Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Olsen Twins Secret World & Safety Tips

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

CC364: Lindsie and Kail want to know who prefers Ulta or Sephora, and why! An article on Mary Kate and Ashley's life has us wishing they would come back to Hollywood to do a docu-series. After a conversation with her cousin, Kail wants to know what plan parents tell their kids in case they get separated, and Lindsie wants to know how a convicted child rapist gets to participate for the Olympics. Also on deck, some listener questions about a wedding asking for credit card information and more safety tips that friends should use when going out. For today's Foul Play, a situation becomes embarrassing at a church service. Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsor! Better Help: This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/coffee today to get 10% off your first monthHello Bello: Start bundling with 30% off your first order at hellobello.com/COFFEERoBody: Memberships start at just $99 for your first month at Ro.Co/COFFEECONVOS. Medication costs are separateRocket Money: Manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/COFFEECONVOSWayfair: Visit Wayfair.com or get the Wayfair mobile app

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say? Thank you. This is coffee convos with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your fields, Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kailin Lindsay. Good morning and welcome back to another episode of Coffee Combo's podcast. If you guys happen to see me in this hat every single week for like the next two weeks, it's because I can't find any. So the moving process is going really well. Ma'am, when I tell you, it has been an absolute shit show and an undertaking that I truly did not mentally prepare myself for

in the way that I should have mentally prepared myself. It was going off of this idea of, oh, like if you just keep suppressing all of these emotions, everything fine and it'll all just work itself out. Okay, no, because shit has hit the fan and I've lost my shit. Oh, okay. Yeah.

I don't love that for you. I was kind of- I've had bad people, at least. I was hopeful that this moving process for you and hiring movers and all of that was gonna go really well, because I have never done that, but I thought maybe if you had a good experience

and I would also try to do that for my next move. Okay. Well, first of all, good morning. Welcome to Coffee Convo's shit show. It's a great idea because your entire house can be packed up in one day and like somewhere else, which is kind of mind blowing to think that your whole existence of where you live can just be packed up in somewhere else in less than 24 hours.

That's number one. It's like a little bit scary, but yeah. It's a little terrifying. The next thing is they packed everything for me, including my toothbrush because I've had other things going on. We go back to school. When you guys hear this, we'll be Jackson's first day back to school. So I have been at like meet and greets,

trying to do the supplies, trying to do back to school clothes shopping, all of that, all the while, I'm moving my entire existence to another address. Please tell me when I went to go and unpack my kitchen, these movers, and this is men, y'all, we should come up with a women's moving company because I feel like a woman wouldn't do this. Please tell me why I found dirty dishes from my fucking dishwasher. Yes, in my boxes. So now I have to wash everything because I don't know what's clean and what's

not. Wait, so does that mean that the dishwasher wasn't run before they packed it? Yeah, I think that's what happened, which is a me problem, right? But I really just didn't know they were going in the dishwasher. I didn't think they would check the dishwasher. So did you think that you would still have time to run it

or like you just like completely forgot? No, I completely forgot. Okay, I think it happened. There was anything in there. So I am living out of a box. Okay. I at least have my toiletries out and I've been able to wash my tits and bits. Also went on a shopping spree over the weekend and I have a couple of items that I want to show you. So did you bring them to the old house

or to the new house? Well, I took them to my new house but then I had to bring them to this house to record because I also had an Xfinity issue. So I have no Wi-Fi, internet, like nothing's going on over there. Do you have an office at that house? Yeah, but no office set up. So I had to come back to this house so that I could actually, you know, perform my task and entertain fucking everybody, including myself. Number one, I have a question. You and I have argued about the Ulta and Sephora situation before, and you said that you like Ulta better

because of the point system. Yes. I like the shopping experience better at Sephora. I just feel like everything is set up more nicely. It's kind of like comparing Walmart and Target. I don't know, because I like the Target. I mean, I've been to both and I also like the Ulta setup as well. I just think it's cleaner. It smells better. I don't know. Maybe it's just like the specific

Holton Sephora that I go to. So I need you guys to let us know if you are Sephora or if you're Ulta. I got these and I think you told me about them a while ago, the Dennis Gross, Dr. Dennis Gross peel pads. Was it you that told me about these? No. Okay, so I lied. I got the extra strength, mainly because I feel like I need it currently.

What is it? They are treatments for, it's basically like a peel, like a daily peel pad. And it's two steps. So they come, I really like the packaging. So they come like this. I'm more hard of that. Step one and step two.

And everyone, I've seen these all over TikTok. I've seen like beauty influencers talking about these. So I got them. I'll let you know how I like them because for a small box like this, it was I think $97. It comes with 30 treatments. So I don't know what that breaks down to price wise. I also love this brand. Remember, remember my QVC days? Yeah, how could we forget Smith's seven vacuum cleaners?

I'm still in QVC days, but I found this brand Josie Moran or something. I don't know how to say it, but I got these little kits, these little, they're basically like travel ones, but they're body butters and they smell so good. A full-size one of these is like $62, but I got three cents in the travel size for 36. So obviously I'm learning how to be a super saver.

Period. As you should. The last thing that I got, if you don't have this, this Elia, it's a face milk. It's like a lightweight moisturizer. I tried my friend Leah's when we were on vacation together at the beach and can't stop thinking about it. And so I bought this have no idea how much it is. But if you don't have it immediately run and get it. The next thing I want to tell you that I tried double cheeseburger add mac sauce, double cheeseburger add mac sauce already took one bite.

But as Dave point noise says two bites, you know the rule. It's fucking good. Thank you. Thank you. Whoever invented that idea, if it was you, you would. I don't know. I loved the Macs. I don't like the Mac burger. I like a double cheese because it's like just enough. You know what I mean? So I was like, okay, let me just do,

and I'm sure other people have done it. I'm not the first person to fucking coin it, but I didn't get it from anywhere. I did it my, so whoever's done it on their own, you've done it on your own. I did it on my own, so I'm taking the credit here on Coffee Combos. It is so good.

I will never order another double cheeseburger. Not that way. Period. Thank you. Fucking Hold the Pickles. I love pickles, but I don't like pickles on things. And pickles at McDonald's weird me out. Because they're warm? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I could get that. I mean, I don't really love hot pickles either, but on the double cheese, I don't care. And also if I go to Chick-fil-A, if I get

a sandwich like the original Chick-fil-A sandwich, I tell them not to put pickles. I don't want to be like bougie like that, but also those pickles absorb into the bread. I don't agree. I agree with that. I also just don't understand, like, what is the obsession with the pickles on hot sandwiches? Like, I love pickles and I like to eat pickles with things, but I just think at like Popeyes does it. I think McDonald's pudding, like I love pickles,

but just like, I don't know. I'm kind of like, okay, if I'm going to get even a cold cut sub, I'm still going to get pickles, but I want them on the side so I can like eat my sandwich and then eat the pickle when I want the pickle. Right, right, right. Another thing that I need to tell you is because of this whole moving thing, I have gate clickers for my gates for this neighborhood. And there was this lady, did I tell you this story about the crazy lady in my neighborhood?

