Crime in Sports - #11 - More Murders Than NFL Games Played - The Brutality of Robert Rozier

Episode Date: April 19, 2016

This week, we take a look at a man who nicknamed himself "The Gorilla Pimp", before running the full scale of crime, from collecting parking tickets, and writing bad checks across Canada, to ...murdering many people for reasons ranging from religious cult ritual, to simple annoyance. We can't wait for you to hear the pure stupidity of what finally put him away for good.Put on your flowing white robes, and break out your check book for the tale of Robert Rozier!!Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Tuesday!!Please subscribe, rate, and review!Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!Head to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Crime in Sports!For merchandise: crimeinsports.threadless.comCheck out James and Jimmie's other show: Small Town Murder Follow us on social media!Facebook: facebook.com/crimeinsportsInstagram: instagram.com/smalltownmurderTwitter: twitter.com/MurderSmall Contact the show: crimeinsports@gmail.comDonate on Patreon: patreon.com/crimeinsportsPayPal: paypal.me/crimeinsports See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:26 My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with... I am Jimmy Wissman. As always. And we are excited to bring you the scumbag of the week. This week, I hope you enjoyed last week's scumbag, Mark Gator Rogowski. Scummy, as we promised.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Plenty of scum. Plenty of scum. I mean, you don't kill your girlfriend's friend to get back at your girlfriend. That's just a dick move. Like a dirty shower. Plenty of scum plenty of scum i mean you don't kill your friends your girlfriend's friend to get back at your girlfriend that's just a dick move like a dirty shower exactly we stamp that dick move we don't like him so we're moving on this week uh before we do before we tell you about this guy uh just have to remind you please thank you guys for the reviews on itunes please please get on there rate review it helps us so much i know it takes like a minute and you have to like sign into your thing and it pops up please enter your password and you're like
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Starting point is 00:02:35 There's all these big stories out there, and we're going to get to Michael Vick, and we're going to get to Aaron Hernandez, and we're going to get to Pistoris, and we're going to get to all these big names. We're going to get to all that stuff. But these are the guys that people go, who's that? I never heard of that guy. They're all through the cracks. But it's the craziest shit.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I like the Sally McNeils, the Bruno DeSauzes. Those guys are like, who the fuck? I never knew that shit. Eddie Johnson. Did you know that guy existed? I mean, that's- Not a hundred arrests. Aren't you happy they're happier now that you know?
Starting point is 00:03:03 Well, this is one of those guys. He was an NFL player and we'll get into this. He's our most prolific scumbag. He doesn't have 100 arrests like Eddie Johnson, but what he got arrested for, and the numbers, it's heavy, and we'll get into it, okay? And there's a big thing behind it. This is a deep one, guys. Strap in, buckle up for Robert Ernest Rozier.
Starting point is 00:03:24 I love it. He was born in Anchorage, Alaska. Oh. oh yes he's not alaskan though he's a black dude he's a giant black dude um he's from alaska from alaska born july 28th 1955 uh his dad is an air force guy all right so they move around a bit uh yeah his college roommate says that you know he was like an air force brat type of thing for some shit in Alaska. Yeah, he said he comes from a really highly structured family. And they moved outside of Sacramento to Rancho Cordova, California, was where he grew up.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Goes to Cordova High School, where he is a monster on the field. I love that. I mean, on the field, he is nasty. He is 6'3", 240 at the time. Big ass salmon-fed man. It's a big salmon-fed guy. He's huge. Yeah, the town he grows up in, it's an Air Force town.
Starting point is 00:04:15 It's a mostly white high school. Not a great student. Oh. Not a great, and this will keep coming up, shocking. Not a bright man. Not a real good student. Not a real, doesn't really buckle down well, as we bright man. Not a real good student. Doesn't really buckle down well, as we'll see. Not good with the books.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Not good with anything that takes any kind of work. Actually, one thing he's good at, and we'll get into that later, that's what he went to prison for. So we'll get into that. But in high school, had a 1.32 grade point average, about a D, they said. So he's not doing too well. Not great at all. This is the best.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Athletic director of the high school, Guy Anderson, said, quote, he wasn't the kind of guy you'd want to take home and meet your daughter. Hilarious. That's what the guys in charge of the school think of this. Because he can't spell her name. Yeah, because he wouldn't be able to spell. He's known as a very, very aggressive kind of a guy on the field. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Real nasty. He's all league, all conference, all Northern California. He's got some combine stats here. Not from the combine, but from his, I guess, you know, tryout days or whatever. Something, right. He runs a.4740. That's pretty solid. He's a defensive end, so that's not bad.
Starting point is 00:05:21 He benched 375 pounds. Jesus. He's a big, strong, monstrous, scary individual. Never got his diploma in high school. Surprise. You are,
Starting point is 00:05:31 those glasses are hilarious. You look like Elton John right now. I left my prescription glasses in the car and I'm wearing prescription sunglasses at the moment.
Starting point is 00:05:40 They're big and he looks like Elton John and they're hilarious. They look like they're like the Gloria Vanderbilt collection. I have to see, goddammit. Jesus Christ. Okay, back into Robert Rozier They're big and he looks like Elton John and they're hilarious. They look like they're like the Gloria Vanderbilt collection. I have to see. God damn it. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Okay. Back into Robert Rozier who doesn't wear funny glasses. He didn't get his high school diploma. All right. Because he's not real bright. D average doesn't qualify. No. And the colleges wanted him athletically.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Yeah. And then they were like, oh, you don't have a diploma. You kind of need that to go to college. You don't qualify to go to college, sir. You don't qualify to go to college, sir. So he goes to Grays Harbor Junior College in Aberdeen, Washington. Basically, he didn't do anything academically here. What year was this? This is in the mid-70s, 76, I think, 75.
Starting point is 00:06:19 This is before 75. Aberdeen is where Nirvana is from, right? Or Kurt Dwayne is, right? Yeah, I think he's from there. The coach there, Bud Haik, said they spoon-fed him Mickey Mouse courses. So that's what he was going there for, to get his diploma. Now, they also said... It's a quality quote.
Starting point is 00:06:37 It's a quality quote. They spoon-fed him. And the other guy doesn't want him to meet his daughter. So these are quality quotes from coaches. I dug deep. So far, they're painting a very, very elegant picture of this man they are this is this spans articles that this is articles that span 20 years i found old news this is like just pieced together there's no real good comprehensive there's like timelines of the basic shit but not really deep so we're going to be the first, like Eddie Johnson here.
Starting point is 00:07:05 But here we go. He said basically he's in college here. He has still – his grades are terrible. The coach, Cake, again, the one who previously said they fed him Mickey Mouse courses, he ends up going to Cal Berkeley. Wow. Which is a great school. It's a fantastic school. Terrific school.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Really smart kids work really hard to try to is a great school. That's a fantastic school. Terrific school. Really smart kids work really hard to try to get into that school. At this point, there was a coach there named Mike White, who was later fired for recruiting people who don't belong there. Ineligibles. Ineligibles. Undesirables, as they call them. People with 1.3 GPAs. Yes, exactly. And this is what happened here. He got fired later for that. He had no comment on why he recruited him, Rozier, or guys like him. Coach Haik from the junior college said that he got snuck into Berkeley under the radar. Says, quote, he must have had a sugar daddy. Some silver-haired white man. I was going to say, something tells me Mike White is a silver-haired, middle-aged white gentleman.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I like it. Just a thought, just a guess. I'm not sure. Jammed six of those fellas into a laundry basket and snuck them into the gym. Good God, probably. That's the sad part. Like a jailbreak. He ends up being captain.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Or no, I mean the captain of the team is his roommate at Berkeley. This guy, Ralph DeLoach, is his roommate. And he said, I was assigned to be Bobby. They all call him Bobby. I was assigned to be Bobby. They all call him Bobby. I was assigned to be Bobby's roommate to keep him clean and out of trouble. We wondered what in the world he was doing there. They were all like, what is this idiot doing here, basically? He is not smart.
