Cox n' Crendor Show - Episode 335 - Marketing Can Do ANYTHING
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Dude, I got two stories. I'll let you decide where we go first
Alright we either go to Jesse Love Life
Or Jesse
And Alex Fossiani have a conversation
That is insane
Alright let's kick it off with the uh
Let's kick it off with Jesse Alex Insane
Cause you've been hyping this up off the podcast
Great alright so
Uh
I do another podcast called Chaluminati with Mr. Alex Fasciani and with Mr. Mike.
Mr. Mike.
Martin.
Mr. Mike.
Mr. Mike.
And while we today had a great guest, Pat the NES Punk came on and we talked about like a crazy story.
It was the normal
to Illuminati stuff.
If you've never listened to it,
it is straight up just
us talking paranormal things
and me being like,
that's not real.
Anyway,
after the show ended,
after we were done,
Alex and Pat
had a conversation
that I couldn't
pull myself away from.
And by conversation,
I mean it was
these two men
passionately debating a topic. And I want to I mean it was these two men passionately debating
a topic. And I want to pose this topic to you.
I'm going to breach the confidence of the
group because it's so insane
to me and I just walked
out of there that I can't stop thinking about it.
Alright. So,
we were talking about
how YouTubers
could bridge the gap from YouTube
success to mainstream success.
And myself and Pat had the opinion that that's not possible.
Most people that do that, they attempt to and fail because there's a market cap on what
people are willing to watch.
Like you could take a Markiplier, for example, and say, we're going to make him a celebrity.
I'd wager they've already tried to do that.
And Markiplier is the peak of, like, Markiplier gets the audience Markiplier has, and that is, like, what he has.
And if he could have anything else, they would have tapped that by now.
The man was repped by Disney.
Yeah.
Alex, however, is like he didn't have the right marketing.
If he was marketed well, anything can be marketed well.
If you market Markiplier well in the right way, if you find the right fit for him
and then put him out there and you put money behind it, if he just had a good marketing team,
I was like, you don't think he had a good marketing team?
Like the man has infinite cash.
He has major companies behind him.
Of course they market him all the time.
The problem is that
he's not a mainstream actor.
He's not going to become the next Tom Hanks.
And so Alex was like, well, Tom Hanks,
let me tell you, Tom Hanks is marketed very well.
And we're like, what do you mean?
He had to earn his
way up to being like
America's dad
by being in a bunch of movies,
working his ass off, and also
being like a good dude, and making good
decisions outside of
the film
industry, like in his personal life.
And the way that, you know, he
treated people and stuff. And then
Alex was like, well, I mean,
it's all marketing. If you get good marketing
people, and I was like, wait wait are you saying you want to like
Mold people
To form a vision of
What would make them
Like that is some dystopian
Shit that's like where you make a person
A fake person
And he was like
Give me $50,000 I can make
I can remake you like what are you talking
About
And he was so convinced Of the power of marketing He was like, give me $50,000. I can remake you. I'm like, what are you talking about?
And he was so convinced of the power of marketing. And I was like, Alex, you are talking about marketing as if you do everything I say, it'll be success.
When everyone in marketing who went to all the marketing schools says the exact same thing, and most of the time they fail.
And it isn't because their idea was bad. It's just because sometimes stuff fails. And marketing,, and most of the time they fail. And it isn't because their idea was bad.
It's just because sometimes stuff fails, and marketing is most of the time.
Yeah.
And he's so convinced.
And I can't tell you how wrong he was.
Like, I don't know where your thoughts are on something like this,
but he was convinced that you could take a PewDiePie or a Markiplier or whatever.
And he was like, I mean, look at Issa Rae.
I was like, yeah, but Issa Rae was never on the same level as them.
Issa Rae was an actor who made videos because she couldn't get work
and then got work.
Yeah.
Like these guys were dudes who screamed at scary games
and then stopped screaming at scary games
and now make videos about their personalities
and people are there for it make videos about their personalities.
And people are there for it because they like their personalities.
But that's not like, that doesn't mean that they're going to be the next great comedian or the next great whatever. I mean, whatever her name was, Lilly Singh, I guess, or whatever.
She moved from YouTube to doing a late night show and everyone panned.
They were like, she's not funny.
Yeah.
to doing a late night show and everyone panned they were like she's not funny
yeah I mean
it's not and it isn't
cause you know she was very funny on YouTube
so what happened what changed
and that's the thing and
I don't think he's thinking about it and it's driving
me crazy I don't know what is in his head
but I was at one point I swear to god
he said like you need to
think of the world as
not being structured I was like what does that
mean bro what are you saying right now all right the irony behind that statement is that by going
from a place like youtube or an online presence to television is that you become more structured
and that in itself is part of the problem
because people hate television
because of how structured it is.
Well, I mean, exactly.
To me, it's just completely different forms of media.
And there's like people that are TV actors and stuff
that try to go to YouTube
and they don't even do that well.
It's like the vice versa going there.
I mean, look at, what was it?
The Annoying Orange.
The Annoying Orange got a, what was got a Nickelodeon series or just something,
and it just didn't do anything.
That kid Fred.
Remember him?
Yeah.
What happened to Fred?
Fred was popular on the internet, got a TV show, vanished.
Yeah.
There was a search for YouTubers' TV shows.
There was Grace Helbig.
I remember her.
Yeah, Grace was huge, and then she got a TV thing and vanished.
Now, she could be doing something else, but the idea
is, if you're talking about fame, because Alex
was trying to convince us that
he could create...
I don't think he would
say it this way, but honest to God,
what he was trying to do was create the next
cultural phenomenon. He was
convinced that he could make the next
Coke out of a person, is what I think he was trying to get to. He was convinced that he could make the next Coke out of a person, is what I think he was trying
to get to. He was like, if you just give me
the ability to mold you with
this advertising and the marketing,
we can make you something
that is the next. Basically,
he wanted to make Aristotle. We're a thousand years
from now, we're still talking about Markiplier,
which is never going to happen. It's just not going to happen.
Alright, how high was Alex?
