Crime in Sports - #170 - Praise The Lord... Pass The Crack! - The Phenomicalness of Aaron "The Hawk" Pryor
Episode Date: July 23, 2019This week, we check out a legendary boxer. One of the greatest of all time. One of the most prolific punch throwers... and crack smokers in history! He fought his way out of a childhood, wher...e sleeping outside was preferable to being home, to become a true legend. Then he discovered crack, glorious crack. This led to fights with everyone, including his mother, crazy crack house confrontations, getting shot by his "wife", lies, restarts, rehabs, jail, more arrests, panhandling, a ton more crack, and eventually Jesus. It really needs to be heard to be believed! Find yourself, in the glow of a crack pipe, be one of the greatest fighters who ever lived, and pray to the lord... for more crack with Aaron "The Hawk" Pryor!! Get your tickets to Crime In Sports LIVE in Phoenix, on October 19... https://phxevents.cblive.com/shows/106416 Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Even swooping from the air.
Oh.
The guy's got a nickname that fits that perfectly.
We have a wild one.
It's a brain-damaged crackhead boxer.
That's a recipe for disaster.
When you mix in a beaker brain damage and crack, you really, when you shake that up, it all comes out of the top.
It's bubbling.
The whole room's filled with smoke.
You've got to clear it out.
It's like mixing what is it, bleach and ammonia or whatever it is.
Have the exhaust fan going.
Well-ventilated room is what we're talking about here.
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what's filling the room with with brain damage and crack smoke this started because it's a... All right. Like I said, it's filling the room with brain damage and crack smoke.
It's the mixture.
We've got to get it done before we suffocate in here.
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Let's do this.
Let's talk about Aaron Tunnell Pryor.
Oh.
You know who Aaron Pryor is?
Aaron Pryor.
He's a legendary boxer.
Expos?
Expos.
Royals, Jimmy.
Royals.
Legendary boxer. Expos? Expos. Royals, Jimmy. Royals. Legendary boxer, actually.
He's one of the best light welterweights of all time, like 135 to 140.
Doesn't get any better than him on every list.
He's in the top 10 of all time and that sort of thing.
Nasty dude.
Born October 20th, 1955.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, he's an older guy.
He boxed in the 80 the 80s mainly late 70s
and through the 80s and uh he is from cincinnati oh and uh yeah he he came up tough yeah i believe
he came up tough he was he he um yeah it's i mean there's obviously parts of every city that are
shitty but when you're talking like the 60s uh 60s black neighborhoods and some of these kind
of cities like cincinnati were not great places to grow up as far as, you know, there wasn't a lot of wealth and a lot of opportunity there.
So his mother and his father, his father's name is Isaiah.
His mother's name is Sarah.
They weren't married ever.
And he never knew his father until later, as we'll talk about.
He was raised by his mother uh
his mother has drove a school bus to support all seven of her children good lord so yeah it's a it's
a it's not a lot of money growing up no and his mom is tough and he does not get along with his
mom well as we'll talk about he's there's some issues at home uh that continue on through his
whole life basically until she dies. No.
And then it's, you know.
She was the greatest.
She was an angel at that point.
But until then.
She is one now.
Until then, yeah.
There's police involvement.
If you need police involvement in your relationship with your mom, there's problems.
I'm sorry.
You should never need a cop to intervene with your mother.
I don't think I've ever had that.
No.
You should be able to work shit out with your mom eventually you know what i mean so anyway uh seven kids uh
she gave him the name prior and uh she's just that's not it's not his dad her name is shellery
and his dad's name is graves so what the fuck just we don't know where that no one knows where
she started is what she just made up
prior and said, there you go.
Really?
You're Aaron Pryor now.
Big guy.
Big Richard Pryor.
Yeah.
I don't know if that was like an older family name and nobody.
That's just whatever.
This is 1955.
Interesting.
Richard Pryor was the same position he was.
They're almost the same age.
Richard Pryor is a little bit older than him, but not old enough then to have been famous
yet.
You know, or influence a name and definitely not be famous yet. No. Not to influence a name.
And definitely not be his dad.
No.
I don't think so.
His siblings also have problems with the law growing up.
And the mothers, if you're a single mother and you're driving a school bus and you have
seven kids, it's hard to keep that shit together.
I don't know how anybody, there are people that do it and I don't know how the hell they
do it.
