Crime in Sports - #144 - The Choking Yachtsman - The Seaworthiness of Latrell Sprewell

Episode Date: January 8, 2019

This week, we try to catch our breaths as we careen down an icy slope of disaster. He was The American Dream. He came from a tough background to make himself world famous, and $100 million ri...cher, but it all came crumbling down in the end. From attacking teammates & coaches, to hurling racial slurs & thinly veiled threats against police officers, to blowing the equivalent of the gross domestic product of a small nation on yachts, houses & stupidity! Make yourself $100 million, choke your boss, and end up penniless with Latrell Sprewell!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:03:33 I'm so hungry. That sounded like you were describing a hamburger. With a nice big steak. A big cheeseburger. Well, this is a crime and sports filet right here. This is a beautiful, not even. You know what this is? Not a filet.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Because a filet doesn't even have any fat on it. People are going to wrap bacon around it to get any goddamn flavor in it. A filet on its own is fine for me, but I prefer a ribeye. All right. This is like a juicy, like 18-ounce marbled, beautiful. Tomahawk. Yeah, with the fat seared perfectly, you know. That's what we have tonight right here.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Almost caramelized gristle. Oh, it's beautiful. It's beautiful. Let's get into our caramelized ribeye for tonight. That is Latrell Sprewell. Oh, right. Oh, baby. You know, Latrell Sprewell out there.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And everybody out there listening, because this is somebody you've heard of, fucking listen to the people that you've never heard of. It doesn't matter whether you've heard, just because you remember Latrell Sprewell playing a few times will not make the episode more enjoyable for you. I promise you some of our best episodes that the people who listen to all of them like the most are people that you've never goddamn heard of. Step outside and listen to a fucking story you don't already know.
Starting point is 00:04:42 But you don't actually know this. This is like Tanya Harding. These are people who are famous for one giant incident, but around them, that's the wave, but there's so many ripples in the water around it, it's not even funny. One of our ladies is his cousin. One of the ladies that listens to this show is Latrell's cousin. Well, hopefully she won't be mad at us. I'm sure she'll be jacked about this.
Starting point is 00:05:01 We're going to be fair, because I like Latrell Sprewell as a player. He was a great player. Fuck, he was awesome. He's a hard guy not to like on the court. He's just a guy that you go... Left it all there. He left it on the... He played hard.
Starting point is 00:05:13 He's like 10th all time in minutes played in the NBA. Really? Yeah, he played heavy minutes. He played defense. Is that right? Absolutely. He could do it all. He could do it all on the court.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Let's talk about it. Latrell Fontaine Sprewell. What a shit name. That is amazing. Well, do it all. He could do it all on the court. Let's talk about it. Latrell Fontaine Sprewell. What a shit name. That is amazing. Well, that is amazing. September 8th, 1970, he was birthed upon the world, we'll put it, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. His name sounds like either an as-seen-on-TV salesman. That would be amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I'm Latrell Fontaine Sprewell for pocket fishermen. For Mighty Putty. You ever walk in by a pond and you see just a giant 14-pound trout swim by and you go, darn it, if I only had my gear. Well, now you have your gear all the time. I'm Latrell Fontaine Sprewell for pocket fishermen. Wow, what an amazing. Did he just make that product up?
Starting point is 00:06:03 No, that's an old Ron popeil product from the 90s that he used to no that's not something or a or a jazz musician if i made that up yeah we'd be selling that tomorrow i'd be like that's a great idea we're gonna sell that by the way nobody copyright 2019 so oh man that's's incredible. That's something. So Latrell here, he's born in Milwaukee, which is the hometown of his mother, Pamela. But he grows up in Flint, Michigan. Okay. His formative years are spent in Flint, Michigan.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Well, that makes sense now. It makes more sense. Yeah. When he was a kid there, they were pretty poor. And then he said, when he was a little kid, he noticed that all of a sudden they having nice things yeah around the house and then they weren't poor anymore and he was like what's going on and he found out oh it's because his dad sold weed so his dad was like i well fucking you know what good for him he was like i got a family to support times are fucking hard and you know it's at least it's just weed the 70s he's like i'm gonna goddamn go out and make some money on the side for my goddamn
Starting point is 00:07:05 family. So good for him. And he spent it on the family. That's awesome. That's what I'm saying. Good for him, man. You got to take care of yourself. Hero stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Hey, you got to take care of your goddamn family. Sometimes you make decisions. Hey, you know what? It's better than having nothing, I would say. He's not out killing people. He's selling weed. Right. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Leave him alone. It's ridiculous. Yeah. He's making people hungry. Which was thought of as a horrible thing in the 70s to sell weed in Wisconsin, but now no one cares anymore. There's a lot of, you know. Give it a decade.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Somebody's going to make that city much worse. Oh, Jesus. You know it. John was about to wreak havoc on your town. Weed is nothing. That's when they're going to go, let's overlook the weed. Let's look for people who might have other people, say, in their appliances at home. Let's look for those people.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Never mind. Or a vat of acid. Never mind the Spreewells. Someone who's making a shrine to dead children. Let's look for those people. So, yeah. He said, now, there is not a ton known about. For a famous guy like this, usually these famous
Starting point is 00:08:05 guys, we know everything about their childhood. But for Luttrell, he's about as private a guy as you're going to find in this whole thing. He will tell the press things that are misleading so they don't know. On purpose? Even if it's not anything that he needs to hide. He just seems to be like, on purpose, he on purpose, this is my private life and I'm not giving you a fucking inch. Which I kind of admire.
Starting point is 00:08:32 You know me, I'm kind of a private guy. But a man played in the NBA in the 90s and wanted to have a private life. That's where things clash with Luttrell. That's the thing about Luttrell. If you take about two hours out of his entire life, he did wonderfully. It's just this two hours of his life scattered out in different periods that really
Starting point is 00:08:52 fuck it up for all of them. And there's a reason why we don't know a lot about his life, and we'll find it out here. He says, quote, I'm not into having people talking about what I was like as a kid or what I did way back then. That's one of those things I always knew I wouldn't like about being in the public eye. I never asked to be famous.
Starting point is 00:09:10 So he said this at the All-Star Game in 1994 while he was an All-Star. The most famous part of his career. Yeah. And the NBA was huge at that point. A juggernaut. Everybody watched the All-Star Game and the dunk contest. I don't know anybody. If you went to school and you didn't watch the dunk contest you really you couldn't talk to anybody all day
Starting point is 00:09:29 because that's all the girls would talk about everybody was talking about that was the time that the nba was its biggest that was huge there's no way it's anywhere near that right now even with the it's tough to to be as big as they were then when you don't have fucking stars on every team. You could go to a Bangladeshi village in 1996 and show a picture of Michael Jordan. The kids would fucking know who it was. Period. That tells you a lot. Shooting baskets into a milk crate with some fucking, it was a bowling ball.
Starting point is 00:09:59 They didn't give a shit. I just don't see, I mean, I suppose they probably know LeBron, but I don't see like, you know, Steph Curry. And I don't even see that. If you showed them to Bangladeshi kids, they'd be like, I don't see, I mean, I suppose they probably know LeBron, but I don't see like, you know, Steph Curry. And I don't even see that. If you showed them to Bangladeshi kids, they'd be like, I don't know. Draymond Green's face is so forgettable. Well, yeah, he's not as good as those guys either. He's kind of a dick as we've talked about before.
Starting point is 00:10:16 KD, another one. I mean. He's not famous. Like those guys, Jordan, Barkley, like Larry Bird. Those guys were like iconic. They, Larry Bird, those guys were iconic. They were Mount Rushmore kind of guys. Their faces, they're like cartoon characters. You see them on those t-shirts with the big heads, the big caricature t-shirts.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Jimmy Butler, forgettable. That's what I mean. All these guys. Embiid, forgettable. There's a lot of these. They're great players. Oh, terrific players. I know what they look like because I watch them.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Yeah, they're great. If you don't watch the not it's not you can't pick them out of a lineup now i'm sure probably more people watch the nba now because it's big in china now so i'm sure if you can add like 300 million and that's like not much over there and then i'll push them over the top but i feel like it as far as cultural impact yeah the 90s was like if jordan made a commercial where he did something right that's what people i mean that was it that was the thing so it's it's just different now that's the other point too is that like mountain dew doesn't use those people now pepsi doesn't use those people now well you mean lebron you people sounds terrible you that sounds horrible use you
Starting point is 00:11:20 people they use fine upstanding white folk now are you talking about that sounds like a dickhead that's they don't use like athletes as much anymore it's not it's not that's not the face of the brand i don't know what they i don't know is it because of the of our fucking show because what we're doing maybe but i think i they do use them a lot you see them everywhere i think it's the athletes too are more like uh like athletes get shit if they rep McDonald's now. They get shit from people. Because you're poisoning kids. You're poisoning kids.
Starting point is 00:11:50 If you rep soda, I remember them giving LeBron shit for doing Sprite commercials. Well, that is a good point. Now, as a company, you're resting your image on somebody who you don't know what the fuck they're going to do. Yeah, yeah. And then as an employee or as an athlete, you're resting your image on a company that you don't know oh you're both entering oh that's a total it's like a it's a tinder date yeah what they're doing they have no idea where that person's been exactly what they have what they're going to pass along to you what kind of you know cultural std they're going to give you it's crazy how much trust these employees are these companies and these athletes put in each
Starting point is 00:12:23 other there's no other choice because of cash yeah there's no other choice well i mean if a basketball player goes out or whoever whatever athlete goes out and uh you know murders five people they don't really hold the product responsible for unless they use the product to do it like if yeah if jared like fucking stuffed a six incher up the up to a bunch of kids asses subway would have been way more injured by that whereas otherwise they were just like we don't know shit about that guy i don't know he was just a fat guy we don't know anything about him if larry burton michael jordan took turns beating their wives with big macs yeah right that would have been a different story it would have looked bad at that point but jordan could gamble and yeah and do all that shit arrested with jordan's not a
Starting point is 00:13:03 good guy no he's really not. He's a terrible person. But he has the best PR in basketball. That's a difference between him. Lachelle Sprewell had his PR. Yeah. Because, I mean, Michael Jordan's punched people in practice. Sure. Lachelle Sprewell, we'll talk about, had some issues in practice.
Starting point is 00:13:16 There's not a lot of difference between the two men except for Jordan is a better businessman. Right. That's all there is to it. Well, Jordan and Tiger Woods have mirror image fucking careers, and they're both the pinnacle of their sport. Private lives private. They don't talk about politics. They don't do anything.
Starting point is 00:13:32 They don't use their positions. But Tiger Woods gets caught doing what he's doing. Exactly. Michael Jordan did all that shit multiple times. But then also, Michael Jordan, when he got caught doing all that shit, he was at the peak of his powers. That's a good point. Whereas Tiger was starting to fade.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah. So you're going to pile on. whereas if you're on the upswing you're teflon man it's impossible so apparently during latrell's sophomore year of high school his father latoska fields is his dad's name that's his dad's name latoska you have to be a tough motherfucker to have to go by latoska that sounds like a tough motherfucker to have Latoska Fields. Latoska. That sounds like a tough motherfucker. Yeah. Latoska. I'm not picking on him.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Jimmy, man. Yo, I would watch out tonight. Latoska Fields is coming to fuck you up. You'd be like, Latoska Fields? Oh, shit. How old is this guy? How far has he gotten through life with that name? Wow, this is scary.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Because if he's 12, I'll take it. And he's from Flint. I'm not fucking with that man. He's a tough motherfucker latoska from flint so during his sophomore year now his parents broke up question yeah why okay you're getting there go on sorry i don't want to interrupt you think it might be coming in the story i'm just wondering why the fuck latrell's got spreewell while dad his mom's name is spreewell oh and his parents were had a content
Starting point is 00:14:45 contemptuous relationship and they have yeah we'll talk about this okay he says that uh he stayed with his mom until just after uh his parents broke up when he was like seven eight years old he said uh but he would kind of stay back and forth between them he said he stayed at his with his mother until just after sixth or fifth grade and then he said he went to stay with his mother until just after sixth or fifth grade. And then he said he went to stay with his dad after that. So between sixth grade and tenth grade, he was with his dad exclusively. And then his dad got sent to jail for selling weed. All right. So he had to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:15:17 So he sounds like the bad neighborhood of Flint. Yeah. Oh, shit. That's Latoska Fields over there. Don't go over there. Where are you looking at a house? No, not Latoska Fields. Don't go over there. Where are you looking at a house? No, not LaTosca Fields. No, don't get one there.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Stay. Fuck out. That and any of the adjacent neighborhoods around LaTosca Fields. You don't want to fucking be in those. Don't go into that Latrell Fontaine area either. That shit's rough. Latrell Fontaine sounds like it might be upscale. The Latrell Fontaine district sounds decent. It's always... The places that are nice, they don't sound as ritzy. No, no, no. That's true like just like apartment complexes they call like these great these shit apartment
Starting point is 00:15:50 complex like sierra grande and it's a piece of shit it's like white men can't jump what did they say it was vista views yeah and she said i don't see no vista and i don't see no motherfucking views and no vista which is ain't no by theucking views in no vista. Ain't no views in no vista either. By the way, vista views, isn't that the same word? Isn't vista view in Spanish? Sort of. I guess a view of a nice view is what, because I feel like a vista is more something you look at, not look through.
Starting point is 00:16:16 It's Spanish for view, isn't it? I don't fucking know what I'm talking about. What the hell do I know? I don't even speak Spanish. So he stays with his grandparents until the end of his sophomore year down in Flint, finishes out the school year, and then moves back to Milwaukee with his mother. His mother had moved back to Milwaukee. He ends up going back there for his junior year.
Starting point is 00:16:36 He still, by the way, has not played any organized basketball. Nothing? Through his sophomore year of high school. Hasn't even played a CYO league. That's crazy. Nothing. No organized ball whatsoever. He has no idea who even played a CYO league. That's crazy. Nothing. No organized ball whatsoever. He has no idea who he is.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Just playground ball. That's it. He's a play... Because, I mean, he's... Jesus, if you've ever watched him, athletic doesn't begin to describe it. He's 6'5". 6'5", you know, 190 to 200 pounds. Chopped.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Wiry guy, but, like, ripped, too. And fucking explosive. I mean, could jump like crazy fast yeah i just and and played with with a certain vigor he played with a moxie that was uh you just have to admire man so uh but he hadn't played anything till this point he goes to washington high in milwaukee uh where that's crazy he doesn't he's just doesn't play at all and then in his senior year senior year doesn't play in his junior year either senior year uh the coach james gordon uh sees him walking around the halls and was like jesus christ yeah he's six foot five and he like doesn't he's not
Starting point is 00:17:38 tripping over himself like why aren't you playing do you not play basketball and he's like no i like basketball i play he's like why the fuck aren't you on my team or at least trying out for it what's happening here so uh he invited spreewell to you know join try to join the team try out and he made the team even though he was a senior already yeah and has never played organized ball before which isn't really done because it's banana basketball is one of those things where you just even if you can play the game like you need to know how to practice in basketball. You've got to know how to run plays. You've got to know how to run drills, and there's a certain verbiage to everything that you have to know.
Starting point is 00:18:12 So you have to have played organized ball to know this shit, unless you're just an athletic, gifted person. And he actually was, because he ends up joining the team and averaging 28 points per game in his first organized basketball season in high school which is pretty intense i mean that's that's how good he is uh his coach here gordon said quote what made him so good was his work ethic if you suggested he work on free throws instead of dunking he'd go straight to the to the free throw line and that's kind of the way he is for a long time. This is a guy where you often hear, and I always get mad and think it's bullshit when people are like, they say,
Starting point is 00:18:51 oh, we got the money and then now he's not doing shit. Because it's like, well, yeah, he got the money because someone else is making a lot more money. So he deserves the money. He's getting paid that money based on scale and effort. Based on what someone else is making off of him. That's the other thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:07 That money is there. So, I don't know. It's just, I don't know. He's a guy that money actually does fucking ruin him. Yeah. Because he does the dumbest shit ever. Like a dude from Flint, Michigan? Like a dude who has never seen a $ dollar bill before like that's how he acts
Starting point is 00:19:26 and it's it's really stupid and you just don't want him to do it because at heart he seems like a decent guy and that's what i i guess maybe because i want to like him because i liked him a lot i loved him he was so good yeah by the way for if you played uh any video game basketball in the 90s christ almighty latrell Sprewell was a monster. He scored everything. That early 90s Warriors team for basketball. Hardaway, Mullen. Hardaway, Sprewell, Mullen, Billy Owens, Chris Webber.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Billy Owens. Power forward. Really? Yeah. I don't know who that is. He was on their team for a while until 94 when he got traded with Chris Webber. And who was the center? Chris Webber. Yeah who was the center? Chris Webber.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a squad to run with on a video game. You would just crush people. So anyway, also in 87, when he's in his senior year of high school, he starts dating a girl. Uh-oh. He starts dating a young lady named Mitraline. What the fuck? Mitraline Morrow Macklin.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I don't know which one of those is her married name. Sounds like a fuel. Yeah, Mitraline uh mitraline maro macklin i don't know which one of those is her married name sounds like a fuel uh yeah mitraline that's that's what fontaine is selling yeah the newest fuel mitraline it runs cleaner burns it burns real hot burns longer and cleaner than any fuel on the market today everybody it's it's like a prospectus for investments. Everybody. Oh, Jesus Christ. Mitraline. Mitraline. That's a tough one.
Starting point is 00:20:50 That's a tough one. Well, he, I don't know what he called her for short. Leany? Lean? I don't know. I mean, his cousin will tell us. There's a nickname.
Starting point is 00:20:58 There's a nickname. She didn't go by that shit. Everyone would call her Mitraline. No. That's a... Mitzy? I don't know. That's a tough one. How do you even... It sounds like a Fats Domraline. No. That's not good. I don't know. That's a tough one.
