Congratulations with Chris D'Elia - 289. I Love You - David Sullivan Part 2
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Runk. You are a great guy and you've really, you know, you're a good person.
And, you know, I'm lucky to know you and shit.
And I do keep people in my circle now that i really
care about and um you know i love you bro i love you too yeah does that make you feel weird when i
say i love you not at all so uh all right so if you say i love you to me and then I say I love you too, does that make you feel weird?
No.
Okay.
That's fairly new for me, though.
To not feel weird doing that?
Yeah, because, you know, masculine, like I'm an alpha, you're an alpha.
I'm an alpha.
I mean, you're like an alpha beta.
You're an alpha beta.
We can kind of wink.
I'm kind of, yeah.
And we're not really taught to love our friends's not we're not really taught to love our
friends like we're not really taught to say i love you and i mean and not be like weird about it you
know but yeah i've become more comfortable doing that in the last few years because you know i'm
i'm i'm three or four years older than you two or three years older and i'm i'm losing people and i don't you
mean they're dying yeah yeah and and and i i love so many people but i don't spend the time to make
to let them know that because a lot of times i'm like well if i tell them that like i don't know
how they're gonna react to it and i don't want to make them feel like they have to say i love you
back or like why is he calling me out of the blue just to tell me that he loves me like that's weird
is everything okay like is he sick i gotta want to alarm people but
like i've known you long enough and and the people around me that i've just gotten used to saying
that i've just gotten used to saying man i love you because i i do and and i want you to know that
and i want the people close to me to know that and how long have you been doing that just a couple
the last few years i think right before the pandemic and you're saying it doesn't make you feel weird
it doesn't anymore because i what what made me feel weird early on is like oh how is that
gonna make them feel or how is that how are they gonna perceive me like am i do they think that i
like i said do they think i'm sick or do they think i'm i'm being a bitch or whatever but like i don't care what they think as long as they know that i'm sending this to them hey i love
you and you don't have to say it back you don't even have to respond to my text or my email or
whatever but i just want you to know that um it makes me feel good it makes me feel good to send
a uh send something to someone not necessarily i love you but something meaningful or grateful or
whatever without thinking well are they going to respond like are they gonna how come they haven't
called me back i that's not why i'm doing it i'm doing it because i think it's important to let
them know how i feel about them yeah i tell people that has to be you do i do but that's fairly new
though right some uh i think with any sort of friendship
and saying
I love you,
it doesn't make me feel weird to say it.
It does make me feel sometimes
bunched up to
look in
your eyes or to
really, if you say it and I say it,
then that's a full connection.
And because it's so real and I like to like keep my walls up or,
you know,
I'm,
I'm trying to not so much anymore and I've done a lot of fucking therapy and
shit,
but like to not do that is tough because I think it's kind of the same.
It comes from the same thing as like
sitting alone and being with yourself is just it can be uncomfortable if you're confronting
feelings yeah and um so it's a little bit uh it's a little bit yeah it does make me feel a certain
way it's not like bad and i you, you know, it's weird too,
because like my family, like growing up,
like my dad and my mom would always tell me they love me.
It's not like a, you know.
So I don't know where along the way I picked that up.
Did you ever do it to your,
you didn't say it to your friends.
I mean.
I did, yeah.
But yeah, I kind of always have,
but maybe not in my twenties,
but like in my thirties I would do it
because I was like dude i do
love them but i would spend time thinking like you know we all have sometimes thoughts where it's
just like why did i think of that but like i would think of like okay like i remember there were times
where i would spend thinking like what is it like to miss someone like what is it like to miss someone? Like, what does it mean to miss someone? Like, does it mean.
I get that.
Does it mean you want to see them again?
Yeah.
Does it mean that you feel like it's been too long
and there's an actual like yearning you have to be with them?
And I remember thinking like, I don't know what it's like
to actually maybe miss someone.
Yeah.
You know, like when I was in, you know, I was in college for eight months or when I'm on the road.