It's hard to get their names right.
That's what I mean.
Let alone the goddamn food right.
Names and, you know, imagine dinner, the pressure to just do everything all the time.
Did you eat yet?
I don't know.
The tally you'd have to take.
You'd have to walk around with a checklist.
Did you eat?
Yes, he ate.
He did not eat.
Okay, we have four yeses and three.
God forbid you got a couple or three of them sick at once.
Yeah.
You got to try to remember which one you gave Benadryl to last.
You're walking back and forth like a first- flight attendant i'm going to drink more wine you
drunk fucking mimosa okay all right bloody mary at seven in the morning sure why not i love that
i love how it's people like if you look into first class you can see people who are clearly like
they're going somewhere and like khakis and a nice polo or like a sport coat like They're going to a business thing, but they're drinking at 630 in the morning.
It's pretty hilarious.
They would not be doing that normally, but it's like, well, we're in the air.
It's like international waters or something.
And I'm sitting in 12B going, that drunk fuck just ordered vodka.
I heard it.
I heard him.
I heard the vodka.
He seems happy about it.
That motherfucker.
Jesus.
One of his brothers is in prison for armed
robbery growing up uh his brother ends up being sentenced to a long prison sentence for armed
robbery and he gets out a little bit later and ends up going back in and his brother's just in
prison his whole life uh one of his sisters stabbed one of her boyfriends to death wow um
and we went to trial and everything and it was finally ruled a justifiable homicide.
So there's some turmoil, let's just say.
I mean, we are like seven minutes in.
We're four minutes past the upfront house cleaning, and we already have armed robbery and a fucking stabbing somebody to death.
His whole family.
Justifiable homicide.
His whole family's a bad bitch.
Yeah, it's some bad shit.
Now, his his mother this is
another thing now so the sister stabbed a boyfriend to death yeah his mother shot his stepfather of
course she did five times with a handgun and paralyzed him so there's also that and he
survived yeah paralyzed my christ so this is the type of environment this kid's growing up in
So this is the type of environment this kid's growing up in.
Seven kids, shit's going wild, brothers armed robbing, sisters shanking people,
mom's packing heat and shooting stepdad because he's, I'm sure, beating the crap out of her or something.
She probably deserved it, I'm sure.
Who the fuck knows what's going on?
But wow, this is... Surprise, this guy plays a sport that involves releasing aggressions?
Weird that this guy would have a sport where
violence is involved and it's just beat that guy to a bloody pulp okay and he's goddamn good at it
one of the best of all time one of the top 20 of all time who's ever done it that's how good he is
if you ask asked about his childhood later on he said uh quote i was deprived i was doomed too
he said that uh he grew up thinking that like a good future was not for him like that was not
even like a thought or consideration no he was just like other people that you see they have
futures i'm just fucked that's for somebody else. I'm going to stab or shoot somebody. Yeah, I'm doomed. My whole family, that's what it is.
Sarah, the mother, she had a 9 p.m. curfew for the kids,
the ones who were not in prison at this point.
And when one came home late, they either got,
and this wasn't a choice that they had,
it was a choice that she would make,
they either got a whooping,
or she would order the kid to stay outside for the night, one of the two, whichever mood she would make. They either got a whooping or she would order the kid
to stay outside for the night.
One of the two.
Whichever mood she was in.
You get a beating or...
Beating and you can sleep in the house.
Or no beating
and you have to sleep outside.
I don't know what that...
And that's up to me.
I'll figure that out.
I'll decide that.
Depending on the circumstances.
Depending on how late you get home.
You never know.
What kind of mood I'm in.
If I've had a glass of wine or not.
What kind of day... People were shitty on the bus. You never know what you get home. You never know what kind of mood I'm in, if I've had a glass of wine or not, what kind of day people were shitty on the bus.
You never know what's going on.
Traffic could be bad and you're sleeping outside.
Unbelievable.
So he says, quote, I think that's why I never had problems sleeping in hallways when I got
older.
I had to do it so many times as a kid.
My God.
That's the kind of guy he is.
Jesus, this is sad.
His next quote here about his childhood is fucking depressing and sad.
It's like a bad after-school special where you're just like,
no, no, come on, no one's going to say it like that.
He says it like this.
Quote, I was a kid nobody paid attention to.
Some nights I just sat to hell with it and slept in a doorway.
Wasn't anything for me at home anyway.
