Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Time Square Chaos & Alabama Rush

Episode Date: August 22, 2024

CC368: Lindsie is highly concerned over the state of Time Square after a recent visit with Kail. AND KAIL DROPS A CASUAL SURPRISE! They answer some listener questions like: is Lindsie getting back wit...h Will? Is Kail considering IVF or adoption? Are their disagreements worth fighting about? Lindsie informs Kail on the Alabama Rush season and the viral story that has come out of it. Today's Foul Play has Kail reminiscing about her tummy trouble bad bowel era.    Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsor! Chomp: Sign up for their email list and get 10% off your first order at Chomps.com/COFFEECONVOS.Just Thrive: Save 20% off a 90 day bottle of Just Thrive Probiotic and Just Calm at JustThriveHealth.com with promo code COFFEEProgressive: Visit Progressive.com to learn moreRocket Money: Manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/COFFEECONVOS

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convo's with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family, and life in the public eye.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsey. Wow. Welcome to Coffee Convo's podcast in person. anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kailin Lindsay. Well, welcome to Coffee Combo's podcast in person. I was gonna say that but you stole my line. Where are we? Bitch stole my look. Lizzie McGuire, you are an outfit repeater. You are an opener stealer. I did not outfit repeat. I brand repeated but I did not
Starting point is 00:00:41 outfit repeat. Where are we? New York City. Do you love it or hate it? Times Square. I love it. I hate it. What? I'm like Marshawn Lynch. I'm only here because I have to be here. Stop.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Wait, how often do you come to New York City? Twice a month. Right now, three times a month. Okay, so the other day I was having a conversation with an unnamed person and I know that everybody hates when I do that but you're just not finding out. And he was like, why is Delaware a state? Because it's the first one. But I didn't know that information. Delaware is the first one. It's also like has tax. No sales tax. We have no sales tax. What about state tax? Yeah, we have that. Why don't y'all have sales tax? Because we're the first state.
Starting point is 00:01:23 So you guys get to buy stuff and you don't have to pay taxes on it? Correct. And all the banks are there. So like Capital One, like the big credit cards are in Delaware and like the best place to have an LLC formed is Delaware. Do you have to live in the state to have an LLC formed? No, ma'am. So wait, explain why there's no taxes on goods.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Like so you can go and buy a sandwich there. I don't think there's tax on food though Yes, your sales tax on everything Well, George Washington said let there be tax-free. How do you know it was him because he was the first? Noted technical president. We just found that out today. No, you just found that out Today too. I was uncertain. Okay, which means that you got confirmation today. Okay, so if I go to Chick-fil-A, I pay 6% sales tax on my Chick-fil-A. So what you're saying is you get to do everything cheaper than me.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Correct. It's rude. Yeah. But you know what? You can thank Javi for that. I can thank Javi for that because if it wasn't for for him I wouldn't be in Delaware. We love the military How you doing today welcome to coffee combos podcast where this is gonna be a shit show where there's shit and there's a show Um, I have a lot of questions to ask you in fact
Starting point is 00:02:41 First thing I want to ask you is have you brought your kids to New York City? Yes. What parts of the city do you guys travel to? Times Square. That's the conversation that I want to have with you because as much as I love New York City, I think I might like the suburbs. I don't like what's going on where we're at. It's no offense to anyone. But yesterday when I walked out of that hotel, the level of culture shock that I had immediately slapped in the face with titties. And saggy booties. Yes. But I loved that for you. I feel like you really needed that to start your day. Truly.
Starting point is 00:03:21 No, I didn't. I could have gone without it. And the crazy thing is, is I was talking to the makeup artist this morning and she said, here's the thing, people who are from New York and live here, grew up here, whatever, none of that is relevant. It's like you're just walking. It's so normal that you don't notice it anymore. Well, I also think that people that are from New York
Starting point is 00:03:43 don't willingly come to Times Square. I think that's probably true. I think they hate Times Square's guts. But here's my issue. Jackson's wanted to go to New York City since pets came out. Okay. You know, like we are going to be one with the pets. We're absolutely not going to New York City after what I was slapped in the face with
Starting point is 00:04:02 yesterday with the naked grandma cowgirl. We are not. What would his reaction be to that? I honestly don't know. And then it took me back mentally. Everything that I was trying to process was remember the conversation you and I had about tampons and I was like, he doesn't even know what that is. And you said, you know, your kids know all about that, whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Good and great. My child doesn't know about that. And yes, am I sheltering him? Yes. And do I love the suburbs? Yes, I absolutely love the suburbs. And do I want my child to see that? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Because he's 11 years old, puberty is about to start, and I don't want him to see stuff like that, have questions about stuff like that, and think that women should carry themselves like that. You might like Hoboken. What's that? It's a little city sort of on like the, what would you call it? Would you call it the outskirts? It's not far from here.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Hoboken's in New Jersey, but it's like not far from here. My cousin actually lives there and her husband commutes to the city. It's really nice. It's quiet. It's kind of wealthy actually. I mean, it's not to be judgmental and I'm sure it's going to come across very much like no that's judgy. It's Times Square. There's fucking unhinged shit here. It's not you're not being judgmental. It's literally unhinged. I'm pretty sure everyone's on crack. I'm pretty sure I got a secondhand high off of just walking to an Irish
Starting point is 00:05:28 pub. Okay. What was the vibe of the Irish pub? Also, what is the food like in the middle of Times Square? Because I feel like there is their mom and pop restaurants around here. Is it just like the Olive Garden? No, I mean, they have Olive Garden. I saw it. I saw it too. They have like Krispy Kreme, Dunkin, Starbucks, like all those things. But then on the side streets, I feel like it's where they have more like one-offs. I like the like authentic places, like the little hole in the wall. Like that's more my vibe. Same. And you will find me at the hole in the wall. Yeah, I love that. That's what I don't love that I have to go by Naked
Starting point is 00:06:02 Cowgirls. When I tell you and I did take a picture of this and I probably shouldn't have and I'm probably going to post it on Instagram and yes I am, I felt so sad for her. For who? The grandma naked cowgirl. I felt so sad for her. There was a piece of my soul that was like she's not whole and that's why she's out here doing this and thinks that that is okay and normal. Like what is her life process
Starting point is 00:06:28 when she wakes up in the morning? Like she puts on her little panties and her boots and her guitar. And I love that for her. I love that she's a little free spirit and like she's doing her own thing, but like you're painting your nipples to like cover them up and everything else is like slinging out.
Starting point is 00:06:44 So there was years ago a naked cowboy. Do you remember that whole era? I was a kid when that was. I remember coming here for Teen Mom reunions and there would be like the naked cowboy. I think Chelsea and I might've even taken pictures with the naked cowboy at one point. Or was it Chelsea?
