Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend - Oatmeal Milk

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

Conan talks to Mustafa from the Philippines about training to be an action star, practicing the art of Zanshin, and how to get through a high-stakes action scene. Wanna get a chance to talk to Conan?... Submit here: teamcoco.com/apply Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/conan.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Conan O'Brien needs a fan. Want to talk to Conan? Visit teamcoco.com slash call Conan. Okay, let's get started. Hey. Hi, Mustafa. Welcome to Conan O'Brien needs a fan. Hey, Mustafa.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Hey, Conan. Oh my God. So now Conan, Matt, Conan, I'm being a fan boy right now. Thank you for inviting me here. Well, of course. We're very happy to meet you, Mustafa. Tell us, where are you right now? I'm in Baguio City, Philippines.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Baguio City, Philippines. Where is that, say, I mean, I know where Manila is. How close are you to Manila? Because now we have a new highway. It will take you around three to four hours to reach Maggie City. Okay. If you take the highway.
Starting point is 00:00:49 If you take the highway. If you want to go through the scenic route, it will take you seven hours. Okay. What if I was hopping on one foot? Huh. Hmm. I never thought of that.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Well, you gotta think of these things, Mustafa, if you're gonna be giving people directions. Tell us a little bit about yourself, Mustafa. What are your interests? What do you like to do? Who is Mustafa? Mustafa, Mustafa. I am trying to be the Philippines' greatest action star.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Whoa. That is my goal right now. I quit my job when I was in Dubai, 10 years working for 10 years. And I said, you know what? You know what? I'm going to take a bet on myself and try to be an action star in the Philippines. Yeah. So I'm half Filipino, half Arabic and half amazing.
Starting point is 00:01:46 And I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But I had to get that out. I like this. I like that you're betting on yourself.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I like that about you. And okay, if you want to be an action star, let me ask you a question. Some action stars are martial artists. Are you trained to be a fighter? I trained to be a fighter, yes. I'm actually are martial artists. Are you trained to be a fighter? I trained to be a fighter, yes. I'm actually a martial artist. I lived a martial arts life.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I've been a martial artist ever since the age of eight. And I've been a delinquent for so long when I was younger, you know, getting into fights. Because I was born angry. I just want to fight. And I look different from typical Jordanian. I grew up in Jordan. I look Japanese, so people were constantly bullying me. And then when I went to the Philippines,
Starting point is 00:02:31 I don't look Filipino, so I was also bullied. So I got into a lot of scrapes. You know what, Mustafa, there's an old, there's a song by Johnny Cash, the singer Johnny Cash, a boy named Sue. And the whole idea is that a man names his boy Sue, and then he's picked on all of his life, but he becomes an amazing fighter
Starting point is 00:02:52 because his dad called him Sue. So what you're basically saying is, you've never felt like you fit in, so you've become an amazing fighter. Well, I don't wanna say I'm amazing fighter. I'm just, like, if you want to describe me, I am amazing at protecting my family. So that is my goal right now,
Starting point is 00:03:12 is to be amazing at protecting them. Well, that's admirable, because if trouble breaks out, I will leave my family. Thank you. Believe me, I try, I try. I will leave them to fight the bad guys, and I will take an Uber to the airport and go to a safe haven that I have prepared for myself.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Believe me, believe me, I tried, I tried, but you know, people will look at me badly, so I have to keep up the image. Yeah, see, I lost all self-respect a long time ago, so people look at me badly now. You gotta, so tell me, Yeah, see, I lost all self-respect a long time ago. So people look at me badly now. You got to... So tell me what kind of martial arts do you practice? I started with karate when I was young.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I trained in karate. I reached almost a blue belt in karate when I was young. I trained in judo and Brazilian jujitsu. I've taken also the Filipino martial arts, Arnis. I'm a silver medalist in that. And I've been training in boxing ever since 2003. And then I trained really hard to be an MMA fighter for Arabic League, but it felt good because I got injured.
