Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Jeff Goldblum Returns (Re-Release)
Episode Date: January 13, 2025Re-release. Originally aired 6/5/2022. Please consider supporting those affected by the wildfires in Southern California. Jeff Goldblum feels utterly drenched and purged about being Conan O’Brien�...�s friend. Jeff and Conan sit down once again to discuss Jeff’s mysterious dreams, jazz musicianship, the movie theater experiences that blew them away, and reprising the role of Dr. Ian Malcolm in the upcoming Jurassic World: Dominion. For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com.Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: (669) 587-2847. Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/conan.
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Watch this. Hello. My name is Jeff Goldblum G-O-L-D-B-L-U-N.
And I'm reading for some of the first, oh yes, first name, I did it, first name, last name.
It's kind of the empty something, yeah, and then pause, here comes. That's enough of that.
And I feel, and then it says here, parentheses, however I feel,
well...
Madness!
Madness, madness. Hey, that's the last line of what movie? This is the last line of movie.
Madness, madness. Tell me the movie.
Oh my god, I know that movie. Is it an older movie?
Yes.
Wait a minute.
I can give you a clue.
Madness, wait a minute.
Is it, hold it.
Madness.
Is it Apocalypse Now?
No.
No, that's the horror.
The horror.
You're close though.
And it has a similar.
Oh wait, it's The Last Family Ties. You're way off. No, and it has a similar. Oh wait. It's the last family ties
No, it does it ends with madness
I love that this is the introduction to the show
We have to wrap up what this movie is and then do the name thing all is one giant piece
We're still rolling. Yeah, we're still rolling. But really yeah, this has been real. You can't use this is no weekend
But give us a hint on that movie.
Okay, I'll give you a hint.
A lesser cast member, Jack Hawkins.
Probably don't even know who that is.
Oh my, what kind of clue is that?
Okay, set, set, set. A ceramic mug
features in a breakfast scene.
There's a clue for you. No, no, Jack Hawkins,
there are those who know very well, Jack Hawkins,
and already know this movie.
I'll give you a giveaway clue. Bill Holden. William Holden. Oh.
Starlike 17? No. Good. No. Pretty good guess. It's kind of a war picture. He does not
deliver the last line by the way. Oh Bridge Over the River Kwai. Exactly.
Just as he blows up the bridge. Yes. Exactly. Now, all together, let's whistle the song that is right.
Ready?
Whistle
No, wait, that's the wrong one.
Whistle
Okay.
Whistle
Whistle
Whistle
That's it.
I can't whistle and I don't know that.
You cannot whistle?
I can't whistle and I-
Is that true?
I've never seen this movie.
When I was a kid in camp,
we used to, they taught us these old songs from the 50s
as we trudged up the Appalachian mountains
and we had to sing comet.
It makes your teeth turn green, comet.
It tastes like Vaseline, comet.
Make you vomit, so drink your comet and vomit today.
And then it'd be like, again!
And we would do it again
and I climbed the presidential mountain ranges
singing that song, not knowing what it was how it
Why why just because and then you learned later that it was from that movie. Yeah, that's funny. That's funny
Hey, do you know this song you reminded me of the uh song? Uh, we're on the upward trail
We're on the upward trail singing singing everybody singing as we go that would have been a more legit
Version of the marching song.
Yes, I suppose.
Now, where does that song come from?
Because you've confused us once again.
And also, how do you feel about being Conan O'Brien's man?
Yeah, hi, my name's...
Just for God's sake.
My name is Jeff Goldblum, and I feel
being here with you now as if I'm revealing myself
to myself and...
And...
And...
And... And... And... And... I feel utterly drenched myself to myself and
And I feel utterly drenched and purged
Okay
Now that's from a kind of a an homage to a movie line also that's not my originality and my
When you turn my podcast into a kooky trivia show? I love it.
That's what you've done.
I love it.
["Fall Is Here"]
I can tell that we are gonna be friends.
I can tell that we are gonna be friends. Alright, testing, testing, one, two, three,
testing, testing, bumblebee, testing, testing,
all day long we sing the testing, testing song.
Three, two, one.
Why can't you do anything normally?
I don't know.
Why can't anything just be normal?
I don't know, ask Michelangelo.
Here we go.
Three, two, three.
There it is.
The Ninja Turtle.
Yeah, that's who I meant. The best of the Ninja Turtles. Three, two, one. No, Don. Yeah, that's who I meant.
The best of the Ninja Turtles.
Three, two, one.
No, Donatello big time.
I'm a Leonardo guy.
Are you?
And action.
Hey there, welcome to Conan O'Brien needs a friend.
The podcast that gives and gives
until it can't give no more.
What's it giving?
I don't know.
What are we giving?
I think it's spreading disease.
We should stop.
It's spreading disease.
This is a fantastic episode.
I never say that upfront, but we know for a fact,
because we bring to you today the amazing Jeff Goldblum,
a force of nature, a star.
And I don't mean a star in the sense of a Hollywood star.
He certainly is that, but he is a celestial event,
in my opinion. He really is, yeah.
He really is.
So this interview that we have,
I'm told, Matt, that you barely touch this one.
Sometimes you do little edits and tweaks.
I do.
Occasionally a guest will be on
and they start to go into very inappropriate rant
and we have to take it out.
Occasionally there's repeated stories or something
through just natural conversation that I'll pull out. You're not missing anything as a listener from the things I'm pulling out. Occasionally there's repeated stories or something through just natural conversation that I'll pull out.
You're not missing anything as a listener
from the things I'm pulling out.
But this one, it couldn't have any editing
because it's music, it's a symphony.
And I also always take out little mouth noises and clicks,
but Jeff Goldblum has this repeating feline slurp.
And it was, it's just, I couldn't touch it.
It would be like going, like you said,
going to Michelangelo and editing his Sistine Chapel.
Yeah, well again, so not Michelangelo,
the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle.
No, I still mean him.
Okay.
And he was a wonderful painter.
Because he also worked on the Sistine Chapel.
Yeah.
So it must be tough technically to edit a man
who's constantly making low purring sounds.
You can't do it.
Because how do you, you can't do an edit.
I speak and then I stop and there's nothing.
But Jeff Goldblum, even when he's not speaking,
mmm.
Well, you can do a crossfade
and you can blend one sexual grumble into the next,
but I would never do that.
Like who am I to censor his sexual rumblings,
his subsonic sexual rumblings?
Yeah, yeah.
I love that you called it first of all sexual grumbling,
which made it sound like a grumpy guy
who's in a sexual mood, you know?
I don't even know how that sounds like.
Oh yeah, I'd like to do it with somebody right now. These kids today. I didn't have know how that sounds. It's like, oh yeah, I'd like to do it with somebody right now.
Kids today.
I didn't have so much to do.
I have to do the yard first,
but I'd still like to do it with someone.
I don't know what that means, but I'm,
yeah, there's not much to say when you have Jeff Goldblum
and you've managed to capture a Jeff Goldblum in the wild
and you get it to talk.
It's an event, it's a real event.
And to that point, this introduction is about the interview.
The interview itself is something like,
I think 70 minutes long.
And we do a segment at the end of this episode
where we just talk about how wonderful that interview was.
So this is an all Goldblum episode.
Yeah, and you know what?
When I say all Goldblum, I don't hear one complaint.
No.
No one's gonna stop me on the street
and say that was too much Goldblum.
No.
And set your filters, your Goldblum filters to high
because you wanna get all the Goldblum
as it comes to it.
Yeah.
Was it 70 minutes just the part where he goes,
is my name is Jeff Goldblum and I'm,
and I feel like that alone was like 45 minutes.
So the listeners will have already heard that moment.
Yeah.
And that was, I think, three minutes and 46 seconds
for him to say, hi, my name is Jeff Goldblum.
And ultimately I feel, I think he said drenched,
something like-
Who knows?
Drained and drenched.
All I know is that once it was over,
I had no memory of what had happened.
I knew that I had, you know, had an orgasmic high,
but I didn't know what happened.
And I think I put it out to the listeners,
listen to this Jeff Goldblum interview.
And afterwards, I doubt anyone's gonna know what was said.
I don't, you guys said so many names of shows
and so many actors I had never heard of.
And all three of you were like,
oh my God, that guy was the best.
Like it was just like constant splooge-ing
over like 70s obscure shows.
Okay, come on.
You were just doing a whole sex thing about grumblings.
A grumpy sexual guy.
And you're telling me to clean it up because I said splooge?
I didn't say splooge, I didn't talk about-
You guys did all the whole interview.
It's true, I mean she's just saying the facts.
It's true, we did.
Can you change that to squeegee in an edit?
No.
So it just becomes squeegee?
You guys were just squeegeeing each other.
That to me feels erotic.
I didn't say each other, I said, every time someone would say,
oh yeah, do you remember this one actor
who was in one show for three episodes?
You were like, oh my God, that guy was the best guy
I've ever heard of in my life.
That's what I just remember.
Who's splooging around you that talks that way?
I've never, that's not what it's,
that didn't at all sound like a guy
who was about to ejaculate.
That in no way, your guy who was about to ejaculate's like,
yeah, so anyway, I'm gonna go get a sandwich and,
ah, ah!
Oh my god, I just came.
Who the fuck is that guy?
You've been hanging out with Bruno the Scrooge or what?
Yeah.
He just has orgasms when he least expects it.
Anyway, so I think what we're gonna do
is get a guy in here to rivet the beam.
You need a good riveter, because the rivets have to be hot too because they gotta go into the eye
Some people have narcolepsy I got sploogalipsy
This year I think the Mets are gonna go all the way I'll tell you what it is
It's infielding if you can keep the ball in the infield,
ah, fuck!
Ah, fuck!
Oh, I had to take my earphones off.
Oh, fuck, I was talking about infielding.
I thought I was safe.
Ew, Jesus.
I love this guy.
This guy, Bruno the Splooge.
You're listening to Bruno the Splooge on KXW9.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh, all right.
All right.
Well, anyway.
On that note.
Let's do this.
Let's do this thing.
Strap yourselves in.
My guest today is an actor who has starred in such movies
as Jurassic Park, Independence Day, and Thor, Ragnarok.
Now he's reprising his role as Dr. Ian Malcolm
in the highly anticipated movie,
Jurassic World Dominion.
I, to say I'm excited is insane,
because it's beyond that.
Delighted, excited, orgasmic.
To chat with him today, Jeff Goldblum, welcome.
Lord, I have to tell you, this is the inaugural podcast in our new studio with a genuine celebrity.
We did a little messing around and testing beforehand, but you-
Genuine.
Genuine.
You know that pronunciation.
That's who I say it.
You did Music Man at one point, didn't you?
Oh, I wish I had.
I know you did.
Genuine.
I know you did.
Trumpet. Yes, well, you know very well,
you were in that movie.
So listen, I must tell you that I can't think
of a better person to start this off with than you.
You know that you and I have something,
a certain frisson, admit it, admit it, we have something.
Yes, yes we do.
No, and I will- A frisson,
you know what that means.
I don't.
I think it's French and it means
we're in constant
culmination. The way you're moving.
You're moving like a lascivious snake.
