Crime in Sports - #17 - The Worst Man Alive? - The Hideousness of Mel Hall

Episode Date: May 24, 2016

This week, we bring you an extra large episode to look at a former MLB star, who spared no expense when it came to ball park transportation, Trump Tower apartments, night club security, a DJ'...s playlist, pet mountain lions, or Corvettes for the fathers of girls that caught his eye, from the stands. He fought both reporters, and teammates, while requesting to fight Mike Tyson. The atrocious crimes that finally put him away are just about as bad as it gets. He also had quite possibly the finest jheri curl in the history of organized sports.Leash up your mountain lion, tackle a reporter, and head to the prom with Mel Hall!!Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Tuesday!!Please subscribe, rate, and review!Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!Head to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Crime in Sports!For merchandise: crimeinsports.threadless.comCheck out James and Jimmie's other show: Small Town Murder Follow us on social media!Facebook: facebook.com/crimeinsportsInstagram: instagram.com/smalltownmurderTwitter: twitter.com/MurderSmall Contact the show: crimeinsports@gmail.comDonate on Patreon: patreon.com/crimeinsportsPayPal: paypal.me/crimeinsports See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:04:41 Let's get into this. Also too, all right, let's get into this. This here, tonight we have, wow, an interesting fella, let's say, Jimmy. He is not a nice man. No.
Starting point is 00:04:54 There's even an article that I read called Mel Hall is not a nice man. That's the name of the article. That's how much he's not a nice man. And we're getting to him at week 16. And it's Mel Hall, guys. Mel Hall. Not Gibson. No, no. Back to the major leagues uh major league baseball back
Starting point is 00:05:06 to the u.s for this one also if you didn't listen to last week evangelos goosis go back and check him out because man was that a trick story that was just wow that guy's a psychopath and it was crazy my wife even giggled about the vampire gigolo that's a vampire there's a character in it this is a real person a character like it's a book a real person. A character. Like, it's a book called The Vampire Gigolo. So, I mean, come on. That's what he calls himself. So, not Gooses. No, no, no. Another man that was...
Starting point is 00:05:30 The guy that he murdered. Met his demise. Right. Did not make his 201st birthday. So, Mel Hall. Yes. Holy shit, Jimmy. This guy.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I mean, we've had our scum. We've had our scum and we've had our scum. We just ran down a few of them. Go on. This is a worse guy than eddie johnson okay he's worse than eddie johnson tough to do because eddie johnson until his final crime where you're just like okay you are irredeemable you're a piece of shit lock throw away the key fuck him before that you he's kind of a guy who was a drug problem right he's a
Starting point is 00:06:02 smart talented guy and he does things where you're like, come on, Eddie. What are you? How stupid are you? But he's got a bad drug problem. Mel Hall cannot blame this on drugs. There's nothing to blame this on. He's just a piece of shit. He's just a bad seed.
Starting point is 00:06:15 He is a piece of shit. Everything he did. Mel is not a good guy. Guys, buckle up. Because this is a tale of just a complete idiocy and some horrible, horrible crime at the end that's just awful that we'll get to. And stick around. The whole thing's crazy. But let's get into it, guys.
Starting point is 00:06:31 What do you say? All right. Melvin Hall Jr. What a goddamn shocker, huh? Another junior. Guys. How is that possible? People, stop naming your kids after yourself.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I'm going to say it just once. You never know what they're going to turn out to be thing you never know no it's if you have a boy he could kill people or worse like mel hall it could happen if you have a girl you know what's the worst that could really she's probably not going to kill anyone although if she does kill someone it could be a huge news big news story because it'll be like her beauty pageant winning daughter something like that but melvin hall jr he's born in september september 16th 1960 in lions new york uh he grows up rural it's way rural this place where he grows up it is in montezuma new york which is 30 miles east of syracuse which if you don't know new york
Starting point is 00:07:19 uh the state of new york as you know what it looks like like a boot at the bottom and then like a almost like a backward Idaho that's smaller at the top that's a complicated way of saying it the little tip
Starting point is 00:07:32 at the bottom is New York City and there's the rest of it this is right smack in the middle of a meaty fatty part this is where
Starting point is 00:07:39 it snows feet at a time and all the towns are basically college towns and he grew up in Montezuma new york uh i guess the halls were one of the very few black families that lived in the area
Starting point is 00:07:50 which is not surprising for such a rural area uh his farm his father in every article was called a muck farmer which i don't know what i don't know if you farm muck or what is that like a i don't know while you talk i'm'm going to Google it. If he's bad at farming, I guess. I don't know what it is. That sounds like somebody that farms, like, manure. That's what it is, maybe. His father also briefly played in the Cincinnati Reds organization, so baseball talent is flowing through the family here. Mother worked in a factory.
Starting point is 00:08:21 He grew up poor, super poor poor as Mel Hall puts it let's do the earliest in their own words ever here Mel Hall talking about his poorness we were so poor we had ice for supper we spelled poor with one O because we ate the other one I signed my first contract
Starting point is 00:08:42 in dirt so that's how poor Mel mel hall oh my god we spelled poor with one oh because we ate the other one now we couldn't afford it like the old saying goes that's the funniest goddamn thing so muck farmer you're you're farming uh soil it's dried swamps it's where the soil is yeah yeah the soil is very fertile because it's just broken down at least eddie johnson's dad was picking fucking citrus and shit that people wanted to eat. This guy's not even producing anything. Goose's dad had a trade, for fuck's sake.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Yeah, this is terrible. This guy's just waiting for swamps to dry out and digging shit up. No surprise they were poor. He goes to Cayuga High School. Are you telling me muck isn't expensive? No, no, not muck. It's Port Byron, New York here. It's in Port Byron High School.
Starting point is 00:09:28 He played high school baseball, football, and basketball. So he's an athlete. And if you look at the guy, you can tell he's an athlete. Six foot? I mean, he's sculpted six foot, 185. And he had like... 58, 185. I'm a fucking piece of shit. Yeah, compared to him,
Starting point is 00:09:43 pretty much everybody is. He was just one of these real ripped, like he looked like he had two cantaloupes in his pants for an ass. Like he couldn't walk right because his ass was so weird. I'm fucking hard as shit right now. I bet you are, Jimmy. He was a sexy man. He had the finest jerry curl in all of sports. The finest.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Fucking jerry curl. It was a j Curl mullet of such proportions that, I mean, angels sung from the heavens when they saw this Jerry Curl mullet. The Jerry Curl for people overseas is the equivalent,
Starting point is 00:10:16 the black people's mullet. That's basically what it is. And he had a mullet. It was in the shape of a mullet. It's the most embarrassing haircut. It's a wet, curly, it's curly and wet. Yeah. Coming to America, that. That's what most embarrassing haircut. It's a wet, curly... It's curly and wet. Coming to America?
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yeah. Soul glow? That's what we're talking about here. And house party? He looked like soul glow. That's what he looked like, except without the mustache. So yeah, he's a great athlete. I mean, absolutely. Crushes it in high school. He's one of the best players
Starting point is 00:10:43 ever to come out of the central western New York area, apparently, in that central New York. All kinds of promise. Yeah, I mean, he's also got a few problems. In high school he did? A couple of problems. High school teammates said that he impregnated two girls by the time he was a senior in high school. So that's an issue. Mel likes the ladies and the girls and any female that he can encounter he wants it he
Starting point is 00:11:06 wants all fucking over so did he impregnate them or did he have yeah no he apparently impregnated these girls i don't know if he had it taken care of or they whatever the hell happened but uh he had found some icy steps in november in upstate new york we never know how many kids mel hall is fathered by the way the texas authorities when after everything comes down tried to piece together his lineage and his paternal you know pool of of muck yeah that is that he farmed himself like his dad and uh they said their best best guess estimate is about eight kids but they're not positive they said at least eight kids that they can figure out maybe more who the fuck knows as we hear this guy's exploits. He is fucking.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Steady fucking. He is drafted into the MLB out of high school. I mean, he's drafted. Wow, he didn't even have to go to college? No, no. He's drafted by the Cubs in the second round of the 78 draft. That's pretty impressive. He was a beast in high school.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I mean, you looked at him and went, wow, this is going to be somebody. So, I mean, he's not a Chad Curtis. He's not one of these guys. Not even a Lenny Dykstra. He's like the reverse Lenny Dykstra as a player. Dykstra drafted late, played way over his potential. This is a reverse situation. Drafted high, plays like shit.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Plays less than his potential. He plays for the Cubs first. He plays for 13 seasons in the MLB. We said his position. Say it again. He's like a left fielder, right fielder, outfielder of whatever platooning, whatever they need that day because he's not good enough to have his own position. We'll go through his baseball stats real quick and then kind of go through his timeline
Starting point is 00:12:38 because everything's going to kind of intersect. We'll just get the stats out of the way and his career, and then we'll go into some fun shit in his career too which is wow was he crazy and there's some amazing shit and i don't want to you know clab that with numbers so he's uh he's drafted by the cubs like i said he plays for the cubs makes his mlb debut on september 3rd 1981 at the age of 20 to me he cruised right through the minors that's. That's amazing. He doesn't play much 81, 82. 83 is his full rookie year, because you have to have a certain number of at-bats to be considered not a rookie the next year.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Oh, okay. You're a rookie every... You can play a bunch of years. You can play the whole day? You can play a bunch of years and always be a rookie until you have a certain amount of at-bats in a year. Oh, how about that? And then you're not a rookie anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:26 So, 83, he has a big year in 83. You know, decent. He's third in the National League Rookie of the Year voting. How about that? Which is great, behind Darryl Strawberry, number one. Who was number two? Craig McMurdy, an Atlanta pitcher with a career record of 28-42. Sounds like he didn't pan out.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Had a good year, the rookie year, and then it kind of went to shit. And he was like, I didn't get rookie of the year. Fuck it, I quit. You're not going to beat Darryl. No. Darryl was a monster. So he goes, he plays for the, he gets traded from Cleveland to the Yankees. This is pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:13:58 In 84, he gets traded with Joe Carter and Don Schultz. That Joe Carter that hit the game winning home run in the World Series from the Blue Jays. He's traded for George Frazier, Ron Hasse. God, if you remember those 80s. Ron Hasse. He was like a Dan Pasqua. It was Ron Hasse and Dan Pasqua in these shitty white socks. He has a forgettable name.
