Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 794: End the Filibuster and the Electoral College

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:06 It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome mat. Today is Thursday, September the 26th. See, nobody has tried to kill any major presidential candidate in the last seven days. And that's because we raised $86,000 We did. For Humanist for Harris over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:01:28 God damn guys. For everybody that showed up, there was about a thousand people that showed up, which is great to our live stream. At peak it was like 1100 people showed up. That's outstanding. It was great. It was great to see.
Starting point is 00:01:40 We had a great turnout, we had a lot of fun. We read the opening salvo, I think it would be called, to Project 2025, citation needed style. Great time. It turned out to be a great time. It's a little over two hours long. It's on our YouTube page. If you want to check it out and watch it, you can go to our YouTube page. You have to search for live stuff. So if you go there, at the top, they have all those tabs. Well, at the top, they have live. It'll say live. And so you click on the live videos or whatever it tabs. Well, at the top they have live. It'll say live. And so you click on the live videos or whatever it is. I think that, I'm pretty sure it's live as the tag number,
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Starting point is 00:02:26 that night I downloaded it and immediately posted it for our patrons. For the audio. For the audience. That's great. For both audio and the video, I posted on both those sites. So the video is available for patrons. You don't have to go to YouTube. For both those and same thing with audio, you could just listen to it if you want just
Starting point is 00:02:42 the audio. And just as importantly, that site to donate is still open. It's still open. It's still open. That site will stay open. So as we go forward, if you are able to and compelled to donate, that site continues to operate. $86,000 is a huge outpouring of support.
Starting point is 00:03:01 There's very little else that we can do that could matter this much, right? Like talking to these microphones matters, raising awareness, talking about this stuff, making noise, encouraging, cajoling, everything we can do to get people to go out and to vote. I think that stuff does matter. I really do. Me asking Taylor Swift,
Starting point is 00:03:18 please, will you endorse Kamala Harris? I think that may have, I was glad she did that for me. I'm just saying, like we're tight like that, there's no bad blood. We're tight. So like, you know, she was nice enough, you know. Think that might've made a difference, but the $86,000, money's everything, man.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Money's everything. It's a big deal, man. They're gonna be able to use that money. And like, there's been a lot of these smaller donation drives. She's made a lot of money doing this to her campaign and that's gonna help drive commercials. It helps pay for signs, it helps pay for staffers,
Starting point is 00:03:53 it helps pay for people who are gonna call people on the phone or walk door to door or put mailers in the mailing, mail those things out. All that stuff costs money. Holding a rally, because she actually pays her bills. And I will say, yeah. And I will say this too. I, like Tom, wish that this was not a thing
Starting point is 00:04:11 that we had to do. I wish that we could have taken that money and put it to something else and given it somewhere else. I wish we could have done that. But we figured that a really good use for that money to help protect a bunch more people is to make sure that the US government we figured that a really good use for that money to help protect a bunch more people is to make sure that the US government is involved in that protection.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Because if the US government is now the adversary, you need to pay a hell of a lot more in charity money than what we raised this weekend. Fuck yeah, fuck yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, that's exactly right. I would rather raise $86,000 in now and get Harris installed than to have to have another abortion fundraiser, man.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Another horror, you know? You're not wrong. Like the horror that that was and the events that it directly led to that outcome. Yeah. Right? I don't wanna do that again. Not because I wasn't proud of our audience. I'm intensely proud of our audience,
Starting point is 00:05:04 but I'm fucking heartbroken that it had to happen. And the reason it had to happen is because the United States government was our adversary. That's exactly right. I don't know who designed this junk. Mechanics are all wrong. This story is from the New York Times. Republicans Electoral College Edge once seen as ironclad looks to be fading. That's good news.
Starting point is 00:05:24 This is good news. So this was an interesting article. I think it was just came out today in the New York Times. And we've talked a lot on this show about the Electoral College, which I wanna say at the outset. I don't care that the Electoral College edge is fading. It is a bad system. It should be abolished.
Starting point is 00:05:44 It should be abolished. But what this is really describing is that, you know, it used to be the case and it's been the case in several elections in a row that the popular vote did not necessarily lead or indicate the Electoral College vote. And now those numbers are getting closer and closer back into alignment. It is only sane to have a system that actually elects who most of the people vote for. No other system is sane. There is no possible way that you should be able to win the presidency and lose the popular vote. That should be literally impossible. I agree with you. And one of the arguments against the removal of the electoral college is people will often say, what I don't want to have happen is I don't wanna have
Starting point is 00:06:31 six or seven population centers across the country be the ones that decide this election. I don't wanna have these giant million people cities, million, two million, three million, when it comes to New York, what is it, 12 million or something like that. Millions and millions of people, there's, I don't know how many people, 10 million live in metropolitan area of Chicago, you know, Dallas, LA,
Starting point is 00:06:56 lots of these different places have these big population centers and they don't want to have these few population centers make those decisions. But what you're doing is you're saying, I would much rather have these few population centers, states make these decisions. Because that's what it comes down to. It comes down to these four or five swing states, six or seven swing states. There are some states that don't have any push. And one of the reasons why this is working and why maybe
Starting point is 00:07:28 his popular vote isn't changing very much is that he's not making any ground in these swing states. He's only making ground when he makes ground in places where it will not win him the vote. He's not, if he makes ground in New York City, who the fuck cares? It's literally a throwaway vote for him. It doesn't matter. That vote is not gonna count because of the electoral college system. Again, this is bad for him too,
Starting point is 00:07:55 because he's now voting for these people that are voting in New York. You gotta throw all those out. It doesn't even matter. Every single vote that's not a winner vote gets thrown out in these places. So you're essentially erasing what could be an enormous following for him is suddenly erased. I want to read really quickly just a paragraph from this. And just so you can hear how confusing this is. The simplest way to measure the advantage
Starting point is 00:08:21 in the electoral college is to take the difference between the national popular vote and the vote in the tipping point state, the state that puts the candidate over the top in the electoral college. Right now, presidents Harris leads the pardon me right now, vice president Harris is my is my wishful thinking. Can you say it again? Right now, almost there, buddy. Vice president Harris leads the polling in a national vote by 2.2, 2.6 percentage points and leads Wisconsin, the current tipping point state by 1.8 points, which makes Mr. Trump advantage less