That is the...
My God.
For a child to just go, not even worth going home i'll just
sleep in a doorway what kind of home life must you have to wear dinner not any not dinner not
anything there's no there is no fruity pebbles in this house none whatsoever not a fucking
heartbreaking not a coco crispy to be found this is a bad time. Bad times right here.
I can't imagine as a child anything where you're like, you know what?
And it's not like one thing happened.
You know, there's a big fight at home.
It's just a regular thing.
Half the time you just go, nah, nothing at home for me.
But did you know anybody like that?
I'll just sleep.
Yes.
Yeah, I do.
Fuck yeah.
Fuck yeah.
I knew plenty of kids like that.
They just sleep wherever they, but they usually usually sleep at a friend's house or something.
Very rarely they found a doorway.
This kid would just be like, I'll just sleep here.
It's just as good as home.
Horrible.
I might get shanked by a homeless man in the night.
Because this spot's warm.
But fuck it.
I don't know.
It's better than hearing her.
I don't know, man.
Whatever.
Holy shit.
That's pretty sad and really puts it in real stark terms as far as what his childhood was like.
He started boxing when he was 13.
And that was just like, holy shit, someplace to let my aggression out.
And things are different here.
Things are structured here.
It felt good for him to get into that environment.
He says, quote, when I wasn't running in the morning or speeding hours uh speeding hours
training at the gym my favorite pastime was listening to boxing matches on the radio
so he's he loved muhammad ali as a kid he thought you know i was like his fucking hero
he said he would sneak into the stockyards and ride the bulls at night when he was a kid he
thought that was fun at the slaughterhouse he's Stockyards. He's riding bulls. He's riding your steak later.
He's just going to hop right on it.
Are we eating bulls?
I mean, I don't know.
Are we eating cows?
I don't know what they are.
I guess we're eating both.
I imagine it's both.
It's just fucking beef.
Not a virile bull, though.
No.
A bull that can get his fuck on.
If it's virile, fucking we need that.
No one's eating that.
You've got to make more of these.
He's going to be around for a while.
You've got to make more steaks.
Yeah, until his dick gets soft.
Otherwise, he can produce steaks.
I think that's true.
I have no idea.
We're not cow people.
I love them.
My favorite thing.
I love beef.
It's wonderful.
They're adorable, too.
Yeah.
I love them.
I will be the beef spokesperson.
I'll do the old Sam Elliott thing.
I'll be like, beef.
I'll put a voice on for you.
So what's for you every goddamn night because
it's fucking good you know so anyway he says uh he would get in there and ride it he said it was
just for the thrill of it he said quote i was afraid i uh always afraid i'd get hurt that's
why i did it yeah okay to overcome a fear like it felt good to do something scary that's the type of dude we're talking about
that's a banana spot when you see his always thought i was gonna get hurt so i would do it
i was afraid i'd get hurt that's why i did it wow because it was it was a make you feel alive i guess
when there's so much chaos and turmoil yeah to get anything to feel you probably need something
like that going on you need to get on a bull yeah and if you watch him fight later on
this guy when we're later on tonight when you go home jimmy because whatever look up just look up
this guy on youtube and just pick out any fight and watch it just just pick it out and you will
not stop watching it because from the second the bell rings he never stops punching it is a fucking
flurry of beating and then the other guy to either keep up or be pummeled has to do the same so it is a fucking flurry of beating and then the other guy to either keep up or be pummeled
has to do the same so it is just it looks like rocky it's two dudes beating the shit out of
each other i did a lot of dangerous shit when i was a kid but i never did any of it because i was
afraid to get hurt that's because it was fun yeah this guy's like not get hurt yeah this guy was a
thrill to get away with it when not getting hurt like he beat the you know he beat the bull yeah that's he's got no physical fears let's see later on in high
school he uh was what was called a slow learner at the time uh he actually did graduate high school
with help also from uh the a lot of the boxing community there that would help him like his
trainers and stuff or making telling him to go to school and shit like that.
Things that his mother wasn't really doing.
Because he said that his mother would just tell him constantly that he was going to end up like his brother in prison.
She'd just tell him that all the time.
I don't even know why you're bothering.
You're just going to be in prison anyway.
She'd tell him shit like that.
Yeah, his mom wasn't the most supportive person in the world.
No, no.
Everything he says and everything that his family says and the evidence of his life.
