Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 154: Home Improvements, Backup Plans, and Making Change

Episode Date: April 15, 2021

Starting off with an actual Coffee Convo and a small guest, Lindsie and Kail have a lot to talk about this week, Both have some home building/moving updates. Kail has a question about driveways, and Lindsie might finally be making moves. And it's great when your kid is super into one activity, but does anyone else get nervous when it's JUST one? Kail wants to know if it's a good idea to introduce new activities to kids as a safety net. And a new Netflix documentary had Lindsie and Kail thinking about the environment, conservation, and what they can do to help make change.  This episode was sponsored by: Embr, Upstart, Function of Beauty, & BetterHelp Have a question you want answered? Want to give Kail and Lindsie a call? Leave them a message at ?(609)-316-0060?. Music by Nathaniel Wyvern. Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License.

Hello, welcome to Coffee Combo's podcast, Lindsay. Good morning. I feel like I am spry is a spring chicken this morning. Sprye, what does that mean? You know, like, I don't really know how to describe it actually, but Sprye, our listeners can tell us in the comments.

Okay. Okay. Sprye, my grandmother used to say it. So it's just something that I say. Sprye, well, I, I'll look it up. You do that. You do that, hun. How was your weekend? Well, I got back from the beach on Thursday night. I don't know if I shared on the last episode of the podcast, but we had to return from the beach a little bit early.

We had planned to stay for the entire week, but then there was a death in the family and had to attend a funeral on Friday morning. And that was all day Friday. And then I just had errands and stuff to run whenever I got home. And I feel like when you get back, okay, I need to know how many people unload their car immediately, unpack their suit

cases and start washing laundry. And how many of you are people who leave your stuff in your car and then don't unpack it for a couple of days? I don't leave my stuff in my car. I bring the suitcases in the house, but a couple of days, Lindy, I leave my stuff in my suitcase for like three months and I'll live out of it from there. Oh, I got it.

I knew you were going to say that. And I was like, what? Like, who, who does that? I went to Iceland in February. Um, and I believe that my stuff was in my suitcase for a total of like six months and I just like picked stuff out, washed it, put it, like I would just like throw it in the suitcase. Like, I don't know.

I don't know. Kale, that's honestly kind of concerning. Um, so wait, the suitcase, can you describe like the area that the suitcase was like you would do laundry and throw it all back on there? Yes, exactly. As if you were going somewhere. And like if I would try stuff on, and it actually, it didn't move.

I know exactly when I, when I put it, put the stuff away, um, or was done with it was when we went to Philly in October. So from February to October, because you needed the suitcase because I needed the suitcase. And so my, in both of my houses, my Middletown house and my Smyrna house, the, uh, closets are in the, like the master closets are through the bathroom. So essentially you don't have to bring stuff from the

closet into the bedroom. It's just like in the master bathroom. So I conveniently left the suitcase in up against the wall that was in the bathroom, but in like next to the closet. So I would like try stuff on. I would take stuff out. I'd put like clean laundry on top of it. Like, so it was just like right there.

Okay. So also I have kind of an embarrassing thing that I did. Um, and it's kind of like not, it really makes me feel like I might be a psychopath because it's not really like who I am. But you know, whenever we do podcast trips in Atlanta, I have so much crap to bring. I just put a bunch of stuff like in a laundry basket and like take it as if I'm moving in to this place.

Yeah, I know. It's so funny. It's so fucking funny, but so smart. And so after not our last podcast trip to Atlanta, so like the podcast trip before that, which was like forever ago, I had stuff in a laundry basket, in my garage for like an entire year that I never moved. So then it made me think how often do we actually use our

things because I had a lot of stuff in there. Like, or do we just adapt to using other things? I think that we, I don't know, don't, I'm the wrong fucking person to ask. Kale. Oh my gosh, Lux is coming in the office because I, so I brought him to the office today because he, you know, as we all know is attached to my hip and he's walking in right now. Tell him to say hi.

Do you want to say hi? Come say hi on the microphone. It's coffee combos. Did you hear that or no? What did he say? You gotta say hi coffee combos. Hi. Hi.

Oh my god. He's being so shy. He's, I have a dinosaur on my shelf and he's coming to get it and he's going to take it out to the other room. Why, why does he sound like a gremlin? You have to go out on the table out there. I can't have you in here. Why can't he be in there?

Take the dinosaur. Because he's loud. He's laughing because he knows it. Go kill. Leave that child alone. I put spider-man on out there for him because that's what he wanted and he told me he was going to be very good and very quiet and he, so we, a couple of weeks ago, I wasn't going to talk about it,

but I feel like we're out of the woods now. So a couple of weeks ago, we were exposed to COVID. So we had to quarantine for some time. And so he's, he's able to go back to school this week and, but not just yet. So he is attached with you. Yes. Yes. Wait, speaking of that, can we, during that time also, I want everyone to know

that Kale lost another toenail. Oh my God. And we didn't talk about it. Why does this always happen to me and why is it always a freaking toenail? So I, my toenail got caught on something and literally the whole top of it ripped off and it was bleeding. And I just literally was crying and I was like, I don't want an ugly toenail. And I just was like, this is sandal season.