Like, do I miss like exes that I've had?
Would I miss being away from them?
Most of the time it was, the answer was no.
You know, and I would say it, but i didn't know how that felt or what that meant
and i think it's probably because i didn't let people in you know 100 i kept them at an arm's
length yep so i didn't have i couldn't develop missing somebody because i never really let them
in to love them yeah and now i think well first of all i think having my son just opened me the
fuck up i mean i was talking about it to my therapist and and i was like telling her a
version of this about how i keep people at a distance and walls up and shit and she was like
oh you're fucked now that you have calvin she literally said, and I was like, yeah, you're right. And I laughed because I am not the kind of person
that can be away from my son and not,
there are people that can just have kids
and not really be the type of person
that is fit to be a dad, but I am.
And I didn't know that, but it turns out I am.
And now with Calvin, I miss him.
I actually feel what it's like to miss him.
And because of that, it opens up my world to love
and being around other people and actually loving them
and connecting with them.
And I do miss them now.
I know what it feels like to miss someone but i don't feel like i did until i until the past few years and i i think calvin
has a huge reason is a huge reason because i don't think it's all of it but you know i've
obviously done a lot of work on myself and shit but like it's it's a really wild fantastic thing to feel and and and
what's hard about it is it actually hurts yeah like you you develop this love and you develop
this realness and this you know people would always say like what's the what's the meaning
of life and i always that's that's such a to me it's like that doesn't even mean anything right it's like saying why is the sky blue and it also doesn't
matter like we're all just on here we're doing what we're doing but now if if to be somebody
that feels this and and to love some people and and on the other hand there's there's miss there's
there's when you lose somebody yeah you know that hurts so fucking bad yeah and i don't i don't like that like i've
i've had friends that i don't have anymore and it fucking it hurts so bad dude it hurts so bad
and i know what that feels like and dude i called my last special no pain because I wasn't
letting myself love. I wasn't letting myself be open to that. And so I never felt pain.
And now you're forced to feel pain because I have a family, because there's ups and downs.
And now I love my friends and, um. And it doesn't always feel good.
And people say like, oh yeah, but that's what life's about.
You can't live unless you feel all of those emotions.
And if you're going to ask me what's better, I guess it's better to feel the love.
Because it's fuller.
It's like you can keep eating Skittles and candy and shit, but you got to eat fucking actual real food. Otherwise you're just going to feel like shit eventually. And, um, and that's tougher, you know, and you have to're making yourself work stuff out like for the longest time again like you lived a life where you were rewarded by your disconnecting
and as long as long as i'm making these people laugh like i'm doing my job like i'm fulfilling
what whatever it is in my mind that i'm supposed to be doing with my life and you're rewarded for
that so why would you do anything different because when you go through those feelings or
you allow yourself to process those things you're not being rewarded it hurts and it's like you're sitting there why am i
crying in my bedroom like this doesn't feel good but it's just it's so much more fulfilling yeah
and that was a good you said full you feel so much more full yeah the more you allow yourself to to
sit in those those um in that discomfort the outside of your comfort zone the more you're
going to grow and the more love you're going to have for the
people around you, because your life is just going to be more full.
You're going to have more things that are like, Oh,
I'm glad I experienced that. I didn't think I would.
I didn't think I'd like the color me mind, but like you did.
And you're like, that's a feeling that you've never had before.
And how cool is that?
Like now you're going to have that feeling when you're doing something else.
You're like, Oh, I know what, I know this feeling like this.
I didn't know this feeling before. And now it's here and i don't have to like push it
away or be scared of it or like make jokes about it like this is kind of nice i don't know man it's
it's exciting for me i mean i i i missed you like you know i i when we weren't speaking for a while
like i missed you and i didn't feel like i could tell you that. And you said that you've lost so many friends and you miss them. What would it be like
if you told them that? I mean, uh, I have, you know, I have some, some of them. Um, and some
of them, I just, I guess I haven't, but you know, I mean, look, although in this life you, you,
you live, you know, you, you, you meet people, you love people,
and they fall out of your life,
and then sometimes they come back,
and then this and that.