Just not that supportive.
More supportive than his father, who he didn't meet until later on.
At least she was fucking there.
Who knows him?
She was providing a roof or a doorway.
Maybe he requires that kind of motivation of negative, you know what I mean?
It worked.
I mean, he was great.
Yeah.
The best at what he was doing.
That's right he said though while this was going on and he was trying to prove her wrong and he was going to school in boxing he was also a total delinquent he said too and he would uh
they would he would just roll drunks for fun is the way he put it so she was right yeah she was
kind of right at the same time and uh you know in the end he didn't learn and keep remember this
and remember the number and remember exactly how this goes because it'll come back again.
He didn't learn his father's identity till he was almost 17.
Didn't know who his father was.
It turned out that he knew the guy his whole fucking life.
Just didn't know what it was.
His dad out of here knew him his whole life.
Yeah.
Just guy from that is awful.
That's the worst.
Oh, that's the worst.
Yeah.
But if you don't meet like you didn't meet
your dad till you were 28 had no idea where the fuck he was or what he looked like if it was a
guy that you knew your whole life oh my god your neighbor that you'd be like what the fuck the guy
that we would get pastrami from or something you would be so angry at that how mad how mad would
you be at that we saw him every week this guy jesus i called him a jerk off i don't know he was my dad remember i
put i picked tomatoes off and threw him in his fucking head jesus christ i ate his house last
halloween we did the poop in the back trick remember that it was funny he fell for it hard
he was all over his work he was like these fucking dogs goddamn kids oh no it's a dog
so yeah so it's this guy he said he was absolutely
fucking devastated by this i would i can't imagine was horrified by it and he that was
when he really laid into his mom let his mom know it was up yeah and uh told him that he was you
know basically he was through with her at this point in time for doing this to him even though
this guy could have told him too i don't know if it's not yeah who do you blame it's not it's not 100 positive whether he knew it was his
kid we don't know that part of the story he might have known and he might be or he might not have
because it's never really said exactly i don't know 17 i think he knows who he is probably but
you never know i mean who knows if you know let mom. Let's say you had a sexual relationship with your ex and didn't get married to her.
You'd ask.
And she got pregnant.
And you're working somewhere and she pops in quite frequently with this kid that, you know, kind of looks like you.
I don't think they were ever together, though.
It was just like they were kind of a hangout hookup type of thing.
All right.
You know, and it was one of those.
It was more casual than that.
I feel like it may have been others type of deal.
But I feel like he would have known by the time he was 17.
Yeah, that's my point.
Something would have come up.
Because if your ex is dragging your little guy around
and you see him, I can see you in it.
I can see your face in his face.
You talk to him.
Yeah.
Mannerisms.
You've noticed some shit.
You're very much like me.
That's super weird.
You have the same nose.
How odd is that?
I did once put my bone in your mom.
That's weird. So by that the same nose. How odd is that? I did once put my bone in your mom. That's weird.
So by that time, he moves out of her house, and he's living with one of his friend's families that took him in.
He also basically lives at the gym is his whole thing.
It's the Cincinnati's Emanuel Community Center.
And that's where the boxing gym is.
And that's where he spends most of his time.
Basically goes to his friend's house to sleep,
get right back up in the morning,
does his running heads to the gym there all day long.
Okay.
Uh,
yeah,
he loved it.
Uh,
he says,
cause he's only five,
six.
Really?
He is five,
six and,
and,
uh,
yeah,
five,
six,
135 pounds.
Fuck you up.
I don't feel you.
Vicious.
His nickname is the Hawk. Oh, as a fighter, which the feel you vicious his nickname is the hawk oh as a
fighter which the only other hawk i know is well there's a few but andre dawson was the other big
hawk and as big as he is i think aaron prior'd still kick his fucking ass and keep this nickname
andre dawson was the hawk how did i not know that i don't know i loved that guy yeah he was the hawk
okay also uh connie hawkins he was probably the hawk yeah what was it i think they they called Harrelson the old Met guy from the 60s the Hawk, too.
There's a bunch of Hawks.
Hawk's a good name.
Yeah.
It's a solid name.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's arm wrestling Sylvester Stallone.
Yeah.
It's a solid name.
Sure is.
You hear Hawk, you think, that's a man.
Right.
That's a dude right there.
He's tough.
Or he's a military guy.