Starting point is 00:08:54 than a point. Why do I feel like the person trying to sell me electoral college is also trying to sell me a car out of the same overcoat? Yeah, dude. Like I feel like I'm getting sold a mortgage by cart gauge mortgage. What the fuck is happening? Why is the system so complicated that I have to look to one state to decide whether or not somebody is going to be the next president? Shouldn't I be able to look at the temperature of the entire nation and be like, no, she's up? Yeah. I mean, yeah, you're, you're, I want to, I want to go back and yes, and a point that you made, because I think it's, it's exactly right. And I just want to add something to it. So the
Starting point is 00:09:34 fear of the, the electoral college apologists will say to your point, look, I don't want the fate of the country to rest on California, New York, Illinois, and Texas. And instead what we have is a system that by default then says the fate of the country instead rests on Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, Michigan, North Carolina, you know, Nevada, Florida. Yeah, because Florida went, Barack Obama twice.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Right. So, so, so instead it rests on these other states, but it's even worse because it rests on states where less people live. Yeah. Yeah. So we're not just trading out a handful of states are going to actually be more powerful than the other handful of states. We already have that. We're never not going to have that. We don't have a perfectly evenly distributed populace. We will never have that. Some states will always have more power, either more Electoral College power
Starting point is 00:10:28 or more popular vote power. We're never getting away from that. But if we choose the Electoral College vote power, what we're doing is saying, it's the same number, a small number of states that matter and it's less people that matter. That's fucking insane. Why wouldn't you want a system where most of the
Starting point is 00:10:46 people are made happy by the choice that they make? It's also insane to be like, well, I mean, we don't want like where most of the people are to matter more. Yeah, because if we have policies that benefit those people more than more people benefit, that's how the majority of things work. Why would we want a tyranny of the minority? That's crazy. That's what you have, but I think, you know, like I understand people who get upset and say, well, I don't want them to forget
Starting point is 00:11:13 about the country people or whatever. And I get that, I understand that, right? I do understand that. And I think that that's up to your states to try to make sure that they take care of you as best they can, because you're part of like, if we're saying states matter, then your state should be somebody who's stepping up to the bat to make sure that the rural areas of their state are taking care of just as much, if not more than the places that are more populous.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And in fact, you know, when you think about the way that the taxes are distributed, even in Illinois, those people who complain about Chicago, who live in the southern part of the state, they complain that Chicago decides all this stuff that happens, Chicago also pays for everything, right? So like, again, you're not putting a lot into the kitty, and yet you're complaining constantly, and you're getting your whim very often.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Yeah, man. Look at how many different fucking Republican Congress people come from Illinois. Yeah. And I looked this up the other day because I was curious about it after I read this article. I think it was today or yesterday, but it's something like it's I don't, I'm not going to call you an exact number because I don't remember the exact number. I looked it up. I was like, I wonder if most people in America live in cities or if most people live. And it's actually like 60 40.
Starting point is 00:12:28 So like, yeah, it's most, but like you're not winning an election, not appealing to you have to, you have to appeal to those. I don't think actually that I actually think the system would be more fair for everyone. Right now we have a system that's unfair for everyone. It really is like it's not fair even by any. There's no stretch in the imagination where you'd be like, yeah, you know the most powerful fucking state in the country should be Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Pennsylvania? You can't even put streetlights on your highways. What the fuck are you talking, I've driven through all of Pennsylvania. There's nothing that I want in the, that that state is the most powerful state in this country. That state should be excised from this country There's there's your sandwich is terrible
Starting point is 00:13:09 There's five or six places in the fucking nation that are literally deciding They're the ones with their hands on the fucking wheel I know it's ridiculous, and they're like five or six places in this country, Michigan It's all trees the thing is though the thing is though if you could flip fucking, Texas. Michigan, it's all trees. The thing is though, the thing is though, if you could flip fucking Texas, it's over. Texas is done deal. It's over. Florida, it's over. And Texas is an interesting example.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Now I guess I know people will write in and say it's the size of Texas that makes this possible. I fucking know that. But what's really interesting about Texas is that Texas has been red for a really long time, even though all of the urban centers in Texas, all of them are blue. Dallas is blue, Houston's blue, all the big urban centers.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Who was the last time Texas went blue? I don't know. I don't know. Make a guess. Oh God. Some time in the 70s? That's exactly right. I would guess in the 70s?
Starting point is 00:13:59 Yeah, that's exactly right. Jimmy Carter. Okay. Last time they went blue was Jimmy Carter. Yeah, so almost 50 years. Yeah, it's a long time. It's a long, long, long time. 76. 76 Okay. Last time they went blue was Jimmy Carter. Yeah. So almost 50 years. Yeah It's a long time. It's a long long time 76 was the last time they were blue but I think I think Texas is interesting because they are kind of a demonstration that you can actually have
Starting point is 00:14:15 an election be won by the rural areas Even though all of the urban areas are blue, right? So like it's kind of a great example of, no, you cannot win an election without appealing to the rural voter. You can't. How do I know it?
Starting point is 00:14:31 Look at Texas. Why is it red? Every urban center is blue, state is still red. Because you have to appeal. In a big enough space, those people aggregate in a way that matters. They will still aggregate in a way that matters. We've built a system that's unfair for everyone.
Starting point is 00:14:45 It's a terrible system. I looked up several of the, what I thought would be the most red or blue static states and how long they've been that way. And I was actually surprised. Texas was the longest one. The other ones, most of them were in the eighties, were the last time that they were that color. So California was were in the eighties, were the last time that they were that color. So California was red in the eighties. Yeah, California, well, last time they were red was with George Herbert Walker Bush. So that's Bush the elder in 88, they went red.
Starting point is 00:15:16 That I think if I'm not mistaken, that was a landslide election. Yeah, and then Barack Obama with Florida. So that was the most recent one was Florida was the most recent one. And Florida is like the third most populous state in our country. So, you know, like, is it Yeah, it's the third most I think it's the third most it might be the third most populous state 22 million people live there on purpose. Yeah. And then New York last time it was read was Reagan. So but it was the it was the second Reagan term, but they voted
Starting point is 00:15:45 for Dukakis in the Bush. Did they really? Yes. They went for Dukakis. And then Illinois last time it was red was again, George Herbert Walker Bush. After that were blue. I really, if I remember that election, that was a landslide. The second one was not cause he lost to Clinton. But yeah, and Perot. Perot did steal a lot of... Perot stole that election.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Well, read his lips. No new taxes. Here's some new taxes. It blew his shit up. I'm being persecuted by a vigilante mob. Alright, this story is from Yahoo News. Trump vows to create a task force that combats anti-Christian bias if re-elected.
