Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 585: Illegalize Jesus Christ
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And Cecil, I've noticed something
since the turnover in the administration.
Okay.
You know what I've noticed?
What's that?
Is that typically I would come in
and I would have,
like I would do the intro
and I'd be like,
can you believe this last?
Yeah.
And the last few weeks I come in
and I'm like,
well, I guess we should talk about the stories.
Yeah.
You know? Yeah. Because nobody tweeted'm like, well, I guess we should talk about the stories. Yeah. You know?
Yeah.
Because nobody tweeted out like kill the Jews or anything.
Or something like that.
Right.
Like I'm exaggerating,
but like.
Angie Jackson did nothing wrong.
There isn't like the trail of tears was a water park.
Like what the fuck.
Yeah.
There's not a new fresh hell.
Right.
Every week.
Every 15 minutes.
You know,
like I,
I do have to contrast that,
that if nothing else,
we get a lack of fresh hells.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Although we're going to talk about it later,
but there's like a stalling technique that the Republicans are doing that
essentially is stalling everything.
And they're good.
That's what we knew they were going to do anyway,
but we might not get a lot of progress don't get anything done yeah but it's
sort of like it's sort of like if if if you're just getting beaten every day and it's like well
i'd like to fall in love but i'd settle for not getting yeah i'd like to you know right no i get
it it's like i get it on the continuum. I'd like to like,
I want to hold hands again on a tandem bike.
Right?
Like that's the fucking dream.
Sure.
But maybe if we stop the beatings,
like I'm so traumatized after 2020 and 2019 and 2018 and 17 and 16.
And I feel like,
like,
like I'm just like,
I'm like,
please,
sir.
I just, it's a whole second half of the'm just like, I'm like, please, sir. I just.
It's the whole second half
of the teens.
Right.
We're just really not great.
They were really not great.
It turns out
it was not so good.
And then
the 2020
was genuinely
the biggest shit show
of forever.
But yeah,
it's been,
it's been interesting
to see
the problems
that we have
clearly in our government that 100% favor conservatives, right?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Our government is literally made to be a conservative government.
It is based to be a conservative government because of the filibuster.
And it's just meant to be static.
It's meant to never change.
And it's been worse and worse and worse and worse since we you know, since we haven't had anything bipartisan in a decade.
You know what I mean?
Oh, God.
More than that, two decades.
You know, you want to just jump to that story?
Yeah, for sure.
Why don't you just jump to that story?
Because that really is fucking distressing.
This story comes from truthout.org, but it's also fucking everywhere.
Mitch McConnell says bipartisanship is over.
Believe him.
So in this story, there's footage.
There's like leaked audio and video footage.
There's footage where-
Roy Chip Roy?
What the fuck kind of name?
Hold on a second.
I had to look over the story to remember the representative
because it's not a representative I was familiar with.
And then I looked over, guys,
and the guy's name is Representative Chip Roy.
And I want to say this real quick.
Shame on you for voting for a guy named Chip.
Chip Roy.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
The guy's name is a grown man called Chip.
It'd be like voting for Skippy.
Like, you just don't.
Chip and Skippy, those are people you don't vote for.
Get the fuck.
That's not a serious person's name.
That's a chipmunk's name.
He's got a friend named Dale.
Dale's got a red nose.
They have hijinks.
That's not a serious person's name.
It really isn't.
Anyway, he's a Republican congressman from Texas.
Big fucking surprise.
He's caught on a hidden camera,
basically saying, quote,
honestly, right now for the next 18 months,
our job is to slow all of that down
until we get to December of 2022
and then get in there and lead.
I actually say, thank the Lord, 18 months of chaos and the inability to get stuff done.
That's what we want.
Yeah.
Do you remember when they said the same thing out loud about Obama?
It wasn't even on hidden video.
They're just like, yeah, we're just going to stop.
We're going to cock block everything that fucking guy wants to do.
And whatever, whenever the other side gets in, they do their very best to try to stop we're going to cock block everything that fucking guy wants to do and whatever whenever the other side gets in they do their very best to try to stop it and it's and it's it's the problem is
is that we're the the bills that are coming forth are are widely recognized as things the american
people want they're so popular so many of these are super popular.
And so I know someone on the other side
could look at me and say,
well, the Democrats do it too.
And it's like, yeah, well,
we don't want to like shoot gay people in the face
or whatever they want to pass as a law, right?
The stuff that they want to pass as a law
is always social stuff.
They always want to limit our social ability constantly,
but they never want to do anything
to help the American people.
But when they do,
the Democrats are right there to say,
yeah, let's do it.
Yeah, let's do it.
They did.
They threw a stimulus out
when Donald Trump was in there.
Democrats voted for it.
Democrats voted for it.
It wasn't a bipartisan bill.
It wasn't one of these things
where people are like,
well, we're not going to do it.
I'm sure there were some,
but it went through.
It went through because the Democrats,
the Democrats went after it.
The same thing-
Unlike the stimulus bill that Biden passed,
which is party line only.
And not a single Republican voted for it.
You have to look at that and say,
are they in the best interest of the people in general?
And the answer is absolutely no.
They're not,
they're doing what their tiny constituency
wants them to do.
And that's it.
They're not doing what the American people want broadly.
Yeah, and that's the thing that makes me nuts
is that we are being cock-blocked and ruled
by the minority.
Yeah.
By a minority based on fucking maps.
Yeah.
Like, we are a nation ruled by cartographers.
And like bad cartography.
Look at Dan Crenshaw's map around,
and it's literally a circle around the city
that he works for.
It's none of the inner city.
It's none of the city itself.
And there's so many Republicans around this country
where when you get into densely populated areas,
those are people who are going to vote Democrat.
They will take the ring around the outside
and say they're from places like Houston,
say they're from places like Chicago. And they're not. And they're not. They're from an affluent suburb that happens to ring the city.
And that happens all the time. Yeah. We are a nation ruled by a minority. When you look at the
policy proposals that are floated time and time again, look at the last several elections.
And you don't even have to go just the Trump elections.
Go all the way back to Baby Bush.
Yeah.
The majority,
the American majority,
most people that wake up
every day in America as citizens,
they don't want Republican ideas.
They've rejected.
The problem is they live in
these gerrymandered areas.
We allow gerrymandering.
That's fucking protected by SCOTUS.
I am fucking baffled how anybody can look anybody else in the eye and say,
that is what we meant by democracy.
That is what we meant by all men are created equal.
Because when you purposely draw battle lines and redistricting lines
in this insanely hyper-partisan way for
this zero-sum political game that we've created, we are no longer paying attention to what people
want, and we are emphasizing the vote. The vote of somebody in Wyoming counts more than the vote
of somebody in California. It just does. It's a more valuable vote. The vote of some asshole in Pennsylvania,
sorry,
the vote of some guy in Pennsylvania
versus the vote of me
here in the suburbs around Chicago.
Your vote matters more.
We are not,
we are not living up to that ideal of democracy
and we're doing it intentionally.
Yeah.
Because the right has seeded the idea of democracy.
They don't want democracy.
What they want is power for the right.
One of the ways in which they're doing this
is through wedge issues.
So they have these wedge issues
and the two main ones that they use
are abortion and gun control.
Yep, yep, yep.
And we're going to talk about a story later on
where we can see how those wedge issues
when sort of fully demonized,
how they play out.
And it plays out in the sense that people are
literally creating
cultish terrorist
organizations.
The gun thing, we have been
living in the same America now.
The Brady Bill expired.
I don't even remember when.
You can just buy any guns you want.
Most places, there's very few.
And whenever there's a stipulation or some sort of regulation on a gun, like in Chicago, they took that thing out.
They're like, no, it's gone.
We can't even decide that we should have universal background checks.
Universal background checks are incredibly popular.
If you poll, how do you all feel about universal background checks?
Incredibly popular.
It's actually one of the most popular
political hot topic issues you can poll.
And we can't get that accomplished
because Congress's ability
to accomplish the will of the people
is absolutely crushed,
absolutely crushed by the Republicans.
And I do appreciate,
and I want to make sure I say it,
I do appreciate a system
that has some
brakes on the machine.
Sure.