Like I just bought new Birkenstocks and now my toenail is half. Bye. Bye. You just bought new Birkenstocks. I did. Oh my God. Oh my God, but why is it always when it gets summertime that you lose toenails? I don't know.

They must be weak. They're so weak. Oh, while we're also just talk like rambling about stuff. Where did you go and get burnt bagel? So I'm eating a bagel right now, y'all. And I had to drop off my truck at the shop because it had, I don't know if anyone else's suburban has had a safety belt recall, which I'm assuming is like the seat belt system. So I had to drop it off and Natalie brought me from the dealership to my office and right

next to my office is Duncan. So I got a bagel with cream cheese, add bacon. Add bacon. Yeah. On a bagel. I've never heard of this. And I found a Duncan coffee that I love. So this is a coffee combo.

The Charlie is so good. The Charlie explain. Who is she? The Charlie is a TikToker. Like she has like 150,000, 150 million followers on TikTok and she has her own drink at Duncan. And it's so good. And it's called the Charlie. And it's called the Charlie.

It's named after her and she has a Charlie remix too. And then she also has Duncan merch. And I'm just like, how do these people like, what do I have to do to get my own coffee drink? Like what do I, what do we need to do as coffee combos host to have a drink at Duncan or Starbucks or whatever? Like you're an avid Duncan drinker and I drinks, I typically drink Starbucks, but like I would, I drink both, you know? Well, I pretty much, unless I am filming with teen mom too, because they for whatever reason

really like Starbucks and not Duncan, then I will drink Starbucks because it's like, that's my choice. But I'm always Duncan and I feel like I am a habitual Duncan drinker and a habitual Chick-fil-A eater and neither of them have contacted me. But literally. Like it's kind of rude at this point, but I need to know what the Charlie is. How do I get her? I don't know what's actually in it.

My friend just told me about it and I was like, fuck it, I'll try it. And I actually liked it. And the only thing I will say is that I get upset when the very first one that I ever had was a medium and you know, half of it is ice. So when I was done with it, I was like, wow, like I should have got a large. So I got a large the next time, but the large doesn't taste the same as the medium. And I don't know why they're like not putting the same. You know what I mean?

Like, I guess for a large, you would like not double it, but like almost double whatever you put in it and it just doesn't taste the same. So I've been disappointed in the largest. I know that there's cold foam on it. I want to say it's a cold brew with cold foam and then it has like, I'm not a cinnamon person. I don't like cinnamon, but there's cinnamon in it and it's so good. So I don't like any of those things. So the Charlie's out for me.

But what do you like? What do you like? Um, I like a, do you want me to give you my specific order? Yes. Because people ask me this on Instagram actually all the time. So here it goes. It is a medium, light ice caramel latte with almond milk, four pumps caramel, add caramel sauce. Can you write that down for me?

Yes, it's delicious. Type it out. It's so good and I just love it and I will never change drinks. So that's how good it is. This is the coffee combo of the day. There's the coffee combo of the day. I, I still feel like we should collab with someone or, or create our own coffee stuff. Seriously, but would people drink it?

Because when we did a poll on Instagram, it was so interesting to me that so many different people drink different type of roasts. So like light, medium, dark or whatever. And then it was basically, if I remember correctly, it was almost like a 50 50 split on if people make coffee at home or if they get it out. So it's kind of hard to determine if people would want it. Right. Yeah, that is hard.

I will say, but I do both, right? Like even when I have coffee at home, which I love my coffee at home, I still will get coffee out. So maybe it would be one of those situations. Maybe. So we can, we can do some research into that. All right guys, we're going to take a quick break to chat about one of our partners, Emberwave.

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Anyhow, is anything else going on in your life? Anything exciting, fun? The driveway started to go in on my property, which I posted on my Instagram and I was super pumped about that. I don't know if you know this because you've built a house before. The cost difference in a gravel driveway versus an asphalt driveway is night and day. I don't really feel like paying $50,000 for a driveway to be concrete. Asphalt?

Yeah, or any type of pavement. I'm not going to take that out of my budget. Do it just at a later time. You're going to do it at a later time. Yes, because they gave me an estimate for it and I was like, I'm not because my driveway is really long because my property is behind another property, which I like it like this. But when they told me the cost difference between gravel and asphalt,

I was like, I don't know why anyone would asphalt a driveway this long. And I'm sure next year I would do it, but right now I want to get all the things that I want to get in my house and then I don't care about driving on gravel. Like that's what I have a suburban for. You know what I mean? Like I don't care about that. I cannot with you. Oh my God.

It was like 50 grand. Because that's what I have a suburban for. Yeah, you should see the outside of my truck right now. It's literally so muddy, the rain that we've gotten. But other than that, I don't have anything super fun. I mean, Lincoln started football again, so he's in two flag leagues. And that's really exciting. And Luck started soccer on Saturday, which he loved.

Oh, did you hear him? You want to talk about it? I said I was sitting on a ball. He was sitting on a ball and he was listening to the coach. And I was kicking a ball. He was kicking the ball. I was kicking the ball. Oh, and did you score a goal?

