Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - 5 Sisters Refund Fraud & My Lowry Legacy

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

CC367: On this month's bonus episode... Kail goes through her recent chicken egg worries, Lindsie gets pumped for McDonald's Beanie Baby items, and the story of five sisters getting arrest for refund fraud sparks a curiosity. Lindsie provides an unfortunate update on the status of her old house, and Kail ALSO talks about the latest in her house designing process. A question about the twins' last names has Kail asking why her name and legacy isn't as important as the men's.     Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsor!  Apartments: Visit Apartments.com, a place to find a placeDraftKings: New players can get $100 in Casino Credits with just a one dollar wager, and ALL players get a Blockbuster Bonus every week. Download the DraftKings Casino app and sign up with promo code COFFEEProgressive: Visit Progressive.com to learn more 

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels, Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family,

and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsey. Hello, Coffee Convos. What I just witnessed. I'm still in fucking Arizona and I needed to order breakfast. So I'm like, hold on, Lindsay, we cannot record yet. Let me just order this breakfast really quick. And honestly, for as bougie as this hotel is, I thought there would be, I digress. I'm not even going to go there.

I'm tone deaf right now. Try to order breakfast. And Kristin and Lindsay were like, what the fuck is that? Yeah. What's going on? I'm just confused. You're in Arizona and you said, can I get the American breakfast? The American breakfast is two eggs, any style, smoked bacon, choice of toast and potatoes.

Oh, that's like the all star special at Waffle House. I've still never been to Waffle House. So if we get together, I've never been to Waffle House. So you're gonna have to at Waffle House. Oh, please. Maybe they'll sponsor us. And so then I'm like looking at the menu and then it says French ham Benedict and I love eggs Benedict. So I was like, hold on, this actually sounds good. Like, do you recommend this instead? And she's like, Yes, it's very popular. But here's my thing. I don't really love breakfast. So I'm just gonna do the best I

can here and like just like, eat whatever they serve me. So we'll see. The American breakfast. Okay, when I go to Waffle House, I always get the All Star special, specifically because I just want like a little taste of all of the things. So it's normally like whatever your choice of breakfast meat. So it'll be bacon, sausage, country ham, I think is an option. Okay. Then you can get eggs any style. I don't know about anybody else

who is listening to this, but I do not get like a drippy egg anywhere unless it's coming from my nanny's kitchen because if I get food poisoning, I can just cuss her out. So wait, if you get a drippier egg, but if you're when you cook the rest of the egg, does it does the heat from that not cook any bacteria out of the rest of the egg? I don't know. I've never thought about it. I just feel like it's not done. Speaking of eggs, okay. So I have chickens and we get eggs now. Like, I mean, weekly

we get a little over a dozen now and it's just going to become more once more chickens start laying. I wouldn't call it an argument, but I had asked Matt, my friend Matt, and I was like, hey, what is the deal with the eggs that I get from my coop? I'm seeing a lot of different information about keeping them on the counter. Don't wash them. Wash them. If you wash them, they have to go in the fridge, all of this stuff. This girl messaged me on Facebook.

She doesn't have chickens herself. She does not have chickens herself, but she messages me and she was, um, she sent me something about eggs. Hold on. I'm gonna pull it up really quick. And she frustrated me because I'm like, you don't have chickens. So like, please don't come to me about what I'm supposed to do with the chickens if you don't have them yourself. You said wash them and leave them on your counter. These have been out for a week. And I knew, like even other countries and stuff, they don't necessarily always put eggs in the fridge. Like that's just something that we do because of the process that eggs go through here and then they go in the fridge. And then so she sends me these pictures and

I said, I don't think you're supposed to wash them. If you wash them, they need to be put in the fridge. And she goes, no, that's an old wives tale. And I said, Google it. And she said, girl, I've been doing this for years. Trust me, you don't want butt guts on your counter. And I said, but everything that I'm reading says that if you wash them, they have to go in the fridge. So then I asked Matt, and I just don't know. So truly, we haven't eaten any of our own eggs because I'm scared and I don't know. And I don't want to do the wrong thing or like put my kids in harm's way. So like things that I've Googled compared to what she said compared to what Matt said

is all different. So like I truly don't know what to do. Okay. So it's funny that you brought this up because one of my girlfriends has chickens and I was at her house one night and I saw her pull out a drawer and she was getting like utensils out of there and she was, like utensils out of there. And she was, I think she was making like a pot of chili or something. And I see all of these eggs in this drawer.

Like there's an egg holder in her drawer and none of these eggs have ever been refrigerated. I've never had, I've never eaten an egg that has not been in the fridge. Like I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah. Because think about it, like I think for a little while, right, because in nature, you don't necessarily find them right away. So they might be sitting there all day before you pull them. I go check in the morning for them in nature. Well, I mean, like in like on a farm, not in nature. So like every morning when I go down to feed my chickens, I pull eggs or like the kids

pull eggs. But then throughout the day, chickens are also laying throughout the day. So I might not get to an egg for hours and hours because I'm not checking on them every single hour. Now, here's my question though. So Matt had originally told me that if you wash them, you're taking off like the membrane that protects them. So if you wash them, any bacteria that's in your water, what could, in theory, penetrate through the egg and it

damages the protection so it could seep into the egg. And then when I'm Googling it, it's saying all kinds of stuff. I just ended up sending him a message and I'm like, what do I do? Because I truly don't know. He told me that if you don't eat them within a week, but like if you don't eat them within a week, you put them in the fridge. But then, okay, wait, he just sent me a voice note. You do not wash your eggs if you're leaving them on the counter. If you leave them on the counter, they will last longer. But if you wash them, it opens the pores on the eggs and bacteria can get inside the eggs. You're not gonna have chicks by leaving your fucking eggs on the counter because they

have to be sat on or in an incubator with a certain amount of humidity for them to develop so your friends a dumbass. If you wash them it's fine if you wash them but put them in the refrigerator after you wash them. Okay that actually makes sense to me and I kind of believe that but I need to know what came first the chicken or the egg? The chicken. I mean, if I'm just going off of biblical belief, I'm saying the chicken because they went on by two. Wait, okay. That's so interesting that you say that. And we don't have to go into a full on debate, but because you just said that and you said, if I'm going off the biblical situation, I was going based off of

evolution. Because if I was thinking of like, and I don't know this to be true, so I'm just saying in theory, if this is what we're going with for evolution, if we all sort of evolved from little cells and things in biology, and then we start sort of like, when you get pregnant, and it looks like a little tiny tadpole at first, and then it like evolves into something else. Like that's kind of how I always pictured like, life happening. And so it would have had to like grow into the chicken before the chicken because you what the cells wouldn't have like developed an egg with a shell right like or would it I would think not Okay, so as I was saying biblically They went on two by two on the arc, right? Mm-hmm. No, I had them lining up. All right, okay, but if I think really deep about this How did they ever get there? Like the egg would have had to come first.

Like God didn't just like fling a chicken from the sky and be like, here, now you're going to be a man and you're going to be a woman and then y'all are going to screw and make eggs. You know an egg is like a chicken period though, right? No, I didn't know that for the longest time. I did not know that. I thought that it was a robbery. I'm not even lying about this.

I thought that- What did you just say? I thought people who ate eggs, that it was like a robbery happening. Like people were stealing babies from mothers. Like I didn't know that they all weren't going to be chicks. Oh, okay. Same. No, same. I also was unsure about were the eggs fertilized before their hat, before they're born, like come out or were they fertilized after the fact? But it turns out they're fertilized and then sat on.

