great an interview as it was, it's because of you.
You guys watched it. And a lot of you guys watched it on multiple occasions.
And a lot of you guys are still watching it. So from the bottom of my heart and my team, we thank you.
Who is this? Breesh McKinley. Can you please shout out my fiance, Elijah Simmons?
He turned 35 today. We love the show and watch daily.
Keep grinding, going hard.
Okay, Brees, thank you.
Elijah, Brees want to wish you a happy birthday today.
Happy 35th birthday.
Congratulations.
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday.
Ebony Millie, please wish a happy 40th birthday to my amazing husband
Irving. He loves y'all's show. I love him.
Love Miss Patterson. Ebony!
Irving.
Ebony says happy
birthday. She wants to wish you a very happy
40th birthday. Great milestone.
Thank you guys
for the support. Thank you for watching the show.
We greatly, greatly appreciate it.
So Irving, this is from
Unc and Ocho and Ebony,
happy 40th birthday.
Aaron Owens, I'm keep going to shop
shooting my shot, Ocho.
Be my narrator for my
HBCU football documentary
on Central State University.
Central State?
That's in Ohio.
Big Easy went to Central State.
Vince Buck, I came out with a guy,
me and VB, we played in the East-West Shrine game together.
He went to Central State.
Oh, Hugh Douglas.
What up, Hugh?
Hugh Douglas went to Central State.
Okay.
Hugh was the defensive rookie of the year.
I think 96.
So they had some players that come out of Central State.
Mm-hmm.
Marlon Spivey, Uncle Nocho, any advice for a bachelor party in Vegas?
Bachelor party?
In Vegas.
You asking for trouble.
Listen, you saw the hangover, right?
Yeah.
I sure hope you got your wood under control.
Because you'll be divorced before you get married.
Hmm.
But, hey, Ocho, let me ask you a quick
question. So, let's just say
for the sake of argument, you have a bachelor party.
Yeah. Can you
get one last romp in
before you get married? Is that a forgivable
or that's a deal breaker? The wife
like, nah, bro. Nah, I
can't have that. Shit, bro. You blew live but not to get married, boy's like, nah, bro. Nah, I can't have that.
Shit, bro.
You blew live but not to get married,
boy, that get out, right?
Yeah, man.
Because you're going to say,
if I'd have went out
right before we got married
and you know,
old boy hooked it up for me,
how you going to feel?
You know?
Yeah.
If you can't dish it,
if you can't take it,
don't dish it.
But see, here's the thing if I shouldn't say this
because these women today
they different when I was coming up
women ain't give you no hoo-ha
unless they had an emotional I mean it was hard
for women to get off hoo-ha if they didn't feel
something for you
now
hey it is what it is
they think like a They think like a man.
Listen,
you bag right,
boy, it's going to take flight.
I'm just telling you.
Ain't no hee-haw.
Ain't no plan.
Ain't no,
ain't no,
if you bag right,
boy, it's going to take flight.
Every time. Every time. And the longer your money, ain't no plan, ain't no, ain't no, if your bag right, boy, it's going to take flight every time,
every time.
And the longer your money,
those things
going to get funny.
Ah, man,
somebody said
they made their husband
wait a whole year.
Before what?
Before he got it.
Got who?
Her.
Shit.
And she got a ring.
Yeah, all right. I got a test drive that car
yeah
I'm just saying I got a test drive
that can't be no lima
man you know the lima law
and you stuck with it sometimes
but yeah
and what do you
boy
hey hey like big boy say boy stop And what do you want? Boy, boy, hey, hey, that's him.
Okay, like, like big boys say, boy, stop.
Mm hmm.
Better than me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that definitely me.
Hey, who?
In today's time?
I get it.
Like when my grandmother and grandfather and my great. Yeah. Okay.
I get all that.
Yeah.
Today.
Are you?
Yeah.
I'm talking about how I got an hour for you.
We on the clock.
Girl, you know me.
Forty five meters.
Come on.
We did that.
Yeah.
It becomes dangerous.
Even if you have discipline, even if you have and and you a man of of of morals but core values when you have options as plentiful as you do now
it becomes difficult not not individual i'm saying when you're single and you got somebody talking
about oh you got you got to wait a, oh, you got to wait a year.
I mean, I got to wait a year
for that and I can get it
from over here for free?
And you think I'm going to play with you?
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Shit.
All right.
I don't know about that.
