Comedy Bang Bang: The Podcast - Jason Woliner, Lily Sullivan, Will Hines, Casey Feigh
Episode Date: January 16, 2023Director extraordinaire Jason Woliner (Borat Subsequent Moviefilm) joins Scott to talk about his new docuseries Paul T. Goldman that has been 10 years in the making. Then, cruise ship worker Chippy Di...pps stops by to talk about her latest cruise line job. Later, coffee impresario Bill Smither drops by to talk about his special cafe experience. Plus, Joey Salsa stops by to share some exciting news.
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I bought a zoo too, but you don't see me make a movie about it.
Welcome to Comedy Bang Bang.
Ah yes, wet weather pounding the Southland here as we record this episode of Comedy
Bang Bang.
Welcome to the show.
My name is Scott Ackerman, a very rainy episode here today.
We hope that won't affect it, but if you hear the pitter-patter of little sprinkles,
please forgive us.
I'm Scott Ackerman.
We have a great show coming up a little later.
We have a person who works in hospitality, we also have a coffee impresario, and this
is incredible.
Come here a little, even later, we have a person with exciting news.
So that will be in C block, I believe, but before we get to them, let's, the stars are
back.
Look, what are we even saying?
The stars are back.
And we have a huge star here on the show today returning to the show.
He's been on once, twice.
I think maybe only once.
Maybe only once.
What were you doing?
Why were you...
I was me.
I was...
No, but why were you on the show?
Talk into this.
Oh, I was...
I...
You can bring it closer to...
You don't have to like...
We were...
Lunge forward to reach it.
It comes to you.
I forget.
I don't think it was a specific, maybe I was doing Eagle Heart, an adult swim show at
that time.
Something like that, but it's been a while.
It's been probably almost 10 years.
Almost 10 years since he's been on the show, but he has an exciting new project.
He wouldn't come on for the Borat movie, but he...
They wouldn't let me.
No, I wasn't allowed to talk about it until way later.
Okay, sure.
But now that he has a lesser project that he needs a little boost, he's willing to come
on to comedy bang bang.
His new show, Paul T. Goldman, has been on Peacock, streaming on Peacock, the season
finale of which will be on this Sunday.
Please welcome back to the show, Jason Walner.
Thanks, Scott.
Thanks so much for having me.
Oh, really?
I wasn't able to do podcasts for Borat.
I didn't...
Mm-hmm.
Then later on...
Say my wife.
A few months later that...
My wife.
Thank you.
That's all I wanted?
I don't say that.
You could have come on and just dipped in and said my wife and then left for an episode.
Of course, Jason, we've known each other a long time.
You were the director and some people called you...
I know we've talked about this on the show.
Some people called you a member of Human Giants and...
I don't know how that happened.
Yeah, I mean, I was technically, it was a four-person...
Everyone's thought there'd be a promotional picture and you'd be included.
I don't...
Yeah, I think a lot of you were confused if they watched that show and just assumed...
Because you never popped up.
Yeah, so there was one guy that...
Where's this good-looking guy wearing glasses?
Where is he?
Chubby little guy at the time.
Yeah, people must have...
You wanted to let everyone know that you've lost that one.
No, I'm not as fat as I was.
I think people must have watched it and assumed that one member of the group wasn't very funny
and they just didn't put him in any sketches.
I mean, they even put Terry Gilliam in certain sketches.
You never popped up.
Yeah, no, never once, I don't think.
Yeah, but that's where we got to know each other from and then you've had a storied career.
You worked on Eagle Heart and...
I'm trying to think of anything else before boring.
Basically, I just directed stuff.
I did a lot of stuff with Brett Gelman, friend of the show.
Yes, did you do 1,000 Cats?
Uh-huh, yes, that was that and we did a lot of stuff.
I'd Last Man on Earth and directed other TV shows, Parks and Recreation and a bunch of stuff here and there.
You're not auditioning.
You're on the show, don't worry.
All right, all right.
But then a couple of years ago during the Demi, as we call it, you directed the Borat,
the new Borat movie.
The new one.
You didn't redirect the first one.
No, no.
But I had to watch the first one to prepare.
Did you have to watch it, really?
Well, I watched it about 50 times.
Really?
Well, I wanted to make the second one as good as I could.
Were you trying to figure out all the cuts and how they hid certain things?
Yeah, I figured out the language of it because they made it intentionally look like not a great looking movie and I wanted to make sure...
Oh, that's why you did that.
Yeah.
No, because you do direct really good looking stuff and Eagle Heart, of course, looked like an action movie all the time.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, it was appropriate for that thing.
Well, that's what a director does, does he not?
They not?
Yeah, the director comes in and says, I want this to look good or I want this to look bad.
And that's basically all the decisions you made.
I came into the between two first movies.
I said, I want this to look good.
And then it came out like the way it did.
Oh, well.
Good, good.
Great.
But so let's talk about Paul T. Goldman because it's a fascinating show.
I've been watching it.
I haven't watched this new one, which just came out yesterday because we're taping it.
At press time, it hasn't come out yet.
You've seen up to four.
Okay, that's a lot.
Yeah, you've already, that's quite a lot.
That is a lot.
Well, out of six, that's a good two thirds of them.
Yeah.
But the fifth one just came out yesterday.
Yes.
And let's talk about this show.
What if you were to describe it, how would you even do that?
It's a hard show to describe.
It's probably why it took me 10 years of like pitching and trying to convince people to
let me do it.
Let's do the description first and then let's talk about the 10 years because I think that's
a fascinating story.
It's a documentary project about a man who has been on a now 15 year mission to take
down the crime ring run by his ex-wife that he thinks that may or may not exist.
So it plays sort of like a true crime documentary, one of these things you would see on Netflix
a lot of times for like a good half of it or a third of it.
There are documentary elements for sure.
Yeah.
It is about a real person.
So it would appeal to those people who like the true crime kind of stuff of like, what
was the one about the guy who was like ripping everyone off and flying around on planes and
stuff like that?
Was it the Tinder Swindler?
Yes.
The Tinder Swindler.
It plays a lot like the Tinder Swindler.
Yeah.
That was my main influence in this show.
But so it would appeal to people who like things like that.
But then there's another element to it, which is Paul T. Goldman, the person in question
who this happened to and who also then wrote a book.
He then wrote what?
He wrote basically, yeah, this guy went through this experience, thought it was worth writing
a book, thought it had an incredible experience, wrote it into a book, thought it would make
a great movie, wrote it into a screenplay, started contacting people on Twitter and tweeted
at me and told me as such, show me I had an incredible thing happen to me, I made a book
in the screenplay.
So a third of it then is the movie that he has written about it.
Yes.
Starring himself.
Yeah.
We shot many scenes from his screenplay and then other things that he wrote about his story
with him starring as himself.
Yes.
And he is not an actor.
Not before this project.
No.
He now is an actor.
I think he's the only actor who could have played Paul T. Goldman.
So you have him surrounded by these professional actors doing these scenes from his actual movie
that he wrote about this.
And then the other part of it is sort of a documentary about the process of doing this.
Yeah.
I mean, it's all kind of trying to look into his brain and see what makes him tick and
see what's real and what's not and kind of figured out this very interesting to me guy.
Right.
Let's talk about how you got involved because he just kind of tweeted you out of the blue
one day.
Is that what happened?
Yeah.
I got a tweet.
He added me.
You got a tweet?
I got a tweet.
What a great day.
I got it.
Yeah.
It was 2012.
It was the kind of golden age of fun Twitter and people getting jobs from it.
Yeah.
It was not getting fired from it.
It was a whole different thing.
And he said, yeah, I have an incredible story and my screenplay is written and you should
direct this movie.
So I clicked on his Twitter and not surprisingly, he had tweeted the exact same tweet to like
literally hundreds of other people.
Everyone that said, you know, director, producer, he was trying to, you know, he was knocking
on a hundred doors and one answered one answered.
So how did I mean, you get this tweet, you know, do you say to yourself, oh, this seems
like an interesting fellow or?
Yeah.
I got the tweet and I clicked on it and behind the scenes process.
I made it.
You know, when you click on the tweet, you make it bigger.
Yeah.
I did that.
Wow.
And then there was a link.
His website at the time was called Duplis.
His book is called Duplicity.
It's on Amazon.
You should read it.
It's an incredible book.
His website was Duplicity online.
He shot a video of himself that's still on YouTube where he talks about and so I saw
him for the first time and he was a funny guy.
He was an interesting guy.
He was like a kind of a neboshi kind of goofy guy talking about a very serious thing and
talking about bringing down this crime ring and empowering himself.
And so I was interested enough that I read the book and just became completely, I read
the book in an hour and just became completely obsessed with it for now.
Is that because you're a fast reader or it's a short book or did you skip words?
I'm not a fast reader and it's not a short book.
But it was just so compelling.
Yeah.
I just fell in love with his voice that every page of it blew my mind in 10 different ways.
And so then, so this was 10 years ago, did you reach out and say, I want to do something
with this or?
I did eventually.
I took a few months to kind of just watch his internet activity, just monitor to make
sure that monitor his downloads and usage.
Just to make sure he wasn't crazy.
I didn't know this person.
I didn't know if he was a dangerous guy.
I didn't know if he was mentally unwell.
I wanted to really figure out, was this the right kind of person to approach?
I didn't want to approach someone who was not well, but eventually I determined I didn't
think he had mental problems.
I didn't think he was a dangerous guy.
And so I reached out to him.
And you're not a doctor though.
I'm not a doctor.
We should make that clear.
I became one to make this assessment.
I did go to medical school.
I became a psychologist.
I've been a doctor for 10 years.
You could have done it that year.
No, it was more like a hunch, which I mean, that's how a lot of doctors operate anyway.
Yeah.
Of course.
So I felt like, okay, this guy is like.
Especially Fauci.
Am I right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's get into that.
Yep.
So I know I just felt like, oh, he's in the zone of the type of people that documentary
projects that I've loved have been about like Grizzly Man or American Movie or kind
of like odd outsiders who are kind of very driven to tell their story to the world.
And he kind of seemed in line with that and seemed worth exploring basically.
So did you pitch it around to places and no one bit for 10 years or what exactly?
They were like a bunch of, I would say nibbles, but more like big bites and then they would
like spit it out along the way.
Like I got, I got a company involved, this company Caviar and they paid for me to like
interview him and that interview was in a lot of the show and then started pitching
it around.
Eventually Hulu bit and then they paid for a pilot and then they said, no, thank you.
Now, is any of the pilot is still usable?
Yes.
You got to use it.
So you got the pilot back.
I got the pilot back.
It costs some money.
We paid them.
We got the back and most of the first episode of the show is this pilot that we shot in
2017.
Yeah.
Then the pandemic happens and you direct Borat and it kind of seems like maybe that opens
the door to people going like, oh, I understand what Jason does now in terms of like this
sort of fits into that kind of thing.
Yeah.
It helped a lot where I could, I mean, to me it's a very different kind of thing than
Borat.
Borat is a comedy character.
Does Paul say my wife ever?
He does, right?
He does say my wife.
He does a lot.
Maybe it is a lot like Borat.
That is the defining characteristic of Borat.
We all know he says my wife.
Yeah.
He refers to her.
As his property.
But yeah, doing that when you do a successful thing that's unlikely, I think that's what
let Peacock feel okay about taking the chance on this.
Right.
And it is a risky kind of thing.
I mean, it's not a normal type of show.
It's not a normal show.
I'm learning that more and more now that it's out in the world and people are seeing it,
I'm remembering how not normal it is.