Was he like blazed out of his mind? I mean, I'm gonna say not I'm gonna say not high
I think he's probably
believes that he can do this, but I think he's coming to it from a place that is like
nonsensical
Yeah, I mean there's
If that was possible then somebody would have would just keep doing it over and over
So it would just be a formula you follow
They would have done it already
The idea that someone like
That who was the dude who
Was very popular right now in Minecraft
Any Minecrafter, doesn't even matter
Anyone on YouTube
Any YouTuber
If they were successful and popular enough
Like all the Among Us people That blew up and became super famous, whatever the case may be, all those like 16-year-olds who are Minecraft and every day on Twitter you log in and there's like 800 posts about them, all that stuff.
Yeah.
Advertising agencies, marketing people have seen that. And if they can't make anything out of them, then, like, it's not possible right now.
Yeah.
Well, the thing is, they're trying to sell it as, like, we need to make them big on, like, old media.
Like, why do you want to go to old media?
I never understood that.
Like, people are like, we got to take this person on new media, go to old media.
It's like, old media is dying. Why do we have to go to old media?
Like it's stupid again. I don't know what he was like the point. He's trying to make I
Just I don't get what he's trying to do still I
Think he's coming at it from like a brand attitude of Coke. They plan stuff a year in advance.
And even though they've had failures, they're always swinging successes in the end.
And all these companies.
And I'm like, those are companies.
Yeah.
Those are corporate entities that are totally different than a human being.
And you're trying to take a human and corporatize that human and then sell it packaged to all of us.
And here's the thing.
We can, like, normal everyday people can smell that shit.
Yeah.
That's why they liked things like YouTube and Twitch because it bypasses that.
Nobody wants that.
And then he gave an example about, like, oh, well, if you look at when they made the Ninja Turtles.
Because for some reason we got on the Ninja Turtles.
Look, it was a wide range of conversation. We they made the Ninja Turtles, because for some reason we got on the Ninja Turtles. Look, it was a wide range of conversation.
We got on the Ninja Turtles, and he was like,
during the time period, I think Pat said something about the Ninja Turtles
and how people at the time tried to make additional variations of Ninja Turtles,
and they failed.
And he's like, they saw success, they tried to replicate it,
and it failed.
That happens.
We were trying to explain to Alex, it happens, dude.
You can't always just market something and be successful.
And he was like, yeah, but I wouldn't do the Ninja Turtles but birds
or the Ninja Turtles but this.
I'd do something totally different.
I was like, who would buy that?
At the time, everyone said we want more Ninja Turtles.
You're now creating a thing no one has any pre-knowledge of,
and you're going to sell it to who who are you you know like it honest to god i was losing my mind i was like
what do you talk so and the reason i bring this up is because i had to make krendor wait
an hour and a half to start recording this because i couldn't leave this conversation
i was so involved i was like i can't Alex, I can't with you right now.
What are you talking about?
And I couldn't, if I left, it meant I gave up and let him have the victory.
I couldn't do it.
Finally, I had to be like, guys, I got to go.
I can't do this anymore.
To be fair, Alex does sound crazy in this scenario.
I think he's absolutely insane.
Which wouldn't be the first time I've thought Alex is
insane.
So it checks out.
He was so...
The problem is he was so passionate about it that I
know he believes. I know he believes
in it fundamentally to his core.
I know he's convinced.
And the thing is I guarantee
he has some experience working with marketing stuff because I know he's done marketing jobs with other different people. So I know he's convinced. And the thing is, I guarantee he has some experience working with marketing stuff.
Because I know he's done marketing jobs with other different people.
So I know he knows that he thinks he can do this.
But YouTubers and YouTubers' brands are themselves.
People watch or tune into this show because it's us.
I don't think they give a shit about the news or the weather
or whatever they're here to hear our reactions to those things right but that's what i was saying
that's why old media is dying because people that are under the age of like 40 are like i don't want
to put on television and see some fake people talk about stuff and have it be scripted
and all this. They just want like people to be real.
And like if you're real
even if like even on Twitch there's like a
sense of like fakeness to some people
but they're still like just being a
you know more heightened
version of themselves. Or like
a crazier version of themselves but they're still
themselves deep down. Yeah.
And there's an overwhelming amount of choice.
Yeah.
You can find anything
and anyone on YouTube or
Twitch or wherever online.
Yeah. And that's not possible on TV.
That's why people are cutting
cable. People are getting rid of
TV stuff. Yeah.
And now we have to deal with the fact
that everyone has like 18 subscriptions to dumb
services, which is
a totally different stupid thing. But here's the thing.
I'd rather have a dumb subscription to a service
that I can press play and not see 80 commercials
than pay to have cable
and see all those damn commercials. Oh, yeah.
You just get all the channels you wanted
anyway. Like if you're like, I want Discovery Channel.
It's like we pay like 10 bucks. There you go. You got it.
Yeah. Now you have the thing you watch all the time yeah i was gonna say uh
it was a good segue so i was i looked at your twitter again oh boy yes and i i saw you mention
i replied to it watching streamers who pay attention to games all right yes where are we going with this i wanted you to go more in depth to that because
when i read that like you had a lot of people responding to you being like you're old man
jesse over here like i like blah blah but like it sounded like a really vague tweet which is
the problem with twitter yeah all i was saying is, one of the things that when I tune in to watch someone
on stream,
I don't care if they shout
out people that donate bits,
I don't care if they
like,
you know, are talking while playing
the game or whatever. None of that matters to me.
It's their form of entertainment. The thing that
annoys me the most is when
people are sitting there either looking at their phone for five minutes and not even engaging chat.
Or when people are playing a game, but they're not really.
You know what?
There's like that not really playing it thing where they're just kind of like it's on and it's on a screen and the character hasn't moved and they're just kind of like out of it.
Oh, yeah.
And it's like, yo, what if instead you just stop streaming and like took a nap or something?
Like there's – it drives me crazy that people have this mentality of like I have to be on.
I have to stream.
I said I would stream today and so I will.
It's like, no, you really don't.
on. I have to stream. I said I would stream today. And so I will. And it's like, no, you really don't.
And all you're doing is making me not want to watch you because your lack of investment in this game is breaking my heart. And I don't, I don't want to see you sit there and text your friends
on your phone. Like, yo, if this is your job, entertain us. Like you're the entertainer and
we're here to watch you entertain us and you have no
like, it's clear you don't care
about what you're doing right now. I think most people
can tell when someone doesn't care.
