Comedy Bang Bang: The Podcast - Jason Alexander, Peter Tilden, Shaun Diston, Jessica McKenna

Episode Date: February 27, 2023

Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden join Scott to talk about their podcast “Really? No, Really?”, talking dogs, and Pretty Woman. Then, sound guy Tony Nails stops by to talk about the movies he’s worked on. Plus, acting coach Filomena Trappp drops by to talk about the Trappp Method.Check out Jason and Peter’s podcast Really? No, Really? from iHeartPodcasts here: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-really-no-really-107027693/

BOO BOO! That's the sound of my dumb niece. Welcome to Comedy Bang Bang. Thank you, Taylor the Boy One. Taylor the Boy One for that catchphrase submission. I don't know if that's going to stick. I don't know. Pretty good, though.

I don't know. Maybe I say that every week. I'm not really sure. Let's talk to our guests about this, give their opinion. I definitely want to hear what they think about it. Welcome to Comedy Bang Bang for another edition. My name is Scott Ackerman. Coming up a little later, we have someone who works in the film industry.

That's exciting. Wow. Stars are back. Stars are back. We also have an acting coach. Okay, well, they work in the industry a little bit. So that'll be exciting. That's a B block and C block, but let's get to A block here because we have some other

people who work in the industry. They, look, their accomplishments are many, certainly on one side of the table. Oh, Jason, I don't mean to slight you, I feel so bad he's slighting you. That's horrible. I know about one of you and a little I know about the other one of you. That's good. It's really cheap. Yeah.

He's worked very hard to cultivate that image. One of you had a 10-year run, nine-year run on an incredible sitcom, probably the number one sitcom of all time. In terms of viewership, at least, and critical acclaim. I'm not familiar with the stats. You don't know the stats, really. I know the checks cleared. Why didn't they make baseball cards of like all the scientific characters?

I do not know. And with all their stats on the back, do I not know why they make the cards? I don't know why people feel they are more valuable if I sign them. That's right. Isn't that strange? I have no idea. But, but Seinfeld for Magic the Gathering. This is an idea, right?

Sure. Yeah. Okay. So one of the, one of you is in Seinfeld and the other one of you. Watch Seinfeld. Watch Seinfeld. Occasionally. Oh, only, only occasionally.

Not a fan. Not a fan. Never saw it. Not a fan. It's a podcast that's out currently and in perpetuity, I hope. It's called Really? No. Really?

It's on the I Heart Radio Network. Please welcome to the show for the first time, Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden. Oh, and by the way, which is not just alphabetical order. That's right. Just saying. And alphabetical in both names as well as the first name and the last name. Absolutely true. What a job you're doing.

Interesting. You know, we just started, but we're observing because we want to see how to do this. You guys are new podcasts. We are new podcasts. That's right. We are. I have to say, finally, celebrities are doing podcasts. Yes.

Well, we saw that there was a niche. A huge opening. And Jason said, you're not going to believe this. But I did some research. Well, what? I think we got a slot. Yeah. What I do like about the show that you guys are doing, I'll have you explain.

Why don't you explain it first and then I'll comment on it? I would like to hear, could he explain it? No. You know what that means. He's not familiar with the show. No, no, no. I know everything about this. It's fine.

I don't have to look down at these notes here in front of me. Go ahead. Look up and look up. Okay. I'll look up. It is a show that explores the unexplained questions about, well, the earth as well as the universe. Sure.

Questions like why are the bathroom doors? Why don't they go all the way down to the bottom of the ocean? Someone read the pamphlet. Okay. And you have guests on to talk about things, guests like William Shatner. You are exactly right. This is pretty good. Light years ahead of where our research.

So tell us about, first of all, I want to know how you guys know each other because I saw you've worked together on a couple of TV shows. Yeah. I know that. Is that how you met? I met Peter. I had a 30-plus year career here in doing radio and LA. K-A-B-C from what I'm told.

That was where he ended. Where were you when I met you, Peter? You were like a sponge. Watching the osmosis happen. You told me five minutes ago. Where were you when I first came on the show? In the parking lot. You wasn't K-A-B-C.

It was K-A-B-C. It was morning drive K-A-B-C. You came in. Right. This is like 1993 or four. Three or four. Early in the Seinfeld run. Yeah.

So perhaps when it was still called the Seinfeld Chronicles. No. It was past that. That lasted for a pilot. Much like the office, an American workplace. Yeah. See you later. Exactly.

And we had such a good time on the air. Kind of collecting. Peter said, hey, you want to, it was an early morning show. He said, you want to have breakfast? And I went, yeah. I think that would be fun. I do that with all of my guests, by the way. Zero percent.

By the way, we brought pastry. I was off. Nothing. I have to tell our listeners. A lot of people have brought gifts over the years. Alison Williams brought a wonderful baby gift for my new Neppo baby. That she's wearing today. As a matter of fact.

Four months. Four months at this point. Wow. And Jason and Peter brought Winchel's donuts. That's right. Why are you laughing? At least we stopped. Winchel's cronuts.

Yeah. They are cronuts. We'll give you the cron. And how many are in that box? Four. I have four. No, four. One for everybody.

You don't come to somebody's home to do something. Without bringing half a dozen. Sure. Exactly. I was going to repurpose a gift that my agent gave me, but that didn't look right. What was the gift? Because it was some coffee thing that takes, it takes care eggs, but it's a once. I'll take the cron.

Everybody gives the coffee thing now. I have nine coffees. Most people drink coffee. People are giving you coffee makers? Coffee makers. It's the big wrap gift. It's the big Christmas 67. People were giving me iPads for a while.

It was just lousy with iPads all over the house. Stop giving me. Oh, I'll just throw them out. Fucking iPads everywhere. So you guys met in the parking lot of K ABC. We had such a great camaraderie and chemistry. Instant report on the air. You take it to breakfast.

We took it to breakfast and that breakfast Peter said, by the way, I know you're on the Seinfeld thing. I have your next TV series. Really? And he did. It was the next TV series I did. It didn't go as planned. Really?

What was the show again? That burns my butt. We have a butt burning situation here. Because it's hard to get a show on. Exactly. Just getting a show on the air is an accomplishment. Maybe not necessarily right after Seinfeld. With all that momentum.

How does your butt feel now? Butt burn number two. But wait, what was the show? It was the... I think I may take the cronuts. It was a show called Bob Patter. So it's a motivational... I love that show.

Motivational speaker. Who can't motivate his own family. Okay, it's a great concept. Love that show. Great concept. Was this based on your own life? No. Your family loved it.

No, my family doesn't like me, but I'm not of motivation. I also can't motivate anybody. And they're probably packing while I'm here. But it has nothing to do with that. Honestly, I always cracked up with the Tony Robbins and all those guys. That they're going to come in. You're going to give them five grand. And somehow, after a seminar, you're going to go...

After eight hours. Yeah, you're 48 years old. You're living your truth. A lifetime of... You're looking for your truth. Exactly. And obviously, you go fourth out of fifth out of Tony. And you're going to go home and go, oh my God.

I have to... He helped me reinvent myself. No. You're still the same schmuck you were when you went in. You're five grand lighter and Tony just bought a sweater. Tony's life is better. Tony's life is immensely better. Yes.

So I always loved those characters that they somehow have the roadmap for you. So I thought... Hey, look, I'm in. I'm going to make the show. If you guys want to make it. If you have heat right now, Jason's out. You know what? Actually, I have no heat.

That is the other issue. I directed a movie in 2019. And then a little thing called the pandemic happened. Oh, sure. Well, that's sort of what happened to Bob Patterson. The pandemic of no one watching? No, no, no. Well, no.

We... I think... We... 2001 was our show. There was 9-11. Oh. And I think we debuted on 9-12. No.

Big time for comedy. Oh, yeah. Big time for comedy. No. We had a second episode. We had to do a candlelight vigil. No, really? Yeah.

Yeah. And one of the Wayne's brothers had to show in the adjoining studio. Right. And lit a cigar and the alarm went off and everybody had to be evacuated. What? Yeah. And that was good for comedy, too. The audience was in a fine state of mind.

Oh, my God. Wait, was this shot at Warner Brothers? No. It was shot at Disney. Oh, at Disney. This is for ABC because you would work for KABC and you were like, let's keep it in the family. It was ABC Touchstone and Fox.

Right. 37 people giving me notes at the time. Oh. Yeah. But I mean... That's the right word. An incredible accomplishment. We've all been...

I mean, not all of us have been there to have a show on the air. But I mean, I had one, sure. Yeah, sure. 110 episodes maybe. Jason was kind enough to be on it. Absolutely. Incredible part. Great fun.

Yeah. By the way, and I've mentioned this on podcast before, I don't know if you remember this, but I asked you at one point, I said, hey, why are you even doing this show? Because it's such a tiny show. And you said, I love the script. And I said, this guy gets it. He gets it. Yeah.

I just did a little movie. You know, first time director writer, Larry David's Daughter is one of the stars of it. Oh, this is one of the... John Rodnitzky and... Oh, baby. But I mean, I don't know if it's ever going to be seen a lot today. And they were like, I can't believe you're here. And I went, cute script.

That's right. Well, I mean, that's the thing. Really fun? Because you started... Were you a Broadway guy before the show? Yeah. Theater guy. Right.

