Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Amy Poehler
Episode Date: March 10, 2025Actress and comedian Amy Poehler feels nostalgic about being Conan O’Brien’s friend. Amy sits down with Conan to discuss her new podcast Good Hang with Amy Poehler, working summers at the Chestnu...t Hill Mall, the boundaries determined by one’s family of origin, teasing as a love language, and the most satisfying moment in Below Deck. Later, Conan issues a performance review for booker Paula Davis. For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com.Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: (669) 587-2847. Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/conan.
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Hi, my name is Amy Poehler and I feel nostalgic about being Conan O'Brien's friend.
And that is appropriate.
Fall is here, hear the yell, back to school, ring the bell, brand new shoes, walk and lose,
climb the fence, books and pens. I can tell that we are gonna be friends.
I can tell that we are gonna be friends.
Well, hello there.
Are you playing that?
Are you playing it up?
It's Conan O'Brien.
And this is, uh, Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend.
I'm joined by my good pals, what is it?
Sonam Asesna.
Sonam obsession.
Sonam obsession.
Yeah. And, um...
Take your time. Take your time.
Yeah.
And, uh, this is one of those occasions,
doesn't come up that much, where I've got a bit of a cold,
and I'm just loving my voice.
And that's why I think I slow it down a little bit.
Mm-hmm.
And I think I sound real sexy.
Yeah.
I think I sound like I've got big dick energy.
Come on, man.
I was sexy to that point.
What do you mean?
I don't know.
You're not.
The voice is cool.
You wish my voice was like this all the time.
Yeah, I kinda do.
But it also makes you kind of obnoxious.
Yeah, it's the voice that, you have big throat energy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Big flu energy. Yeah. Don't do it.
Can you do a song dedication?
Yeah.
That's the kind of voice you would have.
I used to do a lot of this.
If I had this kind of voice all the time,
I'd just do a lot of, yeah, yeah.
Just to fill out the conversation.
Oh, okay.
Because you don't have to think of anything clever.
People would, hey, Coda, what's going on?
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
That's all you were gonna say?
I don't know, sure.
And that's enough to get by on, huh?
I think so.
You need like a catchphrase. Yeah. I think so. People would, hey, Coda, what's going on? Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's all you were gonna say?
I don't know, sure.
And that's enough to get by on, huh?
I think so.
You need like a catchphrase.
Yeah, that's right.
I'm chillin', all right, hey, I'm rockin' and rollin'.
Chillin' with Magellan.
What is that?
Is that a product?
That's like a shoe insert commercial.
Yeah, that's right.
Jellin' like Magellan is for insults.
He didn't get it right.
It's about a shoe insert for old people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Excuse me, the arch support I've been looking for.
That's a free ad if they're still making those.
The Jellin like Magellan inserts?
I haven't seen one in years.
I haven't seen one in years.
That was a terrible catchphrase.
That's one of the worst catchphrases.
Well, you remember it.
Kind of.
Don't you think it was a terrible catchphrase?
Yeah.
Umjellin with Magellan.
That's terrible. Jellin like Magellan. Oh-gellen with ma-gellen. That's terrible.
Magellen like ma-gellen.
Oh yeah, well that's great.
That's fantastic.
2003 was.
2003, yeah.
Wow, okay.
It's been over 20 years and you still remember it.
That was America trying to recover
from the 9-11 attacks.
Oh my God.
No, we were.
We were trying to get back on our feet, literally.
And so we were all about inserts.
What is wrong with you?
I'm just saying that there's a historic reason
why a gelled insole was a big deal back then.
People wanted comfort and they wanted to feel supported
at a time when our nation was in a lot of peril.
Okay.
Anyway, I love the way I talk right now.
This is fantastic.
I'd like to recuse myself from this podcast.
Okay, that's not gonna happen, yeah.
We can recuse?
Yeah.
Okay, me too.
Um.
You're on your own, Barry White.
I had one of those IVs last night.
Oh.
I don't think it did anything, I'll be honest with you.
Um, maybe it did.
They put a bunch of,
because I wasn't feeling well,
and I've got a big gig coming up,
and I wanted to feel my best,
and so my doctor said, oh, you could try this,
and there's like a bag,
and the guy just keeps injecting different things
into the bag while it drips into my arm,
and I'm thinking, I don't know what he's putting in here,
and at one point he put, yeah, it was the substance.
Yeah, yeah, I turned into Eddie Redmayne.
At one point I said, what's that you're putting in there,
and he said mayonnaise.
Just put mayonnaise in there.
Eddie Redmayne crawled out my back, and he said, cheer Just put mayonnaise in there. Eddie Redmayne crawled out my back.
And he said, cheerio, chaps.
Wolf to make a moving picture.
I don't know who the young version of me would be.
The Wendy's girl.
Oh, that's what you meant.
Eddie Redmayne is the young version of you.
Yeah, that's what the substance is.
The younger, like, better version.
Okay, take it easy.
I'm sorry.
That's what it is. That's what the substance do. The younger, like, better version. Okay, take it easy. I'm sorry, that's what it is.
That's what the substance do.
He doesn't got these pipes.
He doesn't have these pipes.
I mean, he's got a crazy cool British accent.
Yeah, anyone can do that.
Cheerio, chap.
Cheerio, chap.
Cheerio, chap.
Here comes Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
I'm really not trying at all.
Those are bangers and mesh.
I'm just saying things without an English accent.
You're not even doing an accent. Not even doing an accent.'m just saying things without an English accent.
Not even doing an accent.
You can't do a normal British accent.
Watch this.
We'll get over there.
It's a Big Ben.
Oh, that's bad.
Thanks, American tourists.
And that's parliament.
Your British accent is just, you go straight to cockney.
No, I don't.
Can you do like a normal British accent?
That's all right.
No, that's cockney.
Come on, see, that's cockney.
Oh, I wasn't even trying to right there.
I had a small polyp in my throat from this cold
that I was trying to dislodge.
Listen, guys, I'm not your chimp.
I'm not going to sit here and do voices.
Why won't you do?
Why am I going to?
Why won't you do?
I'm not some entertainer who, when cued,
performs entertainment for people.
Do it.
OK.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
It's the bush, bush, traveling on for traveling on for people. Do it. Okay. It's the posh posh travelin' life,
the travelin' life for me.
First cabin captain's quarters, real company.
Pull out, stab it home.
Posh with a capital P-O-S-H.
You do a good Paul McCartney.
Oh yeah, well he's very fairly, you know.
Dana and I like to do, I learned a lot from Dana,
which is very sing songy and doobly doo.
He's ups and he's downsies.
It's all over the map-sies.
That's good.
You can do it.
And then my John Lennon is just,
what the fuck are you talking about?
It's more nasal and just yelling at Paul.
Uh, yes, it's a lot of fun to hang around with Dana
and do voices. It's really fun.
He's the maestro.
He is the maestro.
I'm gonna give it up for him right now.
Dana Carvey.
Yeah.
You were just saying Dana, like everybody knew
who you were talking about.
Yeah, well, who else is there? What other famous Danas are there?
Dana Plata.
Dana Gold?
Dana Delaney?
Dana White.
He might do impressions before UFC fights.
He probably does.
He comes out as a character.
He comes out as a character.
Comes out as a 1920s depression era newsboy.
Tells everybody the Titanic was just sunk.
They should get ready for the fight.
He's doing this to an audience of UFC people.
They go crazy. They all start hitting each other with chairs. They love it.
We love it. Do the...
Do the Lusitania saying. Do it they love it. We love it. Do the, do the Lusitania saying.
Do it.
Do it.