You could be eating, and I think that's, I'm not super familiar with veganism, but I think the idea about not eating eggs is that it comes from an animal. But also second to that is it could technically be a fertilized egg that got pulled and could not be incubated. Heather Hickman And there's no way to know if it was like fertilized or not, right? Well, so mine can't ever be fertilized because like I thought I had a rooster, but I actually in fact, like I thought I didn't have a rooster and then I thought I did. And then I found out I didn't have a rooster. So like none of them are roosters.

So like none of mine can be fertilized. Because you're not having sex. Because I don't have any males. So I only have females. OK, but in the event there's like a rooster at play, it really is a robbery. Yes. Because you don't know that it could have fertile,

like it could be fertilized and they just need to sit on it. See, I could if I ever had chickens, which I'm not. But if I was going to have chickens, there couldn't be a rooster that was involved because I would just feel very guilty. Like that's some weird shit and like, I don't like it, but moving on. Weird shit and I don't like it. Good bye. Wait, before we move on, I need to tell you something. What? I need to ask you something. First of all, have you ever been to no boo? Yes One time with my sister at the I think there's a Malibu location

Kristen and I went last night because You just hear good things and so I was like we're gonna go be bougie. Mm-hmm We went to the one in Scottsdale. I don't recommend no boo. The food was disgusting like it wasn't good It was, I would rather have my local fucking hibachi. I would rather eat the onions off my filet mignon than to eat the actual filet mignon itself. I could not believe the prices of this place. So like immediately when I walked into Nobu, I'm like, okay, Khloe Kardashian, Thursday Nobu, Vegas Friday. And I have a spray tan at 845. So I was like, Oh, I'm

Chloe and get there order the food. And I'm like, Okay, this is the most plain sushi I've ever had in my entire life. There's no flavor here. And I the steak was absolutely disgusting. It was like not good. I literally was like, I took a video of myself eating the onions because the onions were so much better than personally, I don't know if it's the location because I did think the server said something along the lines of like every nobu has like a signature menu or like signature items or whatever. And so I'm like, okay, this Scottsdale one is not it. And someone recommended it to me here and was like, oh, if you're looking for like a

low key vibe. And I was like, you know what, I'm not meant to be bougie. I am meant to remain in the trailer and the trailer is meant to be remaining in me because I prefer the backyard fucking barbecue with plastic silverware. Same I am like a local barbecue restaurant, local pizza place, local hibachi. Yes. Don't take me to fancy dining. I used to have that conversation

when Will and I were dating. It was, and I think it was maybe like more in the time that we were dating than now. Maybe people still do it. But the thing was, was like on these major holidays that you went to like a nice dinner at a nice restaurant. And we would try like the steak houses or somewhere that had like a nice dinner at a nice restaurant and we would try like steak houses or somewhere that had like a special Valentine's menu and it would always be extremely expensive and

then we would end up either in the Taco Bell drive through or the McDonald's drive through before midnight because I never got full. Why are you taking me out and spending hundreds of dollars on these meals that I don't even like? I don't even want to get dressed up for. I don't want to do this when you can just drive me through McDonald's or Burger King and like we're fine. No, I, Kristin and I were like, are we going to In-N-Out after this?

Like it just like wasn't, I got sushi at the lake from the grocery store and it's like a grocery store that's been there since I was a kid. And it was, they had like a little section and like, I do think that grocery store. It's a grocery store that's been there since I was a kid. It was, they had a little section. I do think that grocery store sushi is very hit or miss. You have to go when it's fresh, when it's brand new, when it's right there. You can't go at the end of the day, in my opinion, at this specific store. We went as soon as it was made. We picked it up. It was so good. It had tons of flavor, had sauces on the side that you can use,abi, whatever, whatever. And Elijah and I literally picked it up one day for lunch. This sushi last night, I was like, oh, I'm not impressed by this whatsoever. It just wasn't it. And also, I was just

truly would rather have my double cheese, add Mac sauce, truly. So I only went one time when I was in Los Angeles for something I think I was filming a Christmas special for Chris Lee knows best. And my sister was all about it. She was like, let's go to no boo. Let's go to no boo. Whatever. And my sister I would say is a foodie and like a sushi connoisseur. Okay. Okay. well, if that's the type of sushi that you like, that ain't me, because that's not the kind that I like. I just want to go to my local place. I don't know, there might be shit in it

that I don't want to know what it is, but it's okay because I like it and it's great for me. Well, I'm here to tell y'all, if you're listening to Coffee Fucking fucking combos, you are not missing anything by not going to Nobu. So when you see this on shows, when you see celebrities talk about it, when you see them photographed outside of Nobu, know that the food is a Nobu. Okay, like it's just not good.

No, I didn't think the food was good at all. I feel like it's extremely overpriced. And I truly feel like you are paying for the experience and to say that you went the experience in my opinion, and maybe Kristin can also add to this, but like, there wasn't an experience either. Like I didn't feel like it did. And like, truly, I have more fun and a better experience at like a local hibachi. Like I truly was like, truly, I have more fun and a better experience at like a local hibachi. Like I truly was like, I, there was no experience.

Like there was nothing experimental. Well, I want to tell you, since we were on the topic of food, I saw this pop up on Instagram and it says to celebrate McDonald's nostalgia. The fans appreciate that they're bringing back something that taps into all the feels. Collectible cups showcasing some of the brand's most iconic keepsakes throughout the years. The collector's meal will be available beginning August 13th for a limited time only. You can order the meal and receive collectible cup. There are six different multi-sided cups to collect and this offer is available all day long. They have Beanie Baby collectible cups and you want to know who's going to have the Beanie Baby collectible cups because I will

be ordering multiple collectible meals. Wait, hold on. When is this again? Because I need to go do it. August 13th. Oh my god. Wait, where is this? I have to call Elijah. Are you calling him and telling him to go pick up? What? Are you kidding me? I never got these as a kid. Yeah. So now you're gonna get to get them. No, I'm calling him right now. I have to get him. No, I'm calling him right now. Hello?

Babe, to celebrate the McDonald's nostalgia that fans appreciate, they're bringing back something that taps into all the feels. They're bringing back collectible cups. I need you to go to McDonald's today right now. And I need you to order all of the cups. All of the cups? There are six of them. They're six of them. They're out today right now. And they're gonna sell out like they're

gonna sell out. And it's already what almost one o'clock over there. I need you to go tell them say hey, listen, I want every single cup. I'll order whatever is going to get me the cups. I need you to go there. I need you to get the cups I don't know why you're laughing this is not funny like I need you to go do this before they sell out all right thank you so much and send me pictures when you get them that's all you have to say you're not excited. So I'm confused as fuck because I don't remember no goddamn fucking cuffs. Okay.

All right. Send me a picture when you get them. All right. Thanks. Let me buy. He's so nonchalant about everything. He's I'm confused as fuck. He's just gonna go do it and he has no idea what the fuck he's looking

for. I'm gonna send him a picture of this so he knows what he's looking for. Like I'm sorry, but I don't care about my custody arrangement because as soon as school is let out, guess who's going to pick up their son to go to McDonald's to get the collectible cups. You are and I need pictures immediately. This bitch right here. You do know that Scottsdale probably has a McDonald's and you could go and get them.