Right.
It's great because it kind of feels like a show from like 2022 when there was Peac streaming
and they would buy a lot of stuff and not just like junk it and bury it and take it
off the streaming services without ever showing it.
You know, it kind of feels like one of these things of like, oh wow, back when these streaming
services first started, they had a lot of money and they would, you know, take a risk
on something.
And, you know, so it feels like something of a bygone age in a way.
Of 2022.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's like, I mean, luckily, yeah, Peacock's kind of new.
I mean, no one, you know, it's like, well, that doesn't feel like a Peacock show, but
it's like no one knows what a Peacock show is.
They don't, they're still figuring it out.
Maybe everything will feel like this because it's such a big success.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Well, it's a great show and the exciting, it's six episodes.
It's very gripping.
My wife and I have been watching it, socket to me.
Wow.
Now who's the borat?
Oh, shit.
We've been borat it.
We've been watching it and it's very gripping and very funny and I don't want to say exactly
where it goes, but, and I mean, I don't even know the last two episodes where it goes,
but it goes somewhere.
Yeah.
It keeps kind of taking.
Yeah.
Every time I think it's done of like, oh wow, they've told the entire story, I look down
and go, oh no, there's two more episodes.
There's an hour and a half left.
Yeah.
For you to watch.
I must be going somewhere.
It's going somewhere.
Episode six out this Sunday and catch up on all of it on Peacock, Jason Walliners here.
We need to get to our next guest.
If that's all right.
Jason, what do you think?
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
It's okay?
Yeah, that's all right.
It's all right.
Do you want to talk to her?
No, no, I'm good.
You have anything else?
That was it basically.
That's it?
Yeah.
All right, great.
Let's get to our next guest.
She's in hospitality and we've talked to her once before when we were on tour.
I can't remember what city, but feels like feels like New England somewhere.
But let's talk to her.
She works on a cruise ship.
Please welcome back to the show Chibi Dips.
Hey, my God, it's so fun to be on land again.
I am.
I'm all over the place right now.
I told you whenever I come on land, I'm like, you're sort of swaying side to side right
now.
Please don't vomit.
Does the reverse ever happen where people who primarily are in the sea, they get on land
and they get landsick?
You know what happens is you shit.
Oh, it's the other way.
Yeah, so you just...
It's the opposite.
When you're on land for too long, you just shit your pants.
South of the equator, though, you vomit and if you're seasick, you shit.
Exactly, and it goes the other way.
Interesting.
Wow.
Wait, does shit come out clockwise?
It goes counterclockwise.
I guess I never realized that it came out a certain way.
Welcome back to the show.
This is Jason.
Hi, Jason.
Have you ever seen Borat?
I have seen clips of Borat.
Just clips on the cruise ship?
Have they not ever shown it in the movie?
They've never shown it.
No.
They just play Groundhog Day on repeat on the ship.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
That seems metatextual to me.
I don't know what that word means.
Well, Jason's a director and...
Wow.
Oh my gosh.
Wow.
And a writer as well?
Yeah.
And you put pen to paper?
Sure, yeah.
As a scribe?
Yeah, I've written.
Oh.
Like a diary or something, like a journal?
Yeah, yeah.
Some...
No, just, you know, some TV shows.
Yeah, some TV shows.
No, okay, okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, that's awesome.
Anything that I might know from the cruise ship?
Probably not.
What...
No, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
What kind of entertainment do you, besides Groundhog Day, do you get on the cruise ship?
You get a human performers, right?
Live performers on the cruise ship?
Oh, yeah.
Wonderful, amazing stand-up comedians who come on.
They do real fun jokes about women being stupid.
And a lot of my wife jokes, actually, that's what I was going to say.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
They get a big...
Maybe this is the year of my wife again.
My stupid fucking wife, my dumb fucking wife.
Yeah.
Wow.
It's awesome.
Y'all would love it.
Y'all...
Do you have a wife?
Is that why you relate to these?
Or are you a wife?
I am a wife.
I'm a wife on land, but also at sea.
Oh, you aren't...
With the same person?
No, different people.
So I have my land husband and I also have my cruise ship husbands, plural, because there's
a lot of turnover on the ship.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I've worked on there for 20, 25 years now, just on the ship.
Did not leave.
I think I told you...
Turnover sounds like what I tell my women when I have sex with them.
Jesus Christ.
You tell them to flip over, you don't do any of the work.
Yeah.
So you think when you have sex with someone, I should physically turn them over?
Yeah.
Do the work.
Do the work.
Move them around.
Pick them up.
Like a rag doll?
Yeah.
Rag doll.
That's how you...
Look, when I have sex with people, I just lay and they throw me around.
And they throw me around.
Oh, okay.
And you're tall, too.
I am?
Yeah.
Usually, you make women so small.
I am very tall, no.
Yeah.
How tall are we?
I'm 6'2.
6'2, yeah.
I'm 6'2 and a half, so...
Why?
You seem like a kind of guy who lies about his height.
Just about my height or about everything?
About everything, but...
Oh, okay.
What about your height?
All right.
Well, we've met once before and did we like each other?
We met on the Hentai cruise.
Oh, that's right.
The Hentai cruise.
Yeah.
Scott loves Hentai.
I don't know if you know this.
I didn't know that, no.
Apparently, I love Hentai.
He loves.
He's obsessed with Hentai.
Which is tentacle porn.
Is that what it is?
He loves having sex with octopuses.
Because they do all the work.
Yeah.
They do it all.
Yeah.
They can flip you over.
Yeah.
Flip themselves over.
So we...
Did you miss me?
I barely remember talking to you.
When I heard you were on the show, I was like, have we ever spoken before?
What did we talk about?
I'm a big impression.
You loved me.
What did we talk about, even?
We talked about me being on the cruise, how I got on the cruise, which is I took a cruise
with my husband and my son.
Your land husband.
Right after I gave birth to my son.
Right after?
Yeah, right after.
Fresh.
Fresh.
I mean, they're in fluids when they're in the womb.
So it must have been kind of like a second home.
Why have you done so much about babies?
Fluids.
Yeah.
So, well, basically I gave birth.
It was not a big deal for me.
It just almost fell out kind of situation in the bathtub.
Oh, you were...
It was a water bath.
I had a home water bath.
Oh, really?
And was it a planned home water bath?
Home water.
You were just in the bathtub and it came out.
I was just in the bathtub, came out.
Extin salts, you know, which was bad because the baby absorbs it through its skin.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Okay.
So does your baby have salty skin?
Super salty skin.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
Tiny as whores.
I'm so sorry.
It's so sad.
So, no, but this is 20 years ago.
So then we got on the ship and we had a great time that whole week.
And then I just turned to my husband and I said, you know what, I'm going to stay.
I'm going to stay.
Y'all go back.
And then I just stayed and I got a job on the ship and I worked and I worked.
And then, you know, I'll just send the messages occasionally on Facebook or something like
that and just be like, you know, thinking back to...
Yeah.
Have you seen the child since?
Not in face to face.
No.
Because, you know, when I come on land, like right now, I'm only here for an hour.
Right.
So you have time to do a podcast and then you...
You're lucky.
Because normally I would be doing real fun land stuff.
Right.
Yeah.
I'd be going to...
To a t-shirt shop, getting a souvenir.
There's plenty of t-shirts on the ship.
Oh, there are?
Lots of beach.
What do you do on land that you can't do on the ship?
Oh, go to Burger King, stand by the playpen.
The playpen at Burger King.
Oh, okay.
It's one of those old ones that still have the playpins.
Oh, okay.
Where did you dock near here?
Oh, you know, Santa Monica area.
Santa Monica.
Santa...
How'd you get here from Santa Monica?
Why do you care about that?
That's so boring.
What did you do?
Did you go...
If you were at the pier, did you go down then to PCH and then come up to the 405?
I'm not going to help with this.
No, I got in an Uber and I said, you know, take me to Scott Ockerman.
He knew exactly where he was.
Oh, interesting.
Nice to see you.
Everyone knows where you are.
So, how's it...
I mean, 20 years, you have a 20-year-old child and you're still married.
I can't believe your husband hasn't divorced you.
Oh, yeah, no.
We're very married.
We're in love.
We're so in love.
But you never see him?
No.
And really, on the communication, I'll look at my wall.
He'll say, you know, thank you for that, Chip.
Your Facebook wall.
My Facebook wall.
Oh, yeah.
And, you know, obviously, I've been working for...
I was working for Randall.
Obviously, y'all know my story.
Because I was on that one time and you remember everything about me.
And you definitely listened to that episode.
Definitely, yeah.
Yeah, no.
What was I going to say?
I used to work for Rat in the Hat Cruises.
Rat in the Hat Cruises.
Oh, okay.
Oh, that's right.
We talked about rats have jobs on your ship.
Is that right?
It depends on the theme of the cruise.
Oh.
So, sometimes, you know, we have doggie cruises, we have kitty cruises, we have rat in the
hats, run the whole ship.
Are they rats dressed like the cat in the hat?
They're rats in hats.
But are they in cat in the hat?
Cat in the hat hats?
Like they're at a rave in the 90s?
Sure.
Or like, Jamiroquai?
Yeah.
Little tiny caba hats, little tiny bird rides.
Okay.
Like captain, like ship hats or are they...
Sure.
Are they dressing for the job they have or the one they want?
All types of hats.
And do they work or are they just loose on the ship?
They work.
They make the omelets.
They make the teppanyaki.
People are okay with rats preparing their food?
Oh, yeah.
No.
They were, for sure.
Well, they're paying...
I mean, they're paying to see that.
I would pay to go on it and see it.
I'd bring some snacks, maybe.
Yeah, no.
For the rats or for you?
For the rats, yeah, just to encourage them.
Oh, come on.
You'd bring snacks for regular cruise ship workers?
Yeah.
They're fine.
I saw him on the cruise.
He was just in that theater watching them and not stop.
The whole time.
Wow.
Are we gonna have octopus tonight?
No.
Wait, I eat it as well.
Oh, yeah, you do.
Well, I got a new job.
I'm working on a new...
Oh, a new cruise line?
Oh, yeah.
And this one's fun because it's all different things.
So this is splashy, splashy cruise ship.
She splashes...
She splashes.
She splashes.
She splashes.
She splashes.
She splashes.
She splashes cruise ships.
Yeah.
And so we have all different types of cruise ships.
I mean, the list goes on and on and on.
Why don't you say one of them?
And on.
One or two, maybe?
What have we got?
Really?
So you're...
You've tapped out at zero?
Bat cruises.
We got squirrel cruises, bat cruises, rabies cruises.
Rabies cruises.
Yeah.
So if you get rabies, you come on the cruise.
Oh, okay.
Then what do you do?
Then you die.
Oh, my God.
Rabies is 100% fatal.
I don't know if you know that.
Yeah, I knew someone who thought they got bit by a bat.
They didn't think they got bit by a bat.
They did get...
There was a bat in their house.
There was a bat in their house, right?
And then if you...
If there's a bat in your house, you have had a bat encounter.
And her husband had some sort of a rash or something like that.
No, no, no.
You get this story all around.
How do you know these people I know?
This story was on Facebook.
It went viral.
Oh, okay.
It went viral.
It went viral.
No, it's...
Sounds like I should click on that to make it bigger.
Wait, any bat in your house, you legally have rabies and have to die?
Well, legally, you've had a bat encounter.
You've had a bat encounter.
But isn't the only way to test for rabies, they have to cut your brain in half.
What?
That's true.
No.
They only...
That's the only way they can test.