They love it when he invokes Woodrow Wilson.
Yeah, it's great.
It's good stuff.
Well, I think we've had a good time.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, we got there.
What? What?
Well, that's a terrible thing to say.
Oh, I didn't mean it that way.
So now let's the audience,
you just clued the audience in
that we were trying to fill time
as opposed to having a magical journey.
This is a magical journey?
Yeah.
Oh.
You know, show business is,
and our current president has taught us this,
you declare it and you make it so.
And so I'm, you know, not saying
that's the right thing to do,
but he just says, he makes declarations.
You're not saying it's not the right thing to do.
I'm not, not, not, not saying. No, but what I'm saying is he makes these declarations. You're not saying it's not the right thing to do. I'm not, not, not, not saying, no,
but what I'm saying is he makes these declarations
and people then start chanting, lock her up, lock her up.
They don't even know who she is, you know,
or where they're locking her up.
So when I'm- You should just do that.
Yeah, so I think I'm gonna start doing that on the podcast.
Okay.
Lock her up?
Yeah, Sona, I want Sona arrested.
Oh man.
Bummer.
For what?
I don't know, you've shoplifted, didn't you?
A long time ago and not a lot of stuff. I guess old crimes don't know, you've shoplifted, didn't you? A long time ago, and not a lot of stuff.
I guess old crimes don't count.
No, statute of limitations is up.
Hi, hi, I'm the law.
Oh, hi, law, how are you?
Hi, law.
I didn't recognize you.
Hey, law, you look great.
You look fantastic.
Hey, I love the scales you're holding.
Why are you blindfolded, law?
I'm the justice.
Oh, wow, your improv is so good.
Your improv is off the charts. Incredible.
So do you train at like Second City or Browns?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes and.
Yes and.
Yes and I trained at Second City and.
You got it, that's all you gotta do.
Yeah.
That's all you gotta do.
I used to do bits on your show in 1993.
Yeah.
And then I was 10 years old.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes and, shut up.
Yes and you shut up. Yeah. That's what I would do. Yes and you shut up. And then yes and 10 years old. Yeah. Yeah. Yes and shut up. Yes and you shut up.
Yeah.
That's what I would do.
Yes and you shut up.
And then yes and you shut up.
Yes and.
That's a good.
Yes and rap.
Okay.
Well, I think this is a perfect introduction.
Improvisational geniuses on the show today.
My guest today was a cast member on SNL
and starred in the hit series, Parks and Recreation.
Now she has a new podcast titled Good Hang with Amy Poehler.
You know what? She's never been on the podcast.
I know.
And I adore her.
I'm thrilled she's here today. Amy Poehler, welcome.
A lot of our fans know this, but for the uninitiated, when I was doing my late night show in 93,
a couple of years into it, we started saying,
oh, we need cast members to help us out on the fly.
And UCB was just getting off the ground.
Yeah.
And so suddenly, it wasn't just that I
was getting really good people.
I was getting the best sketch performers who
were coming in from downtown and coming in.
And you would play,
and you could play anything,
but you would play Andy's Little Sister
and we'd give you, I think a script that was like,
that's a solid B.
And you would take it to an A++++++.
It was insanity and I never took that for granted.
I always thought, I mean, now I look back on it
and I think I got to have Amy Poehler do bits on my show.
We probably paid.
Got to, you paid my rent.
Yeah.
I mean, are you kidding?
I would have done it.
I mean, it's funny that you say it that way,
because isn't it funny when you look back at,
I mean, what must be 20, almost 30 years now?
30, 30 some odd years, yeah.
Yeah, because I moved to New York when I was in 96,
is I never remember a time when you were
like a fledgling new show.
I mean, you were just always like the hit show.
That's so funny.
I know I don't remember it being like,
we have to practice and get things ready,
because I knew Andy, Victor from Chicago,
but in my mind, I don't have a memory of it
ever not being a successful show.
Well, it's interesting because young people
just sort of made it their show
and we were doing all this weird stuff
and they were saying, yeah, this is what we like.
We like the masturbating bear, we like Pimp Bot,
we like Andy's little sister, we like all this weird stuff,
but I was constantly taking shit from people
that were used to Letterman
who were maybe 20 years older than me.
And so there was a solid three years of,
you might get canceled.
Can you try, you know, can you get rid
of that weird stuff you're doing?
And I'd tell them I will, and then I just wouldn't.
And it was just madness.
And honestly, let's play F. Mary Kill
with Masturbating Bear, Pimp, Bot,
and Andy's little sister.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See how we do.
Yeah.
Fuck them all.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
That diaper comes off pretty easy.
Oh, come on.
He's ready to go.
I don't think Masturbating Bear's interested.
He's got his own thing going on.
No, he's not.
He's an owning-ism.
That's not how he gets off.
Yeah.
So we also have a few things in common,
which is you're from Burlington, Mass.
And I'm from Brookline, Mass.
Fancy.
Congratulations.
That's right.
My butlers had a butler.
No.
Did your house have books in it?
Well, we had some books.
And my butterfly collection.
But I think you told me once, I could be wrong,
that you worked at the Chestnut Hill Mall.
Yeah, I worked at a bunch of different places
in high school, I always had a summer job,
but I worked at the Chestnut Hill Mall
at a restaurant called Paparazzi,
which was a very, it was probably one of the fancier
restaurants I had worked at up until that point,
Breadsticks.
Yes.
Ooh.
And you know, I learned words like Cavatappi.
I still don't know what that means.
What is that?
That's a type of pasta or, you know,
yeah, I learned musimplas.
Didn't you work at the pewter or something?
There used to be a pewter pot in my town,
but I worked at Chadwick's, which was an ice cream place
on the border of Lexington and Waltham,
and very famously an ice cream,
like old fashioned ice cream place,
you bang a drum when it's someone's birthday,
and you wear old timey outfits.
Yes, yes.
And Rachel Dratch worked at Chadwick's
a few years ahead of me, we never met,
because then the simulation wouldn't have worked out.
That's crazy.
And you know what's interesting is that
your Boston accent went away.
I used to think I never had a Boston accent,
and then someone recently found a clip of me
interviewing my brothers and sisters from like 1971,
and I'm going like, yeah, so, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh,
and I'm like, who's that guy?
And I never consciously tried to get rid of it,
but you tried.
I did, and I still think you do have one.
You think I do have one.
And I still think I have one.
I mean, it's super slight,
but don't you feel like you can pinpoint people from Boston?
Yes, definitely.
Even just saying Boston, the way you say Boston.
But every once in a while I hear it,
and every once in a while I hear it on my, for me,
and for me it's usually when I'm angry,
that's when it comes out, which makes sense.
I also love that when I go to Boston, I don't's usually when I'm angry. That's when it comes out. Yeah. Which makes sense.
I also love that when I go to Boston,
I don't know if this happens to you.
It's the worst accent ever.
Bostonians, it is.
Well. It's terrible.
I'm gonna say Rhode Island.
Cranston, Rhode Island.
Yeah, Rhode Island is better.
Cranston, Rhode Island might win.
Can you do the difference?
What's the difference between those two?
I can't, I'm terrible at it.
This made Rachel Dratch crazy because she did this,
she wrote a sketch for Senate Live,
which is all these Boston people,
and I was hosting that week.
I was just having trouble getting the Boston accent,
because I had been away for years,
and Rachel was losing her mind.
That does not sound like Rachel Dratch.
No, no, she was getting really frustrated,
like, no, no, no, it's like on the corner,
you know, and I'd be like, yeah, on the corner,
and she'd be like, no, no, no.
She was really, I was making her as upset.
