Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - American Nightmare, Ariana Grande Speaks Out & Tacky or Not Tacky?

Episode Date: June 27, 2024

CC358: Lindsie and Kail continue to speak about the gender pay gap among athletes and finally share their thoughts on American Nightmare. Ariana Grande speaks out about her time on Nickelodeon, a couple wants to know if their request is tacky, and Foul Play gives us a 2-in-1 scenario we all hate. out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsors! Apartments: Visit Apartments.com, a place to find a placeKiwico: Get 20% off on your Summer Adventure Series at kiwico.com/summercoffeeNurx: Thanks to Nurx for sponsoring this podcast! Taking control of your reproductive health starts here. Go to nurx.com/coffee to get started. Results may vary. Not offered in every state. Medications prescribed only if clinically appropriate, consultation requireRocket Money: Manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/COFFEECONVOSWayfair: Visit Wayfair.com or get the Wayfair mobile app

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convo's with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels, Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family,

and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsey. Good morning, Coffee Con. How are you today? I am well. I'm in Mexico actually. Oh, what part of Mexico are you in? In Cancun. Oh, period. Okay. Well, I hope that you're having the best time. I'm in hell in case you're reading. I might have seen it on Instagram, but I didn't hear it from you.

Yeah. So I just last minute, literally, this is so unlike me, but I've been doing this for probably like the last six months. I'll just like book a last minute something like go to a cabin, go to Mexico, flee the United States. Yeah, I love that for you. That's what I decided to do. I'm pretty sure that we made our arrangements on Thursday and left on Saturday morning. Had to get up at 3.30 in the morning.

I don't know what it is if it's just like I'm aging, but I can't hang like I used to be able to hang. Absolutely not. You got to go to bed too? I'm in bed as soon as my babies hit their cribs. I'm in bed. What time is that? Well, so Rio goes around 730. Sometimes we can stretch him till eight, but usually it's like 730. And then the twins are right there behind him because it takes more time to get them

in bed. So we put Rio to bed first and then do the twins. So last night the twins were in bed at eight and I was like, wow, what am I going to do? Because I was still kind of wired from the caffeine that I drank. So I was like, I'm going to regret this in the morning. And I do like look at me right now. Caffeine does not do that to me. I don't know if it's caffeine or not, but. Bitch will be drinking a Coke at midnight and I will still sleep like a baby. Yeah. I don't, I say it's caffeine, but I also like, I just drink an Elani. I could go take a nap right now. So I don't know. I don't actually know. That's one thing that I'm sad about.

I did not bring any Elanis on this trip. So I have been a little bit on the struggle bus in the morning cause I'm off my regular routine, but I do have a Mexican Coke. So. Well, I love that for you. Speaking of sleep, I need to update you on the dad that drugged the kids

at the sleepover. Okay. Tell me. So he pled guilty. There's a TikTok right here. Kristen, do you want to play the TikTok? Yeah. I get my news from TikTok now, I guess. They just do a more interesting job than like the actual news channel when creators get on and like summarize the shit for you. So... Yeah. But if you're following a creator that can be trusted. Oh, of course. Right. And also don't trust me because I'm, I'll butcher it. So I have to get it from this creator. While there's finally an update in this case, do you remember 57

year old father Michael Maiden? He's the guy whose 12 year old daughter had a sleepover with three friends and he spiked their smoothies with benzodiazepines. If you didn't see my original video about this, you can click on the comment that says update and it'll take you back. So basically his 12 year old daughter wanted to have a sleepover. So she had three friends over and he made them all a smoothie and the girls noticed that they had little white specks in them, but they didn't really think anything of it. So the girls drank them.

Except one girl didn't like her. So he made her another one and encouraged her to drink it. The girls apparently all felt woozy, hot, and clumsy and ended up going to sleep. Now the one girl who didn't really drink her smoothie, she was able to stay awake and she noticed that he made several trips down to the basement where they were sleeping to check on them. He even at one point put his finger under one of the girls noses to make sure she was breathing. She sent a very frantic message to her mother, pretty much begging to be picked up saying that she doesn't feel safe. All of the parents ended up coming to pick up their daughters.

And at first he tried to refuse to let them go saying that they were asleep and they could go home in the morning. But the moms took their kids and they went straight to the ER where the girls all tested positive for Benzos. He was arrested and charged with several felonies. So here's the update. He had court on June 10th and he pleaded guilty to spiking their drinks.

He ended up getting charged with three felony counts of forcing a person to ingest a controlled substance and was sentenced to two years in prison. And the reason he gave the court for doing what he did was he just wanted them to go to bed by 11. According to his attorney, he's remorseful and apologetic and really regrets what he did was he just wanted them to go to bed by 11. According to his attorney, he's remorseful and apologetic and really regrets what he did. He said that everything that was once important in his life is now pretty much gone. I'm not sure the sentence was harsh enough.

What do you guys think? What do you guys think? What do you think, Lindsey Chrisley? I think that the sentence was absolutely not harsh enough. And do I believe that he gave them, like he went all the way out of his way to make these smoothies so they would go to bed by 11? Well, these girls were old enough to be told that they need to go to bed by 11. They didn't need to be drugged in order for them to do that. So I don't believe that at all. Also, I believe that he took somewhat responsibility so that he could get a lesser sentence.

Which is foul because you shouldn't get off the hook a little bit just because you literally traumatize these girls and their parents. I don't have any work. I actually feel horrible for these girls. And I would love to know where the daughter is, where his own daughter is because she has to live with this for the rest of her life. I know how it feels firsthand to be afraid of being looked at based on how my mother was. That was one of my biggest fears growing up was people aren't going to want me around because of who my mom is.

