Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Fanhausen (Re-Release)
Episode Date: January 16, 2025Re-release. Originally aired 4/14/2021. Please consider supporting those affected by the wildfires in Southern California. On the very first Conan O’Brien Needs a Fan, Conan talks with minor league... pro wrestler Donovan about his Conan-inspired wrestling persona. Then, Conan speaks on intrusive mothers and always being himself during a call with Leigh-Anne from Toronto. Wanna get a chance to talk to Conan? Submit here: teamcoco.com/apply Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/conan.
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Hey everybody, Conan O'Brien here and we're going to try something a little different
in the short time that I've been doing Conan O'Brien needs a friend.
I've just been delighted.
I'm having an absolute blast and it's working.
I'm actually making some nice bonds and friendships
with a lot of different people.
But what occurred to me is all these people
have one thing in common, they're celebrities.
And I thought it might be nice to try making friends
with average folk,
people out there in the world, civilians, not celebrities.
Just talk to the people who make this great country
we call the United States of America,
or even people from other countries.
It doesn't matter.
Let's just talk to some regular folk and then hope,
hope desperately that they become celebrities.
Oh my God.
That's the concept.
What do you guys think?
Horrible.
Yeah, I'm all in.
Why is that horrible?
It's very important to me
that eventually they become celebrities.
So you don't have time for anybody
that would live their whole life as a regular Joe.
As a folk.
Who would do that?
What kind of monster would choose that life?
No, seriously, I really do.
I do wanna, and especially I have to say,
a lot of this comes out of this last year.
Let's get outside this bubble,
this celebrity bubble that we're trapped in.
I'm not trapped in a celebrity bubble.
No, I'm not even in a Jason, too.
Oh God, no, I didn't mean either of you.
Oh God, no.
Oh, no, no, no. Oh, please. Oh, how embarrassing. Oh, I'm not even a Jason. Oh God, no, I didn't mean either of you. Oh God, no. Oh, no, no, no.
Oh, please.
Oh, how embarrassing.
Oh, I'm covering my mouth.
I'm laughing.
Because I mean, we don't even do a podcast
with a celebrity, so how would we do it?
Oh, snap, snappity dappity ouchy wouchy.
I'm looking it up.
This death stare.
I'm looking it up.
I am looking it up.
Yes, I am a celebrity. I just looked it up. This death stare. I'm looking it up. I am looking it up. Yes, I am a celebrity.
I just looked it up.
You Googled it?
Yeah, I am a B-lister, but I am a celebrity.
So, okay.
Okay.
I am a solid B.
I'm a solid B-list celebrity and I'm proud of it.
And if Love Boat were still on the air,
I could potentially be a guest.
Oh, God.
Not the first guest, but like the third guest,
who's the comic relief guest who stowed away.
I would kill to see you on Love Boat.
Yes.
And, but anyway, this is something I wanna do
and I'm really looking forward to it.
And I don't know, we're just gonna give it a try
and see how it goes.
Yeah, this is Conan O'Brien Needs a Fan
and it'll be out weekly in addition to the regular episode.
So just an extra special treat.
And we might as well get to our first guest.
Are you guys ready?
Yeah. I am very ready.
Conan, please meet Donovan
who is a minor league professional wrestler.
Wow, Donovan, very nice to talk to you.
Where are you coming from, Donovan?
Where are you? I am Donovan? Where are you?
I am in Michigan right now from Montreal.
Do you consider yourself a Canadian?
No, no, I'm from Michigan.
Oh, you're from Michigan?
Yeah, sorry, I probably said that wrong.
My wife is from Montreal.
Wait, I'm confused already.
You're from Michigan.
You've married someone who's from Montreal.
Yes, exactly.
Okay.
So I'm in the process of getting my permanent residency there. Oh, okay, you're going who's from Montreal. Yes, exactly. Okay. So I'm in the process of getting
my permanent residency there.
Oh, okay. You're going to move to Montreal.
I'm going, yes.
Okay.
