Club Shay Shay - The Bubba Dub Show - Bubba Dub interviews Amari Cooper before Cowboys-Browns Week 1 matchup!!
Episode Date: September 3, 2024Bubba Dub sits down with Cleveland Browns star wide receiver Amari Cooper! Dub asks Amari why he isn't mentioned among the best wide receivers in the NFL!? Ain't nobody a better route runner than Amar...i and that's the truth!! Then, Bubba asks Amari what went wrong in Dallas with the Cowboys? Was he the scapegoat for Dak Prescott's poor play in the Playoffs? TRASHH!! Plus, is there a beef between Amari and Jerry Jones? After, Dub takes it back to college ball to ask Amari his thoughts on his college head coach at Alabama, Nick Saban, retiring. The two speculate how much money Amari would have brought in if he could've gotten an NIL deal!! Finally, the tables turn as Amari interviews Bubba about his rise in the comedy game! Bubba lists his Top 5 comedians right now, and lets Amari in on a few secrets to his comedy!!#volume #clubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Today I got a special guest in the building, Amari Cooper.
What's good, fam?
What's good, man? Appreciate you for having me on.
Hey, man, I appreciate you coming on here, man.
You know, you kind of like that character, the ghost and power, man.
It's hard to catch up with you, brother.
No, man, it's just some complications, man.
Oh, I already know.
Speaking of that, man, let me go on just just straight to it, man, because I had several conversations
with people behind the scenes of the top tier wide receivers in the NFL.
You got the Justin Jefferson, you got the Tyree Hills, you got the C.E.
Lambs and the guy Brandi Duke, the guy with the 49ers.
And everybody name my way come up except your.
Why in the hell your name don't
never come up in the top tier wide receivers bro like I like how does that make you feel
or you don't really just give a damn about that?
Now of course I mean every every player in the NFL play for respect. So of course I care
about it. I just tell me I got to harder, bro. Like, I forgot what rap, I was listening to a song.
You know, we like to get motivated by songs.
He say, don't never let nobody tell you that you slept on.
You gotta take the blame that you progress wrong.
So like me, that's how I look at it.
Like, nah, I ain't slept on, I just gotta do more.
What else do you gotta do?
Five time pro bowler? Last two years, you got 24 do? Five time pro bowler.
Last two years, you got 2410, you're a 14.
What in the hell do you got to do, bro?
Like me personally looking at maybe because you're a quiet guy, you're going to
bother nobody. I think you get the more of a Harrison route.
Treat me.
Nah, it ain't.
You can go and do your job.
Nah, there's always more to do, bro.
It's levels, you know what I mean?
For sure.
Like, I gotta lead the league in receiving.
I gotta lead the league in touchdowns.
I know I could do it.
I know I got the skills to do it.
It just has to be done.
You know what I'm saying?
Sometimes you gotta make things undeniable, bro.
Like, that's just what it is.
Okay, I respect that.
And I like that as a player, cause you're going to hear most players saying that
that because you ain't making no excuses.
You got to do more.
But you have had quarterbacks who've been hurt.
You know what I'm saying?
And now you in Cleveland with the son watching,
I think you're going to do some great things this year.
You know, he even really start the season last year due to whatever
his situation was now he's there there full season, trying to count.
What's the expectations this year? Up there in Cleveland right now, what's the expectation?
I mean we're a very talented group this year man. I think you know you look at the
Cleveland Browns we never won an official Super Bowl. Yeah we feel like we got all the
pieces to do it bro. We had the best defense in the league last year, undoubtedly.
We had a really good offense.
A lot of moving parts though, as you mentioned before,
like with the quarterback position and stuff like that,
Deshaun wasn't able to make it through the whole season.
But now that we got him back
and we got a whole bunch of route runners in the room,
everybody coming back,
I mean, we just feel like the sky's the limit.
Obviously, every team feels like that around this time of the season,
right before the season starts.
But I mean, we got the pieces in play.
We just got to we just got to go get it.
Speaking of that, I think one of the things that
doesn't get talked about about you is your route running ability.
There's a lot of great players in the league.
They fast, they make exciting plays, but your route running ability, I think for
me, is going to continue to give you the longevity in this NFL that most players
won't get because you can actually run routes and I watch a lot of film on you,
bro, like like your footwork.
You know, I pay attention cuz I'm studying the game
But I'm trying to be a real sports anguillist and I don't just want to come over and just talk shit
And no like I watch you bro. I watched the footwork your movement, you know 15 yard DG
I'm watching all this you're one of the best rap
Running receivers in the league. You
and Devonte Aguilmes, man. Where did that come from? Was it down in Alabama with Nick
Saban them or you get some things on your own instinct?
Yeah, I mean, it comes from, you got to think, I'm from South Florida. So, I mean, you being
from, I don't know if you're from Dallas, right?
Texas. I'm from Texas. No, I'm not from Dallas. I'm from East Texas. But you know, Texas and
Florida are some of the best football players in the world.
So like most most people from like other states and stuff like that, they wouldn't understand
it.
But if you grew up in a Texas, you grew up in the South Florida, you grew up in a spot
that pushed football like culturally, you know, you know what I'm saying?
So like, it's almost like growing up in like New York playing basketball.
It's the same thing.
So like.
When you ask me where that comes from, it's just like, you know how they say
repetition is the mother of all learning.
Growing up, I played so much backyard football.
I was so I was taught by so many great coaches every day.
The thing to do is wake up in the summer, play football.
So like I had I got so much
reps at it to where like the footwork is just second nature. It's just like, it's just like
anybody who good at anything. You know, you start young, you have the God given talent
for it. And then you just, you fall in love with it and you just, you do it every day.
So like, when you think about a lot of receivers, I'm one of the, I'm probably the only receiver,
I can guarantee you, I'm probably, like, one of the only receivers in the league who've
been playing the same position his whole life.
Like, a lot of receivers, they start off playing running back when they're young, they might
have played quarterback, you know.
Safety, all of that.
Safety, yeah.
I play receiver every single year.
So, like, this would be like my 24 25th year playing football playing receiver
So it's just second nature at this point when it come to route running. It's not a route in the
In the route sheet that I haven't ran thousands of times. You know, I'm saying so it's just it's just second nature
How do y'all football players feel when y'all see y'all mad and right?
How do y'all football players feel when y'all see y'all mad and ratings?
Especially when, like, cause I'm picking out some gibberish there, because like, I just, I think they got you at 90, right?
And they might have another player at 91, 92, you like,
man I know motherfucking well I'm building here.
Come on dawg, come on man, y'all homing with me type shit, come on now.
But see, you can't really like man do be tough on the ratings.
But the thing I respect about it, especially nowadays, is like
they're up your ratings while the season going on.
So let's say you ball, let's say you ball off of three straight
three straight weeks and you are 90.
They'll be like, OK, even he been going crazy.
Like we're going we're going to give him a 93 94.
So it's no it's really no excuse.
Like I'm not you probably can tell I'm not really big on excuse making, bro.
Like, it is what it is, bro.
Okay, okay, I'm a 90 right now.
Let's say I go out the first four games and have a hundred yards each game.
They gonna up the ratings.
So like, you can't be complaining about your ratings when they literally upping the ratings,
you know what I'm saying?
So that's just how I feel about it.
See, that's what me and you different that you don't make excuses.
I do. When my baby, my baby, my boyfriend beat me up, I had COVID.
You know what I'm saying?
Big stage 30.
I got every excuse in the world.
Reason why I win that fight. That's just me.
I just came from that. I just came from a gym.
Me, my my my to come through with me, man. I'm extending the invitation to the gym, man. Man, I come to the gym and work out the gym, man. You might need to come through with me, man.
I'm extending the invitation to the gym, man.
Man, I come to the gym and work out with you, man.
Nothing like getting in shape.
But speaking of Texas, like I told you, I'm from Texas, man.
You played for the Cowboys, man.
What's your thing went wrong with the Cowboys, man?
What's your thing went wrong?
What you mean with my career there?
Yeah, yeah.
I don't think, I don't really think. I mean, you mean why I'm not there no more, you mean? Yeah, yeah. I don't think I only think I mean,
you mean why I'm not there no more?
You mean? Yeah, yeah. Oh,
I don't know, but it's a touchy subject, I would say.
I don't know from what I know, bro, that my last year there.
So I actually signed my second contract there.
You know, a huge contract.
So I don't first of all, I just want to say I don't have no complaints
when it comes to playing for the Cowboys.
Like, for sure, I enjoyed my time there, bro.
It's it's a great spot to play.
Dallas is a great city.
And then just plan just plan for the Cowboys, bro.
It's a good feeling being at that stadium.
You feel like the lights, cameras and action. You feel the you play prime bro, it's a good feeling. Being at that stadium, you feel like the lights,
cameras, and action.
You feel the, you play prime time mostly every game.
Like, it's what, when you dream, when you a kid,
you dream of playing in the NFL,
it's like playing for the Cowboys.
That's what it should be.
But as far as like why I'm not there no more,
I just, I got traded.
That's a part of playing in the NFL. It's correct, correct. Why I got traded. That's a part of planning. And I guess. Correct.
Why I got traded.
I mean, obviously, like the the the goal for every receiver should be every year
to go for a thousand yards that year.
I got to go for a thousand yards because I missed a couple of games
because of the covid situation.
So I didn't get I didn't get the actual the vaccine shot.
So when I actually got covid, all the guys who got the shot,
they was only missing like four days.
But me, because of the rules, I had to miss so many days.
So I ended up missing two games, really three games,
because the game I came back only played like 15, 20 plays.
I wasn't in shape and I hadn't been practicing.
And I came back the day before that game. So like, um, and we was in playoff contention, you know what I'm saying? Like,
well we actually made the playoffs, but we were trying to get the number one seed and
we was like, I think at that time we was probably like, we probably had two losses and probably
like nine or 10 wins. I don't remember. I know it was around like, yeah, I was rolling.
Yeah, I was rolling there. You were rolling.all was rolling, y'all was rolling that year.
I remember.
We was rolling, we was rolling,
but the two games I missed, the past game struggled
and we lost both of them games.
So I think, I don't know,
I think, you know, Jerry was a little mad at me.
I don't know.
This is what I'm gonna say,
and you know, because you know,
you're still in the league, you know what I'm saying?
We gotta get this money. But I think you was the scapegoat for Dak Troubles that year still in the league, you know what I'm saying, we gotta get this money.
But I think you was the scapegoat for Dak Troubles
that year in the end.
I really thank you with the scapegoat for his play.
And then that's okay, you know,
Jerry can do what he wanted with his team.
We get-
No, but Dak was hoopin'.
He was hoopin' on you.
That playoff game.
But how could I be the scapegoat for-
No, no, no, what I'm'm saying no, no, no, this is
this is what I'm saying right here, right? Y'all lost their playoff game, right?
Yeah, yeah. You had kind of like you say you was COVID. You didn't get over the
thousand-yard receivers, right? Larry Cooper got Dak Prescott on that team. Y'all lose first round. Yeah.
Jerry, what are you gonna do?
You know what I'm saying?
Like that's the rumor.
I was hearing this, that he used you as a scapegoat
saying that you was wanting more money.
Nah, that ain't how it went.
That ain't how it went.
I'm just saying, that's, we know it might not be how it went,
but you know how to beat your. No, that's, that's, that's, we know it might not be how it went, but you know how the media.
No, that's like what the fans be pushing on social media.