Yes.
Bring it out.
No, you are, I've interviewed you many times.
You're one of my favorite people to talk to
because you have an animalistic quality.
Yes, and I mean that in the nicest way. Which animal? Well, I don't know. You have an animalistic quality.
Yes, and I mean that in the nicest way. Which animal?
Well, I don't know.
It would be a reptile, I believe.
A panther?
I think a panther.
No, no, no, no, no.
Because it has a long, darting tongue.
I know that he can hit a fly at great lengths.
You are a combination of animals.
You are a panther, but you are also a lizard.
Of course, the fly, we must add the fly in there.
Yes, yes.
You just reminded me, I had, do you remember your dreams?
I had a dream last night, I wrote down some of it,
but I didn't remember until just this moment,
this thing about the tongue, somebody last night
in my dream had a tongue that was very, very long
and it came out completely, it, They, he, I don't forget.
The tongue detached from the mouth completely?
It detached, it was a detachable long tongue, yes.
You know, apropos of nothing.
Well, first of all.
Of interest to nobody, but you just, but that's true.
And I have, I forgot there, what the hell am I doing with that?
The, yes, yes, I wrote these down madly as I,
before I forgot in this morning.
Is that your dream? This is your dream.
Yes, some of my dreams.
Okay, let me pause for a minute.
Ladies and gentlemen, Jeff Goldblum, esteemed actor,
is about to, he's relayed a dream that he had last night,
and I can see that he's written it down,
it looks like in Hebrew.
I don't understand, your handwriting is very bizarre.
Wow. Do you speak Hebrew?
It's very strange.
Yeah, yeah, it is, you can't read that.
My dad was a doctor like your dad was.
Yeah, it's like Sanskrit.
It's crazy.
I inherited his thing.
No, but that's what I wrote down.
That's right.
Should we hear it?
Yeah, should we hear the dream?
Yeah, you can.
But I did just remember that, no kidding, that tongue part of it.
That was also last night.
There's nothing funny about these these but it may open a portal
into our subconscious, all of us. So Robert Altman, you remember him?
Yeah, the great director Robert Altman. I worked with him a few times.
Name dropper? Well, I know. In any case, he appeared in my dream. We were kind of in a
hospital situation or something and he appeared all of a sudden,
to my astonishment and delight, alive.
He's now dead, lo, these several years.
But he was alive, young and radiant with his,
I think they were his sons,
and they were kind of sneaking him in and out of this thing,
and I said, look at you, because he'd, I guess,
I attuited right, I inferred right away,
he had faked his death for some reason.
He seemed sly and delighted, and it was now our secret.
And he said, yes, be prepared for me to stay at your house.
Something like that, and then they left.
That was the dream.
That was one sequence, that's that sequence.
The second sequence was, listen to this,
I was in some kind of strange but heavy equipment pod
that was delivering us up a mountain,
the outside to view the mountain, and it was the Alps.
I think it was the Alps of some kind, the Swiss Alps.
You're in some kind of craft viewing the Alps.
Yes, and each of us in a separate pod. My wife Emily was the Alps of some kind. The Swiss Alps. You're in some kind of craft viewing the Alps.
Yes.
And each of us in a separate pod.
My wife Emily was in a pod a little bit away from me and we were all experiencing this
separately.
But we could see a wonderful view of these mountains as they got higher and higher.
And it was like the highest peak on earth.
As we got further, we saw these old castles kind of, you know, places.
And that was amazing and wonderful. Then we got higher and higher until finally it kind of, you know, places. And that was amazing and wonderful.
Then we got higher and higher until finally it kind of leveled
out and we knew we were at the top of the world.
And then, and it was amazing and everybody was kind of,
oh, you know, in awe.
And then before it started down the other side,
like a roller coaster, we were like that.
And then it started and it was a harrowing, you know,
ride that seemed like that. Then it started and it was a harrowing ride
that seemed like that.
I kind of retreated inside an inner compartment in this pod
in kind of a bathroom and then I said, I'm missing it.
I thought to myself, I'm missing it.
So I went back up and kind of got some of it.
That was it.
And then it was over.
We all, I missed my wife, I missed the group
and I seemed to be by myself left behind somehow.
Couldn't find them.
So I was like left behind.
That's the second part of the dream.
Okay.
Kind of.
Yes, let me say quickly,
Freud had this theory that dreams have meaning.
And we now know that Freud was wrong.
That has no meaning.
This is insanity.
There's no, there's nothing that open no portal.
There's nothing there.
Robert Altman returns from the dead
and wants to stay at your home and he's being sneaky
and you're in a hospital.
Then you're in a pod, you're observing the Alps.
You go up one side and down the other
after spending a brief interval in the bathroom.
What's the last one?
The last one, this may make sense of the whole thing.
I was doing kind of a talk show or a podcast of some kind.
It's not curious to think that I was already.
Some kind, I guess there are so many.
Thinking.
None would come to the mind of a Jeff Goldblum.
None like this.
This is uniquely tippity-toppity.
That's how it relates to the second one.
This is the crest, this is the summit of podcastery.
Thank you, podcastery.
There it is.
We are the summit of podcastery, sir.
But I was going to perform in some way, or being asked to perform. I wasn't kind of prepared
or happy about it. And then the woman producer laid on me some things that I wasn't prepared
for. She said, oh yeah, you're gonna be talking to Diane
Keaton and Ron Howard and we're gonna try to get you to get him to dance. And I said
nothing's right. The microphone isn't right. I have the pen. I have nothing. There's nothing
right. And how long am I gonna do this? I said, didn't know. She said, oh, another couple
hours. Well, that's altogether, that's five hours? That's two. So this is like a steady
job. This is like a full-time job, right? Yeah, yeah like a full time job right yeah well okay I was not happy about it well I'll tell you what
so you had a dream the night before coming here yeah about doing a long
podcast yeah with a red-haired celebrity Ron Howard and Diane Keaton
aka Sonam of Sassian oh yes yes and, yes. What a guy. And then finally, I said, there was a guy with great big bushy eyebrows.
Let's see if I'm prescient at all.
No, no.
Must be me.
I mean, I trim them,
but they could comb into my hairline if I needed them to.
No kidding.
Well, he was back.
And I said, what's your name?
Yes, well, I want to learn everybody's name first and last.
He said, last.
He was kind of taken aback by that.
And then I said, yes.
And there was a big crew around.
And I said, yes, I think I should learn everybody's name.
In fact, I think if it were up to me,
we'd all be wearing name tags.
They seem to be happy about that.
That's about all of that.
That's that drink.
Now, listen.
Wow.
Don't lose that sheet of paper.
Okay.
Okay, we can't have that lost to time.
Okay.
We need to frame that.
Yeah, that is, you know, here's what I'll say about you, Jeff.
I never know what you're going to say.
I never know what you're going to do.
You are feral.
You are a man that runs on instinct.
You don't, and you're very much, I think, attuned.
You should see the faces he's making right now.
You're very much attuned to the universe,
and I feel like you are constantly in the now.
Is this correct?
I aspire to presence, and yes, I'd like to be, yeah, I'd like to be here and now. That would be great,
yeah. Yeah. Yes, and you, that you've made a, you've devoted your life to the technology of
the here and now, I believe. Isn't that also correct? Well, I don't think I have at all. I
don't know what you're talking about. I've... You do so, you won't deny it.
I don't think I have at all. I don't know what you're talking about.
I've...
You do so.
You won't deny it.
Okay.
By the way, here, this...
Let me mention something.
You know, I did...
There is such a thing as...
You go to...
I don't know whether you go to therapists and you've talked about dreams or interested in
dreams, but there's a thing called dream work.
This may be of no interest to you, but there's a thing...
But it occurs to me.
There's a thing called dream work whereby this may not seem like it has any relevance to anything or makes any sense,
but there are those who think, and I did it once with a good teacher, Sandra Seekett,
that Laura Dern turned me on to, whom Laura Dern turned me on to, that you go to bed before
the night of a, before you need an answer to something, you say, dear inner self, you
write a letter, please give me an answer to something
about this character that I'm playing,
or my life, or aspect of this relationship,
and you have a dream, and then you go to this dream coach,
and you go, well, here's what it is, I wrote it down,
doesn't seem to have anything to do with the play,
or, and they go, well, not at first, but how about this?
And they open you up to consider the possibilities
of how your subconscious may be informing your activities
and your questions.
What do you think of that?
My mother-in-law, a lovely woman and very smart woman
is a therapist.
And she- Liza's mom.
Yeah, Liza's mom, and she believes
that all dreams have meaning.
If you have a dream and you tell her,
she starts to pick it apart.
I'm often having dreams that I defy anyone to make sense of
because it just seems like random mush.
It really does.
It's just, and then I realized that most of my life
I'm speaking in random mush.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
So maybe they're related.
Maybe they are related.
Yeah, and you get fertile material in your dream life
or not, I don't know about this.
I'm not advocating for one.
I don't know how I feel about it.
If you tell me dreams are just a kind of a weird
discharge of your nocturnal something.
There are nocturnal discharges.
That's a separate category.
Yes, yes.
Well, there are.
There just frankly are.
I know there are.
What's that?
I just don't think we need to bring them up. No.
No, no, I wasn't gonna bring them up.
I was just gonna say it's a common term,
nocturnal discharge, and I wanted to make sure
that people didn't misunderstand what Jeff was saying,
that you are separating the two.
Right.
Yes, yes, exactly.
And if we were not on air,
and I were more given to the ribald.
Or ribald. Or ribald.
Or ribald.
Oh, I don't know.
What do you think?
Well, he said genuine.
Yeah, genuine.
I'm allowed to, I, as the host of the show,
I'm allowed to make up your own.
Make up the final laws on all pronunciations.
Really?
But please, continue-ay.
Well, I don't know, so, well, my point is
that I'm not gonna continue
into something that whole thing that I just thought of.
I'd love it if you would.
Yeah, yeah, don't be afraid of being reballed.
We are all adults here.
And this is just, and I will say this is a safe space.
Yeah, all right.
Oh, I shouldn't.
Well, you know, yes, yes.
When I was young, you know, 12, 13, I think it happened.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, that's all I'll say.
Well, that seems young is all I'm gonna say.
Really?
Yes, I was 37.
That happened for me for the first time.
Oh, God.
Yes.
Congratulations.
So awkward.
No, no, I was really watching them wrap up Seinfeld
and I just, it happened.
Oh. I'm sorry. That. So awkward. No, no, I was really watching them wrap up Seinfeld and I just, it happened.
Oh.
I'm sorry.
Late bloomer I am.
You know, you have-
You speak like Yoda.
Yeah, I know.
Late bloomer I am.
Late bloomer I am.
Discharge late it came.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm 3,000 years old I was.
Seattle. By the way. I'm 3,000 years old I was. Seattle.
By the way, I'm such big fans of yours.
I've been watching a lot of,
not just for my conscientious research purposes,
but just for my own entertainment.
Often I go to YouTube and see,
I've seen hours and hours and hours of your content.
Foolishness, I like to call it.
Everything.
Oh, that's nice.
I like to think of you out there watching it.