And we always fucking liked each other
and loved each other,
and you were in Texas for a bit.
And when that happens, then you kind of like,
all right, you text, and then you stop texting,
and then you're like, oh.
And yeah, I don't't know life's a fucking
long time though huh like it's like i'm 42 now and um i i thought for a while i would never have
kids and shit changes you know and it's uh and it's all hopefully for the better unless you know
somebody gets hit by a fucking train but keep telling people you love them yeah and look them
in the eye when you say you don't know you also you also you don't want to be that annoying spiritual guy that's always walking around like telling people that you love them. Yeah. And look them in the eye when you say it. But you don't know. Also, you don't want to be that annoying spiritual guy that's always walking around like telling
people that you love them and shit.
Dude, nobody's going to think that about you.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
Because you're not that guy.
That's true.
That's true.
Like sometimes we think that people are going to think things about us.
Yeah.
Like wait, we're not giving them any credit at all.
Right.
Right.
Like nobody would be like, you're lean.
Right?
Nobody would say you're lean.
Nobody would think you're lean?
You.
No, you're pretty lean.
Nobody would be like I am, but nobody would be like, you're lean, right? Nobody would say you're lean. Nobody would think you're lean? You. No, you're pretty lean. Nobody would be like I am, but nobody would be like, you're handsome as all get out.
No, dude, you're handsome.
You.
No, I am handsome.
You look better with a mustache.
I never ever understood that about people.
Mustaches are weird.
I don't look better with a mustache.
I have to pee.
Yeah, I know.
You know why?
Because you're you.
I told you we're going to have to be in the middle. And you said, no, I went before. I knew you mustache. I have to pee. Yeah, I know. You know why? Because you're you. I told you we're going to have to be in the middle.
And you said, no.
I went before.
I knew you were going to have to pee.
That's because I know you better than you know yourself.
You need to do some work on yourself.
Go pee.
Okay.
Go pee.
I'm legit good to do this by myself, dude.
Pee.
He's going to take a shit.
I know.
I know, dude.
Because he didn't eat cheese. If he ate cheese, he'd be taking a shit. I'll tell you something about it. Leave that open, too, because he's going to take a shit. I know, I know, dude, because he didn't eat cheese.
If he ate cheese,
he'd be taking a shit.
I'll tell you something about,
leave that open too
because it's so blisteringly hot.
What's that?
Yeah, it's so hot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dude, if we hear fart noises,
David honestly is great.
We're happy to have him
on this podcast.
I will tell you too,
I didn't ever want to have guests on this podcast and it's part of the reason why I to have him on this podcast. I will tell you too, I didn't ever want to have guests on this podcast. And it's part of the reason why I'm having him on this podcast is
because first of all, I talk about him a lot, but also, you know, as we're talking about like
growth and life is about change and shit, like, you know, sometimes things need to fucking be
shaken up and stirred. And I want to have him on the podcast and i've been
wanting to so fuck it i know that maybe some of you miss me just doing that solo shit but also
it's the holidays and like i feel like kind of just doing this like i've been working way too
fucking hard um like it's really been getting into my mental health um and uh you know i even
called fucking theo about it we were chatting and and and uh so you know, I even called fucking Theo about it and we were chatting and, and,
and, uh, so you, so, you know, I mean business because, uh, he's, he's Mr. Uh, Mr. I've been
working too hard and we've been talking about it.
We kind of commiserated, but also, you know, it was a good conversation.
I just fucking work so, so much.
And, um, I wanted to be kind of just, you can leave it open, you know, wanted to be,
uh, chilling, uh, and and and kind of take the mental
load off of myself just through the holiday seasons and in january we'll be back with a bang
um so that's what i've been that's what i've been doing and then i was like david could help with
that um and i'm trying to get kristin on another podcast too because i think that she would be
really great uh to do um to do the podcast with.
