Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 580: The Long Game
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Tom, it's so good to see you in person.
It really is.
It's so awesome to be here.
It's so amazing.
Both of us got vaccinated well over a month ago.
I was vaccinated late.
You were vaccinated mid-
Mid-March.
Mid-March.
I was vaccinated late March.
So both of us vaccinated quite some time ago.
So CDC rules,
it's cool to hang out with your vaccinated friends, folks.
And so we are hanging out with our vaccinated friends.
So we are back together in studio
for the first time in a long time.
And it's great to be back in this dynamic.
Here we go, man, in person.
Because it's a different dynamic
when the two of us can see each other.
There's like a lot more energy
than just like when the cat's running around.
You know?
You got to grab Rupert for the camera.
He hates it anyway.
It's getting me back.
It is so nice to be here.
It's so funny because I pulled up and like on my passenger seat, that's the mask seat.
Actually, I just throw my mask over there.
I was like, I don't even have to.
I can go in a.
Go in without.
I can go in someplace other than my house. I could go in without,
yeah, without a mask. And it was a little
weird because every other place other than your own
home that you go into, you wear, you grab
a mask. I still wear a mask. I was like,
I'm not going to fucking wear that mask.
Pointed at it, got out of the car. It was
weird the first couple times going out.
I went out this,
Heath Enright came to town and
I went out to dinner with Heath
and you wear your mask into the building,
but then you take your mask off
when you're seated.
When you're seated, yeah.
And so you're just seated for,
you know, the whole time
and everybody else,
nobody's got a mask on except for the waiters.
And then you wear a mask
to go to the bathroom or whatever.
Right.
But it's really, really a strange feeling.
It's so funny though,
how quickly my brain picked right back up.
It was just like I almost forgot there was a pandemic just sitting there as long as the waitress didn't come by.
Right, as long as that reminder didn't come by.
That's not a reminder.
But then when you stand up, you're suddenly shocked.
You're like, oh, I got to put my mask back on.
I wonder, seriously, I wonder if that's why rural America is much more pandemic in pandemic denial, right? Because their whole
life is exactly like your experience eating dinner. Right. Right. Nobody's wearing a mask.
So like, there's not that like constant reminder that there is in fact a fucking pandemic going on
that 600,000 people are gone just in the States because of this. But if you don't see that
reminder and be like, yeah, it's fucking something that happens on TV.
I met my neighbor the other day.
Oh, how was it?
And so like I moved from middle Chicago
to an area that's not as progressive.
It's just, I looked on the map.
There was a thing that was going around for a while.
The New York Times had a,
basically would tell you sort of
what the split Democrat, Republican,
where you're at if you type it in.
And so I typed it in and I thought,
you know, what do I got? Where am I at? I'm actually in the minority now. The Democrats
are in the minority. Really? Yeah, in this area. So, you know, I wind up talking to a couple of
neighbors and nothing really comes up, right? Nobody's really saying anything. Next door neighbor
here got vaccinated. So we saw each other. Yeah. We both kind of had our masks out.
And so like,
you know,
you,
you suspect there's,
there's,
you know,
they're,
they're tied to reality.
Yeah.
They're not fucking insane.
We're out working on the yard and a neighbor across the street comes over first day.
First time we signed was actually a couple of days ago and we meet and we talk for a few minutes and everything seems to be going kind of normal at first.
And then he says something about the pandemic.
He says, oh, this pandemic.
He says, if this was a real pandemic, you'd see people in the street.
And I said, tell that to people in India.
And he said, that's fake news.
And that's the first time I'd ever heard anybody use the words fake news in real conversation.
And my response was, well, I highly doubt the BBC would be reporting
for politics reasons in the United States.
Fake news.
Fake news, yeah.
I mean, the BBC, what vested interest does the BBC have?
And he kind of waved his hand.
And he said, oh, it's not that big a deal.
And I said, it is a big deal.
I said, it's a very big deal.
The COVID's a very big deal.
Yeah.
I was not ready to just be like,
oh, I guess we're just
neighbors and we're just gonna be like friends yeah right i just no i'm gonna push back and i
i just kept pushing back and he's like i had it early on and i had i had to get well i had
walking pneumonia with it and i'm just thinking it is a big deal then the why that it fucking
blows my mind when people are like i had it and i was real sick and you're just like yeah yeah okay
so you know how you were real sick?
Well, some people get sicker than that.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
What is wrong with you?
What world are you?
It's like, I've had things.
So I had meningitis, right?
Yeah.
I had meningitis.
I remember this, yeah.
And I got better.
And there were no lasting effects from it.
But some people get meningitis and it fucks them up.
Also, you had meningitis really badly.
And I remember how miserable you were.
I was very sick.
You would never want anybody else to experience that.
Right.
And I also, I don't deny that meningitis is like a big deal, right?
Because you're like, whoa, I had a, like all things considered, mild case.
And it laid me out for two weeks straight.
Laid my ass out.
You slept in the old studio.
In the old studio on a hardwood floor with just like carpet glued to the floor.
Because you couldn't stay in the light.
You couldn't stay in the light.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For two weeks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't understand people who are like, I got real sick from that.
Anyway, it's not real.
It's not a big deal.
How could it not be real?
Yeah.
You got it, stupid.
And then he says, yeah, well, you know, I work for the post office. Yeah. You got it, stupid. And then he says, he says,
yeah, well,
you know,
I work for the post office
and so I got it way early.
They, you know,
they ship stuff from China.
I'm like,
that's not how it's transmitted.
It's not transmitted.
Like, you don't get it from a package.
They ship from China.
You know,
so like,
like this guy is just,
he's just,
he's not tethered to reality.
He's not tethered to reality.
Yeah.
But it's interesting
that it's the first time
I've ever confronted
or been confronted with fake news in a real conversation.
Like, I couldn't believe it.
I'm thinking, what on earth would possess someone
to go over and, I don't know,
Francis Ford Coppola-like,
direct a near-apocalyptic film in India
and pretend it's news?
What would possess someone to do that?
Yeah, and that's somebody whose world is incredibly parochial, right? Like they have,
they have, in order to think that they have a small world, because that means that they don't
have any connections with people in other countries, right? So their entire world is
limited to the people in their sort of sphere of influence. Because if you talk to anybody who
works with people in India, they'll tell you,
yeah, like, I mean, like I've got people that have died in my team. I've got, I have employees in
India. I have a guy that died last week. I've got people that are sick. Like we have people out.
Our production is lower. We have to like, so if you have, and that's not an uncommon experience.
People have friends in England who, you know, it's a pandemic. It's not a localized epidemic.
you know, it's a pandemic. It's not a localized epidemic. Americans have this like so incredibly America centric view of the world that they only see things through the lens of America.
Right. Right. And it's like, man, talk to someone, make a fucking friend across any pond,
pick a pond, make a friend across there. Yeah. It's fucking nuts. Well, and, and, you know,
make a friend across there.
Yeah.
It's fucking nuts.
Well, and, you know,
the talks about vaccines that I've had,
especially online,
are just really just annoying because people will say,
well, they don't even know what's in that vaccine.
And you're like, no, yeah,
they just walked into the lab.
Like when you were a kid.
Who doesn't know?
Who doesn't?
Oh, you don't know.
But that's okay that you don't know.
Well, I don't know what's in a lot of things.
Right?
Like, it's okay.
I'm talking about the person who's sending me a message on Twitter. Of course you don't know what's in a lot of things. Right? Like, it's okay. I'm talking about the person
who's sending me a message on Twitter.
Of course you don't know what's in it.
You would not know.
You would never know what's in it.
But, you know,
you know what you could do
is you could go to a bunch of school
and you can learn what's in it.
Right.
It's not unknowable facts.
It's just,
that's not your particular area of expertise.
Like, I don't know what's in a watch.
Like, I'm wearing a watch right now.
It works.
It tells me the time. If you were to be like, how does a watch work? I'd be like, I don't really know. in a watch. Like, I'm wearing a watch right now. It works. It tells me the time.
If you were to be like, how does a watch work?
I'd be like, I don't really know.
Yeah, a bunch of gears do stuff.
I have skeleton watches.
I look at them like, looks cool.
Don't know how it works.
Build a watch.
Can't do it.
I fuck with this most of the world.
I don't know how it works.
Build a TV from scratch.
Right.
Remember the guy who built the toaster from scratch?
The toaster project.