You know, the, like, it's like the media got their own way
of spinning and pushing things.
The fans got their own way of pushing things.
The players got their own way of pushing.
And then the ownership got their own.
It's just like, life is all about perspective, bro.
But, you know, I feel like, I feel like that's what it was with me.
It was just like more of a situation to where, you know,
Jerry thought I cost the team because the two games I didn't play
was two games we lost.
We didn't get the number one seed, which the number one seed in the playoff,
you get a basso.
So we wouldn't have never lost that first round of the playoffs,
but we probably would have got a buy in the first round.
So like, I don't know. I don't know what's in the mind of Jerry Jones, but all
respect to Jerry, man. Like I said before, like I said before, he traded the
first round pick for me. I went in there, I did my thing, you know what I'm saying?
And now I'm on Cleveland. So this is exactly what I'm supposed to be.
Most definitely. And like you said, y'all got one of the best defenses in the league over with Miles Garret
over right now, man.
What is it like playing with that guy, man?
What is it like playing with Miles Garret, bro?
To be the truth, so I've known Miles not on a personal level, but like when I was at Alabama,
he was at Texas A&M.
And he was a freshman at Texas A&M my junior year in college.
So I was like, you know,
just one of the top players in the country.
And we had a left tackle, yeah, Cam Robertson.
He was a freshman and Miles was a freshman.
And I remember,
cause it's hard to start as a freshman at Bama.
So Cam started as a freshman,
and he was kind of looking to me as like,
you know, one of his leaders,
because I started as a freshman at Bama.
So he was like, like always like, you know,
trying to get some of my guidance, like,
Coop, bro, what's up?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, how am I supposed to go about doing this?
So I remember we played Florida, bro, I'll never forget.
And we went against Fowler.
He went against Fowler. He was like, bro, I ain't gonna lie. went against Fowler, he went against Fowler.
He was like, bro, I ain't gonna lie.
You know, I feel like I had a good game,
but that was the best play I done played against.
Now Fowler was a junior.
He was a junior, he got drafted number three overall
that year.
That same year, like a couple games later,
he went against Miles as a true freshman.
Miles was a true freshman.
Man, after that game, he came up to me. He was like, man, listen, I know I said bro was the best player I played again, but Miles, I don't think I'm ever going to
play nobody as good as him. I'm like, they ain't like that. He's like, yeah. He's like,
he's going to get drafted number one overall, Coop. I'm like, for real? He's like, yeah.
And lo and behold, look at where he at now.
You know, he just one defensive player of the year.
So, Miles is the truth, man.
He a machine.
He a machine.
Yeah, I mean, I think we all see that for ourselves, man.
Dude out there dunking the way he dunking at that size.
Yeah, yeah.
It's amazing what Miles Garrow can do.
But I want to take you back for a second, Coop, man.
Let's talk about your time with Nick Saban, man.
Do you feel like it was time for Nick to retire?
That's a good question.
Like, I think, I haven't talked to Nick about this,
but just knowing Coach Saban, being around him,
understanding the way he thinks,
I think it was kind of unavoidable for him to retire. knowing Coach Saban being around him, understanding the way he thinks,
I think it was kind of unavoidable for him to retire. Like it was inevitable that he would retire.
The reason I say that is because Coach Saban, he likes to have a certain amount
of control over his team, which every coach loves.
You know what I'm saying? Every coach needs that.
And that's why people that's why coaches
want to be head coaches in the first place.
They might be OCFers or DCFers, but they don't have complete control over the team.
So with Nick Saban, like before all the new rules, he had the perfect amount of control
that he wanted.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, guys couldn't just up and transfer.
You know, guys weren't as concerned about money as they are now with the NIL rules.
And it was just, it was the perfect amount of control.
Speaking of that, meaning to cut you off, speaking of the NIL rule, man, what kind of
NIL deal you think you would have gotten?
Like, is he playing us now?
Like, what kind of bag would you be looking for right now, man, on the NIL deal?
See, and that's the thing.
So that's, that's, I think that's think that's a huge part of the reason Coach Saban
retires. So generally, like before all these rules, right,
you have a player who will be dominating at a school, right?
And it doesn't make sense for him to leave the school.
But now with the NIL, a player could dominate his sophomore year
and that next year he could enter the transfer
portal because the school he's currently at is not willing to offer him the money he feels
like he deserves. So for example, in my sophomore year at Bama, right? Let's say I came off
it with like an amazing year. My junior year, at the end of that year, I'll enter the transfer
portal if Bama wasn't willing to say I was
They thought I was worth a million dollars if Colorado was
Willing to pay me three million dollars. I would enter the transfer portal and go there now
ASAP because of
The money you I'm saying so I don't think co-saving like that at all because it was just it was too many variables, bro
like even like that at all because it was just it was too many variables bro like
You gotta think co-saving. He's like us. He's like a psychologist. I think that was his major in college You know saying so he knows how to recruit players
He know how to get them to them, but I think a huge problem was keeping them there
Yeah, like everybody's only even playing field per se like with the money now like normally your typical
Typical five-star athlete going to Bama.
Right, right.
But now it's like, you know, I got five million to go over to the Cougars, Houston Cougars.
Yeah.
And it's, you know, it's hard, but it's fair because the reality of the situation, bro,
everybody not gonna make it to the league.
That's the reality. And we all know players, bro.
We all know players who with the truth, we just know they're going to make it to the league.
But in college, they just not as good as they were in high school.
So if you understand this, you 18 years old, like, yeah, I might go to the league, but I might not.
I'm trying to get everything I could get now. If I could get $750,000, I need that now.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's just what it is.
And it's like me growing up, how I grew up,
I think I probably would have had that same mindset
because like, you know, tomorrow ain't promised.
And you know, growing up poor like that, you need it now.
You know what I'm saying?
So yeah, I think, you know, that amongst other reasons,
of course, is why he had to get up out of there
because it was just, it was just,
he couldn't control the situation as much as he wanted to.
And piggy off what you said, you know,
cause you know, I know I come up poor,
but I wasn't no athlete like y'all, Laura,
but a lot of our parents were poor.
Like neither one of my parents graduated.
So they just say if I was in this situation, sometimes.
Our parents be, hey, we got to get this money, baby.
I know you might want to go to Florida.
I know of a Florida only trying to give you one million.
I get it. They want to.
But saving them trying to give you four.
Like, I need you to go over and get the money.
And like, you know, sometimes I think the young men over and get the money and like, you know, sometimes
men They think somebody family members, you know pressing them and taking certain deals and you know, I can't and I can't say they wrong
But at the same time it's about kid like what's best for him?
But like you say a lot of these key young men are not gonna make it to being a fail, bro
Some of them do but they might just be on the practice squad. Practice squad money is different from, you know,
game roster money. It's levels to this.
Like when I went shopping with Floyd, it's levels.
I spent my eight grand, Chase blowing me up, fam.
He spent 80,000 like, you know, you and Floyd, y'all got that kind of money.
It's the third thing that I'm not going to be able to do with y'all. Only thing I'm going to do Floyd, y'all got that kind of money. I can't, this certain things I'm not gonna be able to do with y'all, Coop.
Only thing I'm gonna do is make y'all laugh.
Everything else, $3,000 bill, hey, I got the tip.
I can leave six-some-one dollar tips, I'm good with that.
So, like, it just levels to this, dawg.
It gets certain things you can do, certain things you can't do.
Speaking of that, man, for the young man that's watching, even older men, because it gets to the point, Cooper, now when you start being
successful like you, because you're on another level than I am. But what I'm saying is, my people
look at me now as the big homie, but they older than me. And that bothers me. I had my uncle call
me, hey, big homie, man, you're 75. Chill out, man. No, Coop, I'm, Coop, come onie, you're 75. You're not cool.
I'm cool. Come on.
You love it. I am.
Bro, so I feel you.
I feel you for sure.
And I think because they see me around, y'all know TV.
They think I got it.
I ain't got it like they get broke.
Give me a chance.
You know what they say, man?
They communicate.
Go ahead. Go ahead.
Communicate. I'm saying it. Yeah, I'm saying is, bro, like.
Sometimes people don't see you who you become.
They only see is who you are.
But I'm not the same bubble that I was five years ago.
I'm a different man.
I got a family.
You know, I got kids.
I can't just open you 15, $2,000 because you think I got a family. You know what I'm saying? I got kids. I can't just up and give you $15,000, $2,000 because you think I got it.
Man, it don't work like that.
But they feel like when they see you, I call it entitlement.
Oh, man, you got it.
It ain't gonna hurt you.
Right.
No, you got to work for this, man.
No, I think one of the things I learned in that situation is I think what we get so mad
because you got to think life is all about perspective, bro.
We now look at life in a different perspective, in a different light.
As opposed to what our family members might look at it in.
And like, I think I think one of the huge problems with what you just explained is
like, yeah, communication rule a nation.
Yeah, I can explain everything to you.
You might think I got $500,000.
But after taxes is this amount.
These are the people I have to pay.
I still got these bills.
But at the same time, why do I have to explain all this to you?
But I had a coach, bro.
It was so cold.
We was doing, we got this thing that we do at the Browns
to where we get up in front of the whole team. And coach would call us out that morning.
He'd probably text us and be like, hey, I want you to do this today. We'll get up in
front of the whole team and we'll talk to the team about our whole life, our history, our heroes, and other things, right?
And I had a coach, he stood up, and he was like,
because people kept asking for stuff,
like his friends, his family, whatever, whatever, whatever.
And his mama told, he said his mama told him,
like boy, you don't owe me 25 cents,
what make you think you owe him a dollar? And I just stuck with me, bro, because this is like, boy, you owe me 25 cents. What make you think you owe him a dollar?
And I just stuck with me, bro, because this is like,
hey, like your mama telling you like you want as much.
I raised you. You don't owe me nothing.
You don't even owe me 25 cents.
So what make you think you owe this man a dollar?
You know what I'm saying?
Like. It's that entitlement that you say, bro, is that entitlement?
It's just like people think that you owe them something, bro.
Like, when they had the same opportunity you had.
Hey, it's Jay Calbern.
We have a new limited series of my podcast,
Deep Cover, out now.
All about George Santos,
the Republican congressman from New York
who told a lot of stories about his life and his credentials, many of which turns out were not true.
It's like you know Mr. Ripley meets Catch Me If You Can. I mean the guy
hoodwinked everyone. He was very ambiguous and sketchy quite quite honestly about
what the company did and how it made so much money overnight.
What prosecutors allege in the indictment is that most of that $12,000 goes directly
to Santos's personal bank account.
I would go down these rabbit holes and start thinking about what is the nature of truth?
What can I actually tell the reader is real about this guy's story. My phone is literally blowing up inquiries about saying, is George going to jail?
What's going on?
And I'm like, why are you doing this?
Like, why?
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I mean, it's hard, but, hey, it be like that sometimes.
Just like when I bumped into you at Neimus Markers that time.
Right.
And that's where we was shopping or whatever.
And I had a homeboy in mind like, man, you finna go to Neimus Markers?
Yeah.
Man, I'm finna go with you too, man.
I need you to give me some shit.
Nah, fam, you can go with dealers.
I can get you all the Polo, Rave Lo, and you won't.
You know what?
I'm just saying, I can get you some Polo, my Ralph Lauren, you won't, you know, I'm just saying I can get you some polo my G
But I'm going to name, I'm finna get a little something different cuz I work for that bro. Know what I'm saying?