Well, I know there's a crazy lady in your neighborhood, but wait, when you move, where do you take the clickers to? What do you mean? Like who do I give them to? Yeah. I guess whoever buys this house, which also I'm waiting on the offer to come through. So that's something else that I'm dealing with today as well. Wait, so you got one, but it hasn't come through or you haven't gotten an offer yet? Yeah, no, their agent let my agent know that they weren't going to be submitting an offer.

So I'm waiting on that whole process as well. So they will be the recipients of the gate clickers. Got it. So we pull into our neighborhood the other day and it was like maybe six o'clock in the evening and I'm pulled over like all the way to the side and this crazy lady like that shit like looked like she was coming from fucking hell pulls into the neighborhood and she's watching everything that I'm doing and I'm'm like, I'm not in the way. Like you can go ahead, use your gate clicker if you need the call box, like more than accessible, like do you girl? She pulls up beside me and I don't know why this feels

so important to the story to me, but she was in like a gold Mercedes. Okay. So it kind of like is giving very, what I think somebody that used to work for like Mary Kay vibes would be, you know, she kind of gave off that. She pulls up next to my car and asked for me to like motions for me to roll down the window. So I rolled in the window and I said, can I help you? And she's like, I'm just trying to get into my neighborhood. And I said, Okay, like, nobody stopping you. Like, I'm fucking confused. Why this is going on. And she's been like, questioning what the fuck I'm doing there. And she reiterates multiple times that it's her

neighborhood. And I said, I also live here. Contrary to your belief, I also fucking live here. I'm waiting to let someone in behind me so I need to click them into the gate. And what did she say? She just sits here and fucking looks at me and Jackson's in the passenger seat. She's just looking at me and I said, oh, I get it.

You just think that you're better than everybody, don't you? And what did she say? Oh, stop it. No, I'm not stopping anything. In fact, I'm parked here, but my mouth is still going and you're still on my fucking nerves. So if you could just proceed. Ma'am, we get home, this woman comes by, mind you, the wreck that I got in hitting the moose. I was in a rental. So the rental doesn't have like my tag or anything like that.

It's an out of state tag. Jackson's outside riding a scooter and this lady pulls up. She's trying to like locate where I live. She pulls up and she is taking pictures of my car. And I'm like, okay, I immediately am going to end up on the community Facebook page. Ask me how many fucks I give because never found one ever. Well also she could have just drove around you 100% like so basically what you're gonna do what you're telling me is you're gonna out yourself for being a bitch

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slash coffee combos rocket money.com slash coffee combos. I have to tell you something. What do you remember when we had Tina on from just drive? Yeah. So I've been using Just Drive for a long time. And when I got a new package because they came out with Just Calm and whatever else, I did not read the bottles. Okay? That sounds like something you would do. So I'm thinking from the time right before she came on the podcast until now, like yesterday,

I thought that I was taking a prebiotic and a probiotic. And I have been accidentally doubling probiotics, which doesn't sound like a big deal, but I was already going against what I should have been doing because the gummies are, you only take one, but since I'm a bigger girl and I'm irregular, I was like, let me take two. So I really tripled because then, so these are the gummies and they're like almost gone because I take two. This whole time, I thought this was also, I thought this was a prebiotic because it's the capsule. So I've been taking, and these are almost gone too. I have been taking three probiotics every single day

Isn't that bad for you? Probably because isn't one like the good bacteria you need and then you need like a certain amount of bacteria in your body For it to be normal. Well, so I'm ODing Yeah so now I've learned my lesson to read the bottles, read the labels. I love that for you. I am currently not taking any vitamins

because I don't know where they are. So outside of that, I want to tell you about, well, number one, I saw it on TikTok, but then it led me to Google because I was like, I really need to investigate this. There was an Us Magazine article that came out about the secret world of Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen. And it says, Inside their fashion empire, love and social lives.

And it was talking about basically people who worked for them or with them about their personalities and how they are. And I'm completely not shocked at all that they are the way that they are. Based on what you've read, are their personalities matching how they look to the general public when they are spotted and pictures are taken. I think so. Because how they look is exactly how I pictured their personalities.

Same. Which is interesting. And I know that times change and like, you think you know someone from a year ago and when you like catch up with them a year or 18 months later, sometimes, I'm not saying every single time, but a lot of times people

change in that short amount of time. And so like, if you think of the show, Two of a Kind, they were super bubbly and like outgoing and fun. And I remember that from their movies. But then when they started to like remove themselves from the public eye and then kind of withdrew, I felt like their entire demeanor, personality, all of the things kind of drained out of them. I, okay. So number one, do you think that from outsiders looking in, because they gained fame so early on in their life, like they were only in games when they began their careers on Full House. And I just wonder if it was from their parents or their own like personal choice that they

didn't like the spotlight of TV. Do you think it was like maybe they got burnt out and they didn't like it? Or do you think that over time they were like, okay, we've made enough money, we're comfortable, we don't have to work anymore. Well, you have to consider when they went from Full House, right? Then they did all of the movies that every girl that grew up at the same time as we did, watched every single one of the movies that they did together. But they also went on, I believe it was Jimmy Fallon or David Letterman, they went on one of them and they were like, we were taught from a really young age, like our dad taught us that no is a full sentence.

Like no means no. And so if that's the case, I can't imagine them being forced to stay in the spotlight. I feel like it's something that they wanted to do. I don't know. I think that they got so invested and I could maybe understand this. You go off to college, right? Into a new city and you just get invested in whatever it is that you're doing. I think that they found so much love for fashion and just their life in New York City that maybe that's what pulled them away. Interesting. You know? Yeah. The article, it says that, and this is a quote from people who knew them

and worked with them. So this was from a Hamptons insider who spent time with Mary Kate during her marriage. So she said, Mary Kate was very clear about hating the paparazzi and the public nature of what her career as a child star had brought her. She felt like she was hounded too much and it was too much to handle.

I couldn't imagine the level of fame that they had from Full House. Think about that. That was like a staple in all of our childhood lives. Now, okay, so that's not what I was expecting at all. I thought you were gonna say like they were, they have no personality, they're kind of mean, they're kind of stuck up, they like things a certain way.