Right?
I think that it makes sense to have a system that is not a fucking runaway train, whatever
the people want, the people get.
You know, there needs to be some tension built into the system and some brakes built into
the system.
The problem is that the brakes in this case don't slow the wheels of progress.
They halt them. Freeze them of progress they halt them freeze
them they absolutely halt them yeah yeah and we the the filibuster right now that is that is in
place um that they're that the democrats probably will not remove um is this this it's not even a
real filibuster it's it's a threat of a filibuster it's not a re it's not that it's not mr smith goes
to washington and reads 50 pages of the,
of the phone book all night long and falls asleep on his feet.
And the kids cheer.
Cause he saved a fucking school or whatever.
It's 100%.
Don't do it.
Or I will filibuster.
It's that's all.
And that's the end of the story.
Dust off your hands.
What I would like to see is at least have the,
have the guts and the fortitude to do it.
Make them do it.
So instead of what we have now, which is just a filibuster in threat only,
have a filibuster in action.
Be like, okay, you want a filibuster?
Great.
We're going to do a filibuster.
Get out there, Mitch.
Stand in your fucking Dr. Scholl's for eight hours out there.
Let's see your legs swell up because you're fucking a million years old.
There's no way that man
can stand for that long.
His whole body would turn black.
There's no way.
His hands turn black
just standing at the foot.
He would turn the floor black
around him.
But there's no way
he would be able to do it.
And the filibuster
essentially stymies
any kind of debate.
So what they're basically saying
is you can't even debate this on the floor
because we will done filibuster.
And I just say,
put up or shut up.
That's awesome.
Great.
You're going to filibuster?
Cool.
We're going to bring this bill.
Let's see what happens.
What do you think Cecil
about just getting rid of the filibuster?
The Democrats just go nuclear option,
blow that fucking thing up.
It's tough because the way this,
the new things have been redistricted
and you know,
now we know that that's going to stand up in court.
And we know that there's plenty of new laws
in the country that are restricting voting.
That means that the House and Senate are in danger,
in big danger.
The Senate, not so much,
because those are part of those.
I mean, it's a state vote.
So it's, but it's not as much as the gerrymandering
because that's like blatant, right?
The House is blatant.
But it's still bad
because you have people who can't vote in these things
that might not be able to.
Yeah, the voting restrictions are horrible, right?
That hurts the Senate.
So it's hurt by both.
If you take it away
and then you have all three in there,
they could start ramming things.
Yeah, they'll run a train on you.
They can run a train on you.
And it can be really, really terrible.
Now, the good thing when it comes to that
is what you have on our side, which are the people who are now sitting back and
saying told you so biden was terrible told you so biden was terrible told you so because he's not
getting anything done because people don't understand that he can't it's first off it's
not on him it's on congress and he they can't get anything done because 50 is 50 plus one is only
good enough to pass it not good enough to bring it to the floor.
And it's,
that's not enough.
It's amazing that they can't even get debate to create congressional.
They can't even start it.
To answer your question.
I'm afraid.
I'm afraid that that's,
that there's going to be some sort of,
but,
but to finish though,
it's,
it's the idea that these people are like,
he can't get anything done.
This might be the one thing.
If they come in and just fucking hammer us
with terrible legislation in one term,
it could wake enough Americans up to say,
oh my God, they really aren't my party.
Yeah.
Because so far nothing's really happening.
So people that are okay and well off,
that might be okay.
But if they come in and really lay out
some really draconian shit that they want to do,
that could be really bad for America on the short term, but it might be better in the long term
because Trump didn't have any sweeping anything. I mean, sure, all those people that he wound up
letting die because of COVID, those people have long, all those, but there's not been any
legislation that has caused people some serious distress.
Right.
I think we got to blow that fucking thing right off the door.
We have a, right now and for a long time, we haven't had an effective, effectual government.
Yeah.
And I'm not sure we get past that.
And I sort of feel like, yeah, all right, maybe I feel this way because my guys are
in charge right now.
But if you blew the fucking doors off that thing and the Democrats are in charge for their 18 months, they could bring their big voting rights legislation or federal voting rights legislation to bear.
And that would trump the fucking state's voting rights restrictions.
Yeah.
So you could knock that off.
You could knock that off out of the plate.
Now, you still have the gerrymandering problem.
That's its own thing.
But I think if you were to take that,
if you blow the fucking filibuster out the door,
you pass the voting rights thing,
you pass the big infrastructure bill,
all of a sudden in 18 months,
people are having things like childcare credits
and pre-K schooling and, you know, infrastructure
money is flowing and people have jobs and, you know, they can fucking vote. Man, I think the
Republicans are done. And that's what America's asked for. Like, if you pull it, what do you
fuckers want? Like, that's what you guys want. Yeah. So I kind of feel like you have maybe one
chance because the other the other thing to remember is like, at any time the Republicans could gain control of the house and Senate,
they could blow up the filibuster. Sure. And then they could pass all their shit. Yeah.
And they've sort of like pinky promise, gentlemen swore, whatever, that they're not going to do it,
but who trusts a Republican? Yeah. I'd rather have an effective government that makes mistakes
that we can roll back if that's the will of the people than to have this constant stalling.
The stalling is like, to me, it feels crushing.
It feels devastating to have problems with solutions and then just look at them like they're on your fucking vision board.
You'll never do anything.
You just look at it and wait and wait and wait.
And we are stuck in a rut.
And you're right.
The only way forward,
the only way through real progress
is blow up the filibuster.
But that could also mean one step forward,
five steps back.
Yeah.
And I know, and I want to recognize,
easy for me to say on the risk side,
because at the end of the day,
those risks won't impact me as deeply as they will many other people.
So I want to throw that
out there for the audience.
Like,
I know that maybe
that position is
something I need
to reconsider.
It's very privileged.
It's a privileged position.
It is.
But I think that
most of the conversations
that we have are that way.
Right.
Wow.
Heaven's nice.
Y'all got a soda
water fountain.
Yo, God.
What it do?
You love me, right?
Yeah.
Then why you ain't give me superpowers
like you gave Jesus?
What are you talking about?
Jesus out here walking on water
while I'm just floating in it.
I didn't know walking on it was an option.
Is that so?
Yeah, then he died and came back.
Let me go back real quick.
Hold on, go back to what Jesus did.
He was like multiplying bread.
He had like four or five pieces.
Oh, he did the bread and fish thing, huh?
Yeah.
Jesus! Yes, Dad? So you on earth showing off? i was um i was helping people according to jeff you were showing
off super power yeah he stopped three storms hey hey shut up oh my fault my fault sister it comes
from right wing watch lauren witsky uh right wing activist the Equality Act will illegalize
Jesus Christ.
Illegalize.
She looks like the lady who was
the anti-vax lady.
Jenny McCarthy a little bit, doesn't she?
She does kind of have a Jenny McCarthy look.
I guess it's the Karen look.
It's 100% the Karen look.
But does she look weirdly sepia
too? Like she's recording from a ghost town or something?
Yeah, this definitely looks like it's from the past,
but that's where all her beliefs are.
So that makes sense.
You guys, this video is like,
if you go to our website and check out this video,
at least the still from it.
The still, looks crazy.
All the stuff in the background is regular color.
Yeah, she's definitely a rose color.
But she is sepia. She's like rose gold. Right. So this is her on. Yeah, she's definitely a rose color. But she is sepia.
She's like rose gold.
Right.
So this is her on Alex Jones,
which is interesting
because we have not seen Alex Jones in a while.
Long time.
She, I believe this is the same woman.
Let me double check.
This is the same woman
who Milo Yiannopoulos said to her.
She had work to do.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
She had work to do
because her dog still barked at her
when she was still satanically gay.
She's still thinking about touching boobs.
Yeah, she was still 100% satanically gay.
So what we have now is her talking to Alex Jones.
So clearly that true news boost
really boosted her in the ratings in a way.
Oh, man.
Is it an up or down to go from true news to Alex Jones?
True news has a way worse set. Alex. Is it an up or down to go from True News to Alex Jones? True News has
a way worse set.
Alex Jones has
a baller set.
That's true.
Alex Jones has
a baller set.