I might spend $2,000 here. I can't spend four if you come at four thousand
Bro, you got to be able to save his money money easy to get hard to keep I'm learning that right now, bro
Because we look at it like man. I got this coming back in and sometimes I'm learning that right now, bro, because we look at it like,
man, I got this coming back in. And sometimes it don't work like that, bro.
You know, shit, everything don't last forever, bro.
You got to put this money back, bro.
And you got to make small investments like me.
I'm investing all my money in the holes.
I know I'm going to get the return back.
I told my dad and they say, son, that's the best investment
I ever heard in my life.
But now I don't like.
It's crazy, because I mean, you was you being a good friend,
you told him like, you know, I give you something.
But it's like a lot of times with friends and family,
they feel like they they deserve everything
that you buy for yourself.
Like you go buy yourself right now
whatever car you want or whatever designer shoes you want.
They feel like they deserve that too,
cause they family.
Like nah, like I'ma look out for you,
but you don't get to get what I get.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's crazy bro, it's crazy.
And what I wanna know is,
is we the only race that do that to one another.
Do white people do each other like that?
Do Mexicans do each other like that, bro?
It's like it's always us.
And when you don't help them, they wish bad things on.
Oh, man, you man, you're going to lose everything you got.
Oh, ho, I can get out. Come on, man.
Is it really that deep?
Man, I don't think I don't think every race is like that because I mean, as a people,
we just obviously we we the most downtrodden race.
I don't think like other races when somebody in a family makes it.
First of all, obviously, like we the we the poorest race.
So like, when it comes to like other races and stuff like that, you know, it seems like everybody got something going on,
but when it come to our race,
it ain't a lot going on.
That's just the sad reality of it.
But I think culturally, we push this on ourselves.
Like I noticed what other races and stuff like that
when I be, you know, around other people,
it's just like, if somebody got a lot going on,
they family members don't really be expecting
that much from them.
It's like culturally, it's just like, nah,
I know that that's his.
That's just what I've observed.
Like how you said, cause that's just like,
me and my situation, I be around a lot of people,
this and that, Flo or whoever you, and people like, man, you ever asked, I don't ask nobody for
nothing.
Right.
I got my own shit on building, bro.
It's like people don't know how to network no more, bro.
Like true story.
And I tell people from T Mac to shack to Floyd, just off networking, just being around them,
bro.
You know how much cocksuckers money I made, bro. Right. Just just being around them and using my leverage.
Hey, man, I want to give you this. How are you going to give me this?
You see the kind of people that rock with me?
I don't know, Floyd. I don't know, Shaq.
The motherfuckers know me. It's a difference.
So when I go, I'm using what I call Floyd right now.
I guarantee you, Floyd, they don't like this deal.
You trying to give me right floor.
I face time. Hey, what's up, Doug?
I hang up.
I want you to say you want to live in.
You know, because you have to be, you know, you have to be on certain people.
Sometimes people try to downplay you, bro, and don't try to give you what you
want and you know, you if somebody offered me five hundred thousand right true story. I know I'm worth five five me
You try to give me five hundred thousand. I know I'm worth five me
It's simply simple math in it, but I try to tell people now that you know somebody that's trying to get into the
Cuz I'm a real comedian bro. I'm gonna stand there comedian like that's my first get into the. Because I'm a real comedian, bro, I'm
almost standing there, comedian, like
that's my first love.
This is what I do.
I think a lot of content creators now
that's getting a little money now doing
skits, this and that.
And they call them they self comedians.
You're not a comedian, man.
I tell them that.
Right.
Read the mediums, get on that stage
like Bernie Mac, Richard Pryor and all
the greats used to do.
Get it in.
Because that's one thing I'm telling everybody who go and do stand up.
You got a job for life.
Every weekend I can go do a show, fam.
Every weekend, God has blessed me, I can go anywhere in the week and do a show and make
hella money.
But I don't just want to be in one box, Cooper.
That's why I tell people I translated to the sports side. I'm trying to now at the end of the games, when y'all go in them locker
room, y'all get tired of asking them bum ass questions, like from the reporters, but just
your job. I want to be able to come in, hey, Coop Newton, I'm saying you, but anybody,
hey, you know, say you look a little tired. Is it the whole? It's just something to lighten up your day because you could be going through anything
in the office.
So you don't have to answer that.
But it's something to brighten up your day.
The old media people, they they they are they all bring in the new somebody that want to
ask somebody some real question what's going on in here whether you answer or whether you don't
But I'm gonna make you laugh and brighten up your day. Hey coupe a fam eight catches buck 50
Oh, you were getting in the day you get and I wanna see it again next week
Right, right. I ever talk to y'all like that
Nobody say hey, man, you had 150 or you balling
I want to see it again like kind of like, you know competing
Like I know you got 150 this week. Let's get one day
Mm-hmm. I know it's human beings and people look at look low look at y'all like, you know icons which y'all are
But y'all go through shit like everybody else go through man
Y'all leave just like we bleed man. Like I know sometimes y'all might hear. oh man, I had a bad, y'all know y'all had a bad game.
Y'all know this?
No, for sure.
I won't let you know.
But before I let you know.
No, we know you won't let us know.
We know that.
I'm gonna look at the stats, though,
because I can't come over here and get on you
and you ain't got but two targets.
See, I can't come over here and call you traitors
and you ain't got but two targets.
I got to look and see what the offensive line did, what the quarterback did.
So it's a lot.
She's like, it's a lot going through the game.
Cool.
You know what I'm saying?
So I do my research before I come over and tell people something like for a while
people be like, Hey man, you can't call LeBron trend.
The brung ain't got to me.
No.
Right.
The nigga five for 30 trash tonight.
I know he can, but I'm gonna let him know it. I don't for 30, trash tonight. I know he the king, but I'm going to let him know it.
I don't give a damn about it having no bill.
I don't give a damn how much money you got, nigga.
You trash tonight.
Come back out here tomorrow and ball.
Because you're fucking up my prospects.
That's just me.
I'm the guy going to let you know.
And nigga ain't no disrespect though.
But the thing is, obviously, players have different stages
in their career, right?
But to your point, and what you trying to do
when it comes to sports, media, being in the locker rooms,
et cetera, like how you just said, bro,
we humans at the end of the day, people don't,
I don't know why people don't understand that.
It's like, and most of us is from similar environments, bro.
We come from, we come from the projects,
you know what I'm saying?
Like we all grew up around somebody like you, you know,
who like making jokes and stuff like that.
So when we see you doing it, that's why I went,
bro, when I met you, I was like, yo,
I remember the first thing you said,
hey bro, it's just jokes.
I'm like, I ain't tripping off.
Because like it's like, bro, like we we used to that. Like this is how we grew up.
We grew up joking, cracking.
Like it's it's we understand, bro.
Like it's funny.
You know what I'm saying?
Like. But I guess they want people to get the wrong perception when I say trash,
because people take that like they was trying to do until they know now like no I'm not degrading nobody in it because first of all everybody can't
make it to the pro month everybody can't make it to the NBA I'm not saying that they are trash person
I don't know you personally to do that that's not that's not who I am I'm gonna rock like that I'm
just saying this game like you're saying and I like the fact that you understood that because
that's the first thing I said I'm not you, because it's funny, it's funny,
because the week before that, I called you trans.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
But look, but look, this a thing though,
this a thing though, it's like,
you got different levels and calibers of athletes too.
You got some who like me, who,
like they know they skilled, bro, like they know they skilled,
bro, like they know they really like that.
So it's just like every athlete who has that mindset,
they their own biggest critic anyway.
So I know when I had a bad game, you know what I'm saying?
So if I know it, I know somebody else know it.
So I don't mind what nobody say.
The only thing is just have that same energy.
That's why I respect like certain
certain media guys I respect because if they they said x y z about me and I wouldn't prove them
wrong and they recanted that they said you know what I was wrong about that ultimate respect
because it was just an opinion at the end of the day and you realize that your opinion was wrong you you probably
Motivated me to go even harder if I seen it so you say that because I think Anthony Davis like that
We go to the game. It mean floor. We're on the
Course side right and I'm you know, I always get on get on his behind or whatever Paul
You know do you because I feel like Anthony Davis one of the top NBA players as to as to way I look at him
You know, do you because I feel like Anthony David one of the top NBA players as to as to way I look at him
When he's healthy, right and um went to the game floored was be i'm telling this to the world floored mayweather missing
Brought me to that game to put me on the front row just because they can see me because they know I be talking trash about
So I'm telling floored like man players gonna whip your ass. I'm like champ. I got a lot of love out here It ain't what you think I say when I come to these games
Watch how they when they see me how they react true story. They playing the Portland Trailblazers
Damien Lillard now
Soon as we go in the fans trash they see me they don't say they they rocking with me or whatever. I see people on portland bench
Tapping each other pointing
at me. True story. So I get somebody pointing to Anthony to David, let him know I was there. He going
there, make a shot. He look at me. He ain't say nothing. He go down there and don't look at me, run
by. You trans, nigga. You trans. And I'm like, flaunting him. Like I told you, I'm like, nigga,
that's what I want. I want that I want that kind of um
Energy from him now. He's locked in now. I feel like okay
Do you play us know what I'm saying now?
They know if they see me in the building they got to come on with it
That's my whole objective if to get you cuz sometimes we hear me. We don't feel good, man
I'm not saying you but some really obviously like man. I don't feel good that man
I'm trying to get by three or four catches and I'll be good.
Fuck that.
Try to get as many as you can get, fam.
That's not a win.
Go get to me today, Cooper.
We're going to get to even though it ain't realistically because the way you got to
spread the ball around the quarterback, this and that.
But I want to motivate you.
I got my own way of motivating people.
Like when I went out to Colorado with Coach Prime then,
true story, I told them last year, y'all were trash.
I seen that.
Yeah, I seen that.
I got, bro, I gotta be real with me.
I gotta be real in my, I can't sit up here
and tell you, Cooper, hey man,
ain't drop passes this game, man.
You still the beast.
You win this game?
What kind of friend of mine, I'm gonna tell you the truth, bro.
But see that-
I just think you're a man.
I think that's something people gotta understand too.
I once heard like, like motivation is like,
like taking a shower, like you need it every day.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you ain't gonna take a shower today and be like,
man, I'm good the next Saturday.
Like, nah, you need it.
You need it.
You need it every day.
So like, I try to pull it from wherever I could pull it from.
All right, Bubba Dub called me trash last week.
I mean, I'm motivated, I'm locked in now.
Okay, this happened.
Okay, this happened.
I'm trying to pull it.
I'm trying to, I need as much as I could get.
Cause I know at the end of the day, I just want to be the best bro. So, you know what I'm trying to I need as much as I could get. Because I know at the end of the day, I just want to be the best, bro.
So, you know, I'm saying, like, I just need I just need all that motivation
I could get, bro. That's how I am.
After the game in Colorado, Travis Hunter come to me.
Who tries not to look? Yeah.
That's what I like. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Three TV. Yeah.
But I think I think now, too, I think now too like,
when I was at the Cowboys,
you ain't have as big a following that you had.
You had a big following.
No, he wasn't liking this, no.
That's what I'm saying.
Now it's even bigger.
So like, you call somebody trash, nah, they done seen it.
I don't think everybody seen it back then.
Like they might've seen it if there was a plan
for the Cowboys or the Mavericks or something.
But nah, everybody seen it.