Lengthwise?
I think straight down the middle, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Wait, it's down the middle.
Down the half?
That's what I'm saying.
They do it like a hamburger or they do it like a...
Like a hot dog.
Or like a club sandwich.
You cut a hot dog in half like that?
Down the middle.
Down the middle, you do.
Straight down the dog.
Half one bun with a half hot dog.
Half another bun with another half a hot dog.
I think they cut it down the middle like between your eyes.
Which I think you can survive from.
You just...
Right.
It makes like a weird person.
And what are they looking for when they do this?
Right.
A certain pattern.
A pattern of like, I think I have rabies.
Yeah, you can see that.
It eats away your brain in a certain way.
Interesting.
Like polka dots or something.
Something like that, yeah.
Wow, okay.
Did that ever happen to this person's husband?
No.
Did they cut his brain in half?
They didn't cut his freaking brain open.
He found a bat in the bed.
Climbing up the side of the bed.
Okay.
With his wife?
His wife was not there.
Oh, thank God.
She had COVID.
So wait, they separated?
She had COVID and she was in Los Angeles.
This is the kind of husband who was not like, oh, you have COVID.
Well, I'm going to get it.
Just go, let's sleep together.
Well, this is more successful.
So he's been working a job.
Say no more.
The man is more successful in a relationship.
You know, I've been encouraging you so much every time I say,
you got to do stand-up on the ship.
Keep it running.
I really wish.
You're so good.
Give us some of your stand-up.
Does it have to be hentai themed stand-up?
Because that's the only cruise I want to do.
That's the only thing in your brain.
That's all you remember.
So octopuses, they have eight arms, right?
Like.
Yeah.
Woo.
Why don't, then why don't we have eight dicks?
Oh, it took me a second.
But boy, did they worth it.
There's a thinker.
That's one you'll get on your way back to your cabin.
Well, I already got it.
Okay.
Well, good.
It was so good.
But please go back to your cabin.
Okay.
No, I don't go, by the way, you know, when I sleep in, I told you this,
but we all sleep multiple people per cabin.
Per cabin.
It's just you're rotating through sexual relationships.
Oh, yeah.
Of course.
We always want big, um, like kind of orgy when you're in that,
those little cabins because it's like 26 people and we sleep in a little chain.
Um,
How do you sleep in a chain?
What does that mean?
I wrap my, my legs around your neck.
Oh, okay.
Wrap your legs around his neck and then he wraps his legs around my neck.
And then, you know, things get crazy.
We all flip over.
Um, okay, but I want to keep talking about my cruises.
Okay.
So have you thought of more?
Shut up.
I know my cruises.
Okay.
Well, you just started working there.
So I know you can be forgiven for not knowing every single year.
Yeah, I know.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
So what do you have?
What kind of cruises are on the splishy splashy?
Oh, Jesus.
There's all sorts.
There's, um, I mean, obviously people, uh, can do it for like self-help reasons.
Can do what?
Go on the cruise for self-help reasons.
And it's a self-help themed cruise?
Yeah.
No, it's like where you're going to get better on the ship.
Okay.
You know, kind of thing.
Got it.
People who suffer from diseases like they love Disney or they love musical theater,
they come on and they get cured and they get cured.
So I was thinking you should come, you love musical theater.
Yeah.
And I used to work for Disney as well.
So that would be a good cruise for you.
You could get better.
I could get better.
We're playing for you.
This sounds like that kind of like, what is that, that, uh, treatment that people go
through to not like musical theater anymore?
Um, what did they do?
Yeah.
It's like electrodes and stuff like that.
Shock therapy.
Yeah.
You don't have that.
No.
What we do is we just sit them all down in a room and we, we blindfold them.
We take their mouths.
We take their legs together and we just lay them there for pretty much.
That solves it.
It solves it.
You just torture them.
Yeah.
Because in their head they're going, they're thinking of all the musical theater over
and over again.
They're like, I'm going crazy.
I can't do it anymore.
And then they're cured.
So that's extra for example.
You love it.
Alright.
Well, is that for Disney or for musical theater?
I guess they tie in together a lot of times.
Because you think about the characters.
So it's whatever you're thinking about when you get tortured in that situation you get
cured of.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Why?
You don't trust that?
You don't believe that?
I don't know.
It doesn't seem like a problem to a lot of people.
Like, oh, I think about Disney too much.
Okay.
Well, you've never been on the cruise.
Okay.
When you went on hentai, the hentai cruise that you were on was meant to cure hentai.
It was?
So you just went double down.
It was all in.
You were obsessed.
What else do we got?
We got cruises for brothers and sisters who were too touchy.
Not like they sleep together or anything, but you know, like how when they pose in pictures
they hold each other.
So this is not a cruise to cure them.
This is just for them to enjoy this.
Yeah, this one's for them to enjoy.
Okay.
So you wander around the ship just kind of like awkwardly touching your brother or sister.
You get to touch your brother or sister.
You know, you get to sit on your brother's lap, something like that, but no one's really
thinking in their heads like, well, that's a little too much.
Right, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I do know.
You ever seen that account online that's like, are they brother or sister?
Are they dating?
I have.
Yeah.
Yeah.
None of them are dating.
None of them are dating.
Okay.
So the question never needs to even come up.
No.
No.
It's just a safe space.
Right.
Safe space for them to be.
For them to be around.
Yeah, great.
What other types of cruises do you have?
What else?
We got cruises for guys who wear the little Newsy caps.
Oh, okay.
So that one's a self-help one too.
Oh, that's to cure them.
We've got to cure them.
How many are these to cure and how many are just for people to enjoy the cruises?
I'd say half and half.
Half and half.
Yeah, you know, it was safe space.
Oh, this is, there's another one.
Safe space for men to learn about how women, when they have tampons in, they can pee.
They can.
They can.
Okay.
They can't.
They can pee.
They can't.
They can.
They can, Scott.
They can pee.
Before.
Before.
But does it get on the tampon?
It does, yeah.
Not on the, not on the other, the part that's already up there.
Oh, it does.
But on the string.
The string does it.
Okay.
Did you have any other questions?
That was my only question.
Was, was the tampon gets wet with pee?
Yeah.
It does.
It does.
Okay.
But it doesn't.
So, so the P part is, is just by the string.
The part that pees.
What?
So the string.
Yeah.
So half the tampons already up there.
Okay.
Half?
Yeah.
It's about half.
Really?
Oh, is the string about half as long?
It's about half as long.
As long as the tampon itself.
You want the string to be longer?
You want it to be like a big long tail?
I thought it'd be shorter.
Shorter?
Yeah.
Like a little firecracker.
You don't want it to get lost up there.
Oh, got it.
Then you have to go in.
String, strings everywhere.
Okay.
What else you got?
Close strong.
What up?
Shut up.
We're coming up on.
We're coming up on.
The date.
Just the date.
Just the date.
No connotations other than just.
No, not the insurrection.
Just the date.
Has he been doing it before the insurrection?
Yeah.
We've been doing it for 20, 25 years.
Really?
Love January.
And when the insurrection happened, did it sort of put a damper on this cruise?
No.
So much more business.
People love it.
People love January.
Do you screen for insurrectionists or?
Oh, no, no.
Okay.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
Another cruise.
People love Johnny Depp.
I don't know that I want to go to any of these cruises you're mentioning.
What are you talking about?
You love it, Scott.
Love your hand, Ty.
All right.
Close strong.
We're coming up on a break.
I already did.
You already closed strong?
That's strong.
All right.
What else do I got here?
Cruises.
Cruises.
Cruises.
Cruises for people who love to pretend to be at the airport.
Okay.
How would that work?
We just pretend like you're at the airport.
You come.
We put you through security.
Security screening.
You lose your bags.
You have no idea where your bags are.
You go up to the front desk.
We say, the flight's been delayed.
Flight's been delayed.
You're stuck there.
Is there a Jersey Mike's that they've converted to making breakfast?
There's a subway that serves the best breakfast you've ever had at an airport.
Oh, wow.
It's just long pieces of dry bread.
A lot of people drinking at 7 a.m.
Oh, yeah.
Yep.
Trying to, some people doing it like, I'll have a Bloody Mary, like just to save face.
But then there are some people who are just like gin and tonics.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Martinis.
And, you know, it's just a safe space to pretend to be at an airport.
Yeah.
Fanta.
And are there planes flying above all the time or?
We play sound effects.
So it's a full on like a Disney experience.
We've got people on the loudspeaker like, you know, gate.
Gate 25 has changed to gate 32.
Gate 32.
Is this your job?
No.
59.
What are you doing on these cruises?
Is that, is that what you do?
Yeah, I do the loudspeaker.
Oh, okay.
So you have to make this, can you do your best airport plane sound effect?
Yeah, sure.
Ladies and gentlemen, we would like to announce that gate 59 is now gate 561.
And with customer Scott Corbin, please bring his, I hadn't thought too different.
So we know where he's going to store it when he's on.
Thank you so much.
And then do the plane, do the plane set.
Oh, no, it sounded like that one exploded.
Yeah.
Well, we're at the airport.
So people love when planes go down.
All right.
Oh my gosh.
Well, look, Chippy, this is a congratulations on your new employment.
This is incredible.
Thank you so much.
You know, I got to spend, obviously I have to spend five to 10 years on the ship.
I get, obviously I get my one hour off and I'd like to spend it with you.
I love it.
Come back anytime.
But can you stick around because we have to take a break.
Oh yeah, I guess.
You might be a little late back to the ship.
I hope that's okay.
No, they're going to leave me.
They're going to leave me, but it's fine.
Although like an Uber from here to Santa Monica beer is going to take you.
It's a full hour.
It's a full hour.
You may not get him back on the ship.
That's all I know.
I'll figure it out.
You'll figure it out.
All right.
We'll figure it out too.
We have a coffee impresario coming up later and a person with exciting news.
You do not want to miss that.
We'll be right back with more comedy bang bang after this.
Comedy bang bang.
We're back with Jason Wolliner, director extraordinaire.
Good.
Good.
And Paul T. Goldman on Peacock.
Five episodes out now, episode six this Sunday.
And is there, is there room for a sequel?
That's kind of explored in episode six.
So I don't want to give it away.
Okay.
All right.
So, but I mean, maybe he is something else.
Interesting could happen to him.
Perhaps.
Interesting thing seemed to happen to him.
All right.
Well, I'm excited to see what happens.
We also have Chippy Dippy.
You've been on the.
Sorry.
Chippy dips.
You've been on the phone trying to contact the ship.
I've noticed.
Yeah.
I'm talking to the captain right now.
Is the captain a rat currently?
That captain is a bat.
Oh, the captain is a bat and, and you're trying to hold up the
ship.
What's going on?
I'm just saying, you know, guess what?
I can't believe it.
I'm stuck at Scott Ackerman's house again.
Can't get out.
He locked the door.
So it's going to be a while.
Well, good luck to you.
I hope that you get back on the ship.
But we have to get to our next guest if that's all right.
He's a coffee impresario, which I don't exactly know what that
means, but I would imagine he makes coffee or sells coffee or
something like that.
Please welcome Bill Smither.
Hey, Scott, thanks so much for having me.
Yeah, my pleasure.
How are you?
Very good.
Thank you.
Let me, let me answer that question that you asked right
before I was allowed to speak.
And that's an impresario.
I'm a coffee sort of a cure.
We should just mention to the audience, I'm not disallowing or
allowing.
I mean, it's a free country.
You can do whatever you want.
I don't want to explicitly ban somebody from speaking or holding
back.
But it's impolite to do that.
