Club Shay Shay - Tyrese Gibson Part 2

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

In Part 2 of the episode Tyrese and Shannon also discuss having haters from your own neighborhood like Nipsey Hussle. Then the focus shifts to the power of social media, with Tyrese noting that it has... made lying more popular while highlighting that Denzel Washington avoids rumors by staying off social platforms. He humorously recalls the internet clapping back at Shannon for his tote bag and his infamous “two-hour-old” Air Force 1s, showcasing Tyrese’s sharp wit and playful nature. The conversation touches on Katt Williams’ memorable appearance on Club Shay Shay, with Tyrese calling him “Prophet Williams” and discussing the impact of Katt’s truth-telling, even when it’s uncomfortable. Tyrese talks about his ongoing joke with Akon and Ludacris about being dark-skinned and how communities like Jewish, Latino, and Asian people are more unified, though Black culture remains the most influential. Tyrese delves into the complexities of relationships, marriage, and the differences between men and women’s expectations, themes that are also explored in his latest album. He speaks about the importance of genuine friendships, especially in environments like Watts, and how the loyalty of his friends kept him on the right path. Finally, Tyrese reflects on the role of hardship in shaping his identity, asserting that he has no regrets because every struggle has sculpted him into the man he is today. He recounts his mother's scheme to pretend he had special needs for more government money and shares his thoughts on fame, privacy, and his refusal to let negative experiences define him. This episode is a masterclass in resilience, humor, and the art of storytelling, as Tyrese Gibson opens up like never before, providing listeners with a raw and inspiring look into his life and career. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:34 The problem is, for us, and it breaks my heart when I think about Nipsey Hussle. When I think about Nipsey, when I think about all the rap niggas and R&B niggas and all the black entertainers who don't understand the concept of keeping it real
Starting point is 00:00:53 versus keeping alive okay I ain't saying this to anybody specifically the moment you have kids the moment you have kids the moment that your net worth change your tax bracket change the square footage of your house change you got motherfuckers jealous of you right now and you you got two dollars with a wick voucher why are you getting so many food stamps compared to me? Why you got five WIC
Starting point is 00:01:26 vouchers? They're just out here jealous and envious and want your life. So what makes you think that they're not going to try and take your life if you keep coming back to the hood because you don't understand that everything about your life has changed? because you don't understand that everything about your life has changed. See, that brother Nipsey Hussle, he did the right thing from investing and buying the block. But not everybody on the block is happy for you. Not everybody in the block understands that what you're doing is much bigger than rapping and singing and acting and being in real estate anybody i i don't think i don't think most of us is thinking about real estate we thinking about man if we lead by example
Starting point is 00:02:14 and we do things to change things and we from the hood sh Shannon, everybody going to be happy for me, right? Look at what we did, y'all. No. Man, listen, you got many motherfuckers out here moving sleep over your gifts, man. Why? Why? You and I, we're black.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Let's speak to our community. Why? Why do we hate on each other? Why? It seems like we do. We want to see us, OK, get successful. And then we get a little success. Well, that's too much success. Let's try to knock him down. Everybody want to see you doing good, but nobody want to see you doing better than them. You talk about that, right? Yeah, I tell you what it is, because you got people out here praying right now for what I already have. got people out here praying right now for what I already have. You put a little jealousy and envy on it and they thinking that jealousy and envy is the motivator. You don't have to be jealous and
Starting point is 00:03:15 envious and lose sleep over what God has decided to do for me in order for you to do it. Now, you're an athlete. You're competitive. Okay? And you got muscles right now. Nigga, I didn't gave you my muscles six months ago. I didn't know you was going to still keep my shit. Okay? Now, y'all niggas out here looking at this nigga's muscles. This t-shirt that he's wearing came with the muscles.
Starting point is 00:03:40 This is Marvel Comics. It's also bled over into sports. OK, I had that shirt on yesterday for my goddamn movie and I had to put that shit up on the wall to give it back. But the point is, what y'all have to understand is. I don't remember the last time I lost sleep over a hater. I don't care the last time I lost sleep over a hater. I don't care who you fucking. My body count is up. My numbers.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Ooh. My God, my God. Hey, this R&B juice has been flying. Don't get this sweet lady game fucked up, nigga. It's called Sweet Lady. Vaginal activity for me has been real for 25 of them. I had to slow it down. The point is, the square footage you living in, that ain't mine.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Right. Your chains, your jewelry, your watch, who you dating, who you fucking, the way how beautiful your kids are, the fact that you'll drip from head to toe. Niggas is jealous of your hairline. It's bad. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:58 It's bad, man. It's bad. Listen, man. But when did it become cool, Tyrese, to just make up stuff about somebody? Has that always been the thing? Social media. Social media. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:05:17 If you're on the ground, then you're going to put some shit out there. You're going to say something, and you're going to become the topic of the discussion, which allows for them to twist and flip your shit. Now, listen, I've said and done some dumbass shit on social media. I've lost fans. Shut up. Somebody's like, hey, man. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I've said and done some dumb ass shit on social media. But guess what? If I had a problem with what people got to say about me, get off the internet. You ain't heard no rumors about Denzel. Because he ain't on the ground. True. Hey, let me ask y'all something.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Because you're so damn smart. What did Sade eat last week? Nobody knows. Who's she dating? What her house look like? What she drive? What private plane did she just get on last week? Nobody knows where Sade is.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Y'all young niggas don't. Some of y'all are like, who is Sade? Google Sade. Right. That's what I'm saying. So at the end of the day, when you invite people into your life and your world, then why are you bad that they're going to misunderstand you, twist your words, beat you up, beat the shit out you when they disagree with you? Create who you are and what your intentions are and what you stand for and Illuminati and devil worshipping and gay and homosexual.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I seen all the comments when you got out the car with your little orange tote bag. I still got it right over there. Where is it at? Where's that famous tote bag at? Holy shit. Give me that goddamn tote bag. This shit right here is so famous. This had niggas out here thinking, oh, he's gay. He's
Starting point is 00:07:19 officially out of here. We lost one. You gave niggas the orange fanny pack over the shoulder. And you walked your ass out like you was supposed to see a chiropractor that week. That motherfucker had a different kind of wiggle. That nigga, that is an ex-NFL player. That nigga can walk however way he want to walk, goddamn. All of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:07:45 Shea Shea, Shea Shea is gay. Y'all niggas out your God damn mind, man. Man, see, I need to see a chiropractor. You think it's easy to be 6'5",
Starting point is 00:07:58 sitting in the back seat, sitting upright like this, nigga, for 45 minutes when you a NFL player? These niggas are crazy out here, man. What more do you want from me?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Congratulations. I uploaded that goddamn video and they still cracking jokes about me to this day. If I didn't have a camera, if I didn't tell niggas who I was dating, who I was fucking, what I was driving, what I live in, where I'm going, what I'm doing, the yellow
Starting point is 00:08:23 tail sashimi with the jalapeno peppers. Nobody wouldn't have shit to say. We put our shit out there. And we got a problem with what their understanding is. You don't know why I'm dating this girl. Who I'm fucking is not up for discussion. I'm a grown ass man, dog. But if you're going to be posting about who you're dating,
Starting point is 00:08:50 if you're going to keep niggas up to date every step of the way about who you're dating, things might be couple's goals until you're no longer the couple goal. We all know. We understand. You know what cutting and pacing is right you know you know what putting a filter is to make your face look all smooth and shit yeah that ain't the way your face look you got pimples all over your goddamn face right now i'm just saying
Starting point is 00:09:17 i came here to see how bright is this nigga teeth for real in real life. His shit is really bright, y'all. This ain't no mother. He ain't got no low light shooting up to his teeth. His shit, his teeth are as white as his goddamn Air Force One. I'm seeing this shit in real time. I'm telling y'all, man, if you don't understand, we live in a world right now. I'm going to tell you what's uncomfortable about Cat Williams. Can I tell you?