I can't imagine what that little girl probably feels right now. You also have to think about the generational stuff that that places on people because this happened to these girls at a sleepover. Now think about them becoming mothers, if that's what they choose to do and how they're going to feel about their kids having sleepovers. Yeah, I agree. I just, I can't, I just needed to update you cause I remember you telling me about this story, so I didn't know if you had seen it since you're on vacation,

but I was like, what in the fuck is going on? I, he deserves to rot in hell truly. How did people get two years for something like that? But then you got other people out here that get charged with like financial crimes and shit and go to prison for a decade. No, it doesn't make sense. It does not make sense at all. It really bothers me and irks my nerve. Yeah. No, it irks. I just think that the whole system is flawed. I really believe that because he traumatized these people for life. People who do financial crimes most likely are not

traumatizing others in the process. You said it. I didn't. So, here we are. I mean, maybe. I don't know. The book I'm reading right now, actually, the mom goes to jail for embezzlement is what I'm reading right now. Oh, wow. Yeah. And she leaves. Actually, the book is very similar because she has to leave. The dad died. She's going to prison for six years for embezzling money, and she has to leave, the dad died. She's going to prison for six years for embezzling money and she has to leave all of the siblings with the oldest son. So very similar situation.

And again, six years is crazy. But okay, moving on. You got something else to tell me about? Well, so you opened the can of worms of the WNBA conversation. I went to Forbes.com and I'm looking at wage gaps and gender pay gap statistics. Women in average, I don't remember how much we went into detail on this, but women in general make 16% less than men on average. So women earn about 84 cents for every dollar that a man makes. Right. So I wanted to take that a step further and also include that women of color are among the lowest paid workers in rural areas. Latinas are compensated just 55% of what non-Hispanic white men are paid in 2024. And then black women are paid 64% of what non-Hispanic

white men are paid. So I just wanted to say that this system is so flawed. And I wanted to read some of those statistics because I feel like we can't discuss just Caitlin Clark without also acknowledging some other discrepancies. And it made me really upset because I'm thinking like, why we think that we made it so far in 2024. Like how many times have we all said like, oh, it's 20 foot 24. We're not doing this. We're not doing that. It should be this. It should be that. And then you look at stuff like this on, and I can have Kristen share the article or we can share the article to our stories, but we still have so fucking far to go. And I just don't know how do people like us bring more awareness to these situations because this isn't okay.

Not that our conversation on Coffee Convo's podcast is going to change a wage gap by any means, but I just feel like having conversation and making people aware because I don't think the average person is aware. This article says for every dollar earned by men, women earn 84 cents. And while that's not a huge gap, why is there a gap? Well, that's what I'm, I guess that's what I'm getting at. And then just to take it a step further and you know, other like black women, Hispanic women just and then it actually mentions um Native American women are typically only paid 59 cents for every dollar paid to to white non-Hispanic men. So a 20 year old woman just started full-time year-round work stands to lose $407,000 over a 40 year career compared to her male counterpart and I just wish that there was more that we can do.

And I think that the only thing, maybe one of the only things that we can do to help bring awareness is post, you know, articles surrounding this topic to get other people to really open their eyes. Because truly until you open the conversation about the wage gap in WNBA versus NBA, I kind of knew that women were always paid less and then... But not paid less. Yeah, I just didn't know that it was as deep as it goes. You know what I mean? And I think that there's more conversations to be had here. And I wish that I knew more. I wish I knew more in

advance because we could have been talking about this kind of like over the course of the years. But this actually has like jobs with the smallest gender pay gap. It also includes jobs with the largest gender pay gap, which is real estate brokers and sales agents, personal financial advisors, insurance, sales, inspectors, recreation workers, insurance. Those are some of the jobs that have like the biggest gender pay gap. And then the ones that have some of the smaller ones are physical therapists, bartenders, spec ed teachers, cashiers, maids and housekeeping. There's no rhyme or reason. Some of those statistics could be skewed a little bit because most of those are predominantly women. Like jobs.

So yeah, that's a really good point. So that also, how can you really have the correct data here if you, if it's not really a male dominated industry, right? Like nursing assistants, social workers, those are, I mean, most, all the ones that have the smallest gender pay gaps are predominantly women ran. Yeah, no, that I mean, it's absolutely crazy. And I think it's it's way bigger than the WNBA. But I think that that just brought awareness to me when I started reading some of that stuff. It made me absolutely furious

because you have like, you have a man out here making millions and millions and millions of dollars to her $76,000, I think is what it was. And while she's still going to have opportunities for brand deals and you know, partnerships and you know, could end up being a spokesperson for something, that's all good and great, but the men that are in the MBA are also having those opportunities on top of what they're being paid. Agreed.

So I'm gonna post this article on my personal Instagram, as well as Kristen can share it to the Coffee Convo's one, but I definitely wanna just keep this conversation going over the next several months, and if not indefinitely, just because I feel like maybe other people, if I didn't know, if you didn't know, maybe there are several others that didn't realize how deep this goes. If you need birth control, I know someone who might be able to help. And I am talking about our next sponsor, Nurex. If you have not heard of them, their licensed medical providers possess in depth knowledge and are there to

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was 1000% an inside job and it makes me sick to my fucking stomach that nobody involved in this case was charged or looked at. It's very, very alarming and I wonder how common this actually happens. The thing that stuck out to me the most was the fact of his education. A lawyer, Lindsay? Like what? A lawyer, yes. Ex-military lawyer. And didn't he like go to an Ivy League school or something? Like he was a Harvard grad or something. Yeah and he was a peeping tom and for people in his neighborhood.

peeping Tom, like at what point of your life? Is that something that you've always kind of been from like childhood and then it just gets like worse? I don't know because I'm not I haven't really heard of any child like peeping. Like I can't remember any cases of that really that I've heard. What really freaks me out is that there are people out here in this world that know how to contact people on the black market and the dark web. I still have a really hard time wrapping my head around the fact that those things exist because you and I, regular everyday people, don't have...

We can't go on the dark... We don't know how to get to the dark web. We don't know how to get to the dark web. We don't know how to hire somebody for hit. Like we don't know how to, who hired this man to put a hit out on Andrea, Andrea, Andrea, and literally was like, this was meant for somebody else. Like who knew to contact this like person to do these things?