Starting point is 00:16:25 So this was as part of like a fucking prayer hoedown or whatever that he did? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A conversation, one of those prayer calls. They do this a lot where they have somebody on and they talk to them, so. And like, just to be very clear, what this means when they say he's gonna have a task force
Starting point is 00:16:42 that combats anti-Christian bias, what they really mean is that they are gonna put together a task force that prioritizes and centers Christianity in all forms of government to the exclusion of the non-religious and all other religions in America and create a de facto theocracy. That's really what that means. That's pretty much it.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And what I think is great about this article too, is they mention, you know, the great replacement theory isn't just racist. It also has to it a Christian component, right? When you hear people like Nick Fuentes talk, I don't know if you remember this, but Nick Fuentes was attacking JD Vance and Nick Fuentes was attacking JD Vance by saying something like, I can't believe he's going to marry outside of his race. And then also does he have the, what kind of ethics does he have if he doesn't marry Christian? Right? That stuff is embedded. Right? So it's not just the great replacement theory when it comes to, you know, removing or
Starting point is 00:17:41 not centering whites anymore. It's also like you just said, not centering their religion anymore. And that's a big part of this. And that's something that they brought up in this article that I liked quite a bit. And really genuinely, you have to remember too that they're gonna use this Christian centering to attack things that they can try to attack using religion. And LGBTQ plus rights are the first thing that go
Starting point is 00:18:07 because that is one of those things that a lot of these people really don't wanna see on the main in society. So they're gonna go out of the way. And every single one of these churches that Trump sort of seems to ally himself with is crazy LGBTQ plus, they're anti that. They don't like those people at all.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And they wanna try to strip as many rights away from them as possible. And so, again, I know that there are some, for some reason there are supporters of Trump that are gay or that, I don't know if they're trans people but there might be, but genuinely, that is so voting against your own interests. It really could be, it would be hard to top that.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I will say this now. I fully believe, fully believe, I don't even feel like this is even a prediction. I just believe this to be true, that if Trump wins the next election, without a doubt, I think that the Oberfeld decision will be reversed and I think same-sex marriage will fall. I think that might still happen anyway.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I think with Trump in power, I think it is certain to, I think 100% certain to happen. I'm not sure that we'll see anti-miscegenation laws come back, I'm not sure that we'll see a rollback on that. That I'm a little more dubious of, but I am a hundred percent confident. Like I just feel like it's fucking like ironclad. I put my next two paychecks on it. The stuff that they've already rolled back,
Starting point is 00:19:36 you can see that they're trying to fix some of the things that happened in the last 20 years and what they figure was a liberal court gone wrong. So they are going to try to fix a lot of those things that they think are in a very Christian centering way. Absolutely white Christian nationalist centering way. Yeah, we must have a lot of abandonment issues. Reality isn't father knows best anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:58 It's a kick in the face on a Saturday night with a steel toe grab Kodiak work boot. It starts from independent Trump claims audience went crazy for him at his debate with Harris. But there was no audience. Can you read what he says here? Because I want to just double check just to make sure that that is exactly what he's saying. He said they didn't correct her once and they corrected me everything I said, practically, I think, nine or 11 times. And the audience went those absolutely
Starting point is 00:20:25 they went crazy. He said, what went crazy for what though? I don't understand what he's even talking about. They did not first of all, there's no correct him nine to 11 times. They corrected him three times. Yeah. And there was three corrections. Yeah. And then there's no audience. There was no audience to go crazy. What is went crazy for what though? Like like in support of him, maybe? I think what he's trying to suggest- In support of him or support of her? I think they're trying, I think what he's trying to say is that the audience that loves him,
Starting point is 00:20:53 because everybody loves him- Oh, okay, all right. He gets, he gets fact-checked in the moment by the moderators, and the audience is like, boo, nerd, boo! But of course, that's just like literally impossible without a fucking audience to be there. Imagine if Biden were to have said this. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:11 This would be literal, there would be seven New York Times op-ed pieces saying we need to invoke the 25th Amendment. Why, dude, can we talk for a minute? Why the fuck is the media sane washing this bullshit constantly? We are not calling him out for any of the same shit. Like if this hate works out, if Biden had said this, it'd be like, oh, he's too old. He doesn't know
Starting point is 00:21:34 what's happening. They need to take his power away. We need to strip him of his office. They would say that. This guy says this and he says constantly says just wildly factually inaccurate, obvious, reality-defying bullshit. And it's just like, it doesn't, nobody's paying attention. Nobody's calling this like the insane ramblings of a delusional fuckwit, which is what it is. Exactly what it is, yeah. What is happening? I'm asking honestly, I don't understand why is the media continuing to forego their responsibility to hold truth to power? They're not doing it when it comes to Trump
Starting point is 00:22:13 in this really exclusive way. I think, you know, if you're gonna think about this as a way to think about the dark, nefarious side of human beings. What you ascribe to them is that they choose to do this because if it's a race, it sells more papers. If it's not a race, they don't have a lot to talk about for the next 50 days.
Starting point is 00:22:38 So if they say in Washington, then there's still a race. If they treat him the way they treated Biden, then there is no race, because suddenly his diehard numbers will just not show up. They're gonna be like, this guy's fucking crazy. So there's nothing to talk about. That's if you're ascribing the most cynical view of humanity. I mean, that's genuinely, if you're ascribing the most cynical view of humanity.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I mean, that's genuinely, if you're ascribing the most cynical view, then that's what it is. I don't know if that's true. I don't know the operation of their mind. I don't know why when they sit around an editorial desk or an editorial table at office, doing an editorial meeting, they have these conversations and say,
Starting point is 00:23:23 let's not talk about this the same way we talked about Biden. But you can't point out, you have to point out that they have kid gloves when it comes to him and they fucking had boxing gloves when it came to Biden. For real, man. Like this is a guy who's talking about fucking like batteries electrocuting you and sharks eating you and fucking insane shit. And don't get me wrong, they mention it because we hear about it. So they do mention it, right?
Starting point is 00:23:46 They don't mention it in a way that judges right like they're they they mention in a way that is almost like well Here's another silly little gaff. Here's a little goof and you're like, wait a minute. Wait a fucking minute He doesn't seem in his right mind Shouldn't that worry everybody? Shouldn't we all be really concerned? Like why is it that like he's only three or four years younger than Biden? Shouldn't that worry everybody? Shouldn't we all be really concerned? Why is it that he's only three or four years younger than Biden? Everybody is so worried about Biden's advanced age and the cognitive decline. Here's a guy saying increasingly strange shit.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Increasingly strange shit. Nobody's talking about his age. Nobody's talking about his cognitive decline. It's not like at the forefront of everything. If a Democrat said the same shit, man, they would be right over the coals. This guy says this crazy ass shit and it's like, yeah, but he's always played fast and loose with reality.
