Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Best Of: Predators, Botox & Foul Play

Episode Date: July 4, 2024

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I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convo's with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kaila Lindsay. My weekend. My weekend is fully booked. Listen, I saw that shirt or that sweatshirt that you posted on Instagram. And I was like the fact that she is now wearing like book sweatshirts and posting book sleeves. It's gone way too far for me. book sleeves, it's gone way too far for me.

No, I'm obsessed because now I'm buying two copies of everything. I have like my physical copy with my bookmark. And then because everything in Delaware, I would imagine it's not like this in Georgia, maybe it is, I don't know. Everything is at least 20 minutes. So going to Creed school 20 minutes going to Lexa school, just about 1520 minutes. So going to Creed school 20 minutes, going to Lexa school just about 15, 20 minutes and anywhere in between is at least 20 minutes or more. So I'm like, okay, but I can't read during that time. So now I buy the physical copy to read at home. And then I'm also using audio books during the car rides. So now I'm so unhinged that I'm buying two copies because

it's the audio version and the physical copy. This is way too much for me. Way too early in the morning. Ma'am, good morning. Welcome to Coffee Convo's podcast. Good morning. I washed my hair last night in preparation for today because I was a prepared girl.

Please tell me why I decided to oil my hair and now I have to wash it again. Well, so Taylor told me to oil your hair or do your scalp treatments, whatever you're doing the night before wash day. I know that you typically wash every day, but I guess you should have done it last night and then this morning when you showered

or whenever you showered, you would wash down. Okay, if we do that, this might be a stupid question, but where are you putting your head when you sleep? Well, you should wear a silk bonnet. Okay, you're taking everything too far this morning. If you think that I am wearing a silk bonnet to bed. Well, then you should have like a silk pillow specifically for your hair that you,

if you don't wanna wear a silk bonnet, you can use a silk pillow specifically for your hair that you... If you don't want to wear a silk bonnet, you can use a silk pillow and that way you only get that one with oil on it. Okay. Do you wear a silk bonnet at night? Sometimes. I have two pillows with silk, satin, silk, whatever, pillowcases. Those are mine. Elijah knows those ones are mine.

I have been seeing all of these videos of these women out here doing the heatless curl method and all the men just like, what the fuck did I marry? And like, why does she look like this whenever she goes to bed? This was really not what I signed up for. And I need to know if Elijah feels like that when you're wearing your soap vomit.

Probably not. Nothing fazes him. But okay, so we have so much to cover this episode and I want to start by talking about the TikTok that I sent you. I know that you also saw it, but I really want to talk about it. So I sent Lindsay this TikTok that I saw that was basically along the same lines as the conversation that we had last week about sleepovers and Lindsay had said that I saw that was basically along the same lines as the conversation that we had last week about sleepovers. And Lindsay had said that she saw it too. And her name is Randy. She was, was or is a correctional officer and she worked in prisons. And she basically just talked about how the nicest, most helpful inmates that she encountered while at the prison were child

predators. And I don't think that anything could have made me more sick to my stomach than this video. And one, I feel like she is doing God's work because, you know, I don't think people ever thought of that. She said that they would always ask her, did she need help? They were always kind to her. They don't look like... You know how we have this like, I don't want to call it a stigma,

but we have this idea that like child predators are like these like weirdo looking people that are like driving in these like old ragged vans and want to like lure your kid into their car with candy. I don't think that that's what's happening. And I think that's what she is saying in this video. So what was really alarming to me in that video was the fact that they were like the nicest people at the prison. Could you, at that point, how do you decipher who is a child predator and who's not?

I don't think you can. And I 100% agree. I for whatever reason just think, okay, this, I'm going to know a child predator if I see them. Like that's, that's in my mind. Yeah, of course. And then when I saw that Tik Tok, I was like, wow, that's very interesting. It also was interesting to me that they separate them. I had no idea.

See I did know that or I've heard like, talkings of that just for the simple fact that like if you throw one in like general population or whatever they do in like actual prisons, I know that they, other prisoners or other inmates don't fuck with that. So if you heard a child, you're automatically like they'll go after you. I've definitely heard stories of that. So I mean, I kind of agree with her when she said, well, I mean, throw them in general population and see what happens. But also, that's just, it's just so to connect those dots and like really think about it is terrifying. Well, and then did you see the part? What's that hiding in plain sight?

Yeah, yeah. That's exactly because they're not going to make themselves look suspicious. They want to be incognito. You would never think of them as a child predator. And just think about this. After I watched that video, I thought to myself, I wonder how many child predators we actually encounter on a daily basis just

through the grocery store or a restaurant or just all these places that we visit. I wonder how many are actually on a sex offenders list. I know at one point after I had Jackson, I don't know if you've ever done this, but I think we talked about it one time looking up the sex offenders list. I haven't done it in a really long time. But when I was dating someone, because he had a rental, he told me that he looked it up. And I don't know, it just gives you the heebie jeebies. He had one that was like less than a mile from his house. And when we would go walking around his neighborhood, that was like less than a mile from his house and we would go walking around his neighborhood.

It was like when I saw his house, it gave me like spine chills. And it'll tell you like the date of the offense or whatever when you look it up. And I mean, it was like many, many years ago. One time this man was in his yard and like,, I don't know, if you're on a sex offenders list and you have preyed on a child before, how do you live like your life on a daily basis, knowing that like everybody knows that or has access to knowing that?

It's just the strangest thing to me. I don't wanna get hate for what I'm about to say, but I do wonder and I don't know if on one hand, I don't want to ever give someone like this a platform. So I don't, it's like, but I just want to get into like the psychology of it. Is it like someone with addiction where they don't want to be where they are?