You're a theater guy. That's the thing. I mean, you spend your life in the trenches, just sort of like wondering about these parts. Am I ever going to get to play? I mean, and then you get famous. I don't understand the people who retire the minute they're famous. Yeah. It's like, this is when you should be doing all this stuff, right?

The whole point of having any celebrity name, there's no good use for it other than you get invited to a few more parties with gifts attached to them, you know? And it's... And they were astonished that I said yes. And I said, look, you know, it's a really fun... Same thing with this. I mean, I don't really know from podcasts. I really don't.

I don't listen to many. So which ones did you listen to, Obama and Bruce Springsteen together? I did not. One of the greatest podcasts. I read the book, though. They go super deep. They do. And comedy.

Oh, so funny. These guys are like so funny together. It's incredible. Bruce, many people don't know he's a crack-up. He's so funny. He's hugely funny. I love it when he just stops the show. Those are the reasons his shows are so long.

He does 20 minutes of stand-up in the middle. Gotta go to the bathroom to Obama and said, born to run and Obama just went nuts. He just... Now, you did Obama. You worked with him. I worked with Obama. Yeah, I've met Barry a couple of times and yeah, he's a great guy, wonderful guy. But when Obama comes in to do between two firms, okay?

Are you asking me, did he know what it was until he got to the room? Did he get it? And how much rewriting and how much he's not gonna say this, he's not gonna do that, he's not gonna go here? Are you out of your mind? Surprisingly, and look, I'm not the one being interviewed, but I'd love to tell these to us. Surprisingly, everyone got it and in fact, we wrote a joke that was pretty hard and

the script, his speech writer at one point said, I don't think we can say this. And then he said, you know what? I'm constantly being told that I can't write stuff into the scripts. I'm not gonna be the one to tell you not to do it. So we're just gonna leave it in. I was like, really? And I don't think they knew how much power they had, like they could have given us any note, we would have been like, okay, sure.

But they were very hands off, it was an incredible situation. And in fact, Zach tried to say right before the shoot, hey, I don't wanna do this really mean joke. And I said, they've approved it. And I worked around it by saying, he's gonna expect it. If you don't say it, it's gonna throw him off. And he went, oh, okay, we don't wanna throw him off. Wow, wow.

Fascinating. Is it fascinating or is it boring? It is. I can't quite tell. You're right. You're now exactly in the turf of our podcast. And this is what I want to get back to. I was gonna say, Laurie, you're attenuating over it.

Pull that clip for really, really. Yeah, really. Yeah, pull the clip. Let's hear the clip. Let's use that. Make sure we get okay. So your show, you asked him to do, you had the idea first or? Yeah.

And the same is true of the podcast. Did you go to breakfast about the podcast? We didn't because I'm always expected to pay at this point and I'm not doing it anymore. Did you pay for the cronuts? Sign for the cronuts. I paid for the cronuts. Thank you very much. You're very welcome.

No, Peter said, I have an idea based on something that we do all the time. So we've been best friends for, she's closed for 30 years already. Wow. And we always talk about bizarre things and he goes down rabbit holes of research and things. And he'll say, he'll give me a little fact, and my response will always be really, really. And he went, that's our show. It's the stuff that makes he and I just cock our heads a little bit and go, that can't

be a thing. How is that a thing? Really? How is that a problem with the solution? Now I'm doing. How is this a solution? No problem. How is it?

And so one of the things that we did, it was episode one of our show, was Jerry Seinfeld. Bless him. And he had a really funny premise of why is it in high volume public restrooms? The stall door doesn't go down to the floor. And I wanted to talk to you. I don't want to give away the answers to listen to it, but I have a theory on it. Okay. That first of all, there's a big bathroom stall.

The handicapped stall. No. I mean, the industry. Oh yeah. The industry itself. Yeah. I didn't want to go micro on you. Okay.

I think there were very few manufacturers of this kind of thing in the U.S. as there were very, you know, how there used to just be less of everything, you know. And they had a lock on this and they didn't want to pay for the door to be to go all the way down. You couldn't be more wrong. You're wrong. Really? Not even close.

What is it they wanted? Well, we're not going to tell you. Why would I give it up? It's a bigger issue, Scott. The bigger issue is in researching it, it's not just that the door doesn't go down. It's that when you're sitting on a seat that has been carved with hieroglyphics by the person before you and you're doing something that's really private, you can see what's going on in the bath.

People walking by, you can see stuff. You can see. Yeah. You can see. Well, they can see. Why won't they? Well, we say if you can see the camera, the camera can see. Yes.

If you can see the people outside the door and the little cracks and things, they can see you. So the answer to that led us to the illusion of privacy. Why are we okay with the illusion of privacy, which then takes you to your house if you had a neighbor who was staring at your household, they punch him. He's going doorbells, thumbing you all day and you're fine with that. And then you're putting cameras in your house and listening devices on and on and on. So we live in this world where there really is an illusion of privacy because we're okay

with it. What do you guys think about cameras in the bathroom stalls? I'm for it. Cameras in the bathroom stalls. So that and then we broadcast it live, live screen. Sure. As a revenue source and this way, if people can get jobs, like everyone's out there doing the gig economy and stuff like this.

I'll tell you the upside of your proposition there. It would humanize all of us. Wouldn't it? Yeah. There's no more celebrity. We're now in an environment in our culture where anyone that you want to see naked has a sex tape. Right?

I'm sure you have a sex tape out there, right, Jason? If you want to call it sex, that's the only part of it that's debatable. But I think this is good. But I think that like, before you go on any date, you should be able to see a sex tape of the other person. Right. Just to see, you know, like what you're in for. I'm tracking this with you.

This is good so far. And this is what I'm talking about with the bathroom. It demystifies everyone where now we're all on an even basis. What about all the people who can't get a stream started as it is? That's true. Live streaming, somebody who can't stream. You're streamed exactly. Done.

God, this is a good point. I love your supposition that I'm going on a date so I want to see what I'm in for as if the date is a slam dunk to sexuality of some kind. There's literally no conversations. I think it's like when you're kidnapping someone, getting them at the location is 90% of it. Wow. Well, this is a great podcast idea. I haven't listened to it yet, but it's been out for a couple of weeks now.

As we tape this. As we're taping this. There's been two that have dropped. What's the second one? This phenomenon that you see all over the internet of people who have trained their pets, mostly dogs, to talk via these prerecorded buttons on the floor. If you look at the internet, there's many celebrity animals that are doing this. And they talk English or whatever language.

They're pressing a button, whatever the button. Oh, I see. And it starts with the basics of outside water, hungry, but it becomes, they start to express feelings. Really? Yeah. And they start to ask questions. But are there buttons for the questions?

Yeah. If the pet parent makes the button and the dog starts linking on their own buttons together, they're forming sentences. And then you've got a dog going, really, you're going out in those pants. It's that kind of thing. Interesting. Yeah. Did you guys read about the new Bing AI chatbot that basically just today, I think a New York

Times writer like had a two hour conversation with it where it tried to, the chatbot tried to get the writer to leave his wife for it. This is where we're headed. Dogs talking, chatbots trying to get me to divorce my wife. Yeah. What is this world? Well, the fun thing about the talking dog episode is that it then took us into this exploration of, let's say they can communicate more than we assumed, let's say they can express self-interest

and sentient engines. Now look at how you treat them. Even if they're the love of your life, there was a wonderful mom, I'm going to give away one thing from the thing. Oh my God. Here you guys. Laurie. We asked.

We asked the woman. Do we need permission for this? Do we need to call up IR? We asked the woman who created this technique. Have you ever run a video camera when you've left the house? Does the dog still hit buttons? Like randomly? And you have to tune in for the answer.

I want to know. Come on. Don't make me beg. Don't make me beg. Don't make me beg. All right. He's giving me the look of, don't give it away. This is the kind of thing if you give people a taste.

This is a lot like dealing drugs, which I found out in Hamsterdam. First taste is free. That's right. You get them hooked. So give us one little taste. I will tell you that the dog, I won't tell you what the dog did, but it did continue to use the buttons and the result was when you hear the story, it's heartbreaking. Really?

So the dog actually pressed the button and said, leave your wife and fell in love with the dog. That's the kind of thing that's so interesting about your podcast. Men falling in love with dogs. Yes. Is that interesting? Okay. Yes.

Is it interesting? I don't know. What's interesting is how we look at animals, how we categorize them. And I think the study where you said, I don't think any study has been used that shows that animals are dumber than we thought. So you start wondering what they know and how much we really want to know about what they know. I find it interesting because you read all these things.

Now I have a nepo baby and so you read all these things about like, oh, babies, regular babies or nepo babies, they, you know, they think this. So when they're trying to express this, we don't fucking know. No, we don't know anything. We can't, they can't do it. Yeah. How old are your baby? Four months.

How do you have a nepo baby? Don't they have to get a job in the industry? Well, we're just, we're training. You're assuming? You're assuming? Oh yeah. We're podcast royalty here at this household. So what?

We're on Mt. Podmore and you guys will get this. You're teaching the baby to talk. Your wife is sitting like a casting director across with a camera and going, look in here, look in here. You will not talk to her unless it's on mic. Correct? It has to be a podcast.