It is impolite and you give a, I would say a pronounced glower.
A withering look.
Yes, they sort of,
Because you approached the mic and you almost answered that
question.
Rarely to go.
I shot you a look.
You shot me a look.
I felt cowed.
I felt ashamed.
Good, good.
But truly not explicitly banned.
Right.
I was within my legal rights to speak anyway.
And I do recommend that.
I just wanted to make sure that was clear to you.
If there are any lawyers listening, I do not think you have
crossed any boundaries.
Okay.
Beyond your rights.
And you would sign an affidavit.
I would sign an affidavit as long as I could add to the affidavit
that there was a glower and I did feel shame.
Okay.
But I would have tried to try to put that in the language in there.
So.
Okay.
That'd be fine.
Well, I'll have it.
I'll run it by my lawyer and we'll run it by your lawyer.
And I'm.
Yeah, we can work something out.
Yeah.
We got to do it before this episode comes out though, I think,
because.
Yes, we would have to.
So we're going to have to need for them to do this ASAP because lawyers can be
very slow.
My lawyer is quick.
Is he quick?
Really?
He's very fast.
That's why.
Mine's very slow.
So it sounds like we'll get that around a normal amount of time then.
It'll average out to about a normal lawyer time.
Okay.
I feel optimistic because I think we're in the ballpark of agreement here.
Okay.
Great.
I might have to work on dotting some I's, crossing some T's.
Sure.
Yeah.
Or dotting the T's and crossing the I's.
I don't think we've ever done that.
I want to get wild.
I'm not.
That's not spandip routine.
That bit right there.
Yeah, we're going to work that out.
But welcome to the show.
Good to see you.
Thanks so much.
Coffee.
Sorry.
Yes.
Yes.
So I'm a coffee.
Well, first off.
This is Jason, by the way.
Oh, hello.
Nice to be here.
Director.
I understand.
This is chippy chippy.
Chippy dips.
Chippy dips.
Dips.
Dips.
Okay.
Like a plural of dip.
Exactly.
It is with a Z.
Oh, it is with a Z.
Okay.
Did you spell it with an S?
In my head, I was.
Chippy dips.
Chippy dips.
My pleasure to meet you.
I've never been on a cruise, but I look forward to it.
It's a sort of bucket list.
Or you think you will be on.
It's one of those things where I imagine someday I will be on a cruise.
I feel like you got to do it before you die, but that could be any day.
I know, but I just, I think a cruise is something you need to organically arrive at and not force.
Not plan, really?
It seems like most people plan their cruises.
I don't think that's the way it's going to work out for me.
You think you'll just arrive at Harbor one day and just like chance getting on a boat
and then it sails away and you're on a cruise?
I think I'll just be going about my business, running an errand.
I'll look up.
I'm on a boat and I'm like, hey, doing this for a while.
Also, I would like to say lots of people die on the ship.
Oh, do they?
How many per cruise would you say?
Oh, 10, 12.
10, 12 per cruise.
What do they do with them?
Oh, they just, you throw the body overboard.
You never existed, you know?
Yeah.
It sounds like a nice way to go.
Yeah.
It's a beautiful way to go.
You're staring at the water.
You're staring at the sky and your eyes slowly die.
You think you just die of natural causes?
Yeah.
Nothing's killing you except for just being there, time to pass away.
I would love for you to come on and pass away.
That doesn't deter me.
I think that would be a great, you know, because I'm staring at the water, staring at the water,
staring at the sea.
Close your eyes.
You're dead.
I mean, I've certainly had visions of deaths that are a lot more traumatic than that.
Your own or someone else?
My own.
My own.
Yeah.
I guess somebody else's too.
Yeah.
Other people dying horrifically.
Yes.
Well, what I'll do sometimes for sport, I don't know if you guys do this.
You walk in down the street, you see strangers and you wonder, I wonder what kind of person
this is.
I wonder like what's going on in their life.
You know, what are they thinking about?
I wonder what they were like when they were much younger or much older.
Just sort of, you're not thinking too hard about it, but just sort of a fleeting wondering.
Sometimes when I'm in that type of reverie, I'll be like, what if they die by getting
caught in a safe?
Caught in a safe.
Caught in a safe like an old school Warner Brothers cast iron.
And so what is happening?
Someone opens the safe to get some money out of it.
And they're not looking behind them.
Like when I close my refrigerator door, I always have to look behind me to see if my
dog's head is in there.
That's what I'm thinking.
It's a dog.
Oh my God.
They're leaning over to a German shepherd, just knocks into their keyster in the safe.
Shucks.
Slam.
Eight to nine hours later, they die of thirst.
Bisexuality.
Yeah.
Oh, oh, wait.
So they're inside this?
Oh, they're inside.
Okay.
A deep, long safe.
Because it's a little more grizzly if they're bisected by the door.
Could be bisected by the door.
Like half, like half the torso just clipped.
Yeah.
Half the torso.
So what I'm.
Yeah.
So half your head, half your arm.
So just half the entire body.
Like the way you cut a hot dog.
Exactly.
Straight down the middle.
I was thinking straight down the middle, but it could be just up to the rib cage.
I was thinking like a club sandwich where it's diagonal.
I think that like an open face.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe that.
Anyway, some kind of horrific death.
And I'll be like, well, I'll never know.
You know, you keep walking down the street.
I don't know what's going to happen to that person.
Yeah.
Have you ever caught up with a person and found out if that's ever happened to them?
I've never turned around and raced after them.
But I have run into people by coincidence later.
And I'd be like, you're going to think this is crazy.
But I saw you earlier on the street.
And I don't know how this happened.
I was thinking about you getting bisected long ways by a safe.
And do you ever see them again after that?
The one time I did this, that was the only conversation I didn't have.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They were a friend's wife.
A friend's wife.
Oh.
Yeah.
And so you saw a woman.
You didn't know it was your friend's wife.
No.
You saw her walking down the street.
What caught your eye about her?
Well, I'll just be honest here.
I'm about 50 years old.
Okay.
And this woman appeared to be.
But when you say about 50, what are you?
58, 59.
You know, I don't know.
I'm in the realm of 50.
I was adopted and my birth certificate was in dispute.
Oh, in dispute?
What?
Who was disputing it?
My biological parents and adopted parents didn't get along and they had a debate about
it and they never really let me know how it worked.
Never settled.
But I know that I'm in the realm of like.
You're in the realm.
So you could be under, you could be over.
Hey, here's hoping.
Hoping for a.
It could be your birthday today.
Happy birthday.
Nice.
Yeah.
Every day.
Do you celebrate your birthday?
I do.
I haven't observed birthday.
Which day did you pick?
I picked what I think is the most fun date.
Oh, what's that?
I want you to guess.
December 25th.
January 25th.
What'd you say?
January 6th.
Oh.
Yep.
That would have been fun.
No, I picked, I picked April 15th.
Tax day.
Tax day.
Oh, that's fun.
You know why?
Because everyone's so miserable that if you can bring, you know, hey, don't worry about
it.
My birthday.
So.
I don't know that that would give me any sort of solace or comfort.
It's true.
I don't care.
Really.
It hasn't worked.
But that was my plan.
Interesting.
All right.
Anyway, I love coffee.
I love coffee and I'm an impresario.
So wait.
What attracted you to the woman?
Oh, right.
So she, she appeared to be around my age, sort of late forties, early fifties.
Right.
And so you, what would you think you had a shot with her?
No, it wasn't that.
It was just sort of like, I was relating to.
Oh, look, someone my age, sort of, I was going through some.
It's like when you see someone with the exact same model or make of car and you're like,
yeah, you do sort of like, hey, it's a community.
It's a community.
Yeah.
I was just sort of, I would be honest in that particular day.
I was insecure about my life and where I was at and how things were going.
I wonder why?
Yeah, I wonder why.
There's no reason.
I mean, I don't know anything about you yet.
Well, things that I would say are going solidly par.
Par.
You're at par.
Hey, that's where you want to be if you're golfing, right?
Par ain't bad.
It's kind of an achievement to get that.
Think about it.
If God, however you understand it to be, came to you and gave two doors.
Through this door is a random state of life you don't know, good or bad.
And this other door is par.
Like average.
Like an average life guaranteed through this door.
And the other door is a crapshoot.
Could be the best ever.
Could be the worst ever.
I would take par.
You take par every time because it's certain.
Is it the only life you're going to live?
Yeah.
Because I would say the highs and lows would be interesting if you're living like 10,
20.
You get multiple shots.
If you get multiple shots, if you're just going to live one comfort.
I think in this hypothetical scenario, it's one and done.
You go through the door and that's it.
Just an average size penis.
Yeah.
I guess it would apply to everything.
Yeah.
That was not the first thing I thought about.
But yes, sort of an average hog.
So what are we talking about?
Like four?
What size is the average one?
A little higher.
What do y'all think the average size is?
Three?
Two inches?
Well, I believe it's a little more.
Interesting.
I guess we're talking average.
It's more what your performance and use of it is.
If you're thinking about...
No, it's about the size.
I'm a size queen for sure.
Sounds like my mattress.
It's just a queen?
It does literally sound like the size of a mattress.
Very uncomfortable.
I thought you were doing well and then I hear you have a queen.
Oh God.
I don't mean to be overly grisly about sexual details,
but you're a tall lady, six foot two.
Is that part of the reason why you're a size queen?
I mean, is it more important to you?
Well, first of all, I think all women say,
I know the size doesn't matter just to make y'all feel better.
Oh, thank you so much.
Because y'all are fragile.
I am fragile and I appreciate it.
If people are lying to me, I'm glad.
When I'm getting railed in the tiny little cabin.
When someone physically turns you over.
If I can't feel it, I'm going to yell,
Code Alpha, you know.
Code Alpha.
No Delta.
That's going to bring the security team into the room.
Yeah, yeah.
This guy's got a small dick.
We need to throw him up.
What a terrible way to find out that you're not pleasing somebody sexually.
Code Alpha.
Yeah.
So, but you guys are like white coats.
I didn't even say code beta.
When I say code beta, I mean that literally.
Are those the 10 to 12 casualties on each cruise?
Absolutely.
I'm throwing them over.
Aren't we having a nice time?
We're having a great time.
I don't know what the vibe is.
I'm trying to figure out y'all's vibe.
Who's vibe?
The vibe between us and let me look down at my notes.
Michael Smither.
You don't remember someone's name when you meet them?
We just met.
You know, it's pretty.
That's a pretty anodyne.
It's an easy to forget.
You seem very average in a lot of ways.
I feel it.
I am proud of being average.
I don't see why that's something to be ashamed of.
In school, you get a C plus.
I feel like that scene is a bad gray, but it's like above average.
Doing pretty good.
Right above average.
Comfortably, invisibly above average.
Tell us about the coffee.
You want to hear about the woman?
Yeah, tell us about the woman.
I can wrap it up quick.
Yeah.
So I was insecure about my life and I was like, I wonder how she's feeling about her life.
She's a stranger.
I didn't feel that I could ask her, but that made me think about I wonder where she's
at, how she's happy with her life.
Maybe we were born around the same time.
I wonder if she remembers the same TV shows.
Like what?
M.A.S.H.
Moonlighting.
The Ends.
You know, the original V.
You say something about Moonlighting, M.A.S.H.
I said the Ends.
Matlock.
Oh yeah, Matlock.
I was on an episode of Matlock.
You were?
You were?
As a background artist, yes.
Oh wow.
Background artist?
Is that a term that only you used to describe your function on that show?
At the time?