You know what I mean? And it was clear that he had done it before, but then also for the law enforcement to blame the victims without and we hear about this so often, I feel it's like, nobody in their right mind is making up this crazy story about strobe lights and fucking wetsuits and goggles and having identical stories. Right. Like if you're that big of a liar and you can like can cocked some lie like that about, I mean, how would you even think that in your mind? Like, oh,

hey, I'm going to lie about this person, like making me wear a wetsuit and goggles. It's one of those things that it's so crazy. It has to be true. And obviously, we know that people tell elaborate stories, right? And like, when you start adding, like all the dramatics and the effects, and like, it's this crazy, elaborate, detailed story, you're like, okay, wait, we need to, like, style this back and like restart because you want to catch people up in lies, right? But this is like, two people are telling identical stories. And it's so crazy

that you're like, nobody could have made this up, right? Like if someone gets, if someone is doing like a kidnapping hoax, they're not going to add a scuba set, goggles with blinders, a strobe light, like they're not adding those details. So to get blamed by the general public also, and then the law enforcement is crazy and none of them got charged. And truly $2.5 million was not enough for them to settle. I would have said, I would have taken nothing less than five or $10 million because now your people will always believe to this day that it was made up. You know what I mean? Like no matter how much you rectify what was done or try to like fix the situation,

there will always be people that believed it was a hoax. There will always be people. And so for that, what the fuck? So I was actually thinking about this, you know, sometimes in like settlement statements when you're involved in like a lawsuit or something like that, that if they find guilt on the opposing party,

somebody has to go out and make some type of like public statement or whatever. I feel like law enforcement should have been made to do a press conference and acknowledge the fact that they actually were the liars and the hoaxers. I agree. I think that they owed her a like both of them and an ins like she they should have begged for forgiveness. That's so embarrassing. And the fact that they didn't follow up on any leads and if it wasn't for the woman that was in, I think it was Las Vegas or whatever

state she was in, Nevada, if it wasn't for her doing her due diligence as an officer where she was at, none of this would have even, they would have probably been charged for this hoax that they didn't commit, which is crazy. It's so crazy. And I will say that this documentary, whatever we're calling it, was it like a documentary or society? Yeah.

I feel like they did a really good job of convincing me along the way of it being the boyfriend, then it being her. I was on a cliffhanger until I found out exactly who it was and the fact that they found him. Crazy thing is that he had like many other victims for a long time. Because I think I think it was a combination of him doing it on his own, but also people started hiring him. And let's not forget that he wasn't alone either. So he there was other people

involved. And he literally tells Denise at one point, they're not as nice as I am. But are we thinking that that's actually real because I think that's where you and I are. That other people were involved? I don't know 100% if other people were involved. But she says that she remembers maybe they don't know the extent of what he was doing because she says that she there was an exchange of cars. Yeah, like she went from one trunk to another. So maybe that there's like parts that we that they didn't really elaborate on the whole idea that you can just like hire someone to do that.

Like that sounds so crazy because aren't you scared that they're going to snitch? Like aren't you scared that like it's all a scam? I'm just saying that I don't trust anybody enough to be involved with somebody like that, to do something like that with somebody. Not saying that I would ever do it, because I wouldn't. But if I was going to, it would be like a one man job. I just, and then the officer that was an investigator on the case was not removed from the from the case, because they said that it was not a conflict of

interest. But he the law enforcement officer, the detective was dating Andrea, Andrea, who was Aaron's ex fiance. So I thought in my head that he hired this person who is ex ex military ex lawyer, all of those things who had a history of peeping Tom and things like that. He hired him to do it to Andrea and then turned around and did it to the wrong people. And nobody got charged. Like, are you fucking kidding me? I don't know how shit like this happens. And nobody gets reprimanded. Nobody gets anything. It's truly mind blowing. The only people that lost in this situation and a lot of people say, oh, well, it's fine because they got paid $2.5 million. $2.5 million doesn't erase

the trauma that was involved in this entire situation. I mean, this girl was raped multiple times. Also, after taxes and lawyer fees and whatever else that she, the lawyer fees alone plus taxes and everything else, they also had to move. They moved to the coast to get away from wherever they were where all of this took place. So all of that costs money. And I don't know if you realize how expensive it is to live in California, but they didn't end up with much. There's no way.

And I could be wrong, but I don't know if they would have to pay taxes on that money because it's like if you're in a car accident or something and you get paid a certain amount of money for pain and suffering. Oh, so you don't have to pay taxes on it? Taxes on that because that's not, I mean, yes. Is it a form of income? Yes, but you don't pay taxes on that. Really? Yeah. Ask Kristin. I'm almost positive. I'm thinking that this was some type of settlement by the state. I would believe that they would not be taxed on this.

Okay. Even if they're not taxed, they still have to move in the state of California, which is an arm and a leg, and their lawyer fees. And they both had their own individual lawyers. So when you have to move in the state of California plus lawyer fees, I mean, you're left with nothing. Living in California, I'm pretty sure that $2.5 million is not going to get you very far for a long period of time. No, absolutely not. The house alone that they moved to, probably the down payment was severe because I don't know any houses. I just can't. The whole thing, when I watched it from start

to finish, was like, what is going on? How does this happen? Like what? And also this? I mean, the guy who did it must have known what he was doing to blackout goggles and things like that, and like make her wear them and then like, essentially coerced her. He raped her those what he did was rape, but he tried to do it in a way that like made him a good guy. And it's just like, what the fuck? That was what was so weird to me. And immediately, I mean, you would have to have some type of mental stuff going on to even think about doing an act like this, right? But the level of follow

through but then his like, he did this heinous thing to her, but then he tries to play a good guy. Mentally, something's going on there. Possibly multiple personality. I'm not sure. I think it said that he had been diagnosed with bipolar or something like that, but that doesn't excuse the fact of the heinous shit that he did. I am convinced that there was never another man that was going to rape her that it was just something like part of his like spiel. I agree. I agree with that. I just was like, actually someone that follows me on Instagram was the one who recommended this to me because I hadn't heard of it. So when I started listening

to it or not listening to it, when I started watching it, I was like, Oh, Lindsay is going to have a field day with this one. Oh God. I couldn't stop watching. I watched, I think it was three episodes. I watched all of them in one sitting. I couldn't stop watching. I watched, I think it was three episodes. I watched all of them in one sitting. I couldn't stop. Because I was convinced every episode it was like a different fucking person. Yeah.