Starting point is 00:09:46 Sure, go ahead. I got to tell you, man. Oh, man. Oh, shit, I'm sweating. This is what happened. Black and greasy and shit. Makeup. Makeup!
Starting point is 00:09:56 Shit. Okay. Anyway, I don't need no makeup. Now, Cat Williams. Jesus, did he break the internet? Oh, God. Nigga still ain't recovering. You know what his name is to me?
Starting point is 00:10:12 His name is Prophet Williams. Prophet Cat Williams. Man's a prophet. My God, my God, my God. My God, my god, my god My god, my god, my god The littlest prophet you'll ever see He's a prophet He's a prophet
Starting point is 00:10:35 now the wildest thing is this Before y'all I hear you whispering. I'm sorry. I love y'all. My ADD is real. A whisper is like a microphone boom right here. The Cat Williams thing was so crazy for all of us to see. I must have watched that full interview four times.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Go watch it again, please. I will, because I know them Air Force Ones you got on is two hours old. Hey, you got the box over there. Oh, shit. Anyway, Cat Williams killed us all with all that he said and talked about and exposed allegedly. Yes. About everything and everybody. But the wildest thing is we, not black people, all people, we have gotten so used to the lie. The truth is uncomfortable. He spoke his truth.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Yes. He didn't speak my truth. He didn't speak your truth. He spoke his truth. So we clear. Yes. I'm not saying the cat told the truth. Right didn't speak your truth. He spoke his truth. So we clear. Yes. I'm not saying Kat told the truth. Right. And I'm not being politically correct. If I wanted to go at anybody that Kat Williams went at. I'll do it because I'm crazy and I speak my mind. Right. Kat did a great job of exposing all that he wanted to expose during his interview he spoke his truth he shed light on things that he wanted to talk about and address and then everything else that
Starting point is 00:12:31 happened followed see we live in a world right now where you fell in love with david copperfield you fell in love with the smoke you have fell in love with who people appear to be. Do you know what the fuck a magician is? They got hand movement. Sleight of hand. More smoke. Smoke. They don't want you to see the truth.
Starting point is 00:12:59 They don't want to expose what's actually being said, what's actually being done, what's actually going on. And so the world has gotten used to the lie. So the truth goes viral. couples goals won't be couples goals if them niggas upload them arguing every goddamn day right why are they couple goals because you put a filter on it you didn't cut and paste it you didn't grab the ribbon and bought that motherfucker hermes bags that she didn't deserve you just met this nigga fuck you bought 12 Hermes bags for the Birkin with the Gator shit hunting 200 300 thousand dollars for that thing you just got this nigga you just met her last week you
Starting point is 00:13:56 just sent her a DM what are you doing you're insecure and you're buying too much shit trying to impress somebody but what you're doing for them because you know they don't feel that way about you so you're trying to purchase your way into feelings and then you put the shit up on instagram and you got everybody believing that the love is the love but you have purchased your way into the love that nigga don't feel that way about you that's uncomfortable so you put a filter on it you edit it you cut and paste it and then you're living in it you've been living the lie for so goddamn long you believe your own lie you've been telling that same lie over lunches and dinners sitting across from other couples they're real
Starting point is 00:14:38 your shit is fake y'all niggas argued all the way to the restaurant and all the way home you're sleeping in two different rooms. When you going to upload that? When you going to upload the fact that I love you, but I don't like you? When they going to put that out there? They not going to do it. Because the concept of couples goals is way more sexy than niggas knowing I hate your goddamn guts. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:08 You understand me? I do. Okay, so Cat Williams went viral. Well, why'd they get mad at me for what Cat said? Cat said it. Because it's your platform, motherfucker. What that card say? But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Let me see the card. No, hell no. Let me see the ashy-ass card. Remember I told you, you said. Thank you. You ain't even send me no questions. I didn't know Cat was going to say, I ask a question. Man, you ain't do nothing wrong but create the platform.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And I don't post nothing about my social life because I ain't got one. That's why you came here ashy? Yeah. See? If you had some fans. You think you can let me come out the house ashy? That's Britt's fault, though. Yes, sir. Who's that? Yeah. See? If you had some fans. You think you let me come out the house ashy? That's Britt's fault, though. Yes, sir. Who's that? Britt.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Okay. Well, you know, listen. You ain't doing nothing wrong. You ain't doing nothing wrong. Anybody who called you, text you, jumped in your comments, came at you about what Cat Williams said on your platform, they out there got their mind. You just showed up black and ashy, nigga.
Starting point is 00:16:06 You provided the platform. You ain't got a fucking thing to do with what anybody's going to sit here and say. I didn't know what your question was going to be on your ashy cards. No, you didn't. Okay, so guess what? Whatever it is that I'm saying here,
Starting point is 00:16:18 whatever topics I'm going into, whatever I'm unpacking, we just sitting there shooting the shit, chilling. Right. And so, listen, anybody else who come on here trying to explain or clarify or over-explain anything that Cat accused them of or said or did or exposed, man, listen, bro, that's life. You know, at the end of the day, if you didn't say it and you didn't do it, well, you feel the need to explain it. Move the fuck on. Anybody who loves you didn't say it and you didn't do it what you feel the need to explain it move
Starting point is 00:16:45 the fuck on ain't nobody anybody who love you gonna still love you correct rather somebody try and expose something or shed light on something or not come on man we we do this shit every single day bro all you got to understand is i've lost a lot of sleep right over accusations and things that people have said about me, coming at me, or whatever else, as well. There's going to be people in the comments now. Should y'all hate Ashy Black
Starting point is 00:17:12 because of what I said as co-Ashy? Are y'all going to hate Ashy and co-Ashy because of what we're sitting there talking about? That's not right, man. Ashy Black was a character in Hustle and Flow. That was Luda. Luda's character name was Ashy Black.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I didn't know that. Was that his character? That's my brother. I didn't know that. That was in the movie Hustle and Flow. I didn't know that. Yeah. That's a John Singleton, Craig Brewer film.
Starting point is 00:17:43 You know, Memphis, Tennessee. Yes, sir. But I didn't know that that was his name. Was Ashy Black or Crunchy Black? Why was he Ashy? It might be Crunchy Black. Crunchy Black. He likes it.