I may have missed this,
but why don't you have,
something new is having somebody on here.
I honestly thought that I was coming to help
because I didn't think Mako was going to be available.
You were like, hey, you want to-
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, that's hilarious.
I was like, all right,
you just got to tell me what to do.
Oh, that's funny.
You did say that.
Yeah.
No, I wanted to have you on.
You're cool with being on, right?
Yeah, of course.
Because we already did it for an hour.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wanted to have you on because're cool with being on right yeah of course we already did it for an hour yeah um and i wanted to have you on because no i was talking about because dude i feel like i've been working too hard you know yeah and you know i don't know it's
interesting because like as an actor like one of the reasons why you've been with me on the road
and you've also are able available right now is because it's the fucking holiday seasons
and that's everything slows the fuck down in holly It's weird. And if you're not on something that is going to be three months in New Zealand,
which is something that you've done,
then you're just going to be kind of waiting.
Like as an actor, if I didn't have tour dates,
you would just wait from literally the week before Thanksgiving
to January 12th.
It's after Sundance.
It's usually at the end
of january because sundance is like the end of january it's like the 15th through the 25th
so usually yeah yeah it's till the end of january hollywood's just like done
like what it sucks it's literally two months it does so um so so that's one of the reasons why
you know you've been on the road and shit because you're
just like yeah i'll just wait till the fucking hollywood kicks back up again yeah um you work
a lot you were in sundance yeah how many times a few times yeah three times so primer obviously
we'll get to that but then i did a film called uh skate land oh yeah yeah and uh and then i did a
film called mad actually no that was slam dance butdance goes on at the same time. Slamdance, yeah. And I've been a handful of times, yeah.
So wait, so you were in, so there's Primer.
You can close that door now, I guess.
So Primer was the big one that, that was your intro to Hollywood.
Yeah.
I've talked about Primer before because I've talked about David Sullivan.
It's one of the best, like, I mean, and when I say one of the best, I mean and i'm when i say one of the best i mean top two or three
yeah time travel movies ever yeah um you could argue you know everyone says back to the future
sure and and primer was not on that scale right you know that was a more enjoyable film
right of course yeah primer you gotta like seriously you can't text. You don't even watch it with somebody.
Actually, it might be good because you'd be like, hold on, wait, what is going on?
It's very hard to understand, which I like because it's a fucking time travel movie.
Yeah.
Right?
And I also, one of the reasons why I love about it is it doesn't explain shit to you.
You guys are the two guys in it just trying to figure everything out yourselves.
Yeah.
And it's almost like if the audience gets it, the audience gets it that's what i like about it and i think that's
one of the reasons why it's so good thank you but so you were in this movie and this is crazy
because you were just a guy from texas yeah yeah i i was working i was working for a software
company and uh i got laid off selling jacuzzis i was um software and i got laid off. Selling jacuzzis. Software. And I got laid off and I had like a severance package and whatever.
I had money and I was like, what is it that would really make me happy?
And I spent some time and I thought about it.
It made me uncomfortable.
Yeah.
But I kind of sat in it for a while.
Right.
And I had never acted before.
I did a couple of one-act plays in high school where you're on stage for like 11 minutes
and then you tear down the set and whatever.
And I was like, man, that was so fun.
Why'd you like it?
I just like-
So weird from a software engineer.
Yeah, I just liked the idea of pretending
and I felt like I could do no wrong
because it's like, oh, I'm pretending to be somebody else.
Like I can do that.
Like if they don't like my performance,
it's like they didn't like the character I played.