I blame Brookline for like, yeah, on the corner. She was really, I was making her as upset. I blame Brookline for this because I mean,
there is a way to dig into the accent
that once you get in there,
it's almost like you can never get out.
It's like a comfy chair to get in there.
It's not just the accent, there's an attitude too.
I don't know if you have this, but if I'm in Boston
and I go there a lot to see my family,
there's a, Conan, come here! Come here!
There's a, you kind of work for me,
I know you're from Boston, so get over here.
So I'm walking the other way,
hey, Conan, come here, come here!
Fuck, it's Conan, you know, come here!
Climb over this thing.
And you're like, this is incredible.
There's a sense that I'm from Boston, you're from Boston,
you're not some fucking big deal, get over here.
And I kinda like it, and then there are times
where I'm like, oh, come on.
100%, the best and worst thing about Boston
is there's a feeling of like, you're not better than me.
You know, like, we're all the same,
we're all in this together, Boston's strong,
hi, how are you, good for you.
Boston's strong, yeah.
But it's like, you're doing well, Amy, huh?
Like, it's very, it's aggressive love.
And it's very nice to feel, and also it's sometimes scary.
Well, I think I've mentioned this before,
but I was in Boston and I was staying in a hotel,
and I was staying at a bar, and I go into the men's room,
and this woman, who I want to say was 55,
followed me into the men's room while I met the urinal.
And she was like, hey, gone.
And I was like, uh, yeah, I met the urinal.
And she's like, ah, Mr. Hollywood.
Like, no, it's, I think this is illegal.
Yeah, it's illegal, yeah.
Yeah, I don't think you're supposed to be in here.
No, yeah, it's very stra, I mean, I, look,
I, all my relatives still live in Boston.
I love going back there.
It is this thing where Boston
really doesn't want you to forget.
And also Boston is the thing where they talk
about neighboring towns as if anyone
would know what they're talking about.
Boston feels like the center of their own world.
So they'll throw out towns and stuff happening
to people that are from Michigan,
and it's like, no one knows what you're talking about
But Boston is the they are their own center also
I remember growing up first of all you listen to school cancellations and you'd wait for your town to come up
But the second thing is there are all these ads for like the light and leisure building
Yeah, I think it was in Burlington and they were like it's in Burlington the light and leisure
I don't know exactly what they were selling. I think it was lights and leisure clothing
Which doesn't make any sense was like light and leisure Burlington, the light and leisure. I don't know exactly what they were selling. I think it was lights and leisure clothing, which doesn't make any sense.
But it was like light and leisure, Burlington,
you know, get off this whatever.
And I just, so that's drilled into my head.
Totally.
I feel like, and also there's just a,
there's something about the vibe there that you,
I mean, this is something I really like about it.
And New York is very similar too, which is there's a directness to how people talk to each
other and how what they expect of each other. So they're kind of like kind but
not nice. Yes. And California is nice but not always kind. So it's confusing here
because people are friendly but they're not really nice but there they're like I
gotta go I can't I can't help I got it like you got to keep walking like
everyone's telling you to hurry up,
but they're very kind.
They'll help you.
It's weird, it's different here in California.
There's a kindness in there,
but it's got this crusty shell.
Whereas here, everything has this kind of smooth shell.
And then you say, oh, my, you know,
can you help me change my tire?
And they're like, we can't.
I'm so sorry. But I want that for you.
I want that for you.
If you died, it would mean nothing to me.
You know, it's odd to think about it now,
but you and Tina, you're this wave of women
that came along, and I think it's easy for people
to take it for granted now.
Yes, there were women before you, and I know you have your idols are like Gilda Radner,
Lucille Ball, Catherine O'Hara,
who I sat next to at the 50th anniversary.
I saw that.
How cool.
I mean, I see her from time to time and I love Catherine O'Hara.
Sometimes she's very earnest.
So when the show was about to start and Paul Simon came up, and I get the microphone and Sabrina Carpenter came up and she's very earnest, so when the show is about to start and Paul Simon came up,
and he's, I get the microphone, and Sabrina Carpenter
came up and she's at her microphone,
and they're both ready to go, and she went,
oh, this is Paul Simon, this is gonna be good,
and I said, well, we'll see.
And she looked at me, like, and she was like,
what do you mean?
And I said, you know, these things come and go.
You never know what's going on.
Which is, he's always great.
And she was like, fuck you, he's always great.
And this is like, I'm picking a fight with Catherine O'Hara
before as they're calling out three, two, one.
My fun name drop of that weekend, which was really fun,
was there were so many people,
the people had to share dressing rooms.
So I was sharing my dressing room with Meryl Streep.
Oh my God.
And I'm like, you know, just like a fan,
I took a picture of the door that said my name
and Meryl Streep.
She was getting ready for her sketch and really rehearsing it. And I remember thinking, I took a picture of the door that said my name and Meryl Streep. She was getting ready for her sketch
and really rehearsing it and I remember thinking,
I never rehearsed as hard as Meryl Streep has.
In this one moment.
She's taking this very seriously.
Don't overthink it.
Don't overthink it.
It's vaudeville.
Be loud.
That's what I wanted to say.
Just be loud.
Yes, and then in the seats,
which was a night of all famous alumni and people,
I sat down and I turned to my left and it was Jack Nicholson.
Yes.
And I was like, of course, my old friend, my dear friend, Jack Nicholson.
Yeah.
It was funny.
I think when those things happen, I just go with it.
Yeah.
I just say, of course, Jack Nicholson's here.
Of course.
Letterman sat like three rows down from me and I went over and said hi and was struck by his beard.
I mean, literally it hit me.
It's incredible.
It hit me.
He turned and I was slapped by his beard.
I feel like that's what success is,
is being able to perform at an event
in front of your comedy heroes
and give like a B minus performance and not wanna die.
That's success.
Yes.
It is because it's happened so many times in my life now
where I've had to do the AFI tribute or something
in front of Steve Martin and I walk away and go,
well, that was a B minus.
And I go, well.
You might be being a little hard on yourself.
No, I could think of hard, hard B minuses.
Okay.
Oh, I know the one you're talking about, yeah.
I don't.
You can't call me up.
You can't call me up.
I called you up and I said that was.
You gave me that grade.
I said B minus, that was like a C plus.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you met Tina at Improv Olympics in Chicago, 1993.
What made you know that you two were going to be like
sort of peanut butter and jelly was it was cool
Sharna Halpern who was this woman running that theater at the time?
Said to both of us. Oh, I know a woman that you would like and
She just put us on an improv team together and I knew Tina was from Philly
And I knew she had written a really funny play about Catherine the Great and her intimate relationship with her horse.
I knew she was really smart and funny,
but when we met, we just kind of,
we don't actually, we were on the road doing a show
and we kind of talk about how we don't actually remember
the exact moment we met,
because we didn't know we'd be married for so long
and so in love, but we just got put on an improv team
and we just instantly, and I think this is the case today,
just worked together so well.
Like we like to work the same way,
which you know when you work with people,
there's a language that you have and how you like to work
and you either kind of have it or you don't,
and if you do have it, it's the best.
An update, and any time I've seen you two together,
you always have A plus jokes. You have great jokes, great delivery. Some people think, it's the best. On update, and anytime I've seen you two together, you always have A plus jokes.
You have great jokes, great delivery.
Some people think, what's the trick?
It's like, well, yes, have good delivery is really important,
and sometimes you need to have a saver,
but have the stuff,
and you two always have really good stuff.
You know, because I feel like I've given you credit for this,
so tell me if you've said this.