I really am, so I know a lot about you.
You know what I think is something
that makes me very happy is that none of our comedy
was ever really about anything.
No, that's for sure.
So you can see something from 25 years ago,
and it doesn't relate to any specific
topical thing in the news.
And other than the fact that my head hasn't rotted yet
in those clips,
people can laugh at them all over again,
which makes me happy.
Uh oh, you put on your specs.
He's examining your rotting head.
Are you examining my rotting head?
Yeah, yeah, now that you brought it up,
you all look great, you know, just great.
Please, you can tell that this,
I have one of those Irish heads that bloats as it gets older. You've said it, I know. No, this is true, you can tell that this, I have one of those Irish heads that bloats
as it gets older.
You've said it, I know.
No, this is true.
You know, you leave a gourd in the sun long enough.
And then winter comes and you have yourself a Conan.
That's what happens over time.
But you, I will say this, I love talking to you
because you're staring at me and you're examining every-
I like your glasses, I like your glasses.
You know why?
You know why I like-
Last we had a conversation,
I think I introduced you to these-
You did.
This company.
I will admit freely that my style guru,
and my lifestyle guru, is Mr. Jeff Goldblum.
How can it not be?
And I'll tell you why.
He is a tall, good-looking drink of water,
and whenever he's wearing something, I think,
well, wait a minute, we have somewhat similar,
well, hold on.
Okay.
Son is about to really correct me.
Let's say Jeff had been in an accident at some point.
Then Jeff and I would be very similar.
That's all I'm saying.
You guys have very different vibes.
Well, no, I'm not talking about the vibes.
I'm talking just about when he is a tall man
and he knows how to dress.
Right.
And I love so, during commercial breaks,
often, often when he was on the show,
people always wonder, what do you talk about with people?
I can always tell you what I'm talking about with Jeff
in a commercial break.
I go right to, oh my God, those shoes.
And you know, I have large feet and you have large feet. And he's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh my boy. Oh, oh yes God, those shoes. And I have large feet, and you have large feet,
and he was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, my boy, oh, oh, yes, yes, oh.
And then, so I remembered once, you came out,
and you were wearing these wonderful glasses
that you really carried off well,
and I said, I must wear those glasses.
And I asked you, and you acted as if you were telling me
where the secret ring was
that would unlock the universe.
You went, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, yes, yes, Jacques, Jacques Marie, what is it, Le Mage?
Mage.
Jacques Marie Mage, yeah.
Yeah, Jacques Marie Mage.
Oh, and he said, oh, my boy, I'll call ahead, I'll call ahead.
And then you described going downtown,
and there's a secret knock, and a corridor,
and a passageway, and sure enough,
they're the greatest glasses.
Did you go, how'd you get them?
Did you go to see?
I went with Sona.
Sona came with me.
You went to Jerome's, to that studio?
Yes, yes.
Oh yeah, and he, I'm sure he greeted you
and met you and showed you everything.
Oh, he was wonderful.
They were, everybody was wonderful.
Yeah, yeah.
But I mean, I have done this several times.
You once, we were doing something together
that was not my project and not your project.
We were recording something together. I remember the day and not your project. We were recording something together.
I remember the day, I do.
And you walked in and I always couldn't,
I could never find jeans.
I have a very unusual build, I'll say.
And,
Oh, come on.
Anyway, sorry.
What's your inseam?
What's your leg?
We have long leg, you have a fine leg, I think.
What's your inseam?
I have a very long leg. We'll say it together, ready? Here's our inseam. What's your leg? We have long legs. You have a fine leg, I think. What's your inseam? I have a very long leg.
We'll say it together.
Ready?
Here's our inseam.
One, two, three.
36.
I'm a 36.
What'd you say?
36.
Yeah, is it really?
No, I have to-
You said you were a 30.
Well, I was afraid.
I was afraid to go.
I have a very-
36?
I have a long inseam.
And so I-
That's long.
So anyway, I see this gentleman come in
and he's wearing these amazing jeans
and I said, oh my God, Jeff, where'd you get those jeans?
She went, oh, well, oh my boy.
Oh my boy.
She said, oh my boy.
Oh my boy, oh, oh good, oh.
And he went, oh, oh my boy, you simply must, oh.
And then you said, and then you said,
and then you said, I'll never forget,
you said, the Schaeffer Garment Hotel.
That's right. What? And it's this place. Yeah, Robert Schaeffer. Yeah, you said, oh, the Schaeffer Garment Hotel. And I go there and you said, and then you said, and then you said, I'll never forget, you said, the Schaeffer Garment Hotel. That's right. What?
And it's this place. Robert Schaeffer.
Yeah, you said, oh, the Schaeffer Garment Hotel.
And I go there, and you said, just go, just go.
So I go, and of course, it's the coolest people in the world,
and they have like an old denim machine.
What? And it's amazing.
It's like the John Wick Hotel, but for clothes?
Yes, yes it is.
It's the John Wick Hotel, except just for jeans.
Oh my.
And how about the hat maker in the back?
There's a guy there wearing like Slash's hat
and he's like, I'm making one of these.
And I went, well, I don't know if I can carry that off.
There's a dog that's in the store.
Yeah, that's right.
Do you know who I ran into there once?
I was with Emily.
We went there to pick up a pair of jeans
or a hat or something.
And it was just us and Bob Dylan.
Oh my God.
Yes, cause he got his hats from that guy.
Oh.
I saw him out of the corner of my eye.
I kept, I had important business,
I was talking about hats, and he came in,
and before I could say anything to him, he left.
But I think Emily, I don't know if she said anything.
What, you didn't go up to him?
No, no, I wish I had.
I think I, I mean, I've told this before,
but I met him once.
I got pushed to the front of the,
I went to see some concert of his,
and I was backstage, and someone pushed me
to the front of a line, and there he was,
the great Bob Dylan.
It's my one chance to meet him.
And he, all this conversation stopped,
and Bob Dylan looked at me, and he went,
I know you from the TV.
I heard you say that.
That's true, it's true.
The TV, he said, I know you from the TV.
And just then the other person backstage
was Vice President Al Gore.
And so all I hear is, I know you from the TV.
And then I heard, Conan, Conan, it's me, Al Gore.
And I'm like, what? What is Al Gore. And I'm like what?
What is this event?
And I go what?
We're all there for a concert to see Bob Dylan perform
and he goes like I love rock and roll, you know.
And suddenly he's talking to me
and I see Bob Dylan scuttle away.
I was cock blocked with Bob Dylan by Vice President Al Gore.
That's a true story. If you had told me that that wasn't a true story but that was a dream you had last night. cock-blocked with Bob Dylan by Vice President Al Gore.
That's a true story. If you had told me that that wasn't a true story,
but that was a dream you had last night,
it would be just as credible.
Yeah, and then, trust me, I wanted to detach Gore's tongue
from his body to get him to stop yapping at me.
No, I'm sorry, I'll do respect to the former Vice President
and of course a leading figure in climate prevention change. Just another nocturnal emission happening. Yeah. You know what? He does
this to me. Jeff Goldblum does this to me. You're not wrong. He unmans me. Yeah. You're
just bewitching and this is joyous. Yes.
When I'm around you, uh oh, look at him take a sip.
Isn't that really something? Everything he does is perfection.
You just want to take a sip
and it's like there's a golden liquid in there,
but I know it's just something, okay.
Looks like ginger ale or rum, I don't know.
No, it's some green tea that they made for me here.
But I know how you despise ice drinks.
Oh!
Oh!
Of course I heard that whole,
I've seen every, I've heard every episode.
Every single one.
I don't know if we should be excited or horrified
that you're coming here.
You know our deepest darkest foibles.
I have to say, Jeff, you know,
we really are an awful lot.
You can be better than us, Jeff.
You know what, you can sip any day
because everything you do.
Listen, listen.
Oh my God.
That is Jeff Goldblum sipping.
Oh my God, you're the best.
You know, you know what's interesting to me?
There is a, there's a sensuality that you exude about,
see, even with the smallest gestures, a sensuality that you exude about,
see even with the smallest gestures, a sensuality. And then I find, and I'm quite comfortable in my sexuality,
but I find that when I'm around you,
I'm open for anything, I really am.
I am, I'm just saying that.
I feel the same.
And Matt is as well, we're just up for it.
I'd like to offer myself as a sacrifice in some way.
Wait, you mean like if Jeff invited you
to like a weird sex party, you'd be like, oh, okay.
You know how uptight I am, right?
But if Jeff Goldblum said,
oh, come with me into this special sanctum
and I want you to introduce me to my secret friends
and it's gonna be, but first you must apply this wax
and oil. I
would do it. I would do it because he's that. And it's gonna be Diane Keaton, Ron
Howard and Robert Altman. And Bob Dylan in Alport. Bob Dylan's gonna see me and go, I know you from the TV.
I'm gonna know you in a whole different way. And then I'm just about to get it on with Bob Dylan when I get to hear, Conan, Conan!
Ha ha ha ha!
It's me, Vice President Al Gore!
Very erotic.
Yeah.
Well, this little packet that we're in, don't you love this?
Is this the first date?
This is the first time, yeah.
Well, I love this blue velvet purse that we're in.
It's like a sex panic room.
What?
I don't know.
Sex panic?
With microphones.
Have you ever been in a sex panic?
That's a sex, I have been in a sex panic myself.
See, that's the problem.
That's why I envy you is,
I'm sorry.
Is,
I don't think Jeff would ever be in a sex panic.
Jeff Koebue would never be in a sex panic. I am in a constant, even when there's nothing sexual happening, ever be in a sex panic. Jeff Kovu would never be in a sex panic.
I am in a constant, even when there's nothing sexual
happening, I'm in a sex panic.
I'm constantly in my own head.
He's the antidote,
cause he could be a sex bomb to your sex panic.
No.
This is not coming out.
A sex whisper.
Yes, sex whisper.
A sex whisper.
Sex bomb, sex bomb.
Who, who, who did that song?
Sex bomb.
It wasn't bomb, but it was bomb.
Oh yeah.
Sex bomb. Was it V52s? No but it was bomb. Oh yeah. Sex Bomb.
Was it V-52s?
No, it was a big hit in Europe, particularly during these couple of years that I remember.
Sex Bomb.
Sex Bomb.
You only remember a couple of years?
I think we got it coming.
No, during these couple of years.
When it was a hit, he's looking it up.
When it was a hit, I was in Europe making a movie and it was on all the time, but I don't
think it made its way across the pond.
I don't think it did either.
I know that.
Sex Bomb. Sex Bomb. And there was a video, I'll give you a clue, that same singer
is not unusual. Oh, Tom Jones. Yeah,, it is, and they call it Thunderball.
And they strike, strikes, like Thunderball.
Do you know that Johnny Cash did a rejected
Thunderball theme song?
I did not know that.
I didn't know that.
Well, he unsolicited sent it to them and they went,
we never asked for this.
It was not that song, it was his own song.
You know, can I say something?
And this is to be, because I know a lot about Johnny Cash,
I revere him.
He sent in a lot of unsolicited songs.
He was constantly sending in like,
Perel Shampoo, Alpo Dog Food.
