Coffee Convos with Kail Lowry and Lindsie Chrisley - Tummy Troubles Have Returned

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

CC363: Kail's period troubles meets digestive issues which causes a disaster in a public bathroom. Lindsie and Kail share their thoughts on the Stolen Youth miniseries and answer some Listener questions. Lindsie gives Kail the recent updates on Nick Viall's cheating situation. Today's Foul Play is a reminder to remove your pets from your room if sexy time is about to go down! Check out our Instagram @coffeeconvospodcast for more! Thank you to our sponsor!  Apartments: Visit Apartments.com, a place to find a placeJust Thrive: To save 20% off a 90-day bottle of Just Thrive Probiotic and Just Calm go to JustThriveHealth.comRocket Money: Manage your expenses the easy way by going to RocketMoney.com/COFFEECONVOSStamps: Visit Stamps.com and use code COFFEE for a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale!

I hate gift giving and receiving. Receiving gifts is so weird. What do you say thank you? This is Coffee Convo's with Kale Lowry and Lindsey Chrisley. I really want you to be in your feels, Kale. That does not interest me whatsoever. I feel very attacked by you. A spirited discussion about motherhood, friendship, family,

and life in the public eye. I'm just not with the fakery anymore. There's a fakery bakery around here. Here's Kale and Lindsey. Hello, Lindsey. Hello. We just started the combo with what the fuck. What the fuck? Creed hates my golden girl's shirt. He said, I don't like those old ladies on your shirt. Why? Well, they're old ladies and I don't think he's had much experience with old ladies. So I feel like it's just fear of the unknown. You know what I mean? Eventually you're going to look like that though. I don't think he's had much experience with old ladies. So I feel like it's just fear of the unknown. You know what I mean?

Eventually you're going to look like that though. I won't because they're pushing me down the stairs before that happens. Goodbye. Welcome to Coffee Combos podcast. Good morning. Good morning. I normally would not record today because all of my kids are home. However, we were having technical difficulties last week. So with that being said, and the schedule being bamboozled by technology, my kids are here and you may or may not hear them in the background. So I want to warn you, and I want to warn all of our listeners that I apologize in advance. I think Lux and Lincoln are tired out from lacrosse camp, but I cannot speak to Rio and Critter crap. Critter crap. I love that you call him that I was just

watching your Instagram stories of him talking and please tell me like when he started talking that good because when I don't know and he's so smart like He's so like definitely Isaac's level of smart like just like book smart. I don't know I hope that it continues and he doesn't struggle because I was not ever book smart in my life So then what were you I had to work really hard. That's what I had to do Really hard to learn fucking anything. So, you know know what's so interesting to me, you probably had really good grades, right? Um, I had I was average. I was a very average girly average student. Okay,

so I always was like a B honor roll all through elementary school, started hiding progress reports roughly around like sixth grade would bamboozle my parents that like we didn't get a progress report. Roughly started forging signatures around like ninth grade and went to summer school two summers out of all of high school. But see, you know what? Both of us, I don't know whether you're naturally book smart or you have to work towards it. If I would have put in the effort, I would have been an honorable student at all times. I can do it. I am actually smart once I read books and do the things, but I just had no motivation or dedication to do the things. And I don't know, that surprises me

about you that you would even let it get that far. I don't know. I'm going to go out on a limb and say I didn't think that as my nanny says, cow horns would hook. And I just, I really didn't care. I went to private school. And so the standards were very different. We didn't have to take state testing and stuff. So, you know, you figure it out. And then I went to college and didn't have any help whatsoever. So I had to stay on academic scholarship. I graduated top 10% of my business class, made hundreds in accounting, which was like a weed out program for business students. I dropped out of accounting first class, didn't even make it through the entire thing. I walked

out and said, all right, this isn't for me. Will did that exact same thing. Somehow I managed to get a hundred in accounting one and accounting two. Never happening for me. My parents probably wanted to beat their head against a wall for my high school grades versus what I proved that I could do in college. Well, I suggest that you, myself and Kristin go to law school. I mean, we probably should do that. It would be Coffee Combo's podcast and associates.

Could you imagine? Coffee Combo's podcast and associates? Let me tell you something, though. We need to talk about the story that I wanted to tell you last week on the podcast, but technical difficulties arrived at our destination. People posted on our Facebook talking about missing my tummy troubles. I need to give you the rundown of what occurred to me in public last week. I got my period two weeks late, so I'm effectively bleeding on this day. And I have quit Starbucks for a number of weeks and was needing a little sweet treat,

thought I would treat myself. And Emily and I go to Starbucks before we go to a little author discussion on a book called She's Not Sorry, which I have not finished yet, but I digress. I said, you know what? I don't know if it's the caffeine or the dairy that is in this drink from Starbucks, but I have bubble guts. Okay.

We go to- There's a single place in the public library? Yes. So we drive to the public library to do to go to this author discussion And I said, you know what? I need to change my tampon and also I'm having bubble guts so I don't know what's about to happen. Okay, no fucking clue and Not only do I have a tampon and a diaper on Okay, there is a full massacre. So I go to the bathroom and there's a massacre