No, we were called extras at the time and then suddenly I'm in charge and they say you've
got to call them background artists and not allowed to talk to them.
You know, Matlock had great extras, I remember.
They had a lot of color and character.
A lot of shows to get a lot of good looking people back there, but Matlock wasn't afraid
to mix in a lot of normies.
Andy Griffith very red, his complexion.
He was red at that time.
He was very red.
He was like a beat.
It's funny because I normally know him for black and white television shows.
That's true, Andy Griffith, and so you wouldn't know that.
Then on Matlock, it is exposed to the world.
That guy is red.
Yeah, suddenly Color TV's invented and it's like, why did we like this guy?
He never would have made it.
He's as red as a dank tomato.
He never would have made it in the Cinemascope era.
Exactly.
So tell us about the coffee or are you not wrapped up the woman?
I didn't wrap up the woman, but she was on my mind because of where she was at.
Later you met a friend.
Exactly.
Then I met a friend and said, hey, this is my wife.
This is my wife.
I was like, God, I saw you in the street today and I imagined the end of your life.
Yeah.
And then have you ever spoken to that friend either or ever again?
I have only spoken to him over Facebook Messenger, which is the least intimate of social media
channels.
I mean, not according to Pippi Poppy over here.
Chippy.
Chippy Dip.
I feel that Facebook Messenger is the most emotionally distant of the things.
I think it's the most erotic for sure.
The most erotic of the...
That's the only way she communicates with her husband.
I think Instagram is way more flirtatious and intimate like connection channels.
Well, what are the differences?
Something about being on the same platform with your mom, your dad, your grandma.
Not erotic.
Anyone can watch.
Anyone can say what you're posting.
My great uncle contacts me on Facebook.
It feels like a very sanitized sort of de-sexualized place.
But that's why you like it.
You want to get caught.
You want to get caught on there.
I guess so.
I would say that it's the most sterile and emotionless of these social media channels.
Instagram is flirtier.
Twitter, I would put in between those two.
Twitter is for demented people.
What about words with Friends Messenger?
Oh, that's...
You know what?
I think that's pretty intimate.
Because you've got to be friends, you have to be engaged in a task, you have to successfully
play an activity together.
There's a wear and a loser.
You're already pretty close.
And then they start putting some moves.
Yeah.
Interesting.
That's pretty hot.
I thought that might be the hottest.
Tell us about your coffee.
So I love coffee.
Great.
What makes you an impresario?
So an impresario is sort of an arranger, you know, like almost a producer.
Like some...
You're a go-between?
Like are you the man in the middle between coffee and the people who buy it?
Or...
I like to organize coffee-themed events.
Okay.
So maybe like a coffee tasting party.
Or if I think that somebody is a particularly talented roaster, I will try to connect them
with a good coffee shop.
Someone called Jeffrey Ross.
Yep.
Yeah, I do enjoy his comedy, you know, he's not afraid to...
He goes there.
Yeah, he goes there.
So you...
When you say you enjoy doing this, do you get paid to do this?
I have sometimes gotten a little money for it, but that's not what it's about for me.
I wouldn't call yourself an impresario that's such a dominant term for someone who does
this as a hobby.
I connect people that need connecting.
Yeah, I think...
I'm sorry.
Look, I've tried other terms that don't feel right.
And they just don't seem to fit.
I've tried organizer.
I've tried coffee organizer.
It's like, you organize coffee?
It's like, no.
That implies like you're alphabetizing the roast or something like that.
Yeah.
I'm dealing with the people.
I'm dealing with like the baristas.
The relationships.
Yes.
I'm trying to get the...
The Cuban...
Really producer is the best term, but in this town...
But that sounds like you're making the coffee as well.
Sounds like you're making movies about coffee.
Exactly.
Which would be so crazy.
A movie about coffee?
I mean, would you ever make that?
Jason, commit now.
It doesn't...
I'd have to kind of hear more about what the idea is.
What about making a show about it?
Like, forget about a sequel to Paul T. Goldman, because he's done.
He's tapped out.
Okay.
But this guy over here, Bill Smithers, he listened to his life.
Yeah, he seems like a very interesting guy.
Make the sequel about different people, and then suddenly like you got something.
So Jason, I could tell you'd be a nice and polite to me, and I appreciate it.
I take pride in not being an interesting guy.
Okay.
Is that really what you are most proud of?
That's one of the things I'm proud of, because look, I don't mean to talk about the young
people, but they sure do love to make it about them.
Okay.
And I like to blend in.
You know, I don't mind...
I like coffee.
I like coffee.
Yeah, that's admirable.
I think, yeah, everyone's trying to kind of make a name for themselves, and you seem
to be doing the opposite.
I'm happy to be in the background.
I don't...
A background artist of life, I might say.
You're not the matlock of life.
Not at all.
I don't need to be bright red, front and center, solving crimes.
Bursting blood vessels while I do my speeches that I barely want to memorize.
I don't mean to be...
Partly...
Talking to the director and asking him to change the blocking, the director not understanding
why and...
Bringing up that I was in face to the crowd, a movie critically regarded, and not thought
of a lot these days.
Yeah, you don't want to be that.
You want to be like me in the background.
Just do my job and I'm happy to do it.
Still as a prop.
So why are you on the show then?
Yes, so I am beginning a new project, great question.
I am a fan...
But you want to get the word out even though you don't want to make a bet yourself.
I want the project to be to get attention.
I don't necessarily need to be known as the guy who's doing it.
Right, even though you're an impresario.
Go ahead.
Even though I'm an impresario, but I'm a behind the scenes impresario, pulling the strings,
you know?
I'm like a...
Chippeto.
Yeah, I'm like a Chippeto.
I don't think he pulled any...
Coffee actors.
Well, I mean, didn't he for a while until...
No, Pinocchio was off on his own, no strings.
But pre-Blue Fairy.
No, he had no strings.
You could never have any strings.
I think at least once or twice he did some play acting with Pinocchio.
He's a puppet.
We can agree Pinocchio is a puppet.
Can't be on a puppet.
There are two things you can do with a puppet.
You can pull their strings or you can shove your hand up their ass.
I mean, his dad used to shove his hand up his ass.
What?
No, that's a string guy.
Pinocchio's a string guy.
There's no hand up that ass.
Why are you here?
So, have you heard of Starbucks Reserve?
Oh, yeah.
The nicer Starbucks.
Exactly.
So there's like Starbucks, of course.
Is it better coffee or just a better environment?
It's better coffee.
It's more select grams.
I don't think make every Starbucks a Starbucks Reserve.
Hey, I agree.
Because some Starbucks are just there for you to use a bathroom.
That's it.
Okay?
You don't care what the coffee tastes like.
It's a little pricier, first of all.
It's just a bathroom with a coffee thing attached to it.
You go, you destroy that thing and then you leave.
Right.
But these are Starbucks Reserves.
Starbucks Reserve are a little pricier, a little more better quality coffee or at least
more exotic, rare coffee blends.
The Starbucks Reserves locations themselves tend to be a little bit more kind of fancy,
sort of like slightly better, sort of like furniture.
The lighting is a bit lower and more mellow.
Rich neighborhood.
It's supposed to be rich.
It's supposed to be like a fancier Starbucks and it's more expensive to boot.
So probably the reason why they don't make them all like that is not everyone's interested
in paying the extra, but this guy loves it.
Well, also it's the theory I used to hear about Coke and Pepsi was that they were owned
by the same company, that they just had the competition there of like what's better so
that no one would ever talk about RC or anything else.
A distraction.
If we're just talking about two things of like what's better?
Well, I like Coke.
I like Pepsi.
No one's ever talking about the other.
But that's not true, right?
That is not true.
I don't think it's true.
No.
And then they used to drink Fanta and sell it to the Nazis.
It's an interesting but useless example.
No, not true at all.
How does that work?
This doesn't apply and it never happened.
But that's an interesting fact.
Yeah, it's an interesting wrong fact.
Didn't we say one earlier, an interesting wrong fact about slicing one's brain open
to find out that you have rabies?
You think that's wrong?
Oh no, I think that's right.
That's gotta be wrong.
I would like to take it up.
There's gotta be another way to tell.
There's gotta be a test.
There's gotta be another way to tell.
There's also only one person who's ever survived rabies.
Who's that?
I don't know if I believe that either.
Tim Baltz.
He had it?
He had it.
No, there is one woman.
No, there is one woman.
She survived.
I don't know who it is.
So wait, even if you get rabies, like a dog with rabies bites you, can you get it treated?
If you develop symptoms, you will die.
You will die.
Period.
But they have to be able to treat it before you develop symptoms, right?
The only way to stop it is to cut your brain in half.
You gotta cut yourself open like a hot dog.
You have to do it.
You have to get yourself straight down the center.
Unfortunately, that kills you, but you don't die of the rabies.
Which is cool because you die under your own way.
On your own terms.
So, yes, I've heard of these Starbucks reserves now that you've explained them exhaustively.
Thank you.
So I am starting an informal organization called Starbucks Reserve Reserve, which means
you are already attending a Starbucks Reserve.
And I have scouted you, and I believe that you deserve an even higher, more premium experience
than you're getting at Starbucks Reserve.
Deserved to pay for one?
Or you just...
You deserve that.
No extra cost.
No extra cost.
Oh, wow.
You enter a special club called the Starbucks Reserve Reserve, of which I am the...
Is it attached or do you have to take a bus to it?
It's right there.
I bring the experience to you.
You're building it in a Starbucks Reserve?
Yes.
Because it's not a physical location.
It is a club.
It is a cat.
That sounds like a physical location.
A club is a physical location.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's true.
It's an existing physical location.
It's not a new physical location.
Well, most buildings exist already.
I would say, like, they just renovate them.
Okay, that's true.
Is Starbucks aware of what you're doing?
No.
So you go into a Starbucks Reserve...
I go into a Starbucks Reserve.
You tap people on the shoulder?
How do you do this?
I set up camp.
I get my laptop.
Are you doing this?
Yes.
They can't kick you out of a Starbucks, by the way.
Legally?
Legally.
No one could...
If you're not disturbing, you're not causing a problem.
No matter what, you did to that bathroom.
They still can't kick you out.
So I'll go in there.
I'll set up camp.
I'm in the corner.
I'm scouting everybody.
Now, most people aren't there for hours, so...
But I'm there for hours.
So the people that you...
Sometimes you'll scout someone and go,
oh, that looks like a good one.
They'll leave before your three hours are up.
I lose a lot of people.
Okay.
But if they're really worth it, they'll be back.
And they come back and I'll walk up to them
and I'll tap them on the shoulder and say,
hey, do you want a special experience?
How do people respond to that?
It's a very polarizing question.
Do you want a special experience?
I got to walk up to my tap and say,
hey, do you want a special experience?
What percentage of people say yes to that?
80% of the conversation is over pretty quickly after this
and there's a polite and firm change to it.
Have you thought about changing what you say or what you say?
I think this is part of the selection process.
Okay, so what happens to the 20%?
20% who are intrigued.
Out of that 20, how many people just ask for clarification?
Most of them do.
Okay.
Do you want to put your finger up to silence them?
You put it against their lip?
Sometimes I won't touch them, but I do move it close to the lips.
Now, if their lips touch your finger.
That's not my problem.
That's not you.
Okay.
And I'll have an affidavit written to excuse myself from that.
And I'll just say, do you want a special experience?
Well, their lips were asking for it.
Put my finger up.
I'll be like, come with me.
They go over in the corner.
They sit down.
I set up a little TV table.