Starting point is 00:24:34 And you're like, my God, do you hear you? That shouldn't be something you're good on. Right. Like fast and loose with reality? I feel like maybe. Here's the nuclear football sir maybe we shouldn't do that though holy fuck what the fuck are we doing man god we like to dance with the apocalypse don't we fucking just love to
Starting point is 00:24:56 like we're getting we're playing fucking just the tip I'll tell you man fucking Armageddon with this shit. I don't know if that's, like, I don't know if that's what their motivations are. I don't know, I can't tell you. I know. I can't tell you. But if that's what it is, fuck them forever. Dude, for real. If that's what it is, fuck them forever.
Starting point is 00:25:12 For real. Ferris, we better try something else. This isn't working. This story comes from Wisconsin Public Radio. Kamala Harris tells WPR she supports eliminating the filibuster to restore abortion rights. Fucking good. Fucking get rid of that filibuster.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I was thinking about this earlier today when I was reading this story. I'm so fucking sick to death of the dysfunctional goddamn Congress and Senate that we have. They can't find their ass with both hands. They don't pass a fucking bill to save their lives. If the filibuster is this constant threat that they don't even have to enact in order to hang over the heads and say, oh, nothing happens unless we get 60 fucking people to gather together and to jerk each other off at just the right speed with just the right grip strength. Get the fuck out of here. This is why we never get anything done.
Starting point is 00:26:06 We need to get things done. And like, I fully concede that that is gonna come back and burn me when the guys that I don't wanna be in power are in power. But I kinda just wanna function in government. You know, out of curiosity, I went and looked up sort of the history of the filibuster. And really our country did not use it very much
Starting point is 00:26:27 until the 1970s, so it really started gaining a lot more The filibuster started coming in much more during the civil rights era That's when people were starting to use it more and more and yikes and it was because they didn't want to give civil rights It was those southern Democrats who were, you know, I know that there's people who love to point this out and be like, see the Democrats? And you're like, yeah, where are they now?
Starting point is 00:26:50 What party are they in now? Who cares what people get? Yeah, what party would they be in now? Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, what party? Who had the Southern Democrats strategy? Was that Nixon who did that? A Republican who went after those votes?
Starting point is 00:27:03 In any case, the Democrats at the time, they caused a big stink and they kept on doing filibusters. So they had to put in a rule that allowed them to sort of get around it. And what they did was they sort of made it so that you could have two pieces of business happening at the same time. So one piece of business could be going on and if somebody's filibustering, I can still maneuver around them. And they're not stopping the Senate completely. Nothing grinds to a halt.
Starting point is 00:27:28 We can still maneuver and get around them, which is why you don't see, I think the people doing the big filibuster, you know, Mr. Smith going to Washington where you don't see like, you don't see Mitch McConnell with fucking gout legs out there, standing up there trying to fucking try to figure this out for many, many hours. He doesn't have to, right? The threat of that sort of thing sort of appears and they do this sort of what they call a silent filibuster in the seventies. That's when they sort of introduced
Starting point is 00:27:54 this silent filibuster, which is sort of just the threat of filibuster if you do this. But what it does is it favors the conservatives because conservatives don't want to do anything. They want to conserve, they want to stop things from happening. So this 100% favors them. And I know people are going to say what you said earlier, which is it's going to bite me in the ass, which is what happened with judicial appointments, right? So judicial appointments, there was a, you needed a certain number of people in order to bring these judicial appointments to the floor.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Well, they weren't allowing it during Obama's term. They weren't allowing them to do it. They were like, no, we're just not gonna let you, they just basically broke government. And then you had to just break the system so that you could actually use government how it should work. Because they were like, we'll just wait Obama out.
Starting point is 00:28:37 We'll have just a bunch of vacancies and then we'll put who we want in. But fuck Obama, we're never gonna put any of his judges in. And that's not an exaggeration. Mitch McConnell said that. I just want to like let the audience know. Mitch McConnell said it out loud. Everything you just said, he said out loud, we are going to make it impossible for him to get anything done. And so what they did was they had to get rid of and they voted to get rid of the federal justice appointment, like, you know, vote count that they needed to get it started,
Starting point is 00:29:08 but they left the Supreme Court one there. They said, we're still gonna leave the same level for the Supreme Court. Well, as soon as that federal one was gone, the Republicans got into power, and when they did, they took the Supreme Court one out. So I know a lot of people wanna blame this on the Democrats, but the Republicans created a toxic system that then forced people in order to do something.
Starting point is 00:29:30 They had to do something about it to get around it. And then they use that as an excuse to say it's your fault. You're the one who did this. Stop hitting yourself. Stop blaming it on the Democrats when it's not their fault at all. And this is again, another thing they're creating a toxic environment that allows for no legislation to even get talked about. This is the thing that people don't understand when they don't understand the filibuster. You can't even introduce the bill. You can't even say, well, let's have a debate on, we're going to do, you know, gay marriage protection across the country or something. We're going to do that right now, let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:30:05 No, we won't even fucking talk about it. We can't even let it hit the, so what you're doing is creating a dysfunctional government and then there needs to be some remedy to that. And then when the remedy gets, then they're gonna blame it on the Democrats because they're gonna say, well, you're the one who found the remedy for it.
Starting point is 00:30:20 But they're never blaming the people who created the problem. Right, right, yeah. Look, I fully recognize that we're gonna get things through the system that I don't wanna seek it through the system. Okay, all right, I'm game for that. Let's have a functioning government.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And when I say functioning, meaning a government that passes laws and legislation. A government that can bring something, to your point, to the fucking floor and actually pass and demand a vote on it. Let's get people on fucking record. There's a whole procedural system which allows these fuckers to avoid even going on record voting against things that are by and large wildly popular.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Most of the stuff when you go out on the street and you talk to people, it doesn't matter how they poll, most people want abortion. Most people. It's not close. It's not like, oh, it's 5149. It's not like that. It's overwhelming. Like by American standards, political standards, it's overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Plus, yeah, this is a big, like this is a big plurality. The Affordable Care Act was a great example. When people went out and said, hey, what do you think about these key elements in the Affordable, we didn't call it the Affordable Care Act. What do you think about being able to stay in your parents' insurance until you're 26? What do you think about eliminating
Starting point is 00:31:35 the pre-existing condition exception for private insurance companies? What do you think about creating a marketplace where individuals who aren't employed with a traditional employer can buy insurance through a marketplace at package rates or group rates. Everybody was like, sounds great. They're like, it's called the Affordable Care Act. I hate it. I hate it. Yeah. Enough, enough. We need to get things through. We need a government that functions. We need to get bills placed. We need to get people
Starting point is 00:32:01 on record voting for stuff. We need to be able to look at our senators. It used to be when I was growing up that what we were taught was look at the voting records of the people that you are considering voting for. Look at their voting records. That's kind of a shit way, honestly. It's a shitty way now because the only thing that comes is, is budgetary stuff. Yeah. You, it's so hard to look at the voting records because so much stuff never makes it to the
Starting point is 00:32:24 floor to be voted on. We don't really get a sense of who these people are and what their values are and what drives their voting because we have a system that prevents them from ever being able to even debate something. Enough's enough. The government should function. It should just function. Fuck the filibuster.