That's true.
Wait till you see
this set on this clip.
It's outstanding.
Wait a minute.
Cecil,
Patreon goal?
We need an Alex Jones
level set.
I want like a big desk.
We can...
The biggest Patreon goal,
though,
is if we can get Alex Jones stuffed into the place. If we can get him... I want like a big desk. The biggest Patreon goal though is if we can get
Alex Jones stuffed into the place.
I want him stuffed like a fucking
old bear. Like an old bear with his hands up
like rah!
That would be amazing.
It is a dream. Now that I have my globe bar,
my next ridiculous
overly hyper-masculinized
thing that I want to have is a
giant stuffed polar bear. Nice. Like Mr. Burns has want to have is a giant stuffed polar bear.
Nice.
Like Mr. Burns hat in the back of his-
Big polar bear. And then you need leather-bound chairs. I think you need that.
100%.
100% leather-bound chairs.
I want a den that looks like a fucking joke.
Like that's what I want. I want a den. Human leather.
I want a den that looks like an English lord got stabbed in it. And you're trying to find
out who's outstanding. You got to have candlesticks everywhere. Oh, absolutely. I want a little bit
of blood. I want an old timey rifle. I want cantaloubras. There's a pipe wrench there for
no reason. Why do you have a pipe wrench? And imagine I'm living in the set of clue. Fuck off.
All right. So this lady's going to talk to Alex Jones. Here we go. There is a war on Christians.
They did this.
They targeted me, and they made an example out of me.
Okay, so what does it say on the table here?
It says...
I love this because these are...
This is classic Alex Jones.
Yeah.
It is internet printouts.
Internet printouts.
Internet printouts.
Internet printouts from Breitbart.
This is from Breitbart.
Breitbart.
Yep.
Financial blacklisting.
Wells Fargo shuts down GOP Senate candidate
Lauren Witsky's bank account.
And you know it's true
because you can see the staple at a 45 degree angle
in the upper left-hand corner.
Yeah.
And that's journalism, Cecil.
That is journalism.
And then above it, I can only see part of it.
Witsky, I will be pursuing legal action against Wells Fargo.
We're fighting back.
And then something, Wells Fargo shuts down Trump-supporting candidates.
Something, leaving her homeless with no money.
Holy shit.
Hey, you know, that's not how banking works.
Banks don't just shut you down and take your money.
They may say, hey, we are choosing to close out your account,
but they don't close your account and then steal the money that you have.
Because I'm an outspoken Christian who vocally opposes the Equality Act.
Listen, Alex, I don't know if you know.
That's why no preachers have bank accounts.
I'm sure fucking Joel Osteen doesn't have a bank account.
I'm sure Creflo Dollar, when he bought his fucking gold-plated
helijet or whatever,
he had to go look under his mattress.
So much about it, but they're about to,
they're trying to illegalize Jesus Christ.
Illegalize Jesus Christ.
Well, the thing is,
I guess if Jesus Christ were
during the Trump administration trying to file
for asylum, then they would be
illegalizing him. Especially if he was helping people, they would definitely try to file for asylum. Sure. That they would be illegalizing him.
Especially if he was
helping people.
Right.
They would definitely
try to legalize him.
If he told people
to calm down
at the Capitol
on the 6th,
they'd have fucking
crucified him right there.
You know,
the thing is like,
Jesus Christ came from
one of those
shithole countries,
didn't he?
He did.
Absolutely.
It's like everything
but like Norway and England.
I know.
There's only like
two non-shithole countries. And the scripture and categorized. Absolutely. It's like everything but like Norway and England. I know. There's only like two non-shithole countries.
And the scripture and categorized.
Absolutely.
Just like in Europe and Canada where they're arresting pastors.
Tell folks about it.
I love it.
Hey, tell people about what you were saying.
The thing you were saying, keep saying it.
He just interrupts her.
Just send it over.
What a terrible interviewer.
Yeah, so I'm here making my,
Chase, make your point.
Are you going to say your thing?
I was saying,
say your thing.
What?
She's just frozen
because she knows she made a bad decision
being on here.
Her eyes are like saucers.
Her face is 100% I made a huge mistake.
All I can see, Cecil, all I can see is how much i want that desk oh my god and his fucking big giant screen behind him i know it's just a green screen that they pretend that they cut the things
in i know it's just a green screen but it looks awesome it looks awesome i want that it looks
awesome they did a great job also his info his InfoWars thing is hilarious.
It's like the dance macabre.
Look at his info.
You guys have to see this InfoWars desk.
He's got the dance.
It's a video game.
It's like the dance macabre with Lion-O in the middle of it, cutting people down.
Look at all his internet printouts.
I know.
He's surrounded.
He's surrounded like a semicircle with internet printouts.
There's literally a dozen
and a half of them. Just, here's some stuff I printed out. Like an old man, I printed the
internet and then I read it. It's like coming home and your mom has printed Facebook, her Facebook
post on you, pin it on your door. Everything's a newspaper. If you print the news, you read online.
It's awesome. Yeah, absolutely absolutely so what it will do is
it will classify scripture uh belief in traditional marriage uh as hate speech if an abortionist
chooses not to wants to make the decision to abortionist an abortionist well and i think
what she says if an abortionist chooses not to perform an abortion, then you're a lousy abortionist.
Is that what they said?
Hold on a second.
If you're,
I got it.
Hold on,
hold on,
hold on.
Uh,
belief in traditional marriage,
uh,
as hate speech.
If an abortionist chooses not to,
wants to make the decision to not,
uh,
perform an abortion.
If I go to the abortionist and then I don't get an abortion,
zero stars,
abortionist,
zero stars. abortionist. Zero stars.
I love that word.
I came here for a fucking abortion, goddammit.
Yeah, no kidding, right?
Where's my abortionist?
They call him doctors.
But I like that they changed the terminology, right?
So instead of saying doctor,
because that's a respected position in society, right?
So instead we'll change it.
That'd be like calling like, oh, the tonsillectom tons of lectomists what no oh the pill prescriber what oh the the palpator that abortionist or that doctor
or that nurse that chooses to um take the bib wait is one of those a title? Because you could be an abortionist. Can I get a degree in abortionist?
Yeah, I think in this world, it's an abortionist or a doctor or a nurse.
So I didn't know nurses could perform abortions.
Maybe they can.
I didn't know that.
I thought that was a doctoring thing.
I thought it was a doctoring thing too.
Yeah.
I'm pretty confident in that.
I guess I could be wrong.
It could be maybe nurse practitioners, but like,
then there's like the third category.
I just went to school for the abortions.
You know what?
I skip sees the rest of it.
I just do the abortions.
That's it.
They go to medical school and they've got a potato gun.
They shooting those babies right out of there.
They graduate. They have to
turn the coat hanger on their
thing over to the other side of their hat.
On the side of the hat. There you go.
I graduated from abortion
at school. They come up and you
take your diploma and you just suck it up with a
vacuum cleaner. It just goes right in there.
It's like one of those teller things.
Actually, Dyson has a great
school of abortion.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not as good
as the Flobby school
because that one cleans
and it's a whole process.
It is, yeah.
It's way better.
...proach and change their lives.
Children who struggle
with gender identity.
Children who struggle
with abortionism.
Now it's going to make
them illegal for them
to pursue therapy
to change their mind. And this is, I mean, it's... Literally nothing is going to make them illegal for them to pursue therapy to change their mind.
And this is, I mean, it's-
Literally nothing is going to make anybody not be able to go to therapy if they want to go to therapy.
You know, maybe what she's alluding to though is that damaging stuff.
Like conversion therapy?
Conversion therapy.
But I thought conversion therapy was mostly to pray the gay away, not for gender identity issues. Yeah, but I mean,
I would imagine that they're going to say like,
that because they're banning this practice of conversion therapy,
which has been proven to be a really damaging thing.
Yeah, right. Horrible.
That they're going to say just,
they're going to take off that conversion part,
call it therapy and say it
and basically use it for a blanket.
So it would be gender identity,
anything LGBTQ.
It's just complete.
Not,
you can go to the fucking,
anybody can go get therapy
if they want to go get therapy.