I am so proud of you. As soon as that baby learns how to slate. It's all over. Well, look, this is a great idea for a show. I'm glad you're not just doing regular interviews with your celebrity friends like every other celebrity does. And even the, even the Shatner interview, I mean, this goes into many, many things. Well, that was the, that was the really, are really, are really on that list.

No, that really was these not. He does more than you do in a year at 92 in a day, literally in a day. He doesn't stop. I called Kathleen his assistant and she's like, I can't do that thing because she's doing a paintball tourney. He's doing horseback. That's the thing that you don't get old if you continue to do stuff. Play paintball.

Yeah. Play paintball. That's what I mean. And then, and then yes, we get into the space thing with him and, and there's some surprise there too. I will set it up. I said to Bill, so was there a contingency that after they shoot you up and you're on the way up, shoot you out.

Not you. Not you. Oh, in the space. Oh, not you. They're not giving him heroin. No, no, no, no, no. Or at least you can tell us that. Okay.

But when they shoot you off, was there a contingency in case like you, not you, but somebody there has a heart attack. I'm now laughing when you said when they shoot you off, which sounds like the jerk came up. Find some sort of. Scott, you say I'm leaving you on the ride. Scott, you need to leave your wife. Okay. Wow.

So when they shoot you into space, is there a contingency if again, not you, but somebody there has a heart attack and he gives the, he gives the answer. Really? Really? No, really. Really? No, really. This, see, this is, and this is the kind of thing you guys are, I'm doing it just naturally

and you guys turned it into a podcast and incredible job. And it's out right now on iHeart and it's called really with a question mark and then no and then a comma and then really with another question mark. I know that sounds complicated. You don't even need the puncture way. You can probably just type in really no really, it'll just come right up. You guys are on episode two as of this recording, I believe we're on, I think the 798 or so. Do you think you'll get on the Mount Podmore?

Size queen. We got a size queen. Which by the way, my sister-in-law, I was ordering her a mattress and I said, Hey, which one of these do you want? And she emailed me back which one and then she wrote size queen. And I was like, What are you trying to tell me? And I realized she was telling me the size of the mattress. Bigger question.

Wait, wait, wait. Why are you ordering your sister-in-law mattress? This is the real question. This is, I need to go on your show and figure this out. I mean, that just went right by everybody. Hold on a second. I guess I'm the mattress guy now. I don't know.

Are you advertising? You're some insight in the mattress. Because my back is hurting. Can you, can you? I'll hook you up with the mattress. Give me half a dozen cronuts. I'll hook you up with the mattress. Well, really no really is out there right now.

We're going to take a break. When we come back, we have somebody who works in the industry. This is incredible. And then an acting coach after that. So this is a big, big show. I'm looking for that. This is a very big show. Really are you?

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Really Know Really is the podcast on our heart radio, and Jason, it may surprise you to learn that my co-host on my other podcast, Scott hasn't seen, and I, we recently watched a movie. I watched a movie for the first time called Pretty Woman. Oh, yeah. I've heard of it. Yes, where you play the lecherous co-worker of Richard Gere, who smacks the shit out of Julia Roberts at one point.

I don't smack her. She smacks me. What did you do to her? I... You push her down? What do you... I can't remember. No, no, no.

I see people attribute very badly to having to make... In my mind, you smack her. To remind people. Oh, yes, I do smack her. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

No, Scott, Scott. This is inside-syncing. When you have to understand, this is denial and abuse, because it's denial. We're not going back to old movies and cancelling characters for smacking people. She plays a prostitute who has, in my character's opinion, derailed his business by corrupting Richard Gere's character, and I become inappropriate with her, and she bites my hand, and in response I smack her, and then Richard Gere pulls me off her like a band-aid and beats crap out of me.

Was that a fun... Was that a fun shoot? I mean, you're great in the movie. I'd never seen it before. You're a great guy. I didn't even know you were in it when you popped up and said, there's my guy. It was incredibly fun, and the long story truncated down is that the script was actually much more of a drama, but Gary Marshall directed it.

That's right. It used to be called $3,000. $3,000 was it, and Gary Marshall came aboard as the director, and when I came to the film about... They had already been shooting for two weeks. I remember Richard Gere saying to me in the makeup room, get ready, because I don't know what movie we're making, and I said, what do you mean, and he went, you'll see. And I went out for my first scene.

All I can tell you is we never got to the dialogue, but Richard had on a very fancy pair of shoes, and Gary saw the shoes, and Gary said, when Richard comes in, talk about his shoes, and I started ad-libbing about the shoes, and we shot that, and he went, good, cut, let's move on, and I went, what about the scene? He goes, shoes are good, and then Richard went, that's what I'm talking about. And we had no idea that he was making that film, or we couldn't see the forest for the trees. When we wrapped, having had a great time, we went, he's got nothing.

There's no story. There's nothing there. And we were wrong. Wow. What a story. What'd you get for the wrap gift? Was it a coffee maker? Let me tell you, when it became the highest-grossing rom-com in Disney history, we got a plaque

saying it's the highest-grossest rom-com in history. Wow. Oh, the mouse house. Oh, that's all right. I kept the plaque. And you should know, Richard, you're helping me get the gate. Oh, did you know Richard before? I did not, but Gary did not want me, because for many reasons he had another actor in mind,

but also I was, I think 29 years old when I was making that, I was playing Richard's high-powered attorney, and because of the fight scene, which was scripted to be a bigger deal, I'm considerably shorter than Richard, and Gary said, it'll look like he's beating up a dwarf. And because it was a Disney film, they're very protective about their dwarfs. So of course. So this is DSU. But they couldn't get that actor.

Oh, do you know who the actor was? I do, but I don't want to say, I understand. And he would have been terrific, by the way. Right. Well, it was... It was... Yeah, it was... And anyway, Gary was pretty adamant that I was just not right for it.

But the casting director really believed in me, and they didn't have anybody, and that character had to start shooting. So she convinced Richard to invite me to his office with her, and he put phone books down on the ground, and I stood on the phone books to get a better approximation of his height. Oh, that's so nice of him. And we shot a scene, and then Richard took the video and put it on Gary's desk and went, this is the guy. Wow!

Incredible. And did that help you get the Seinfeld show at all, or was it possible? Possibly. There is... I mean, I'm not sure, but there's a strange geography from Gary Marshall is the brother of Penny Marshall. Gary Marshall was married to Rob Reiner. Rob Reiner was the head of Castle Rock Producing Seinfeld.

And just any being in a movie, a big popular movie, probably would be the best. Yeah, I guess it gave me enough visibility. Richard Gear, you owe your career to him. I do. I worked with Richard twice. He's... Really? What was the other movie?

A little movie called Hachi, a true story about a dog. It's a very small story. It happened in Japan, but a dog that would accompany his owner to the train station every day and then come back knowing when his train would arrive and walk him home. And one day, after about a year and a half of this, the gentleman died while he was at work and never came back. No. The dog never left the train station for the rest of its life.

And in Japan, there's a statue of this dog. It's revered as a symbol of undying loyalty. And so Richard produced an American version of that story. I got to see this movie. I've never even heard of it. Hachi. Hachi. Don't rush.

You waited 28 years to see the movie. I mean, the moment. Yeah, maybe I'll see when I'm 70. And by the way, Little Trivia, the movie's directed by Lassie Hallstrom, also the name of a dog. That's true. That's a great point. Andy directed a movie called My Life as a Dog.

There you go. And he got that because his name was Lassie. And he's married to a very pretty woman. Oh, hey. Bring it closer. And we're out. Yep. Did you ever hit up Julie Roberts after that movie was, after she became a huge star

and like, maybe I could beat the shit out of you in other movies like Aaron Brockovich. I could just come into the courtroom and just womp. You know, it's funny. I sent her an email that said exactly that and I never heard back. Interesting. I don't think I've seen Julia more than once since. Oh, yeah. Smart picture though, Jason.

Yeah, right? If the podcast doesn't quite work out. There we go. Well, this is great. Really, no, really out there in podcast land right now. We need to get to our next guest. He is a, he's someone who works in the industry and look, I mean, we all work in the industry. So this is going to be an interesting conversation with him.

Please welcome to the pro program. I forgot how to say program for a second. Please welcome to the show. Tony Nails. Hi, Tony. Hey, hey, Scott. How are you? Hello.

I'm good. This is Jason. Jason. Peter. Hi. Before we get started, I'm intimidated. Oh, by a huge, huge, huge star. And then Jason Alexander.

I get that a lot. I mean, the guy was on the ABC radio. KKK. Yeah, in California. Los Angeles local. It wasn't national. It was on ABC radio. Thank you.

But I'm just, of course, but a simple union guy. You say, of course. How are we supposed to know that? Well, you can see I'm wearing a wrap jacket from night court. Do you work on night court? I work on night court. The original or the, or the reboot? Both.

Both. They brought me back. You're like the Lerocat of the, of the crew. Yeah. But Scott, hey, before we even get into any of this. Yeah. Can we get some room tone? Room.

What do you need room tone? Room tone. So for the people who don't listen, sometimes on a set, they'll do all the lines. And then at the end of the shoot, they'll say, let's get some room tone, which is just silence on set. In order to edit around it. And I feel like I got a mic in my hand.