Starting point is 00:32:43 That's a bad thing. It's a bad, stupid system. Also, I totally agree because you're saying, I want to just get you on record. Just get on record. And, you know, I know that there's going to be people out there and there's a guy who I game with who has said multiple times the Democrats are going to fuck themselves that they remove this filibuster. And I disagree.
Starting point is 00:33:02 What I think is going to happen is, is in these places across the country and these, all these places across the country, when something like abortion comes up and let's say, let's just say the Republicans get an office, let's say they flip both houses. Let's say they have enough votes where they can bring this stuff up and then they can win the vote. Let's say they put in a national abortion ban. Yeah. Let me tell you, that's a voting record you can look at. Yeah, man. And you'll know that your Senator voted against this.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I'll know if Dick Durbin voted against or for it. I'll know if Tammy Duckworth voted against or for it. Yeah. Right? Y'all know these people and you'll know what they did. And that, I think, changes their perspective on whether or not they're going to do it in the future.
Starting point is 00:33:46 They might walk away from it. They might say, you know what? I'm not going to go on record for that. I'll say it on a campaign stop all day that I'm pro-life. But the moment I got to put my name on that, no hard pass. It creates political transparency, which we don't have because we don't allow people. They do. They do this bullshit where they don't allow it to go to the floor. It doesn't get debated. It doesn't go up for vote. There's no political transparency. There's obfuscation. We don't know. We don't get to know.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Force them to take a position. And if they don't like it, they can get a different job. Nobody said you have to work here, bitch. Also you begged for that job Yeah, also none of those none of those Republicans will reinstate it No, none of what's not gonna happen is none of them and taken down There is literally no way that those reput the Republicans if they win and win they will not put it back in no because it would be fantastically unpopular popular. Hello everybody. It's a quarter after one. I'm home and I leave Lori now. Now I might be sleeping, but you shouldn't be sleeping
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Starting point is 00:36:15 Huh? Yeah. Code Glory. The internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. This is from wtrf.com. Ohio sheriff who told public to write down the address of Harris supporters says those individuals with liberal policies have to accept responsibility for their actions. Let me read you what he wrote on his Facebook page. And before I read you what he wrote, because he then then I'm going me read you what he wrote on his Facebook page. And before I read you what he wrote, cause then I'm gonna read you what he said
Starting point is 00:37:08 after he got in trouble for it. He wrote this, not on his personal page. He wrote this on his fucking public facing work page where he identifies himself with his title as sheriff. Also, Tom's gonna read what he wrote and what he wrote is hurtful towards immigrants, but Tom's reading it verbatim. Yeah, I'm just reading what someone else wrote.
Starting point is 00:37:30 These are not my views. Trigger warning if these are words that are upsetting for you. I say write down all the addresses of the people who had her signs in their yards. So when the illegal human locusts, which she supports, need places to live, we'll already have the addresses of their new families who supported their
Starting point is 00:37:50 arrival. So that didn't go well for him. He also called Harris a flip-flopping laughing hyena. I hate that they, that they, none of these people have had a bit of joy in their life. I know. So they think laughing is weird. Whenever they- there's so many people who post pictures of her laughing, and I think, sh- good!
Starting point is 00:38:11 She should laugh! What is wrong with- that's a human emotion, man! Okay, good. And, huh, whatever makes sense! Ha ha ha! Whatever makes sense!
Starting point is 00:38:20 Ha ha ha! Okay, good! Ha ha ha! That's a fucking guy. He's like a guy, pull something on the back okay good What would he even sound like I can't even that dog you imagine mullet haircut you ever heard Donald Trump laugh No, what could he sound like? Here's the thing though? Right could that isn't that isn't that abnormal wait a minute, no, no. I don't want you to continue on that thought. Isn't that really abnormal?
Starting point is 00:38:48 That's what I'm saying. How is it that he's been in the public sphere for this long and I've never heard him laugh? Not a single time. I've never heard him laugh. That's not normal. That's crazy. And he's been in the public sphere for decades because of his loser TV show he was on. That's right. Even trying to... I'm trying to picture him laughing. And I don't mean mean-spiritedly making fun of somebody, but like laughing because something was funny. I cannot picture it.
Starting point is 00:39:16 What would his face even look like? So that's- What grim rictus would he break out into? That's the thing though, is that, you know, they're gonna attack her for laughing and just doing a normal human thing. Right. And then their guy, you couldn't point to a single time
Starting point is 00:39:34 he did a human thing. No, like, your candidate, fucking Trump, cannot hold his own wife's hand. Like he can't do anything normal. Everything he does is fucking weird. He stares at the fucking eclipse. Like I'm not even talking about his political shit. Just like when you watch that guy interact
Starting point is 00:39:55 with other people, it is a horror show. Watching him shake hands with world leaders makes me so embarrassed I wanna want to fly over and apologize Like I just say oh my god. I'm so sorry. Did you yank your arm? Oh my god That's not how we do that. We're just like come over here. I'll make you dinner gigantic ass. He's a piece of shit That's not a power play. We don't I know it didn't work. It's that's nothing nobody Nobody cares. It's nothing. Yeah. Yeah, it didn't work. All right. So this sheriff on his fucking sheriff page wrote this horrible shit. Then it didn't go well and he doesn't really apologize. No, no.
Starting point is 00:40:31 What he does is he bitches. He says, as the chief law enforcement officer of Portage County, I've sworn to protect all citizens of my County. Recently I placed a post on my personal Facebook page. That's not true. It was not on my personal Facebook page. That's not true. It was not on his personal Facebook page. It was on the page of the public figure, Sheriff Bruce D. Zukowski. That is where it was.