Starting point is 00:04:17 But yeah, so that's okay. And I might be forgetting. Let me ask you a quick question. Do you think some people practice martial arts and they only use it in the gym, but they could never incorporate it into their lives. Do you think if I jumped out and attacked you from nowhere, you'd be prepared?
Starting point is 00:04:38 As much, I hope so, as much as possible, yes. I am practicing something called zanxin. I'm not saying I am perfect at it. I'm still a as much as possible. Yes, I am practicing something called zanshin. I'm not saying I am perfect at it. I'm still a student as of now. It is basically zanshin. It means in Japanese martial arts, it's the state of relaxed alertness. So I have to always be prepared.
Starting point is 00:04:57 My body has always be prepared. My senses, I never dull my senses as much as possible when I'm outside. So I hope so, but you know. Sunshin it's called because I feel like I practice sunshin in comedy. I am, I am calm, but also always ready for any attack. Ready for a bit.
Starting point is 00:05:17 You're just ready for a bit. Or an attack. I actually believe that. Matt. I actually believe that. But I think that I am calm, but I'm constantly, I know what you're talking about, constantly aware that at any moment the calm could break
Starting point is 00:05:30 and I must be ready. Exactly, yeah. Except instead of chops, it's sarcastic aside. Yes, yes. Yeah, so it's very similar. Yeah, you're chopping, but the chopping has nothing to do with it. Tell me, what can you tell me,
Starting point is 00:05:44 because I would like to get better at fighting. Why do you laugh? That's very hurtful to me, Mustafa. You've hurt my feelings. Why would you laugh? I know Isona's laughing because she can actually see what my arms look like in person. But why are you laughing?
Starting point is 00:06:01 No, no, I'm just laughing because fighting should always be the last option, but yeah. Well, I like it. I want it to be the first option? No, no, I'm just laughing because fighting should always be the last option, but yeah. Well, I like it. I want it to be the first option. Oh no. I'd like to rent this. I'd like to take out this library book. Well, let me check.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Bam! I want it now. No, but I punch immediately. Oh, how? I do the same sometimes. Tell me about the strike. The strike is important, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:23 A strike, I like that form, yeah. A strike should always come from zero to 100. Zero to 100, like- You should never telegraph. That was like, I've measured this, this is 22 miles an hour. No. Is that bad?
Starting point is 00:06:37 That's not, yeah, it's just a saying, for example, you should never accelerate it, like, from zero to 10 to 20 20 or never telegraph your punches So it's gotta be interesting. Show me yours. I don't even have space So if you're here for example, no, no, sorry, please don't hear me I like that. I like you also play different characters. Yeah, that was really good That was really good That was a confusing scenario so I have to think I have to do what he said, right?
Starting point is 00:07:18 Wait, is this oat milk? It's not Justifiable justify I would do the same. There was nothing intimidating about what you just did. I wanted almond milk. If it was almond milk, it would be intimidating. But no, that was not intimidating at all. It's okay. You're just not that side. The only scenario I could come up with
Starting point is 00:07:38 was a guy who wanted oat milk and didn't get it. And then that's, he has to go. That's his only choice, you know? To be fair, somebody ordering oatmeal, it means he's, you know, he's ready to go for a fight. No, no, it's oatmeal. He's drinking oatmeal, right? No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:07:51 To be fair. It's not oatmeal, it's oat milk. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Now I'm gonna fight you. I thought you're drinking oatmeal, sorry, sorry. Oatmeal, that's not what I said. Ugh! That's not what I said. Ugh. ["Action Star"] ["Action Star"]
Starting point is 00:08:13 Let me ask you a question, Mustafa, because it's always good to know who the competition is. Is there a, because you want to be an action star in the Philippines. Is there an action star now? Who's the reigning action star? The top action star here in the Philippines. Is there an action star now? Who's the reigning action star? The top action star here in the Philippines, believe it or not, his name is Coco Martin. Coco Martin.
Starting point is 00:08:32 So that's, yeah. Can we look him up? Can we look up Coco Martin? Let's see this guy. And this is the guy you want to replace. He's currently, right? He's, oh my God, that's, whoa. That? Action? What?