Rip your shit and arm off is what I'm getting at.
That's the point.
Fucking A-Will.
Fucking A-Right. You won't have a prayer in off is what i'm getting at that's the point and i will fucking a right you won't have a prayer in vegas is what i'm getting at
i love making references no one understands
two people are like i know that it's a great movie it's great it's terrible but i love it
so yeah he's too small for football he said obviously too short for basketball. That wasn't a thing.
He wasn't a real fast guy on his feet, so his track wasn't an option.
He said boxing was the only thing he could really do,
and he had lots of aggression and quick hands and no fear.
None.
He just comes in swinging.
He has the most exciting fighting style you've ever seen in the ring.
His fights look like staged fights in movies where you're like,
nobody fights like that. In boxing, you dance a little and you throw jabs and you feel each other out and and
and you know in movies it's just bam bam everybody's throwing bombs in his fights it's just
two dudes dropping bombs incredible it's all it is it's fun as fuck so uh yeah he says uh everybody
quickly saw his potential and said that he looked like, you know, the best prospect in 20 years coming out of Cincinnati.
He looked great.
A professional fighter who's a friend of his and at the time kind of was at the gym at the same time as him says,
quote, Aaron was a natural.
He could stay up all night with a girl and come in the next day and work out like nothing happened.
The only problem anybody ever had with him back then was getting him out of the gym.
Yeah.
So that's it. He just, it's all he was interested in. And then, you know, girls him back then was getting him out of the gym yeah so that's it he just it's all he was interested in and then you know girls but then you go right
back in the gym they said he wouldn't even drink a coke he wouldn't even have a soda because he
said it was like acidic and it wasn't good for it wasn't good for his balance it just wouldn't it
wouldn't help him as a fighter so why drink it is what he said he works out all day and then he goes
and works on his stamina and comes right the fuck back. That's it. Comes right back in there, ready to work in the morning.
In his amateur career, he had 220 fights.
My fuck.
So let's add up.
Guys, don't do this anymore.
Let's add up the brain damage.
Over 220 fights.
Let's start with that.
Oh, boy.
And a lot of those are headgear, like the golden gloves and shit, but you're still getting punched in the fucking face.
Your brain's still getting rattled.
And 1973 equipment wasn't that wonderful either.
I can't imagine.
Not good.
204 wins and 16 losses as an amateur, which is amazing.
That's ridiculous.
That's ridiculous.
He said he got the nickname The Hawk, quote, because I swooped down on my opponents.
That's because he's dropping bombs.
I don't know where he got that.
It's weird because one of his best friends' last name is Hawk.
And everybody calls him Hawk.
And then they call him Hawk.
So they call both Hawk?
It's Hawk and Hawk.
Oh, Jesus.
Or they could be Hawk and Son Trucking Company.
Yeah.
Again.
Very similar.
So he wins the National AAU Lightweight Championship in 1973.
1974, he's got a son. Jesus. Steven. Oh. So that's good. Wins the National AAU Lightweight Championship in 1973.
1974, he's got a son.
Jesus.
Steven.
Oh.
So that's good.
Steven.
Steven.
That's promising.
At least it's not Aaron Jr.
Yeah.
So that's good.
He wouldn't want to name anybody after him because he doesn't know where the fuck his name's from.
Well, let's see.
Let's find out.
Oh, boy.
Let's see if when he gets some pride in him, let's see how he starts feeling about his name.
In 1975, he won the AAU lightweight championship again and a silver medal at the Pan American Games.
How about that?
He lost to a Canadian guy named Chris Clark that year.
1975, he's the United States Golden Gloves champion at his weight class, which is insane.
1976, United States Golden Gloves champion his weight class. is insane 1976 united states golden gloves champion his weight class this dude's nasty uh he beat thomas hearns in uh who is one of my favorite fighters at all if you
want to watch the greatest fucking three minutes in boxing ever watch haggler hearns look it up
it's two badass dudes beating the shit out of each other till one of them can't stand up anymore it's
amazing it's the reason you've heard of Hagler and Hearns.
It's amazing.
I love Hagler and I love Hearns.
They're both just,
God damn it,
fighters were so awesome in the fucking 70s and 80s.
Those fights were great.
You could name 50 amazing fighters
from a five-year period.
Now I can't name three fighters.
I can't name three boxers.
Now there's a Russian guy.