Yes, I did it. You did. given you credit for this, so tell me if you've said this. Yes, I did it.
You did.
But we talk about this and you saying this a lot,
which is when you're doing comedy,
you have to have good jokes all the time
and new jokes all the time.
And then you see musicians go up and sing their song.
Man, if I could just go up and sing a hit
over and over again.
I have this experience which is,
I was in, I wanna say Phoenix, Arizona,
and I had to do something for an affiliate,
so I'm there, and I go in, and of course,
I don't have Phoenix, Arizona affiliate material
in my back pocket.
I have to bother my writers, I have to thank myself,
what stuff I can say, what's going on,
find out what the local references are,
and construct the whole thing from scratch.
And I get to, before we get started,
I go down to the lobby and I see Sting is there,
and he's just got a guitar on his back and a leather case.
And I went, oh, hey, how's it going?
He's like, oh, it's going all right.
And I said, what are you doing?
He said, I'm doing a benefit.
And I said, I'm doing a benefit too.
I'm doing something for, and I've been working,
and I've been working.
I said, what are you going to do? And he said, I'm going to play Roxanne. And I'm going to'm doing a benefit too. I'm doing something for, and I've been working and I've been working. I said, what are you gonna do? And he said, I'm gonna play Roxanne.
And I'm gonna play every step you take.
And he's not even thinking about it.
He's not even thinking about it.
And everyone's delighted.
Yes, that's what they want.
Yeah, no one's, I was at an event with you.
I remember this really well.
It was an event with you at the Museum of Natural History.
And I don't know if I was performing or what,
but then the music came out, and it was Jon Bon Jovi.
And he did cowboy on a steel horse.
You jumped up.
You lost your mind, and you were screaming all of the lyrics,
which was great.
And then I look over, and Jon Bon Jovi's wife is doing it.
What?
Yeah, she's there too.
And she's like, yeah, yeah, I love this.
And I'm thinking that's a good marriage.
That is a good marriage.
Their marriage has lasted all these years.
Dorothea, I know everything about her.
Yeah, she's very cool.
Oh, yes, Dorothea.
Yes, well aware of Dorothea.
Looked her up all the time.
John Bon Jovi.
She's very cool.
High school sweetheart.
So cool, yes, high school sweetheart.
I think she might need to worry.
Are you coming after her?
I mean, Dorothea has seen a lot,
probably a lot more threatening people
throwing themselves at John than me,
but their marriage is strong, I believe it is.
And I love John Bon Jovi.
I mean, I went to Bon Jovi when I was in high school,
I even wrote a sketch about it at SNL,
where when he hosted, John Bon Jovi came out of the poster
in my childhood bedroom.
And I dressed up like I looked when I was 13
and John Bon Jovi, the musician went into his storage
and wore the same outfit that was on the poster
is still fit.
So he keeps it really tight.
And that's why Dorothea is still interested.
I like how he went into his storage.
No, he had it in his closet.
Yeah, he was wearing it that day.
He has all of his poster clothes in his closet
right off his bedroom.
Well, I would say in response to you saying
about good jokes, I think you and I could probably say
that we both came up at a time when the writer was king
and writers were really important at was king and writers were really important
at SNL and they were really important on your show.
And not only do I, like some of them are here
in the building and I've worked with some of them forever,
but they were also writer performers
and you had a bunch of them on the show and same at SNL.
Like it just was, you just can't go in with flimsy material.
You have to just keep trying jokes,
which I'm sure you're getting ready to do for the Oscars
and everything like over and over again.
No, I haven't started yet.
Oh, good, good, good.
It's days away and I just figured, you know,
this will write itself. Yeah, you have to wait and see,
though. Yeah, doing the parking lot
on the way in. Yeah.
But no, that's all Lorne.
Lorne Michaels, and it's not everywhere.
There used to be this era, for a long time,
writers were kept like rats in this back room.
I had a really good first job in LA
at Not Necessarily the News,
but we weren't part of the production.
We didn't really interact with the crew.
We were in a room,
Greg Daniels and I were in a room with Billy Kimball,
and we just had desks that faced each other
like accountants,
and we just banged out sketches all day long,
sight gags, whatever.
And then at the end of the day,
we'd submit them and go home.
But that was, and I remember thinking,
this is not the show business I wanted to be in.
I wanna be backstage.
I wanna see show girls, people in horse costumes,
people dressed, you know, as a knight.
I want all that craziness and get to SNL.
It didn't matter if you were like me, 23, 24 years old.
He'd just say, all right, what have you got?
What's your name? Conan.
Okay, and let's hear your idea and you tell the idea.
Okay, go pitch it to Steve Martin.
Me?
Or go pitch it to comedy, pick any comedy icon.
And I remember thinking, you're allowing me
to go into a room alone with this person?
I could have, you know, like, why do we,
have you done a background check on me?
Yeah, finish that sentence. I know, you could. You would have a knife. Why do we, have you done a background check on me? Yeah, finish that sentence.
I know you could.
You would have a what?
A knife?
Well, I mean, if it was, I carried a knife back then.
You always bring, yeah, you always were flashing your knife.
It's a Brookline thing.
You were spinning your knife.
It was a Brookline thing.
Yeah, a Brookline knife.
You're a knife guy.
You're a knife guy.
It was one of those ones that flips out and flips back
and I was always around and I remember it a lot,
it was like, can you not do that?
But it's Brookline, so it's a cheese knife.
It's for cutting cheese.
It's for a breeze.
Having parties and stuff.
It's for a breeze, yeah.
Look at this.
And then nice for you.
Yeah, and a beautiful slice of a breeze.
But one of the things I always loved about you,
and I don't know if this comes from,
I read somewhere maybe it comes from your dad,
but you were fearless physically,
comedically, and you are, like, you know, you would, if the joke called for you as Andy's
little sister to go charging down the aisle and leap and hit him so that he falls over.
I look at that footage now, it's online.
It's a good jump, it's a good jump.
You leap like a leopard, you hit Andy, he goes over,
it's one of the biggest laughs I've heard in studio,
because the running joke was you have a crush on me
and I'm always trying to politely explain that I'm,
and then you think Andy's whatever getting in the way
and you attack, and you would give these great speeches,
but you run- Written by the great Brian Stack.
By the great Brian Stack.
I remember you, I do think there is,
I hope it's still not the case,
but there used to be this kind of long ago.
I don't know what you're gonna say.
I know, me neither, I'm excited.
There used to be serfs in the medieval period.
Oh, we're going far that, that part.
Okay, here we go.
No, no, in a sense that you gotta be lady-like.
Do you know what I mean?
That if a guy's, I mean, I remembered my mom
being a little bit that way,
which is if I'm being completely inappropriate,
it was funny if one of my sisters was doing it,
it was like, now hold on, that's not really,
and it was a thing.
She came from a very traditional Irish Catholic background
and you've gotta be a lady, and so I don't know.
Yeah, well, you bring up my dad, but I do think it's true like your family of origin
just helps you kind of decide the boundaries of of your life right like
where what you're allowed to do and I had a kind of like a paper moon
relationship with my dad where he was very like on the move and took me with
him kind of vibe so he definitely instilled a lot of confidence and almost
like a hustle that um didn't feel very gendered
at the time.
It wasn't like I was supposed to be this or, you know,
he kind of, both my parents were very funny.
There was a lot of encouragement to speak my mind,
to kind of be a little bit of a challenger.
Which I didn't think was unusual until I did learn
other people's systems.
Like every family is a country with its own set of rules
and you don't know that that's true
until you leave your country and you're like,
oh, your family, your dad is the one that everybody ignores
or the older brother is, right?