He was constantly, yeah, he was constantly sending in,
I've Got A Different Way You Could Go with that song,
Purina Cat Chow, Chow Chow Chow.
I can't even. Not true.
I believed you for a second, and now I feel really dumb.
I was like, oh, you're kidding.
You know the best part of waking up is lifting in your cup.
You know, that's Saint John.
Johnny Cash first sent it in.
He did it in that Johnny Cash way.
Yeah, he first sang that song.
You look sharp.
Yodel-doodle-doodle.
Feel sharp.
Yodel-doodle-doodle.
Be sharp.
Yodel-doodle-doodle.
Ring a burning fire.
Ring a bonk. Down, down, downinging, burning fire. Ringing a bong.
Down, down, down.
A burning fire.
A burning fire.
I'm stuck on Band-Aids.
Cause Band-Aids stuck on me.
He did the Oscar Mayer song.
Duh.
Babylonia has a first name.
It's O-S-E-R.
Babylonia has a second name.
Oh, and you know what?
I mean.
No, no, no.
Wasn't the Oscar Mayer.
You know what the sad? Last thing he did before he passed away was the car for kids jingle. Oh, man you know what, I mean. No, no, no, wasn't the Oscar. You know what the sad, last thing he did before he passed away
was the car for kids jingle.
Oh, man.
I don't know that jingle.
Sing it.
Is it 1-800-cars-for-kids, something like that.
Oh, that.
OK, yeah.
But I think the Oscar Mayer thing was,
I'd like to be an Oscar Mayer wiener.
Oh, I'd like to be an Oscar Mayer wiener.
Ah, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
Yes, I'd like to be an Oscar Mayer wiener.
That is what I'd really like to be. I'd like to be an Oscar Mayer. As if I were an Oscar an Oscar Mayweener. That's what I'd really like to be.
I'd like to be an Oscar Mayweener.
As if I were an Oscar Mayweener.
Now all the kids would be in love with me.
Yes.
I fell into a burning ring of fire.
Just so you know, to be fair, that most jingles that you love were written by Johnny Cash.
That's true.
Unsolicited, he would just send them in?
But he did do the Thunderball.
That's how we got started.
I dropped dropping mental breadcrumbs.
He did send in the Thunder.. That's how we got started. Dropping mental breadcrumbs. He did send in the Thunder, you say?
And it sounds like a typical Johnny Cash song,
except it has kind of like John Barry horns in it.
It's really something.
I love that.
I love that Thunderball.
I was right at the right age for that
because I had consumed Dr. No from Rush With Love,
Goldfinger, I was so ready for Thunderball.
Boy, that was great.
Is he your favorite Bond of all time?
I'm gonna say for me it's Sean Connery,
but Daniel Craig is right there with him
and I thought no one could do that.
I thought no one could.
Sean Connery was so incredible.
Fantastic.
When he peaked, when he went to the summit of the Alps,
after Thunderball, I think,
nothing against John Connery, those movies,
it started to-
He was phoning it in a bit.
Wither, yeah, and by the time he got to Jill St. John and-
Diamonds are forever.
Diamonds are forever, yeah, you know, not in my favor.
And then-
I just have never been happier in my life right now.
I know, this is right up your alley.
I'll tell you, Matt Gorley is a Bond fanatic
and a huge Jeff Goldblum fan.
Now he's in a room, they've both come together
and he's having a nocturnal emission.
Oh my God, there's so many emissions happening.
A diurnal emission all day long here, this is really.
A what?
Yeah.
The what, the what?
Diurnal?
Diurnal.
Oh, is that the daytime, the diurnal?
I believe so.
Di diurnal, di diurnal, diurnal, diurnal, diurnal.
I believe I know that song.
Johnny Cash first sent that in.
Okay, listen, you have.
Yes, he submitted all my Bar Mitzvah song.
Oh, yeah, you know what makes me perfect?
You know what makes me perfect?
I fell into a burning ring of...
It's becoming more Elvis.
It's becoming more Elvis than Johnny Cash.
I never said I was the perfect, you know.
Oh my God.
You know, you are a terrific jazz musician,
and I'm bringing this up for a reason.
I think to understand Jeff Goldblum, which is impossible,
but to really understand what makes this man tick,
I think is your love of jazz.
You are constantly improvising in the moment
and tuned into that crazy galaxy
that real jazz musicians are tuned into.
And a good friend of mine just went
and saw you perform the other night
and said that you were fantastic.
Really?
Yes.
That's very nice, that's very encouraging, thank you.
Yeah, we played the Disney Concert Hall.
Yes.
Oh my God.
Yeah, a couple of nights ago.
But what I'm saying is, am I correct
that there's something about music, I just feel
like you're in tune with some jazz musical score all the time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you think that's, and this is a compliment by the way.
Thank you so much.
I like jazz, well, I aspire to it.
I'm a humble student of jazz and of the technology of presence in all its various ramifications in the podcast world, in the
jazz world, in the musical world, and everything.
Oh, I had thought, by the way, hasn't anybody sung songs, a snippet of song about friendship
as you're still looking for friends?
By the way, how many friends do you need?
How long have you been looking for friends now?
How many have you found by this time?
Zero. Jeff, they don't often take. That's the problem.
I am I don't wear well over time. That's one of the problems.
Yeah, but I feel that we are you know, sometimes plants
They have to graft. They have to graft into each other is what you're saying.
Yes, I'm right there with you. I think we have we need to graft into each other. Yes
We need to very very much. Yeah, but of, do you know any songs about friendship?
Well, the song that, you know,
We Are Gonna Be Friends that White Stripes did,
Jack White, he's a good friend of mine,
and that's the song I wanted.
Name dropper.
Yeah.
He wrote the song with Jeff Altman.
Oh, Jeff Altman.
Robert Altman, sorry.
Oh.
Anyway.
Fall is here, hear the yell.
You sing like a nightingale.
I love your voice.
When you're not doing that, you have a beautiful,
authentic, conversational, delightful voice.
Can I say something?
You must.
I'm always so self-conscious that I put trills
and foolishness in there.
But you just-
And I never just sing.
You just sang and I loved it.
Yeah.
Silent night.
No, he's gonna sing.
Oh, is that-
You're gonna do a thing.
Holy night.
All is calm.
Yeah, he's doing it again.
No, it's doing it again, right?
Yeah, yeah.
He's doing it again.
All is prime.
Try to take all the-
Can't do it.
The brighter out of it.
Sleep. No, no. I mean, you can't do it. The brighter out of it. Sleep.
No, no.
I mean you can't be normal.
No, but you were just singing.
So sing that, whatever you want to sing,
like the other voice, that's it.
Let's see.
You've got a friend.
Oh no, I can't sing that song.
How about the Jason Isbell song you sang to us
that time that you were there?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. How's that go?
It goes, never could be happy in the city at night.
That's beautiful.
Yeah, can't see the stars for the neon lights.
Beautiful.
Sidewalks dirty and the river's worse,
underground trains all run in reverse,
nobody here can dance like me,
everybody claps on the one and the three. Am I the last
of my kind? Am I the last of my kind? That's the song.
Very moving, very beautiful. Boy, you should do an album of songs that way. I'd love to
hear you do that.
He can't do it.
I can't do it.
I just want to say you two are just locked in icons.
I know.
Can I tell you something, Jeff? I couldn, you- Can I tell you something, Jeff?
I couldn't, and I'm supposed to,
and I want to write a song with Amy Mann.
Yeah, I love Amy Mann.
I adore Amy Mann, and I'm intimidated by Amy Mann's talent,
but we promised to write a song together,
and then the last thing she said to me,
I said, yeah, I'll do it, and she said,
you know, it's just gotta be something like sincere
and something that you really wanna say, and I was like, oh. Oh, that's not gonna happen. You could do it? I'll do it. And she said, you know, it's just gotta be something like sincere and something that you really wanna say.
And I was like, oh, oh, that's not gonna happen.
You could do it.
You could do it. No, I can't.
You can't.
Sona, will you tell them please take over?
No, I was on the edge of my seat
the entire time you were singing
cause I thought he was gonna go into some bit
and like do something with your voice.
Things eventually become a bit.
They do a bit.
It's a, you're like joking around.
Well, who knows where it will be consumed
or how it should be presented,
but just for your own, just for, you know, just do it.
I'd love to hear, just for me, and for Sonan, for us,
I'd love to hear you do it.
And you don't have to jettison your comedic force
of nature.
You could be surprising and do one like that
and one like that and one like that,
but that's a very useful part of your toolbox,
in my opinion, and a very enjoyable one.
That's, well, that's very nice.
I'm curious about something because we have so much
in common, not just our incredible height and physiques,
not just our successful, incredibly successful careers,
both of us, as actors.
My point is that we both, and you mentioned this earlier,
both of us, both of our fathers, doctors.
Yes, right.
And I don't know, there's this couple of similarities there.
I'm fascinated by this idea that sometimes
a salmon just knows it has to swim upstream.
I don't know why, but somehow you knew
when you were a kid
that you needed to be an actor, that you needed to be a performer.
Yep.
I did.
I did.
Yeah, around 10, we started to go to Children's Theater.
And I was like, what are they doing?
Who is that?
What are they doing backstage?
And I'd be very excited to go.
And then around ninth and 10th grades,
I went to this summer session of Carnegie Mellon University and took real lessons. And then around ninth and 10th grades, I went to this summer session
of Carnegie Mellon University and took real lessons.
And, oh, no, but before that, yes,
I went to Chata Music Day Camp around fifth grade
and was in this show.
And my dad had said,
if you have to find something you love to do,
that maybe is a key to your vocational choice wisely.
And that night they said, so how'd you like that?
And I was like, yeah, I liked it.
But I kept it secret because there was no, you know,
I kept it secret.
I wanted to be an actor.
And certainly in school, I was a well-behaved good boy
and nobody would have thought
that I would do anything like that
except that I played piano here and there and that.
So that was it, yeah.
And he was a doctor, but I must say, I don't know.
What kind of doctor by the way?
Internal medicine, kind of a family doctor.
Got it, got it.
But you know, patients loved him
and he would always kind of keep up on his studies
and this and that.
And you know, he liked medicine.
But early on, supposedly the story goes,
he, when he wanted to decide what he was gonna do,
he was either gonna be a doctor or an actor.
He had the idea to be an actor,
and then he stuck his head in the back of a class
and thought to himself, this is out of my league,
whatever that meant.
So he was a doctor, but so he was a little bit tickled
when I- Of course.
Yeah.
And he got to see you become Jeff Goldblum, the big deal.
Yeah, well, not such a big deal, not even a big deal now.
But he got to see me start to, because things
started to happen quickly.
He died like in 83, around the time I did The Big Chill.
But he saw a few movies before that and some plays.
And I remember I did a play called City Sugar,
where I was the lead.
I was a radio guy in England with an English accent,
a Stephen Poliakoff play called City Sugar.
And I did it at this off-Broadway show.
He went to see, when he came backstage,
and he was not like this, he was burst into tears
and threw his arms around me.
Oh wow.
Yeah, like that.