There's a dude who was undefeated, but something happened to him know there's a russian guy uh there's a a dude who was
undefeated but something happened to a lot of central american ones yeah now there's a couple
americans but it's not even who the fuck knows eastern europe oh you're talking about heavyweights
too heavyweights i can't name any divisions fucked but even the lightweights i mean the
lightweight division was still good until 2000 mid-2000s i mean it was still the 90s was a good 80s and 90s
and with delahoy and trinidad and vargas and all those guys they had her it was fun mosley and good
times there but uh thomas hearns is a bad motherfucker anyway this was in the lightweight
finals of the 76 uh national golden gloves but then he lost to howard davis jr a fucking junior steps in at the 1976 olympic
trials and so he ended up being a part uh a uh an alternate in the 76 olympic games okay so he
almost got made it to the olympics right to the end there in montreal yeah that year gold medals
were won by sugar ray leonard oh and uh michael and leon spinks how about that leon spinks who
beat uh muhammad ali and michael spinks who got knocked out in 90 seconds in spectacular fashion and Michael and Leon Spinks. How about that? Leon Spinks, who beat Muhammad Ali,
and Michael Spinks, who got knocked out in 90 seconds in spectacular fashion by Mike Tyson
after he was undefeated,
and everyone said he was going to beat Mike Tyson,
and it didn't work out that way.
The Spinks were great fighters all around.
Yeah, I don't think they're related to the Spinks.
No?
How about that?
I don't think they're related.
How about that?
To be that great at the same time and not...
One sounds like an investment banker, and the other one can't speak English barely, so I'm going to say they're probably great at the same time and not one sounds like an investment banker and
the other one can't speak english barely so i'm going to say they're probably not from the same
family just one of those things are probably not brothers if one's like well sir i'll i'm not gonna
fall for the banana in the tailpipe and then the other guy is you know fucking just guys like that
but the other guy has no teeth leon spinks had like one tooth over here like at one point the
cops were looking for him and they had this is a leon spinks thing like one tooth over here like at one point the cops were looking for him
and they had this is a leon spinks thing we'll probably do an episode one day but the cops were
looking for him and they had they had found in the hotel that he ran away from he had left his
his fucking teeth and his and his watch so the the cops put out a thing in the press that hey
leon we have your teeth so if you want your back, turn yourself in and we'll fucking give you your teeth back.
So I'm like, that's good leverage.
You can't eat anything until you turn yourself in.
One won't fall for the banana in the tailpipe and the other one will eat the banana in the tailpipe.
Yeah, he'll eat the tailpipe.
Because that's all he can eat.
He's like, I don't know.
Looks good to me.
He doesn't care.
He's been hitting that a lot.
So, yeah, he returns to cincinnati uh he doesn't even
know if he's going to keep boxing after he lost that olympic trial because he feels like it's over
he's like well that's it i blew my shot i guess i'm i guess i'm done yeah and what am i going to
do now muhammad ali's from louisville right yeah he's from louisville so that's why yeah that makes
more sense too oh yeah oh he's right there absolutely he would be in that area hometown
and it's probably
bananas up there oh i would think how much they loved him especially if you were from that area
and black and in the 60s he's got to be the i mean for everybody he's a fucking hero but i mean if
you were a black kid you had to be like that because i would love he looks i would have been
like awesome he's fucking awesome every kid should have liked him black or white or anything any kid
would have thought he was cool if they were like, you know.
I don't know kids that are.
Dicks?
Well, I don't know a lot of kids that are super conservative at eight years old either.
They're more like, that guy's cool.
I don't think they really care about his political views.
He really shouldn't be a showboat like that either.
A lot of people didn't like Muhammad Ali.
He was, you know.
Loud.
In the Frazier fight, he's the villain.
Yeah.
You know, they always make him the villain.
Sure.
Because, you know. Because he's loud. He's loud he's loud he was very he was he's loud he was muslim he didn't
want to he wouldn't fucking participate in war all the opinions yeah the people who were like
pro-vietnam just hated everything he was about and uh that's why he didn't box for years and
makes so much sense robbed of his fucking prime that's a bummer yeah that is a bummer so uh yeah so he
ended up uh you know coming back home and he at the airport but meet it to meet his plane is his
one friend ken hawk the other hawk uh he he had a 20 foot sign with him that said welcome home
aaron you're still my champ which is sweet as shit i gotta say that's nice also stiff sign or is it very odd
is it like flimsy where he's got to hold one side and he's like hold on don't get off the plane yet
i feel like it's a dot matrix printer paper just as long hold on a minute sir excuse me do you
speak in can you hold pick yeah hold it up hold that that side. It says champ. Two seconds. Aaron, look.