So I'm like, Oh my God, Emily, could you go to my car to see if I have wipes in my car? Because that will help. Right? So I am trying to slide the keys under the door to give them to her. Not only do I have blood on my hands, but it's just fucking everywhere. I've led through my shorts. Okay. Now it gets worse. You think you thought it ended there? It doesn't. So thankfully I was in the stall that was like the handicap one that had lots of space. So I'm like, perfect. There's a sink in there. I'll be able to clean myself up before whatever. So after I slide the keys under the door to her, I back up to the bathroom, to the toilet so I could sit back down. And when I was backing up, I slipped on some liquid that I am still uncertain whether it

was urine or water. Was this liquid that belonged to you? No. This was liquid that belonged to somebody else before you got into that stall. Correct. So she went out to the car to go get the wipes and she's trying to help me. And mind you, this was during the heat wave here in Delaware. So it was literally 101 degrees outside. And so I'm like just like a sticky mess and I'm trying to clean myself up. And I truly, I sent the picture to Chris and I'm

like, I don't know if this is urine or water. So I'm going to send the picture. I think I sent it to the group. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't. Yep. I sure did. So that streak right here, that would be where my foot slid through the liquid. Oh, wow. Wow. That definitely looks like urine. So it doesn't dry like that. You see like on that is. Yeah, I'm definitely thinking that it's Well, if the toilet is leaking, it may be more water than urine, but it could still have urine in that regardless. I was mortified because there's blood in my shorts. There

was a state like blood in my shorts. How do you leak through a diaper and a tampon? How does that happen? I don't know. So I'm fucking embarrassed. I don't know what's going on. I'm having Emily check me this whole time. I was just so disgusted, but we were an hour from my house so it's not like i could just be like fuck it and go home where did the bubble guts come in. While all of this was happening in the bathroom so you were shitting while slipping why didn't shit i just had my stomach was just like cramping as if I was going to shit because I was having dairy plus caffeine, which I didn't, I haven't had Starbucks in a long time. So I'm effect, I'm effectively done with Starbucks indefinitely.

So can I ask, did Starbucks go out the window after we investigated like your ordering history? Is that like when it went on hiatus? No, I just haven't gone to Starbucks because I'm not like going anywhere first thing in the morning, like how I take the kids to school in the morning. I haven't been doing that because if the kids are home, we're either doing things or like not going to Starbucks. I don't know. They just, none of our activities involve a Starbucks and I just haven't gone. So that's kind of why I quit. It wasn't like a conscious decision,

but it was fine. And now I just, there's no reason for me to go back if I'm going to get bubble guts. Like I don't want to have that ever again. Okay. So does anyone else, if you drink Starbucks or Dunkin and then you go to the bathroom and you pee and it smells like what you drank. 1000%. I actually said that one time in the office when I had the office downtown. And it was like me, me and Alessandra for like a shoot or whatever. I was like, Oh, just like give it a second.

My pee smells like coffee. And they looked at me like, like, It never happened to them. I don't know. looked at me like, like, happened to them. I don't know. I just was like, I thought it was like a normal thing. And then I was like having anxiety about whether or not that is a normal thing. But so I'm kind of glad that you brought that up. Because it's been in my head since it occurred. No, if you go just do a marketing test, like

participate in our bullshit, go and get a Starbucks or go and get a Dunkin, whichever you choose, pee and smell your pee and it literally smells just like coffee. I also think it happens more if I'm like not drinking enough water. Like if I have plenty of water in my diet, that doesn't necessarily occur.

Does that make sense? Let me tell you something else, speaking of pee. Does your pee smell when you eat asparagus because Mine sometimes does and then sometimes it doesn't mine does 100% of the time Do you think that it changes the smell of your cum? I'll ask Elijah. We'll do a little Market research I'll have him eat asparagus between now and the next time we record, and I will find out for you. You're going to let me know?

Yeah. I'll let everyone know. What is this investigative process going to look like? Well, we're going to eat it for dinner and then maybe eat it a second night in a row. Then I'll probably have to either go down on him or he might have like pull out and I'll have to smell it. Can you video it? Can we distract everyone with Kale's porno? I'm dead. Can I show you what I got this weekend? Yeah, is it another puppy? Goodbye. I actually love that fucking color. Is that a bitty bog? It's it's mini. Yes, I love it. Okay, so this color is actually I think my mom told me it's discontinued because she had to

order it from like a place that had stock in this color. I'm a green girly. I love everything green. We all know this. I'm going to now start trying to find bogs that are discontinued for our listeners for the gifting. That's cute. That would be such a cute. I actually have my bog right here. I think this is my black one. Yeah, it's my black one.

The colors that nobody else can get anymore, but we can get them. That's actually really cute. When we went to South Carolina a couple of weeks ago, I went into this shop that was down there and they had bog bags that had prints on them. There was a camo one that was really cool and they had two variations of that. Then there was a cheetah print one and I was like, we don't have bogs like this up by us. What do you have? Just like the standard colors? Yeah. Our dicks carries them, but we don't have any other stores that carry them So it's just Dix but I did I don't know if they even have that green one

I know the royal blue color like this they had but other than that, I don't think so Okay, so we need to know everybody who's listening to this if you are Like a mini bogs girly because that's something that we've been thinking about Gifting I just love it. I think it's so cute. We'll have to find like smaller stores, which is also like supporting small business. So I really love that as well.

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mediation. I'm not talking about, you know, the process of like, outside settlements and then, you know, filing that I'm talking about in front of a fucking judge. No judge wants that. But if it's special to you, remember, they don't care. They do not care. Telling us it's special to you, remember- No, they don't care. They do not care. They're just telling us it's special to me. Yeah, it's special to me too. My kids are special to me and a judge still doesn't want me to be there. But can you imagine, I'm just thinking about this photo and we're going to have to post the photo on our socials whenever you guys hear this. Imagine being in a courtroom and coming to court with your entire collection of

Beanie Babies from like the 90s and separating them out and like I imagine this would be like an elementary school type like you have to flip a coin to see who gets the first draw and then you select one and I select one. Can you imagine the stress that I would be under through a divorce process selecting what beanie babies that I want? First of all, I need to know more about the photo because now that I think about it, even custody hearings, I've been in three, I believe, like actual custody hearings in front of a judge.