Starting point is 00:21:06 It sounds like a Fats Domino song. Yeah. Mitraline. Oh, Mitraline. And he just says the name over and over again. Mitraline, Mitraline, Mitraline. Oh, fucking nuts. Mitraline was the working title of that Pearl Jam song.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I believe it was. Was that who sang that? I don't know. I believe, working title of that pearl jam song i believe was that who sang that i don't know i believe yeah what are you talking i don't know the one that uh i can't think of the goddamn name of it right now it's uh lean glycerine that's the word you're thinking of yeah yeah yeah glycerin yeah mind you is about anal sex that's very weird well he looks like everything he talks about is about anal sex, I feel like. It is Bush. Yeah, it's got to be. I saw Eddie Vedder singing it.
Starting point is 00:21:50 That's odd. He seems like everything he'd do would be about anal sex, and his name is Bush. Yeah. That's very wrong. So Sprewell, despite averaging 28 points a game, no Division I scholarship offers. No one's interested in him. Because it takes a couple years to get on the radar. Yeah yeah you can't just show up in your senior year unless you're like seven foot two you know or something some six foot five guy that's pretty decent isn't gonna
Starting point is 00:22:13 show up enough to get uh you know recruiters out there uh so he enrolls at three rivers community college in poplar bluff missouri uh yeah it's the Three Rivers Community College Raiders. That's where he went first. That's where he went first, Junior Community College. You can call it Junior if you want. This is hilarious already. Yeah, you had no idea about this, right? Three Rivers is a member of the NJCAA,
Starting point is 00:22:38 and the Midwest Community College Athletic Conference. That is not impressive. National Junior College Athletic Association. Ouch. community college athletic conference that is not impressive national junior college athletic association yeah uh it's uh founded in 38 to you know i guess give somewhere for spastics to play i don't know what the fuck if that shit's on your dennis wall you're turning the fuck around yeah that's that's the truth you're not going to see somebody that went to this college no apparently you need to get out of some out of there for, as we'll talk about. May 15th, 88, while he is a freshman, a daughter is born. Uh-oh. So that's a bad sign.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Already. Yeah, he's 18. His daughter is born. Not even 17 at this point. At community college. Community college. Daughter Aquila. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:23:18 It's Braywells. A-Q-U-I-L-L-A. That's Aquila. Aquila. Yeah. So, I don't know. Now, this is... This whole family's named like OutKast Albums.
Starting point is 00:23:27 This is bananas. This is a wild... Everyone in this story, we'll get to it. Everyone in this story has crazy names. So Junior College, he's there. Community. Let's call it Community College. It's in the title.
Starting point is 00:23:39 If it's something, something Community College, you can't call it a Junior College. It's in the Community College. You can't call it a junior college. It's in the community college athletic league. Sorry. So apparently while he's there, freshman year, not only is Aquila born, but right after that, Sprewell and a number of his teammates are arrested. Okay. This is not exactly a grand caper here. See, when the reward is not worth the the fucking embarrassment is
Starting point is 00:24:05 what i don't understand they're arrested for stealing batteries from a convenience store which come on man the swing at home needed batteries that's what it is it's for the baby swing a bunch of his team well it takes a lot of batteries that's probably why you get like two c and they say like a c cell or a d cell Yeah, you need other people. You can't take out 10 of those at the same time. I'll take two, you take two. Your pants will fall down. Yeah. They're arrested for that.
Starting point is 00:24:30 He's suspended a little while for the shoplifting incident for several games. His coach here, Gene Bess, says, quote, we suspended him for several games. So that's all he says about him. They say, by the way, in Three Rivers Community College on their website, Latrell Sprewell is their most famous alumnus. I'm sure he is. And yeah. And their coach, Gene Bess, is the men's basketball coach, has the most wins of any junior college basketball coach. Thanks to Latrell Sprewell.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Thanks to Latrell Sprewell. If you pause this story right now and you turn to the future and say this man's gonna make it to the nba doesn't look like no fucking way it's one of those stories it's like a ron lafleur yeah or if you took him at like 18 and he went this guy's gonna be in the major leagues you'd be like how he's already in prison for years how's he gonna get out and be in the main this is ridiculous he's got a mouth to feed he's fucking up at school he's fucking up at school he's at community college he's not even at real college where they let shit slide if you're good enough here they're like well he paid his tuition this month so i guess we'll let him stay i don't fucking know can't really suspend him he's paying
Starting point is 00:25:35 to be here so you know i have teachers that rely on his tuition yeah you can smoke in the classes there in 1989 still probably that's okay now if it to add a little more pressure in 1990 they have another daughter oh my god uh so another daughter now or he hasn't this is with a different woman i believe uh because they once he goes to college him and uh mitraline there uh go their separate ways uh they will talk about an arrangement he has for child support right away where he pays child support. What the fuck could that be? It's like two grand a month from then on,
Starting point is 00:26:12 but then it stays that way while he's playing and everything, which is weird. That's nice. Which is good for him, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, so he has a daughter. But Mitch Roline ended up going to a separate college and ended up marrying a guy down in georgia okay so totally separate deal there this is another woman
Starting point is 00:26:31 here who we'll get into don't worry don't worry there's some run-ins here all right uh he has a daughter with her so now he's two kids deep and enrolled in community college fuck yeah this is so many people with this story right now going how the fuck do i get out of this well if you're gifted uh gifted basketball player yeah you can end up going to the university of alabama is that where on a scholarship yeah so you know depending on how gifted you are we can see how that works he ends up going to alabama and uh he is teammates there with uh robert ory Ori, which is pretty neat. Yeah, so that's not a bad squad.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Is that the only guy? Sprewell and Ori. Anybody that's big, yeah. But he, yeah, goes to school with Robert Ori on that squad. Not too shabby. You think anybody else from Bama? Yeah, Bama wasn't a huge powerhouse really back then. For basketball, anyway.
Starting point is 00:27:20 For football, obviously. It's ridiculous. So, 1991, he's his first year at alabama and uh here they go 23 and 10 uh which isn't too shabby and they go to the third round of the tournament too which isn't bad they're number four seed in the southeast they uh they defeat murray state in the first round 89 79 they beat wake forest in the uh in the second round which is which is pretty decent and 90 i was right before tim duncan got there i think no it might have been right maybe no no tim duncan got
Starting point is 00:27:50 there 94 95 never mind okay so uh yeah uh wake forest and then they lose to the number one seed arkansas who was nasty back then if i remember i can't think of anybody on that day we're fucking nasty uh i didn't they win a national championship around this time i believe i don't know if they did in basketball i thought in basketball yeah yeah they were they were a nasty squad in the early 90s yeah absolutely that ever played for so uh 93 70 they lose that game but he has a pretty good year he plays in 33 games starts 17 of them that's good uh 26.2 minutes per game which is pretty good in a 40 minute game that's not bad uh not doing too shabby here uh point wise 8.9 points per game uh five total rebounds 1.9 assists and 1.9 blocks per game oh also so he he gets up in people's shit on defense he's not a passive guy almost
Starting point is 00:28:40 two a game yeah that's a lot of blocks for a 6-5 shooting guard that's a lot shooting guard yeah he's a two so for that's a lot of blocks for a two i mean that's getting up in people's shit and blocking some jump shots which takes effort and uh he's never for a lack of effort that's the thing and no one ever says oh he's a lazy fuck that that just doesn't it's not him he's if anything he's overly vigilant yeah we'll say uh so 91 92 uh he uh he's still with alabama luckily for him by the way their coach is wimp sanderson no wimp oh the whimper i'm gonna call him wimp sanderson why would he do that to himself southern college coaches have this they're all flipper whimper winker yeah clinker some horse shit bullshit the most pussy names ever
Starting point is 00:29:27 some small town coffee shop moniker that pisses me off this is what they call me over at the piggly wiggly and so no fuck i know it's a grocery store bum call yourself by your first there you go fucking bum so anyway wimp sanderson hopefully that's not his given name hopefully his parents were kinder than that they go 26 and 9 this year, which ain't too shabby at all. They're number five seed in the Southwest. They beat Stanford in the first round of the tournament and then lose to North Carolina in the second round of the tournament. So, I mean, North Carolina's always a powerhouse.
Starting point is 00:29:59 They're always good. No shame in that, I suppose. This year he plays Latrell 35 games. He plays and starts 34 of them. So shit is different. Now, 36.2 minutes per game. Jesus. Dude is playing.
Starting point is 00:30:12 17.8 points per game, 5.2 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 1.8 steals per game, which is a shitload. Is it two 20-minute halves in college? Yeah. Or is it 24? Yeah, no, two 20s. Yeah. He's sitting for four minutes a game, that's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:29 That's incredible. Yeah, 1.8 steals, 0.7 blocks per game. Okay. So, good, basically. Really nice numbers that you're impressed with. Everything here. So, June 24th, that was his senior year. He's played four years now.
Starting point is 00:30:44 June 24th, 1992 is the NBA draft's played four years now june 24th 1992 is the nba draft yes which is hot shit obviously and god they used to be so fun to watch back in the day and uh this takes place june 24th 1992 like we said it's in portland oregon on tnt broadcast and uh this is a this is like a lot of 90s guys yeah in this draft number one overall shack so i mean shaquille o'neal if you don't know who shack is that's another guy household This is like a lot of 90s guys in this draft. Number one overall, Shaq. So, I mean, Shaquille O'Neal, if you don't know who Shaq is, that's another guy. Household name. Everybody knows him.
Starting point is 00:31:11 He was in movies and everything else. He had music. Rap albums. He was terrible. Terrible rap and terrible movies. Video games. Shaq Fu. Everything. Number two overall, Alonzo Mourning.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Yes. Not a bad choice for number two there. Christian Laettner, number three. Jesus, they really took big people. Fresh off the Dream Team, too. I mean, he was, you know, top guy. Jimmy Jackson, the guard, went to Dallas. Number four, Lafonso Ellis to Denver.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Number five, Tom Gugliotta. The Googs, number six. The worst. To the Bullets, right? Googs goes to the Bullets, absolutely. He'll move around quite a bit so much and you got a bunch of like you know kind of second tier guys todd day clarence witherspoon robert ory number 11 harold minor remember harold minor who everybody thought was
Starting point is 00:31:56 so great baby jordan yeah he was a nasty mother did he go to miami right away uh yeah harold minor was in my drafted by miami uh you know anthonyeler, I remember, was supposed to be good. He went to Missouri. Malik Sealy. Guys like that. A bunch of Doug Christie. Dead guy. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Doug Sealy's dead. Yeah. Doug Christie. A bunch of, like I said, these kind of Hubert Davis, Oliver Miller. We all remember him. Do you want a story about him? It is the saddest fucking thing. That man didn't know shit, Oliver Miller.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yeah. He knew how to order dinner. I'll tell you that much. Yeah, but that's about it. He didn't know shit oliver miller he's he is he knew how to order dinner i'll tell you that much yeah but that's about it he didn't know how to evacuate he broke he stayed after the nba he stayed with a friend of mine broke her toilet seat jesus didn't know how to fix it he went to the store to bought her a new toilet seat and just set it down on top of the toilet he's like that'll do it she's like you gotta install it and he's like i don't know how to do that shit what am i supposed to do now he bought a new one yeah that's sweet of him that was nice of him but he's a dope he's a big dummy i've heard that he doesn't know shit yeah well he
Starting point is 00:32:53 still drafted number 22 overall that's pretty impressive good job sons yeah nice work here uh so uh number 24 overall though from the goal for the State Warriors, Latrell Sprewell is drafted. So now he's a first-round draft pick. So end of his junior year, he's never put on a fucking uniform. And then five years later, he's drafted in the first round of the NBA, which is absolutely pretty fucking bonkers, honestly. Also in that draft, P.J. Brown, Sean Rooks, guyss guys like that like i said a lot of uh a lot of second tier guys popeye jones so many big dudes a lot of big guys that year yeah that really was a lot of big guys and a lot of like weak shooting guards yeah todd day types and shit like that a
Starting point is 00:33:36 lot of you know half bucks or mavericks bucks bucks bucks todd day did he go to the mavericks first because i remember him on the box i remember he was on the he was on the Mavericks first? Because I remember him on the Bucs forever. I remember him on the Bucs. He was on the NBA Jam game. Todd Day was on the Bucs, and that's where he was drafted. Out of Arkansas. A lot of guys out of Arkansas that year. That must have been the year they were dominant. Well, look at this. They have Todd Day, No. 8 overall, and then also back-to-back drafted 22 and 23,
Starting point is 00:34:03 or Oliver Miller and Lee Mayberry. Oliver Miller went to Arkansas. Arkansas, yeah, and Lee Mayberry, too, I remember. So they must have been nasty to have three first-round draft picks come off of that team, which makes sense that they would overrun them. So 92-93, Latrell is on the Golden State Warriors, and this is a fun squad. Like we said, Tim Hardaway and Mullen and Billy Owens. Weber will come next year.
Starting point is 00:34:27 He'll be drafted. Judd Bushler. I remember him from those. Deadly three-point shooter. No, he was a big guy. No? Well, no, no. Bushler was 6'6".
Starting point is 00:34:35 He wasn't a huge guy. He was a three-point shooter, wasn't he? He wasn't a three. I remember. He's a goofy white motherfucker, but he's not like a Hornacek. He looked. He's a goofy bastard. I remember him being a shooter.
Starting point is 00:34:44 A good shooter. He was a small remember him being a shooter. Not bad. He was a small forward, only because he wasn't big enough. Chris Gatling was on this team, guys like that. Great player. Yeah, Gatling was... Big as shit. Yeah, Gatling was a big dude, 6'10". He was a big, thick motherfucker, too.
Starting point is 00:34:57 So that team, coached by Don Nelson, who always looks like somebody just robbed his house. And he's like, what the fuck? Why come home and nothing's here? What's going on? Why is this happening? Every day. Every day. Every day.
Starting point is 00:35:11 And he looks like that because he's coaching a bad basketball team, I feel like, here. This year they finished 34-48. That team finished 34-48? Absolutely. These were bad teams, man. Really? These were bad teams.
Starting point is 00:35:24 This leads to Don Nelson eventually getting fired and P.J. Carlissimo coming in and then problems there. Okay. So Don Nelson's kind of a player's coach from what I understand. He's a little looser with the guys than Carlissimo they brought in as an enforcer. Yeah. And we'll talk about that when we get there. He's kind of a hard ass. Also on this team, Greg popovich is an assistant coach
Starting point is 00:35:46 really so yeah the longtime many titled uh coach of the san antonio spurs who dennis rodman said horrible things about in his book oh yeah rodman hates that man that's hilarious that's a lot of people don't like greg popovich he's one of those guys he's like a belichick where he's really good at his shit and he's kind of a dick yeah and so belichick though i i want to hate him but the fact that he dresses like a scumbag because he's not allowed to dress nice is hilarious and i gotta like him for that he dresses like me on an airplane yeah he dresses like he'd someone just picked him out of a dumpster because he wants to wear a suit and he's not the nfl banned that you can. What is that about? There's a bunch of guys that wanted to wear suits. Is it because it's NFL gear?
Starting point is 00:36:27 No, they gave him shit about it. Even back in the day, Hank Stram used to have a sport coat with a big Chiefs logo on it in the 60s, all his NFL films. But yeah, he wanted to wear a suit, and they wouldn't let him. And that was at one point they made the rule. So he goes, okay, but I can wear this. I can cut my sleeves off a sweatshirt and look homeless, and that's fine. No problems there, though. Okay, I'll show off how stupid the NFL is.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I think that's awesome. That is good. I like it when people are pricks. They buck the trends a little bit. Yeah, which is why I like Sprewell, too. He's kind of a dick. He is. I like that.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Those are the people I like, usually. He was mouthy. Yeah. He would start shit with everybody he played against. Hunter S. Thompson. I like fucking malcontents. you know what i'm saying yeah so 92 93 he plays in 77 games for golden state which i mean they threw his ass right in the mix starts 69 games in his rookie season so you can't get any more thrown in uh he averages 15.4 a game, too, which is pretty goddamn good. 3.5 rebounds, 3.8 assists, 1.6 steals. So same amount of steals pretty much in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And 0.7 blocks, too. So he's repeating his numbers from college. Exact replica. Translating it to the NBA. Yeah, a few less rebounds, but that's not his job as much. You have big guys down low for that. College, you have less big guys. He makes $550,000 for his rookie year.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Not bad. So, not bad. And for him, he comes from not a rich family by any stretch of the imagination. So, this $550,000 means a lot to him and a lot to his family. And he's very generous with his family. That's the other thing. Buys his mom a house. Buys people.
