Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 787: DNC vs RNC, JD Vance and the Post Menopausal Female

Episode Date: August 26, 2024

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Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism and irreverence to any topic that makes the news makes it big or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political and there is no welcome. Matt today is Thursday, August the 22nd. And this is a joy filled day. See, so that's the word, right? That's, that's it. Yeah.

And I got to tell you, I'm feeling it. Yeah, I'm feeling it. This feeling that is surrounding the Harris campaign has the same buzz the same vibe the same energy as the 2008 hope and change Obama campaign. I agree. I agree. It is it's fucking electric. It feels so different and I also watched so we record on Thursday night so you and I will not see Kamala's speech until tomorrow, right? Right. We'll have to watch it tomorrow I caught a little bit of Elizabeth Warren earlier before you showed up, and then there was a couple

of other pieces that I watched earlier. But Kamala's speaking tonight, and what I saw, what they had mentioned was a bunch of the ladies in the audience are wearing white tonight. And they're wearing white as a symbol of suffragette, the suffragette movement. Oh, that's cool. And what a cool thing to have over a hundred years

of women voting, and this could be the first time we actually see a woman president in that over a century of women actually getting a chance to vote. And I don't know, I don't know how this is gonna shake out, so I'm not predicting anything, but I will say that like, on a fucking vibes level, this feels different than when Hillary was running. It does. It very much does. You know, like Hillary should have won, right? Hands down, fucking hands down, Hillary should have won.

Hillary did win the popular vote. She won the popular vote, but she didn't win the electoral college. She didn't become president. I think that was a horror for this country. An absolute horror for this country. She was qualified, she was smart, she was a great candidate for president. She should have won. It is a tragedy that she didn't win. This does feel different though.

And maybe it feels different because the Clinton family was a dynasty family. Maybe it feels different because there's not enough time to sort of like let the massage just like wrap their fucking head around and react and dig up the dirt and all that stuff. Maybe it's different because the times have changed. I don't know. It's just different. You can feel the difference. When Obama was running, I really felt a level of excitement for somebody who's not, you know, just somebody who's been

in a political dynasty for so long. We had the Bushes, right? We had three terms of Bushes in our lifetime. We also had the Bushes for two terms in our life as a vice president. So five total terms of Bushes in our life, right? That's 20 years of our life. It's time to trim that Bush.

I'll tell you what, you really gotta pluck that Bush. Trim that shit back. You've got a Brazilian wax that Bush. But that's one dynasty. Yeah. Then you do a, you know, the Obama was two terms, but Biden was part of that. And then again, Biden is part of this, this last time that he ran Hillary ran.

And before that was two Clinton terms. And she was secretary of state. She was secretary of state very much involved again. So you're right. So there fells feels like there's always sort of been this sort of feeling of dynasty now, Obama felt different because Obama felt like a breath of fresh air, something new, right? Sure, Joe was in government, but Joe was the vice president,

and Joe was also like not as big a deal, I think, for a lot of Americans. I'm sure he was a big deal for some Americans, right? He'd been a senator for fucking up. And also a big deal for, I think, a lot of white America that was uneasy with a black president at the time. They were like, oh, it's Joe or know, it's Joe. It's an establishment trusted guy. I know. And I say that because I recognize that there was, there is, and was at that point, still plenty of racism against Obama. So, but I felt like there was definitely that feeling

that we're getting now. It's a, it's a feeling of, it's not just hope and change, but of excitement for growth, excitement for something new. We're stuck in this sort of old white guy machine for so long. For the last several years, it's been the same thing. I mean, you're dealing with Trump for three straight terms. Yeah, yeah. And there's just this joyful energy.

And they're using that word and it's the right word. It feels like, holy shit, like we could breathe again. We can have something that is genuinely historic in the run, all the right ways. We can like banish the monster and that's what we always wanted to do. And that's what like when we were saying like you got to vote for Biden, you did, right? Like that was still true back then, but like the real reason you had a vote for Biden was like, well, goddamn, look at the other side. It was just that scary. Even if he didn't like the guy, he got to vote against the other guy.

But like there's something historic to vote for and it feels really different. And I don't want to take away actually from Joe's legacy as a president. I think he was actually a really very good president, but he was also an old white guy and he was also like we were saying, he was also iterative. good president, but he was also an old white guy. And he was also, like we were saying, he was also iterative. He was dynasty. And things just feel different. And I notice that as plugged into politics

as I've been now for quite a long time, this is the first time in my life that I've watched any convention ever. I've never watched a convention. Yeah, I've never watched a convention. Yeah, I've never watched a convention. I've been watching like nomination speeches and I've been watching, I watched a rally the other day. I've never watched a rally.

I've never in my life watched a rally. I've read about them. I've read however many hundreds of news stories about rallies and conventions, but I've never actually been like, I'm gonna watch that rally. And I watched a rally and I watched parts of the like, I'm gonna watch that rally. And I watched a rally. And I watched parts of the convention.

And I'm behaving different. And I'm somebody who's plugged right the fuck in. And it's changed my behavior. I think I've sort of paid attention to a lot of this stuff. I've watched some rallies in the past. I've watched some of the convention stuff in the past. Not certainly not as much as I've watched this time. I hadn't watched any of the RNC,

but I watched some of the DNC and it felt like you said, joyous and there's a lot going on and there's a lot of people who are really excited. And then I thought to myself, well, what did the RNC look like? And like you hadn't watched any of the RNCs, you didn't see any of it. So I wanna play a couple of clips in contrast with each other. So I'm gonna play a couple watched any of the RNC's, so you didn't see any of it. So I want to play a couple of clips

in contrast with each other. So I'm going to play a couple of clips from the RNC and a couple of clips from the DNC. We're going to watch them together. We'll try to describe to the audience that's watching what we're watching when we're watching it. But I think like we could talk about what's being said too, because I think what's being said is probably more important

than what you're, I mean, what you're gonna see is probably a lot of, in the RNC, you're gonna see a lot of grammas. That's what you're gonna see. You're not gonna see much else, but in the, you're gonna hear some things that I think, in my opinion, have a totally different tone. So let's start Tom.