Therapy is problematic
when somebody makes you go to therapy.
Oh yeah.
Like Cecil.
Or they make you do a thing,
right?
They make you do something.
If you said like,
Tom,
you have to go to therapy.
And I was like,
uh,
I don't really want to go.
And then you like forced me to go or I lose my job or forced me to go or like, Tom, you have to go to therapy. And I was like, uh, I don't really want to go. And then you like forced me to go.
I lose my job or forced me to go.
We're like,
right.
You kick me out of like business or like that.
That's a fucking problem.
Right.
And then you're like,
and you have to go see my guy.
Yeah.
And like,
he's going to,
and he's not qualified.
He's a priest.
Yeah.
There's no,
no one is seeking to illegalize going to therapy,
but I do feel like they're they're they're hinging
on that conversion therapy thing which has been in several states outlawed yeah and it's outlawed
because it's damaging to people therapy would have many answers this has one answer yeah and
that's the difference right which makes it not therapy right yeah yeah right yeah the only way
out of this is my way out of this exactly well then that's not great okay absolutely it's basically the cult trying to make it illegal to
leave the cult yes exactly um and even just quoting scripture will be classified as hate speech
um is what it is going to do it is going to make christianity a crime on a federal level
what law is this? Name the law.
Right.
Syria, they always, people like this always say, this is really, and you want to, every
time I see this nonsense online, I'm like, just send me a link to the actual legislation.
Sure.
Set what, just tell me.
Tell me what it is.
I'll look it up myself.
Tell me what it is.
Tell me the actual bill.
Sure.
That I can look up.
There's nobody floating this bill.
There's never anything behind any of
this. It's all just, all it is is scare mongering. It's a moral panic. That's all it is. Yeah.
Cannot allow this to go any further. We're going to lose everything. If we give our enemy an inch,
he's going to take the whole thing. Caliente, that's all I'm saying.
You've seen Alex, you know, you've watched as this slow fade has happened and we have allowed
it to happen. And it's gotten to the point now where we're all going to end up in Kamala's gulags unless we all stand up together. Kamala's gulags. Okay. First
off it's Kamala. Okay. So let's get that out of the way. These motherfuckers struggle so hard with
that name. She's gone out of her way to educate people. Right. And now it's now they're just like,
like actually not do it. Like they're going out of the way to mispronounce it, to be rude.
Yeah, it's an intentionally, they're intentionally exoticizing her name in order to otherize her, right?
And the amount of like fear mongering that they are trying to do around our vice president is not sticking.
Like for the most part, you know, oh, she's a Jezebel. Yeah, it doesn't stick. None of it not sticking. Like for the most part, you know,
oh,
she's a Jezebel.
Yeah.
It doesn't stick.
None of it's sticking.
Yeah.
I don't get a sense that any of this shit is sticking.
It just feels like trying to be purposefully hurtful.
It is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that's,
that's it.
But I don't,
I don't feel like I'm with you.
I don't feel like it's one of those stuff.
Cause I mean,
you want to see something that stick,
the birth certificate thing stuck.
And like,
like the slander, the Hillary slander.
Yeah.
Right?
That shit stuck.
Right?
And it had legs and it really, like the hatred around Hillary, I mean, it galvanized people.
We're all going to end up in Kamala's gulags unless we all stand up together and fight back as Christians.
If only there was like 70% of us.
I know.
And if only we controlled every hall of institutional power.
But that's loving her by calling her a coward.
Really?
You can shut the fuck up because they're making the best decision that they can in their situation
and you're trying to make them feel bad about it.
So go off, Jennifer.
Is that the validation you want from Sky Daddy?
Calling people a coward?
This story you referenced earlier comes from The Guardian.
It shakes you to your core.
The anti-abortion extremists gaining ground on the right.
Operation Save America opposes COVID vaccination, women in power, and same-sex marriages.
And allies are making inroads among legislators.
So the anti-abortion movement is not just the anti-abortion movement, because
of course it's not. Because it's not really its own grass-fed, grassroots effort. It is part of
a larger, well-funded effort that is organized around the wedge issues that you mentioned before.
And as a direct result of exactly the kind of people
that you're fucking organizing,
it's also all this other shit.
And this other shit is whatever the right needs it to be.
Yeah, yeah.
Whatever excites,
whatever is the fucking cause du jour
in the culture crisis
that the right distracts everybody with
rather than providing solutions
to the American people for our problems.
That's what it is.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's a great, easy group to mobilize.
And the way you mobilize them
and the way you make sure
that they stick with this issue constantly
is that you use language
that demonizes the people who oppose this.
So anybody who's on the other side of the fence
is demonized.
And then you use sort of vicious language to talk about them.
And what it does is it dehumanizes them to the other side.
But that side effect is that these people start to get farther and farther right.
Yep.
And they become extremists, right?
So it's not just that they're...
Because you've done all the programming on these
people. They've let you program them to believe horrible things about these other people.
It's no longer this conversation where we can disagree on politics. There's no disagreeing
on politics anymore because the politics have to do with wedge issues. We're saying things like,
because the politics have to do with wedge issues.
We're saying things like, we should be pro-choice.
There's no reason to force women to choose to have a child if they don't want to have a child.
And to other people, that is literally the most evil thing
you could possibly say in the world.
So there's not even a chance.
You can't even have.
No.
You know, there's never going to be a bipartisan anti or abortion bill, right?
There'll never be, that'll never happen.
No, it can't happen.
It can't happen.
Because the way the language is used
just basically poisons that well.
There's never a chance for you to have a conversation
about this in any meaningful way with any,
I would be-
How could you?
I would be very, very interested to hear if anyone has ever had a conversation about this
sort of thing,
like that with someone who believes the exact opposite of them.
And then they had some sort of back and forth that was,
that had some sort of,
that was mutually productive.
That was fruitful.
Yeah.
Cause I can't imagine.
I literally cannot imagine talking to someone with an opposing
view and having anything come out.
But because they
dishonestly framed the abortion issue
as killing a baby,
right? And as soon as
you say, wow, Tom thinks we should
kill babies,
and you're like, fuck, Tom is
evil. And the thing is,
I would agree with that, right?
If I thought it was an action, if you had a position where you're like, yeah, my political party believes we should kill six-month-old babies.
Just whenever you want to, you could just, you know.
You get a mulligan.
Chuck them in a river.
Get a mulligan.
I want a new one.
Whatever.
Yeah, mulligan time.
Just fine.
We'll just chuck them in a volcano.
I would be like, holy fuck, we don't have moral things in common.
Right.
Sure, sure.
But they ignore the reality, the complex moral reality and scientific realities of what a fetus is.
And the very obvious biological differences between a fetus, and they do it intentionally, right?
Sure.
That's what the heartbeat build is for.
The heartbeat has literally nothing at all
to do with personality.
With its development.
Right.
I mean, other than,
other than its physical development.
But we think of the heart as the center of emotion.
Sure.
And it's not.
It's a fucking pump.
It's a water pump.
It's a muscle.
Right?
That's what it is.
So it's, yeah, it's a muscly water pump.
Yeah.
So, but we think of our hearts as something else.
And it's intense.
It's not like they said, as soon as the spleen is detected.
Sure.
Right?
It's intentional.
All these things are intentional and they're designed to dishonestly frame the conversation
to, to your point, to demonize the guys who are killing babies.
Sure.
And now, as soon as I see the other side
is people that kill babies
and they're also telling me to get a vaccine.
Yeah.
You're a baby killer.
The thing is like,
if my neighbor was in my front yard
murdering somebody
and then he was like,
I have some good life advice for you.
I'd be like,
I don't take life advice from murderers.
Sure.
And that would be good moral policy.
Yeah.
The problem is that
an abortion
is not killing a baby.
But when they dishonestly
frame it. You set the standard.
It's actually a straw man. It's a giant
straw man. And now there's
no bridge too far.
To your point about radicalization,
that's the thing that scares me is,
holy shit, there's no bridge too far
anymore. And they're doing the same thing right now
around the election.
They stole the election.
They stole the election.
Look at the rhetoric you hear about that election.
Look at what they say about it
and listen to how they call people criminals
and they use language that's insightful
and they do it purposefully.