Yeah, okay.
I don't know about that.
Yeah, but more power to it.
More power to it, man.
Congratulations.
Congratulations on you on getting that ring.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Congrats.
Hopefully.
Matter of fact, let me know when the wedding is,
because I'm going to come crash that shit.
Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy asked,
hey, Uncle Nocho, on average,
how many pairs of sneakers do you buy a month?
I ain't bought no sneakers in a long time.
I don't buy no sneakers.
I mean, I got like 600 pairs.
Yeah.
I bet y'all ain't going to get these.
I bet that.
Now.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Get them.
Y'all don't know.
Yeah.
Bet y'all ain't gonna get them.
I'm gonna help y'all out.
I might.
I'm gonna take off your...
Because I know y'all won't get it with just one.
I'm gonna take the left one off.
Two. Look at that right take the left one off. Two.
Look at that right there.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, yeah.
No, I don't really buy this.
I don't buy sneakers.
I mean, I got like,
I probably got...
How many pairs of sneakers
do you think I got, Ed?
I buy the same thing over and over.
Air Force Ones.
I get a crease,
go get another pair.
Ed says she think I got about 800 pairs of sneakers.
Boy, you be spinning that bag, boy.
Well, you know, I used to be a Nike athlete.
Yo, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
But I hadn't been one of them.
I hadn't been one of them in a while.
Yeah, you hoarding shoes.
Huh?
Yeah, I do.
I have rock and stock.
So I have ones that I wear and then a lot of them, some really good ones that I've got duplicates.
Soldier asks, have you ever been starstruck by someone famous yeah Michael
Jordan
I told you I saw him in the
Super Bowl in Atlanta I got
you know he got on the elevator
I got on the elevator with him
that's when he was his first wife in 94
I'll never forget it
I don't care what y'all say
that mofo would levitate yeah different 94. I'll never forget it. I don't care what y'all say.
That mofo was levitating.
Yeah. Different.
And everybody says the same thing.
I don't care what y'all say. Y'all can't tell me that man wasn't levitating. He didn't seem real.
He's the only man that I've ever been
around. And I've been around
Denzel, Oprah,
Sam Jackson, LeBron,
Shaq, Kobe, rest his soul.
I've been around some of the greats.
The near, JZ, Drake.
That man levitate.
He levitate.
I can't explain it.
And I tried, and when I can't explain it.
And I tried.
And when I try to explain it, it's almost blasphemous because what I'm comparing him to.
But if you've ever met him, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
He doesn't.
He's the only man that I've ever met. The only person that I've ever met that didn't seem real.
And I know he a man, because he talked
and he
walked, but you got
I can't
explain it. But if
you go and everybody that's
ever met him explains him the
exact same way.
Every, for the most part,
every athlete that's ever met Michael
Jordan explains him the exact same way.
He doesn't seem real.
He levitates.
I wish there was something I could tell you.
That's the best way I can explain it.
And he's the only person I've been like, you know, hey.
You know, now that I'm out here in L.A., I see i see more fame you know i don't go out a whole
lot uh but when i go to events you know you see people mike mike's a different animal man
how would you that's the only way i can explain it though joe that's the only way i can explain it
and i just wish uh i never met prince i had an opportunity to go see prince
his last concert he performed in atlanta and you had to like have the ticket because they wouldn't
let you they would he knew he was always uh his last couple of concerts they took control of that
and so you had to go up there with the with your credit card and you could only get two and a guy
i mean the ticket was like 200 bucks,
but he wanted like $3,000 a ticket for it.
I was like, nah, I can't pay that.
Like he ended up passing like a week later.
Damn.
So I didn't get a chance to see him
and I could have just imagined him
probably, well, obviously Michael Jackson
because, hey, the man come out on stage
and people faint.
The mention of his name,
people would faint. So I guess that's what it has to be like.
But
Michael,
Michael Jordan is just, I can't explain
it, Ocho. I can't. I wish I could,
but I can't do it justice.
Yeah, I haven't met anybody
like that yet. Obviously, I've met
Mike before, met many
of the A-listers, and I just haven't had that one person that was like I was in awe of. If there was
one person that I've been wanting to meet for so long, it's Daniel Day-Lewis. And if the day I can
cross paths with Daniel Day-Lewis, who is very, very,
the likelihood of that happening
is slim to none,
I lose my shit.
I lose my mind.
You been did that
before you met him.
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