It's not like they didn't like me because I was somebody else for a little bit
um and so like I I thought if there's a way that I can perform I think that would be cool so yeah
I was in Dallas and I I had a picture taken and I mailed some headshots to some casting agents and um and producers and this was i mean this was what 2000
yeah this was like 2000 2001 and uh it was a black and white picture that a guy had taken for me and
then wow yeah the director i met him at a starbucks and we uh we just read he brought a few pages yeah
shane um and he was like what are you doing tomorrow and i'm
like dude i i don't really have much going on right now i was like well let's let's let's meet
up again and i will read some more stuff and we've read some more stuff and that was like my first
audition i didn't i didn't even know what an audition was yeah um and so he was like well
what are you what are you doing for the next month or so and i'm like dude i just got laid off like i
don't i i got time he's like well i think i got a guy who's gonna help us with the camera do you know anything about filmmaking and i was like no
but i what is it that i need to know and he's like well and he kind of goes through all this
stuff that i don't know anything about but i was like well i know how to get things like i know
how to like we need a house all right we'll get a house we need an office i'll get an office we
need a store yeah so i was able to kind of facilitate the locations and and i brought on the rest of the crew because i had friends in dallas like wait
we're gonna make a movie yeah i'll do that but they had jobs too which was weird like they would
they would uh leave work early to come help us shoot and uh and they're also in the movie as
well so if the people everybody that made that movie is actually in the movie yeah um so like
when i wasn't on camera which was very little I was on the camera the majority of the time, I was, like, I was holding, like, we had this long halogen light that we hooked up on a stick.
And I was, like, following.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Or pushing the dolly or whatever it was.
It's against union rules.
Yeah.
We made it for $7,000 and it won Sundance.
That's crazy.
Yeah. That's crazy yeah yeah it was
nuts um so okay so you did that and then saw yourself on the cover of what was it use yeah
usa today today yeah and then you're like you thought you literally thought you made it of
course so i've been there yeah when i was 19 i did it i got a movie and i was like oh i made it
oh i didn't know that and then and then it and then it came out it didn't come out for like seven years right well mine was like three years yeah no my mind was
literally like let's see i actually think mine was eight years it just it was on why did it even
come out then because you got a little bit of fame i don't know what yeah aaron paul was in it and
then and i maybe maybe i i don't think i had anything to do with it i think maybe aaron paul
did it just got, you know.
Whoa, I didn't know that.
And then.
Did you guys know each other or were you just met on the movie?
Aaron?
Yeah.
That's how we met.
He was 20, I was 19.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah.
That's how I know Aaron.
Wow.
Yeah.
We've been friends forever.
Yeah.
Love that dude.
Wow.
And happy for his success.
He's amazing.
Yeah.
Such a good, I mean, that show, Breaking Bad, best show.
Yeah, yeah.
And yeah, so I thought I made it and then i'll you know obviously i started stand up maybe five years later it's so hard at a loss yeah it's too hard yeah and uh you're relying too many on
too many other people yeah which i'm not good at so i started doing stand up at a loss and it was
what i always wanted to do but i always figured i would like either backdoor it or figure it out later which is idiotic yeah you need to cut your teeth in the clubs and shit
but now um but you did it like you did it right did you have somebody who was like dude you got
to get on stage all the time or was that just your instinct was that like your nature like
i have to do that well so it's different for a stand-up than it is for a musician like when
musician you can't really i mean you can do kind of open mics and shit but like you don't play like like i'll play like the laugh factory every night if i
want right but like musicians don't play somewhere in la every night because they'll just like it's
just not something musicians do because they'll either exhaust their their uh uh fan base or
they'll exhaust their ticket sales and shit it's it's just like, not really like that for standup.
And coming up, the idea is to play the shit gigs and get funny.
Like that's why I can do this podcast.
It's just me talking to nobody.
I'm bombing, but I don't give a shit.
I still think it's funny.
And then so it reaches people and they're like, okay, well, we actually think this is
funny.
Right.
That's because I don't give a fuck if I'm bombing.
Right.
Right.
And it's because you cut your teeth in the clubs and the open mics and the coffee shops
and the fucking laundromats literally yeah so uh and i found out that when you do stand up
you can just do it every night yeah i didn't know that and then so i started doing stand up
and i and i would go to open mics every night yeah and then uh the first time i did i was 23
the second time i did i was 25 and then I just did it every day. Yeah.