Starting point is 00:14:20 He was just a kind of doughy white guy. Just miserable. He kind of had a white Jerry Kerr looking thing, too. Carter is the one that hit the home run. Yeah, 92, Blue Jays. Off of against the Phillies that ruined Mitch Williams. Also involved in this deal, going to Cleveland, Rick Sutcliffe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:40 So Rick Sutcliffe was huge at that point. He ended up going to the Cubs. He ended up being a Cy Young Award winner for the Cubs. Sutcliffe is still on baseball tonight. Yeah, still a big deal. MLBTV or whatever the hell he's on. Still talking. Yeah, 89, he goes to the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:14:55 We'll get into why that happened. And then he ends up playing in Japan and in San Francisco. Gotcha. Made $6.3 million in his career. That's great. So pretty good for the 80s, 90s. That's fantastic. Career stat line, 276 average, 318 slugging,
Starting point is 00:15:10 134 homers, 620 ribbies, 1171 hits, 437 slugging. So I mean, decent. He had his moments. 86 is his best season. Hit 296, 18 homers. He played from 81 to 96? He had a 15 year career
Starting point is 00:15:25 well no because he was in Japan for like 4 of those years but he made more money in Japan than he did in the main he made another 4 to 5 million
Starting point is 00:15:32 in Japan holy shit you can tell you about 10 million in his whole career Mel Hall figured it out he figured it out his best year
Starting point is 00:15:40 like I said was 86 with the 18 homers 77 RBI he walks about half as much as he strikes out. He's one of those guys. Kind of a free swinger. A slugger. He's a slugger.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Yeah, he goes, like I said, 93. He gets tired of the Yankees. We'll get into that whole thing. Gets traded or ends up signing a contract with Japan. Nobody wanted him over here for Chiba Latte. And he's a beast over there.
Starting point is 00:16:06 It's 30 home runs his first year there. Yeah, I can imagine. Yeah, he's a monster. Six foot, 280 pound black, or 180 pound black guy crushing little Asians. Yeah, the ball's different there and the field's different too. It's a power friendly.
Starting point is 00:16:17 It's not coming at the velocity that it is from Americans. I've seen BK Young pitch. Motherfucker can't pitch for shit. Throw an 84. But then again, there's also plenty of others. Who knows? At 96, he comes back and gets 25 at-bats for the San Francisco Giants. Gets three hits.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Miserable. And I actually know a guy. 25 at-bats and three hits. I know a guy who played with him on that team. Really? He was on those 96 Giants. And he just said, what a fucking loon. He's one of the craziest son of a know a guy who played with him on that team. Really? He was on those 96 Giants and he just said, what a fucking loon. He's one of the
Starting point is 00:16:48 craziest son of a bitches he's ever played with. I remember asking him about him because I always thought he was an interesting guy growing up looking at him. He said he was crazy and they had to sneak him into Canada because he had a criminal record and he was just known as a general nutcase. They're smuggling players. When they played the Expos
Starting point is 00:17:04 they had to... They're smuggling to play the they played the expo they had to play the expo they were like mel's not allowed in canada so it's hard to get signed with a team when you're not allowed in one of the countries they play in you know what i'm saying that's so awesome they're midnight midnight expressing him into play baseball pretty much yeah yeah yeah he signed a two-year four million dollar contract for japan and then he's had one more year in Japan where he made a million bucks a year. That's great. Tried to come back in 2002 and 2003. I don't know what the frig he was thinking.
Starting point is 00:17:32 What are you thinking? Seven years later. Seven years later, and the things that he went through, too. Oh, boy. So he tries to come back with the Fort Worth Cats, the Springfield Ozark Mountain Ducks, which that's a historic organization top team there's the yankees there's the pittsburgh steelers those mountain dogs the boston celtics the la lakers and the springfield ozark mountain bucks those are the first storied franchises in sports and the
Starting point is 00:17:57 coastal bend aviators i want one of those jerseys or in corpus christi texas who would take up the whole front of the jersey to write all that yeah Yeah, it's almost as good as that shit league Jason Williams played in. He is just a character, man. He's such an asshole and such a character that he's so much fun. He's like a character from a major league movie. Just like, whoa, this guy's crazy. And then it gets not as fun anymore. We'll tell you when that happens and we won't need to tell you.
Starting point is 00:18:25 He once told a group of reporters that he had a brother at Attica Prison. No one knows if that's true or not, by the way. That's never been confirmed. No one even thought that. His brother was like a really good baseball player in high school in the same area. He said, quote,
Starting point is 00:18:40 he keeps asking me to come up and see him and I told him I'll see him when he gets out. So, real sentimental guy there with his brother. He just brings up this weird brother that nobody's ever heard of, and then he just throws that shit out. I'll see him whenever I see him. That's all about when you get out, pal. What about, how about you've had three hits and 25 at bats?
Starting point is 00:18:57 Let's talk about that. No, no, let me tell you about my brother. I got a brother in Attica. This was like in the 80s. He just brought it up. A bunch of reporters around. He's like, I got a brother in Attica. They're like, I guess this is news. They it up. A bunch of reporters around. He's like, I got a brother in Attica. They're like, I guess this is news.
Starting point is 00:19:07 They're like, what the fuck? I'm going to write this down. Everybody get the recorder. He named his glove Lucille, like fucking B.B. King's guitar. He's got a cherry Mustang in the garage. He likes nicknames. Yeah, he likes nicknames because he nicknamed himself. Again, self-nicknaming.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Yeah. So far, our two self-nicknames are the Gorilla Pimp and the Vampire Gigolo. This isn't going to go well. This isn't going to be as good. He nicknamed himself, quote, the Gunfighter. Not much of an imagination out of him there. He's not a bright guy, Mel Hall, as we'll see. This is when he was with the Indians because he was the self-proclaimed enforcer of the team during fights.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Like baseball fights are happening all the time. That once a year when they all came out. He's the enforcer. He's the one. He's praying for somebody to charge Robin Yount. Please. He wore multiple pairs of batting gloves in his back pocket with the fingers out. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:20:01 To quote, wave bye-bye to baseballs after a home run. What, are you going to moon the fuck? What, are you going to moon the ball? It's in your back pocket, you fuck. driving with Indians traveling secretary Mike Segee. And Hall was seriously injured in 1985, ruined his season. He only played 23 games in 1985. He missed the rest of the year. He had, like, broken collarbone, missed a pelvis. He was all fucked up. Those 1985 cars aren't near as strong as they are now.
Starting point is 00:20:38 No, no. Well, they were stronger. That's the problem. Segee was driving. This was in 1985. And repeat that in mind because that's going to come back in a fun way here. Because by the time he gets to 1987, he's sued for child support by his ex-wife at this point. He also sues, his insurance company sues Segui, the team's traveling secretary, for the car accident in 85.
Starting point is 00:21:00 So there's a reporter named Ray Stubblebine who writes an article about this in the sunday paper in 87 and then that afternoon he comes into the clubhouse trying to pay the beat report for the team comes into the clubhouse day of the article and he's told by the manager pat corrales you better get out of here there's a bounty on your head the enforcer the gunslinger's coming for gunslinger's coming he's got his batting gloves hanging out of his pocket. Shit's about to go down. So this guy, this poor son of a bitch here, this guy goes to leave the clubhouse. He's like, well, I'm out of here.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And Mel Hall's a psychopath. Obviously, I'm going to leave. Just as he's leaving, Mel Hall enters. Oh, shit. Perfect timing. Hall goes on a curse-filled tirade on the guy. He said, for what seemed like a half hour, doesn't know how long it was, he said he just took it and took it and took it finally when he tried to interject stubble
Starting point is 00:21:48 stubble bind tries to interject he said next thing i know i knew i was in the bottom of a locker with mel hall on top of me and otis nixon trying to pull him off of me so he just fucking attacks this guy and otis nixon who looks like an alien with no skin isn't he a shortstop he's a Texas guy, and Otis Nixon, who looks like an alien with no skin. Isn't he a shortstop? He's a tiny guy? He looks like somebody took a normal human being, stuck a turkey baster in him, and sucked all the air out. He's the scariest looking person. Hilarious. He looks like he died three days ago. Maybe he was a first baster. He's an outfielder.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Is he an outfielder? He's a little skinny outfielder. He played for the Braves. He played for the A's too, right? I don't remember if he played for the A's, but he played for those really good Braves teams in the early 90s and things like that. He was one of those guys. Amazing rotation of business.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Exactly, exactly. After the game, apparently, Mel Hall laughed about it to the other reporters, acted like it was no big deal. Yeah, I would too. You know, I attacked the reporter. That's normal. The beat reporter for the fucking, you know, that's a normal thing to do. Stubblebind's in a room icing himself right now.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Another reporter said, quote, he, quote, oozed a casual recklessness. That's a good description of it. He does. A writer wrote that? A writer wrote that. It is a beautiful, oozed. Oozed a casual recklessness. Casual recklessness.
Starting point is 00:23:04 In 1989, here's where, wow, we start to see how... It goes from casual to just fucking reckless. No, it's just stupid. This is just stupid. This isn't even criminal. This is just... Just reckless. Just life stupid here.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Okay. 1989, they're in Tucson. Cleveland used to train in Tucson, if you guys remember, in Major League in the beginning of it when everyone's coming to camp they were at high corbett field in tucson that's where they are here uh there's a hotel that all the team wives and family are staying at and everything he gets his wife and his girlfriend both rooms in the same hotel what could go wrong right this is normal that's what you do. I mean, that's not even, if you're going to be a scumbag and be a player or whatever,
Starting point is 00:23:48 that's one thing, but this isn't even trying. Didn't the running back from the Bears, what was his name, the real fucking... Walter Payton. Walter Payton. I believe at his Hall of Fame acceptance speech,
Starting point is 00:23:59 he had his wife and his fucking gumara sitting right next to each other. Hey, you know what? But he's not Walter Payton, is my point. Walter Payton is a beautiful man. He's a smooth, professional. But this motherfucker isn't Walter Payton. You don't get to just rub it in your wife's face.
Starting point is 00:24:15 He's like the third greatest football player in the history of all time. This guy's a douchebag and a jerk-off. This is Mel Hall. This guy is a platoon outfielder who is fighting for time with Jesse Barfield. Who's putting his fucking girlfriend up in 112
Starting point is 00:24:30 and his wife's in 111. So what ends up happening is they run into each other down at the pool. Yeah. They get into a huge brawl with each other. Have a big physical altercation
Starting point is 00:24:40 right in front of the general manager's granddaughter. Imagine these two. New words. Oh, they're pulling each other's granddaughter. Teaching her all kinds of new words. Oh, they're pulling each other's hair. You trifling bitch. There's a fucking weave caught in the pool filter. This place is a disaster.