Well, that's all the time we have.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So, Donovan, you are a professional wrestler.
Is that right?
Yes.
Okay. Now help me, because I know of a type
of professional wrestler that has a character.
And I don't know, are you a professional wrestler
who's really wrestling and using wrestling moves
and it's not that fun to watch?
Or are you a wrestler who's also kind of a performer
and has a character?
I am a character.
Actually, I have a picture if you want to see it.
It's a-
Oh my God.
Okay, well we are a podcast, so I'm gonna describe it.
Yeah.
You're sort of demonic looking.
You just showed me a picture of what looked like
a very fierce, evil, demonic wrestler.
Yes, so I go by the moniker very nice, very evil,
because nobody likes somebody who's too evil.
So I introduced the nice part of it,
so then they buy into it and I can trick them.
Okay, very nice, very evil.
Often I get described if somebody,
a demon possessed you actually.
Oh, a demon possessed me?
If Conan O'Brien was possessed by a demon,
that's what it gets described as.
Cause I'm heavily influenced by you
rather than other wrestlers.
Yes.
You mean of the wrestlers,
I'm the one that's influenced you the most.
Yes, yes, of course.
That's fantastic.
Describe then a demonic Conan O'Brien
as a wrestling character.
What, what are you using some of my moves?
Is it my attitude?
Does your character have, you know,
sort of little beady eyes and thin lips
and sharp cheekbones?
Yes, yeah, I don't have the height,
but I have, I utilize, so I pour teeth
in my opponent's mouth to disorient them.
Pour what in their mouth?
Teeth, human teeth.
You pour human teeth into the mouth?
That's amazing.
I love how that's, people see that and go,
oh, that is so Conan.
That is.
No, no, no.
It's just, I think it's the presentation
cause I include, I take a lot of like Simpson's references
and references from you and just 80s horror movies
and I pull it all together.
Cause these are the things that I like.
So I included it into the character
because wrestling should be fun.
Yes, wrestling.
It shouldn't be work.
Yeah. No, no. Yes, wrestling. It shouldn't be work.
No, no.
So, okay.
One of your standard moves is to pour loose teeth
into the mouth of your opponent
to confuse and disorient them.
What are some of your other moves?
Kick him right in the mouth.
I have the go to sleep,
which I call the good night housing.
I had housing.
My wrestling name is Dan housing and I had housing, my wrestling name is Dan housing
and I had housing to everything to make it all about me.
That's very Coney.
Okay, that's very nice, Matt.
Yeah, I love that you just add a housing to things.
So it's so good night housing is like a good night move.
Yes, and I pop them up off my shoulders
and I need them in the face.
That's my finishing.
Well, you need them in the face housing.
The face, yes, exactly.
Sorry. Like if I were talking to you finishing. Well, you need them in the face housing. The face, yes, exactly. Sorry.
Like if I were talking to you, I'd call you Conan housing.
I had housing to the end of it.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
This is fantastic.
You're, I'm delighted by you.
You're, I'm delighted by this foolishness
and that you've like me dedicated your life to
absolute idiocy.
This is fantastic.
Now, are you a good wrestler or are you a good athlete?
Yeah, but that doesn't matter.
No one cared when I was just a good wrestler.
They cared once I switched and put on makeup
and started acting goofy and doing Simpsons references
in the middle of matches.
And like I stole the Mr. Burns hop in.
I brought a tiny airplane to the ring and I told my opponent to hop in
and I had three, 400 people chanting hop in at this guy.
How successful have you been?
It sounds like, is this growing?
Do you feel like Dan Howzen is becoming
a bigger and bigger character?
Yes, absolutely.
Since I've switched this, which is about two years ago and about a year full of doing this actual character,
I've been wrestling for eight years.
When, since I've switched this,
it's just like snowballed more and more and more.
And now I have a shirt and hot topic
and I've gotten signed to like a TV company.
And they're just like, go do your weird stuff.
Like do it.
Have fun, be Dan Howson.
That's what we need.