Yeah. Wow. Go, Lucks. So he's, so he really loved that. And so other than that, I don't have a whole lot going on. What do you have going on? What exciting stuff is going on? Wait, I have two comments that he said on the ball again.

Yeah, sorry. Again and again and again. I love it. We talk about the driveway for a second because I know when Will's parents built like their forever home, I know theirs was gravel for a long time and they didn't put, they didn't concrete it for a long time. And then my mom's parents was the same thing. So that must be pretty common occurrence that when you build a custom build like that,

that people just like do that last. I, it's not one of those things where it's like, I don't know. I just, I can't justify the, I don't care how much money it is. Like I just can't justify the price right now when I don't feel like it's like a necessity. I would rather have something else in the house or in the backyard. You know what I mean for that cost? I agree. We're like, my aunt built a house where we're back where we're from and she still hasn't.

I mean, they built it, I don't know, probably almost 10 years ago at this point. And she still hasn't asked fault today and she doesn't care. Like she doesn't care. They even just put at the top of the driveway, a whole basketball court for my little cousin. He plays basketball and they put like a full basketball court. And just to me, it's like, I would rather do something like that for the kids in the backyard or for Lincoln's football or something, then to spend that money on a driveway. That's just my opinion.

I agree. And then on the point of flag football, Jackson said that he is going to play flag football in the fall. Oh, he's been practicing for it. He would love that. I think he would love flag football. It's so fun to watch. Like Lincoln had such a close game yesterday and it was Lincoln's tackle coach from last year

was, is the coach for the team that they played against yesterday. And it was such a good game. And you just, I'm trying to convince him to play baseball actually, because Lincoln's so good at baseball that I'm like, why won't you play? Flaz is a little hard, but yeah, he wants to play and has wanted to play really for like probably the last six to eight months, but it's hard. And you'll probably be able to relate to this in tons of parents that are listening. That when your child's kind of committed and invested in one sport, you don't want them

to be spread too thin with like other things. So if he plays flag football, that means he's going to be taking the fall season off of baseball. And so that's a little scary for me, but he's also playing all stars all summer. So maybe it'll just like work itself out. He'll get like a little bit of a break. I just, for me, Lincoln is not, he needs a sport all every season. Like he needs that. And the football training that we do is all year, but I would really like to see him play

a second sport in the off season just because I think football is hard. I think, I do think Lincoln is good. And I think that he could play through, you know, middle school and high school, but I definitely, I just worry with football that the kids are going to be bigger than him. And just, I don't know. I just worry about the football thing sometimes because I'm like, Lincoln's good right now, but I don't know what that looks like moving forward. Like there's, I just, I don't want him to get discouraged.

And if he finds a second sport that he can play that he's also good at, he won't be as discouraged. I just, I just worry about him not having a backup plan, I guess. Like I want to support him in football for as long as he plays. Don't get me wrong. I just want him to have a second sport so that if he agreed, yes, do you get what I'm saying? Do you get what I'm saying? Just because the talent that I see Lindsay here in Delaware, I don't know about any other state because I didn't have my kids in Pennsylvania for very long. The talent that I see at such a young age here in Delaware and the things that the parents will do

to, for their kids talent, I'm like blown away. And I just don't want Lincoln to be second best and discouraged. Do you know what I mean? I want him to find a second sport that he can also be good at. And also he may excel, like whether it's track or baseball or even soccer, like Lincoln's one of those kids that he can pick up any sport and he can figure it out and be good at it. So I want him to find a second one that's an option for him. Yes, because I just worry that with the talent that I see in the kids here in Delaware,

that Lincoln could potentially be second best. And I, and I don't want him to be, and I told him that I said, you got to do two sports. You got to pick something in an offseason. He only wants to do football. That's all he wants to do. I love how committed he is. I'm sure that that makes you feel really good that you raised a child that can be that committed

to something. The only thing that scares me about football, and I've said this for years, even before I had a child, I said, I would never have a child that I let play tackle football because of all of the studies that have been done on CTE. I think that's what it's called. I just, I don't know. I think that's so scary. I don't know how many parents that are listening to this that have kids that play football and how you deal with it.

And just, that would give me the worst anxiety ever. Like I couldn't, I wouldn't be able to watch because I would have such bad anxiety. No flag football. I think it's like fun, carefree. It's just a whole different scenario, but the tackle would be very scary for me. It, I mean, at first it was definitely scary, but, and, and, and the very first season that Lincoln played tackle was last year. So it was, it was definitely one of the things that I was like, okay, he doesn't really know what he's doing and he has to get used to all this weight on him

because it's the helmet, the pads, everything. And so that's the part that I was worrying about, right? Like he's so fast and he's so good at flag, but you put weight on him and you put him in, in tackle and he's not the best one on the team anymore. You know what I mean? So it's hard for that. But then also to get hit is like these kids are bigger. They're the same age, but they're bigger than him.

So it's, it is scary. I, I was going to say something to your point about football. And I know I can't remember. Was it about CT? So one of Lincoln's coaches this year, he played for the Titans, I think it was. And he, he is not putting his son in tackle until after, I think, I want to say, hobby, my son is getting what lux go to the bathroom then it's called bring your kid to work day. It's not bring and kill hates bringing her kids to work day. I got the office so that my kids wouldn't come with me.