Starting point is 00:38:03 You know, he's not a stingy guy or anything like that he's generous with people that he should be generous to like his mom he doesn't buy two houses no no well he doesn't buy that now but i mean eventually he buys his mom a nice house and make sure she's set up and all that shit so that's character that shows some sort of character uh now 1993 1994 uh don nelson's still the coach here the team finishes 50 and 32 that's better so that's a little bit better not too shabby they go to the playoffs this year but unfortunately for them they run into uh the phoenix suns in the first round who swept them three zero because the suns were coming off that the loss year to the bulls and they were they were pretty strong that year that was the year houston beat them in the playoffs and then the nixon one and then john starks could hit a
Starting point is 00:38:48 fucking three-pointer to save his goddamn fucking life so uh latrell makes the all-star team though this year so now he's a second year player six years ago he never played basketball before now he's a fucking crazy all-star in the nba amazing grace really this is yeah this is grace right here we're gonna say because it starts to get weird after this this is when he does things where like half the things that happen you're like yeah it gets weird back up a little what the fuck are you talking about now it gets super weird so uh it's at this point during this season that he gets in a scuffle with byron houston not alan houston byron houston who's a big motherfucker i'm trying to think he's a big down low power forward and he he's got 50
Starting point is 00:39:38 pounds on spree well and he's a he's a jacked motherfucker, basically. Don Nelson said, quote, no one messed with Houston. But one day in practice, Spree punched Byron three times before Byron knew what was up. Everybody was stunned. He just snapped. So he's this quiet guy. Everything's fine. And then out of nowhere, he just starts punching the toughest guy on the team. I'm just going to work this guy over.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Prison mentality in the NBA? You can't do that. It's super weird it's just very straight well they're in prison it's just he got mad at him for something right but he picked the biggest guy but he wasn't picking him because he was a big guy he just picked him because he didn't pick him he just got mad at him for something and didn't give a shit that he was enormous and he's on his own team and decided to jack him up a little bit covered him with punches yeah that's it he did and uh don nelson ended up getting
Starting point is 00:40:25 between them which is if you've ever seen don nelson is hilarious he's like he's always looked old yeah always look like he's 75 years old even when he was 46 and he's kind of a an unathletic looking white man he just doesn't look like a guy who should get in between two large athletes fighting he looks like every sixth grade pe coach you ever pretty much except if you put a suit on him put a tie on him a loose tie waving around as he runs back and forth so he gets in between him and ends up having his shirt ripped off really yeah because he's in between them they end up ripping the coach's shirt off in between so now a shirtless pudgy don nelson standing on the practice court don nelson with his coach tits are out yeah great oh jesus christ what the fuck jesus christ man like i picture him without a shirt on just like seven curly hairs yeah and then just the saggiest fat come on guys come on waving his arms he's very pink for some
Starting point is 00:41:16 reason why are you pink what's up with that you're like a baby gerbil you're like a little newborn gerbil. What's up with that, dude? Hairless and pink. Why do you have so many nipples, Don? Oh, it's so strange, Don. Get a few of those removed. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Pick the two you like most and keep them. You got money, Don. Get rid of the rest of them. Get rid of those. So he makes the all-star game, like we said. At the all-star game, we gave you a part of his quote about, I don't need people talking about when I was a kid and all that shit. He completes the thought here he says quote i don't think people need to know that much about my private life i just want to be judged on what i do on the court
Starting point is 00:41:52 so fair i get it i mean you are in a public i remember when he said that though and he caught a lot of shit for that because this was at the same time when this is the same time barkley said i'm not a role model and he said i don't need people in my private life this was a this was at the same time. This was the same time Barkley said, I'm not a role model. And he said, I don't need people in my private life. This was a backlash to the, for a while, all these athletes wanted publicity, wanted publicity. And then it became, holy fuck, I can't do anything without people being up my ass. Now it's like, hey, I don't have to be a good example for your fucking kids. That's not my job. To entertain you by shooting a three-pointer,
Starting point is 00:42:25 that's my job. Right. Otherwise, fuck off. So he was kind of riding that wave, I feel like, at that time. Where do you stand on that? As a kid, though,
Starting point is 00:42:32 you wanted to be in there, right? You wanted to know everything. It made me like him so much more, though. Did you? Fuck yeah. My favorite player as a kid was Charles Barkley.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Yeah. By far. Yeah. By far. I liked him so much more than Michael Jordan. Yeah, because Michael Jordan would give you some
Starting point is 00:42:43 bullshit canned answer. Yeah. Well, I think so. Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. That's true. And Charles Barkley would be Yeah, because Michael Jordan would give you some bullshit canned answer. Well, I think so. That's true. And Charles Barkley would be like, man, that guy's an asshole. Fuck him. And I was like, yes. Thank you, Charles Barkley. That's who I like.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I always like dicks. I like outspoken assholes. I like people I could relate to. The smallest guy on the court was my favorite. That's my guy. You're a big John Stockton fan. No, I like Muggsy Bogues okay and spud web those are my guys that's understandable mugsy was fucking amazing i loved watching him and i i stood on
Starting point is 00:43:10 that that stat of he had the the the lowest uh assist to turnover ratio every year you let the league in nothing except for that steal from him he was dribbling three inches from the ground and you couldn't steal the ball and he got the ball to i mean he had he had alonzo morning and yeah they were a good team larry johnson david wingate he had great he had a good squad oh we'll do an episode about him uh it's i always liked the asshole guy i always liked the outspoken guy i always liked the guy who would get shit for saying shit that needed to be said that was always my guy i always liked that guy no no matter what. That's why I like Barkley. Barkley was six foot fucking four, and he was out rebounding centers, based on pure force of will and intimidation.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And I feel like that's much like our podcasts have been forged on pure force of fucking will, and that's our style. I like that shit. So, 93-94, like we said, makes the all-star game. 82 games played. Starts all 82. So doesn't miss shit. Averages 43.1 minutes per game.
Starting point is 00:44:12 By the way, college is fucking 220-minute halves. Not 48. The NBA is 48. It is 220. College is 220. The NBA is 412. There we go. And I knew that.
Starting point is 00:44:21 I don't know what my mind did. Well, I didn't know either. It fucking confused me, and then I didn't know what to say. I knew the NBA was 48, but I had a feeling it was shorter in college. But he averages 43.1 minutes a game. Damn near the whole thing. Obscene. Nobody averages that. 21 points per game, 4.9 total rebounds, 4.7 assists, 2.2 steals a game, and 0.9 blocks per game.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Oh, man. Nasty as shit. God damn it, was he good around that's year two that is year two he's also voted all nba first team and all nba defensive team i believe i had that card nasty i mean he's just as good as they come and make 700 grand for his effort now you're talking so they're getting a bargain though golden state still for that i mean they're getting all- an all-star caliber player. Now, October 94, things get really weird. From here on out, basketball is going to be completely secondary. That's why we spent a little bit of time on it, because now it's secondary.
Starting point is 00:45:16 We'll run through his stats and get to the crazy shit. October 94, his daughter, his four-year-old daughter, the one who was born in 90, not Aquila. Aquila's 87 okay this is page got it paid oh knocked it out of the park with a good name the second mother was like excuse me yeah we're not putting any cues in anybody's fucking name because no one knows how to spell they're not naming her paquilla but i like i like the quilla i'm sorry we're not putting quillas and i get that you and your dad are both L.A.T. And you want quilla to be the. No, no.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Page is attacked by one of Sprewell's four pit bulls. I remember this. That he kept in his home in Hayward, California. She was living there with the with the mother, with her mother and his longtime mother of money. Children of his. Candace Cabell is her, because she'll come up. This girl's four years old, had one of her severe bites all over her face and eyes, had one of her ears completely severed by the dog, which was terrible. Greg Armis is the city's animal control unit director.
Starting point is 00:46:21 He said, quote, the girl's injuries were substantial. We don't know what was going on at the time she was bitten or even which dog attacked her. That was the initial statement. Sprewell told the paper that she was fine and just declined further comment. She's fine. Get the fuck away from me.
Starting point is 00:46:39 She was at Children's Hospital in Oakland and they also declined at the family's request to release any information on this. He didn't't seem to be everyone was like whoa he didn't have any like reaction to this whatsoever there's just no reaction and for a couple months just he just never was like yeah that that sucks i you know teammates everybody said that like it's weird it's like it never happened what's the shit so he gets an interview in an interview with a with a san francisco chronicle reporter and the reporter says quote it seems it would have to affect you in some way he says quote no why should it this is what i mean about him where he'll be contrary just to be contrary okay he's like donald trump in a weird way whereas if you're
Starting point is 00:47:20 if you if you said to donald trump like he could whatever it is, you could say, I know, I know for a fact you love Jewish people. He'd be like, I hate Jewish people. Even though, obviously, that's not what he wants to say. Just to say the opposite of what you said, he can't agree with you. It's one of those, it's that kind of personality. When it comes to your babies, I mean. But that's how how to the point of it is this reporter thinks i should be affected so no not affected what do you think of that i'm
Starting point is 00:47:50 gonna troll you basically in person is what he does and the guy says you know because it was your daughter yeah because you know spreewell said why should it so he said spreewell says quote no that stuff happens which is crazy the reporter says quote but it doesn't always happen that close to home so spreewell said quote people die every day maybe if it had been more serious it would have affected me people die every day some gangster shit your kid got mauled by a pit bull dude and lost an ear your kid damn near died damn near oh it was a serious thing yeah and so the the reporter said quote did you lose the dog spreewell said no i still got him i kept him but we'll find out that that's not even entirely true really he just says that to get a rise out of this fucking guy that's
Starting point is 00:48:36 what i mean it's all he didn't get the rise out of that guy he got the rise out of the public because i remember him saying that's the fucking dog He doesn't realize that if he's got a beef with this one guy, it spreads bigger because like with PJ Carlissimo with the coach thing, it's just between me and the coach. No, it's everything. We're all watching, bro. Yeah, and this is the same thing here.
Starting point is 00:48:57 He doesn't get that this reporter then disseminates this information to everyone else and then everyone thinks he's a jerk and he kind of gets off on it a little bit. Really? But at the same time, he doesn't want people to think he's a jerk he just wants him to think he's a good basketball player and leave him the fuck alone that's what he likes it's super weird uh but uh they said he said no i still got him and and the uh the reporter said even after that and spreewell said it didn't matter i don't know what the fuck that means
Starting point is 00:49:22 what does then what What could matter? Well, later on, he explains that he actually put the dog to sleep, them all, his daughter, but kept the other dogs. And he explained that they basically kept all four dogs for a period of 10 days. And then they asked Sprewell which ones did they want him to destroy, the dog or whatever. And he said, I'll take the other three back and fucking put the one that mauled my daughter to sleep. But he couldn't tell the reporter that, even though that already happened. Because that would have given the reporter something that he wanted. Later, he said, quote, and this is Luttrell, quote,
Starting point is 00:49:59 It was really serious, so I didn't want the media to just go to the hospital and try to get cameras and all their faces i thought that she just needed to be left alone because you know she's scarred for life so i just wanted the media to leave her alone at that point totally understandable yeah totally understand that say that right that statement does not sound crazy say hey look you know you guys can be all up in my ship but this is my daughter she's she's not an nba player she's a kid and so let's leave her alone her alone. And then reporters will look like assholes for bothering the kid. So he didn't play it correctly. But I mean, the other thing too,
Starting point is 00:50:31 he's a 24-year-old fucking kid who's never had to do this before. He wasn't a star in college. He played in community college and then two years at Alabama where he wasn't even the star of the team. So he doesn't have never been put in this position where people are all up in his shit asking about his private business right so i guess it's understandable but you have to
Starting point is 00:50:49 figure it out hire pr people to teach you something man it's like you're making money now yeah you know 1.2 you're doing all right 94 95 uh this is when the team's a real fucking mess yeah uh the warriors total mess they trade chris weber they trade Tim Hardaway. Mullen's about to be retired. It's a disaster here. They finished 26-56 that year. Don Nelson is fired halfway through the season. Halfway through? Yeah, he's fired after 45 games.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And then they bring in Bob Lanier, who's an old NBA center from the 60s. And don't take no shit off nobody. But apparently it doesn't matter because Luttrell still gives him a lot of shit. And Don Nelson, one of the reasons he was fired is because he didn't get along with Sprewell. Really? This is when Sprewell's personality starts really irking a lot of people around him. Nelson went to
Starting point is 00:51:38 Seattle after this. He went all around. Now, George Carl was in Seattle for a long time. Carl, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nelson, did he go to Denver? Yeah, Carl and him in Milwaukee. They just chased each other. around now george carl was in seattle for a long time yeah yeah yeah can carl go to denver yeah they carl and him in milwaukee just chased each carl was in milwaukee yeah it's it's a mess coach carl is essentially just uh uh uh don nelson uh minus minus the old face yeah yeah he's like the anti jerry sloan who just stayed in one place and aged so uh 94 95 latrell here the team like i said not great but latrell makes the all-star team again uh plays 69 games uh 40.2 minutes per game averages 20.6 points per game which ain't
Starting point is 00:52:16 too goddamn shabby 3.7 rebounds four assists 1.6 steals 0.7. He's a goddamn all-star. He makes $890,000 that year. Still a bargain. Oh, he's a huge bargain so far. They've gotten way more than that out of him. And he has a son that year as well. Because what the fuck? This is his fourth kid because he had another one in there somewhere. So he's got four kids now as a son.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Now, you know, he's an all-star. He's got four kids.'s got he's got adult issues adult just not even issues just adult responsibilities and adult everything like that and then he does some stupid shit on september 3rd 1995 there is an officer of fukuda uh who's a japanese gentleman uh he uh that's important in the story by the way that's the only reason why i said it uh he this officer says he pursued a speeding 1992 gmc typhoon remember those wow he had one of those gmc typhoon wow that's way bigger than the no it's that's uh the typhoon was the little uh it was uh it was a like it it's a fucking suv the little blazer but it's the blazer that's lowered and it's fast as shit.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Those little trucks were fast. Okay, well, that's what he had. A turbo V6, I think. Oh, okay. They were probably expensive as shit, too. They were probably 50 grand, 45, something like that. Which back then was a lot of money for a car. Christ, I mean, it's a lot of money now, but it was way more then.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Well, apparently this 92 Typhoon was speeding, and so the officer ended up pursuing and losing it. Okay. So the Typhoon lost him, so it must be a fast car. But he's driving around, and this officer, Fukuda, later spots the same vehicle double-parked with the driver talking to somebody in another car. So he rolls up on it, obviously. This is in Oakland, and the driver is latrell spreewell and the officer's trying to do his job here he finds out that uh latrell has an outstanding warrant for driving with a suspended license okay so this is a problem yeah it's at this point uh uh basically they say
Starting point is 00:54:18 that spreewell got out at the curb and first asked fakuda if he knew who he is, first of all. You know who I am? And he says, not a fucking clue. Not a basketball fan. So at this point, Luttrell makes racial slurs to the cops, which is not smart. If you're going to do one thing, don't make racial slurs to cops. Not that guy. They don't like it usually.
Starting point is 00:54:39 It's the wrong guy. Well, it's funny. You can make racial slurs to people, and most people don't have the power to really do anything about it except punch you in the face or whatever. There's physical retribution. But otherwise, it's pretty much just you're an asshole. But this is a guy who can actually put you in jail if he feels like it. He can slap cuffs on you.
Starting point is 00:54:58 It costs you money. You've already broken the law. You just told him you're famous, so he knows this will be in the paper. So you've given him leverage right away. So the whole thing is fucking weird. And an Asian cop, and he's driving a vehicle called the Typhoon. Not good. There's so many things that he could have said.
Starting point is 00:55:12 There's so many things that this guy is not happy about, which I'll spree well about. So it's at this point, while this is all going on, he says to the officer, quote, you can be shot real easy, and people get shot out here all the time no you can't say that to a cop who wants to arrest you for something you can't say that to them you can't make veiled threats of shootings after you've called somebody fucking racial slurs you can't do that i don't care oakland who you are that's not gonna go over well with anybody so uh at this point the officer doing his job tried to cuff spree well and spree well would not let him cuff him so he puts up a big struggle and so this just this guy's just uh the officer calls for backup
Starting point is 00:55:58 and a bunch of cops come and fucking cuff him and take him in because like you said you made like kind of a veiled death threat of the cop. It's not going to fly real well. I picture him doing spin moves and shit off other cars. Yeah, juking him and shit. How do you like that crossover, motherfucker? Shadow him. Jumping up on the hood of a car. Pow.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Like that vertical leap. I'm an all-star, baby. Come and get me. Come and get me. He's released from jail after this this after posting more than six thousand dollars in bail which is quite a bit including he had to pay 956 for the warrant for driving with a suspended license that was the fine for that that he never paid and he's also charged with impeding traffic and playing his car stereo too loud just to be dicks because when you make racial slurs at
Starting point is 00:56:41 a cop they can go well your stereo's a little loud too you know what i can't quite see make out your license plate i think your bulb's a little dim in that light back there that's a ticket too your your windows are a bit too dark try to be cool and work with a cop a little if you can if possible sometimes it's not possible they want to fuck you up if it's an asshole cop there's like an asshole anything there's asshole everybody's out there you can't do anything about it but i think fakuda here would would have been cool with him if he wouldn't have been a dick. He wouldn't have said, you know who I am? Fucking slanty. Like, you can't say that shit to a fucking police officer.
Starting point is 00:57:12 No, that's not OK. So eventually, though, out of all this, the the the traffic charges are eventually dropped. are eventually dropped and uh they just prosecutors decide against charging spreewell with threatening an officer because the comments quote lacked credibility and immediacy as a righteous threat i feel like if i did that they would they would call it immediate maybe i feel like i don't know if i was i'm not rich like yeah that's the point is that somebody probably made a couple of phone calls yeah made this go away now it's at this point during the season that he gets in a fight with Jerome Kersey at practice. Really? You know Jerome Kersey, the guard?
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah, played for the Portland Trailblazers. Yeah, well, at this point he was on the Warriors here. They get into a fight in the locker room. Get into a fight, and apparently Sprewell, this is what he likes, he leaves and comes back. So this is always a bad sign. They get in a scuffle. Teammates well this is what he like he leaves and comes back so this is always a bad sign yeah they get in a scuffle teammates break them up he leaves and he comes back with a two by four oh jesus a la hacksaw jim duggan no and starts fucking going after cursey with a fucking two by four do you have pyrotechnics and music playing when he enters
Starting point is 00:58:20 the arena he said oh and then he took a fucking swing at him. What is happening? What the shit? He attacks Kersey with a two-by-four. Teammates get in the middle of it, and so there's never actually hits him with the two-by-four. But he also says that I'll come back with a gun, motherfucker. No. So now he's like, I'll shoot you after I hit you with this two-by-four because I'm done punching you. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:58:43 So shit has gone awry let's just say definitely accelerated it's excelled the acceleration is big time he's starting to get a little out of his mind here uh 95 96 later on they make up and they say hey water under the bridge no worries we're all good passion happens in sports okay that's who by four a two by four that's not in sports no i've never seen that and other than hacks Hacksaw Jim Duggan, I've never seen a two-by-four used in a sporting manner. In any office setting, any co-worker that comes at you with a two-by-four, if it's not Hacksaw Jim Duggan, you're fired. Worry about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:18 If it's Hacksaw, you go, hey, that's great. That's why we hired that guy because he walks around with that two-by-four. Other than that, what the fuck? This is so weird, though, to attack a teammate with a goddamn 2x4. In basketball. In basketball. It's not like there's even 2x4s in basketball. It's not like they're lying around like, oh, we can't get practice started without the 2x4s.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Somebody go out and get the 2x4s. Did he pull it from the floor? He left. He went outside. He went outside and was probably just laying around by a dumpster or something. He was like, I can hit a motherfucker with this. And then went back inside. First thing he could grab.