I think we should get some room. Yeah. Why did you bring your own, your own mic? Well, Scott, I'm a sound professional. I'm not going to. You work in sound. Is that what you do? I'm a sound guy.

Oh. Did I not say that? I said I was but a simple union guy. Yeah. You never mentioned the word sound. Look, to be fair, you were making sounds. Maybe you thought it was heavily implied. I was, I was like, he could hear me through a bike.

He must know how to get in the microphone services industry. No way. I own these actually. So yeah. So you can, you can see where the confusion was. I think we should get some room tone. Is that okay? Yeah.

I guess we can get some room tone. All right. All right. Hold for room tone. I just feel like. It's just boring. Shut the fuck up. All right.

I think we got. Okay. Oh my God. That's always the best part of the podcast. Yeah. The room tone. Definitely the most tense moment on any set. Yeah.

Yeah. Nobody can move. You're afraid you're going to make a, a noise. But Gaffer drops the lightest of the director's getting. By the way, you guys always call for room tone right at the end of a 12 hour workshop. Yeah. That's the last shot. The shot.

We got it and wrap. Wait. Can we hold for room tone, which means nobody can move. Nobody can exit. Come five seconds earlier. Yeah. And let me tell you something. If your stomach growls or something because you're hungry, we got to start all over again.

We got to start all over again. Tony, do you have a top three room tone? Okay. So I, I, I top three room tone. The cockpit from Top Gun Maverick. With who's cockpit? Because. Which, which plane?

Which was one of the. Hangman, of course. Oh, hangman. That was an incredible day on set. You worked on that? Oh yeah. You want to know some of the movies I worked on? Sure.

Yeah. Avatar. The way of water? Yeah. Moonlight. La La Land. Moonlight and La La Land? Yeah.

Who were you rooting for in the Oscars? You know, for me, it was kind of whoever wanted to win. Wanted to win. Wanted to win. That she's a bit of sheer. To Leslie. To Leslie. Let's see.

That's confusing me because I thought I was seeing the sequel to Leslie. No, no, no. I thought it was Leslie too. I'm dyslexic. To Leslie. Let's see. Avengers Endgame. So you really, from Indies to the biggest, most biggers in the world.

Wow. Jurassic Park. The original? Yeah. 93? Oh yeah. 93. Wait a minute.

You have Jurassic Park, Wontown? Oh, yeah. That was, that's my top three. That's good. That would have had to have been tough with all the dinosaurs. Can I tell you? Well, it wasn't the dinosaurs. It was Sam Jackson.

He would have shut up. I would say, hold Farooq toad. He'd say, hold on to your butts. I said, we got something. Well, you hear the word hold. He did it. I said, hold. Cut me off.

I said, to your butts. Hold Farooq toad. I'll do your butts. But he's a good guy. We get, we get much every couple. Well, yeah. You caught up back with him on Endgame. Yeah.

We worked on Endgame together. Snake's on a plane? Oh yeah. Yeah. Snake's on a plane. 187. 187. Which, which I believe is a police code for a murder.

Is that what it is? I believe so. I thought that this was like his 187th movie. The man works. They should just call movies like Sam Jackson number two, number three. That's what I think. You know what I mean? Just like comic books.

Yeah. Sam Jackson, Robert Downey, Judy crossover. So yeah. So we got the room tone. Yeah. Does this conclude our business? Yeah. Why are you on the show?

I have to be interviewed by you, Scott. Why is anyone on this show? That's a good point. I mean, what the hell? I mean, honestly. Scott, of course, I'm a 30-time Mikey winner. The Mikey's. I haven't heard about this.

That's the one I've heard of either. Jason, you've never heard of the Mikey's? I have not. What does it look like? Is it a microphone? It is actually, you know, it's a big tree for some reason. That's so strange. Yeah.

It's the golden tree. Well, you know, the Oscars is like a dude. Yeah. So I'm like, I don't understand. I guess his name could be Oscar. Well, yeah, true. But then the Emmys are just like some lady with a nose. The golden double wings.

Yeah. Yeah. We have a big silver tree. It's a big tree. I don't understand why. Are there supposed to be mics in it? Like it's like an FBI sting or something like that? They've hidden microphones in the tree?

Or I'm going to ask somebody about that. Who? Who are you going to ask? Oh, who's the head of the Mikey's? A guy named Mikey perhaps? Yeah, it is a guy named Mikey. Are you sure these are microphone related awards? And it's not just some guy who lives in a tree?

No, no, no. When I go in there, they say best sound. And then I go up and accept my award. Wow. Oh, so you're a Mikey winner. I'm a 40-time Mikey winner. 40? Who are you up against?

Oh, wait. I'm actually thinking of the 10. I got 10. You got 10 razzies as well. Oh, you got 10 razzies? Yeah. They're giving razzies to sound? Yeah.

Because sometimes my sound is really bad. Why? Well, they don't get good room tone. This is a thing. You don't get good room tone at the end of the day. The director wouldn't let me do room tone. They wouldn't let me put the mic pack on their thigh. I mean, piss.

You guys were talking about bathroom privacy earlier. Right. That's right. Let me just say this. On my sets, I'm recording the entire time. This is the thing. Anytime you go 10-1, as they say, in the business, which is... Which I should...

I think they should call it 1-2. Yeah, 1 or 2. Well, I either go like 1 or 2. I used to say 10-2. That's good. Because I was taking a big old nasty shit. But when you go, you always look at the sound person like, hey, man, you're not taping this, right?

And they always go like, no. They're lying. And then one day, Rob Hubel's on our set. And suddenly in my headphones, I hear him go into the bathroom. And I'm like, they're lying to us. I think it's important to get all the sound on a set. Because... No matter what happens.

No matter what it is. And I'll tell you why. The documentaries. Oh. 10 years. They might do a documentary about this thing. They might be doing a night court reboot documentary. And they're like, oh, what was it like when John Larrake was in the bathroom?

And I've got the sound. It's right there. My database. So you keep a database of all these sounds. What's the most interesting sound you have? Let's see. The most interesting. That's a great question.

Thank you so much. I mean, I thought it was a little better than the top three room tones. No, no. Ow. I think it's pretty good. The most interesting sound I have. It is the waves crashing on the beach of a little film called Perfect 10. Perfect.

What? Is that a movie? You tell me. What's that movie? Where? 10. Just 10 with Bo Derek? Oh, you mean Bo Derek?

Is that what you said? I called it Perfect. Yeah. Shooting it was called Perfect 10. Dudley Moore. Bo Derek. Shooting Screamers Perfect 10. I think they dropped the Perfect.

Yeah. And let me tell you something. I'm recording. I'm recording the sound. The ocean. Teating the sand. All of a sudden I hear this little bit of pattern. I'm like, what's that?

It's freaking Bo Derek running across my microphone. Yeah. That's the shot. You should have been paying attention. I was out there getting, I was getting ocean tone. Ocean tone. Yeah. And she runs by.

I hear the. That's a good impression of Bo Derek's feet, by the way. And those feet were feet. Yeah. That's how y'all was a foot fetish guy. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wow.

No. Lead with this. Yeah. You should lead with this. Isn't that more interesting than by 40 mickeys? I honestly, yeah. I want to follow up with foot fetish questions. All right.

Let's talk about it. You work with Tarantino a lot. Tarantino. I did. Inglorious bastards. Oh, nice. Pulp Fiction. What's about time in Hollywood?

You can't pause. They all blend for you. Yeah. I'm saying. You get to do 10 feet from stardom or whatever that movie was. Oh, 50 feet from. Yeah. Yeah.

Is it 50 feet? I don't think 50 feet is pretty far. I don't look. Yeah. 50 is too much. I'm like. I think it's third row. Yeah.

If it's 50 feet, I feel like the backup singers are like backstage. 50 feet is like one sixth of a football field. Yeah. That's too. Yeah. That's too much. Yeah. Although it's a good movie.

It is. Is it not? 50 feet. It is. It is. 20 feet. It's 20 feet. It is 20 feet.

Peter, you're right. That's how the parking attendant. That's his story. But you were 30 feet away from the actual set? Yes. I was doing it. So for me, it was 50 feet. Okay.

When you had it all together. And then the restraining order was 140. Yeah. Look, I'm just merely a simple union guy. Right. And I worked on, I don't know, every movie in Hollywood. Wow. See me late.

Incredible. Have you ever worked with Jay-Z? Have we worked together? Yes. We did Blank Man. Do you remember that? Blank Man. Yes.

I do remember Blank Man. I was doing room tone on Blank Man. Well, you know what? That was probably the highlight of that film. That was a movie filled with room tone. I'm sorry. I actually have to disagree. I think the electric nunchucks were pretty good.

Sure. I feel like the big bank robbery scene was great. Your mustache was great. Oh, yeah. Well, thank you. I have a, I have a, it would surprise you to know I have a co-host on another show. He keeps trying to get me to watch Blank Man. Yeah.

I feel like you don't want to watch it for some reason. No. He said after pretty one. Yeah. Only after pretty one. But then we did it and I said, what about Blank Man? He said he's not real. I didn't say it by friend.