Starting point is 00:40:54 He don't even understand the fucking internet. You dumb piece of shit. All right. On his personal. I typed it into the search bar. And yeah. And then he says that may have been a little misrepresented question mark. There's literally no way to misunderstand. You can't call immigrants locusts and then
Starting point is 00:41:12 be like, well, I just come on. That's a, there's a lot of ways to interpret that. All right, look, if you're going to read this as uncharitably as possible when I referred to immigrants as a plague of resource sucking vermin. My cohost on lawful assembly, he's a pacifist. He would fucking jaw this guy for saying that. I mean, like it is the most offensive thing you could possibly say. It's the most offensive thing. May have been misinterpreted as the elected sheriff do have a first amendment, right? As do all, I think he's trying to say,
Starting point is 00:41:50 I do do have a first amendment, right? Do do has, okay, good. Whatever makes sense. Do have a first amendment, right? As do all citizens. If the citizens of Portage County want to elect it, what you're talking about here. So if the citizens of Portage County want to elect an individual has supported open borders, which I've personally visited twice, dude, you're the sheriff in Ohio. So crazy. Nobody gives a fuck about our Southern border is the sheriff of Ohio. That's not your fucking thing, dude. You don't have like, I'm not saying nobody gives a fuck. I'm just saying that like, that's not your fucking responsibility.
Starting point is 00:42:30 It's like a hair out of your jurisdiction. Just a touch. Just a touch. Big guy little out of your jurisdiction and neglected to enforce the laws of our country, then that is their prerogative with elections. There are consequences. That being said, I believe that those who vote for individuals with liberal policies have to accept responsibility for their actions.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I'm a law man, not a politician. You're an elected guy. You even say in the thing that you're elected. That makes you a politician. I would also like to thank the overwhelming support I'm receiving from many people in Portage County who are afraid or not allowed to agree with me publicly. Who are also racists.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Yeah. You know, what a stupid fucking thing to say, right? Here's what it here's his argument in a nutshell. If you vote for liberal policies, then you need to bear the weight of those liberal policies only. We're not a we're not a nation, right? We don't all just, all of us decide that we're all gonna bear it.
Starting point is 00:43:30 No, if you vote for certain policies, then you're the one who has to bear it. Well, that's so fucking stupid. That's not how any of the rest of government works. If you didn't want a fucking road and they built a road, they don't just go to the other people and say, well, you gotta pay for it cause that guy didn't want it. road and they built a road. They don't just go to the other people and say, well, you got to pay for it cause that guy didn't want it. That's not how it works.
Starting point is 00:43:49 That's not how government works, you fucking fool. He doesn't even know how, this is an elected official, man. I know. You don't even know how any of it works. He so doesn't know how it works. He as an elected official doesn't think he's a politician. Bro, you had to run for that office and get elected that makes you a politician Just cuz you're a politician with a fucking bat utility belt
Starting point is 00:44:14 Doesn't change anything cuz you have fucking flashy lights on your government card doesn't mean you're not a politician Jesus Christ, but it's what makes me crazy is you just don't understand how fucking government works. Man, that's not if the government, right, all that represents all of us decides to enact a policy, then that policy is is bore by all of us. Yeah, man, it's not a la carte. Well, it's not a la carte. We're not sovereign citizens. Like what? Like that's not traveling. Yeah, I don't have to put like, like fucking, you don't need to see my license or whatever on the back of my car and just drive around. I wrote my name with my left hand in all caps or whatever. So now the government doesn't apply to me.
Starting point is 00:44:57 What a stupid ass. But seriously, this is the same thing that fucking Abbott thinks though, too. Oh, I know. Right? So all those places along the border that are federally funded, that get a lot of money, get a lot of federal money from us to make sure that they could accommodate new arrivals. No, we're going to send them to other places in this country that aren't prepared for them because they're the ones who need to bear this burden.
Starting point is 00:45:21 It's like, no, the United States needs to bear the burden. The entirety of the United States, singling out small communities that aren't ready for it doesn't prove your point. No, it's like, I don't get to just like pay the taxes that pay for the things I want. Yeah. Like, ah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:45:37 I didn't actually vote for that spending bill. So I'm not paying for that. No way I'm paying for that shit. No, I'm not doing it. That's Mirka film at 11 and Cuba was nuked off the face of the earth late this afternoon by president priest in retaliation for yesterday's evil attack on Orlando. This story comes from pro public. I EPA scientists said they were pressured to downplay harms from chemicals. A watchdog
Starting point is 00:46:00 found they were retaliated against. So administration was that? That was under the, let me think, Trump administration. Huh, crazy. Yeah. Yeah, so these guys, their job was to figure out whether these chemicals were problematic, whether they were causing, and they were, they were causing like fucking untold harms, right? Causing problems. It was like they was causing like fucking neurological problems and miscarriages and fucking birth defects and fucking like fish with three eyes
Starting point is 00:46:28 Like all kinds of crazy shit and so then they did this thing the scientists do which is they wrote down true things That the science said And their supervisors were like take it back Take it back. Take it back. Don't write down true science stuff. Take it back or you don't get cake in the break room. No one's signing your birthday card, Jim, until you take back the thing about miscarriages. Seriously, they were like disciplined. They were. I'm not making light of it, but genuinely they were disciplined for this. They were disciplined. They lost certain benefits. They were transferred out of jobs. This is retaliation from the government. And you know, this is again projecting
Starting point is 00:47:10 by the other side because this is what they do. So every time they've ever said they're going to weaponize the government against somebody, they've already done it. They've already done it. The same thing happened with the weaponizing of the justice department. He already tried to do it and did it when he was in office. The same thing happened with the weaponizing of the justice department. He already tried to do it and did it when he was in office. The same thing here. They would weaponize any department that they can to go after other people. That's what they do. That's how they operate.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Look at how Jeff Sessions attacked the border. Look at all these people that were part of that government that withheld shit during the pandemic. They didn't send supplies all over the place. They only sent it to select places that kissed his ass. This is a guy who 100% weaponized every department that he could. And if you look at Project 2025, any of it, it's all in there.
Starting point is 00:48:00 This blueprint to get rid of people like this is right in there. Yeah, because what project, we talked about this before, but I think it bears saying as many times as possible. Project 2025 is a blueprint to build the deep state they want to have. This is what they want. This is deep state shit, right? So this is like what a deep state is, is a bunch of bureaucrats who are controlling the levers of government at the fucking grassroots level. Here you've got some scientists who's like, Hey, my job is to find out if these chemicals
Starting point is 00:48:31 cause fucking fish with three eyes. Here's a fucking tank full of fucking three eyed fish. Turns out the answer is yes. And a bureaucrat says, let's suppress that knowledge. Let's suppress and lie. They call it compromise. You don't compromise on scientific truths, right? Things are either scientifically accurate or they're not.