I mean, that's what I was trying to say.
That's what I was, I was, my
the point of the tweet was
I just watched someone do
that. Where it was very obvious
they did not care and I was so
outraged that they had like a thousand
people watching them not care and the chat was just entertaining itself and i was like shut up
this sucks i hate this i hate this because i guess the chat had gotten so used to them not caring
and i was like man i don't know how you do this but yeah And people made jokes like oh you think that
Twitch is for games and stuff like it's different
The idea of like people not playing video games or whatever
Is fine as long as they're
Doing something
That seems like an entertainment
I obviously am not going to be entertained by everything
Just like people who watch me aren't going to be like
He's not funny I don't like him
He doesn't do whatever that's fine
Everyone has preferences.
I'm simply saying
that there is a bare
minimum I expect from streamers.
And a lot of them
are not hitting it.
And it blows my mind. And I think a lot
of people don't think of this as a job.
I would say that if they kept
doing that, then people would leave.
So they have to be doing something.
I'm telling you, I, man.
Unless there's like, like if I did that, I would do a stream being like just chatting and I would just be like on my phone and it would just be on my phone for like 30 minutes and then I'd stop streaming.
But that's like a set up goof.
Yeah, you're doing it as like a modern, I you you're like modern arting this shit yeah you are taking a concept and running with it you are not in the middle of a game pausing standing there and then checking out for 25 minutes on your phone like not even like he got up and had to go do something like that. I can understand leaving the screen.
I'm saying like staying on camera and zoning out and then like going back to the game and like half-assing it and like not really playing, just like running around in circles for 25 minutes
and kind of like, you know, here's, here's how I know that you don't, that you don't give a shit. When you start asking chat questions that are, like, not related to anything that's been happening the last 25 minutes.
When you're just trying to get chat to, like, talk to itself.
That's how I know that you are checked out completely.
Because you're just, like, going through the motions of keeping people engaged.
And I'm telling you it's, like, a symptom of burnout, a symptom of all these things.
I'm not saying streamers are bad for doing X, Y, and Z.
I'm saying turn the stream off.
Walk away.
There's nothing worse than watching an entertainer who does not give a damn.
But I'd still argue that there's still people watching.
So like, I mean, even though like, it's not like people are like, this guy's not paying attention.
This guy's boring.
I'm out of here.
Like, they're still there.
Sure.
There's got to be something.
I would wonder how many people were there in the past and how many people will be there in two weeks.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like, I would want to know that information.
I obviously don't know it.
mean yeah like i would want to know that information i obviously don't know it but it does seem like a lot of youtube and twitch is also cult of personality stuff so people show up because
they like the person and it's comforting to them to have the same you know i show up every day at
this time to do this thing right and i'm a part of it and And so, yeah, I don't know.
Imagine that wears off after a while.
Yeah, I mean, that's true.
I think it's, I mean,
because I know there was people that would like, they'd play something like Hearthstone,
but they'd use Hearthstone as like just a game to play
while they were doing just chatting
back before you couldn't do just chatting.
Right, yeah.
Like that used to be a thing,
but I haven't really seen anything like that.
But that is, just chatting,
the good just chatters are busting their ass.
They're, like, putting on a show.
Despite what you may think, they're putting on a show.
Even if that show is like,
I got all dolled up and look at my boobs,
they still did and put work into it.
Right.
And there's a difference between the people who are just like, and you said this, very obviously have given up.
And that's what I was tweeting about are those people.
And everyone knows who they are because everyone who was like, well, what about like, no, you all.
That's why I had a follow up tweet that was like, stop being dumb.
You all know what I'm talking about.
Everyone knows a person like this.
You've seen them.
Yeah, I mean, OK, that makes sense.
Well, from your tweet, like you made it sound like you were saying, like, for example, like if I played PUBG with somebody and I just talked for like an hour
and not pay attention to the game,
we just podcasted over PUBG while we sit in a field.
You didn't like that.
That's what I got from it.
No, that's totally, that's like,
again, this is why Twitter sucks ass.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, what I was saying was,
and that's why I clarified with a follow-up tweet.
Like, there's a difference,
like playing a game, if you and I were sitting in a field in PUBG, part of the expectation is we're going to sit in a field talking, waiting for someone to come across us.
That's part of the thing.
That's the game, right?
It's exploring a house and finding weird shit and then hiding out waiting to kill a person.
That's it.
You're just old, old man.
And I'm fine with that.
I'm fine with having my expectations be not met.
It happens.
I think my issue would be if someone's just kind of like
they don't care like what you're saying.
That reminds me of like in sports or something.
Like some dude is in like the,
he's got like a few years left on his contract.
He's like,
you know,
doing well,
but then the,
like the team's not doing well and he just kind of half asses it.
He's just kind of going through the motions.
And it's like,
that is what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
Well,
some say like people are paying to watch this person.
People want to go there like,
Oh,
I can't wait to see John Johnson play basketball today.
And then he half asses it.
And you're like,
well, that sucks.
So, like, I can see from that.
It sucks to watch in a sporting event.
It sucks to watch, like, you go to see.
Because I think people forget, like, not everyone can watch every one of your streams.
And when people show up, they have an expectation of what you're going to do and how you're going to make them feel.
It's your job.
You are an entertainer.
When people leave your stream, they should be like, man, that was good.
I would love to come back again.
That person made me feel a certain way.
I smiled and laughed because of them.
It's like if you went and saw a comedian and their show sucked,
but you for years were like, this person's hilarious.
Why was that show terrible?
You would feel a certain way about that.
And that's how I felt watching this person.
You're great. What are you doing? Why are you acting
this way? And that's
why I tweeted. Should I have tweeted
about it? Clearly not, because everyone was like,
do you hate us? I'm like, no.
Why does everyone think it's about them personally?
No, I don't hate you.
I just, this one person I watched
really upset me, and I don't hate you i just this one person i watched really upset me and i don't know
why everyone is just like upset that i think that they are bad at streaming that's not that's not
i didn't say that that's not what came out of my mouth yeah i mean it could also be a thing where
like some people they've like streamed for so long or they've done youtube for so long they just go
through the motions of it because it's just like it it's what I got to do now. They just kind of do it, but they've lost their passion for it, essentially.