The toaster from scratch. the toaster project the toaster
from scratch
there's this
really great book
and it's really more
like a book about
like supply chain
economics
but it's like a guy
decided he wanted
to build a toaster
as his PhD project
or master's thesis
I don't remember which
totally from scratch
meaning every piece
he was going to like
like if he was going
to get like tungsten
he was going to find
rocks and melt the tungsten out of it if he was going to like have iron he was going to like, like if he was going to get like tungsten, he was going to find rocks and melt the tungsten out of it.
If he was going to like have iron,
he was going to smelt the iron.
So he's going to,
and all he wanted to do was build a toaster.
It is the worst thing.
It catches on fire.
It's the ugliest toaster you've ever seen.
It's the best.
Check that book out.
The world is too complicated
for anyone to know how it all works.
Yeah.
But they have to rely on it.
What they want to do
is type a few things in Google
and they want to get an answer. And the want to do is type a few things in Google and, and they want to,
they want to get an answer.
And the answer that they're going to find most likely for them is that
vaccines are bad.
And that's the,
that's going to be the word that they take.
That's going to be the thing that they pull away from it.
And so,
yeah,
it's,
it's a weird world right now,
but I,
I will say I'm,
I'm utterly grateful that we're in studio together because it's just been so
long.
And it is a very isolating
thing this last year has been horribly isolating for everybody and you know there's a certain
amount of zoom fatigue you and i both have oh my god and now we're recording two shows on zoom
and it gets to the point where you're like now i'm doing this and i worked all day on zoom and
then i come here and i do it on zoom and it's just a much better feeling. It feels like the difference between having a friend that you're hanging out with and
like more work to do today.
Yeah, right.
You know, and I don't mean it in a shitty way, but it's like, like you said, like you're
on Zoom literally all day.
It's all day.
And then it's like, all right, let's do some Zoom.
And you're like, okay, well, I'm on Zoom with Cecil and I care more about that than I care
about my other work meetings.
But also like we're trying to produce a product.
Like we got to have dinner together. Yeah, We got to have dinner. We got to like
bullshit and catch up and like give you a hug. Like, like I feel human just being with somebody.
Yeah. It's a different feeling. It's definitely a different feeling. And it's been a while,
like a year of deprivation for so many people. And so I hope it's my hope now that, you know,
with more people getting vaccinated, that we'll start to see more and more regularity
returning to our lives.
I hope so too, man.
The numbers look great.
The trend lines.
Fingers crossed, man.
Fingers crossed.
And you know, we're going into a slow season anyway
because of the summer, you know,
and maybe Trump meant this year,
it's going to just disappear.
Oh yeah.
It's just like magic.
All you have to do is all the work.
All you have to do is engineer a vaccine from start to finish.
Distribute it on a massive scale.
It's a problem.
And get people to take it.
Problems will solve themselves.
We just have to do all of the work.
Who knew it was this complicated?
Did you guys know the flu kills 60,000 people?
Yeah, man.
Yeah, dude.
Fucking lots of people knew that.
Everybody knew it, bro.
You stupid asshole.
Speaking of a stupid asshole, Tom. Yeah, dude. Fucking lots of people knew that. Everybody knew it, bro. You stupid asshole. Speaking of a stupid asshole, Tom, let's talk about this.
Oh, this story.
This story made me giggle like a schoolgirl.
It's so good.
From the New York Times,
Trump shuts down his blog frustrated by its low readership.
So this is great.
So after he got kicked off fucking Twitter
and he got kicked off fucking Facebook
and then Facebook punted
and they may or may not keep him off, but whatever. He's off now.
He started
like, I mean, it's a blog.
Like, I think he wanted it to be a little more
grandiose than a blog, but at the end of the day,
it's a fucking blog, man. It's like from the desk
of Donald J. Trump.
And I wonder, like, how small is the desk?
Is it a little desk? It's a tiny desk with his big hands.
His tiny hands on his tiny desk.
What is he?
Norma's gut.
Oh gosh.
It's from the desk.
That's my favorite photo that they took of him during his presidency.
There are so many good ones.
Pointing at somebody in that tiny little desk.
It is genuinely my favorite thing.
I will say that I love that photo.
I genuinely love that photo. There are some wonderfully unflattering photos
because he's such a hideous fucking human being.
Like every single thing about Donald Trump
from a physical attractiveness perspective.
Admittedly.
His body is horrible.
Horrible.
Horrible.
His body is horrible.
He looks like human-shaped mashed potatoes.
That's what he looks like.
He does look like that.
Somebody put it like their dad's suit on a human.
It's horrible.
He looks like five pounds of shit in a $3 sock.
I mean, that's what he looks like.
He can't dress himself.
He can't.
He looks terrible.
So there's so many wonderful pictures.
But when he's sitting at that little desk.
That little desk is so amazing.
It makes him look so small and insignificant.
It's perfect.
It's perfect.
It's the little kids table.
It's the kids table of presidents.
And the best part is,
is if that video of him,
and he's just like,
how dare you?
He's getting indignant.
Super amazing.
It's super amazing.
So he's got this fucking stupid goddamn blog
from the desk of Donald J. Trump. And like, I just got to read this because it's super amazing. So he's got this fucking stupid goddamn blog from the desk of Donald J. Trump
and like, I just gotta read
this because it's so delightful.
Mr. Trump had become frustrated after hearing from
friends that the site was getting little traffic
and making him look small and irrelevant.
Ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
I love that so much.
So on his stupid fucking
blog it says, and I love this because just listen to on his stupid fucking blog, it says,
and I love this because just listen to the contradictions in this sentence.
In a time of silence and lies,
a beacon of freedom arises,
a place to speak freely and safely. Is there an eagle?
I was like,
straight from the desk of Donald J. Trump.
It's Eagle Man from those old commercials.
Oh, yeah.
You're going to love your low rates.
That's a Chicago commercial, folks.
Is that just Chicago?
Eagle Man?
Because Man Cow was on those commercials.
That's true.
That is local.
I suspect it's local.
I love that in a time of both silence and lies.
Which is it?
Are they silent lies?
You could lie by omission.
Okay.
All right.
You got me there.
You got me there.
All right.
All right.
The beacon of freedom arises.
And also you've got like...
Is it...
Does the freedom though,
like the torch of the beacon of freedom,
does it match his comb over?
Like does it come up like his comb over
like in the same...
I don't know.
It probably does.
I just know that his beacon of freedom
looks a lot like that Sargon's eye
or whatever,
fucking Saruman
or whatever that thing is
from Lord of the Rings.
You could get his beacon,
you can get his beacon of freedom,
but he's got to pay you $144,000.
I don't know.
I could,
for $144,000.
I'd do a lot for $144,000.
It's 38 seconds of my time.
You know,
that's easy money.
So I also like incidentally that it's freedom.
And then he does also says a place to speak freely.
And if you were grading this as an English paper,
you'd be like,
pick a different fucking word,
asshole.
You already used free one sentence before.
I know.
Like,
like crack a fucking thesaurus.
Jesus Christ. Yeah. What I love Like, crack a fucking thesaurus, fella. Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
What I love, though,
is that he can tell
he's something of an irrelevance.
Yeah.
And it bothers him.
It hurts him.
It bothers him.
It hurts him, Cecil.
It bothers him, and I like that.
Yep.
I like that.
It's great.
His site was getting, they said,
virtually no traffic.
Yeah.
I don't know how many.
But, you know,
the one thing you've got to understand though,
and this is genuine, that's not a reading crowd.
No, no, no.
So like Twitter is perfect, a perfect medium for him.
He can be angry and offensive and shitty and mean
in a very short time span.
And you don't expect a lot from your readership.
I suspect his briefs from his briefing room
or whatever he had were also very simple,
but you're asking people to go somewhere else
and that cuts off the flow of information.
When it's two clicks deep,
I'm sorry, they're not going to go there anymore.
The thing is like,
you already have an app on your phone
that is the clearinghouse
for entertainment
and information.
And that's your
social media apps
that people tend to use,
right?
So,
if I have to go
to some fucking website
like it's 1998
in order to be like,
oh,
let me check and see
what's going on
on my favorite
ex-president's blog.
You're never going to do it.
Who has blogs anymore?
All,
like the thing is like, like, hey, shut up.
Information is consumed.
Eli has a blog. Eli has, oh, he's never written on it.
Information is consumed casually.
Right.
For the most part.
And I think that's a real problem.
But because information is primarily consumed casually,
when you have to purposefully seek this asshole out, people
aren't all that fucking motivated. Right.
And it's amazing. Right. Like, yeah,
there's the fucking Telegram assholes. Those
guys are maybe going to be motivated. Yeah.