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associated with the family in some way on the resort, and he's always been a suspect in her disappearance. Christian was a German voice actor and known pedophile, and he moved to Portugal in his teens. That was sort of around where the family was vacationing, right? In Portugal. He's been convicted of crimes like burglary, theft, and sex offenses. And I guess there's some sort of nomadic community. And I put a bunch of question marks because I don't know exactly what that means. But that's where Christian had shared with somebody else on the resort that he was planning to kidnap a child from a rich family. And I guess that there is like big evidence that he's not only a suspect, but I think that he is the reason, the person who is in fact responsible. Like, I think there's reason to believe that he's more

than just like a suspect at this point. Like he probably is the one that did it. And I was disgusted because I didn't know who he was and why he wasn't already locked up if he was a known pedophile. I mean, you've got to think about this dad that we were just talking about putting bentos and his daughters and friends smoothies. He's only going to prison for two years. This guy could just be on a sex registry list and then just like out here rolling the fuck around nomads are communities who move from place to place as a way of obtaining food finding pasture for livestock or otherwise making a living. Most nomadic groups follow a fixed annual or seasonal pattern of movements and settlements nomadic people traditionally traveled by animal canoe or on foot. Yeah. So he shared with someone, someone he trusted enough to

tell, oh, I'm going to steal a kid from a rich family. And I mean, you can't say, Oh, I just said that and then somebody goes missing, but it like wasn't me. I can't mean coincidences and shit do happen. But like to that, to that degree, no. And the fact of I hate to say judging people by their past, but the the math maths. Yeah, I mean, you're a known pedophile. You're you share that you have plans. I can't I can't get behind that. Another update that I have. This is the last update I have for this episode

is that so one small update is that Quiet on Set that we covered about Nickelodeon and Dan Schneider was the most streamed title on streaming platforms with over 1 billion minutes of streaming time. And Ariana Grande finally responded to what happened. And she basically says that she's still kind of resolving her relationship with it, but that when she looked back, some of the sexual innuendos were obviously uncomfortable. But at the time, when you're a child star, she talks about, you know, when you're a performer, you're waiting for those laughs, you're waiting for those encouragements and, you know, adults that you trust to say things to you. And so

you're not thinking of it in that way. But I'll let Kristin play the video so that you can see like her full. And I think that she maybe wasn't necessarily prepared to answer the question because she could tell that she's thinking about it and she wants to be politically correct. I'm sure. I don't know what podcast this was. I've come forward and there's not a word for how devastating that is to hear about. And so I think the environment just needs to be made a lot safer all around. I'm still in real time reprocessing my relationship to it. There's also a strange pattern that occurs where it's really taken advantage of how much it means to the young performer to get a laugh from video village.

You're like, oh shit, like, I'm doing something great. Like, this is funny. This is good. Speaking specifically about our show, I think that was something that we were convinced was like the cool thing about us is that like we pushed the envelope with our humor and the innuendos were like, we were told and convinced as well that it was like the cool differentiation. And I don't know, I think it just all happened so quickly. And now looking back on some of the clips, I'm like, that's damn, like really? Yeah. Oh, there's a bottom line. And then the things that weren't approved for the network

were snuck onto like our website or whatever it was. And that is another discovery. But I'm going into it. I guess I'm upset. But you know, I think there should be therapists. I think there should be parents allowed to be wherever they want to be. I'm glad that this conversation is happening here and also in the world because it's also just kind of a cultural shift that's happening.

It's changing. And I think that's a really nice place to see the world in unison standing in a place where we're like, that's changing. That's unacceptable. I agree with her take on that wholeheartedly. In that documentary, there's no telling how many children were abused to some degree that have just not come forward. That is really, really sad. I also wholeheartedly agree that any person that is on TV, whether you're a child or an adult, and I've said this since I was

on Chris Lee Knows Best, that you should have access to therapists because the amount of damage that is done, you can't go back and fix it. It's years. People are like, oh, well, you make great money. Yeah, you make great money, but then you also have a lot of shit that you're carrying in your satchel now that you weren't carrying before. Well, I think it's interesting too, because in my experience, it wasn't something that was automatically offered to you. You have to be having a mental breakdown and ask for it. And I know that scripted and reality are very different, but it wasn't like it wasn't for reality. In my experience with reality TV, it wasn't like, oh, we know that you're a child. We know that you're a minor, so we're going to offer you these things in conjunction with being on this series, right? Because again, I'm assuming that these

young children probably didn't have a whole lot of media training, especially back then, because there wasn't interviews and things weren't the same as they are today with social media and things like that. And so I think it was probably very different. Maybe they didn't do, I don't know, did they do press tours? Did they do things like this? Did they, you know what I mean? And I also don't think that our eyes were really open. So were they offered based on what she said, I don't think that they were offered therapists right off the bat. I don't know if it was a situation like mine, where it was like you are in the middle of a mental breakdown asking for therapy, asking for help. They don't just offer it

to you. So that's, you know, I think moving forward, when we're talking about minors and TV, I do think that there is a world where we could make it healthier and it be different. I do think that there is a world for that. I think without having responsible people in production and executives, that's not gonna happen. So as long as these executives that are going, as long as they're benefiting in some way, I don't think they care, but you know, I do think-

I don't think they care at all. Did they ever offer you like or Jackson any sort of like resources and things like that? No, not at all. No, no resources whatsoever. There's a lot of things that happen in that short amount of time and and that was going on when I was an adult. So I say that I couldn't imagine being a child in the situation that some of these Nickelodeon stars were in, that they truly can't advocate for themselves and not that they would even know how to advocate for themselves, right? Like how do you even know what to ask

for and what is needed? And you're exactly right about these executives, TV execs, they're worried about one thing, they're worried about their network and they're worried about the bottom dollar and you know what that's so I get that right? like I don't want to say that that's okay, but You can be worried about the network and get what you want and you can also not be a fucking slimeball, right? Like There's a place where these things can Simultaneously coexist you could worry about your can worry about the bottom dollar while also still wearing There's a place where these things can simultaneously coexist. You can worry about your, you can worry about the bottom dollar while also still worrying about your cast and your crew.