Starting point is 00:06:58 Maybe it might've been Leah. I don't know who it was. But like was it Dick out and everything? Like what goes? I mean he was wearing essentially like a Speedo, like tighty-whities with his bulge out. Yeah, for sure. And we were children basically. So you fall ahead of it. Yeah. Like the outline of the shroom. Yeah, for sure. I'm appalled. I'm appalled. Yeah. I mean, New York is such a unique place that
Starting point is 00:07:17 like we can be appalled and respected at the same time and love it for what it is. That's like you and me, right? Like you have to take me for the chaos that I am and you might not do a lot of the things that I do, but you love me the way I am and vice versa. So it's sort of like, you have to truly look at New York as a whole and just be like, we love you for what you are. I look at New York and I say, that's Kale. This is not for me.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I got city slinging everywhere. Yeah, you know, you kind of do. In fact, another thing that weirds me out is what is the deal with all of the freaking costumes all over New York City? It's a moneymaker. But at what point do you wake up and you're like, I'm going to be Spider-Man today? Because they know that tourists, especially kids, like children, will pay money for that. They're going to and like, it's like, Oh, get a picture with Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:08:06 And then you have to pay them once the picture is taken. So they don't tell you that happened to me one time before on another trip that you and I came on, I was just roaming the streets and that was back in the superhero days. Any person that has a boy child, we've all gone through the superhero phase, right? I walk into Starbucks and I see all these superheroes and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna take these pictures of these superheroes for Jackson. No ma'am, I wasn't even in the photo
Starting point is 00:08:32 and the way that they chased me. Oh yeah, I mean, that's their, so that's like what the idea is behind that. And so like, you're like, what is, when do you decide that you're gonna wake up and put these costumes on? Well, at the point that they're making good money and it's worth it.
Starting point is 00:08:45 But I wonder how much money they make. I would love to know on a regular, like on just an everyday. Would you do it if you knew it was a lot of money? I honestly think that next time we come here, we should try. No. We should, we should do an experiment.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I'm not doing that with you. Why not? Because I'm talking about what I don't like about this. I have to come here next month. Maybe I should dress up in a costume and see, I could give you market research. I have to come here next month. I true Maybe I should dress up in a costume and see I could give you I would die if you did that I Absolutely die Fiona Remember that one time you were walking in those heels and you were like, I look like a dinosaur
Starting point is 00:09:17 I look like a team. I feel like you need to be like that t-rex costume You know that has like the little arms that are up. I'll fucking'll fucking do it. Like I'll put a Spider-Man costume on. I don't really care. And you're going to go in the streets. Yes. One thing that I did love about yesterday, which you probably didn't love about yesterday, was the fact that there was just a church service going on in the middle of Times Square, naked cowgirls like all around everywhere.
Starting point is 00:09:42 They're trying to get through to her. Costume people all around everywhere. And I love the fact that it's like a melting pot. It is so culturally diverse. I love that part. But I hate the part, if I wanna bring my child to New York City and I'm going in Times Square, I don't want him seeing,
Starting point is 00:10:04 naked cowgirl drop something on the ground and you see your whole lips hanging out. Yeah. I mean, I understand. Also, I mean, here's the thing too, is that like because you guys aren't close to New York and Jackson hasn't been here, I think he would notice stuff like that where like my kids are around this kind of sort of thing all the time. They've been in New York more times than I can count. I think they're so desensitized to it that they don't even recognize like, I don't think they would point out the naked cowgirl. I think that's the point that I'm trying to make that I do not want my child to be in a state of being desensitized or
Starting point is 00:10:40 something like that. Because then where do you draw the line? Where you draw the line? I mean, desensitized in the sense of like they don't see it. They don't see it, right. Because they're just looking past it. I don't want him to get comfortable with seeing it where he would look past it because to me that's an issue to me as a parent. Okay. If that is the case, okay, are you bringing home some girl that doesn't care about how
Starting point is 00:11:04 she carries herself? There's like no standard there, there's whatever. I don't want that. Right. It's like, no, we're gonna go to church, we're gonna cuss like the other days of the week and, you know, do our thing in the suburbs. Right. No, I get that. I think there's, there's always caveats to everything. And one of the things about what we're talking about is you also run the risk of kids that are super sheltered just like while in the fuck out. Yes, and that is what scares me. You are exposing your kids to stuff,
Starting point is 00:11:38 whether it's a choice or just by happenstance, right? I'm not. And so am I going to run a bigger risk when he's grown than what you are with your kids? I think that there's probably a happy medium. I'm sure that somewhere but you can't help where you live. I can't help where I live. So it's like one of those things that's like, we're doing the best we can for the circumstances that we're in. But you know, people in New York here every day, they don't, they can't help it either you know what I mean?
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Starting point is 00:13:46 signed up for tattoos. Yes. And I'm highly concerned about your level of regret after these tattoos. Like I'm concerned for you because I don't know if you're going to have regrets immediately following getting them. Like where are you placing them? Because I'm scared that you're going to be like, why the fuck did I do this? I don't think I'm going to because I've been wanting to do this for years. Okay. And I just never have. And I've had the ideas of the tattoos that I want for years. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:12 But can we just have confirmation on this fucking podcast in front of all of these victims, if you will? Yeah. These... That you're not gonna blame me for this, because this was in fact your idea. It was your idea. And I will not be known as the influence who caused you to run amok through New York and get tattoos.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Okay. I'm doing this on my own. My biggest concern is, is it going to be left hand or right hand? Oh, you're going on your hand. No, like I mean arm. Okay. You know, like which, which one and how do you make that decision? Kristen's husband brought up a good point to me. He said, choose the left because everything
Starting point is 00:14:49 that you're putting on your arm is close to your heart. What the fuck does that mean? Because your heart's on your left. I think that's made up. It is? I'm pretty sure. Did Corey bamboozle me? I don't think that's right.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I think people just made that up. Where is your heart? Yeah, the fucking pledge I see in the peripherals. We are not an educational podcast. No, I think if anyone wanted to strengthen their brain cells, this is not the podcast for them. No, where is your heart? Okay, but like, here's the real question I have is like, do you actually think with your heart? Or do you think with your brain? My heart always?