I want to be a, be Dan Howzen.
That's what we need.
I wanna be a part of Dan Howzen's world, you know?
Don't you see that, Matt?
Yes.
Like I wanna maybe do some sort of,
I wanna tape a video.
I seriously wanna do something where you're in the ring
and then I appear and I'm either for you or against you.
Do you know what I mean?
Or you're my long lost son.
We've gotta somehow get into,
I want to get into the lore of Danhausen.
Do you know what I mean?
I want to be part of it.
What would you do with me?
Oh, with you, I would call us both legendary late-nighters.
Go on.
Because-
Guess what?
There's a lot of those now.
There's literally like 600 in America.
So he might want to come up with something cooler.
This character is all about himself.
He's all about making sacks of money.
I call them.
Yes.
I carry around a money sack.
I pulled it out after I won my contract on TV
and I revealed it from my cape.
I pulled a $20 bill and I said,
look at these millions and they threw it.
Would we actually fight?
And first of all, you know, I know how to handle myself.
Wait a minute.
Oh, come on, Soda.
Wait a minute.
I'm fairly athletic.
I can take a punch and I love to fake fight.
And so if I entered the ring,
would we start out being friends?
But then I would think that you had gotten too cocky and I would attack Dan Howson, what would happen? I love to fake fight. And so if I entered the ring, would we start out being friends?
But then I would think that you had gotten too cocky
and I would attack Danhausen.
What would happen?
Maybe I think I do this thing
where I try to punch people in the groin
right before the bell rings.
So I can just pin them without doing any work.
So I don't think I would do that
because people know that I love Conan.
Like as a character, it's very public that I love Conan.
And that's one of Dan Housen's idols.
So I don't think they would think that
they'd probably be taken back if you did it.
Okay, how about this?
Let me pitch you this, cause I'm really into this.
All right, so Dan Housen, you're fighting your foe.
He starts to get the better of you.
He starts to win.
He grabs the bag of teeth
and starts to pour them into your mouth.
He steals your sack of money.
He punches you in the groin.
It's all going badly when all of a sudden
the music changes, fog machines go on,
and I appear, I come down on wires,
and it's me and I'm there to save Danhausen.
And-
I think the crowd would go nuts.
I hope so.
What if the crowd just like, all right, okay,
here's Conan, I guess. Let's see what he's like, all right, okay. Here's Conan, I guess.
Let's see what he's got.
All right, let's go.
If we go early, we can beat the traffic.
In my mind before I go on, that's what I think.
That's the reaction I always think I'm gonna get.
If I leave now, I can beat the traffic.
I want in on the Dan Howson world.
I really do, Donovan.
Yeah, well, I would love that if that's a possibility.
That's like the ultimate guest
for Good Night, Howzen with Dan Howzen.
You know what?
I've always said, if there's a way that I can be involved
with Good Night, Howzen with Dan Howzen,
I want in Howzen and right now Howzen.
Not tomorrow Howzen, but today Howzen.
I'm not fucking around housing.
I'm serious housing.
So let's make this happen housing.
Let's sign a contract housing.
I want to get paid housing.
Yes, we'll pay you in a wonderful sacks of human money.
There's only one kind of money.
There's only human money.
No animal uses money.
He has no idea.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
He just knows it gets you power.
Yeah, wow.
That's very exciting.
Well, you know what?
I think you're gonna do well.
I love that you're going to Canada
because I don't say this just to suck up to Canada,
but I love Canadians.
And I think they're like the funniest,
one of the funniest countries in the world.
They're really funny people.
So I think, and they really love nuanced,
like weird, kooky comedy,
and they've always been so nice to me.
So I love that you're going to Montreal.
I think that's great.
Thank you.
Yeah, it's been exciting and a lot of work.
Donovan, you have my blessing.
And I will figure out a way to enter your,
the world of Danhausen.
I will.
Please do.
I would lose my mind and so would my fans.
I, it'd be crazy. All right. Well, Sona, I would lose my mind and so would my fans.