Is it like that? Or is it not like that? Like, do they think like, I don't know why I'm like this or maybe it happened to them? Cause I do know that a lot of times people who are hurting children that they were hurt as children, not saying that's an excuse whatsoever. But I just, I want to know from a child predator standpoint, do you like, because I know that a lot of them would reoffend

if they would get back, if they would get out, but it's like, are you in a mindset of, I don't know why I'm like this. I don't want to be like this, but I can't help it? And then at that point, you need to be locked up forever. Forever, 100%. And do you feel like, obviously grown adult, right? They're making conscious decisions when they're doing what they're doing. But is it like something with their brain chemistry or something that is just so warped and messed up. I don't know,

because I almost feel like these type of people are just master manipulators, because if they are just kind and sweet and helpful, all these things, but then they're doing these heinous crimes to children, to me, that's like a very conscious train of thought. Right. Like you are, it's just like any other person that when you, any other adult who makes the same choice over and over, that's like, you can no longer say it was a mistake because you're choosing to do it again and again. I don't know.

I don't understand it. And I mean, it has to be in balance because normal people, everyday people, a majority of us do not think about children in that way. So it has to be an imbalance. Yeah, it's, it's something maybe like a stunting of like brain growth or something. I mean, I don't, I really don't know. And if anybody is like versed on this and you have any information, please send it our way so that... I want to know the psychology

behind all of it, honestly. Another thing that was interesting to me in the video and then we can move on was she said that you're not supposed to, as a correctional officer, you're not supposed to go and look up the offense and that she did. I don't know when you're not supposed to go and look up like the offense and that she did. I don't know when you're dealing if you are a normal functioning woman. I don't know how you would hold that job and be dealing with these people all day and not be curious to like go and look it up to to wanna know like what's going on. Well, also too, just to be aware of what you're dealing with.

Correct. You, because like you said, they're master manipulators, right? So I need to know what type of person am I dealing with? Are they going to swindle me? Do I fall, like, can I believe what they say? Because I don't feel like all people that go to prison are horrible people. I don't believe that. So I do feel like there are people who

redeem themselves. I do feel like people deserve second chances and sometimes third. And so I feel like if if they don't want you to go, you know, be left to your own devices and look people up and get you know, form your own opinion, they should at least be like this person and here's what we, what you need to know. Kind of thing. Yeah. If I was in that position as a correctional officer, just as a woman dealing

with men in that capacity, I feel like that's negligent to not let me know what I'm dealing with a hundred percent agree with that, like deal with the devil that I know, not the devil. I don't. If that saying comes up in my life one more time within the next six months, I'm going to get it tattooed on me because that has literally been the phrase the theme of my life for the past six months. So I just cannot believe you even said that.

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would be able to give better advice, but this person says, I need advice. My 15 year old daughter just told me that she's pregnant. I'm absolutely heartbroken. She has only had sex with this boy one time. They are no longer together. I've talked to her about the options and she's just determined to stay pregnant. I never imagined that I'd be a grandma at 36. I'm so disappointed, sad and frankly embarrassed, especially being a labor and NICU nurse. I thought I had educated her. I feel like it was a little intentional because I've shown her the period app, what each section means. She suspected she could be pregnant pretty much immediately

and it's been stressing me out ever since we got the confirmation today. I've been dealing with a lot of behavioral issues from her. She has ADHD and anxiety. She's been in therapy for years. If you were a teen mom, what did your mom do or not do that made you feel supported or encouraged to get your life together?

She can barely take care of herself and is doing very poorly in school at this time. Her life is about to get even harder if she's truly wanting to be a mom. Based on the information only that was given here, I'm going to be completely honest with you and say that I don't believe she's only had sex one time. I think that's probably a fib that she told you. And if you have been educating her on this, and then it was probably also intentional. And I only say that because there was, and I have talked about this in my book, so it's no surprise, but I was pregnant before I had Isaac by someone else in high school. And I looked at Joe dead in his face. I don't know if I told this part in the book. I looked at Joe dead in his face and I said, if I ever got pregnant again, I would keep it. And

we still did what we did. So he knew what he was doing. I knew what I was doing. And while I wouldn't say it was intentional, I would say that there was, we didn't prevent it to the point that we should have. And it was reckless, not intentional. It was absolutely reckless. But I also remember saying, oh, I was on birth control, which I was. I had been on and off, but half truths, I think. And as a mom and a labor nurse, NICU nurse, I definitely think that she knows, she knew better.

I think that this is more about the relationship because I think it was the same for me at the time was, you know, Joe and I were not, we shouldn't have been together, right? Like his mom didn't want us together. We were very unhealthy. We had already broken up a bunch of times. We hadn't even been together for a year yet. Like it just wasn't good. But I think at the time when you're 16 or 17 or 15 in this case, because I also was pregnant at 15, you romanticize the idea that having a child will keep you guys together and you're not mature enough to understand that that's not a fact. That's not the truth.

Sex won't make him stay and a baby won't really. Sex won't make him love you and a baby won't make him stay kind of thing. So unfortunately, I think that the best thing that you can do is just be supportive of whatever, because she is immature. At 15 years old, we can't ever say, we can't say that we made the best decisions at 15 and I wasn't getting good grades at 15 or 16 either. And so this is tough because as a mom, I wouldn't want my child to go through this. I do think that the only thing you can do is be there for her because at the end of the day, it is still her body no matter how immature she is or no matter how bad her grades

are, it is ultimately her choice. And I think that that's a scary place to be for her at 15 because it could go either way. She could still make it out on top. But I mean, what do you do, Lindsay? her at 15 because it could go either way. She could still make it out on top, but I mean, what do you do, Lindsay? What would you do at Jackson's home and said, I got my high school girlfriend pregnant? What would you do? I would tell him that he better be ready to man up and that there was going to be no choice. You need to man up and you need to do the right thing because ultimately you were engaging

recklessly. And I would hope by that point that the conversations would have already, you know, been had with him about how to protect from that situation happening. And if it happens, then it happens and you're gonna have to be a man. I just, the thing is that this goes deeper than the pregnancy itself.