Starting point is 00:17:52 He's Ashy. Ludacris ain't with Ashy. But you got to, I mean, look. The rappers get named. How you come up with that name? I mean, Ashy is normally our community. Yeah. You know, I ain't never wore sunblock in my life.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I do. Ashy. You what? I do't never wore sunblock in my life. I do. Ashton, you what? I do. You wear sunblock? I have to. You hanging around with way too many white people. Nah, I blister. My nose, man, I done blistered my nose. That is a big ass nose. That sun has a long big motherfucking landing strip.
Starting point is 00:18:21 See, I don't, I ain't got no white people nose. Hey, nigga, listen. As we're sitting here, I need to be very, very careful with how deep I inhale because you taking up your goddamn ass or something. I'm sitting here like this, nigga. Look, go ahead and ask your question. Ask me a question.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Wait, I'm going to be like this. Look. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Go ahead and ask your question. Wait, wait. Ask me a question.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Go ahead. Baby boy. Man, you act basically like we're on the elevator and we stuck in the elevator, but so much oxygen before they get us, before they get us out of here. You don't see the carbon moving when you inhale. Shannon inhales, nigga, look. God damn. You don't feel you don't see the carpet moving when you Shannon inhale nigga look
Starting point is 00:19:09 Anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah you you I understand but look just put some block on your nose man. Don't put it on your face It's okay with getting darker. See I'm actually jealous of a con Huh? Yeah, I'm jealous. I get around that black motherfucker all the time. I'm so mad at how much darker he is than me. He's like blurple, black and purple. It's him. And speaking of Luda, ludicrous manager Shaka Zulu. Let me show you the running joke. Skinny black. Skinny black. See, I knew it was something black. Let me let me give you all the running joke.
Starting point is 00:19:44 And to all the dark skin folks out there, I'm it was something black. Let me give y'all the running joke and to all the dark-skinned folks out there, I'm going to give y'all one. Comedians, if y'all upload this, I'm going to come back on Shannon's show and I'm going to say, you stole my shit, motherfucker. You need to give me 10% of your show that you made that night. So here's the running joke with me,
Starting point is 00:20:00 Akon, and Shaka Zulu. Okay? Okay? The baby pictures. See the baby pictures? Oh, man, they double the black screen. Hey, man. Hey, boy, you got some beauties.
Starting point is 00:20:22 You got some good baby pictures on there, man. Black ass. You can't see nothing. OK, so that's that's that's that's what it is, man. You know, I love I love being in this skin and I love my life and I don't lose sleep over nobody else's gift. And then I'm going to say this, man. You know, I wish everybody well, man. I like listen. Here's a here's a twist on jealousy and black culture and this. Who is this going to be controversial, but I'm going to say it. This is going to be controversial, but I'm going to say it.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Would you agree or disagree that physically on Earth there's more black people than the overall Jewish community? Yes or no. If you were born and raised Jewish, are there more physical people a part of the Jewish community than the overall black community in numbers? Yes or no? I would probably say there's probably more black when you look at the continent of Africa. The whole world. Yeah. I would say yes. Yes. See, they got their shit together.
Starting point is 00:21:43 See they got their shit together Community Working with each other Doing dinners every Friday Putting the phone down and discussing The chess moves and the play See us as black people We're fragmented You can't do nothing
Starting point is 00:22:00 Fragmented Can't do nothing jealous and envious Now this is not going to go viral because I got a Jewish daughter. So relax. Latinos, the Latin community, they don't move as a fragmented race and culture. That's why they own everything. That's why they buying up all of the businesses. The Asian community. They don't move as a fragmented culture. That's why they buying up everything. We are the most powerful, influential race, period. Not by net worth.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Not by politics. Culture. You know how many things has been done to us to beat the shit out of this smile, and I'm still smiling. to beat the shit out of this smile and I'm still smiling. The resilience of black culture after every attempt to kill and literally get rid of us, wipe us off the face of the fucking earth and we still smiling, still in the videos dancing, still influencing what they're wearing, what they're doing,
Starting point is 00:23:30 what the direction that they're deciding to move in. We're not watching them the way they're watching us. But they got their shit together, so they always going to win. Why are we mad, though? Don't keep talking about the Jewish community. Be inspired by what happens when they link up. What you mad at? Guess some.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Have you ever won a Super Bowl by yourself, Shannon? No. Have you ever won a game by yourself? No. No? All black people on the same NFL team, right? Right? Sometimes I feel like I'm playing by myself.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Yeah. I understand. I just kidding. But it was still about 17 of y'all on that line, though. Even though you was the star. Okay? I ain't really watched sports since Emmitt Smith. I'm old. I go back.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I ain't watched TV since Emmitt Smith. I'm old. I go back. I ain't watched TV since Martin. And I ain't watched sports really since Emmitt Smith and Bo Jackson and Nolan Ryan. I go back to when I was really into sports. I fell off at some point.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Kobe got me and I love LeBron. That's my little sports. I ain't looking for no sports credibility in front of a sports legend, but just letting y'all know, like, it takes a team. The world you come from, which is interesting, similar to my world, but very different. You have white ownership. They're standing on a united front.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Now, keep in mind, before you all get all worked up, I don't have a racist bone in my body. I'm trying to tell you all some uncomfortable truths. And these truths might be uncomfortable because I'm talking to you. Goofy ass, fragmented ass person. OK, the NFL on all the teams, the NFL on the NBA. But we as black culture are running up and down that basketball court. And once we get our shit together, we win championships. We get the rings. We get to come home with the gold from the Olympics. We didn't pay for our salaries. We don't own the planes that the teams are being transported on. didn't pay for our salaries we don't own the planes that the teams are being transported on we don't own the arenas or the the stadiums but if we as black culture which take up the majority
Starting point is 00:25:54 of black sports if we were fragmented we wouldn't win shit so we come together and we we we get on the same we huddle we talk we practice shannon yeah we create the algorithm and we kill everything in its path for those teams wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps, and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee. No dumb hot takes here, just smart hot takes. We'll talk every single game, every single week, but I can't do it alone, so I'm bringing in the big guns from NFL media.
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Starting point is 00:28:25 And yet we are the minority. We are the majority and yet we are the minority we are the majority but we're the minority so how how I'm asking you all the agents all the managers all the lawyers in Hollywood all the heads of all the studios don't keep attacking Jewish people because they
Starting point is 00:28:41 got their shit together man don't all the press the media the news outlets and all that that everybody's got this big big problem with. They own it, they run it, they operate it, they control it, whatever that might be. What's the problem? You mad at the community of people that got their shit together? You had your shit together on the football field. That's why y'all won. The days y'all didn't have y'all shit together, you lost.
Starting point is 00:29:11 You never won one single game by your team. You might have ran the most yards. You might have gotten the most touchdowns. You might have took over all the highlight reels. But you were still on that football team with your whole squad. Would you agree? I'd agree. Okay, so guess what?
