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You play with Book and you play with Bradley Beal.
If you had to say who you think is the better shooter?
Oh, Book is probably the better shooter.
Or, yeah, I don't know.
That's tough.
Book is super cold, but Brad is super, super cold.
But if I would say a better shooter, I'm probably going to have to go with Book.
Yeah.
Do you think Book, Bill, and KD, you think they can win a title?
If they got a point guard.
It look like it's going to be Book.
Book ain't a point guard.
He'll score.
Book scored 70 points in the NBA. God is going to say if He's booking a point guard. He'll score. Book scored 70 points in the NBA.
Got to go see if they're going to point guard.
Yeah, no.
You blocked KD's shot a couple times.
How hard did it defend KD?
KD is probably one of the most difficult people to guard because he's seven feet.
And he can shoot from deep.
And he got a bag.
So, yeah, the players now, again, like, they're unbelievable.
Yeah.
There's nobody really like KD.
If you say Dirk could shoot the ball like KD, but Dirk was, you know,
he going to get it on the block, he going to shoot the one-leg step back.
Yeah, he can let the three go.
Yeah.
He wasn't putting it on the floor like KD can get all the way to the rim.
He didn't really need to.
He can finish at the rim, can stop, pop, got the three. Dirk was nasty, though. Yeah. He wasn't putting it on the floor like KD can get all the way to the rim. He didn't really need to. Can finish at the rim. Yeah.
Can stop, pop.
Got the three.
Dirk was nasty, though.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Dirk was super cool.
He is probably one of the reasons that there is a Kevin Durant.
Right.
You know?
But, yeah, they're two different Dirtys.
You played with Dane.
Yeah.
How happy are you that he's out of Portland?
And should he have made this move sooner?
I don't think he really wanted to move.
Dame is one of those individuals that he's loyal to a fault.
Loyal to the soil.
Yeah, loyal to a fault.
Yeah.
Kevin Garnett, huh?
In Minnesota.
You remember how long it took him to get out?
Yeah.
And, I mean, it's nothing wrong with that again
He's made an unbelievable living. Yeah, he's created a
Identity he's you know done things in Portland that not a lot of people have done
But you know at some time
Sometime in your career change the scenery is always good
Dame of stealth better deep ball shooter
what man that's that's not even fair
i i don't even i'm gonna give you a 35 footer for your life one of those guys got to take it who you want shooting it for game for your life for
my life your life since i'm gonna go with up since steph been whooping my ass for so long i'm going
with dame yeah yeah fuck that i've been in the trenches with dame so i'm gonna go with dame
okay well dame and yannis get it done because it's off to a slow start a little rocky start
but hey you believe they can turn it around?
Because I thought it would be better than what it was because Dame's the point.
They can get you to pick and roll.
Dame's a closer.
Giannis is going to do what Giannis is going to do.
Are you surprised they've struggled a little bit early?
Again, when you don't have training camps to build chemistry, it's tough to gel straight away.
But once they settle into the part of the season where it's ugly and they figure it out,
I think they'll have a chance to put it together.
You played with CP3 in New Orleans.
You played with him in Houston.
What are your thoughts on him joining the Warriors?
You surprised?
No, I'm not surprised.
It wasn't his choice. He got traded.
He got traded there.
I wouldn't have done it me personally, but again, I'm not him.
Right.
Just because they whipped our ass for so
long. Right.
You ain't trying to join them. I couldn't do it.
Did you ever see coming the day
that you guys would link up in Houston?
Yeah, I did.
We always, you know, he's one of my best friends in the league.
Wow.
He's actually, my time, he's probably my best friend in the league,
you know, and to this day, he's one of my best friends.
So, yeah, I knew eventually we would have another opportunity to play together.
I thought we would have a chance to win the championship. We got really close to achieving that goal, but again, like I said, sometimes things don't
always, you know, luck don't always be on your side.
CP misunderstood.
What is it that, because there's a perception about him, a little dirty, a little sneaky.
Everybody got shit that's, I mean, if you're not cheating,
you're not trying.
Right.
Right.
And at that level.