And being a good fucking human. Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can it be all of the above? Like have a good show, but also because here's the thing, there's this model that a friend of mine, I've known him for 10 years, right? He used to work for this business. I'm pretty sure I've talked about it before where he worked for this company that made sure all of the employees were really, really happy at their jobs, right? Like they had a gym at the offices so that if you have to get to work a little bit earlier to go work out, they treated all

of their employees really well, good benefits. They matched prices for people's children to go to daycare because if you have to come to work and you have to have daycare, they'll match a certain percentage of the daycare costs. There was a lot of things that they did to help support the employees to make them want to come to work every day and also so they don't have to go home and like, unpack all of the work stress and stuff and bring that home with them. Right. And so like, I understand

not all things can work that way. It's this is life, life is not fair, I get that. But at the point that these are children, we have to be careful, right? Like, why? And I'm not saying it didn't happen with Disney. But what was Disney's model? Like, I would be curious to hear from people like Miley Cyrus or you know people that were on Disney versus Nickelodeon. Did they have the same were they like exploit because I don't remember seeing those types of things on Disney. I mean, I don't want to sound ignorant when I say this, but I think that Disney was so far ahead from Nickelodeon.

I was a Nickelodeon watcher over Disney. Yeah. I just think as a company and as a brand, then that Disney probably was so far ahead of anything that Nickelodeon was doing. I'm sure they crossed their T's and dotted their I's very differently than the way Nickelodeon did. That's just a speculation. Maybe there'll be a documentary that comes out about Disney. I don't know.

I don't think there will be. You don't think so? No. I think if Disney did any sort of things like this, I think it will always remain skeletons in the closet. Why do you say that? I think Disney is a whole other ball game, ball field. I don't know. I just, I don't see anyone from Disney like speaking up and speaking out the way that people from Nickelodeon did.

I just don't, I don't know why. I will tell you this one time, and again, I can't imagine being a child on TV because I wasn't, I was an adult by the time I was on TV. But I had this one situation to where I needed medical attention. And I was denied medical attention and told to put my head between my legs and drink water and that I was just having a panic attack and I was diagnosed with a panic attack by a producer. So if that happened to you as an adult and you were a very young adult.

Yeah. That's insane. Like, imagine what kids have been. That's why I'm saying I believe absolutely there is no doubt in my mind that this stuff actually happened. Because I know the small little things that happened in a small amount of time that I was on TV. It just makes me sad because I feel like when you attach your name to something like this, it makes me sad because what if this blacklists them from getting other jobs, right?

Almost like a whistle. They're almost like whistleblowing, right, to a situation. But is anyone else going to hire them for speaking their truth and what happened to them as a child? Will anyone else hire any of these people that were on Quiet On Set? And why didn't, if Ariana Grande, obviously I'm not judging her, she has to make the decisions that are best for her. I'm just asking. Why couldn't she participate in the documentary as well? I mean, I don't know and I don't want to necessarily speculate, but everybody's healing journey looks very different and maybe some people were more ready than others and maybe

she's speaking to what she's comfortable with right now. And I think that a lot of people would say that same thing of what you just said, but we have to be mindful that, you know, if someone's been through a trauma, you can't decide when they're going to be comfortable enough to share all the intricate details of that trauma. And so that could very well be why she didn't, or I mean, I don't know. When was this filmed? Like she could have been on tour. Who knows?

Yeah. I don't know. I hope that anyone who was on quite on set that wants to continue to pursue acting and things like that. I hope that they don't get blacklisted because they did that. I, I agree. And that is always the risk that you run, but that's not just TV, that's regular jobs too. I mean, that is a risk that you're taking that,

oh shit, I'm gonna go out here and say the actual truth for what it is and the thoughts that you could literally just remove yourself from an entire industry of everything that you know and all you know, because you told the truth. That fucking sucks. That sucks. That really sucks. Okay, so Corey and I are mid packing

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scrolling on Facebook and I was like, Oh, wow, bride and groom slammed over tacky requests on wedding invitations. So embarrassing. An engaged couple have sparked outrage after including a tacky detail on their wedding invitation. The bride-to-be and her fiance have been together for six years, have a three-year-old and already established a life together before marriage. So instead of wedding gifts, the couple preferred a money fund for their honeymoon. We just skipped around with this steps and left getting married last so we don't need wedding gifts.

The bride wrote on a popular Facebook group and shared a draft of the invite. The request read, in lieu of traditional wedding gifts, the bride and groom have asked for gifts to their honeymoon fund. What do you think? I don't care.

I don't care. But most people, so you have a bridal shower for like the home items or whatever it is that you have on your registry towels, whatever, say you're a new couple and you're going to live together, whatever. Okay. So there are like the items. And then if you are going to a wedding, the proper etiquette would be to pay for, give the monetary gift of whatever you think that your plate was, right? So you're paying for your plate. I usually, unless I know more, would say like $100, maybe $200 per person, depending on where the venue is,

who the couple is, et cetera. I don't see anything wrong with this. They're non-traditional. They already have kids. They already have the house. Who cares? If that's what they're asking as the gift, weren't you going to spend money on them anyway? Why does it matter if you get them an actual item or cash versus, you know what I mean? I think that I don't know why people would be upset about this. Quite honestly, I think it's a really good idea if they're having this wedding and they have friends and family that are coming to this wedding and they want a honeymoon, but they might not have saved for the expense for the honeymoon and they want assistance with that.