I feel like this is not even about the pregnancy. There's something else going on because no normal, and I'm saying this from my own experience, no normal 15-year-old, if you're already, and I hate to say this because I don't have the same blinders on because she's not my kid. So it's like, I'm speaking from experience. This was intentional. And so that's the bigger problem is the fact that it was intentional. Not necessarily that she was having sex and that she's now pregnant.

It's just like mentally speaking, emotionally speaking, you know, that piece of it. But I would like to know what else is going on in her life, I guess, that ultimately made her make the decisions that she made? And does she feel like that having a baby will fix some of the things that are wrong in her life and other ways? Because I do think that that's very common for people to think, you know, even in a marriage, right? Like, I have this baby, it's going to fix all of my other problems.

So was that some of the mindset that was going on when this decision was made? That's what I'm wondering too, because I, to this day, because I didn't want kids, like, right? Like I had never been around babies. Okay. So try to follow the bouncing ball here. I could not tell you to the, when I looked at Joe and his face, I remember the apartment, the bedroom, everything. I looked at him and I said, if I ever got pregnant again, I'm keeping it. Why would I say that? What was the driving, what were the driving feelings or what I was going through? What was the purpose of that? Because to me, what would a baby solve? Like I, to this day, I don't know. I don't know what the desire was there to say that and then to follow through

once it came to fruition. Putting myself back into the 15-year-old mindset or even just looking at other pregnant teens, you think that this is going to keep the man with you, but also adults do that. Adults who are stable, they also do that. It can't be that. I hear people talk about, oh, it was a baby that was someone that would love me unconditionally. I just don't know that that was it. I don't think that was a driving force for me. I don't know what it was. I just remember both of my grandparents have had separate conversations with me regarding my parents pregnancy with me. And they were very much struggling with that. It was an

unplanned pregnancy. My mom was 18 at the time, I believe, still in high school or like the summer of her senior year when she was pregnant with me. And her and my dad could never get along or make a decision together for their life. And at some point, I will go into more detail on who wanted what and why they wanted it. But my dad does believe that me coming into his life fixed him in a lot of ways. And so I just wonder if certain people have that mindset. Maybe they've had some type of trauma in their life as a child and they're looking for, you know, like in what feels like an innocent situation with a child that is just like completely innocent that would love you unconditionally. Is that what she's seeking?

But that's not so Isaac truly having a child lit a fire under my ass, right? Like I got to figure this out somehow, some way I'm going to make it in what way, I don't know, but I'm going to figure this shit out. But the love, I want someone to love me unconditionally piece is like not, I don't know, but I'm going to figure this shit out. But the love, I want someone to love me unconditionally piece is like, not I don't know that that there has to be more layers to that because I still don't really understand that piece of it. I would, I would be curious to know, unless it's just that, you know, the argument that people will say they don't think that their teenagers are mature enough to have relationships. I think this is moreso one of

those things. Like certain people in general, whether it be male, female, whatever, are not mature enough to have these really, really deep relationships at that age. And I think some people handle it better than others. And so once you get to that place, like myself, it was like, okay, maybe this will keep us together, or maybe I can hold on to this somehow because this is permanent. Maybe that's what it, I don't know. It's just immaturity as a whole. Sometimes it gets you to where you need to be and sometimes it's like, okay, I got pregnant in high school and I still never matured to the point that I needed to mature to be where

I need to go. You know? That's interesting. I just, I would love to know more from this listener who wrote in if you could give us more details about the circumstances surrounding this and maybe a little backstory on your daughter's life and upbringing might bring a little bit more perspective to the situation. Agreed. This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance.

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and anywhere you get your podcasts. Stay petty bestie. This woman gets on TikTok and she's talking about how influencers will never influence me to do this, this, this, and this. And one of them was Disport and Botox. And she's like, I just don't understand. Like why are we in our twenties getting this? Like I, I, you could never convince me to get it.

And I commented and I was like, I don't know that that follow up falls under the same category. I said, because there is a reason, like people are not just getting Botox just to get Botox. They're not getting dysport just to get dysport. That is a preventative situation for deep wrinkles. And I said that. And like, you know, my, and genetically speaking, my family wrinkles and sags so early on, but it's like, you know, my mom started to sag and get, I mean, the alcohol and other things contributed to that. But like also like my grandmother, my great grandmother wrinkled really quickly and just, you know, whatever. And so I was like, no, I think genetically speaking, people are prone to like, you know,

this is preventative so that that doesn't happen. I still don't get it. What's the point? Oh, and I, and I was like, at that point, you're just committed to not understanding that it is preventative. Getting Botox or Disport. Yeah, unfortunately, people do start earlier and earlier, but it's not, I mean, yeah, if you don't have them at all when you lift your eyebrows and you don't see the lines and you're not noticing, fine, don't do it. But if you start too late, you can't do any amount of correcting. No amount of Botox, filler, Disport is going to correct damage that's already been done.

Oh, I was having this conversation when I remember me telling you that I went to like this new skin place and they did this whole, they had this whole machine and you put your face down in it and it shows you like multiple layers of your skin and the damage that's been done. And then the machine says like, these are the types of things that would be recommended as care for like this client.

She was talking to me about people coming in, wanting, seeing girls like on Instagram with these flawless faces, no wrinkles, whatever, and somebody trying to start that process at 40. And once the deep set wrinkles get in, you're never gonna get the same result as somebody who started early and kept up with it. Well, so I think that's part of, you know what?

Cause I also think there's a huge misconception between fillers and Botox or Disport because people will comment on my stuff, stop messing with your face, stop messing with your face. Why does she have so much fillers? I don't have fillers in my face. Aside from my lips that I got one time in two years, I do not have fillers in my face.

Disport, and I think that was part of of the video that I'm talking about where she's confused. I think she doesn't even know what she's talking about because getting fillers and getting disport and Botox is to prevent wrinkles and sometimes headaches and other things and sweat. Some people, if they sweat really bad on their nose or on their forehead, they can get that to not do those things. Fillers is injecting your skin, and this is for people that don't know because Lindsay already knows, to put collagen or is it collagen?