Starting point is 00:15:21 No, you think like, your feelings come from your brain? No. My feelings are so deeply in my like your feelings come from your brain. No, my feelings are so deeply in my soul. That's not your heart. It's a part of my soul. I don't I truly don't know what she's thought because now it's like, no, I can give you an example. When my parents said, Are you sure that you want to get this divorce? Are you thinking that more with your head or with your heart? Like both, but... No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking scientifically.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Can you speak? Scientifically speaking, our thoughts and our feelings and all of the things, it's actually like our stomach, like our gut and our brains. There's nothing in the heart, so I don't understand. Do you get what I'm trying to say here? No, because you're wrong. No, do you get what I'm trying to say? When you are taking a test in school? Yeah. And you're anxious, that's coming from like your gut, right? Like the anxiety is coming from your gut. And then the answers to the test are coming from your brain. I feel like that anxiety is coming from my thinking which is my brain.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Probably not. I don't feel like it's coming from my guts. It might give me bubble guts but it's not coming. The heart is in the front of your chest. It sits slightly behind and to the left of your sternum. Slightly. So like. So I think I'm going left. Okay well if you love left then let's go left. Let's do it. I don't even know where I'm going because I don't have any space left so we'll see. Kayle, you signed up for five tattoos and you have no space left. I know. Wait, are you married? No, I'm not married. Then why
Starting point is 00:17:01 is that like that? Well, this is like the ring that they give you before you get married. Then why is that like that? Well, this is like the ring that they give you but wait before you get married. Oh, you're engaged. Yeah. Were you gonna announce that to anybody? Absolutely not. So I just put you on spot. Yeah, absolutely. You did. So Elijah will be extremely happy. Yeah. Can I borrow it? Yeah, sure. I mean, it's definitely not gonna fit. You'll have to put it on. Let me see. Oh my gosh. Look at that. I wear a size 10. So look at that. I wear a size 10, so. A size 10? I wear a five.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Oh, wow. Very, y'all, Kale's engaged. Kale is fucking engaged. When were you gonna tell us? Well, because- Was this a secret? Like, am I being boozled? No, it wasn't a secret. It's that I can't, I couldn't really make an announcement
Starting point is 00:17:45 because I couldn't give you like a time that he asked me to marry him. It was just like this, like, when are we going to get married? When are we going to get married? When are we going to get married? It was like asking me to marry him all the time. And then one day he just showed up with a ring. So like which one was he like on any? No. So how did this play out? Well, I was like. I'm like, didn't take him seriously, if I'm being honest, because he didn't have a ring.
Starting point is 00:18:10 And so it was just like, we both been married already. So we both don't care about the whole get on one knee, make it all romantic and stuff, because that's just not how we are. We all are each other's next victims. Correct. And so I was like, you know, let's just, we'll play this by ear. And I'll let you know if you have a ring one day, we'll like reevaluate and then he came into the bathroom while I was getting ready. And he gave me the ring. What was your reaction?
Starting point is 00:18:33 I was like, Oh, my god, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I actually think he did a good job picking it out. No, I think he did a great job picking it out. But I think that I would have wept and canceled my entire life plans for the rest of the day. Oh, I think I'm recording with you afterwards. You did I think so and then you just it was just like so casual Yeah, you know how you said that it like you don't like when people are casual I don't like being the center of attention surprisingly like believe it or not So I don't like don't ever get on one knee because that makes me embarrassed and you don't like opening gifts in front of people So I don't like don't ever get on one knee because that makes me embarrassed. And you don't like opening gifts in front of people. No, like truly would have been happier if he left the ring on the table and walked out. Wait, what? Yeah, like, why are we making this a big thing?
Starting point is 00:19:12 No, if you are not, if you are not telling me everything that you love about me and why I'm the only person for you and why, like, we have to do this because it is like a piece, I am a piece of your soul. I'm upset. Elijah is a man of very few words. If he said all of that, I would not believe him because I'd be like, this is not you. I feel like you do well with a person of few words. Yeah, I do really well. I just, I worry for him taking him places because I don't want him to get overwhelmed
Starting point is 00:19:39 or like feel like sometimes when I'm nervous, I stutter, I sweat, I do all of those things. So like, if he's already an anxious person, I don't want to put him in a position where he has to be uncomfortable. Do you fart when you get anxious? No. Do you? Sometimes. Someone's proposing to you and you're just silent but deady.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Okay, got it. Got it. Got it. Okay. That could happen. Actually, one of the questions from our listeners was, Lindsay, are you dating? Yeah. Okay, got it. Got it. Got it. Okay. That could happen. Actually, one of the questions from our listeners was, Lindsay, are you dating?
Starting point is 00:20:07 And if so, how is that going compared to previously and kill your future plans with Elijah? Elijah, married or not, adoption, IVF or no, any future business plans together or anything like that? I feel like we've got to take this one question at a time. Okay. Very long-winded. So, you obviously really love us to want to know that much about us. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I am absolutely not dating. Actually Kail and I were in the Uber earlier this morning and I said I just don't feel like I'm there to be able to do that. I don't know if you ever felt like this but now that I'm not, I don't know how I would have time to. Now that I'm not, I don't know how I would have time to. Now that I'm not, I don't know how I would have time. Yeah, no, especially like back to school. He's in football, which is a huge commitment.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Like you're on a work trip right now, it's the weekend. So I just, yeah, that would be really hard. That would be hard. And now basically all of my travel for work was halted within my last relationship. I feel like I gave everything to that. And now that I'm back available to travel, within my last relationship, I feel like I gave everything to that. And now that I'm back available to travel, I couldn't imagine what it would be like
Starting point is 00:21:09 being in a dating situation anymore. Also, I think it's probably in my best interest if I'm being 100% transparent to just pause on the dating and inviting anyone else into my personal circle and I have things from my past that I need to figure out. Also, you specifically are big on energy in your house and stuff. You just moved into a brand new house. Do you want to bring someone else's energy into that right now when it's brand new? No.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I don't want to bring someone when it's 15 years old. Same. You know? Also same. Hold on because going back to the whole thing, and also just Elijah proposing and things like that, or lack thereof. I mean, I feel like he proposed, but whatever. I came across this like self proclaimed relationship as expert. He's like a relationship coach, which I was talking to Kristin last night. And I said, what classifies you as a relationship coach, right? Like I feel like people should trust me because I can tell you what the fuck doesn't work. I have four baby daddies, so I will be able to tell you what works and what doesn't.
Starting point is 00:22:10 And so now going into a relationship and being with Elijah, like this is the last one. If I'm not with him, I'm gonna stay single, right? Like I feel like I have enough experience and I've dated enough people and then married, divorced the whole nine. I would be a better relationship coach than someone who has a perfect marriage, right?
Starting point is 00:22:26 Right. Yeah, I agree. So I kind of got upset. Like, why are these people taking these like online courses with self-proclaimed coaches? This guy says his name is Jack Maddock or Jake Maddock. And he says that if a man does not tell you clearly, like clearly stating I love you within 12 weeks, he is not your ideal partner. So I wanted to see what your thoughts were there.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I don't know. I think I probably would used to believe that. But now I think as I've gotten older and been in more relationships, I think it's like the slow and steady wins the race. Like that love bombing type situation at the beginning where everything's so new and it's like I just I love you I love you. No because you don't because you don't know me well enough to know if you love me. Like how can you know all parts of me in 12 weeks? I mean sexually maybe.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Like a lust situation. Yeah like a lust but to know me like to my core in 12 weeks to know if you love me, you don't. I can agree with that. I do think that usually you know, though, like you might know this is the one. So like, in a way, you're like, okay, I know I love this person, but is it the like, sustainable love? Because I think you can love people differently. Actually, can we have that conversation? Because I thought my last time was the one. And through all of the dating situations that I've been through over the last couple of years, I realized that's not the case at all.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Like was he never the one you think? Or do you think that you could have worked it out and made it work? Yeah, no, I think anything anything if you try hard enough at something that you can make something work but you're giving something up by making it work. Okay. And I'm not willing to do that. So it wasn't the one?