Yes, sir. Hulk Hogan. Because I mean, you gotta start with Hulk Hogan right? Here we go. But what I found out was I was in a room full of real Americans brother. And at the end of the day with our leader up there, my hero, that gladiator, we're gonna bring America back together. One real American at a time, brother. You know something?

I've seen some great tag teams in my time. Hulk Hogan and ooh yeah, the Macho Man Randy Savage. What is happening Cecil? Cecil, these people want the most important job in the entire country, possibly the world. Oh yeah, we're a snap into a Slim Jim. Vote for Hulk Hogan's best friend, Donald Trump. But you know something?

I see the greatest tag team of my life standing upon us, getting ready to standing up for all the real Americans. You know, even though you guys are real Americans, you better get ready because when Donald Dick J. Trump becomes the president. Call them Donald Dick J. Trump, Tom. Donald Dick J. Trump. I don't know. His name's not his name's like Donald J. Trump. J. Trump.

I don't know why he got to the Trump. Why do you throw the dick in there. Dude, whenever, whenever Hulk Hogan can throw the dick in there, Hogan is going to throw a dick. Crazy slip to have happened and nobody's like, did he just call him Donald Dick? Trump? He did. He called him Donald Dick. Here we go.

Let's let's do it one more time. You better get ready because when Donald Dick J. Trump becomes the president, I think he was about to say Donald duck. I think that, I think that what happened is he had that brain thing where like you start saying Donald and like the next thing your brain starts to fill it. He's like Dick, dog, dick, dick, duck. I think that's what happened. I think he was going to call him Donald duck and it said he punted last night.

I like Donald dick is way better. This is so good. Donald dick is way better. Of the United States, all the real Americans are going to be nicknamed Trumpites because all the Trumpites are going to be running wild for four years. So with the power of Donald J. Trump and all the Trumpites running wild, America is going to get back on track. And like Donald J. Trump said, America is going to be great again. All right.

So there is one example, Tom, of a an RNC speech. I want to point out the language because, you know, like we can make fun of fucking Hulk. It's fucking easy. an RNC speech, I want to point out the language. Because we can make fun of fucking Hulk Hogan. It's fucking easy. He's a fucking old, washed up fucking wrestler that no one, that everyone forgot was alive. Like we forgot Hulk Hogan was alive yesterday. We had no idea.

But Cecil, and I do want to, I absolutely want to get into the substance, if it can be called that, the problematic language that he chose. I'm right there with you. but I do want to tell the audience that later in his speech, he rips his shirt off. You guys rip his shirt off to show a Trump-Pence shirt underneath. Yeah. Yeah. Because that was his shtick.

That's his shtick. That's what he's got. When he was doing the wrestling. Yeah. It's like- He ripped his fucking shirt off. Like there's some guys who just have to pull a quarter from behind your ear every time they see you. Yeah, right. It's it's fucking flexy grandpa Yeah, it's so it's like your dad who used to be like you got something on your shirt And then you hit you in the face Like it's that guy like he's that guy that's a stick the guy who walks behind you like touches your opposite shoulders

You look the wrong way on the side. It's great So in any case what he's saying when he keeps saying the same language, which is, you know, real Americans. And there is a tie to him saying real Americans in his wrestling career, because he had a song that was like, he used to come out to. Oh, he did have a song.

I'm a real American. I don't even know, I don't know how it goes. It goes like every old rock song I know, but I remember that there was a song. I I don't even know. I don't know how it goes. It goes. It goes like every old rock song I know but it's I remember that I do remember that yeah that he came out to that had that real image. So, so it is a is a toss to that. But understand that that's coded language too, right? Even though even though he could easily look back and this is also what every Republican does, right? They're just like, oh, you're getting too uptight about this. You're thinking way too hard about it.

You just had a song that happened. No, using the word real Americans and then having signs the previous day that said mass deportation now, I think we can connect the dots. This is, they're lying because they think it's funny, not because they believe it or think you believe it. That's it.

It's like the lie to cover up the reality of their bigotry is just play acting. It's fun and it's trolling. It's there because they think that it like upsets you. There's clearly an attempt to draw a line. The Republican party platform is basically let the white people be in charge. We know better.

Yeah. No, I don't disagree. That's the platform. I don't disagree. White men, let the white men be in charge. We know better. I wanna play in contrast to that. Raphael Warnock speech at the end.

I wanna play a piece of his speech. Raphael Warnock, we raised some money for him and Asaf. They were the Georgia senators that were embroiled in a runoff battle that we helped with a bunch of other podcasts raise money for. And so we helped put this guy in office. I mean, even if it's the tiniest amount, our audience helped put this guy in office in the past.

So in some ways, you know, like this group of atheists got together, mostly atheists, I presume, and they helped a religious guy become, you know, a republic or a democratic senator. And he's gonna use religious language in his speech if you watch the whole speech. But you also have to recognize, I think, as much as I think a lot of people dislike religion,

I think you have to recognize when people aren't using it as a weapon and they're using it as a way to help others and to help lift other people up. And I think that there's always a clear distinction between those people, right? Somebody's got it as a club, somebody's got it as a way to help other people up. And I think that this is, there's always a clear distinction between those people. Somebody's got it as a club, somebody's got it as a way to help other people.

And you've got to bring those, those are real distinctions that we have to make as atheists too, to see that there are good people out there who happen to be religious. Yeah, and you've said for a long time, and I'll paraphrase you, because I don't remember exactly how you said it, but for a long time you said,

you would rather be in contact with and try to be friends with a religious person who was a humanist and shared your values. Yeah, absolutely. Then an atheist who was not a humanist and didn't share your values. I would 100% want to hang out with a religious person who I shared values with and say Sargon.

Yeah, right. Yeah, look, if I found out that Hulk Hogan was an atheist and you said, hey, Tom, do you want to have dinner with Raphael Warnock or Hulk Hogan? Who would you pick? Easy choice. It's such an easy choice. It's an easy choice. Because you know that by the end of the dinner, Warnock would still have his shirt on.