But the rest of the world, the rest of the world
is like moving on, man. They're going to wash their car and
mow their lawn. Did Parler ever come back?
Parler's back on the App Store today.
Okay. All right. Yep. I just saw that.
Well, I mean, that is a place that he can go
that's a place that hasn't banned him right
right
and there's a couple of places that he can go
but he doesn't have a big
his mouthpiece has been shuttered
because of the insurrection that he caused
yep
I mean like
you can't get away
you shouldn't be able to get away with that
and that's
that's like one of the only things to come
of the January 6th day
is
that Trump is no longer a super spreader of
misinformation. Most of everything else is just, I mean, we're not going to see any kind of real
political damage. No, no, no. They've already decided they don't even want to, we don't want
to look into it. Yeah. In fact, it's going to look bad if we look at what happened. You might,
you might wind up getting people energized because of it in the future. So it's, it's a,
yeah. I mean.
It's mostly a lose situation.
It's mostly a lose, but I will say that's an absolute win to get him off those places because he's a menace.
He's an absolute menace.
Yep.
I've just sucked one year of your life away.
What did this do to you?
Tell me.
And remember, this is for posterity, so be honest.
How do you feel?
Oh, and also in schadenfreude news.
Ha ha!
I feel like that kid from The Simpsons.
Yeah! Ha ha!
I feel like I want to point at him.
This story comes in New York Daily News. You can find
it also anywhere, because ha ha!
Anti-vax evangelical
pastor, Rick Wiles!
Rick Wiles! Friend of the show, Rick Wiles. Noted anti-Semite. Yeah.iles friend of the show Rick Wiles
noted anti-semite
hospitalized with COVID-19 and given oxygen
oh yeah
so this story is just great
because fuck that guy
because that's the same guy who went on his
stupid true news thing
and was like oh the
fucking vaccine is a genocide and I'm not
getting any vaccine vaccine vaccine, vaccine.
And that stupid asshole is fucking gasping for breath.
Now, unfortunately, Cecil, you pointed out to me today,
his Twitter says he's getting better.
No, that's what he said.
I mean, like the thing is, is like the true news Twitter
was basically asking for prayers
and it felt like it was a little after this,
but on his Twitter, he said, thanks to Jesus Christ,
I survived the CCP COVID genocide.
I'm not sure what that means.
What is that?
CCP COVID genocide on the American people.
Only America again.
I will be released from the hospital later today.
My breathing has returned to normal.
Pneumonia defeated.
The worst is over.
My deepest gratitude for all the prayers.
I will share more later.
I'm glad he's deepest gratitude for all the prayers,
not the oxygen you got at the fucking doctor.
Thank you.
Right?
Thank you.
It's funny, Cecil,
because I read that and I was like,
motherfucker, when the chips are down,
every fucking one of these religious dicks, right?
Every one.
Every fucking one.
When the chips are down, what do you do?
You go to science, asshole.
You go to science every fucking time.
Every time you really need an answer,
you're like,
ah, you know, I really want some science to help me out and every one of those fucking people that are now pushing anti-vax or or at least vaccine hesitancy are all people that have been fucking
they you know they got the jim you know sean hannity's been fucking you know laura ingram
you know all these fucking vaccinated vaccinated trump himself got vaccinated been fucking, you know, Laura Ingram, you know, all these fucking vaccinated, vaccinated.
Trump himself got vaccinated.
So fuck off.
You know, and if any of them got sick, they would want the best medical scientifically
designed medical care.
What Trump got.
Trump got an amazing.
He fucking got like these squoze, like a bunch of people that had COVID before him in a fucking
juicer and he drank it. Like fucking Elizabeth
Bathory or whatever.
Bring me the virgin COVID blood.
Let me bathe in it.
Get out of here.
Anyway, he posts a prayer
too. Interestingly, Tom,
you're going to have a
hard time guessing this.
Who do you think True News got
as a replacement for rick while
he's getting better during pride month oh oh okay uh it's got to be somebody who's anti-gay decency
uh a bigot uh well-known bigots because you sure maybe a maybe a Daubenmeier Milo Yiannopoulos
I turned it on
really
I turned it on
because I
because Trudeau says
I'm going live
because I wanted to find out
what's going on
on their Twitter
and so I went to their Twitter
and I saw the posts
about Rick
and so I was like
well let me check this out
so I went
and I looked at it
and he looks
I gotta say he looks,
I got to say,
he looks a lot more like snake oil salesman
than he used to.
Okay.
But he's in a suit
and he's there
with another person,
their guest host
during pride month
to sort of say
how not gay they are.
I was going to say,
he's not gay anymore.
Yeah, he's not gay anymore.
Yeah.
So is he,
was he proud before
and now he's not?
How does that even work?
I don't know.
He must have prayed
it all the way though.
Oh, I don't do it.
100% prayed it away.
Do you get to keep the rainbow?
Because I know that we stole,
I know that gay people,
I didn't steal anything.
I'm a cis hetero guy,
but I cheered on the gay people
when they stole the rainbow.
Like I fucking,
when they released the rainbow
or caught the rainbow,
when they opened their Skittles,
whatever they did.
When they tasted the rainbow.
When they tasted the rainbow,
I was there cheering them on. I didn't do anything, but I
cheered them on. Do you, when
you're gay, reform
that Abrahamic tradition,
Noah tradition,
God, and get a rainbow back
when you're not gay anymore? I don't know.
I bet the rainbow...
Can you even buy Skittles
at that point? I don't even know. Are you allowed to buy Skittles? If you're homophobic can you even buy Skittles at that point? I don't even know.
Are you allowed to buy Skittles?
If you're homophobic,
can you buy Skittles?
I don't know.
I don't know the answer to that.
Skittles are a terrible candy too.
They are.
Thank you.
They're a terrible candy.
Skittles are a terrible candy.
Nobody should eat them.
And they also
almost always are stale
when you eat them.
Yeah.
And I didn't even know Skittles,
most of the Skittles I ate were stale
until one time I got a package that wasn't stale.
And I'm like, oh, they're supposed to be soft at first.
They're so hard when they're stale too.
They're like little gobstoppers.
They're horrifying.
You know the worst part about Skittles?
Here's the worst part about Skittles.
Every handful of Skittles tastes exactly the same.
Thank you.
Every single one.
It tastes like indiscriminate fruit object.
That's what it tastes like. Every single one. And here's the thing. What you. Every single one. It tastes like indiscriminate fruit object. That's what it tastes like. Every single
one. And here's the thing. What it should
taste like is I should be able to grab
two or three Skittles and make
a different flavor. And I cannot do
that. You can't do it. If I grab three flavors,
unless they're all the same, unless I got
cherry, cherry, cherry, like a fucking
slob machine,
they all taste, it tastes like
indiscriminate fruit flavor. That's what sugar mud. It tastes like indescribable
fruit flavor.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
It's like,
it's like when you mix
all your like markers together
and you get brown,
it's sugar mud.
It's sugar mud.
That's exactly 100%.
It's fucking gross.
You're 100% true.
It's the worst.
The yellow ones
taste the way
pledge dusting shit smells.
They taste like urinal cakes.
That's what they taste like.
That's the worst.
No, seriously.
And no matter how much frosting you put on a urinal cake, it's not worth taste like. That's the worst. No, seriously. And no matter how much frosting
you put on a urinal cake,
it's not worth it.
I don't care if you cut it into layers.
Oh, it's my birthday.
Whatever.
It doesn't matter.
No, but seriously,
there's a certain amount of those
in a handful
that seriously tastes like
you walked into a men's bathroom.
Oh, you're right.
It's the worst.
It's genuinely the worst.
I've always associated that
with like lemon pledge,
like the dusting junk. Yeah, it's the worst. It's the worst. It's genuine. I've always associated that with like lemon pledge, like the,
the dusting junk.
Yeah.
It's the worst.
It's the worst.
Skittles are the worst candy.
I think we can agree on that.
They might be the worst candy.
There might be the worst candy.
Yeah.
I can't think of a world where I want to eat a Skittle.
There's no,
there's not.
And then they also get stuck in,
they're the worst.
They get stuck in your teeth.
They're the worst.
I hate any of that shit though.
They get stuck.
I'm fucking 43 at this point.
Like anything that sticks to my teeth makes me panic. Yeah. Like I out of air exactly like i'm just like like laughy taffy are
you kidding me i'll confess what are you kidding me it's like you're getting waterboarded like one
of those like sugar babies or something yeah get the fuck i may as well just pull all my own
fucking teeth out a bit of honey nowadays you look like mum raw, the ever living. It's just like strands in your face.