Starting point is 00:59:49 First thing he could grab. So that shows a little bit of instability here. So 95-96 Golden State. This year they're under coach Rick Adelman, who does not do much better. 36-46 this year. This is tough times for them. He is not an all-star this year. He plays in 78 games, starts all 78 games,
Starting point is 01:00:09 18.9 points per game, 4.9 rebounds, 4.2 assists, 1.6 steals, and 0.6 blocks. He could have been an all-star very easily. During that time period, man, those all-star teams were just loaded. You can only have like 12 guys, and there was 40 guys in the league who could have been All-Stars easily. And the game was competitive then.
Starting point is 01:00:32 The All-Star game was fun to watch. There was no defense, but it was like 155, 153. It was so fun to watch. Everybody was an actual star. You knew who everybody was. It was fun. $975,000 he makes for that year. So he's not doing too badly. And for the bargain they've got for the last few years,
Starting point is 01:00:47 they really have gotten a bargain for the state. Barely paid him $3 million. That's what I mean. Well, they decide to give him a nice contract and reward him with a five-year $36 million extension. Whoa. $36 million. So that's not too shabby at all.
Starting point is 01:01:02 I can't believe that. Or a three-year $36 million, I say. That's so much. I don't know my numbers today. That's a lot of money. 96-97, Coach Rick Adleman again. They finished 30-52, the Warriors do. Again, a shit year for the team.
Starting point is 01:01:16 But Latrell's on the All-Star team again. So 26 years old. He's a three-time All-Star. He's got a big money contract. This is good shit. I mean yeah this is good shit i mean this is good for him averages well he plays 80 games starts 79 averages uh by the way 41.9 minutes per game uh 24.2 points per game this year he's the guy who went out and was like i gotta earn that money yeah and he fucking did uh 4.6 total rebounds 6.33 assists. He's doing it. He brought his assists up two full assists per game.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Per game. From 4.2 to 6.3, 1.7 steals and 0.6 blocks. He's creating plays as much as he's executing. He's just all over the place. He's an amazing player. He's a great player, and he makes $7 million for his efforts. So not too shabby. Wow.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Now, very private, like we said said it's at this point where he's really kind of been pissed off since the thing with his daughter and everything he's gotten even more private yeah and uh they say at this point basically all you know about him from this age from this time in his private life is that he uh is from the golden state media guide really and it says of him this year quote he likes jet skiing the dallas cowboys repairing stereo equipment and eating his mother's spaghetti he didn't play organized basketball until his senior year at milwaukee's washington high school he has two daughters nine and seven and a son age two he has three three kids also this is he's on his fourth agent since he's been
Starting point is 01:02:42 in the league in three years in three four years he's on his fourth age since he's been in the league. In three years. In three years. Four years. He's on his fourth agent. Oh, boy. Which, that's weird. That's changing one every year. That's one every year. Usually, like, one, they'll change, but four is a lot. That's a bit. That's a lot.
Starting point is 01:02:53 So, 97-98, Golden State. This is when they hire P.J. Carlissimo, who was a coach at Seton Hall before that, a college coach, known as a disciplinarian, which pretty much never works in the nba first year in the nba he goes to to this team he goes to coach latrell he goes to coach latrell spreewell and be a disciplinarian yeah not just coach latrell spreewell to be a ball breaker of guys he's he's not as good as not as good as guys who make way more money than him guys who can't be motivated by i'll cut you. It's like, go ahead, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:03:26 You pay me for the next five years. I don't give a shit if you cut me or not. Whereas in college, I'll yank your scholarships, a real threat. You'll have to sit out a year and all that shit. That's a real threat. You can't threaten an NBA player. You just can't. Bench me?
Starting point is 01:03:37 Fine. You'll get the heat from the media of why the fuck we're losing because I'm not playing. Knock yourself out, asshole. They have billboards of Carlissimo. of why the fuck we're losing because i'm not playing knock yourself out asshole uh they have billboards of carlissimo the whole thing they advertise is nope not taking any shit anymore this team's turning around oh boy they have billboards with him with like his arms crossed wearing a leather jacket and sunglasses trying to no trying to look hard and shit oh i swear to god their first year coach there before never before the Yeah, he's coming to fucking... All right.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Yeah, he's going to lay the law down. He's got his arms crossed. So we'll find out how that goes. Who owns the Warriors? He's an idiot. Yeah, well, we'll find out how that goes here. The team this year, before we get into anything that happened this season, the team at the end of the season altogether goes 19-63.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Yeah. So that's how well discipline works in the NBA. Unless you're most a genius. Unless you have respect. Like, Phil Jackson's how well discipline works in the NBA. Carlissimo's a genius. Unless you have respect. Like, Phil Jackson's kind of a disciplinarian, but he's also a player's coach in certain ways. But at practice, you practice. And Phil was a great NBA player. So they have respect for him.
Starting point is 01:04:38 You listen to that guy. Yeah. He was a tough son of a bitch. Plus, something about him being like 6'9", and looking these fucking guys in the eye, is different than P.J. Carlissimo, who's a tiny little fucking bearded guy who looks like somebody's math teacher. He doesn't look like a goddamn threat. He's tying your drawstring on your shorts at eye level. That's what I get.
Starting point is 01:04:59 He's not a threat to anybody. Not a threat. And he's going to tell me what to do? Yeah. Fuck out of here. This year, Spree plays in 14 games, as we'll talk about why. Starts 13 of them. Averages 21.4 a game, so he's doing fine. Four rebounds, five assists about.
Starting point is 01:05:16 But he has some problems, team-wise. It's November 28, 1997. He's fined when he misses a team flight from Oakland to Salt Lake City and didn't arrive on his own by the team-appointed deadline, which was midnight the night before the game. You have to check in. Say, hey, I'm in the city. I'm available.
Starting point is 01:05:33 I'll be playing tomorrow. You have to know you're there. Yeah, it's one of those things. So apparently Golden State players also said that he didn't give his best effort at practice all the time, and sometimes he'd even refuse to shoot the ball during scrimmages and shit. He's just fucking around. Well, he's making $7 million a year now.
Starting point is 01:05:50 And on the court, during the games, he's scoring 22 a game. So it doesn't matter. At that point, who cares? We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice. Practice? That's the thing about the NBA and about any league. Even in the NFL, which is known as this hard-ass
Starting point is 01:06:05 like military type league if you have a 34 year old offensive tackle yeah he doesn't run all the drills that everybody else runs him doing that you you take it easy on him and you go you I know you you'll have yourself ready by opening day because you do it every fucking year for the last 10 years and I have faith that you'll do it again you want him snapping his Achilles in practice yeah it's why am I putting more miles on a big guy's body or on anybody's body and it's kind of like the same thing in the nba the phil jackson always had the thing is you don't treat to some coaches say i treat everybody exactly the same you can't do that with you have these are different people and when you have some guys that make seven million a year you kind of have to there's a
Starting point is 01:06:44 certain way to approach them because you can't discipline them. You have nothing to hold over them. So you have to motivate them in different ways of – you have to be smarter than that rather than just yelling at them. The bargain has to be strategy, not just yelling. Exactly. It has to be you'll make even more money if we win championships. Treating everybody the same is paying them all the same also. And you sure as fuck don't do that.
Starting point is 01:07:07 You're not doing that. Exactly. And Phil Jackson always said he treats everybody fucking different because everybody is different. You can't treat Michael Jordan the same way that you treat Bill Wennington. This is not the same guy. I'm sorry. They're not the same guy. Bill Wennington.
Starting point is 01:07:21 You know, Judd Bushler as another. I swear he was a great three-point shooter maybe he was i think he was a decent shooter so december 1st 1997 uh this is his first uh first year as a coach carlissimo after a practice because practices were closed to the media under carlissimo because he wanted to be mr mr fucking disciplinar Afterwards, a reporter noticed a bunch of long scratches down his neck, Carlissimo's neck. So the reporter said, quote, did you cut yourself shaving today?
Starting point is 01:07:53 Did you have a bad razor or something? And apparently, because he was just joking around, like, geez, what happened there? Like, he didn't think it was anything. And Carlissimo stopped dead, and he just said, no comment, which is like, whoa, what the hell is that about? There's a story.
Starting point is 01:08:06 There's something here. He could have just said, yeah, I scratched myself earlier with next question. Instead, no comment. They were like, burn myself with a curling iron is a better excuse than no comment. Yeah, yeah. Jesus Christ. Well, one of the players here said at this point, the team was one in 13 at this point, so not going well.
Starting point is 01:08:23 And one of the players said, said quote we all seen it coming is what they said here it was during a practice spreewell was running a three-man two uh two ball shooting drill with point guard mugsy bogues and uh and uh assistant coach mark grab out now this is what i mean how you have to know basketball because there's these specialized drills now uh spreewell's job was to keep passing to bogues who was supposed to try to get as many shots off as possible in 15 seconds so it would come off he'd pass he'd kick rebound pass kick rebound pass kick that's the drill uh so carlissimo stood and watched and didn't like the pace of the whole thing this is what i mean stop with this didn't like the pace and he was yelling at uh
Starting point is 01:09:04 he was yelling at uh spreewell to put a little mustard on that pass then he said quote get mugsy some more shots spree and spreewell just kept doing exactly how he was doing just ignoring him so carlissimo said louder and yelled at him he said come on spree give him a sharper crisper pass and then he called latrell's name again to say something else and latrell's uh spun around slammed the ball on the ground and said get off my back motherfucker which is great yeah so he said get off my back motherfucker so pj said you're the fuck out of here carlissimo said just go spree just leave he kicks him out of practice right so spree well
Starting point is 01:09:41 rather than leaving of course uh walks over to carlissimo and grabs him around the throat with his hand and chokes him and said quote i'll kill you i'll fucking kill you so while pushing pj backward right pj to his credit carlissimo says i'm here do it as he's being choked no yes he says do it man mother i'm here so through the through a closed esophagus not bad now well he can get through because as lee were as uh as latrell spreewell would later say on 60 minutes quote i wasn't choking pj that hard i mean he could breathe so i wasn't choking like for results right i was just i was just choking to know that i probably could it's like a vanity choke really it was just like one of those so uh i mean he could breathe so that that's good
Starting point is 01:10:30 i suppose words out he could get words out so it took 10 seconds of this choking and and saying i'm going to kill you before two assistant coaches pulled spree well off of him off of carlissimo let him out of the gym. Ten seconds. Because it's unexpected. Right. You don't expect your star player to choke your head coach. That's had to be like, what the fuck? Is he? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:10:52 And then it takes three seconds to get over there, I guess. All that that you just said took ten seconds. That is a long fucking time. It's a long time. But to register what's happening when something crazy is happening like that, that you don't expect. So the six foot five Latrell spreewell's hands around your neck 10 seconds is forever that's a long time carlosimo whatever he didn't think so uh so the coaches lead spreewell out of the gym uh where latrell says quote get me the fuck out of here trade me i
Starting point is 01:11:21 hate you motherfucker and knocked over a water cooler on the way out i like it so uh that's i i love it i'd have been i'm a teammate i'm laughing fuck yeah fuck this guy we're one in 13 motherfuckers on his fault he's averaging 21.4 a game what are you doing beard what are you doing beard face what do you got going on she'll take less time trimming your beard in the morning and more time coming up with offensive plays asshole his beard was always perfect it was perfectly it was a great yeah so uh at this point one of the players joined spreewell in the hallway to try to calm him down but carlissimo being an ass wipe uh at the time didn't let this guy talk to him uh and calm him down which there's certain guys on the team that that's their role is they they're the commers and
Starting point is 01:12:04 they're the hey man you know what i'm saying the older guys let's talk about this hey fuck that guy right get yours we'll do this but carlissimo said no fuck him leave him alone everybody in here i don't want to interrupt practice at all for this he just wanted to blow by it like it never happened let's just keep going with practice it didn't happen fuck it spree has your skin under his fingernails. Maybe we wait a minute. Yeah, that's what. Maybe we calm down. Instead, they let Spreewell go.
Starting point is 01:12:28 He went back to the locker room, took a shower, and about 15 minutes later, and the time's disputed. Some people say 10. He says 10. Other people say 20. So we're going to call it 15. Okay. We're going to say that you're both fucking liars.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Okay. Everybody's a liar. Going by the everybody's a liar theory, we'll say 15. Okay. liars okay everybody's a liar going by the everybody's a liar theory we'll say 15 okay so two coaches try to grab him already now because freewell returns from the gym and they're like oh maybe we should grab him uh but by the time they got to him he was already around the baseline where uh carlissimo was watching the full court drill and spreewell said as the coaches tried to grab him don't touch me and then he said toissimo, quote, I'm going to fuck you up.
Starting point is 01:13:06 And then threw punches at him through an overhand right that apparently grazed him and punched him in the shoulder with his other hand while people were grabbing him. So he just starts swinging wildly at his coach after telling him, I'm going to fuck you up and I'm going to kill you. Everybody talks about the choking. The punches are much more dangerous much more dangerous because the choking he was letting him breathe come on so it's at this point where a teammate said uh spreewell later says that a teammate told spreewell he was only making himself look bad and spreewell said all of a sudden he felt humiliated he said that he was he was throwing he was throwing a silly violent tantrum he was yelling trade me trade me and then he looked down and realized that he was
Starting point is 01:13:50 missing his shoe also and so then he said give me my damn shoe which also made him feel stupid because he's just a fucking mess he's like a lunatic on cops now with no drugs in him this is just a normal man no we don't know what but i mean this, but I mean, he doesn't have a cocaine problem or anything. It's not like it's Eddie Johnson doing this, and he just got done doing an eight ball on the bench. This is, you know. So the reaction to all this, Sprewell, about this whole thing, he's like, I'm not a violent guy. He's like, I don't get mad at shit. He said, quote, I don't get upset unless somebody's doing something to me or to my family,
Starting point is 01:14:24 disrespecting me to where I just can't tolerate it okay so that's all he says uh ronnie cycli remember him yeah big hairy greek fuck ugly yeah big big fucking uh his face big greek fuck yeah he looks like a he looks like around mount rushmore but stuck on a human body a stone head they did the the big head mode in in uh nba jam nba jam and his didn't change it's the same if it got any bigger it wouldn't fit on the screen it would have bumped off penny hardaway you can't have that so uh or scott skiles or whatever the fuck he was with at that time he was on miami so it would have been tim hardaway oh that's right that's right it was hard away why did i go to orlando i don't know so So anyway, well, Cycli played for Orlando.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Did he do? That's why, yeah. I forget who the guy was. Because Shaq wasn't allowed to be on the NBA Jam video game, and then Cycli was. Well, he's in it now with Stiles and Anderson. But back then, he had his own game, if you remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like why Barry Bonds was never on.
Starting point is 01:15:20 It was always Sam Fran, number 25, but it wouldn't have a name on any video game. So Ronnie Cycli said of Sprewell, quote, he, quote, always seemed to have this hatred inside him. Even though he never got physical with the coaching staff before, I'd seen him do it to other players in practice, you know, with a two by four. Right now, his coach at Alabama here, Wimp Sanderson. We need a Wimp quote. Well, this post, I don't know. You don't hear enough quotes from anybody named Wimp, so let's figure that out. He says, quote, I think the two years he played for me, I had one minor incident when he was late for a bus one time. So that's not bad.
Starting point is 01:15:56 He said, quote, I don't condone what he did, but I don't have anything but good things to say about Spree as far as the time he played for me. He worked hard and stayed out of trouble. Obviously, Spree has some answering to do here i would say for this uh right away he's handed a 10-day suspension that's just to get him out of the building basically so you don't come back tomorrow so they give him a 10-day suspension right away but obviously this gets a shitload of publicity yeah and it it goes it gets out of fucking control here uh way out of control uh two days afterwards the warriors void his contract uh this he has three years and 23.7 million dollars left on this deal and they void the contract and the nba the next day announces that they're suspending him for a year oh boy so that's a lot to lose 24 million and get suspended for a year is a big deal
Starting point is 01:16:44 uh david stern the silver-haired middle- aged white man extraordinaire of the NBA, who. Yeah. He says, quote, Latrell Sprewell assaulted coach PJ Carlissimo twice at Monday's practice. First, he choked him until forcibly pulled away. Then, after leaving practice, Mr. Sprewell returned and fought his way through others in order to commit a second and this time clearly premeditated assault a sports league does not does not have to accept or condone behavior that would not be tolerated in any other segment of society society accordingly Latrell Sprewell is suspended from the NBA for one year so uh now uh problem is that isn't all too legal because it's not
Starting point is 01:17:24 clearly defined in these contracts and shit like that so spreewell sues yeah he sues the warriors he sues the nba and i've read all these fucking lawsuits he's a sewer spreewell he'll sue the shit out of shit uh yeah uh but as he found out uh you can't really sue for libel if you're famous and shit isn't intended to uh we'll talk about it but uh yeah we pay attention athletes who've threatened us before. That's why you've never followed through, because you can't. Right. Because there's a reason why.
Starting point is 01:17:51 So Sprewell ends up having his contract reinstated after a bunch of legal challenges here. He says that in the court documents here, Carlissimo was an abrasive coach who continually tried to invite confrontation during their two-month relationship. He also, Sprewell, was mad at the investigative process of the NBA's security team, calling its tactics fishy and unprofessional. So he's throwing some shade on that shit. The big deal is they say the choking was one thing.
Starting point is 01:18:24 That was heat of the moment. That happens. But to leave and come back at least 10 minutes later, they're saying that's a premeditated attack. And they said that he should be able to cool. And Sprewell said that he was still angry he didn't have time to cool off. He says, quote, I never left for 20 minutes like they said I did. It was maybe five or 10 minutes, and I was still angry. It wasn't 20 it was 10 but i was still angry here uh yeah it is crazy that a coach can get under his skin that easy and that quick but that dog bites his kid
Starting point is 01:18:56 in the fucking face fine with it and he doesn't lose his goddamn mind it's weird yeah that's what i mean he's got he reacts strangely to things like he strangely to things. Like, his reaction's always a little off of everything. Now, Sprewell also said, quote, I'm not trying to blame it all on him, but every day he was on me, being abusive all the time. Your boss just can't be on you every day like that. It just gets to you after a while. A lot of people said, just suck it up for the money. I love money, but my pride, man manhood and self-respect are more important
Starting point is 01:19:25 i believe i was right okay so that's what he says here uh ask if they asked him if he meant that choking carlissimo was right he said quote i don't condone what i did if i had it to do again i would have walked straight out of practice and straight toward the reporters and told them what i was feeling i just lost control but i wanted to stand up in some way that's how he could have got back at carlissimo he could have got back at Carlissima. He could have went and said, hey, we're one in 13. It's because this guy can't fucking coach. That's what he could have said.