And that's sad, man.
I want someone to, if that happens to me, and sometimes it does, truth be told, I want someone to shake me, be like, Jesse, stop it!
And I will be so appreciative.
So if I hit someone to the core and they're like, damn, that is me, bro.
Great.
I would love to see someone change.
Well, I mean, it can also be other things.
It can also be going through like hard times in life and they're just kind of like, but
they still got to stream to make money.
Yeah.
And I would say maybe don't stream that day then.
I know you guys stream to make money, but like if you're going through hard times in
life, like life comes first, y'all.
Yeah.
I agree. You still got to take breaks. We've life comes first, y'all. Yeah. I agree.
You still got to take breaks.
We've talked about that.
The old burnout.
Taking breaks.
Feels good.
Stop workaholicking.
It's also a big problem on Twitch.
People just going like, I'm going to stream eight billion hours.
It's like, you got to calm down.
I also saw that you were losing subs on YouTube and losing Twitter people and Instagram people.
You're gaining TikTok and Twitch.
Yeah.
Yes, correct.
So, like, why do you think that is?
Honestly, YouTube has just been stagnant.
I haven't lost or gained.
I did lose some when I made my world of warcraft video that's for sure
yeah i made my world of warcraft video and people literally said like i'm never dealing with
blizzard again and unsubscribed from me like i was blizzard it's funny because i had the opposite
where i made my world of warcraft video and people subscribe well that checks out that makes sense
because you haven't spent the last year being like blizzard is a mess
what a terrible company all i did was react to the to the thing i didn't say like and this is
why this is the best game i didn't do any of that stuff i said that it that it looks kind of bland
but i think it's neat dragons are neat and i think that like some of the changes they made to the to
the ui and also i was like that's pretty changes they made to the UI and all that stuff, I was like, that's pretty good.
That's actually very good.
And people, I guess, were like, he's back in.
Like, no, it doesn't mean I'm going to play it.
I just said that was neat.
And people were like, oh, people got really upset.
I got a bunch of messages that were like, buy, sell out.
I was like, what the hell?
So, yeah.
Those people are crazy.
Let them leave.
Get them out of here.
Yeah, I mean, there's nothing they can do about it.
But I've been stuck at the exact same number of
YouTube subscribers for five years
So that doesn't like that's insane to me
That it doesn't go up or down
It might go up by a thousand but then it'll go down
By a thousand for some reason it just fluctuates
Hasn't moved
And that's because YouTube is like YouTube man
It's where it's at right now it's oversaturated
The algorithm has this weird thing it does.
I don't know how to break it.
I've given up, really.
So now I just do my new show and have fun.
And even though they're like, dude, in order to really nail the algorithm, you've got to hit eight minutes plus.
I'm like, no, I'm all right.
They're like, no, I'm good.
I don't want to invest too much time.
Eight minute news.
Yeah, they're like, but you aren't going to make as much money. I was like, I'm fine. I'm all right. invest too much time. Eight-minute news. They're like, but you aren't going to make as much money.
I was like, I'm fine.
I'm all right.
It's all good.
Thanks, though.
And then Twitter is the same.
Twitter, I feel like I hit a cap where I don't go up and I don't go down.
I just sit there.
And I think with everyone, no matter who you are as an entertainer, you have a cap.
There's only so many people that can tolerate your ass.
And I think I just hit that that and I'm fine with it.
Meanwhile, over on Twitch and TikTok
because I haven't really engaged
there before and now I'm doing it
on TikTok.
We're doing two or three videos
a week and even though I have
literally zero, I don't put
any work into TikTok. I have a
lovely editor. She's incredible. She kicks
ass on that. She makes the videos. She She's incredible. She kicks ass on that.
She makes the videos. She decides the video. She does everything. And I let her go. She's zoomering the whole thing and it's amazing. And we started out with zero and we went from having
a thousand people watch a video to now we're at, I think we're nearing 10,000 followers, whatever it is on there.
And we, you know, I get like 10,000 to some videos, like 40,000 views.
And we're just like chugging along.
And it's, you know, it's great.
I'm not on TikTok all the time.
It's not a thing I'm like super passionate about, but like I'm in the space.
On Twitch, you know, I'm streaming a little bit more.
I'm not doing it as often as like most streamers, but like I'm there and space. On Twitch, you know, I'm streaming a little bit more. I'm not doing it as often as, like, most streamers, but, like, I'm there, and it's growing.
And it's, you know, it's just, I think, because more people are, either I'm doing something different on those, which might just be, like, it might just be all Final Fantasy XIV fans.
I have no clue.
I don't know what's going on there.
I'm not doing any analytics at all but
like yeah it's very obvious that twitter and youtube have like a less cool audience now
like most of the people that are interested in the gaming world have moved to twitch and most
of the people who are interested in like social media things are on tiktok
it's just like where it's at right now yeah no i'd agree with that i'd say uh
youtube's been more of a uh it's definitely like the main like media but for like so many
different things like you find like cat videos you can find game videos you can find like this guy ate a billion batteries and
exploded like you can literally find anything well like back in the day it wasn't really that
it was much more like specified so i think because i keep i lose subs too but i'm like whatever i
don't care i haven't cared for years at this point yeah same i'm so over it it doesn't affect me at
all i like just assume that most of these people
subbed like 10 years ago and they're just like
it's just their accounts done
or they unsubbed
or they, I don't know,
just a billionaires
or they were just bots or it was just
like there's whatever.
But all I care about is like
how are the videos doing? People
still like the videos I put up.
They still get some views.
Neat.
Yeah, I don't care about numbers as much as I do is, like, are you a fan?
Have I made you happy?
Is this good?
Did you like the thing I made?
Great.
So thrilled.
And, you know, I'm fine if people are like, not for me.
I'm fine if people are like, not for me, but there's a desire to create content that you yourself can love and you hope your fans will love it too.
And at a certain point, you are forced to figure out what you love versus what your fans love. And that's the problem a lot of people have is they start making content because it makes them money rather than it's something they like.
Yeah.
No, that's very true.