I know, I know.
Well, I can't relate.
Oh.
Anyway.
I don't mean to interrupt,
but I just realized something that's, speaking of when you knew
you wanted to do something, when I was a very young boy, my dad took me to downtown LA,
because that's where he used to work.
First celebrity sighting was something being shot.
A warehouse door opens up, outruns Ben Varine, and then outruns Jeff Goldblum shooting 10
Speed and Brown Show.
Okay, and I was going to bring this up, that the first time we met,
TV was our life preserver when we were kids.
And my brothers, Neil and Luke and I,
were really into what's the new show,
what's the new show,
and we're constantly looking for
what's the new show gonna be.
It was a big deal back then.
Now people are bombarded with TV
and streaming all the time.
Back in the late 70s, early 80s, there was a big deal like ABC is coming out with its
lineup in the fall and all summer you'd be excited.
You'd hear rumors about what it was going to be and CBS is coming out with this and
NBC is coming out with that.
And there was this show that we heard about called 10 Speed and Brown Shoe and my brothers
and I watched it
and it starred Ben Varine and this guy
I had never heard of before named Jeff Goldblum
and it was fucking fantastic.
It was so good and I was like, who is that guy?
Who's that guy?
That guy's fantastic and then the show didn't last.
13 episodes as well.
It was fantastic.
Bring it back.
Stephen Jay Cannell, who had done Rockford Files
and many other things.
But I remember that.
And what, Greatest American Hero?
Yeah.
Well, believe it or not, I'm walking on air.
Ba-da-da-da-da-da.
So good.
Please don't ask me to sing that one.
William Catt.
Johnny Cash first sent that in.
Oh, we were walking on air.
So I, you know, but it's funny that we all have,
it's so funny that you bring that up, Matt,
because that is the first time that I met Jeff Goldblum.
I'm using your full name, just out of reverence.
You know, it would have been a couple of years
into the late night show that I met you,
and you've, you know, you've done, I mean, everything.
You'd have been in so many great movies
and I went back into your dressing room
and I was like, 10 speed and brown shoe.
And I remember you were, you were like,
oh yeah, 10 speed and brown shoe.
Cause I thought you might say, oh well, who cares about that?
You know, I've moved on to so many other things
and, but it was such, it really tickled me
when I was a,
I don't know, Zach, how old would I have been?
14, 15?
Well, it was like 1980, I think, so you were born in?
I was 16, 17.
16, 17.
Awesome, I was seven when I saw you guys shooting that,
and I just was baffled by the cameras
and that you did it multiple times
and going, why are they doing it again and again?
Really, how did you wind up there?
Where were you?
My dad worked downtown, and he would take me
to downtown quite a bit, downtown LA.
What did he do, your dad?
He was a division manager for the gas company.
Oh, I see.
Well, he also sold drugs.
Major kingpin.
So downtown, no kidding, and you just happened upon
us shooting, no kidding.
And I was just blown away.
I remember, you know, it's so funny
when you think about these brushes with show business.
As we said earlier, I was so far removed from, you know,
show business in my childhood,
and then I'll never forget, my father came home one day
and he said, they're shooting a movie at my hospital,
the Peter Brent Brigham Hospital,
which is now Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston.
It's a big hospital.
And he said, they're shooting a scene
right outside my office.
And we were like, they're shooting a movie in Boston?
Near my dad's, like right outside my dad's office?
That's impossible, that can't be.
And so we rushed over there and it was a scene
where actor James Coburn, oh, just has to walk out and open a car door
and get in it and shut the door.
And he walked out, they go, and action.
And so James Coburn walks up and he walks up to the car
and it won't open and it won't open.
And they go, cut.
The car has been, someone had locked it
with the keys inside.
So then we watched James Coburn just stand there
while three, like seven guys crowd around
and start with a coat hanger trying to open the door.
And I got to find out the name of this movie
because I guess you could watch it.
What year would this have been?
This would have been like 1971 or 72.
We could look that up, we could find out.
And trying to lift up the door and they couldn't get it.
And I thought, this is movie making?
Wow, yeah.
What the hell is this?
Well, still one is struck by that when you go to,
you know, some movie and there's, you know,
all the little things going on.
Hey, I love James Coburn.
You know, I saw the first run of Iron Man Flint.
Oh my God.
And in like Flint.
Oh, we're back.
Yeah.
Do you remember how the telephone rang
in Lee J Cobb's office?
Ba da da da da da da da da da da.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like that.
I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
Okay, this was kind of almost a takeoff
on James Bond, but not really, I mean, it was very silly.
Derek Flint, Derek Flint.
Yeah, and then.
Austin Power had kind of borrowed some things like that, kind of went from there.
What is the James Coburn movie? I've got to find that out.
I'll bet. Let me guess. Let me guess. After that, I think after that, he did a movie called The President's Analyst.
It could have been that.
Oh, yeah.
You know, I remember him talking about it on talk shows. I used to love talk shows.
When I was in Pittsburgh, I used to tune into, in summer, stay home all day and watch the Mike Douglas show.
Go from Mike Douglas to, you know, Dinah Shore
and the Merv Griffin.
And he used to come on.
Remember, he was kind of a counter-cultural hippie actor
that used to come on with a turtleneck, you know,
or in a medallion or something like that.
And his, he used to come on, not just talk,
he wanted to play the gong.
And he used to bring onto Carson a big, big gong
and go, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-bing, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba- to keep the madness going. You talk about how people would just do strange things.
One of the stranger things we did once
was we just put out a salt lick on my show
to see if we could attract a celebrity.
And then you did it so nicely.
Out of nowhere, just Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, just in the corner,
but he does it sort of like a nervous deer.
And he slowly approaches and I'm like,
oh, looks like Jeff Cobb, shh, everyone be quiet.
And he came out and then he like sniffed,
sniffed the salt lick and then he took a little lick.
I remember that being one of my favorite,
such a stupid, I don't care.
So James Coburn played the gong with Carson.
Yeah, let's see you have Jeff Gobloom.
What do we got for Coburn? The Coburn is the Cary Treatment.
Cary Treatment is a 1972 American crime thriller film
by Blake Edwards Baseball.
Yes.
It takes place in Boston.
In Boston.
Dr. Peter Cary played by James Coburn,
a pathologist who moves to Boston
where he starts working.
Okay, well I don't know it, but Blake Edwards, boy.
Well guess what?
So this is another fun story.
My dad's there.
This didn't happen when I was there.
They kept shooting this right outside my dad's window,
and he kept thinking, well, I could keep looking
into this microscope for a cure to a terrible disease,
or I could go outside and hang out with these movie folk.
So he went outside, and he's chatting,
and he can't believe it, but Blake Edwards is there
with his wife, Julie Andrews.
Yes. And a friend of my dad's, who doesn't believe it, but Blake Edwards is there with his wife, Julie Andrews. And a friend of my dad's who doesn't know much
because he's always looking in a microscope
is talking to Blake Edwards.
And then he turned to Julie Andrews and said-
The friend of your dad's?
The friend of my dad's and said,
now tell me, miss, what do you do?
Oh no, oh no.
And she said, well, I'm an actress as well.
And he went, well.
And then later on, people told him what he did.
And the guy, I think, put his head in a cyclotron.
Oh no.
It's like that scene from Notting Hill
when Julia Roberts comes in.
Yeah.
I know that reference.
Yes.
Notting Hill.
There you go.
We're getting closer and closer to her references.
When you said Julie Andrews, I was like, yeah,
she narrated Bridgerton, so I know her.
And you know what?
Oh my God.
Sound of music, sound of music.
I'm kidding.
You know, when the Thanksgiving Day parade,
when I lived in New York, we lived on the Upper West Side
and my kids were crazy about seeing the parade go by.
And so I'd always take them.
They were little kids, they could see the parade.
And once I'm watching on the television
and we haven't gone down yet and the parade is going by,
and then they said, and here comes Julie Andrews.
I lost my fucking mind.
I'm at the time, I'm whatever, I'm a 46 year old man.
I ran without my kids.
Oh my God.
And I ran all the way down.
They were like, where are you going?
I was like, time!
And I ran, cause I wanted to get down there fast.
And I saw her go by and I was like, it's Julie Andrews.
And I've been on TV at this point, you know, whatever,
12 years and I'm like, ah, Julie Andrews.
I mean, she didn't see me, but.
Amazing. Yeah.
Amazing. How about the movie 10? She's in the movie 10 of course too. But Sound of Music, I saw, she didn't see me, but. Amazing. Yeah.
Amazing, how about the movie 10?
She's in the movie 10, of course, too.
But Sound of Music, I saw when it first came out,
you know, it was a big deal around that.
And I showed it to our kids now.
I showed this, we showed Sound of Music.
We haven't shown them many movies.
I'm gonna show them, they've never been to a movie theater,
but I think I'm gonna take them to see
Jurassic World. Well, your kids are.
Your kids are.
Seven, almost seven, and just turned five.
Oh my God, okay, so they're at such a great age
and because of COVID, they've missed out
on some of these great experiences.
Like going to a movie theater is so,
that was the biggest thing in the world
that could happen to me was to get to go to a movie theater
and see a movie.
Really?
Yeah, and so when I say to, you know,
anyone in my family now, hey, do you wanna go see a movie?
And they're like, eh, I don't know.
I'm like, I don't know, what are you talking about?
It's because they can see anything they want at any time. Right, right, oh yeah, go see a movie? And they're like, eh, I don't know. I'm like, I don't know. What are you talking about? It's because they can see anything they want at any time.
Right, right.
Oh yeah, going to movie theater.
I'm about to do, I'm involved in this cycle of publicity
for Jurassic Park Dominion.
And one of the things we're encouraging people to do,
genuinely on my part, is to go out and see it
in the movies, you know, of course.
And I made a list because of that.
I thought, oh, what are the best times I've ever had
in movie theaters in my life?
Because it's, you know, that's a way to talk about it. And so I started to remember,
and with the help of my sister too, all the movies I saw importantly when I was a kid.
And she said, oh, remember this one. And it's been a nostalgia blast.
So these are the movies that really blew you away?
Yes. These are the ones we remember. She and I used to go to, they used
to drop us off to the Leona Theater,
this big, beautiful jewel box of a three-tiered movie palace.
In Pittsburgh?
In Pittsburgh, West Homestead, a suburb of Pittsburgh.
Not downtown, it's a little suburb,
but they had this movie theater.
And we'd go for 25 cents, 50 cents, or something,
whatever tickets were, get popcorn with butter and salt
and hot dogs.
Jeff Goldblum is about to read a list
of his favorite movies.
This is heaven for me.
The ones that made a big difference
that I can remember to this day.
Let's hear it.
Okay, we saw, see if any of these mean anything to you.
The Absent-Minded Professor.
Yes.
You know, Fred McMurray, Flubber, all that.
That made a big impression on me.
The Blob.
Oh, the original.
Which I've seen recently.
Steve McQueen, very good, his first movie.
Now, who was, of course, you'll know who was in all
of these movies, which we saw, we saw whatever
that came to there.
But during this period, the 60, early 60s,
the bellboy, cinderfella disorderly,
orderly, visited a small planet,
Geisha boy.