Starting point is 01:19:50 We got a college coach. We got a college coach. He treats everyone like assholes and nobody likes playing for him. And then that would have been something to talk about other than just you would have had some ground to stand on. Like, I average 22 a game. He sucks. Every player on this team has a better car than that man. I'm an all star every year, so it's not my fucking fault.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Talk to this asshole. That guy's car has wood paneling on the side. Fuck him. Yeah, he's driving the family truckster. Fuck this shit. But he makes $7.7 million for that year and gets it back here. He ends up getting $17.3 million of his contract reinstated. So he only loses about $10 million out of the whole deal, which is still a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:20:28 That's a staggering amount of money for a choke and a couple of punches. That's an expensive choke and a graze, but didn't even land. Right. Wow. Can you imagine that? That's a lot. So there was an arbitrator, a guy named John D. Feerick, who is the dean of Fordham Law School.
Starting point is 01:20:43 He's the arbitrator here. He reduced the suspension by 14 games as well. They said he can return to the NBA as soon as July 1st of that year. He'll eventually lose 68 games and $6.4 million in all. It's the longest suspension in team sports history not related to drugs or gambling. Absolutely. So that tells you a lot that's that's a lot right there yeah later on i think it was changed when people were doing crazy shit
Starting point is 01:21:11 criminally but at the time it was i mean ray rice is a little more yeah that was that's fucking indefinite that's a pretty big extension forever yeah uh so this was 106 page decision and it also backed up a lot of spreewell's claims but it also had a lot of graphic counts of the incident accounts of the incident from you know people who were sworn to testify in depositions from exactly uh he said spreewell said it was quote not that bad uh he says this is what he said at the arbitration spreewell quote if you're fearing for your life you don't just stand there. PJ did nothing when I grabbed him.
Starting point is 01:21:48 If you think you're about to die, you think you would do something about it. He didn't stop breathing or anything. He did nothing. I would have to let go. I wasn't going to kill him. He did nothing? He didn't even stop breathing.
Starting point is 01:22:02 I expect someone to at least stop breathing when I choke him. This motherfucker was breathing, rudely breathing all over the place. had his color and everything fucking ridiculous man he said uh uh he said that the warriors of trying to trade him in the off season they asked him about that and he said quote i don't know what they're thinking they didn't seem too pleased with me in the hearing i think they basically hate me after this not everyone but some people you've kind of made their team a laughingstock so uh 21 witnesses testified over four days of this of this whole thing here uh he had filed two grievances one against the warriors for the contract and one
Starting point is 01:22:36 against the league uh for imposing the one-year suspension uh he argued that his he was the first player his attorneys argued he was the first player to be penalized by both the league and a team for a transgression. That's what he said. It was like a double jeopardy thing. His side also argued that the collective bargaining agreement clearly states that a penalty in a case like this could be issued either by a team or the league, but not both. Got it. So you can't double him there. Sprewell said he was surprised by the decision. He said, quote, I was a little shocked, really, to be back with the Warriors,
Starting point is 01:23:07 because that just put him back in the Warriors with everything in their hands. But the more I thought about it, Feerick did the right thing for everybody. He clearly saw there wasn't premeditation, and that the team could not take away my contract on grounds of morality, which is interesting. He also said, quote, I've had other players around the league tell me that their coaches came to them and said, if you have a problem, let's try to talk it out.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Let's try not to choke everyone. Somebody started thinking about, I got some big motherfuckers on this team. Let's not let it get to choking, because I yell at that power forward all the time. He said, quote, if there's anything good to come out of this, that's it. I think the whole incident can help benefit the relationships between players and coaches, as crazy as that sounds right now less unsolved started thinking about how brittle his hip is yeah this is yeah this is not fucking yeah
Starting point is 01:23:53 lenny wilkins is like i better be polite because i'm an old man fucking awesome tom janovich trying not to get knocked out on the court again like he did in the 70s think about how big elijah really is these guys are big that that fucking kevin willis is no joke he looks like a professional wrestler for christ's sake so uh yeah he says spree well he keeps saying he doesn't condone what he did but he's upset by the way he was portrayed in the media over the thing but pat riley took them all into a meeting cocked a gun and was like, y'all got a motherfucking problem. He's got a problem. Straight gangster. Yeah. His hood.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Yeah. I feel like he'd have it. You'd know that he's got a gun. He doesn't need to cock it. He just opens his jacket. What are you motherfucking? He's packing. You know he's packing.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Let's be cool. That's fucking awesome. So Sprewell says he's upset by the way he was portrayed uh in in specific the december 15th 1997 sports illustrated cover where he looked angry uh he said quote it's always a picture of me looking mad or being aggressive he said i never saw pictures of myself where i had a smile on my face it was always negative which i remember that when he was holding the ball and he's like holding it back, I think. He's got, it's like a black cover with a picture of him kind of on like a quarter of the page
Starting point is 01:25:10 and it's like him like with his arms crossed like going like, fuck, or you know, just got finished being mad at something. Or like just like, you know, angry at a foul call or some shit. Maybe I'm seeing him on something else. This was the Sports Illustrated one. With the ball back and like a fucking grimace. That's probably a basketball card or something. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:25:27 P.J. Carlissimo says, quote, it's disappointing to do the right thing and be told it's not the right thing. He says, if I have to, of course, I will coach him again. So he doesn't want to, clearly. Part of the job. Part of the job. Converse drops him as an endorser at this point. That's right, he didn't have Converse. Converse, not anymore. So you think at this point, lie low
Starting point is 01:25:48 Be cool, just lay low March 1st, 1998 Prewell swerves out of an exit-only lane Like out of the exit lane on the freeway And back onto the freeway Striking another car And injuring a couple He is charged with reckless driving
Starting point is 01:26:04 For this little incident here. So July 28, 1998, he pleads no contest to a reckless driving charge and is sentenced to three months of home detention after a no contest plea. There, he could have been sentenced up to six months in jail. He agreed to plead no contest in order to put the case behind him. He says, quote, it's just been been unfortunate i'm just trying to move on it seems like every day it's something new again as a good crime in sports always is and uh he's placed on two years probation and fined one thousand dollars and ordered not to have a gun in his possession which probably for
Starting point is 01:26:41 the best at this point i'm trying to figure like trying to figure, like, what the fuck was he doing? How hard did he hit that car? Well, if you're on the freeway and you go to an exit lane and you go, oh, shit, that's not my exit, and you just jerk the wheel back real quick and hit somebody else, you're both going 70, and who the hell knows what's going to happen. That's on your left side. You're in the fucking driver's seat. How do you not see that car? Jerk it back.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Well, in Cali, he might have been on the left side. Oh, that's a good point. This is in California. There's left hand. He just bounces back out right. He might to who knows i mean fuck la freeway jesus christ so uh man who the hell knows here uh the uh a couple that is injured says they intend to sue spreewell in civil court yeah obviously this was that time this was that well this is every time especially if he's pleads no contest to reckless driving he really doesn't have a leg
Starting point is 01:27:23 to stand on i think that was a settlement. So this happens. This is just bad timing, I think. So this happens July 28, 1998. He pleads guilty to reckless driving. And then October 1998, he opens up a shop called Spreewell Racing. No. See what I mean?
Starting point is 01:27:40 That seems like it's just to be a dick, doesn't it? Which I kind of like, and I kind of think it's ridiculous. Just to be a contrarian. Look what I can do. Look, Sprewell Racing. This is a shop that sells high-performance wheels, tires, suspension systems, and other accessories. It's in San Gabriel, 15 miles east of Los Angeles. Keep that in mind, because that's going to come back, the Sprewell Racing place.
Starting point is 01:28:03 January 21, 1999, when the strike came back, because we remember that was when the NBA came off strike, he is traded, Luttrell is, from the Warriors. To New York? Yeah, to the Knicks, which I was fucking thrilled with. I was like, finally. We did have to give up Terry Cummings, Chris Mills, and John Starks, which, compared to Sprewell, is a bag of shit,
Starting point is 01:28:23 but I love John Starks. And Larry Johnson? Yeah, every Knicks fan loves John Starks, which compared to Sprewell is a bag of shit, but I love John Starks. And Larry Johnson? Yeah, every Nick fan loves John Starks just because of his heart, even though he blew the fucking finals. Never mind. Gary Cummings, John Starks, and who else? Chris Mills. Oh, yeah, he looks fine.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Whatever. That's nice roster filling for Golden State, and they had those guys for a while, too. Really? John Starks wasn't in Golden State that long? He was there for a little while. This was after the strike, though. I fucking walked. That's what though that's what i mean that couple years after that shit was a mess yeah so he goes to the knicks uh young james was a happy guy i was thrilled to have spreewell back there i didn't give a shit who he fucking choked uh this is marcus canby chris childs chris dudley
Starting point is 01:29:00 remember that big stiff center from yale uh patrick e Yale? Patrick Ewing nearing his twilight. Allen Houston, Larry Johnson, Kurt Thomas, Charlie Ward, the Heisman Trophy winner from Florida State quarterback. This is a fun team. David Wingate. Fuck yeah. Herb Williams, the old center. This was a decent squad.
Starting point is 01:29:19 This was a fun squad to watch, and this was a good time to be a Knicks fan. And I'll tell you right now, those times are few and far between. My two favorite teams are the Knicks and the Suns. I had a good run in the 90s where they both made the playoffs all the time. Both of them broke my heart in the finals on back-to-back years, and I'll never, ever be happy with the result
Starting point is 01:29:38 of an NBA season, because neither of my teams will ever win a championship. You can fucking bank on that shit. Ever. Never gonna happen. No, the Suns get that Booker and... The Suns are the worst team in the NBA right now. They're the worst fucking team. They're never going to get better. They're not.
Starting point is 01:29:53 They're not. You know, that Sarver fellow really fucking sunk this whole shit. It's a pile of shit right now. Even their uniforms suck. They're a pile of shit right now. And they're asking for a new stadium? They need a redo. How do you ask for a new stadium when you legitimately, you're worse than everybody.
Starting point is 01:30:09 They're worse than everybody. Everybody. No one wants to watch them. When's the last time you heard anybody say they were going to a Suns game tonight? I hear it from- We live in Phoenix. From comics because they're like, they gave us free tickets. Of course they did.
Starting point is 01:30:21 They sat us right next to the court. Yeah, because you're the only ones there. You're the only ones there. They have to. Those seats are the next to the court. Yeah, because you're the only ones there. You're the only ones there. They have to. Those seats are the closest that are empty. So, Jesus. So this season, strike short in season, obviously. You can really sit on the bench with them if you want.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Probably. They'll probably let you play. The Suns at this point. They might give you a 10-day. Let you go out there and shoot around a little bit. Like hanging with Mr. Cooper. Right. So, 98-99 Knicks. around a little bit like hanging with mr cooper so 98 99 nicks uh this is jeff van gundy who as
Starting point is 01:30:49 you remember was the coach who was uh hanging on uh players legs as they fought which was hilarious this was a 27 and 23 team so not great but they're just over 500 and that's great 50 games they make the playoffs and they uh first round they beat the Miami Heat, which was the whole 90s rivalry. They beat them 3-2. So that was a long series. Then they sweep the Atlanta Hawks 4-0. And then they go to the Pacers. So they have to slay all of their 90s rivalries here.
Starting point is 01:31:19 They beat the Pacers 4-2 in the conference finals. Wow. All the way to the fucking finals against the Spurs. Yep. And I think this was Tim Duncan's rookie year, I believe. Second year, rookie year. And yeah, this was a... But don't worry, when he's not playing, David Robinson's out there. Yeah, this
Starting point is 01:31:35 sucked watching this series. This was a 4-1 Spurs win in the series. Knicks never really had a chance here. Spree had a big playoff game where he had 35 points against uh the pacers to ice a deciding playoff game so he was a he was definitely uh definitely a huge part of this team that uh instrumental in that success absolutely a huge part of this success and in new york if you're a big part of success they fucking love you there
Starting point is 01:32:01 and everybody loved him uh so 98 99 with the uh nicks 30 37 games he only starts four averages 16.4 points per game 4.2 rebounds 2.5 assists 1.2 steals he hasn't ever had a season under a steel game which is pretty impressive he makes 8.3 million dollars for this season wow from his escalating deal uh nights things are getting better for him now he's just went to the finals with the Knicks. He is a darling of New York, man. People fucking loved him. He signs with the And One Shoe Company.
Starting point is 01:32:31 There you go. So he gets another fucking endorsement deal here. Perfect shoe for that guy. Perfect deal. They make a commercial calling him the American Dream. They did. They did an exact... Yeah, it was a pretty interesting commercial.
Starting point is 01:32:44 The commercial kind of made him look like an asshole. And they called him the American Dream, which was fucking cool at the time. It wasn't bad at all. And the Knicks really do make him the American Dream by giving him a new contract. He gets a five year, 62 million dollar deal with the Knicks. Now you're talking. Five year, 62 million dollars. Guaranteed.
Starting point is 01:33:04 He's already made almost 20. Guaranteed. Beautiful. Can you imagine that deal? No. Five years, 62 million. God,
Starting point is 01:33:10 you would have to fucking stab me to get the smile off my face. Carmen San Diego to find me in five years. I would be gone. You're never finding me. Well, and he's easily found. Yeah. As we'll find out here,
Starting point is 01:33:22 September 15th, 1999. He's found by the cops. They find him. They pull him over. He's driving south on I-94 in Wisconsin here when the Racine County Sheriff's Department tells, basically they call in to the Kenosha County deputies to look for two black sports cars, which were reportedly racing.
Starting point is 01:33:43 There should never be a black sports car in Kenosha. No. Never. Wait till you hear the card. Oh, God. Deputies soon saw a Lamborghini. Oh, my God. A black 97 Lamborghini.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Jesus. Pulled it over at 12.07 a.m. It's free while driving. It's his car. He talks congenially with police and expressed concern about street gang problems when he was pulled over. He got pulled over and talked. He's like, yeah, these gangs out here are getting ridiculous, officer.
Starting point is 01:34:10 I am just, I'm scared to go out in my Lamborghini at night. It's just not the same. I'm scared to choke a man in the streets. Do you understand? In order to keep away from them, I have to do 135. I have to. The guy was chasing me. You heard about it.
Starting point is 01:34:23 It wasn't a race. It was a chase. So the passenger here ends up being taken into custody on an outstanding warrant. They did background checks, and this guy named Raymond Pope of Milwaukee had an outstanding warrant for driving after revocation of his license. So Sprewell followed the squad car to the police station and bailed his friend out for 300 bucks. That's nice. And we could have been like have a good one asshole uh at the station uh officers approached him and uh asked to be photographed with him yeah and uh they said one officer said quote he was very cooperative and a real nice person he could have been a jerk but he definitely wasn't uh then
Starting point is 01:35:00 he he kept going on he was talking to the gang crimes unit, and he was very concerned about gang activities in Kenosha, about gang problems in Kenosha. And the cops said, quote, we said we got it under control. And he said, okay, good. So he was like, all right, good, because I was going to do something. What the fuck are you going to do? I was going to go around choking motherfuckers until it stopped. They can't run from me. I was just going to choke them until they stopped.
Starting point is 01:35:23 I clearly have the fastest car in Kenosha. I'll catch them. And I have my new program, which is choke your way off the streets. This is what you do. You choke kids off the streets. It's like scared straight, but it's like scared almost dead. It's scared blacked out. It's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:35:39 When dare doesn't work, choke a kid off drugs. It works. Yeah. So Jesus Christ. So while one cop went to get a camera and to find another cop who would want to take a picture with spreewell because he was a fan of his uh another cop talked to spreewell about the lamborghini this cop said quote he said it goes about 180 miles an hour but he hadn't had it that fast since he was in california
Starting point is 01:36:00 jesus christ haven't had it that fast this side of the Mississippi. Yeah, sorry, pal. So 99-2000 is Jeff Van Gundy again. The Knicks finished 50-32 this year, so a little bit better. They beat Toronto 3-0 in the first round because they had stupid cartoon dinosaurs on their shirt. And in the second round, they beat the Heat 4-3, seven-game series, wears them out, and then they lose in the conference finals to Indiana in a six-game series. Now, Sprewell, we'll talk about his stats and then talk about something hilarious that happened this year.
Starting point is 01:36:35 This year, 82 games, starts all 82 games, averages 40 minutes a game, 18.6 points, 4.3 reb four assists 1.3 steals he's back to old spree well he's nasty he makes nine million that year my man my man and uh at this point december 13th 99 during the season workers at an auto shop owned by him the spree well racing uh were selling vehicles that were stolen in mexico oh no brought up there 19 vehicles are recovered with no relay no arrests related directly to the stolen vehicles at the point of the story here uh search warrants were issued for eight locations after this uh they said it doesn't appear that spreewell is involved in any of the criminal activities uh they said uh his agent robert gist uh by the way remember that name
Starting point is 01:37:25 because he'll come up too uh he'd been in contact and he said that that spreewell was unaware of anything but he'll comment on it later in the week stolen vehicles included jeep grand cherokees ford pickups dodge durangos just shit like that american cars that are easy to steal yeah were allegedly uh being sold by employees at the racing, at Spreewell Racing. They were stolen in Mexico, delivered to the shop, and sold to unsuspecting buyers. They were sold to just people
Starting point is 01:37:49 who didn't know any better. Also, a motorhome and two Sea-Doo watercraft were also recovered, as was $200,000 worth of computer equipment from a cargo theft in Northern California at San Leandro. So they had like a stolen, like a commodities center going on.