Not if I have anything to say about it. All right, we're just going to watch a minute or so at the end of the speech. I think there's a lot of this speech. You should watch this whole speech if you have time because it's really amazing. It's really amazing. But I want to play the end of the speech for people just so you could hear the last piece because I think it's very important and contrast that with what I just played with Hulk Hogan. Yeah.

Before you do that, real quick, one thing I also want the listeners to just take note of in their mind is, and this is a minor thing, but the quality of the rhetoricians on our side of the aisle versus their side of the aisle. It's just worth noting. It's not even close! It's not even close. Just as sheer rhetoricians, just as people whose job it is to say words in the right order to move your soul, to reach into you and find and tug on your heart,

to motivate your conscience, the difference between us and them could not be more stark. Sure, for sure. All right, so let's play this. This is Raphael Warnock's end of his speech. And so I'm convinced tonight for sure. All right, so let's play this. This is Raphael Warnock's end of his speech. And so I'm convinced tonight that we can lift the broken even as we climb. I'm convinced

tonight that we can heal sick bodies. We can heal the wounds that divide us, we can heal the land. And in a strange way, in a strange way, the pandemic taught us how. A contagious airborne disease means that I have a personal stake in the health of my neighbor. If she's sick, I may get sick also. Her health care is good for my health. I'm just trying as close in our humanity as a cough. I need my neighbor's children to be okay so that my children will be okay. I need all of my neighbor's children to be okay. Poor inner-city children in Atlanta and poor children of Appalachia. I need the poor children of Israel and the poor children of Gaza. I need Israelis and Palestinians. I need

those in the Congo, those in Haiti, those in Ukraine. I need American children on both sides of the track to be okay. Because we are all God's children. And so let's stand together. Let's work together. Let's organize together. Let's pray together. Let's stand together. Let's heal the land. God bless you.

Keep your faith. So that's Warnock. And look at the difference in language, right? We're real Americans. All us little Trumpists or Trumpites or whatever you call them are going to go running wild. We're going to run wild with the power of Donald J. Trump versus I need every child to be okay. Yeah. I need every child to live safely. What is

the difference there? It's division versus unity. Like this is like starkly the messaging is like embrace division and allow the powerful to wield their power over the less fortunate. That is the object lesson that the right is trying to impart and what they want is to say, and if you vote with us, you will be one of the haves and not one of the have nots. You get to make some decisions. Wouldn't it be great to have rather than to have not?

Wouldn't it be great to be powerful to wield your power over the powerless? And what like Warnock and the left is saying is like, we can all, like I love what he says, he's like, we can bring people up even as we climb. We can raise people up even as we climb. That like my success does not come at your expense. My ability to rise doesn't mean that you lose.

We all have a stake in the same thing. It's division versus unity. And it's such a powerful contrast. There's such opposing diametric views of the world that we want to build with each other. It's amazing how different that view is. And what shocks me is, I think I know, I know not a ton, but I know some Trump supporters and they seem relatively empathetic when you talk to them. But like the messaging is not empathetic. Every bit of messaging that I heard, I mean, they are definitely talking about the downside

of electing Donald Trump. Don't get me wrong. I mean, watch some of these things. They're going to make comments about, you know, how bad a person he is, how he's a liar, how he's cheated on all kinds of things, be it taxes or wives or whatever. And I think there is certainly some taking down

the opponent happening at the DNC. Absolutely. But I also recognize that there is also time for them to say, hey, we want to help everybody. And that's a totally different message. It is. Like on the right, there's this message that says, that acknowledges,

they're both doing the first sentence the same way. You're hurting. They both make that claim. You are hurting. They make it differently, but they make that claim. On the right though, it's you're hurting. Let's get revenge together. You're hurting. Whose fault is it? It's their fault. Let's get them. And the message on the left is you're hurting. Let's help. It's a big difference. And it's not you're hurting. It's we're hurting. Yeah.

Let's fix it. That's true too, it's we're hurting. Yeah. That's true too. We're hurting. Let's fix it. Let's work together to help. Let's fix it. All right. I want to play Marjorie Taylor Greene next.

So this is a clip from Marjorie Taylor Greene. If you didn't think Marjorie Taylor Greene was going to find a way to slip transphobia into her speech, you'd be wrong. Oh, shock of shock. So let's play that from the RNC a couple like last week or two weeks ago. For far too long the establishment in Washington has sold us out. They promised unity and delivered division. They promised peace and brought war. They promised normalcy and gave

us transgender visibility day on Easter Sunday. It fell on Easter Sunday, but it happens. Easter Sunday is a moving target. Maybe you should like change your moon holiday. And let me state this clearly. There are only two genders. How's that happen? That's a great way to help. And we are made in God's image. Amen. And we won't shy away from speaking that simple truth ever.

The Democrats ripped open our borders and allowed millions of illegal aliens to pour in driving up the cost of housing and healthcare. Well, slashing them. Hold on a second. How in the absolute fuck do illegal immigrants drive up the cost of housing of all things? Of housing. I go to buy a house.

Do you know how that house is built? Construction mostly. Construction has a unbelievably high percentage of migrant laborers helping to bring those costs down because those laborers are paid a much less wage than they would be if those were citizen wages. Yeah, yeah, she doesn't know. She just doesn't know. She's just saying things to inflame the audience. That's all she's saying. American wages and eliminating jobs. They claim that our economy is thriving.

Yet hundreds of thousands of American-born workers lost their jobs these past few years. The Democrats' economy is of, by, and for illegal aliens. Who believes that? Look at him. Did you even get an applause? Our open borders have also unleashed the worst drug crisis in America. That guy is totally sleeping. Look at that guy.

Look at that guy. He's 100 percent asleep. Look at him. You could put something in his mouth and he wouldn't even know. You could like, you know, like when your friend fell asleep at the party and you'd put a bunch of cigarettes in their mouth that he wouldn't even know. You could like, you know, like when your friend fell asleep at the party and you'd put a bunch of cigarettes in their mouth. They had like cigarettes. You could fucking stick a whole like fucking couple of shakes in his mouth. I wouldn't even know.

Somebody should do it. Oh, God. So they should pile a serious right like Democrat on his head. American history. Yet while hundreds of thousands of Americans are suffering, the Democrats spent over $175 billion dollars, your tax dollars, to secure Ukraine's borders. But they tell us the border wall is too expensive. Expensive she has there, but it cut out. So she's again, you were saying rhetoricians, right?