Who's your co-host? Oh, your friends with Sprank the Whisperer? I sure am. You sound sort of like him and another guy mixed together. So you're a foot fetish guy. Tell us about that. Okay. So I, you know, I'm a wiki feet 20 hours a day.

20 hours. Wiki feet, wiki feet. Is there wiki feet? Yeah. Oh, plausible tonight. Hold on. By the way, okay. That was really good.

We have an acting coach coming up. You're not going to need it. I've never heard of wiki feet. Is there a wiki feet? Is that a website? I would just go to Feet Point. I wouldn't, wiki feet, really. Yeah.

This is good. You're good. Wow. Can I get room tone? Okay. We should get room tone after the discovery of wiki feet. So when you look at wiki feet. Yes.

Is it just all kinds of feet? Or did you have to go to categories? Peter, this is so sorry. It is a disgusting website where you even, and you're a foot guy. I'm a foot guy. I think it's disgusting. They aggregate pictures of celebrities feet.

They rate them one to five. And these are not, these are not consensual pictures that the celebrities are uploading. These are pulled like Instagram. Yes. Yeah. This is not Grauman's Chinese. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Although there could be a great tie in there. Absolutely. Were you ever in, did you put your mitts there in Grauman's ever? I have not. You should. I'd love to see your own accord. On my own accord. Yeah.

Go down there. Just go down there. Let's just do it. Cronuts. Yeah. I have to the show. I wait for them. Honestly, let's use the cronuts.

We don't need the cement. Honestly, if you did it and just showed up with your own cement. Would they stop? Sure. They would probably be thrilled. What would they do? What would they do? They would probably be like, cool.

We get 50 people. You're crowding down. We make a fake stop. We put it there and announce it on the news. I'll be sound. Yep. Okay. I'll bring my boom, Mike.

You're just going to be taking pictures of the feet. No. You know what? I think we're going to be 50-50 stars. We'll peel off Charlie Callis' star on the walk of fame. And we'll put the stars that you said into enough order. Let's go. That's enough.

I was interested to find out when I was there recently that they cycled the cement. Thank God I got that. They cycled them. They cycled them through. So they'll have some stars out there on some days and then they swap them out. No, they did not. Because there's way too many people. No, they do not.

There's an episode. There's an episode. Really? Kurt Douglas gets lifted up. I think there are some who are. Like Sherry Lewis and Lambchop. And Paulie Shore goes in. Goes in.

Unbelievable. Duck camping. Can you believe it? Duck camping. I think this is really great. But quick second. Can we get some more room tone? Yeah.

All right. Hold for room tone. All right. Okay. Come on, Peter. Come on, man. Come on. All right.

Hold for room tone. Who was that? That was you. No, that was not me. That was your room creaking. That was you just groaning. Listen, I'm not on the bike right now. Okay, everybody.

You're talking into the way everyone can hear you. Scott, I need you to hold for room tone. Nixon got a tough break. What'd you say about Nixon? Got a tough break. The president? Yeah. Are there any other Nixon's?

History was not content. All right. I think we got it. All right. How many times does that happen where the star of the thing just goes ahead and talks during it? And you got to, but you can't be rude. What am I supposed to do?

What am I supposed to do at that point? Tom Cruise starts whispering to somebody. Did you just put it in the movie then as a room tone? Tom Cruise whispering. At that point, when there's silence in the movie, you're going to hear a little bit of Tom Cruise whispering. What do you do with the NFTs? Can you make some NFTs?

Can room tone be an NFT? Yes. You know, I tried to do that, but I do not understand the technology or the way people make money off of it. Got it. Of NFTs? Yeah. Have you guys done an episode of your podcast about NFTs?

No, we should. I want to do one on Bitcoin. I still don't understand how all that works. Yeah. I think we should do, you know. I would love to get you, I have a little business called FTX. I'd love to get you involved. Really?

Yeah. I invest in anything with initials. I would love for you to do some commercials, some Matt Damon style commercials. I love that idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I think that's, I see no downside to that. They're bringing it back. It's coming back.

It's coming back bigger than ever. It's going to be a retro soon. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to love it. Yeah. What's wrong? I just have to finish my Theranos campaign first, but then I'll be right there. I thought that was a Theragun for a while.

I was like, what are, what are we so upset at her about? I love my Theragun. Can we ask you guys a question about that? Yeah, please. And this is why we get into the really no really. Yeah. The board members on Theranos were like the top people in the country, educated, smart. Right.

Nobody said, let's see if the test works. How do you get to that kind of valuation? Yeah. That big. See, I don't know because I've only read the headlines of the articles on Twitter about this. So I don't know anything about it really. Got it.

I think, I think the conversations were probably, well, Elizabeth says it works and she's kind of attractive, you know, give me $6 million. So now you think she was kind of attractive. You know, if I'm, if I'm. I don't judge women that way. But apparently. You know, I like the look with the turtleneck and the. It's a good look.

The Steve Jobs look. And the eyes. Jason says he's got, he's got actually two qualifiers. It's attractive. And then if you're on your way to prison, it's kind of attractive. Yeah. And prison blues. This sounds, this is all great, but.

What's going on? Do you want to ask me about boom mics? Oh, we didn't go there yet. We haven't talked about boom mics. I have a question. Why? Yeah, Jason. Tony, why do you put a.

I'm told Tony. A lot of sort of a lavalier like. Yeah. Mike on me. And then you also have to be there with your big. With a big. Why is one microphone not capable of doing the job. Sound travels in multiple directions.

Okay. Two. Two directions. Yeah. Really. And above your head. So if you start talking. I need to have both sides covered.

Sure. And a lot of people are worried. They're like, this guy's holding up the boom mic. I mean, just use the law. Well, he's holding up the boom mic. Can he hold it up for the entire scene? So of course, before every scene, I go in, I do 50 pushups. I say, look at how strong.

That's not a lot. I say, look at how strong I am. Of course I'll be able to hold up the boom. And now, but the problem is when I hold up the boom mic. I'm like, you're tired from the. Yeah. As I said, I would imagine pull ups would be better for a. That's not a bad idea.

But where do you get the pull up bar on a set? I'm going to bring my own pull up bar. See, and now we're into like, you're bringing your own pull up bar. I'm a professional. I bring whatever I need to the set. Part of your equipment. Can I ask you a question? Of course.

Your field. So in today's world with trigger warnings. When you. Let's get into cancel culture. This is prime podcast. Yeah. When a bunch of guys do a podcast, we got to start talking. I'm the front line of cancel culture.

Well, I figure if I get you off the air, we move up one. That's a good point. When you, when you. When you love somebody up. It used to be, I mean, I'd be on set. They can go right down the, you're back with a mic. And now what kind of permissions do you need? What kind of work do you have to have somebody else witness it?

So basically the way it works is I walk over to you. I start tugging at your shirt and say, Hey, let me get it there. Before you introduce it. Got it. Well, you do tell them you're. Yeah. Simple union guy. I start tugging on this shirt.

Let me see what you're working with. If the shirt's tugged it, I'll tug it. Good. I reach out to the thigh. I mean, maybe I put a thigh thing on here. You're obsessed with the thigh. I've never had a mic on my thigh. I've had it in my sock.

I've had it around my waist. You haven't worked with the professional, Scott. When you're shooting something and you, and you have to walk away from the camera and you see that little weird little tail thinker, but just like you and shallow hell. Sure. That little tail thing. Did you work on shallow hell?

I did. Yeah. Oh, I'm talking about Tony. I know you did. Yes. Yeah. I was the secret sound guy. It was shallow.

There's a secret sound guy on every movie. Oh, yeah. Secrets out. Both a secret room. Don't I say. Everyone's like, I don't know what that is. What is the purpose of the secret sound guy? It's for the documentary, Scott.

Oh, it's all about the documentary. Still waiting on that shallow. The shallow documentary. There's an eight part Netflix documentary series coming out in your show. Yeah. What was I talking about? Oh, I don't know. Yeah.

You start talking on their shirt. I talk on the shirt. You ask me why I'm obsessed with the thigh thing. I just think it's a better hiding place. Now back to talking on the shirt. I talk on their shirt. Yeah, we know. We got the, we got the talking on the shirt.

No, just let me explain. So I walk over, I talk on their shirt. I keep saying you walk over and talk on their shirt. You have not progressed past that point. Did I mention that I say I'm a simple. Okay. No, you didn't have that one. So I talk on their shirt.

I say, let me get in there. We know. All right. Look, room tone Tony. We have to take a break. Hold on. He's playing. I get the two-sided tape.

I don't have the pay. We have the time. We have so much more time. You do have a lot. I don't have the patience to listen to you anymore. Okay, okay. But let me just explain. I get the two-sided tape.

I reach under there and let me just say, the first thing I say is I'm not doing this for sexual reasons. Got it. Well, that's good. And that covers me. Got it. That was a question. I'm not doing this for sexual reasons.

Maybe I go down. I string the, like, lav cord a little through their toes. I go up. Through their toes. You're amazing. Because I've been mic'd up so many times. Jason, did anybody ever say I'm not doing this for sexual reasons? Nobody's announced that.

Yes, actually. You've heard Tony say, we've worked together. Many times this man has turned to me and said, I'm not doing this for sexual reasons. You've heard that other part of your life. Even in the van ride to the set, he said to me. Look, we do have to say one more thing. Yeah. Say one more thing, Tony.