Starting point is 00:29:27 Go out there and try and fly solo all you want. You ain't going to get shit. So why get mad at them for having their shit together? How do we convince our community? Stop this sniping. Because someone might have more than you, that doesn't necessarily mean they think might have more than you. That doesn't necessarily mean they think they're better than you. And so that jealousy ain't going to go away anytime.
Starting point is 00:29:51 So how do we win Tyrese? Well, we win by doing interviews like this to point out the obvious. You don't know what you don't know. You don't know that you've lost way too much sleep over somebody else's dream. What the fuck is the problem? This is club Shay Shay if you want to be club Tay Tay nigga go You want to be club ray-ray You want to be something that's got to be something
Starting point is 00:30:22 Go figure that shit out. Shea. I love you. I just met you, right? Right. Hear me. As a black man talking to a black man, there is literally, this is going to make some of y'all so uncomfortable, there is literally nothing about your success, your handsome, your muscles, your career, anything that you're doing. There is nothing about who you are,
Starting point is 00:30:46 what you've done, what you've achieved, and what God is doing, has done, and about to do that will ever have me lose asleep at night, my brother. Nor should it.
Starting point is 00:30:57 It does for a lot of people. Because my thing is, Tyrese. That's why they're in your comments talking shit about your life. They want them Cat Williams numbers so bad. That's what it's about. They want them numbers. Even your racist-ass old co-host.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Whoever he is. Where is he? You got that oil on you, bruh. That oil is uncomfortable, Shay. But let me ask you this. And that orange backpack, but, you know. You like that? You like that? I mean.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Let somebody else put that orange ugly. That bag is ugly, by the way. No, it ain't. Well, actually, it's alright. Yeah. But let somebody else put that thing on. They not gonna go viral. Let somebody else. Fat Joe got, Fat Joe had it on. 2 Chainz got it. There are a lot of guys got it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:31:48 There's a lot of niggas that interviewed Cat Williams before you and a lot of niggas tried to milk. Oh! Y'all don't want me to say that shit. Why did y'all interview Cat Williams after Shay Shay? Y'all want them numbers but y y'all not going to get them numbers. That shit is uncomfortable. If it's about an interview and him being raw and unfiltered and telling people how he feel about what he see and what he feel
Starting point is 00:32:21 and what his truth is, why did nobody else do the numbers because they ain't got they ain't got that oil on them their name ain't shannon and them niggas definitely ain't sharp i'm gonna walk out of this come on man i believe it. So now you Oprah? No, no. I'm sorry, Oprah? What else? Now you Oprah?
Starting point is 00:32:49 Because here's the thing. Why you doing Oprah numbers, Shannon? Because God. Why Gayle King ain't doing these numbers? After she interviewed Kat. Oil. Favor ain't fair, my brother. You can't explain it, Shannon't i can't it's the timing
Starting point is 00:33:08 it's the oil it's the favor it's the specific hand that's on your life if they keep losing sleep over my gifts motherfucker you never gonna wake up so in other words them trying to be successful while trying to make me unsuccessful because they didn't put me in the situation. It's gonna keep thrusting you. Your haters will become your congratulators.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And the more stones they throw at your ass, your mansion gonna get bigger. That private plane. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. You ain't got no private plane? You ain't got no private plane? Hell no.
Starting point is 00:33:47 It's coming. No, I'm... You might not be interested. Okay, I'm gonna speak. I want a private plane. Okay, there you go. You might not be interested. You said there's power in the tongue.
Starting point is 00:33:54 You might not be interested. I'm tired of niggas recognizing me walking through the airport. I'm tired of wearing masks and having to hide. I'm tired of these motherfuckers canceling flights. And I want to know my pilot by his first name. I want to send a nigga some gifts because I like him. Well, you better go get dealt to one of private suites. No, man.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Fuck that. I want my own plane. And it's coming. And if they lose their sleep, rather my cars are leased or I own them, they're going to keep losing sleep over this oil over my life. When you get that private plane, can I hitch a ride back to L.A.? Absolutely. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Absolutely. I got you because we about to do some numbers. Okay. You underdog me. I know what this is. Tyrese, I read what you said. Terrence Howard took a lot of your roles because he's light-skinned. Here you go.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Black man with green eyes. Here you go with some controversy. What role he take from you? That's a misunderstanding. And you about now, this is algorithm, Shannon. You said it. I'm sharp as a motherfucking nail.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Moving on. I never said that. You twisted my words. I got no problem with that light-skinned man. I ain't clearing up shit. Because I'm not talking about that black man. And I don't want my words to be twisted and misunderstood that man did not take one role from me i said specifically
Starting point is 00:35:12 that long before it was cool to be blue black in hollywood yes everybody light skin or on the spectrum yes had way more opportunities going towards them than us. Yeah, life can use a man. I never said he took one specific role for me. They never said Tyrese or Terrence. They twisted my word. Didn't you just sit here and talk about niggas twisting words? No, I say they lied. There ain't no twisting words. They lied.
Starting point is 00:35:36 They lied about what? Me. Oh, okay. Oh, he only likes this. Oh, he did that. Somebody said. Well, who is that somebody that's been in my circle? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Bucket ain't said it. Who is Bucket? My homeboy over there for 40 years. What's up, Bucket? What up, man? My nigga. So that's the thing. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:35:57 The line. You said something very interesting. You said dating publicly, you put all this stuff on social media. If you had to do it over again, would you live your this stuff on social media if you had to do it over again would you put would you live your life publicly on social media absolutely i don't live in regret bro you have no regret none None No, sir Whatever this life wants to dish out on me. Mm-hmm. It prunes me into something else when it fucks me up it Changes me into something it ah, I Don't like problems, but what was I supposed to learn from this problem? I don't like problems, but what was I supposed to learn from this problem?
Starting point is 00:36:47 I don't like being broke, but do you have a problem? See, some niggas think I wanted to sing and become successful and get out the hood. I became successful because I was tired of feeling stuck, broke, lonely, fucked up. My mama made us play retarded, bro, and go to the Social Security building to get Social Security checks. Man, you been scheming a long time, Tyrese. Damn! My mama have.
Starting point is 00:37:11 No, I ain't no mama. You flooded the house. You ran in the building. You pretended like you was in the same classroom, K through 12. Had two naps. No offense with the word retarded. That kind of just slipped out.
Starting point is 00:37:26 It flowed out. I'm sorry. My mama made them people believe that I was on the spectrum. And we started collecting insurance money every month. And me and my brother, we both, that was my first performance. That was my first motherfucking role. See, I got that bag. Hey, my mama gave me, that was
Starting point is 00:37:49 the first high five she ever gave me. You played the shit out of that role. Man, you in the people office walking backwards. What happened? You in the people office walking backwards. Man, Tyree, you've been acting for 45 years,
Starting point is 00:38:08 man. Damn. Damn. Hey, that's what it is. That's a visual. You fucked up if you're walking backwards, nigga. That's another level. God damn, nigga, you walking in reverse.
Starting point is 00:38:24 You committed. Let me ask you this you walking in reverse. You committed. Let me ask you this. Oh, shit. Social media. Yes, sir. Is it more of a help or detriment to society? What do you think it is? It's beautiful, man.