Of course, the nutty professor.
Delinquent, rockabye, baby nutty professor.
Yeah, loved it.
Then I got the chance to meet him.
Did you ever meet Jerry?
I did, I got to meet him, I got to interview him.
That's so interesting.
Well, we could talk all about that.
Well, did you meet Jerry Lewis?
Yes, I did.
I was going to play his son in that last movie
that he did, Augie Rose.
Augie Rose?
Augie?
Oh, no, no.
Max Rose. Max Rose.
And so I went to Vegas in order,
I was almost gonna do it before I got something else
and couldn't and I don't know.
And so I hung out with him in his office in Las Vegas.
How was he?
And bonded, amazing, we could talk for, you know, amazing.
He'd made a big, he was big in my childhood
and during this period.
So I was thrilled to meet him.
And he was, you know, as you know him at that stage,
great, you know, great and complicated.
Very complicated.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
But those movies, when we were seeing those movies,
big deal.
Do you know what this movie is, the Sterile Cuckoo?
No.
Liza Minnelli's first movie, she plays a nerdy girl.
The Sterile Cuckoo.
Sterile Cuckoo's coming.
Terrible name for a movie.
Yeah.
It is.
Nobody wants to, sterility is never something
that draws the masses.
Yeah.
Come one, come all, bring the family.
The Sterile Cuckoo.
Yeah.
That Cuckoo's not having children.
How about this movie?
Who knows this?
I don't think you will.
Georgie Girl.
Oh yeah.
We almost made our dollar after that.
We almost made our dollar after that.
Georgie Girl.
Walking Down the Street So Fancy Free was played by
Redgrave.
Lynn Redgrave, who might worked with later believe it or not.
Oh, well, Bridge on the River Kwai.
We saw the first viewing of it.
The Man Who Shot Liberty Violence.
Yes.
I love that.
Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte?
How about Betty Davis and Joan Crawford together?
Gay Parry, P-U-R-E-E, about an animated movie
about an impressionistic style, French impressions about cats.
And I think Robert Goulet did a voice.
Dr. No from Russia with Love, Goldfinger,
fantastic, Iron Man, Flint, I have Pink Panther,
the first Pink Panther.
Now you put me.
We went to a movie theater and there was Peter Sellers,
never seen before as Clouseau, Blake Edwards, unbelievable.
I remember the day we saw that.
Those movies changed my life.
Bobby Dee and I went, my best friend went to that theater
to see Psycho, first time.
Oh wow.
Run of Psycho, unbelievable.
I just spent some time with Jamie Lee Curtis
in CinemaCon, you know.
You know what's so great about,
there were all these great, they don't do it anymore,
but there were these great promotional tricks
that they did back in the day
to get people to come see movies.
And Alfred Hitchcock was a genius at this.
So when Psycho came out,
he had like ambulances
outside the theaters and he very much publicized,
we're gonna have medical personnel available
for people who faint or have seizures
during this terrifying movie.
And people went mad for it.
And there was like a do not be late for this one.
Remember, you won't let you in after the first.
Yeah, yeah, we won't let you in.
Do not tell your friends what happens.
Yes, exactly. And he did all that stuff,
he did it with the birds, he did,
he had all these great, I mean, what a great showman he was
in addition to being, you know, this incredible.
The Birds was another movie we saw first run,
loved that day that we saw that,
but then we went, oh, I had a crush on this girl,
and we went, I went on a field trip
hoping to kind of be near her,
I had not made any headway.
And we saw Hard Day's Night.
Yeah.
The, well that was.
What girl did you have a crush on?
Stephanie Ignatz.
Oh, I thought you said, oh, oh, okay.
I thought you meant
you had a crush on a girl in the movie.
No, not in the movie.
Those were fellas, they just had long hair.
No.
In ninth grade, in ninth grade, no, Stephanie.
And she was going, so I was gonna tag along too.
Have you ever kept up with Stephanie Ignatz?
You know, I am.
We have her here today.
Here she is.
A little bit. Oh my God, look out.
She's deranged.
Some 10 or 15 years after this period,
we got in touch and we saw each other.
She went out to California and, you know, I saw her.
Okay, okay, you saw her, but she didn't see you.
You followed her from a distance.
Oh no, no, not like that.
They saw each other.
Oh, okay.
He closes the deal.
It wasn't like that.
No, no, no.
He understands.
Oh, I'm making it clear.
What I do is I look them up, and then I just,
I peer at them through shrubbery from 50 yards away.
Oh my God.
Yeah, that's my, when I say, oh I saw her,
that's what I mean.
Norman Bates, speaking of Norman Bates.
Yeah, I know.
Threw a hole in the, in your office wall.
Oh man.
Yeah.
Yes.
He's got them all over this building.
It's horrible.
I have to ask you, speaking of movies,
we have to talk about, because in Tracer Park
and this character that you played, Dr. Ian,
what's the last name?
Malcolm.
Malcolm, that's right.
Malcolm.
Yes, you, I mean, God, you nailed that character so much
and now you're coming back and you're assembling
with the same people to bring these people back to life.
Yes, sir.
So who else is with you in this, is Laura Dern?
Laura Dern, of course, the great Laura Dern, the great Sam Neill.
So the three of us from the first movie are back together for the first time since then.
And we're reunited and have something to do with in this story with Bryce Dallas Howard's character
and Chris Pratt's character. But also B.D. Wong is back from the first one.
That's great. Yeah, isn't that great?
And Omar C. from most recently,
and Daniela Poneida, and Justice Smith,
and wait a minute, wait a minute,
and new characters, DeWanda Wise, Mamadou Aceh,
and Campbell Scott are in this.
Yeah, Isabel Sterman comes back, so it's great.
Can you think about, I mean, this is something
that I think would be worthwhile for you
to settle with for a second, is that movies
were such a big deal for you growing up.
You've now been in a bunch of movies,
and you think about Jurassic Park,
so many young people, that was an eye-opening experience
for them, and you were a big part of it.
It's interesting how the loop closes in a strange way.
Isn't it?
It's fascinating.
I know it's a dreamy life that I've had.
I can't believe it.
I'm very grateful.
And it's amazing that I had get a chance to be
in some movies and some movies with people,
like I've said, that I saw early on.
It is amazing.
I have to say that that is something,
and I brought this up before,
but also I've had a dreamy life
and getting the chance to just, to me,
getting to interact with someone I saw on a movie screen
or a television set when I was a child, nothing tops that.
And you know, there are all these massive stars
that come along later on in life,
and it doesn't have the same effect
as meeting someone like a Dick Van Dyke
or meeting someone who was in a movie
and a huge deal when you were a kid like Jerry Lewis,
or seeing a Julie Andrews on a parade float go by.
And even though she's 50 yards away,
I can't believe that, oh wait, I saw you there as a child,
and now you're still here, life is magic.
Amazing.
Vincent Price, we saw some Vincent Price movies,
then I did, he was in The Fly,
the first fly which I saw back then.
I think I saw him in a Ralph's later.
Oh my God!
You saw Vincent Price at a Ralph's?
I do believe so, I think I went up to him,
and he's, yes, yes.
He was, you know, picking out melons or something.
Or from Turkey.
Yeah, he was a good chef, you know.
Oh my God.
It's too bad Bill Hader isn't here.
Cause he does, Bill Hader does the best
Vincent Price of all.
And he'd be going, you know, I don't do it,
but he'd be here doing Vincent Price at a Ralph's.
We should remind him of that. Yeah. No, we should do. We Price at a Ralph's. We should remind him of that.
Yeah.
No, we should do, we will be seeing him soon.
We should remind him of that.
Cause Vincent Price at a Ralph's, and I used to,
you know, when I first moved out here to LA,
a long time ago in 1988, my brother Neil came out
and visited me and there was a Ralph's across the street.
And he kept seeing all these huge, he saw Cesar Romero.
Oh, the Joker.
And he'd come back and he'd go, I saw him.
And I'm like, what is he, he was buying,
he was buying dog food at Ralph's.
He was always going to Ralph's and he would hang out there
and he would go right up to them and go,
I loved you as the Joker or I saw Harry Morgan from MASH.
And I read, you know, and then he would always tell me
what they were buying, you know?
He was buying a giant thing of beans.
You know?
It always never matched.
Like I saw Cher, what was she getting?
Industrial strength toilet cleaner.
Oh, no, I didn't wanna know that.
She would never.
She would never.
I was so crazy about the fraud.
I hadn't met anybody famous or who was in movies.
When I was a kid and the first couple of brushes I had,
who did I first, we went on a vacation.
And who was staying at this hotel was Darren McGavin.
Oh my God, oh my God.
Oh, he's great.
Of the Night Stalker.
Yes, I was like, do you think we'll see him at breakfast?
Well, I never went up to him, but I was just,
when are we gonna see him again?
He's the dad.
I am really anxious.
In Christmas Story, he's the dad.
Oh, he is?
But he's also one of the great,
he's also in The Natural, obviously.
He's one of the villains in The Natural.
He's got one funny guy in there.
But he did, I think maybe my favorite show as a kid.
Oh, Kolchak?
Was, he played Karl Kolchak in The Night Stalker,
which was the scariest show on television. It only ran, I mean, maybe itak? Was, he played Karl Kolchak in The Night Stalker, which was the scariest show on television.
It only ran, I mean, maybe it ran two seasons, if that.
It was not a success, but it was such a scary show.
I have that on DVD.
No, it's fantastic.
It's fantastic.
I've never seen them, I don't know about that.
And Darren McGavin was fantastic.
And I got to, I don't think he ever did my show,
but I got to meet him once and yeah, my soul left my body.
I was so excited.
I couldn't believe I was meeting him.
Unbelievable, unbelievable.
So yeah, I'm back in this movie now.
And yeah, coming out June 10th, you brought it up.
That's your, and I love that you went,
sorry, I'm back in this movie and well, da da da da da. June 10th, you brought it up. That's your, that's your from, I love that you went, so anyway, back in this movie and, well, da da da da da.
June 10th, you brought it up.
I love that.
I was just trying to remember where we got off that.
But next on my list was Diary of a Madman,
Vincent Price and Tomb of Lygia.
He was a big deal to us, you know,
some of those Roger Cormers, I was a teenage Frankenstein,
I was a teenage werewolf.
They're two horrible movies, but interesting, EGOT. Did anyone ever do I was a teenage werewolf. Two horrible movies, but interesting, E.G.O.W.
Did anyone ever do, I was a teenage teenager?
No.
No, I'm just curious.
Come on.
It's been kind of meta, but I'd do it.
That's a good idea.
Yeah?
That's a billion dollar.
It's a teenager who then turns into a teenager
who's just slightly older.
He's like 15 and he turns 17?
He turns into a 16 year old.
Oh, okay.
He's a 15 year old and he goes into a corner
and it's like, ah! And then he comes out and turns into a 16 year old. He's a 15 year old and he goes into corners like,
ah, and then he comes out and he's a 16 year old.
He can legally drive but doesn't know how to.
Yeah, he can legally drive but he can't,
but he has the same amount of acne.