I think that's the same thing now. We're making these Amazon wish lists and whatever for our kids for Christmas or birthday parties or whatever. I absolutely hate going to a child's birthday party and not having a clickable Amazon wish list. I want to get them something that I know that they're going to like and love and they're going to play with and they have a desire for that or I'm not buying like a duplicate thing that they already have, right? So I'm a big fan of people saying exactly what it is that they want.

I agree. I also think the only people that would get mad at this are cheap people. And I don't mean cheap because I understand the economy the way it is. But I'm saying like, the people that are nickel and diming for every fucking thing. You don't show up to a wedding empty handed, period. If you go without a gift or monetary like gift, you don't have to go to a wedding at all. And I understand that, you know, times are hard out there. Right. I don't go to the wedding, then literally say no to the invitation.

But why is it fair for you to be participating in the wedding, even as a guest eating what they had to pay for? Because they're coming out of pocket for you? Why is it fair? I'm annoyed that people were annoyed by this. If you don't have the funds for a gift, some of the comments, okay, let's hear them. Don't ask for money or gifts. There is no non tacky way to ask for money or gifts. The end. No, you don't show up to a wedding empty handed period. So that shouldn't even been have been in. Why can't we have a conversation about this?

Like what? It's so crazy. Somebody else said, it's so easy to ask for money though, without being tacky. You either don't make a registry and all people will read between the lines or you make a registry that has like two things

you actually need on it. My registry, if this was me, my registry would just look like this. Amazon gift card, Amazon gift card, Amazon gift card, Visa gift card, Amazon gift card, Visa gift card, right? I cannot. I had another one. Are you the type of person for your kids? People come to a birthday party. Do you prefer for people to bring like a gift that your kids can immediately play with

or do you prefer them to bring like a Visa, Amazon, I don't know, gift card? I prefer just to give them cash or gift card because. I agree. I don't know what you want. And I hate when people I used to think that gift cards were like thoughtless. But now the older I get, the more practical they are. I don't want to spend money on something that kids don't want. Right? Like, and I don't

know how the parents feel. Or like, do you want them to have more toys that make noise that they don't even play with? I don't know. You know what I mean? Well, so I was having a conversation with one of my girlfriends the other day and she was like, I struggle so much with this because when the girls have a birthday party, I want them to have something that they can open. And I would really prefer for myself as their mother to get the gift cards because then I can kind of decide what it is they're going to get or they have an opportunity to like

pick. Yeah. I prefer that, but they also need something to open. And my suggestion to her was why don't you get like the tangible gift that they can open and then just have the conversation with your kids like hey, most people are probably going to be bringing you gift cards and that's going to be another day that we get to have fun because you're going to get to spend your gift cards right? Yeah, yeah. Like I think it's so much more practical and I used to be the exact same

way as you like, I don't want to be the person that shows up with like the envelope with just the gift card in it because everybody else is going to have like a cute wrapped gift, whatever. But really, in all reality, most of the time, it just creates a disaster for the parents because they end up having to like return stuff. And it's just a disaster. So gift card is the way to go. Have you ever needed to like, did you ever get invited to like something that was like last minute? Like the whole party was last minute, right? And they're like, Oh, I'm going to quickly put this together and you should come at this time and whatever. And you're like, I don't have time to go get a gift. And so you have

to go to the dollar store. Wait, what? Have you ever done that? No. For that, that has happened to me. And wait, what did you buy at the dollar store? puzzles? Oh, dear God. But I mean, it was it. I mean, it was like a three year old. So it was fine. But it sucked because I'm like, this was last minute. What am I supposed to do? And I felt bad showing up empty handed. And of course, I went to the one fucking dollar store that doesn't have gift cards. Oh my god. I always my Don't invite me to your don't invite my kids to your birthday party because

because he was going to the dollar store. Actually funny story about the dollar store, Jackson and I were riding down the road the other day and we'd gone to Chipotle for lunch and Target and Dick's Sporting Goods, all these things. By the way, my No Technology summer is going phenomenal. Highly recommend this. What? When were you doing that? Do what?

I didn't know you were doing that. Oh yeah, tech-free summer. Yeah. Like you and Jackson or just Jackson? Oh no yeah. Tech-free summer. Yeah. Like, you and Jackson or just Jackson? Oh, no, I can't do it. Because of like, what would I do? Not being on my phone or not being on my computer? Like, I can't research like random shit. Just applying to him. Okay. I wish that was the case. If I could have a completely tech free summer and just like go off the map and be a nomad, like that would be absolutely wonderful. But he's had no phone since school got out, no tablet since school got out. And the conversations that I've been able to have

with him would have never happened had he had his phone because he'll just be riding down the road on the phone, whatever. So pulling to get gas the other day when we're out running errands and he's like, Hey mom, do you know that dollar store is closing like 1000 stores across the United States because they're probably going to go bankrupt because Amazon is just going to take us all out. We should all be on the lookout. I don't know if that's true. What dollar store are we talking about? Because they put up dollar generals around here every fucking mile. So within my dollar store, our dollar general

and dollar tree are two different companies. They're not going out of business. We have them everywhere. We have them everywhere. Both of them. Dollar general. We have general was in trouble for scamming people too, because they would be actually taking money. I'm pretty sure it was Dollar General. Dollar Tree and Dollar General, they're all over the place over here. Let me look up. Okay. Dollar Tree. Oh, Family Dollar and Dollar Tree will close, literally CNN. Family Dollar and Dollar Tree will close 1,000 stores. So he wasn't lying to me. Well, I could walk to dollar family dollar.

It says years of mismanagement and poor conditions and stores have hurt family dollars brand. The family dollar, which is owned by Dollar Tree, was recently fined more than 40 million dollars for rat infestation at a warehouse that forced hundreds of stores to temporarily close. Decade high inflation has hit shoppers hard and general consumer pullback has impacted family dollar customers and the chain's profits. So he's not lying. Oh, I didn't think he was lying. I just think that it's possible that they're doing that and they're still not really going to because they're everywhere. I mean, they're putting a new one up right by my house. I don't understand it.