No, but he won't put his son in tackle until after 10 years old because of the tackles and things like that. And he and just the injury, the possibility of injuries and stuff like that. And so that was a conversation that, um, Javi and I were having in the beginning. Oh my Lindsey, I'm sorry. Hold on. Oh my God, Lux. Are you laughing Lindsey? Yes, because it's so funny.

You said would I, why, like, why? If this was me, I would be so pissed because it's you. I'm not pissed at all. I think it's so funny and it's not funny. And you're mad because he's going poop. Like, are you going to have to wipe him next? That's what I'm, that's why I'm like, okay, are we going to podcast or not?

And when he told me he wanted to come to the office, he said he was going to be on his best behavior. He's going to be very quiet. I put on spider man out in the like common area. I thought that he was going to listen, but evidently not. We've talked about kids before being natural born liars. And so, evidently, he's a liar. Evidently, all of our children are liars.

So anyway, well, I can give you a little bit of an update. A couple of years, he needs me to wipe him. Okay, go wipe. All right, you guys, we're going to take a quick break to chat about one of our partners, Function of Beauty. I know that I've talked about them many of times before, but I wanted to ask you guys, which one is your favorite scent? Mango, rose, pear, or eucalyptus?

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Is his butt clean? Yes. Okay. There was a neighborhood in my area that I found out about before it ever even started development. And this was probably like two and a half years ago.

And it was going to be a gated neighborhood. And at that time, there was like a weird thing that was going on that I had to file a police report. I had a stalker from the state of North Carolina

and I would go out of town and my neighbors saw like the car sitting in front of my house. It was like a very strange scenario. So I was looking for something that was gated and there's nothing in my area that is. So I was super excited about it. Well then

it kind of, when they started developing it, it didn't they weren't developing homes. It's like one of those neighborhoods that has kind of like all things. So they have town homes and then they have single family homes and

then some like bigger homes like towards the back and they were developing it in different phases. And the first phase was like the homes that sit almost like what you would think of someone that was maybe

single or widowed or like somebody or retiree. You know like no very minimal yard. They stack side by side little homes and that wasn't what I was looking for. And so time just passed by and then

thought of other plans and now that life is moving and changing I actually went over there just on a whim yesterday. Jackson had all-star practice from like two to four yesterday and I was like well I'm going to go over there and look and see what they

have going on. And they have some precious houses over there and I walked some yesterday and looked at different floor plans. So I'm thinking I've prayed about it and I am thinking that that is

going to be the next move. So I'm re-excited again. Well I would be excited too. I love the, that's the video you sent me right? Yes. Yes, I personally love it. I said this on the podcast before like I would

have loved to find a community that already had a pool in the community. Yes. That's a huge for me. You don't have the responsibility of the pool yourself and the expense of the pool yourself. You could pay as part of the HOA if you have one for just that neighborhood's pool.

I love that and I just, we didn't have that here. Like they have them but they can't guarantee that the pool is going to go in the community and so that's a deal breaker for me. But the houses that you sent me in the video are so fucking cute but I'm like, yeah, do it.

Yeah, it's so cute and then one thing that I love that I don't know that listeners are going to love, I don't know if you guys remember back in quarantine when Kale would have the landscaper show up and we would not know if they were showing up and then

you would hear the leaf blower or whatever and chainsaws and whatnot. Well, in this community, you pay like a monthly fee and that covers your yard maintenance. So I don't really think you have control when they come in your yard.

So if this ends up working out come August, then you guys will possibly be hearing leaf blowers and stuff that I have no control over. So I apologize in advance but I'm super excited

and I just think like little projects to take on are so fun. To be able, I went actually and looked at your wallpapers and stuff to see what ones I wanted to use in there already. Oh!

Do you know what one you want to use? I really, really think that in one of the rooms, I want to put that leaf wallpaper. Okay, I just put that in the office and I love the way it looks. I love. Yes, and I have I just actually the cloud one

got delivered today so I'll put that in my bookcase. I'm really curious to see for the wallpaper like how people use it because I feel like you can use wallpaper for so many things. I've seen people use it as like in picture frames instead of having that like the background

is like white or black, they'll use wallpaper and then put the picture over it. Oh, that's really cute. That's a really cute idea. Well, I love the fact that with the wallpaper that you did that it's like what is it called? The peel and stick. Yes. It makes it

I don't know. I just think that that's so much better than like old fashioned wallpaper. I yeah, I love it and it's actually really durable. The paper is really thick and you're able to like if you make a mistake you can unpeel and re-stick it and I've shown videos on that and it

it doesn't damage the paint that I've experienced so I'm super pumped about it. Well, because I'm not super handy you guys won't be seeing videos of me doing it on my own but I will be having it installed and then I'm

so excited too because all things that I've been wanting to do and I don't know if you felt like this before but you knew that you weren't going to stay in your other house and so there was like limited projects that you wanted to take on like it wasn't your long long time whatever but now I'm like

oh wow, I can get California closets or whatever closet place to like come in and custom my closets and hire the neat method to come in and like get an organizational system going I'm pretty organized but I think all of that stuff is like next level.