So, you know, if people want to be upset that he play hard
or he does shit that's not in the rules technically,
then all right, that's cool.
You played against Draymond.
Man, you said Draymond tried to put the – had the man like a baby boy.
Come on, man.
That shit was so funny.
I didn't see it live, but I seen it like on –
The replay?
Yeah.
So just watching him like have him in a chokehold, I mean, you would love that.
Hold on.
Draymond like 6'6".
You 7'3".
How did he get behind you to be able to get up there and choke you?
He happened fast.
He understood it.
But you know what, Trev?
I'm mad at Cat.
Cat let that happen.
I'm mad at everybody on that team.
Yeah, man.
I got to have, hey, Trev.
I got to have y'all.
Now, the one thing is, I ain't say we got to be best friends.
But when somebody come into the house, everybody got to scrap.
You know what's funny?
Me and another one of my best friends, his name is Bottoms.
We call him Bottoms.
His name is Brandon Heath.
You know, when we were in high school, we used to fight against each other all the time.
Right.
But when it comes to like an outsider trying to get in on the outside or whatever we arguing about.
That ain't happening.
Bro, we going to tear your ass up.
How they let that happen?
They let the man hold you. Draymond got the man in a chokehold and cat standing there ant man standing
there everybody just standing there you know what it is i i figure the fines is too high right and
you know it's getting ready to be cat birthday when i whip your ass in practice what's that fine
how much that gonna cost that's that's the part of the game that that is missing right now probably you can't you can't leave a man out there to drive like that
because look at the difference look at what Draymond did when dude had clay and look at
what they did when Draymond had gobert that's that's all I'm saying that's the part of the
game Draymond said f them fine now Now, he probably going to get suspended.
Probably five, ten, who knows.
Given his history, it might be more games than that.
But he said, you know what?
Y'all not going to do that to my boy.
Because I can just imagine Draymond would have came in that thing with a chair like a Texas death row match.
And I'm not mad at him for that.
Again, those things are undervalued.
Even though they might not be great for your ratings or it might not be great for the business of the game. But it's great to understand that you have a player on your team
that's going to ride with you right or wrong.
Yeah.
And I would ride with somebody like that at all times.
What are your thoughts?
I mean, I wanted to ask you because, like I said, I've asked a few people.
I don't really understand the basketball culture.
Kind of like, you know, football is a wholly different people. I don't really understand the basketball culture. Football is a wholly different,
it's a totally different mindset from basketball players.
But when you saw the footage of Draymond punching Jordan Poole,
what were the thoughts that went through your mind?
Did you think, what the F did he say?
No, the first thing I thought, sorry to cut you off,
but what I thought was, who the fuck put this out?
Whoever put that out
That's who you need to get at right what happens in houses that should stay in house
I
Don't know what happened. I don't even care what happened the part that I don't like is that it got out
That's the part that's weak to me. Right? And so when you see now all of a sudden, I mean you're
it wasn't like
steph like ah man draymond was wrong clay like ah draymond was wrong it was like you know it's a very unfortunate have you seen i mean you played 18 years have you seen situations where players
fight yes of course i've been in situations where things have gone down. So the thing about it is like when you are with somebody every single day, you're not going to get along every day.
Like when people have relationships or wives or whatever, you in the house with that person every single day, you're not going to get along every day.
So like understanding that and not letting it go outside of your house is what's the most important thing
How hard did it defend something like we've never seen the thing like stuff forget the shooting
Yeah, it's the car the perpetual motion motion
The crazy part is like he shoots a lot of threes right? Yeah, but he get a lot of layups, too
Yes, and that's what opens up the three ball
He's always on the move.
And he has players that can pass the ball.
Right.
Like Dre.
Back in the day, he had...
David Lee?
Not David Lee.
The big Australian guy.
Oh, Andrew Bogut.
Andrew Bogut.
He was a really good passer.
You know?
So, like...
And cassette screens.
And cassette screens.
Yeah.
It's like people that have sacrificed themselves for a talent that is as good as him,
you need them.
That's what allows him to be as great as he is.
Will CP3 get the first ring?
Will he get an opportunity to get the championship in Golden State?
No.