I haven't seen a McDonald's anywhere. I don't know if it's this area that's like bougie as fuck and like doesn't support white trash, but I love it and I need to find a McDonald's. I'm so excited about these cups. I think that you guys all need to go and participate in the nostalgia of the 90s. What Kale just did literally was me circa 1996 collecting beanie babies. But I was calling my grandparents like that. And I was also in the yellow pages or white pages, whichever one was the business one, calling around to all the McDonald's finding out which Beanie Baby they had. I never got to do that as a kid. So when I saw other families have the McDonald's items, like didn't they have the Hercules plates or something? They had like Hercules. They did have plates at one time. Yeah. Like I just distinctly remember Hercules something, Hercules items. Like people had them and I never had them.

So, and McDonald's was like, I remember one specific time my Grandma Carol took me to McDonald's. Like that is the only time I remember going to McDonald's is the one specific time that she took me. And maybe another time, but like that was the most distinct memory was like her taking me. Was there like anything special that you received during that trip? No, there was gristle in my chicken nugget. And she also let me play in the play area.

Oh, wow. I just went to a McDonald's not too long ago. And Jackson was like, why does this one have a play area, but ours doesn't. And I was like, I don't know. But like the play area of McDonald's was the fucking thing when we were kids. Like, yeah, a full blown with characters Barney and baby bought party at McDonald's. I'm gonna do your mind. I'm going through my baby book when we get off of this recording. And I'm taking pictures of my McDonald's birthday party. I got a pink corvette. Bitch. Should we have a coffee combos birthday party at

McDonald's with a play area and do like a little mini makeshift photo shoot? We have to find one that's still because I think they've taken a lot of them out. There's one like not too far from me that they have a playground. No, we have to go in there and have like a coffee combos birthday party. Yes, I would absolutely love that. You want me to tell you something else? Nostalgic? I do. Indicted. Five sisters were addicted. For what? Do you want to hear about their scams? Okay, well, before we get into their scams, I just want to say before

we move on from McDonald's, if I was ever going to participate in a crime, it would be a robbery on their warehouse of their nostalgic items or possibly lethal. Frank. Oh no. 1000% healing my inner child, stealing everything I never had as a kid. So 1000% I'm with you. I'm your co-conspirator. I'm your cellmate.

Like I'm going to, I plead the fifth. I know nothing about the ring leading that led up to this event. I am with you. And we will probably be indicted. We will be indicted. We will be indicted immediately on all counts and all charges. Okay, so this article says five sisters indicted,

but for Coffee Convo's purposes, indicted and multiple state $1 million mail fraud and retail scheme. Would you like me to tell you about what they did? Yes, I would. Okay, five sisters are facing decades in federal prison for an elaborate mail fraud scheme that netted them more than 1 million over about two years. Federal prosecutors say that the sisters would make fraudulent returns by pretending to return an item through the mail and get a refund, then returning the item at the actual store to get a second refund.

It was over two years that they committed this fraud, and we know that it was at least a million dollars that was lost to fraud. That was a quote from the assistant US attorney. These sisters, five of them, 25, 27, 29, 32, and 33 were all indicted for mail fraud and conspiracy to commit mail fraud. Four of the five sisters appeared in court and pled not guilty to the charges. They were released home with the promise to appear at all future court dates and must surrender their passports. The fifth sister is scheduled for an arraignment and detention hearing on Tuesday. So I'm assuming that one of the sister that didn't appear, my guess is she is gonna plead guilty and the other four sisters are pleading not guilty. That's my speculation.

Would you have pled guilty or not guilty? Bitch, if you are in a scheme with five different people and one of them are pleading guilty, y'all all might as well plead guilty. Right? Right. Better change the plea because she's about to tell. Which is scary because if you think back to like, even people who were like mostly having a united front, like it would your sister is about to turn on you. Like you have to know that she's about to turn on you. But damn.

So it says, investigators say the sisters would buy these items online. So I saw a video and it was talking about how they would do it with like workout clothes and stuff. So I'm wondering if they've like scammed Lulu Limen. Like I'm not really sure. But then they would request a shipping label, pretend to return the item using a self-service kiosk at like USPS. And then they would get a refund for those items that they were they pretended to mail back because they were just going to scan like the return thing to show that it was in the mail, but it was never in the mail.

And then they would turn around and return the items for a second fraudulent return at the actual store. This was happening in multiple states across the country. And it says that prosecutors have flight records that show they often went for one day, they would travel left in the morning, returned in the evening to go to multiple stores and another state and make all their returns before coming back.

So here's my thought. First of all, I just got a notification that Elijah Scott left our house and I'm assuming that means that he's going to McDonald's. So are we trying to know we have life 360. So it just tells me. It notifies me when he leaves the property or if he's go somewhere. And I think the same for me to him. But second, here's my thought about these long-term, long-running schemes.

The longer it goes on, do you not have fears, like higher fears that you're gonna get caught? Because I don't think that I could live knowing that like I was basically doing this like long running scheme thing and like not worried that I'm gonna get caught. I think because they were all in it together. It was like there's so many of us that are doing this crime that we're way smarter than anybody to figure us out. Well there wasn't enough of them. There's so many of us that are doing this crime that we're way smarter than anybody to figure us out. Well there wasn't enough of them.

They needed more family members, it sounds like. I need to know the retail store victims. I want to know who it was. Was this Lululemon? Was this Athleta or whatever that's called? I love Athleta. What stores were these? It say um that the returns were

California, Colorado, Flo Oregon and Washington. An was a search warrant issu seized from the sisters a in cash and about $500,000 in cash and about $500,000 worth of gold jewelry, five Teslas, and over 100,000 in activewear merchandise from the victim retailer. Well, who the fuck is the victim retailer? It's Lululemon, isn't it? Yeah, they probably don't want their name said. I just have so many questions. Like, how did you come up with this plot?

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were they all like pulling up to these crimes in these Teslas and like swinging out with a butterfly doors like going into Lululemon. Well, I would Elon Musk be proud. No, he wouldn't. He would he be like, okay, you scammed these people and you got away with it. So you bought Tesla's from my company, like, thank you so much like for supporting my business. Bitch,

like Homeland Security investigations were involved in this like this is a big deal. And I really want to talk about I'm sure their defense will be, this was a victimless crime. Like there was no like person victim, like said person victim. Like it wasn't like they went and killed somebody or something, right? But there is a victim. It's somebody's business. Like I don't care how big the business is like you scammed. So you fucked up. So yes, there is a victim. It's a quote from Homeland Security Special Investigation agent. He said it's not a victimless crime. It's not a small amount

of money that we're talking about. In both cases, the problem is at large having real financial impacts on federal partners. And I agree with that. I just wish that I knew if it was in fact, Lululemon, because I want to protect Lululemon at all cost. I have still not purchased anything of Lululemon. So I think the next time I see you in person, we're gonna go to McDonald's, we're gonna go to Lululemon, I'll make my first Lululemon purchase with you think the next time I see you in person, we're gonna go to McDonald's, we're gonna go to Lululemon. I'll

make my first Lululemon purchase with you. And then maybe we could do a Lululemon giveaway because you love it so much. But I have never even I don't even know that I've ever been in a Lululemon store. Like I don't think I have I don't know for sure. Maybe like an outlet maybe but I've never purchased anything. So I'll just we'll do all that together. Okay, last thing I'm going to say about this is these sisters I've never purchased anything. So I'll just, we'll do all that together. Okay. Last thing I'm gonna say about this

is these sisters face up to 20 years in prison, $250,000 in fine for each of their 25 counts in the indictment. And the trial is set for this case on August 19th. So I'm sure we will receive more information to know who the victim is. But truly though, when all five of these sisters were involved in these crimes, we know how the criminal justice system works.