There's people that probably wanted to do YouTube or something for one thing and then they're like,
but if I do these eight crazy ways, your sync can be a sync.
They're going to get more views.
People love sync videos.
you know they're gonna get more views people love sync videos and the problem is is that you end up with like uh like a chills or a nukes top five or whatever where you start at the beginning like
top 10 scary ghost things and it's like they're pretty scary and then five years in there are
only so many scary ghost videos so now you're like what do these girls see and there's nothing there
you're like maybe they saw something maybe they didn't what do you see and now you're like, what do these girls see? And there's nothing there. And you're like, maybe they saw something.
Maybe they didn't.
What do you see?
And now you're just like going through the motions because you have to make a video that week.
Yeah.
Or you're streaming because you have to stream and you're sitting there not doing anything.
And then you check out on your phone and then Jesse tweets about you.
Yes.
Exactly.
And that's the cycle of life, really.
That is certainly going to segue very nicely into my Jesse dating report.
All right.
Very good.
Crandor.
So I met this girl and we started talking.
And so it was like very nice.
We like started talking on text with each other after meeting.
Okay.
And I now am at the point where I have to explain my job because she is not a internet person.
She is a Hollywood person, but she's not an internet person.
Okay.
She is a Hollywood person, but she's not an internet person.
Okay.
And so I tried to explain in this.
I just want to read this text to you because it's freaking hilarious.
All right.
So I was trying to explain because, like, here's the problem.
How do you explain to a person that in a very small space of the internet you are a famous person?
Right.
It's a weird thing to do because you sound like a crazy lunatic so i said all this stuff like yes so i this is the stuff i do i do and
she said i'd gathered because uh she was looking at my instagram and we just advertised cox and
i'm sorry the chillimani live show yeah and she said well i gathered from the podcast but like
that's wild so what kind of
internet personality are you like this movie is for children and it doesn't follow adult logic
boo or something else and i was like oh no i was like so her experience is like basically all the
like i am angry at star wars dudes so And I was like, you have gotten angry
at Star Wars.
Here's the thing.
I know.
How do I say it?
That's not me,
but sometimes, maybe.
So I basically
just wrote a paragraph
trying to explain
my life to her.
And now I'm terrified
that she's going to be like,
you know what?
I'm all right.
I finally found someone that I'm like, all right, she's in Hollywood. She's going to be like, you know what? I'm all right. I finally found someone that I'm like, all right.
She's in Hollywood.
She's super cool.
She seems very down to earth.
She's not originally from LA.
Everything about this seems chill.
It's only been a week.
So obviously she has an easy out of like, no, I'm good.
How did you meet her?
Just like live in life.
It was just one of those like, can I get your number kind of things?
And we just started talking.
And it isn't even like anything remotely close to a relationship it's
just chatting but admittedly i'm like just all the boxes are checked off jesse is in completely in
except now i have to be like okay how do i defend my insane career to you? Without it sounding like I am jobless.
Does she enjoy hiking?
Has never mentioned hiking once.
Not once.
That's a good sign.
Good sign.
It's obvious she's done her research.
She clearly has snooped on me.
It's not too hard.
You just type your name in and there you go.
Literally can just find me anywhere.
It's not hard.
It's always one of the weird things about dating dating someone i'm like you just google me and that sounds so cocky
but like if you ever want to snoop there's so much shit you can find good and bad enjoy i got no
secrets and uh yeah i don't know it's like so difficult to describe to a person like this is
my life this is what i do uh and try to explain like yeah i
used to do these things and then this is why i'm doing this now and that you know like i always
feel like i have to explain my life story to explain how i went from like teacher to i act
like a fool on the internet for money right and then and then i also feel like how the hell do i
explain that to parents how do i like my like what do, God bless you for just being over, you're through it.
You're married, you're through it.
Everyone knows what you are.
You don't have to deal with this shit.
Me, the older I get, the more insane it sounds what I do.
Me, as an adult, doing like, I play video games and act like, that is, how do I sell that as a win for like the future Mrs. Cox?
Like, baby, don't worry.
I can help you get through Elden Ring.
Like, no, I can't even do that, really.
I need to call like friends to help me.
I'm not even good at video games.
How am I supposed to like, what do I tell people?
You're selling your personality
i guess your skill at games oh my goodness yeah so that's that's that that's what's going on right
now yeah i couldn't believe because she i was she was like yeah no because i tried to explain i was
like yeah so because she works on uh a set of a show that I'm definitely not going to say on the air.
But so she like works on the crew of this show.
She seems super down to earth and like she's not an actress.
She's just like crew.
And I love crew because they're like actual humans.
And she's great.
And then we were talking about like her work and and what she does there
and then she she you know she asked like so you know what is your day-to-day like and i tried to
explain it and she was like what i was like yeah i'm kind of like an internet personality and she
was like why gather from the i can't believe this he's like what sort of personality and she just
nailed it absolutely like this movie for children doesn't follow adult logic boo or something and that is uh i'm terrified
that's what she thinks of every internet person that's how you know i like her because i'm i'm
worried that she thinks i'm a piece of shit already pre-thinks that oh man um you still uh you still do patreon stuff i do still do patreon stuff yeah why what
where is this going oh i was just wondering because you mentioned everything but you didn't
mention patreon but like that's uh that's one thing where like i just do three i do like three
things on patreon a month or no i do an ama that's for like everybody things on Patreon a month. No, I do an AMA. That's for like everybody. Then I do a Patreon podcast.
So people give topics and then I answer those topics.
A little podcast thing.
And then I do a meetup.
And then I also do like a monthly how I'm doing update.
And then occasionally I post like a picture of Kat or me or something.
I secretly do Fan Friday over on Patreon.
Oh. I know. Also, we have all sorts of other things we're doing. I secretly do Fan Friday over on Patreon Oh
I know
Also we have all sorts of other things we're doing
But I moved Fan Friday there because
Fan Friday was what the patrons wanted anyway
And like Fan Friday
Algorithmically
Depending on the game sometimes a lot of people watch
And sometimes not many did
And if not many did it would mess up the channel's algorithm
And people it would send
Like the way it works For those who don't understand like if Crandall makes a video he did and if not many did it would mess up the channel's algorithm and people it would send like
the way it works for those who don't understand like if crendor makes a video and i don't watch
that one crendor video whatever that video is the algorithm is like interesting maybe they're not
interested in crendor anymore and they're less likely to send you future videos yeah so if you're
like oh jesse i like some of content, but not all of your content,
and you don't watch all of it, the algorithm won't send you all of it.