And they do it because it incites the crowd.
It incites that group of people
and it makes them feel like they were ripped off
or they were stolen from.
And that motivates them through anger.
Yeah.
And so, but the problem that they didn't realize was,
is that that anger will eventually boil over.
Yep.
And it's not something that the right has never learned
because they're willing to, you know,
do all awful sorts of awful people,
awful things to everybody and they don't care.
And whenever anybody rises up,
they're immediately like,
wow, who would have expected that to happen?
Oh my God, it would have.
But in this case, they actually,
instead of just being oppressive,
they fed the lies.
Yeah.
They fed it.
And so you have a January 6th that happened
where people are just,
they're, I mean, they were viciously angry.
They were upset.
They wanted to, they wanted,
they wanted to hang Mike Pence.
Listen to them.
They said all those things out loud.
They said it all out loud.
And you're like, okay, well,
we know why you're here.
And they were, it wasn't just a small contingent of people, one or two people that were mad. It
was a bunch of people, bunch of people were upset. And listen, you know, another way you can know
that they're upset, look at how they talked to the police that day. You know, these are their,
this is the back, the blue guys. These are the guys who are wearing blue lives matter flags and
flying blue lives matter flags all over the place, constantly sort of
venerating the police all the time, constantly, oh, the police, the police, the police. But when
the police were there and they were the ones who were stopping them from doing stuff, listen to
how they speak to them. Their rhetoric was vicious. Yeah. Listen to how they speak. Vicious. They
called them traitors and pigs and everything else. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is,
is like, don't get me wrong. I'm not here to defend the police on this. It's not for me. No, but it's that switch. But it is a switch. It's a hypocrisy.
As we move deeper and just think about like the relationships you have in your life with people
that are like on the right versus like on the left. Like, do you think there's any real healing?
Do you think there's any bridging this? You know what I mean? Yeah. We're so divided. We're so divided.
And I struggle so much.
And I will raise my hand and say,
like, I struggle so much with the idea of
really feeling like morally connected to somebody
who's supported, you know, like Trump's immigration policies.
And, you know, some of the horrible,
like the death of 600,000 people from COVID.
And I look at that and I'm like,
I don't know how to bridge that. Yeah. I feel like I've interacted with people that I know
are Trump supporters since, you know, for the last several years. And I do it by trying to
100% never talk about the things that I think I would immediately be very upset about. So I try
to make sure that I talk about bullshit because if I don't,
I'm going to cause waves and make a problem.
Yeah.
And I don't want to make a problem.
So I just try to stay,
because it's not my family.
Yeah.
So I don't want to do that.
That limits the connection you can have with them.
Sure, absolutely.
I think like the ability to like really be open and connected.
How connected can you be to somebody
if you just talk about the weather all the time?
Yeah, not at all.
Not at all.
Yeah.
And I wonder, we talk a lot about healing this nation and healing that partisan divide.
But as long as conversations continue to be framed in these sort of dishonest ways,
where the other guys think that I support killing babies, for example.
Right.
Well, I don't want anything to do with somebody that would look at me.
Sure.
If somebody were to look at me and say like, look, man, I know something about your heart
and in your heart, you support killing actual babies.
I'm like, fuck you.
We don't need to talk.
Yeah.
Do we, does this continue to spread apart or do we, because I would have thought COVID
had an opportunity, I think, to bring us together.
After 9-11.
It really did.
It really did.
Under the right administration and with the right leadership,
COVID could have healed some of that.
It really could have.
I said, do you want to fight me?
Do you want to catch his hands?
Bitch, I'll catch you in the street.
Some with that beef. Bitch, I'll catch you in the street. Some with that beef.
Bitch, I'll beat your ass.
So this story comes from Business Insider.
Marjorie Taylor Greene compares Biden's vaccine push to Nazis
week after apologizing for comparing mask mandates to the Holocaust.
I mean, in her defense,
I think that she doesn't know that the Holocaust and Nazis were in the same war.
Oh, God, you're probably not wrong. They didn't cover that in her defense, I think that she doesn't know that the Holocaust and Nazis were in the same war. Oh, God.
You're probably not wrong.
They didn't cover that in her.
I think in her defense, she thinks they were World War I and World War II.
They were two different things.
I'll bet you.
I'll bet you.
She doesn't have no idea that they're connected.
Let me read you what she actually wrote, just so that we're not misquoting here, because it's, you know.
Biden pushing a vaccine that is not FDA approved shows COVID is a political tool used to control people.
People have a choice.
They don't need your medical brown shirts
showing up at their door ordering vaccinations.
You can't force people to be part of the human experiment.
That would be stupid.
Medical people wear blue shirts, not brown shirts.
It's stupid.
Look, I was just watching Scrubs the other day.
It's blue if it's medical.
It's green if it's surgical.
Oh, okay.
I didn't know.
I didn't know.
Brown is custodial?
I don't know.
Brown is the national park?
That's in the park range.
Brown is UPS.
So just a few weeks ago, she got in trouble for basically the same shit.
Same thing.
She's just too stupid to know what she's saying.
And there's a great quote from this article.
The American Jewish Congress released a statement
on Wednesday addressing Green's tweet,
saying that the Congresswoman, quote,
continues to prove that there is no limit
to her brutal trivialization of the Holocaust
for her own personal political power.
And I love this next sentence.
The Holocaust and Jewish suffering is not a prop
for her delusional views comparing efforts to save lives through vaccines with the most heinous, systematic, state-sponsored slaughter of millions of innocent victims.
Yep.
And I read that and I thought, man, how fucking true is that?
People use the Holocaust and Nazis and Hitler as a fucking prop.
All the time.
a fucking prop. All the time. And every fucking time you do that, that is
an insult to the people, some of whom
are still alive, who
suffered and died as a result of
that horrifying system of oppression
and genocide. Yeah. And to use
that shit as a prop for your fucking
straw man, literal
horrors?
It just, god damn, man. But then
it's insult to injury because now it's anti-vax.
Right? Right. So it's not to injury because now it's anti-vax, right? Right.
So it's not only a shitty thing to do just in general,
but it's a shitty thing to do
while you're trying to dissuade people
from getting a vaccine.
Yeah.
Man, it's double plus extra worse.
And it is-
Because it's not just a rhetorical tool.
It's crazy to me that we're still at this point
where there's so many anti-vaxxers in this country.
So many.
Because I remember when we started this show years ago,
they were a fringe group.
They weren't very large.
We didn't have measles for many years
because many people still vaccinated their kids.
Yep.
I mean, I knew a couple of anti-vaxxers, right?
I knew a couple that were on the fringe of my life
for a while.
And, you know, there were,
even for a little while myself,
I even wondered because I had people I knew.
Yeah, same.
That I trusted that had said some things
that I was like, oh, maybe I should look into that.
And when I did, I was like, no, that's bullshit.
It's literally all bullshit.
There's nothing there.
And the only thing that anybody who was on the other side
could ever refer, retort to
is just character assassination of the people
that you got your information from, right?
Like that's the only thing.
Like if you went to Quack Watch, there was like,
oh, well, let me tell you about Quack Watch.
Let me tell you about that guy.
So it would be like ad hominem against the guy
instead of actually like- The many, many studies and everything that are cited right just
even the argument right um but i remember i remember for a little bit i was i was i actually
wondered about it because it was it was it was actually kind of popular but the moment i thought
about it for a second or read anything about it was just no that's stupid like it because none of
it makes any sense when you stop
to think about it. Right. Especially when you're talking about like how many people are getting it
and how many people are that are getting it on camera and how many people are getting it that
are, that were a first in line to get it. You know, if the doctors are the first in line to
get it and excited to get it, you should be thinking, yeah, you know, maybe this is okay.
You know, maybe this is something I should probably want to do myself. Look at, look at how many doctors were,
were, you know, chomping at the bit immediately to get this thing. Yeah. But it's that mistrust
of expertise. Yeah. You know, we've, this is, this is this horrifying culmination of all these
terrible things that we've sown over the last, however many years, maybe 10 years, 15 years.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, and I think the same thing, Cecil.