And it is very possible that all five of them will get very different sentencing. What does that look like? And how is that fair? Because if they were all involved in this to the degree that they are allegedly involved, shouldn't they all get the exact same thing? But that's the crazy thing about federal guidelines. So that changed years and years ago to where federal judges had the discretion to rule how they wanted to and sentence how they wanted to.

But there is a federal guideline that they should follow. So if this crime holds anywhere from like, one to 20 years or one to five years, they can sentence higher on the guideline, or lower on the guideline, the one sister, well, based on their, their five sisters, they all did the same thing. And what you didn't like the Tesla she picked out over the one that her sister picked out. So you're going to give her more time. Like how does that work?

Well based off of the investigation they could say, okay, this was the ringleader of this crime. And while these others were participants in this crime, this person was the orchestrator of this crime. So this person deserves to get more time because had this person not orchestrated, these other people wouldn't have been involved, right? I guess maybe this the sentencing for the one that pled guilty is pleading guilty could also be different because she's like, Okay, I'm admitting to my crimes. Well, we don't really know if she's pleading guilty. That's just a speculation that I have. Probably the case. If you plead guilty, then that is a that is I have, probably the case. If you plead guilty, then that is basically saying,

I'm taking accountability for what I did and I know it was wrong and the punishment is whatever the punishment is. And judges do look at that very differently than people who plead not guilty. They're like, you haven't taken any accountability for your crime. We have the evidence to prove that you did said crime. Those other people are fucked. But the fact that these women had the ability to do this for as long as they did, I would

be scared to be the sister because I'd be like, are they going to send people to come kill me? Because if four of them are pleading non-guilty and one of them does in fact plead not, sorry, if four of them plead not guilty and one of them does in fact plead guilty, I would be concerned that the rest of them are going to send someone to kill me. No, I'm going into witness protection. 100%. That's what I'm doing. 100%.

I'm changing my entire identity. I'm becoming Scott Peterson and I'm dying my hair. I'm doing. Like, I'm changing my entire identity. I'm becoming Scott Peterson, and I'm dying my hair. I'm fleeing the country. I will not be here like you will not kill me. I am taking responsibility for my bullshit. And what you guys do is what y'all do and stay the fuck over there. 1000% Can you imagine these sisters while they're not driving up in Tesla's, they're probably got to take Uber but could you imagine them showing up at court? Well, like, do they have? Are they able to prove that the Teslas were like bought with fraudulent? Oh, yeah, they can. The government can prove anything when they get like search warrants on like

your financial records and shit. They'll know that you went to McDonald's like at three o'clock yesterday. Wait, so there's this like family drug ring in Delaware. Did I tell you about this? It was like two brothers and I think their dad or their uncle, and they were running like a drug ring. And they just recently did a drug bust of them at a gas station in Delaware, like right in my town in Dover. And honestly, like, they really have the community support, which is crazy. Like they are facing all of these charges, but it was

marijuana, like we thought it was like a 400 or $500,000, like drug bust. So everyone in Delaware, like in the area was like, what the fuck, like what was going like, we thought it was like a like coke or heroin or something. And like, whatever. So I see all of like, my Facebook friends, like posting about this thing. And first of all, it being a family affair is so funny to me, like, it's not funny, but it's like, so weird to me, like, you just imagine like running a fucking

drug ring with your parents, like what? So it ends up that they the uncle or the dad, I can't remember who it was, but like he was charged because he owned the property that they were running this out of. And one of the brothers ended up getting charged because he had like a big wad of cash. They found like $200,000 in cash. And then they had $400,000 or something like that, like worth of marijuana. And all these Facebook friends like in my area were like, we're so disappointed. Like we thought this was like cocaine, like we thought this was like a big drug bust. So to find out that this is like marijuana, they were like all disappointed. And so the community kind of like banded together and was like supporting these this like family. But like, what about these fraudsters like out there just carrying cash and shit on them? Like Like I would be afraid that my luck,

my cash would burn on fire somehow. Like I would set a straightener somewhere and it would be like blowing the fuck up. Well, so my thing is like with cash specifically, I become very tip happy. So I would be spending my income, my profit, my drug profits would be going to people. Like we had valet downstairs

and I'm tipping them 20s left and right and they're not really doing anything. I see where they're putting the car. It's not like they're moving the car to a location that's like unseen, like in New York or something. They're literally parking it in a spot for me and I'm just handing out 20s. So I would not be a great drug lord or whatever it's called because I'm just like donating funds. Do you know what this reminds me of? Remember that show like way back when weeds? Yeah, I never got I never watched it. But I know exactly

what you're talking about. You never watch weeds. No, but I remember this guy that I was dating. Do you remember? I think you might have met him. Anyway, he told me that I reminded him of one of the characters in Weeds. Oh, really? Yeah, but I never saw it. So like, I never got the joke or whatever. I mean, what was it about? It was about like a family that's like selling drugs.

Yeah, it's like this whole like drug situation on. Was it weed or was it like, yeah, weed? And you you need to watch it. Like if you haven't, I am truly at a loss of words to know that you have never watched it. I've watched it multiple times, like all the way through. Leads, images. Oh, okay.

And it's just like a show about like marijuana? Well, it's just a show about like the business and stuff. And then like family life and, you know, just like all the legal activity that that goes on. It's very interesting. I love it so much. Just casually all the illegal illegal activity. Love it. Um, okay, so I wanted to give you an up like the full blown update on my old house. So it was under contract. Okay. And then the contract ended up falling through. Went

through inspection, passed inspection, went through what do they call that? Where? I don't know. What's it called? Like where they're like, Okay, yes, this, this is the value of the house. Appraisraisal appraisal. Yeah, went through appraisal, pass the test, all the things. Okay. Yesterday, I'm sitting at home, and I get a text that the buyer didn't like the financing. What does that mean? You get pre approved for whatever you like, when you get pre-approved for like a mortgage,

you have like, you find out what like your higher end is, like where you kind of what you're approved for. But like, do you want to pay the higher end of that, like approval? Or do you want to stay lower than that so that you're not like house broke? Like, what do you mean they didn't like the financing? What does that mean? So from my understanding, they made an offer for my house that I accepted and they knew what the numbers were. Like when you make an offer that is saying,

okay, I am fine with said offer, I've probably already had the conversation with my lender and my real estate agent of this is what the breakdown would be like monthly payments, whatever. Yeah. I'm confused how you just figured out real estate agent of this is what the breakdown would be like monthly payments, whatever. Yeah, I'm confused how you just figured out that you aren't comfortable with your financing. Like that's not a me problem. No, literally when when Kristen and not when Kristen helped me close on my land, it was

there was we got an email that was like a full breakdown of every single thing that I would have to bring not not just like my monthly payments, but like what I would have to bring to the table, what I would have to, you know, all my options. And then it's like, do you want to pay in full? Do you not want to pay in full? And then it also tells you like, oh, also some mortgages like on houses, I'm not sure about land, but like if you finance land, sorry, if you finance a house, like if you make extra payments, you won't be penalized or if you will stuff like that.