Starting point is 00:24:15 Why would I do that? No. Or you wouldn't do that for anyone? No, I wouldn't do that for anyone. Okay. Okay. And I don't know if you felt like this after you got divorced from Javi. He's gonna come for you.
Starting point is 00:24:26 He's gonna send you an email. Okay. Well, my email's on my Instagram. Email me. But after you got divorced from Javi, did you ever go through a state of, was that the right decision? Yeah, for a long time. Even now.
Starting point is 00:24:44 And not that I like wish that I was with him, obviously, but like just grand scheme of things. Could we have prolonged it? Could the divorce itself have went differently? Could we have done it more amicably? Could it have been more clean and cut and dry? Could we have not gone back and forth for so long after the fact?
Starting point is 00:25:00 Yeah, I think was that the right decision? And if it was, did we do it at the right time? I've asked myself all of those questions more so recently than I ever have before. And maybe it's because I'm healing. I don't know. But I'm asking myself all of those questions right now. And it's one of the hardest places to be. Let's face it, life can be stressful, it can be overwhelming, and it's just not your mind that suffers when you're feeling tense and anxious. Stress can make a mess of your digestion and immune system too.
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Starting point is 00:27:45 with post divorce that we didn't have those liberties and freedoms when we were married? Also yes. Now I have made a huge move and I'm in what I consider my dream home and I plan to stay there and Kristen's probably looking at me like, bitch, you better stay there. He's in what he feels like is his dream and long-term home. What about it is his dream and long-term home? Just like he wanted to do all the reno projects and things like that, that's what he wanted? Yeah, just imagine The Notebook,
Starting point is 00:28:18 Ryan Gosling, The Notebook, he went in there and started ripping shit out and that was not what I was doing. I mean, we're going we're heading into 2025. It's possible that you guys could be together and not live together. Like that's real. That's a thing. That's an option. Remember when I actually talked about that on the podcast? No, I don't about Courtney Kardashian and Travis Barker. Do they live together? They didn't for a long time. They didn't for a long time. Like he had his house and then she had her house. I don't know if he still
Starting point is 00:28:43 has his house and she has her house. I don't know. But to me, that sounds like a gravy boat that I want to ride. For sure. No, I mean, Elijah owns the house in front of me. If he ever was like, I think I'm going to move back into my house, we're like, okay. We're right here. Go you. Yeah. We could spend a couple nights together, a couple nights apart, and you have your space and I have mine. I definitely am an advocate for that.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yeah. You know, it's like as long as there's no like hanky panky going on with anybody else, then yeah let's sign up. I mean we're just reinventing marriage. Would I get remarried again? That's the question. Yes. To will. Because you've been married and divorced to will. Would you remarry will? That sounds so crazy to even say yes. I mean, probably because I already did it one time. Or would it be like that one, like you got that, that's your husband, you're his wife, but you're not actually- Wait, do you feel I need, I'm going to get canceled by somebody after this podcast. It's fine. You can replace Brooke on Tana Mongeau's podcast.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Do you think that you still consider Javi like your husband? No. What? No, I feel like once they're your husband, like they're just like forever in your mind, your husband. Like even if you divorce them or is that just a testament to where I'm at? The situation between you and Will, he's still your husband. That's your husband, that's not your husband, who's still your husband.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Do you know what I mean? It's not the same for Javi and I and myself. No. Javi and I and myself? Yeah, because I is not correct. It should have been Javi and me and then I just changed it to myself. So it's not the same between Javi and me. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Yeah. Okay. Okay. So marriage or no for you and Elijah, I don't know where the adoption IVF question came from. Cause we briefly talked about like regretting getting fixed and then maybe giving Valley a sister. But I think we're beyond that now.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I don't think that that's something that we're looking into. And then adoption, probably not that now. I don't think that that's something that we're looking into. And then adoption, probably not right now. I think that once kids start moving out, that would probably be a potential, but also with the state of this economy, they might be living with me until they're 30. So we just don't know. Right. Also, if an opportunity, I don't want to call it an opportunity. If there was a situation that presented itself that made sense for us to do it between now and then, fine. But I don't think we're going to like…
Starting point is 00:31:06 Like you're not seeking it, but if it found you. Correct. Got it. People want to know if we have any future business plans together. Yes, we are going to… Do stuff and things. Kristin's not going to let us say stuff and things that we're going to do. She's like, don't go out there and tell people all y'all's damn business.
Starting point is 00:31:27 We don't want to prematurely say anything that we've done that in the past where we've announced things before they were ready and then dropped the ball. We've had 15 business plans since we've been here. People want to know if it's difficult for us to work together and do our opinions on things sometimes make it harder to work together. This person says, FYI, I love when you guys agree to disagree and have respect for each other. It's one of the biggest reasons that I listen.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Oh, I love that. Yeah, we don't agree on a lot. But I do think that we're more alike than people think. I was going to say that. Yeah. So and I don't think that the things that we disagree on are things that are worth arguing about. I think me and Kristin disagree on things more than me and you. I think that the things that we disagree on probably are worth an argument if I was relationally
Starting point is 00:32:19 with you. If you and I were a couple and you thought some of the things that you think and I think some of the things I think, we'd kill each other. Well like the New York City thing. Yeah. Like it doesn't phase me. It doesn't phase you. Right. And so like especially when it comes to kids, like if we were in a romantic relationship,
Starting point is 00:32:35 you'd be like, my kids are not fucking going there. Yeah. Yeah. And you would be like, yeah, the fuck they are. Yeah. Okay. I could agree with that. Catch me outside. How about that? She just had a baby.
Starting point is 00:32:45 She did? Yeah, like semi-recently. Oh wow. Yeah. From Dr. Phil to a baby. Yeah. It's interesting. I don't think it's hard for us to work together because I think that it creates a cold dynamic.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Like we are friends, but we are the most unlikely friends. The unlikely pair. Yeah, right? Like nobody would if we were in a high school, for example, nobody would be like, those two girls are going to be friends. No, we didn't run in the same circles in high school. Like if we went to the same high school, we would not have been in every circle. Um, yeah, the least popular ones for sure. You ran in every circle. Yeah, you were in like the rush community.