It'd be crazy.
All right, well, Sona, you make sure,
you'll follow up on this. Oh, I will follow up on this.
Yes, we'll follow up on this.
I'm really excited about it. I will follow up on this.
Yes.
Thank you. All right.
Thank you for doing this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem.
Hey, really nice to meet you, Donovan.
Nice meeting you too.
Nice meeting all of you. Nice meeting you.
All right, bye-bye. Thanks, Donovan.
Thanks, Donovan.
Lianne, please meet Conan O'Brien.
Oh my gosh, I'm so excited.
Well, I'm very excited to talk to you, Leanne.
Yeah.
Leanne, tell me just a little bit about yourself,
just so I, when I meet someone for the first time,
I like to ask just a few questions,
find out who they are, where they're coming from.
Yeah, for sure. And I'm from Toronto. And I'm actually I'm an engineer. So I went to school,
I did engineering in school, and I'm a mechanical engineer. And I love to ski, I love to bike. I
know you like to bike too. I listened to your talk about biking recently and your trip to Mexico.
So that's kind of me. I like outdoorsy kind of stuff and I like having fun
and hanging out with my friends and a good laugh.
You like a good laugh?
Yeah.
A good laugh is good.
Yeah.
And I listen to your podcast all the time.
I think I've listened to every episode at least once.
So I'm a huge fan of your podcast.
Do you get a sense of maybe any mental illness
when you listen to the podcast?
Oh my God, but why is that your first question?
May or may not, but.
Okay, well, I was just wondering if, you know,
you're obviously a very intelligent person.
You're an engineer.
What kind of engineering do you do?
So I did chemical and chemistry in school,
but now I'm doing mechanical engineering.
But you understand chemistry.
You understand chemical engineering.
Yeah.
And have you ever, when you're listening to the podcast,
thought, this guy, I think we need to regulate his brain.
His brain needs some sort of chemical regulation.
A couple of times, but it's okay.
You get asked on the podcast, so.
So what you're saying is,
what adds to the podcast is my mental illness.
That's true.
Also, my mom's in the background laughing her head off, so.
That's okay.
It's always good to have a mother in the background
laughing at me.
It adds to the whole podcast experience.
Me too.
There she is.
Oh, and look, she's shooting this on her iPhone,
which is piracy.
That's piracy.
I'm gonna have her arrested for stealing our copyright.
So.
That'll come later.
We fled the country because of that reason.
So you're too late on that.
So you fled, you fled to north of Toronto,
just because you wanted your mom to record you talking
to me on the podcast on her iPhone.
That's right.
And you wanted to escape any attempt
for me to seek retribution.
That's right.
You thought this through so far in advance.
You're so smart.
Yeah, we have.
It was a big move, but you know what?
It's worth it, so.
We're nice people, Cone, and we're Canadians.
Oh, yeah, sure.
Oh yeah, I've met some of-
Nowhere American, cause we're a budget country.
Oh, that's right.
Good improv skills.
You picked up on your mom's mistake.
Yeah.
Mom, good improv.
Cut it out.
She put out the information,
Leanne put out the information that you fled to Canada.
So you can't ruin her improv by denying her information.
Oh God, moms, they always ruin improv.
They always ruin improv.
But I was gonna say too, I know your mom had,
I love when you talk about your mom on the podcast.
It's hilarious.
And how her dryness always kind of sparked your comedy.
It sounds pretty good.
Yes.
I listened to a most recent episode
and you were saying how she always thought
you were pretty crazy, but.
Well, she always, she would say,
my mom's line is, I don't like that even fooling. I love that. And she had a good sense of humor, she always, she would say, my mom's line is, I don't like that even fooling.
I love that.
And she had a good sense of humor, but yeah,
she was always saying that to me.
And I think that spurred me to go further
and further and further.
She's a great straight man in comedy.
So that helped me.
And I hope your mother's helping you
in your comedy pursuits.
Yes, she is.
Mine are more domestic, but that's okay.