It's, you know, there was a hot moment, same thing, where my whole life I'd heard vaccines
were good.
Never even crossed my mind that vaccines were not a net medical and social positive.
I didn't understand that.
And then a handful of people in my life were like, no, they've got all this evil shit
in them and it corresponds with
these rates of autism and all this stuff.
And I was like, wait a minute, I've got to read about this.
And then I did and I was like, no, it doesn't
make any sense.
Yeah, it's not true.
But like, yeah, absolutely. I think when you
are presented with that information,
you gather the information, you gather
data around it and you look at it.
But we should be well past that shit.
Because ever since Wakefield and ever since the rise of that vaccine movement,
or the anti-vax movement, the pro-vaccine forces have been loud.
And they've been voluminous.
And they've done study after study and big studies,
studies with hundreds of thousands of participants.
We have historical data.
They've, you know, they have advertised and they've gone through great lengths to prove the efficacy and safety of these life-saving vaccines.
We're also at a place where two things that are, I think, really important are happening.
One, we have new technologies that could eradicate a host of diseases we've never had any treatment for or any opportunity to avoid.
And that's extraordinarily exciting.
But we're also at that same place where antibiotics are becoming less and less effective.
Yeah, that's true.
We have a choice to make.
We can either choose to avoid disease
or we can choose to die of disease.
And maybe this is more on my mind
because my wife got an antibiotic-resistant disease, right?
So a C. diff, you get it's an antibiotic-resistant,
like MRSA, it's in that category.
But I read and I look at this and I'm like,
we've been told for years that antibiotics are becoming less effective and that antibiotic
resistant diseases are becoming more and more of a problem. There are antibiotic resistant
forms of tuberculosis. You get it. And you've got consumption like it's the ye olde times, man.
We can choose to die of diseases that we had cures
for and the cures are waning. The efficacy of those antibiotics is waning. Or we can choose
to just not get sick at all. And to me, that's the easiest choice in the world.
Put every vaccine in my arm, man. Put them all in my arm. Fucking fill my bathtub with vaccines
and let me roll around naked like a pig in that stuff.
Like, I don't want to get sick.
And I don't want to get sick with stuff
that as time goes on,
we'll have less and less opportunities to cure.
You know, when penicillin was first introduced,
penicillin killed something like 95, 99%
of all the bacteria that we were,
you know, and that, that number, and I know that's not an exact number, but that number changes and
it gets less every time. Yeah. And it gets less every year. And now your doctors are like, I don't
want to, you know, give you back, I don't want to give you antibiotics for stuff. Why? Because
they're less effective. Yeah. So we're at a confluence point and we have a choice to make socially.
And if we don't choose vaccines,
we don't have another option to not get sick.
Yeah, I mean, isolation,
but we did that for a whole year.
That sucked.
How great was that, huh?
That was awesome, huh?
Yeah.
Super great.
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I'm running for president. I'm going to be a single issue candidate. When I become president,
I will make golf illegal. All golf courses will become public parks. All country clubs will become
low-income housing. We take all the water that we would have used to water the golf courses and we
drink it. Now we're like the best hydrated country on the planet. We all have gorgeous skin. And anyone caught golfing gets eaten.
Are you still here?
Just making a salad.
Nothing crazy, just a Caesar.
It's just going to put the rich on top.
So there's a whole host of stories coming out
in the last week about the Olympic Cecil.
This first one is from The Guardian.
Swimming caps for natural black hair
ruled out of Olympic games.
I did see this morning
that they are maybe going to reconsider that position.
Thank goodness, man.
Gosh.
There's also a story from blackenterprise.com.
Olympics banned black female athlete
for five years after having an abortion.
A story from CNN,
black women athletes are still being scrutinized
ahead of the Olympics despite their successes. And another story from ESPN, Namibia female runners banned
from Olympic 400 meters over high testosterone levels. Man, fuck the Olympics. The Olympics
have a racism problem and they have a women problem. For sure. And I haven't seen a single
fucking story where dudes are getting fucking kicked out of the goddamn Olympics. And I haven't seen a single fucking story where dudes are getting fucking kicked out of the goddamn Olympics.
And I haven't seen a single fucking story where white people are getting kicked out of the Olympics.
All it is is black people, women, black women.
Yeah.
Fuck the Olympics.
That is a racist organization.
You know, what's interesting is that
there's this fight now in our culture
to talk about hairstyles, black women's hairstyles, right? There's a common thing in our culture to talk about black women's hairstyles.
There's a common thing in our culture where people are trying
to normalize black women's hairstyles.
Because many people
in the business world traditionally would say
that's not a work hairstyle.
You're not allowed to work in that hairstyle.
That's not a work hairstyle.
That's a racist, shitty thing to do to somebody.
It's like your natural fucking hair.
People are like, that's not a work hairstyle.
It's like, I'm not a work person is what you're saying.
You're saying I'm not business attire.
Your culture renders you unacceptable for view.
For white view.
For white view.
Right.
And so there's a conversation being had now
about normalizing all hairstyles, right?
Normalizing them all.
And so we don't have to worry about this dumb thing
that sort of disqualifies black women from office space
because it essentially disqualifies them.
And that's leaked over into the Olympics, man.
Like these people won't, they won't allow,
there's a cap, a specific cap
that was made
by a company
to help black swimmers,
black women swimmers,
because the other cap
is made for wispy
white people hair.
It's made for hair
that falls flat
against your head
when it's wet.
But black women's hair
doesn't do that.
And so they need a cap that actually covers their
head so they can swim and have the same amount of resistance as the other people and have the
same chance of winning as everybody else. Because it's all, the Olympics is a game of millimeters,
man. It's all shave everything off of your body to get that fucking perfect aerodynamic thing.
Everything is just millimeters away
from the guy before you and the gal before you.
It's all it is.
And they're hamstringing these women
by making them wear these things
that don't cover all their hair
or to swim without anything on.
Or to force them to cut their hair.
Or to cut their hair.
To conform to white standards.
Exactly.
You have to be bald in order to do this.
And that's outrageous.
It's an outrageous thing to do.
But they're not doing it to anybody else, right?
It's only to them.
And I'm glad to hear that they might be pulling that back
or at least reviewing that ruling and try to change it.
But something else happened recently.
There was a woman who smoked pot.
Yeah.
Which again is perfectly legal in many places in this country.
They need to really start to think about this as a federal thing so that they
can just pull that out.
And that's not a thing anymore because if somebody is going to smoke some
marijuana,
it shouldn't be an issue,
especially if it's legal where they're at.
But even still Phelps did that. And that
guy's got so many fucking gold medals that Michael Phelps. Yeah, I remember that. Like there was a
video of him smoking bongs and shit. I forgot about that. Nobody gave a fuck. Yeah. That dude's
got more medals than anybody. I mean, he's got an insane amount of medals. So we let that happen.
What? It's not like Potts performance enhancing. Pot's not, it's not like a fucking sprinter.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, look, listen to Noah's show.
You think that enhances performance?
I love him.
But seriously, this is, this is, but again, there's, there's more of this too.
When we're talking about, we're talking about these, these women that just have high testosterone
and they're not allowed to compete in certain events because of it. That's fucking ridiculous. The Olympics is policing women's
bodies and deciding what bodies are the right kind of woman's body. The Olympics are policing
black bodies to make black bodies conform to white standards. Look. It's, look, you can't support the fucking Olympics.
Yeah.
You just can't do it.
It's a shitty,
it's always been shitty.
The thing is that the Olympics
have kind of always been
really shitty.
Sure.
And a lot of the sports
that,
even the sports that get chosen
versus other sports
that get chosen
to be Olympic sports,
it's always been
classist as fuck.
Yeah.
It's so fucking classist.
Now it's just openly
fucking anti-woman. Now it's misogynist
and racist. Right. Get the fuck out.
The thing is, guys, it's not exciting to watch anyway.
The Olympics is fucking boring.
It happens. Remember when it was cool
because it was every four years and you had to wait
like a really long time until there was another?
It's every two years there's an Olympics.
It doesn't even matter anymore.
You don't care. You don't watch
these sports all the rest of your life.
You don't watch them.
That's because you don't care about them.