Have you,
have you as an adult eaten one of the sticky stick candies and bit down on it
and you're glued together and you're afraid to open your mouth up.
You're like,
my feelings coming,
my feelings.
It's coming out.
You're like,
I'm going to lose a crown.
Yeah.
Like I'm a hundred percent going to lose a crown.
And then I'm going to feel this immense pain.
Like somebody just punched me in the mouth.
Like Mike Tyson just uppercutted me. I know what's going to happen. crown. And then I'm going to feel this immense pain like somebody just punched me in the mouth. Like Mike Tyson just uppercutted me.
I know what's going to happen to me.
Yeah.
I've done that.
And then there's a moment of just sheer mouth panic
because you're like, I'm glued together.
Hot tea.
I'm glued together forever.
Hot tea.
Is that the answer?
Hot tea is the answer.
That's a smart answer.
Hot tea.
Unless you got like half a candy bar stuck in your mouth,
then you're fucked.
Then you're fucked.
Then you're just fucked.
Then you're just fucked.
No, at that point, you just jump off a bridge.
There's nothing left for you.
Oh, where are we at here?
Okay, that's...
Oh, by the way, Tom,
I wanted to mention this story.
I wanted to say, this is...
This story is so good.
This sheriff,
this sheriff deputy
who posted anti-vaccine content
dies of COVID.
But my favorite comment was somebody commented on it somewhere,
and I don't know where I saw it,
but someone commented,
I guess his immunity was qualified.
It's so mean.
It's so mean.
It's so good, though.
Fuck you.
The dude posted a bunch of stuff.
He even had on his profile picture
one of these like,
I have not been vaccinated.
This says,
33.
He says,
I don't care if you've been vaccinated.
And the other one says,
I have an immune system
is what the other one says.
Well, not anymore.
No, I mean like,
and I think that might be the problem
is your immune system
was just so butch,
it kills you.
I'm killing the COVID. I'm taking me out with it. I have. I think that might be the problem is your immune system was just so butch, it kills you. Yeah,
I have no sense.
I'm killing the COVID,
I'm taking me out with it.
I have.
Yeah,
right?
He's like,
he pulled the pin.
Yep.
I don't even know.
But seriously,
I have no,
I have no,
I don't feel bad
that this guy.
No,
this is fucking hilarious.
This guy literally killed himself.
Like he,
he,
he in the face of this,
and this is the problem. This is the problem
with this disease is that there's just this kind of idea that it's not, it doesn't, it, oh, 2%,
oh, 2%. 2% is a lot. It's a huge amount of people. It's a lot. Think of your multiplier. Yeah.
2% isn't two people. Yeah. It's two times 320 million just in the States. That's why there's
600,000 of us dead.
Yeah.
I also like,
I don't do anything
that has a 2% chance
of fatality.
If I got in my car
and there was a 2% chance
every time I got in the car
that I was going to die.
Yeah.
There's no way
I would take that risk.
Your risk of like,
fuck it,
when you like go
fucking jump out of an airplane.
I've gone bungee jumping.
There is a much higher likelihood
of surviving bungee jumping.
Yeah.
Like I don't do things with a 2% fatality rate.
Nobody actually does.
If like two out of every hundred people died-
On an escalator.
Nobody went on an escalator.
No one would go on the escalator.
Nobody.
Because if at the end,
if at the end there's a 2% chance it opens up,
it's like,
nom, nom, nom, nom. You're like, I'm not getting on that. Are you kidding me end, if at the end there's a 2% chance it opens up, it's like, nom, nom, nom, nom.
You're like,
I'm not getting on that.
Are you kidding me?
I'll take the stairs.
Escalators are terrifying even though they're safe.
I will take the fucking stairs, man.
The moving walkway is hungry.
The moving walkway is hungry.
It's like one of those old robots
that you have to feed by eating.
It's like Rick Wiles,
a wild cat.
He thought those robots.
Military robot.
Yeah, it's like a military robot.
And so it just eats people.
Two out of a hundred people
just get swallowed.
You would never get on that thing.
You wouldn't get on a car
and ride with a two percent.
Think about a roller coaster.
A roller coaster is like
30 people on a roller coaster.
If every third time
two people died on that roller coaster,
you wouldn't be waiting in line for that roller coaster.
It's ridiculous.
I don't understand.
We're like, oh, it's only like 99% survivable.
Okay.
Is that a risk you take doing literally anything else?
But it's funny because people seem to think
they don't think like that.
They don't put those two things together,
but you're right.
There's not a lot of risk in most,
in daily life, there's not a lot of risk.
No.
That kind of risk is unheard of in daily life.
It's lower than 1%.
Like 1%, it's like, no way.
Are you fucking high?
Abortions for all.
Very well.
No abortions for anyone.
Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others.
So this story comes from the Friendly Atheist blog.
Biden reverses Hyde Amendment's abortion funding ban in historic budget proposal.
Now, we talked about some of the items that were in the budget proposal several times now.
It's a big deal. It's a huge $6 trillion budget. There's lots of new stuff in there.
This is really exciting. So the Hyde Amendment, in a nutshell, it's been around for a lot of years,
and it prevents federal dollars from our budget to be used to fund abortion. So money can go to
things like Planned Parenthood, but Planned Parenthood has to segregate the money that they spend on abortion from the rest of the money that they spend on
reproductive and women's care. So those funds can't commingle. What that means in part is that
you can't, if you're on fucking Medicare or Medicaid and you need access to an abortion,
you can't have one. You can't use Medicare and Medicaid dollars
in order to gain access to this basic medical right.
And it is a medical right until it's overturned by,
which it may be, unfortunately, but until it's overturned,
it is a medical right that weirdly is the only thing I can think of
that is singled out.
And this budget does away with that.
And it's really great news.
I think it's wonderful.
You know, there is a definite war on abortion.
It's a war on women, right?
Yes.
It definitely works its way up towards the women,
but it's a war on abortion in this country where they try to limit it.
We saw recently the heartbeat bills that are coming up that are just a disaster.
Poor, I mean, these poor women,
most of the time you don't even know you're pregnant
before the heartbeat.
So the chance of you getting an abortion after that,
you know, you can't in some places.
And so it's a disaster.
Yeah, unless you're a rich lady, right?
Unless you're rich and you could get on a plane and go to another another state where they don't have these draconian laws you can then go to
a plan it could be a private doctor somewhere else it doesn't matter the plan parent but you could go
somewhere else and get a abortion if you're rich enough but poor people don't have this option they
don't have they just can't get in a car and travel to eight hours to the next state.
Or, you know, then they're stuck in the state that they're in.
And they're essentially, you're forced to have the child
that they were going to force you to have.
They also don't ever provide any services
to prevent these pregnancies from even happening.
They don't provide sexual education.
They don't provide condoms.
They don't provide, you know.
Yeah, we don't do any of the things.
Yeah, there's all these things you could do
to stop it to even get to that point,
but they don't do any of that stuff.
And so there's just this war that happens.
And the women are the ones,
the poor women are the ones
that they bear the brunt of this.
They're the ones who are getting attacked.
And we somehow think that that's okay.
And that's just the price of doing business.
That's okay.
And it's bullshit.
And we're seeing now
that the president is making this a priority.
And it's important that he's doing this
because this is one of the things
that the progressives very much wanted.
And the progressives don't want to see
this sort of thing continuing on
where poor women are essentially under assault
and they don't want to see that happen. They're trying to make sure that that doesn't happen. Perfect. I think
this is a great thing. And I'm happy that he followed through on this campaign promise.
There is an ongoing war, as you mentioned, there's a war on people that are poor to keep them poor.
There is like, we talk about America, like it is a bootstraps country, but the reality is that
a tremendous amount of our systems
are in place specifically
because it keeps poor people poor.
And there is a war on women.
And that war on women is specifically designed
to keep women out of the fucking workforce
so they don't compete with men.
That's a huge... If you really gave
a shit about abortion, to your point earlier,
if you really gave that much of a shit about abortion,
you would have a comprehensive sexual education. You would have access to all kinds of birth
control at any age without parental consent, right? And then, you know, you would also have
programs, social programs in place to keep kids busy. That's what you would have. And you,
if you had all those things in place, the amount of unwanted pregnancies
would be drastically reduced.
And that's just teen pregnancies.
But then you would also have social programs
which allow people to take care of kids
without shouldering these massive childcare cost burdens.