Starting point is 00:08:35 He does not fucking belong here. He also said that Rozier was the best athlete on the team. Really? Yeah, he said he was the best athlete on the team by far. Wow. Which, I mean berkeley back then yeah they they revived their athletic program now but back those guys with pocket protectors and yeah back then i don't know how to strap on a jock strap i think they were the most dominant
Starting point is 00:08:55 football team going and bobby here robert rosier was he was real like cocky he was saying well i'm gonna take you guys to the rose bowl and shit like that and it's like no you're not but uh he also said of bobby quote bobby was the ultimate manipulator he could tell you bald face straight out lies and he knew no one would ever call him on it as most sociopaths are and he is a sociopath um he felt so academically inferior everybody said that he felt academically inferior because he was right and this is a high level academic environment education wise they're tops And this is a high-level academic environment. Education-wise, they're tops, right? This is no joke. You actually have to go to class.
Starting point is 00:09:28 This isn't the University of Cincinnati. You know what I mean? You're in the science lab somewhere. You actually have to go to class. So he made a whole kind of persona for himself to make himself feel cool. And he called himself, this was his nickname for himself,
Starting point is 00:09:42 quote, the Gorilla Pimp. Oh, my God. Thisimp. Oh, my God. This guy. Oh, my God. Running around white-ass UCAL Berkeley as the Gorilla Pimp. Boom, the Gorilla Pimp. Self-proclaimed. Self-proclaimed Gorilla Pimp.
Starting point is 00:09:55 That's awesome. And picture the guys on the team with him as going to school, them like dorky white guys, like, oh, my, it's the Gorilla Pimp. That must have been wonderful to hear. This is my roommate, Bobby the Gor pimp this is bobby the uh he said that he ended up bob uh robert rosier deloach said robert rosier ended up getting a nice apartment in oakland yeah partied a lot sure dated a lot of girls yeah he said he used weed and cocaine recreationally it's the late 70s he wasn't using weed and cocaine recreationally i mean probably hanging out with eddie johnson at some point he He's in Oakland in the 70s.
Starting point is 00:10:25 There's probably more than one. Eddie would stop him by. Right. There's probably more than one gorilla pimp in Oakland. Yes, yeah. He was probably a gorilla pimp like four.
Starting point is 00:10:32 You know what I mean? The fourth. The first three come way before me. So he also said he carried a pistol at all times. So he was always, you know, he said a ton of parking tickets and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:10:43 In college. In college. He said, quote, ton of parking tickets and shit like that in college in college he was once he's he quote said quote he collected parking tickets so i mean that tells you something which whatever he said uh he was once arrested by sacramento pd for contributing to the delinquency of a minor but this is during college i mean he could have had a keg and there was a guy that was 20 i mean who the hell knows what that was so collected parking tickets so what did they collected them like it was a i'll trade you a double park for an expired parking meter. What are you talking about collecting?
Starting point is 00:11:08 That's crazy. He collected them, put them on the wall in a little frame. Maybe he made art out of them, like a middle-aged woman on Pinterest. He's got a quilt. He's got a whole Pinterest page. He could make a thing, and now it's a centerpiece. He's got a throw rug and an afghan. Thanksgiving, here I come.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah, it's ridiculous. I like it. He had a pit bull that followed him around named Nig. Oh, my God. He named it Nig. It became the unofficial team mascot. He would tell people when they would ask about the name, he'd go, just don't say the end of the word. But feel free to call me Gorilla Pimp.
Starting point is 00:11:41 But I'm the Gorilla Pimp. This is my dog, Nig. And then he'd say, just don't finish it up't and then he'd say just don't finish it up that was his quote just don't finish it up nig eventually was stolen from him somehow somebody stole his pitbull named nig which seems like a tough pitbull yeah you know nig the pitbull that's like if that was a cartoon character he would i'm running from that clifford the big red ass they said robert actually wept over the loss of Nick. I'm sure. I'm sure of that.
Starting point is 00:12:07 He became real politicized in college. Started getting into the African American studies type thing. Into the black studies. And started getting very angry at the athletic system, basically. And I don't blame him. Jesus Christ, these guys get to...
Starting point is 00:12:20 They put their bodies on the line. They could be crippled and lose their scholarships. Sure. I'm very on the side of paying athletes in the NCAA. They make enough, sorry, look at Alabama and their income and tell me that those guys on the line don't deserve a couple of bucks. But never mind.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Tennessee and Florida. Anywhere. Yeah. Miami. There's so many. TV networks, it's fucking ridiculous. They deserve money. You can pay Nick Saban $9 million a year.
Starting point is 00:12:42 You can ship off a few to your line. Yeah. $130 a week. Right. You can fucking break a few to your line. Yeah, $130 a week. Right. Anyway, all right. Beyond that, moving on. No degree when he left college, obviously. He wasn't going to graduate from Berkeley, for Christ's sake.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Let's be realistic here. You've got a dog that you named Nick. Yeah. You're out. We are not granting the gorilla pimp. No. He's not going to be the valedictorian. That would be a fantastic diploma to put on your wall
Starting point is 00:13:06 on your office the gorilla from berkeley it'd be wonderful it's that's like west coast ivy league basically but you're not so he's got a degree in like communications for he he moves on he gets drafted in the nfl here no kidding this is the very short career okay he's drafted in the ninth round which is only seven rounds now. But back then I think it was like 17 or some crazy 18. Guys used to get drafted in the 16th round all the time. So they get him deep in the draft. 228th overall in 1979 by the St. Louis Cardinals,
Starting point is 00:13:37 who are now the Arizona Cardinals, unfortunately for all concerned. He's on the team for six games during the regular season he plays in two games out of the six games he makes it half a season um it's said that he's released because of drug issues uh coach bud wilkinson said quote i don't remember why i waved him in 1985 because i don't know what the hell's wrong with the guy that's a very memorable man cardinals didn't do a background check on him, which is hilarious also. They could have just asked the Deloach guy, hey, what do you think of him? He would have went, well, he calls himself the Gorilla Pimp,
Starting point is 00:14:11 and he's the biggest manipulator I've ever met in my life. And he just had a dog stolen named Nigg. Yeah, his dog's name is Nigg. I don't know if you want to have him hanging around. He's a pit bull. And the Cardinals, this is how this franchise has been historically. Now they're good lately, but historically terrible. Terrible. And including then, they drafted him in the ninth round, how this franchise has been historically. Now they're good lately, but historically terrible.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And including then, they drafted him in the ninth round, but after him in the draft, they could have also got Drew Hill, the wide receiver for the Oilers and Rams. Who's now dead, by the way. Is Drew Hill dead? He did die, yeah. But he was in the league for 14 years. For a long time, yeah. Could have had Dwight Clark of the 49ers,
Starting point is 00:14:40 the one who made the catch against the Cowboys in 80. Yeah, they could have had him in the 10th round, in the next round, top of the 10th. But no, we'll take fucking the gorilla pimp instead. So he lasts very short. He's gone out of the league in six games. This will come up later. Remember the number six, please. Six.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Six is key. It's going to be funny later. Tries to go to Canada where he just runs into legal troubles. Oh, my. This is when legal troubles really start. No visa or some shit. You start to see a pattern emerge here. What do you mean I can't just come into the country?
Starting point is 00:15:11 No, no. You start to see a pattern emerge that comes back to bite him later. Oh, boy. He plays for the Hamilton Tiger Cats and the Saskatchewan Rough Riders. That's at the time when they had two teams named the Rough Riders, which is amazing. He played for one Rough Riders. He, Royal Canadian Mounted Police Sergeant Gary Proctor.