Starting point is 00:48:49 This is not a debate we compromise on. It's either true, like this is the deep state operating to push forward an agenda that is politically driven. This is the real deep state. These guys are fucking, like Lady Dolf protests too much all day. Yeah. It is this constant Macbeth shit.
Starting point is 00:49:08 It's absolutely fucking exhausting. You've been hearing nothing but misinformation, propaganda, and outright lies. CBS News, Florida's new COVID booster guidance is straight up misinformation. That's CBS News just said that. Yeah. That's, that's not like a new republic or something. This is CBS News saying that this is literal misinformation. This is straight up.
Starting point is 00:49:28 I just got my COVID booster last week. I just got my COVID. Yeah. They didn't have Novavax. I had to get the other one. The MRNA. I drove to Costco to get the Novavax one because I brought my family because there's no side effects for us that we have had.
Starting point is 00:49:41 I wanted that one because I got sick from the other one again. Not bad. Yeah. But definitely felt a little cr got sick from the other one again, not bad. But definitely felt a little cruddy for two days. It's so weird. The Novavax one, you can only get around here in Costco. I don't know why. I went to the wrong place. They, and another thing that drove me crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:56 They have a big sign at my pharmacy that says no appointment needed to show up. But then you show up and it's literally 60 minutes of them filling out forms. Jesus Christ. That you show up and it's literally 60 minutes of them filling out forms. Jesus Christ. That you would have to fill out on anyway online that you could fill out way faster because you know how to type your own name. So basically they say come in. And so we came in on a Sunday and we're just standing there. I'm standing. I'm thinking, well, why do you say that if you want me to just stand here like an asshole?
Starting point is 00:50:23 And I had, I mean, I seriously had to wait like over an hour to get this shot because he had to fill out all the paperwork, had to check my insurance, had to sit down because there was people ahead of us. And then finally we got the shots, but I'm in there for over an hour. And I'm like, well, then why would I do that? Why would you say no appointment necessary? Yeah, I guess not, but you're still, I still have to spend an hour there. It doesn't make any sense. But I'm going to go to Costco next time because we, we couldn't get the,
Starting point is 00:50:49 I asked him, I was like, got the Novex. He's like, no, it's, it's, it's Moderna. And I, so that's what I got. So you got it. We drove, it's, we don't even have a Costco membership, but like they'll let you in there to go use their pharmacy. So, cause they want the pharmacy money. So we went in, I brought the family, I bring my nanny. I'm like, I make make her appointments to I'm like, yeah, if you're coming to my house, you're getting the shot. Okay So I make her appointments she's come and then we get to wander around and eat samples We were in and out and under an hour. I say that's great So like in Florida, they've got a crazy Floridian surgeon general the surgeon general Florida is a crazy lunatic
Starting point is 00:51:26 surgeon general. The surgeon general of Florida is a crazy lunatic anti-vax nut job. And of course, DeSantis is a crazy lunatic anti-vax lying piece of shit nut job. And he's in bed with the fire. The surgeon general is in bed with him. And so they put out this crazy misinformation, like telling people, Hey, I actually want to read what they said. I don't want to even like, you guys got to just hear this. This is so crazy. Here are some claims in the bulletin by the Florida Surgeon General. COVID boosters don't undergo clinical trials. That's not perfectly true.
Starting point is 00:51:57 The boosters themselves don't undergo a specific clinical trial for the booster. Same is true of all boosters. Flu shot boosters, it would just take too long. But they are technologically just a variation on an existing thing. It's the same thing. So there's no need for it. And this is like technology that we've used for a long time. So we know that you don't have to test every new booster, that that's not even possible. So that's misleading.
Starting point is 00:52:21 They're fine people on both sides, Willie wasn't talking about them. It's misleading. This is their both. They're fine people on both sides. Well, he wasn't talking about them Right. It's basically splitting hairs with you. It's it it is and it's it's intentionally misleading The shots pose a risk of infections autoimmune disease and other conditions just know yeah, that's just not not true That's just like straight up. It's not even like there's some truth or that's an exact That's just not a true sentence in any sense of it Right. They said the shots could cause elevated levels of spike protein and foreign genetic material in the blood again That's just not a true. That's just some fucking YouTube rabbit hole Joe Rogan RFK bullshit That's nothing there man. Take a fucking cold plunge and get that shit out of your head. All this shit is dangerous too.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Yeah, man. Every single thing they're saying, vaccines save lives, these COVID shots have proven that they lessen this disease and make it so it's much more manageable on so many different people. And the idea that these people are spreading this kind of misinformation to a population that is much older than the rest of the nation.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Yeah, man. And they specifically say that they that old people and sick people shouldn't get the COVID booster. They specifically say it in the bulletin. This is murder. I mean, honestly, if somebody gets COVID, it's ideological murder. And dies from COVID. And they are following the advice of this bulletin and did not get the booster. There is a high likelihood that that person would not have died. This misinformation is going to kill people.
Starting point is 00:53:57 People, more people than zero, will die as a result of this bad information. What is the point of this? What? And it's an amazing one. It scores some this? What? I don't know, man. It scores some weird political advantage. I don't understand it. I think the thing is, is that DeSantis just chose somebody who is genuinely not qualified for the position.
Starting point is 00:54:14 A thousand percent. And this person is now just, I have the megaphone and I'm gonna say the craziest shit I possibly can about vaccines and they do. And they get away with it. This is the fucking, this is not a small voice in our country. This is a one in 50 job in our country. Oh my God. And they got, and they have a huge voice over millions of people. Millions of people. 22 million you were saying earlier. Yeah, millions of people living that. And the other thing is too, that
Starting point is 00:54:41 because he's got a prestigious title, people outside the state of Florida will point to this that are already ideologically on board and say, see, and they will amplify this message. A couple more things. He says, uh, Americans face unknown risks from too many booster shots. Fucking no. That's just not a true sentence either. Yeah. I mean, definitely not with Tom. Tom had everything. I've gotten just for, just for, I've had the Johnson and Johnson. I've had both Pfizer's, both Moderna's. I've had a Novavax, a Novavax, and I had another Moderna. So I've had eight COVID shots. I'm fine. Yeah. I'm perfectly fine. How many times? Once. I had COVID one time. Yeah. Florian, should you exercise and eat vegetables and healthy fats? That doesn't save you from getting COVID, man.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I mean, that's fine. It's fine. You should do that. You should all do that. But that doesn't have anything at all to do with what you're talking about. That's like, yeah. It's like, get a good night's sleep. Okay. Sure. Sure. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Ice cream tastes good. Have better posture. Okay. Yes. I agree. I'll try. Wonderful advice. I'll do the best I can. Yeah. But no matter what, my neck does this when I say it's computer. Hey kids, stay in school. I can't stop my neck doing this. It does it all the time. quick, that bulletin also urges all Floridians to avoid the mRNA shots and then specifically neglects to mention the existence of the Novavax shot, which does not use the mRNA technology and uses a more traditional technology. So even for those people who, and the Novavax vaccine was an interesting, and it's just
Starting point is 00:56:21 kind of a nice digression. It was an interesting point when that became available in the US to see just how dishonest these guys were, right? Because all of the pushback was, oh my God, it's this mRNA thing. We don't really know. You don't know what the, the mRNA is all new today. Okay, well here's the Novavax. It's using a much more established, older crickets.