I put a nice little tablecloth over it
and set up a special roast that I have had friends of mine prepare who are expert coffee
roasters and preparers.
This is not a Starbucks roast.
It is not a Starbucks roast.
This is your friend's roast.
It is a bill roast.
You'll set this up.
Set this up and I'll give them a mug and I'll be like, try it.
This is the Starbucks reserve.
Interesting.
I didn't know you were allowed to bring your own.
That's the one thing I think you can't do is to a Starbucks.
You can't do is to a Starbucks.
I like to sell your own coffee at a Starbucks.
I think they say you can bring anything you want in here, just not your own coffee.
They really do frown on it.
Yeah.
But I don't sell it.
That's how I serve it.
I do serve it.
You give away.
Just strangers.
Have you been asked to leave, ever?
Sometimes I'm asked to leave.
By the people who work at Starbucks or by other...
By the Starbucks people themselves.
No.
Once I get them into the corner and I'm pouring them, I've had 100% success rate.
Really?
What do you define as success?
That they like it.
That they like it.
They say, thanks for doing this.
I appreciate it.
So, two things.
They have to like it and they have to thank you and that's success.
That's 100% success rate.
100% people.
Wow.
And then what happens?
Then I let them go on their day and I'm like, next time you're in here, if you want another
one, give me the old high sign.
What's the high sign?
High sign is sticking your arm fully above your head and waving and like waving.
I'm out at that point.
Well, you don't have to be.
That's a one and done for me.
I haven't had any high signs, but I'm waiting for them.
I have seen some of those regulars again.
When the Starbucks people tried to kick me out, I have an interesting technique which
I once saw a woman do in a Starbucks.
I just look at them so they'll be like, sir, can you please leave?
Can you not do this?
I'm like, no worries.
No worries.
That's so, yeah.
Just look at dead in the eyes and go, no worries.
No worries.
It's so nonspecific.
It confuses me.
It doesn't answer.
It confuses them and they just give up.
And I go back to my corner.
No worries.
No worries.
No worries.
No worries.
My worries.
No, I say it in normal.
You say it in normal, bland English.
Yeah.
So, and Starbucks was a reserve and you know, technically I don't have rights.
Do they stand there for a little bit for a while and then go, okay.
They just, yeah.
They give up.
Yeah, whatever.
It's interesting.
It's not worth it.
Wow.
I've heard that phrase.
So, I'm here to promote Starbucks Reserve Reserve.
If you're in a Starbucks Reserve.
Just any Starbucks Reserve?
Any in the country.
I move around.
So, how are people supposed to come back and find you and give you this high sign if suddenly
you moved on to Cleveland?
It's got to be the gods have to have ordained it.
Don't force things.
You believe in God?
It's like a cruise.
I believe in several gods.
Which ones?
Let's see.
I believe most of the fun ones, like the hyper-specific ones.
I don't like God.
He's too general.
I say Gog.
Oh, Gog.
Yeah.
Gog is fun.
Okay.
Gog could be a fun one.
Yeah.
I like guys like, you know, Vulcan.
Dumbledore.
Oh, Dumbledore.
Dumbledore?
Dumbledore.
Yeah.
I don't think Dumbledore was a God.
He played golf.
Okay.
Now that I'm really reexamining the Harry Potter books.
Santa Claus.
Maybe he was a God.
I mean, Gandalf could have been a God.
What were his powers?
That's true.
He's dressed in white.
He's got, he certainly would be a fun God.
I like costumes.
I like names.
I like powers.
So you do believe in a God with a long white beard?
Gandalf.
Gandalf.
Yeah.
That's right.
Yeah.
Like wizard gods.
For us.
Booster gold.
I feel like for me, it's a spiritual thing.
I believe in the sea.
And when you go out and you look at the sea, the ocean.
All right.
Shut up.
All right.
We need to do anything.
Are you upset that we had what mostly was a real conversation?
Not at all.
I think you're...
I don't mind.
I love you.
Very interesting guy.
I think Jason, you should be making a show about this guy.
I hope not.
I hope I brought you on.
I was interesting too.
Y'all liked what I said and everything.
Yes.
Yes.
I loved it.
Y'all liked me.
It's a lot of diminishing returns with you.
I mean, it's a little sad.
Last time you were on, you were talking about rats spreading around the ship.
What's wrong with that?
Nothing was right.
It was more interesting is what I'm saying.
This time was very interesting.
I'm glad that when I've had sex with women, none of them have said code alpha.
I guess I'm, you know, retroactively appreciative of that.
Or code beta.
I've had code beta.
I've had code beta.
All right.
You need to take a break, but can you stick around Bill?
I got nothing to do.
Yeah.
I thought that about you.
Yeah.
My whole day is free.
Yeah.
I thought.
All right.
Well, when we come back, we have a person with exciting news.
This is incredible.
I don't think we've ever had this on the show before.
This is exciting.
We're going to be right back.
We'll be right back with more Jason, more Chibby Dips, more Bill.
We'll be right back with more Comedy Bang Bang after this.
Comedy Bang Bang.
We'll be right back.
We have Jason Wallner, Paul T. Goldman this Sunday, season finale on Peacock.
And we also have Bill Smither.
Bill, I think you need a middle initial in order for Jason to be interested in making
a show about you.
Oh, good tip.
Yeah.
I'll talk to my adoptive biological parents.
I don't have a middle name.
Oh, you have to find out what your middle name is.
So much of my birth certificate was in dispute that a lot of the information was left out.
Really?
Did your adoptive parents have a different opinion on what your birthday was?
Yeah.
They're like, we do not agree with this birth certificate.
But they never said what they thought it was.
They would just say, they assumed they would come to an agreement and they never hammered
it out.
So they like negotiate it?
Mm-hmm.
They negotiate it with the biological parents.
Why did they think your birthday was different than what your biological parents were?
They're like, we don't feel like...
He just doesn't seem like...
We don't feel like this is right.
This astrological sign?
The birth certificate given was September 22.
And they're like, he doesn't feel like a Libra.
He feels like a Virgo.
We think this is two days earlier.
Mm-hmm.
Two days.
So just two days.
I just decided, once something is skeptical, you don't know how wrong it is.
Yeah, that's true.
So I just threw the whole thing out.
That's true.
We also have chippy dips here.
I'm crying.
What's wrong?
What's wrong?
Because he said that I wasn't as interested.
Oh, you've been crying this entire break.
And I was trying to tell you all about my life and the bats running the ship.
The bats are like a lateral move from the rats last time.
You can't come back the next time and just do like the same thing.
Okay, there's the monsters running the ship.
You don't have to make stuff up.
You're obviously lying at this point.
I didn't make anything up, no.
I mean, the bats, we know you're telling the truth, but the monsters, come on.
Okay, fine.
You need to escalate is what I'm saying.
It's a ship run by Johnny Depp.
Clippy, I found everything you said there.
Like Pirates of the Caribbean?
Yeah.
He's the captain.
Captain Jack Sparrow.
That'd be funny if in that captain, was it Captain Phillips movie?
Yeah.
Where it should be called Captain Phillips and then Captain, whatever the other guy's
name was, because halfway through he goes, I'm the captain now.
So it's like, it's untrue.
It is misleading.
It's misleading, but it would be funny if they redid that movie and then just a bunch of
stars are cycled through and was like, now I'm the captain.
Then Johnny Depp was like Captain Jack Sparrow.
Wouldn't that be cool?
Okay, yeah, that's what was happening on the ship.
All right, all right.
Well, guys, we've come to it.
We've come to, this is extraordinary.
We have never had this kind of hype for a guest on the show before, but he's here.
He's ready to talk about it.
This is the person with exciting news.
Please welcome for the first time on the show, Joey Salsa.
Hi, thank you so much for having me, Scott.
Thank you, everyone, for being here.
I'm very excited.
So here's the thing.
What happened with me?
Just getting right to it.
I don't know.
This guy was talking about walking down the street.
I don't know how much time I had.
This is perhaps my one opportunity at Hollywood Glory and I need to parlay this into some success.
Let's do it.
So 10 years ago, I was at a movie.
Around the time where Paul T. Goldman tweeted Jason.
A lot of stuff happened 10 years ago.
Exactly.
I remember it because I watched After Earth, which I assume was a huge movie because after
I watched this, I came up with an idea for a musical.
And I have since then been working on this musical and stayed away from all social media,
all internet, all information, so as I could live like...
All information.
Well, aside from the information that was there from when my main characters were alive,
because I wanted to invest in the same life of my main character.
So I come up with an amazing musical.
I'm already lost.
Okay.
So I came up with an amazing musical, but the characters that it's about lived a long
time ago, so they did not have the internet.
Oh.
So they did not have the...
This is a historical piece.
Historical piece, right?
Period piece.
It's someone who's in history, but people don't focus on this person in history.
Got it.
And that's what's so interesting about it.
You've been...
You've taken yourself out of society.
Yes.
All information is...
So do you know what year it is?
I came out just the other day.
I tweeted Jason.
He must have clicked it to...
Well, he has usually a three-month response time.
Well, I didn't know we'd be meeting in person today.
Yeah.
I'm sorry about that.
I followed up saying that I'm normal.
I sent him all my browser history and he could see I hadn't done anything in 10 years.
Right.
So how could that be crazy?
That's just empty.
Yeah.
That's even weirder.
Well...
And so I am ready to...
I'm going to present my musical and now a lot of people focus on the main founding fathers.
I am focusing on a different founding father.
This is Alexander Hamilton is the founding father I have chosen to focus on.
He is...
You might be like, why is he on the $10 bill?
Yeah.
No.
I mean, Alexander...
You may not know this, but in the last 10 years, Alexander Hamilton got very big in
the popular consciousness.
Like a biopic?
No.
A musical.
You're fucking kidding me.
In fact, a rap musical, if you can believe it.
You're fucking kidding me.
Yeah.
Yours wasn't a rap musical, was it?
It's spoken word in the sense that it is rap.
Spoken in rhythm?
Yeah.
Because I'm not a singer.
Oh.
You can't even write music?
No.
No.
That's a problem if you're trying to write...
Well, yeah.
I wrote all these...
I've seen people sing it, but in this case, the writer actually performed it as well.
Oh, my fucking god.
Just like, is that what you're going to do?
That's what I was going to do.
That's the exact thing that I was...
Yeah.
You're also, by the way, it was a musical with no white people in it.
Is that similar to yours?
I was hoping, yeah, I was hoping that there would be no white people every time.
Because you are not white.
Oh, okay.
Oh, no, I'm white.
It's been a while.
I'm sorry, you're just very pale.
You haven't been out in the sun for a while.
Yes, it's been 10 years.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
Oh, okay.
Well, I was going to present my songs.
I was going to show you everything.
Well, there's been some time since Hamilton came out.
Maybe there's room for another one.
You know, I mean, Armageddon and what was that other movie came out?
Deep Impact.
Deep Impact came out in the same year.
I mean, there could be room for two.
Yeah.
Maybe it's not the same.
Maybe we touched on different stuff.
Yeah.
Maybe...
It's like those three pre-Fontaine movies all came out at the same time.
Yeah.
A lot of people would say like...
And there's those two documentaries about the vow.
Finding Nemo and Sharktail.
Yeah.
So thank you very much.
There might still be room.
But yeah, I mean, some would argue that now Hamilton is even more famous and interest is
even higher.
Okay.
Okay.
What's yours called?
Alexander the Great.
Not the one you're thinking about.
The other one, Hamilton.
Don't tell me that's the name of the movie.
No, no.
This is just Hamilton.