Starting point is 00:15:29 You know you're getting into the heart of the story when I start quoting police sources. Royal Canadian Mounted Police Sergeants. You know stuff's going to get good right now. He said the whole time he was playing ball here, he was writing phony checks. Oh, my God. And this comes back later. This is not his main crime, by the way. You're telling me that somebody with a 1.3 GPA doesn't know how to balance a check? No.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Amazing, right? He tries to hang out with this guy, Harley Deeks, who's the president of Molson's Brewery in Alberta. So that's probably like being president of the province at that point. That's like governor if you run the Molson. Right, right, right. They probably, you know. Molson and Labatt, right? Molson and Labatt.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Yeah, I think. Now, Canadians are going to be pissed off. We don't fucking know. You probably have a beer that you're more, is like a local thing for you guys. It's better. I'm sure it's there. Please.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Don't call us Bud Light drinkers either. Yeah, I have no idea what the fuck. I don't care anyway. So anyway, he hangs out out goes deer hunting with this uh with this um harley deeks all right uh rosier goes deer hunting with him one time and then tried to use his name to get a bank loan holy shit so that's awesome yeah harley deeks here said he was running a scam he used my name to get a bank loan he was running up huge bills He used my name to get a bank loan. He was running up huge bills and charging the whole mess to the football team.
Starting point is 00:16:52 All you need in Canada is just the name to get credit cards? That's awesome. Well, he runs the Molson Brew. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like saying, yeah, Barack Obama's my brother, and he'll vouch for me. I figured Harley was a smaller white man. That's crazy that you're here. Maybe, yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Yeah, exactly. A giant black man shows up and goes, yeah, I'm Harley, the head of Molson. Harley's my friend. This is my dog, Nick. Just write the check out to Gorilla Pin. So it's odd, but they gave him the money. He said he used my name to get a bank loan. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:17:16 He tried to get a bank loan. So amazing. And he said he's charging all his shit to the football team, writing phony checks on behalf of the team. I don't know what the hell this guy's doing. He's a disaster. He starts to get religious, which is the main issue of this whole thing here. But not, like at a football banquet up there, he gets real upset when nobody says grace.
Starting point is 00:17:35 It's like a big banquet setting. So he says, I'm going to say grace. And he says grace because he's gigantic. And everyone's like, if he wants to say grace. Somebody let the gorilla pimp speak. If the gorilla pimp wants to's like, if he wants to say grace. Somebody let the gorilla pimp speak. If the gorilla pimp wants to say grace, he's going to say grace. He leaves Canada in disgrace here. He is signed by the Raiders, fittingly enough, of course.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Who would sign you after you've been booted from the NFL after only six games? You're in Canada floating bad checks and getting bank loans under faulty names. What football team would hire a criminal? It's the Raiders. And he's such a fuck-up that he's cut by the Raiders after two weeks of training camp. Two weeks and Al Davis says, get the fuck out of here. That guy is
Starting point is 00:18:17 a bad influence. We will not address you as the Raiders. On Lyle Alzado. That's how fucking crazy he was. Like, he's a bad influence on Matusik, so we need to get him out of here. Insane. So, post-football, he just falls apart, obviously. That's all he's ever been good at is football. Everything else, he's a mess.
Starting point is 00:18:37 He's bad at school. He's apparently bad at parking. Things are not good. So, he goes post-football here. What else is it naming dogs dogs it's terrible at naming dogs good nicknames though for himself i will say that because i will say that love to be called the gorilla pimp that'd be amazing imagine you're such a big imposing figure that you say my name's the gorilla pimp and people go okay sounds right i'll call you okay gorilla pimp like if you told me to
Starting point is 00:19:03 call you the gorilla pimp i'd be like fuck you i'm not calling you the gorilla but if you were enormous i'd say gorilla pimp yes sir mr pimp so he drifts around the country passing bad checks all over the place um he's wanted in several areas for bad checks forgery serves a six-month jail stint at some point in there in Florida. And now at this point, he finds the Temple of Love. Now here's where shit gets deep, guys. And I have to preface this right away. The Temple of Love, the Yahweh cult as it's known.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I started this out, this research. I'm like, hey, cool. This is a crazy story. This guy did horrible things. I'm going to find out more. Let's do a story a story about him right sounds easy and fun and delving in i didn't know i was going to have to do just hours of cult research to figure out what the fuck these people are all about and why this all happened yeah but now i am fully fully versed in the yahweh cult so let's get into some cult shit, why don't we?
Starting point is 00:20:06 The Yahweh cult, first of all, before we get into his involvement in the Yahweh cult, let me give you an overview of the Yahweh cult. Yahweh is the guy, Yahweh means God, son of God. This is a guy that called himself Yahweh Ben Yahweh. So God, son of God, Ben, God, son of God. Which is repetitive and stupid as shit, first of all. By the way, we probably will be killed for doing this, by the way.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I'm not fucking around. As we hear later on, we are not going to be popular with these people for this. Or the other thing is, when you're researching, this is a black religion, too. The whole point of it is he's saying that black people are like the lost tribe of Israel, and they're the Jews of the Bible. That's this religion's whole point, and that he says the white people are white devils, and the blacks are the chosen people, and he's been saying that white people have been lying to black people about god to enslave them right you know that's their whole deal so when you when you delve
Starting point is 00:21:09 into a cult like this on the internet you're going to come across a lot of legitimate uh uh journalism on it of course because you're dealing with like a news situation of cult this was a big deal they killed a lot of people this cult you're also going to deal with just fucking oodles of white supremacist insanity so every fucking website i don't know i'm not a white supremacist i don't know white supremacist websites right so every website i would start to read one and i'm like this is really like who wrote this like what kind of a fucking journalist and then i'd look up what is this and i'd be like oh my god this is a white supremacist website holy shit now i'm on a watch list what the fuck and they're everywhere too there are more of them than you know then you're
Starting point is 00:21:54 you're shocking if you look up this shit it's half of that shit being like you know talking about this is proof that black people are it's fucking insane so. So I had to ascertain which one of the... What's legitimate journalists and which of this is... Because I don't want to quote white supremacy literature to you guys. And if you do Google it and look things up like this, you will have no surprise at all why Donald Trump is doing well in the polls. Yeah, because people are... There's a lot of racist lunatics out there that are super racist.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Not just like, you know, your aunt racist. They're like fucking insane. These websites are like super racist. Not just like, you know, your aunt racist. They're like fucking like insane. Like these websites are crazy, which I knew it existed, but I just didn't realize I was going to be dealing with me deep in the shit with this. So anyway, the Yahweh guy, Yahweh ben Yahweh, he grew up in Oklahoma. His dad was a Pentecostal preacher, which that's what this fucking cause is, basically, obviously. He, oh my God, how do I even get into this? He's like a Jim Jones type, basically. It's a Jim Jones situation.
Starting point is 00:22:55 It starts out simple enough. It's a church. Hey, guys, let's help out the community. And they would, like, people would come in, poor people, and they would give them food. Sure. And they would, like, go into neighborhoods and talk to the drug dealers and the kids and the drug people and get like drug dealers to be religious instead of dealing drugs they were kind of doing the bean pie yeah you know bowtie muslim type thing but like in a different way they have the long white
Starting point is 00:23:17 robes that they get later they're those people with the long white robes and big caps and so yeah they're these type of people so i mean it starts out simple and then this yahweh ben yahweh lunatic he starts really getting high and mighty like jim jones starts having sex with all the women oh boy everybody has to give away advantage give all their possessions over immediately um so the it's yulan mitchell jr is Yahweh Ben Yahweh. That's his real name. Old Yulan Jr. here. Mitchell Jr. He meets... Carry on the legacy of somebody.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Yeah, he meets... And ruining it. He meets Robert Rozier at some point, and a bad partnership is struck because he sees this Rozier guy as, holy shit, this guy's enormous. That's some muscle, yeah. He's some muscle, and, you know, that's...