What are you with the Dollar General buying? I guess puzzles for birthday parties. I don't know. But the one right here, the family dollar, I could walk there and they have a full grocery aisle. They have milk, eggs, yeah. Do you get stuff there? Yes. I have never heard of such I didn't know that they carried shit like that. Oh my god, they carry name brand everything they have like, like I can go down there and go grab fucking hamburger helper. I can go get milk. I can go it's a full store like they have snacks like especially if we like randomly have a pool day where we're like maybe like the neighbors come over and stuff like that.

We'll run down to the store, like get all the chips, all the snacks. They have all kind of coffee creamer. They have like all the things. They have diapers. They have everything. What? Yeah. I think that I just go to the Dollar Tree.

So I feel actually when we get off this recording at some point today, I'm going to go I'll take a video at my dollar family dollar. Okay, please do. Um, I need to know if everybody else like shops at Family Dollar like this like kill because I just I don't understand. Yeah. Okay. And people would do you I mean, they if they've got like milk and shit that stuff goes bad pretty quickly. No, they sell out all the time, like all the fucking time. I have been in there and there's no because I live in a weird town. So it's like really small and it's like on like the outskirts skirts of like bigger towns. Yeah. So that's the only store that besides the country store, but the country store is like a gas station. So you can get like food in

there like fresh made goods or whatever. But like this one is like the only like convenience store outside of the dollar general. The dollar general is a little bit further. But family dollar, I could walk there right now. Are you going to? I'm going to take a video for you. I will literally get in my car and drive and take a video of the whole thing. So you can get a full picture of what it's like to live here.

One of the things that I'm really focusing on right now is becoming a minimalist because I'm tired of all the clutter and the junk in my house and I just want places that everything goes. I really want to like upgrade some of the pieces of furniture in my house, get some accessories, things like that, but have it look aesthetically pleasing and still be minimalist. And I'm absolutely turning to Wayfair because I love them and I get so many things in my house off of Wayfair. I'm on Wayfair probably, no joke, at least five times a week. I'm always on there. I'm scouting deals. I'm scouting sales. I'm seeing what's new. It's a fantastic website. I'm in my house frequently, especially because I work from home. So it is so important

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chat with our celebrity friends, and show you how to accept yourself without taking life too seriously. Get new episodes of tactful pettiness with me, Cody Rigsby, and me, Andrew Chappelle. celebrity friends and show you how to accept yourself without taking life too seriously. Get new episodes of Tackful Pettiness with me, Cody Rigsby, and me, Andrew Chappelle. Every Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and anywhere you get your podcasts. Stay petty bestie. Need to ask you about this because I was on the Facebook page and Just I don't know I couldn't sleep

so I was like randomly commenting back to to everyone about shit that they probably don't care about but Someone was like you and kale need to do a mom swap or whatever and we've been talking about this for years like ma'am Number one. I said I can't drive a suburban. So her kids are immediately like their safety is at risk That's number one number two. You have fucking seven kids. You're obviously gonna win the swap because I only have one. Well, so we can swap the oldest three or four for Jackson. That's still three more than what I'm swapping. Okay, we can swap Lux for Jackson and it's still more than

Jackson. So I was just like, what would this actually, I think it's a really funny idea. And I think it would be actually fantastic for everybody to consume. No, because I would want you to be so type A personality with them. Like I would need you to literally be Anal sterile like I need you to be type a so hard with them so that they can understand How it needs to be because I need I need help Do you want to be like that or I do because I do feel like there would be slightly less chaos and back talking in my house.

Oh, yeah. See, we don't do the we don't do the back talking. Yeah. So I just feel like if someone was to like, get him in line real quick, and they would be like, Oh, wow, like, we need to do better. Okay, we need to do some like role playing. Okay, if luck started coming at me the way he comes at you, I would say I don't know who the fuck you think you're talking to. But last time I checked your child and I'm an adult. So absolutely the fuck not. And you know what he would say because I have said that what he was saying, I don't know who you're talking to. But I'm an adult and you're a child.

Oh, like mocking you? And then Creed would laugh and then Creed would go, I don't know who you're talking to. And they just like, So, so you literally want to run away on a daily basis is what I'm hearing. I will walk to the family dollar to get items just to have a vacation. You know that whole shopping cart conversation? Yes, yes. I'm going to put the shopping cart away and I'm going to take longer than two minutes

just to be able to have to gain my composure back to take a few deep breaths to not hear mom, mom, mom. The latest thing right now is that Creed is like, so Creed will be like, I have these right here, right? Like, mom, can I have these? And Creed will be like, I have these right here, right? I'm like, mom, can I have these? And I'll be like, no, it's 9am. You can't have those. Mom, I'm talking to you. I just, I heard you.

I said, no, no, mom, I'm talking to you. And I'm like, Creed, I said, no, I heard you. And I said, no, but mom, I'm talking to you. Talking to me about what because the conversations over because I just fucking told your ass now. I think what he means is like, I think he's trying to convince like, like, mom, like, I think what he's trying to do is like convince me to say yes, but instead of being like, giving me reasons why he's telling me he's taught like, somebody help me,

somebody help me, somebody help me. He'll be like, wait, actually smart. Mom, I'm talking to you. And I'm like, I know I heard you. I said no. But mom, I'm talking to you. Maybe he is trying to get you to say yeah, so that he can take the fucking gummies and run. No, he cannot have them because Creed will eat junk all day long and never eat a meal.