Starting point is 00:33:28 That's college. I know. But like if high school had a rush. Yeah. Wait, is there not sororities in high school? I mean, you basically act like you're in a sorority that doesn't exist. I'm surprised they don't have that in high school.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Is that like a law thing or like what's going on with that? I don't know, but I wouldn't be advocating for it as much bullying that already goes on. Like, I don't think, but I wouldn't be advocating for it as much bullying that already goes on. Like I don't think we need to be advocating for sororities in high school. See, I didn't know that there was bullying. So yesterday, Lindsay starts telling me about Alabama Rush and I'm like, oh, she's telling me about how expensive it is and how like, whatever everyone wants to do it. And so I'm like, oh, if Valie wants to do that 100%, she's doing it like I would support her 100% give her the money, get all the jewelry, do all the things.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Then Lindsay told me that there was bullying involved. That is not something that I'm going to be. Anybody who is listening that follows Rush Talk, Kale did not follow Rush Talk. I am very invested in Rush Talk. I saw an article that popped up on today.com and it says, it's sorority rush season at the University of Alabama, which means one thing, Bama Rush is back. Bama Rush videos have been taking over TikTok this month
Starting point is 00:34:36 with potential new members sharing a glimpse into University of Alabama's complicated sorority recruitment process. Some of the most popular videos feature fit checks or outfit of the day reveals with hopeful recruits name checking the brands of everything that they're wearing that day. Who is name checking and where is the mom? What didn't you say there was like a house mom? Yeah, there's a house mom for the houses, but I don't know if house moms have anything
Starting point is 00:35:02 to do with like actual recruitment process. I don't think they do. Who anything to do with like actual recruitment process. I don't think they do. Who supervises the recruitment process? Because that can't be... Themselves. But that's like not appropriate. It also says in other videos, prospective members walk viewers through the rush process,
Starting point is 00:35:17 which begins with Convocation Day. That was August 10th. And then it culminates eight days later in bid day when young women hope to receive an invitation to join one of the university's 24 sororities. Rush talk became a viral situation. I don't know if you know this, but the viral trend even inspired a 2023 documentary titled Bama Rush, which follows the University of Alabama students as they vie for a spot in one of the university's coveted sororities It's literally everywhere. No, so if a campus has Over 20 sororities, right? What does that mean when you're rushing? Are you rushing for a specific? So like you're going and like basically auditioning for one specific sorority? Are you trying multiple or like, how does that work?
Starting point is 00:36:06 So I felt so bad because there is this girl and I think, what is her name on there? Morgan? Her name's Morgan, I'm not sure if her app. Yeah. Was it the girl I showed you last night? No, that's a different girl. But there is a girl that rushed last year as a freshman.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Her name's Morgan. Okay. After she rushed last year as a freshman, her name's Morgan. After she rushed last year, she was cut after the first or second day from Rush. Why? Maybe she didn't look the part of how they wanted her to look the part. Maybe there was something that she had done on the internet that they didn't want associated.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I don't really know. So she gets cut, that was as a freshman. She rushes again this year. And she also said that she didn't take recruitment very seriously last year. And she didn't, you know, participate and trying to have the best outfits and whatever, like she wasn't worried about her hair and doing all of these things. And she didn't really understand rush culture. So she goes and she's just completely misplaced, gets caught after one or two days. This year, she said that she took the recruitment process
Starting point is 00:37:12 way more seriously. She invested in getting these outfits, putting herself together, doing the outfits of the day, like all the other girls are doing. And she was still cut after two days. Because she already kind of had like the check mark next to her from the last year, you think? And it's harder to get into a sorority the older that you are. They want the freshmen coming in.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Okay. She was never getting in. She was never getting in because she doesn't look the part compared to the girls that I've seen. Which is sad. It scares me because my daughter is like if she was to want to go to a school like Alabama and she is not platinum blonde and she's not just white. And so already you have this girl's brunette and she's not stick skinny.
Starting point is 00:37:58 You know what I mean? She just doesn't fit the mold. She doesn't fit the aesthetic for them. Which is really sad. And watching her videos. I'm going to watch one. And some of the moms that have followed her since last year's recruitment process, advocating for her all over TikTok that she should have never been cut, it shouldn't be that cut
Starting point is 00:38:20 throat, like why is this happening? It's very clear to me when I see the videos of the other girls and then I see the video of her, how it happened. Oh, as soon as I looked at her, she does not fit the same, their aesthetic. I don't even know what to call it. I'm going to play this out loud because... But like, it's so terribly sad that that happened. I felt so bad for that girl. And how it works is on the first day, it's kind of like a meet and greet type of situation where the girls are meeting all of the sororities and the sororities are meeting them.
Starting point is 00:38:57 However, they have to send in a one minute application video ahead of recruitment saying why they feel that they would be good for that sorority. Do all of the sororities at Bama look like platinum blonde, skinny? Pretty much. Okay. Okay. So that was my first question.
Starting point is 00:39:17 My second question is in a sorority, what is, what are they applying to do to benefit? Like you're saying a one-minute video explaining why they would be a good fit for this like what what are they doing are they doing active activities on campus like what's going on yeah I mean like activities on campus they all have a philanthropy and like ours was st. Jude so you know we would do children's miracle network, whatever. Every sorority has a philanthropy that they stand by and they, you know, use their time to donate their time to these things. It's also paying for your friends. And that was my parents biggest issue with it. Oh, so they were
Starting point is 00:40:01 not supportive? No, no. Okay, so you're buying friends and then how much of the time is actually put into the foundations or the philanthropies? I wouldn't say a ton because I have not to justify not to justify being a part of something. Like if you're being a part of something to do a large amount of good, then I think that's fine. But if you're doing it to be a part of something and then you're doing something good to make you look good, that's a totally different thing.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I agree. That's so interesting. I mean, just in 24 hours, I went from, oh, I would 100% let Valli do that to 100%. I would not support that because I'm not gonna set her up and be like, yeah, you should go do that when I know that you are half black, brown hair, brown eyes. Why would you put yourself in that position where, and I don't even know, are all sororities
Starting point is 00:40:52 like that or is that kind of exclusive to Bama? No, I think it's an extreme at Alabama. And I think it's really sad too that these girls are going to school and first and foremost they should be going to school for their education, right? You will meet friends along the way, whether you join Greek life, whatever. It makes it easier for you to meet friends, but there's also a monetary value that is placed in joining Greek life that you have to pay your dues so that you can continue associating with these people.
Starting point is 00:41:30 When you see outfits of the day being anywhere from $4,000 to $14,000, I also have a question to the parents. You're truly setting your child up for failure later down the road because they can't sustain that. But I think it's these like, sort of like the one percenters, right? Like the top 1% of people, like these are the types of people that they are, they're birthing people to specifically perpetuate that cycle. Which is not, in my opinion, is not okay.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Like the whole point of going to college is to have the experience to meet friends, to be on your own without your parents, to get your education, to become an adult. And that doesn't have anything to do with your parents buying you $14,000 worth of stuff on one individual day of rush. Coffee Convo's podcast needs to do OOTD, Coffee Convo's Rush, and it's like, how many pieces can we get and have on our bodies for under $100? Right.
Starting point is 00:42:35 You know what I mean? Yeah, we should make that fetch. Because we should make that fetch, so Coffee Convo's podcast is gonna do Coffee Convo's Rush. So if you wanna be a part of this community, it's like, style your pieces that are like super affordable, super accessible. We love that and send us your videos and we'll put videos together of all
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Starting point is 00:44:07 Okay, so French Polvalter gets $250,000 offer from adult website after Olympic bulge mishap. Shut the fuck up. I saw that video. Hold on. Let me go back and look at it. Was it big? Wait, is it, am I a pedophile if I look it up?