I thought that's where you were going with this. That doesn't surprise me at all because you have to think about the fact that they were as popular as they were. I mean, they had brands, I think they were the first people to have, like the first celebrity influencers, like actresses to have a brand in Walmart. I

don't know that for sure. I'm just guessing. Or maybe it's the first that I knew about because that was like my time that where we grew up. But that doesn't surprise me because I mean, how many people do we know love that aspect of like, some people want to be actors or singers and rappers and don't want the rest of it. And yeah, it comes with the territory. But like Eminem rapped about it in one of his songs talking about he can't go to the bathroom without being left alone. Like he wants to do his craft.

He wants to do that whole thing. And he he appreciates the fandom, I guess, if you will. But like he also wants his privacy because he's a normal person. I would imagine it's the same for them. And that's, they've been, they've been popular since birth. So then going from the fame and attention and how popular they were to completely withdrawing

and nobody knowing what the fuck is going on outside of what they own, like the row and other things which is quiet luxury to go from that heavy in the spotlight to not at all. People are also probably like, what the fuck is going on? It just creates like this mystery that all of us want to uncover. And I just, I wish that I knew more about their lives. I also heard a rumor that Mary Kate and I believe now her ex-husband, who was significantly

older than her, that they had a habit of buying all of these places in New York City and never living in them. What? Like they would buy these places and never live in them. One of them was also connected to Heath Ledger in some way. I don't know if they were like dating or whatever, but one of them did just have a baby. I think that's Ashley. Ashley, I think so.

So it also said that former employees said that they talked so quietly in meetings that it could be difficult to hear them and that you sometimes had to interpret their hand motions to figure out what they wanted a garment to look like and an intern supposedly tried to take a photo of them in a showroom and now all of their interns are banned from the space. Ashley also supposedly doesn't like opposing opinions and fires employees very quickly. Okay, if you had to guess one or the other, who's the bigger bitch? Mary Kate. Ashley.

I'm saying Mary Kate. Why do you think that? I don't know. I think Ashley seems like a little bit more fun. I think that Mary Kate seems more fun, but I always was more obsessed with Mary Kate than I was. Me too. Growing up, when me and my cousin would be like Mary Kate from Two of a Kind, we fought over who was going to be Mary Kate because she was the cool one. She was like the sporty one, the tomboy one. And I was like, no, she's the more fun one

Ashley's seems like very type a to me I don't know. She just gives me Bigger bitchy vibes. I don't know. What was that movie that they played in? where She was like an orphan Baseball movie was it double trouble? No double trouble. I'll have to look it up, but that was like an orphan. It was like a baseball movie. Was it Double Trouble? No, it wasn't Double Trouble. I'll have to look it up, but that was like one of my,

you know, if I burn out a VHS outside of Missed Out Fire, it was that. I just can't, like, I need to know, like, do they have, like, fun personalities? Like, are they fun? They're just private? Because the firing and not wanting photos taken and like interns taking photos, like that doesn't surprise me. And also like,

I'm proud of them. They should have their privacy. They should be able to own these brands and be bosses and do what they want to do without people taking pictures. Like they removed themselves from the spotlight for that reason, but do they have a personality? Because the pictures, like, you never see them smile, ever. I think that's just part of their persona, though. And maybe it could be a whole branding situation. So you can't smile if you own quiet luxury. If you own the row, you don't smile. I feel like it's a said thing. Do you remember those like pill bottle bags that they had for a while? Yeah. Or the pill capsules?

I love the row. And I need to know other people's opinions about this. As I've gotten older, I very much like watch what it is that I'm buying and what I'm spending my money on fashion. Like if I know I'm going to wear the hell out of something, I'm more likely to I'm spending my money on. Fashion, like if I know I'm gonna wear the hell out of something, I'm more likely to spend more money on that. But I'm talking like the difference between Nike dunks and Chanel, like I'm buying Nike dunks. Like I'm not spending Chanel prices on something

that I'm going to walk on the ground. Like- No, I'm not buying Chanel shoes ever. That's never, I'm never doing that. Also, it was said that they run in very high end circles, which I'm not surprised at that at all. And they're known to spend a ton of money on groceries. Do you feel like there's a type of people

that only buy organic and probably have a chef 1000% as I'm sitting here eating a double cheese ad mac? Yeah. Okay. Well, I don't have any I need to know what the fuck they're doing. I wish they would do like an in depth I wish they would produce their own because then they can have it in their own words in their own way. documentary, maybe like either a one hour situation, two hour situation or a four part series of like, why? But I guess that creates no- Mystery. I think part of their branding is the mystery aspect. And that's why we're so

invested in why we want to know everything. I can just tell you right now, Mary, Kate, or Ashley, if you're listening to this, which I know you're not, but someone please send this to them. If they did create a documentary, I'm calling out of work. Oh, if they created a documentary, you will not find me until I've completely watched the entire thing, took notes, and recorded an episode about it. 100%. Cory and I recently got back from a week long vacation and I will say that I was so excited to get home, get into my favorite little corners of the house,

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Facebook and she was like, Hey, like, what do you think of this? And I was like, what the fuck am I getting myself into? And it was this video that went viral. She sent it to me on Facebook. I'm sure it was on TikTok or wherever else. And it's this mom interviewing, essentially, her small child that had to have been less than five years old, maybe three, four years old. And she was saying, if you ever get separated from mommy in a crowd, who do you look for? And she was like, I have to look for the biggest, meanest looking biker that I can find. And her mom was like, well, why would you look for somebody like that? And he was like, because they will move mountains to get me back to you or something

along those lines. Like basically looking, seeking out somebody that looks identical to this description. And my cousin asked, she has three kids, and she asked me, how do I feel about this? And so I basically said, I don't think that I support this. And I'm going to tell you why. I think teaching your kid, if they get separated, to look for someone so fucking specific is wasting their valuable time trying to get to an, just a responsible adult in general. Right? So you're actually creating a little bit more danger. This is just my opinion. This is not a fact. I believe that you're putting your child in a more dangerous situation because they have

it in their heads that they have to look for this very specific person. What if the biker man wasn't around? What if there isn't one? So now this valuable time that is ticking by, your child could have looked for another mom, somebody … You know what I mean? I just felt like that was really weird. I wrote down in the minutes that they could find a woman or a mom, they are frantically searching for someone that fits the biker description. While I don't believe all bikers are good or all bikers

are bad, I certainly wouldn't teach my own children to seek out any man at all. I'm not seeking out a bear or a man. My kids can go be with the bear because I don't trust men. We recently went to the state fair and I told my kids before we left, because I took six kids with me. I said, if you get separated and you don't know where your phone is, you need to find a mom. That's what I said to my kids because a mom is going to think quickly, in my opinion, and most likely be like, okay, let's figure this out and have actual critical thinking skills. Not that some men don't, but I can't imagine being a lost child. It's so ingrained in me from two, three, four years old that I have to look for a big biker.