Can't nobody fuck with Denver on the West to me, especially right now.
Denver, like the way that they move the ball, Jokic being on their team, Coach Malone.
Jamal is not there right now.
Yeah.
Their team is just like that.
Are you surprised he was so willing to come off the bench?
Because the guy's been a star his whole career.
You said he's a top 75 player.
I think he's third all-time in assist and he's like okay those are the sacrifices you were
talking about earlier yeah that you have to be willing to make correct you want to be a
championship correct cp is one of those people that his game can change with the situation
so i think that um i don't think it bothers him that he is coming off the bench.
I just think that if it's best for the team, then he's willing to do that at this point in
his career. Right. Give me you know, because you play with so many great players, I kind of want
to get the mindset and bring out our viewing and listening audience into it. CP3 in practice.
Kobe in practice.
CP3 in the game.
Kobe in the game.
Some of the similarities, some of the differences.
They both are ultra competitive.
CP will try to probably,
Kobe will try to beat you in walking to the locker room.
CP will be right on his heels.
So they're competitive in everything. We shoot pool, we play table be right on his heels. Yeah. So they competitive in everything.
We shoot pool, we play table tennis, we play cards.
Everything.
Everything.
They want to beat you at everything.
Chris Paul also said had you not gotten hurt in Houston, you probably would have won the
championship.
If he didn't, I would agree with that.
If he didn't get hurt when we were in Houston, I feel like we had an opportunity to win.
We had, like, top five team in offense, top ten in defense.
You know, we shot a lot of – we had a lot of good players on our team,
shot a lot of threes.
Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how you missed 27, 26, 27 straight threes,
though.
How you do that?
You can't even try to do that. You can't. It to do that you can't it was a cap on the it was a lid on the on the rim because everybody
was missing them yeah you remember the movie six man yeah yeah yeah and uh bro was knocking the
shots off exactly what was happening playing with stars obviously, obviously you're a glue guy.
You're one of the guys, I mean, everybody can't be a star.
Somebody has to take a role.
You know, everybody can't be the CEO of the bank.
Somebody got to be the custodian.
Somebody got to be the cashiers.
Somebody got to be the branch managers.
How do you find your role, your niche in a team full of stars?
How do you find your role, your niche in a team full of stars?
So when you have or you play with players that are the star player or superstar, you understand that.
And in order, it just depends on your mentality.
Like if you want to win, what's the most important thing to you?
And for me, it's winning.
Like I was a player that could kind of do a little bit of everything and in order for me to be on the court i learned early that you have to
do something that's going to help you stay on the court right and that was play defense hit open
shots dive on the floor do all this shit all the things that people do not like to do right until like
your situation changed so for me that situation just happened to be the role that i took on in
every every team that i played on and my idea was just to be the best superstar i can be right in my
role that i played well how did how difficult is it to deal with egos because you play because the superstar
knows he's here and they're only like a handful of those guys I'm talking about like true truth
and you played with Kobe you played with LeBron right obviously you played with CP3 you played
with some other guys James Harden but how difficult is it to play with a guy that's like
that? For me and I can't speak for other people, but for myself, it's easy because I feel like I got my own ism.
Like I got my own thing that I do.
I got my own friends.
I got my own everything.
Right.
And, you know, going to play with those type of individuals, they understand what I bring to the table.
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It's not a shot to my ego.
It's actually a boost to my ego because I don't have to try to fit in.
I fit in because I just fit in.
Right.
How do you get comfortable in your role?
You're a 3 and D guy.
Once made 10 threes in a game, but you were known for your
defense. What's what's the the biggest key because not only
must you try to limit LeBron or limit James Harden to limit one
of the Kawhi PG whomever. Yeah, but you still they're still
going to ask you to knock down those three that when you get
that opportunity because that's thing now you're spending so
much energy because you know
they can go get 40 50 and you're trying to limit them as much as you possibly can while still
maintaining energy to be able to get that shot up and knock it down i think uh the mental toughness
that's the part of the game that is that you have to have that has to be extremely high because you like you said you know you guarding somebody who could
go off for 50 so and they probably gonna get to their average no matter what right it's just
making the percentages go down that gives your team a chance to win if they're taking more shots
to get to their average right and understanding that you know all right fool like he gonna get
to his average but you just can't make it
easy for him. Right. Do everything you can to make it as uncomfortable as possible.