Starting point is 00:24:01 If you need an enforcer type guy... That's beneficial. I might be able to use this guy that's my doorman for my church yeah and he works hard he works in the temple
Starting point is 00:24:08 they clean shit they stock the warehouse they do all this shit so these guys all work hard they're putting out materials they're putting out like you know pamphlets and flyers
Starting point is 00:24:18 and shit like propaganda by the name of these are funny names by the way these are really funny can I protect my child
Starting point is 00:24:24 from Whitey's evil influence? Whitey's evil influence. How do you take that seriously when somebody goes, please read about the Lord? What the fuck? Whitey. And then it says, white Americans are kidnappers and terrorists on the one.
Starting point is 00:24:43 That's partially true, I guess. But yeah, can I protect my child from whitey's evil influence is my favorite title of any... I want that framed on my wall. Anything. In my white house. Oh, my God. Don't you, though?
Starting point is 00:24:57 Along with your parking ticket collage? I want my kids to ask me questions about that. Oh, my God. Are we protected, Dad? That's so great. They tried to, they used, there was a police beating
Starting point is 00:25:11 in Miami of Arthur McDuffie, this guy. He was, I guess, I think a motorist. And they used this as like a catalyst to try to start riots
Starting point is 00:25:19 and shit like that too to stir up anti-white fervor. It was like a Rodney King situation except really pointed at like let's we can use this to our advantage.
Starting point is 00:25:28 So anyway. Start a race war? Is that their goal? Jesus. Their goal is yeah they want to get I suppose I don't know what their fucking
Starting point is 00:25:36 goal is. It seems like most cults that's like what they want to do. I mean Manson this guy. In reality though this guy really just
Starting point is 00:25:44 wants to dominate people. Make a shit load of money and have sex with underage girls basically. Is that Manson? This guy? In reality, though, this guy really just wants to dominate people, make a shitload of money, and have sex with underage girls, basically, and people's wives and shit. That seems to be the crux of what's going on here. That might have been the beginnings of it, but then... That's the way it always turns out. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, my friend.
Starting point is 00:25:59 It's just the way it fucking is. Robert Rozier changes his name to Neriah Israel, which means child of God. An abandoned fucking gorilla pimp? I was going to say, what an asshole.
Starting point is 00:26:10 What has gorilla pimping translated into this language? He should have used that. That would have been amazing. That's where you go. That's so great. That's where you go with this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:19 So this whole thing, holy shit, this gets crazy, man. This gets so nuts. Basically, this is a quote from Yahweh here. He says, If you reject my decrees and abhor my laws and fail to carry out all my commands
Starting point is 00:26:32 and so violate my covenant, then I will do this to you. I will bring upon you sudden terror, wasting diseases, fever that will destroy your sight and drain away your life. Oh, my God. This is to his followers, what he's telling them. Not to the infidels or whatever the fuck. This is the followers. That's like what I'd say to my kid when he doesn't take all the trash.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Yeah, that's the thing. Like he does something terrible and you threaten him. That's not like a greeting. No, this is what he's telling him. They're like, yeah, this sounds good. I'm going to give this guy all my stuff. I like the way you're talking, man. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Keep going. I'm listening. What's that? You piqued my interest. Yeah, okay. Keep going. Keep going. I'm listening. What's that? You piqued my interest. Yeah, okay. All right. Let's see here. Can you do anything about parking tickets?
Starting point is 00:27:11 I got a lot of them. So it gets really bad here. Basically, to just cut through it here, some members start putting out flyers against the cult. Some of the members start going, hey, what the fuck? And they start gathering off campus and they start like uh you know putting out little anti anti-yaweh materials and giving them to the cult people so this is that shit about yahweh telling us to give him everything yeah i don't know about that he had sex with tommy's wife that's messed up
Starting point is 00:27:38 dude i don't think that's cool so basically he had to yahweh had to get a circle around him of his enforcers and it was called the circle of ten and these people were to keep an eye on the followers they carried around machetes and clubs with them walking around the temple marching around the temple and so yeah they were scary
Starting point is 00:27:56 they were trying to say is it nine plus Bobby is that what it is not yet but he's looking at these guys like little kids sitting on the side of the park basketball going Plus Bobby, is that what it is? It's not yet. Bobby's not in this yet, but he's looking at these guys like, you know, like little kids sitting on the side of the park basketball going, I wish I could dunk someday.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Those are the starters, and he wants in the game. He wants in the fucking game. So they end up killing one of these guys. I don't think, Robert Rozier was not involved in this, but this shows you how serious these guys were. This was a cult member that left and then kept hanging around, talking to his friends and shit. 26- guy named aston green um he visited the temple and then left and then they beat him and stomped him and knocked him you know within an inch of his life yeah took
Starting point is 00:28:36 him out to a trunk of a car out to a rock quarry drug him out to a rock laid him down and cut his head off wow yeah against his protestations, from what I understand. Also, they said. Please don't. Yeah, it said they had... They took his head off. They took his head off, and this particular murder, the guy's blade was very dull.
Starting point is 00:28:55 He said it took about 25 hacks to get it going. And this was the thing. Yahweh wanted, when he told you to kill somebody, when you killed a guy in sacrifice to Yahweh, you had to take a part to bring back to him to show you did it. Wow. That was the thing. It was like the original ISIS.
Starting point is 00:29:12 That's basically kind of what, except it was like a Christian version. Because this is like a Christian religion, too. They go off the Bible. It's fucking nuts. They just translate it, which the Bible's nuts, too, but they just translate it into their own nutty fucking definition. Unbelievable. He continues to kill dissenters, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:29:28 At this point, shit's going crazy. You don't fuck with Yahweh. If you're in the cult, you're in the goddamn cult. I mean, if you want to leave, you better run, basically, because they're going to come mess you up otherwise. I'll find you. He forms a secret group, because he can't even trust his circle of ten now. So he forms a secret group called the
Starting point is 00:29:45 brotherhood okay they're the death angels as they're called this secret group rosier wants to be in this group bad right they all carry around 12 these 12 same 12 inch japanese knife with them right this crazy long dagger blade okay and between april and october of 86 they go into miami to kill white people that's how you have to prove yourself to yahweh to be in this little group was go out and kill white people and he said any old and what was it he said any old white devil will do he don't give a shit who you kill go out and kill somebody unbelievable so yeah it gets fucking interesting so yeah they have to bring back a body part. This is a man that used to play in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:30:27 He played in the... This man had the... At one point, he's enrolled... He could... He went to Cal Berkeley. He could have had a great diploma, went, played football, and then afterwards had an amazing career and been sitting around going to Hall of Fame banquets every year
Starting point is 00:30:43 and hanging out with his friends. Same thing with Jason Williams. This guy could have had the same life. Even if he wasn't a Hall of Fame player, he could have had a wonderful life with a great diploma and a nice family and instead he's go to Miami and kill the white devil.
Starting point is 00:30:58 That's what your coach would say if you're playing for the Raiders and you're playing the Dolphins. That's what he's going to tell you. Go rip somebody's head off. This guy really wants you to cut somebody's head off. This guy really wants you to cut somebody's head off. He wants heads, this guy. This is the path he took. He wants a part.
Starting point is 00:31:11 He doesn't get a head, a finger, an ear. An ear comes up big. Bring an eyelid. This is big with the ear. So we get to April 19th, 1986. Robert Rozier goes to Coconut Grove to find a white guy to kill, right?