Starting point is 00:44:24 No, I don't think you're a pedophile. He's grown, I think. Okay, hold on. Because I forget what it was. It big. I can't remember. Hold on. What's his name? Oh, he's 21. Yeah. Oh, I'm a pedophile. I can't look that up. Yeah. It says that he didn't win the gold medal at the 2024 Paris Olympics, but he might receive a quarter million dollars. He was sent an offer letter outlining the deal saying if it was up to me, I'd award you for what everyone else saw your talent below the belt.
Starting point is 00:44:50 21 year old athlete went viral during the 2024 Paris Olympics after he failed to clear the crossbar because his bulge got in the way. So now here's my next question. If he did in fact take up that offer would he be disqualified from a future Olympics? Well if you've got basically pedophiles competing why would it matter? Right? Yeah I mean if they're allowing that then they can allow porn stars as well. Yeah we got there slinging and banging honey. Yeah. I mean slinging that dick on the pole and then slinging that. I wonder if he
Starting point is 00:45:24 was in a lot of pain. I don't know. Do we think that's a myth though? When the balls are so sensitive. Do you have them? No, but like they act like babies when they get hit. I know, but I'm saying, do you think that we have been bamboozled like our whole adult life to think that men's balls hurt, but like they really don't?
Starting point is 00:45:43 I mean, I've always thought that, but because like you can pinch the skin. Like you're a liar. And like pick it up and it's fine. I'll tell you you're a liar. So like, why are you, but like the ball itself is sensitive. Like that's weird. I wonder if the skin on the balls
Starting point is 00:45:56 are kind of like your weenus. You know, like where you like do that and you can't feel it, like do that. You can't feel it. Luck said weenus the other day and he was like, you can't say that. And I was like, no, this is your ween is your weakness yeah um no i think it's a little smoother a little bit more like i would you know i'm saying about like the pain like you do this you don't
Starting point is 00:46:14 feel anything i don't think the balls it's the ball itself like the actual are you touching that Why are you touching that? I mean, I haven't recently, but... Recently? Like, the skin doesn't hurt, but the ball does. Oh, the actual ball inside the skin. Correct. So you can yank and pull and do all that with the skin and it's fine. With the skin, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:36 That's very interesting. I'm pretty sure. Can anyone confirm or would that be sexual harassment? So yeah, I think that's the thing. Did you see that Blake Lively tried to tell someone during an interview that like pregnancy cravings aren't real and like getting your feet rubbed is like taking advantage while you're pregnant? Did you see that? No, what?
Starting point is 00:46:54 Yeah, I just remind when you were like, or do you think that we've been bamboozled? Yeah. So this interviewer is interviewing Blake while she's pregnant and was like, Oh, like my wife is also seven months pregnant. And I'm, you know, rubbing her feet and doing all the things and Blake Lively like blows it off. And she's like, Oh, you're good. You're just getting taken advantage of. Like, it's not a big deal cravings. Not that not a thing. No, it's a thing. I ate a quick trip donut every single day of my pregnancy will want
Starting point is 00:47:21 to get it for me and a Coke classic every day. I found out I was pregnant with Lincoln because I was craving avocado and I never had an avocado in my life at that point. So I sat one of my girlfriend's house and she they had avocado and I'm like my mouth is watering like salivating over it never had it in my life. And I told my friend Tony and she was like, I think you're pregnant. I said, there's no way. I'm sure as shit I was, but like, explain that then Blake Lively. Are we calling out Blake Lively on this podcast? No, I think she's so tone deaf. I think a lot of things that have gone on with Blake Lively as of recent caused me to have somewhat of concern. I don't think that she actually lives in any type of real life, which most people would say I don't either. But well, I just learned she got married on a fucking
Starting point is 00:48:08 plantation. That's true. Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was fake. No, according to I mean, I can't verify, you know, I don't I didn't even see it. But on this tick tock where they're talking about her, they're saying y'all should have knew you y'all should have known this because she got married on the fucking plantation and everyone turned a blind eye. And I didn't even know that occurred. I'll Google it. Yes. They married in 2012 at Boone Hall, a formal plantation in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina. Oh, I know exactly where Mount Pleasant is. It's not too far from where I grew up.
Starting point is 00:48:41 But like who said that was okay? Like what? Again, I don't think that they regularly think when they do things. You know what I mean? And I say that I used to think that Lake Lively and Ryan Reynolds was what I wanted my marriage to be. Like I thought it was so funny that he trolled her. And that he was also in a relationship when they got together? Oh, no, I didn't know that part.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I just knew from the time that they got together, I loved the dynamic of their relationship. Very kind of like cold, callous, like I don't really love you but I absolutely am in love with you. I unfollowed her this morning. Oh you did? I was never following in the first place. And I just loved it. And now after watching the movie and seeing all the press and all the things, I just, I can't, I can no longer get behind it.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Someone had asked us what true crime story has left the biggest impact on you. Oh God, there's too many. I'm going Lacey Peterson. Like what lives most rent free in my head is john bennett Ramsey. I would there's probably a handful for me. I would say the black, the black Dahlia, john bennett Ramsey, Lacey Peterson, Casey Anthony. And I'm trying to think if there was there was this other one I listened to on the morbid podcast. And it was about, I believe it was in
Starting point is 00:50:04 Canada. And it was this, I believe it was in Canada. And it was this fucking wild ass story where these guys were, I think they were brothers and they would feed the bodies to their pigs. So there was no evidence because the pigs will eat anything. I feel like I'm going to win this one. And I think that from our listeners, what lives most rent free and most of our heads because of our age, it's John Benet Ramsey and Lacey Peterson. I literally watched this Lacey Peterson stuff play out over Christmas break, watching every
Starting point is 00:50:37 ounce of the news that was coming out. After watching the documentary, it's on Netflix. If you guys want to watch, it came out I think August 14th is it's on Netflix. If you guys want to watch it came out I think August 14th is when it was released. But American Murder Lacey Peterson, I thought they did a really good job putting that documentary together. It's a three parter. There was a lot in there that either I just did not remember because it's been so long ago or I never knew it. I would agree. I also previously thought that there was reasonable doubt for Scott
Starting point is 00:51:09 and I wasn't really convinced. Um, I went back and forth with that. Like I was absolutely convinced he did it. And then I watched other stuff and listened to the sh like podcasts and stuff about it. And I was like, Oh, I don't know. There's reasonable doubt here. But after watch, I finished it last night, I watched all three parts back to back to back. And the absolutely 100% convinced that he did it. Yeah, he absolutely did it. And there was a ton of stuff that again, like, I think I missed it. December 9th was like premeditated and nobody knew he had it and then also telling his girlfriend at the time that same day that his wife, he lost his wife. So it was premeditated too. Like I don't think it was like a spur of the moment and you checked the Baytides and not the fishing information.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Which is insane. Yeah. So like just those little things specifically that like, I don't know if I was too young or I just kind of overlooked even just as an adult, but refusing to take the polygraph and no one knows. Which was weird. That was something that I wanted to point out. He was quick to say that he would do it when he was in the initial interview, but then never followed through.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Here's the thing though with the lie detector test, and I still think, I've said this before and I'll say it again, we should do them because the thing about polygraph is like, I know that they're supposed to tell you if like you're anxious or whatever around a lie, right? But like I took a polygraph test and they were asking me questions like, is today Tuesday? And the answer is yes or no. I knew it was that day I said the truth and I was so anxious that I was scared that like the amount of anxiety that I was having even though I was telling the truth and I was so anxious that I was scared that like the amount of anxiety that I was having even though I was telling the truth because I'm under this test. Like just the fear of it not like, what is the word I'm trying to say? Like it picking up my anxiety, even though I was telling the truth, I could see why someone