One, they don't always, well, in my experience, they've never made a decision that day. Number two, what are they separating them for in court? Like was that ordered by the judge like right then and there? Maybe it is like, we could not figure this out in mediation. And so now we have to do this in the courtroom. The level of pissed off if I was a judge and had to deal with that, I would be absolutely pissed. But also the level of understanding off if I was a judge and had to deal with that, I would be absolutely pissed. But also the level of understanding being a person that would want the Beanie Babies, I can also understand. Ma'am, if I had to go to court, let's just say I was married

like in the 90s and I had my whole collection. I had Princess Diana in a collector's box. I had all the Beanie Babies, even the Mini McDonald's. I would riot. I would go to court with a whole list of what the value of each of those Beanie Babies were, and I would do a checkoff method of what I was getting. If I was a judge and someone was in this scenario, and bang on my gavel, and one of the parties came in front of my face with the value of each and a fucking spreadsheet with a checkoff list, they're automatically getting every single one of them because you put in the work and you prove to me that you are responsible, worthy, etc, etc. So in my opinion, they're yours. The other guy gets zero.

The amount of Beanie Babies that I still have that I guess my mom saved, who knows where the fuck she has been saving them at. She comes up with like the weirdest stuff. It'll be like a blue jean dress that I wore in like 1994. Like it's weird shit. Okay. It's like a shrine. Remember that little tiny beanie baby that I showed you that was still in the McDonald's wrapper? I got the story wrong. That actually was my beanie baby. It was not found from Goodwill. That was my belonging. So did you keep it? It's in Jackson's bedroom right now. And I told him if I found the wrapper

or the Beanie Baby was outside of it, then we were having conversation. That has existed in there since roughly like 1996. So are we gonna wait to see how long it takes to disintegrate or like, what is the plan? No, like, does want to like buy it? It's an inchworm. I can't, not a fucking inchworm. Can we please talk about Sarah Lawrence documentary?

I don't know if I'm really fully mentally prepared at this stage of my life and today for this conversation. But yes, and I have so many thoughts. Okay. If you have not already watched Stolen Youth, The Cult inside of Sarah Lawrence, the docu-series is, I believe, four episodes and you can watch it on Hulu. It's truly very unhinged. I don't even really know where to start. I think a great

starting place for me is if my child was going off to college, I'm just trying to put myself like in the mindset of having an 18 year old, right. And I found out that my child was living in a dorm with other students and one of those students parents was living with my child. I would write it. I'm reporting you to the school. I'm reporting you to the housing unit.

I need to know why this person is living there, why it was allowed for a person who was not a student to live in a dorm. I don't understand that. A dorm, an apartment, any of it. It's fucking weird. That is so weird. I'm also really thrown off by, his name is Larry, Lawrence Larry, his daughter Talia, where the fuck was she during all of this? Because this man is basically lying about who he is and what he does and where he came from. He just gets released from prison. He goes to live with his daughter and her college roommates. But then the daughter seemingly just like disappears and leaves him to his own devices with these

other roommates. And we never really hear from her again. Okay, I just want to say also contrary to pop, like, I would say, popular and media belief. Um, I feel like I'm a very understanding person and understand situations from people with different walks of life than my own. So while I don't want to judge somebody from just being released from prison and saying I don't want that person around my child, I feel like at 18 years old, let's say 17 or 18 years old, however old these kids were whenever they went to school, as a parent, that is my child embarking on their education, their adult life without me. I don't know that I would feel completely comfortable

with a grown person that was not my child's age living in an apartment, dorm, whatever, with also a criminal history. Oh, 1000% not. The way that I would riot if Isaac told me that he was away at school and one of his roommate's parents was living there. I'm breaking in. No, I'm literally having a picket sign out front after I removed my child from the

situation. I don't understand any of it, but I also, the cult thing is so hard for me to wrap my head around. And we've talked about this before. I'm not trying to be insensitive. So this is not, I hope that it doesn't get taken offensively. There had to have been extreme levels of lack of sleep and the food deprivation to get these kids to be on board with them. And I also think that he played that, like the therapist role almost, so that he convinced them to think that like he was helping them. But the levels that it got was absolutely insane. But also how do you coerce these teenagers

to have sex with you? And I'm just thinking, okay, let's say one of your boys, because Isaac's older, let's say he has friends over for a sleepover. How many times have we had fucking sleepovers whenever we were teenagers and a parent say something and then we talk shit about them behind their back? Yeah. They're all in their fucking mind, right? Yeah, we're not going to sleep. Yeah. Yeah. So why was that like not going on? I think Raven, so if you remember Raven, she had like the darker hair and she was like

not with the shits. Like she was very much like trying to tell them that like something isn't right, like this isn't okay. And they weren't hearing it. I just, I don't understand that many teenage kids not banding together and being like, hey, something about this is really fucked up and weird. I do. I want to gently pick somebody's brain about it because it's easy for us to dismiss it and be like, we don't understand because we've never been through it. But I also just want to know like what exact level of manipulation manipulation, what lengths were gone to, because it still

was unclear to me how they all kind of fell for it. And I'm not trying to victim blame, so I hope it doesn't come across that way. Because Raven very much was like, oh, this is not okay. So how was she... And then obviously to some degree, Talia stepped away because she didn't participate either. And why, I mean, I guess you have to look at the dynamic in that situation of like parent and child, right? Was she also so manipulated by him to a degree of even with stepping away that she wouldn't bring awareness to this situation for the people who were being impacted by

him. Like, I'm just saying if that was me, and I was I was aware and I wanted to step away, I would fucking tell. I would be like, my dad's a fucking weirdo for that shit. And those kids who he is imprinting on, they need help. So I wonder why she wasn't charged with conspiracy at all. If you watched until the end, the black screen that showed like what she what he was charged with what Isabella was charged with because she she really suffered. She still even up until she like allegedly apologized and was charged for her co-conspiracy,