Starting point is 00:38:36 It's beautiful. Social media. How you use it? It's beautiful because you still have the choice. No one has taken the choice away from you to upload your life as often as you uploaded my brother I Don't need to know what hotel you staying at if you want me to know put the shit up on your Instagram. I Don't need to know what you're doing who you fucking would you eat and where you're going what events you got coming up?
Starting point is 00:39:02 Now come on man look at the success that you had you wouldn't have had it without the pivots and without going viral without social media without people and then that's going to come with people talking good bad creating you got whole youtube videos online right now and you got niggas out here that have convinced a lot of people of a lot of shit about you that you're waking up to like nigga if i didn't know me i would believe that shit now i know this nigga because i've woken up to court documents and baby mamas and i'm reading that shit like nigga if if I didn't know what the fuck actually happened nigga this shit sound believable as a motherfucker and then it leaks on TMZ because court documents
Starting point is 00:39:53 is public and now I gotta go the next six months trying to get niggas to believe the truth when the lie will always get more traction. The lie is always more popular. You know what? If you think I'm playing, I'm going to announce it early. If you think I'm playing, the day before you air this interview, I'm going to tell niggas me and you got in a fight. Fuck that nigga.
Starting point is 00:40:34 You know that's going viral. You're fucking right. Because the lie will always be more popular than the truth. Bro, listen. Listen, man. I've been telling people, man, women, with all due respect, I'm not misogynistic when I say this. I'm not some condescending man. Listen, man. All these women out here that are singing. Are trying to convince everybody in the world that they hate men. They don't need a man. They don't want a man, they don't desire a man,
Starting point is 00:41:06 and that they can do bad all by themselves. Nobody wants to go home. Here's the memo. And I want the word. Do me a favor. Editor, whoever the editor, what's your editor name? Well, C.J. Cuppin handles that. C.J. Cuppin.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Okay, that sounds fancy. Okay, so look, whoever your editor is, I want you to put the bouncing ball under this. OK, here's a memo to all of the beautiful women in the world. Rather, you've been celebrate five, 10 years. Rather, you have seen other women go through divorces or you've been through a divorce yourself. Here's the bouncing ball that I want them to add in post-production. that I want them to add in post-production. Nobody needs to go home to a poodle and a vibrator. Nobody needs to be alone, nobody should be alone.
Starting point is 00:41:59 This concept of being alone is bullshit, because most of your favorite female singers that are out here singing this song are going home to their man, their fiance, or their husband. Rather you know it or not, that's on you. You believe that toxic-ass shit. That's why you're filling up the arenas with it. Nobody wants to be alone, sir. No man. This is biblical companionship. Look it up,
Starting point is 00:42:29 non-biblical people. So I was not devastated when my divorce ended because I wanted someone or something to be with me. I got married because I wanted to do it for the rest of my life. Because I loved the way I felt and what I had in my marriage and my family. It became a world within a world within a world. And it was a world that I had never experienced prior to that. Honeymoon, love, beauty, magic,
Starting point is 00:43:06 everything, my brother. Fucking up there with the Care Bears. Floating, bro. My God. Some shit that... It was everything you... Everything that you thought it would be... I'm saying some shit right now
Starting point is 00:43:20 that's so foreign. Like, what is... If you get rid of the vibrator and the poodle, you'll understand what I'm talking about. Okay. Marriage. Some other, other, other shit,
Starting point is 00:43:31 my brother. Oh, my. Don't get it fucked up. But she could leave me all she wants. I was devastated and crushed. Specifically, I let God down.
Starting point is 00:43:47 You see? I didn't promise her anything. But you can't make somebody stay where they don't want to be. Father God, I love you and I trust you. Yeah. Through thick and thin, sickness and health, for better, for worse, till death do us part, along with all the other words. That's not God's opinion. That is the word of God. I gave God my word. And neither one of us are dead. So where the fuck are you at?
Starting point is 00:44:21 See, I'm thinking that what's going to happen? Karma. She left me. Yes. And this is not a narcissist saying you should have stayed with somebody that you didn't want to stay with, irregardless of being married or not. That's that toxic ass narrative for all of that community. You think your grandparents are celebrating 50 years of marriage because your grandfather never cheated on her nigga?
Starting point is 00:44:50 Stop playing. When your grandmama going to tell you, grandbaby, how many times your grandfather was a rolling stone, smashing everything in the neighborhood? This was prior to social media. We're going to celebrate 60 years of marriage and not tell people how you were able to get through all of that. Your wife was down to 80 pounds after she had to go through chemotherapy and all of those random sicknesses. You stayed.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Money up. Money down. You stayed. Are we loyal? Are we loyal to the net worth? Motherfucker. Because the net worth is going to change. I'm going to be up.
Starting point is 00:45:42 I'm going to be down. That doesn't change. what we promise God. So you got to understand what you don't understand for the people watching. Now, the married folks at home, hallelujah, they're going to be screaming and hooping and hollering because they know it ain't easy to be married. And they also understand the magic and the beauty of marriage in itself. And I never understood that until Rev Run became my best friend. I had never consistently, key word, boys and girls, I had never consistently ever been around a married man prior to Rev Run to understand what marriage, wife, family, it it ain't arguing it's how do you argue
Starting point is 00:46:28 you see that that's that's the difference everybody gonna argue with two random people that don't know each other your family ain't got nothing to do with my family your triggers ain't got nothing to do with my family your upbringing ain't got none We hope and we pray that a lot of who we are aligned But when they don't we gonna argue about Question is how are you arguing? What are you arguing about? How are you arguing is the question and married folks Understand we've been married for five years. Let me just ask you, because I love to ask questions sometimes before I make a point.
Starting point is 00:47:14 If you drove the same car without putting gas in it, doing an oil change, putting gas in it, doing an oil change, ever getting the carburetor or anything that has to do with your car for five straight years, what would happen? Well, I'm going to run out of gas before that five years, so I ain't going to be able to go. But obviously you have to do certain things. Let's say electric car. Yeah. You got to get it serviced. Let's go. Let's go. Twenty twenty five. Right. If you have an electric car that gets recharged without you ever having to plug up, will you be able to be in this physical car for five straight years without getting something done?
Starting point is 00:47:59 No. You got to get tires changed. You got to get the brake pads, right? Plugs. Yeah. OK. That's what marriage is. It is a work in progress. And everybody on Instagram was fucked up is y'all are robbing people of knowing how challenging marriages are because you ain't uploading the challenges. be couples goals all you want because people are still gonna be inspired by you even if they know how challenging your marriage has been but most of the people will never know I ain't talked to my wife in three weeks because we keep arguing about this shit and I'm fucking exhausted and yeah we live in the same house but she over there and I'm over here we don't eat together we don't talk together we ain't touch each other we ain't flirting we ain't together we ain't this and that that ain't me I'm talking about people will never upload that so what they upload is when they finally start getting along again
Starting point is 00:48:59 so that makes the whole world believe the lie. They've been happy all this time. The lie is more important than people telling the truth. Now, the truth is uncomfortable. Nobody is as open as me. You know, this is why my manager don't like doing interviews like this. Because, oh, shit. You're going to be too honest. I'm always, you know, that's why that's why I do what I do. I post the way I post. I live my life. You can you can Google it for the lifetime of you.