Starting point is 00:31:24 It's a gay neighborhood at the time, Coconut Grove. I don't know if it still is. I don't know shit about Miami, but at the time, gay neighborhood. All right. He's following around groups of people looking for somebody who's, you know, vulnerable and easy target, obviously. You're not going to, you know, whatever. He spots a lone guy kind of stumbling, a little drunk, and he's like,
Starting point is 00:31:40 this is my guy. Found a white dude, right? Now, first of all, I would assume for a gay, like a Christian, black, religious cult, this is like jackpot. A gay white guy, that's fucking behind the arc, three-pointer, swish.
Starting point is 00:31:56 You know what I mean? And he's drunk, his blood's thin. That's the one, man. I mean, that's the one they want you to kill. Wow. And he's gonna bleed out fast. Yeah, so he follows this dude, follows him all the way to his apartment. When he goes to open his door, he bum rushes him in the door, stabs him up,
Starting point is 00:32:10 good in the apartment, stabs him in the heart, actually, hits the heart, kills him. Wow. There's another guy there, I don't know, his roommate or whatever, kills him too, another white guy, so he kills him too.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And then he says, shit, I want to take the heads. He says later, I wanted to take the heads, but I thought, how the hell am I going to get the heads out of the house and walk all the way back to my car with these heads? I mean, I can't do that. There's two heads.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Shit, this is going to be rough. He's going to carry them like six packs down the street. I'll just take the bloody knife to Yahweh and show him. So he took the bloody knife to Yahweh. Yahweh said, good job. Next time they'll get a part. I mean, what are we, fucking amateurs? Bring me something. Yeah, what are you doing over here, right?
Starting point is 00:32:42 The guys he killed were Glendon Fowler and Kurt Doerr. That was their names, these poor bastards. Yeah, didn't get any body parts on that one. But he makes up for this, though, okay? Makes up for this on September 6, 1986. Rozier and a guy named Carl Douglas Perry, they find a guy sleeping in the backseat of his car in an alley next to a bar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Okay, he's just asleep in the car. I'm done with that. He's a white guy, and they're like, hey, we'll just stab him. Yeah. He's easy. He's asleep. He's in target. He ain't going to move.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Stab the shit out of this guy and cut his ear off. They drop the ear. It's pitch black in this. This is the time when you really could use, like, iPhone. Yeah. Flashlights. They would really be helpful here because they're looking for an ear in an alley and they can't find it. They're like, shit, what are we going to do?
Starting point is 00:33:30 I guess cut the other ear off and take that. They just left that ear behind. The cops ended up finding the ear later on. And they're like, well, we found one ear, but the other ear is still missing. Abandon the ear. So they take the ear back. Yeah, stabbed him good. This guy was named Raymond Kelly.
Starting point is 00:33:44 And now there are three bodies in his wake. So now he's got three bodies. They take the ear back to Yahweh. Yahweh's thrilled. He's like, good job guys. So happy. Gives them the next day off from temple duties. They went and saw the movie Aliens. Good for them. Imagine them sitting there and they're like,
Starting point is 00:34:00 they're feeling good. You get a day off. Our reward. Let's go watch Sigourney Weaver. That sounds good. How about that, let's go watch Sigourney Weaver. That sounds good. How about that? Let's go watch a sequel to a great movie that's not so good. So then the 20th, this is like three weeks later, the 20th of September 1986, Robert and Ernest James and Dexter Leon Grant, they kill a guy named Cecil Branch. And Cecil Branch is a cult member that went a little astray.
Starting point is 00:34:32 And so now they cut his ear off too. And the cops are finding white people with their ears cut off. So they're thinking it's a serial killer who's got a specific victim profile. And then they find a black guy with an ear. And they're like, there's a fucking black guy now. Now what the hell do we do? This isn't the same guy.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Now what the hell's going on, right? So they're confused as shit about this. They bring the ear of Cecil Branch back to Yahweh. Yahweh uses it as a trophy to everybody. I assume when he's giving these fiery speeches, threatening death and pestilence upon them and shit. I'm not playing. Yeah, and so now all these people are are
Starting point is 00:35:06 dead there's also right before he gets caught here there's two men uh he killed they they own an apartment complex they're buying up property this is what these cults do they buy they're buying up apartment complexes kicking out all the residents they're gentrifying yeah this is what they're doing yeah and they're kicking out black poor residents too thanks for helping yeah you know what i mean good job with the community but this is like and then they're publicly too they're going around saying how they're doing good deeds or cleaning up the projects or getting these drug dealers out of there and they're also forcibly physical force forcing people out of their apartments and there was a couple of guys one guy specifically i think his name was anthony brown was a guy and a resident of the apartment he was just a young dude and they were interviewing him on the news he's like man i ain't
Starting point is 00:35:48 leaving shit he was like i'm not leaving i don't care what they say i like you need to evict me blah blah blah i don't i ain't seen no eviction notice so he was like i'm not leaving and he was you know he was just like screw that he didn't realize he was dealing with these people because rosier and a couple other guys came to their apartment and shot him and his friend and killed them wow so police arrive on the scene they flee okay robert rosier thinks he's home he jumps out of a car goes and runs in some bushes thinks he's home free yeah at this point starts taking a leak takes his you know pulls his pants down starts taking a leak yeah cops busted yeah he's caught with his dick out yeah and after he just murdered a couple of giant
Starting point is 00:36:30 gorilla pimp with his dick out yeah he turned around oh shit yeah so it was not a cool deal for him um yeah he's found with his dick out which is amazing now at this point they take him into custody and he's arrested yeah and so there's all these people dead. This guy's arrested. And you would think, like, I feel terrible for all these people. This poor guy just wanted his apartment. Yeah. The poor guy sleeping one off in the back of his car, for Christ's sake.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And I feel so bad for them, but I don't feel as bad for them as I feel for Robert Rozier from LinkedIn, As I feel for Robert Rozier from LinkedIn, a health care attorney at Baker and Hostetler LLP, specializing in strategic planning and clinical research compliant in the greater Atlantic area. That guy I feel bad for because you're going to look him up. He's on page two. Also, Robert Rozier, senior lecturer at Hans University of Applied Sciences and grown in the Netherlands. This poor bastard. Holy shit. Another one's a division seed manager in crop production services
Starting point is 00:37:28 in Prosperity, South Carolina. These poor bastards. Because I found them looking for Robert Rozier. So you might be a cult murderer if you're a seed... Oh, these poor bastards. So anyway.
Starting point is 00:37:43 He also, too, the guy I really feel the worst for is poor Robert Rozier that works for the street and sewer department for the city of Corcoran, Georgia. That guy, that poor bastard, because he's black, too, I really feel for him. People might go, hmm, is that him? Is that him? Yeah. Anyway, so he's arrested, clearly, for this.
Starting point is 00:38:02 This is Halloween night, 1986. He's arrested. At first, this. This is Halloween night, 1986. He's arrested. At first, he won't give them shit. He just says, my name's Neriah Israel. I don't know shit about shit. And he's quoting them Bible verses. That's all he'll give them. So they run as prince and do all that.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And they go, oh, this guy who was arrested before, because he did the six-month stint earlier. You're the bad check dude. Oh, you're the bad check guy, Robert Rozier, the ex-football player. Okay, we know you. Hilarious. So at that point, he says, oh, really check guy, Robert Rozier, the ex-football player. Okay, we know you. Hilarious. So at that point, he says, oh, really? Okay, well then, yeah, I killed seven people.
Starting point is 00:38:30 He confesses to seven murders at this point. They said he broke down. He cried about it. And he was like, yeah, I killed seven people. And then after that, he just said the rest of the time, he was just completely deadpan about everything for the rest of everything. Unbelievable. He confesses to seven murders.