Starting point is 00:24:53 And she's asking Grandpa, what does trifling mean? I picture a little girl with pigtails and a big lollipop, just scared shitless. With a couple of freckles on each cheek. She can't get out of the locked gate, and she's shaking it, going, Grandpa, Grandpa, Mel Hall's bitches are miscarrying me. I just wanted a hot dog and thyme candy. God, make it stop.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Unsurprisingly, a few days later, March 19th, he's traded to the Yankees. Have a good one, Mel Hall. What do you expect? Take your bitches to New York. Unreal. That's awesome. He's traded for Joel Skinner and Turner Ward. God, I don't remember Turner Ward.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Joel Skinner sucked my dick. He was so lousy. That's how much they don't give a fuck about him and his bitches. He was so bad, yeah. We'll take anything. You got anything? We'll take it. When he gets to New York, I don't know if, like,
Starting point is 00:25:40 because he made a little more money in New York because of his contract. He was in a little longer in the league. And I don't know if it was the money, made a little more money in New York because his contract, he was in a little longer in the league. And I don't know if it was the money, if he was, like, in New York, if that just let the crazy out of the box. Or if, like, it's the media in New York paid attention more than the media in Cleveland where as long as he wasn't tackling you into a locker, you're going to be pretty cool about his weirdness. I'll bet it's the sprinkling of both. It could be everything. But he loses his shit when he goes to New York. He starts acting like a maniac. He's a product of his environment, and it's reported on. I think that's what
Starting point is 00:26:11 it is. It really goes wackadoo here. This is when shit starts to get nuts. He, at one point here, says he wants to fight Mike Tyson. He wants to fight Mike Tyson. At this point, your biggest bout is Mr. Stubblefield. Yeah, Stubblebine. That's your biggest fight to date. Mike Tyson. Yeah, he's in good shape. Mike Tyson was the toughest man on earth at this point.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Right now, after everything that's happened, and if there was a Patreon page to give Mike Tyson money to beat the shit out of Mel Hall and we could all watch it, we would all donate money. Absolutely. I would pay to watch Mike to beat the shit out of Mel Hall and we could all watch it. We would all donate money. I would pay to watch Mike Tyson beat the shit out of Mel Hall at this current time. I'd pay money to see Mike Tyson beat the shit out of anybody. But he was confident. He thought he could beat Tyson. He said, quote, when God made my body, he made something good. Oh boy. In their own words, buddy, right there. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:27:01 In their own words, buddy. Right there. Wow. That's what he thought of himself. He gets into an altercation. Let's just say this. If God did make something good, don't put it on the line in the ring with the toughest man on earth. Don't have Mike Tyson break it into 600 pieces. When God made this, he made something great.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I'm going to go ruin it against Mike Tyson. Have you seen a picture of Mitch Green? Guys, look up a picture of Mitch Green Tyson. Just look that up. It looks like somebody hit somebody with a semi-truck, and then they took a picture of him real quick, and that was just Mike Tyson punching the guy one time. You don't fight Mike Tyson.
Starting point is 00:27:40 It's insane. He's a bad man. He's a bad man. Mel Hall's a terrible man, but he's not bad in that sense. He's an idiot. On the field, too, he hits silly. He's one of these guys that's just not a smart hitter. He's a fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:27:55 He's a really free swinger. Like I said, walks half as much as he strikes out. I remember just being so frustrated with him. He had this cool stance where he kind of leaned back and he had his back kind of wagging and he kind of looked. He looked, when you saw him, you go, wow, I bet that guy's the best hitter in the league. If you never saw baseball, you go, whoa, I bet he's,
Starting point is 00:28:14 no, he looks much, he looks like on point. You go, wow, I bet this guy's great. And then he hits 240. He's just one of these guys with 13 home runs and 68 RBI because that's kind of just what he did. His teammates called him Sluggo to pick on him in New York. I guess he just was swinging at everything. He starts being a real dick here.
Starting point is 00:28:32 He starts in with Bernie Williams. If you know who Bernie Williams is, Bernie Williams is an all-time great Yankee. Terrific switch hitting. One of the best switch hitters of all time. For rings, I mean, he was, I think he is still the only man and was the first man in a major league history to win a batting title, gold glove, and World Series ring in the same year, 98. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:28:55 Only man up until, I knew he still was up until at least five years ago. I don't know if maybe somebody did it in the last five years. So Bernie's a great Yankee, but at this point he's a rookie. He comes up, wouldn't let him talk. Mel Hall, Bernie was not allowed to talk. Mel Hall, every time Bernie Williams would open his mouth, he would say, shut up, zero, because he said he meant nothing to the team because he was a rookie.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Because basically he was an outfielder that was then pushing another outfielder into another position and pushing Mel Hall out to fucking Japan. And he knew that. So he didn't like him. And every time Bernieernie would try to talk he'd just keep chanting zero zero wow total dick he taped mr zero over his name over his locker in the clubhouse just hazing him and and bernie williams if you ever seen an interview with him or anything he's a really knight he's like always smiling he plays jazz guitar yeah he wears like thin glasses and plays jazz guitar he's just a real laid-back dude he's just not a guy that you really would mess with um
Starting point is 00:29:50 steinbrenner got mad at him because his jerry curls were so long mel hall which is great because this was a time when don mattingly and steinbrenner had a big beef over mattingly's mullet and uh because the boys and boys and pinstripes are clean cut. You shave your face and you cut your hair. For some reason, the jerry curl, I don't know if he put a little extra applicator, or a little less, had it tightened up so it was a little shorter. Deion Sanders was able to have his too, right? Then Deion Sanders is going to come back also. Because Deion Sanders is the one guy who loves Mel Hall, by the way.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Loves him. Loves him. Deion Sanders, Mel Hall is godfather to one of deon sanders kids fucker i shit you not that's amazing prime time he said please mel hall bring your jerry carl and yeah unbelievable unbelievable godfather sand his children. If you ever thought Deion Sanders made good decisions. He looked up to Mel Hall. Everybody said it because he was a real flashy guy, Mel Hall. We'll get into some of his flash because he's a crazy son of a bitch. This is the best here because I love Don Mattingly.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Apparently Don Mattingly finally snapped on him and told him to shut the fuck up for picking on Bernie Williams. He had nothing to say to Mattingly. He could probably rip Mattingly apart. Just Mattingly had respect. You didn't talk back to him. Plus, if you talk back to Mattingly. He could probably rip Mattingly apart. It's just Mattingly had respect. You didn't talk back to him. Plus, if you talk back to Mattingly, that's his team. Yeah, that's Donnie Baseball.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Your ass is on the street. Yeah, you don't fuck around with Donnie Baseball. So he knew that. He knew better. While he was injured with a hamstring injury, Mel Hall gets into
Starting point is 00:31:18 what is described as a violent clubhouse wrestling match with Ricky Henderson. What the fuck? Who fights Ricky Henderson? He's an alien space cadet person. Battle of curls oh my god juice was flying everywhere in constant greasy fight incomprehensible phrases are flying all around everyone's talking in the third word in the third person they're all just you know mel hall says you're gonna do this
Starting point is 00:31:41 ricky henderson don't think so and then they started tackling each other over the benches and shit. That's awesome. Otis Nixon had to pull him off of him. It was terrible. So that made me laugh a lot. And Sanders just in the corner going, go, Mel, go. Absolutely. That's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:31:57 It's so great. If you've ever seen Mel Hall's home run trot, holy shit. It's the slowest home run trot in the history of the world. Just like rubbing it in. His home run trot was once clocked at 33 seconds. Get the fuck out of town. 33 seconds to get around the goddamn bases. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Can you imagine that? It was ridiculous. He just basically took the seventh inning stretch to run the bases. But he would like kind of shr, like, well, all right. And he'd just do this trot where it's so – I remember as a kid out in the yard where you'd go through – I'd be playing wiffle ball, and I'd go through the whole lineup, being the Yankees lineup.
Starting point is 00:32:35 It would be like Steve Sachs, and then this guy, that guy, and then Mel Hall. And if you hit a home run with Mel Hall, you'd do the Mel Hall home run trot where you just kind of slowly get around the bases. Go ahead and sing the national anthem because this is going to take a while he would call teammate Steve Sachs a cracker to get a rise out of him which I think is fucking great Steve Sachs is a cracker
Starting point is 00:32:56 if you've ever seen I love Steve Sachs, he's a cracker Steve Sachs says quote Mel flirted with danger he was always on the edge he liked the action he liked to instigate there were times when he was really fun to be around he just had a great big laugh but you just didn't know it was on the other side of the curtain be careful don't get too close to him don't get too close uh he was said to have 15 cars wow 15 cars but yet always took a limo to the game what the for some reason
Starting point is 00:33:27 because he's a jerk off uh he bought he lived in trump tower on the same floor as donald trump oh my god right down the hall from donald trump uh that right there should disqualify donald as as a fucking president there's more with him it's gonna come back are you shitting me wait till you hear with the dinner that don Donald Trump had at one point. Oh, my God. If you were considering, I don't know what your politics are, to be honest with you, I don't give a fuck. As long as your politics are that stupid athlete criminals are funny, we're fucking friends.
Starting point is 00:33:55 But if you were going to vote for Donald Trump, you might not after you hear this. We'll put it this way, because he did something very funny. One of Mel Hall's friends said that he would immediately spend his paychecks, said he would literally take linen sacks full of cash out from the bank over his shoulder, quote, like in the movies. Like he robbed the joint. With like a dollar sign on it. Picture him walking.
Starting point is 00:34:16 He would like cash his paycheck from the Yankees. He's the black monopoly guy. Yeah, like $130,000 on a paycheck. He's like, I'd like it in 20s. And those sacks back there. Yeah, yeah, like $130,000 on a paycheck. He's like, I'd like it in 20s. And those sacks back there. Yeah, yeah, you know, the drawstring job. A couple of roll of fives. Wow, unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:34:31 He had two German shepherds that he hired a German trainer to teach attack commands to. Oh, Christ. He's one of those assholes. Gotta be authentic. That wasn't enough for him. He had the two German shepherds that would attack on command. He's like, all right, that's cool, cool but i need more that's not exotic enough i'm gonna get two mountain lion cubs oh to live in my apartment in trump tower fuck in midtown fucking manhattan
Starting point is 00:34:56 what an asshole he would walk around the city with them with mountain lions on a fucking with mountain lion cubs he once brought the lions to the yankee stadium clubhouse oh my god what is it showing fucking tell day hey guys how you doing i brought in this oh well i got lion cubs wait till you meet sig freaking roy what a fucking lunatic uh finally the mountain lions were confiscated from god and uh he was fined like over a hundred thousand dollars by the authorities let me go to the bank his quote when asked about it by a reporter i'm thinking about getting myself a grizzly bear jesus christ he doesn't get it no no hall you're gonna find me he's a fucking
Starting point is 00:35:36 mexican drug lord he doesn't get it no he just doesn't fucking get it uh and this is all he's dmx also brought a gun into the Yankee clubhouse. Surprise. Why? Why not? He's taking a limo to the stadium, getting right out, going in. There's security guards everywhere. What does he need a goddamn gun for in the clubhouse?