Starting point is 00:49:33 I have always been a man who prides himself in walking, living and breathing. Not the truth. The truth is your perception of what the truth is. My truth. I will never play victim. I will never lie. I will never make sure that you like me versus like her or like them because they're going to steal the light. They're going to like who they like. Goofy ass. You could write the longest caption in the world. They're going to steal fuck with who they fuck with. You'll never be able to get your worst enemy to ever not be an enemy.
Starting point is 00:50:10 You can have veins coming out your neck, the biggest voice ever. They ain't fucking with you, bro. Are you okay with that? And if you want everybody to like you, Shannon, be ice cream. I don't know too many niggas who got a problem with ice cream. I know they trying to go dairy.
Starting point is 00:50:29 They trying to go eco-friendly on the ice cream. But nigga, ain't nothing like some motherfucker dairy in the ice cream. You mentioned that when you got married, you was like, this is forever. You made a promise before God. When your marriage ended, was that the most pain you'd ever felt?
Starting point is 00:50:46 Yes, because nobody has ever mattered. And I've never allowed anyone to matter as much as my marriage mattered. I've also never gave anyone so much of myself ever. And I know you hear a lot of women say that, but us as men, I want to just. Oh, this is going to be controversial. I say to all the ladies, you've been you've been ready to get married since elementary. Us as men. Our penis belongs to everybody.
Starting point is 00:51:25 And that's what we get love for. that's what we get love for. That's what we get respect for. That's what the homies love you in the locker room for. Because we out here going big. And our numbers that we putting up on the board and who we smashing and how many we smashing, how often we smashing and how many we smashing at one time. We get love for that. Women call women hoes. We't gotta do it when you overly promiscuous women attack women i ain't finna attack you because you knocked down five last week because you hot me shannon sharp
Starting point is 00:51:58 streets fuck you mean i see black ass Ocho sitting over here. That's my nigga right there. Ocho been hot in these motherfucking streets just like me. Nigga dark skinned community. Knocking them down. And I'm sure we done knocked down a couple of them that we knew together. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:52:18 How you losing sleep over what another man out here doing? That 50 year old nigga still in the club for a reason. He ain't done. He trying to knock him down. He trying to knock down every bad bitch on human feet. That's the narrative. Now, y'all are ready to get married because you've been sold on the dream.
Starting point is 00:52:38 You've been sold on the fantasy. You've been sold on the white picket fence and the horse and finding your man's man and riding to the motherfucking sunset. That is the fantasy. That is the Disney picture. Find any real men as a kid is sitting up watching Cinderella movies. No fucking Cinderella movie on my TV when I was in the hood. See, which means I was robbed of the fantasy.
Starting point is 00:53:04 They know Prince Charming on my TV. I wasn't watching them cartoons. I'm watching He-Man. We'll get you out of this co-parenting. How difficult is it to co-parent? Wait, hold on. If we about to wrap up, I want to talk about Beautiful Pain.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Okay, well, let's talk about it then. Yeah, please. Beautiful Pain, with all these old niggas y'all got watching this show, they gonna have to buy this grown ass album. You got the cover? You want to get the cover? What happened?
Starting point is 00:53:29 No, you want to get the cover. Oh, praise God. Yeah, we gonna get into that. Let's go Beautiful Pain on it. Thank you, my brother. See, that's my childhood homie from eight years old right there. Clutch. What's up, Yotta?
Starting point is 00:53:39 No, you want to show it? Yeah. Okay, my boy Kenyatta, man. Kenyatta. No, we'll talk about it. Okay. Edit this out, okay? I want to talk about it, and then I'm going to make it seem like I'm putting the first physical copy of my album in your hands.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Now, don't show the back because it's a mock-up. Okay. And then I want you to also do me a— you would bless my life because I'm independent, so all this shit matters, okay? Shay-Shay do numbers. We do crazy numbers. Shay-Shay do numbers. We do crazy numbers. Shay-Shay do numbers.
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Starting point is 00:56:14 do me a favor, man. Grab the album, pull it out, and then give me a beautiful reaction because, you know, that's the double vinyl. I've never seen that before. It's beautiful. So I'm releasing this double vinyl produced by David Foster.
Starting point is 00:56:27 The David Foster? The fucking David Foster, yeah. So David Foster is 20 songs total. It's about love, life, divorce, and all the above. So if we can, if we're tight for time, I just want to wrap this all up. Yeah. Talking about the most important album I've ever done in my life,
Starting point is 00:56:46 especially pivoting off of the marital conversation we just had. So we good? Anybody want to walk out? Y'all okay? Okay. All right. So we're going to go edit.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Mr. Editor, we're going to pick up from a 3-2-1 so I can close out my marital thought and the whole Cinderella thing. I want to close that out. And then I want to pivot into the beautiful pain comedy, if you don't mind. No problem. Especially if they want to wrap me up. I'm going to wrap this up and sell. That's all you do it. Oh, we're going to, we're going to use these numbers. You know what I'm talking about? Okay, so truth is nobody should be alone. Okay. And I think what is so confusing about this concept,
Starting point is 00:57:36 and oh, God, oh, man, oh, this is going to be so bad. Oh, God, this is so bad, but it's true. You wasn't healed before you got married. You wasn't healed before your boyfriend, before your girlfriend. You wasn't healed before you got engaged. You're not healed even if you've been married for 20 years. How many times has your wife wiped your tears? Married men, how many times has your wife
Starting point is 00:58:19 wiped your tears when you start talking about your childhood traumas? Wiped your tears when you start talking about your childhood traumas Why are you married if you're not supposed to be married until you're healed Do yourself a favor and do some therapy and understand that it's not in everybody's cards to be alone Don't independence your way into loneliness. And because you're alone doesn't mean you're lonely. Right. Because people do really well about themselves.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I love being alone. I love spending time alone. When it comes to me having some in my life, I understand specifically the value and companionship. That man is at your job flirting with you every day, why you won't let him take you to lunch and dinner? That don't mean you got to give him some pussy. You're an adult. You know how to say no?