What a terrible movie.
I think it's a great movie and I've got the rights.
Okay, no one's gonna fight you.
You can have them.
Yeah.
I remember when TV shows would come out,
what you were talking about, when the new lineup.
Boy, I loved Friday nights when Wild Wild West would come on.
Huge.
Oh boy, Robert Conrad and Ross Martin who played.
Yep, Ross Martin.
Artemis Gordon.
Artemis Gordon.
Yeah.
King Kong versus.
We left that open for you, so I didn't take it.
What, really?
No, I don't know.
How about Gigo? Nobody knows the movie Gigo, I don't know. How about Gigo?
Nobody knows the movie Gigo.
I don't know.
Jackie Gleason, Jackie Gleason.
He plays a mute dead, kind of a village idiot.
Oh, it's great.
First movie I ever cried at.
Oh, I get it.
It's heartbreaking.
I'm crying hearing about it.
That's, you're mentioning a bunch of movies
that had a huge impact that I don't know.
You'll know this one, Jason and the Argonauts.
Yes. All that Ray Harryhausen that I don't know. You'll know this one, Jason and the Argonauts. Yes, of course.
All that Ray Harryhausen stop motion stuff.
Yeah.
Magical day, magical day.
Vertigo did see the first run of Vertigo.
Maybe my favorite Hitchcock movie, speaking of Hitchcock.
You know Vertigo?
I don't, it's not my favorite.
Really?
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Bernard Herrmann does the score,
wonderful music from that.
But why don't you like Vertigo?
I didn't say I didn't like it,
I just have the Hitchcock films.
What's your favorite Hitchcock?
Wow, it's gotta be Psycho.
I also like Strangers on a Train.
Oh, that's yesteryear, yeah.
That's interesting.
Farley Granger.
Farley Granger was in that.
I met Farley Granger.
You can't just say a name twice
and have it have more impact.
Yes you can. Farley Granger. Farley Granger. Farley Granger. You can't just say a name twice and have it have more impact. Yes you can.
Farley Granger.
Farley Granger.
Farley Granger.
I think he's proven that he can.
It would be great if you,
I think you'd be a great prosecuting attorney
because you'd say, you know,
the killer is of course Steve Miller.
Steve Miller!
And people would be like, well, he's gotta be guilty.
He said his name twice.
Steve Miller from the band?
Yeah.
Well, I just threw a name out there.
Oh. Yeah.
That's a common name.
He's not suspicious in any way.
He's the gangster of love.
He's gotta be guilty.
Oh, God.
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
I stand by that.
What were we talking about?
Oh yeah, what were we talking about?
Whose name?
You were listing.
Oh, Farley Granger.
Yeah.
You know who introduced me to Farley Granger?
Shelly Winters, whom I met on this movie called Next Stop Grange Village
that Paul Mazarski directed in 1975.
Right, I came out here and we were kind of palsy.
Shelly Winters.
Lovely woman.
She was lovely.
Wow, what did she win?
She was on our show in the early years and I loved her
because I knew her mostly from Poseidon Adventure.
I know that one.
That's fantastic.
You know, she was in the Poseidon Adventure,
but she was also in Lolita. She's great in Lolita. Oh, that's fantastic. You know, she was the, in the Beside of You, but she was also in Lolita.
She's great in Lolita.
Yes, oh she's great in Lolita.
She's great in Place in the Sun
with Montgomery Clifton and Liz Taylor.
Spectacular.
Hey, did you ever meet Liz Taylor?
I did not meet Liz Taylor, no.
I knew Liz Taylor.
Oh really?
What was she like?
Spectacular, spectacular.
She, yeah, she was one of those people,
there's a, it all depends on when you get into show business
and I, you know, you need to get in at the, I missed,
you know, I shouldn't say that.
I got to meet all these amazing people who then passed away.
It makes me sound like a killer.
I met them and then they were gone.
Suspicious, eh?
But before that, but I will say that,
you know, there are all these great stars
that passed away, you know, before I came along in 93.
And you think of, you know, all the great,
so many great stars from the, she had not passed away,
but refused to take my calls, Elizabeth Taylor.
Yeah.
Wisely, very wisely.
Don't blame her.
No.
Right, who were you talking, oh, so, Shelley Winters,
who was in Place in the Sun,
and also what did she win the Oscar for,
as supporting actress, as they were called in those days?
What did she win for?
She won for.
Why did you become an evil German scientist?
What did she win for?
What did she win for?
You will tell us what she won. Just let me, you will tell us, but she won't.
Just let me, you will not leave until you tell us
what Shirley Winter's been for.
Supporting actress, Heidi Schauschleitner,
Kleinschlag, Lohenstein, Sleetnag.
What was it?
Very good.
Patch of Blue. Oh, good. Patch of blue.
Patch of blue with Elizabeth Hartman and Sydney Poitier.
The prisoner says, patch of blue and he goes, ah!
Okay, you can go.
You're the first.
I'm putting that down because I...
You can go.
Did you park in our lot, because we validate?
Yeah, I did.
Okay, well.
The guy completely loses his fervor.
Patch of blue.
Oh, okay.
So you go out the way you came.
Just take the elevator.
I'm crying.
Do you want me to validate that?
Very good. Yeah, I'm adding Patch of Blue,
because I'd forgotten it,
because we saw Lilies of the Field,
and guess who's coming to dinner,
all in the Sidney Poitier category, in any case.
So, Shelley Winters took me to Mousseau and Franks
for the first time.
Oh my God, that is the ultimate experience.
Me and her and Farley Granger.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Yep. Wow. She said, get the Sand Dabs. Sand Dabs, they're knownanger. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yep.
Wow.
She said, get the sand dabs.
Sand dabs, they're known for their sand dabs.
Nobody else served sand dabs.
You know what the fish is?
Sand dabs?
Edmuso Franks, you can get the sand dabs.
What is it?
A fish, kind of a fish.
It's not a fish that you get.
It's been fried often.
Fried, the fried sand dabs, kind of a soul,
a variation of soul, I do believe.
Wow.
I just, those, I mean, I live for those experiences.
I live for the idea that you would see an iconic star
in a restaurant and you would end up hanging out with them.
Someone you grew up watching on TV.
I was at some restaurant once
and Warren Beatty was at another table
and the next thing you know, I got invited over
and I'm sitting with Warren Beatty and at another table, and the next thing you know, I got invited over, and I'm sitting with Warren Beatty,
and he's, I mean, Bonnie and Clyde was such a huge deal
to me.
I saw it first run with my family.
Yeah, and then I'm sitting there with him,
and I just can't believe it.
I'm supposed to play it cool, but then you can't,
because it's too big a moment, just too big.
Totally amazing.
Splendor in the Grass, even before Bonnie and Clyde,
my parents and I went to, we were in New York City,
and I think we went to Radio City Music Hall,
saw the Rockettes, and saw Splendor in the Grass
with him and I think maybe Natalie Wood.
Yeah, amazing.
I saw the Rockettes, but I was 50 yards away,
I was in shrubbery.
Oh, god.
Just peering at them. Oh, god. Just peering at them.
Oh, god.
Such a creep.
Ugh.
Up in the catwalk.
Ugh.
Ugh.
Ugh.
Ugh.
I'm the only guy that watches the Rockettes
from a distance.
Yeah.
Peering through footage.
You know, you can buy a ticket
in the first row. I know.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, I have my own way.
I like to do it.
Doesn't do anything for me.
Yeah.
I gotta wait till all of them come out together
into that field, and I'll be behind those shrubs over there.
What?
How are you gonna get them all out here?
What about Salt Lick?
We'll get them out there.
Salt Lick!
You lit up.
Look, I have to wrap this up.
No, you mustn't.
I beg you.
I beg you.
Yeah, but Dreamy expects a five hour podcast.
We can do this, it's okay.
Okay, we'll do it.
We all need to be rehydrated.
No, I just want to it's
My god, I want to get the word out and because this podcast
I'm not gonna brag you can brag a lot of people hear this podcast 43 million. I believe is the
Ship is the what don't Hawaii alone. And so what I'm saying, that's just on Maui
Listen five times. Yeah, I read 43 million.
Very successful.
It's not for me to say.
Let's not fact check that.
It's 43 million.
It's just to say, yeah, no reason to look into it.
But the point is a lot of people hear it.
And so when I say Jurassic World Dominion,
Jurassic World Dominion is coming out
and that you are reprising your role as Dr. Ian Malcolm,
that is going to pack the theaters alone.
That alone.
That's big.
No one else would watch it otherwise.
I appreciate you saying that.
Because that's what they've sent me.
That's what I represent.
I represent a lovely company of investors and people.
All right, let's not turn this into a money thing.
No, emotionally they invested.
Colin Trevara, the director.
Steven Spielberg is still atvara, the director.
Steven Spielberg is still at the top of the pyramid. Yes, Godfathering this all the way through.
Let's be honest, you are the butts in seats of this movie.
Yeah, I'm sorry, I was gonna say it.
Yeah, that's how I felt.
As much as everyone else was spectacular,
but you and one of the dinosaurs really,
I can't remember which one,
it's one of the velociraptors.
The velociraptors, come on.
It'd be great if you got everybody back
except one velociraptor held out.
It's like fuck it.
The Robert Duvall.
Yeah, I was just gonna say Robert Duvall.
Godfather 3, that's right.
Yeah, like fuck it.
You meet my price or I'm not showing up.
Ha ha.
That's right.
Can I just take a second to share my notes
for this episode of the podcast?
Yes.
Yes.
Perfection, erotic, ideal.
Yep.
Wow.
That was just what it was.
Wow.
That really was.
Yeah, I got to, we should do,
I have, we have many more hours of fun to have.
You have to come back because my time with you is,
I'm gonna be sincere, and it's hard for me to do that,
but you're one of my favorite people, you really are.
And I just absolutely love talking to you
and it is whenever we're together,
whether it's been on the show or this podcast,
it is unlike any other experience I have
and it means a lot to me.
And so when I heard that you were gonna come in
and inaugurate our new studio, my head blew up.
It exploded.
Well, me too.
I've been looking forward to this terrifically,
and these are my favorite.
These are peak experiences for me,
and people come up to me on the street anecdotally
and say, you and Conan, you and Conan, you and Conan.
See, we gotta do something.
They do, well, I think so too.
I've been screen tested, and apparently it's not good it won't be a
film but maybe an animated project something where my face is mostly
hidden and you're singing authentically a lot I like that and I just saw a a
documentary about or some kind of thing about talk show,
the history of talk shows and the current,
did you see this one?
There are many of them.
I don't watch those.
I love them all.
And this one particularly said,
here's why amongst the current crop
in the last few decades, Conan O'Brien reigns supreme.
He's cracked the code and why he's at the pinnacle
of what this needs to be right now, et cetera,
et cetera.
Well, are you uncomfortable?
No, I'm not uncomfortable.
I just don't believe that that exists.
They're talking about this Conan O'Brien?
It's an Irish Conan O'Brien.
This guy makes a very good case for exactly why.
It's a very erudite and...
There is a guy named Conrad O'Riott in Dublin who's huge.