Oh yeah, like you get a full blown breakdown and it's like, if you put X percentage down, this is going to be the estimate of your monthly payment, whatever. Okay, so they knew all of that information. Well, then what made me upset was the financing contingency ended last week. And my agent also has the right to speak to their lender. So the lender's like, no, everything is fine. Like it's scheduled to still close September 6th, no issue. They're aware of the financing. Financing is good.

We're good. So I'm like, okay, well, what happens to the earnest money? Because I'm like the financing contingency, at this point, it's not a financing issue, because the lender is saying it's not a financing issue. But because and I don't know if it's just in the state of Georgia, but due diligence ended yesterday. So they could still pull out of the contract for no reason, like they don't have to cite reason nothing, and still get their earnest money back. But yet I

took the house off of the market, had my agent put it under contract like online, so we didn't get any inquiries about it, didn't show it for the entire time that they were going through the process of whatever process they're going through, and then terminate the contract and I get nothing for it. In a world of slot reels and blackjack deals comes the must play event of the summer from Draftkings Casino. Featuring nonstop action and an all-star cast of games,

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did they just find out what the numbers were the day of the last day of due diligence, or did they find out days before and they decided at the last minute they didn't want to do it? Well, had it been today and due diligence ended yesterday, they would have been out there earnest money, but they still could get it back as long as they terminated the contract yesterday. But like, why wait until the last minute to do that? Because there is no protection on the seller. The protection is only for the buyer, which I personally don't think is really fair.

Well, right. Because you could have in theory. I know that people do it. for the buyer, which I personally don't think is really fair. Right, because you could have, in theory, I know that people do it. I'm not sure if it's like super common. But when it's under contract or, well, I don't know about under contract, but when it's like contingent, like if someone has a contingency of like they have to sell their house first and then they can buy it, I think you can still show the house because it's like if this falls through, like you want to have other options. But to be nice, I told my agent like, let's not have anybody else in the house, because I don't have any attachment to that house anymore. Like that is just an asset to me at this point.

But I don't have any emotional attachment to the house, those people that are buying it. I want to respect the fact that they're buying it, they're going through this whole process. I'm not going to let anybody else in. Don't want people on their carpets or like, you know, whatever, like just trying to be friendly and kind. Now, I'm like, I probably won't do that in my next deal. And unfortunately,

the people that come after them, you're not going to get. Yeah, because here's my next question. Could you since you're paying two mortgages right now, right? Like you're paying where you're at now. And then the last one, could you rent it out? Would that be something that you would be willing to do? So it would be like more of like an investment property? I mean, I could I just don't like the idea of necessarily doing that. I would just rather sell and then be done with it. But is it an option? Yes, it is an option. But it went back on

the market yesterday and there's already showings. So there's really no reason for me to go that route now. I am I'm a little nervous because when I went to the nail salon before I came to Arizona, the my nail tech, he always gives me the tea on everything that I'm like living under a rock about. And he told me that the real estate market is going back down. And also just like everything in the economy the way it is. So I'm like, he literally said to me, he's like, I think that you should, before you start building again,

he's like, I really think that you should talk to your financial advisor to see like what's going on in the market before you, because you might not be able to sell your house. Like last year I could sell my house and it probably wouldn't have been an issue, but like this coming year, he was like, I

don't know if you'll struggle. I don't know what that looks like. So I'm kind of glad that you're giving me this input because I don't know, especially with interest rates, it's so weird because I feel like that's such a huge factor. Some people will have, I remember when I was, I think it was when I built my house or when I bought my land, I don't remember, the interest rate dropped. I think it was from my house. The interest rate dropped from the time that I was given the original one to the time that we were about to close and it had dropped. And I was like, are you fucking, like by a whole percentage? And I was like, are you fucking kidding me? So like that's scary. And I think maybe when people buy your house, they have to consider like, if we don't move this quickly, you could, the interest rate could drop.

Well, here's the other thing. You can, when you go to buy a house, you can not lock your interest rate in like while you're at the beginning of that deal. So when you go to get financing, you can leave it on like an open scale. And when you start getting close, closer to closing, then you can lock your rate. That's what I did for my build. Yeah. And remember, I forget what they called it. Christian would know.

They called it something like a floating, like floating or something. Yeah. I think it's like a floating interest rate. And that's what I've always done, is just kind of let it sit there. Now it is a little bit risky because if you let it sit there, it could go up. So you are playing a little bit with fire,

but if you watch trends, then you can be safe. And if you have a good lender, your lender is watching those trends to know, okay, what we are seeing or what the projection is, is this interest rate could go up by a half percent or, you know, one whole percent. Do you want to walk now? And then I'll walk. Kristen said you have a variable interest rate or fixed rate. I know I was thinking about like what it's called in the like interim. Yeah, I can't remember.

I thought it was called like a floating, I don't know, I might be making that up. You just don't lock in. Okay. I don't know if there was like a name for it. Speaking of homes though, I had a build meeting virtually. So I was supposed to have a meeting a couple of weeks ago

cause I gave, did I tell you about like the architect who like didn't give me like the timeline or whatever? Not a big deal. It wasn't a big deal. And I don't want anyone to think like I'm complaining or anything. It's just like the communication wasn't there between the two of us. So I just thought, you know what, we'll go somewhere else and I'll, we'll just start off. Cause I just got a feeling that like, if it started off with bad communication, then it probably was going to happen throughout the entire process. I was like, you know what? I'll just nip it in the bud right here.

And so I got a little nervous because I was supposed to have a build meeting last week before I left for the lake or New York or wherever I was going. And the son called me and was like, hey, my dad said he was supposed to meet you. There was a family emergency, blah, blah, blah. I felt like everyone uses family emergency. So like, I kind of felt like I was not being bamboozled, but I was like, okay, this is going to end up being a waste of time. Long story short, everything was okay. Um, ended up being okay.

He, the owner texted me was like, Hey, like, I would really love to reschedule this. So I was like, okay, this is a good sign that he like reached back out and like, whatever, whatever. So we did the meeting this morning on like virtually and I asked for a timeline completely upfront. And he was like, in full transparency, like, it's gonna take me since we're starting from scratch, like, you're not handing me blueprints that you sort of like, and we're tweaking. He's like, if this is like, start to finish, like, pen to paper drawing board type deal, it's going to take two to three months at minimum, just to get the blueprints back, like just to get the drawings done, which brings us to the end of the year, like all the way to the end of 2024. And then we,

that's just like the first draft. So like, once we start doing it, which is fine, it's fine. Like I want to take my time with this house. And also, that gives us time to like, see what the market does too. And like what the predictions are at the end of this year into next year. I don't really give a fuck if I don't start building until 2025 2026. Like I don't it doesn't bother me. I'll make my house work. It's not ideal, but like I'll make it work. Um, and if we end up never building and go a different route, like I also

don't care at this point, I would just have to figure out bedrooms and whatever. But that's the update with my build situation is that I bought the land and I might not be building for the next year. Two to three months just for the initial drawings, and then probably another two or three months after that for finalizing them. And then we wouldn't, I would, I would guess we wouldn't break ground in the winter. I don't

know that for sure. I didn't ask him. But do you start breaking ground in the winter? Like, I would talk to Elijah about the concrete, because I've always heard that concrete is a lot harder situation to pour during the wintertime. Well, he also was really cool because he, the guy, the builder, the owner of the company, he was like, anything that you think you want now,