And you'll start getting less and less and less to the point where now, two years later,
you're like, bro, you still make videos?
I haven't seen any of yours pop up in my feed.
It's because you stopped watching.
You were the problem, not me.
You're the problem not me you're the problem yeah actually the algorithm's the problem but don't tell youtube that because i still need i still need the cash yeah that's uh that's the
best part about patreon is it's like a another way to rely on or not rely on ad revenue because
ad revenue is the worst absolutely Absolutely. It is because of Patreon
that I can do things like 5-Minute Gaming News
and stuff like that
where I don't have to give a shit
about the fact that short videos
don't make a lot of money.
It's one of those things that I'm fine with.
Money's never been my driving force in my life.
And I'm totally okay with doing things
that make me happy
that are not
difficult to do like five minute gaming
news takes about an hour and a half of
work compared to a 45 minute let's play
which would be five to six hours of work
yeah and they get roughly the same
amount of views so I mean yeah I mean
that's a great a great lesson that the more you work, the harder you fall.
There you go.
There you go.
Yeah.
And that's why I would go to patreon.com slash Crandor.
Oof.
I was trying to do ads, but you did the best ad of all.
I advertised myself.
Damn.
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Let's go over to Chapter 7.
How's that traffic out there?
Oh, boy. we got traffic.
It is crazy.
We got love.
We got happiness, and we got joy.
Those things are taking up the freeway, and they got to stop
because we got too much love, joy, and happiness out there.
We need some anger.
What?
What?
I don't know.
I really don't know what i'm saying right now um but it is warmer outside which has been nice i've been opening up the windows that's been nice
uh even when it rains you know it's like 60 degrees which is like great love me some 60
degree rain uh which you know i guess for some people, like, if you're in California, then it's like that anyway.
But here, alright, it's been like 20 to 30 degrees for the last, like, few months, alright?
We're finally hitting that spring to summer weather, okay?
I can go outside and be like, ah, vitamin B and sunlight again and the warmth.
So that's pretty neat.
In fact, I've kind of been just spring cleaning everything, to be honest.
It's been pretty nice because you just open everything up.
You air it out.
You air out your house.
Did you know you're supposed to do that like 15 minutes every week?
Even in the winter, you're supposed to air out your house.
So, yeah.
Back to you.
Thanks, Crandor.
I want you to know that you said there's too much love, joy, and happiness in the world.
We need more anger. That's what you said
I meant in terms of the traffic
Right, right, right, right, of course. I'm just saying what I was seeing down on the roads, right?
Listen all I'm saying is
Every time I go out to drive. there's some people getting angry and right
now i look down there it was too much love joy and happiness and at some point there's gonna be
some anger you want some equilibrium is what you're saying you want to balance for the natural
balance of life right right circle of life i get it yeah there's got to be some guy you know getting
honked at because he didn't go within the first like three seconds of the
light turning green and then sticking his hand out the window and doing the middle finger yeah
it's not it's not natural that doesn't happen you're right yeah of course you're right that's
the cycle of life i also saw that happen literally i think that's what they were those lions were
singing about i'm pretty sure yeah yeah traffic i also literally saw that happen like yesterday. I saw a video on Reddit yesterday, speaking of traffic, where a dad was teaching his son to drive.
And they turn up.
He's like, all right, so turn up here on this corner.
And they make the turn.
There's a huge pothole.
He's like, avoid the pothole, avoid the pothole.
And the kid turns and hits like the side of the sidewalk and drives up like an embankment and the car flips
over the dad's like no the dad's just so disappointed he's like ah the car is upside down
oh my god i was like you didn't expect that to happen. Also, I know that poor boy never drives.
Like, that kid is never driving now.
Never.
Oh, yeah.
Never.
100%.
Oh, man.
That's the traffic.
Okay, let's go to weather.
Weather.
Weather.
let's go to weather weather weather uh oh wait somebody tweeted me about you saying to weather or something yeah or probably from earlier today someone came into my chat like
jesse can you do weather for this i was like don't ask me i don't do the weather ask grendor
yeah um yeah i was to go to the last episode
And find some weather but this is easier
So
They want the weather from
Lowborough
UK
Loughborough
Lowborough I think it's Lowborough
I don't know it probably has like a
It probably is actually like
Lime Street knowing how they say stuff in the UK.
L'O'Bara.
In L'O'Bara, it's 42 degrees, American units.
It's going to feel like 55, and nighttime will be 37.
Let's see.
Hold on.
What the shit?
Where is it? Oh, it's up. It's by Nottingham.
Nottingham. It's up by the old Nottingham. Uh, 85% humidity, 29.99 inches of pressure,
10 mile visibility, eight mile an hour winds. You got a 544 AM sunrise, 820 p.m sunset you got a 37 dew point zero on the uv index and a waning crescent moon phase looking at the 10 day 55 with showers early then partly cloudy uh 10 to 15 mile an hour
winds 40 chance of rain and this whole week is 56 cloudy 56 cloudy 58 cloudy 58 cloudy 62 cloudy 60 with rain 61
cloudy 58 cloudy 60 cloudy uh it's pretty much about 60 degrees and cloudy which that's not too
bad that's pretty much what it's like here as well with a little more sun mixed in but yeah that
isn't so we know we're spring man yeah listen if it's above 50 degrees i'm loving it yeah yeah that's
the weather unless there's some wild larborough stuff i don't i don't mean it doesn't sound like
there's any stuff uh that's about oh yeah it sounds about There's got to be something. I don't know.
Let's see.
This says, why is Lowborough famous?
Lowborough is the market center of a fertile agricultural district.
So there you go. Y'all?
Y'all?
It's got electrical engineering, bell founding, and hoisery manufacturing.
You got electricity, bells, and... You and hoisery manufacturing. You got electricity,
bells, and
You're digging deep, man. You're digging deep.
Stockings. They got electricity.