Starting point is 00:35:56 He brought two fucking Cubs in. Those are two loaded guns themselves. Yeah, what did he think? Fucking Scott Sanderson was going to chinlock him? What was wrong with him? Like, Andy Hawkins is going to attack me. These were the worst Yankee teams, by the way, guys. These were the teams I remember watching, like, these long summers.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Yeah. Where I would just sit there and watch these Yankee games. And they were in last place, second to last place. They were so bad. I remember Andy Hawkins in Comiskey Field. I believe it was Comiskey Park. Andy Hawkins pitched a no-hitter and lost 4-1. That's how fucking lousy they were.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Like Jim Layritz out in left field dropping fly balls. A disaster. They were so, so bad. It was Don Mattingly, like, nursing injuries and trying to play well and a bunch of Mel Halls. Steve Balboni was in there. Steve Balboni looks like the time to make the donuts guy on HGH
Starting point is 00:36:47 he's just this bald, looks like a 50 year old big fat bald Italian guy that would make a really good crispy saucy pizza for you a great flaky crust a real nice pie, but not a fucking first baseman or a designated hitter reportedly once had
Starting point is 00:37:04 17 motorcycles repossessed what the fuck he's got why does he have 17 motorcycles who buys 17 motorcycles a and then he goes i don't need them fuck i'm not gonna pay for them yeah i just wanted to have you guys take them back um let's see here an unnamed teammate uh said that this is my by the way my favorite goddamn quote in the world. Unnamed teammate said Mel's weird. I mean a lot of guys in baseball are weird but Mel's weird weird.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Sounds like it. 17 motorcycles two cats. Two giant fucking illegal cats. And he wants a grizzly bear. And Mel described all of these actions to a reporter when someone was asking asking about it as quote me being mel hall fuck yeah just just me being mel hall that's how mel hall rolls see third
Starting point is 00:37:51 person him and ricky henderson together imagine how much third person be thrown around holy balls he would go to the china club in new york city and uh,400 a night bodyguard. Wow. This particular bodyguard, Jimmy McMillan, who you might remember from a few years ago as the rent's too damn high guy. Remember the guy during the elections? Oh my God, are you serious? Rent's too damn high. That's him?
Starting point is 00:38:18 They'd ask him, like, what do you think about, you know, intricate policy questions? He'd go, the rent's too damn high. Wow, that's him. He would hire this guy for 1400 a night 1400 bucks a night to go with him who gives a shit about the rent when you're making that kind of money yeah uh this was this guy ran for mayor and governor of new york all right yeah he was out there i mean he was a famous like a he was a fucking meme for a long time and he was out there uh this guy mcmillan says that hall would quote get women out of the club and want to fuck them
Starting point is 00:38:44 in the car awesome so he would go into the club and want to fuck them in the car. Awesome. So he would go in the club. He said Hall would give McMillan 300 bucks to give to the DJ to get the DJ to play, quote, songs he could get up close to the women and grind on them. Something I can rub my boner to. Something I can rub my boner on. McMillan said he would give the DJ 10 bucks and keep the rest for himself.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Fuck you, Mel Hall. How great is that? Oh,cmillan said he would give the dj 10 bucks and keep the rest for himself fuck you mel hall how great is that oh mcmillan's the best that guy's awesome he said mel hall loves sex sex is what drove him that's what mcmillan said i'm saying it in a way he said the rent's too damn high mel hall loves sex it's drove him the the rent for the sex is too damn high he should have called his driver sex because it drove him. Oh, my God. He said he was a young guy who made a lot of money real fast and wanted to buy his way through life. Yeah, no doubt. That's the way he described him.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I'm going to guess that at the end of this he's broke, but don't tell me. What's going on? Let's see here. He is spending like a motherfucker. There's some spending that's been going on through what I'm talking about that no one else even knows about. Nobody even knows about. Except for a particular family that we're going to get into momentarily.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Fantastic. In a moment. Let's see here. Buck Showalter, the old N.P. manager again, said that basically they got tired of the Bernie Williams thing, him bullying around Bernie Williams. He was a big prospect for them. They're like, don't ruin this guy psychologically.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Bernie kind of matters to us. He matters in our future. And he said, quote, Mel was basically bullying Bernie and we put an end to it, which was Mattingly. Then, apparently, there was an old-timers day game at Yankee Stadium. If you guys don't know, if you're not Yankee fans, whatever, a lot of people hate the Yankees. But if you grew up a Yankee fan. Like Mudcat. Old-timers day is a big deal at Yankee Stadium. That, a lot of people hate the Yankees, but if you grew up a Yankee fan... Like Mudcat? Old-timers day is a big deal at Yankee Stadium.
Starting point is 00:40:28 That's a big deal. We have a lot of reverence for our old stars, you know what I mean? Billy Martin used to come out when guys like that would come out. Phil Rizzuto, you show goddamn respect for these guys. Elston Howard came out of the goddamn dugout, you show respect for him. You take your fucking hat off. You take your goddamn hat
Starting point is 00:40:44 off. Apparently, Mel Hall trots out on the field during that, leans over to Buck Showalter and says, who are these old fucking guys? Buck said, quote, that's when I knew he had to go. I was like, that's beautiful. Goodbye, asshole. Who are these old fucking guys? So that's not a bad thing.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Now, we're going to get into this next section of the story. And we're going to go back to 1989 when he just gets to the Yankees. Gotcha. That's the year he was traded to the Yankees. A lot of this comes from an article. There's a few articles, but a lot of these really good details came out of an article called, quote, The Many Crimes of Mel Hall. The subtitle is, he was a flamboyant player, a charismatic coach, and a sexual predator.
Starting point is 00:41:25 That's a guy named Greg Handler. Those don't go together. No. They do. It's a bad cocktail at that point. One of these things is not like the other. That's fucking great. Not the three best things you want to put together.
Starting point is 00:41:38 This is like the Steve Durbano never on a Sunday drink that had, what was it? Tequila, Kahlua, Grand Marnier. You don't even have to label anything else. You put fucking tequila and fucking Kahlua together. It's over. Tequila, Kahlua, Grand Marnier, milk, and cola. Oh, Christ. This is a worse
Starting point is 00:41:58 cocktail. Read those again. A flamboyant player, a charismatic coach, and a sexual predator. Pass the Grand Marnier. Fuck it. i'd rather have that guy can i have more milk please can you give me the spoiled one that creamer it's been sitting on the diner counter for about three and a half hours throw that in there i don't give a shit at this point uh so let's get this started predator he is playing uh for the yankees now also also that's when he went to japan the yankees didn't resign and apparently no one else in the league wanted him and he the more money he was make two million a year was more than he was going to make in the states
Starting point is 00:42:32 so he goes to japan before all this happens we go to this whole thing starts on june 11th 1989 okay it's a friday night game yeah yankee stadium i've been to these friday night games are great the old stadium. This was in 89. In the house that Ruth built. The dregs of the Yankees, too. This was bad times for the Yankees. The place was half empty.
Starting point is 00:42:54 It was shit. I mean, Dave Winfield had left, even. It was just Mattingly and a bunch of scum. There was a scalper out front pissed because he can't sell his tickets. Oh, there's no scalpers. A scalper would actually take your scalp in the South Bronx back then. 89 in the South Bronx's no scalpers. A scalper would actually take your scalp in the South Bronx back then. 89 in the South Bronx was no fucking joke.
Starting point is 00:43:08 This wasn't like, you know, now where I'm sure there's cupcake shops and everything else. This was like, you know, stay in a pack
Starting point is 00:43:15 when you're going to your car. This is one that was like no radio taped on windows so they wouldn't break into cars. You would do that when it was insane. Yeah, no radio.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Take your radio out and fucking take it with the sign on your window. There's a group on the right field line, seated on the right field line in the first row. It is a group of young ladies
Starting point is 00:43:35 and the father taking a group of young ladies, his daughter, and a bunch of her friends. Hell yeah. One of her friends is a girl that, through this story,
Starting point is 00:43:42 we're going to call Jennifer Diaz. Oh, no. Not her real name. She's a big deal in this story we're going to call Jennifer Diaz. Oh, no. Not her real name. She's a big deal in this story. This poor Jennifer Diaz, bro. Her family might be worse than Mel Hall, actually. That's how shitty this whole story is.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Shitty. And this is the worst father in the history of the world. There's fathers that have molested their kids, but this guy's worse. I'm telling you. Fuck this guy, this guy okay okay so they're there um every time mel hall would jog out he's playing right field goddamn son of a bitch why'd they put him in right field that night why couldn't one of them parade of yankee managers that was going because we'd have three a year in the late 80s why not put him in left it would have saved us a lot of trouble, this whole family here. Every time he would jog out, the girls would yell
Starting point is 00:44:28 and scream and yell, can we have a ball? Can we have a ball? And I guess he was... I got two of them, girl. He was playing a little game with them where he would act like
Starting point is 00:44:36 he was tossing it to them but then he wouldn't and he would smile. Oh, what a dick. He would smile coyly and run back and be like, you want the ball? You want the ball?
Starting point is 00:44:43 And then he'd run away. It was like charismatic and flamboyant nature. Exactly. And that's what it was, his playfulness. And he wasn't aloof, they said, like a lot of the other guys where they were just ignoring you. He's a fucking sexual predator. He's a sexual predator, which makes him friendly, oddly enough.
Starting point is 00:44:57 So afterwards, they leave. You know, they never got a ball. Right. So the girl's father, not this Jennifer Diaz, not her father, the friend's father said, well, you know, they never got a ball. Right. So the girl's father, not this Jennifer Diaz, not her father, the friend's father said, well, you know what you should do?
Starting point is 00:45:09 You guys should write him a letter. Just write a letter, Mel Hall, go to Yankee Stadium, say, we're the guys, we're the girls that were on the side, you never gave us a ball,
Starting point is 00:45:15 can you send us an autographed ball? Who knows, maybe he'll send you one. So she said, yeah, what the hell, right? Sure.
Starting point is 00:45:20 They're sitting around in the library at school. Show them your tits. Literally like two weeks later at the library at school studying. She's so young. We should get the, we should, you know, yeah, she's 15 years old. Oh, my God. She's 15 years old. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:45:32 By the way. Okay, yeah, that's the thing here. We should write Mel Hall a letter. Let's write him something. They write him a letter. They send it off. They forget about it. You know, he's not going to write back.