or that you would possibly want in the future, we would put into phases on your like build plans. So he was like, if you want like a pole barn, and I do need a full barn now, like an actual barn, or an in-law suite, like for a later date, you would do like phase one, which would be like what need a full barn now, like an actual barn or an in-law suite. Like for a later date, you would do like phase one, which would be like what we're building right now. And then a phase two, which is what we would build in the future. He was like, I want to make sure that that's all incorporated in the plan. And I said, well,

that's really interesting that you brought that up because the current house that I'm in, we never planned for a pool. We never planned for concrete. And so once the house was already built, it was just kind of a free for all and we just do what we can sort of deal. It wasn't like already pre-planned. So he was like, oh yeah, no, like we would, and if you never build the in-law suite, you know,

for phase two, like that's fine, but at least it's in the plan so that it's in accordance, what is the word, accordance? Accordance. It's in accordance with like the septic and whatever else. And so I was like, okay, wow, like this is way already a better experience and way more in depth. So that's my that's my house update. So I'm sorry that yours fell through. But I do hope that, truthfully, maybe

you'll get a better offer than the one that you took in the first place. You know what, now the interest rates are a little bit lower than when that one came through. Maybe, maybe I will. And I'll take it. Honestly, I think everything happens for a reason. And those people were not supposed to live in that house. And for that reason alone, I find peace in that. Yeah. And I'm like, you know what, the right buyer will come along. And that house was very special to me. Like, it was a very special chapter of my life and a very healing chapter of my life. And I hope whoever gets it gets to go into that home. And it serves

the same purpose that it was able to serve for me. It might be a different purpose, but a same purpose, right. And that might be someone else like maybe that's the next person's forever home. And it wasn't going to be the forever home of the last offer. You know what I mean? Coffee combos podcast is brought to you by progressive insurance. Hey, coffee combos listeners, whether you love true crime or comedies, celebrity interviews, news or even motivational speakers, you call the shots on what's in your podcast queue, right?

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sure that we're able to get to that. The first one is a little sticky and I'm so moved past it that I don't really have much to say on it, but I will answer the question. A few years back when the podcast took a hiatus, what happened? I think that I can probably collectively speak for the both of us. We simply just moved on and wanted to maintain the podcast as it being ours in our business. We are very proud of Coffee Convo's and I think that neither of us really realized what the podcast was gonna turn into and the community that we were gonna build

with that podcast. And I think that it was just a maintenance of it being our business. And honey, business is business. We were new to the podcast space and I don't think that we were fully prepared for all of the things that came with podcasting. I think it sounds good to a lot of people, oh, I'm going to start a podcast. But the behind the scenes that goes into podcasting and especially when you have a podcast that has ads in it and deals and stuff like that. Like there's there's

money on the back end and there's people on the back end that are making money. And so it gets really, really tricky when you don't know the goings on behind the scenes. And I think that Lindsay and I were still so new to the podcasting space that we didn't actually know what was happening. And so we needed to take the break to get our shit together and know better for the next time. And now we are copyrighted. Copyrighted and trademarked? Are we trademarked?

Are we copyrighted or trademarked? I think trademarked. Well, we own our RSS feed. So if at any point we wanted to go start our own network or go under a different network, which we're so happy where we're at, we could do that and take the show with us where there is something that and maybe people don't know, but there is certain situations where a network can technically

I'm just gonna use. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and use coffee combos as an example, like technically they could have if you don't own your own RSS feed in your own name and things like that, they could take coffee combos podcast, remove us as hosts, put two new hosts in and they are basically benefiting everything that we built, they're benefiting from all the things that we built the community, the the listenership, all the things. And it's two brand new hosts and we have nothing to do with it. And so we wanted to make sure that that couldn't, we didn't put ourselves in a position where that could happen again. And we, we own the

IP, we own the trademark, we own all the things. And so we just want to put ourselves in a better position. We needed time. Because you know, we're business girlies and stuff. She's a bit feature us on Forbes because we're business girlies. One that I really want to get to is any merch coming out. And I'm going to let Kale take the lead on that because she has always been a merch girly and I have not really go ahead. Flourish. So we are actively working on merch. And I know

that we have said that 100 times before. I know that. However, we Lindsay and I really want to put ourselves back into the position where you guys trust us and we do what we say we're going to do. And so we haven't really talked about it too much because we have felt like we've said things prematurely and then not executed on time or not executed at all. And so we definitely want to rebuild the trust and make sure that we're putting out quality products. We are going through the sampling selection right now and sampling products because we don't want to put out just like junk items. So yes, there

is merch coming. We do not have a date, but we want to make sure it's quality and we want to make sure that you guys are going to love it. So just stay tuned and try to be patient with us because we are really new to like just having consistent merch drops. But now that we have like our Coffee Combo's branding and our website is up to date, don't forget about coffeecombo'spodcast.com. We just wanna put out like quality stuff and do it the right way. So yes, there is merch coming out. And the ideas that we have for merch,

like I've never been one to like really care about it and Kale can attest that. I'm just like, whatever, you know. Yeah. You know, do you with your merch. But I do know that you guys have requested it for a very long time. And my biggest thing is to provide something

that is reflective of each of us that are two very different people, but probably more similar than what I think most people know. But putting two brains together and coming up with something that, number one, that you will wanna wear, number two, that is sustainable through washing cycles and things that you would be proud to wear

or be associated with us, I think that's all super important. And so we are going through that entire process and it's a lot more than what I think people think. Like, it's not just, okay, we went to Wally World and got a t-shirt press and started like putting stuff on a sweatshirt. Like just as of yesterday, I sent Kale something that I really liked and want to see what the process would be to get something like that.

And I'm not going to tell you guys what it is, but it's cool and it's cute and it's chic and it's fetch. And I love it. We also don't want you guys to feel like you're walking billboards for the podcast. We definitely wanna do something that's like more, if you know, you know, like if you listen to Coffee Combos, you know what it is because it just feels more intimate with our community that we've built here.

And so we wanna make sure that we also have that. And also something that and also something that you can like dress up and dress down, not just like coffee combos, t-shirt. Like I don't, if I see like merch from another company, I want it to be something that I associate with that podcast or I associate with being part of that community. And so we're working on it.

Lindsay's waiting on samples of like possible merch items. And so once we once she gets those, we will do like our selections. And it'll be good. Whatever we whatever we finalize, it'll be good. And you guys will know first. Um, the next question, Kristen, fuck off. Once you back with Will unpack light with love and respect respect what is the most surprising weirdest thing the other host does in their life? That's a really intimate question. What is the most surprising weirdest thing the other host does in their life?

I know what mine is for you. What is it? You fucking farm. You never thought kale would be a farmer? No, I never saw that coming ever. You never saw that coming really? No, I never thought about it from from time to time where I'm like, did I ever picture myself doing this and I feel like I

did but like, I don't know farming comes so easy to me. I love it so much. It's like, let me just say the farm animals the animals that I have now come easy to me. I don't know that I could do like horses and cows where like they're like more like, I don't even know the first thing about like brushing a horse or like hoofing them or whatever it's called. The most surprising thing that Lindsay does, she sometimes works from the restaurants that

she that she goes to, like she'll take like a, yeah, I will, lunch and take my little laptop and I'm a working lunch girly. I love that there's nowhere in Delaware that I would be like, oh, I'm gonna do a working lunch here because there's besides like Panera, but I want like a cool chill vibe. Like I want like a like a fun place to go do that where I'm like, okay, this is a vibe, but I can also get my work done. It's like a real of my life to go to like a local restaurant, grab a soup, get a

mojito, have my laptop out. And I'm just typing away. I love that. Like I love that so much. But I just you seem so like, I guess when I picture what Lindsay does on like a day to day basis, it would never include going to get a mojito and working from your laptop. Like it would just not include that on any day ever. But I also feel like I'm very predictable person too. Like at any time, any person that like knows me well, they can likely predict what I'm doing. That's just so funny to me.

they can likely predict what I'm doing. That's just so funny to me. Like, for example, yesterday I got a phone call from my ex-husband and he was like, what are you doing as he knows what I'm doing? Oh, he knew where you'd be and that's why he called you because he knew he could. So he knew to some degree what you were doing. Okay.