And he's really cracked the code.
That's very cool.
Well, it's true, it's true, it's true.
Well, Jeff.
And you all together, I mean, I'm really starting
to strike with all of you.
Oh, come on.
Stop it!
You have cold blue.
Moffsesion.
You pronounced my name right.
Moffsesion, there should be a perfume,
not Obsession, but Moffsesion.
Oh!
Yes!
I'm wearing the new ob, mowsessian.
What are you wearing?
Oh my god, it's gonna smell like garlic.
Yeah, it's gonna smell.
Ew.
And gorely, and gorely.
Is it, how do you say, what's that vowel exactly?
Is it?
Gore.
Gore, like gore, like gore.
Gorely.
Gorely.
Yeah, although when I went to Ireland,
they said it's girly.
Ah, girly.
Is it really?
Yeah.
Well, they were just saying, you seem kind of girly.
Yeah, I think so.
Ah, you seem girly to me.
I said it's girly.
No, it's girly.
Oh, trust me.
We saw you walking down the street, and it was girly.
Well, you two, you three have made me very, very happy
for many hours.
You will continue to be.
You have delighted us, and you're coming back.
I want to.
I want to, along with, you know, I've seen every single Schlansky.
Oh my God.
Every single Schlansky.
Boo.
Really?
Really?
I laugh out loud over and over again.
I see them multiple times.
No, no, and it's all true.
That's the one thing.
I've been in the darkest regions,
darkest, most remote corners of the world,
and people will literally come out from behind the rock
and say, Schlansky, is he being real?
And I'll go, yes, he's being real!
And then they go back under the rock.
You're never funnier when he's driving you mad.
It's just great, great, great, great.
Well, anyway. You know what?
I could go on.
Mr. Goldblum, Mr. Jeff Goldblum,
you're the finest man that ever lived.
Conan Christopher O'Brien. My God. Yes, you're the finest man that ever lived. Conan Christopher, O'Brien.
Yes, you are the finest man that's ever lived.
No, you're better.
Yeah. Sorry.
I'm taking you to a sizzler.
Let's go.
Langoustino, Langoustinos.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
Oh my God.
Oh God.
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Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. But Jeff Goldblum came in here, he is just an energy field.
He is calming but also innervating at the same time.
He electrifies, solidifies, there's no compromise.
I have real nice thighs.
He's absolutely, no, no, he's incredible.
He does it.
He's one of my, I gotta say.
And I was really looking forward to seeing him today
and then to see how happy he was to see you,
Matt Gorley, and you, Sonam Avsesi.
He knew you as people.
He didn't-
As human beings.
Yeah, and you know, a lot of celebrities,
they come in and they're like,
oh my God, it's Conan, it's Conan,
oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
I've never heard that.
I've never heard anybody say, oh my God, it's Conan.
I know, I keep trying to get them to say it.
I have a cue card I hold up.
I think Cato Kaelin was the only one.
Cato Kaelin was said it, yeah, but he was testifying.
That's not funny.
But anyway, no.
Murders.
Please, murder.
When time passes, murders are okay.
Okay.
To laugh about.
Anyway, my point is that, you know,
he saw me as a human being, not as some godlike creature.
And he was so thrilled to see you guys as well.
Oh man, he's a human electrolyte.
He just gives you energy, like you were saying.
And we know that he listens to all these segments and stuff.
So this is as much for him, how much we loved him.
Jeff, we absolutely love you.
We know that he listens to the podcast,
so unless he's an incredible con artist
who paid someone to listen,
because he said, I can't listen to that crap.
Oh no, no.
No, unless he paid someone to listen and take notes.
We could put a test in there.
Jeff, if you're listening this, to prove it,
come over to my house and watch some James Bond movies.
Oh, Nat, that got sad, quick.
Just please come over.
Yeah, I know.
Okay, that's better.
Do you have friends?
Oh, God, no.
You don't?
No, not a one.
That just occurred to me.
I don't know if you have friends
and you have people that you podcast with
and you shuttle from place to place.
Podcasting with people you may not really know well
on a human level, but do you have friends that come over
and do the things that you like to do?
Yeah, I'm a human being.
Well, I don't know.
I've never heard you reference a friend.
Do you really think he didn't have any friends?
I don't know.
You know that I have friends.
Well, now Jeff Goldblum's my friend,
so I do have a friend.
Oh, well, now I'm not sure either.
Huh, you're not sure?
Jeff, come on, let's prove these knuckleheads wrong.
Your friends are all people you saw on TV and movie
when you were kids in your mind.
I'm ET.
Hey, last night I had dinner with Gumby.
Gumby?
This is supposed to be a Jeff Goldblum praise session.
Yeah, that's true.
I love him so much.
Yeah.
He doesn't have to know who we are, me and Matt,
and he does, and that says a lot about him. Let me ask you a question. Ladies love that man.
Love him.
And I understand because, you know, again, we have a similar frame.
Okay, don't do that. Don't do that.
I don't understand.
Before you go down that road, you said like, not.
No, I can handle it. I can handle it. Why is it that there's a fork in the road?
Confidence. Swagger.
Yeah. Ease. Why is it that there's a fork in the road? Confidence, swagger, ease.
You know how at a time,
Porsche and Volkswagen had the same engine?
That's the difference.
That's what time is.
It's also, it's like, he's chill.
No, I can handle it.
I really wanna know.
He is a chill person who seems very comfortable in his skin
and very confident, not that you're not,
but it seems like he's been that way
much longer than you have.
I feel like you went through a very awkward phase
where you were like, oh, I don't like myself.
No.
Was that, that was, that was me.
No, but what I'm saying is that it does amaze me
that he does have something that I wish I had
that I don't have.
Oh, me too.
You know, and I'm being completely honest,
he has, he does have an ease
and he's always in the center, he's always centered.
I think that's incredible to be centered
like that all the time.
And he's like a tuning fork
that's perfectly vibrating with the universe.
And I feel like I'm a, you know, like a-
You're just a fork.
Yeah, like a fork that was eating clams,
but someone didn't wash it afterwards
and then it fell in some sand.
And it's got some clam juice and sand on it.
That's pretty good, yeah.
Do you think we like him because he's nice to us?
Maybe if you tried being nice to me and Matt,
then we would like, mom, maybe still not then.
You get a paycheck, right?
That's not being nice to someone. You get a paycheck, right? That's not being nice to someone.
You get a paycheck.
I'm your employee.
That doesn't mean you're nice to me.
It's kind of worse because it's like you're paying her
to be belligerent.
The fact that you even thought about.
Do you do okay with me?
I do, yeah, I do.
Would you say that, I mean, are there a lot of other people
just sending you money besides me?
Nobody else is.
Okay, then I'm a good guy and I'm your friend.
No, you can't do it.
That doesn't sound how nice this works.
It's not transaction.
What are you talking about?
Jeff Goldblum asks nothing and gives everything.
You are transaction.
Do you get a paycheck from?
Why are you pointing at me?
You're missing the point.
You profit from me as well.
In a roundabout way I do, yes.
In a roundabout way.
Full disclosure.
Okay, I didn't realize you were just here on a voluntary basis.
No, I've seen you driving, since the podcast blew up
and suddenly you're driving a Bentley.
No.
Yes, you're driving a Bentley on,
just on Hollywood Boulevard.
Yeah.
You know, and-
Classic girls.
Yeah, and whoa, your license plate's suddenly Pod King.
And you're driving around?
You guys have both-
Pod King is seven levels.
And your kids wear these like crazy satin outfits
that you have handmade for them now
that the podcast blew up.
And so both of you have,
your lives have been changed by knowing me,
which means you have to like me.
You have to.
You know that's not how it works.
It should work that way.
You can't buy friendship.
That's not how it works.
Yes you can.
No you can't. That's why I moved to Los Angeles. You can. way. You can't buy friendship. That's not how it works. Yes, you can. No, you can't.
That's why I moved to Los Angeles.
You can.
No.
You can.
Sona and I are friends.
All of my friends.
I genuinely like my friends.
All of my friends work for me.
And I'm very comfortable with that
because if any of them piss me off,
I can terminate that friendship very easily.
I wonder why we like Jeff Goldblum more than you.
I still don't understand it.
He's my favorite tall person,
and he just exudes this sense of ease,
and you know what, he doesn't have to pay me
for me to like him, and that says a lot.
This is interesting, I have to look more into this.
Into friendship?
Into the concept of being nice.
He leads with love, you lead with fear.
Yes. Yes.
No, that's not good. Stalin did that. Yeah, I know. He controlled, love, you lead with fear. Yes. Yes. No, that's not good.
Stalin did that.
Yeah, I know.
He controlled, I mean. Stalin.
Stalin, Joseph Stalin.
Oh, so now we're gonna rip on Joseph Stalin.
You know, I love how there's no sacred cows anymore.
Everybody gets torn down.
Everybody gets torn down.
Not Jeff Goldblum. And now it's Joseph Stalin.
Jeff Goldblum.
Jesus, no one's safe in this hypersensitive era.
Jeff Goldblum is an angel.
He's an absolute angel.
He's such a sweet person.
He might be an alien.
He might be the best man.
We should stick the landing on this.
He is such an unusually, he's an unusual person.
There's no one else quite like him.
And I do have to tell you that when I, in my travels,
people always bring up to me,
oh my God, I love it when Jeff Goldblum is on the podcast
or he's on the show.
He brings an energy that immediately transforms
the experience.
I think we all are changed by him when we're in his,
he creates like a biosphere, a Jeff Goldblum biosphere
that's very enjoyable.
Yeah.
Yeah, and he remembers everybody.
He's just, he like, when he looks at you,
he looks at you and he knows your name
and he remembers you and that goes a long way.
I don't, again, I have a list of all the employees.
I can consult them. Oh, God. I don't think you even know again, I have a list of all the employees I can consult with.
Oh, God.
I don't think you even know my name.
I can go to Jeff Ross now.
I don't need to.
You do need to.
All I have to do is go to Jeff Ross or Adam Sachs
and say, the guy with the, you know,
he's kind of a hipster and he lives in Pasadena.
And they'll be like, yeah, Matt Gorley.
And I'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, tell him I wished him a happy Christmas.
I gotta get out of here.
My helicopter's waiting.
It's me.
Wait, what?
Yeah, my helicopter's waiting.
That's your helicopter.
Oh God, your helicopter is ill.
Yeah.
Wait, how does the helicopter?
No, but mine is different. Mine runs on pure malice. It's very eco-friendly.
It's also super pervy somehow.
Wow! Mr. Brian, you must really hate people today.
We've got 600,000 miles.
I just get in it and000 miles. Oh my God. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I just get in it and put an electrode on my head.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Flies behind it.
Who are you mad at?
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it leaves a noxious cloud of just pure bad intent
behind me. Metaphorically,
that's what's going on here.
All right, well anyway, Jeff Goldblum,
if you're listening right now,
naked in the lotus position as you meditate,
as he does every night, we love you.
We do. We love you.
See you next week at my house for James Bond.
Okay. Oh man.
Let's cut it there.
Oh.
Okay.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Ha, ha, ha.
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