You call somebody trash.
So, I mean, hey, like, you hang around Floyd.
Floyd always say when he like be showing off his money,
he be showing off his cars and stuff,
he say you either gonna be, you either gonna hate
or you gonna be motivated.
So I feel like it's the same way with you.
Like if you, if you tell the truth
and say somebody played or performed trash this week,
either they gonna hate you for saying that
or they gonna be motivated.
Me, I'd rather take the motivation route
because I know you weren't lying.
I know you weren't lying.
I just, people be sensitive, bro.
Like this is sports, bro.
You chose to be in the NFL.
You chose to be in the NBA.
You knew everybody was going to be watching the game.
That's what you signed up for.
So I don't know, bro.
I just think people mindsets be messed up, bro.
They be worried about the wrong thing, bro.
You know you play, you know you ain't had the best game.
You done had four points.
You done took 10 shots. I don't have four points. You took 10 shots.
I don't know, bro. I don't know.
But that would make us all different.
You know, like everybody in my frame, right?
Like, you know, your attitude, your mentality to the game.
So let's talk about that game day.
What's your what's your game day rituals?
I know most players have rituals before the
game. What's something that you got to do every game?
Something that I got? I mean, I've prayed before every game. I mean, as far as rituals,
bro, I don't really believe in rituals. Like I'm not that guy who I got to wear the same
socks every game. I'm not that guy who I got to, I got to drive the same car every game,
got to listen to the same music.
I don't believe in that, bro.
Like I don't believe in that.
I believe in preparation.
I believe in studying the opponent,
knowing the playbook, just being prepared, bro.
Knowing what you up against, going out there,
practicing to the best of your ability so that you,
cause the confidence comes from practice.
You know what I'm saying?
So I just believe in being prepared, bro.
So I think those two things, you know,
send up a prayer of course,
and just being prepared, bro, being prepared.
Have you ever had sex before a game and balled out?
Like what you mean?
Like the day of the game?
Yeah, hours.
Oh. Like what you mean like the day of the game? Yeah hours. Oh And you have I'm talking about you you just
Unstoppable game like no
No, I don't I don't like you ride and take a game you ride to the game
Well, if you got a driver you ride to the game you it's only you little you man
No, I'm sure I was trying to think of something but now I know why I can't think of a reason why
is because we stay in a hotel tonight before the game. We stay in our hotel, so we be by
ourselves. And I just drive right to the game. So, nah, I ain't never. But I'm not, like
I said-
Not supposed to.
Nah, I like to be, like the day before the game
and the day of the game, I'm so locked in.
Sex not on my mind, bro.
Like I really love the game, bro.
Like I really take the game, see, I really respect the game.
So it was just like, I'm not thinking about no sex
or no female before the game.
I'm really not, I'm really just thinking about the game.
I'm thinking about how I can maximize this opportunity, because, I mean, as you know,
bro, you know, this game will last forever, bro.
So like, right.
Correct. I try to take it serious, bro.
Yeah, you're right.
Especially in the NFL, the life expectancy,
I mean, expectancy of a football players with four or five years.
Yeah, about four years, bro. Three and a half. Yeah. Yeah.
So it's not that is and it's a cutthroat lead.
It's not like the NBA where everything is guaranteed.
Yeah. And this is a physical sports and that's, you know, and that's something
I don't know if they will ever change.
But, you know, I would be curry gets got what one year, 62 million.
All of it guaranteed brother.
Oh, that's crazy.
But the back to what you get said though taxes.
Yeah.
And like we like, you know, we know, but most people he got 62 million coming this year.
No, he don't.
It's crazy.
But that's probably about 33 million, man.
Yeah.
And you got to think he. gotta think, he in the highest.
Yeah, and he in the highest tax bracket.
So he ain't even seeing half of that.
He's seeing less than half of that,
because he in Cali.
So, but nah, I mean, obviously it's still a lot of money,
but that's the thing people don't really be understanding.
Yeah, he gotta eat curry, of course, but.
No, everything ain't what it seems.
Say this is a facade, man.
Something else I want to
talk to you about, you know, just you just gave us your breakdown
on how you prepare for the game. You ain't thinking about that.
You you locked in.
Have anybody ever mistaken you with Tyreek from Pow?
Man, I get that a lot, bro.
I don't know why, bro.
I'm 30, I think Tyreek, what?
I don't know, he's like 20 something.
I don't know, bro, but bro, I get that.
He's got a baby face, fam, so that's a blessing.
Yeah, I guess it's a blessing, but yo,
like you understand, bro, like when,
especially when the show was on,
man, people used to be calling me Tyree.
Like, it's crazy, cause on social media,
they're DMing me, DMing me, DMing me, DMing me, Tyree, Tyree.
Even on a lot of my pictures, you go into my pictures.
But in person, they know I'm not,
like they'll be like, you look like Tyree,
but they know I'm not him.
Because, you know, I'm an athlete, I'm big, I'm I'm six to I got muscles, but I get that a lot, bro.
It's crazy.
I don't think people who ain't never met you or see you actually know the size of you
don't like that. Like you six to you ain't no skinny receiver.
You like you got some book to you.
Yeah. And I was thinking a lot of players from Alabama.
What was Nick Saban feeding y'all though?
It's like everybody else is smaller compared to Bamal.
Like, what y'all eating?
I think for me, when I got to Bamal, bro, I was 180,
like 180 pounds.
And one month, no exaggeration, one month, 30 days,
I was 200 pounds.
I gained 20 pounds.
And but you got to think, like, growing up, where I grew up,
I was really, I won't say malnutritious,
but I wouldn't eat in every meal.
It's different when you got money.
You got a little money now above and above.
You can eat anything you want at any time you want.
You can go to, as simple as it sounds, bro,
like you can go to McDonald's or Wendy's,
like I don't eat McDonald's no more,
but you can go to McDonald's or Wendy's
any time you want right now.
Growing up in the hood, that was a luxury, bro.
To go get a Big Mac for about, what?
You know?
You know what I'm saying?
So like, I say that to say when I got to Bama,
we had the dining hall right by the,
the, the, the, the, the, the dorm room.
And the food was good.
And it was all you can eat.
You can take it with you.
You can take as many drinks you want.
Man, growing up, how I grew up, I couldn't, you know,
you can't get, you can't, you can't pour that jug
in more than two, three cups.
Boy, you out of there.
You drinking all the juice.
Like, so it was different.
So I got up there, I was eating a lot.
Cause I'm like, they just gonna let me take these plates
to the roll, they gonna let me take these?
Like I couldn't believe it.
I'm taking to go places.
They got steak in there, chicken tenders.
I'm like, they so I could just take,
I could take some, right?
I couldn't believe it.
I couldn't believe it, bro.
I'm taking like, oh, I'm taking about 10 Gatorades.
And then on top of that, to your point,
what Coach Saban got us eating and doing,
like we used to lift, bro.
Like the lift was like, I think like an hour and a half
straight, you couldn't walk in the weight room.
You had to jog to every station.
You had a person over you watching every rep.
So you can't miss no reps. And me, I would, I would go like, if I had 10 reps or something,
I'd do like 12 because it didn't make no sense to me to be doing everything that everybody
else doing. So if he doing 10, now I want to do 12. You know what I'm saying? So that's
how I got so big and so, so so strong so fast. Who your who your top three wide receivers of Alabama?
Three. Yeah, we're doing five.
We do. That's tough. That's tough.
Three. Three. Not five. Three.
Ah, three.
Man, you put me in a spot, boy.
You put me in a spot.
All right, I'm gonna take myself out.
I'm gonna take myself out.
I gotta go...
That door is tough.
Yeah, that's tough, girl.
That's tough.
Can I do five, bro?
Let me do five. Do you five, do you do five, bro? Let me do five.
Do you five? All right. Let me do five.
OK, we're going to go. No order, right?
I ain't got to go no. No, no, no, no.
All right. So I'm going to go.
I'm going to go Julio.
Uh, Judy, Calvin.
Waddle. Smitty.
Yes.
I like it.
Now I had to do five.
You put me in a spot, man.
Alabama, bro, we had we
why receive you?
What was your 40 time?
At the come on for for for for two.
Yeah.
So to for for two for for two.
You know, but you got football speed, though.'s still fast. 4-4-2 is fast, bro.
Like a lot of people like, oh, but he ain't running no 4-2, 4-3, but your route running
the abilities like Jerry Rice, what, 4-5, they say, 4-6?
He was a 4-6, I think, yeah.
But you can't tell on film, you know, like some people got football speed, bro.
Yeah, yeah, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it's just like, you know,
it's just like anything else, bro.
Make sure you, like with speed,
so when you talk about speed,
you break it down scientifically.
Like we football, we professional athletes,
so we break these things down into the simplest form.
So when you break speed down into the simplest form. So we break speed down to the simplest form is a stride length
times stride frequency.
So what is stride length?
You know how when somebody run and you'd be like,
oh boy, you got stride.
It's because like with every step,
every step is long.
It looks long.
That's stride length.
Stride frequency is how fast the legs move.
You ever seen a short guy running,
the legs moving like this? That's stride length. Stride frequency is how fast the legs move. You ever seen a short guy running and the legs moving like this?
That's stride frequency.
So speed is that times stride length.
Stride length times stride frequency.
So then the question is, how do you get your stride frequency up?
Well how do you get your stride length up?
How do you get your stride length up?
It's all about technique.
It's all about lifting.
Weight room and technique.
Those are two things that's going to get you faster. So you need the weight room because
it's going to get you stronger. So every step you take, if your legs are strong, that means
every step you take, boom, it's so powerful that you'll be jumping in the air. You'll
be propelling. So that stride length will be long. You know what I'm saying? And then as far as stride frequency, same thing, bro.
Strength too, strength and technique.
The fact like you, as soon as your leg hit the ground,
boom, you trying to get it to hit the ground again.
So it's all about technique and strength.
So yeah, you gotta work on your speed, man,
especially if you're gonna be a dynamic receiver.
You don't have to be fast. You don, especially if you're gonna be a dynamic receiver.
You don't have to be fast.
You don't have to be fast to be a good receiver though, but it's part of being a dynamic receiver,
you know, after the catch, things of that nature.
So yeah.
Hey, it's Jake Halpern.
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What's the toughest hit? What's the toughest tackle you ever took?
And what did he get to?
Ooh, I think it was last year.
I ain't gonna lie to you, girl.
Because usually, this the thing, because Bubba, I know you're trying to up your football
knowledge.
I be seeing you talk about sports.
It seem like you're a real sports fan, so you know your stuff, but you know, you can always know more.
So like with a receiver, one of the biggest hurdles to get over,
believe it or not, playing receiver is being able to go across that middle
and take that hit because.
It's just it's just something about a guy hitting you who you can't see.
That's a fear that you got to get over.
So I mean, early on, I used to be like, man, I ain't trying to go across that middle.
You know what I'm saying?
But you ain't going to never really be a great receiver if you can't make those tough catches
across the middle.
You know what I'm saying?
But one of the things I realized that helped
me get over that was the fact that every time I go across the middle, I'm fearing something
that ain't there. You know what I'm saying? And then when I finally did start taking those
hits, they didn't really hurt. Like none of them really hurt at all. So I was like, oh,
this receiver junk ain't what they making it seem like them hits that you
see on TV.
Oh, they don't really be hurting like that, bro.
I mean, you got on a helmet and shoulder pads and stuff like that.