I don't think that she's fully healed and I don't think that she's fully comprehending what in fact did happen to her because she claims that she wasn't brainwashed or anything. Why was Talia not charged but Isabella was? I don't understand that either. Also, okay, the conditions of where they lived. Was hoarding, that was absolutely hoarding. Absolutely hoarders paradise, okay? As a parent, if my child's going off to school, I'm gonna go and visit said child

wherever they're living, right? So what was the reasoning behind the parents not visiting or did they not have access to the place to be able to see what type of conditions their kids were living in? Because I can tell you right now, if I walked into that place, I would immediately call Molly maids. Well, for one, I never thought of that because nobody visited me in college. I also never lived on campus. But two, I think that the kids probably were going back to the parents. And I think that was part of the story was like, he's helping them. And so at first,

I think they were seeing or at least hearing positive changes. So they didn't think anything of it. But also, I think a lot of them came from out of state, so it was probably very hard. If anyone was going to come visit, it was the student going back home versus both parents coming to visit and then not having anywhere to stay kind of thing is what I got from it. What really shocked me too was when kind of the school portion of it was done and Isabella and Felicia went to go live in the home where Larry slash Lawrence was living with them. The conditions of that house and the hoarding of equipment outside the house to like work at God awfully hours of the night. But Felicia was talking about that as her husband, common law, that

is her husband, that is her husband, that is her husband. But then Isabella never spoke to that, but then she also was riding for him until the wheels fell off. So was she also, and then it came out later in the documentary that she was also sleeping with him and Felicia went to go visit him or stay with him or something. And he was sleeping with her and she had her hands on his genitals and things like that. And so was she also his like common law wife or what was that? Because originally, when Felicia was talking, I thought that Isabella was Talia because I was like this, she's not describing those things. I did too.

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You know what I'm saying? Like he was with this one and then he was with that one and who knows? I mean, based off the things that we just saw from how he brainwashed, these girls were probably that were physically active with him or probably the most brainwashed. I would say Felicia and Isabella were the most brainwashed. And I truly thought that it was going to go in a different direction. I thought that Isabella was going to get out and Felicia was not, by the way that she described their relationship. And then to find out that

it was the opposite. And not only did they get out, well, not only did Felicia get out, but her describing the process of becoming healthy and healing and realizing that she was a cult victim and manipulated. I'm having a hard time with it, wrapping my head around the whole process. And when Isabella was faced with the decision on whether to accept the charges or testify against him and she picked him over herself, like I just can't. Nope, because I'm telling on you. But she truly believes there's nothing to tell on. Which then is a brainwashing not only by someone else, but you're brainwashing yourself.

So it's like a two-fold type situation. Another point that I wanted to bring up, as a parent, your child goes off to school and they have this man who is a criminal living with them, not a student, not taking any classes at the university, and you get a bill for items that they've broken because they have to find the money somewhere. So they start asking for money for scraped pots and pans. How did he even manipulate them to think that he could charge them for pots and pans that he probably didn't even fucking own? And also this is a community house so I don't give a fuck. So I don't, I need to know where Isabella is today. I want to hear because that was 2022 that she was charged, I think. So she got sentenced to four or four and

a half years in prison. I need to know where she is and how much she's reflected if she has gone back on her thoughts and is not sorry or if she stands by him, if she's waiting for him. I need to know where she stands. I also need to know during this time that all this was going on, did any of these kids have iPhones and were their parents FaceTiming them? Well, keep in mind that iPhone just came out when all of this was taking place. Because I can just imagine with technology today, some of this stuff, if parents were

FaceTiming their kids, they must have. I don't think that it was a thing because the first iPhone came out when I was in high school and they were in college the same year that I was in high school. I think it started in 2009 or 2010. Yeah, that was one of the first. The first iPhone came out, I believe my junior year of high school, which would have been 2009 2008 2009. There was this one girl that had it. She was the first person to get an iPhone at my school. And it was my senior year, which was 2008.

Yeah. So 2008 2009, but they didn't come with FaceTime. That was later. Yeah. Like when did FaceTime come about? Let me Google it. Because I don't think that these kids were, and like also social media wasn't super like what it is today.

And so I think that would have, okay. When did FaceTime, 2010, I guess, with the iPhone 4. iPhone 4 was when FaceTime came out. So they already had iPhone 4 by 2010. So I'm just imagining it would be a lot harder for something like this to happen with modern day technology, I guess. Because I can promise you,

if my kid was laying on a couch in his dorm or apartment and I saw some of that hoarding situation, better bet your ass that I'm gassing up my car and I'm headed there. No, for sure. I feel bad for Yali and Felicia and Santos as parents because all three of their kids were affected by this man. Yeah. Outside of that, we have several listener questions that we've had for weeks that we just have not had an opportunity to get into.

I loved this one. This person says, how often do you and your spouse or significant other argue per month? Rough estimate. So I commented to this and I said that I thought it was fucking hilarious because what identify an argument, that's number one. Like I need you to identify what an argument is. How many times a month do I argue with him and he doesn't argue back or like what are we or is it like a mutual argument? Because I also, I have a lot of issues that I speak up about or vent to, you know, about I don't do it anymore. But I used

to like vent to, you know, either Chris and or someone else about every little fucking thing that bothered me. And then I realized, okay, one, these are nothing to leave my partner over to, I don't need to tell them every fucking play by play about everything that bothers me about him. And three, these are things that like, I can get over within the next few minutes. It's just like in the heat of the moment. So these are not even argument worthy. So maybe like, once a month, twice a month, I argue with him. Okay. Number one, why are we calculating how many arguments that we have a month?

That's the number one question. Number two, is it an argument if only one person is arguing? No. So then what is it? You're so good. No. So then what is it? It's an argument because argument requires two people and an argue, there's no, you didn't complete the word so you can't complete the argument. You know what I mean? Oh my God.

I'm excited. Okay. So I just feel like I don't have anybody to argue with right now. So I'm not having any arguments. If we were going to go with the average arguments on a daily basis, probably two daily basis. Well, yeah, because it's like, why the fuck are you doing that? And then they've got an, you know, a response of, well, I'm doing that because you did that. Or I'll walk by the kitchen.