They're the worst sports too.
They are.
But I will say this though.
And this is, this is again, you know, going back to these women, this is, this is what
some people, they literally, this is their job, man.
This is it.
This is what they train to do constantly.
And to, you know, I'm never going to be fucking interested
in a dash or a run or whatever.
I'm not going to be interested in a jump
or a vault or a hurdle
or a shot put or any of that stuff.
I'm never going to be interested in it.
But that being said,
there are people who,
this is their livelihood.
This is, they spend their entire-
It's their passion.
It's their livelihood.
They spend their whole life throwing that shot put as far as they can throw
that shot put. And so, you know, you're basically taking away their dreams because of your weird
thing that they have to conform to you. And, and there's another story in here too, that's just
horrible. Olympics banned black female athlete for five years after having an abortion. This poor
woman, you know, she had an abortion and they,
and they,
she said she had to sit.
She tried to appeal it.
She had to sit around with all these white guys,
older white guys trying to justify her position as a black woman getting an
abortion in front of all these guys.
And they were all just like,
well,
I've never been in that situation in my life.
So no,
fuck it.
No,
sorry.
She missed, she missed one drug test. She didn't touch. So no. Fuck it. No, sorry. She missed one drug test.
She didn't pop positive.
No, she just missed
the drug test.
She missed the drug test.
She had a scheduled drug test.
They showed up at her house.
She missed the fucking
call at her house.
She tried to reschedule it.
They're basically like,
fuck it.
No.
Yeah.
No.
She's recovering
from a fucking abortion.
Yeah.
The thing is like,
I think if it was
any other medical procedure, if it was any other medical procedure.
I think you're right.
If it was any other medical procedure.
I know that's conjecture, but like.
But it's specifically a woman procedure.
Yeah.
And you're just like, yeah, okay.
Of course.
Right.
And why is the review board all old white dudes?
Well, because of course it is.
Because of course it is.
Because of fucking course it is.
Because the Olympics shouldn't even be happening
in the middle of a pandemic.
Yeah.
How crazy.
That's the other thing that makes me nuts.
It is so wildly irresponsible to hold an Olympics
in the middle of a pandemic that in most of the world
is still absolutely raging.
They had to close some of it down this week.
Did you see that?
They closed up down the in-person stuff.
Right.
Because they're getting an outbreak in Japan. Why are we having it at all? Yeah. It's games. They had to close some of it down this week. Did you see that? They closed up down the in-person stuff.
Because they're getting an outbreak in Japan.
Why are we having it at all?
Yeah.
It's games.
Yeah.
Games.
Just say the word games.
Games.
When you say it out loud, maybe it's not that important.
Maybe it's a game.
Put that shit on pause in the middle of a pandemic.
If you play on your phone the game Plague Inc., one of the things that comes up is Olympics suspended because of global outbreak.
Game designers for a fucking phone game understood that you don't gather people from hundreds of nations together in the middle of a pandemic.
There is a blueprint model for this that last year the NBA did, which was brilliant.
They created the bubble,
what they called the bubble.
They picked several teams because they hadn't finished their year yet.
They picked several teams that were
in the top portion of their thing.
They were going to play those teams and figure out
who's going to go to the playoffs then.
Everybody there had to get COVID
tests and go into isolation
at Disney.
They sent them down to Disney and they put them up and they had to get COVID tests and go into isolation at Disney. And they put,
they sent them down to Disney
and they put them up
and they had to be isolated from everyone.
So they were isolated.
They couldn't go out.
If they went out,
they had to go on isolation protocol
on their own for 14 days.
They got tested constantly
and they had no breakouts.
They had no,
and they were able to play.
There's nobody in the stands.
Right.
But they were able to play games. But they were able to play. There's nobody in the stands. Right. But they were able to play games.
But they were able to play the games.
And those NBA games
were a lifesaver
to so many people
who were just looking
to fucking tune out
the news for the evening
and watch the fucking basketball game.
They were amazing.
And there's a blueprint out there
to make it so it's safe.
There's a blueprint right now.
And that could be used
for all people all over the world.
You have plenty of space to do it,
and then you just put up, like the NBA did,
put up Skype faces on the walls, people watching it.
You can have audience interactions.
It just happens to be Skype or whatever.
You can do it,
and I don't think anybody would have been upset by it.
I don't think anybody would have said,
oh, well, we can't do that.
But the problem is that everybody just wants to forget
that everything happened because it was a shitty year.
So everybody just wants to go back and be like, nope, nothing happened.
Let's just go back to normal.
Well, now they're locking Japan down again.
Yeah, well, I mean,
the thing is like with the Delta variant,
I mean, most countries have
very poor vaccination rates.
Most of the world
still has really poor vaccination rates.
Australia is locking Sydney down right now.
You know, Australia's vaccination rate
is like under 20%.
Yeah.
Huge parts of the world are totally
or mostly effectively unvaccinated.
We're going to hold the Olympics.
Yeah.
And then in the middle of holding the Olympics,
we're going to look at people who are saying,
I'm willing to take that fucking incredible risk
in order to do this thing that I'm passionate about.
And we're going to fucking judge their black female bodies and kick them the fuck out of the games because they're not the right kind of woman
or because they had an abortion or because they want to wear a fucking hair cap that actually
covers their fucking hair properly. It's fucking the erasure of women. It's the erasure of black
athletes. It's fucking ridiculous. It's outrageous. This doesn't count as an advertisement because we are
promoting our own stuff. So there.
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So this next week, Tom and I
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we're going to try to read this whole book
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And so we're going to start with this and then we're going to move on. Hopefully if this works well and people enjoy it,
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Of course, we'd like to thank all our patrons.
We'd like to thank our newest patrons,
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And we'd like to thank the people who upped their pledges,
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I'll tell you, I'd love to get Voush on our show,
but he's a pretty big streamer and a pretty big YouTuber.
So it'd be a hell of a coup if we could get him on our show. If you got a connection. streamer and a pretty big YouTuber. So it'd be a, it'd be a hell of a coup
if we could get him on our show.
If you got a connection.
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hook us up.
But I highly doubt
that we could get him on our show
just by saying,
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will you come on our show?
That's going to have a lot of play.
But thank you for the vote of confidence.
I'd love to talk to him though.
He seems like a really interesting guy.
We've got a bunch of email
we'd like to talk about. We got a message from Brian and Brian says,
he says, I love the show. And I want to just want to let you know, my son was born this past weekend,
five weeks premature. And we wanted to just say, wow, that's, that's a very difficult place to be.
We know this personally. Yeah. My, my little guy was about five. My second was about five weeks premature.
He was born 34 weeks.
So congratulations, Brian.
It's scary, but everything turned out all right for my guy.
I hope everything turns out all right for yours, guy or gal.
And certainly thank you so much for listening.
And it's stressful.
It's a stressful time.
So I hope that you have loved ones around you to support you.
They're little at that age.
They're little babies.
Yeah, Eamon came home.
He was four pounds.
They're little babies.
Those are little tiny babies.
I have a picture of bringing Eamon home,
and I laid him next to my watch.
Yeah.
And he's about the length of my watch.
Yeah, he wasn't even
a bag of sugar.
No.
He was that,
like not a bag of flour
at that point.
Yeah, I wanted to put him
in the car seat
to take him home.
I had to then pack
receiving blankets
around his body.
Gosh.
To fit him in a car seat
in a way that was
snug enough for me
to white knuckle
my way home
because he,
he's in there
because he can't move, he's in there.
Cause he can't move.
That's the,
that's the other thing.
Gravity and a lack of his own personal. Yeah.
They don't make stuff for babies that day.
No,
he's too little.
Yeah.
Well,
good luck.
Good luck,
man.
It's,
it's stressful.
We got a couple of messages from Chris and Chris had posted these on our fan
site,
I think.
And he posted this one.
I think this one,
it's old timey Tom and Cecil.
This one is okay. This is pretty good. Pretty close. I he posted this one. I think this one, it's old timey Tom and Cecil. This one is okay.
This is a pretty good one.
Pretty close.
I mean,
pretty close.
The guy definitely has,
the guys definitely have
sort of our face shapes.
Yeah.