Did Elijah take Kale's last name? I'm interested in their decision to have the twins take the Lowry last name. Well, first of all, who did this? Kristen did these shady questions. It's not that deep. The last name thing is not that deep. Maybe it is for some, maybe it is. I don't know. The long story really boils down to, and I've said this a thousand times, it's not new. I regret giving Isaac Rivera. Not because Joe is not involved. That's not why I regret it. But I grew up wishing I was my mom's last name because that was where we lived and that was all my cousins were Irwin. And I really

wish that I was an Irwin. I had no connection to my dad. Now that is not why I regret giving Isaac Rivera. I think that if anything, we should have hyphenated it because we were not married. And even when Joe said to me, we'll probably get married someday. So just give him Rivera. I still am just like a non-traditional girly in that way. So like, I, I feel like it should have been hyphenated. And that being said, moving on to my next children, you know, Lux and Creed started off as Lopez and went to Lowry because of the situation with their dad. Okay. In order for everyone to match, I wish that they were all, either all of them were hyphenated

or all of them were Lowry to match. Chris's last name Lopez comes from his mother. So to me, I could see, you know, what the deciding factor was there. Having Elijah's last name, did it make sense to me based on my past experiences? I was not married to Joe and I regret giving him Rivera. Why would I make that same mistake again after I did it with Lux and Creed and immediately also regretted that? Right? Like I made the same mistake not once, not twice, but three times. Do we not learn hopefully at some point from the same mistakes? And so for all my kids to match, I really wish that they were all Lowry with the exception of Lincoln because

I was married to his dad. And I do think, you know, whatever, I, you know, that didn't really bother me, I guess. I don't know why, but I just wanted all my kids to match. And I don't think that Elijah ever has plans to change his name to Lowry. And I think that we're just at a place where like, it is what it is, you know, and I, I wish that I would have done things differently. I wish that I would have given Isaac either Lowry Rivera or just Lowry. I wish that I would have just started Lux and Creed with just Lowry and, um, or, or Lowry Lopez. And then same for the, the everybody. I just want them all to match like they're gonna go to school and no one's gonna know so and so is your brother. No one I can never wear a jersey that says all my kids last names. You know what I mean? Like I can't

so on one of my jerseys that I have I think it was for flag football. It says Mariquin and Lowry like it's I already made fucked up fucked up choices for my kids and I feel bad that now they're having to suffer because they do probably have to explain why do you have different dads? Why do you have different last names? Why? And I don't like that for them. I fucked up, they shouldn't have to suffer. That's the long story. So if I ever got remarried, but I hyphened when I was married the first time, I was just Lindsay Chris Lee Campbell. I don't know that I would do a name change.

To your new husband? I've always said that I think it's disrespectful not to do it. And maybe that was just the way I was raised. I don't know. But I think that you lose a sense of your identity whenever you do that. And that's something that I mean, not that that's even like on my radar, right? So if I say like, that's something that I'm currently struggling with, I think that it's a common thing that a lot of women probably struggle with.

Like my identity is Lindsay Chrisley. Yeah. Me taking someone's last name feels like I'm changing who I am. I also just like, don't think it's necessary. Like I really love the idea too. Like why can't Elijah and I just, if we wanted to, and I'm not saying we're doing this because I think it would probably not make sense for us now,

but had we gotten married and then had kids, we could be low Scott. Like that could be our new last name. And then we're both low Scott and so are the kids. So then we're not, you know what I mean? Like if we wanted to go to a whole last name. Yeah. That's a thing.

Yeah. Because I think just like as time goes on, you know, we're becoming more progressive and just like trying to grow with the times. Like why does someone change their life? Like what is the purpose and why does the woman have to change their last name Like what is the purpose? And why does the woman have to change their last name and the man doesn't? So like, to me, especially like, I know that Scott and Thomas for his family is like, that's their legacy. And I get that. And I respect that. But like, what about my legacy? What about what about what I've done? What about

how hard I fucking work to get to where I am? Why does my last name not get to be counted? So if at any point we decide to add Scott, I think that's always an option. And then the kids can choose from there. But then also to like, when they're adults, and they're they're getting married, and they're choosing last names, how does that work with hyphenated names? Do they give all of their children and their wife both last names? Or is it just one? Or like, how does that work? Because could you imagine if

Rio and verse were to like grow up and they were like, Lowry Scott, and one of them was like, I'm just gonna drop Lowry and be Scott. And then the other one was like, I'm just gonna drop Scott and be Lowry. What the fuck you guys are full siblings, and you guys have two different last names? Like, what is that? That's, that's insane. I think probably the history, which I'm not a history buff. I went to summer school every year in high school for history.

I think it has something to do with back in the times that women used to be considered like men's property. And so that's where, and I could be wrong, but I think that that's probably where it started. So then it's just you get married, you take his last name. But to your point, what about your legacy? And then I saw one of my kids' dads like got on Instagram and was like having like feelings about what I've said in the past. I can't narrow down one reason why they're a Lowry.

There's not one reason. There's not one reason why I regret why Isaac is not a Lowry. Isaac wants to be an Irwin. And I did see other bullshit about like, well, he doesn't even know Kale's family. Yes, the fuck he does. Like that's what we were doing at the lake. We were with the Irwin. So like, that was not influenced by me. Could he have possibly heard me say that? Maybe. But at the end of the day, Isaac Irwin sounds good to him. Like he thinks it sounds like a brand. I agree, like whatever, but also could have hyphenated Irwin Lowry, right? I was actually reading this book. It's called By Any Other Name and it's about women.

And it's about, it's one of the women was the first poet to be, a first female poet to be published in England in the 1500s or 1600s or something. And in it, there's like, the lords and all of this, and they get married, and they have an heir, and then they let their wife and their child live in that house, and then they turn around and they have a mistress somewhere else. It was just really interesting to think about

it in that context, too. Like, that's the legacy that men are leaving. Like, you have a mistress and a wife and you have this and that. But like my legacy for me is like I came from nothing and I'm creating a name and I'm saying all of this to say, oh, I meant to circle back to the, to one of the dads saying something. He made a point to bring up the fact that like, technically I'm not supposed to be a Lowry, I'm supposed to be a Morris. So I found out through AncestryDNA that I'm not in fact a Lowry. But however, no, that's true. However, Lowry is the name that I was given. That's the name that I've been branded. That's the name that I've published everywhere. That's who I am now. And I'm

creating a legacy of Lowry despite where it came from. And that is the bottom line is like, what about the legacy that I created with Lowry? Like, that's who I'm becoming. That's who I've been. Why is that not okay? It's so interesting. And back to the ancestry thing you and I've never had the conversation about what you found out on. I've never talked about it. You never have? No, I'm never actually. Why did Elisha send me the picture of the fucking cups? He got

them? Yes. Yes. Yes. As soon as we get done, I'm going to get mine. You're the best. Thank you. He's so funny because he's like, all right. All right. And then he does know he probably thought it was a bamboozle or like, like, tick tock, like scam. What were you just saying before that about the the ancestry DNA like we've never really Well, I'm going to tell you about it at a later date. But I need to like finalize a couple things. But long story short, for now is that I'm supposed to be amorous. Like I'm

if I was going by my dad's last name, my dad just like doesn't want to admit a lot of things. Or even talk to me at all. He's not a Lowry either. So Oh, wow. So you're gonna to tell us about this in a later day? Yeah. I just want to get all the concrete facts before I go spewing misinformation because the family members that don't want to hear it that I've already talked to, they don't want to hear it.