So and then it's all about pain tolerance, too.
But I say that to say last year after playing receiver for so long, but I took a hit and
it hurt.
Because you crossed the movie. What?
It hurt. Let me just say it is.
I'm trying to be funny, but I know you got no players.
Respect player. It wasn't Jamison that do it was.
Who? Winston.
Now he wasn't on the team last year. He was on the same.
OK, he was. He was out now.
He's a great teammate, by the he's a great teammate by the way,
I rock with Winston.
Yeah, that's my boy, that's my boy.
Nah man, but boy, ooh.
I got so, it was a shallow cross.
It was a late ball, it was a very late ball.
And I, see every time I got hit hard,
I knew the guy was gonna hit me, but me being me, I'm like, I got hit hard, I knew the guy was going to hit me.
But me being me, I'm like, I still got to go catch this.
It's a lot of receivers who will pull up and be like, nah, I feel them coming.
I ain't pause.
I feel them.
But I ain't going to go catch this.
But anyway, I felt the guy, you know what I'm saying?
I seen him in my peripheral a little bit.
I don't even think I've seen him.
I just I felt that he was on his way.
I say I put I felt that he was on his way.
I say I put it like that and I still reached out forward and I got he hit me with the crown of his helmet in my ribs, bro, like and it felt like I got shot,
bro, because like if you go back and watch it when I got hit, I like curled up
on the ground and I what happened was I like, he knocked the wind out of me.
So it felt like I got shot, like I can't breathe.
Nah, I ain't playing, I'm not playing.
I'm, bro, I'm like this for like 15 seconds, bro.
Like, I couldn't breathe, but I just hurt.
And that was the hardest hit I took, I would say for sure. I couldn't breathe, but I just hurt.
And that was the hardest hit I took, I would say for sure. But you being who you is,
and we know you ain't gonna never upstage the quarterback.
That's why I never been there to fail,
because I'm running to him.
Like you say, number one, the ball late.
Oh, that motherfucker just fell like that, dawg.
Come on, man.
But what can you do?
But this one was saying.
Shit, choke him in the locker room.
Shit.
Bro, you a wide receiver, bro.
You all pro on your way to a Hall of Fame career, bro.
Like, you got to have better judgment, bro.
Don't believe me until that damn line.
You need me. We got, I got, you need me better judgment, bro. Don't believe me until that damn line. You need me.
We got, I got, you need me rest of the game.
You gonna fucking lose me.
Don't want to get nothing like that.
Cause me, like you say, some players pull up.
That's me.
I'm pulling up every time and pointing,
I won't be in the league.
I ain't, I been a guy, I been a diggertone with your brown.
Leave during the game.
I ain't got nothing after this shit.
You gonna point to him on the field?
Hell yo!
Shit!
Come on, dog.
See, that's why you know you smart,
you a great rider receiver, you a great teammate.
But I'm saying me, bro,
I would have caused a scene on that motherfucking sideline.
They gonna have to call a timeout. The're going to have to call a timeout.
The real school had to call a timeout.
Come over and get this shit right between me and this quad bag.
Because at the end of the day, this is a team sport.
Right.
I'm out for me, too.
I ain't trying to have it.
It's me at the end of the year.
We can go on 17.
I had 1800, you're receiving.
God damn it.
That's me. go 0 and 17. I had 1800 y'all receiving, god damn it. I had 130, that's me.
0 and 17, now, but see, now this the thing though,
bubba doe, I ain't gonna lie to you.
I hear what you saying, but that's a perspective
of a guy who ain't been in no 18 week long season,
bro, because I'm gonna tell you like this.
When you win it, season go by fast.
When you lose it.
It's like you plan for two years straight and every day coming into that locker room is like, why am I here, bro?
It's like I'm I'm sure you work the job to where you just say never want to go.
Like you ain't you ain't want to get up for that job, but you might needed the money yeah that's how i feel when you when you losing bro it don't
feel good bro you trust me you don't want to go no 0 and 17 and have 1800 yards i mean you might
get a good contract out of that but whole point okay and i and i feel you on that we all got to
eat but you don't want to go through that bro bro. You don't like to say to people who watch, I could understand
and see what Calvin Johnson was coming from.
Like you just said. Exactly.
And I and I know that personally, I know Kevin personally, bro,
because he when I was a young book at the Raiders, he had just retired, too.
He had a couple of coaches that coach for us.
So he came and helped us out a little bit. And so, you know, me, naturally, I'm chopping it up with him, because this is a guy who
went for 1,900 yards in his league, future Hall of, I mean, did he make the Hall of Fame
this year?
I think he made the Hall of Calvin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, or previously, I don't know.
He made, he'll go Jack and Moon for sure.
Yeah.
But, yeah, so I'm chopping it up with him, you know soaking in everything
He put his he put his whole life on the line for that organization man
I if you if you meet Kevin and you look at his fingers like you see me
I got this one finger like this. It's kind of like a bit you see it up. Oh
Yeah, thank you man. Like so you look at this, Pinky, it's just a regular, regular.
How you do that?
So I did this at Bama.
I know I did this at the Raiders.
Finger in the holes.
That's how you did that.
Now we did that at Bama on a tackle or a catch.
Nah, I ain't catch the ball.
It was actually my first game we played in Michigan. And tried to catch the ball, came down wrong
and it was really messed up.
And they had to pop it back in plays during the game.
But if you look at Calvin's fingers,
he got like, so you got 10 fingers.
He got like four fingers like this, but worse.
I'm talking about they all messed up.
Cause you know Stafford, he threw a hard ball man.
I heard that I heard you had one of the strongest arms in the league. Yeah, for sure. No doubt.
So, man, all his fingers mess up.
And you look at him, they look they they way worse than this.
I'm like, how you caught the ball like that?
Like his fingers messed up.
He like, hey, I just I just did it.
But, um, yeah, bro, Calvin, he went through a lot, man.
So he, Barry Sanders too,
when they was losing with the Lions, bro,
like it's a reason some of these guys
only played nine, 10 years, bro.
When you know those could have been the guys
that played 16 years, made six more years
worth of millions and millions of dollars,
they was the best players at the position,
but I don't know, bro.
Sometimes it just don't be worth it to those guys
to come in year in and year out
to be going two and 14, three and, you know what I mean?
Like those years.
And then, you know, guys be having kids,
like they'd rather spend that time with their kids, bro,
than to be going out here losing every game
and the organization not doing nothing about it.
So, yeah.
Yeah, that's, yeah.
Looking at y'all hands, like I say, man,
y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all at war out there.
Even though the league, as people say, it's soft, man.
It's just different errors, man.
Just like the NBA, the NBA ain't the same no more.
It's different errors, man. You got to protect the errors, man. You're like the NBA. The NBA ain't the same no more. It's different errors, man.
You got to protect the investments, man.
The NFL, NBA networks getting $8, $10 billion deals.
They got to have to start playing us out there, bro.
They can't have my own energy.
Ain't nobody going to want to watch.
But let me ask you a question.
I just started something.
Cause I know you was like,
we was just talking about the trash thing.
And I was just telling you how I don't take offense to it
You know I'm saying
in your
Stand-up career. Have you ever been booed?
Never been booed. You never been booed, but you seen people who done been booed, right?
I didn't see people been booed, but to pick out your point. I
Didn't perform some nights when people say man you did great. I didn't feel like I did
I can perform some nights when people say, man, you did great.
I didn't feel like I did.
Yeah, exactly.
After every freaking show, so somebody like you did great in my mind.
I was trying to my delivery wasn't right.
I might have stood alone a couple of jokes, but, you know, because of who we are,
the people are, man, you killed it now.
I ain't kill it.
It's the thing I got to work on In my mind, you trash tonight, Doug.
So I have somebody like my right-hand man that's known to hook this up whatever on my
right side.
Like, though, you gotta...
This is what I learned, Coop.
I started trying to please people instead of being who got me here.
What got me here was me never smiling.
Just even though I'm happy inside, but I just got that meme of, that's the people they want
to see on stage.
And I'm telling that joke, I ain't smiling.
I'm telling, I'm looking you dead in your eyes and delivering this shit.
That's what I had to learn.
Because I was trying to be Jerry Morgan on stage.
People paid their money to see Bubba Dull.
That's a fact.
So when I learned how to be who I am on the videos on stage,
my career just took off.
But I always worked behind the scenes.
I always worked on my material.
I don't have to come out and joke on the crowd.
A lot of people joke on the crowd because they
ain't got no material.
I ain't never got to say nothing to the crowd.
I can just come out there and do my thing.
And people love it.
So for me, how I am, like you saying, you don't.
And I need to take that approach too, because sometimes I do be feeling like when they had
a top five, top ten comedians and my name never get picked.
And I'm a different kind of comedian because I don't do skits.
Like, like, yeah, I'm a wordplay. I'm a different kind of comedian because I don't do skits like like yeah I'm a wordplay. I'm a wordplay. These comedians ain't talking how I'm talking when I'm
they ain't doing that so I was like okay cool okay let me just really
storytell this shit now. So who your top five comedians? Top five comedians
Richard Pryor. All time I guess right now. Let me see. Let me see.
Let's go. Well, when I did my top five, we did right now.
So let's do right now. Right now. Top five.
Corey Hokel. You put yourself in or you take yourself up.
OK. OK. OK.
We'll go earthquake.
Gotta go Dave Chappelle. I mean, that's only right.
Cat Williams.
For sure. For sure.
If I would go
Ali Shadiq.
Gotta check him out. If you ain't been up on him, check him out.
I think I think I know you.
Like I be I'm a I love
I love I love stand up comedy,
bro. I love it.
My favorite all time is, you know, Bernie
Matt. I assume she's one of your favorite too.
What?
So this is what get me about
I'm learning.
Everybody ain't gonna like you, coupe. No matter what you do
Everybody ain't gonna like you. That's the fact so when I hear people and it gets me personally
And I'm gonna say this to say that if not here people say oh man, you ain't funny
Then Bernie Mac ain't funny new
Yeah, I speak the same raw shit he speak.
That's why, yeah.
He's a comedian.
Like, I don't, like, everybody's comedy is different from my comedy.
My comedy, I make your stomach hurt in my motherfucking shows.
I ain't gotta do no corny shit.
I'm just speaking life experiences, bro.
And that's all I'm doing here.
Life experiences, me getting on here, just talking.
Ain't nothing written.
That's talent. That's improv.
A lot of people got to
be coached to do this.
This shit gets in me, bro, like three point two star.
We got this report at the 50 cent thing.
Right. He already telling people like.
They sleeping on you.
So let me tell you how comedians do. You got everybody there. Dave Chappelle, DC Young Fly, Matt Strife, the white boy, Cole.
Big heavy wagers in the hip hop, I mean the comedy game heavy wagers.
You got comedians, oh man I'm gonna go out there and do my little thing and come off.
I'm the only one wore a suit.
I'm the only one wore a suit bro, cause I know opportunities like this don't come that much because people just look at me
as an internet comedian. Right.
So I'm the only one war suit. They will laugh.
How are you in this suit?
They kind of talk to me for I go.
I'm not trying to hear a motherfucking thing. Right.
Like I got eight minutes.
I'm going to get this crowd all eight motherfucking minutes.
They stole the show.