Oh, yeah. I actually just started following California closets because I didn't know about them and then I'm working with the interior designer for my house and she was like oh have you heard of this company and she showed it to me and I was like oh like need this I also want to know

listeners what is your style like what home accounts do you guys follow and are you into that kind of thing because I feel like people probably follow home building accounts or designer accounts

whatever just because they're interested in seeing stuff come together like I know I'm super interested in seeing that even though it might not be a project that I'm currently doing I like seeing before and after is that weird no I love it I personally love it I I thought

I never was like a farmhouse style but I know that some people love farmhouse but I I'm not a farmhouse person and I don't really know what my style is I feel like it's not glam either it's like very just like

tradition traditional maybe I don't know I don't know if it's traditional either I feel like you're definitely a unique style and like you have little pieces of all the styles that you implement like it's not like one thing even though it goes

together right and then also I wanted to know how many people have washer and dryers that stack or sit side by side because when looking at different home

builds it's weird like some have such small laundry rooms and I don't understand it like why are the laundry room so small that was one thing that I was struggling with because at both my houses

I had well no I'm lying the Middletown house had a decent size laundry room my my current house right now has an upstairs laundry room on the second floor where all the rooms are and it's just literally a closet with a washer and

dryer in it side by side oh wow yeah see I need a place where I can like walk in and if I want to fold a load of laundry in there that I can um so I don't know actually one of the most exciting things for me

is to be able to decorate a laundry room is that weird like I love a decorated a good decorated laundry room I think it's so cool and I also love is your master on main at your new house or my yes so my build has my master

on the main floor just because I feel like if I retire there I'm not going to want to go upstairs up and downstairs but the house I currently own now the I don't know if it was supposed to be an office but it had or like an in-law suite but it doesn't have a

closet but there's a full bathroom attached to it um I don't understand what they were doing there but it's a I made it into the guest room and it's on the main floor but it's not big enough to be a master master yeah well then on the floor plan that I'm looking at the master is on main

a secondary bedroom on main and then other bedrooms upstairs um and the laundry room is also on main I do not want enough another upstairs laundry room no did I tell the story on the podcast about me moving into my first house and being

about to pop pregnant standing in my kitchen and the what like literally water came seeping through my light fixture and almost started a fire no yes so the first when Will and I moved into

our first home it was tiny we were actually talking about this the other day it was like a little house like and I've talked about the square footage on that house before and people were like Lindsay that's not a little house but no like it really was a little house it had three bedrooms

and it probably sounds bigger than what it was but it was it was tiny like a shoebox and we moved in and we're so proud of that house like and I'm sure that you've had this feeling before of just feeling like wow we did like we were able

to get this on our own and like we didn't need help for this it was I was so proud and it was brand new I was I think seven and a half months pregnant and was standing in the kitchen the first night we had moved everything in

and was doing something in the kitchen and all of a sudden like a flood came through the ceiling into the light fixture and the I guess the um electrical started when it got wet it started

sparking everywhere and the freaking drain pan I had started a load of laundry and the freaking drain pan failed and literally bust through the ceiling that's terrifying that is so freaking terrifying

first time home buyers um didn't know what to do so literally just standing there have a rubber made tupperware thing like up underneath trying to catch the water I'm obviously like very emotional seven and a half months pregnant

it's all in crying don't know what to do I can just remember it closing they told us if there was like any type of emergency to like call whatever number so truly this was an emergency and yeah I'm just like wow so from that point forward in the house that I'm in now

we also have an upstairs laundry room and knock on wood haven't had any issues with it and all of our bedrooms are upstairs so it kind of makes sense for the laundry to be there because that's where all your laundry is coming from a master on main and I think I've talked about this before too

I feel like if you're doing most of your living on the main floor and your masters on the main then it's just easier like if you're in your kitchen or if you're in your living room and you want to do laundry I feel like you can be more on top of it with it being on the main floor right right

I have in my new build washer and dryer in my closet in my master on the main and also a washer and dryer upstairs on the second floor yeah but I think you need to because you have so many clothes

and boys and they're stinky that you definitely need that and your dogs yeah I agree well and the dogs have their own room on the other side of the house so they can they have a dog bath in there and it'll be nice to have like a door in and out over there and a dog bath right there too