Starting point is 00:45:40 They just address it. Yankee Stadium, Mel Hall. Send it off. Zing it out. South Bronx. There you go. 13 Hall. Send it off. Zing it out. South Bronx. There you go. 13 cents. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Soon after the letter, very soon, like days after the letter is sent off. Like desperately soon. A phone call comes to this young lady's house. What the fuck? From a person claiming to be Mel Hall. He said that he noticed her in the stands. He knew who she was, and he wanted to get to know her better he invited her and her family to the next yankee game says he he gets lots of mail and
Starting point is 00:46:12 he rarely opens it so this must be destiny what that's what he tells her uh she didn't believe him that it was mel hall yeah she was like get the fuck out she thought it was her friends but she had told her friends that she sent mel hall a letter so she she's like, this is one of my friends messing with me. She had just gotten back from the movies with one of her guy friends. Oh, she's a skeptical 15-year-old? I like her. Yeah, she's like, my friends are picking on me. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:32 So she's like, no, never mind. So anyway, that goes. And apparently this goes on for like two hours. He would call and go, no, really, it's Mel Hall. And she'd be like, seriously, who is it? And he's like, it's fucking Mel Hall. I want to know you better. It's destiny.
Starting point is 00:46:45 You know, I want to meet your daddy. You know what I mean? Like, that's who is it? And he's like, it's fucking Mel Hall. I want to know you better. It's destiny. You know, I want to meet your daddy. You know what I mean? Like, that's what he's saying. And she's like, get out of here. Click, click. Finally, she tells her dad about this shit. And he's like, it's got to be a trick. You're smart not being gullible because the game has already started.
Starting point is 00:47:01 And he's in the lineup tonight. So there's no way he's calling you. He said, actually,'m dh'ing tonight so i have a lot of time in between innings calling her from the fucking dugout house he's in the clubhouse he's going in the clubhouse between no wonder why we suck so fucking bad no wonder why the yankees suck so goddamn bad running for fucking steve balboni and andy hawkins and this fucking guy's house calls he's trying to pick calls teenagers in the fucking clubhouse don't you go work on your swing you dipshit you two fucking 60 hitting asshole go take some cuts in the cage you got seven year old
Starting point is 00:47:36 james at home going crazy throwing popcorn on tv i'm losing my goddamn mind over here my blood pressure's through the roof and I'm nine. This asshole's trying to pick up teenagers. You're crying into a Yankees jersey and this fuckface is trying to get laid. Oh, my God. That's awesome. I was such, oh, man, this Childhood James is fucking living right now.
Starting point is 00:47:58 You have no idea. Childhood James is screaming at a TV in Poughkeepsie. Oh, absolutely. I'm in Wappingers Falls going, you son of a bitch. Why? So, yeah, he said it is him. They were still skeptical.
Starting point is 00:48:12 It was like, wow, this guy's really good. He's a good scammer. He said he would prove it. By next at bat, he will tap on the plate three times. What the fuck? To signal that. Who is he, Jeff Hornacek? This is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Is it Carol Burnett over here he's gonna give her fucking he's he's hey ma yeah this is fucking ridiculous so this is how stupid these people are nothing signals to a bitch through tvs the whole family gathers around the tv to see this 28 year old professional athlete send a signal to their teenage daughter holy shit at this point I would be hiring a hitman yeah there'd be someone going to kill him for calling the police next time he called I'd be like hey listen here
Starting point is 00:48:54 motherfucker I swear to god I will wrestle you down like Ricky Henderson don't think I won't Mr. Zero I heard about that so the whole family gathers around the first pitch he doesn't do anything they're all like ah ha ha Jennifer gathers around. The first pitch, he doesn't do anything. They're all like, ah, Jennifer, you're a douchebag. He didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Second pitch, he taps on the plate three times and points the bat at the TV camera just to make sure. What the fuck? Dude, that's like, who does that? Wowza. Just so everybody knows, James is wearing a Yankees hat while we tape this. Yeah. I fucking love the Yankees. What do you want from me?
Starting point is 00:49:25 I loved them growing up. But still, I will pick on them to death. I don't care. Don Mattingly's off limits. Well, we talk about a child molester. Off limits. You can talk about anyone.
Starting point is 00:49:34 You can't talk about Don Mattingly. Daryl Strawberry. I don't care about him. Really? He's a Met first. I like Daryl Strawberry, but he's not mine. He's a Met.
Starting point is 00:49:42 You can't talk about Don Mattingly. You can't talk about Joe DiMaggio. Or Lou Gehrig. Anyone else? Feel free. This one's a drunk. This one's a... Talk about the first skinny superstar in the history of this fucking country ever in Joe DiMaggio.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Because he broke... Forget about it. Never mind. Who did Ty Cobb play for? Tigers. Alright. Tigers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:02 But not... Because he's a racist. He's a racist. DiMaggio is a wonderful person. There's some... Never mind. There's some great articles. DiM. Tigers. Yeah. Because he's a racist. He's a racist. DiMaggio was a wonderful person. There's some, never mind. There's some great articles. DiMaggio fucked Marilyn Monroe. That guy's an awesome man.
Starting point is 00:50:12 He just put up with a lot of shit. A lot of shit. If you're an Italian guy out there and you don't know the history of what Joe DiMaggio went through, it was a lot of shit. So go back and look it up. All right. This poor son of a bitch. Okay, go on.
Starting point is 00:50:24 So this poor girl, right? girl right points at the tv he then after the game he talks calls the house and talks to jennifer's mom okay for hours it's called grooming he grooms the whole family including the father the grandfather he's everybody uh he's calling her mother by the end of the call that's how good of a scammer this is. Jennifer says that Hall had the ability to manipulate and tell people what they want to hear. Sounds like it. And it's true. He said he told the mom that despite his fame and wealth, he felt overwhelmed and alone in New York and was in need of a family.
Starting point is 00:50:58 That's what he told her. He told her sexual predator. Sexual predator. I swear to God, I think he was fucking the father the mother the little brother burying all that male dick in everybody there was like an aunt who was like 300 pounds
Starting point is 00:51:10 and has 14 cats he was giving her the dick too I swear to God this guy was just so he invites the whole family to a Yankee game
Starting point is 00:51:17 the next day okay they all go limo to the house to pick them up always limos to the games okay
Starting point is 00:51:24 limo comes and picks them up uh they arrive he's got an autograph ball for her like she asked for box seats for the whole family yankee jackets remember like the satin snap up jackets yankee jackets blue and white cuff yep yep exactly one of those bad boys like the coaches wore. One of those. Father tells him, hey, you know my daughter's 15, right? As the only, this is the only normal action that anyone in this family takes. Don't fuck her. By the way, you're aware she's 15, correct?
Starting point is 00:52:00 Mel Hall said, ha ha ha, keep drinking your milk, kid. And they all laughed. What the fuck? That was that. Problem diffused. No problem. Yeah yeah he made a joke about it well she'll get bigger someday or whatever and they all said nice jacket thanks mel these are nice snaps these sleeves are really nice ridiculous kid i'm gonna try to break your hip later drink your yeah well you'll see what the family gets out of this shit too uh so hall
Starting point is 00:52:21 the next day it's a sunday afternoon game Next day after the game, he comes over to the family house in Fairfield, Connecticut. Oh, my God. Now, Fairfield is a fairly well-to-do area, but they're not well-to-do. They're a blue-collar family. Father works construction. Mother has a daycare that she runs out of the home. He should know better, man. Well, this is what he knows.
Starting point is 00:52:46 They're vulnerable. I feel like he goes to his construction site, though, and is like, no, Hall came over to my house last night. And they're like, why? You know what, though? He likes my daughter. Yeah, he's trying to fuck her, bro. Yeah, but they were all probably like,
Starting point is 00:52:57 well, at least he's got money. I mean, that's the thing. Yeah, just raise that bean. Hey, you better make sure, you know, maybe he'll knock her up you never know hey you set up for life and you set yeah these are meathead mooks i'm sure these fucking murkies fucking no expense to construction guys a lot of them are cool but a lot of them are fucking meathead construction you know the guys you work with if you're the smart construction
Starting point is 00:53:19 guy think of all the people you work with and tell me if they're all right now upstanding normal citizens not at all fucking jerk offs and and fat dummies just yeah they're just worse criminals than mel hall at these people so anyway um so he pulls up in a limo yeah the family's outside taking pictures of it i mean that's how starstruck they are they're taking pictures of his arrival like he's you know a fucking visiting dignitary unbelievable so um uh friends are you know making fun of her because she's saying this is happening they're like they don't think she's telling the truth blah blah blah uh he said that he came to protect her and that destiny had brought them into each other each other's lives he keeps saying destiny is a big word and she he keeps saying it uh the
Starting point is 00:54:01 next day he told her he loved her so mel moves fast yeah mel moves quick mel's a sexual predator came over every night after the game what the fuck game's over like 10 o'clock he drives from the bronx to fairfield connecticut to see a 15 year old to hang out till two in the morning talking to a 15 year old right what could they possibly be talking about um they start he starts living there now the girl's not even really 100 into him at this point she thinks it's cool that he's nice and he's a but he's posing i don't know like he just shows up yeah she's she's 15 she doesn't have a concept of like this is a highly like highly like really down a fast lane adult relationship that she just she's 15 years old.
Starting point is 00:54:46 She's a kid. She just doesn't process it. She's a virgin at this point. Going along to get along? She's a virgin at this point. She's just happy that a famous person that she thinks is cool is paying attention to her. She doesn't even know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Meanwhile, she doesn't realize this man's got a fucking apartment in Trump Tower, and he's coming to Fairfield, Connecticut. And he's sleeping on their living room floor. Unbelievable. He sleeps on their living room floor. For what And he's coming to Fairfield, Connecticut. And he's sleeping on their living room floor. Unbelievable. He sleeps on their living room floor.
Starting point is 00:55:08 For what? That's where he lives. He has a Trump Tower apartment. This guy goes out of his way to groom. I will say that about him. Some of these guys are real lazy.
Starting point is 00:55:16 He doesn't just show up with like some candy. He's really good. This guy will sleep on your parents' living room floor. Sleep on the hardwood? Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I mean, it's impressive. It snows in Connecticut. It's fucking cold pictures i saw pictures of him like under the blankets like smiling with like a you know parents sitting in the background her sleeping next to him insane right oh my god um told his family that he was in love with her but he he's gonna keep her pure he says until she's 18 then he's gonna marry her and then fucking defile her games on it came on bought her bought jennifer a new convertible chevy cavalier when she was 15 too young to drive just to have a new car she's like a little bow wow yeah gets the whole family tickets to every game sends a limo for them every game i mean it's it's really nuts nuts. And buys the father a Corvette convertible. You son of a bitch.