Starting point is 00:52:56 would be very apprehensive. But did it say that you were lying when you answered the question? Like you were not like it said, I was telling the truth, even though I was so anxious, but I could see why someone would be upset. But my other question is like, didn't he not get a lawyer like early on? Why didn't you get a lawyer from the beginning? Because I think that it made him look guilty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:18 But then you turned around and made yourself look guilty. I think it was kind of like a mental thing of I am smart enough that I'm going to get away with all of this. And if I go and get a lawyer, it shows that I have something that I have to defend. And I think he was just very aloof about the entire thing. I could not imagine lying to somebody about having a wife that is pregnant and you're going to go and shack up with this other woman who
Starting point is 00:53:46 has a child that does not belong to you and you never wanted kids, but that's an option. But now you've got your wife pregnant and she's due to deliver at any time and you're just going to kill her off. Well, see, I don't think that it was to Scott as deep with Amber Fry's. He made her feel like it was. I think that there was never intentions of him like staying with her either. Using your unborn babies nursery as like a storage unit and like clearing out the house and like wanting to sell it and sell her car like when
Starting point is 00:54:15 they closed out the entire docu series and like one of the final things that stuck with me was that he really thought that she would go missing for several weeks and then everyone would forget about it. That's what he thought was going to happen. He thought he was going to go on and it was going to be like she was missing and then he could kind of pick up his life wherever he left off. I think that's why after they started searching the water, why he kept going around every day that they were searching to see if they were going to bring up anything. Or like were they looking in the right location? Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:56:22 when using all of the apps features. So this is your sign to stop wasting money on the things that you don't use, cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to rocketmoney.com slash coffee combos. That's rocketmoney.com slash coffee combos, rocketmoney.com slash coffee combos. Any other thoughts on it? Yeah, I have, I had just a couple, couple. The picture of him and Amber at the Christmas party and he the detective presented to him and Scott was like, you don't think that's me, do you? Yeah. Like, have you lost your fucking mind?
Starting point is 00:56:55 Like you haven't bleached your hair yet, sir. And like, that's exactly what you look like. And then I put going to check the boat search at the bay is crazy. The detective was spot on when he said that Scott went to ream. And then I put going to check the boat search at the Bay is crazy. The detective was spot on when he said that Scott went to check up on the boats to reassure himself that they weren't looking in the right place. And I think that's insane. Also going on a 90 mile away rendezvous excursion to fish just to get your boat in the water
Starting point is 00:57:24 on Christmas Eve does not make sense to me when to get your boat in the water on Christmas Eve does not make sense to me when you bought the boat two weeks ago and no one knew you had it. So like that was weird in the documentary too. I feel like he said that he didn't tell them about the boat because he wanted it to be a surprise for Lacey's dad. Her stepdad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:41 But then he told the neighbors he was going golfing. Well, you told the neighbors you were going golfing because you didn't want them to know that you had a boat because you knew what you were doing. You're creating an alibi ahead of time. You were planting the seed that you were going to be gone. You were going to be golfing all day. But who goes? I would be pissed off if at eight months pregnant, someone decides to drive an hour and a half,
Starting point is 00:57:58 two hours with traffic away from me when I could technically go into labor at any time. And it's a holiday that I would imagine that they were the type of people celebrated. I think what was so infuriating about the whole thing to me was that Scott's family doesn't believe he did it. Like you live in a state of absolute denial and delusion because if you are committed to this, like where then and explain it. They want, they wanted to investigate the burglars across the street even further but like whether it was on the 23rd or it was on the 26th like they narrowed
Starting point is 00:58:29 it down either way everything else adds up and even if they burgled the house on that one day explain why Scott was in the area where her body was I think that as parents you never wanted to believe that you raised a child that was capable enough to do this. But here's the thing, they explained it in a way that one of the parents came to the marriage with three kids and then the other parent came to the marriage with one kid and then Scott was the golden child.
Starting point is 00:58:55 The problem is that this felt like a nature versus nurture situation where they basically created this golden child who was so entitled and so self-serving and so narcissistic and sociopathic that I feel like it was more of like a nurture thing because he was the golden child and treated as though he could get away with these things. I mean, he was never wanted kids. It didn't to me even seem like he really wanted to marry Lacey. Like it was just whatever was going to serve him at the time. So I think that, which is so interesting to me because I feel like, especially Isaac being older, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:29 he's about to be 15 and he knows what traits a sociopath has or like someone who's just like, and he always asks me about my relationship with my relationships with the other kids and like can recognize which one, which ones are more surface level and which ones are deeper. And so to me, it's like as siblings and parents of this guy, you don't see all of the signs that are like blatantly in front of your face? No, I think that it again is a state of delusion. Like I have multiple siblings, your kids have multiple siblings.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I think if we were in a position faced like this, all of us would be like, okay, I could see how that happened or like I have doubt, not a complete state of delusion of no, like they didn't do that. That entire family has maintained his innocence. And I don't know if that is because they know that he could potentially get out. But at the same time, if you were a family member, and you know that he did something so heinous, why would you want him out? Like that to me is selfish. But that's what I'm saying. Like there's so many other families that I we've seen in the media where like they're gypsy Rose Blanchard, like they even admitted that that Dee Dee was capable of like the
Starting point is 01:00:46 whole Munchausen by proxy situation. You know what I mean? Like they were very aware. So what is the difference between that family and Scott's family that they would? I don't get it. I don't get it. Make sure that you guys watch the new Scott Peterson docu-series on Peacock that releases on the 20th and we will be discussing that as well.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Yes. And on that note, foul play. Hi ladies and kitty gang and fluffers. So one time when me and my ex were together, we both had the flu and we were both stuck in the house. Out of boredom, we decided to have sex to make each other potentially feel better. Well, that makes they probably shit on each other. Yeah, exactly. I thought I hated sick sex, but turns out I was extremely wet. More than ever before, so we were going at it hard. We were so in the moment that it didn't occur to me that being this wet was weird for me and I just thought it was a side effect of being sick. But after we were done, we turned on the lights and looked
Starting point is 01:01:37 around. Our room looked like a murder scene. I realized I actually started my period. When I say it was everywhere, it was everywhere. We were going so hard that it splattered all over the walls, the mirrors, everything. Oh dear God. And because we were both so sick, I could even smell the blood. Oh, I didn't even smell the blood. But honestly, I learned that sick sex is extremely worth it. Love y'all. Keep it going. How do you feel about that? Are you a have sex on your period girl?