It's to put filler to make your lips bigger, make your cheeks bigger, pull back your face or make a jaw line. I don't have that. I want that. Good. or, you know, make a jawline. I don't have that. I want that. So I think that when you're talking, don't spread misinformation about fillers, Botox, Disport, because they're very, very different. And like Lindsay said, you cannot go in at 40 years old and try to put all of this Botox and fillers in your face and think that you're going to look. Kristin said me, I shoot up my nose.

She's talking about Disport. It's just so infuriating because if that's who they're talking about, it's a different conversation. And I just want to be very clear and transparent that I've been doing Botox since, well, I actually do Disport now, but when I started, I don't believe Disport was on the market. So my parents' doctor used Botox at that time and I started minimally at 25 years old. And while that sounds really young to start, it was a very minimal amount. And I also want to say I get tired of seeing comments from, I'm

going to call them spectators or viewers or whatever. Wait, I love spectators. That's actually really funny. The haters that are just watching and complaining. It's like, this is not a fucking spectator sport. Like, I don't know who told you that and I don't know who told you that you needed to fucking comment. But here we are. I get really tired of seeing on people's comments, including mine, oh, this girl's face has like completely changed.

And it's like, no, yes, but like also no, because number one, I've aged. Number two, I take care of myself. Number three, I feel like we know way more about skincare and preventative things now than what we would have years ago. And I saw on this one girl's page, they were like, your entire face has just completely morphed into a new human. And it's like you would be very surprised at the small revisions that you can do with like a product like Botox

or Disport. I get the lips comment all the time. Actually told Diane on my Instagram last night to back off. If you've got some shit to say, then maybe go and look in the mirror and say it to yourself and stop saying it to me because quite honestly, it'll give a fuck. It's just so interesting like what people choose to pick apart. Like if I want to mess with my face and even if it looks bad or funny, like let me handle it because I'm looking at my if I get a bad job on something and it looks funny

because I really wanted to do, so when I watch, just follow the bouncing ball here. These lines right here, they kind of more so point down, right? Instead of being like, no, like just the slightest, like, because I look like I have resting bitch face and so I'm always, it looks like I'm frowning or pissed off. Right. So one of the options when I went to my last this disport appointment was for them to be more neutral or slightly curved up instead of down. And I said, you know, like what, you know, what are you thinking? And she was like, well, she was like, I do want to let you know that like, in the event it's not put in the same place, it could actually be worse, like you it will frown you even worse. And

I said, that's not touch it. I'm not even going to attempt that. But in the event that I did and it went wrong, I'm going to be harder on myself than anyone else. So just mind your business. If I get something to my face and it doesn't look good, I'm the one that's suffering, not you. So you don't need to comment on it. I don't know who gave people all these rights to go out and just say whatever the hell they want to say about people's physical appearance. It literally blows my mind. Speaking of like the frowny face situation that you're talking about, do you remember

the girl off of Love is Blind, Chelsea, that compared herself to Megan Fox? Yes. Yeah. Well, people were saying that she should do what you're talking about doing and it's like, okay, I'm pretty sure when she went on Love is Blind, she really didn't go on there to get told what she needs to do to her face to correct her face. Megan Fox replied, like, didn't.

Wait, I saw that but I didn't see what she said. She was basically like, first of all, everyone was praising her with how she handled it. Like Megan Fox was like, Oh, like, true class act. She handled this so well. Like she's so nice. She's a girl's girl. But it really rubbed me the wrong way because I feel like I could see right through her. Like you can't bullshit a bullshitter. And she was like, the interviewer was like, Did you watch it? And she's like, No, I just like don't have enough time to watch TV. And then

the interview asked the person interviewing her asked her again, she's like, like I said, I didn't watch it. Like you didn't need to read it. Why are you reiterating the fact that you didn't watch it, like to prove a point that you didn't fucking watch it. And then she knew what was gonna make her sound good. You know, whatever she said was gonna make her sound good and try to be like a girl's girl. It just rubbed me the wrong way. Cause I was like, I see through you.

Like I don't, and I don't like that. The way that she said it just irritated me. And I don't know. Like I said, I didn't watch it. And it's like, okay, nobody can, like why, why? Why do you have that? You already said that in the first part of the interview? So I'm confused why we're bouncing back to the same thing.

We fucking got it the first time. Speaking of girls, girls, I saw this article on parents.com and it says, what is a girl's girl and why is it not always a good thing? And this was so interesting. Like I immediately clicked on this article because I was like, I've always been told like being a girl's girl is the thing to be. Okay, but before you even read me this article, let me tell you a scenario where I'm not going to be a girl's girl. Okay. I'm not telling you unless you're my best fucking friend and

I know this has been an ongoing conversation across the board don't involve me in your cheating scandals because I'm not telling so-and-so's husband or I'm not telling you about your like unless it's like you and you explicitly tell me today, Kayl if you see so-and-so cheating on me I want to know right now and I'm not going to hold hold it against you okay maybe I'll tell you but other than that I'm not that to hold hold it against you. Okay, maybe I'll tell you. But other than that, I'm not that's not my fucking business. If I see your man out on the street, and I hardly know you, I'm not going to go tell you because that's not my fucking place. And it's not my business. Okay, if this was somebody who is in like my core friend group, and I saw this friend's boyfriend, husband, whatever you want to call him out running the streets with another woman. I am absolutely telling her,

and I don't care if it wrecks the friendship or not, because that's not gonna be on my conscience knowing that I saw something. Letting a situation continue with her thinking that things are fine, no, absolutely not. Like you do with information what you want to, but this is exactly what I saw. This is where I saw it.