Starting point is 00:59:16 A man can be in hot pursuit of you for six months before you finally have sex with him because that's what adults do. We're adults. So I, as a man who had been out dirt diggler living my best life, like most men. OK. We are not ready to get married. Not all that. I don't want to generalize. Women are always ready to get married and been ready to get married since Cinderella. Us as men are not ready to get married. And nothing about the concept of us getting married is introduced to any of us.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Because that's not our narrative. That's not our dialogue. That's not the sensitivities in and around the locker room talk, the R&B talk, the hip-hop talk. It's knock them down every single day. Knock them down. Knock them down. Red Run, Jay-Z, they all normalized hip hop marriage. Introduced it, Fat Joe, keep going. There's a few, DJ Khaled, they've all normalized the energy
Starting point is 01:00:20 in and around being a hip hop rapper and literally being about family and marriage. I want to say I could be wrong, but Rev Run was one of the first. Yes. OK. Long before we fell in love with Bill Cosby. I'm not talking about what he's accused of or what he dealt with or dealing with. Rev Run slapped that collar on and he said to the whole world this is what real love looks like
Starting point is 01:00:45 not the records I sold not the hip-hop and not the arenas I'm selling out and not how much I mean to you rappers true wealth is this right here Jay-z understands that Beyonce understands that That's what I am proud to say. I attempted and I went all out. So everything about my marriage ending, it was devastating for me because like most men, we go above and beyond to keep living our best life and partially committing to everything and everybody. We're giving it all away. And everything about the love and the props that we get from giving it all away is us being men. Like, you can't be mad at me
Starting point is 01:01:37 that me and all my niggas normalized getting this pussy. You can't be mad at me that we up in here giving each other high fives and talking about, you know, and the thing is, sometimes we can get jealous right yeah but for the most part if me and you knock down the same cheerleader and we playing on the same team nigga we gonna talk about it nigga this sheet yeah cheerleaders was off limits to us we couldn't mess with the cheerleaders shannon if you don't get the fuck out of here. I'm just saying we could. Hold on. We are past the, what is the Statue of Limitation? Nigga, you better bring that
Starting point is 01:02:11 motherfucking glass over and stop playing with me. Cheerleaders is off. Who the fuck is he talking to? I tell you, boy. I tell you. Politically correct was a person in a great t-shirt. God damn. We are past the statute of limitations. No one is hiring you to play on any
Starting point is 01:02:28 teams, nigga. You gonna be alright. I know you and Ocho did knock down a couple of cheerleaders. I'm way older than Ocho. Ocho about to get married, so you know. I'm talking about Ocho passed. I'm not talking about his current, alright? I'm talking about it ain't no way in hell, nigga. We out here
Starting point is 01:02:43 knocking down them cheerleaders. You looking at them leg muscles every day? What the fuck you talking about his current all right i'm talking about it ain't no way in hell we out here not knocking down them cheerleaders you looking at them leg muscles every day what the fuck you talking about anyway that the the the the thing is us as men they say men are for men women for all this so different you know listen man truth be told the reason why, hear me, thank you, Jesus. The reason why, in my opinion, this is my truth. The reason why everything about us getting married is always so much harder if it comes to an end. It's because most of us as men, we are wired to never do that. They've been ready to do it since they was two, bruh. We are wired to never commit that that's uncomfortable you are with a man you are married to a man right now who might not be thinking about you when he have sex with you.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Damn. Because we are wired to be thinking about all of them. What if she ain't thinking about him? What happened? What if she ain't thinking about him? I'm sure she ain't. Especially if the nigga wear size 3. Especially if the nigga wear size 3.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Tyrese, you got to slide. You slumped down to the chair on that one. No, no, no no no listen man listen man i'm not gonna put this all on the man i'm just letting you know that we are wired very very differently my brother we're very different and so me getting married i had to push through a lot as a man, like most men. We are married and we are literally in disbelief that we made that decision. Unless you grew up in a house where you're around somebody like me, like Rev Run, where they've normalized the talk, the energy, the dialogue and the vibrations of this is what you want to be. And this is what you ultimately want to get to.
Starting point is 01:04:44 That is not normal, my brother brother most of us are single most of us grew up in single household with single mothers and single single single so where does commitment companionship engagement and marriage come in single mother single to single that singular solo me, my, and then you are spreading yourself out to everything and everybody. So at the end of the day, yes, beautiful pain. Let me get the album. Let me see the album. Oh.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Show them the cover. What if I told you this is the first physical copy? That's unbelievable that it's on Club Shea Shea. I got the first physical copy. It's the first copy. Let me see it. Let me hold it. Let me do it.
Starting point is 01:05:34 I just gave you my heart, okay? That's my heart on that album. Look at this. Can y'all see this? Nah, but this is what makes it special. Look at this. Oh. Mm. Mm. you see that cover you see that cover
Starting point is 01:05:52 I see a flower I see a heart that's shattered beautifully broken in a thousand pieces that's what happens what's on this album that's what happens when a man finally says yes That's what happens when a man finally says yes. This is what happens when a woman finally says yes.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Says yes to marriage, says yes to commitment, says yes to taking the full journey, says yes to kids. That album has 20 songs on it. All of the vulnerabilities. All of the things that most men are very uncomfortable with singing about, talking about. See, they attack us for not speaking and not communicating. And then when you do talk, you get attacked for that too. I put it all on that album. We got songs on that album where I'm posing questions like,
Starting point is 01:06:39 I know you filed for divorce. I know I'm still over here fucked up about it because the healing journey is never ending. If Bishop T.D. Jakes. So knows Jesus Christ, he should be in heaven by now. We are all still in the process of figuring it out. figuring it out. You can quote 500 scriptures from the Bible, but if you know Jesus better than Jesus, then you might as well go on home. It is a never ending journey to heal. It is a never ending journey to keep pushing through the stuff and hoping that you can find a smile at the end of that rainbow. That is the most important thing I've ever done.
Starting point is 01:07:25 And I can tell you right now, I finished it. It's coming out on Friday, August 30th. I'm dropping this album on the same day that I'm dropping 1992, the movie. And I have never done, this is me, I've never done anything more important in my life. Like, I can't believe it's mine. Can't believe these are my feelings,
Starting point is 01:07:51 my sentiments, my vulnerabilities. If you ask me, where's my red beanie at? Can somebody get my red beanie? Because I got to go ahead and remind y'all. So first of all, if y'all are asking why I got on a red beanie black and gold my fucker zoom in on that right there you know i'm talking about the swag is up you know black folks got to coordinate anyway so i was saying that if you ask me my brother
Starting point is 01:08:19 i've been living in the year 1968 for the last three years, working on that right there. Okay? Now, this might sound strange, but I'm going to tell you how real this is for me. I'm a very specific and visual person. The clubs that I've been to have been crazy. You want to know who's been in my section? Yo.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Marvin Gaye. Man, he said some shit last night that was so crap we was at it we was at the table dying laugh Marvin funny as a motherfucker man he crazy uh Donny Hathaway pulled up last night uh man Billie Holiday Frankie Beverly and Maze Luther was there Michael Jackson was there still can't believe they let that little nigga in the club. He still looks like a kid. Did you see the pivot? That's where I've been in my mind.
Starting point is 01:09:18 I don't even know who the fuck Lil Tay Tay is. I don't know nothing about no YouTube. I don't know nothing about iTunes. I don't know nothing about nothing. I have been in the world of beautiful pain, tapping into songs in the key of life and all of the icons and legends that my mama, rest in peace, R&B soul music in my house was the soundtrack to her alcoholism. Yeah. I love R&B soul music.
Starting point is 01:09:53 But all these R&B niggas from that era had my mama drunk as a motherfucker. I don't even think my mama would have drunk as much as she drunk on her own if she had just sat there and said, let me just have a couple. But you put that thing on and that background, that Marvin Gaye, that Teddy Pendergrass, that Luther, the OJs, Donny Hathaway. The soundtrack of your addiction. That's where my brain was at. Of your addiction. That's where my brain was at. And that's why beautiful pain. Produced by my brother, Brandon Bam Hodge, an executive produced by someone who came out of retirement to do this.