Starting point is 00:56:40 They didn't say, okay, everybody rush out and get the Novavax shot. Hey everybody here. None of that. None of that. They ignore it like it's not there. They just ignore it because they were never honest with you to begin with. Yeah. They never cared about you in the beginning. They never wanted to help you.
Starting point is 00:56:55 All they wanted to do was make sure that they kept selling the same point that they sold over and over and over again. Vaccines aren't dangerous. Vaccines aren't dangerous. They're not dangerous, YouTube. Okay. Everybody should get lots of vaccines. Vaccines aren't dangerous. Vaccines aren't dangerous, YouTube. They're not dangerous, YouTube. Okay?
Starting point is 00:57:06 Everybody should get lots of vaccines. I've had them all. Yes. Well, I'm hoping to see some lightning tonight, although the weatherman says there's not going to be any rain. Well, there's going to be plenty of rain, all right? Winds, thunder, lightning. It's going to be one hell of a storm.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Well, thanks. Nice talking to you. Maybe we'll bump into each other sometime again in the future. Or in the past. This story is from Freedom From Religion Foundation. Evangelical climate change denial is killing our planet. This was a fascinating study that was done. But also one of those things that after you hear it,
Starting point is 00:57:41 you're like, ah, it makes sense. Yeah, there's no party that will be surprised, but here's something I'm just gonna read straight up. Like New York University political scientist, John Cain, and University of Oklahoma sociologist, Samuel Perry, have published a new working paper finding that the belief claiming that, quote, "'God has a secret timeline involving Jesus's return
Starting point is 00:58:00 and the world's decline and destruction' is the strongest religious predictor of reluctance to endorse policies to combat climate change. Another way to say that is if you're a religious nut, that is the strongest predictor that you are also a climate denier. Yeah, because you are an end times blood cultist, right? You think that there is going to be a sacrifice of many, many, many millions of people to bring about what you think is a utopia. You're a blood sacrifice person. That's what you think.
Starting point is 00:58:36 100%, dude. Yes. I mean, and if you think that, if you go through your life thinking the end of the world is nigh, go through your life thinking the end of the world is nigh, then of course you would have a fatalistic view when it comes to like whether or not you should take care of the planet. I mean, I was like fucking Tom, it's like giving your fucking retirement over to Zool or whatever. Like are you kidding me? You don't go to fucking Key Master Financial. Here's my portfolio.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I'm starting that. I have a thousand. It's just got two dogs. No, but seriously, man, like you don't fucking give that guy be like, he's like man, stay pups coming next week. I don't know. Invest it all in DJT. I don't know. All I know is when you're looking at your bonds and your stocks, do not cross the strings. Do not cross the strings. Don't cross your income strings. No, but seriously, man, like, of course you wouldn't look at that person for advice. Of course you wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:59:36 That's like asking the person who's screaming the end of the world is nigh on the corner and asking them for advice. Well, yeah, like it's like it's also it's like it's not only like are they living with a sense of like Future based futility that that we none of us should share right, right? But they also believe that fate is preordained. Yeah So if I believe in the fucking then I then obviously like it's so funny If I believe in the fucking, then obviously it's so funny. It's so funny that they can hold these two fucking ideas in their insane boiling heads at the same time. It is cognitive fucking dissonance, my friend, because they have to believe in free will. Biblically, free will plays a big part in blaming people for being evil, and that's
Starting point is 01:00:22 why sin and all that bullshit, right? But how the fuck do you have free will and also God controls everything and there's a fucking preordained pattern And here's the they those can't you can't those they can't together None of that none of that But these people if you believe that the fate of the world has been preordained, that fate is a real thing, that the existence of our future has already been determined, that all the things that can happen have happened in some sense by our divine creator, then like, yeah, you would be like, oh, what am I going to do? Destroy the earth? Or fucking the locusts wearing fucking army helmets and swords or whatever are going to
Starting point is 01:01:03 do that. And then the sun is going to crash into the ocean and flash boil the blood of the fucking Jehovah fat or whatever. And then fucking Jezebel is going to swing out and fuck the wrong guy. And then the Antichrist shows up with a smile and the end, you know, like whatever nonsense, fever, dream, revelation, boogeyman garbage your brain has absorbed. That's where you're at now. If however, you're just like a real person who doesn't believe in fucking fairy tale
Starting point is 01:01:29 bullshit, maybe you want to make sure the air is pretty, the blood. And you know, like having a fatalistic, cynical view of how the world is going to continue on and to always constantly just be like, well, I don't fucking care about it. Whatever. I don't give a shit. Look at how they talk about what they want to do if they get an office. Look at how much they want to change climate policy. They want to roll everything back to how it was back in like the Bush era. They want Hummers down the street. They want all this stuff. This is, in my opinion,
Starting point is 01:02:00 some of the most scary shit that religion does. In my opinion, this is the scariest shit, this fatalistic, like, I wanna bring about the end of the world stuff, because you are trusting that this is what is real, and no one else in the world is playing along with you, not the masses that you think of. And we're along for the ride with you. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:02:26 And that's not a person I want to be in charge of anything. If you want to be fatalistic and cynical and shitty about your own life and how, you know, like you're waiting, you're counting the seconds for the apocalypse, that's fine. You do that with yourself, right? But you shouldn't be in charge of anything that matters. 100%. Like, we should only have people in charge
Starting point is 01:02:47 that have a look forward to the future that has some optimism. Yes, yeah. There's no point, there's literally no point in you planning for a future you don't plan to attend. Yes. ["The Star-Spangled Banner"] All right, that's gonna wrap it up for this week.
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