You've got the distinction of being the most traded player in NBA history. Yeah. How difficult
is that on your family? And then when did you like damn again?
Again, I mean you like a military family, but you you on the move, bro
Yeah, I mean I was doing what I love to do right and they don't matter what Jersey it is or what city I?
Looked at it is you know my somebody wanted me It's not my family got to see different parts of the country right and I'm still playing at the top
Level and the sport that I chose to play
in what was the best and worst trade you experienced uh well there was one time I got
traded like four times right in like a day or whatever huh yeah but I didn't go to none of the
places so um I think the best experience of being traded was a team that wasn't going to use me.
They allowed me the opportunity to train and do the things that I needed to do in the space that I was at, like with my family. So, you know, I have a lot of respect for that organization, for that team.
Understanding, you know my age or whatever right they they
They they gave me the respect of allowing me to to be at home
While they were looking for a place for me to go when you say you was traded four times in a day
So how does that go you in the whole your hotel room or two days or some shooting? But anyway, you're so your agent says okay, you got traded to such-and-such, but sit tight
You're probably not gonna go there. They're looking to move you.
And so you just sit and tie you like, well, damn. I mean, it's nice to be wanted.
But so what's what's going on in your head? What are you thinking?
I just wait until I go to where I'm supposed to go. Right. Yeah.
It's that's not like that's not a bruise to my ego. Right.
You know, like this is this is sports.
You know, I'm still going to get a chance to compete. So the guys that get caught up in that, they got to be a little bit younger.
Right. Because, again, like the older you get, the longer the longer you play, you understand is a business.
You know, we as the athlete, the young athlete, we looking at it as from the love of the game.
And as you get a little bit older, you start to understand both sides of it.
Being from L.A., obviously you love L.A. What's outside of L.A.?
What's one of the couple of the best cities that you've lived in?
I love Houston, Miami for sure. D.C. is great. New York was great.
Well, I mean
you lived in there
in the 50 states
you lived in like
12 of them
right
so I got to experience
a whole bunch of things
right
not a lot of other people
get to experience
and I still got to do it
first class
yeah
I read what you said
that you were traveling
to Milwaukee
and I think
Oklahoma City
and you experienced ghosts.
Is that true?
Oh, man.
There was a hotel in Oklahoma City.
The Skirvin'.
Yeah.
That's true.
And y'all still, teams still stay there?
I don't know if teams stay there now,
but I remember just laying on my bed.
It had to be like early, like getting in late.
So it was early in the morning morning I'm laying on my bed
the lights are on everything is on so I fall asleep on the bed fully clothed I ended up in
the bed the lights off I was just I I know I didn't do it what I didn't put myself in there. But you were still closed, though, right? Yeah. The ghost ain't taking clothes out there. Okay, I'm just making sure.
I ain't stripping you naked.
But I was, I ended up in the bed with the lights off.
Okay.
Give me your all-time starting five based on your teammates, former teammates. So, Kobe, LeBron, Dwight Howard, Westbrook, Dane, Mello, Book, CP3, Tracy McGrady,
Pau Gasol, Penny Hardaway, andane, Mello, Book, CP3, Tracy McGrady, Paul Gasol,
Penny Hardaway, and Stephon Marbury.
Starting five. Let me look at that list.
Let me see.
Where is it at? Alright.
Kobe for sure.
So these guys who started, right? Yeah.
So I'm going to go with Kobe.
I'm going to go with Chris.
I'm going to go with Kobe. I'm going to go with Chris. I'm going to go with Powell.
I'm going to put Dwight in there.
Okay.
And you don't got no four men in here.
Oh, no, Powell.
Yeah, Powell, you're four.
Yeah, Powell, for sure.
Dwight, you're five.
Dwight, Powell.
You missing the three.
Three?
I didn't say Brian?
Nope.
I went Brian.
That's it.
That's a nice little squad.
Yeah.