Starting point is 00:08:45 He looks like he's from a boy band. Yeah. He is handsome. He's a good looking guy. He looks like he's here to host Extra. Extra, Extra. Oh, there's a new film coming out. Bad Boys 9 is coming out and we're gonna talk to the cast.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Wait, so that's Coco. I think you're tougher than Coco. Yeah. Thank you, thank you. It's actually, when you say that, it makes me, makes my heart, you know, on fire. I'm gonna punch somebody now. Okay, wow, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:09:17 God forbid you ever fall in love. You'll kill someone. Conan said I'm tough. Yeah, but listen, I believe in you. I think you could be an action star. I think first of all, back me up on this guys. This is a good looking guy. He's good looking, he's got it.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And guess what? You have a lot of personality and you're clearly well trained. I think you should be an action star. And also when I see the existing action star you guys have, I'm like, no, he's a weatherman in Denver. You're the guy. You're the guy.
Starting point is 00:09:50 You're the guy, Mustafa. Oh, thanks, thank you. And also, you appeal to so many different groups, you know? You come from, your ethnicity, because your ethnicity is mixed, you appeal to so many different groups. That's very cool. You were an action movie villain,
Starting point is 00:10:06 and you're the hero if we could just role play a real quickly what that would be like. This is your big chance to shine, you know? You wanna try something right now? Now let's do a scene. Let's just say, it's always revenge. So, Mustafa, you're just gonna be Mustafa, okay? But early in the film, you were hanging around
Starting point is 00:10:26 with all your pals and your buddies, and I killed all of them. Killed all of them, and you managed to get away. I thought I killed you, but you got away, and you've slowly been killing everyone in my entourage. And finally, you break into the room where I am, okay? And action. Oh! Conan-huh. And action. Oh!
Starting point is 00:10:47 Conan, I finally found you. Okay, okay, let's try that again. You go first and do exactly what you just did and action. Conan, I finally found you. Mustafi, I was told you were dead! Well, I'm not dead because I drink oatmeal milk. Is it correct, oatmeal? I never drank that.
Starting point is 00:11:09 It's correct. It's correct. You just dropped character to find out whether it was oatmeal milk or oatmeal, which now makes you much less frightening to me. Sorry, sorry, Connor. Sorry, Connor. I like to go with that one.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Mustafa, I did fear you when you burst, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry,
Starting point is 00:11:32 sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry Today is the day you die because my fists go from zero to eighteen miles an hour in four minutes And I'm going to beat you to death. What do you think of that Mustafa? I? Think The name of the film is bring it you just look at me and you say, bring it.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Conan, bring it. Yes. All right, I go to hit you, you block, right? Block me, yes! Then, thank you for the, that's a great sound effect. Thank you. I'm gonna keep trying to strike you, you keep blocking and Matt, you make the sound effects.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Okay. Conan, no! Pshh! I hate your oatmeal milk! Stop with the oatmeal milk! You never! It was a simple misunderstanding over Zoom! You white!
Starting point is 00:12:36 I told you you should drink regular milk! Who drinks that kind of milk, Conan? Pshh! I'm black coach intolerant! You killed my friends because of that! Perfect! The only thing I can do is switch to... Shut the...
Starting point is 00:12:47 What was that? That was the sound of your biceps. Oh, okay. So then you do one roundhouse kick where you twirl around and you knock my head off my body. Mustafa, do it! Okay, but I'm sitting down so I'm gonna do it via chair. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Yeah. Sorry, Tony. I got to return to the outside. I dropped my earphones and everything. So yeah, I got a picture right now. Thanks a lot, Tony, for making me do this. So yeah, technical difficulty, guys. Sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I love that. I love that. When we shoot this scene, Mustafa, and I do hope we shoot this scene, we're gonna figure out a way that your character falls into an office chair. Yeah. And then has to do a roundhouse kick, okay?