Wow.
That's what it says.
Listen, it's literally
the word for word. Okay, so you got your
stockings,
you got your electricity, and you got your bells.
That's all you got.
And I guess clouds.
That's the weather.
Okay, let's go to sports.
Sports.
Oh boy, we've got sports.
First things first,
NBA playoffs have been wild.
Currently, the Bucks are up on the Bulls
3-1. Warriors are up on on the Bulls 3-1.
Warriors are up on the Nuggets 3-1.
Miami goes up 3-1 on the Hawks.
Celtics up 3-0 on the Nets,
who might get swept after thinking they were going to win the whole thing.
Then the Pelicans are currently beating the Suns.
That would even up to Series 2-2 if that sticks.
But we'll see how that game finishes.
Philadelphia up 3-1 on the Raptors.
And I feel like I'm missing a game.
What am I missing?
There's a game I'm missing here.
Oh, yeah.
Grizzlies Timberwolves are tied up at two apiece.
Oh, and the Mavericks and the Jazz also tied up at two apiece.
Good series over there.
If the Bulls lose, which they probably will, I'm pulling for the Grizzlies.
So I'm hoping the Grizzlies win.
I like John Morant.
I like the Grizzlies.
And that's basketball.
Then in hockey, over in Hockey Dairy.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy, Dairy.
Yep.
There's getting close to the end of the season here.
In fact, are they at the end of the season?
It's pretty close.
Not yet.
I think they've only got a couple of games left.
Looks like Colorado's in.
Minnesota, St. Louis, Calgary, Edmonton.
With Los Angeles, Nashville, Dallas, Vegas.
All fighting for playoff spots.
And then the East is all set with Florida, Carolina, Toronto, Rangers, Tampa Bay, Boston, Pittsburgh, and Washington.
In fact, hold on.
Are there...
April 25th, 27th...
I guess May 1st is the final game.
So they still have another week.
This is their final week of hockey.
So that checks out.
And then baseball.
Actually, pretty fun baseball news.
The Cubs yesterday won 21 to nothing over the Pittsburgh Pirates.
You know what?
Poor Pirates, man.
Well, they actually won today 4-3.
They beat the Cubs.
It still doesn't make it good.
I'm sure they weren't like,
all right, let's put in our A team for this second game.
Yeah.
Well, currently the Pirates are 8-8, Cubs are 7-9,
which is better than I thought they'd do, to be honest.
Best team in baseball currently is the New York Mets at 12-5,
followed by the Dodgers, the San Francisco Giants up there.
You got the Yankees, Blue Jays up there, Seattle.
Didn't expect them.
Milwaukee, St. Louis, Colorado are all the big teams up at the top.
And then the NFL draft is next week.
Well, this week, I guess.
Pump for that.
I'm doing, we got our big week on our football podcast.
Three guys talk about football.
It's me, Sinvicta, Rob, Bear Taffy, Dumb Dog Sometimes.
I love, this is 100% a football podcast.
Dumb Dog is on sometimes.
You know, it's a football podcast. Dumb Dog is on sometimes. It's a good time.
We've done this podcast like four or five years.
Every year, the draft, we do a pre-draft show on Tuesday.
The NFL draft Thursday night.
We live stream it, but we can't actually stream the draft,
so we stream the draft page while stream the like draft page while having
the draft up on the other monitor. That's not
a bad idea. It's pretty smart. Yeah.
So we just react to it and it's
a good time and this is when we get hope.
We're like oh man our team just got some good young
players. Hopefully this will be it
and then you wait till August
to see if it actually plays out.
So this is going to be a fun week for the NFL
stuff and I'm pretty excited for that. And that's sports. to see if it actually plays out. So this is going to be a fun week for the NFL stuff.
I'm pretty excited for that.
And that's sports.
Okay.
Crandor, what is our fact of the day?
Fact of the day.
I found this one before we were even going to do the podcast today because I was just clicking on this and I was like,
that's pretty interesting. And you actually kind of did a little segue into it with the
uh-oh yeah mcdonald's introduced drive-thru service due to the military
what i didn't know this that's what i'm saying'm saying. The first McDonald's drive-thru was installed in a restaurant based in Sierra Vista, Arizona,
located near the Fort Huachuca.
I don't know how to say that.
Military installation.
Military rules forbade the soldiers from wearing their military uniforms in public,
and they weren't about to change into civilian clothes just to grab a burger and run back to base.
So restaurant manager David Rich came up with a solution.
Cut a hole into the wall and allow members of the military to pick up their orders without stepping out of their car.
The convenience and simplicity of the idea quickly caught on.
That's actually pretty interesting.
I had no idea that it was the military that gave us drive-thrus.
That was the internet too, right?
Because the military was using the internet
and then Al Gore was like,
oh, well, Al Gore,
and then it like went mainstream.
I think it's, I mean,
most things come from either the military
or, you know, the space race,
which was at the time,
NASA was kind of like a military thing
because we had to beat the Russians.
Like, yeah,
like most of the big technological leaps,
we as Americansicans at least
had during a certain period of time came from military tech yeah yeah so that's crazy and now
mcdonald's and drive-thrus yeah here we are the military not mcdonald's mcdonald's gave us the
internet mcdonald's gave us the military yes Yes. It's like Ronald McDonald.
It's like a military out.
They'd like grimace with him like, I got the bazooka.
Just Mayor McCheese riding a tank.
They're just trying to take down the Hamburglar.
Yeah.
Birdie with a semi-automatic.
Dressed in fatigues.
By the way, I know way too many McDonald's characters.
Like, way too many.
The Fry Guys.
Remember the Fry Guys?
Oh, yeah, the Fry Guys.
Oh, my God.
I feel like the Fry Guys would be like the fast attackers.
Like, they're on the ground.
They're the zappers, 100%.
Yeah.
Speed through to set C4s up.
Yeah.
So yeah, that's your fact of the day.
All right.
What is our big news story of the day?
Big news story of the day.
There were two that I found.
Both pretty, pretty short. So we can probably do both of them here okay uh we'll start with this one hungry javelina gets stuck in car goes for ride in
arizona what is a javelina i thought the same thing and if you look it up, it's like a warthog type thing.