Some of the statistics around abortion
are really telling a huge number of women
that have abortions already have kids.
Yeah.
They already have kids.
The thing is, they know they can't afford yet another kid.
They know.
Yeah.
But if childcare were subsidized, if you really cared about abortion, subsidize childcare.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Because those, a lot of people choose to have an abortion because they can't afford to have another fucking person.
Yeah.
That's why, like a lot of people like can't afford to take themselves
out of the workforce again.
Right.
But we don't have
social safety nets.
We don't have
comprehensive sex ed.
We don't have access
to reproductive care.
This is not about
aborting babies.
If you really cared
about aborting babies,
you wouldn't just ban abortion.
You would figure out
a way to stop
the entire process.
Right.
You would cut this off
at the fucking demand side,
not the supply side.
You would in a minute, yeah.
But they don't.
They don't.
This is not about that.
It's about making sure to keep women down and to keep fucking poor people down.
Yep.
How do you like that?
My own mother falling for that stuff.
Well, you don't know, Larry.
Maybe Dr. Kuh-hoo-ha can help her.
Doctor?
That guy's no doctor.
He's a quack.
So this story comes from the Boston Globe.
I'm going to read a chunk of this just to describe it a little bit better,
and then we'll comment on it after.
She's stuck with $75,000 in bills after her healthcare-sharing ministry refuses to pay.
I will read the full article. How's that?
Betsy Hargraves wanted to save a few bucks on health insurance a couple of years ago,
so she switched to a religious-based plan.
What?
For a while, right?
It worked, cutting her monthly premium
by hundreds of dollars. Then in March,
she had double hip replacement surgery
to relieve acute pain, followed by a four-day
stay in the hospital and extensive physical
therapy. The surgery was successful,
but Hargraves' insurer, in
quotes, refused to cover any
of the costs. Any? Jesus.
Saying her surgery was the result of a pre-existing condition.
She was settled with nearly $75,000 in medical bills.
They told her the day before surgery,
it would not be covered.
Oh my gosh.
Harger's financial crisis is rooted in her decision
to opt out of a traditional health insurance plan,
which she says she did
without understanding all the ramifications.
Under the Affordable Care Act, traditional health insurers are prohibited from denying
coverage to members due to pre-existing conditions. It was one of the biggest selling
points of Obamacare. But Hargrave's plan, One Share Health, is not traditional insurance.
It is non-profit, quote, healthcare sharing ministry, end quote. Yeah, fucking nonsense.
And like all such ministries, exempt from the ACA,
and therefore not legally mandated to cover pre-existing conditions.
Some healthcare ministries have come under sharp criticism from state regulators
who say their aggressive marketing efforts have misled some consumers
into the false belief their coverage is the equivalent of traditional insurance,
only cheaper.
At the bottom of its website homepage, one share says it is not
an insurer. In an email, a spokeswoman
for the nonprofit told me it's different
from a traditional insurer because it does
not assume the risk of medical expenses
incurred by its members, does not
promise to pay expenses, and makes
no guarantees of coverage. What do you
pay them for then?
Instead,
it collects monthly, quote, contributions,
the equivalent of premiums paid to insurers,
from members and coordinates the payment
of eligible medical expenses among members
according to its own rules.
That's what insurance is.
You just wrote down what insurance is without the rules.
It's insurance with no rules.
Yeah, it's exactly right.
And then that's how they got around
all this bullshit with the,
you know, with the ACA,
you wouldn't have been able
to get around that.
But now you,
they get around it.
They get around it
because they're religious, man.
We talked about this with like,
how many times we talked about this
with like,
childcare.
Fucking childcare.
Childcare is the biggest.
Thank you.
Yeah, childcare is the biggest.
And it's like, okay, well,
we decided that a good rule
for childcare
is that there shouldn't be a drowning pool
in the center of the fucking baby dome
or wherever you keep these kids.
And they're just like, okay, all regular places,
you have to check to make sure there's no hazards.
But what we're going to do is distribute plastic bags
and swimming pools to all the religious charities
because there's gonna be
a dead kid there this year.
If you fucking
hang a cross, then you can have
fucking zip ties and handguns laying around.
There's such a sad story of this one guy
that this little kid
leaves, goes away, you know,
see content warning here, there's a child
I'm gonna talk about a child dying, but seriously, like fucking
there's a kid, a little kid who winds up walking away,
getting lost because they don't have fucking qualified people who work at the
fucking religion place.
It's your fucking local church to watch your kids.
And the little kid wanders away and drowns in the baptismal.
Yep.
Yep.
The drowning pool because they fucking,
they literally don't pay attention because they don't,
they're,
they're not qualified individuals,
man. Well, they don't have to have the same. They're there. Once't, they're not qualified individuals, man.
Well, they don't have
to have the same,
once you're a religious
organization,
you don't have to have
a student to caregiver ratio,
right?
Yeah, staffing.
So all of those rules
that we've decided
are good rules
for public health
and public safety,
all of a sudden
they're not good rules
if you fucking have a cross
or it's in a mosque
or it's in a fucking synagogue.
Yeah.
It doesn't make any sense.
Say it out loud. Yeah. Why is it not a good rule or a good requirement mosque or it's in a fucking synagogue. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. Say it out loud.
Yeah.
Why is it not a good rule or a good requirement?
The same thing is true of insurance.
Same thing.
Heavily regulated industry because it's rife for abuse.
Yeah.
And because in America,
people rely on insurance to not go fucking bankrupt when they get sick or get injured.
Right.
And it's a terrible system and we should get rid of it.
And I feel so bad for this lady
because what drove her into it
is the ridiculously high cost
of health insurance premiums.
100%.
Our premiums here in the States
are egregious.
I mean, they are,
if you're out of,
if you ask an American
what they pay in health insurance
and you don't live in the States,
you will fucking weep like a child.
And then if you ask
what their employer pays, because that's
money that could be going to the employee
and isn't. Like you would fucking
weep until you, you would never stop weeping.
And then if you ask like, well, if you get
sick, is everything covered? Well, no. You still
have to pay your fucking deductible. And then you
still have to pay a co-insurance rate.
Getting sick, even with insurance
can cost you five figures.
Fucking A, man.
I mean, this year alone, like my wife got sick this year.
My family deductible is $7,500.
So they don't pay shit until I pay $7,500.
Well, by fucking end of February, I was in it for $7,500.
Then they start paying at 80%.
So you're still paying 20%.
And then I pay 20% on top of that.
And then that goes until you reach an out-of-pocket maximum of, I think, $12,000 or $13,000.
And then it all resets at the end of the calendar year.
So magically, December 31st, it's all wiped away.
So if you get sick at the end of the year instead of the beginning of the year,
you can in a six or seven-month period, if you get sick, you can get stuck with, of the beginning of the year You can in a six or seven month period if you get sick you can get stuck with and this is with good insurance
I work for a huge company. I have great insurance relatively speaking across america
Like you can easily in a six month period spend twenty thirty thousand dollars. Yeah on an illness or an injury
Yeah, the amount of money that you have to spend and then and then you're looking at
You know the amount of money that that comes out of your pocket and then you know, you're you're still Contributing to spend. And then you're looking at, you know, the amount of money that comes out of your pocket.
And then, you know, you're still
contributing every month. Yeah, you see.
It's not like once you reach that out-of-pocket
maximum, you're done. Dust your hands off for the year.
That out-of-pocket maximum is just for the
deductible stuff. Yeah.
Your insurance premiums are still being paid
every month. And your business is still paying
those. So that's all still coming out.
Yeah.
I mean, it's obscene.
It's obscene.
So I feel bad because this lady, she wanted to save a few bucks.
She puts this money into this thing that describes itself in all the meaningful ways that insurance is described.
It is a community pool of money, which is used.
I mean, it literally sounds just like insurance.
Like if you were to ask somebody, what do you think insurance is?
They would write what this thing wrote.
Yeah.
Except for like,
except for what happened is this lady went to a doctor
a few years back and she said,
hey, you know what?
My hips hurt.
And the doctor said,
don't worry about it.
It's probably nothing.
But they made a note of it,
her chart.
And by noting it in her chart,
that then disqualified it.
It's a pre-existing condition.
Yeah.
As a pre-existing condition.
So pre-existing conditions are like the ACA wiped that out
and everybody in America pretty much fucking take a poll.
America's like, yeah, that should not be a fucking thing.
It was just an evil fucking thing insurance companies invented
out of thin air to deny coverage.