The difference in rhetorician. She's an awful speaker and she makes no points. No, she's comparing apples to oranges, you know, foreign help to a nation that is literally under siege and our southern border. And she's conflating people who come across the border who happen to be asylum seekers with illegal people who didn't actually, who are undocumented. She's conflating a ton of different things together.

She's making false claims. She's just, again, what you said earlier, she's trying to divide us. Yeah, yeah, 100%. And then in the process, she's also making her fucking Putin dog whistle. Absolutely. Help the right get elected.

Absolutely. And we will stop Ukraine's ability to push back on this illegal invasion of Ukraine. Let's listen to Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama's speech again, like Raphael Warnock, un-fucking-real, absolutely outstanding start to finish. I can't play the whole thing, but I want to play a piece of it that I think is especially important and really wonderful. So here it comes.

And it's a, what I love about it too is that if you're looking for them taking jabs, this is how she, famously of the Obama's saying, we go high, they go low, this is how she, famously of the Obamas saying, we go high, they go low, this is how she takes a jab. Which I think is unbelievably classy and points out hypocrisy and shittiness on the other side without being awful. And can I, before you play that, let me point out too,

that what we just listened to from Marjorie Taylor Greene, is she made a point of taking jabs at entire categories of American people, not somebody who's seeking power. There's a big difference between punching up to Donald Trump and punching down to the LGBTQ community, punching down to everybody who isn't a Christian, right? Cause she said, we believe in God, there's only one God. We're all children of God, we believe that.

And that's different than Ralphie L. Warnock's message. Even though he invoked a Christian God, he didn't do it in an exclusive way. He did it in a way that specifically seeks to create inclusion. Totally different. There's a big, big difference and that matters. That makes such a difference.

They're punching down, real Americans is punching down. Who are the not real Americans? Who are we saying as citizens don't count? Yeah. The, the Obamas aren't talking about other people talking about one person. Yeah. That's a big difference. It's a huge difference.

So here's, here's this piece. I think it's really well done. Kamala has shown her allegiance to this nation, not by spewing anger and bitterness, but by living a life of service and always pushing the doors of opportunity open to others. She understands that most of us will never be afforded the grace of failing forward. We will never benefit from the affirmative action of generational wealth. God, that's a good one. Oh my God, we don't get a second, third or fourth chance.

If things don't go our way, we don't have the luxury of whining or cheating others to get further ahead. No. We don't get to change the rules so we always win. If we see a mountain in front of us, we don't expect there to be an escalator waiting to take us to the top. We put our heads down. We get to work.

In America, we do something. We don't have the luxury of whining or cheating others to get further ahead. No. We don't get to change the rules so we always win. If we see a mountain in front of us, we don't expect there to be an escalator waiting to take us to the top. We put our heads down. We get to work. In America, we do something.

And throughout her entire life, that's what we've seen from Kamala Harris. The steel of her spine, the steadiness of her upbringing, the honesty of her example, and yes, the joy of her laughter and her light. It couldn't be more obvious of the two major candidates in this race. Only Kamala Harris truly understands the unseen labor and unwavering commitment that has always made America great. Now unfortunately, we know what comes next. We know folks are going to do everything they can to distort her truth.

My husband and I sadly know a little something about this. For years, Donald Trump did everything in his power to try to make people fear us. See, his limited, narrow view of the world made him feel threatened by the existence of two hard-working, highly educated, successful people who happen to be black. Wait. I want to know. I want to know. Who's going to tell him, who's going to tell him that the job he's currently seeking might just be one of those black jobs? God, that's so good.

Her face afterwards. Oh, it's amazing. So good. Her face is amazing. And she just looks at the camera like, hmm, uh-huh, outstanding speech. But again, if you were going to pick something out and say, are they going after Trump?

Yeah, they absolutely are. 100%. But what they're pointing out are things that he's benefited from. I mean, like, this is a guy, if you were to ask Donald Trump, do you think you benefited from privilege? He would absolutely deny it. He would, 100%.

He would 100% deny it. We read his book for patrons, and in that book, he talks about being, he's talking about all these other people who are really rich guys saying they came from the lucky sperm club. Yeah. And he's denigrating them. As if his own father didn't absolutely bankroll all of his initial plans.

Yeah, every. Like it's this absolute like fucking delusional syndrome that like people don't seem to see that he is a generational wealth billionaire. Yeah. That like the money that he achieved, he achieved because his father had money. Yeah. That he took risks because he had a safety net that he failed and it didn't matter because he was rich enough to fail. And when the rest of us, to her point, we don't have that luxury. Can't fail forward. That's it. Can't fail forward. And he did multiple times, multiple times.

So he's like, and again, it's okay to go after a candidate. Yeah, no. What a difference between go after a candidate. What a difference between going after a candidate and going after a minority group. Exactly. Holy shit. Yeah, I wanna talk though,

cause this is something that's been brought up that we haven't actually talked about yet. And it's talking about laughter. They go after her because she laughs and she like whole body laughs. Yeah. And like very much has a loud laugh, right? And they don't like that. That makes them mad. And I want to tell you, I don't know how many fucking bad reviews we've gotten over the years.

Because people are upset that we're laughing. It's not just this show. Yeah. It's a Tation needed. You know, other shows that we do, we'll get messages from people, be like, you guys just laugh all the time. You're laughing at each other's jokes. You're like, yeah, because we like each other. Yeah. And we're having fun.

And that's how real interaction with another human works. I know that may be difficult for you to understand, but there's so many people who get upset by that. And I want to just point out, she just acts like a regular person who on occasion can't experience joy and it upsets people to their core. So something occurs to me right now

that never occurred to me, Cecil. And that is that, so it's a pretty well-known phenomenon. And I think this is accurate. It's a pretty well-known phenomenon that the right is not funny. Comedians that are on the right, right-wing comedians, they're not funny. The funny ones are very few and far between. The ones that are even accidentally talented at being funny. Joe Rogan just had a show where he did a comedy special. It was awful.