Starting point is 01:10:42 David Foster. Wow. Let me give you a couple of names that's going to put the kids to sleep. Can we put the kids to sleep real quick? Sure. Elder Barge. Wow. Lenny Kravitz. Kenny G. Oh, they definitely going to go to sleep now. Kenny G is on the album. Tamar Braxton.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Every song on this album is live. Live strings. Now, here's the thing. I got songs on this album that's almost eight minutes long. Did them niggas tell Luther Vandross to send in a radio edit? You know Luther Vandross has songs that had like four minute intro before the verse start. I wanna tell you baby the chances I've been going through missing you, missing you
Starting point is 01:11:41 I ran out of breath because of your nose, nigga. Until you come back to me, I don't. Shit. I don't. Shit. I'm just playing. Anyway. Anyway. Listen, man.
Starting point is 01:12:02 There was no such thing. Here's all the old folks, okay? okay i'm 45 i'm talking to grown folks little tay tay little ray ray little jay jay all the niggas out here upload tiktok videos paint your fingernails black and doing turquoise hair and announcing that you're homosexual trying to fit into the community because it's gonna make you. I got it. If you live in a particular lifestyle, I literally don't have a racist bone. I don't discriminate. I just say do what makes you happy. But I'm going to tell y'all for us folks that grew up on true R&B soul music, I got some bad news for y'all. There was never Luther Vandross featuring Curtis Blow
Starting point is 01:12:45 There was never Marvin Gaye featuring the Sugar Hill Gang I've been really trying, baby Trying to hold back in feelings for so long Trying to hold back in feelings for so long. Put that pussy on the ground because it's so strong. It did not happen. It didn't happen. It just did not happen. There was a specific R&B soul that had
Starting point is 01:13:24 nothing to do with coexisting with hip hop. Y'all may not know that. You may not know that. Even James Brown. Mm-hmm. Godfather. You ever heard of James Brown, boys and girls? Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Even James Brown, legend. First black man ever on his own private plane. Correct. The most sampled R&B soul godfather in the history of hip hop. Never had one rapper on his goddamn song. Hip hop has sampled an R&B soul godfather, and yet the godfather himself never said yes to hip-hop. R&B is insecure right now.
Starting point is 01:14:14 They won't even play it on the radio unless it features a rap. Until now. You're going to have to pull them instruments out. That dusty-ass road keyboard in your garage with the organ, them instruments is coming out. It's all live instrumentation on here. God willing, if we come home with 10 Grammys, it's going to be niggas out here asking some hard questions.
Starting point is 01:14:39 They out here, they're up here making beats on iPhones, on an airplane using Wi-Fi. And by the time they land, it's on the side cloud and it goes viral and they up here tick tocking to it. You can't tell anybody to sing real love songs no more. No one wants to beg. No one wants to plead. No one wants to express love and sentiment about nothing. Everybody is selling lonely. Fuck you. I don't need you.
Starting point is 01:15:07 To the left, to the left. Pack your shit. Get out. Well, that's not what that is. Now, the divorce for transparency motivated me to get in the studio to make that. But it's called beautiful pain. And I'm speaking of the pain. But more importantly, I'm talking about the beauty that I discovered in my pain. Wow. And I've mainly are you married yet, Shannon?
Starting point is 01:15:35 No. OK. I have mainly played this album for married couples. Why? I'm glad you asked. I've mainly played this album for married couples. Because my love for the Lord Jesus Christ would never, ever allow for me to release an album to contribute to the divorce rate. to the divorce rate. Imagine me taking my pains, my traumas, and my strife from this unexpected divorce, and then I release a whole album going at divorces,
Starting point is 01:16:14 going at the sanctuary of marriage, going at love. Now, my ex is going to get this work, Nick. Ah! My ex is going to get this work. There's songs like get this work there's songs like love transaction I say 20,000 isn't child support we both know just who that money for that might make you feel away 20,000 ain't shit compared to what other niggas get hit with it's people I have with six seven kids ask them what that number is per month. This shit real.
Starting point is 01:16:45 However. Don't confuse my truth with the truth. That's one and two and two is why are you making me feel bad about me singing these songs and these lyrics when that's actually something I feel, felt, and experienced. All of a sudden, when a man released a song talking about his marriage falling apart or whatever specifics and details that come along with it, I'm misogynistic and I'm being condescending towards women. You ain't say that shit to Mary J. Blige. Ain't say that shit to Jasmine Sullivan when she said, I'm going to bust the windows out your car. You had your ass in the arena looking for a window to bust out a car. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Okay. So at the end of the day, beautiful pain can be ordered online exclusively at Tyrese.tv. I'm independent, Shannon. Don't edit that out. Tyrese.tv is the only place in the world you can buy Beautiful Pain. It's a double vinyl. If you skip a song, I quit.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Wow. Literally, when you put the needle on the vinyl, the album starts with the with the sound of vinyl the little crackling sound That's how the album starts and you just let it play Put your kids to sleep Get their homework done. Tell them niggas to turn off the video game and get ready for school Because mama and daddy about to make your brother and sister Wow, you're gonna get your ass dropped off at the carpool lane, and this album is going to bring love
Starting point is 01:18:28 back into your mommy and daddy's marriage that may have been fading away. It's going to have us sitting across from the dinner table flirting again, making love again. Not fucking. Fucking is cool. Twerking and fucking.
Starting point is 01:18:40 We got enough of that. We just seen the whole BET Awards with niggas twerking. I'm sitting there on the front row like God damn. I'm 45 years old. I'm sitting next to some valuable booty meat. That's way too much booty meat on this goddamn stage.
Starting point is 01:18:54 They've normalized the ratchet. Right. And they want us to think it's okay to be that. No disrespect to none of the artists. This is different. This is artists. This is different. This is intimate. This is vulnerable.
Starting point is 01:19:11 It's getting back to being grown. And I don't want no youngsters in my audience. How old are you, Shannon? If you don't mind me asking. 56. You 56? I'm 45. You know how uncomfortable it would be for me at 45 years old to see a 16-year-old in my audience with turquoise hair uploading a TikTok video to my damn music? would be for me at 45 years old to see a 16 year old in my audience with turquoise hair uploading
Starting point is 01:19:25 a tiktok video to my damn music and i'm not gonna kick him out because he's 16 but this ain't for you take your ass to bed go get your homework done turn your video game off get off of instagram and snapchat go to sleep because i'm dropping you off in the carpool lane tomorrow and i'm going home and me and your mama are going to keep dancing in the living room and we're going to figure out a way to fall in love over and over again because she has lost sight
Starting point is 01:19:52 of how important our marriage is since we didn't have four kids. This is going to bring them back together. Beautiful Pain drops August 30th along with its movie 1992, Tyrese Gibson. Cheers. Cheers. I've been grinding all my life. Sacrifice. Hustle paid the price. Want a slice. Got the bowl of dice.
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