Every day.
And then it got to the point where I was doing it every, like, two or three times a night.
Yeah.
I'd be running back and forth doing different clubs, you know, running, you know, doing coffee shops.
There were laundromats, comic book stores.
Dude, it was so fun.
It was so fun. We would go.
Yeah.
We went to a bar somewhere in the valley that was next, I don't know if it was part of the gas station or next to the gas station.
And the bar, like, you're facing the opposite direction that stage yeah you
were with me then that was yeah that was i told that story in incorrigible when the there was
that i did that bar once and the woman charged the stage i don't know if you were there that one yeah
yeah yeah and then uh yeah oh yeah You did talk about that on your,
if that happened to me now,
the press would have a field day.
It'd be all my fault.
But the,
um,
but yeah,
so that is,
but that,
that,
that is what I would do.
And that was called what the fuck liquid zoo.
That's what that place was called.
And,
uh,
yeah,
I don't know,
dude,
I,
I loved it.
And you know,
I also have,
I obsess about stuff and I have an obsessive,
um,
personality and, and that was
part of that.
And I always thought, oh, this is healthy, like a healthy one, stand up.
And it was, and I got, you know, I got a career out of it and, um, yeah.
And, and it was just, uh, it was, it was a wild ride and it is a wild ride.
But, uh, you know, I think that that's one of the things I love about standup is that
and comedy is that you could just keep doing it and do it.
Yeah.
And you don't have to,
like I could book my own dates.
Yeah.
I could do literally every night next week,
next,
next month if I want to.
Yeah.
Um,
that's,
that's when,
when we were going to Adam's wedding,
it was just like,
dude,
it's going to be in Phoenix.
Like,
dude,
call.
And you just,
you call the club and they're like,
yeah,
okay,
we'll move things around.
What nights?
Well,
we used to do Saturdays.
It's like,
no,
we're going to do a Thursday and Friday.
And they're like, okay.
Yeah.
Like that's, and it was so fun.
So fun.
And I'm so grateful for the people that come out now.
And I worked for free forever.
Of course.
And yeah, I just love doing it.
Yeah.
You know, and I don't know if you find this with acting,
but like, have you always loved acting the most
as you have gone throughout your career no because i i have spouts where i don't make any money right
and i i make myself feel really shitty because it's like oh what i'm paid to do i'm not being
paid to do anymore and nobody wants to hire me and it doesn't feel good because then it's like
well what's my value right now if i'm not able to you know make a good living doing this and
and growing up i mean looking at me you don't see me as like a supreme athlete but like i'm a
premier athlete okay all right yeah i mean my my you did play yeah football at what level at
baylor division one division one okay now when you find out what position he played it's not You did play football at what level? At Baylor, Division I. Division I.
Okay.
Now, when you find out what position he played.
It's not important.
Okay.
No, I was a Division I football player.
Yeah.
We'll leave out what he did.
Yeah.
But it rhymes with picker.
It's kicker.
You were a kicker.
So you were used 10 seconds in every game.
Yeah.
I wish that were true, but I, yeah.
You could kick the shit out of a football.
I could, I could, but I played, that's not important.
Basically I learned, I learned that at an early age that like, oh, you're as valuable as what it is that you can contribute.
And I never took into consideration like, oh, I can contribute as a human being because
that doesn't make sense to me especially as a child and like even in early early like 20s and 30s like no that no i gotta
make money i gotta get paid i gotta get the big house in the car and everything and that made me
feel good um and then moving out here and being broke after three months crazy yeah i'm like oh what what do i do now and i still have
yeah it still kind of hits me that like even now like i i yeah i have some downtime and i just came
off a show that's gonna be a big hit but like i don't know my next job and it's it's a little bit
scary and it's um i i used to i used to teach and coach and and interact with a
lot of actors a lot and and with the pandemic i just kind of stopped that and i was just kind of
focusing on me and what i can bring as an actor but um yeah it's it's actually was great timing
for me being around you again and and man you just i don't know you light me up like you really
you you get me going i got on on stage. Yeah, you did.