They're committed to no, no, no, no, that they don't believe it. Not that they don't want to hear it, it's that they don't believe it, not that they don't want to hear it, it's that they don't believe it. So once I get some things finalized, I'll feel better about speaking about it because it's like, okay, I know for a fact this is factual information. Love it. Can't wait to hear about it whenever you have all of the details. That's the foul play of your actual life and we're about to do Coffee Convo's podcast

foul play. Okay, period. So once in Walmart, after my second shift job, it was around 11 p.m., my husband and I were shopping for something in Home Improvement Isle. I lifted my leg and directed an incredibly loud fart at the person behind me. Is this a woman?

Why, why? When I turned around to my horror, that person was not my husband. We locked eyes and he started laughing and took off running. I ran to my husband at the end of the aisle. I was so embarrassed. I was crying. And I was mad at him for not taking the blame for this sad part. He said, quote,

how can I pretend it was me you lifted your leg and quote, I am sure the man from the aisle still tells that story with glee about the flatulent woman in scrubs. I have no words. What are y'all doing? Are y'all feral? Okay. Have you ever known somebody to crop dust in public because I specifically was married to someone like that and it pisses me off. I hate when my kids fart in the car and they don't say anything. I would like a warning for you to be like, I really have to fart. My stomach hurts. Can you put the windows down? I would respect that

so much more. Are these like silent but deadlies or? Yeah. See, I don't like the silent ones. And do you remember that time that Jackson farted on my bed? It was like when my parents were on trial, I think. And I looked down and I found the rolling turd. I'm gonna remember. Yeah. First of all, I just I just hate farting. But I think farting is so funny and like such a natural thing. But also don't get me trapped somewhere where you have fucking farted. Like do not fart in my car. You will get put out on the side of the road. Do not fart in my vicinity.

Go and fart in your room or go to the bathroom and fart. Like don't fart on my upholstered couches and shit. Like I don't want to stop you. I also get like, I don't want to poop in front of people because if I sit down on the toilet and fart and it like reverberates and like, you can hear it from the other like that's embarrassing. Oh, it's so embarrassing, which is why I don't know if you remember me telling you this. But when I was married, I would

go, everybody knew I was going to take a shit because I would go into our master bedroom and I would close the master bedroom door. And then I would close our bathroom door. And then I would close the door to where the toilet was like there was three doors closed of where I was taking a shit. Like, no one needs to be around here. I don't want anybody to hear me fart. Like, I don't want any part of that to be a story in my life. Like never has will ever heard me fart in the

years that I've known him and like 14 years he has never heard me fart. No 1000%. No Elijah will never hear me fart unless it's in my sleep. If he ever did I would have ended my marriage then. I would have been like we have to separate immediately. But like what's the deal with people thinking it's funny to like crop dust somebody because no that's foul. Your butt juices is in my

nostrils. Truly, I think burping around me is worse. I don't really like burpers either. I'm not gassy person. So I don't I mean, do I burp? Yeah, like I get heartburn and I'll burp or whatever. But am I a gassy person where I'm just like belching all the time? Absolutely not. And if you need to do that, then fucking go somewhere. There was this woman in my life that would just like belch out these like wild ass burps. And it was so disgusting that like even my kids said something to me.

I already feel like I know who it is. So by next. Wait, what? My kids would be like, like, they talk shit about it. Like, that's how bad it was. Yeah. They literally would talk shit about it because they were like, that's so disgusting. And like, I don't even care when my kids are like, Hey, I farted. I'm like, what do you say? And they'll say, excuse me, like, I'm sorry for my asshole making a noise. Like, it'll be it'll be silent. And they'll like fart and like laugh

about it, especially Lux and Creed. And I'm like, what do you say? And they're like, Excuse me. And I'm like, well, thank fucking God, you have some kind of decency because I swear to God, what's that jiggly thing moving? What? That'll be gone soon. So nobody better ask me that ever again. Okay, the next person says, when I was in the ER, someone had passed away down the hall.

I didn't know this, and while the doctor was talking, there was a sound of someone wailing in the background. The doctor said, sorry, we have a death, but my dumb ass said, but my dumb ass thought she said death. I was wildly confused why the doctor would say that.

And then I simply replied with, oh, that's lovely. She then gave me the most judgmental expression that I've ever seen and immediately left the room. I asked my mom what the doctor said, thinking that I must have misheard her. And my mom told me she had said death, not deaf. That doctor refused to come back to the room. I had to ask the nurse to tell her I misheard her and eventually it was sorted out.

But I felt so embarrassed and absolutely awful. No, because that is like unhinged when it's like death. Like that was about death. And you were being sarcastic. Like, oh, that's lovely. Like that's, oh, that's lovely. Um, I don't even know how she said it. But like, I have been wildly humiliated about like, things that I said that I shouldn't have said that were like, sound stupid, or like ignorant or whatever. So like, I can't imagine this where like the doctor was refusing to come back

in, like, I, and I laughed, like, that's funny to me. And are we talking about about like you saying stuff like indicted or um that would make me feel dumb but like there's been times where like people have said something and I'm like like just like knee jerk reaction said something or like I didn't get the joke and so like I said I don't know I don't and I just like think about it for like a long time like a really long time. It's like not a proper response to like what you probably said. For example, like most recently, when I had Colleen Hoover on Barely Famous, and we were talking about one of the books that she wrote and I was like, it's so fucked up.

Like I shouldn't have said that out loud because I don't know that she like, like I don't know if she knew that like, I meant that it was like so fucked up have said that out loud because I don't know that she like like I don't know if she knew that like I Meant that it was like so fucked up and twisted that I fucking loved it But like also it's like weird to say that you love something that's so fucked up You don't mean like it's weird to say like oh my god five stars. I fucking loved it It's so sick and then in twisted and I loved it like that's weird It's like oh, I really liked it But like it's so fucked up and I I still think about it to this day like what was she what was going through? Her head when I said that was she thinking that I didn't like it was she thinking I was like, Oh, I really liked it, but like it's so fucked up. And I still think about it to this day.

Like what was she, what was going through her head when I said that? Was she thinking that I didn't like it? Was she thinking I was like, I don't know. So I still have anxiety about it. And you're probably going to think about it for the rest of my life. Next forever. Yeah. 100%.

I hope that she'll come back and I can like explain myself, but I don't know. Same. I hope that I honestly hope that she comes back and you get to do an interview if there is a movie made. It starts with us. Oh, also Verity. Verity is going to be a movie too. So I think that that would be a great follow-up. Not that I'm trying to take over your fucking business or anything. And on that note, thank you guys for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple podcast app following right on Spotify or listen

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