I'm just thinking of like times that I've been in relationships, like walk by the kitchen and there's plates in there. Why the fuck are the plates there? I don't know, I got busy, had to do a meeting. Why the fuck didn't you clean out the plates then? Yesterday, Elijah asked me to go to the store to get rice because he was in the literal middle of making dinner, okay? Like literally already cooking and realized

we didn't have enough rice. We had a little bit of rice, but not enough. Can you go to the store? I said, yes. I got in my car. I went down the driveway. I stopped at the farm. I never went to the store. I came back. He said, are you forgetting something? And I said, what am I forgetting? What, what is going on? I asked you to go to the store to get rice an hour and a half ago. And I forgot and I did not get the rice and he did not argue with me. He didn't. He did not give a fuck. No, because if you, if you went your happy ass out the door on a mission, which has now become a joint mission,

because he's doing what he's supposed to be doing, like he's cooking the meal, right? And your ass left with the intention to go get the rice and you came back with nothing in hand. No, you're getting cussed out. I didn't even go make it to the store, Lindsay. No, you made it to the farm, which was not part of the journey. It was not on the excursion list, but we didn't argue about it. I used to when I was like still in my depression girl era,

I think, and I didn't always voice it to him, but I did complain about every fucking thing. Like if he broke, if he breathed wrong, if he left the toothpaste out if he just everything I complained and it wasn't even to him. It was just like, and then I woke up one day and I was like, Wow, I don't have any issues. I don't know if it was like the cure of depression or was it this was it you already voiced all of the issues and then he just corrected those issues. So then you don't have

anything to bitch about anymore. No, I think that I was like, okay, he's a fucking human being and I woke the fuck up. Yeah, I mean, leaving the lid off of a toothpaste, I don't really know that that would be an argument that I would have with somebody. It would be an argument that I would be internally having with myself.

Why the fuck did they do that? And then I just put the lid back on and move on. Right? That's like what normal people would do, but I wasn't being normal. Um, but yeah, I mean, we really need to define like what the art like what an argument is. Are we talking about like knockdown dragouts? Because I really don't have those. There's really not a time and a place for that at this point in my

life anymore. So let's just go, we're breaking up. If we got to get into a knockdown, drag out, then see your way out. Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you, move in the fuck on. Yes. Agreed. Agreed. There are some things I feel like when you get like, and tell me if you agree with this, when you get into a relationship with somebody and you're kind of set in your ways as an adult and you're like, okay, this is

the way that I do something but that person's come into the table and they don't do things the same way. There's like a healthy way to communicate those things. But you have to decide, okay, is that something even worth communicating over? Is it something that I can live with? Yeah, you have to decide if you feel like this is something that you can live with or not. Because I think a lot of times people ignore it, ignore it, ignore it. They're not compatible. And then they wonder why they don't work out. Well, it's like you ignored all these things that really needed to be addressed and like come to a middle ground or not. And you could have left a long time

ago. I saw this creator making a video the other day and she was trying to give the division of responsibilities like in the relationship. And she was like, it's pretty simple and like common sense. If I'm the last one out of the bed, I make the bed. If he's the last one out of the bed, he makes the bed. If I'm up first and in the kitchen first, I make his coffee and vice versa. And I feel like that's a really good way to go into it,

except I'm probably the last one out of the bed every day and I don't want to fucking make it every day. It sounds good in theory, but it just might not work for you. Yeah. Okay. I mean, both can be true. The first one that's

downstairs takes the dog out. Okay, well, then you have to get into the thought process of okay, I'm going to probably if I know all of this, I'm going to probably take care of all of my responsibilities, like taking a pee, brushing my teeth, washing my face while you're going downstairs, and you're making the coffee and you're taking the dog out and I'm just doing like these other things. So would that be considered a form of weaponized incompetence? Oh, yes.

Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Okay, so we're manipulating. Yeah, 100%. But I think bottom line is relationships are ultimately give and take. And you have to decide how much you can take and how much you can give. Yeah. And then on the receiving end, you have to decide how much you can give and take. Agreed. I'm really glad that you and freaking Elijah, I was going to call him hot neighbor, but now we don't refer to him

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but I don't even know what this person is saying. So she says, my cousin's wedding invitations got sent out and my partner of almost nine years wasn't invited. We see my cousin on holidays and certain occasions, but that's about it. I wouldn't call us super close. It would of course be nice to see him get married. However, I would feel weird if I attended without my partner. My mom suggested I reach out to them, but I don't want to be that person. I understand weddings are expensive and I know their wedding isn't going to be huge. What would

you do? I'm not going. I'm not reaching out to ask if so and so can come because if they're an afterthought or clearly unwelcome which is exactly what it was. I'm also not participating that's why I already said before even read the scenario that you and I are both declining on this while I do understand that weddings are expensive also my time is so if I'm gonna be working monday through friday. my time is. So if I'm going to be working Monday through Friday, and then I have the weekend off to spend quality time with my partner, which is my love language, I'm not going to choose to go and do something without them that they could just be invited to. And nine years is a long running streak of being in a relationship. Like this isn't yesterday. It also feels very like I want my cake and eat it too kind of thing because this cousin is not very close with me, but by inviting me, they get a gift. So I don't love that. Also now at my big age, I'm not inviting people that I don't have a relationship with and

I'm not inviting somebody to something that I don't talk to on a regular basis. Like seeing them at holidays is not enough anymore. Like we're too old to be doing that. I'm not just having any fucking, no. Keep your circle small. And if you don't talk to me on a regular basis or a consistent basis, there's no reason to even invite me or even think of me. But am I petty for this?