And- But what about like a regular acquaintance? Like someone that you know, you might say hi to her, but it's not someone that you text on a daily or weekly basis. What about that? No, I'm probably not telling because I don't know enough about their life

to know what would be going on. Hell, she might be doing the same thing to him. So perfect example. And I'm not going to tell you guys who in case you're from Samurna, Dover, Delaware area know what I'm talking about. I don't go there anymore, but I was going to this nail place and someone was like, Oh, like, where do you get your nails done? And I was like, Oh, this is where I get my nails done. She's like, Oh, you know,

the one where so and so his husband is cheating on her. And I was like, I don't want to like, why did you do that? Like, why? Because you know, like the whole town. Also, it's just like, I don't know you well enough to tell me that. And then secondly, now you put me in a position that I don't because I was seeing her weekly. So it's like, you know, and like we didn't text outside of that. But it's just like now and even to this day, I'm like, are you fucking kidding? Like, I now I'm uncomfortable.

She could be doing that to him, too. I don't fucking know. And I'm not going to involve myself in people's business that I'm just like, passing acquaintances with. That's not my place because I don't know enough to know enough to say something. Right? Right. You have heard the girls say this so many times that it truly takes a village to raise a baby, to raise children, which is why delegation is key.

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product of your choice. That's hellobello.com slash coffee to start bundling with 30% off your first order. Don't forget that's hellobello.com slash coffee. On that note, we can get into foul play. Perfect. So I wanted to send this in for a while now. Backstory, both my husband and I have been married before. We also moved into his hometown last year. In my new town, I'm starting to establish doctors. I'm also currently changing my maiden name to my married name. I start with a gynecologist appointment because our health matters. Anyways, I've been a nurse, doctor, everything is fine. I do have a vaginal cyst I've had for two years and lately has been giving me problems. So I asked the doctor to check it out and what the next step steps are. She said it's not a problem. She proceeds to look and inform me that I

have to, it'll have to be surgically removed. And if she could invite the surgeon in to get his take on it, I'm thinking, okay, sure. Just invite another person while my lady bits are exposed, which I mean, I feel like you have to expect that when you're at the guy. I know, but 100% You also get decline. I mean, I don't know. He comes in and immediately sees my married last name, which is pretty unique and asked me, do you by any chance know blank, my husband's ex wife? Mind you, my legs are in the stirrups. I say, oh, she's my husband's ex wife. He

immediately is embarrassed and stumbles for what to say. He starts saying, oh, I used to work with her and when I saw your last name, I thought there might be a relation. She's a very nice lady. I liked her. I'm going to stop talking about her now. I tried to save his embarrassment and say, oh, well, I've met her too and she's super nice.

But then he got to looking at my broken lady bits. I laughed so hard when I told my husband. He told me I should have been petty and asked if she was working yet since she had her license revoked for buying illegal drugs for something. But I'm not that type of person. Now when I get to the doctor appointment, I'm waiting for someone to ask me about her. It's become quite a joke with me and my husband. Okay. This is so- Who is it?

This is so interesting because when you live in a small town or in this person's situation and they're moving into a town where their husband has been married before, I come from a very small town. And my parents grew up collectively, all of my parents grew up within miles of each other. So obviously, my dad and mom had Kyle and I from the first marriage. And then when Julie got pregnant with Chase, her doctor was the same doctor that delivered Kyle and I and I always thought it was like the strangest thing. I'm like, is there no other doctor that you can go and see that's just weird? Like he has seen, and it was a male doctor,

so he has seen both of my dad's women's lady bits. So wait, okay, because you can relate to this then. Yes. Do you feel, not just doctors though, but do you feel, I also come from a very small town, like very fucking small. And this area is not just doctors though, but do you feel I also come from a very small town, like very fucking small. And this area is not very big either. So you can drive from top to bottom in three hours. And just for me, I'm like, y'all couldn't have picked

a different doctor, a different dentist, like I feel like, it's so weird. It's not the kids fault. But also I'm like, okay, how do you know we're here first. And so we kind of established like who we, but also I'm like, okay, Havi and I were here first. And so we kind of established like who we're going to. And like, it's almost like my picks, some of my picks were good enough for them to take their kids to, and some of them weren't. They're like not good enough.

And I'm just like, just don't go with any of my picks. Like it just feels weird because then things get weird with the accounts and things get like, oh, this person owes this and this kid owes this, but Lincoln's on both accounts and things get like, oh, this person owes this and this kid owes this, but Lincoln's on both accounts and he should only be on yours because you're the pay, like I just. I'm just like, why can't we just get our own providers?

Yes. So. I was really hard to find these providers that I love. Please go pick your own. So it's so funny that this even came up because it's something that I've been experiencing for like the last six months. Will and I still go to the same dentist. So I know every time he goes to the dentist

and like what's happening because I get the text notification, like hope you enjoyed your appointment, whatever. Or I get his bill in the mail and I'm like, wait a minute, like he's not even my husband anymore. So like why am I getting this? And that's probably actually a HIPAA violation as well. And I'm like, y'all, do you know how many times

Kristen's called that dentist office and is like, how many times can I tell you to separate the account? They haven't been married for three years. Like, this is fucking weird. Will and I also used to see the same doctor to get our physical every year and now he still sees him, but I don't. Yeah, I don't love that. I had a situation with um I don't want to say because I love

I love the office so I don't want to say anything but um I was like we need to separate these accounts because I don't I don't want to know when they have not because I have I don't want to know when they have the balls checked or like when they're having testing done like I really just like don't need to fucking know that. No, thank you. Moving along. My husband left me confused after our morning sex session this morning, but at least I got a foul play out of it. I'll cut right to the chase. Well, please fucking do. We

were in the middle of foreplay. He was flicking the beam to be exact. I only say this detail to point out that nothing was going in and out of my vagina. I tensed up and then released and farted. Wow. I went from being embarrassed to confused real quick because without skipping a beat, my husband said, Oh yeah, baby, let it out. Excuse me, sir, what? Let what out? Because I know you're not talking in a sexy voice about me letting a fart out of my butt. Did he think it was a queef?