I'm begging you. The sponsors need to be heard. I just need to remind everyone. I'm but a single. Yeah. No, we know. We know. That's all I want to say.

All right. Room tone, Tony. Look, can you stick around though? I'd love to talk to you. Yeah. And I do want to say while we're in commercial, let's get some more room. Okay. Yeah.

I need to do the ads though. Okay. All right. We're going to come back. We have, on the other side of this, we have an acting coach. Very excited. And we have a wonderful actor here. So maybe we'll get some, some good tips here.

We are going to come right back. We have more Jason Alexander, more Peter Tilden, more room tone, Tony. We'll be right back with more comedy bang bang after this. Comedy bang bang. We're back. Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden co-hosts. Are you co-hosts or are one of you the host and the other is the co-host? Does that make sense?

I think we're co-hosts. Arguably co-hosts where our ownership isn't. How do you mean? You have a bigger stake in this? Is that what you're saying? Come on. What are you taking? 98%?

Let's be serious. Excuse me? Excuse me? I mean, have you not talked about this? Do I need to mediate between you two? We're all grown. We're all grown. Obviously.

You're bringing a lot to the table here. How dare you? How dare you? Wait, wait, wait. All I need you to do is wet his beef. Oh. Oh my God. I mean, man was like K-A-B-6.

I thought this was an uplifting, fun, free-spirited show. Is that just how we're coming across? I swear. I thought this was a fun... It's 50-50, okay? Hey, great movie. Great way to have a partnership, in my opinion. Great.

Absolutely. This is what keeps you two together. That's right. Well, they do it 25-25-25-25. Of course. Do they really? They do? Yeah.

I don't believe it. You don't believe it? I don't. Why would you believe it? Do they do it on... I think Bono writes the lyrics and he gets 100% of that. Yeah. See what I mean?

I don't know that. I don't know that either. Do you think they split the lyrics? I thought they split everything. I got to schedule another interview with him. Really? I'll get to the bottom of this, guys. When you know the edge, can you call him up?

I do know that. I don't know his last name. I look it up. Edge is the last name. It does. I keep entering that. The edge, Malibut, then come up. It just pictures a cliff.

You need the last name? Exactly. We also have Tony Nails. We were getting room tone here the entire break. That was a long one, too. I think we got it. I hope so. I'm going to check again.

I'm going to check the gate. You don't check the gate. That's not what... We have our own gate. You have a sound gate? We have a sound gate that we check. Wow. All right.

Where do you keep the room tone? Where do you keep all the room tone? I've got an extensive series of servers that operate throughout the East. Is this like a Westworld kind of situation where they're all in a dam? Oh, yeah. Yeah. If a sentient computer gets a hold of any of the AI that I... I mean, any of the stuff I've recorded, they could deep fake pretty much anyone in the

world. Wow. Oh, no. Where do you live, by the way? What's your address? Santa Monica. One, two, three, Santa Monica Lane. One, two, three, Santa Monica Lane?

Yeah. Okay. We don't want any of the sentient AI computers. We don't want that. Because, of course, I'm just but a simple uni. Okay. Yeah. I don't want to hear that again.

All right. We need to bring in our next guest. She's an acting coach. She's incredible. Jason, you're an actor. I'm an actor and I have taught acting from many people. Have you really? I have.

Who did you teach? Could anyone sign up? I don't think I have any famous students at the moment. What I'm asking is, can I take classes? Can you say, sure you can. Sure. Absolutely. Would you come over here?

No. Where do I have to go? I've been here and I think I've been there. Hey, this is better than Mark Maron's garage. There's no cats running around in there. But she's an acting coach. Let's welcome her to the show for the first time. Please welcome Filomena Trapp.

Well, hello, Scott. Hi. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. Welcome to the show. This is Jason.

Hello. Hello. Hello. This is Runetone Tony. Hey, hello. Hi. Let me mic you up. And I'm not doing this for sexual reasons.

Thank you. She's talking into a mic right now. But I think she needs an extra mic. No, I'm taking the extra mic. Second mic. No, very professional. Thank you so much. Can you do a thigh strap?

Can you use a thigh strap when you're in skirts? Oh, right. Oh, I'm sorry. That's when thigh straps come in. That's part of my gender bias coming through. I apologize. That's all right, Scott. I would just hope that you know.

Now I know. And now I am correcting myself. Well, it's good to see you. Now, Scott. It's good to see you. Yes. Welcome to the show. Scott.

Yeah. Good to see you. It's so good to see you. Welcome to the show. Now, Filomena. What? Good to see you. You're supposed to repeat that.

Good to see you. Good to see you. Good to see you. Wait a minute. Good to see you. Good to see you. Good to see you. Is this an exercise?

Yes. This is one of the classic exercises. This is a classic exercise. Good to see you exercise. You didn't know that. No, Scott. Good to see you. Scott, Scott, Scott.

You know, I hoped. I hoped when I walked through the door that you would remember my teachings, but also just remember me and the fact that you didn't drop in in Meisner with me well. Remember you from what? I'm sorry. Are you a famous acting teacher or are you? I hope I'd be famous to you, Scott. Who's famous to you?

You're acting teacher, Scott. What? I'm your act. You know what? That's your credit f. You can't make that up. That's 10 hours. You're not going to be at the espionage at this rate.

Wait, wait. You taught me acting? Yes, Scott. When? Obviously, you didn't do a good job. Have you seen my TV show? I don't know, Scott. Yeah.

It's very fun, playful, foreverant. Okay. These are not adjectives you give to someone when you're talking about their acting. Well, you know, you're playing a version of yourself, Scott. So, you know, I haven't seen you stretch that much, but I like what you do. But a more annoying version. Well, I don't know. I've been on out with you in a while.

That's true. When did you teach me acting? I'm sorry, I'm not recalling this. You were 14 years old, a freshman at Cypress High School. Oh. Oh. Oh, right. Oh, right.

Oh, Miss Trap. Miss Trap. You didn't trap that in. You didn't even remember the method. That's right. That was your famous joke. The trap method. You know, some people believe in method acting, or some people don't believe in that.

They think you should try to be in the moment. But I believe in the trap method, which is sort of a combination of the two. Yeah, what's the trap method? I don't remember. You just take trap little memories, and if they work, they work. So, that's method. No. No, Scott.

Oh, my gosh. You don't have your acting journals still from my class? I don't think I ever filled that out. I mean, honestly. That's 10 hours of extra credit F, and you can't make that up. Look, I barely remember. You were there for, like, what? How long were you there for?

Like, half a semester? Yeah. About 2.5 months. What happened? Where did you even go to? I got transferred to a junior college. Oh, well, that's a step up. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Well, congrats to you. Thank you so much. It's great. I guess it's great to see you again. Oh, wow. I mean, to be honest, I don't remember anything that you taught me.

You didn't trap it, huh? Are you trapping anything right now, Scott? I wish you would stop saying trap. Did you just trap it in your mind, Palace? I don't have a genie, so obviously it didn't work. Because you're still saying it. Oh, because your wish didn't come true? Yes, my wish didn't come true.

Okay, yeah. You didn't have a genie or a shooting star or a birthday candle or a penny. All the classic wish. All the classic wish vehicles. Look, what was your... Well, actually, I'm going to talk to Jason about this. Well, I wish you would, because I'm fascinated by your... You know, you don't even remember me or my method.

I apologize. No, it's all right. You're fascinated by your trap memory methodology. Yes. Or alternate to method. Right. So, you know, it's not so much in preparation for creating a role, Jason. You're not conjuring a specific, oh, my dog died.

I need to be sad in this scene. Right. I can't get there slowly. Because that would be like a sense memory. Right. You don't do that. We're not doing that. No.

These are random traps. So there's... They're like... I think I maybe had a conversation with my aunt, but it could have been a dream. Trap it. Right. And how does that help you? To do Stanley Kowalski in that moment.

That's right. That's right. How would that help you if you're trying to do a scene where you're sad? Well, because, you know, Scott, because you're connecting to the confusion of what is this, and that can get you to any core emotion. So any trap can lead to any core itself. Sometimes you need to trap... Any trap leads to confusion, which leads you to sadness.

To a core emotion. Yeah. To a core. One of the four core. This is so clean. Wait, what are the four core emotions? Sad, mad, glad. Bad?

Unwe. Unwe. Oh, that's good. So any trap can lead to a core. Sometimes you need to sub-trap to get to the more specific core. If you feel like you're frustrated versus mad. How do you do a sub-trap? Like...

Trap within a trap. That's easy. Just combine two traps. It's an inception. That's right. So you need a totem. You need a totem for this as well? You need a totem to remember which side of the trap you're in.

So it can be a coin. It could be a penny. Actually, a lot of wish vehicles. Oh, really? So a genie, lamb. A birthday candle. Got it, got it, got it. I thought when all my students left my class, I gave them totems.

I can't believe you didn't remember yours. Honestly, it just seemed like you were emptying the contents of your purse that day. Sure. A bonaka bottle. It used to be real in a bonaka. Use Kleenex, I think. Yeah. Yeah, 100% of us threw them away the minute you stepped out the door.