Do you think, let me ask you a question.
In their prime, you win a championship with this team?
In their prime?
Yeah.
I don't think that team works.
Wow.
So, Kobe, Brian, Dwight, Powell, and CP3.
You don't think it works?
No.
Brian and Kobe?
All of them.
Well, I mean, Dwight going to block the shots, going to get you some rebounds. You don't think it works? No. Bron and Kobe? All of them.
Well, I mean, Dwight going to block the shots, going to get you some rebounds.
I'm going to want the ball.
You want the ball, yeah.
Okay.
CP3, pick and roll with LeBron, Kobe?
Going to have the ball.
Kobe?
Going to have the ball.
LeBron.
Going to have the rock.
So, like, they're not who they are Without the ball
Right
Yeah
So we gonna sell a lot of tickets
Black Dog Window Championship
Nah
Of all the teammates you had
To have never won a ring
Who would you like to give a ring to?
Tracy McGrady
Penny
CP3
Mello
Grant Hill
You gonna get one ring
CP Who else? T-Mac T-Mac Tanny Mello, Grant Hill. You're going to get one ring.
CP, who else?
T-Mac.
T-Mac.
Tanny.
Mello.
G-Hill.
I'm going to go with CP.
Should rings matter in an argument?
Individual, no.
They shouldn't matter if it's an individual talent.
Only when you're talking on the concept of a team.
Can I give you my opinion?
Yeah.
I believe you can be great without having a ring.
But to be in the conversation for great tits, you've got to have a ring.
Agree or disagree?
You've got to have a great team only great teams win championships
there hasn't been one player in the history of the nfl nba nhl that has won a championship championship by themselves. Right. It just ain't happening.
So are you willing to put Carl Malone, if that's the case?
Because I think Carl Malone would be probably the number one power forward
had he won a couple of championships.
But that distinction is going to Tim Duncan.
Tim Duncan is killer.
Right.
No, I mean, again, like I said, there's too many great players
to choose the
greatest as far
as well you just told me you say Jordan
is in the league by himself because he pushed
the game he changed the game people
people all the shoes
we wear look like Jordan well you do know what
Magic and Bird did because they used to the games
used to be on tape delay the NBA finals
was on tape delay they played it one
day you watched it later.
Yeah.
Magic is killer, too.
Bird is killer.
But I'm just, so what is your definition?
How would you define a great player?
What's a great player to you?
Is it some numbers?
Is it all NBA selections?
Is it all-star?
Is it MVPs?
We're talking about just great players, no rings.
Because for me, like I said, I believe in order to be into the greatest conversation, you need titles.
Preference, I guess.
For me, I like mentality.
I like style.
I like charisma.
I like winners. like charisma I like
I like winners
Right
So for me
That's going to be different
Than everybody else
I want to say it like this
So think about this
Remember that year
Cleveland and
What was that
Cleveland and
Golden State
Played
And I think
Brian led the whole
Yeah
And all the stats
Yes
That would be the one time somebody can say somebody won a championship
or was the closest to winning a championship.
Yeah, by himself.
Right.
Mm-hmm.
And I don't even think they won.
They didn't.
They didn't.
Yeah, they did.
Well, yeah, he did.
Well, yeah, he did.
That was 2016 when he chased them down.
I don't think they won. They won that year, 2016. he did. That was 2016 when he chased them down. I don't think they won.
They won that year, 2016.
They did?
Yeah.
He led the entire finals in points, rebounds, steals, blocked shots.
Yeah.
So, like, in that sense, that's like winning by yourself.
You played with Dwight in Orlando, Houston, Washington, L.A.
Shit.
Why doesn't D. Howard get the respect he deserves?
Why doesn't he get the respect he deserves?
Yeah, we ain't going to talk about what he got going on off the field.
Let's set that aside.
Let's talk about the player on the court.
Probably because I think he probably was a little bit too goofy.
Like, he played too much, in my opinion.
So, like, everybody else don't understand that type of, like, personality when they're thinking of greatness, I guess.
Like, it's different.
Like, he has, like, the smile and he likes to, like, laugh and get along.