I would, in this situation, I would send a gift and I would RSVP that I would have loved to be able to attend with my partner, however, I'm going to be spending that weekend with my partner. I don't think that's petty enough. Honestly, I would decline not send a gift and not send any. I wouldn't even send a note. I'm not, I'm because what for what? Why do

you get the gift to you get you then you win? I mean, yes, but I feel like it's kind of like a classy fuck you. You know, it's like, are we trying to class up the fuck you or are we trying to trying to give you a free fuck you I'm not paying for that. For that. All the way off for free. I'm giving you a free fuck you.

I love that. So we are both kindly declining. Okay, next one. Oh, I love these. How would you handle your fiance talking to a girl he met on Instagram? No, you don't even let me give the backstory. That is the backstory. I've heard enough. I've caught him communicating with this girl through Instagram. Wait, did Kristen write this about me? She's like, hold up. Let me read into this a little bit more.

I asked him about it and he said it was nothing and would stop. Tonight he went to the gas station and was gone for an hour. When he came home, he made a point to say he was on the phone with his dad the whole time. It was odd. So I checked the phone records and it was a number that I didn't know did a little detective work and it was the same girl. As far as I know, they have never met in person. Um, first of all, the point that I'm having to check fucking phone records, you're already a liar in my book. This is in 2005 when you got the records sent to you on a monthly basis to pay your bill.

At the point that I'm checking phone records for a fucking iPhone, is the day that I'm throwing all of your shit in the lawn and bleaching it. Not bleaching it. Everything. Kill. Speaking of phone records, like back in the day. Wait, did they still send those,

like the call logs when they send you a bill? Cause I don't do, I do paperless. So like, do they do that? I don't know because I also do paperless and I've never looked, like I have never looked at phone records ever, do paperless and I've never looked like I have never looked at phone records ever, ever. Oh, I've never looked at them.

But ma'am, I can tell you that is one thing that Todd Chrisley threatened me with all through high school that he was ordering the phone records. And the way that I shit myself, I am telling this on Coffee Con podcast the way that I shit my fucking self For him Threatening to order phone records on me. I don't even know what the fuck I was hiding to be perfectly honest But whatever it was that I was hiding I didn't want him to know about Period because you were like, I'm not getting caught do not catch me. I never looked at I just don't do it But at the point that you are leaving the house to go be on the phone with somebody is the point that I would end

the relationship because if you'll do it once, you'll do it again. And maybe not in another relationship, but in this relationship, if you do it once, you'll do it again. I've said that too. People always ask me about cheating like once a cheater, always a cheater. I think if it's happened within the makeup of that relationship, it's likely to happen again, most likely. I agree. But in a new relationship with a different person, I don't necessarily think that's the case. I 100% agree with that. If any person is going to try to bamboozle me and tell me that they were at the gas station

for an hour, were you like what were you doing? Like this is not Bucky's likely. So I'm confused. You didn't have a whole retail store to go through. Doesn't take that long to pump gas on average. It's like a five minute to seven minute situation, unless you have a really slow pump. So for one fucking hour, like, what were you doing? Also, I have had experience in a past relationship of an Instagram situation.

This person not only met my boyfriend while I was present, but also messaged my boyfriend after the fact. My boyfriend also messaged this person back and asked them where they played pickleball. Also after a breakup, this person was supposed to be blocked, which they were blocked. I confirmed that situation, blocked them, and then at some point during the two-month breakup that we had and then got back together, they played pickleball with this person, which means that they had to unblock them to reach out to them, but claimed that there was never any type of physical attraction with this person. This girl also was a married woman of four kids

that still lived with her husband. So I'm like, okay, for all of those reasons alone, fucking hate Instagram, fucking hate you, fucking hate her. And I hope her husband listens to my podcast. You're like, I dropped enough clues, they'll be able to figure it out. Yes. I just think that there's no room for funny business on fucking Instagram.

And if you're in a committed relationship, then fucking stay that way or get the fuck out and be on your DMs. Like, I don't know what else to tell you. I can't really speak for other people. But when I was a cheater, I was going to speak about myself in third person, when Kale was a cheater in my cheating girl era, it was a lot of fucking work and I was a horrible liar. It just wasn't fun for me. Now it's either be in your DMs like Lindsay said, or be in a committed relationship, or just be fucking single don't do either because it's just too

much fucking work. Like what are you doing? And also like, no offense, but I'm onto your games when I know every single person that's you're following and is following you because it's like five people. And then she's just the random one. And you've talked about how ugly she is and like all of these things. If you think that that made me believe you, it didn't. The extra effort that you went into to call her ugly

just really didn't work for me. That doesn't work, that never works. They're so dumb, men are so dumb. Speaking of cheating and we don't have a whole lot of time, and maybe we can, you can either decide that we talk about it on this episode or we can talk about it on another one. Nick Vile and Natalie Joy.

What about them? You haven't followed the deep dive on the cheating situation. Did he cheat with a man? Oh, it wasn't him who cheated. It was her? Why is your eyes got that big? Well, because I didn't expect that.

Oh, honey. Like it has been, and I have followed this for months. Like we all know that I am just like not a fan of Nick and have never been a fan of him. And he's not a fan of me So I don't feel bad saying any of this stuff He's he's talked some shit about me and for those reasons alone I'm now gonna take the opportunity to talk shit about him

He Regularly gives all this dating advice on his podcast He regularly gives all this dating advice on his podcast, you know, about like the do's and don'ts of dating and interviews people in the industry. And we've talked about how he doesn't want to give credit where credit's due and his background coming from reality TV, which is why he has the podcast that he has and, you know, all of these things. But on a May 29th episode, when all of these allegations were going around about Natalie allegedly cheating on him,

he stated something to the effect that he and Natalie do not owe anyone any explanation because they are not in the public eye, don't need to answer questions, they're not reality TV stars, they didn't sign up for their entire lives and relationships to be out in the public. While I can understand that to some degree,

because I kind of feel the same sometimes, I also don't agree. Like as much as I might wanna like hide something, I also know that with a public platform, you're putting your life out there. So to some degree, when there's these types of allegations going on, you do have to address. So right off the bat, without knowing all of this, just learning about it right now, I would say, okay, I could agree with that because he was once on The Bachelor or whatever show

The Bachelorette that he was on. Now his podcast is more so interview-based with guests. So I get that. But to your point, the whole dating and relationships advice and your announcing pregnancies and marriage and engagement and all of that on social media, I could also see the argument that maybe your own relationship doesn't live up to your do's and don'ts and your relationship advice that you give to everybody else. And so I can see both sides of that. And I think if you're going to be on a podcast giving relationship advice, I mean, we're all guilty of putting our foot in our mouth, right? And being like, okay, well, I would do this.