Starting point is 00:56:07 You sold your fucking daughter for a Corvette convertible. You scummy piece of shit. And for a man to sleep on your floor. How much is your daughter's pussy worth? And this girl is just as mad at her family probably more than I am. She should be. She's pissed at them. Good.
Starting point is 00:56:23 She tells them, you sold out. You sold me out for an 89 corvette it's not even a good one i mean here i mean yeah one morning bulldozers showed up and started digging an in-ground pool just they were like what were the bulldozers they were like oh man there's an in-ground pool coming all paid for already you know paid up the mel hall but they were like wow that's amazing turns out later on it's because he's really possessive and didn't want her to go to the beach anymore. Wow. So he built an in-ground pool and was like, you don't have to go to the beach. You've got a pool now.
Starting point is 00:56:50 You don't take sand to the beach. You take the beach to your sand. That's how crazy he is. That's what you do. Gave her a diamond ring. Called it a promise ring because she wasn't ready to commit yet. So he said, we'll call it a promise ring for now. And then when you're ready, we'll call it an engagement ring.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Promise you're pussy to me when you're 18. You know how all of these things that i just told you with them uh that's a two-week time frame wow that is in two weeks they got a first phone call from first phone call to promise ring corvette sleeping on the floor bulldozers construction going on in the backyard there's mexicans coming over two weeks weeks. Two weeks. Two cars are brought in, convertibles. Wow. Two weeks. So this is, the life has changed for these people in two weeks just because his daughter
Starting point is 00:57:32 said they could have an autographed baseball. Way to go, Pop. You should call him. You should call him. You should send him a note. Fuck you, Dad. Damn it. So Jennifer said, quote, it was a whirlwind.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Everything went really fast, but I think that's what his intention is, to keep everything moving. I think he seized that opportunity. He was always talking about the whole destiny thing, because I had so many questions and I wasn't all in at that point. So he was just... He's like a magician. The magic trick is my dick in your vagina, and I just have to keep moving things around to keep your eyes on a swivel so that you don't see it happen. I find it incredible
Starting point is 00:58:07 that the kid is way smarter than the parents about this. She's the only one who's got some reservations. The parents are like, this is great. Hey, pop in the Corvette. That's one of the reflection
Starting point is 00:58:16 in the pool. He's pulling up to the construction site in his Corvette going, look what I got, guys. And they're like, she told you. You know, Mike from
Starting point is 00:58:23 the fucking construction line is like, hey, guys, hey, look, Mike from the fucking construction line is like, hey, guys, hey, look at this. Look at fucking Fancy over here with his Corvette. What, you doing
Starting point is 00:58:30 some side jobs? You building a couple decks out in New Haven? What you doing over there, buddy? Sorry. That's a great longshoreman.
Starting point is 00:58:40 I dig it. He, the mom, closes the daycare because Mel Hall's living on the living room floor, so you can't exactly have kids running over. The dad stays working, but the family is pretty much financially dependent on Hall. They're tripping over the log in the living room.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Absolutely. Jennifer says, quote, they sold out. They turned their brain off for three years. They were starstruck. They trusted him. He was calling my mom mother and she thought she was helping this new york yankee who needed a family and needed a home and needed care and love because he didn't get it from his family she felt a responsibility to take care of
Starting point is 00:59:14 this yankee and trusted him and uh trusted him so much uh that uh he had sex with her on the living room floor while her father was on the couch asleep three feet away i've seen the pictures the living room oh god he's two feet away i mean three feet away when she's 15 years old oh god they oust they move into the master bedroom and push the parents into no no into jennifer's old room. Oh, my God. They're sleeping in the kids' bedroom while this guy is sleeping in the master bathroom. Imagine the mother gathering her toiletries
Starting point is 00:59:51 out of the vanity in there in her bedroom to go, no, it's okay. I'll just use the hall bathroom. We'll just move into the room with pictures. I'll use the hall bathroom. God damn it. She's got Scott Baio on the wall. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:00:04 It's beautiful. You get it. You knew where I was going. I know. It's fine. It's beautiful. You get it. You knew where I was going. I know. Kirk Cameron is where you were going. That's where I was going. Kirk Cameron and Scott Baio on the wall.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Very nice. Kids bopping, shit like that. It's no problem. It'll be all right. Imagine that. I'm sleeping there with Debbie Gibson. She's clearing out her lotions
Starting point is 01:00:15 and her makeup foundation. She's like, it's fine. It's fine. Nope, this is normal. He needs family. He needs love. He needs love.
Starting point is 01:00:22 He needs to sleep in a bigger bedroom with my 15-year-old daughter. Jesus. Put all this oil in there um so he starts i mean they're they're such a couple yeah the family comes to the games every night it's normal there's a picture of them as a couple in the yankee yearbook oh my god like in the section with the wives and player families and shit it's him and her here's don maticly and his of age wife and then here's mel hall with a 15 year old 15 year old at the prom was the picture the 1991 year holy shit like and i've seen the picture him smiling he's behind her arms around her she's
Starting point is 01:00:56 this is like under the sea at the bottom of the fucking holy shit he i wish he was under the sea at this point and nobody thought it was weird that this was going on because her family was there. So everybody was like, oh, well, her family's there, so it must be fine. Jim Leyritz, who was another fucking... First of all, he hit a big home run in the 96 World Series, so I'll always love him for that. But he went and did some wacky shit, too.
Starting point is 01:01:17 We'll probably end up revisiting Jim Leyritz someday. A lot of these guys, we talked about Strawberry. There's a lot of revisits later on here. But Leyritz, we'll talk about probably in a year or two. We'll get to Jim Leiritz. He said, quote, Whenever I saw her with him, they were usually there, meaning the family. I never saw it as a child predator type thing.
Starting point is 01:01:35 He was almost a father figure to her. He never talked nasty or dirty about her. There was a respect factor there. Yeah, that's creepy. If there's a guy hanging out with a female, first of all, if she's underage, that's creepy. If there's a guy hanging out with a female, first of all, if she's underage, he's creepy.
Starting point is 01:01:47 If he's hanging out with a female and not talking dirty about her in front of his ball player friends in the clubhouse, he's probably a creepy motherfucker who wants
Starting point is 01:01:55 to do shit that's too weird to talk about in front of the other guys. If he talks dirty about her, that's a signifier that he's got some shit going on. Quote,
Starting point is 01:02:03 Mel Hall's weird weird. Unnamed teammate. So, yeah, he would touch her sexually and she would pretend to sleep. This was before they had sex. She would pretend to sleep and he would kind of diddle her up a little bit. And she never thought anything was wrong with this because she's a kid. She just didn't understand it. wrong with this because she's a kid she didn't she just was you know didn't understand it uh uh she say she of he of course told the parents that she wouldn't have he wasn't gonna do anything
Starting point is 01:02:30 till she was 18 mother made a deal with him in order to have him not have sex with her till she was 18 mother made a deal unbeknownst to jennifer by the way oh my god they're they're making deals about broker and shit they're broker and shit listen to this this is incredible mother had a deal with him that he could go sleep with other women do whatever he wanted to on the road or do whatever he needed to do as long as when she was 18 he married the daughter and took care of the family wow that's what she said what a selfish jennifer didn't know about this what a selfish bitch. These people are fucking horrible. They're horrible. They would have been better off leaving her just with wolves.
Starting point is 01:03:09 They essentially participated in raping her. She would have been better off raised by raccoons in the forest than these people. For real. Raccoons wouldn't actively sell her out anyway for like a Corvette. You couldn't sway a family of raccoons with a Corvette. They wouldn't care. They wouldn't even sell her out anyway for like a Corvette. You couldn't sway a family of raccoons
Starting point is 01:03:25 with a Corvette. They wouldn't care. They wouldn't even take a nest full of acorns. No, maybe a package of old hot dogs, but not Corvettes. So this fucking... They essentially raped her. That is incredible.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Pretty much. Pretty much. So this goddamn idiot, he gets... This is when he starts getting super possessive and jealous of her. He is jealous, really jealous of a 15-year-old boy who's a sophomore in the high school
Starting point is 01:03:51 who she used to like back in the day at some point. Well, they've got shit in common. They can talk. They kind of go to school together. He doesn't play for the Yankees or have mountain lions as pets. Sleep in your parents' bed. Sleep in the parents' bed. Doesn't have to buy in-ground pools.
Starting point is 01:04:05 It's really weird. And if you're a guy when you're 15, suppose you like this girl. How do you compete with that? No, there's no way. You're looking at it going, you don't look at it as childhood, but you're going, this guy gave the father a Corvette, is digging them a pool, gets them limo rides to the stadium every day. I've got a student loan for a community college.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I have a GT Pro Performer. It's like 1990. A pro performer it's like now 1990 it's got pegs on the back she could stand on you know i mean that's something i can take her around and that but other than that i'm pretty fucked here um told her that he got rid of all of her friends that he found threatening like weeded through the friends left her with a few that he didn't think were threatening uh she ain't gonna fuck that one yeah she's not gonna fuck him that girl is fine uh told her not to go to the beach. Didn't like people looking at her.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Shit like that, like I said, with the pool. She said about the whole situation, Jennifer, this was in testimony later on that comes up. And I'll tell you when she testifies against him. It's not at the actual trial. This is systematic. And I'm telling you this whole story because what he got convicted for is a mirror of this.
Starting point is 01:05:05 And there's not as much information, but this is what happened there, too. Because it's exactly the same thing. We'll get into that. But she said, quote, it was all Mel Hall all the time. Anytime he left on the road, he would reprimand me and tell me not to see anybody or talk to anybody or go anywhere or not to do anything. But basically wait for his calls. She said that in court. That doesn't sound right. Sit around the pool. or talk to anybody, or go anywhere, or not to do anything, but basically wait for his calls. Wow. She said that in court.