Okay, come out now.
Okay, come on.
So, yeah, so that's his amateur career.
So he ends up saying, fuck it, I guess I have to go pro.
He's sucked into that.
People are like, it's not over.
You just start fighting for money now.
And he's like, oh, all right.
Oh, I can do that. I can do that, I guess.
Yeah, I got nothing better to do.
So November 12th, 1976 in Cincinnati, his hometown, which most of his fights take place
in Cincinnati.
If he can fight in Cincinnati, he hometown, which most of his fights take place in Cincinnati.
If he can fight in Cincinnati, he does.
He likes it.
He fights Larry Smith, who is just as nondescript as his name.
He's a former kickboxer.
This is also his boxing debut.
Really?
So zero and zero.
Larry Smith ends up 0 and 8 in his career.
So maybe go back to him.
Maybe find another discipline.
Tread judo next or something.
But this isn't working. TKO in round two one and oh for aaron he made four hundred dollars that match wow his first match he makes 400 bucks to beat the hell out of larry so take that larry so a few
days later he finds a manager he signs a managerial contract with a uh a guinea named buddy la rosa
yeah so yeah if you're an up-and-coming boxer you
find yourself a guinea to manage you back then and uh this guy was the owner of la rosa's pizzeria
okay that's this guy's where he gets his money now unbelievable la rosa's pizzeria is that the
place we got the fucking pizza from at bogart's when we went there last year and did the live
show because if it is it is the worst pizza in the country it may have been i don't know if it was but if it was larosa's
whatever's near bogarts where we got is the worst pizza in the united states trust me because i have
a thing where like we go all over the country i always get pizza because it's the thing it's easy
it's the thing least likely likely to poison you fuck easy i'm not it's there's hardly anything to
mess up it's cooked to shit. Your body digests it.
Well, it's fine.
It's very easy.
We get that.
It was the worst pizza in the United States.
If it's that pizza.
If not, I apologize.
But if it is fucking avoid that.
It may not still be open.
It is because it's a chain of pizzerias serving tons of Cincinnati, Greater Dayton, Central
Ohio, Northern Kentucky, Southeast Indiana,
and Central Tennessee.
Oh, my God.
It's founded in 1954.
This guy bought his partners out.
They also have the exclusive pizza
that's served at the Coney Island Amusement Park,
at the Cincinnati Zoo,
at all the shit like that,
at the ballpark that the Reds play in,
the Great American Ballpark.
This dude's a player in the pizza game.
Now he's going to be a player in the boxing game.
So they call him in the paper, quote,
Cincinnati Pizza King Buddy La Rosa,
which is amazing.
He manages him.
He said that Pryor had the ability to be a boxer
and also just a straight brawler.
He said, quote, he was a finisher,
and that's not a bad thing.
When Aaron would get his opponent in trouble, that's when you saw the Tasmanian devil.
He was like a shark, man.
He'd be on you, and you'd think, wow, he's really attacking this guy.
And then you'd see the guy kind of cover up for a second, a shot hurt him,
and then that's when he would double speed.
Now he's really trying to get you.
He would smell blood.
He's nasty.
So La Rosa said at this point when he's boxing, he said you. He would smell blood. He's nasty. So La Rosa said
at this point when he's boxing, he said, quote, he wasn't a kid anymore. He was 21 years old by then,
but you could see he was special. He had something. I think you could hit Aaron with a baseball bat
and he might blink an eye. I remember taking him to a dentist one time and he had all his teeth
then and we had to extract one. The dentist took an x-ray and said to me afterward
look at that jaw structure just look at this and it was unbelievable built like a mac truck he was
what kind of jaw structure do you have to make a dentist take another person aside to share your
personal medical records with them for us a dentist to where he's like come here for a minute
to violate doctor patient privilege well i mean he might have asked do you mind if i show this guy
i see that you are not his parent uh but i would really love to show you how amazing this is and
it also stinks of like you you bought this young man right i hope so because he's got a good jaw
on him it's gonna be strong for you i want to show you something careful of all my jizz all over
yeah pardon me i did i did jizz there's a puddle over here. A little bit on the picture. So February 1st, 1977 is the second fight, also in Cincinnati, versus Larry Moore.