Right. Okay. This brings me back to the 90s when our parents would kind of like cut us loose in Walmart when they added the grocery section Yeah, we wanted to go and look at like other shit We were always told like go to customer service if you can't find us, right? Like there was something very specific like at each store Like this is where you go if you can't find us. I would never

Be okay with my child thinking. Oh, I need to find like this specific where you go if you can't find us. I would never be okay with my child thinking, oh, I need to find like this specific type of person. Because what if they just like keep looking for that specific type of person until they find one? Like that could be a very long period of time. Like I can't, Lux is seven, you know, next week. And I can't imagine him it just being so ingrained in him to go look for this big biker like off the top of my head at the fair I

Don't remember seeing any bikers like I wasn't actively looking for them, but I also like I know I saw moms I know I saw dads. I know I saw employees like I know I saw those types of people but a biker specifically No, but now that makes me, because I'm guilty of this. I've always told Jackson, like, if we're in a crowded place, like we've been to like little local concerts and stuff. If you get lost, like find a police officer, like maybe that's not the thing to say. I don't think so,

because there wasn't police officers where we were. Yeah. I think it depends on the setting too. Like, if you know that you're going somewhere specific and like a fair, for example, I'm going to tell someone to look for a mom because most of the time it's parents taking their children, right? Or if we're going to the movies, I might tell them to find an employee, go look for the person that took our tickets.

So I think it's more about having a conversation prior to getting to the place. But also there are some kids that will follow directions specifically to a T and it just freaks me out that you would teach your child to look for someone and was so vague about it. It wasn't like you were saying, oh, we are going to, like I'm trying to think of something where like a ton of bikers might be.

I don't even know where we would go where there might potentially be like a big biker. There's a lot of biker gangs here in Delaware, like a ton of them. Elijah's dad is like the head of one of them. And my friend Emily, she's in like the girls club of the biker gang or whatever. And so like they're everywhere here. But again, like, I can't think of a place where I would go and see all of them or one of them inside. Like Elijah's dad doesn't just like stroll around in the jacket. You know what I mean? So it would be such a weird, I don't know. And to be perfectly honest, I don't know as a

little girl, if I would feel comfortable going up to a biker, like I think I would be scared to death. And like that may be true that some will protect you to the ends of this earth. That may very well be true, but I'm not teaching my kids to go seek them out in the valuable, very, very important minutes of, you know, a separation. That's not who I'm teaching. I don't, like I said, I can't think of a place where I'm like, okay, tons of bikers would be there. Yeah. So what's the answer though? I think have more importantly, if you just teach your kids to look for a parent, like a mom or maybe a dad, depending, or just making sure that you have that conversation

every single time when you're about to go in a crowded space, I think would be the most important. Like, okay, we're going here. Make whoever the description is that you're gonna tell your kids to look for, make it appropriate for the setting that you're going to. Okay, this sparks another question for me. At what point do your kids feel comfortable

enough to go somewhere like out of your site and not get freaked out because I have not reached that point with Jackson yet. He is very timid and public or if he knows like he might go an aisle over from where I'm at. but let's say I'm in Target and I'm looking at like grocery stuff. He's not going to wander all around the store and feel comfortable to do that. So Lincoln's been doing that for quite some time. You're like, absolutely not, Jackson is a no. Lincoln has been doing that for quite some time.

So I can't really speak on him. Would I let Lux do it? Absolutely not. Nope, he's seven and it's not happening. Um, no, I think that it depends on the child cause I never let Isaac do it. Isaac never did it. So the fact that Lincoln's doing it, he's the second child. It's kind of unfair, but Isaac also never really asked me to or tried to, or did

any of that where Lincoln, I think, um, some of the things, and this is obviously no shade to Javi, but like Javi was raised a certain way, I think, some of the things and this is obviously no shade to hobby, but like, hobby was raised a certain way. And so some some of those things are happening with Lincoln that I know, from conversations with hobby that that's, you know, what he did, and everything was fine. So I think it just depends on the child. I wouldn't let Lux do it. And I would let Lincoln do it didn't let Isaac do it. So I don't know,

is it like like personality? Yeah. I think awareness, like the child's awareness, Lux, I think would be a little bit more oblivious if there was like danger. I also think that he, like if we were to go on, when we were at the fair, for example, he did not want to go up and like ask someone for, you know, hey, how many, how tall do I have to be to be get on this? Like if the thing wasn't visible, he didn't want to do that. So I think when what you're describing for Jackson, that's

how Lux's personality is. So where Isaac now he's 14, he would now, but he never would before. Yeah. Like for example, if I told Jackson, Hey, can you go and ask that man that works at Target if they have any more of these? He'd be like, no, why can't you just ask him? Because I don't want to talk. Yeah. That's how Lincoln and Isaac were and are.

So personality. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Cause I was doing it forever. I mean, I was walking very far from my house at like seven, eight years old. So I think it just depends on the kid.

How did you survive? I don't know. After I wrote Pride Over Pity, my aunt told me, oh, do you remember the time that you walked to our house to ask us for food? And I was like, no, I don't. Now that you say that, I remember it, but I don't know. I have no idea how I survived. I have no clue. So I don't know if you have been watching the Olympics at all. I've caught a little bit of it just being like in restaurants because I don't have a functional kitchen and I don't have internet. So I've not been able to watch anything.

But as I was catching up on the news, are you aware that there is a convicted child rapist that is competing in the Olympics. No, I haven't watched any of the Olympics because I don't have cable and I just haven't had the time. These last couple of weeks, I've just like pin a whirlwind. I did catch one race that was recorded and put on TikTok and I think it was Shaqari winning the USA got gold for the sprinting. That's the only thing I've seen so far. Okay. So before I get into this, I want to know everybody who is an Olympics watcher, what is your favorite thing to watch during the Olympics? Because mine's gymnastics.

Mine used to be figure skating. Was the figure skating a part of the Olympics? Yeah. Don't you remember? What were those girls' names that got into that knock-down drag-out brawl back in, was it like the 1996 Olympics? Kristen, what were those girls' names? I feel like I did a book report. Yeah. Do you remember that drama with Nancy Kerrigan and Tonya Harding? Okay, I don't know if I watched figure skating on TV or if it was actually part of the Olympics because I have no the only person I know is Tara Lipinski. Okay, well, I was gonna did Tara go to the Olympics. Okay, so that is the own so I watched figure skating. And then I, I think I

liked gymnastics. But that's like the only thing I ever knew about the Olympics. And then I found I liked gymnastics, but that's like the only thing I ever knew about the Olympics. And then I found out later when like the Kardashians got really big that Bruce Jenner was an Olympic gold medalist maybe? Yes. I also like to watch men's basketball during the Olympics. Love that. And so does Jackson.