That was something I never, ever would do.
We had you introduce the show in Albany.
Oh, that was so scary, man.
My heart's just racing thinking about it now.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't know what that is.
I think it's probably the same reason why I've never really finished a script.
Writing one?
Yeah. I've never finished one, I mean, it's probably the same reason why I've never really finished a script because like. Writing one? Yeah.
I've never finished one.
I've written, but it's like, I've, I've read so many good scripts that like, why would I think that I could be that good?
But like, after being around you and, and, and so many great comedians for so many years, I'm like, I could never be that.
So why, why the hell would I even want to do that?
And I've never had the desire to do that.
Um, and then we kind of started as a joke, joke, but Lulu wasn't able to come to the thing.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was like, Mike was just like, yeah, just introduce me.
Just go up there and introduce me.
And I'm like, I can't do that.
And then the thing was, he made it really simple for me.
He was like, dude, just go out there.
Because we were doing bits and it was like, welcome to the show.
But Mike was just like, just go out there and say, welcome Mikeenochi and i was like oh i could do that and i took a small step into something
that i thought was very uncomfortable and very much something that scared the shit out of me
and it did like even when so funny yeah even i guess it does though like if i were to think
like i mean there was a thousand people at that show right so yeah if i i i don't even like a lot of
the times when i'm on stage i'm less nervous than i am in the day for other things like genuinely
and i know that sounds so like that i'm trying to be cute saying this shit but it's a hundred
percent true like if i'm on stage now at this point in my career that hour at least i know what i'm doing right and also in knowing you
you have spent more time doing that than you have probably anything else either thinking about it or
performing true like so of course that would be you would feel more comfortable than sitting on
the edge of your bed and asking yourself why you're unhappy like of course of course it's
funny too it's a bit uh i i was joking around
to my therapist recently and she was like don't she i was like yeah you know i know we're not
supposed to compartmentalize but man sometimes when i have rough days um like in denver when
we were like i had a fucking shit day in denver and i was like and that was my biggest show yet
it was 4 500 people and i was like man thank god i'm able to compartmentalize and we all laughed
and she was like you got to be careful of that and i and and then we ended up talking about something else
and then she was like i want to go back to that because i want you to make sure that yes of course
it's good to compartmentalize you when you're on the road you have to compartmentalize and do your
job so you're able to do your job and do your career but careful coming off stage that that's
when it stops and she's right about that because it's easy for me to get sucked into that adoration
and then get off stage.
And I'm joking, but I also like I'm joking when I'm like,
fuck yeah.
Like I'll walk off stage like Chappelle Lacey the other day.
I went on stage and then after Chappelle,
Chappelle had a great set.
Chappelle Lacey, a different comedian.
Some of you guys are thinking Dave Chappelle, not Dave Chappelle, Chappelle had a great set. Chappelle Lacey, a different comedian. Some of you guys are thinking, Dave Chappelle?
Not Dave Chappelle.
And so he had a great set.
I went on.
I had a great set.
I got off stage.
And I said, after I got off stage, I said, hey, I heard when I was getting off stage,
I heard people literally say, Chappelle who?
And I said this to Chappelle.
And he laughed. And I i'm joking of course but like to i have to be careful of like playing a character in real life
all the time because then i'm not being a real person yeah and um so yeah so anyway uh you being
up there felt very real because it's not your job. And you got off stage and your heart was really pumping.
It's interesting too, because when I first started, that's how I felt.
But I have no, so I know how that feels.
Right.
But I just don't feel that way anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that makes sense though, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because you have done that for so long.
Right.
Right.
And like I said, you're constantly thinking about what's funny.
It's a 10,000 hours thing, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it doesn't surprise me that that's where you're most comfortable.
And it doesn't surprise me too,
why you're the most uncomfortable when you're doing things that you don't want
to do because you just haven't done them.
Yeah.