The older brother's moods dictate the house,
dictate the mood of the house or oh, in your family,
you have to be polite
and never tell the truth, whatever is everyone's version
of their thing.
And I came from a family, I have to say,
that really encouraged joking and teasing,
which is a very Boston thing.
And it wasn't until I left that family and went to other,
like went to college that I realized
that's not everybody's way of life.
Well, I remember my shock being coming out to Los Angeles
and hanging out with, meeting Lisa Kudrow
and hanging out and going over to her house.
And her family was just, would talk,
they lived in Tarzana, her dad's a doctor.
They would talk very openly about sex
and it would freak me out.
It still does.
Like sex has never been discussed or acknowledged
in my home with my parents.
It was never ever.
And if something remotely sexy came on TV,
it was, you know, like we could all see our breath.
You are an actual stork baby.
Yeah.
And then we'd just all get out of the room
as fast as we could.
And so, and to this day, I mean, nothing,
people don't talk about that stuff.
Or have you ever seen families, I'm
thinking of a specific family, when it would be their birthday,
they would stand up and they'd give the most heartfelt toast.
Like, you are my sister.
You're the person who, and it's so heartfelt.
And you're like, this happens once,
and it happens at somebody's funeral
when everybody's left.
Yeah.
Like, this is so intense to, like, the eye contact contact in real life. Like teasing for me is a love language.
Like the more I like you, the more I'll tease.
And manners are for people that I don't know
or don't even really like.
Like, hi, how are you?
But the tease to me shows that there's a familiar way
and it's just the ultimate sign of love.
But that's not the case with a lot of people.
No.
I've learned the hard way.
Yeah, I remember dating someone once a long time ago
and meeting her parents for the first time.
And I said something like some kind of teasing
mock put down of her like,
you know, well, keep working on that.
And her mother went,
we don't do that in this house.
Oh!
We don't put people down.
And I remember thinking, I need to go.
I need to leave right now because that's not gonna fly.
You know what I mean?
But the Irish in me loves laughing and crying
right next to each other.
That's my favorite thing is being sad
and then someone saying something truly ridiculous
or out of pocket in the moment that makes everybody laugh.
That's, I think, very Irish.
Just getting as low as you can
and going to the lowest basement
and then finding the joke there
and like shooting it up so that everybody can drink more.
Yeah.
It's like everything we learned was...
So there's a reason to toast.
That was just implied.
You know, it's interesting because you were talking to me
about how you just always thought our show was there to stay
and it was fine.
A lot of people don't know because this interesting thing has happened with Parks and Recreation where
it is now just one of those shows that's chapter and verse and comedy people know it.
And not just comedy people but it's like it plays a lot. People really know it. It's esteemed.
It's it's and they don't know that it was a running gun battle to keep that thing on the air.
Big time.
Yeah, every year we thought we were gone.
For maybe the first four or five
out of the seven seasons we were on,
because our show was on the table,
hooked up to machines,
and then a new show would come wheeling in next to us,
and they'd just be like, clear!
And they were just trying to save that show
over and over again,
and then they'd call time of death, and they'd put this sheet over the show, and they'd bring be like, clear! And they were just trying to save that show over and over again, and then they'd call time of death,
and they'd put this sheet over the show,
and they'd bring the show out.
We were like, well.
Well, suddenly Susan didn't make it.
Parks and Rec's still here.
Totally.
We had about five up-fronts where it was like,
this is the next new big show,
and we would watch it come in so hot
with tons of marketing, and then it would die,
and we would just be like in so hot with tons of marketing and then it would die and we would just be like,
beep, beep, beep.
And so we hung in there and long enough until finally,
like season five, like your show,
like critically we were very loved,
but we were always worried we were gonna get canceled.
And although we would all give anything
to have those numbers now, whatever we had.
It was like, you know, we have a 3.8 or whatever,
and I was like, this is a disaster, you know?
But then streaming happened, started to happen.
It all started to dovetail at the same time.
I am, I mean, almost every day I thank the streaming gods
and the internet because I never thought thought the stuff that we were making,
I always thought we did this really weird thing tonight,
it'll never be seen again.
It's just tonight and maybe it'll be rerun once
in the summer, but then that's it, it's gone.
And I was at the SNL thing
and when you buy a Samsung television,
there's a Conan O'Brien channel.
And it won't go off my TV.
Well, here's the thing.
Trying to get it off.
Bill Murray came up to me and he was like,
uh, yeah, Conan, there's this thing on my TV,
it's just you, and it's you.
And I went, honey, and he went, and I can't get it off.
I was like, well, I can't help you.
And he went, yeah, you know, it's really good, you know?
But it was just so weird that that stuff
that I thought would never be seen,
there's moments on the internet, it all runs.
And the good work gets picked out, it rises to the top.
There's plenty of stuff we all did that we're like, okay.
But that tends to not get passed around as much.
And it creates this illusion that everything we did was super funny.
That's true.
In my case, it's like, no, that's a complete illusion.
You're just not seeing the other ones because they don't get clicks.
That's for sure.
Yeah, that's sketch in a nutshell too.
So much of it is just like,
how are you, what's your batting average? Like it's, you're gonna, you're gonna,
you're gonna get one out of three good sketches if you're lucky. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I feel like
Parks was like that, the trajectory of that. And getting back to your show for a second,
what was so exciting about being there at the beginning, not only was one of our own,
like Andy was an improviser that we knew,
who suddenly could.
From Chicago, yeah.
Yeah, from Chicago, who could buy an apartment,
and we could go over to it.
Yeah.
You know, we were like, what?
I remember he had parties,
he had an apartment that was like
on 19th or 20th Street downtown,
and it was kind of a loft,
and he, you know, I wasn't having parties,
I was just, you know,
but I would go to Andy's parties,
and it was everyone from UCB's, was kind of aloft and he, you know, I wasn't having parties. I was just, you know, but I would go to Andy's parties
and it was everyone from UCB's, you and Matt Walsh
and Besser and Ian and it's just like this whole salon
of super funny people.
Plus sometimes you go to an Andy party
and there'd be like a guy in a fez in the corner
with an eye patch.
It looked, it had, there were like people
with parrots on their shoulders.
It was-
Yes, and it was just like New York, like, you know,
early nineties, like David Rakoff and Amy Sedaris,
and you know, all these like people
that were kind of coming through
and just starting out as well in different ways.
It felt very chic.
And then also truly your show allowed me to pay my rent,
get health insurance, tell my parents
that I was gonna be on TV.
All the beginnings of that, It got me so many jobs. People saw, I think, my first movie, which
was the world famous Deuce Bigelow. Very proud of my performance in that. But I remember I think-
You killed it.
Killed it. But Rob Schneider, I think, saw me like on your show. and I think that stuff helped me when we were selling
UCB the sketch show it was it was just such a huge deal and I can remember you
know under six and remember that like you know if you had under six lines on
on Conan show you got paid a certain amount of money and then if you got over
six yeah you got paid like a hundred bucks more you know because of sag
minimums and stuff it was a huge deal, we did a ton of staring contests.
Yeah, yeah.
A ton of bits.
I think my first thing was I was under a giant,
me and John Benjamin were under giant foam rubber Conan
and Andy outfits.
Yeah.
And we had to run around a track all day or something.
I remember I was saw...
It makes no sense.
No sense.
I was like, I made it.
I did it.
I was just at this SNL and I saw Tina and I saw,
she's with her husband, Jeff, Jeff Richmond.
Immediately, I'm sorry Jeff,
but I immediately go to when we first use Jeff Richmond,
who scores all this stuff, he's very brilliant,
he's incredibly successful.