Starting point is 01:38:09 It's kind of like a fucking old Fast and Furious thing going on. Yes, and he apparently didn't know it was even happening. Unbelievable. Because he doesn't need the money. He's making $9 million. This wasn't like his cousin was running it. It was just a business where his employees were there. So $99,000, $2,000, like we said, $9 million for him. 99-2000, like we said, $9 million for him.
Starting point is 01:38:28 2000-2001 roster here, our season for the Knicks. 48-34 under Jeff Van Gundy again. They lose in the first round to the Raptors that year. That's ugly. That wasn't good at all. But Sprewell's an all-star. Makes the all-star team again. Starts all 77 games he plays.
Starting point is 01:38:43 39.2 minutes per game. He has just iron legs. He never fucking stops with that shit. He's just an endless energy. 17.7 points a game. 4.5 rebounds. 3.5 assists. 1.4 steals. He's consistent as fuck and an all-star
Starting point is 01:38:58 and also makes $10,125,000. He's really done well for himself. He's done so well for himself at this point. 2001-2002, Knicks finished 30-52. They fired Jeff Van Gundy after 19 games to bring in Don Chaney that year. He had some problems that year, too. He's fined $125,000 by the Knicks for missing a shoot-around before a game with the Miami Heat. The fine represents one-ninetieth of his $11.25 million salary.
Starting point is 01:39:32 He says, Sprewell says, he deserved to be fined. He did miss the shoot-around, but he thinks the amount is excessive. He has 20 days to file an appeal. This is his quote. Quote, I can accept a certain fine, but taking but taking 1 90th is a little too much there's a lot that's a lot but it's so funny the thing taking 1 90th is a it's a weird thing here uh they called it uh conduct detrimental to the team i guess missing a shoot around is detrimental uh he's suspended for a game and uh wasn't in uniform the knicks blew out uh they blew out
Starting point is 01:40:03 somebody 94 to 67. He had started every game before that. He said he missed the morning shoot around because he overslept. And he said, there's no excuse for not calling. I should have called, which is true,
Starting point is 01:40:14 especially when you make $11.25 million. You should probably call. It's a $100,000 nap. I will call every time I eat a sandwich. Hey, I'm eating a sandwich. Okay, cool. For you to pay me that kind of money. $11 million a year. I'll call every time I eat a sandwich. Hey, I'm eating a sandwich. Okay, cool. You pay me that kind of money. $11 million a year.
Starting point is 01:40:27 I'll tell you everything I'm doing. It'll be ridiculous. You can do anything. You follow me around with a camera. You can do anything you want. Whatever. I will send you dick pics all day. You got 11.
Starting point is 01:40:38 You paid for them. Still out. Bought and paid for, mister. You own those. So that season he plays in uh 81 games uh 19.4 points a game which is great 3.7 rebounds 3.9 assists 1.2 steals 11.25 million dollars so crushing it uh 2002 2003 uh knicks 37 and 45 they're just in on their mediocrity kick there. Now, October of 2002, the beginning of the season is when we have some issues. This results.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Okay. Sprewell breaks his pinky and misses six weeks. This results in a federal lawsuit. Why? So how does a broken pinky result in a federal lawsuit? Well, Sprewell bought a, before this summer in May of 2002, Sprewell bought, this is a wise purchase, by the way. We always say, you know, this should be, this is a new crime in sports rule.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Don't buy a 70 foot, $1.5 million yacht. Why would you do that? Don't buy that. A yacht. And he, you know what he called it? What? Milwaukee's best. No. he called it milwaukee's best no he called it milwaukee's best the worst beer on earth milwaukee's best is what he fucking called
Starting point is 01:41:54 his one point you know how much of fucking milwaukee's best you could buy for 1.5 million dollars you can buy the whole factory all of it would be the answer all of it that's ever been made sanity uh why would he buy that well he he said that that he's now he's a boat guy now he's off of cars now he's into boats now buy a yacht no especially if you have no boat experience and he doesn't like hire a crew he just drives it around himself no oh yeah yeah like the new york harbor captain spreewell he keeps it in he keeps it in milwaukee and michigan and up there imagine him with a captain's hat on great lake yeah he's in a fucking lake he lived on it for the whole summer of 2002 yeah you would now the new york post reports that he failed to uh inform the Knicks about his injury and failed to tell them the truth about where it came from.
Starting point is 01:42:48 The New York Post reports that he broke his pinky, missing a punch and striking a wall for good reason. He did this because he was taking a swing at a man because the man's girlfriend had thrown up on his yacht carpet. So when people throw up on your yacht carpet yeah you have to try to punch them i feel like that's yacht etiquette and he missed and he missed the guy and he hit the wall that's the story there he fucking denies that to the hilt really but it makes way more sense that story than what he says and they come out that it's a boxer's
Starting point is 01:43:21 fracture okay his pinky that usually usually get from punching shit. He tells his agent that he believes, he says he didn't even know the fracture was there and it wasn't even, didn't even know it was there until he was doing weightlifting with the Knicks and then realized his finger was hurt and then realized that he needs surgery on a broken pinky. How about the part where your hand is a fucking balloon? Well, I guess this was an old fracture because it had been weeks. He'd done it before. He'd done it, yeah. He said he believed the fracture occurred
Starting point is 01:43:49 while he was skippering his new yacht on the choppy waters of Lake Michigan. Skippering. Skippering. He said... Your yacht doesn't usually bounce around. Well, Lake Michigan can be choppy. Not a 70-foot yacht.
Starting point is 01:44:02 He said it occurred about two weeks before training camp. He said, according to him, his agent said that a wave smacked his boat and messed up his, so he had to scramble to get control of the boat because, you know, he's not a fucking boat captain. And he was frantically pulling on a rope to redirect it. And while he was doing that, he banged his hand in the course of shifting the boat's navigational system. He whacked his hand and so much adrenaline was going. He didn't even know what was going on. Now he's been asked by the Knicks to stay away from training camp.
Starting point is 01:44:36 And he believes he irritated the pinky in the weight room and the boating mishap may have resulted in the fracture. He said, now his agent said, quote, he was so excited so prepared for camp he wished he would have known it was broken he's optimistic he'll be playing before six weeks he's itching to get out of that cast yeah so he's just saying uh spreewell said
Starting point is 01:44:55 quote he told me he's busting his butt a spreewell friend said quote he told me he's busting his butt all summer on that boat he's the driver and it's very physical dropping it's not a driver by the way dropping anchors it's not like uh it's not like he has a captain when i heard he had a fracture i knew it was boat related here's the other thing with a 70 foot yacht you don't drop the you press a button and drop the i don't think he's going out there imagine the anchor that you'd have to throw i'm gonna throw a fucking one ton anchor over the side throwing a fucking volkswagen over the side. You're throwing a fucking Volkswagen over the side? Hey, Bill, get the other end of this. No, that's not how this shit works.
Starting point is 01:45:29 What an asshole. Jesus Christ. He's throwing anchors. No, he's not. I knew it was boat-related, his friend said. I knew he had a boat. When I hear an injury, I think boat-related right away. He should have bought a pontoon boat.
Starting point is 01:45:40 She should have bought a... It's just too much boat. It's too much. It's too much. It's just too much boat. It's too much. It's too much. It's just too much boat. That minimum... I mean, a maximum... He should have at least
Starting point is 01:45:49 called it suck my wake if he was going to do it. Maximum, he should have had a jet boat. He should have had a jet boat, yeah. You don't have a fucking yacht. Jet boat. Jet boat.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Scraping bugs off your teeth with Uncle Roman's jet boat. Jet boat. Sick of riding suck my wake. Suck my wake. Jet boat. Jet boat. Sorry, Dad. You you know you see the lake in comfort you can fish off it you can put the barbecue up there it's just a good time so uh he does not get the
Starting point is 01:46:17 pontoon boat as he should and instead uh the nick gm was uh asked asked questions by the media about how he broke his pinky and they, did he get in a fight? And they called it a boxer's fracture because it usually results from a punch. And they said it normally occurs when someone punches something with no give, like a wall or a pole or frantically roping off a navigate. I don't know. So Sprewell told the Knicks he banged his hand a couple weeks ago and just kind of had some vagueness. told the knicks he banged his hand a couple weeks ago and just kind of had some vagueness and uh spree told me that they never gave him a chance to tell him what happened is what his agent said which i think is insane he had been living on the yacht all summer uh the boat has
Starting point is 01:46:53 two bedrooms a kitchen and a living room and he often sailed from chicago or milwaukee to chicago he didn't sail anywhere it has a fucking motor yeah he didn he didn't sail. And he boated, goddammit. He fucking ran it there. Spree ends up suing the New York Post for slander and libel for reporting how it happened and insinuating that he failed to tell the team about the injury. He sues the Post from the documents. These are from the court documents, and I quote, at issue are four allegedly libelous articles published by the Post on October 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th of 2002, all of which involved an incident on the plaintiff's yacht in which he fractured his fifth metacarpal,
Starting point is 01:47:32 which sounds ridiculous right there in a court document. Thank you. Yeah, it's just in a court document on his yacht. The articles discussed the circumstances under which the injury occurred, including eyewitness accounts that Sprewell took a swing at a guest, missed and hit a wall, and Sprewell's denial of such events. The article also discussed Sprewell's delay in reporting the injury to the Knicks,
Starting point is 01:47:52 the management, and the Knicks' response for the injury or delay in reporting it. The October 8th article reported that, quote, fed up with the saga surrounding Sprewell's broken hand and, more importantly, the failure to inform the club about his injury for two weeks, the Knicks fined Sprewell, surrounding Sprewell's broken hand, and more importantly the failure to inform the club about his injury for two weeks, the Knicks fined
Starting point is 01:48:07 Sprewell $250,000 and banned him from contact with the team for an indeterminate period. That is a steep... Which wasn't true. But that's what they had heard, so that's what they reported. The complaint alleges generally that the articles were, quote, published with actual malice,
Starting point is 01:48:23 exposing Sprewell to public ridicule, contempt, a were, quote, published with actual malice, exposing Sprewell to public ridicule, contempt, aversion, disgrace, and induced evil opinions of him in the minds of right-thinking persons. That's what the lawsuit says. A judge initially rules that the case can proceed. He can sue the Times or sue the Post that year. 2002, 2003, he plays in 74 games, so he came back early from the pinky,
Starting point is 01:48:48 earlier than six weeks. 16.4 points a game, 3.9 rebounds, 4.5 assists. You know the stats. They're the same every fucking year. 1.4 steals, same exact stats. Makes $12,375,000 that year. That'll make your fucking pinky feel better. So February 27th, 2003, he is arrested at a checkpoint after officers discover he's
Starting point is 01:49:12 driving with a suspended license. There's no excuse for this shit. There isn't. I get it if you work fucking 75 hours a week and you work paycheck to paycheck and you can't afford your fine and then it got more and it got out of control and you get suspended license i know people that's happened to and that's brutal because it's a cycle you can't get out of unless you get a big chunk of money from somewhere he can go settle any traffic shit he has chunk of money is there settle it every
Starting point is 01:49:39 year get rid of it uh instead uh they he's pulled over at the base of the West Side Highway while he's driving. It's about 10 a.m. He paid a fine and was released in less than two hours. His license had been suspended after he failed to answer a summons for failing to signal at one point. Ridiculous. Pay it. He drives like a dickhead. Just fucking pay your shit off.
Starting point is 01:49:59 The team said they won't take any disciplinary action because they're like, he broke his finger. He's choking people and we trade for him. We don't fucking care. It's traffic. Think we care about a traffic violation? So March of 2003, papers are filed in Manhattan Family Court alleging Sprewell has been short changing his $2,000 a month child support obligation. What?
Starting point is 01:50:21 This is for Mitraline. You've got a fucking million dollar boat and you're not paying your child support obligation what this is for mitraline you got a fucking million dollar boat yeah and you're not paying your child support he's not really paying for the boat as we'll find out soon either but this mitraline mitraline uh acknowledged that uh spreewell is the father of her teenage daughter raquilla and has been paying and she he's been paying her two thousand dollars a month for the support her lawyer said that that Mitraline wants the increased child support secured by a court order, not just Sprewell's good intentions. They said to get the court order support, the court has to declare that Sprewell is Aquila's father,
Starting point is 01:50:58 which he's been paying child support for a long time. I would say that's a pretty good idea. You think that you're the father at that point. For a long time. Yeah. I would say that's a pretty good idea. You think that you're the father at that point. Now, Sprewell said he's baffled by the allegations that he failed to pay proper child support.
Starting point is 01:51:14 He said, quote, it's a situation that I've been taking care of this child for 15 years now. Not my daughter, this child. All of a sudden, you've got three years left and you want to renegotiate or do whatever. I don't really know what the extent of this whole filing is. It's three years. not a contract it's a kid's not it'll be 18 in 53 years wants her money paid and he says quote uh the thing that i find more disappointing though is that uh mitchell lean couldn't come to me because it's been 15 years where we've been having this communication it's been good communication and then you have this so i don't know what this is about i'm sure i'll find out very soon and she uh says that she's received the $2,000 a month
Starting point is 01:51:47 but got nervous when he broke his hand under mysterious circumstances and missed the start of the season. The lawyer said, quote, she was really concerned about what happened with his hand and was concerned about the future of his professional career. This lawyer that Mitch mitcher lean got uh it has represented the uh
Starting point is 01:52:07 the impregnated uh uh gal pals of uh puff daddy of uh ice tea and zab judah oh boy so this is kind of she's a she's a she goes after knows how to go after these guys our child support absolutely uh so they said right after the fiasco with his hand, Mitraline said that Sprewell started ducking her calls and ducking calls from his daughter as well. And the lawyer said that she's seeking an order of child support
Starting point is 01:52:34 in the amount equal to 17% of the adjusted gross income of Sprewell. Oh, fuck. Which is a fuckload. Yeah. And payment for medical, dental, educational, summer camp, and other expenses because 17 of 62 million won't cut that shit apparently how much does she
Starting point is 01:52:52 need apparently 17 and that is fucked up she should be scoring five points a game she wants to get 20 of his or four points a game you better get in there and play eight minutes i want to rebound out of you and like a quarter of a steal. Get in there, I think is what he's... You're playing eight minutes. That's a lot, though. That's a lot. He should be paying more than $2,000 a month if he's making $62 million.
Starting point is 01:53:13 But 17, can we find a happy medium? That's crazy. To where she's comfortable, the child's well taken care of, and it's not insanity. Can we find that? It's stupid money. So July 23rd, 2003, there's a four-team trade where Sprewell is traded by the Knicks to the Minnesota Timberwolves. What? Yeah, he was on the Timberwolves the last couple of years there.
Starting point is 01:53:34 The Atlanta Hawks traded Glenn Robinson. Remember him? A lot of people involved in this. Terrell Brandon. Mark Jackson was involved. Keith Van Horn went to the Knicks. This was a big mess of a trade of a bunch of shit. So 2003, 2004, he plays for the Timberwolves.
Starting point is 01:53:52 This is the Sam Cassell, Kevin Garnett, those guys, Fred Hoiberg, that kind of guy there. Oliver Miller was on this team. Oh, boy, Wally Zerbiak, Michael Oluwakandi, the bust first-round center, Gary Trent. This is a second-tier team here. Poor Minneapolis. But they were a good team.
Starting point is 01:54:13 Were they? Flip Saunders coaching, 58-24 they went this year. Yeah, they were shit before that. This trade made them good somehow. It was really weird. Kevin McHale looked like a fucking genius as the gm that year they go to the playoffs they win in the first round four to one over the nuggets uh they beat the sacramento kings four to three in a seven game series in the second round they go to the western conference
Starting point is 01:54:35 finals and lose to the juggernaut lakers at that point in six games that was shack kobe lakers you weren't beating them in the conference finals. Not with that roster. They had Fisher and Ori, too. Yeah, that was a nasty team. That lineup was so deep. You weren't beating them. Spreeth here starts all 82 games for Minnesota. Has a great year there.
Starting point is 01:54:57 37.8 minutes a game. 16.8 points. 3.8 rebounds. 3.5 assists. 1.1 steals. Same Latrell. Same Latrell. Shows up. He's 33 years old.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Jesus. Just keeps playing the same. Makes $13.5 million also, which isn't too shabby. 2004, 2005, Minnesota again. Now, during this season, this is fucking amazing. We're going to do a great in their own words here on this. season this is fucking amazing and we're going to do a great in their own words here on this during the season october 31st 2004 the timberwolves offer spreewell a three-year 21 million dollar contract extension which comes at the end of his contract where he'll be about 35 years old yeah
Starting point is 01:55:38 just shy of his 35th birthday they're going to offer him to play until he's 38 and make another $21 million. Cash in. And he publicly says that he is insulted by the offer, declaring, quote, I have a family to feed. Now, we're going to do it in their own words on this. Oh, my God. Let's do it in their own words. By the way, Taylor is Glenn Taylor, the owner of the Timberwolves that he refers to. But we definitely need an in their own words because this is fucking bonkers. In their own words, quote, I have a family to feed.
Starting point is 01:56:15 If Taylor wants to see my family fed, he better cough up some money. Otherwise, you're going to see these kids on one of those Sally Struthers commercials soon. $21 million. First of all, he made $13 million in the last season, and he said if this guy doesn't cough up some money, his kids are going to wind up on Sally Struthers commercials where starving children have flies all over them. I don't think so. For $0.36 a day.
Starting point is 01:56:38 $0.36 a day. He can feed Latrosse Freewell's kids. So they also asked him in the paper, well, don't you want to be here? The team's good. You guys went to the conference paper well you know don't you want to be here the team's good you guys went to the conference finals last year don't you want to help them win a title don't give a fuck he says quote why would i want to help them win a title they're not doing anything for me i've got a lot of risk here i've got my family to feed 21 million dollars pretty good money for the end of your career to play your last the last it's 38 you're gonna play till
Starting point is 01:57:03 they're gonna pay you seven million dollars to play as a 38-year-old man. You've made $40 million. They want to pay you half of that for three years. A 38-year-old shooting guard. Right. I bet you you won't be slashing through the lane with quite such vigor at 38. So he ends up declining the extension. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:57:18 And the Wolves offer him nothing more. That's it. They just let it fall. He doesn't take the money. He doesn't take it at all. November 2004, while this is going on on this is the same time period minneapolis police say that the department's internal affairs unit met with spreewell and is investigating a charge of spreewell's uh he said that he had a previous encounter with an officer and uh had a problem with him he received a misdemeanor citation after arguing with the officer around this time.