I love it oh but I did want to ask people okay so the subject of dogs okay so my new house I don't want to allow any shoes in the house right but doesn't that defeat the whole purpose when I have dogs coming in and out of the house from outside

and how do you keep the floors clean if you're requiring the humans to take their shoes off but you have dogs coming in and out from outside and getting the floor and the carpet and all of that dirty like what do I how do you do you guys have like mats down where the dogs come in and out of so that they wipe their paws off

like how does that work and how do I keep it clean okay so obviously we only have like tiny Della so it's not even like you have dogs that are bigger than full grown humans right so it doesn't really my

opinion doesn't really matter but I'm going to tell you anyway when it rains outside nothing I hate more like nothing I hate literally so what do people do because I also like because I don't

and that's the thing is like I don't want to keep them in the dog room all day because that's the dog room like I want them to be able to come out to the main floor and stuff but what do I do with their paws like I love my dogs they're part of the family I don't want but I don't want to have the same problem at my new house

that I have now which is like the dogs come in and out and their paws are muddy or dirty or whatever and right now my house is pretty small for all of us and I just don't know how to keep it clean and I don't know like I just don't know what the solution is well a lot of people are probably going to say

use one of those wet swifters because I do know someone who has a lot of pets in their house that uses one of those and is constantly just like putting a new thing on and like running over the floors but that's not really a long-term solution to me I'm like right I need like a better plan

but some dogs like know how to wipe their paws off well my dogs don't they don't and they just bring all the mud in so everyone needs to let us know what the solution is or if there's no solution moving on

I'm so excited tonight I'm going to start watching the John Wayne Gacy documentary I think it's on Peacock what's the name of Peacock it's like a streaming thing like service

yes so do you have to pay for that also I think so I think it's another thing you pay for I literally pay for all tell me that you watch Seaspiracy because people were so upset that we didn't talk about it last week

and I feel like we can't go another week without talking about it no we can't go another week without talking about it yes I watched it everyone is literally talking about it all over the internet oh I posted it everywhere I posted it on my instagram

coffee combos my kids instagram I was blown away by it and so upset by it but I could not not share it so for those of you who don't know what Seaspiracy is which I would find it very hard to believe

that you don't yet obviously last year the documentary of the year was The Tiger King and now reports are saying that Seaspiracy is going to be that documentary for this year

and it was filmed by the co-creators of Cowspiracy which was that's what I thought I think that was made in 2014 and that was about the horrible truths of the meat factory

farming this time around they are covering fish farming ocean destruction modern slavery within the fish industry and it is on Netflix for those of you who need to know where to find it

so I think they said that this was the 2021 version of black fish and it's like I think the intention is to change the perception of the term ethical fishing and really just shedding

light on fish farming commercial fishing so one thing that I have to say I did not expect what they showed I thought that Seaspiracy

was going to be something about plastics in the ocean garbage in the ocean and while I was shocked at the stuff that they did say about that I was more concerned about the commercial fishing situation that's going on and I remember

distinctly because one of the things I always ate as a kid because it was cheap and my mom wasn't really around she always bought tuna but she taught me to make sure that I was buying dolphin safe that we were buying dolphin safe tuna and I always checked the can for dolphin safe tuna

and I didn't understand I didn't ask questions when I was a kid I eat tuna now I love tuna fish and I didn't think twice about it I did not anticipate the documentary to cover anything about fish farming or commercial fishing

I truly thought it was about garbage in the ocean I honestly thought that was what it was about too and so I was kind of taken have you ever gone to watch something and you're like oh I think I'm going to understand what this is and then you start watching it and it's like completely different than what you thought it was going to be

because that's what this was for me that's what happened so I also did not know I didn't see anything in the media on the maybe I did and I just didn't think twice about it which I don't see happening either people

started changing the straw situation and the plastic situation because a video went viral from a turtle having a plastic straw stuck up its nose I didn't know that was what was happening I just thought it wasn't good for the turtles

to eat or something they found that the animals in the ocean were eating plastic I didn't know that one was up its nose so that was shocking to me and people started quickly changing the way that they gave out straws and things like that

because of the sea turtle but nobody is talking about the commercial fishing situation and I don't know how do you slaughter whales and dolphins and you're overfishing and people are not understanding how important it is and one part of the documentary was saying that when whales come up to the surface for air

they release I don't remember what it was called phytoplankton or something that basically absorbs the carbon dioxide and brings it down to the bottom of the ocean or something like that and I was thinking like how do people not see

and then the sharks that are going back into the ocean with no fins like people truly don't understand how important our oceans are and what they do for humans on the planet and so I don't understand how China and Japan are then continuing to overfish and yeah I understand that there's money

to be made but you have to give the oceans a chance to re to bounce back before you can continue fishing yeah so actually it said this was a fact it said the experts claim that fishing takes 2.7 trillion fish

from ocean every year and at that rate marine biologist shared on the documentary that the oceans will be empty and soon as soon as 2048 yes and that I posted that

like I had said that in the comments when I posted about seaspiracy on my feed and it pissed me off because I understand that there are fishermen and there are family families who own fishing businesses correctly and they don't overfish and they don't do all that I understand that completely

and I'm not taking away from them but to say that this documentary was meant to provoke like emotional feelings on it to get people upset I can't agree with that I don't agree with that I do think that commercial fishing is a huge threat to humans

and I'm very very passionate about how I feel about this and I understand that documentaries are they're meant to get you to look at things in a certain way but I don't understand how you can see any other side of what was shown in the documentary I don't think it was like

what people would sometimes call like fear mongering or no I don't think so I think it was more informational yeah I think that there's a lot to be said I mean I don't nobody's I don't know like are people doing things about it or there were just kind of turning a blind eye

and hoping it goes away like what's going on well and then another thing also that I did I had no idea I mean there was so much information in this documentary but it claimed that there isn't any industry that is on the planet that has taken the lives

of that many mammals and partly because fish are farmed in such large numbers and high quantities so because the methods that fishermen use to catch the fish they wipe out much more than just that so