But, you know, having a smile and being a killer is, you know, I don't know.
The only person to get that off is
is magic yeah what was he like in the locker room was he a good teammate he seemed like i mean like
you said he was very you know fun outgoing fun loving but i mean the dude was it was a 20 and 10
2010 24 2014 guy he's a three-time defensive consecutive defensive player of the year uh
in his prime he was a top five player finished second defensive player of the year uh in his prime
he was a top five player finished second in the mvp voting so they make it seem like the man was
i can see if he laughing and joking and giving you seven and eight yeah he laughing and joking
give you 2014 with three and a half blocks he he's been disrespected completely for his talent
and the things that he's done to this game. How shocked are you? John Wall, he has, man, he went through it.
I think he had like an ACL and then he tore his Achilles
and then he lost his mom.
He had a stretch where he really went through it.
Yeah.
Do you think his career is over?
Nah, his career ain't over until he put it down.
Right.
But, man, he had a rough go at, you know,
he had some years where it wasn't wasn't, you know, nobody.
Everybody was struggling in that situation that he that he went through.
So where he is at this point is unfortunate.
There was a situation in the Clippers locker room after the game and they confronted some of the players.
I mean, what did the little Tony with a little tone of somebody knew about a secret passage?
Did you know about that passage?
I mean, everybody that plays in the NBA.
They knew about it.
The locker rooms are right there.
Right.
What about it?
So what set that off?
What set that off?
There was an altercation or like, you know, words being exchanged on the court.
And me and one of my old teammates, we you know, we was talking to each other.
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getting in right in between family business that's the situation and so you're like okay
yeah so i didn't understand i didn't you didn't understand what you got to do with it yeah
i didn't hear what he had to say so you know the person that I am I wanted to know what he had to say
right do you ever take it probably okay in the heat of the battle they're like
ah man Pam in your face trip take that pump you know what you can't guard me do
you take that person you say okay we just in the game nah yeah it's not
personal unless it's disrespectful yeah so Unless? It's disrespectful. Right. So, like,
there's a few trigger words
that become disrespectful.
And so then you're like,
hold on now.
Okay, yeah,
you got them two on me now,
but come on now.
Yeah, no,
it's cool.
Like, if that's what you do,
that's what you do.
Right.
You know,
I don't take it personal
because I understand
you're a basketball player.
Right.
And this is basketball. But I remember remember I do remember this because Trey plays with the
Hawks I'm from Georgia lived in Atlanta still got a place there he tried to nutmeg you yeah
you check the man yeah you can let him holler blow try to you fuck no we're not even in like
again he's he he's unbelievable right and I've been seeing them do it and i watched them gearing
up to try to like do it to me and it was just reaction it wasn't like you know i'm like oh
you need me to put me on the highlight tape no it's not that just play with your peers right
that's yeah that's not for me
you guarded lebron you guarded kobe that's those guarded Kobe. Those are your assignments.
You're going into the game.
What's your mindset going into the game?
You guard Kobe.
What's your mindset going into the game?
Guard LeBron.
And what's your toughest matchup?
Well, Kobe will be the tougher matchup.
And Kobe is the tougher matchup because he's way more relentless.
LeBron is more like of he's relentless in a different way.
He's going to make the right play.
So Bron will beat you up, get into the paint, and, like, kick it out.
And you're like, whew, shit.
Where Kobe is, Kobe will beat you up, get in the paint, pump fake you,
pump fake you, spin, pump fake you again, get you in the air,
beat you up, and won.
And won.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that's like complete embarrassment.
Players under 25, you want to build your team around.
You got Zion, you got John, you got some issues.
Anthony Edwards.
Anthony Edwards.
I was going to go Luka, Chet, Wim Minyama, Tyrese Halliburton,
Melo, Kay Cunningham.
I like Anthony.
You love Ant-Man.
I love Anthony Edwards, gang.
He's cool.
He definitely seems like a different animal this year.
He's super cool.
He will be the first person.
I like Melo.
LaMelo, he's real good.
Who else did you say?
Luka, for sure.
Luka's good.
Luka's really good.
Tyrese Halliburton.
Halliburton's really good.