Starting point is 01:57:47 He said he was riding, riding in a vehicle that was stopped in downtown Minneapolis and Sprewell spoke up when the driver was being questioned about licensing and insurance. He's in the passenger seat going, why the fuck are you bothering? Shut the fuck up. Let me talk to the cop. Asshole. Never be that person. If you're in a car and the person
Starting point is 01:58:05 gets pulled over unless that cop asks you shit you don't say a fucking word it's not you shut the fuck up it's nothing to do with you unless they talk to you you shut the fuck up don't try to add anything don't help dummy don't help right so uh he was told not to interfere and was ticketed for failing to obey the lawful order of a police officer. Then he, in turn, filed an internal affairs complaint against this officer. He was given a form to detail his allegations. Should we be releasing this? This is so fucking stupid.
Starting point is 01:58:38 I am terrified. Jesus Christ. The cop said that he hadn't received the report or any indication Sprewell intends to give a statement about it to the newspaper. So 2004, 2005, he plays for Minnesota again. This year, somehow, Flip Saunders gets fired. He goes from going to the conference finals to getting shit-canned in the middle of the year for being 25 and 26, which I think is a little... That's decent. That seems a little rash, a little rash of a firing.
Starting point is 01:59:06 And they bring in, shocker, the GM comes down from the booth, comes down from his office, and Kevin McHale decides, I got this. I'll go ahead and coach this from here. He goes 19 and 12 the rest of the way, and they miss the playoffs, finishing 44 and 38. Sprewell here plays
Starting point is 01:59:21 in 80 games, starts 79, plays 30.6 minutes per game, 12.8 points a game this year, 3.2 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 0.7 steals. Worst year of his career because he's 30 fucking four years old and could really use that $21 million right about then. He makes $14.625 million that year. That's a nice season. That's a nice chunk of change here. For nothing. For nothing.
Starting point is 01:59:47 Now, in the summer of that year, the Nuggets, Cavaliers, and Houston Rockets all expressed interest in signing him, but he doesn't sign with any of them at that point. He never ends up playing in the NBA again. Never again. Never again. Turns down a $21 million three-year deal and never gets signed by anybody again. God, he's so weird. He's so weird. That what i mean he's such a weird fucking guy uh he plays in 913 games he starts 868 of them averages 38.6 minutes per game which is outstanding
Starting point is 02:00:16 18.3 points per game uh 4.1 rebounds four assists 1.4 steals4 steals, 0.4 blocks. It's a fucking hell of a career. That's such a good career there. Now, one month into the 2005-2006 season, he's still not on a team. His agent, this Bob Just guy or Gist, whatever it is, he said that Luttrell would rather retire than play for the NBA minimum salary. He said, quote, Luttrerell doesn't need the money that badly to go from being offered seven million to taking one million. That would be a slap in the face. Then he says that Sprewell planned to wait until, quote, teams get desperate around the trade deadline and then he'll sign with a contending team.
Starting point is 02:00:59 And that never fucking happened. By the way, the agent also said that Sprewell would not be interested in signing for a $5 million mid-level exemption. He said he won't take that either. What the shit? He called that amount of money, quote, a level beneath which Sprewell would not stoop or kneel. That's what he said. So he's not taking that. That's a very, very high road that he's taking.
Starting point is 02:01:19 I would say, because his career is fucking over. He ends up making $97,060,000 in his career. $97,060,000 from the NBA. And plus contracts with... Endorsements, Converse, all that shit. Unbelievable. Yeah, that's not too shabby. March of 2006, he's offered actual contracts
Starting point is 02:01:42 after the trade deadline, just like they said, by the Mavericks and Spurs. The Spurs were a good fucking team at that point, and the Mavs weren't bad either. They were both heavy favorites in the West there. And Sprewell failed to respond to their offers. Didn't even say no. Didn't even fucking bother to respond to them and remained as a free agent. Also, the Lakers tried to contact him and couldn't get a hold of him
Starting point is 02:02:06 and didn't want to go there. Boy, is he dumb. So dumb. Couldn't have went and just played with Shaq and Kobe and just won championship. Go get a goddamn ring. Stupid. So August 30, 2006, speaking of stupid, he's on a boat here. He's on the yacht, which is always a bad.
Starting point is 02:02:20 Whenever he's on the yacht, it's not good. Oh, boy. Milwaukee police are investigating a claim by a 21-year-old female that claims she and Sprewell were having consensual sex aboard his yacht when Sprewell began to strangle her. Oh, boy. Police observed red marks on her neck, and they were investigating the allegation and searched Sprewell's yacht for evidence. and search Sprewell's yacht for evidence. They said that the police said Sprewell voluntarily appeared at the police station with his attorneys, gave police permission to search his boat,
Starting point is 02:02:54 and they declined to say if Sprewell was going to be a suspect in the assault. More on that in a moment. Also that summer, 2006, on the boat, more boat news. This is the most yacht news we've ever had from crime and sports uh if we had a yachting guy like one of those america's cup guys there'd be less shit happening on a yacht than happens in this story uh he has to have his his boat freed by fishermen after he runs it aground near atwater beach just north of milwaukee so i am the captain now i think it ran and his captain hat fell off and he was like, shit. He spilled his drink. At this point, a Somali boat pirate is a better captain than he is.
Starting point is 02:03:32 They're way better. They're not running aground everywhere. So he ran aground. He refused to pay a company that does that shit to tow it out. He just left it there. He refused to pay until finally local fishermen on tugboats had to do it because it was just in their way. Wow. So it was such an obstruction for so long.
Starting point is 02:03:50 They were like, fine, we'll fucking tow this thing out ourselves and just let it fucking drift off. And they just let it drift? Let it park there or whatever the fuck they do here. So pretty goddamn crazy here. Now, on September 6th police declined publicly say they declined to press charges for the assault on spreewell and they say that they think the woman made the whole thing up spreewell uh they not the consensual sex part of the strangling part she was like hey he strangles what the hell uh he then spreewell also seeks a restraining order along with other
Starting point is 02:04:22 civil remedies against the accuser i guess she got a little pushy and uh aggressive with him on trying to collect money yeah basically for yeah she i think she was trying to say i'll drop the whole thing if you give me a five million dollars that's that's the that's the uh they basically said we can't tell you the details but here's the gist this is what it sounds like i don't know if that's true or not. So don't sue us for slander. As we'll find out, you can't. Never mind. So December 2006. He's having a weird fucking year.
Starting point is 02:04:50 This guy needs something to take his energy away. There's a reason why he plays 40 minutes a game. He's got a lot of fucking energy. His longtime girlfriend, Candace Cabell, the same one that he got with in 1990 in college. He's still with her. She obtained a restraining order against him she uh but didn't have it served to him yet uh and apparently he shows up and attacks her oh no
Starting point is 02:05:15 uh he stormed into the house from police reports shoved uh candace into a bedroom uh smashed her finger as he ripped a cell phone out of her hand and tried to call for help and he slapped her and then dragged her allegedly dragged her down a flight of stairs by her feet which is dangerous uh and shoved her out of the door this is a lot of illegal activity yeah he broke in i can't do that stormed in beat her up slapped her around also while she's trying to call for help put the phone away that's a separate charge dragged her down the stairs by her feet which is a fucking that's horrible and then threw her out of the house and closed the door he just ejected her from the fucking house yeah like a bouncer which by the way stay tuned so god damn it latrell
Starting point is 02:06:00 he does all this and then he locks himself inside the house. This is in Westchester. It's in Purchase, New York. Locks himself inside the mansion, and obviously she has police called, and the police come, and basically has a standoff in his house for an hour and a half with the police. It's a very weird standoff. It's super strange. He would poke his head out the front window of the second story uh there every once in a while to shout shit at the officers and his girlfriend fuck you bitch
Starting point is 02:06:31 fuck you motherfuckers and then pop his head back in the house uh an officer said quote he was acting crazy the man just wouldn't come out of the house cops tried to negotiate with uh with him for an hour and a half but he would all he would do is shout from the window that he didn't do anything to candace that's all he would say they said uh during the whole hour and a half many verbal requests were made to mr spreewell to cooperate with the investigation and come down and open the door to let us in mr spreewell responded to those requests by saying that he would not let us in unless we had a warrant uh so during the standoff he would use his kids uh he would parade them in front of the windows to say look they're
Starting point is 02:07:10 not fucked up they're fine and then like shove them aside like he'd take come on kids we're gonna show the cops you're not hurt look at the kids they're fine go on kids good they're not good i'm sure eventually this is brilliant candace cabell asked him to at least give her her purse. She said, at least give me my purse. So they wait a couple minutes, and then the front door opens, and the purse comes out, and he closes it again.
Starting point is 02:07:34 He put it on the front stoop and closed the door. Oh, man. So she goes into the purse, gets her keys out, opens it, and lets the cops in. And that's the end of the standoff. She literally picked it up, went in, unlocked it, and goes you go he was like keys damn it fuck shit messed it up so january 29 2007 uh this is the same woman candace here uh this is a couple weeks later a few weeks
Starting point is 02:08:00 later is suing latrell sprewell for $200 million. He didn't make that much. That's a lot. He can't pay that. That's what I would say now. She alleges Sprewell broke their long-term cohabitation deal and roughed her up, obviously, in that incident. She brought the lawsuit in a U.S. district court in Manhattan, saying that he ended the arrangement that developed after they met in 1989 when they were at the University of Alabama. that developed after they met in 1989 when they were at the University of Alabama. She says that on September 8th of this year,
Starting point is 02:08:27 which is his birthday, by the way, he broke his promise to share his life and fortune with Cabell. He entered the home and announced that they, quote, needed to end this fake relationship, is what he said. They have four kids. That's pretty real. That's real. That's fucking real.
Starting point is 02:08:43 You can call it whatever you want. It's as relationship as it gets. If you live with a woman and you have four kids kids that's a pretty real that's real yeah that's fucking real you call it whatever you want this is relationship as i guess if you live with a woman and you have four kids that's a relationship that's real so uh spreewell i guess started giving candace less money than usual for household expenses for their children at this point ages three seven eight and eleven and made him scarce when she tried to find him, is what the lawsuit says. They also say that Cabell is also listed as a legal guardian for his 16-year-old, for Aquila, also. So during the lawsuit here, they brought, apparently, the whole thing, she says that he told her that she had, quote, nothing to worry about, and that she owned everything he owned.
Starting point is 02:09:26 That's what he told her. But then they weren't married. She didn't own anything. Yeah, but he didn't marry her. He didn't put her name also on that home that he bought for $3 million in Purchase, New York. He never put her name on it, too. It's just his name on it. his name on it uh she says she gave up a 25 000 job a year a year job at a hospital to have their first child in 1995 and said at the lawsuit that there was rarely less than a hundred thousand
Starting point is 02:09:52 dollars in the couple's joint bank account okay but listen you gave up a 25 000 job yeah you weren't 95 yeah but you weren't gonna make, no. You can't sue for that shit. $200 million is... That's bananas. That's what I mean. 17%, $200 million, they're all... Stupid. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:10 She said that also Sprewell hired a babysitter and a house cleaner, bought Cabell new cars and registered Cabell as his wife with the National Basketball Association so she could receive health insurance. So he, for all intents and purposes, set her up as his wife and then just was like fuck it you gotta leave right so she was like i don't think so but they weren't married but they weren't married so uh spree well uh yeah i guess the couple agreed when he was traded from the nicks to the timberwolves they said that she would stay with the children in new york because they had a big house there and uh spree well and that's when spree well lived on his yacht so that's when that happens boats and hoes yes boats and hoes so february 24th 2017 he is banned from seeing his
Starting point is 02:10:51 kids uh because of the accuse uh the accusation of assault on their mother uh he may only speak to his children by phone email or text message a judge said here uh it's an order of protection because it was endangering the welfare of a child was in the in the charges because they were in the house and all this was going on uh yeah so uh he uh he it's obstructing governmental he's charged with third degree assault obstructing governmental administration that's a one way to put it and five counts of endangering the welfare of a child okay june of this is 2007 is a bad year it sounds like it's getting worse june of 2007 his lawsuit gets thrown out against
Starting point is 02:11:32 the new york post uh he judge rules that he cannot proceed with the liable lawsuit a panel of judges from a state appeals court granted summary judgment uh in favor of the new york post uh spreewell sued the paper like we said, and basically the reporter said that he received the information contained in his articles from confidential sources. He refused to reveal the source's identity, citing his promise of confidentiality and the New York State Reporter's Shield Statute, which gives reporters an absolute right to protect their source's identities. Because Sprewell's a public figure, he had to prove that Berman wrote false and defamatory statements about him with actual malice right
Starting point is 02:12:09 instead of just accident right because he got i mean information's out there you come across bad information you didn't do it on purpose yeah so uh the uh he says that uh that has to be knowledge that the statements made are false or reckless and a disregard for whether they are false. That's why you pissy athletes can't sue us ever. That's the reason why. Because we take information from the Internet, from all these sources. We take it from news sources, from court documents. I don't just make it up whole cloth.
Starting point is 02:12:38 So it's out there. So I have a reasonable expectation that it may be true. So that's why I can say it and Jimmy can say it. You can't say shit the fuck about it. And then we can make fun of you as much as we want because that's satire, dickhead. Damn right. So enjoy, Latrell, even though I do like you. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 02:12:52 Well, especially, I don't like you after you dragged your wife down the steps by her feet. That was really shitty. That's maybe the only move that I really don't like, like even a little bit. Yeah, the choking the girl was proved to be not true. Yeah. So that's fine. Also, some chicks yeah well apparently she said she said it was not uh but still right it ended up she made it up
Starting point is 02:13:10 anyway so uh the appeals court held that regardless of the source's credibility spreewell had quote not presented any evidence to raise a triable issue of fact concerning actual malice let alone sufficient evidence to establish actual malice made clear by convincing evidence. So eat dicks at the road. Yeah. Jack is what they basically tell him. Hit the road. Latrell.
Starting point is 02:13:31 Right. So about a month later, federal marshals seize his yacht. They seize his yacht in Manitowoc up where Stephen Avery is there. The making a murder area. My sister's the judge that presided over that case married my older sister. Not like married her like you'd be my wife, like presided over her wedding. Presided over the wedding, officiated the wedding. Okay, that's funny.
Starting point is 02:13:54 So this is about 80 miles north of Milwaukee. Sprewell's firm, LSF Marine Holdings, Jesus Christ, hadn't made its $1022 monthly payments he was paying over 10 grand a month for a yacht holy shit holy fuck uh on a time or managed and necessary and he also didn't manage the necessary insurance on the boat the bank said he bought the yacht built by italian firm azimut beniti in 2003 uh there so now holy shit he's been that is so much boat he's had such a bad fucking year it's just too much boat it's a lot he's had his yacht taken he's had fucking he can't see his kids he's been what he jesus you don't even have your yacht to retreat to at this point he's got a house in milwaukee he goes to that's the only place he can go if the only place you can go is milwaukee
Starting point is 02:14:49 sad times yeah it's fucking sad times man to walk he's got yeah he's got no friends no nothing at this point too i mean everybody's his wife this one's suing him and this one's suing him also and they all want money from him i mean he has his only way to get any control of his life because he does this sometimes like he just said i need to get some control and feel like i'm in charge i need to redecorate my house so he calls somebody up and they come and knock on the door and of course it's dexter manly interior decorator from new york city and he says, how is it you come to arrive here? What is wrong? What are you doing?
Starting point is 02:15:33 What are you doing? You're buying boats, big boats. People are throwing up. You're taking swings at them. You're suing. You're white trash. I'm sorry. Indeed.
Starting point is 02:15:41 This is what white trash does. They get a boat and they go out on the lake and they get shit-faced drunk and they fight each other. That's what you're doing. I don't care if it's a 70-foot yacht or a 7-foot dinghy. You're fucking it up. That's all I'm going to say. You fucked everything up. $21 million. Listen, let me tell you what I'd do for $21 million, mister.
Starting point is 02:15:58 It's a lot. Let's just say that. It's really endless. It's boundless. I'm sorry. You're white trash. I have to go. This is ridiculous. I'm not touching your house. Trashy. Goodbye. Poof. And in a puff of purple glitter and feathered boas, he is gone.
Starting point is 02:16:12 And Luttrell is fucking real confused. He tried to choke him, but he poofed. He tried to choke him, and he was gone. He was like, damn it. Fuck. I can't choke away all my problems. He's left standing there with a feathered boa between his hands. Yeah, just trying to choke his problems away you can't choke away all your problems everybody
Starting point is 02:16:29 there's a lesson to be learned here uh february 1st although you can choke everything else away you can choke a lot away yeah yeah definitely now february 1st 2008 this is okay here this is good for spreewell uh prosecutors in new york agreed to drop the assault charge uh against him with his girlfriend there uh prosecutors said that the charges will be dismissed in a year if he stays out of trouble so they give him one of those delayed deals where don't fuck up for a year and we'll dismiss it uh now i don't know if there was a stat was also based on a settlement with her or how that worked now february 7 2008 his uh yacht is uh jesus christ his yacht is auctioned off yeah it's sold at public auction for 856 000 good deal not too shabby uh he owed 1.5 million
Starting point is 02:17:19 dollars on it though so he's got to make up a little bit of difference a hundred thousand dollars yeah and from what he paid he owes about 500 grand on it still that they're and uh they also the uh the company that he owed said in court filings that it plans to go after the rest okay they want latrell's money uh stand in fucking line guys because uh april of 2008 he's got a house in foreclosure oh the the market didn't treat him well no apparently not uh this is a bad time for the market but he should have had a little put aside for this i would say at a 97 million right but a couple million aside you know stuff it in a pillowcase somewhere put it in your closet somewhere you know uh between september 2007 and january 2008 he failed to make his mortgage payments on
Starting point is 02:18:02 this home of 2593 dollars per month uh he must have put a pretty good sized fucking down payment uh uh well i mean the it's the the house is well we'll talk about it here uh uh citizens bank filed a foreclosure suit uh for the four hundred five thousand dollar home that he bought in 1994 okay so this is the his kind of his first you, it's not a mansion. No. It's just a nice house. $400,000. Yeah, it's a good house.