Yes, I understand.
Your mom helped you so much with your comedy
that you're an engineer.
So that's all I have to say to you about your mother.
It's her fault.
You'd be playing Vegas right now.
You'd be in the biggest rooms in Vegas.
I was.
Oh no, your mom had to get in there and go,
that's not true.
Yeah.
You're from Toronto.
Yeah, it's true. I love, I do love Canada.
I've had a very good time.
I love myself a Tim Hortons.
Yeah.
I love a Tim Hortons donut and a cup of coffee.
You'd blend right in a double, double.
Wouldn't I?
Yeah.
Oh, a double, double.
And then I get on the hockey rink
and I beat someone to death.
It's a good time.
Yeah.
I really enjoy myself.
She just got off the ski hill.
What?
What is she saying now?
She's just, she's just.
Did your mother just spout things in the corner
throughout your life?
She said, I just got off the ski hill.
That's what she's saying.
Snow skiing, I think you called it,
in a bit, a long time ago on,
I don't know where you were, but it looked pretty good.
It was the Olympics.
You were pretty talented.
It was the 2002 Olympics. And I learned how to snowboard.
And I'm still recovering from that.
Yeah.
I lost most of my spine had to be replaced with a coat hack.
Yeah, and you're still tall.
I'm here now.
And so that's good.
And what I'd like to do, Leanna, if it's okay,
is I'd like to tape an episode of my show sometime
where your mother's in a little inset box
randomly saying things while I'm trying to do the show.
That would be great.
So I'm trying to talk to Hugh Jackman
and she's saying things like, I was on the snow hill.
I'll just be chow chow chow chow.
My favorite chowder is corn chowder.
And it just randomly, okay, our next guest was in the fly.
You know him as Jeff Goldblum, but you know,
onions are best on a sandwich.
Okay, mom, we got it.
But how can I help you, Leanna?
I know you have a question for me
and I know I can help you.
Yeah, I just wanted to ask you,
because I was gonna say like,
so I've listened to the podcast so many times
and I noticed that you're always just yourself
no matter kind of what anyone's saying.
And I really liked that even sometimes
it might come off as mental illness,
but you continue to do it.
And I think that's really cool.
So I wanted to ask.
I really like you.
It comes off as mental illness sometimes, but I like it.
Yeah, but I just wanted to ask you
if there was any time that you had to pretend
that you weren't showing any sign of mental illness.
And you had to stray from being yourself.
And I just wanted to ask you like,
how you deal with that kind of thing?
I am mostly myself when I perform
or show myself to the public,
but Sona and Gorla, you will back me up.
I can be weirder than even what people have seen
or heard on the podcast.
The podcast probably catches it the most,
but I go on these riffs sometimes
that they start out making sense
and then they get more and more twisted and strange
and they're just not for public consumption.
Isn't that true, Sona?
Yeah, I think that you would be arrested
if a lot of the things that you said were released.
What are you talking about?
Well, because-
Well, she's asking if you ever turn your mental illness off,
but it's actually much more amplified a lot of times.
Can we just start calling it my gift
and not my mental illness? Sorry, I know.
I'm just using what Leanne said.
Yes, your- Oh, thank, okay.
Your gift, okay, I know. I'm just using what Leanne said. Yes, you're- Oh, thank, okay. You're a gift, okay.
You're a gift.
Yeah, Leanne, you're getting the sanest version of me.
I know. You're getting the most
gifted version of me. I can only imagine.
I am constantly talking and babbling.
Yes.
I say a lot of words that don't make sense.
I have microaggressions.
And macroaggressions.
And macroaggressions, And macroaggressions,
but none of it's really based in reality.
Like I'm constantly threatening you, Mr. Gourley,
but I'm not even angry with you.
It's just like I have no anger towards Matt Gourley at all.
I think it comes from a good place too.
I do too.
I think my desire to kill and kill again
comes from a good place.
I think so.
Me too, I think you nailed it.
I think, yes.