So I think there won't be any confusion in the marketplace.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just Hamilton?
Just Hamilton.
Can you believe it?
Okay.
I know.
All right.
Well, yeah.
I guess maybe...
Because I hear Ham and I'm like, mmm, yummy.
Right.
And then suddenly they follow it up with Ultima?
Maybe.
Yeah.
Maybe a musical.
I mean, I think musical theater is a mental illness.
But maybe a musical about Ham could be good.
Okay.
We're already moving on to other projects.
Oh, wait.
Here's your song.
How does a bastard orphan son of a whore, the kind of guy who says, hey, let's plan to
hang out, but then he doesn't set a date.
So then you have to set a date and then you follow up and be like, did we set a date?
And he's like, oh, no, but we should hang out.
And I'm like, how about Tuesday?
He says, I can't do Tuesday.
And I'm like, come on, man, I'm doing all the work here.
This is where he started.
And in later songs, I'm going to show you where he gets to.
He's also the kind of guy who says, you smell like shit.
And I'm like, I don't smell like shit.
And he's like, that's my kind of humor.
And I say, that's not humor.
That is just a lie.
That's not who he is.
But right now he is that guy and he's the kind of guy that will tap you on the shoulder
and you'll look at that shoulder and you'll be at the other shoulder.
My point is right now, he's not a great guy, but eventually he's going to be a great guy.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I think that I cued that I'm, I'm engineering the show and I accidentally hit, hit play.
But I, I, it's good because I feel like we established the premise.
Yeah.
That would need a lot of time.
Yeah.
But, um, okay.
So just, first of all, musically, okay.
Very similar.
Okay.
Almost identical.
I would say.
Okay.
Almost as if this is a karaoke track.
Okay.
But lyrically original.
Lyrically very original.
Yeah.
The existing Hamilton musical does not get a lot into whether he would or would not
tap you on the shoulder.
Okay.
You got the other shoulder.
And then if you did, whether that would be like a prank or genuine.
I haven't seen it, but I don't think there's a part about him telling you that you smell
like shit.
Okay.
Okay.
Great.
I don't recall that.
Yeah.
I don't think so.
Definitely not.
So music, music's on the first one.
And again, that's just my first, I mean, that's the intro song, but so you're talking
about Hamilton or this is Hamilton talking about someone else.
That's, that's me.
We're setting up who Hamilton is.
They go, we got to start up that he's, so this is someone else talking about Hamilton.
Yeah.
He's saying that later you're going to be talking about him or if he's a son of a whore,
you know, he, that's similar to, yeah.
Okay.
And he's the kind of guy that would touch the shoulder, be around the shoulder.
And you try and make plans with him and he's always putting it on you.
And so like, do you really want to hang up?
You know, like, yeah.
No, we heard it.
He's not that good of a guy, you know what I mean?
Right.
Yeah.
That's exactly.
Yes.
That's the point of that song.
Okay.
Huh.
So everyone got the point of that song.
Yeah.
That was very clear.
Kind of shady with his social commitments.
Okay.
Okay.
In mine, I don't know.
Yeah.
It's the other character.
In fact, they sold hats.
Some say Hamilton.
Some say Burr.
It's like, who's side are you on?
Yeah.
He's kind of almost the main character in a way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The second lead.
Okay.
All right.
Well, maybe, maybe that's similar.
But in my, I imagine that they actually met up well long before the duel.
So this is, this is a, this is a little song.
Yeah.
They've known each other for a long time in the musical.
Yeah.
But it might actually, I pinpoint the moment that they met.
I think this, I think this one does too, but maybe it's a different, different time.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Mine takes place in 1776.
So, yeah.
In fact, Hamilton, the one that exists, they start by saying 1776 and they repeat it several
times.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, let's try.
Maybe mine, maybe mine's different.
Okay.
Yeah.
Let's hear it.
Yeah.
1776.
Yeah.
That's rough.
Yeah.
I can change that part.
All right.
So, so this way.
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
Are you Aaron Burr?
Sir?
No, I'm not.
I'm the baker.
Aaron Burr is over there.
Aaron Burr is over there.
Aaron Burr is over there.
Aaron Burr is over there.
Please stop with that.
Excuse me.
Are you Aaron Burr, sir?
Well, that depends.
Who's asking?
Well, sure, sir.
No, just kidding.
I'm not actually Aaron Burr.
No matter who you are.
Aaron Burr is over there.
Aaron Burr is over there.
Aaron Burr is over there.
Excuse me.
Are you Aaron Burr?
Sir?
No, I'm not.
How dare you?
Oh, I have a bad relationship with Aaron Burr.
Aaron Burr is over there.
Aaron Burr is over there.
Aaron Burr is over there.
Excuse me.
Are you Aaron Burr?
Sir?
Yes, I am.
Spelled E-R-I-N Burr.
Oh, no.
Aaron Burr is over there.
Aaron Burr is over there.
Aaron Burr is over there.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
So, there's two songs in a row where things are promising to happen.
One later.
Am I getting that right?
Well, yeah, it happened.
That song.
Again, very musically similar, in fact, almost identical, and lyrically starts exactly the
same as well.
And then goes-
It's just a date, though.
That's, I mean-
But goes-
Right.
Well, the date and then are you Aaron Burr, sir, is-
You know, again, I haven't seen the popular Hamilton-
Oh, it's popular.
But I'm really enjoying-
Yeah.
Okay.
One date.
Yeah, I thought the lyrics were so good.
Right.
You just kept repeating Aaron Burr's over there.
Well, yeah.
I can imagine more people doing it.
Is there a lot of people in the place?
In the play?
No, in the place that he's looking for Aaron Burr.
Oh, yeah.
I think that there'd be like at least like five, you know.
That's not a lot of people.
For him to make the mistake that many times?
I'm sorry.
I've spent 10 years by myself researching and writing, so five people is a lot of people.
You need more people in there.
Okay.
For him to be going through one by one, I mean, you need to be like-
We cut the song before, but one of them, actually, he takes out, you think it's someone
new, but then they take out the mask and you realize it's the same person.
It's the same person who just put on a mask.
Put on a mask.
To disguise themselves?
To disguise?
He's doing everything.
Aaron Burr is over here.
Aaron Burr, then he's dancing around, so he didn't see the mask get put on.
Where are they?
Just like, I'm thinking like a spinny circle.
I'm thinking like a spinny circle, like a stage that nobody in the scene-
No, I mean location.
Oh, 1776.
No, no, not the time period.
Oh, what?
Where are they?
In like a mask store?
It's like the East Coast, I think at that time, mostly.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't think we're getting more specific for that.
Well, I'll be honest.
Most of my research, I didn't, because I couldn't use a car and I live far away from a library.
So I would walk to my library and it would often be closed when I got there.
And then I would have to walk home.
So a lot of-
Why didn't you start walking earlier?
I've got to get my eight hours, Scott.
Okay.
I'm getting your burden.
I'm an artist.
Okay.
So yeah, sometimes I would get there.
And so maybe I don't have as much research as I would have liked to done in the 10 years.
But-
Okay.
So I don't know exactly the locations.
We'll see if they were in a-
Does he ever catch up to Aaron Burr in that scene?
Or-
Yeah, at the very end.
Then he says, Aaron Burr is right here.
Aaron Burr is right here.
Oh, nice.
Nice.
Yeah.
And then what do they, do they say, do they meet, whether they have an interesting conversation?
Yeah, they meet.
And then Aaron Burr kind of establishes his personality.
You know, he's like, nah, it's going to stand out.
He's not going to go out on the limb in mind, you know?
And then Alexander Hamilton is like, I'm going to go out on the limb.
I'm going to say stuff.
I'm going to write stuff.
He writes a lot too.
Yeah.
I have a song about how he's always writing.
That's actually song five.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's hear this one.
All right.
I like to write.
I like to write.
I like to write.
This is different.
I write a lot.
I like to write.
I also like to doodle.
I'm the first guy who made the Stoosey S. Remember the Stoosey S?
That was me.
Wootang symbol.
Also me.
The guy with his nose over the brick wall.
I like to doodle.
What other doodles?
Those are the three I know, but also people's names.
Oh yeah.
I just remembered another one.
I would write my name and someone's crush slash name on my notebook and everyone would
think I'm married to them and that would be what I would doodle on my notebook.
And I also had a TI-85 before they were available in my time and I made drug wars.
Remember that game?
It was a game on TI-85.
Maybe don't remember it.
Snooze you might.
Right?
That's a game.
Remember?
I did that as well as doodles and I also like to make.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
All right.
But then.
Yeah.
Joey Salsa is your name?
Yeah.
That's right.
What kind of name is that, by the way?
It's my first and my last.
Oh, got it.
I mean, that's very different.
I mean, you have a unique style of your lyric writing where it's like the person's coming
up with it while they're saying it.
Yeah.
I think that's fun.
I like to come up with a style like starting confident, you know, and then slowly becoming
letting the actors become appearing to become less confident.
Yeah.
That's sort of how this podcast goes too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
By the third.
By C Block, usually.
Right.
I like how your song makes a makes an assumption over how much the listener is thinking of
or regarding the song.
Yeah.
You probably don't know what that is.
It involves the listener.
I like that.
Yeah.
That's the character.
That's I'm sorry if you thought that was me, but that's Alexander Hamilton.
No, we understand.
He liked it.
Very valuable.
That point is again, it gets a little bit late on some, but he writes so much that he's
always writing that he even does.
He has time to even do other things, but he's still writing more.
This, though, is my problem.
I think with this song is the historical inaccuracy.
He designs video games.
And the one that's going on right now, it's it's historically accurate.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, as far as we know, I mean, yeah, the fact that maybe that's a good thing for
me.
Maybe that's a good way to distinguish yourself.
Yeah.
If it's like, this one's not true.
Like maybe, OK, one more that I again, didn't do much research on this one.
This one would be the third song.
Why did we skip four?
Well, we can do four.
It's a 24 minute song.
It's my introduction to George Washington.
I'm tempted.
It's my introduction.
It's my introduction to George Washington.
Let's hear three first.
And I may call it audible on four.
Fantastic.
Here we go.
In my research, I realized that his wife had a sister who may have also liked him and
wanted to sex with him.
Yeah.
This is in the regular.
This is my version of that.
And so this is the sister, not his wife in this song.
And she goes.
I want to fuck.
I want to suck.
I want to fuck him.
I want to suck.
I want to fuck.
I want to fuck him.
I take my pantaloons down and put my butt next to his butt and we can blow up a bubble.
Yes.
I just invented that.
And every night.
Yes.
Fucking octopus.
And that's the thing I do because even back then we did.
And I will suck him and I'll fuck him and I'll do the butting with the bubble.
But that's the thing I invented and don't forget the handicapped person.
Wow.
Well, that can't have been in the other one.
No, that was pretty different.
Pretty different.
And where was that song taking place?
Is she just sort of saying that to the mirror?
Or is she out on the street?
Yeah.
I think that I think that one.
She's probably like, you know, yeah, out on the street.
Probably.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's telling passersby.
Yeah.
That seems like.
And she actually invented that.
And that is maybe, and I don't know if that's historically accurate because you couldn't
find proof of that.
What is a butt bubble?
You put your butt next to another butt.
If you put your butt, you both blow at the same time.
Is that physically accurate?
Oh, yeah.
I know.
You've been alone for a long time.
I don't know if this is possible with human bodies the way they are these days.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
But anyway, so I am available to make this musical.
There are, you know, hundreds of more songs that I have.
What was your track for?
This is a 24 minute song introduction to George Washington.