We used him and he played cupid.
So he was in a diaper,
hanging on a rope with a bow and arrow,
and some glitter in his hair and no shirt,
and he's just spinning at rehearsal awkwardly and
I didn't know who Jeff was and then it's over and I mean
I think I'm doing something and Amy had passed I'm not Amy Tina had passed a monitor when she went that's my husband you fucker
What have you done to him?
Get an Oscar for scoring something and I'll still think, hey, you a Cuban.
I learned so much on that show.
I learned how to like, you know, get ready for a bit,
how to not peek too early,
how to figure out what the audience,
like, you know, just basically how to play the rhythm
of the audience, like camera blocking,
all that stuff I knew nothing about.
It's funny to me because I remember SNL
really wanted you to do it and you were hesitant.
Do you remember that?
Yes, I remember there was, I don't know if that's,
but I remembered it wasn't like yes, yes, yes, yes.
Unless I'm remembering it incorrectly,
but that's how it felt to me.
I think I was, I don't think I was ever hesitant,
but at the time I had auditioned for a couple things
that were, and I had this stress of almost like
this good girl stress of like, I can't say no
to these other things that might happen,
and they were all LA jobs,
because it was during pilot season.
And I remember thinking, what if I tell the people
I told them yes, and then I have to tell them no?
Like, I was very stressed about that.
But I don't remember waiting very long.
And, you know, I had the privilege
of Tina really vouching for me.
She was already there.
And Dratch and Horatio and people that were there
who kind of were able to say, like,
she might be a good hire, take a look at her.
But, yeah, I'm so glad I didn't balk at that.
And then you guys did, you and Tina did update
for four years?
Was it four or five?
No, it must have been four, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
But I'm not sure.
Well, I need to know.
I know.
Maybe three?
We called your publicist that we need exact times.
Three, four, I don't know.
It's all a blur.
Well, that doesn't help me.
It's all a blur.
It doesn't help me.
I'm so sorry.
Six, five, four.
Okay, let's just not do this anymore.
I'm sorry, Conan, five, four. Okay, let's just not do this anymore. I'm sorry, Conan, two, one.
Yeah.
It was 15 years that you did.
It was 15.
Yeah, but I came in after Jimmy left,
and you know, the fun thing about that show
is people leave and people think,
how is this show gonna go on?
And it just does, it keeps going on.
Just keeps going, yeah.
Like, you know. I started in 2001,
two weeks after September 11th,
when the whole country was like,
we're never gonna laugh again.
Right.
Comedy's over, that's it, that's a wrap.
And I remember thinking, um.
But I hear you, and yes, respectfully I hear you.
There was a famous article that said,
I don't know if it was Kurt Anderson or someone,
just said irony is dead.
Like they'll never be, nothing will ever be ironic again.
And, and.
Except that statement.
Yeah, exactly.
It's just like, well, no, human, this is what humans do.
We go through, whether it's the fires in Los Angeles,
whether it's 9-11, where it's, you know,
we get hit over the head, we are stunned,
we collect ourselves, and then we go back
to doing what we do.
Well, that's why I'm happy to be here today,
and why I'm starting a podcast too,
is because all I want to do now is laugh.
That's it. Like, I need, I want to be around people
who, like, up-regulate me.
I want to find joy in things.
It's been a rough and rowdy 10 years. And I just feel like it's, I just need to find
for my own mental health that kind of thing.
I think first of all, you're gonna kill it.
But second of all, I think, I mean,
everyone's gonna wanna talk to you.
You can do both.
You can be funny, but you can also talk about real things.
I mean, to me, that's the secret,
is just to be open and accessible, I think.
What's been the best part of doing this?
Like, what have you found?
I have to say, I just...
Us. Yeah.
Oh.
Sorry. These aren't my prescription glasses.
Let me see you talking.
Oh, okay. It's me.
Oh, no.
Oh, no? Okay.
Me? Who's that?
Me? Oh, God, no.
Me?
That's a tiny me. I think what I like, God no. That's a new tiny me.
I think what I like about it
is after all those years of,
dun-da-dun-da-da-da-da, okay, we're back.
Now our next guest, you know,
you know him from the song Rocket Man,
Elton John's here, whatever, six minutes,
and then, Elton John, everybody, all right,
ba-da-ba-da, you know.
What's the matter with you?
You know him from the song Rocket Man?
If you don't mention Rocket Man,
no one knows who Elton John is.
That's a true fact.
I brought him out and said,
you know from playing the jazz, he gets nothing.
People boo.
But I think my favorite thing is that this format
is really liberating.
And so how many times have you and I
encountered each other over the years?
How many times have you done the show?
But now I really get to sit and talk to you.
And it's a treat for me.
I look forward to it.
I was excited today that you were coming in because I haven't talked to you for like a
solid 45 minutes before.
And this is fun.
There's no like magic trick.
It's just fun to do.
It is fun.
And I would say I would posit a deeper thing there
is that it's connection.
Like it's actual intimacy and connection,
which I do think we're very hungry for.
Yes.
Everything feels very front-facing and very external
and like out into the world.
And I do think we're lonelier than ever.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I think what you hear,
or if you're looking at clips online on this podcast,
or see, is what it is.
So this is what it is.
And then if we break and go to lunch,
we fight and bicker and joke and put each other down
the way we would here on the podcast.
This is just what it is.
It's not, okay, got to get ready
to pretend to be this person.
And I'm saying this for better or for worse.
This is, you know, this is who I am, this is who you are.
I'm not sure what you're doing.
No, I'm not.
You're just a big mess, man.
Yeah, I don't know.
You're a shape-shifter.
It's been a tough 10 years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, someone told me, and I just wanna,
because my wife has a fascination with the show below deck
Oh, I watch below deck and I don't get it and my wife is very smart and she has excellent taste
But when she's watching below deck, I'm like, I don't understand not that much is happening. I love that. She loves below deck
That's a sign of a smart lady. Yeah, I don't watch I do not watch a lot of reality TV
I don't like people getting embarrassed and And people get embarrassed on every reality show.
But I don't like like, or like fake, fake drama.
But what I like about Below Deck,
and I wonder if your wife feels the same,
is when they clean the boat.
They have to turn over the boat.
They have to get it clean.
And every time it's like, are they gonna make it?
We don't like, so there's some weird thing
where your brain, it's almost like,
it's like watching some, like a set be reset.
You're watching it get reset.
And I like clear delineations of power, who is in charge.
So there is a captain.
Like whether or not you like the captain,
you know, that's your problem, but the chain of command is very clear
Yes
And there's the head, you know, there's the head of the I should know all these names having watched it
But like so many iterations of it now exactly
So people have to report to each other and that kind of status stuff really makes me laugh
But you're right. You're right. It's the cleaning of the boat.
There is something about,
there'll be like young, good looking couples
that hook up on the boat.
And I find that that isn't as exciting to me as I get into,
the chef has to make a meal
and it's always these incredibly entitled rich people.
An incredible rich.
Do you know what I mean?
And they're always there and they're like,
this is for my wife's anniversary.
And then they'll say things like, maybe it's fake,
but they'll say at 11 o'clock in the morning,
you know, we want tonight's theme to be,
and then they announce some insane theme.
They're on a boat in the middle of the Aegean Sea
and they're suddenly scrambling around,
trying to find, okay, the theme is volcanoes.
They're building little volcanoes.
People are dressing up as...
And then the cook has to make the chef,
has to make the food for everybody.
It's always going wrong, and then it comes together.
And it's very satisfying.