Stole the motherfucking show. I come off set, you got the engineers, they come to me. Oh my fucking
God. Yeah. We know. Yeah. We know. And you know me, I'm like, I've been telling y'all, but y'all don't
want to listen, but it's cool. Now I got the light on me now. Now I can show and I'll show y'all what I can do. I show you what I can do amongst
the best. And I haven't had I haven't been around the the cat wheels, bro, or the day she pays or
the more I want to learn. I haven't most I'm not knocking all the comedians who had that opportunity
to be around them. But I ain't broke. I had to drive two or three hours to Dallas or Houston to try to do open mics.
Yeah.
People don't understand what it took to get to where I'm at.
They can look at your phone.
Oh, you're an internet comedian.
No, I can do it with the best though.
I just need that light on me.
That's why I'm just working and working and working.
But my passion is comedy is stand up.
But my other is sports.
That's why I want to learn the game.
I just don't want to be out here.
You trash and just talking shit.
I'm talking shit, but I'm speaking facts
about what I'm seeing.
It's all opinion at the end of the day.
I'm just calling it like I see.
I had so many people in my DM, bro.
Man, you got a car running trash.
He a kid to me. Right. I believe in anybody, bro. Man, you got to call Brungy Traz. He a kid to me.
Right.
Um, I believe in anybody, bro. I come from the dirt. I'll be a hypocrite. I meant to say that boy ain't gonna make it. We know
he ain't brun. We all know that he is on man. So I it like it
be on people. Are you selling out? That's a kid to me, bro.
I'm in my mid 30s, bro.
I got his age.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why I don't.
I did it, but just to just to just to
to instill something in them, but I don't like college kids trying
now, bro, because they still kids 20 2021 to me, they still kids to me.
So I'll be willing to be like, you know, I want to be a motivator, bro.
That's the thing.
I want teams to call me in and talk to y'all.
And because, like you say, a lot of people don't come from we come from Cooper.
And it's not nobody's fault.
Some people born with silver spoons.
I wasn't.
Right. Right.
So, bro, Cooper, we used to go to funeral just to eat.
I tell this story all the time, bro.
That's tough. We didn't know who we dead.
Didn't give a damn what y'all eating out.
I'm the only black dude that a white man free.
True story.
I ain't no Dave Newb color.
See, he knew me.
Hey, you told that to my thing.
Yeah, kill every time.
Nah, that's cool.
Hey, you got the Alabama, I can take all this.
Cause you know when you go to the Fremont,
they gonna give you albums to go place.
I got five of them loaded up.
Yeah.
Yeah, I ain't got to worry about spending no money.
I got, what's that, what, what's that, what?
Baked chicken, Caggies?
Stream beans?
I'm good.
Yeah.
I know what it takes to come from the bottom
and working my way up to the top.
That's one thing Floyd told me.
He said, bro, one thing I like about you, bro,
you're a hard worker.
He said, bro, I got a lot of people around me,
but they always want me to give them something.
You ain't ask me for shit. I don't want shit, bro. It's a blessing just to be around me, but they always want me to give them something. You ain't ask me for shit.
I don't want shit, bro.
It's a blessing just to be around you, bro.
I'm still surprised how you even freaking know me.
Yeah, like people ask me, how do we feel to be around y'all?
I don't know, because everything is happening so fast.
I haven't had time to get sit back and get soaked again.
And when people see me with a picture with you and I feel like they can't
regular people, bro. Right. They see me with a picture with you and I'll be like, man, how I feel like they can regular people, bro.
Right.
But they see everybody is different.
So now when I go to Colorado, so my support to prime.
Oh, man, you guys, man, you should put in this school,
go support HBCUs and this and that.
I'm supporting my brother at the end of the day.
I didn't reach out to Eddie George.
I would love to come down there and do the same thing I'm doing for Coach Brian do for him.
That's my, that's what I want to do.
Anybody and I'm not places or nothing like that, but I'm saying I want to
support my brothers that's in power right now.
I want to better come up to these colleges, come on the sideline,
chop it up with these kids.
I want to put a spotlight on the kids that's on these teams.
They ain't got a big name.
That's bowling. Come on to the show spotlight on the kids that's on these teams. They ain't got a big name. That's ballin
Come on to the show, bro. Let me shout you out. Let me put some people on you
I got a guy that helped me build a platform now
Somebody gonna see you now what you do with this opportunity is on you. I don't want shit from me
I just want to be the guy to say I want the unknown to be known
That's what I'm trying to do. So I won't play us to come on this show.
Nobody really know and pull a spotlight on.
And then you start balling.
There you go.
Yeah.
Office alignments are people that I think some of the office alignments don't get
the credit they deserve because we got their protection.
The quarterback don't get the yard.
You don't get the yard.
You get gotta have time to throw the ball.
But all we see is the quarterback, it's the quarterback.
Now it's the offensive line to you.
See what Andy Reed done done for Pat Mahomes?
Yeah, it's all about protection.
And I know it's a lot goes into the quarterback making his reads.
Like you say, throwing the ball on time, holding the ball too long
sometimes can result in sex.
I know this shit. Yeah, yeah.
Offensive line is where it's at.
And like you said, you got Miles Garry, great defense.
If they control the line of scrimmage,
you can win some games, man.
But it sounds so easy, but it's not.
It sounds easy, but it's not.
Yeah, because I mean, to your point,
the game blocking and tackling,
that's what it's gonna come down to, blocking and tackling, that's what it's going to come down to.
Blocking and tackling. You know what I'm saying?
Everything else comes after that, really.
But, yeah, you know, you'll be watching, you know?
So, the Cowboys, your favorite team, right?
No. And I'm saying this to say this, because I don't want
to be putting that box.
I don't want to be putting that box.
I rocked on all 32 teams, fam.
Yeah, I remember what you told me.
I don't want them to put me in a box where you only,
because that's how people think.
Oh, you guess the Cowboy family.
That's my biggest fan base.
I like all teams who want to bring me in.
We can get this paper.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember you told me that after the fight.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's real time.
I'm a free agent and I'm going to the highest book.
But I love the Cowboys and I always will love the Cowboys.
I'll just able to go up there and visit Mike Tomlin with the Steelers.
Oh, yeah.
Brought me in to do some comedy for the for the for the team.
It was dope, man.
Got a chance to see Russell Wilson on Justin Fields
and crack some jokes on them and this and that.
And but I'm a fan of the game.
And reason why I tell people this and I tell it, oh, man, you got to be lawyer.
One team, you niggas ain't lawyer.
I'll hold me a little your own girl.
How you going to tell me I need to be lawyer in one team. You niggas ain't lawyer out whole. You ain't little your own girl. How you gonna tell me I need to be lawyer to a team, fam?
I'm lawyer to prize picks.
And the pick that I rock with.
I ain't gonna lie, I'm not a Cleveland Brown fan.
I call them the Duke Lebron fan.
But I always say, I can't talk bad about it
cause my bro Coop over there.
Anybody can tell you that.
If anybody in the league that I rock with bro
Can't do it cuz my bro over got man
Because it's always about respect with me at the end of the day. It's all about respect. I feel you because like
It's like growing up right? I'm from Miami. Like I'm a hometown guy with every with all my sports team
So I'm a he I was a Heat fan,
a Dolphins fan and a U.M. fan.
You're saying, but it's like I'm in a league now.
So it's just like I ain't running around saying I'm a Dolphins man.
It's just like, yo, whoever you're saying, like whoever want me on a team,
whoever drafted me, that's who I'm going to play for.
I ain't going to be like, no, I'm a Dolphins fan, bro.
The Raiders drafted me, man.
I don't wanna play for the Dolphins.
It's like, it don't make no sense.
So I feel where you coming from is just like,
yo, like, yeah, I love football.
Yeah, I'm from Texas.
You know what I'm saying?
The Cowboys playing Texas, but at the end of the day,
I love sports.
Like I would love to come and help out
in any capacity that I can.
Even if it's
doing training. Like, bro, when I was in, when I was at Bama doing training camp, Coach Sader
had somebody come talk to us every night, whether it was a motivational speaker, somebody to
make us laugh, because we needed, we needed that every night. So like, what you speaking
of, you know, you can come in that same capacity and help with any
team like all the players know you, you know what I'm saying?
So man, believe it or not, we can use those lives.
We can use that motivation.
So now I feel where you're coming from for sure.
And it's funny you say that because I just had a situation.
I ain't supposed to say this, but I don't give a damn.
I would have been a policy that can happen, but I'm bashing the fucking cowboys.
But you know, I said some things about Jerry John.
This is coming.
All the players want me.
You know what I'm saying?
All the players want me to come in and this and that.
But at the top line, I don't know.
He said this about Jerry being old.
He is old.
Right.
At the end of the day, this is entertainment.
I. And what? So what you what you think about? Not bad. Just no, no, no, not to cut you off, but like
because I told you, I'm a comedy fan.
I love standup comedy.
But one thing I noticed is when they was doing comedy in the 90s versus now,
the world is so much more sensitive.
Number one, this that's my first part of my question. The world is so much more sensitive, number one, that's my first part of my question.
The world is so much more sensitive.
It's like you can't even get away with the same type
of comedy that you could get away with in the 90s.
It's like it's more censorship on comedy.
So what do you think about that, number one?
And then number two, how does that affect your approach
to coming up with these jokes for the comedy?
And I guess it's a three part question, my bad.
And the last the last bit is like.
You know, you got to be real, but you got to be true to yourself.
It's just like.
Do you like a lot of times
down the jokes you make can cost you opportunities.
Like, do you think about that?
No.
I can't live like that.
And I feel that.
I feel like me being who I am is what got me here.
And anybody know with me, it's just jokes.
It's just jokes.
Right, right.
I got gay jokes, but I got gay people in my family.
It's all about how you tell the gay joke.
Some people tell gay jokes and be demeaning, demeaning to them, trying to be hurtful.
I don't.
I tell it in a way that'll make a gay person laugh.
Like I tell the joke, even though it's not true, but to resonate, because I have gay
people in the crowd. Like you can't stop who come to your show. Like people who like it, even though it's not true, but to resonate, because I have gay people in the crowd.
Like you can't stop who come to your show.
Like people who like it gets like, and I'm like, man, you know, I got a son, man, just
found out he's gay.
And everybody be like, oh, right.
Don't be all that's my nigga.
I call it sugar food.
When I say gay first, they think I'm going to go in.
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I don't like comedians for what they do, but I'm not a racist comedian. I don't have to go on stage and talk about you white M.F.s.
I'm going to tell some white jokes that make everybody love it.
And that's the ability of me.
Like you can't please everybody. Like everybody love it. And that's the ability of me.
Like you can't please everybody.
So I give everything I got, Coop, on stage.
I leave it all on the stage.
I don't want no regrets.
Like true story, I got a Dwight Howard joke.
I don't hold it back.
I know Dwight Howard from Atlanta.
I go to Atlanta to that joke.
I don't hold it's not personal.
Right, right. Shit I'm talking about though. I go Atlanta to that joke. I don't hold it's not personal. Right.
Shit I'm talking about though.
Like he can't never dispute what I'm saying.
And there ain't nothing bad.
It's just that, you know, I'll be like, you know, we was in the club in the strip club,
women everywhere.
He got on Baby Oil.
True story.
He got on Baby Oil.
He reached down, you know, he tall.
Hey man, after Paul get my spot, just me, you and the fellas, I'm going to go to the
gym.
I'm going to the gym.
I'm going to the gym. I'm going to the gym. I'm going to the gym. I'm going to the gym. I'm going to the gym. He got on baby oil. True story. He got on baby oil. He reached down, you know he tall.