I know that it says that they have the nets that they you know I guess put across the seabed and it said that it is believed to destroy 3.9 billion acres of seabed every year

I don't understand like what do people not understand about how like if we don't do something about it we're not going to be able to survive as humans like I don't understand nobody is why nobody is making this a priority

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the plastic household items or whatever obviously the plastic waste kills the coral reefs and it I guess is a choking issue for marine life and obviously breathing issues for turtles if it's getting

in their nose but that is not the main issue which is insane I didn't I always wondered and I didn't know until this is going to sound so stupid or just like I'm clearly

I'm dumb I didn't understand like okay once the garbage gets to the ocean and obviously the animals eat it that's a huge problem but I never understood like if the animals don't eat it where does the trash go like how is it other than like washing up on shore

like what what happens to how does it disintegrate essentially like what happens to it and then they explain that it becomes microplastics like if it disintegrates in the ocean and then the fish they need to breathe through the water so then they're gonna essentially breathe in the microplastics

which then made sense to me like okay this is a huge problem but what is the alternative 150 billion tons of microplastic is what it said so what where do we put the trash

obviously as humans we need to consume less we need to work on recycling a lot of people are recycling things that are not supposed to be recycled which then stops the production of recycling but I also think that there are not a whole lot of laws on recycling nobody I don't know

correct me if I'm wrong how do people consume less of trash like consume less I guess not consume less trash that doesn't make sense it's more like it's more like

being responsible when it comes to disposing of what you're using and also being a responsible consumer as well like it kind of like starts with

even like your purchasing habits too right like it's insane and to be honest I'm not the best at it and because of this documentary and because of the information that I now have it's something that I'm going to work on with

Jackson because I think that we start with our children like teaching them how to dispose of trash properly and you know it is kind of sad that there's not a better solution to this I feel like

but there's nobody's making it a priority to be recycling right like how many schools are not really recycling I remember in high school they started doing recycling bins because of all the paper that was being used and cardboard and stuff like that and I remember one of the teachers saying

to me that they're not actually recycling it it ends up going in the trash which is just and that's upsetting because it's like the if we really did make these really small changes so much more in the long run could be done

but I don't think and I remember whenever I I have we have recycling at my house and Delaware has recycling come pick up every other week where I live but when I started recycling more because I didn't make it a priority at first

and I started recycling more and I had more recycling than I had trash it felt good to know but then at the end of the day it's like is it really getting recycled like where does it like what is really going on like where is it going once it leaves you I guess and then same for

trash like okay landfills and then it also ends up in the ocean but then if you burn it you can't burn it because of all the toxins and then also the carbon is it carbon monoxide carbon dioxide whatever fumes get

released whenever you burn things like you can't burn it either so what is the alternative there I don't know I don't know what the alternative is but one of the things that you were saying earlier is that about the sharks and dolphins

because it because they are essential for fertilizing the what is it called like phytoplankton or plankton whatever in the documentary it talked about how 50 million sharks are every year and they use the term bycatch like an accidental catch

and that it's largely for no reason so they slaughter dolphins for no reason because they're essentially using them as a scapegoat to the overfishing situation they want to blame the dolphins and the whales for

no fish but that's just not the case so I'm my friend Darcy had literally turned off the documentary when they showed the slaughtering of whales and then okay this is also like kind of like off topic a little bit

but also on topic I've wanted to take Jackson to SeaWorld for so long because it was a place that I enjoyed going as a kid but mainly because I didn't have any knowledge I was just a kid right like I was just seeing dolphins and they were cute

and seeing killer whales do a show and all this stuff but it's truly a place that I don't think that I would ever take my kid because it's just not something that I believe in no yeah once I learned I think I watched Blackfish once I watched that

I had already been to SeaWorld one time and it's so sad but is it the same for aquariums too like or is that a little bit different well I'm kind of like on this I'm an extremist in all areas of life right so now after watching

this I'm kind of like okay I don't want to ever take him to an aquarium I don't want to ever take him to the zoo again I don't want to ever take him to SeaWorld. SeaWorld was actually something that I wanted to take him to do over the summer and so it's just interesting that this documentary came out and now I'm like okay I I literally could

in good faith and because of my conscience I couldn't take him because no I couldn't and another thing that is also kind of scary and I've always kind of thought this with

like organic foods and like the push years ago to you know buy organic and to whatever and then you hear these reports that there's a lot of labels on things that are labeled organic but they're not

and whatnot and in that documentary it was talking about the tuna opting for like dolphin safe or sustainably caught labels on the fish and they were talking about how that like might not be

enough anymore because the fishing is so such a widespread problem that even the labels that state fish has been sustainably caught aren't true anymore so I mean at this point like what it kind of boils back to also like

toxins and products that we use and you know these labels that say okay well this is this is a safe product it's toxin free like how do we trust at this point anything we don't

we can't that's the hardest part is like how do we even support things if we don't know if that's where it's going you know what I mean yes yes and then did you see the part on the greenwashing

the what the green greenwashing it was I watched the whole thing it was talking about like how sustainable doesn't necessarily mean sustainable yes yes and I'm just like

all of these uncoverings just have made this one documentary made me think about so many different things in life like yeah honestly like open my eyes to really just like being more cautious

about purchasing habits of everything and and then if you can't trust the label then what do you freaking eat I guess I guess nothing I guess we grow our own shit like grow our own vegetables and I don't think we have a choice

and then did we touch on like the slavery part no we didn't talk about that at all okay go ahead the what okay so basically with the commercial fishing and I want to say the only two real places they talked about was