So this guy is 29 years old. He is a Dutch beach volleyball player. And he was greeted by booze on his Olympic debut in Paris. Um, he was sentenced to four years in prison in 2016 after admitting to three counts of rape against a 12 year old British girl. Oh, so this wasn't like a case of like, I'm 18, you're 16, and that's technically rape sort of situation. We're talking about like a 12 year old child. Yes. Yes.

So because he's qualified for the Olympics, that means that we're going to allow that, allow him to continue? It's insane. So it says that he served just 12 months of his sentence and some fans at the Olympic competition and in the shadow of the Eiffel Tower voice their disapproval. There was very mixed response for this. And I guess I, I just can't support anything like this, considering the fact that if you, because that is a violent crime. Okay, I'm going to take a second to talk about all the messages and posts and comments that

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two year age gap, but it's technically rape. Because I do think that that happens. But I can't get, like doing something to a child and then getting to be able to participate in the Olympics. So now, wait, so does he get to participate and then basically ignored this or how, what is happening? So allegedly what happened with this situation with this 12 year old was he met the victim on Facebook, traveled from Amsterdam in 2014, raped the girl

in another place, served 12 months of his sentence and is now competing in the Olympics. The Dutch Olympic Committee says that he has been successfully rehabilitated and he's fine. How old was he when he did this in 2014? Well, just take the year of whatever it is, 2024 to 2014. 10 years. 10 years. And he's 29 now. So he was 19 years old and he successfully rehabilitated.

I think the fuck not. Yeah. Like why does he get to, is the, okay, this is a dumb question. So we know that the Olympics is held in France this year, right? And all of the countries participate and blah, blah, blah. The Olympics as a organization and as a brand, could they have said, no, fuck you, you cannot participate? Like just because all these countries are entering their people and their people are qualified and things like that, doesn't this, like, should we be boycotting?

I don't even know. Like, I don't even know what the solution would have been here. I don't know if the Olympic committee would be held to some type of liability for not allowing him if he qualified for them not allowing him to compete. I don't know what that whole process looks like, but it says that the

international Olympic committee has faced calls for an investigation into how a convicted child rapist has been allowed to compete in 2024, but insists it has no plans to prevent this man from competing in the games. Why? Like I can't get behind this. I cannot get behind that. I cannot get behind that. I absolutely just can't get behind this. I cannot get behind that. I cannot get behind that. I absolutely just can't.

I also, I mean, in light of new information about Gypsy Rose Blanchard, I previously supported her and I also can get behind some of the things that she's doing. And there's just a lot. I don't understand how we're letting this slip through the cracks. And I don't know if you remember the um, the situation with Larry Nassar or Nassar, however you say his last. Yes. So after everything with him and the Olympic committee going out and saying

they're going to protect athletes, I just find this to be a very wild move. There also is an Olympian as young as 11 years old competing this year. I believe it's a skateboarder. Okay. So they'll go above and beyond to protect athletes for the situation with Larry, but they won't go above and beyond to potentially protect more athletes in this situation and people that are going to the Olympics. Correct. Like just spectators.

You're not going to protect those people who are supporting the Olympics? Right. No, I can't. That's not okay. And I can't help but think, I understand they said that, you know, he has been rehabilitated, whatever, at his age, whenever this took place. And the fact that he met this girl on Facebook and then flew, raped her, and then left and went back home. 12 years old is a baby.

Think of Jackson and Lincoln. I know. Like they don't even, like Lincoln doesn't even think about girls, let alone sex. I know, I know. They're just so, they're so innocent. Like Lincoln and I fight about fucking bouncing a ball in the house. Like I don't

how can you do that to a child? Like I don't under honestly, everybody failed to allow this through. I think everybody failed. I know anyone who's listening if you believe that he should have been allowed to compete, if this should have been an absolute fuck no. I would just like to know your thoughts. Fuck off for free. He can go back to jail.

He's going to jail. He needs to go to jail. That's where he needs to be. Also, last thing that I want to say on this, do you think that 12 months served is really enough time for someone to serve for raping a 12-year-old girl? Absolutely not. That's me speaking insane. No.

Nope. And speaking of safety on this episode, I want to talk about these tips that I think you and I probably had when we were kids. This was just like common knowledge, but I think with like social media and just the way that things go today, I feel like, and I know that you said that you didn't really like, like I got a lot more freedom because I didn't have parental supervision, right? But I feel like now, because I'm a pretty supervising parent and I would say you're the same, here are some rules for going out with your friends, like to teach your kids. This is friend code and how we grew up, I feel.

Code number one, we leave together, we stay together, we come back together. No you're not leaving with some random dude and no, I'm not leaving you at any party by yourself. Which I think that today people forget that. They're like, oh, I'm going to go with this guy that I met off Instagram or, oh, I'm not leaving you out at any party by yourself. Which I think that today people forget that they're like, Oh, I'm going to go with this guy that I met off Instagram or Oh, I'm going to go with this guy that I met off Tinder. No the fuck you're not. Isn't that fucking insane? When my friend bone was staying with me for a little bit and she would go on Tinder dates,

I literally would make her send me the location and like give me a rundown on who it was. Like I'd be like, send me a picture of this guy because I'm like, I need to find his driver's license. No, literally, I need to know who you're with. And I will call the police if necessary. Um, code number two, both of us can't be shit face drunk. Neither of us should be really at least one person in our click needs to be alert and aware of our surroundings. I feel like that that is kind of like a cardinal rule. But I also

feel like nobody follows that rule. Well, now that there's Uber, I feel like nobody follows, but also I know too many people that have been charged with DUIs because they think that they're okay, or they got it under control, or they do this all the time. I think with Uber and things like Lyft and stuff, they kind of, people do like all drink

because they're like, oh, we don't need a designated driver. But I still just think in terms of like date rapes and just other dangerous things, it's important for not everyone to be drunk. Number three, if one of us needs to go to the bathroom or outside, we're all going to the bathroom or outside, which I think is also important. I don't care if I've been drinking. I haven't been drinking. I typically always have a buddy go into the bathroom with me at all times. And guys will say it is so weird that girls all travel to the bathroom together.

Well, it's fucking probably weird. And we've been conditioned to be this way because number one, our parents taught us that, right? Like that was ingrained in us from being little, like stick together, stick together, stick together. Oh yeah. A hundred percent. It's not weird.