Starting point is 01:05:26 That doesn't sound right. Sit around the pool. Go for a ride with your dad in a Corvette. That's it. Go for a ride with your dad, hop in the old Chevy Cavalier, and fucking go down to the old construction site and have lunch with your dad's friends there. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Regale you. You can regale them with Mel Hall stories. I'll be back after this four-game series against the Giants. Buys her a diamond necklace with a 27 on it, which was his jersey number. Wow. Which is, yeah, buys her that. That's my property. And a bracelet that reads Mel.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Jesus. So he is locking it down. Wanted to propose to her at the school dance in front of everyone and told her about it and she said no please. She was too embarrassed basically. But he wanted to lay claim. would lock her in the closet oh you little motherfuckers yeah everybody this is my girl i'll dig pools in all your yards you have no idea um got in a guy's face in a restaurant and like started a fight with a guy that was apparently looking at her in a restaurant uh locked her in a closet
Starting point is 01:06:25 when he didn't like her clothes he's like a terrible stepfather he sends her this apology note which she saved all the notes all the shit she said awesome that's why she knows it's the apology note for this says quote this is we'll do in their own words mel hall apology note here mel hall apology note in their own words quote babyote, baby, when I ask you to change, it's because I love you. I know sometimes I'm a little tough, but no one loves you better or more. Mel. You hit it on the head right at the beginning, Mel. Baby. She's a fucking baby. Baby. Yeah. Don't use that word if your girlfriend's 15. She's 15. Don't call her baby. He trains in Florida in the winter of of 9192 he decides he wants
Starting point is 01:07:07 to train down there the family fucking moves to florida jennifer switches schools they move to florida to be close to mel wow the whole family that's how that's like and he has them that's rearranging your entire life for the winter season starts he has her move into trump tower with him now okay during the season two months before school is out in her senior year he talks her into dropping out because he says you don't need a diploma you got me i'll take care of you what do you need a high school diploma if you don't need an education no you're buying fucking mountain lions i need a diploma this girl still does not have a high school diploma you're still talking about a fucking mill no you're talking about buying a grizzly bear i need a diploma he just left her
Starting point is 01:07:48 the yeah he wants to she she gets starts to notice these things she knows harley davidson just pick just came to pick up 17 motorcycles yeah you know anything about these 17 motorcycles i've got to get a diploma i have never seen a flatbed that big is what i'm saying that's all i never saw one that big so he uh limo driver is told to keep an eye on her, basically. She's just a Rapunzel up there in the tower. But one little outing they had was a very, very nice dinner. Nice couple's dinner with him, Mel Hall, Jennifer, his, at this point, 16, 17-year-old girlfriend who's living with him in Trump Tower,
Starting point is 01:08:26 and none other than Donald Trump and Marla Maples. Jesus Christ. Real nice dinner together. Apparently Trump and Mel were pals all the way. All the way. They were pals. Took them to Chuck E. Cheese or some shit. Un-fucking-real.
Starting point is 01:08:38 What the fuck, Donald? At this point, she starts getting mad. Yeah, thanks. That's what I mean. Way to facilitate, Donald. Whatever your political affiliation is, that's the kind of judgment we're looking at. Donald Trump didn't stand up for a young girl's rights. Jesus, what an asshole.
Starting point is 01:08:56 So at this point, she starts noticing that he goes to Atlanta to hang out with Deion Sanders and goes to strip clubs, and he's out for... He goes to the gym for five hours this is deon on coke and shit oh this is when deon was crazy this is i mean mel hall they're probably two peas in a pod i'm sure of it um so at this point she's mad she thinks he's cheating they're in florida she's probably right well they're in florida she knows where he's gonna be drives to a florida hotel where she knows he is and sees him in the parking lot having a really heated altercation with another woman type of altercation
Starting point is 01:09:32 you only have with someone you are involved involved with yeah uh she i give this girl credit she's got balls this jennifer dia she's the smartest one in the whole story she's the only one with any fucking balls she confronts them them. Tell me she does. She gets out. Yes. Goes bat shit on them. Oh, a 17-year-old. Tells him to go fuck himself up and down. Take your Jerry Curl
Starting point is 01:09:51 having ass. Hope your fucking lion cubs eat you. Go stick yourself up Donald Trump's asshole basically. Hope you get a grizzly bear and it kills you.
Starting point is 01:10:00 So, yeah, exactly. So, that was it. She cut it off. This is how smart this girl is she cut it off told the family i guess she was so upset that even this piece of shit family even said okay yeah you don't have to see him anymore yeah so first they were like oh whoa whoa whoa whoa wait i just got my car waxed she spoke with him only once more on the phone that was it she was done that's how done she closed it off. Good for her. At 17, she knew to do this.
Starting point is 01:10:26 At 17, she had the balls to do that and the smarts to do that. Brilliant girl. More than her family, more than any of these other people in this whole story. Hats off to you, Jennifer Diaz. Good girl. Never saw her again. Never saw him again until she testified against him. Good for her.
Starting point is 01:10:40 I hope my daughter's half as smart. No shit, right? Good God. This is funny, too. I just have to throw this as smart. No shit, right? Good God. This is funny, too. I just have to throw this in here. It has nothing to do with this, but when his career comes to an end now, he goes to San Francisco, three hits and 25 at bats, not allowed in Canada. He's a disaster.
Starting point is 01:10:59 With San Francisco, they were using him as a pinch hitter. He left. He retired. He said, quote, pinch hitting is a vital role, but I will never accept it. Well, how about you got no choice, asshole. Have fun not playing baseball. Sorry about that. So his career is over, and he says, quote, in their own words, here we go, guys, quote,
Starting point is 01:11:18 and I'm going to give you a nice, this is a fluffy, nice, blue, cloudy, nice day quote here, because then it's's gonna take a real hard turn he's gonna get what he fucking deserves in a minute it's coming up so don't worry guys uh he said quote in their own words my career lasted over 13 years in the mlb i was taught to fight not to give up to win i taught many teams all winners all nationally ranked all-star students my life has been wonderful. So that's what he said when he retired. He was feeling good about himself.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Life has been wonderful. Life has been wonderful, and it was wonderful until June 21, 2007, when he's arrested in Louisville, Texas, by Richmond Hills Police Department. Should have been arrested in New York City. He should have been arrested a lot because this was not the only thing here. The Richland Hills Police Department received a report in May of 2007 from an adult female at that point that said that he had sexually assaulted her back in 1999 when he was her basketball coach.
Starting point is 01:12:19 I love it. We'll get into this story. Another victim that was also under 14 was also named in the report. Both these girls at the time. One was also under 14 was also named in the report. Both these girls at the time. One was 14. One was 12. Good girls.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Let's get into this here. And, I mean, so he's done all of this. He's now arrested for the most horrific crimes you can fucking commit. Murder is not as bad as this. He's arrested for sexual assault of a person under 14. Aggravated sexual assault of a minor under the age of 14, which carries a possibility of a life sentence. Good. He's the biggest scumbag in the world.
Starting point is 01:12:53 In Richland Hills? Richland Hills, Texas. Texas. It's in Texas. It's in the Fort Worth area. They are, I mean, there's children with lives shattered. Okay? There is this guy who's in jail. He's a mess. There's these kids' families. There's all this horrible shit, okay? There is this guy who's in jail. He's a mess.
Starting point is 01:13:05 There's these kids' families. There's all this horrible shit, and I feel bad. I feel bad for all of them, Jimmy. Every time you say, I feel bad. I feel so bad. But not. But not as bad as I feel for these poor fucking people named Mel Hall that I found. Like Mel Hall, the lecturer in psychology at Staffordshire University.
Starting point is 01:13:30 An award leader for the Psychology and Criminology Award. Nice guy. Staffordshire, that's England. That's England. Poor guy. Mel Hall, the CEO of Specialty Care, the nation's leading provider of clinical services to more than 825 hospitals in 44 states puerto rico and germany molester mel paul poor mel hall transport limited 3960 commerce road in london ontario the trucking company has about 25 employees you look it's a lot of emails about
Starting point is 01:13:58 asking for a corvette mel hall the general manager for human resources, general affairs for Mitsubishi Motors, North America, Inc. and Bloomington, Illinois. Have you got a daughter, Mel? The 16th annual Mel Hall Memorial Car Race in Maryville, Tennessee at the Raceway. There's also a house for sale in Maryville, Tennessee on 586 Mel Hall Road. You want to live on fucking Mel Hall Road? I don't want to remember him either. How the fuck do they have a road named after mel hall the project manager at comcast cable in philadelphia the worst ones of all mel hall the girls athletic coordinator at college station middle school in
Starting point is 01:14:39 college station texas you want to bet he got so many background checks and even worse than that mel hall who teaches advanced placement biology oh christ at bogalusa high school in bogalusa california louisiana unbelievable holy shit the fbi has so many fucking people so that's who i feel bad for those people who come up on a goddamn google search unbelievable of mel because if you go hey i want to look at my my kid's coach here and you go mel hall convicted of what what what the fuck he raped what what the fuck oh my god is that oh no wait never mind that's a white lady mel hall is a white lady in college station texas she seems like a lovely person she looked very nice i think they were the lady
Starting point is 01:15:26 panthers lady cubs lady cubs i don't know that's right so this is from uh the article mel hall is not a nice man which is my favorite article he's released from jail the next day after being arrested on 35 000 bond for sexual assault of a child under 17 and aggravated sexual assault of a child under 14. He got out the next day. Yeah. In 98, he met these people. Met this family exact same way at a basketball tournament, though, this time. Because he's the coach.
Starting point is 01:15:55 He was just scouting. Oh, okay. Scouting. Grooming. Looking for scouting for grooms. Scouting and grooming sound very similar. Groom. Yeah, his scouting is an awful lot like grooming.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Father asked the guy for baseball tips for his son. You figure, hey, he's a major leaguer. Hall instead said, I see a lot of basketball talent in your daughter there. Oh, boy. I'm trying. I'm looking to start a team. I'd really like to have her on my team. Just me and her.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Very soon, he said he was building a house in a nearby suburb, so he started living with them. Oh, my God. You guys know how the rest of the fucking story goes, because we already said it. Hey, why don't you sleep in your daughter's room, and we'll sleep in yours? Before you know it, the mother's clearing out the fucking lotion out of her vanity, and things are about to go down. Taking the candles out from around the tub, you know what I mean? You sleep in the room with the Backstreet Boy posters.
Starting point is 01:16:44 This was in 99? This was 98. 98. This happened. That's about this happened all right she said he oh they were around she said he exposed himself first to her and her little brother while the parents were away the little brother testified in court that he thought it was a game that's why he never said anything because he didn't fucking know what it was but i'm surprised he didn't offer to play that game with somebody else hey take your dick out let's play a game. At eight years old. It's a hell of a game. Apparently started to touch her. Yeah, who wins?
Starting point is 01:17:10 Nobody. The answer? Everybody loses. Nobody. Everyone's a loser. Every fucking one of you. Started to touch her and showed her how to perform oral sex, which I hope he didn't show her on The Little Brother.
Starting point is 01:17:22 I don't know how that worked. But yeah, would take her to his apartment that he shared with his girlfriend and he had an infant son at this point to show her porn. He's such an awful person. She said in court, quote, I trusted him.