And I was like, why don't I just do the shit I'm good at?
That's what I fall back into.
But then the truth is, like, for instance, for you,
one of your traits is I like to try everything.
If you didn't like to try everything, you might not be an actor right now.
That's true.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's very true.
We learn.
Yeah.
We learn, dude.
Yeah.
Because I never would have thought that, like,
coming from a small town in East Texas.
Like, you don't think really outside your world. And you're like you know even even after i moved to la i talked to my dad and he'd
be like yeah you know you ought to think about coming home yeah you know you know your brother
can get you on at the bank you know you ought to think about coming up because you know for the
first few years he would be like oh you should be in that clint eastwood movie and it's just like
yeah dad that's not how it works like yeah I would love
to be in a Clint Eastwood movie but he parents would be like why don't you get get us SNL yeah
yeah constantly and and it it is one of those things where you're just like well yeah maybe I
maybe I should scary yeah what else do you want to try doing you know to be honest with you oh you already know no no no
after i did that and the the i'm not an anxious person but like that rush that i felt the 30
seconds i was on stage yeah and even i had a it wasn't even a joke i had nothing to say i was
literally going to go out there and say ladies and and gentlemen, Mike Linoche. But I went out there and I was like, how are y'all doing?
Right.
Or whatever.
I said, hey, how's everybody doing?
And then I got like a response and I'm like, oh, all right, well, maybe I should do something
else.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's it.
Yeah.
And then I did something else and it didn't work.
And I was like, okay, I got to get out of here.
Yeah.
And so I just immediately, I didn't even, I don't even think I said your name.
I was like, yeah, I was like like I've known these guys Yeah yeah yeah
Very disrespectful to not say my name
Yeah
But I
There's something there that really kind of
That really kind of excited me
And I think maybe I've been scared to do it
But I think I want to do more
Live because I've never
I haven't done a play
You said you did it in high school right There were one act plays it was like literally on stage for 10
minutes okay so i think i want to do a play i think i want to get in front of an audience and
do something like that um i haven't had really had the opportunity to do it because i haven't
really focused my energy in that direction but man it was cool it was really cool it's cool yeah
it's the best job to me it's the best job in the world yeah
but stand up i still don't and i get asked that all the time because are you a stand-up
why don't you do stand-up you're funny um and i'm just like nah it's not my my art form yeah but
maybe maybe after i do a play and then i get more comfortable on stage maybe i'll i'll go and try
some jokes but also i know how much work it is and And in a weird way, I don't want to cheat the system because I know you.
And like, oh, what?
He's doing 10 minutes before Chris?
Like that, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I put you on after me.
I put you on after me.
I do an hour and then you come on and you have to do six hot minutes or in the middle.
I'd be like in the middle of a joke when they're all like, I'd be like, you don't get to hear this now i gotta bring my buddy david sullivan up and you
come up and you're like what's it do with fruit you know when you're dipping you know you're
dipping and you're working on your fence uh because it broke because the cattle got out
what the fuck is up with spurs you know when you're like walking and like you trip and then your calf gets all bloody
yeah write this down yeah well hey by the way i will be selling jacuzzis uh
after the show i have one so far um you can buy it high as bitter um so yeah uh yeah they're good
jokes yeah i think i'm gonna do that yeah go. You guys, thank you very much for watching.
Thank you, guys.
Thanks for having me, buddy.
This was really fun.
It was great.
Yeah.
The first-
I was really good.
Non-family, non-blood.
Yeah.
We'll cut it so you look good.
You don't need to cut it.
I was really good.
Also, thank God you can't see his bottom half.
He's dressed like Adam Sandler on a bad day, honestly.
He's got fucking basketball shorts on and cherry socks, which are red and blue, and
then shoes that have orange in it, dude.
The guys, are you blind?
Dude, so thank you for coming, David Sullivan, and thank you for ripping with us, Life Rips.
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Dude, I love that you're going to Texas.
I love Texas.
I got a lot of friends that want to come see you.
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