China and Japan right yeah they have in Thailand I think too yeah and then they were talking about the the Philippines Iraq war like during the slavery problem they were talking

about how basically they were talking about how all the statistics do the problem and that they were doing a comparison between the number of dead American soldiers from the five year Iraq war to the number of dead fish workers

over that same five years and it was just astound like astounding but yeah like both yeah well it was the when they blurred faces of fishermen that had been on boats that's concerning

like you're supposed to be fishing and you shouldn't have to hide your identity because you're a fisherman and then the one I forget I don't think they even said his real name said that he was terrified and watched the crew be thrown overboard because they didn't they were overworked

they were underpaid they had been on the boat for so long and they didn't want to do it anymore or they stuck up for themselves and they got thrown overboard could you fucking imagine yeah so that it was basically saying that working on fishing boats is a form of modern day slavery

and that the same criminal groups behind drug trafficking is the same with like the with human trafficking so I am just honestly blown away and obviously the documentary

is under fire because anytime something like this comes out critics will always say that there's a bias and that no there's no way to there's no other way to look at the situation I don't give a shit what they're saying because

I saw the comments on my post oh well this was just meant to do this this was no this is really happening I don't care what scale it's happening on it's fucking happening and I want to know why people are not making bigger changes like and I'm not saying like us I'm saying

even like the governments like why is nobody making this a priority but I just feel like we honestly live in a world that we don't really know what's going on like exactly money

that's all it's about and honestly it's really disheartening and makes you makes me want to be even more introverted than I already am which is kind of like a level of scary like I just want to

and I know that you've probably felt this way too just like take our children and get in a camper and drive around the world and like homeschool them and not be subjected to people and like maybe the less I know

the better because sometimes it feels like when you know all of this information you have such a desire to make change and to yeah it gives you anxiety because you know that there's not really much that you can do about it um

I don't know what we can do about it I would love to figure out how there are some like I know for ocean does like beach cleanups I know I've done shark dives with people in Hawaii that have you know really

done a huge part to do like education on the oceans and sharks and stuff but I don't know what more I can do as one person you know what I mean and I'll do whatever I can but it's so hard because the documentary even says like when you go on and you donate to all of these organizations that are supposed

to be helpful it's all tied back to the people who are doing the fucking damage you can't trust anything so at what point do you say okay no matter what I do nothing's going to help right right because there's

in every situation like this there's always like a financial incentive for someone we don't we might not know who that person is but like or multiple people um and then it doesn't help to that when a documentary

comes out like this and it's fact based and then you have marine biologist on twitter out there saying that you know at highlights uh shocking basically truths and important issues but sometimes it's misleading and exaggerates

and um you know saying that things are clearly staged and so on and so forth well to that point certain things might have been staged to get the footage for the documentary right but that doesn't

mean that it's the overall point point yes right so it's just it's just disheartening and then you also wonder like how many people that are coming out saying oh well stuff like this is untrue um are they being paid behind the table

to say this stuff like you know you honestly never know in any situation like what's going on right God makes me so mad it makes me so mad so wait people were mad that we didn't talk about it yes they were like we thought you were going to talk about it like I was

going on the group or whatever and they were thought we were going to talk about it but we sometimes we just get carried away with the other things and then we didn't get to it and we still haven't covered Menendez brothers and then there was White Boy Rick if you didn't get a chance to watch that um and then there was I wanted to talk about next week

um or we're gonna have to do a bonus episode somewhere um I wanted to talk about the show that I started watching on Hulu okay well I also have a show that I've been watching I think it's on Netflix Jenny and Georgia have you start have you watched it I did not no okay I've seen it I've seen it on the like top

and trending yeah it's I love it I think that you would like it a lot um so we have a lot of shows and stuff to catch up on on the podcast but obviously again we have an hour a week and we can't cover everything in depth so I don't want to like half

ass do something and only half ass cover it so um next week would do you want to do Menendez brothers or White Boy Rick yeah let's do Menendez brothers and then I haven't seen as much of a conversation about covering White Boy Rick

but I do think it would be interesting to talk about at some point um if people you know have time to watch it or you get a chance to watch it um and we can talk about other things um I are we gonna try to plan to get together in May yes okay so hopefully we can get together in May

um and if anything we could maybe do um like Instagram live if we don't get to something um but yeah I'm down to talk about whatever okay so next week we are going to talk about all of our regular bullshit

but then also the Menendez brothers um hopefully Kale's kids will all be fully out of quarantine and back in school so that she still um is living at that point and if you guys have not followed us on

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