I mean. Genuinely awful. They're not funny. He couldn't even make his audience laugh. Yeah, like they are not funny on that side. They don't, and that's because I think that they don't understand the difference between humor and meanness.

Like humor is not, humor can be mean. You can tell a mean joke, but it is not the same thing as being mean. They don't seem to get the difference. They don't seem to understand that there's something there. So for them, there's just, all they see and all they value is the meanness part. The meanness part is what gets them off. The meanness part is, I think for other people, the meanness might be a tool to get to the joke, right? A tool to create the humor. But like, they're not trying to find joy.

They're not working toward finding something to laugh at or to connect over. They're working toward the meanness. Sure, the meanness is the point. The meanness is the point of it. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's probably pretty accurate because you're right.

If you were to take out all the funny parts of it, they would still be excited about it because it hurts somebody, makes somebody feel bad. But they genuinely don't like the idea that she laughs. Well, for the laughing too, I strongly do believe that there's a gender element too. I think so too. Right?

Like this is a woman making a sound. And like what we've seen is that women in politics, no way that they dress is the right way. There's no way to dress. There's no way, there's no amount of pretty or not pretty that you can be. You can't be the right age. You can't be young and pretty like Ocasio-Cortez.

You can't be more mature like Elizabeth Warren. You have to be something else. And we've never figured out what it is that makes a woman acceptable in politics. Yeah, it's not in politics. It's just not in politics. It's not in politics is the acceptable default. That's what you want.

And I think that laugh, that laugh is just something about her physicality that because they can't come out and say, I hate your vagina. Yeah, I hate you because you're a woman. Yeah. I hate you because you're a woman. Right. I hate you because you're a woman. They have to find something else.

And I think genuinely you're right because you think about how many comments they talked about Hillary being shrill. Yeah. Right? When she was just being forceful. Right. And they're like, no, she's shrill.

And they're going to make comments about her. You know, what they're trying to do is demean her because she's a woman. Absolutely. She laughs too loud. She clearly had sex to get where she was going. Those types of things are, you know, like, nobody's ever making any of those statements about any dudes.

Those are never anything they're ever saying about dudes. And so, yeah, they're absolutely attacking her just for, I mean, this is clearly misogynistic to that. Can we talk real quick too about the misogyny built into the, and it's pretty obvious, but I want to bring something up, like the whole idea of like a woman sleeping her way to the top. It's always so telling that in that scenario, it's the woman who's at fault. Yeah, I guess that's true, right?

Yeah. Why? Why isn't it the people who let the power go to somebody who's not qualified? Right. Like, why am I not the moral defect? Like, let's say a woman sleeps with me and I have power and I elevate her. Why is it not my moral defect? We always presume it's... I don't know what they would say, but I think that they don't know what they would say, but I think that they're saying that they're both... They would probably say they're both at fault.

Yeah. I think that we don't ever look at the supposed men that these people... Because it doesn't matter. Yeah. It's the same thing with... You know, we always talk about, you know, like single mothers. We never talk about why they're single. Right. Yeah. You always say, like, you always blame it on single mothers. You're like, okay, well, they're not about why they're single. Right. Yeah. You always blame it on single mothers. You're like, okay, well, they're not just like spawning children.

They're not budding. Yeah. They're like, right. They'd be like, oh, press that button. Guess I'll have a kid in nine months. Like that's not how it works. But we just seem to conveniently forget why they happen to be single mothers. Well, it's because like we make sure that women bear not just all the children, but

all the blame. All the blame too. All the blame. And it's true, it's embedded in our society. So I'm not gonna play the final clip. I did have a clip of Ted Cruz, but we're running a little long. I do wanna play one more piece though. This is Little John announcing,

and I just wanna, like what I want you to pay attention to here is just the joy of the womb, right? Like he comes out and he sings a song, a rap song, and it's a very short rap song because there's only one line in the rap song. And then he comes out and he sings it. And then he is basically, this song is basically a party song,

like turn up the music, you know? And so he is singing this song and you could just look around the room and see the joy when they were when when kid rock Took the stage and I couldn't find I didn't want to get a clip of it and to be honest I don't want ever play kid rock on our show. So I was like, I'm not gonna play it, but he's just stand up there He's like everybody say Trump Trump and it was like Trump But he's like everybody say fight fight and so like there's a bunch of like, you know older people in the audience that are like So like, there's a bunch of like, you know, older people in the audience that are like, fight, Trump, fight.

They don't look like they're into it. They don't care. Watch this. Watch this and just, just watch the energy in the room when he comes out for Georgia. How do you cast your vote? Ladies and gentlemen, we are here tonight to officially nominate Kevlar Harris for President of the United States. Look at that fucking crowd. Look at them go. They're just bouncing dude. Look at that guy behind him. He's like yeah motherfucker turned out for what?

The energy is so palpable. I love those wall spaces. Oh my god they they're so good. Wall spaces, it's amazing. Damn, say, we're not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back. We're not going back. B.B. Harris. Come to the wall.

That's so good. B.B. Harris. Look at all those people dancing. I love it. Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!

Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Mr. Secretary, the South's got something to say. At Congresswoman Nakima Williams, Chairwoman of the Democratic Party of Georgia, Georgia, the home of President Jimmy Carter,

the cradle of the civil rights movement. High five to Governor, who wants a Reverend Warnock there. Extremists in Georgia are trying to silence our voices by kicking Georgians off of the rolls and making it harder to vote. But y'all, when we send Kamala Harris to the White House, she'll fight for our freedom to vote, our reproductive freedoms and our freedom to thrive. In the spirit of good trouble,

Georgia cast 123 votes for the next president of the United States, come on, we have you! Come on, we have you! Oh, so good. I thought when this came on, they were playing this, and I was like, how fucking great is that? And it's just like so, there's so much energy in that room and everybody's just so happy like it's just a

Totally different vibe just a totally different vibe. I like I Look, I'm not I don't want to pretend like little John hadn't been around for a minute, right? Like little John's like not exactly like today, right? It's not like like a today like not exactly like today, right? It's not like, like in a today current guy, right? But it's a lot more fucking current than fucking Hulk Hogan or Kid Rock. Well, and I mean, I mean, we could argue Kid Rock appropriate to music.