Starting point is 00:38:47 He gets the Sammy the Bull treatment. The FBI has been investigating this Yahweh cult for racketeering, Rico shit, murder. They're doing like a mob investigation. They're like a gang. They're looking at him like a criminal business enterprise. They connected the dots and ears. Yeah, exactly. So now they're connecting murders to him also,
Starting point is 00:39:06 in addition to all this financial shit. Things are getting deep. So they want him to testify against them. So they offer him a deal. They offer him a 22-year deal. He has seven murders. Seven murders, of which he does 10 years of the 22. This guy has more murders than NFL games played.
Starting point is 00:39:24 That's his stat sheet games played six murder seven is awesome he's the first guy we've ever had that has more murders whatever it's amazing i'm i'm proud to present you guys this with all this that's amazing that he has killed as many people as all the people we've done so far put together holy shit isn't that awesome he he's like a voltron of jason williams ray caruth bruno de salza lawrence phillips jimmy snooker's the arm he's got all of their murders sally mcneil is wrapped into one wrapped into one so yeah he does 10 years for this uh and he gets 10 years 10 he gets 22. He does 10. There's more cases pending also going on. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:40:09 That's the breakdown of our system. I mean, granted, we get him to testify. Yeah. 10 years. It gets deeper. Unbelievable. He is in prison. And the federal government finally arrests Yahweh in 89.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yahweh Ben Yahweh. They arrest him. Or Hulan Mitchell Jr., let's call him. They arrest old fucking Or Hulan Mitchell Jr. Let's call him. They arrest old fucking Hulan Jr. And they have Robert Rozier as their star witness.
Starting point is 00:40:31 He's the Sammy the Bull. He's got to go into court and like he fingered John Gotti and said he told me to do it. And he goes in and testifies to the murders
Starting point is 00:40:39 that were done at his behest. By the way, he says, Rozier says he did six of the murders for Yahweh. Right. And the seventh was he says, Rozier says he did six of the murders for Yahweh. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And the seventh was a panhandler who just annoyed him. He said he annoyed him. He persistently kept asking for money and cigarettes and he said,
Starting point is 00:40:55 I just killed him and threw him in the water. I have the same guy asking me for money every day at I-17 in Peoria and I have not murdered him yet.
Starting point is 00:41:03 If you were Robert Rozier, you'd quote, kill him and throw him in the water. There's a canal right there. Because that's what he did. Well there you go.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Talk to Robert Rozier. He'll be in prison we'll get to his prison but at this point Yahweh hires a publicist. Wow.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Hires a fucking publicist like a comedian who told a rape joke at an opportune time. What an asshole. Like a rapper. Like a rapper.
Starting point is 00:41:24 He hires a publicist. He joins the Chamber of Commerce, which must have been fucking hilarious. Bearded black guy in a long robe and a hat hanging out
Starting point is 00:41:32 with a bunch of like 63-year-old fucking Rotary Club rejects. So, yeah, he hires that. He says, he's saying he's cleaned up neighborhoods.
Starting point is 00:41:40 He's doing all this. Weeks before his arrest, Miami Mayor Javier suarez honors him with yahweh ben yahweh day holy shit fucking day he has a whole day you know there was a podium and a key to the city was given you know it there was a cake you know there was a cake with this picture on it and like jesus is a black guy it was amazing and no it so and two weeks later, he was arrested. Two weeks later, he was arrested. 1992 is the trial. Rozier is the star of the trial.
Starting point is 00:42:11 It's in Fort Lauderdale Federal Court down in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. There's varying reports from different articles between 15 and 16 co-defendants. Yahweh and between 13 and 14 others. All but two of them wore the whole white robe veal into court, like the Manson family, basically. They did the whole Manson family thing where they showed a united front, which didn't work for the fucking Manson family.
Starting point is 00:42:35 They're all in prison still. Except for, what's her name? Just got out. Yeah, what was her name? Did she get like a... Leslie Van Houten just got out. Because she's going to die? I don't know. they've been in there for like 40 years already they're like old ladies you know
Starting point is 00:42:48 at this point what are you afraid that 68 year old ladies are going to come stab us you can't fend off a 68 year old lady you deserve to die you deserve to die
Starting point is 00:42:55 for Charles Manson at this point assholes anyway maybe they'd kill other 68 year old ladies that's possible that's a good point
Starting point is 00:43:01 they'd track down 68 year old pregnant movie stars if they existed find them so Rozier testifies against all these people year old ladies. That's possible. That's a good point. They'd track down 68 year old pregnant movie stars if they existed. So, Rozier testifies against all these people. Charges were from murder, conspiracy, RICO charges, firebombing, because they said they
Starting point is 00:43:15 firebombed a neighborhood that they were trying to clear the people out of. What was going on in the world that this was not headline news? This is Miami, mid-80s. There was also drug wars. There was literally... In 92, the fucking trial starts, though. Rodney King's going on across the country.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Was OJ's in the LA riots? 95. 94, 94, 94. But, I mean, the riots. I don't know why this wasn't bigger news, honestly. This should have been huge. I mean, it was big news, but you'd think it would be bigger.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Court TV wasn't around yet. Yeah, it was... That's the other thing, too. This is before. This is CNN just had gotten started. So this is before the 24-hour news cycle. God, this would have been a monster today. Today, this would have been big for like a day and a half.
Starting point is 00:43:53 It would have been the biggest thing in the world, and then it would have been hacky, and no one could make jokes about it anymore. So Rozier's quote on the stand, he said, we did everything from driving a bus to killing someone if necessary. Beating, hanging, burning, stoning, decapitation, whatever. stand he said we did everything from driving a bus to killing someone if necessary beating hanging burning stoning decapitation whatever that's a hell of a quote right there that is in their own
Starting point is 00:44:12 words yeah if i ever if i ever fucking heard it right there um he keeps going on yahweh calls rosier a serial killer yeah and said that he led a small group of rogue murderers that acted on their own uh which i don't know why they'd be cutting their ears off and giving them to you right which he seems to have an ear thing so i'm going to believe rosier on this one um he uh rosier here uh uh district attorney who's asked by the u.s district assistant u.s district attorney trudy novick on the stand how many people have you killed or helped kill? Rozier said, seven. Six of them were at the orders of Yahweh, and the sevens was a panhandler that annoyed me.
Starting point is 00:44:49 That was the one. He just says that right in court. He just blurbs that out in court. He said, I ended up killing him and throwing him in the water. Deadpan in court. He had a long braid coming out of the side of his head. That was his hairstyle that he chose for court. That appears to be a lunatic.
Starting point is 00:45:02 A Michael Jackson style choice of court attire. Recalled several other killing, stabbing, shootings that he knew of, that he saw, that he was there for, but he didn't do himself. Random white people, blacks that pissed off Yahweh. Fucking 7-Eleven clerk that wasn't friendly enough. It's insane. Yahweh's sister says that he raped her back in Oklahoma when they were kids, and he molested his daughters and had sex with other cult members.
Starting point is 00:45:32 There was cult members testifying that he would have sex with their wives, and he would basically run his own little harem. This is what happens when the pool of middle-aged, silver-haired white men runs out. It runs out. Yahweh needed one. He needed one at some point in his life. Yahweh and Rozier. They both needed one.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Rozier. Or actually, yeah, Rozier. God damn. Yeah, where was Mike White? They ran out. The faucet was turned off. My God. So spectators are kicking people out of the court
Starting point is 00:46:02 because they're like gagging from the tales of dismemberment. I can imagine. They're talking about hacking people up. And there's tail. I said like the 25 packs, this is the type of shit they're talking about in court. So people are freaking the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Regular court observers, you know, um, they had Rozier did, was under cross-examination for three days. Wow. Um, defense said that he'd do anything to avoid the electric chair.