He's a scorer.
You like that trade?
Halliburton from the Kings?
Oh, he's a point guard.
Yeah.
He's really good.
He's better than what I thought he was, like, initially.
He shoots from deep.
He can pass the ball, like, really, really well.
I think, what you call him, won that trade.
I think Indiana won that trade for Sabonis.
Sabonis is...
I mean, I like Sabonis.
He's a triple-double machine, 7-1, can rebound, can score,
can assist the basketball.
I think Indiana won that trade, too.
Yeah, yeah, they got him on that one.
What are your thoughts on Wimby?
Man, I don't think...
I think that he is extraordinary.
Like, he's an extraordinary talent.
Somebody asked me that earlier, but they compared him to KD, right,
as far as, like, scoring the ball.
And, like, the way that I try to, like, explain it,
I try to say, like, he's going to score explain it I try to say like he's gonna
score the ball because you know he's he's them for and he's the guy on the
team the percentage is how you're gonna be able to tell on who could possibly be
the better player so like wait till the end of the season give you 82 games and
the field goal percentage and the average would kind of determine who would kind of score more points.
Right.
Would be better.
Did you like the comparison when Shaq said Wimby is Bo Bo?
I understood what he was saying completely because Bo Bo got super skilled and super talented. I mean, I haven't been around him as a teammate or seen him or, you know,
been in a space where I can, like, get an ear to why he don't play.
But I can see him being similar.
Like the times that he did play last year or when he was in Orlando.
He was in Orlando, then he was at the Nuggets.
He killed in Orlando.
Like the stretch that he played, he was killing.. He was in Orlando, then he was at the Nuggets. He killed in Orlando. The stretch that he played,
he was killing.
So I understand the comparison.
We talked earlier,
you said Ant-Man is the best player.
For you, Ant-Man is the best player in the NBA.
Give me your top five players.
Top five?
Tatum.
Under a certain age?
No.
Damn. The top five players five player this is too many I like book I like I'm gonna go young I'm like but I like Anthony Edwards Luca Yoko Shandong YD. Uh do you play with uh I mean
you don't get Nick's. Who? I mean. No. I was wondering what
you thought about him. So how do you think he'll do in
Houston? Cuz it seem to have they playing well that's a very
young team. Yeah I I like what he does. He come like his
coaching background is a is a really good coaching background you know they
have principles so you know how you say like the heat way where he comes from they have a way as
well right um so those core principles have shown that they work throughout the years they're
timeless and um it seems like players like playing for him.
Right. Are you surprised that he was able to get a second
chance? I don't think I don't think what he did was an
unfair. I mean people oh he did this look okay. Okay. That's
between him and his partner. They they went on their separate
ways, but he ain't killed nobody. What did he do exactly?
I mean look look you know. No, I don't don't know well I mean anybody's that's
what I'm saying so like what it's saying what we say down south he put his penis
in his wallet that's what he did I mean I didn't that when we call it down south
so we have a saying well I don't know if it's appropriate to say we could be
without it necessary huh we could be without it necessary. Huh? We could be without it necessary
You stay out of dick and pussy business, right?
Okay, that's fair enough. That's fair enough
Dylan Brooks, what do you think of Brooks?
Hard nose. Yeah, I like his game. He play hard. He play hard as hell
You played in the two biggest markets New york la which one you like the best i'm a homer you
hold la through and through i'm a homer but did you like playing in new york i love playing in
new york i think i was too young to appreciate it completely but you know being at home is home
oh i got one for you you were second round draft pick in 2004. Who's the best second round draft pick of all time?
For me?
Yeah.
Gilbert.
Are you sure?
I mean, that's who came to my mind first.
You knew it.
There's a two-time MVP and a finals MVP that was in the second round.
Jokic.
Ooh.
Jokic is cold, bro. Jokic is cold, but...
Jokic is so cold.
I'll let you change it if you want to.
I ain't going to change it.
I'm going to go with Gilbert.
Gilbert is sick.
He just ain't winning.
So, Dmanu, Jokic, Gilbert, Draymond,
Dennis Rodman, Mark Gasol.