Yeah, sure. All right. Well, you know, I did my best. Yeah. I don't know about this, Scott. That's 10 hours of extra credit. Look, I'm no longer a student even though I am intimidated by you because we all have that thing where a former teacher...

Yeah. ...once you remember that I once taught you for 2.5 months, you can't unring that bell. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Scott, do you remember anything about that period? It was freshman spring, so you're not too... It's not freshman fall where I wouldn't... It seemed like you trapped anything about that.

I remember I was very, very cool. Good. This is a good trap. Now, why'd you think that, Scott? Scott, why'd you think you were cool and popular second half freshman year Cypress High? I just remember, you know, just having a general like BDE about me. One trap. Okay.

Trap it. Trap it. Okay. Trap it. I got my BDE trapped. Good. Good. Now, do you have a totem?

Do you have a totem around you? I have a pretzel here. Okay. Hold the pretzel. Hold the pretzel. And then BDE. I'm 14 and a half. Here we go.

I don't know that I want to be thinking about being 14 and a half. That's the trap. That's the trap. Okay. And now we need to funnel it to a core. What do you think? Happy, sad, glad, sad, mad, or unwee? Probably unwee.

That's going to be unwee. Yeah, yeah. Definitely. Oh, it's your totem. Eat a different pretzel. It's a whole bag. That one's the totem. I'll switch the pretzels.

Switch the pretzels. Don't eat the totem. I was hoping you wouldn't know it is. I'm looking right at you and we have sound for a documentary. Yeah, I did get the sound of the crunch. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry.

Go ahead, Peter. So I'm concerned because I'm trapping his memories right now. Okay. This is great. I didn't want to. No, this is what I want. No, that's the communion of scene work there. Wow.

So sometimes you can trap while you're in the rehearsal process. Got it. Got it. That's great. I'm going to give him my trap. Oh, oh, okay. I'm sorry. Do you consent to giving Peter part of your trap?

Now he can use it. This sounds like a tongue twister. Do you consent to giving Peter part of your trap? Do you get, and he can use it for any of his four corns. All right, I give you consent. Thank you very much. Now you can trap that. I'm right there.

Now do you have a four corn that you want to trap that to? Wow. It's taking me to a place. Glad, sad, mad, unwee. I think a little bit of sad with a touch of unwee. Oh, he's crossing course. Oh, in a complex. That's a complex.

That's tough. That's a two totem. Okay. You need two totems to cross the course. Do you need two pretzels? I'll take these headphones and a mic. Okay. You can't take my headphones and mic with you when you leave.

Oh, yeah. My totem is this laptop and these... I'm not an idiot. My totem is three of these iPads. That's what I'm saying. You can take the iPad. We've done our job. We've done our job.

Thank you. Thank you so much. Ms. Trap. Yeah, I think maybe we should do a scene because that's great. I'm trying to learn how to act myself. On a set, I'm normally checked out. Basically... If you're on a set, you should be able to do the job of anyone who's on that set.

That's exactly right. That's what they say. That's what I knew about thigh mics. Yeah. Maybe we should do that shoe scene from Pretty Woman. Okay. I'll be Richard Gere. Okay.

And Scott, would you like to be Jason Alexander? Yeah. I mean, I just saw the movie. I don't recall the shoe scene all that well. Now I want to start before you dive into the scene with a little bit of prep work. Okay. What do you think the core emotion that your character has in this scene? That's sad, Mad.

For me, it's horny. Okay. Now that's crossing course. Okay. That's crossing both on wheat. That's actually all four cores. Okay, great. To be horny, you have to have all four cores.

All four are engaged when horny? Yeah, because you're sad because you're not being satisfied. You're getting mad about it, so you have a little frustration. You're glad because you're thinking about, well, what if I'm not horny anymore? And then on wheat, because where's it going to come from? This makes sense. So it's all four cores. So that's going to be four traps.

So think of four traps. Okay, all right. You only need one totem. All right. Okay. And that's for Tony. And what about you, Scott? I think I'm going to be glad.

Were you glad in that scene, Jason? I don't remember. In the shoe scene? Yeah. I was, well... Crossing course. I want to do whatever you were. I was mad glad.

You were mad glad. I'll be mad glad. Two cores, two traps. Okay, right. So just go ahead and take your traps. Two pretzels? No, just one totem for two traps. Okay.

One pretzel. Because we're only... Do I need to break it in half? Yeah, that'd be great. Break it in half. Hey, so Jason Alexander's character. Hey, Richard Gere. Yeah.

This is his character. Yeah. You know, the deal that we were trying to work out, I... Hey, where'd you get those shoes? My shoes? What do you mean? Those shoes on your feet? Well, them.

I was fucking them. I was at my morning. Yeah. That's good. You're using those cores. Oh, yeah. These were my sex shoes. Oh, I'm mad about it, but I'm very glad about it as well.

Okay, great. I'm going to stop you right there. Now, Jason, is this bringing up a trap for you? It's bringing up something. Yeah, I feel like you might want to trap this experience. Yeah. Because this, I think, could be a helpful trap for you. I don't want to speak.

You have a fabulous career. I don't want to imply you need any coaching. But if you want to try the trap, you want to try the trap method. You probably want to trap this. Okay, yeah. Okay, yeah. Trap this, and maybe he jumps into the scene now. Yeah, yeah, sure.

Okay, yeah. Do you want to be... I'll be Julia Roberts. Perfect. Okay, so you are at... I want to fuck these shoes, which I feel is part of your own self. You're bringing the part, which I support. That's great.

That's great. Go ahead. I'm going to be like, oh, this is Julia Roberts, my prostitute. Hi. There is no way I do this bit. Nope. Without my life, my career and my reputation. Don't open your mouth.

No trap. Trap. Trap. Right? Yeah, go ahead, Trap. There's no way I can do it. Shut your trap. Well, I think there's some safe things you could say, but I understand that.

I understand it being a narrow lock. I'm going to have my... I'm going to have my Winchel's Crow nut. Yeah, the intro you got is rough. My Winchel's Crow. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, you're right. Okay.

Yeah. You know what, Tony? I feel like you weren't supporting your scene partner very well. So that's 10 hours of extra credit F and you can't make that up. Damn. I'm going to have to do that. Why don't you be the other person in the seat? Who was the other person?

It was... I could be Gary Marshall directing. Yes. That's good. There we go. Just be careful. All right. And he did the voice of someone on the street as well.

He did the voice of someone on the street. Sure. Yes, yes, yes. Okay. Yes. Hey, Jason Alexander's character. Cut. Cut.

That was perfect. Hey, Jason Alexander's character is good. Next scene. Let's do the next scene. All right. Now what do you think of the trap method now? Okay, the trap method works. It's pretty easy.

It's pretty good, right? Yeah. Makes a lot of cogent sense. Yeah. I got to tell you, I'm never going to look at a movie the same way again. Yeah. You're just going to think about it. I may just never look at a movie.

Yeah. This has opened up my... I understand. There are so many things I understand now. That's right. You know, when you know how the sausage gets made. Yeah, wow. Yeah, sometimes it can hurt your appreciation of the art,

or sometimes it can help it. And who needs to look at a movie when you can just hear it? That's all I want to say. With all the room tone. Yeah, with all the room tone, I'm sure. You were starring in that PSA for a while. That's where I recognize you from. Who needs to look at a movie?

I say, who needs to look at a movie when you can hear it? Now, did you... The more you know. Did you feel bad about the fact that you were on screen in that moment? Yes, but I... And people were like, you're right. We're looking at you and we don't like looking at you. Hey, I wasn't directing it.

What am I supposed to do? Gary Marshall? No, it wasn't gay, it was Penny Mush. Oh, Penny. That was a Penny. That was a Penny. Classic Penny. Director of very few movies, but they were all really good.

Solid. Yeah. Do you know something that was a real trap for me? Was a friendship between her and Rosie O'Donnell on Rosie O'Donnell's daytime talk show. Really? That's a huge trap for me. You think about that often.

Oh, it gets me glad so fast. They were dear friends. Did you ever go on the Minions ride over at Universal Studios? Oh, that's a trap. That's a sad trap. Ever make you crap? Yeah, only every time. Yeah.

It's good, right? The Minions are funny. We can agree the Minions are funny, right? Oh, the Minions are hilarious. We all agree on that. The Minions are funny? I have never seen the Minions. Oh, Jason.

Jason, you got to do an episode of my show. Scott hasn't seen. We'll watch the Minions. We'll all agree the Minions are funny. Really? All right. I'm up for it. Okay, great.

Minions are Steve Carell, right? Steve Carell is a part of that. Steve Carell grew. Steve Carell. Yeah. He watches movies 20, 30 years later. Yeah, yeah. Exactly.

The Minions will do it in about 20 years. Can you come by? I need to go to you. You bet. No, I'll be there. Who have you worked with? Have you worked with? You and 25 years of junior college students.

And none of them went on to anything? I mean, not anything. You know, some of them are theater actors or as you wouldn't know their names. Theater educators. A lot of theater educators. Oh, I wouldn't know their names. You didn't know my name. Well, that's a good point.