I mean, we could argue that. I wanna say too. It's just, there's no, there's no like, there's no like youth to it. There's no energy to it. There's nothing that like says, I've got to read on America. I don't, I understand. They don't that like says I've got a read on America I don't understand they don't even like they don't even know what's fun yeah they don't and and I think I think this

illustrates sort of the the DNC you're right it's not I mean this song came out two decades ago maybe a decade and a half ago it's an old song it's an old song but it's still a fucking banger it's still a banger and it's still fucking, it's still played at places and it's still played in a way as a hype song, right? It's still played as a hype song. And what I love about it is that they were like, if we're gonna hype, let's hype, let's do this.

Let's fucking rock this. It's not fucking some dumb old guy standing on stage with a mullet screaming fight, fight, fight. It's just a totally different feel. And I really feel like you said earlier, the energy's totally different now. Yeah, it's good. I have a story about that fucking

turned down for what song. I was at a, like years ago, I was working for a university, and Michelle Obama was the first lady at the time, and they had just done a video where she was trying to get kids to eat better. That was her thing, right? I remember that, yeah.

So she had a thing, and she pulled up a turnip. She's like, turnip, for what? And she had a turnip in her hand. That's funny, yeah. It was cute, whatever. And I remember I was doing a presentation for this board of directors at this university, and there's this lady,

and if you don't know it, the board of directors at this university and there's this lady and if you don't know what the Board of Directors universities all rich people like that's all it is just super rich people like CEOs and shit Like that's who's on a board of a universe like on occasion. They'll get like somebody else, but most of the time It's really rich people and so this person's like a CEO is some fucking corporation And she said to me while he's giving my presentation because I was saying you know We're trying to you know build our metrics on These videos but it's difficult because you know, you know, there's our videos that are about this like the mission of diversity So it's hard to get traction. Sure, and she's like, why don't you just make a viral video?

And I said why I don't think you understand what a viral video is In software terms, I was like you just don't make a. Like, you don't get to decide that it's viral. Like, that's not how it's... It's not transactional like that. Why do you just make a viral video? Well, I don't know! But the story is that after this is all over, and I'm cleaning up my shit, they're having a break, and they're all eating their cookies or whatever,

and I'm packing my shit up. And I remember her telling a colleague sitting across from her about, did you see Michelle Obama do that turn up for what? And the other person said, no, I didn't see it. What happened? And she explains what happens. And she's like, it's from a song, this really obscene song.

And she used this obscene song as a way to demonstrate to kids. And I didn't stop her. But in my mind mind I was like, there's only one lyric in that song and it's, you know, something turn it up loud, another round of shots, turn down for what? There's nothing obscene at all in that song.

There's nothing, now the video is suggestive. The video suggests. The video's hilarious. The video's hilarious and suggestive. The video's crazy as hell. But it is suggestive, right? But there's nothing connecting that video to the song itself. Right.

Except for just how... You could listen to the song all day and never see the video and not know what it is. But she was so upset that it was so obscene. And all I could help but think was like, you're just a racist old shitty lady. And you're just mad that a black lady did something that isn't culturally appropriate for you. Yeah, that's all it is.

That's all it is. You're pissed off because some black lady decided to use a song that doesn't represent your culture and that makes you upset and otherized and you're fucking furious about it. Yeah, Al, of course I want it dipped. You know, when I'm walking around Chi towntown where the pizzas are deep and the hot dog buns will make you fail a drug test, I often think, what brought our ancestors to the middle

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Ow! Fuck it's metal. Fuck. And if you want to get fuuuuck, code glory. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought by the military industrial complex. The story comes from the independent DNC night one ratings beat the RNC by 21% despite late

Biden speech. And it's more for the next nights. It's been going up. But what was the crowd size? What I love though is that this is definitively the crowd size. Yeah, it is. This is people saying when you're complaining about in your little rallies, and we talked about it last time about how often he's talking about crowd size,

this is virtual crowd size. It is. And you're fucking, you're losing. And this is the kind of shit that he can't spin by saying it's AI, it's made up, it's these are fake crowds, fake, it's fucking ratings, bro. Yeah. That's ratings. He can't fight it and he's got to swallow it.

And that's the thing I think that's going to make him crazy is that he's got to fucking swallow this and be like, no, I, I, he's going to of course make something up. He'll probably say that it's rigged or that they, they lied about the ratings or something. He's going to make something up. He'll say like gaslight America. Yeah, he will. Yeah. I think he'll say like, oh yeah, well Republicans were watching it to see what our enemies were

or whatever, like whatever insane bullshit he has to tell himself in order to like not feel unpopular. You're not like this is a guy who just needs to feel like he's the pretty girl at the lunch table every time. But it, but I think that of the things that hurt him, this is a guy who just needs to feel like he's the pretty girl at the lunch table. Every time. But I think that of the things that hurt him, this is the stuff that hurts him the most. I mean, speaking of pretty girl at the lunch table. So I don't know if you saw the clips of like Trump talking about like how like Kamala is

like a beautiful woman or whatever. And he's like, ah, but I think I'm prettier. I think I'm more beautiful. I think I'm the prettier one. Like he can't, he can't have any, he can't have anything be, he has to be the number one of everything. Like he has even has to be like, I'm, I'm a, I'm better looking, I'm a better looking person than she is. What an insane person thing to say. If I'm looking at this, I'm like, what are you going to do for me as a constituent? Nobody cares. They don't care, man. They literally don't care what he's going to do for them. You

can ask them any question and they will almost always, if you, if you hide it, if you hide the actual thing and say, what do you think about the Republicans trying to get reproductive health care back? If you were to say that to somebody and they would be like, well how? Oh, they're going to try to overturn the Supreme Court thing. The Republicans are doing that? Yeah. Well, I'm for it. Even if they, even if it's a Republican, they would say they're for it.

Even if you, you couldn't lie to them and say they want to feed all the kids at the lunch table, right? You could tell them every Democrat position and attach it to her and they will 100% agree with it. Yeah. So it doesn't matter what it says. It doesn't matter. That doesn't care.