Starting point is 00:46:22 And there was no physical evidence to corroborate his testimony, blah, blah, blah. The defense said, remember, because of his deal with the government, he's basically going to do 11 years in prison for seven homicides, which is true. Yeah. Which is absolutely true, but that doesn't seem to matter. The Yahweh on the stand in this trial, this is the most... He took the stand. Most of them took the stand.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Holy shit. Most of them took the stand holy most of them took the stand he he he they asked him to identify himself he claimed he was quote the grand master of the celestial lodge the architect of the universe that is some kind of business card right there huh that's incredible put that on your hell of a title yeah ballsy that's some kind of handle right there, boy. So anyway, it turns out this jury, I don't know what the hell they were thinking, but only half were acquitted.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Half were acquitted, half were convicted. Yeah. And none of the murders, they're only convicted on conspiracy charges. Unbelievable. Conspiracy, business, you know, money shit, basically. My bodies are turning up. All over the place. Nobody's unbelievable. Everyone's sentenced to like 14, 16 years.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Mitchell gets the old Hulan Jr. Here, Yahweh gets the most time of any of these people. Thank God. He ends up with 18 years. Wow. Which doesn't seem like a lot for all the shit he did. He's released in August of 2001 after only serving a little over 10 years.
Starting point is 00:47:44 He's out. Out. He's out. Out. He's out. Unbelievable. They're in Canada now. Wow. They're calling it their new promised land. They had a big conference after his release in Canada.
Starting point is 00:47:54 They're still recruiting. If you're interested, YahwehBenYahweh.com is where you go to sign up. I'm not shitting you. If you go to that, you'll get that. You'll also see about 18 white supremacist sites. He's out and Twitter is out. I want to look him up on twitter is it oh he's got to be at with that long ass title i'm probably yahweh ben yahweh.com all he gets to say all the only letters left he's got two left he just gets to say hi every day and they say some nasty shit
Starting point is 00:48:19 about rosier on that website they do not like robert rosier on this website uh now robert rosier he's released from prison this is when it gets really interesting okay guys he's killed over half a dozen people at this point he's only played six nfl games played in two he's been on the sideline in a uniform he played drinking the team gatorade for six games high five and after a good play yeah good kick man that's good good job hey nice job his helmet didn't even like get smelly that's how little he played there might be a scuff maybe so he is 1996 he's released from prison unbelievable uh so now he's out he's sent into the federal witness protection program because the yahweh people yeah never mind the
Starting point is 00:49:02 judgment and the the verdict yeah there's some scary folks that have killed a lot of people. So he's a little concerned. That was part of his deal. They give him a new name, Robert Ramesses. R-A-M-E-S-E-S. Wow. Ramesses. Stupidest fucking name you could ever give.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Give someone a name that they can pronounce. He can't even spell that. You could pick any name. Yeah. Any name. 1.3 GPA, you guys. spell that you could pick any name yeah any name 1.3 gpa you guys i bet you anything he suggested gorilla pimp and they were like we can't you you're official they know that one they know that one first of all second of what no you no you can't name yourself no the n-word is not a name i'm sorry so he comes out he's hanging out in sacramento it was like his hometown first of all like way to hide asshole first of all i mean yes your name your last name is different
Starting point is 00:49:53 it still starts with an r right your first name's robert and you're still going by bobby you're a gigantic guy that goes by the name the gorilla pimp like your people know who you are like so anyway he's not high no plain sight is takes us to another level um he owns a uh an auto dealing auto detailing business um he dabbled in some web design which i would love to see this guy on a computer going like myspace is not web design ro. You think this background looked better like this or like... He's got a 1.32 GPA. He's trying to put together fucking web design.
Starting point is 00:50:30 He's coding shit. He's coding. That's amazing. He's like, I don't like this HTML shit. I don't know. Good. I like another platform.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Ridiculous. So this guy... And he also said he helped raise two kids, which I don't know what that means if he had fucking some girlfriend's kids or sister's kids. He helped raise two kids, which I don't know what that means if he had fucking girlfriend's kids or sister's kids.
Starting point is 00:50:46 He helped raise two kids. Says he fears for his life the whole time. U.S. Attorney Richard Scruggs said about Rozier, quote, he is probably their most hated enemy. He is their Judas, their enemy number one. So he's under some heat, right? So what would you do if you were under this kind of heat you'd want to lay low yeah absolutely just kind of stay out of pay your bills and be quiet um he doesn't do that no what he does instead is he starts writing bad checks again he starts
Starting point is 00:51:17 writing bad fucking checks and he writes several bad checks, starting with getting arrested for, I believe, a 60-something dollar check for car repair. Is what he gets arrested for. A bad $60 check at this point. You can't just be like, I'll trade you detailed trade favors for it. I'll detail a car instead. It's fucked. So he gets arrested for it. You know, I'll detail a car instead. It's fucked. So he gets arrested for that. They end up taking him in
Starting point is 00:51:49 and they find out he tells them who he really is. Yeah. He says, look, and he thinks he's going to get out
Starting point is 00:51:55 of the whole thing based on the fact, this is his quote in their own words, quote, I took the Eldorado, Eldorado's where he got caught, okay,
Starting point is 00:52:03 I took the Eldorado detectives into confidence and let them know who I was. I was a guy who had cooperated with several police agencies and the United States government. I figured they'd think, let's not blow his cover with this check charge. Let's do him a quick favor. Wrong. No. No.
Starting point is 00:52:19 They instead see this as, we can charge him with a felony. Yeah. Because they tie back a bunch of other bad checks from the past. Yeah, absolutely. So you're a murderer. All over the place. We don't do murderers favors. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:33 So he thinks that they don't want to blow his cover because he's such a wanted, you know, deep guy. Sammy the Bull was wanted by the Gambino family. Yeah, yeah. And they still put him in jail when he dealt ecstasy. Right, on ecstasy charges.asy yeah so this is not going to work for him um it's it's fuck man they said if he had no record it would have been a misdemeanor yeah but the fact that they could get him with a felony this is his third strike oh no that's that they're going to nail him on they're going to try to get him with the third felony so
Starting point is 00:53:01 prosecutor says prosecutor paul sutherland said and this is uh he says i quote i think this case really tests the limits of the three strikes law we're going to do everything we can to put him away it's just unfortunate that the state of florida couldn't do this so they want his ass bad basically he's in deep over sir he is in deep shit man and he he's making excuses too he's at this point he starts doing interviews also he says uh he says a few things here let's let's he's trying to make excuses for the whole cult business let's see here quote uh rosier says quote it was hammered into us 15 16 hours a day by men about men being lynched and women being
Starting point is 00:53:43 smashed down and babies being torn apart. Isn't that how they train the Marines? By dehumanizing the enemy? What the fuck? Yeah, like the Marines. But this isn't the Marines. You're in a temple in Miami. I don't know if they tear babies apart in front of kids at boot camp.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Jesus, man. What are you talking about? He says, let's see here. Neriah Israel is long dead. I don't know how else to explain it, but that person is gone. In other words, I'm good now. It's the Eddie Johnson getting out of rehab. No, I'm good now.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Cocaine! Where's the cocaine? It's the same thing. It's the exact same thing. So, yeah, it ended up being, all the checks that they linked in, there were 29 other bounce checks for a total of $2,000. Two grand. This is not like he was buying Lenny Dykstra.
Starting point is 00:54:32 No, he wasn't buying Wayne Gretzky's mansion. Right. He's not renting a private plane on an assistant's dime. He got a car repaired. He probably got a pizza at one point. Like, some plumbing supplies and a sink broke. That's what he was doing. 29 checks adding up to two grand.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Those don't even average a hundred bucks. His bail for this is set at $10 million. Holy shit. You know, because he killed seven people at one point,
Starting point is 00:54:54 I would imagine. Rozier said they should have let him go because of his testimony. He didn't understand it. He's like, I don't understand why I'm in jail right now.
Starting point is 00:55:01 It's not lifetime, you idiot. That should be a pass. He watched on the wire when they gave Omar the get-out-of-jail-free card, and he's like, Bunk gave Omar a card. Like, I can, what the fuck, man? Where's mine? Where's mine?