It's normal. And maybe if everybody else around us wasn't fucking weird, then we wouldn't have to go to the bathroom together. I also encourage my boys to stick together with their friends. Like we went to an amusement park the other day and I said like to the older ones that wanted to separate. I'm like, you guys have to stick together. Like I don't care if someone goes to the bathroom, go with him because I just, you'd never know. Like there are people who prey on little boys and there are also times where boys can be accused of things that they

didn't do. So I just feel like if with the second part, but also we know that boys can do things together that they wouldn't normally do a lot. But I just feel like with the second part, but also we know that boys can do things together that they wouldn't normally do a lot. But I just feel safer with them in pairs or multiples. Number four, we don't accept drinks from strangers unless we're at a bar watching the bartender pour which is important. I know on one of the other podcasts, we talked about angel drinks or certain bars will have a code word in the girls bathroom for alerting people. I didn't know that angel drinks was a fairly wide, fairly... An angel drink is like you ask the bartender for an angel drink because you are letting them know

that you're in danger. But some of the other bars will have different codes in the bathroom that that bar specifically knows about because the chances are that the women would go to the bathroom, see the code or whatever the word is, and then let the bartender know. The problem with this is that not enough bartenders and establishments are doing that. And I feel like that would be really helpful or making it obvious in the bathroom stalls because if you're trying to go signal for help and nobody's on board with what this like code word is, also I think that people are like, oh, that would never

happen here. We don't have to worry about it or they just don't even think about it. I think it's more important than you would think. Five, if you're too drunk to function, we're leaving the party early. We can fight about it later. Honestly, that needs to be a staple in every friend group. I don't care if you're ruining my time, your safety and our staying alive and staying together is more important. Number six, if you go missing, I'll give you a maximum of 15 to 30 minutes to show up before I shut the place down and we all start looking for you. I don't know how I feel about that. 15 to 30 minutes is crazy. I would just say if there is not good feelings, things need to be shut down quickly.

Number seven, if you're fighting, it better be one on one. If you're fighting, it better be one on one. Otherwise we're all in it together, which I think is also important. How are you going to let someone go into a fight and they're getting jumped or something? That's not happening on my watch. Number eight, the golden rule, the drop off person checks in or everyone who drove checks in when they get home. And if we don't hear from you, we're coming to your house.

Okay. That's a big one, a huge one for me. And nothing makes me angrier if I don't get a text that someone's gotten home. Like I send the courtesy texts to be like, Hey, I'm home safe. I expect you to respond to let me know that you're fucking home safe also. Yeah, yeah. I just think that we get into these routines

and I haven't gone out in a while, but like I see my friends do it or people that I'm friends with on Facebook and they get into the like routines of not necessarily following these rules because they think, oh, like it's not gonna happen to me. Like they literally don't even think about it at all, but it really could happen to anyone.

Well, actually I don't wanna say the location like where this happened, if anybody could like identify it. But one of my girlfriends told me that at just like a local bar around here, she bartends up. She said someone came in there, dropped a roofie and a girl's drink, raped her in the alleyway of this bar. Girl went and had a rape kit done and it took like multiple months before this man was ever arrested.

That's terrifying. So how many girls did he do it between the one that he thought he got away with till he got caught? How many more girls, women were victims? And this was like a hinge or tender date situation, which is like why, I mean, there's various reasons why I wouldn't be on a dating app, but it just very much weirds me out that no one has enough sense to like do some due diligence before they just randomly meet up with somebody that you don't even know. I just, we don't have to do the one-on-one thing. If you are meeting someone on a dating

app, we could go be in a crowd somewhere. We could all get together with our friends. You bring your friends, I'll bring my friends. We'll meet in a public place. It can be like a group outing. Did I ever tell you about when I first started dating Trent? We met in person, he and I. I swear to you for the first six dates, he didn't realize that he was signing up for group dates because I brought a buddy with me every single time. It wasn't the same friend every single time, but I brought someone with me every single

time until he eventually was like, am I ever going to get to go on a date with you without any of your friends being around? And you're like, not yet. Not yet. Evidently not yet. I've got to make sure you're not a Ted Bundy. No, but I just got so scared and I didn't really have a reason to be scared. I think I just had like a bad situation before him that I was a little bit fearful.

So I wanted to feel out the situation. And he was a newly single dad, so I kind of also was putting that into consideration and being like, okay, well, if he's not gonna be for me, maybe he could be for one of my other friends. You know, so I didn't want it to go sideways and then him just be completely ostracized. I don't know, I just felt like a sense of guilt. I always say, do a buddy system.

And if, you know, a man gets pissed off because you brought a buddy with you, then he might not be the right one. I agree. I'm all for the group dates until you really feel comfortable with someone. Coffee Converse podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp. I feel like a common theme going on lately with myself and a lot of people that I talk to on a pretty frequent basis is that we are living in an era of comparison. And I don't know about you, but comparison can definitely be the thief of all joy, especially in my life. I definitely get affected by it.

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I saw this and I guess for incidentals essentially, or is it for booking her spot as a guest at the wedding and paying for her plate kind of thing? So it says that- Well, it isn't a mistake. Guests do have to input credit card details in order to accept or decline invitations, give menu choices, et cetera. It basically, it doesn't really say why, the whole article, it doesn't say why, but my guess is either to pay for their own plate and secure their spot or because

if you cancel, then you get charged. For me, when I got married, it was $150 per plate. In my opinion, they're doing too much. If I have to charge someone's credit card or I'm asking for credit card details, I'm just not having a big wedding. Why are you inviting these flaky ass people to your wedding? You don't need that type of energy at your wedding. Okay. But I'm just telling you, if I got a wedding invitation and then I was asked for my debit card information, why do you need my specific debit card information?

You're probably asking everybody else for it as well, but why am I not as a responsible adult being asked to your wedding to book my own shit? Because I think it's like a, this is just my interpretation of it is that it's like a per plate situation. So like if you RSVP yes, and I pay for the food for you to be there and you decide last minute that you're not coming, I still have to pay for this plate of food. So I think it's like an incidentals type of thing. Oh, I see what you're saying. So if they don't come, then they're going to have their debit

card charged for that plate. That's what I got from it. Otherwise it's like, okay, maybe it would be like the wedding gift, like monetarily giving that sort of gift? I don't know. See, stuff like that just gets so sticky to me because I don't think that you should be, let's just say hypothetically, I just had a friend who passed away and I had a wedding to go to this weekend and I RSVP'd that I was going to be there, but couldn't go and do that. Are you really going to charge my debit card because I had a legitimate reason to why I can no longer come?