And then what do you have to do at the end?
You gotta clean the boat.
You gotta turn it over.
You gotta get the sheets done.
You gotta spray the deck and the aft. You can't just... You gotta turn it over. You gotta get the sheets done. You gotta spray the deck and the aft.
You can't just, you gotta clean it.
You know, you might be onto something and maybe,
Adam, I'm just gonna throw this out there,
we should include a segment where we're like
hosing this table down.
Oh my God, by the way, I would watch the shit out of that.
If you ASMR'd this table and you put soap on it
and then you washed it. Wiped it down. Yes. And then spilled marbles on it. If you ASMR'd this table and you put soap on it
and then you washed it.
Wiped it down.
And then spilled marbles on it.
And then the sound of the marbles.
And you had to pick the marbles up.
And Eduardo designed this so he's freaking out
that we're getting soapy water.
Happy to clean this table every post session.
But like, just we could make that a new thing on the show.
Yeah, and if these mics could be be made of kinetic sand, I would appreciate
Play around with that all these
cool
Tactile this incredible. Yeah, so good for a podcast
People love it. Yeah, there's I mean I don't but I can't I don't really watch any other
I don't like any I don't like people being embarrassed or stressed on TV. It gets me very stressed.
I hate pranks.
I hate pranks.
And I always, my whole life,
if someone wanted to do a prank on someone,
my mind would always go, what if someone gets hurt?
Yeah.
I don't know why.
It could even be just the simplest prank,
and I think, I don't know,
someone could get hurt and end up paralyzed.
And people would be like, what are you talking about?
We're just giving them a birthday cake,
but it's not their birthday.
I'm like, yeah, I don't know, somebody could end up paralyzed.
I don't know why I always went to that.
Yeah, pranks feel very Gen X.
Like we grew up with a lot of pranks,
like Candid Camera and then later on, you know, Knoxville
and-
Ashton Kutcher.
Yeah.
And Jackass and Punk'd.
And so we had a lot of pranks in our life
and maybe we just got pranked out, pranked out.
But I don't like pranks.
And if someone did a prank to me But I don't like pranks.
And if someone did a prank to me,
I would feel like they hate me.
Like, I would feel super sad.
Like, I've never had a surprise birthday thrown for me.
The one time I think it was gonna happen,
I found out and I kind of put a kibosh on it.
Because to me, a surprise party is an evil, evil act of treachery.
BITRAIL.
Yeah, betrayal.
Yeah, it's a prank.
Anyway, you're launching this weekly video podcast,
Good Hang with Amy Poehler.
It's going to come out this March.
It's scheduled for a March 10th release.
I will be listening to this podcast.
I'd be thrilled to do it if you ever want me on.
Oh my God, please.
Thank you for saying that.
I would love to have you on.
No, no, seriously.
I would love to do it.
Thanks, Conan.
I love hanging with you, and you're one of my favorite people of all time, and I know
you're gonna kill this.
So it's a gift that all those years ago you came into my life and were so funny and elevated
everything on our show.
Not everything, but a lot of things.
Um, why did I have to correct that?
No, I-I-I mean, it could be.
But any sketches you were in, it was just a magical time,
and I do feel nostalgic too, so.
I do too. I feel, and I have to say,
like, the beginnings of things are the most tender time,
where everybody's the most tender.
Yeah.
And you were so kind to not only me,
but UCB and everybody during that time.
You gave a lot of us our start, so thank you very much.
I'm glad I get to say that to you.
I feel like a little bit of a cut.
Yes, and you did make me sign something that I regret.
I really regret.
You're like Simon Cowell.
Yeah, I am.
Conan owns half of my house.
Yeah.
I just, I treated them all like they were a boy band
in South Korea.
And they were like, well, this is awful.
Amy Poehler, thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much for having me.
This was great.
It was so fun, guys.
Thank you so much.
["The Time of the Year"]
We're doing a series of ongoing staff reviews around the Team Coco facility here.
It is important that every business rigorously investigate the employees and kick the tires
on this thing.
Make sure that every cog in the machine is working properly, don't you think?
Yeah.
With that in mind today,
we're going to someone I've known for a very long time.
Her name is Paula Davis.
Hi, Paula.
Hi, Conan.
Don't just push the microphone up to your,
that's the thing that, yes, there you go.
That's how it works.
Is that good?
That's good, right there.
That's good.
Paula.
Yes, sir.
You are my head booker.
You've been my booker at late night from day one.
This is true.
And we knew each other before that
because you were one of the first people I met
when I showed up bright-eyed and bushy-tailed
in February of 1988.
I show up at Saturday Night Live
with my friend Greg Daniels.
We both walk in, and I sit down up in the area
that's kind of near where Lorne Michaels' office is,
and I start chatting with this very funny, wise guy,
young lady, it's you, and I remembered immediately thinking,
she's like my sister, she's really funny and quick,
and I connected with you right away.
Do you remember that?
Thanks, I do.
Sort of remember, I remember we connected right away.
You asshole.
See?
See what I'm telling you?
Conan O'Brien walked into a room
and you kinda remember? You weren't Conan O'Brien walked into a room and you kinda remember.
You weren't Conan O'Brien then.
That's right.
You were just this guy that was super young.
That was before I changed my name.
Exactly.
You were just new writer guy.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
But I did like you.
Yeah, and we, so we knew each other in that world
and then you were with me all through late night,
tonight show, TBS.
And then when this thing started up, you were doing that.
So you've been finding the good people
for us to talk to all these years.
So I do, I mean, I'll start off by commending you
for your fine work.
Thank you.
That's how he's starting off.
Let's see where it goes.
This will be fun.
You know, I get irritated with you.
Oh yes, I do know that.
Because I try and talk to you in the morning
and you're teaching a yoga class.
That's true.
And first of all, she's very serious about yoga.
You teach yoga.
I do.
It's a great thing.
I didn't know you teach yoga.
I got certified a couple of years ago.
Wow, congrats Paul.
That's great.
That's cool.
Thanks, thanks you guys.
Yeah, and I always pick something insane to be offended by.
And I arbitrarily decided that you,
and also you work with like, you do wonderful work.
You're helping, aren't you helping people,
older people sometimes with yoga?
Yes, I volunteer at a senior center.
You do really nice things.
And I've decided that this is an affront.
Because that's time you could be booking some people.
Okay.
And I'm talking like seven o'clock in the morning,
she's doing this wonderful work with,
you know, basically elder care for free
where she volunteers and I'll harangue you.
You should book some of those seniors and that'll show.
That's a good idea.
Also in all fairness, anything that brings me joy,
you don't like.
Yes, that's true.
That is true for all your employees.
Joy killer.
You don't like them feeling joy.
Yeah, you're right.
I don't know what that is.
Why, why Paul, take a look and analyze it.
You're very smart.
And by the way, Paula once,
I was having this amazing interview,
and I will say it again, I've said it many times,
the best interviewer on the planet is Howard Stern.
I think he's a genius interviewer, always has been,
and he just gets better and better.
I idolize him as an interviewer.
He was interviewing me once.
We and I were having this moment and I brought you up
and he said, well, is Paula here? And we, because you're a huge Howard fan.
This is true.
You came in and you were petrified.
Petrified.
But you immediately psychoanalyzed us both brilliantly.
It was great.
Really, thanks.
Yeah, and then Howard was like, she was, wow, she's great.
What did you say about Conan?
I remember Conan saying, we were talking about
when he would come into my office
and needed to sort out certain things
and that I would say to him,
I'm not going down that road with you.
Whatever the road, crazy road that day was.
Yeah.