If so, I have a whole nother set of question. Does he think queefs are a sign of orgasm? Anyways, I didn't let it totally ruin my mood. I just tucked it away safely for this email. Thanks for the content content babe. Well, can't wait to hear your opinions on what he thought was happening. Thanks ladies for always getting me through the week. Do men really know the difference between a queef and a fart? Because I can confidently tell you the last person that I was with would definitely know the difference

between a queef and a fart. I think only specific men do. I don't think that all men know the difference, even though all men might claim to know the difference. Do men think if you queef that you orgasmed? I don't necessarily know if that's what they think it is. I think that it could be that they, maybe not orgasm, but they think that they were doing their job or something

or I don't know. Next foul play. Okay. Dear ladies, I just want to start off by saying I've been a fan since the beginning. You ladies have helped me get through some hard times over the last few years and I appreciate this podcast more than words can say. Please keep me anonymous. I have a DNA slash ancestry story for you.

My whole childhood, my sister and I, who is five years older, joked that I was adopted because we look nothing alike. She's petite and blonde and I'm taller and brunette. She has blue eyes, I have green. This was mostly just to mess with my mom. I don't think any of us truly thought that we weren't fully blooded siblings. I look a lot like my mom,

whereas my sister looks a lot like our dad. Well, about three years ago, I took an ancestry test. Nothing really surprising on it, but I found out that I was almost 50% Scottish. I'd grown up my whole life thinking I was mostly first of all, who is this? Because this is me. I grew up thinking I was half German, literally 50% German. Anyway, I had grown up my whole life thinking I was mostly German. Again, I didn't think anything of it as these things happen. Well, about six months later, my sister decided to take an Ancestry DNA test and this morning she got her results and called me at 6 a.m.

My sister is never awake before 9 a.m. She's in a panic, tells me to pull up my Ancestry and lo and behold, we are only half sibling. To say that I was shocked was an understatement. We started calling my mom in a panic, trying to get some answers. She finally answers the phone, upset, saying she honestly never thought I wasn't my dad's kid

but before I was born, she did have a one night stand with a co-worker. My mom's defense, my dad is an asshole. I love him. He's a good dad but wasn't great to my mom and at this point they had been divorced for almost 20 years. I was 10, my sister 15 when they divorced. My sister was freaking out and if I'm being honest, a total bitch. If anyone should be upset, it would be me.

I'm a firm believer that blood means nothing. My dad raised me for 30 years at that point. He was my dad regardless. We have sworn ourselves to secrecy on this. Only the three of us, plus our husbands, sister and I, plan to never speak a word of this to my dad or for the sole fact that to me it doesn't matter. He's still my dad. And also I know the shit storm that this would cause. My dad can be a petty asshole when he wants to be and he never let my mom live this down. We were able to get together as a family with my mom and dad, stepmom, all the kids.

I have three, sister has two. It's just not worth the problems it would cause if we told the truth. I don't look at my mom any different. She's still my best friend and if I'm being honest, I don't blame her for having an affair. My dad wasn't a good husband. He was controlling and just mean sometimes.

My mom and sister don't understand why I'm not even a little bit curious as to who my real dad is. I just don't care. I have my dad and even if DNA says otherwise, he's still my dad. I told my mom, I want to know nothing. His name, what he looks like, nothing. All she said was I do look like him. Some difference, some differences between my sister and I personally, personality wise makes sense. Now my mom has spent the last several years feeling guilty for this, for not knowing, for having the affair, for putting me in this position, but I'm not upset, hurt, or anything. Do you all think I'm crazy for not being bothered? I also feel like it comes from protection for my mom. I don't want her to deal with the health

storm it would cause. I've spent my whole life protecting her. My dad left her in a terrible position when they got divorced. Things shut off and he didn't have to pay child support in exchange for us not having to go over to his house on a schedule. I really just want to know if you guys think I'm crazy for keeping this a secret and also not wanting to know anything. Love you guys and keep being you. Okay. I'm conflicted because I just met someone last week that is adopted and she and both of her sister are adopted from another country from different families. She was telling me that she could find out who her parents are because she has a photo of them and whatever and she does have information but she has no desire to have anything to

do with them because she feels like her parents were good parents and that that's always going to be her parents. So it seems like this girl feels that exact same way. I just feel like curiosity would kill me at that point and I would just have to know. For me, I wanted to know my dad. I wanted to know who he was. I wanted to make those decisions myself. I think my circumstances were different. I also really wanted to know my sister. I don't think that she's crazy for not wanting to know. I don't think that it's wrong for her to not want to know. If that's how she feels, why even question it? You don't need to know if you don't want to know. That's it. That's okay. Don't feel bad for it. Don't make anyone feel guilty because if their curiosity is what is

wanting you to ask, that's also not fair. Yes, you're protecting your mom and that's your sister, but at the end of the day, do not let their curiosity about who your dad is. Also, I just have to say this, as a mom of seven children with four dads, I would know if one of the kids wasn't one of the dads. Does that make sense? Yeah, but explain it more for those that will not make sense to you. Knowing, okay, I have one child with Joe,

one child with Hobby, two children with Chris, three children with Elijah. I would 1000% know if I put myself in a position to have gotten pregnant by someone other than my partner at the time, I would know if that child, because even if I didn't know while I was pregnant, I would know when that child came out. Because when I tell you the mannerisms of specifically Isaac Lincoln and Lux, I mean, it's just for Isaac, he does this very specific eyebrow raise that is Joe through and through.