Well, personally, I think it's crazy. If that is the type of energy that you need to have for your own mental wellbeing, then maybe it would be better off not having a wedding at all. It just feels weird. I don't think it's weird to say on the invitation, accepting monetary gifts like that doesn't bother me at all because I do think that like etiquette wedding etiquette says like you should pay for your plate. Like that is what you should give as a gift. But to request because also what happens if they have like all the credit card information or your debit card information and they just hold on to it?

You know what I mean? Like that just feels weird. I mean, I just don't think I don't care how close of friends I am with that person. I don't think I would just be fine with possibly my credit card information being on a post-it note hanging around somewhere. Like that would make me feel so fucking uneasy. 100%. The next person says, when you were a teenager, did you get randomly volunteered by your parents to help family because you needed something your family would also be there to help you?

Is it wrong to volunteer my teenage son to help my aunt who is not in the best of health and literally bends over backwards for us when we need it? And even sometimes just because she wants to help my aunt who is not in the best of health and literally bends over backwards for us when we need it and even sometimes just because she wants to help. It's summer break, he's 13, doesn't have a job and it was like three days notice the day to help. No, I think that's fine. I mean, if you're one of those people that's like, oh, we need to go help this person and we have to inconvenience our entire, I don't know. That specific example, yes, I think that's fine. I don't know. If I wasn't willing to like help also, I wouldn't volunteer my 13 year old.

Oh no, I took it as like they were both helping. They were both helping. But I'm not gonna go volunteer my 13 year old kid to go help her if I'm not also helping her. Yeah, but I would be totally fine if I'm just like in this specific situation. And I told Jackson like two days in advance, hey, don't think that we're doing anything else on this day because we're going to volunteer our time to do this. I would also be volunteering my time alongside him.

Yeah. Like I don't think that Susie did the best job raising me, but I don't see her ever sending me away to go help someone and her not also doing it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know. I just, I don't know. How do we feel though? Okay.

So I was having this conversation with someone two days ago about people having expectations for help that are unrealistic, right? And when you move out of your parents' home, for example, because that was the situation, you move out of your parents' home, and you had lived with them, let's just say until you're 18 years old, and they work you like a workhorse on your last year of life with them before you move out because you're like, okay, in my case, this bitch is going to be gone. So we need to go ahead and get the good out of her before she gets gone. Okay. At what point is it excessive to continue calling your kids to come and help

you do stuff that they did whenever they lived with you, but they no longer live with you? The second that you move out, do not call me for the stuff that I did when I lived here. That's how I feel. That's how I mean, Elijah and I have had those conversations. You have your own home now. We live here together. The shit needs to get done at our home where we live first before you go help anybody else. That is how I, that's what I stand on. Don't tell me you're headed to South Carolina for a week to help some other family member until everything in this around this house is done That's exactly how I feel about it. I'm like, okay, you know, I know you don't read the Bible But biblically your family is what is under your roof

You cleave way from your parents and when you create your own family that that is your or should be your priority. Correct. Correct. Um, I don't need a man who needs to tell me that my grass isn't getting cut because his mom's grass is getting cut. No, my grass gets cut when you fucking live here. No, absolutely. Don't ever in your fucking life come to me. I'm not speaking about Elijah. I'm just speaking in general. We won't fucking come over here and you're talking about that you're going to help so-and-so but you had a list of shit that you were supposed to,

our house needed to be pressure washed, our white weeds needed to be picked. If you have responsibilities here, don't offer your services somewhere else, period. Like if your honey do list is not done, I think you just need to stay here until it's done. Now there are certain circumstances where it's like, okay, I can understand that, but they're like just like a regular like scheduled situation where it's like, okay,

well my grass needs to be cut. Okay, well so the fuck is mine and it hasn't been done yet. So that's going to get done first. I just think that that's insane. When you move out of your parents house, the responsibilities that you had while you lived under that roof look very different whenever you're gone. Correct or incorrect? 100% correct. And don't you ask me to come over there and do shit that you were very capable of doing. You just don't want to do it. Because

you had to do it. Well, do you know, Kale, when I was in middle school and high school, I turned down my parents' bed every single night of my life. You did that? I did. Why? Took off, they're like comforter that they didn't sleep under.

They slept like under a duvet. So I would like fold up all this stuff, like really nice and neatly and take all their decorative pillows off and put their like sleep pillows on and would turn it down turn my dad's TV on every night in my life. No. I missed it when I left. No, because he absolutely did. But here's my question. How did you get that responsibility? Like when did that become your responsibility and how and why?

I don't really know. I think it was just like, my dad would be like, can you turn down our bed? And then I just eventually, cause I did it so many times, I just eventually like did it every night without being asked. You know what I mean?

No, I don't. And I was never a cooker when I was growing up, but I was a major cleaner. And so every single night, no question asked, I would clean up all the utensils and stuff that Julie used to cook. Every time she- That one is okay. That one I feel like is like, okay, pretty normal,

pretty fair. I can't imagine, and I'm just more shocked than anything. I'm not trying to judge. I just can't imagine. I feel like one, that's like eldest daughter syndrome. Two, I can't imagine asking any of my kids to do that for me because it's like my bed. Maybe like go turn down your own bed. Go prepare yourself for bedtime

and then you can come back down for a little bit, hang out and then your room and stuff will be done for bedtime but like I don't, how do you feel about that now looking back? Like, are you okay with that or how do you feel about it? I mean, I think it was a way that I could show my parents like I don't know, this is going to probably sound weird. Like, I respect you and I'm appreciative of you. I can't like

provide anything monetarily here, but I can do something for you. But that's not what your purpose of life is. Like, parents should not have children to do stuff for them. Oh, I think that in the South, it's maybe a different thought process. I think it's like you just have a lot of kids and then your kids eventually get old enough to be able to do all the things that you don't want to do. Like to take care of you? Yeah.

My brothers cleaned out the garage pretty much every weekend. So you felt like as a child and growing up, you felt like this was a way to show your appreciation to them was to do things for them. Yeah. And like if I would bake ever, I would always ask my dad, like, what do you want me to bake so that he got something that he wanted? Like I would never say, I want these cookies, so I'm going to bake these cookies. I would go in his office and say, hey, which one of these cookies do you want?

Or do you want another kind? This is normal for the South? I don't know. Maybe it was normal for my life. So does Jackson do those types of things now? Or would you not want him to? Let's not even get into what Jackson doesn't do because the amount of dirty clothes that I found upstairs

when the movers started moving shit, he evidently doesn't even bring his dirty drawers to the laundry room. And no, I would never ask him. In a way, and I think that there's always levels to everything, in a way I love this because I feel like it teaches you one, like I appreciate you. So I want to show you that.