So I can't allow that. It can't happen. It can't happen. Jackson used to be like that and drove me nuts. Thank God he has come out of some of that quirky eating stuff now. The child will pretty much eat anything. So there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Thank God. But those years that they want to eat nothing but junk and gummies and I'll eat like a little nibble of this bar and then I'm gonna eat a pack of gummies and then

I'm gonna get a chocolate milk. No, the hell you are. Well, Creed will be like, if I eat my whole banana, then can I have the candy? No. The answer is still no. No, because the banana doesn't like counteract like the sugar. Yeah, I don't know and summer's the worst like summer is the worst for that. Listen, are you guys going on any vacations over the summer? Yeah, well so Isaac, we're taking Isaac to Myrtle Beach the first week of July. Just Isaac? Just Isaac. Then we're going to farm camp, lacrosse camp, my hometown for a couple days.

And then I'm still working on Disney logistics. I don't know if that'll happen or not. Probably wait till the fall because I don't want to go in the summertime. It's just so hot. And I prefer going during the fall and winter months to Disney. I just feel like you get more of an experience. I mean, yeah, the rides are all the same, but the experience I just think is better. Yeah.

I don't want to worry about passing out because we're all overheated and just gross. Just, ugh, God, I hate to sweat. Okay. On that note, foul play. Foul play. I recently gave birth to my first son. My pregnancy was relatively smooth, aside from the complete loss of bladder control

and all day morning sickness. Around the second trimester, I was driving home from work, approximately 68 miles an hour in the middle of the lane of the highway. I suddenly got incredibly nauseous and there was no way for me to move over as I was surrounded by cars on both sides. I rolled down the window and tried to let the

cold air calm me down, but nothing would stop what was coming. I started to projectile vomit all over my dashboard, my steering wheel, and myself. And of course, as I was throwing up, I proceeded to pee my pants as well. My entire body was just leaking. I was crying, peeing and throwing up all at the same time while managing to continue flying down the highway. As I pulled into the driveway, I called my husband and asked him to bring out cleaning supplies, leave them next to my car, and just go inside.

I couldn't even stand to have him look at me. I was completely soaked, immediately cleaned my car, went inside, stripped down, and got in the shower. And from that point on, I worked from home for the rest of my pregnancy. Ma'am. What a clusterfuck. I feel so bad because I have also peed and throwed up at the same time, throwed up.

I've also peed and thrown up at the same time and just been like crying because it was absolute chaos. I could not imagine also driving at the same time. Yeah, I you know, I've never thought about like, possibly throwing up and driving in the car. But what that sounds like is I need to call Geico because I'm going to crash. I've thrown up in the car as like a passenger, but I've never thrown up in the car as the driver that I can think of. I kind

of pull over and grown up. How do you like fully clean up shit like that from a car? Baking soda maybe? Shampooing the carpet? I don't think the throw up smell you'd have to and I hope it wasn't the summertime because if it's the wintertime, at least you can keep your windows down to like try to like air air it out and clean it out and stuff. But if you have cloth seats or it's summertime or both. But how does one drive, just pretending like you're driving, okay? And then you're like, ugh.

How would you hit the gas? I would run like, ugh, and also hitting the gas. Fucking wrecked. Call progressive because- hitting the gas. Looking red, like call progressive, because you know, that that is not going to work for me. Also, I feel like throw up is so embarrassing. I hate throwing up. It's the worst. It's the fucking worst. Like, do you remember back when we were in like elementary

school, and people would like throw up in the classroom or something? No, I don't remember that ever happening. Okay, well, it happened to me several times. I was not the throw up person, but people did it. And I felt so embarrassed for them. Like I had secondhand embarrassment. It's like now everybody saw what you just ate for lunch

or like you had for breakfast. I'll never forget when Lux threw up at basketball all over everyone. All over everyone? Yes, he projectile vomited in the up at basketball all over everyone. All over everyone? Yes, he projectile vomited in the bleachers in front of everyone. Oh, you did tell me about that. I'll never forget. And I tried to catch it when I realized what was about to happen.

I tried to catch it, but it went through my fingers and it sprayed. It was the worst. I mean, so, thankfully, she was really good about it, the husband and the wife, and they knew Lux. And she's a teacher, so she's like, you know, it happens all the work. I mean, so thankfully, she was really good about it, the husband and the wife and they knew looks, but she's a teacher. So she's like, you know, it happens all the time. But like, also, it's still embarrassing. That was the craziest experience. The last thing I want to say on this foul play is she says her pregnancy was relatively smooth. Ma'am, I'm glad that you are optimistic, but a complete loss of bladder control and all day morning sickness does not sound smooth to me. That sounds like hell actually.

Okay, next foul play. Hey ladies, love the podcast and wanted to share with you my foul play. Yes, I know you will keep me anonymous. So when I was 17, I worked in a sushi restaurant for about three years with this man. Fast forward over 14 years later, we reconnected and have slept together a few times. We both have children and are single. One day he came over and we decided to have a little fun time. So I find myself bent over my couch facing towards my front door. Oh, I know where this is going. I had checked the time and thought we had at least a good 30 minutes before anyone came home. But my best friend walks in and says, Oh my god, so has shot up so freaking quick trying to

scramble to put my clothes back on while we were busting up laughing. I literally could not fucking stop. She instantly goes back outside and says, I hope you busted a nut funny story he most certainly did right as she had walked in. What? If someone like catches you doing that, it would be bad enough. Like if they caught you in the bed, but been over a couch.

I just saw the craziest TikTok last night I was scrolling on my phone. And this couple in New York City was having sex in a public park under a blanket and people were like, hold on, let me send it to you. I don't know if they thought that they weren't going to get caught because they were under a blanket. Like wouldn't a blanket just be doing this? Oh, no, they were like sideways. Hold on. Wait, it's a video of these people doing it?

Yeah, hold on. You're going be like, what in the fuck? Yeah, send it send it to me because I just want to see it for my own nasty consumption. Outside of that, kale, you said you wanted to cover till murder do us part on Netflix. And we are planning on doing that towards the middle of July. And kale also wants to watch and cover stolen youth inside the cult at Sarah Lawrence on Hulu. We will also be doing that towards the end of July. So make sure if you guys want to follow along that you give

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