Starting point is 01:02:02 It doesn't bother me. I'm not going to seek it out, but yeah, sure. But I'm not like that. I've only ever- That's truly unhinged. I would be terrified. I've only ever had period sex with one partner and one partner only and probably never would do it again. That is the most foul-
Starting point is 01:02:20 Could you imagine? Well, I told you I had an ex that was obsessed with my period. I told you this. You've had a lot of exes that are no, but he wanted to touch it. Like he always wanted to touch it with his hands. Touch it. Yeah. Like he wanted to be like up in it. It was the weirdest thing. We let him put his fist. No, I'm not saying I let him know. Like this was his bread and butter. Who was it? Oh, I could have guessed. I could have guessed. That is-
Starting point is 01:02:47 It was the weirdest fetish. But what, that is so weird. But this? Maybe he's a serial killer. He probably is. Yeah. He probably is, but like, I wonder if this would be, like turn him on.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Ma'am. This sounds like it would turn him on. What? You know what I mean? Blood splattered on the walls and mirrors. Yes. There ain't nothing that's not cleaning that up. Like now you did it so you can have my teams coming. Honestly, like I'm gonna go take a shower. You can scrub this down. Because you did it to me. You did it to me. You penetrated. Yeah. So you
Starting point is 01:03:15 made the mess because when you pulled out, it definitely like sprayed for sure. No, I think it was more like this. It was like a like it clapped like we slapped and for sure. That's exactly what happened. Is that what happened? I know. That's exactly what happened. Okay. Next, next foul play. I've been an A1 since day one. Well, I'm glad you are. And B, I'm here for you girlies newest era. Happy, healthy, healing, looking fantastic on you both. Let's set the scene. I am a new mom to two children. I believe my son had just turned four months and decided I would take him and my daughter three at the time on our first Sammy C's Sam's Club trip as a trip. The nearest Sam's Club is about 30 minutes away so we are getting ready to go.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I feel a little bumble guttish before we leave but when I used the restroom everything was dry and fine. I thought maybe it was just from taking breastfeeding supplements on an empty stomach and it passed. Wait, what's breastfeeding supplements? Like you can take certain things that help you produce more milk. Oh wow. And for our whole shopping trip it seemed to pass. We all survived pretty happily really and it was a happy shopping trip. We load up our start, we load up and start our route back home, which again, usually 30 minutes. Here's where the trouble starts. We get on the interstate to get home and everything is fine, but then we run into standstill traffic about five to 10 minutes into the drive, lower
Starting point is 01:04:40 abdomen cramps hit. I'm literally trying to breathe through them and I'm like I'm having my third child. I'm sweating bullets, white knuckling my steering wheel for probably an hour. The baby starts crying so I get him out, nurse him and get him situated back in his seat. My daughter is hungry so she crawls in the back and rummages through all the snacks that we just bought.
Starting point is 01:05:01 We are still moving and now we're we still aren't moving and now there's no way to get out of this mess but at this mess both both directions of the interstate had accidents and one was a fatality. First of all that's so sad for those people. I realized that I'm gonna have to do the unthinkable thing and all I could think is what would Kale do? So I creep up enough the truck there next to me and couldn't see directly into my car. The only thing I had in my car was a paper grocery bag. I tore it open, put it on the floor of the second row of my car, crawled back there and
Starting point is 01:05:35 took one of the sloppiest poops on the planet. The baby was asleep and I made my daughter get in the third row and look out the back of the window for some privacy I use baby wipes to clean up and took my dookie up front and put it in the passenger seat floor I was so embarrassed I drove directly back to my mom's house threw it away and her outside dumpster So I didn't risk anyone finding out still can't believe I'm telling you all this But I hope you guys get a laugh out of it. I love you girls. That means you too Kristen Ma'am no because I have a wild story for you recent no But I hope you guys get a laugh out of it. I love you girls. That means you too, Kristin. Ma'am.
Starting point is 01:06:05 No, because I have a wild story for you. Recent? No. Kristin and I went to eat at the Cheesecake Factory and I got, no, it's just like this. Like it was- Bubbleguts? Yeah, but I didn't clean out my own shit. Who did?
Starting point is 01:06:21 Fucking Kayden. Natalie's son had to help me. I was like eight months pregnant. Where was this at? In my car, in my front seat. On your seat? In leggings. Do you know how tight those are to your-
Starting point is 01:06:32 You shat in your leggings? No. Yes. No. I'm talking- How did it get outside? They're tight. It just went everywhere. I'm talking about. How did it get outside? They're tight. It just went everywhere.
Starting point is 01:06:47 It's her fault. But it was coming up. And so then my ex at the time was like coming over. Wait, so just give me like, okay. The play by play. Yeah. So I'm driving and I literally call her and I'm like, I'm sweating.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Like I can't do this where I'm bumper to bumper traffic. What should have been a 90 minute trip ended up being like a three hour trip. That's how like- Because you shit yourself. I shit myself. Kayl. No, it was the, and then I had to drive like that
Starting point is 01:07:10 for a really long time. Oh! Yeah. In the leggings with the shit on them? She said in the leg, yeah, it was a wild. How did you smell that? Like going that full? Don't get me started, truly.
Starting point is 01:07:23 So what would Kayl do is iconic. You just have to fucking fuck it out. I don't know. No, how did you drive that far with that smell? No, no, you didn't. No, you didn't. Oh, do you know I sold that car back to my ex husband afterwards? You shit in it and then you sold it to him? She shit in the car and then sold it to him. I did. I was like, I need a new car. And so he was like, all right, I'll buy that one from you. And we went to the car dealership together.
Starting point is 01:07:53 And you just left out, I mean, I feel like that's kind of the same thing of when you buy a house and somebody's died in it, like you, disclosure. I feel like that's a disclosure that needs to immediately happen. Like I shit myself in my seat. Sign on the dotted line also had diarrhea in the front seat. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to buy it. So in diarrhea it everywhere. Well, okay. But did your splatter and like hit the window? Was it like all over the back of the seat? No, it just seeped out every like the leggings, the leggings, like that was the worst case scenario. Truly. So when you got home, like what did you do? You don't want to know. Did you peel them
Starting point is 01:08:32 off in the driveway? The no, I couldn't because my ex was coming over. So I had to like quickly run through the house and like there was shit everywhere. So you tracked shit through your house basically on that note, we've got to go get our cat waxed. I won't shit. Thank you for always supporting our show. Please subscribe and review on the Apple Podcasts app. Follow and rate on Spotify or listen wherever you get your podcasts. Don't forget to follow us on Instagram and join our Facebook group to connect with us
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