They don't care. That's fucking true. It's crazy too because he's so transactional and they aren't. Yeah. Yeah. And it's and it's like, it's funny. Barack Obama actually made an oblique reference to that exact same point in his speech.

He's like, yeah, they want to repeal the Affordable Care Act, which now that it's popular, nobody's calling Obamacare anymore. And it's kind of the same thing, right? Like when people went around and said, hey, and they would just take, they wouldn't call it Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act, but they would say, hey, would you support a change to the health care system?

And they would just list the key principles of it. And all of those key principles of the Affordable Care Act were wildly popular. And then if you said, that's Obama's Affordable Care Act, people are like, fuck it, fuck it, I don't want those things I want. I remember getting into fights with people who thought it was gonna be full,

like basically Medicare for all. And you're like, no, that's not what's gonna happen. You don't know what's happening. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. You're fighting for something. You're fighting on something you don't even know. Well, and then you would tell them and you'd show them and they'd be like, that's what they're gonna do at first,

but then they're going to, and then they would write a narrative where they tell a story. Where they're still right. Yeah. But like importantly, like they begin to argue a point that isn't being made by anyone else. They've decided that there is this whole

sort of shadow narrative that is really the truth. And they're the only ones that know it. I guess maybe the deep state started back then. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. If that man was your doctor, giving you a testicular and prostate checkup, it would be totally normal.

So, this story comes from variety.com. Donald Trump falsely claims Taylor Swift has endorsed him by posting AI images and then accepts the endorsement. And they are 100% AI images. I don't think they're in this article. They don't show them, so I can't show them to you. But when you look at them, I mean, they clearly look like AI images.

They're a little fuzzy, the sun's a little too bright. Like when you just look at it, you just know it's an AI image. And what's crazy is that Donald Trump is posting these fake images of a very, very popular singer fake endorsing him, and that's not somehow actionable. I know. And like, it's, it's, it's clearly an attempt

to confuse people because she's wildly popular and holds a lot of sway among people. But I thought like to myself, she endorsed Biden back in 2020. She's not made an endorsement yet. But if I'm her, this would just spur me to make my actual endorsement. I would do it then, yeah, for sure, yeah.

I would just do it like, like if I was her, like and I was planning to endorse Harris anyway, I might raise my hand and be like, I'd like to be at the DNC. I would make a fool out of this man because he's appropriating her image and her popularity and her power and her sway in ways that she wouldn't want. Like is this a really gross, stupid, transparent, desperate? Yeah, very desperate. It comes off super

desperate. Like weird thing to do. Yeah. It's just weird. I think, yeah it is. It's very weird. I think that the... We've seen artists fight back against their songs being used. Yeah. Born in the USA. Don't use my song. Right? Real...

Oh, not real American. What is that song? Tim Walls just played it yesterday night and I can't think of what it is. Is it Neil Young's song? Neil Young, yeah, yeah, yeah. Something about American. I don't know. I don't like Neil Young, so I don't know what the song is. I know the song, but I don't know the name of the song. But in any case, that song, they gave, like, Trump was using it, they said stop using it, and they gave it to Walls.

The song Freedom that Kamal has been using, That, uh, that is, uh, that was used by Trump. They made a video. They tried to make a video with that song and they got served a cease and desist as well. So like they're trying to pull all these songs. And so there is something that artists can do to fight back. I hope she mobilizes her lawyers to fight back against them. Dude, I hope so too. And I hope what she really does is mobilize her fan base to fight against them.

That's what I really hope. What I hope is that she tweets out some shit and is like, hey, look, I am a one man fucking army when it comes to influence. Like one of the most popular influencers in the entire world. I hope she absolutely leverages the shit out of that stuff. Trump at this point is gonna be left with nothing but like kid rock and cat scratch fever. That's gonna be his entire fucking thing.

He's gonna be like bow to the diddy diddy fucking cat scratch fever and that's all he's gonna have. Cat scratch fever. Catch it and see. I'm afraid I have to trust Floris on that one. You see, she's got her doctorate in speech impedimentology from Case Western. I apologize if you can't understand a word I'm saying. No, I understand perfectly. Well, it's very kind of you to lie. This story is from the New Republic. JD Vance's weird thoughts on older women exposed in new audio.

This is, I can't play this audio because it's not, there's not a thing on here, but he was talking, so he's, he's relating a story and this is, I think to Weinstein, he's on their show. This was one of those intellectual dark web guys, right? So he's on this podcast and he's relating the story about how when he was, him and his wife had either their first or second kid, their tenured professor, grandma, his mother-in-law leaves work, comes by to their house to help. Help with the kid. Help with the kid, you know. And he was talking about how great it was. He's like, it's super great, it enabled my wife to get back to work,, you know, he was saying, you know, like how great it was

just to have the mother-in-law around. And the podcaster says, well, yeah. And that's the purpose of the post-menopausal woman. Oh, God, yeah. And he says, yes. And then he continues on with another sentence, right? And I can forgive people if they catch that in the listening and they come back and they say, Hey man, I fucked up.

Like I said, yes, I was, I was replying to something else or thinking he said something else or maybe he was talking about how the importance of grandparents and I missed it. And I said, yes. And if he does it a week or two weeks or three weeks or even three months after that podcast gets posted, I'd forgive him for it. I'd be like, you know what? He posted on his blog, I fucked up, I shouldn't have said that.