And our heights too,
I think.
It looks like our heights as well.
And the difference in hair color
is pretty good.
Difference in hair color
is pretty close.
And the me picture
has soulless white eyes.
Soulless dead eyes like you.
So it's very close to you.
Very likely.
Very close to you.
Yeah.
Tom has to kill someone every night
and pour them into his eyes.
And that's the only way his eyes get color.
You should see him on the days
when he doesn't kill anybody.
It's rare.
I almost always bag one.
It's terrifying.
Yeah, but it does kind of look like us
because we're all white guys with beards,
it turns out. But we're going to guys with beards, it turns out.
So, but we're going to post this on this week's show notes.
I will not post the second one though, Chris,
because I don't think this one looks like us at all.
It's not as close.
Doesn't look like us at all, really.
So I'm not going to post this other one.
But the first one we will post,
we got a message from Mike and Mike said,
I've never emailed a podcast before,
but I wanted to say great work.
I started listening last summer during the pandemic
and have been an addictive listener since then.
He said, also said, and I want to say this too,
because I really enjoyed it.
Also last episode is probably Ian's best work
as far as editing and ads.
He did a great job.
He did a nice job.
He really did.
Last week when he broke in a couple of times,
it was very funny.
So I corrected my pronunciations and everything.
Your pronunciation was funny too.
That was funny too.
He did a great job on that.
So yeah, we agree.
Tom, I want to read this.
We got some facts wrong.
We did.
I got them wrong specifically.
Yeah, it says, this is from Robert
and he's correcting on what happened
during the good guy with a gun scenario
that you broke down for us last week.
He says, here's how it went down.
Dipshit sneaks up behind a cop
and shoots him with a shotgun.
Dipshit goes back to
his truck to exchange shotgun for ar good guy with a gun pulls a pistol and shoots and kills the guy
with the shotgun good guy with a gun picks up the ar in case the dipshit isn't dead cop two kills
good guy with a gun now i'm not sure that that changes much of what you said. No. But it definitely does add a different gun.
It does.
It does.
So forgive me.
I didn't get, and I wasn't going off,
deciding to have the story in front of me
was going off of memory when I relayed it.
I think the important part and the point
and the commentary was the guy who was lauded as a hero,
the guy who killed the guy who killed the cop
was executed by the cops
with extreme prejudice
and no opportunity to surrender.
Sure.
That was my fucking point.
And that's the point.
And that also shows you too
that there's no real benefit
in being the good guy with a gun
in a situation where the cops
are being shot at
because they are going
to indiscriminately shoot
until everything
stops moving.
Right, yeah.
Obviously,
they didn't give this guy
an opportunity to surrender.
That was what I said last time.
They'd given this guy
an opportunity to surrender
since he wasn't a murderer
or a bad guy
to start with,
so to say.
And I hate using
good guy and bad guy.
I know, it's terrible.
But we know what we're saying.
We're saying it in quotes.
Just imagine we're saying it
in quotes.
But like, you didn't give him a chance to surrender. We got a terrible reduction. But we know what we're saying. We're saying it in quotes. Just imagine we're saying it in quotes. But like, you didn't give him a chance to surrender.
We got a message here.
This is from Phoenix.
And Tom, you wanted to read part of this.
Yeah, case in point,
it's talking about people leaving religion due to Trump.
They think this is a significant phenomenon.
Case in point, my 81-year-old grandmother
who has gone to the same Catholic church
in Louisville, Kentucky for over 60 years.
She's never someone to cause a scene, hates attention.
Last year, they told people from the pulpit to vote for Trump
and she got up mid-sermon and walked down the aisle
and out the doors in front of everyone
and hasn't been at church since then.
Holy shit.
60 years.
Insane, man.
I can't imagine somebody saying that though right
like just say
because I know
that there's no teeth
in anything that we say
and I know that they said
that they were pulling
that Johnson amendment
or whatever
so it doesn't matter anyway
but
god just
the amount of poll you have
as a religious organization
anyway
yep
because they can
they can make you lean
any way you want
they can tell you
what position you need
to vote on
yeah here I'll just
I'll just pick these key wedge issues,
bring them up over and over and over and over again.
So you don't even have to say it.
You can say every talking point.
But just to say out loud, vote for Trump,
and then they're like, I mean, at this point,
it's just not even pretending.
Nope, not at all.
We got a message from Pete.
This is a good message.
He says, I want to let you guys know
that you're more than entertainment and content.
I know from my own experience and my comments made by others,
you guys actively contribute to the quality of life and the content you provide us.
My life is far better with you guys.
And I know your listeners who feel the same.
It can be a lonely thing to be an atheist in North Texas.
So I recognize that.
And we've known that for a long time,
that our friendship that is very free about talking about certain issues
that you just can't talk about
feels freeing to other people.
And it makes them feel like
they're involved in the conversation
and they can have these conversations
even if they could never have them
with the people that are around them
on a day-to-day basis.
And so we know that that is one of the values
of the podcast and we're happy to be
the sort of outlet for that for people
who can't have those conversations.
Well, that's part of why we started this thing
all those years ago.
It was really to open our friendship up to other people,
to open this connection that you and I have up
and let other people experience it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're glad that it matters to people.
Yeah, for sure.
We really are.
Oh, this is depressing.
Eric sends a message.
He says, this is amazing that more likely these QAnon believers
are more likely to get elected to Congress
than us atheists.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
It's just true.
Ask how many out atheists there are in Congress.
And then they said there was like 24
fucking QAnon people.
And so, yeah, it's just,
it's easier nowadays to be a fruit loop.
Tom, this is a message from Jen about vaccine hesitancy.
This was upsetting.
I recently worked in a nursing home as a member of the management team.
We were eligible for the vaccine in early January because we were with a highly vulnerable
population.
Nearly 100% of the residents got the vaccine.
Only 37% of the staff got it.
Staff still get tested at least once a week.
And every time a staff member tests positive, the whole building goes on lockdown.
Residents can't leave their rooms.
Activities are canceled.
Visitors are banned.
Meals are in room.
Lockdown continues until the building is COVID-free for two weeks.
Since January, there have only been four weeks the building has been COVID-free.
Since January.
Because staff keeps testing positive.
Corporate will not mandate the vaccine. They don't mandate the flu vaccine. It's infuriating
that staff selfish is impacting the health and well-being of these residents who have very little
say in what happens to them anymore. That is so stupid. If you're in a nursing facility,
you're in a nursing facility, you are in many ways under the, it's almost prison-like in your inability to exercise agency to leave, right? And to have the staff care so little about your
health, your wellbeing, and not just your health in terms of COVID, but your mental health. And
because, you know, having all of your activities and
connections to other people, your visitors, just to take a group of people that's already isolated
and to isolate them even more. There's a level of just selfishness to that decision, which is cruel.
You shouldn't be in that industry if you're not willing to protect yourself, to protect because you wouldn't, you wouldn't let
somebody who just happened to have
like knives for
hands be one of the people there.
Hello, I'm
Edward Scissorhands. I will be your new
CNA.
Like you wouldn't, you wouldn't let somebody
though that is,
you wouldn't let somebody smoke around the patients for instance.
Right. You wouldn't let somebody do that.
So,
but we somehow think
that it's okay
for people to make
these other decisions
that can make them dangerous
around these patients.
You do,
probably do a background check
on those people
to see if they have any violence
in their history,
I imagine.
I don't know,
but I imagine.
I would think so.
So they probably check
to see if they have any violent crimes
or anything in their history.
We do these things to make sure they're safe.
If there's other requirements for you to be in there,
then medical requirements are just as on the table
as the rest of those requirements.
Absolutely.
I can't imagine being in a,
and spending all the money you spend
for the privilege of being in a nursing home facility.
I know, I know.
It's $8,000, $9,000, $10,000 a month to be in one of those places.
And they have to be like,
yeah,
you're locked in your fucking room.
Yeah.
Why am I locked in my room?
Oh,
cause fucking this fucking CNA or whatever.
Didn't want to get a shot.
Yeah.
I got to be blocked in my room.
I got my shot.
It's stupid.
It's so,
it's so stupid and it's selfish.
It is.
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