No, no, she has a, I'm not going down this road with you.
Oh, yes you are.
Yes, Paula, a long time ago,
and this was before I was getting cognitive therapy
and realizing that,
without getting crazily boring, but our thoughts
can take us places that then the emotions follow
and it can get very negative.
Anyway, you were the one that was like, no, no, no,
we're not going down that road.
We're not going down that negative road
that you have in your head about yourself.
And then you would say it the way you say to a dog,
nope, out, like off the couch.
No, no.
Yeah, off the couch. No, no. Yeah, off the couch.
I do that with our, we have a puppy now, Odin,
and he'll just jump up on the couch and Liza and I'll be like,
nope!
And he quickly jumps off.
That's how you are with me.
Oh, good.
We're not doing that.
Right.
It's great.
Exactly, thanks.
This is a glowing staff review.
I know, I have to.
Oh, sorry.
You go ahead.
Well, I don't know you that well, Paula,
but you're someone I greatly admire. Oh, thanks, girls. You go ahead. Well, I don't know you that well, Paula, but you're someone I greatly admire.
Oh, thanks, girls.
I always feel like you have an energy
that just helps and brings people up.
You're wonderful. That's so nice.
Thank you.
We gotta get this to be negative.
You know what, I actually have a question.
You'll find it, sure.
Because I feel like you've booked everybody.
Is there a white whale for you?
After all this time, is there someone that you would wanna-
Is it Cher?
Cause I hope it's Cher.
It's Cher.
Wow, what a-
Leading question.
Leading question.
Who is the-
Who do you want to book and why is it Cher?
It's Cher, Dr. Kovorkian.
Okay.
Anyone Armenian.
Come on, you always bring up Dr. Kovorkian's check in.
Listen, I would love to talk to Cher.
I have great admiration for Cher.
I don't know, she's never promoting something.
We haven't, I don't know, or maybe she is
and she doesn't want to do our show.
I don't know.
We're into it.
Sorry, we're trying to work on dates.
Yeah.
If you must know.
Really?
Yes.
Wow.
I don't know if it's gonna work out.
We have very limited availability, I will just say.
I will write any note you need me to write.
Oh, that'll, yeah, good luck getting that past her.
Nine layers of security.
What?
I'm a median too, let me in!
Let me in and share!
I know that your real name is Cher, Cher, Cher, and in.
What?
What is her real name?
Sherrilyn Sarkasian.
Okay, all right.
I'm just saying, no, but that's a real question.
Is there somebody who's not, and why is it Cher?
You know, it's Cher because we haven't done her yet.
If there is someone, honestly,
I can't think of who it is right now,
although I don't want to say, no, I don't know.
That's a tricky thing because you're putting Paul
in a situation where she may have to say a name.
Oh, and I have a terrible memory.
So there definitely is, but I honestly can't think who it is.
Also, I think it's someone who's been dead for a while.
That's probably true.
Cause she is for it on Mike.
That's a great idea.
That's a great idea.
Paul is always trying to book people
that died quite a long time ago.
That does happen.
That's one of my gifts.
Is it exhausting to have meetings with Conan
because he's always doing like jokes and stuff and like-
No, it's the best.
No, be serious.
Paula, you're lying.
Sorry.
No, no, be truthful.
Oh, okay, well, it depends.
There's a lot of varieties.
Okay.
If it's a big meeting and there's a lot of people there,
you have to wait for the time where Conan teases everyone
in the room separately.
And then you have to wait until,
so you have to get through that.
But if it's one-on-one, it's not so bad.
There's a lot, I can handle, whatever it is,
I can handle it.
Are there too many bits?
No.
Do you like the bits?
I do like the bits.
Sometimes Paula has a great laugh.
And if I can really, one of my favorite things to do,
which I can't recreate right now,
but I used to walk into an office
and you'd be there with Gina Battista.
And I think I tricked them almost every time.
But we'd be talking and I would make sure
that we were in a pretty serious vein.
And they always had, you know, magazines, celebrity magazines there
because they're in booking and they would flip through them
to get ideas, you know, did we not have this person
and another person?
And so, you know, I'd pick up one of those,
an us magazine, whatever, and I'd flip through
and I'd go like, oh fuck.
And you would go like, what, what's the problem?
And I'd go, why, if I'm in this, if I'm in this,
why did you have the magazine here?
And you guys would think for a second,
oh shit, there's like a paparazzi photo of Conan
and it's not flattering or he gets upset
if he sees himself.
And I would then proceed to read copy very fluently.
Yes.
Like fluidly.
Legit.
Meaning I'd be flipping through and I'd go like,
hey, I didn't know I was in this.
And why do you have this magazine out if I'm in it?
Why do you have this us magazine if I'm in it?
And Paula and Gina would go, oh, oh, oh, shoot,
I guess we didn't realize he's in it.
And then I'd say, Red Terror Rides Again.
And you guys would be listening,
and at first I'd make it plausible.
Cited, you know, a certain Carrot Top Quipster was cited.
Oh, always.
Whatever on, I always work that in,
a carrot top jokester was cited on La Cienega Boulevard,
you know, entering whatever,
and I would say like an ice cream store.
And then I would proceed to describe
the most horrible thing about myself.
Yeah.
That was completely fake,
but it was always me dropping my pants, spilling
ice cream, kicking an old woman.
Please stop hurting me, the old woman, a veteran of the Korean War, cried.
You'll take it and like it, O'Brien said.
As I remember, we didn't win that war, granny.
I mean, I would describe this absolute monster.
But Brian then said, where's my ice cream?
When the ice cream was not brought quickly enough
for the, and then I would say the freckled,
you know, late night star,
he grabbed the cone of a nearby boy in a wheelchair.
Looks like you lose out, wheelie.
in a wheelchair. Looks like you lose out, Wheelie.
I mean, absolute insane.
Oh my God.
And I think that's one of the things
that's never come out is my joy at,
I'd like to try to be a good person,
but I love imagining myself as the worst person alive.
And I would read these things and you would laugh
till you were crying and it would make me so happy.
It was good. It was good.
Okay.
It makes me angry how nice you are to Paula sometimes.
It really does.
Makes me angry that she gives of herself
at seven o'clock in the morning to yoga with elderly people
instead of she could be on the phone booking Dakota Johnson.
How dare I? I'm like, how dare I donate my time and my skill with elderly people instead of she could be on the phone booking Dakota Johnson.
How dare I, how dare I donate my time and my skills
and my karma and that seven o'clock time
is the only time Dakota Johnson can be booked.
That's right.
You know what Dakota Johnson said she's available
to take our call for a booking at 7 a.m.
She's the white whale.
She's the white whale, yeah.
Yeah, this is meant to be a cruel staff review and we just can't do it. Once again, you've made it all about you. Yeah. She's the white whale. She's the white whale, yeah. Yeah, this is meant to be a cruel staff review
and we just can't do it.
Once again, you've made it all about you.
Yeah.
Well, she's amazing.
I mean, I'll make it about Paula at the end.
Thanks, you guys.
You're great. Everyone loves Paula.
Everyone loves Paula Boring.
Sorry, love you guys.
But thank you for getting us all these amazing people.
Oh, you're welcome.
Thank you for employing me and giving me a great place to work.
Wait, you get paid? Not that much. Don't worry about it.
But you donate your time for the oldies.
Isn't that weird?
For the oldies!
Well, I'm sorry, they had their fun in the 1940s.
Why should they be getting a free ride now?
Oh, wait.
That's the guy from the fake-os magazine ad.
I know!
All right, Paula, we love you. Bye.
Thank you, bye.
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