You introduced me as an acting coach, not my acting coach of 2.5 months. I'm so sorry. And I should have known the name Trap. Spelled with three P's at the end. It's very strange. Yeah, I added one. Oh, you added one. Oh, so.

Well, I think there was a trap in the union. There was already a trap in the union. Yeah, there was already a trap in the union. I am but a humble union gal. Me too. I'm but a humble union guy. After, but I didn't buy into SAG when they merged me. Really?

So you're not a partisan. You refuse. I refuse. I said, I don't want to get it this way. You want to earn it? I want to earn it. You want to be tapped? Please, please.

Someone tapped Hartley me. And of course I'm a member of IOTC for 2069. Okay. I love it. Obviously, but come on. Trap it, Scott. Trap it. Trap it.

Trap it. Trap it. Trap it. Trap it. Trap it. Trap it. Trap it. And we're at a convenience.

Across the street actually. Well guys, we're unfortunately running out of time. I don't need to tell you. I know, Scott. Because I know. I feel horrible about this. Scott, you have 10 hours of extra credit f and you can't make that up. I'm sorry.

You can't make it up. We only have time for one final feature on the show, and that's a little something called plugs. I got scared at the end. I'm going to trap that. That was your production. That's amazing. That was the gimme plug shimmy by Brandon E. Gailer.

Thank you to Brandon E. Gailer. If you have a plug theme you want to submit, head over to CBBworld.com slash plugs and you can submit those and get played on the show. Guys, what do we want to plug? Obviously, really no really is out there in podcast world right now. I had big news breaking today. Want me to plug it? Yes.

It was released in the New York Times today. I will be making at the age of 63 after all my years in the theater. I'm directing my first Broadway show this summer. It is called The Cottage starring Eric McCormick, Laura Belbundy and Lily Cooper. Congratulations. It will be starting performances in July of 2023 and playing through October. Really? No, really.

The lead playing on my birthday, July 2. And do you need an acting coach? We will not be playing then. Do you need an acting coach? I was glad you brought that up on this trap because I want to talk about. Okay, fantastic. Locking in those chairs. You're going to Broadway.

Oh, yeah. Eric's a big trapper, I can tell. Oh, yes. There's a lot of traps. Where's the song time? Where's it playing? It's going to be at the Hayes Theater. The Hayes.

Right next door to Saudi. I thought you were going to say The Hague. No, not The Hague. Not playing at The Hague. No, I'm afraid. Congratulations. Thank you very much. That's wonderful.

And that's approximately, sounds like a three-month run? Four-month run? It's a 16-week run. Yes, indeed. That's called a limited engagement. Wonderful. And then you get better actors because when you go see a real Broadway show. No way but up.

When you see a real Broadway show, it's 13 months. So you get the worst actors because they're people who don't have anything else to do for 13 months. But like you, you get to do a 16-week thing so you get really good actors. That's right. You nailed it. What? With the long runs?

It's very hard to get a celebrity to do anything more than 16 months. Yeah, they asked me to play Shakespeare at something rotten. I'm not going to do that. Peter, anything separately you want to plot? I'm just going to Jason's show on Broadway if I can get the kids. Is this the first time you're hearing about it? I actually know I know that he was doing it and I'm still fuming a bit because he's going away, but that's okay.

We'll make it work. Wonderful. Did you really know really? You guys' friendship is an inspiration from breakfast to this. Yeah, pretty amazing. Look where we came. Wow. Look where we ended up.

We're inspiring. What does it inspire exactly? It inspires maybe I can have a human relationship like that at some point. Do you have a best friend? I think the name's Praig the Whisperer. I don't know about that, but a lot of people say like, oh, my wife's my best friend is like, no. No, I mean really.

My best friend is Steve. Oh, Steve. Yeah. Good guy. What does Steve do? Steve's a wonderful man. I keep him very private. I don't like to talk about it.

Okay. This is the first time Steve's going to want to talk about it. He's okay with it. What industry? Give us an industry. Oh, he works in the Corona industry. Well, there you go. So you're making jokes about Steve.

He's very uncomfortable. He sold you those Crohnas. It would surprise you to know. He's the one who sold you the Crohnas. We have to have him on. We really know really. He's trapped. Could I be on your show?

I don't. You've trapped him a little too far. He's made of traps. Yeah. Could I be on your show? I don't know anything about anything. Is that the kind of person you like to have on your show? Let's find the thing about you that would make people go, really?

Okay. This is a challenge. This is a challenge. You really know released him. What? He was early in on the podcast thing. You really know. I don't want to hear a podcast about a podcaster.

Do they? I didn't say we're going to do that. Maybe they do. Hey. Hey. Tony Nels, what do you want to plug? Well, of course, I want to plug Avatar the Way of Water. Because you worked on that.

To Leslie. It's boring though, isn't it? I think it's pretty boring. But the sound is great. Especially when you get underwater. You hear splash, splash, splash. Really good whales. Yeah.

I had to mic up a lot of different areas of the set in order to get the right sound. Yeah. Wow. I also did everything everywhere. All at once. Banshees of it is shearing. So you've done everything that's out there for the Oscars this year. Did you do tar?

I didn't work. Oh, because there's a lot of sound in tar. That's our biggest competition. I feel like the tar guy is going to get us this year. Yeah. Room tone Totino is his name. Room tone Totino? Yeah.

Yeah. He's my direct competition. For every 12 Oscar-winning movies I do, he does one. And I hear he's a scab. He's not a union guy. He's not a buzzer. He's a very complicated non-union guy. He's out there breaking up ticket lines.

Is that true? He's over there. He sticks and bats. He drives by. He's got a hose in his car somehow. Just sprays us. Oh, yeah. I've got a blue podcast called Scott Hasn't Seen.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Jason's going to be on that. I do sound on that. Yeah. And I'm searching for your name. Where did I write it down? Hold that pencil. Okay.

There it is. I didn't trap your name, unfortunately, still. Oh, jeez. Yeah. Filomena Trap. What do you want to call it? Yeah. I'm going to be directing a production of Three Sisters at Fullerton Junior College.

If anyone wants to come see that, you can listen to the Off Book podcast or watch Play by Ear on Dropout. You can stream shows on Dropout. That's incredible. Thank you. I didn't know I had any of that meant. But with Three Sisters, you can't even get to the four core emotions because there's not enough actors.

Yeah, there's only three of them. There's not. You can't. So I have to cut one. I've decided to cut Mad. So, yeah. I mean, Three Sisters, a lot of them are mad, as I recall when I read it. Yeah, mostly on Wee.

Oh, okay. His Three Sisters is about three black women. It should be. Don't answer that. You'll get canceled. I want to plug, hey, guys, the Comedy Bang Bang book is coming out in just a couple of months in late April and I just got mailed a copy today and it is pretty cool. I got to say, I think, I was telling a friend, I was like, is this going to be worth the

money because I've only seen a flat PDF of it on a computer screen and I picked it up and it's really good. I think people will really, really like it. And you're doubling the price now, right? Yeah. And now I saw it was worth the money. I was like, let's jack this up. People can get it anywhere, books are sold.

But if you're looking for links, go to CBBworld.com slash book. And while you're at CBBworld.com, you can hear all the archives of this show as well as different shows like Scott hasn't seen or CBB presents. We just put out a Alamone Tony, Valamone Shoney special. Oh, Alamone Tony. That's my cousin. Good guy. You know Alamone Tony?

Yeah, he's from the Tony family. A lot of the people in our family know him. Oh, all the Tony's Tony. Got it. Got it. Got it. So head over to CBBworld.com for all that. All right.

Let's close up the old plug bag. So we take them up and shut them down and then those are made for locking. It's time to open the plug bag, open the plug bag, open the plug bag, open the plug bag, open the plug bag, open the plug bag. Wow. Wow. It's right. Take a lot longer to close that bag than open it.

It's like Pandora's box once you open it up. Pandora, wonderful from Avatar. I was on Pandora. Oh, I want to go back. That was Take A Plug on the Wild Side by Danny Defibrillator. Thank you so much to Danny Defibrillator. That was a good one. To be honest, with the raw material that you guys have to work with, I'm surprised you are

able to come up with such great remixes every week. If you want to make a remix, all the stems are over there at CBBworld.com slash plugs. Guys, I want to thank you so much, Jason, Peter. So great to meet you, Peter. So great to see you again, Jason, a huge fan and really hope that you stick with the podcast thing. Really? No, really?

That's right. That's right. Good to me. How long do you think you'll do it for? Are you in this for the long haul? Oh, yeah. We got there. Yeah, there's legal.

Yeah. We owe them. You owe them a bunch of episodes. I'm just making a mistake in podcasting. They paid up front. A number is like 104 or something like that. Until Steve gets his own podcast. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, my good friend Steve. Yeah. Well, good luck with it. I always love welcoming new podcasters. I'm sure you do. Welcome to the family. Welcome to the family. Tony Nails.

Yeah. So great to see you. Yeah, yeah. Great to meet you. Yeah. Before we go, Scott. Okay, I think we got it. That's how you trick people into getting room toned by just taking a long pause.

Sometimes I got to do what I got to do. I understand. And fill me in a trap. Good to see you. Good to see you again. There you go. Let's not make it another 15 years before I see you. That'd be great, Scott.

All right. We'll see you next time. Thanks. Bye.