And then six months later, you find yourself in another situation and you're like, well, fuck, I said that, but I'm actually not doing it, right? All guilty of that. But you can't have an entire platform based off of giving relationship advice and these do's and don'ts, but then you're not going to address what's actually happened in your relationship. And to my knowledge and understanding, she is now pretty much a co-host on his podcast.

I've noticed that too. I didn't know if that was, I only really noticed, I guess, for the Gypsy Rose one. And I thought maybe because it was such a big deal, like she wanted parts of that, or is it because of a lack of like interest? Like what is it exactly? I don't know. I think it probably was like a natural, if I had to guess, it probably was just like a natural progression. Like maybe he had her on the show and people liked

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So, allegedly they had a, what do they call it, like a shower, like a wedding shower or whatever, thrown by one of her close girlfriends and her mother. And then they go on this trip, she goes on this girlfriend's trip to Europe, I believe it was. And supposedly, that's where like this cheating situation happened. Oh, oh, oh, what the fuck ever. I thought you were going to tell me something fucking scandalous and juicy about like it was a full like on affair. A one time fucking fling in another country. It was a one time thing though, because it has been said that the commitment dates to

each other were kind of iffy, like she was kind of like still dating, but they were actually together, but they like weren't together. It was possibly way more than what anybody knows, because I believe most of these girls like went on followed her and then the one of the good friends of Natalie's, the mother that like was hosting this like pre wedding event thing shower also deleted all of the photos off of her Instagram from it. So evidently like it was a big ordeal. And I followed every rabbit hole on TikTok, mainly just because Nick hates me. So like, I just

wanted to know like what was going on. What do you think? Well, here's my thing. I mean, I'm not condoning going out of the country and cheating on your partner. That is not what I'm saying. I just thought it was going to be way more scandalous than that. Regardless, I have more questions, I guess, about just the inner workings of this. If your friend is cheating on their partner, guy or girl, doesn't matter. Are you severing your friendship with that person because you don't align or you don't agree with those decisions because personally, I'm going to say nine times out of 10, I'm not ending the friendship because it doesn't always impact me.

Obviously, there are exceptions to that rule. And I think sometimes it can start to affect the friends if you're including them in lies or maybe your friendship is suffering because you can't keep your life together and your relationships are falling apart, whatever. But it must have been more than just a one-time thing for all of these people to unfollow and remove the pictures. That's what I'm thinking. Because I can honestly tell you and crucify me for this if you want, but like if you and I were to have gone on a trip, right?

Like say we go to the fucking, we go to Rome, we go to Italy, whatever, and you cheat on your partner and that's really the end of it. It's just like that one time trip. Do I agree with that decision and that action? No. But am I going to end my relationship, my friendship with you because of it? Absolutely not. Now, if we were in the States and you're including me in regular lies and our friendship is falling apart because of this like double life that you're living. Yeah, I would say this has not like, this is not good for me. This is not healthy for me to be around. You know what I mean? But I don't always think that it's always as cut and dry as just like cutting off a friend because they're cheating

on their partner. This actually happened to me with one of my friends where they were involving me in lies of situations that I wasn't even made aware of. So like I was being parts of these lies that this person was telling that I had no knowledge of. And so when I became knowledgeable of these things, I'm like, okay, I don't want to be associated with that situation because number one, I wasn't involved in that. Number two, you're posting old pictures of us like on Instagram as if we are like one place but we're not. And now it causes questions for people who I'm being honest with who also now follow you on there. When I'm saying I'm at home in the bed, and you're

posting photos of us as if like we're somewhere, but we're not and I'm in bed and I'm getting a phone call from my boyfriend being like, where are you? In the bed, wanna FaceTime? Oh wait, you can't, cause you have a fucking Android. I don't wanna be involved in anybody's lies. Like what you do is what you do. I don't necessarily wanna be surrounded with it either.

I don't know that I would end a friendship on a, like what you're saying, like a one situation type deal. Would I address it? Yeah, I absolutely would and ask them if they hit their fucking head. But would I end a friendship? Likely no. Would I end a friendship over someone involving me in lies for a long

period of time that I was not aware of and then I became aware? Yes, I would. I get some people when they listen to this might say that if they'll cheat on their partner, they question that person's whole moral compass and their character. But like I say to everything, life is not black and white. There's nothing black and white about the complications and the intricacies of relationships and just like human dynamics. So I just let that use that information as you will. But I just don't think that it's as black and white as people wish that it was or they perceive it to be.