Hey man, after Paul get my spike, just me, you and the fellas.
Nip.
I'll get that COVID vaccine before I go to the White House.
I'm just...
Chill bro, chill.
I'm just being me.
But now I did want to ask you another question, too.
Like, so. A lot of times with us athletes, right,
we know what it takes, you know, saying to be great in our industry, what we do.
You know, I wanted to kind of know.
So like with me, right, of course, you know, my whole life, I watched film.
I've studied the greats in my position, et cetera, et cetera.
I wanted to know, like like from your vantage point when it comes to this comedy stuff like,
because it's all about growth, I'm saying we talk about life and we talk about us wanting to be
successful. How do you go about sharpening your craft in the comedy world? Like do you watch
the Richard Pryor's?
Do you, like what do you do?
What's some of the things that you do?
I watch The Richard Pryor's, I watch The Bernie Macs.
A lot of people don't, a lot of people,
real comedians know this, it's all about delivering,
the deliverance and timing of a joke.
You know, Vegas, if you know how to deliver,
like a lot of people go to open mics, right?
My open mics is me getting on their phone talking shit.
If you watch how I do my shit, I'm really doing stand up right there.
Like most shit that y'all hear, I do on stage.
People can't do that.
So last week, like that Floyd joke Joke I told you on stage.
And then you got fans coming around.
Oh man, that sound like Kevin Hart.
No, fam, this really happened.
That's why Floor jumped in the comment.
I ain't got the cap about shit.
That shit really happened the way I said it happened.
I seen one thing, now that you bring it,
I seen one thing one time where somebody was like,
it was either, I don't know, but I think they say somebody stole a joke from you
or you stole a joke from somebody
and you was like, nah, fam, like.
You want me to?
You talking about the Charles the White situation.
That's what it was?
It was a Charles the White situation.
I'd never said it because I guess me.
But somebody in my account put it out there that he stole a joke, which I didn't
give a damn which OK, OK, OK.
And the dude who interviewed me was like, hey, man, I heard that they say you stole.
No, it was the other way around.
Oh, OK. So now that is and that happens.
So that's the reason I asked. Yeah, I ain't I ain't I ain't trying to be messy. But the reason I asked. And that happens. So that's the reason I asked. I ain't trying to be messy.
But the reason I asked.
No, no. It's real talk. It's real talk.
Yeah. So the reason I asked, because I did watch the Shannon Sharp interview.
Shout out to Shannon Sharp. I watched the interview with him and Cat Williams.
And he was talking about, because you know, like we all live in our own domain.
You know what I'm saying? So we don't be knowing everything that just like you don't know
everything that go on in a locker room over NFL locker room we don't know
everything that go on in the comedy world so like when Kevin when when um Cat
Williams was saying that like whole bunch of people stole his jokes he wrote
joke like we was like dang that's that's why the interview was so big cuz he was
dropping so many jewels that people didn't know.
So I wanted to ask that, like,
how often does that happen?
Do people really be stealing jokes like that?
People steal jokes, and it goes back to that situation,
like I told them.
I don't care who steals my joke,
you can't deliver it like me.
How you gonna deliver it?
Yeah.
It's just like no different from,
because I'm not saying I'm an aunt,
no different from Stephen A.'m not saying no different from
shit on Stephen A.
Smith when they go on TV and screen trash, they can't fucking say it like.
Yeah, that's true.
No way comes from and has.
So I don't care.
Sure. That's true.
Don't bother me.
But a lot of comedians that.
Lower tier that's never gone.
I hate to say it, probably bubble or whatever,
people do still like jokes that's higher up and take it and people, oh man that's a great joke.
When they stole it from somebody at the bottom.
But people don't understand the comedy world, bro, we all think alike.
We all say shit in different ways. So you can say some shit in your own way and somebody come along, man, I got something
just like that.
That don't mean that person stole it, bro.
I had to deal with that about two months ago with somebody.
I took it out, said damn that nigga, me and your views, dude got mad.
Man, that guy took my joke.
Nothing, the joke don't sound like nothing like his, bro.
But because I got so much love off of it, and he just didn't. The joke don't sound like nothing like his, bro.
But because I got so much love off of it,
and he just didn't.
And I'm like, fam, I don't even know you.
I ain't never heard of you, bro.
But who I am, I'll never do that joke again.
My people tell you, I don't even do that joke.
I ain't even gotta do that joke, bro.
Like, because it sounded nothing like yours.
Because then, after we have a talk, he was like, man,
if you're going to tell a joke, you got to tell it right.
So you listen to yourself.
If I'm going to tell a joke, I got you listening to what you're saying, bro,
because the jokes are nothing like yours, bro.
Yeah. So he will read it the whole time.
That's crazy. But it's all love.
I respect him. And, you know, you know,
some of us internet people, bro, we know we we shoot past a lot of people
that's been being in the game, bro, 15, 20 years.
And sometimes they get bothered by it.
And I understand, bro.
But I'm really and this is when we is me and him have a conversation, bro,
because, you know, the people in the comic game, they like to talk behind the scenes.
Right. And when he told me, well, when I when I thought you had stole my joke, I went to
talking about people about you. They were like. He wanted to warn, bro.
Yeah, he nice.
That nigger nice on that motherfucker stage, bro.
So he you have a man to man with him, but
he won them niggas.
He won the man that niggas like that nigger check that nigger resume.
And and we was able to resolve that and talk about it.
But like I told him, no disrespect to you, bro.
But most comedians think alike, bro.
Like this is some. J jokes Bernie Mac done said,
earthquake done said, not the same joke.
Yeah.
Cause it seemed like, it seemed like,
like what I noticed when it come to comedy
and stuff like that, it seemed like,
you know how it'd be like social events happening,
like something would happen socially and it would be trending on the Internet.
It seemed like sometimes you all would take that event
and try to make a joke out of it, you feel me?
So I could see how some comedians
take the same event that just happened.
Like, for example, when Donald Trump, the Donald Trump got shot in the ear,
I'm sure it was a thousand comedians that took that situation and said,
I need to find out how to make a joke out of that.
So it ain't far fetched to think somebody
would go along the same lines
and try to make the same type of joke.
So when you say it on stage, it might sound similar,
but that don't mean he stole your joke.
Nah, y'all just pulled from the same event.
So I see what you're saying.
No different from these content Kriegas now, putting on headsets, acting like they from the same event. You see what I'm saying? So I see what you're saying. So. No different from these content creators now.
Putting on headsets, acting like they're the head coach,
talking to these girls, mommas.
I started that shit.
But I don't care.
These boys were doing these skits now
about sleeping with these little boys.
That come from me.
But the world, people who just not get on you,
they be like, oh man, you stole that from such a shit.
What? That made made that came from me
i just had a situation i don't know what i was thinking about but i feel what you're saying
sometimes like somebody get on you and somebody been on this person for three years then they get
on you and they see you making a joke that they heard him say because they was on him first they
think you stole it from him when reality he probably stole it from you no i ain't no reality
definitely got it from
And I just be the first to say that you see any I'm thinking right now. I heard doing the little league football skits
Yeah
So you never stole no joke, that's what you trying to know no
That's no
I went through so much shit in my life, bro
I got so much funny shit that I haven't even put out there
yet, bro, to steal somebody's shit.
I don't wanna steal nobody's shit, bro.
I don't have to.
I got so much pain, struggle to living good now.
I hate saying that, because my phone gonna start ringing.
To, nah, for real, I gotta watch what I say these days, bro.
But, no, bro, I don't wanna steal your shit, bro.
I don't wanna be Kevin Hart.
I don't wanna be Desi Banks.
I don't wanna be Jusky.
I'm Bubba Duh.
So, so, so.
So, so, go ahead.
So, so, okay.
So how you feel like you make the jokes land, though?
Like, you know how they got it?
You just said the delivery, like, what's the sauce?
You probably don't even want to get this up,
but like, what's the sauce behind making a joke land?
Like, I know this is going to land.
I got to say this like this first,
then I got to put it like this,
and I say this at the end and it's going to land
because they going to be, you know what I'm saying?
Like, how'd that go?
My emphasis on words, bro.
So it'd be the words, like how you say trash,
like trash, you say it a certain way.
But no, I used to say it,
but not move that head with it now.
You know what I'm saying?
It just, you know, it's like, oh man, you trash,
like it don't work.
Now it's like, nigga, you trash.
Nah, for sure.
Nah, it's a different when I say it like that,
now it's with swag. Nah, cause it's, it it's a different when I say it like that. Nah, it's with swag.
Nah, because it's definitely a certain way you say it that's going to make the people
laugh for sure.
Who gave you the best advice?
The best career advice you would say?
What was that advice?
The best career advice I probably got was probably from Tricey McGrady.
T-Mac? I'm going to tell this story. I ain't never told it. career advice I probably got was probably from Tracy McGrady.
T-Mac?
I'm going to tell this story.
I ain't never told it.
T-Mac was my favorite basketball player ever.
Yeah, he was cold.
He was cold.
Favorite basketball player ever.
I used to put him over Kobe.
It gets to me.
Everybody got their opinion.
Everybody got their opinion.
Nah, T-Mac was cold.
He a Florida guy too.
So, I know.
Yeah.
From Florida.
So, I had a friend say, man, my friend Coach Petit, he's Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Man, you crazy, making no big in my damn comments. Let me go and see. He in my comments.
I was like, man, I'm gonna reach out.
You know how y'all live, y'all need to respond back.
So I reached out.
I was like, bro, man, I know you rock with me.
He hit me right back.
Man, you a funny jit.
I guess that's the Florida word, jit.
Jit, yeah.
You a funny jit.
He was like, man, I see you like the Lakers at basketball.
I was like, yeah, man.
He say, you wanna go to a game? I was like, hell yeah. I you like the Lakers at basketball. I'm like, yeah, man. He say, you want to go to a game?
I'm like, hell yeah.
I was living in Dallas at the time.
He was like, man, come to Houston.
Got you some tickets.
So I go to Houston, chop it up with him, man.
Me and my girl went to the shop to go with him.
And I said, by a couple months later,
I ended up moving to Houston.
This is before I started making money just on the grind and
He said both of them and you'll find a guy man. Oh
You got what it takes you got you got what it takes to go all the way bro, just be you don't
There was that word I used while ago
Don't don't um
Down now don't down. Yes, not my content. Don't walk
trying down. No, don't down. You're my content. Don't walk out. Oh, try to be something. You ain't going to be something you ain't.
He came to me.
This true story, say, man.
What can I do to help you?
Because I was because I always found my own tools.
We say, what can help you right now?
I'm like, man, I need about $15,000 to go and do this tour.
Right. And you're like, OK, cool. about $15,000 to go and do this tour. Right.
And he was like, okay, cool.
He was shaking his head.
He ain't saying that.
I'm like, okay, cool.
He hit me up the next day.
He say, hey man, I'm in Florida,
but my wife got that check for you.
Go around there and get it.
Just like that.
And I got the 15 bands, did what I needed to do.
Four months later, I gave me 15 bands back.
He was like, damn, most niggas would fall,
ran out, cause he could have some people run off.
What?
And he, it surprised him.
He was like, even though you probably won't need it
cause you going places, you can get up to 150,
$200,000 from me, bro.
Like that was, you showed me what kind of character you,
you ain't just trying to get over cause you can.