Starting point is 00:55:14 Like, I got the Yahweh people. Jesus. He said, quote, Rozier said, quote, the U.S. government says this man has a whole new identity, and El Dorado County says, no, he doesn't. If you have a man with a homicide charge, why spend this much time on a check case? It should have been taken care of a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Now, he says this about a homicide charge because at this time, he is being investigated by the Essex County in the state of New Jersey for a 1984 homicide of a homeless man. Yes. A homeless man named Attilo Cicala. He, they said,
Starting point is 00:55:48 they've been investigating this. They said that when Yahweh had a thing going on in Newark, Rozier was up there killing the guy
Starting point is 00:55:55 for him as a sacrifice. He's a homeless white guy they just found on the thing. Attilo, you paid with your life but you may have done us all
Starting point is 00:56:02 a big favor. They indict him actually in a Coasease conspirator in 1999. In 2000, though, they have to drop the charges on this 84 murder. He gets off because they said they had insufficient credible evidence to proceed. They said a suspected accomplice, him and John Armstrong and Rozier, they said they couldn't charge him because some witnesses were dead, some were deported,
Starting point is 00:56:25 and some made contradictory statements. So there's no way to nail the whole thing down. So he's fucked on that. Also, too, at this point, authorities in New York City and St. Louis were investigating possible links to other homicides they thought he did everywhere. So this guy said he did seven
Starting point is 00:56:40 because I think that's what he knew could be proved, probably. And then there might have been a lot more. Like this guy, we don't know how many fucking people this guy killed, said he did seven because i think that's what he knew could be proved probably yeah and then there might have been a lot more like this guy we don't know how many fucking people this guy yeah but he was an angel of a death angel yeah was his that was his code word or whatever right was what he called himself yeah in the death angels so i mean this guy holy shit and he says about the whole thing look i quote i am the first to come to grips with what happened. I'm not living in a psychotic world. I'm living in a real world.
Starting point is 00:57:10 And having to face myself, I have grieved more than any human being can grieve. He's the victim here. Yeah. Poor Robert. He's calling it. Oh, poor Robert. Boo hoo hoo.
Starting point is 00:57:21 It's very Lawrence Phillips. I've grieved so much. And you still keep giving people bad checks and he's saying he's scared that that the Yahweh's are going to kill him
Starting point is 00:57:30 and he says the county has no idea of the Pandora's box they've opened on this whole thing which I don't know if that's true because now
Starting point is 00:57:37 he was sentenced Judge Eddie T. Keller said it was probably he says to Eddie or Eddie that's his name the judge's name Judge Eddie T. Keller said, it was probably, he says to Eddie, or Eddie, that's his name, the judge's name. Judge Eddie T. Keller says to Robert Rozier,
Starting point is 00:57:49 as he's sentencing him, this is fucking wonderful, because you want somebody to really rub it in at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Turn the knife. He says to him, it was probably one of the greatest gifts, Mr. Ramsey's. You were home free.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Free of the death penalty, free of those cults, and you went back to committing crimes. Unquote. He said everything short of saying, you dumb fuck. What have you done to yourself? Bailiff, kick him in the balls. You, sir, are an asshole. He is sentenced under the Third Strike Law to 25 years to life.
Starting point is 00:58:23 It's over. It's done. done done and done so he kills seven people yeah gets 10 years yeah writes a minimal amount of bad checks two grand life in prison that's it holy shit this country you would say it's like that's it's like a reverse sentence well it's almost like you'd say it's what's right and what's wrong with the three strikes at the same time you're like a guy shouldn't go to jail for life for writing a 60 car part check that would fucking bounce but at the same time yes 10 years for seven right yeah so it's like 10 years for seven he's just he shouldn't have gotten that either so it's amazing so yeah averaging outright amazing it's so funny he was like i trusted them with my identity i told him i was Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And they were like, we don't care if you're Spider-Man. How does that work? Unbelievable. I don't get it. Like, he was just not the brightest guy in the world, basically. And he has been saying how remorseful he is for the killings. I'm not that guy anymore. I'm a regular guy now.
Starting point is 00:59:22 I'm a bad check. I'm okay. I passed bad checks. I had problems the killings was all it was all yahweh right whatever but he seems like a dude who kind of liked to he seemed to enjoy the killing you'd think if if you do it once and you don't enjoy it i can't imagine you're going to do it again no and he went and did it six more times so he could be led easily because this is this yahweh calling it wasn't like it was any, it wasn't like come over here and we party and we have the hot girl.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Like they took all their money. They had to pool for like general resources. They homeschooled each other's kids. They had to stop shaving in Miami. How hot and humid it is in Miami. Gross. Imagine walking around Miami with a big thick beard, a thing on your head and a long white robe. A big heavy long white robe.
Starting point is 01:00:04 It sounds disgusting. Yeah. A big heavy long white robe. It sounds disgusting. Women couldn't wear hair products. They got black women to put away the hair products. You know the kind of power you have to have
Starting point is 01:00:15 over a black woman to tell her what the fuck to do with her hair and have her be like, okay, I'll just let it go. If you use the relaxer
Starting point is 01:00:23 you're dead. Is that enough? And they all had to basically, all of them changed their name to Israel. That was the common last name. Horrible name. We all have to be Israel. None of us can be Pimp is their last name.
Starting point is 01:00:33 This sucks, man. Shitty fucking, this is miserable. It's getting worse. It sounds just like everybody's hot and sticky and living in one place. They had cubicles set up. That's how they lived. It was like cubicles. They were open
Starting point is 01:00:46 so everybody could see everybody. So it was like, yeah, sweaty, smell like balls in there. And I got to see them. Oh, it's just ball sweat. It's Christian Muslim. Beard. That's the worst. Yeah, that's basically what they were. It was bad. And it's going on
Starting point is 01:01:02 in Canada. Still going. I don't know where, I don't know how many black people they have in Canada. They might have all of them by now. Yeah, probably. Because there's not, there's a very limited amount of black people in Canada. But yeah, and they were spreading too. In the U.S. at one point,
Starting point is 01:01:15 they had over like 300 members in Miami. And then they had them in other cities everywhere. Newark and... Spreading. Yeah, they were, he was going opening up chapters. That's why they were investigating murders. Because wherever he went
Starting point is 01:01:25 people would kill people as a sacrifice to him. So insane. So yeah, that's Robert Rozier, guys. There it is. We promised you crazy. That's some murdering crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Yahweh's out there and Robert is not. No, Robert's in prison. Like I said, you can hit Yahweh Ben Yahweh up and talk to him. Ask him about it all you want, guys.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Don't mention us, please. Don't mention us, please. And also, too, who will kill us first, the white supremacist groups that we've made fun of or the black supremacist groups that we've made fun of? Which one will kill us first? Now, this is a race war everyone can embrace. It's a race race. Race to us, guys. It's a race race against time to kill to us, guys. It's a race race against time.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Who can kill us first? Who can kill us first? Yeah, it's okay. But we'll be protected by the crime and sports listeners. Can't wait. You guys are shielding us. Thank you. Also, too, give a shout out to a couple of people.
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Starting point is 01:02:59 And please join us next week. We are going to... Next week, we're going to do Ryan Leaf. We were originally going to do it this week, but I'm an idiot and I mixed up the week of the NFL draft. So we're going to do it next week for the NFL draft. We're going to give you the biggest NFL draft bust in history.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Yeah. And it's going to be like a light, fun one. Yeah. He didn't kill anybody. But he's just a complete idiot from start to finish. And there's a lot of crime and dumb shit.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Really fucked up. It's just, this Ryan Leaf, you can't have the world more by the balls than this guy. And just go, nope, don't want it. Nope, just want to be an idiot. Throw it to the next guy.
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