There's been times we've messed up and said certain things and we've come back the next week and replaced it and that tape still exists, that tape is still out there of us being wrong. It still exists, but we've come back the phone and said, hey, we're wrong. You can't say shit for a living and then back up and be like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't hold me to the shit I say for a living. Yeah, I know. You

can't do that, man. You use your mouth for work, man. Yup. Then you got to fucking own what your mouth says once in a while. Yeah, man. And like, I don't think this was a, like a quick verbal agreement. Like, and I want to echo what you said. There's a big difference between being in a conversation, you're thinking about what you're going to say, maybe you've got a thought you didn't write down, you've got another, something, a talking point you want to get to before time limits up, whatever it is,

somebody else makes a point, you agree with their point, sometimes just out of habit or like politeness or sort of a verbal tick of like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you make your point and it's different. That's different than being the one who said the thing, that said the horrible thing. But like, yeah, I completely agree with you that if my job is to use my words to influence other people,

at the very least I have a responsibility to listen back to my tape and then to say, oh shit, that is not my true feelings on that. I had to go correct the record. If you never correct the record, your agreement stands. That's how that works. Cause you've got it. You've got an obligation to correct the record. I also think he, from this article, it sounds like he does

absolutely believe this. Well, I mean, isn't this on brand with all the other shit he said about parenting? It is 100 percent all the other stuff you've said. So like if this rhymes with all the other shit you said, yeah, and

this is the one thing that makes your base upset because they happen to be post menopausal females. Right. Then you're gone. Then you got a backpedal on the shit? Fuck you, dude. You know, you've talked about how people need to find their worth in shitting out kids. And if you can't shit out kids, then you're a bad person.

And you say that because you want women to have more kids so they're not in the workplace. That also means that you want post-menopausal women out of the workplace too, dude. It's the same reason. You're not fooling anybody. And look at the example that he gives and how great it is. There's a tenured PhD professor leaving her work to take care of the kiddo.

Now, look, do what you wanna do for your family. However anybody wants to structure their life, their family, that's all up to them. But I think it is absolutely on brand for him to be like, yeah, that was never really her place anyway. She was never supposed to be in that high of a position anyway. That's not for women.

You're not wrong, you're not wrong. Like this all feels on brand. And I think what we were doing before was just kind of bending over and breaking our own backs to sort of suppose the possibility of doubt. But there's really no reason to think that JD Vance with the track record of all of the other things that he says and believes about women and their subservient, subjugated role in society as breeding factories, he's made this very clear. There is no reason to believe that he has a different, more enlightened view of women

who just happen to be a little older. Yeah. I also think it's really telling that in this story, it's great that his wife got to go back to work. Yeah. Right? It was like, yeah. It benefits his family.

Sure. Yeah. He gets the extra paycheck into the old family kitty, right? So like like it's okay for his wife to go back to work because somebody else will come out of the workforce, a woman and take her place. And also just like think about these two creepy dudes talking about what the purpose of a post menopausal. Oh my God, I know dude. Like just think about those, those words in that

order and how they're spoken, right? Just think about just that phrase, the post menopausal female. Think about how much you're othering people just by saying those words in that order. Dude, I am in a place, especially online and other places, where I can't even hear people say female and male. As soon as there's somebody like,

oh, I was talking to a female and I'm like, you're a bad person. You're a weirdo. I already don't trust everything you've ever said in Will Say Now. You're a fucking weirdo. You were talking to a woman, man, or like a guy. Like use real, like use the words people use.

What the fuck is this? It's like they don't get in cars, they get in vehicles. They don't talk to girls. They talk to females There's like this insane language that they're all like sort of adopting that has this false and intentional Specificity that's like you're being like lectured by I don't know. It's like it's like everything is a mansplain Everything is like here. Let me tell you what the what the purpose of this category of human beings for and I'm like, how would you never talk again? I never want to hear you what I what I what I'd love to see is like not just JD Vance to catch a bunch of shit But whoever was fucking interviewing him catch a bunch of shit. Fuck. Yeah, dude. Fuck absolutely

Before we end today time. I want to talk about something that we I Got wrong on a previous show. Last week, we covered a story where we talked about how Donald Trump's voice sounded strange on a call with Elon Musk. We were having a conversation, and we talked about how Donald Trump's voice sounded really strange on this call,

and I wasn't sure how it could possibly be changed. I don't know that it's possible that it would, like certain effects don't feel like they would change that. Felt like it was either a software problem or it was on the user end, right? Where Donald Trump maybe had a lisp of some sort. He was making very hard lispy sounds, and it sounded strange.

When you listen to it, it sounded super strange. And so I thought it was either user or it was something wrong with the software. Well, I got a call this week on our podcast. We received a voicemail message and someone said that if a DSer is turned up really loud, it can actually make that, it can cut so much of the S off that it cuts it completely

off and it makes it sound like a list instead. Wait, a de-esser? A de-esser. So, an S, a de-esser makes it so it softens your S's and lots of times it'll be put on in post where you don't hear it with your normal ear, but it's a little annoying when you're listening to something in speakers because those tweeters can sometimes be a little more jarring than just someone's voice. And so they'll take the S's down a little bit on the sound that you're making, the words that you're making, the S's will be a little softer. And so it essentially cuts that frequency so that it's not as harsh. And you can turn it up too high and it'll give it

this artifact where it sounds like you're lisping. But we, Tom and I, were able to create this artifact this week by accident. So we had a call, Tom and I had a business call with another party. And Tom was busy and set his phone on his computer. Now we were talking through Zoom, but he was using his iPhone,

and now Donald Trump also uses an iPhone, and it was set on your computer away from you, and Tom was speaking, and he 100% had the exact same artifact in his voice for the entire conversation. So we were able to recreate this with just an iPhone and Zoom. Yeah, by accident. So it's possible, by accident. So it's possible that it's just the mixture of the,

it could be just an iPhone problem when it's connecting through an internet thing. Maybe it's cutting bandwidth while it's on a wifi, who knows? Right. But there is, we were able to create it this week. So it might be that it wasn't Elon's problem with less developers making a shitty product. And it wasn't Trump's dentures falling out of his mouth. It was

the equipment that was there and maybe just because the way the iPhone interacts with internet stuff. So I wanted to correct us because I was able to create that this week without any help. Yeah, that's really funny. Did Cecil called me after the call or I called you to talk about the call. And you were like, dude, you had a terrible, like you had the Trump list. He had the Trump list. Yeah. It was really pronounced, like really pronounced.

That's so crazy. And it was, but it, but it, but we were able to recreate it. So I want to, I want to correct that story and say, whatever I said on that story, probably I would just throw it out. I would just throw that out. It probably wasn't, it wasn't Elon and it probably wasn't Trump. It almost certainly was I think how the iPhone interacted with the internet. It's crazy. All right. That's going to wrap it up for this week. We're going to be back with a funny

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