And they were just me not dumbing down my content.
Just keep being who I am.
And he first person gave me the confidence,
true story to say, man, fuck them athletes.
So what the fuck you want to say?
You not lying, you telling the truth.
Don't feel bad when people get on you for saying this.
No, that was the best advice.
Don't dumb your shit down for nobody.
We know your heart period. We know you ain't calling nobody personally trash. You just
talking about they stats this game and this and that. So that was the best advice somebody
could give me. Just continue to be myself. Don't dumb nothing down. Don't worry about
what people say. Believe in you and just take out, bro.
Like I really believe that shit, Cooper.
I don't go for nobody say about me, bro.
Like I know I'm a bad motherfucker.
I know that, but I can be a bad motherfucker too.
Cause I want to get to the Eddie Murphy.
I want to get into movies.
And I don't just want to kick in the movies
and make a whole bunch of money.
That's the key.
That's good.
But I want to be able to reach back and grab somebody else who need to help.
That lifeline. Come on.
Now, what you all do with is what you all do with it.
But I want to be in the position to help people.
I don't want to be in the position to get
a bunch of money and take care of the people that I know.
It's easy to take care of people, you know.
Can you help somebody that you don't know?
And you ain't got a broadcast.
Pretty much some shit you do for people.
You don't want nobody know about it.
Ain't nobody business.
Right.
That's how I am.
And T-Mac can never tell nobody he gave it to me.
That guy ain't who he is.
Man, shout out to T-Mac.
I be the one to tell people that that really happened.
I got all the people,
cause more people like, well,
you should cool with Shag. Yeah.
But Shag, Shag, not obligated to give me no money.
Floor and I obligated to give me no money.
But Floor gave me money went to Dubai and I got key.
I got two girls and I was on the whole week.
We working. I'm like, man, I got to get back.
I got to go do me show, bro.
I ain't got your kind of money. I got to go do show.
for I got to get back. I got to go to the show, bro.
I ain't got your car.
I got to go to show me 20,000.
To show me to me 20,000.
Look, so he say when I leave to start, when I leave, who's in Dubai?
He said, when I leave here, I'm going to go back to Miami.
I'm going to give you another 10,000 when I get to Miami.
Make I blew that phone up every day.
I count when you when you when you go into Miami.
So look, so when you hear me like I'm on my way to Miami, I didn't wait around,
book my own flight. Yeah. And then they got their private airport. I was right there.
I bet you were. Because I ain't never had that kind of bugger like that at the time
at one time like they're cool. So you know me, I got the money in the shoe box. I'm stacking.
Can't tell you.
And one thing I do, I like, and people gonna learn though,
like I get it.
You know, when you go around Florida, man,
you ain't gotta touch your pockets.
Even though I be like, certain shit,
it could be like a $30 item.
Champ, I got it, man.
He gotta pay for everything, bro. I'm like no dog
Cuz you see things when you around you can't say nothing for the people like one thing I learned about a taker ain't no limit
They're taking everything. I don't like that. So that's why I kind of like
Failed back cuz like bro, what time I go around watching you fly a hundred people in the Dubai
Yeah, this can't be good.
Like on down the line, like
you ain't boxing no more like that.
So I'm like, no, man, I buy my own food
because you go around certain people, some people move different.
Yeah, they are sitting around all day and watch champ sit around, be hungry,
don't eat nothing, wait, no champ. Not me.
See, I'm going to eat.
Oh, you hungry?
Oh, yeah. People say they ain't got nothing to wait on you to eat.
Look, I'm my own man at the end of the day.
Not even I'm bubblegum. I ain't you.
Yeah, I'm somebody to you know, I'm saying.
And that's what you like about me, because I keep you really
the one hundred on shit like that.
Like, no, like, I know who you are, but I know I am too.
Like we go out in places, people run up the floor.
They run up to me, too.
That's when I start realizing my value.
You hang around me and there's you become one.
No, that's a that's a fact.
That's a true fact.
I can say I can say that now.
So I always try to tell my friends, like you say,
hey, man, when you go around the Mario Koopas, bring me around.
No, I'm just not getting here.
OK, I know who I am. They know who I am.
I know you. I can't bring you around.
Your attention's bad.
Now, I'm being real. Right.
I know your intentions.
I know you're trying to get around.
Be be friends with somebody.. They turn they back you steal
They're not gonna look at you. They're gonna get me
You probably more right so I can't have it so I tell people all the time especially the floor bro. Oh, man
Man, man, let me talk to champ me. I gotta run this business deal by
If I won't loan you the money
What make you think he going on you mother fan one thing floor? I told me one time say boy
When you come around me gonna bring nobody is which?
True story I say why is that jump? Okay, cuz that means you gonna get less
True story that mean going to get this.
Hey, he told me I was on my office, so many people that want to come around.
We're in Vegas.
And I can't say his first name, but it was a comedian.
And Floyd gets about this allowance.
It's like going to be like for a comedy spot.
And he was telling Floyd like, hey, man, you get that comedy spot.
I come through and blaze it up for you.
Guess what, Floor, I told him.
I got to get you and I got bubble.
And the comedian is up under the biggest comedian in the world.
I ain't gonna say no name.
Yeah, but he in all the movies and he's the number one guy right now.
And it ain't hard to see what I'm talking about. Yeah, he in all the movies and he's the number one guy right now And he ain't hold out to see what I'm talking about
Yeah, yeah, hey H. It's the biggest comedian the game and there's somebody that on his team told me when you get it
Man, I come through in blaze and I didn't hear the conversation the dude come back and told me he said man
Shut up love you. I said what I'm talking about. I said man. I told him I come through in blaze
He said man, why would I get you and I got bubble-dub?
That's real. It's real friendship, bro.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, and I think that's what we be missing in the game sometimes.
Like, yeah, we like other people.
Everybody's cool.
But to put your own on, like, what kind of friend am I, Cooper, to you?
If I'm only cool to you in your face?
No, I got to be cool when you ain't there.
When you ain't in them rooms, I'm still defending you.
That's the kind of nigga I am.
I don't care if you don't like Cooper.
That's your problem.
I don't wanna hear it when I'm here.
You know what I'm saying?
We all men.
Don't tell me if you got a problem with him.
You handling when you see him.
That's just how I am though.
I don't care about that, bro. Life is short.
One, I could be here today and day at the mall.
I ain't got time arguing, bickering, nobody about this, that and the third, bro.
I ain't got time for it.
I feel like I got a purpose.
Like you got a purpose in the NFL from a kid.
You you levels.
I mean, I know you.
I'm just steady. Roll up the tree. That's why I don't get caught up in. I'm getting steady growing up the tree.
That's why I don't get caught up in sometimes because they be in groups.
It's group of comedian like the group.
I'm all man by myself.
Now move around.
I got two or three people.
That's it.
I don't need no you seen how I move two or three people.
That's it.
I'm just not.
I got a little necklace now.
But that ain't serious. They just not, I got a little necklace now, but that ain't shit, that's insurance.
Nigga want my jacket cool.
I'ma get that paper back.
I don't live for that shit, bro.
I'm not a materialistic guy,
but I like the feeling they bring though.
I like the feeling that I can able to go.
I'm about to say now, Floyd, I mean,
I'm about to say now, Doug,
you playing one of those big movies.
I don't wanna see you with no Rolex.
I don't wanna see you with no-. I don't wanna see you with no-
Oh, I got one of them now.
I got a Rolex.
No, well, I don't wanna see you with no Richard Milley,
no Ferraris, no none of that.
Nah, I will say this, fam.
I sit over here and I talk a lot,
talk a lot of shit.
When I start, you know,
cause if I do that now, I'll be broke on some shit.
But you know, you know what I'm getting at?
I know, I know, I know.
And I gotta have it.
I gotta have it coupe just one time.
Not the Ferrari though.
I don't want no Ferrari, man.
What's your dream car?
My dream car, bro, is that that that goes a drop it.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's nice.
Float got full. Yeah, floor floor.
Every time I go out there, I get these two with me.
He got 30 black cars in Vegas, about 30 white cars in Miami.
Yeah. But you know, you know, get to that point.
They don't you don't care about that. He don't drive. Yeah. Yeah. Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, Miami, today, man, you know, I got you on this show. I just want to give you flowers, bro, because I just like the college like I see it.
I know I ain't the only one to see certain things from you players.
Like I say, you are human just like I'm human.
But at the end of the day, in my eyes, you all wanted the top 10 right receivers in the game.
And I like giving people their flowers when they when they know when you allall come on my show. I know you're gonna care about that. Like you say, you
can do better and you will do better. That's that's that's great. That's great
PR. You know, that's that's me. I'm gonna talk that talk. That's just that's just
me. But like I say, man, good luck on this season, bro. Like got Washington back, man.
Hopefully y'all can stay healthy.
That's the key to the NFL.
A lot of people understand it's being healthy.
Yeah. And having chemistry between one another.
I know it's a lot of egos on teams.
I know, like you say, you know, you come down,
you might get two or three catches, then you never know the tight end.
When we're in there, then a lot goes into the NFL game that us fans see going on.
And that's what I'm learning on this side.
When I would say certain things, now I'm like, yeah, I was tripping when I said that because
I didn't take this into consideration.
I ain't take that.
Oh, he didn't have a good game, but maybe quarterback didn't throw the ball
Like it's a whole lot sick to go on bro. Yeah, not for so so so and
Just trying to understand that game. That's why I'm going to this what I'm doing that cool
I'm going to NFL games pretty much every Sunday
I normally do comedy shows on Sundays, but I found the loophole to still make the same amount of money
I was making myself to go to the league games now.
So I got to the sponsorships.
But, and go and learn and get in on the field,
in the field of the game, build a rapport with the players.
And you know, I ain't just what you think I am on anything.
Like I'm really serious about this
and just bringing entertainment to the NFL, man. Or to the NBA. bringing and entertainment to the NFL man or to the NBA
Right. I went to the Aces game to Vegas and chopped it up with a Joe Aja Wilson
Right, and when they see my face now, oh shit
Is him yes, but I'm professional and what I'm asking you, but it's gonna be different from what they asked you
Right, you know certain things type shit. But yeah, man, thank you for coming on to the show, man.
I've been telling y'all gonna get Cooper on the show, man.
I know y'all thought I was lying.
Man, I tell you, he'll be a busy guy.
I mean, he gonna be responding back in the DM.
But I got this number now y'all.
I'm gonna blow his mother phone up.
But no, thank you, bro.
Anything else you want to say, man?
You know, any shout outs to anybody? Oh, bro. Anything else you want to say, man? You know, any shout outs to anybody?
Oh, man, shout out to
shout out to T-Mac for that.
For that was real.
Shout out to Floyd. That was real.
Shout out to you for having me on.
I really got nothing else, man.
Good luck on the season. I'm going to pull up to a game.
All right. Yeah. Pull up. Pull up.
So I want to pull up to the game. All right. Yeah. Pull up.
Pull up.
I want to pull up to the game and see how y'all do it down in the dog pound.
Yeah.
You got to pull up, bro.
No, I will.
I'm going to pull up to the game, man.
I got y'all making the playoffs this year.
Yeah.
I got y'all making the playoffs this year, and I wish you all the success in the world,
man.
Appreciate you for being a homie to me and being a man of your word coming on my show. And appreciate you, man. Appreciate you for being a homie to me. Big a man in your world coming
on my show and appreciate you, man. Peace and we out.
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