Starting point is 00:13:37 Maybe you catch me and I'm in an office supply store. Yeah, that's good. Wow, that was really funny. I love that. I think I'm telling you 100% God's Honest Truth, you have charisma, all the best action fighters, I mean, sorry, all the best action heroes also can be funny, do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:56 Dwayne The Rock Johnson is really funny. A lot of these guys are funny and they can play the comedy too and I think you can do that. But I think you've got what it takes, I really do. Conan, Conan, no joking, you are really my idol. I really look up to you, and you saying that really humbles me,
Starting point is 00:14:14 I'm very grateful for that. When you say I'm your idol, do you mean as a fighter and a physical specimen? No, actually to be honest, as a comedic genius and as a person, I idolize you. Ever since you were young, ever since I was young. Well, you know what? That's a very sweet thing to say, Mustafa.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And I am going to get in amazing shape because I'd like to meet you. And I, listen, if I can make you an action star in the Philippines, first of all, I would participate, I think financially. Maybe we could work something out. Right? Okay, I can be paid by oatmeal.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Okay, enough with that! I won't be mopped on my own show. I will not be mopped! Lifetime supply. Sorry, Corona, I love you that I love you. Okay, well listen, I'm very excited about this guy. I think you've got a lot of charisma and talent and I'm honored to meet you.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I'm really honored to meet you. And I've never been to the Philippines. I have a friend, a close friend who's from the Philippines and he always wants me to try. And he says, if I go to the Philippines, I should eat balot. Do you like balot? Oh, I can't try everything,
Starting point is 00:15:25 but balot, I die whenever I eat that. Every time I eat it, I eat it. For one second, I'm in heaven, and I see all the, like I see Jesus Christ, and I go, whew, what did I just eat? Wow. So it's like a communion way for you. So you really like balot.
Starting point is 00:15:41 What is it? Balot is an egg, like a boiled egg, but they've let the little baby grow a little bit inside the chick. So when you bite into it, there's a little crunch of tendons. Little beak? You get a little beak, you get a little, yes, this is something that they eat in the Philippines.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And guess what? Every culture is different and people love it, right? People love balong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, I'm not here to disrespect anyone, but I cannot eat it. Like, the taste is OK, but the texture and you see the... The crunching and then you know what it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And sometimes it's old enough to go, please no, cheap, cheap. Oh. Don't help me, please. Cheap, no, cheap, cheap, cheap. That's the bird. I just think it's alive, cheep. Oh. Don't hurt me, please. Cheep, cheep, no, cheep, cheep, cheep. That's the bird. I just think it's alive, but yeah. That's your imagination. You'll be like imagining it.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Maybe it survived and it's just like, I could still, okay, I'm kinda cooked, but I could still grow. Cheep, cheep. Too much? I'm kinda toasty. Cheep, cheep, no, no, okay, that bite hurt and I lost half my body but it's still alive.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Jeep, Jeep. Ah. There is your cone, I got it. Jeep, Jeep, Jeep. Like that, yeah, yeah. I can't even touch. Listen, maybe I went too far. You never know, Mustafa.
Starting point is 00:16:53 You never know in my business because I too am always aware and ready to go in any direction at any time with any movement. Too far. Or not quite far enough. Mustafa, I wish you well, I really do. And I hope we get to make that action movie
Starting point is 00:17:12 someday together, I think that'd be a lot of fun. Thank you, Connor, thank you. Thank you for giving me the chance to talk to you. It's a dream come true. Sona, Matt, it's an honor to meet you guys. And I will cherish this for the rest of my life. And if you're in the Philippines, I would gladly have you here and please visit the Philippines. You'll have fun here I think I would I can't wait. I want to do it. Yeah, I really do our fight scene together
Starting point is 00:17:33 We're gonna do our fight scene and I'm gonna I'm gonna work out for the first time in my life Mustafa you take care be well and I hope to see you soon. Hope to see you soon as well Thank you everyone for inviting me. It's a great honor. Thank you. Have a nice day. Take care. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye. Conan O'Brien needs a fan. With Conan O'Brien, Sonam Avsesian, and Matt Gourley.
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