I'm not so sure.
Gil, I mean, Gil my guy,
but Gil might be...
He might be third or fourth on this list. I'm going so sure Drake. Gil, McGill my guy, but Gil might be, he might be third or fourth on this list.
I'm going with Gil.
I'm going with Gil for sure.
What the, the rookie contract,
you look at the salaries now.
Guys about to get a contract.
Jason Taylor about to get four on the,
damn near four on the mill.
That's beautiful.
And he 25.
So he gonna get another contract.
So he might do
a billion dollars
in NBA contracts.
Are you surprised?
Because I just remember
what was it?
Like five years ago,
Mike Conley had
the biggest contract
at $151 million.
Right.
I'm not surprised.
That means the game is growing.
Right.
And that's a beautiful thing.
Like you always want to see
people behind you
get better.
Evolution is always a good thing.
Right.
What were some of your best purchases?
I mean, you come in as a rookie, your seventh-round draft pick.
You weren't a lottery pick.
So what was one of your best purchases and one of your worst purchases as a rookie?
I guess being able to give my mom a house.
Right.
That was the best
feel-good thing for me
Probably the worst thing depreciating assets cars jewelry dumb shit
So as a rookie, you know, you got to take everybody you got to take the best out
Where you take him and how much you eat?
See so like for us it was different um they just make us do well i don't even know if they do that now but
when i was a rookie we used to have to like grab the bags right help the equipment manager take
the bags off the plane right uh in every city carry people's you's bags and stuff. Get donuts, sandwiches, chicken.
All that stuff.
We have to do that.
But I had vets that was super up.
They were real rich.
Right.
So they didn't get no issue out of me,
so they would take care of me.
Right.
L.A., there have been a lot of home invasions.
There have been a lot of rob invasions there been a lot of
you know
robberies with celebrities
how do you advise
players to move in LA
don't be flashy
like
keep your head on a swivel
at all times
and keep your shit off IG
cause they come get it
stay off IG
for sure
especially if you're not
if you're not from here
right
try to stay as
respectful as you possibly
can is that why you keep such a low profile i just feel like i like to move in the shadows period
right yeah your younger brother passed away falling in a hotel room how did that impact Trevor? My brother dying, I think it made me, it helped me more so than it hurt me.
And that's weird.
It sounds crazy, but it allowed me to pick up a ball and put my pain into the basketball instead of the other way.
Because it could have went the other way too
that's probably that i got in a lot of trouble when i was younger around that time right um but
basketball helped you cope basketball definitely helped it gave me an outlet to to let you know
all the emotions out and dating advice i mean having been 18 years uh you mentioned you have three kids is there any advice
that you gave rookies or that you received from the vets when you got into the league
that you later didn't in turn pass along stop lying
be honest you know i feel like um in a position where you, you have everything that you need or you want,
there's no need for you to lie to nobody.
Right.
So just be honest with who you are and what you're about.
And people that like you are going to like you anyway.
Right.
I read that Terrell Owens came to your Clipper Tribe.
Why was T.O. there?
I mean, y'all played together.
Y'all were cool like that.
I mean, support system.
You know what's crazy?
T.O. just is, I feel like he just loves the gym.
He's a gym rat completely.
And he happened to be there at the time, and he was in there watching.
That was dope.
T.O. swear he believe he could have played in the NBA.
He probably could have if he started a little bit earlier.
Right.
He's super athletic.
He's an athlete.
He can do everything.
Was he good?
I mean, I'm sure he's been open running.
He's played with some of the players.
You think he got a decent game?
I think he got a really good game for a professional athlete that played another sport.
What NBA player you think, if they would have started early could have played in the
NFL? Anthony Edwards. I like Anthony Edwards how you like Brian.
Fair enough, fair enough. What's next for Trevor Reza? What's next for me?
I like to say that when you see it and when you hear about it, then you're going to know.
That's it?
Yeah.
Silence.
Super silence.
People can't take shit from you when they don't know about it.
Yeah.
Trevor Reza.
Here, let's have this drink.
Congrats, 18 years. All the best, bro.
Appreciate it. Cheers. I'll see do it alone.
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