And, you know, clearly you know how to take, you're very good at cleaning up and like, you keep your things tidy and like, it taught you those types of things. But on the other hand, I'm like, you are a child. I don't necessarily think that it was fair for you to need to do certain like cleaning up the dishes, I feel like it's pretty fair, pretty common. But like turning down their bed, I

feel like, like a little maid, like I just don't I don't know how I feel about that. But like, it's like a toss up, right? Because you've got really good qualities and life lessons from these things. And like, are you Because you've got really good qualities and life lessons from these things. And like, are you, do you show love and like, wait, like acts of service? Like, is that your, do you show love? I think that's why I showed my parents.

Okay, okay. Yeah, because there was nothing else that I could do outside of like acts of service that would have mattered. Like I would, for Julie, for example, I don't wanna get too long into this conversation and we can have it at another time if you want. But like when I would get into the car,

she would always be like, you're the best purse cleaner out there. And I would get a bag and go through all of her trash, through her purse, organize her purse for her, like every week of my life. But that example makes me feel like she used you in that specific example. But I wouldn't be doing it during times that I was doing anything else. This would be like if we were riding down the road and I would go to get something out of her purse or she would

move through a drive-through, for example, and I couldn't find anything in her purse, I'm like, fuck this, I'm cleaning out this purse because I don't wanna weed through it. And this is the fucking mess. No, because we need to have an in-depth combo about this on another episode because I need to do some research. I need to ask some people, and I'm not gonna use your example, I wanna just ask them, like,

did you perform acts of service for your parents to show your appreciation? Because in some ways, like I said, like it teaches you discipline, it teaches you certain things. And in some ways, I wish that my kids did certain things. Like I wish that I taught them, hey, you need to do this and actually stand to it, like stand with it, stand on it before we can do anything else. But like, I feel like I haven't been consistent in that way. But I also don't want them to feel like maids like I had them to do something for me. So we need to go in depth in this on this and another episode, please.

Perfect. Let's do that. I will give you time to do your research and prepare. Okay. On that note, we have foul play. This woman says I am sharing the foul play for my husband. I don't know if this is for her husband, about her husband, for us. She says, my husband had an operation on his testicles when he was younger. He was in the children's ward because he was 15 at the time. He woke up in the afternoon pretty out of it still. The ward was busy with lots of people walking through. Then a nurse walked over to him pretty quickly. She wouldn't make eye contact with him and kind of looked away and she shut the curtain around his bed. Oh no. He said he looked

down and noticed that his gown had lifted up in his sleep and he had been sitting there with an erection. So embarrassing. Of course, because you know when you have trauma to the body, the blood flows there to try to like heal it up and do whatever it needs to do. So aw, poor thing. I have a question though from this. Is morning wood common for every man? I think so. Like most men, yeah.

But like what causes it? Just blood flow probably. Because when Will and I were in college, I didn't know that that was a thing because Most men, yeah. But like what causes it? Just blood flow probably. Because when Will and I were in college, I didn't know that that was a thing because I had never been with anybody before, slept with a man. So I was like, what the fuck is that?

Like, why is it like that? And we did all of this research on like, why men have morning wood? Is it like a sexual thing or is it just like your body responding to something or like an involuntary response? Like, what the fuck is that? I think it's involuntary.

Yeah, I mean, let me Google it. You can even babies have it. Yeah. Is morning or are morning boners involuntary? This is spontaneous and does not require being awake. Some men may experience nocturnal penile tumescence during non-REM sleep as well, particularly in older men. The reason for this is unclear. The reason men wake up with an erection may be related to the fact that we often wake up coming out of REM sleep.

So REM sleep. Kristen said, wait, what babies get it? Yeah. When I first saw Isaac, I don't remember who said it to me, but someone was like, don't be alarmed. Like it happens. It's just not like it just happens. See I was like, is it broken? Like, what's going on? I, I thankfully was prepared. Because obviously we found out he was a boy at birth. And they were like, it might have been a nurse maybe even told me. It's like, it's okay if that happens. But like when they wake up in the

morning, and you try to change their diaper immediately, like I would just cover it back up. Yeah, you just got to cover the weenie up. It's like, Just wait a few seconds and then, and then go back. Cause yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Definitely had that experience. So I need to also know from other women who are listening to this are wet dreams, like still common in grown men. You just get peed on just from the air hitting, I think probably taking the diaper off and then just the air hitting it. It'll just pee. It doesn't have anything to do with the blood flow. They just pee and you forgot to put a diaper. You didn't move quick enough.

Okay. Here's my question. I don't know if you even know the answer to this, but do grown men outside of puberty still have wet dreams? I think so. You think they do? Yeah, maybe not all the time and maybe not all men, but I think it still can happen. Also, just sort of on a sexual note, which is highly disturbing,

did you watch tell them you love me? And if you didn't, we need to discuss. I watched it months ago. Oh, okay. So we will be- That was the name of it. Oh, okay. So we will be- That was the name of it. Okay, so we will be following up with that and having a discussion about that

on the next episode of Coffee Compass podcast because I'm disturbed. I'm a highly disturbed and concerned. Outside of that, we have one more foul play. Oh, okay. Oh Lord, this would be you having to read it about a church. In church with the whole school for annual Founders Day service,

Bishop gave the Lord's prayer. In the split second of silence after the amen, someone near me cut out a really loud fart. I try not to laugh out loud by grabbing my nose. Massive nosebleed ensues. Have to walk out of the church bleeding profusely from the face and laughing hysterically. Get outside to find one of the art teachers and one of the English teachers kissing. They

looked quite embarrassed and freaked out at the blood soaked cackling 14 year old that had discovered their romantic trist. Okay. Why does everything that is shady happen at a church? Well, that's a great question. That is a fantastic question because I think that people who go to church still sin, like they're no better than every other person that doesn't go to church. Like sins are still happening.

I think it just is like, you look at someone who claims to be super, super holy, and at the end of the day, yeah, you go to church, but you're no different than the rest of us. Oh, 100%. No, I agree with that. A hundred percent. And I always say Christians give Christians bad names. Also, there is a saying, you know, that went over like a fart in church. Listen, church can be so silent and you could hear a pin drop. You could hear a fart. You could. It's just not,

I don't know, like sometimes it's a little uncomfy. So I'm sad that this person had this experience. And I'm also like weirded out. Did you ever try to like spy on your high school teachers? Cause you were convinced that like something was going on. No. Oh, I did. Well, did you find any tea? No. Oh. If you were a Lindsay in this situation, then go read The Teacher by Frieda McFadden.

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