He does this thing when he's eating. He does this when he's eating sometimes that Joe does it's so if he didn't look like him already the merit Isaac's Lincoln stands with his hands on his hips just like hobby and there are just certain things and I'm not saying it's like, you know what I mean? Well, I would know Lux laughed yesterday in the car. I happened to turn and look at him. The way that he laughed, just the look on his face. I don't know if it was the mannerisms. I said, that is Chris. If he didn't already look like Chris, that laugh and that

glimpse that I got was Chris. I would know even the the twins and Rio, to me, I can't tell who they look like yet. Sometimes I see Elijah, sometimes I'm like, you don't look like anybody. But Rio's expressions, I'm like, oh, that's Elijah through and through. I would know who their dad is. That's what's so interesting to me about this story. I don't want to call the mom out. Right. And that's like, she's protecting her mom. She loves her mom. I'm not trying to make a dig at her mom, but I think her mom probably knew and didn't say anything. Correct. That's the feeling I get.

She'll never admit that she had an inkling. She'll never admit that. That's something that she wasn't- Yeah. No. I think that she probably knew. If if she said you look like him and like the personality stuff makes sense, you think that after all of these years, she never thought about that? If you have an affair and then you end up, like you questioned that at some point.

Right? Yeah, 100%. Okay, so I was scrolling Instagram the other day and I saw one of my good friends just redid her entire backyard to get it all set up and ready for summer fun in the sun. I have never been more obsessed with a setup in my life. So I asked her where she got it from and she told me Wayfair, which I'm obsessed with Wayfair. I have shopped on Wayfair for probably 10 years now. Kayle is obsessed with Wayfair.

Lindsay is obsessed with Wayfair. Lindsay is obsessed with Wayfair. Lindsay's checking out a grill right now for this new house that she has all set up and ready to go as soon as it comes back into stock, which if you don't know this, Wayfair has this fun feature where you can type your email in. So when something comes back into stock, they alert you.

Kayle is out here probably getting more bookcases was the last thing that she sent me from Wayfair for her reading addiction. So it's safe to say we are definitely Wayfair girlies over here. I am going to be trying to duplicate my friend's situation with just a little bit more things like my style. And she already sent me all of her links.

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You make my week with all of your shows. This is legit foul and I cannot believe I'm sharing this. I was hooking up with my on again off again person while it was getting very hot and heavy and I was so wet. I could smell something. Oh terrible. We both hurried to finish because I was getting very hot and heavy and I was so wet I could smell something. Uh oh. Terrible. We both hurried to finish because I was getting embarrassed of the smell.

We finally got done and went to clean up and there was blood everywhere like a murder scene. I was incredibly embarrassed. We cleaned up and I was like, why is there so much blood? I figured I got my period and brushed it off. The next day I was using the bathroom and smelled that foul smell again and then it fricking hit me. I left my desk in from the last time I got my period. I freaked out and tried to get it out, but I couldn't. I tried everything and finally came out and the smell was horrible.

I legit thought I was going to die. When I went to the doctor the next day and got checked out, I was perfectly fine. Just a strong antibiotic for BB and that hold up. Went to the doctor the next day and got checked out and I was perfectly fine, just a strong antibiotic for BV and that hold up. I went to the doctor the next day and got checked out and I was perfectly fine, just a strong antibiotic for BV from that being in me for nearly three weeks. Needless to say, when my fuck buddy asked if everything checked out okay, I said yes, I got my period. Like I thought it must have been a bad one and that was the smell.

Boys are stupid and he was just glad I was fine, but damn that was so foul and the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to me. Thank you ladies for making my weeks. Love you both. That sounds like my tampon story. It was horrible. It was absolutely fucking foul. The one where you forgot that it was in there? How long was your tampon in there? Who the fuck knows? I'll tell you what though, when I went to Mexico and I was having those period problems not that long ago, I accidentally put a second one in and when I went to go take that one out, because I didn't know I had one in, two came out and I was like, wow, what the fuck is going on?

What? Yeah. And I was wondering why it hurt to put the, when I went to go put one in, it's like, why is it so, like it hurts to put it in, like what's going on? Because there was already one in there. Okay. So this menstrual disc thing, it's the one where it like traps like what's going on? Because there was already one in there. Okay, so this menstrual disc thing, it's the one where it like traps your period blood, right?

So that would be three week old, from what I'm understanding, three week old trapped period blood just marinating. Hold on, I need to see what this looks like because I don't, so a menstrual disc is similar to a menstrual cup maybe? Oh, these are disposable. Okay. So like a Diva cup is more of like a silicone vibe.

This is like a bag sort of, like it's like a disc with like a little bag, like a little catcher. But it's just like stagnant blood sitting there for three weeks, right? Right. So it's not- So could you imagine the smell? No, because I don't know like stagnant blood sitting there for three weeks, right? Right. So it's not what you imagine the smell. No, because I don't know what stagnant like a pool of stagnant blood smells like.

I honestly don't know of any person that I've ever been with that would possibly smell something like that and then just like continue going. Really? Men are disgusting. Evidently, not the ones that I've been with because I can just tell you confidently that no, they'd be like, what the fuck is that? Didn't I tell you about my ex who was obsessed with my period

blood? Did I tell you this? Yeah, but I forget who it was. As you should, but I make myself up. Um, there are men are foul they're disgusting. No. Oh yeah. I was going to say that one next. Sorry guys. You guys, that would just be very insensitive for us to tell you who it was. I wish I could though. That would be fantastic. I just, I don't, I don't know.

I think that I would be very freaked out and no shit that would cause BB. If I was a guy. Wait, how do you even get your dick up there if there's a cup up there? Like how big is this cup? Well, so I think it probably moved. The disc was like this and then something was inserted. I feel like it would, wouldn't you feel it hitting though?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Even if you push it out of the way, you had to have felt that, right? Because even like to make it budge, so we're like talking, that couldn't have been comfortable, right? But also, I mean, I had sex with a tampon in and so I feel, but I will say, I know people who have sex with, like they purposely put a tampon in during their period to have sex. Wait, what? Yes. I have read threads online about people putting tampons in before they start having sex so that they don't bleed on somebody else.