Starting point is 02:18:28 It's a nice house. The bank said Sprewell owed $295,138 in outstanding payments plus interest. Why wouldn't you pay that off? Why don't you own that? Why wouldn't you pay that off? Why do you still have a payment? When you're making $11 million a year, go, you know what? I'm going to drop fucking 300 grand on this house.
Starting point is 02:18:45 You're just going to go ahead and own this. Just get it off my books. Not have to fucking worry about it. Pay property taxes every year and that's it. Absolutely. May 20th, 2009, his father dies. Oh, no. His father is, according to a medical examiner's report, he was going northbound on North Granville
Starting point is 02:19:00 Road on a motorcycle when a southbound Chevy Suburban turned left in front of the motorcycle. And he struck the SUV. He was not wearing a helmet and was pronounced pudding at the scene, I assume. Was pronounced tapioca pudding dripping from a grill of a Chevy Suburban at the scene. That was La Fonda? That was La Tosca. La Tosca Fields. God damn it.
Starting point is 02:19:27 Bad motherfucker. So yeah, Fields is dead here. His daughter, do you think La Tro- Poinciana Spree- No. P-O-I-N-C-I-A-N-A. No.
Starting point is 02:19:42 Poinciana? No. What the fuck is that? Why did he do that to her poinciana spreewell here who's fields his daughter and spreewell's half sister at least i believe oh poinciana spreewell so it's the other one so it's his full sister she said quote he loved his motorcycle and he took pride in it and he was very careful in riding his bike he was very accepting and wear fucking helmet he was very loving and kind and will be greatly missed by all of his family and friends.
Starting point is 02:20:06 Now, July 2009, the purchased New York home that he had a standoff in, what goes into foreclosure status? Jesus. It was purchased in 2000 for $2.3 million, and it's now, when it's foreclosed on in 2009 on the market, for $1.5 million. It was assessed in 2008 at 3.5 million dollars in a year it lost half yeah that's what happened that's what happened to that holy shit that was a big drop off yeah it was 3.2 uh 3.32 acres of flat usable land and it's a 9200 square foot house six bedrooms 10 baths uh and geez and two half baths so too much no shit jesus at least you're living in that house it's a lot of house uh it's a lot of house it's too much house
Starting point is 02:20:52 they said uh it's uh granite countertops four fireplaces a sauna slash steam room an attic to finish basement and of course a basketball court of course gotta have that uh 2010 there's a story from a bar worker uh that says that they ran into spreewell in a bar at this time he was a bouncer so it just says that he'd come in and this was like a common thing he quote this is great quote latrell came sauntering up with three beat up 40 something year old women it was a sight to behold he still lives and practically relies on his being recognized and having
Starting point is 02:21:27 drinks bought for him. So whenever a drunk college kid would come up to him, he would only accept a free drink if the guy bought the three hogs a drink as well. He's got a nice little racket going on. So that's what he said. That's how he's surviving? Bouncer's a dick, first of all. But besides his
Starting point is 02:21:43 dickish language here, that's apparently he'd go out with three ladies and just be like, hey, on me. You can hang with a dude. Not on me. As long as you buy four extra drinks. Hey, buy it for my lady friends. And so, yeah, hell of a racket, he says, going on.
Starting point is 02:21:58 2011, Wisconsin lists its top tax deadbeats with Luttrell high on the list, owing $3.5 million in backstate taxes. Taxes. Taxes. State taxes, mind you. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:10 Yeah. Federally, they've been in prison already, but state, they'll fucking just put it on TV that you owe money. Right. So December 31st, 2012, New Year's Eve, he is arrested for disorderly conduct at four in the afternoon on New Year's Eve. What? He didn't even get to see the ball drop. He didn't even get to see the ball drop.
Starting point is 02:22:26 He didn't even get to see the sun drop. It's ridiculous. It's still light out. Even in December in Milwaukee, which is like, what, two hours of light a day, it peeks out from behind the clouds and goes back in when it sees it's over in Milwaukee. It's still light out and he's arrested already. It goes, ew, Milwaukee, never mind, and it runs back into the clouds. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:22:47 So the police received repeated complaints about loud music coming from his house on East Pleasant Street. According to this here, police wouldn't release a lot of the details here. But according to the report, they received two complaints within one hour Monday afternoon and had received several complaints of loud music in recent months from here. A neighbor told Fox 6 News, quote, every time he was home, it seemed like the music was really loud. It did actually rattle his window sometimes. He just took advantage of having a house where he could play loud music all the time, regardless of the nine units that are facing him.
Starting point is 02:23:24 Holy shit. So. He's staying in a place that has not. Want to talk about the place? Yeah. Because I know all about the place. Oh, God. Sprewell rents this place.
Starting point is 02:23:33 Yeah. The owner of the place paid $385,000 for it in 2005 when the market was high. Yeah. It's now valued at that time at $307,000. And the taxes were all paid up to date by this person. It's a duplex converted into a single-family home, 2,044 square feet, including three bedrooms, two baths, a fireplace, and a detached garage in the back, which Sprewell parks his SUV in front of rather than inside of. How many basketball courts does it have? Zero.
Starting point is 02:24:04 One fireplace. I believe there's a park down the street with one of those chain nets if he wants to get in there and be careful not to hurt his hands on that thing. So, yeah, that's where he's at there. Ouch. Now, August 2014, he's said to be bouncing at a bar called Mikey's in Wisconsin on weekdays. On weekdays? On weekdays. On weekdays.
Starting point is 02:24:27 He's working a Monday through Friday. His gig is, now we don't know this for a fact. He didn't say this, but several people posted online, hey, I go to Mikey's and Latrell Sprewell's a fucking bouncer on weeknights. This is weird. Like he's checking people's IDs with his cornrows and shit. It's super fucked. This is just odd. What the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 02:24:46 So, I mean, I don't give a fuck if the person I mean, obviously, if they're a murderer or like a child rapist or something, you want someone to lose. But someone makes 97 million, pulls himself up from shit. You don't want to see this happen. You feel bad for them. I feel bad for a lot of people but not nearly jimmy as bad fucking way as i feel for latrell spreewell now i don't know if this is him or not but i don't think it is because i'll tell you why in a second here this is on linkedin latrell
Starting point is 02:25:18 spreewell his profile says he is self-employed in new York, New York in the entertainment industry and lists his experience, work experience as a, quote, writer. I have not known Latrell Sprewell to write shit. No. So I'm assuming that is not him. It's somebody that their dad was a fan. Some poor bastard named Latrell Sprewell. Jesus Christ. Is that the only one?
Starting point is 02:25:43 That's it. That's the only Latrell's freewell i could find there might be more but they're not online they're hiding if they are uh 2016 he joins twitter okay because what the fuck why not and immediately the first day he joins one of the first things he does is announce his support for donald trump for president no i swear to god shut your mouth i swear to god fuck he tweets fucking i love donald God. What the fuck? He tweets fucking, I love Donald. My kind of guy. Him for president.
Starting point is 02:26:07 Right. So I'm like, what the fuck is happening? What is going on here? How much does he get barraged with joke jokes? Jesus. I know. That's Jesus Christ. You don't want to be on Twitter, Latrell.
Starting point is 02:26:18 No. He does not need to be on Twitter. What is it? Latrell Sprewell 3 or something? Was that his number three? We'll get to it at the end. No, no. It was 15 and then 8 on the next.
Starting point is 02:26:24 There you go. We'll get to it. So end. No, no. It was 15 and then 8 on the next, but we'll get to it. So 2016, he's on a Priceline commercial, Priceline.com commercial. Do you remember seeing this? No. It's a father books a hotel in San Antonio so he can take his daughter to a Spurs game. While he's there, they get to meet David Robinson, this legendary Spurs player. David Robinson is considered the most upstanding NBAba player ever he's a naval academy graduate he's like this the most good best posture and his arms were amazing yeah yeah yeah god jesus his arms every no one has a bad word to say about
Starting point is 02:26:55 david robinson and uh robinson gives her advice that the key to success is quote hard work and a great attitude then the scene shifts to what would have happened if they didn't take the trip. And it is they watch the same game at a restaurant and Latrell Sprewell's there. And he tells the little girl, Sprewell turns to the little girl. I gotta give him this. He's got a sense of humor. Sprewell turns to the little
Starting point is 02:27:18 girl and says, quote, success is just failure that hasn't happened yet. And then he eats one of her french fries. Which is fucking hilarious that's objectively hilarious i'm sorry that's goddamn funny it's failure that hasn't happened yet and then eats her french fry yeah give me that little girl because i'm starving i'm starving yeah i got i got problems somebody sued me for 200 million dollars you know what that's like how many houses i've lost does a boat count as a house because a woman sued me for twice the money I ever made.
Starting point is 02:27:45 It's amazing. Yeah, that's incredible. That'd be like if someone sued me for $40,000. I don't know. So, 2016, December of 2016, an Atlanta broker is sentenced to five years in prison for defrauding investors of almost $7 million. Yes. years in prison for defrauding investors of almost $7 million. Yes.
Starting point is 02:28:10 Federal prosecutors said Robert Gist, his old agent and guy that he invested money with, mailed false account statements to his clients to put on a facade that he was investing conservatively across their portfolios. More than 30 clients invested more than $6.8 million with him on this particular charge. His imprisonment will be followed by three years of supervised release he's also ordered to pay 6.8 million dollars in restitution and uh his former sports agent linked uh to latrell spreewell he was latrell spreewell's since from 97 on he was his agent so he bulked him out so you know he fucking stole one you know he got a new investing bullshit fucking jerk you know he fucking stole money. You know he got him to invest in bullshit. Fucking jerk off. You know he had him investing in
Starting point is 02:28:45 bullshit. What an asshole. What a fucking asshole. That happens to so many guys. Somebody stole, Rod, my friend Rod, somebody stole a bunch of his fucking money too. A financial advisor stole millions of dollars. They had to sue them to recoup it. It was fucking insane. Yeah, the guy blamed it on 9-11. He goes, oh, you know, I lied on 9-11 and tanked the economy. They were like, no.
Starting point is 02:29:01 And they found out that he was, it's crazy. So February 12th, 2017, this is two days after the tank the economy a lot they were like no and they found out that he was it's crazy so uh uh february 12th 2017 this is two days after the knicks banned charles oakley from the building yeah remember charles oakley is we'll do we'll do and we'll do a charles oakley episode uh anthony mason this was yeah last year so uh we'll do a oakley episode, too, because he's amazing. He's a mess. Oh, Jesus. Boy, is he a mess.
Starting point is 02:29:27 So two days after they kick one of the most popular Knicks ever out of Madison Square Garden forever, which the fans don't like, James Dolan, the team owner, who's a fucking twat asshole douchebag who's run the franchise into the fucking ground. You asshole. He's the Cablevision twat, too. Fuck you. Fuck your shitty cable vision twat too fuck you fuck your shitty cable sell the team i tell you from everyone in the state of new york and the surrounding areas sell the fucking nicks you cunt thank you jesus christ so jolin uh invites spreewell to a game yeah and sits courtside with him uh there uh i remember this yeah this was just two years ago this was yeah last year last two years two years from a month
Starting point is 02:30:12 from now yeah so 23 months ago uh trying to get himself in the good graces like i brought a guy back you guys like remember him remember him he has no he needs a house he needs a place to stay he's here for the free pretzels at halftime. He gets the he's here for the hotel room. We get him when he comes into town. Jesus Christ. We get him a West and he's thrilled. He so they asked Sprewell and he says quote when I left. I assume the Knicks he's talking about. I was not
Starting point is 02:30:35 happy. New York is like a second home for me. I love the fans here. The fans embraced me. There's no place like the garden to play in. I was very disappointed being traded but we had fun in minnesota i'm just happy to be back now it was very much appreciated and uh the new york post reports that spreewell had met with team representatives about returning for a game in new york when the knicks visited the bucks earlier in the season so he went over there to talk to him
Starting point is 02:30:59 because he lives in milwaukee and can't afford airfare airfare. And he's got to work on Tuesday. It was convenient. That's all it is. Also, that night, Sprewell received a video tribute. Other former Knicks attending the game also made it into the board, like Bernard King, who was nasty as fuck, and we've talked about. Yeah, a bad man. Yeah, buying Coke in a bad neighborhood and a Corvette at 2 in the morning.
Starting point is 02:31:22 Falling asleep. Kenny Walker, who had one of the best high-top fades in the history of basketball. I remember him. His hair was like kid-and-play level height. It was fucking impressive, and he wore gold chains during the dunk contest. Oh, no. I fucking loved him when I was 11, though. I thought he was cool as shit.
Starting point is 02:31:38 Gerald Wilkins and Bill Bradley also honored that night. February 13, 2007, he announces he's going to sign with Ice Cube's three-on-three league. 2017? 2017. Okay. Yeah, sorry. Did I say 2017? Oh, so he's in that shit now?
Starting point is 02:31:51 Well, we'll talk about it. Basically, they announced that day that Sprewell, J.R. Ryder, it's like a fucking Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, Earl Boykins, Brian Cook were the latest people to be drafted or to be signed and then they're going to go into a player draft pool to be drafted here.
Starting point is 02:32:11 Also already signed is Kenny Anderson, Smush Parker, who should have still been playing in the fucking league when this was going on if he wasn't useless, Jamario Moon,
Starting point is 02:32:19 who I believe is an ASU player, Ruben Patterson, another fucking one of our alumni. That's where we found out about this league, I believe, an ASU player. I don't know. Reuben Patterson, another fucking one of our alumni. That's where we found out about this league, I believe. And Etan Thomas.
Starting point is 02:32:31 And they said they'll have an April draft. Or they'll have a combine then, and then they'll have a draft. May 1st, 2017, Sprewell is ruled ineligible for the draft because he didn't complete any of the necessary medical or other documentation in time. Why would he do that? Because he's a fucking idiot. Jesus Christ, man. Well, you know why?
Starting point is 02:32:49 He's busy. Yeah. Because February 17, 2018, he's signing autographs at the Saratoga Stadium Sports Bar in New York. That's what he's doing. Yeah. He said, quote, well, it's definitely an appreciation for all the hard work I did put in when I was here with the Knicks. And like I said, out of all the other teams I played for, I had a lot of fun. But the New York fan base is like no other.
Starting point is 02:33:13 I don't think there's another team in the NBA that has a fan base quite like the Knicks do. Yeah, because we won't fucking go away no matter how much you try to drive us from the fucking building. And there's millions and millions of people there. That's the other thing. They are passionate. The biggest market in the fucking country. And there's millions and millions of people there. That's the other thing. They are passionate market in the fucking country. We look for shit to hate. We're almost as happy with a terrible team as a good one because then we can fucking complain about it and say what's wrong with every one of these assholes rather than we
Starting point is 02:33:35 don't want mediocrity. That's what we don't like. Can't get enough of Latrell Sprewell. I don't know how because we just got an ass full of them. How long that took to put together. You can go to amazon.com get a latrell spreewell new york knicks uh autographed 8x10 photo yeah it's pretty fucking cool i actually kind of want it 49.99 uh plus 4.99 shipping and handling also and this is cool as fucking shit an nba uh it's like a starting lineup figure but one of the ones where it's like
Starting point is 02:34:02 they have a little block of floor and it's kind of like a mcfarland like one of those yeah uh one of those he's dunking it's pretty goddamn cool he's got a white knicks jersey on here uh that is 8.99 plus 4.99 that's a deal that's a fucking deal i don't know why i didn't buy it here or hey follow him on twitter at spreewell underscore 15 it's got a a fucking underscore in his name. Of course he put his number in there. Or you can follow his daughter, who's a rapper named Busy Monroe right now. And I saw her video and I couldn't watch much of it. I can't watch teen girls rap. I don't know what the fuck to tell you. There's nothing left on this but gristle and fat.
Starting point is 02:34:36 That's it. And then smile. Yeah. We have reached the gristle and fat stage of Latrell Spreewell. That is Latrell Spreewell. I don't know how there could be any more. Wow. That is a goddamn crazy life that man has led.
Starting point is 02:34:49 Talk about an up and down. That's a fucking far fall down, though. To bounce in on the weekdays from $100 million. Probably for a Greyhound bus ride back to- Yeah, who the hell knows? Probably for a bar tab whenever he's in town. I don't know what the hell it is. And where's he living now?
Starting point is 02:35:04 Milwaukee. Still Milwaukee. That's his hometown. Yeah, that's depressing. His whole life is goddamn depressing at this point. But I don't know. He's surviving. What could have been, sir?
Starting point is 02:35:14 A lot. What could have been if you just saved some of your money? You'd just be happy right now. But that's Latrell Sprewell. And that's Crime and Sports. If you like it, you know what you can do about it. You can go on iTunes Apple podcast whatever the hell you want to call it and give
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Starting point is 02:39:42 you guys fucking make it for us. So thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much. And we have just found, by the way, a piece of information, quickly an update on Lestrell Sprewell already. He has changed his Twitter handle.
Starting point is 02:39:53 And what is it now, Jimmy? It is now at BallingSpree08. BallingSpree08. Is he verified? Is that definitely him? He definitely is verified. How many followers does he have? He has 1,400 followers. That's it?
Starting point is 02:40:04 That's it. I have more than 10 times as many followers as Lestrell has 1400 followers that's it that's it i have more than 10 times as many followers get your shit together latrell he's only following one person who is it is it donald no it's larry johnson oh wow another guy who's following grandmama who is not verified and has 12 000 followers and hell is going on nba he doesn't want to get verified because he owes a shitload of money that's's true. He's like, hey, it ain't me. It ain't me, goddammit. Well, Jimmy, what if- It ain't me that's going to be at the Fisk, oh, no, some center signing autographs probably
Starting point is 02:40:34 to not check by a child support. Probably. Yeah. He's not putting his autograph on a check is the problem there. That's all he's following. Jesus Christ. It's so weird. It's a bizarre man.
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