Starting point is 01:17:34 I honestly had no idea there was anything inappropriate at the time. I looked up to him. I just thought this is how normal people act. You know, because she's a child and she doesn't fucking know anything about it. And she hasn't read that Mel Hall is a bad man yet. She doesn't know that Mel Hall is not a nice man. Just read about his treatment of Bernie Williams and Mountain Lions and Ricky Henderson and you're fine.
Starting point is 01:17:54 So on Tuesday, June 14, 2009, he is found guilty. Thank God. Thank you. Jesus. Thank you, Texas justice system for once. You guys are good. Found guilty of three counts of aggravated assault of a child, two counts of indecency with a child.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Jury took less than 90 minutes to convict him. Wow. Good. That's fast. He faced up to life, and sentencing hearing began later in the day. They don't fuck around. Wow. Sentence right there.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Go sit over there, and we'll get to you in a minute. During this sentencing testimony, that's when you have people testifying for and against his character uh his ex-wife and two daughters testified on his behalf ex-wife loves him uh daughter bianca hall said quote my dad would not do that and told the court how much she loves and trusts him uh also uh there was also other people that testified guess Guess who testified against him? Oh, Jen, come in. Old Jennifer Diaz. You know who wasn't there?
Starting point is 01:18:48 Her family. And they said they tried to use that against her. They tried to say she was lying. And even your family said they didn't think you guys were having sex. Because the family had the deal with him. Oh, they're such dicks. So she said, yeah, I know. That's why I'm here alone.
Starting point is 01:19:02 And I have problems with my family. Because they let a fucking grown man fuck me in the living room. They gave up their bedroom for this. Well, he snored on the couch. So, yeah. Also, another girl that said Hall touched her inappropriately and told her he wanted to have sex with her when he was their coach. Another woman testified, said that Hall would watch her take batting practice when he was coaching her in softball and make crude comments and tell her that he wanted to have sex with her. Another woman testified, said that when he was her softball coach at the end of the season pool party, he grabbed her around the waist and made lewd noises at her and said he just grabbed me how I thought was inappropriate at the time.
Starting point is 01:19:43 And that was all the same girl. Great swing. I like your ass in them pants. I'm 12, asshole. It's amazing, man. And another teammate of the girl that he is on trial for testified that he also did inappropriate things with her. The list was never fucking ending. I hate Mel Hall. I hate Mel Hall.
Starting point is 01:20:01 That should be the name of this episode. I think it's good. I hate Mel Hall. I hate Mel Hall. hall that should be the name of this episode i think it's gonna i hate mel hall i hate mel so uh june 15th of goddamn that week of 2009 uh he is sentenced to 45 years in prison that's a stiff judge also hates mel that judge rightfully hates yeah he has to serve 22 and a half of that so he's in there for a while um 2016 that's seven so he's still got he's fucked fucking 15 years ago yeah yeah he's in there uh jury took less than an hour to decide sentencing they were like in less than 90 minutes they're like yes he's a scumbag yes we want him away for a long fucking time they took 90 minutes to convict him and and how long did 60 minutes to sentence less
Starting point is 01:20:40 than 60 minutes so they're like uh we're gonna take lunch lunch. Come back in 45. We've already got our verdict. And the poor daughter is sitting there like, you know, the poor daughter's, his daughter, Mel Hall's daughter's crying because she thinks her dad's innocent the whole time. The prosecutor, Kim Diavion, Diavion, Diavion, I don't know how the fuck you say
Starting point is 01:20:59 that, said, quote, we believe the verdict does on some level show that the jury understood. They looked in these girls' eyes and they said this is worth 40 years. And we agree with them. On some level. I think they're on the right level. Crime and sports agrees with them, too. Fuck yes.
Starting point is 01:21:14 I'm in. 40 years. Good for you. 45 years. Eat a dick, Mel Hall. So the defense. You, sir, can fuck off. You, sir, can fuck off, as they would say in a foreign court.
Starting point is 01:21:25 The defense had the balls to argue that Hall was, quote, a good man who mentored a lot of athletes and still had a lot of good to do. They haven't read enough articles. They have not read any of this stuff. Defense attorney Brady Wyatt said, quote, for all the good this man has done in his life, What the fuck? it seems like this was an excessive verdict.
Starting point is 01:21:46 No, it's not. Lawyers are fucking way too high paid. He is convicted of raping a 12-year-old. There's no verdict to that. No, there's no sentence that is stiff enough. He says, this is, we're going to get into some serious in their own words here. This is amazing. He says, quote, in their own words here this is amazing uh he says quote in their own words
Starting point is 01:22:06 all right quote i will fight to prove my innocence to all my social media media haters keep hating if you know me at all you know i'll be back in 2016 i have national broadcasters ready to tell my story i've been humbled by this setback for sure with the support of my wife and others i will overcome this. It's all about the truth. Let it be known that Mel Hall is innocent and the truth will set me free. Wow.
Starting point is 01:22:30 I'll give you two worldwide broadcasters that tell you, Mel, to go fuck yourself, sir. You can eat a dick, Mel Hall. For real. So we're counterbalancing whatever national broadcasters might say. Bring it on the woodwork, because I'll talk to them.
Starting point is 01:22:42 And all the crime and sports listeners, I'm sure I'll hate you too at this point. And if you look at articles about him, blog posts and shit, there are tons of comments going, this is bullshit. He didn't do a fucking thing. He has a lot of supporters, man. This is insane. He says another in their own words, quote,
Starting point is 01:23:00 It's been over six years since my sentence. Although I've been quiet, we've been working on my appeal. In 2016, all questions will be answered, all secrets revealed. All my life, I've worked hard to be the best. Second was never good enough, always beating the odds. For those supporters who know me and believe in me, thank you. I must tell you, I would never hurt a child. I've taught for years and been very successful.
Starting point is 01:23:25 The truth will come out. Oh, boy. We're halfway through this year, Mel. Now. Can't wait to hear them. If you, you know, maybe want to talk
Starting point is 01:23:33 to Mel Hall yourself. Please do. You can write to Mel Hall. I beg you. And I have the address. And guys, please write to Mel Hall. And if you do,
Starting point is 01:23:40 tell us about it. Write to Mel Hall. Let's all call him a piece of shit. It's the whole crime and sports universe here. We'll get into, you about it, write to Mel Hall. Let's all call him a piece of shit. That's the whole Crime and Sports Universe here. We'll get into, you can reach him at Melvin Hall 158
Starting point is 01:23:52 1384 2661 F as in Frank M as in Mary 2054 Tennessee Colony, Texas 75884. That's an address you deserve.
Starting point is 01:24:07 You deserve that address that no human being could ever remember in the history of the world. And so he is locked up there. They're appealing. Everyone gives a shit. You're not getting off. You fucked a 12-year-old and she's told everyone you did it. You're done. You're going to prison.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Enjoy the toilet, booze, cocksucker. What kind of defense do you have? Well, there's no DNA. There's 18 12-year-olds that all say you did it. You're done. You're going to prison. Enjoy the toilet booths, cocksucker. What kind of defense do you have? Well, there's no DNA. There's 18 12-year-olds that all say you did it. They have ruined lives thanks to you. Yeah, you should have
Starting point is 01:24:31 found one 18-year-old instead of 18 12-year-olds. You have one that was 15 who doesn't talk to her entire family because of you. So, yes, this complete and utter
Starting point is 01:24:38 piece of garbage is there and that's Mel Hall, folks. I love it. I mean, good God, Jesus Christ, what a fucking disaster. He's where he belongs to be. That was a journey. I mean, that's, I mean, this is a long Hall, folks. I love it. I mean, good God, Jesus Christ. What a fucking disaster. He's where he belongs to be. That was a journey.
Starting point is 01:24:47 I mean, this is a long episode, too. We're at like an hour 20 now. It's a long episode. And it had to be. Good God. He's got mountain lions. He's crazy, this fucking guy. How can we skip the Donald Trump shit?
Starting point is 01:24:59 17 motorcycles being repossessed. He's tackling Ricky Henderson. He's taking limos to the ball. But he's a crazy person. Or stubble buying. He is like Eddie Johnson that doesn't mean well at all, ever. Not even once. He doesn't give a shit. He just doesn't even care.
Starting point is 01:25:13 He's just an asshole. We hope you enjoyed Mel Hall because he's a whack job. I had a good time with him. He's crazy. We do want to plug one thing also too before we get into our social media stuff if you would like to see Jimmy and myself
Starting point is 01:25:29 do stand up comedy we will be at the Tempe Improv Tempe Arizona here in Phoenix if you want to come see us was it July 6th I believe it's the first Wednesday in July it's called Speakeasy at the Improv.
Starting point is 01:25:45 If you look on the website, you can buy tickets now. But if you are a crime and sports listener, we have a very special thing for you here. Crime and sports listeners, you can use the code Crime and Sports. It won't be active yet. Give it about a week or so. There's a time.
Starting point is 01:26:01 It's July 6th. But you can use the promo code Crime and Sports. You can do it at the ticket booth. Free tickets! Free tickets. Come on in and see Jimmy. Come on in and see the Jimmys here. Headline and Jimmy Wissman will be featuring,
Starting point is 01:26:13 so you're going to get to see us for a whole shitload of time. Yes. It's a really good time. Come on out. It's just us. And then Brian Mullen. It's just us and a guy named Brian Mullen, who's a real, just a garbage human being.
Starting point is 01:26:24 We love Brian Mullen. He's putting on a garbage human being now we love Brian Mullen he's putting on the show that night it's his kind of night at the improv and he's a big fan of the show actually he texts us
Starting point is 01:26:31 I get texted two o'clock in the morning every like Tuesday morning at two o'clock in the morning going man that guy's a real piece of garbage what the fuck's up with that so thank you Brian
Starting point is 01:26:40 and please follow us Brian just hasn't been arrested yet and didn't play professional sports otherwise we'd talk about him too if he gets arrested
Starting point is 01:26:46 yeah we'll make an exception because he's a professional sports fan he's a fan what the hell why not
Starting point is 01:26:51 so follow us on social media please it's at crimeandsports on twitter crimeandsports at gmail.com
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Starting point is 01:27:01 I am Jimmy Wisman you can find me at Wisman sucks W-H-I-S-M-A-N, on Twitter, Instagram, and Snapchat. I don't do Snapchat yet.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Whatever. You're not 12. Yeah, that's what it is. So whatever. Follow me. You'd be looking for girls that Mel Hall would be interested in if you were on Snapchat too much. Try not to get in trouble.
Starting point is 01:27:19 That means Jimmy normally is not a diddler guy. That Snapchat is a confusing piece of shit is what it is. You can find me at Jimmy P is funny all over. James Petrigallo on Facebook and all that shit. You can find me there. Friend me. Say hello. Guys, we love you so much.
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