Get out of paying fucking free car.
Yep.
That's exactly what it is.
And they did it a lot.
All the time.
To a lot of people.
Enough so that they literally tried to stop it
when Obama came into office.
Oh, they fought hard against that.
They fought hard.
They're like, we got to cover people that are sick.
Are you kidding me?
That's going to cut into our profits.
What are we going to do?
What do we look like, a healthcare industry?
It's ridiculous.
And this poor lady, I mean, 75 grand in the hole.
And after this news organization picked it up,
now the company is going to try to renegotiate her bill for her,
but they're not saying they're picking up.
They're not paying for any of it.
They're just like, yeah, we'll make some phone calls
and see if the people you owe money to will take less money from you.
Yeah, but they're not buckling up.
Right.
We're not contributing because Jesus wouldn't want us to contribute money.
I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people
in Congress and find out,
are they pro America or anti America?
So returning guests,
I feel,
I feel like I'm back in the studio,
back in the studio.
We're back to the talkies.
And here we go,
man.
Michelle O'Bachman from right wing.
I missed her.
Crazy,
crazy woman.
God, the lady's got the craziest eyes.
She does have the craziest eyes.
She has the craziest eyes of anybody you've ever seen.
If you were to just hand me a picture of Liz Crokin,
who I miss, by the way.
I miss Liz too.
If anyone out there knows.
I think she's stuck in a human trafficking tunnel somewhere.
Like, I don't know if she's getting like new fingers put on or like what her deal is,
like Lee press on fingers or something. You know what? If I get just two little hooks,
it's just like, it's just Play-Doh. Just little dildos. Like,
and if you want a little dildo, you can head over to adamandeve.com and her glory at checkout.
All right, so let's play Michelle O'Bachman.
She's saying progressive left carried out the Capitol insurrection
to put Trump down the memory hole.
And if you want to put something in a memory hole,
you can go to adamandeve.com.
All right, so let's play Michelle O'Bachman,
who looks remarkably younger, Tom.
She's crazily Photoshopped in this picture.
Yeah, either
she got in a fucking surgery
related time machine. Yeah.
She saw the guys from Botched or whatever.
Right? They did a good job. They did a nice job.
They really like fucking sanded that thing down.
Yeah, they really pinched the
eyes there really good. Really good job
there, pinching the eyes. We're going to play
Michelle O'Bachman here. Januaryuary 6th we're all told that that's the worst day that ever
happened these were the worst riots in america it absolutely wasn't it is my opinion that this was
a theatrical event that the progressive left put on the individuals who were the instigators who brought this.
If you're going to have a big
huge
acting production
though, you want the left on your side.
You want Hollywood.
You know what I mean? You don't want the people
on the right because they can't.
We've been on god awful movies.
We know what the right can make as a movie.
Think about the guys in your, like, theater troupe.
They're fucking lefties, man.
They're lefties for their own fucking safety.
They're lefties.
Are you fucking kidding me?
I, what?
Like, this would be, like, the weirdest flash mob.
It's a literal mob.
I mean, seriously, Tom.
Seriously, Tom.
How is it that we're at this place? And it's
such a weird place too, because the people that are, they're going to use this, the right is going
to use this as a galvanizer to show the anger. And they're already doing this in places to try
to take voting rights away, right? So that they're using this as a way to say, look at how angry the people were that the
vote wasn't as pristine as it should have been.
It wasn't as clean as it should have been.
And one, you know, there was, there was rules that were thrown in place after the fact.
And, and, and we're, that's what they were mad about.
They were mad that Trump said they literally lied and stole the election.
That's what they were mad about.
But they have twisted it now into a new narrative.
And that narrative is basically,
look, hey man, fucking, they were pissed off,
but they're like Schrodinger's riot
because it's like, on one hand, they're super pissed,
but on the other hand, they never did it.
Yeah, on the one hand, they did it
and it was entirely justified.
Right.
And on the other hand, not it.
I didn't do it.
That was somebody else.
We're really at a place where you're saying that wasn't me.
Yeah.
Really?
Because I saw a bunch of people wearing fucking MAGA shirts and carrying Trump flags.
Now, granted, I could buy a shirt.
Sure, anybody could do that.
Right?
Except for that they arrest these people and they have years-long histories
on their social media
of being right-wing nutjobs.
And when you interview
their fucking family,
they're like,
yeah, that person went down
a fucking rabbit hole.
Yeah.
How many, like, articles
have you read?
QAnon.
They're, like, all QAnon people.
So, like,
that would be
that fucking amazing grift.
Okay.
In about three and a half years,
we're going to need you
to storm the Capitol.
Here's what I'm going to do.
I need you to start listening to Rush Limbaugh in 1996.
Right.
Once you do that,
now I want you to wean yourself off Limbaugh
and move over to Glenn Beck once he goes on to Fox News.
After him, go to Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson.
But I want you to start, like around 2008, 2009,
start tuning into Alex Jones.
Right.
I mean, seriously,
these people have histories.
Have you gone to 4chan?
Right.
It's like,
let me just see your phone.
Yeah.
This website's not going to exist
for 20 years,
but I'll type it in there now.
Yeah, don't.
What's a website?
Y'all know.
You'll find out.
Type it in your phone.
You'll understand.
You'll understand in 20 years.
I'll write it on a piece of paper,
glue it to everything you put in your pocket.
It's so fucking stupid
because you're right,
it's such a long game.
It is such a long game
for every one of these people
because they,
like you said,
arm long length
of every fucking thing they've ever done
that's 100% right.
You know?
And you can't,
you can't take,
there's no way they just caught the guys on the right. I know. Thank you. You know, and you can't, you can't take, there's no way they just caught the guys on the right.
I know, thank you.
You know?
And there's thousands of people who is doing this, who is convincing thousands of people
to show up and put themselves in harm's way and to show up and put themselves in like
the law's way and to like fist fight.
How much do you have to pay somebody to fist fight the cops?
I think a lot of money.
I think I hate Donald Trump more than most people,
but there's no amount of money that could have put me there pretending I was
one of those.
No fucking way.
There's not enough money.
No fucking way.
I wouldn't want to pretend I was one of them.
I don't care how much I could grift them or tick tock them or pretend I was
them and put a YouTube up later and be like, ha ha, I trolled you.
Gotcha.
It would not be worth it.
It doesn't even make any sense.
I don't want to surround myself with those people.
Yeah, that's the thing.
It's like I have joked a million times like, man, if I just like fucking wanted the cash, I should just go be at one of these fucking evangelical preachers.
I would fucking kill it. Yeah. Stand in front
of a crowd. Fire and brimstone. Be fucking loud
and like persuasive. I could fucking
crush that. But the thing is like
one, I'm not a bad person with no
morals. Yeah. Two, I can find
other ways to support my family.
And three, and it's not a small three,
is like your fucking people
are horrifying to spend time with.
I don't want to spend any time. I don't want to any time with you. I don't want to spend time with you.
I don't want to like
surround myself
with your gross aesthetic
and your nasty fucking values
and your fucking nasty mom jeans.
Get the fuck out of here.
And that's just,
and that's just going
to like an evangelical.
Imagine doing that
in front of the fucking capital
of all those people.
I couldn't imagine.
And that's the thing.
It's like,
who are you crapping, lady?
No, there's nobody there.
No.
That is fucking doing
what you said.
False flagging.
Bullshit.
Get the fuck out of here.
These were agitators
brought in
to create this problem.
I believe it was
specifically done
to rebrand
Donald Trump
as being an insurrectionist
and a leader
of a terrorist movement.
He didn't deny it, though.
He fucking praised it.
And also, like,
what, did they take over his Twitter feed
for three months?
Right.
Because, like,
somebody tweeted that under his name.
And it certainly wasn't Antifa.
Right, yeah.
And did they force him at gunpoint
to say all those fucking horrible things,
to do all those interviews,
to stand up in front of air force one or whatever,
what a fucking air force chopper and have his little stupid press conference while he was walking to the chopper.
So we could yell it at people and then not hear their questions.
Did it,
did they do all of that because they would have to literally control him like
with a fucking hand up his ass for three straight months
while he's pretending
that he lost the election.
Or that he pretended
that he won the election.
You got to rebrand
Donald Trump.
First of all,
I thought your guy
was the king of branding.
Right?
I thought that was
your fucking guy.
Your guy is the fucking
king of branding
except for when it's not.
When it's not.