I don't know that that seems very sanitary, honestly. Can we talk about something really quick? Because I'm having a problem right now, right? I have my tubes tied and so having a problem right now, right? Like I have my tubes tied and so like I can't get pregnant, right? Here's the problem that I'm having the conflict, if you will. Can't get pregnant. Great. Fantastic. You could blow a load inside me. It doesn't really matter. But here's the thing. I don't want to clean up that mess and I don't want to be dripping for the next 24 hours. So what is the solution? Condoms? Because yeah, that's great and all, but we're monogamous.

We're committed. We're in a partnership where we are not with other people. And also I know that people are going to be pissed off when I say this, but they dry me up. So they're not uncomfortable for me necessarily, or they like don't feel different, but I do dry up quicker. Like my natural fluids dry up quicker like my natural fluids dry

up quicker when we use condoms. So what is the fucking solution to that? I have a couple of questions. So you feel like it's a bigger mess than like come on the tummy. No, I think that's way better than inside me because when it's even you, when they don't pull out, it's you're dripping for hours, if not an entire day. Is that just dependent on the person? Like, does that happen to everybody?

You don't feel like you drip for like hours? Uh-uh. Really? No. Like, do you pee right after you have sex? Yeah, absolutely. And then it still drips? Yeah.

Okay, I would love to know from anyone listening if that's like more of the common thing or not. Kristen told me about these sponge sticks, but like I also feel like why do I need to buy products to put in places? Men don't have any of these problems. I also feel like if I regularly let him not pull out, there has to be a like, I would probably develop a smell at some point or something

right? Because it's like just like constantly going in there and like constantly having to cleanse itself. Like you get what I'm saying? Like, I just feel like that's like a bigger that's why you need to get the what's that brand? I think it's called like love or something. You can buy them at Target and they're like vaginal suppositories. But like, what do you do? You would put it in there like, once a week or what?

Yeah, yeah, just clear jawn out. So I just don't let him I told him like you have to pull out every time but we're both fix that sucks you know what I mean? I know that that absolutely sucks. Wait Elijah got a vasectomy too? Yeah and he regrets it. Why? He wants another baby. As if y'all don't have enough. And you know what's crazy is that I kept saying I told everyone, Chris and included, I said That's crazy is that I kept saying, I told everyone, Kristen included, I said, after these babies, I'm gonna want to give Valley a sister.

That is something I never had and I always wanted, specifically a sister for my girl, right? A sister, a sister, a sister. Elijah came from a family of two boys and two girls. And so he got the vasectomy and then shortly thereafter, I think he is, I don't think regret is the right word because they think we're happy either way. We both were like, wow, like Valley will never have a sister. And I kind of felt that way too, what I thought

it was like more like coming to terms with the fact that I'll never have another baby and like, I'm okay either way. He is actively like upset. That makes me so sad for you guys. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. Are you all in the regret phase? I'm in a place where I could go either... I would be fine with adoption or foster for a little girl for Valley. You know what I mean? I would be open to that. I would be open to... I was listening to a book the other day, I think, and they were talking about the orphanages in another country. And I was like, well, that would be a way to kind of have the best of both worlds where

you give someone a home that needs one. And also I don't have to go through this entire process. So I think it's very selfish if I'm like, oh yeah, let's just like go through IVF and I'll just like have another baby. Like I feel like that's a little bit crazy after having seven kids. But I'm open minded, I guess. But I think he does have some, like, regrets. That makes me so sad. Tell, tell hot neighbor that I'm praying

for him. And it'll all work out how it's supposed to. Last foul play and then we got to get the fuck off of here. Hi ya! Kale and Lindsay, long time listener here and I'm not sure whether I'm hoping my story gets read or not because it's funny but embarrassing. When I just started dating my then boyfriend, now husband, he would want to hang out all night. I would get so nervous it would make me super gassy. So I would internally beg to go home. One night I was so gassy that I literally had to go into the bathroom and fart because my stomach started

into cramp making crazy noises. So while I was in the bathroom, I figured out a way to muffle a fart. You basically put a tissue on your butthole and the fart is silenced perfectly worked and works like a charm. Try this method if you're ever in a gassy situation, love the podcast and you girls you're doing amazing sweeties. At what point do you figure out that you put a tissue over your butthole?

No, because one of my best girlfriends told me this years ago. Wait, what? You've heard of this before? Yes. She told me this, her ex-fiance, when they were getting really chummy and he would stay the night and stuff, she discovered this and told me. I've never needed to do it, but it's very helpful to know. But what does it do?

It doesn't absorb the smell, it just absorbs the sound. So I'm not entirely sure about like sound waves and like the speed of light. I don't know. But it's kind of like when you snap your finger, like at what point is it making the sound, right? Like when it smacks your hand after or like upon friction. So same thing with a fart. Like we don't really know. We just know that the two, the toilet paper works. You know thing with a fart like we don't really know we just know that the two the toilet paper works. You know, it's just like a hack. Isn't that so interesting when people like get into new relationships, myself included. And it's like you've never like

farted around each other or done anything that's like gross and then all of a sudden it, it turns from that to like, it's fine. Yeah, I still haven't farted around Elisha. I don't think that that's I'm just also not super gassy. So I haven't had that issue. But there's just something about like, I just can't bring myself to do it. I mean, it's just like a really, it's a really weird thing. And

it's just like, what are you going to do just like, blow a fart when you're walking through the kitchen and just like be fine with it. I mean, there are people out there that are like I've seen this on Instagram where people have answered questions like yes, we fart in front of each other. We've always farted in front of each other. And it's like, at what point did you become comfortable that you're just like, okay, I'm gonna fart and

whatever this smells like is what it smells like, like, no, just can't get behind it. It's like only accidents are I'm gonna fart and whatever this smells like is what it smells like like Only accidents are acceptable, you know what I mean? Only shitting accidents are acceptable on that note. Thank you guys for always supporting our show Please subscribe and review on the Apple podcast app following right on Spotify or listen wherever you get your podcast Don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group to connect with us in our community We hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon. See ya Don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group to connect with us and our community. We hope you guys have a great week and we'll talk to you soon. See ya.

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