He's a big hulking character, obviously in mine.
So this is his introduction.
Big lots of lights.
Lots of lights.
Oh, good.
Good.
Good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm George Washington.
I'm George Washington.
I'm George Washington.
All right.
Okay.
This is not good.
I was on board through the four songs.
24 minutes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Am I George Washington?
No.
I'm George Washington.
He eventually gets to that.
He thought he was George Washington.
Well, he's asking.
He's talking.
And this is his name.
This one, he is looking in a mirror.
And this one, he is looking in a mirror.
So he's talking to someone else who is himself.
But yeah.
Eventually, like how eventually, how deep in the song.
That's the end.
Yeah.
So like 23, 24 minutes of just I'm George Washington.
Yeah.
But it changes a little bit.
Oh, a little bit.
Okay.
Joey.
Joey.
You've wasted 10 years of your life.
Because there's another one.
Well, even if there was no other musical about Hamilton,
this one sucks.
You're not, you're not good.
You, you shouldn't not be doing musicals.
I'm sorry.
I shouldn't not be.
Okay.
I don't need to give you a double negative.
I'm going to take that information.
I'm going to continue.
I'm going to be careful with what I say.
I'm going to keep going.
And I believe in myself.
So you got to take, what do they say?
A million knows to have a yes, right?
Yeah.
A million.
I don't know.
That's a terrible reason.
That's a lie.
But you do have to be delusional too.
Get into this line of work to begin.
That's real.
That's a good point.
I mean, I think the existence of the other one is your best asset right now.
Okay.
Like when you say, I've got a better Hamilton, I do think people will be interested.
Oh, better Hamilton.
I think that's what you got to say.
Yeah.
Just somehow trick people into thinking they're paying to see the popular Hamilton and then
we've got something.
Yeah.
Maybe it's Ham Elton or something.
Yeah.
You know, you go to a Hamilton production and you open your own little side production
inside.
Yeah.
You like tap people on the shoulder and say, would you like to have a special experience?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Would you like a special experience?
I could do that.
Yeah.
This is a good thing.
Great.
You lock the doors from the outside.
Oh yeah.
You lock them in like Scott locked us all in.
Yeah.
Oh, sorry about that.
Well, look, we are running out of time guys.
I'm so sorry, Joey.
No, I'm taking, you gave me a great feedback and I am excited to continue on my journey.
Great feedback.
I did.
But before we go, we just have time for one final feature and that is of course a little
something called plugs plugs plugs.
All right.
Yeah.
That was a wee day with Dr. Sibido.
Okay.
Thank you so much to We Day for that.
Guys, what are we plugging?
Jason, obviously Paul T. Goldman out on Peacock right now.
Out on Peacock right now, final one airs this Sunday.
There's six episodes.
You can binge them at this point and what if you just took them one at a time like at
this point was like, okay, I'm going to watch one, one a week, even though they're all available.
Yeah.
Feel free.
People can do that.
Yeah.
People legally can do that.
Okay.
Interesting.
They can do anything they fucking want.
All right.
You're dirty.
You're first.
And anything else you have on the horizon?
This is it for me.
I'm done.
You're done.
Congrats.
Great run.
Thank you.
I love it.
And Chippy Dips, what are you up to?
Wow.
Thank you so much for getting my name right finally.
Well, first of all, I would just like to plug our next screws coming up.
It's a salt daddy convention.
Salt daddy convention.
What is it?
What is a salt daddy?
So, you know, sugar babies when the daddy doesn't pay.
Oh, right.
They're called a salt daddy.
Oh, sugar babies when the, oh, so the, so the, so the,
When you're a sugar baby, your, your sugar daddy, you know,
takes care of you.
He pays for all your stuff, right?
But he stiffs, but he stiffs the check.
But when he stiffs you, when he doesn't pay for your classes,
for your art classes, for your reading seminars,
and for your, for your blowouts and all that,
he's a salt daddy.
Oh.
And so this is a safe space for all the salt daddy.
For the salt daddy.
And just not spend money together.
Great.
All right.
That's coming up.
That's coming up next week.
So get your ticks.
And then, and then, you know, I just like to promote this one little
podcast that sometimes I hear called this book,
change my life on CBB presents.
Okay.
That's what a monthly is.
I recall.
Yes.
Monthly and also very cool social media on Facebook.
You can follow at a lot.
All right.
Great.
And what, what was your name?
Bill Smith.
Bill Smith.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's who I am.
Bill Smith.
What do you have to plug?
Well, I want to, want to plug Starbucks reserve reserves.
So if you're in a Starbucks reserve,
keep an eye out for an unremarkable man creeping up.
By the way, you say you're an unruly and I do believe you are that
in terms of like personality.
Yes.
Physically, you're, you're very odd.
Oh yeah.
I'm a, I'm a real low percentage shot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you're, first of all, you're, you're as,
as wide as you are tall.
Which you don't see a lot.
Yeah.
You're like, yeah.
I'm like a gas pump.
You're a human chode in a way.
In a way.
Yeah.
In a way I am a human chode, I suppose.
Yeah.
Geometrically.
Yeah.
You're like a square.
You're a square.
Yeah.
I'm a square.
I'm a square man.
Yeah.
Interesting.
I'm a square man with, with no elbows.
So that is also interesting.
Yeah.
You've almost smacked Jason in the face.
Yeah.
You look like one of those drawings that little kids do with
it's just like a square with some legs posed out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you don't know how to draw that well and you can just do
geometric shapes, you still got a shot at drawing me.
Great.
But other than that, unremarkable.
So if you see a square man with no elbows walking up to you,
just give him a, give him a chance and see what,
see what coffee he has for you.
Yeah.
He may be imagining your death.
Pleasantly.
You know, not wishing for it.
Yeah.
Just wondering what it'll be like.
Yeah.
But also, you know, I've heard some podcasts I like on the old CB
presents.
You can dig into the archives there and here you can't handle
the sloops.
Archives already.
It's a whole, it's a whole bunch of archives.
Yeah, sure.
But I mean, they're barely a few months old.
You know, it was sounding like an ancient, ancient history.
Look, I know how the kids are, you know,
if something's 10 seconds old, it's forever ago.
Yeah.
And then I also like a podcast called screw it.
We're just going to talk about comics.
These two middle-aged dudes who sound the same,
who are brothers.
You think they're middle-aged?
Kevin Hines.
I would call them middle-aged pretty gently.
I think they're late in their life.
I think that's a hostile interpretation.
They're going to live to be 100, do you think?
I think they're going to live to be well over 100.
They take no risks and I think that's in their favor.
That's important.
Closer to death.
And so they talk about comic books and they're examining
all the first issues of the Marvel comics right now.
Oh.
Millie the model?
Millie the model, Ant-Man, a lot of weird firsts.
Okay.
Interesting.
So if you're into that kind of thing.
That's all, that's all.
Joey Salsa, what do you have to say?
Yeah, obviously my musical, it's available because I'm not sure
if either of you are takers.
No, we're not produced.
Jason, you're not going to produce, right?
Let me think.
I'm going to think about it.
All right.
Okay.
Yeah, well.
He's an interesting guy.
You're not some interesting people today.
Yeah, for sure.
Get him fast.
Get him fast.
But Jason is out of show business.
Yes.
That's all mine.
We'll make it work.
Also on my one day today, on the internet after 10 years,
I did happen to stumble upon Holy Shit Improv.
You didn't look up Hamilton first.
I just had to see what the comedy scene in LA was doing.
Sure.
And the interesting thing about this comedy scene in LA is
you can see it from anywhere in the world.
So if you're in LA, you can watch Holy Shit Improv.
Check it out on Instagram.
Or if you want anywhere, you can see the shows on Patreon.com
slash Holy Shit Improv.
Just their last show.
Not mine.
I take no responsibility.
But just their last show, they had people like Lisa Gilroy,
Carl Tartt, Jacob Oisaki, Ben Rogers, you know, friends of
what I assume people have been on this podcast.
You would assume that, wouldn't you?
Yeah.
So check it out.
And that's it for me.
All right.
I want to plug, hey, the Comedy Bang Bang Book is coming out
in a few months.
Very excited by it.
You can pre-order.
Go to comedybangbangworld.com slash book or CBBworld.com
slash book.
And it's coming out in a few months and we're going to have
some special things happening when it does.
And also go to CBB World and check out some shows.
We got some great shows.
We just had an episode of Hey Randy just came out with Randy
and we just had the, this book Changes My Life or Save My Life.
What is it called?
Changed My Life.
Changed My Life?
You don't even know the shows on your own platform?
Sorry.
That's pretty bad.
That's pretty embarrassing actually.
So go to CBBworld.com and you can get all those shows
including Ad Free, episodes of this, as well as all the
archives of the previous, those truly are archives.
And don't go too far back in those.
But maybe as far back as Jason's previous appearance
and no further back.
And go to CBBworld.com.
If you buy a year, if you subscribe for a year,
you can get two months of that free.
All right, let's close up the old plug bag.
Here we go.
Plug bag.
Wow.
Plug bag.
Wow.
Oh my God, Becky, look at her butt.
Oh my God, Becky, look at his butt.
Oh my God, Becky, look at his butt.
Okay now.
Oh my God, Becky, look at my butt.
Got much bag.
Got much bag.
Got much bag.
Got much bag.
Got much bag.
Time to open the plug bag.
те collector LAWLVect.
Yeah, okay.
That was OMGWOW.
That's our first remix of the year by King Love Duck Electricity.
So thank you for doing something with that God-awful
closing up the plug bag theme that we recorded this year.
Really appreciate it.
That one was pretty cool.
And if you have them, send them over to CBBworld.com.
You can submit catchphrase submissions and remixes.
We have all the stems up there.
Guys, I want to thank you so much, Jason.
It's always great to have you and great to see you in person.
Great to see you, Scott.
Thanks for having me.
And if you want to see what Jason looks like, you are in...
I'm in the show, sadly.
Paul T. Goldman.
So unlike human giant...
This is when I'm in.
You're in it constantly cutting to you.
You're constantly gingerly and gently giving direction.
And you seem like you're a pleasure to be on set with.
Thank you, Scott.
And Chibi Dips, good to see you.
So great to see you.
Are you going to be stuck on land here?
I think I'm going to make it.
And actually, you reminded me, Scott, that we have another cruise coming up
for celebrities who do get canceled comedians.
Oh, okay.
Wow, okay.
And they come on the cruise for one week and then they come back
and then they go right back to work.
All right.
Just the revolving door of cancellation.
It really is.
So just thinking about that,
I'm just thinking about all the good cruises coming up.
Oh, okay.
And Bill, it's so great to have you on the show.
Hey, I had a great time.
Thanks so much.
And Joey Saul.
So what do you say we get a little bit more of...
Number four, I'm George Washington.
No, let's do number three to take us out.
All right.
So again, you have to remember that she likes the...
You got in this version, she likes the sister,
which is him who he's married to.
Right.
Right.
So we know that.
That's our set up there.
And then we go like...
I want to fuck, I want to suck, I want to fuck him.
I want to fuck, I want to suck, I want to fuck him.
I want to take down my pants,
two loons and fuck my butt.
Next to his bottom,
love a pot bubble I invented then.
And then I fuck him in, I'll suck him in, I'll fuck him.
And then I suck him in, I'll fuck him in, I'll fuck him.
I want to fuck him, suck him in.
I knew the bubble, but then that's the thing I meant.
And then I fuck him, I invented then.
This part's where I acted out.
All right.
We'll see you next time.
Thanks.
Bye.