But it is not that simple. Like I don't necessarily think that I would question someone's entire character because, you know, life. Because, you know, last question from our kiddies and then we have foul play. This person says, how much of your kids school, schoolwork, artwork and school projects do you keep? Help me settle a debate with my husband. I had a professional organizer come to this house when I first moved in and she said roughly four or five pieces of things per school year. Oh, I'm not keeping things that they colored from a coloring book. I'm not keeping things that are like, for example, Lux just drew like the entire like character scapes of like freehand and

like wrote the names of all the Ninja Turtles and it was so fucking cute and it was freehand and it was just the cutest thing. I'm absolutely keeping that. I'm keeping school projects. I have footprints, fingerprints, handprints, faces, like things like that. But with that being said, I also encourage you guys to check out Archive, which is like this school. It's like this kids art thing where you can save them, submit them, and they turn the art book in. They turn the art projects into pages of a book so that you don't

have to keep the physical item. You have pictures. I don't know how to describe it. I'll post a link for it. I highly encourage that because then you don't have to worry about like keeping the actual thing. And you can only like, maybe you do like a yearly one where you save them for the school year, all the pieces that you want, and then you put them in the in the notebook in the art book. I definitely pick and choose, but I don't have like a set number. At this point, because now Jackson has something at his school called like Art to Remember, and you can get certain pieces of art that they've done on like a pot holder or a towel for your kitchen or something like that.

So if it's being printed on that, then I'm not keeping it to your point, like fingerprints, whatever, keeping all of that stuff. If he makes like ornaments at school, I keep stuff like that for the Christmas tree. But regular school papers, I'm not keeping. Jackson really likes to make like his own novels of stuff. He'll staple papers together. Oh, that's cute. And his own comic books or something. Like I might save something like that. Otherwise I'm not keeping anything.

You guys know whenever I moved out of my marital home, I had every piece of paper that Jackson had ever done anything at school with from the time he was in two year old preschool until kindergarten. So I had to weed out a lot of stuff and it took a lot of time and I can just tell you there's no reason to save it all because you're going to end up throwing it away. Yeah, for sure. But I'll post the archive book thing. Perfect. And on that note, foul play.

Foul play. During the pandemic, I had separated with my husband. I was really young when I got married. It was 22. Our sex life was very basic and I believe we got married thinking we were in love when we really, it was just what you were supposed to do. Fast forward so many years later, I found myself single and obviously craving some attention to see if any men found me desirable. Much to my surprise, someone did. I was never one to do sexy stuff over Snapchat, but again, it was a whole new world to me. So using my trusty vibrator, a man and I were videotaping some fun when I was filming my grand finale.

Not only did I send it to him, I sent it to my ex-husband's grandparents. First of all, why are they on fucking Snapchat? Yeah, there's an age limit that should be existing on that app. In an absolute panic, I texted them not to open any Snapchat if there was one, but also deleted my Snapchat

completely. Turns out that didn't delete the video. They did see it and it was the topic of conversation at one of their family dinners that I was obviously not present to. Safe to say I've never done that again. I hope this made you laugh. Love the podcast and the both of you. This is exactly why you just do this over FaceTime because there is no type of saving situation that can take place. Also, have you ever had somebody film you sexually without consent? Yes, and also send it to people. Same. Not send it to people that I'm aware of, but the level of betrayal that you feel in a situation like that is absolutely just disgusting. We can get into that conversation

another day. If I was on Snapchat, and I sent something fucking risky, and it went to my ex husband's grandparents, why are they on Snapchat? That is so fucking weird. And I can also understand being in like a scrambling situation. You're not really thinking logically. So you're like, okay, if I delete this account, it's going to delete what I sent. But that was definitely a scrambling move. 100%. Right?

Yeah. We just like get rid of this really quick, but like, it's not getting rid of it. Um, could you imagine your ex-husband's grandparents seeing you use a vibrator? I would be fucking mortified. I don't want anybody to see me using that. I don't. First of all, some some toys, sex toys look like dog toys. Have you ever seen a pocket?

One? No. What is it? It's like a fucking Kong, like one of those Kongs that you put like peanut butter and stuff in. Is that a flashlight? Yes. Wait, show me one.

What do I even Google pocket pussy? Bye. Images. Oh, they're all like censored. Okay, I'll get back to you with the picture. Okay. I also need to know how many people's husbands, boyfriends, whatever has one of those. Well, one time somebody sent me a video like I don't even know this person like ever.

People send some weird shit like on social media. And somebody sent me a video using one of those and I was like, wait, what is that? Did it look like a call? Yeah, it looks like that. I knew I wasn't fucking crazy. I was like, that literally looks like my dog toys. Did it look like a cone? Yeah, it looked like that. I knew I wasn't fucking crazy. I was like, that literally looks like my dog toys. I don't know why that person sent that to you.

It's very alarming. Social media is very alarming. I'm very sorry that you had that experience and this is why you don't have Snapchat. The next person says, I have been on the Nuva Ring birth control for seven years. My husband prefers that I remove it as it's only a small ring when we have sex

because it freaks him out. Just like any other time we have sex, I removed it, not thinking much of it. After we were done, I went to grab it and noticed that it wasn't where I put it. As I left the room, I noticed that one of our dogs had almost eaten the whole thing.

I was shocked, disgusted, and worried at the same time. Shitty timing because our dog is on a special diet for digestion issues and clearly has a problem eating random things. Luckily we had a vet appointment the next day. It was an awkward conversation to ask the vet if he would be okay. He assured us that she would, but didn't ask any further questions. Thank fuck, she's still out here thriving. Love y'all.

Could you, okay, number one, who lets their dogs in the room while you're having sex? That's number one. No. No, because they're watching, right? I know somebody who told me that they let their dog be on the bed whenever they're having sex. No, that's like a form of bestiality. Absolutely not.

That's got to be some form of abuse. Like no dog deserves to see that kind of stuff going on. Also, it just makes me uncomfortable. Like I don't want an aunt, like what? Little Oliver is so innocent. Like I couldn't imagine him having to be a witness to such. Your sex of AIDS. Like that's alarming. Number two, I don't know. I think I would have to trust like ask Jeeves or WebMD

about this because I don't know that I would ever feel comfortable enough to go into a vet office and say, my dog ate my NuvaRing last night when I was fucking my man and I need to know if it's going to live. See, that doesn't bother me. I'd be like, yeah, you know what? The dog eat the birth control. What do I do? Yeah, I would just have to ask Jeeves.

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