He's super fucking powerful
except for when he's the victim
and he's a fucking... He's in the deep state. He's the fucking... Like you say, he's Schrodinger's not, right? He's super fucking powerful except for when he's the victim and he's a fucking,
he's in the deep state.
He's the fucking,
like you say,
he's Schrodinger's president, right?
Like he's got all the power and all the answers,
but he's still sometimes,
he's always losing.
But he's always the underdog.
He's always losing.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm so fucking powerful.
I'm such a fucking big star.
It'd be like,
I can fucking arm wrestle anyone,
but then when I lose,
it's like, nah,
you cheated
because you got robot arms.
Yeah, exactly.
You got robot arms. Get the fuck you got robot arms get the fuck out of
here get the fuck out of here with that shit yeah like trump while this shit was happening trump was
like tweeting out like like it went on on on air and it was like oh you guys are beautiful people
go home thank you special place in my heart They had to take the video down because everybody on the legal team
looked at it and said,
holy shit.
But taking it down doesn't mean it didn't happen.
It still fucking happened,
but they took it down
and then he had to replace it
with the one where he's clearly
being held at gunpoint.
The day of January 6th
was not,
okay, I'll say it,
a good day.
Go away, please.
Don't ever come back.
You're bad people.
He had to like say
they were bad people though.
Yeah.
And you could tell
he never wanted to say that.
In fact,
I think while I was watching it,
they had to cut
to a different camera.
They edited that shit.
They had to cut
to a different camera
because there were several times
where you could tell
he probably stopped
and questioned
whoever wrote it for him.
Right.
Jim, are you sure we want to say this?
Are you sure we want to say this? We're going to lose our base.
Our boys are proud. They're proud boys.
Exactly.
This was done to rebrand the Make America Great agenda. Because remember,
that was considered extremely popular by about 80 million Americans. So they wanted to rebrand, make America great as an evil thing.
And those of us who supported Donald Trump and that agenda as evil and
terrorists,
that's all a lie.
As your listeners,
she says,
she says,
terrorists on the terrace,
terrorist.
Trump was ever the president.
You wouldn't even know that those four years of his presidency existed.
George Orwell.
Oh, we know.
God, wouldn't that be amazing though?
If we could just go back.
You know, what's so funny is recently, I want to say this week,
there was a QAnon big hullabaloo, like a conference.
Yeah, there was a QAnon club conference or whatever.
And people were saying Donald Trump told them
that he was going to be reinstated as the president.
Yeah, I read that same thing.
Same thing.
He's still coming, guys.
He's still coming.
It's one of those things that you're just listening to
and thinking, are you fucking serious?
Yeah, I mean, look, man,
the restaurant is closing, your date's not showing up.
Man, it is.
No matter how fucking desperate you are,
she is not showing up. At this point, how fucking desperate you are yeah she is not showing
at this point you're sleeping near the dumpster by lady and the tramp and they're eating the
fucking pasta puzzle like get the fuck out of here they're kissing over the noodle not you
wrote a book 1984 he talked about a concept called the memory hole if the government in
charge didn't want you to remember someone, they put them in the memory hole.
Put it in the memory hole.
Donald J. Trump has been put in a memory hole.
Make America Great Again has been put in a memory hole.
In other words, oh, it never happened.
Oh, if only.
If I could erase that.
If I had a fucking men in black pen and I could just fucking take that shit out of my mind.
Yeah, just remove it.
I want to eternal sunshine that shit.
I want eternal sunshine the last four years.
I would be willing to get rid of some really precious memories along with it.
You know?
That'd be cool.
Birth of my fucking children.
Fucking wipe it out.
First time you hold your fucking firstborn,
I'd be like, fucking get rid of it.
Fucking who cares?
Inject that shit.
Who fucking cares?
I can't believe that that's the angle that they're taking.
Like, you know, it just feels,
you know, remember when we used to cover the racists
and the racists, when they get caught,
they immediately fall back on themselves and say,
oh, I wasn't trying to be racist.
I wasn't trying to.
And you just want to look at them and say,
motherfucker, own your racism.
Just be racist.
Just be racist.
Like, if you're going to be a racist, at least look yourself in the mirror and be like, I'm a fucking
racist. Like the guy who has the fucking swastika tattooed on his face. He's not fooling anybody.
He's not fooling himself. He's not fooling anybody else. He at least is an honest racist.
Tell me why you, look, if you're a fucking racist, I'm always going to think you're a
fucking bad person. But if you can like own it and then try to sell it to me, at least I think
you believe it.
At least you're not using it as a way
to try to manipulate somebody.
But when it comes to this stuff too, it's like,
man, just fucking own it.
If you think that the
insurrection was important or whatever,
own it. If you think it was bad,
at least Ben Shapiro
isn't denying that it happened.
Yes.
Right?
Yeah.
At least he came out and said,
oh my God,
what a terrible look.
It was stupid.
You shouldn't have done it.
I don't know if he's changed his tune.
I'm only going by the day
that he did it.
So I have no idea
if he changed his tune afterwards.
But at least the day of,
he was like,
this is fucking stupid.
Mitch McConnell.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The speech from the floor.
Yeah.
Horrible.
Eviscerated.
Mitt Romney.
Yep.
You know?
Eviscerated Trump for it.
Yeah.
I mean,
later Mitch McConnell
fucking went back on it
and he's fucking got,
he's fucking got
balls on his chin right now.
Oh, yeah.
So bad.
I mean,
they're kind of already there.
I mean,
like when you look at his chin,
he looks like Peter Griffin.
He does look like testicle chin.
He looks like a fucking
droopy old man sack
for his fucking chin.
He looks like, just like the guy from that old man sack for his fucking shit he looks like
just like the guy
from that fucking
pan labyrinth
with the eye hands
he looks just like that
he acts just like that
if you fucking take anything
from the fucking table
walks around
fucking stalk you
terrifying fucker
do you believe in UFOs
astral projections
mental telepathy
ESP
clairvoyance
spirit photography telekinetic movement full trance mediums, the Loch Ness Monster, and the theory of Atlantis.
If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say.
So this story comes to the New York Times.
Stimulus checks substantially reduced hardship.
Study shows.
hardship, study shows.
Researchers found that sharp declines in food shortages, financial
instability, and anxiety
coincided with the two most recent rounds
of payments. And I grabbed
the Cecil because to me
it's evidence of a couple of things that are important.
The first is proof that government works.
And that's important
because we've been sold
since Reagan a bill of goods
that the most terrifying words in the English language are,
I'm from the government, I'm here to help.
And that's become part of an ongoing zeitgeist,
a repeating narrative that people have believed and internalized.
And it's bullshit, right?
Because government does work.
It works not just here in America,
but it works in many, many, many other countries.
And it can really substantially increase our quality of life.
Um, and it's also important.
I think it's, it's evidence that small payments is 14, $1,500 is not a lot of money, um, to
each individual, but small payments spread out across the, the, the, uh, entirety of
the populace and most of the populace saves or most of the populace, saves us money in the long term.
Because if it reduces food shortages, it reduces the incurred social costs of food shortages.
If it reduces other social costs, we pay economic costs for all those social costs.
Every dollar we spend, we probably make more than a dollar back on it.
So it's good fiscal sense, and it's compassionate, and it's evidence that government works. And it's the fiscal sense and it's compassionate and it's evidence that government works.
And it's the bottom up.
It's that trickle up or whatever it is.
You know, I don't know what you call it.
You plant the seed, whatever.
I don't know what you call it.
It's not trickled down, right?
Whatever it is, it's not trickled down.
It's bottom up.
It's bottom up.
It's plant a seed, whatever it is.
You know what I mean?
Like it's that idea that if you put hands,
put money in the hands of people
who need money, they're going to spend it., put money in the hands of people who need money,
they're going to spend it.
You put money in the hands of people who don't need money,
they're going to save it or they're going to invest it.
Yep.
And we've seen this time and time and time again.
And especially when it comes to these stimulus payments,
you know, this last round that just comes out,
you read some of these stories in here.
Read this article.
Go to this article, guys.
New York Times lets you have like two or three a month or something like that. Open an incognito mode. You can have as many as you want. Go there and Read this article. Go to this article, guys. New York Time lets you have like
two or three a month or something like that. Open an incognito mode. You can have as many as you
want. Go there and read this story because this is fucking heartbreaking. Like it's sad. It's not
fucking, it's sad to watch, you know, you're in a pandemic. You're, you know, you're coming out of
the, you're starting to grip and claw your way out of this pandemic. And you're also seeing that
people are, there's so much more hardship than just a pandemic.
There's so much more hardship.