Has there been a time where I've needed to hide?
Yes, there are times where my mind goes
probably to a darker place and I edit myself.
How about that?
That's very true.
Sounds good.
But I love how you're always,
it just seems like you're always yourself.
And same with Matt and Sona,
and that really shines through in the podcast.
And that's really cool. I would say that's very sweet. I would say Sona, and that really shines through in the podcast. And that's really cool.
I would say that's very sweet.
I would say Sona is very much herself.
I don't know who the real Matt is.
So I don't know if I can say-
I don't either.
I don't know.
Like you're a shape-shifter, Gourley.
You could be, I just don't know.
You could be someone completely different.
It's like that movie, The Stepfather.
I just don't know.
You could be a complete maniac and I wouldn't know it.
Matt's like Switzerland. I am like Switzerland. Yeah, and I wouldn't know it. Matt's like Switzerland.
I am like Switzerland.
Yeah, sticks in the middle.
Yeah, he's like Switzerland, rarely visited.
That's hilarious.
A man and I just went to Switzerland.
Did you?
Yes, we did, specifically and only Switzerland.
Oh my God.
Isn't that just ridiculous?
I'm with you, I'm a mess.
You're not a mess.
Yeah.
You're good friends.
And they, you know what?
It really does help to do this.
I, what the damn it.
That was the most robotic.
Were you talking about Sona and me
or am I good friends with myself?
That's actually, that's actually,
I created that sound bite with my computer.
If you listen to it, again, carefully,
all I did was press control D
and it just was like,
we are good friends.
You're good friends.
Good, good, good, good, good, good friends.
I enjoy.
And then Control Alt J is, I enjoy people.
I am a human.
Control Alt W is, I love children.
When my wife and I visit her family with our kids,
we stay in this hotel in Seattle
and there's one of those elevators that has a voice,
a robotic voice that's telling you
what floor you're going to.
With this accent we can't place,
but when you get in the elevator on the fifth floor
and you're going to the lobby,
this woman's voice says, going down.
And it burned into my brain.
And whenever I'm in an elevator
and it starts to go down,
I hear in my brain,
going down.
It's very, I find it very disturbing.
And I'm glad I shared it with you.
I think your mom's trying to get in on the act again.
Is that your mom who just walked behind you?
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is.
She's incorrigible.
She can't be stopped.
She can't.
She can't.
She's fierce.
Also, that's an awesome guitar.
Is that a Gretsch behind you?
Yes, it is.
Do you know your Gretsch guitars?
Yeah, I want one.
I don't have one, but I love to play guitar.
That's another thing I love about you.
I love to watch you play.
Like I've seen a few videos of you playing
and it's just so fun.
Cause it's just, you're up there
and it looks like you love it.
And I love to play guitar.
I love it.
I really love playing with Jimmy Vino
and guys from my band.
And we've put out a couple of videos
and I was really proud of it until someone said,
great Viagra ad.
Ooh.
And it was like, yeah, like, look at the older guy
bopping out with his guitar, Viagra.
Don't, you know, and I, that was a torpedo
that just blew me apart.
I just, I think I almost burned my guitar that night.
It's like, I'll never play this again.
But yeah, maybe the good news is
I'll probably get an ad for Viagra.
So that'll be good.
Congratulations.
Well, it's been very nice talking to you.
Leanne, I've loved talking to you and occasionally your mom.
Tell her I said, is your mom still there?
She is, she's right there.
Hi Conan.
Okay, I'm coming after you.
What's your first name?
My name's Carol.
Carol, I'm coming after you.
You've been taping this call illegally.
I'm coming after you.
I will use the Canadian courts to bring you down.
I'll have bike to Mexico by then, so.
It'll be tough.
It'll be tough.
You guys are taunting me.
Like come and get me.
Oh, oh man.
I'm going after this family.
Hey, lovely talking to you.
You too.
Thank you so much.
Thanks Leanne. No problem.
Bye-bye Leanne.
Take care. Bye.
Bye.
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