Javelina is a warthog? What the hell?
It is a little warthog, except they are ugly as sin.
They're called a new world pig.
Well, here's the thing.
They're not ugly.
They're kind of cutie pies.
Oh, the babies are super cute.
But when they open their mouths, they're ugly.
You can say that for a lot of people. You're cute, but when you open their mouths, they're ugly. You can say that for a lot of people.
You're cute, but when you open your mouth, you're
ugly.
They're all javelinas is what they are.
Well, here's this guy.
Alright.
He jumped in to get a bag
of Cheetos only to be trapped
when the hatch closed to the car.
I've never
felt more represented.
Jumped in to get a bag
of Cheetos and got trapped when the hatch closed.
I feel like I've been
there.
I would say
the bear is
probably your most represented, but this is
like a close second. I'm very
animalistic, I think. I feel like I am one bad day away
from just joining my brothers in the forest.
Or in a trap in a car.
Or get stuck in a car, yeah.
A hungry javelina in Arizona
ended up going for a drive
when it became trapped inside an empty car
and bumped it into neutral.
Deputies in Yavapai County
responded to a call last week in Cornville,
a community 10 miles south of Sedona.
Little Cornville.
You know what's crazy?
I probably have driven through there, and I probably remarked something along,
because when I was driving past Sedona one time, I remarked to myself,
boy, that town was called, like, Jalapeno Town,
but there were no jalapenos, like that kind of thing.
I wonder if Cornville is like, yeah, there's not actually any corn here.
That does sound right.
It could have been Cornville.
Ten miles south of Sedona, about a javelina stuck in a Subaru station wagon.
Javelinas are pig-like animals that are native to desert environments. My man. of the dashboard and inside of a door in an attempt to escape the animal then
managed to knock the car into neutral causing it to roll down the driveway and
across the street yes where it came to rest and the javelina was not injured a
deputy opened the hatch and the javelina was able to run back into the wild I I very much very much like that
oh my god
that is I can imagine that pig
losing its mind as its car
the car is like slowly rolling away
or he's convinced he's got it
figured out or the pig
is like finally freedom
I mean that's
what happens you just want food and you
get trapped and you have to freak out and break stuff.
That's like what Cat does.
If he doesn't get food, he starts going crazy.
He starts knocking stuff off.
Stuff.
So that was that story.
Now we've got another big time story.
Woman rescued after falling in outhouse toilet trying to get phone
there's like two stories here but you have to go on uh this is in quill scene washington
a woman who accidentally dropped her cell phone into the hole of an outhouse in a national forest
and fell in while trying to retrieve it.
It had to be rescued by firefighters in Washington State.
Brennan Fire Department Chief Tim Manley said the woman who was at the top of Mount Walker
in the Olympic National Forest northwest of Seattle had been using her phone
when it fell into the toilet on Tuesday.
Manley said she disassembled the toilet seat and used
dog leashes to try
and get the phone.
I would have been like, it's gone.
It's gone.
And eventually
used the leashes to tie herself
off as she reached for it.
That effort failed and she
fell into the toilet head first.
Oh my god.
They didn't work Oh my god. firefighters passed her blocks to stand on to reach a harness which they used to pull her out of the vault the britton fire department said the woman was uninjured she was washed down and
strongly encouraged to seek medical attention after being exposed to human waste but she only
wanted to leave i've been doing this for 40 years and that was the first manly said
i how big is this outhouse?
I have so many questions about this.
It's got to be.
I got to look this up.
I mean, like falling in.
I know that you and I are both imagining she fell in.
It can't be that big of a fall in, right?
That's what I'm saying.
How deep does this thing go?
Like, okay, big outhouse.
There's got to be something.
Even like big outhouse.
They don't look like they go that deep.
I don't understand.
That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I don't i don't understand that's what i'm saying i don't i don't know i don't know dude
i i want to imagine it's way worse than it actually is because it makes the story a little
funnier but also i don't know how that can be possible like i'd put in how deep is an outhouse hole? And right now, it doesn't look that deep.
I'm going to type in biggest outhouse.
Biggest outhouse.
Really?
Two-story outhouses?
What?
Two stories
Oh these are ones built by people
Oh yeah
Also they built it for comic sake
Obviously you don't want to be below the two
Inside the world's largest outhouse race
That's not true
There's gotta be something out here
Old outhouse
Old outhouse
Worst outhouses,
outhouse Wikipedia.
Is there not just like...
No matter what,
they're not big. It's just a place to go to the
bathroom. They're not big.
Yeah. There's gotta be...
Okay, here we go. Somebody's gotta have some sort of...
Some sort of like...
Maybe largest, largest we go. Somebody's got to have some sort of... Some sort of, like... Maybe largest, largest outhouse.
Yeah.
Nope, still nothing.
It's still just a little tiny thing.
Head first.
There's, like, no...
I just want to see a picture.
I just want to know.
Premium outhouse.
It's still just a shack.
I don't know what.
All right.
Anybody out there that works in a place that knows about outhouses
or has some sort of outhouse knowledge, just anything,
give us some sort of information we we have to know is there like
is there what is falling into an outhouse really mean yeah because like everything i look it
doesn't even look like you can fall in that's what i'm saying like maybe she like stumbled in
but then like maybe her her tush got dirty. Like, what happened? What happened here?
Yeah.
And like, okay, maybe if it's a few feet deep,
I guess maybe you're like,
okay, okay, maybe, okay, hear me out.
Maybe it's a few feet deep,
so she couldn't reach the phone, right?
So she had to like tie herself to the thing so she could like kind of
lean in a bit you're stretching here this is a stretch i don't know i thought what she was trying
to do was use the leashes to like hook the the phone she was not herself well yeah she said she
was but then she decided to tie herself
To the thing with the leashes
And that's when she fell in because they just broke
Again again if you're tying yourself
To a thing with a leash
That is like when people hang off the ledge of a cliff
Like they need someone to hold them with a rope
So they can reach a thing on the other side
How far down was this
Yeah this has to be like
Way down there
And then to get stuck
Where are people pooping into a void? What is going on?
I have no idea.
Like I said, if you have any knowledge
just paint a picture.
Let us know. You have to tell us.
That's the news.
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