And it's compounded by the pandemic.
And so you get a chance to see and read these stories
of these people who are in real desperate dire straits.
And what happens is they get this money
and this money is a lifesaver to these people.
It's a lifesaver.
We're talking about people
who can now have three meals a day.
Yeah.
Like think about when we had Keith on from Modest Needs.
The average gift from Modest Needs
was about I think $700 is what he said.
About $700.
This is double that.
And Modest Needs gets people out of a crisis, right?
And we have so many people in America
who are on the verge of or just skirting a crisis
or in the midst of a crisis all the time, all the time.
Our national poverty rate or poverty level
is set so insanely low.
If you're trying to raise a family
on the median income in this country,
you're fucking poor.
The median income in this country is fucking low, man. And if you're trying to raise a family on the median income in this country, you're fucking poor. The median income in this country is fucking low, man. And if you're trying to raise a family on that, where you're
trying to feed, house, clothe, educate, transport three, four people on $40,000, $50,000 a year,
man, you're a fucking one broken radiator away from bad shit. Sure, sure. You know, how are you going to send kids to college?
It's that generational cyclical problem
that poverty is and creates.
And government can help.
Yeah.
It can.
And like, that's the reason to have a society.
Yeah.
The reason to have a society
is so that we are all in it together.
Yeah.
Like, I don't understand what happened.
Like, America's just fucking so bad
at understanding that we're on the same team
for such a patriotic, nationalistic country,
we're weirdly individualistic
at the same time that we're hyper-nationalistic.
It's got this,
always has this undertone of
what does my neighbor have
and how do I get it?
Yeah.
You know, there's always this
underlying current of greed and envy
that always is so pervasive, but
yet there's also this weird nationalist,
like you say, hyper-nationalist thing.
But they fight, and the greed wins.
Greed wins all the time.
Greed and envy win all the time. Greed
for the people who can get it, and the envy
for the people who don't have.
You just don't have.
We have people in this country
who make so much exponentially more money
than you should be able to spend in a lifetime.
In a lifetime.
And there's a lot of people out there
and the tax plans that were introduced
where people were saying,
yeah, over the 10 billion mark or something.
And people that are making $100,000 a year
are complaining about this. You're never going to get there. You're
never going to get there. Your entire career of working, you'll never get to that one moment,
you know? And it's just, it's insane. People that are making like seriously,
1% of the amount, then they're just like, well, I want to make sure in case I get super rich,
man, if I'll raise my hand, if I'm making a hundred million and someone's like, I want to make sure in case I get super rich. Man, if I'll raise my hand, if I'm making a hundred million and someone's like, we're
taking 50 million.
I'm like, I get to keep 50 million dollars.
I know, right?
Holy shit.
Yeah.
Because I can't think of anything that I don't get.
You know what I mean?
50 million.
You get anything you ever want.
It's every good.
It's every service.
What the fuck?
What do you, what do you need?
That's, that's 51 million.
I don't understand it.
What do you need that's 51 million dollars? I don't understand it.
Money ceases to be a useful thing
when every good and service is within reach.
Yeah.
Once every conceivable, stupid, fucking dumbass whim
you possibly have can be immediately entertained,
what's another dollar on top of that?
But we like don't get it
because it's scorekeeping in America.
Yeah, right, yeah. It's fucking Pac-Man. You want to fucking get to the top of that. But we don't get it because it's scorekeeping in America. It's fucking
Pac-Man. You want to fucking get to the
top of the fucking leaderboard and be like,
ASS. That's what you want to do.
Well, just read this though.
I implore everybody to go read this
because the stories in this that
you hear really do
show you that there's
a lot of different Americas.
There's a lot of people who live
well under the margins in this country.
And these payments were lifesavers to them.
So we'd like to thank our patrons.
Of course, we'd like to thank all our patrons,
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Got a little bit of email this week.
Natalie sent in-
This is so great.
An amazing poster.
It's really good.
For Jim Baker, a Jim Baker wanted poster.
We're going to put it on this week's show notes.
Natalie, this is amazing.
It's so good.
It's really good.
It's very good.
We got a message. It's so good. It's really good. It's very good. We got a message.
This is from Mickey
and Mickey says,
just so you know,
I made,
sort of made this thing
and there's a thing here
that they made
that is from a show
that they might have cut a little.
So we're going to,
we're going to play it for you now.
Oh boy.
That's hard.
Oh.
Yes.
Oh.
That's the. Praise God. Wow. The angel. Here's hard to... Oh. Yes. Oh. That's crazy, Scott.
Wow.
The angel.
Here's an angel of fire.
There's such an anointing here today.
Wow.
That's wild.
I mean, Sue, when you sang,
He Touched Me,
I knew people are going to be touched.
A miracle took place.
Yes.
The restoration, yes.
Oh, that lady is so crazy.
That lady is just so... She's just so, everything, she does that so much.
So much.
It'd be so easy to create something to, you know, mock her that way.
I mean, and there's so many, there's so many things that are connected to biblical readings and things that are just innuendo.
Just so much.
The whole like,
I'm going to get an angel of fire.
It's like a little penicillin
will clear that up for you.
You don't have to live with that, Jim.
You know, he touched you.
You know, like there's all this stuff
where you just, okay,
he came into me.
Get down on your knees for Jesus.
You know, all right.
Did he come into you?
Like, wow, did he ask first?
He had a tap on the shoulder.
Did he ask you if you wanted the gook before him?
We got a message.
This is from Mary.
And Mary says, basically, they live in Utah,
a small town in Utah.
We're talking about wearing masks.
Rurally, I said, no one.
Now the mandate's over.
Nobody's wearing masks anymore.
And that's common everywhere.
Even in places out here
where once they took the mask mandate down,
I noticed that I was one of the few people
who was still wearing a mask in a store.
I don't have to. I'm vaccinated
and I don't feel like I need to.
But I wear one because
I don't want the people who feel
like they should wear one to feel weird.
Yeah, sort of a solidarity.
There's a level of solidarity to it.
Yeah, absolutely.
I don't need to wear one. Right, you feel
comfortable. I feel comfortable and I don't have
vulnerable people at home.
Right. So it's just my wife and I were both
vaccinated. So I don't have vulnerable
people that are near me that would get
Yeah, I got little kids. So I'm still
masking up. Of course you should.
We got a message from Matt
number one and he says,
do you guys have Cadbury picnic bars?
They are probably the best chocolate bar in the world.
If you cannot get them, let me know.
Give me your address and I'll send you some.
So Matt, I'm going to look on Amazon
because it turns out Amazon,
you can buy other candies from other countries pretty easily.
Oh, really?
So I'm going to look for these
and I'll see if I can have them for next week.
And we'll try them on the stream next Thursday. But I'll
look for Cadbury picnic bars. We tried
on the stream this week, if you catch it, we tried a
Cadbury Neapolitan
bar. Horrible. Shame on you, Hayden,
for sending that. And then we also tried
ketchup chips from Canada. Jay?
Damn you, Jay. Those are the worst.
Jay hit some home runs, but he had
some fucking real stinkers. Jay hit some home runs because there was a lot
of awesome goodness in that box he sent
us, but these ketchup, these are the
last thing. Seriously. They are so terrible.
So bad. Those ketchup chips are the worst. Very hard
to describe how bad they are. We are going to get a lot of messages
from Canadians, though, telling us how wrong we are about ketchup
chips because evidently that's what mom used to make or
whatever. Yeah, it's fine. They'll be polite emails. Yeah,
they'll be polite.
No one's going to swear.
We got a message from Leon.
He sent an image
of a good way
to do birth control
in my opinion.
Very good way
to do birth control.
So we're going to post it
on this week's show notes.
I don't know where that is.
I don't know what city that is,
but it's a great image.
So we're back in the studio.
That's going to wrap it up
for this week.
We want to thank everybody
for sticking with us
during the pandemic.
Shows I think will be a little different. We think this show is just different when we were together. It is. We just think it's different. It it up for this week. We want to thank everybody for sticking with us during the pandemic. Shows, I think, will be a little different.
We think this show is just different when we were together.
It is.
We just think it's different.
It's different for us, at least.
It's different for me.
I mean, maybe you don't know this notice.
Maybe you don't hear the sound.
Maybe you don't feel like it's different.
But for Tom and I, it's very different.
It's so much different.
It's very different.
Yeah.
And it's better.
Yes.
So we're happy that we're back in studio.
And come catch the stream next week.
We'll be in studio together.
And it's a lot of fun.
So the streams are
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