He will fight anyone in the state of Ohio named Larry.
I'll take on all comers.
Bring it, Larry, you fucking bitch.
Anybody named Larry.
All Larrys.
He's conquering a beef as a kid.
Somebody named Larry picked on him.
Larry's 15 and 13, coming in 17 and 28 for his career.
TKO in round three for Aaron.
Brings him to 2-0 February 24th.
So we won't go through every single fight.
He's got 40 fights.
So at the beginning, we'll just breeze through these kind of close-up ones to give you a portrait of brain damage.
And then we'll concentrate on the big fights and guys with hilarious names.
And all the Larrys.
And anybody named Larry.
Larry is named.
And Larry.
Hilarious.
So he's 2-0.
February 24, 1977 in Cincinnati, he branches out to people not named Larry
and fights Harvey.
He's looking for a Harvey now.
Harvey the Candyman Wilson.
Jesus. It's because he gave candy to the spectators as he came to the ring. He's looking for a Harvey now. Harvey the Candyman Wilson.
It's because he gave candy to the spectators as he came to the ring.
That's not true.
I don't know why the fuck he's the Candyman, because he's so sweet.
6-23-1 for the Candyman. I think he should try giving his opponent some candy and maybe soften him up a little.
6-37-1 for his career.
So not great.
This is a first-round TKO.
Aaron eats this guy up like candy.
So 3-0.
He was a giant pixie stick, and Aaron just snorted him.
3-0 for Aaron.
March 12, 77, two and a half weeks later,
Lincoln Heights, Ohio versus Nick Willis,
who's 0-5 coming in, and he'll be 0-13 for his career.
First-round knockout, 4-0 for Aaron.
So one of his trainers here later on said,
quote, the badder the guy was, the more Aaron wanted to stop him.
You've got some guys who wilt under the pressure,
but Aaron got stronger under pressure,
and he would get to the point where he actually drooled.
He actually drooled at the mouth.
That much animal instinct would come out of him. You could see stuff dripping from his mouthpiece gross because he was so he was a
fucking he's like a shark or like a some kind of he'd get in the ring and turn into another thing
he was like the tasmanian devil that's what he looked like a human version of that yeah just
that mannerism the badder the guy the worse he got tell me about how bad he was when he beat the
shit out of a dude that ended oh yeah exactly
real bad ended him in the second round for christ first round mauled him like a fucking bear
so march 26 77 that's two weeks later in cincinnati fights isaac vega who is uh he wanted
to fight him because that's his dad's name he's a bastard. He's just settling scores. Oh, and oh, coming in debut for this guy.
Never fought before.
And then this lunatic tornadoes coming at you.
Twelve and twelve career.
So he turns into kind of a half ass journeyman.
Second round knockout five and oh for Aaron.
Now, May 777.
This is a different kind of fight here.
He fights a guy.
It's in Cincy.
He fights Jose Resto who is uh 1362
and eight coming in my god that's a veteran yeah that's a guy who knows really good at getting his
ass kicked exactly that's a guy who against a young fighter will know how to give him trouble
though and know how to it's a guy who knows how to stay alive okay it's a guy who probably if he
can still walk and talk and tie his shoes yeah he
probably knows how to go the distance and not get hit too hard right and uh also not hit you very
hard he's like homer simpson when he was in his boxing career probably he finishes his career
13 73 and 8 golly the last 28 fights of his career he was 0 27 and one why would you bother why what are you doing i guess money if you need the
cash but jesus christ man lord his last loss was to a guy named lou bizarro and i swear bizarro
like bizarro superman right so lou bizarro so i'm like who the fuck is lou bizarro i gotta i gotta
find out who lou bizarro is right so i find this. He's the funniest man I've ever seen, Jimmy.
He's a little guinea with a mustache.
Of course he is.
And his name is Luigi Bizarro.
His name's Luigi Bizarro, Jimmy.
That's his real name.
He's from Italy.
That is awesome.
Luigi Bizarro, he'll fight you tomorrow.
He's fucking Luigi Bizarro.
What the hell kind of fight is that
how did they
how did they get Waluigi
out of in Mario Brothers
why didn't they just name him fucking Luigi Bizarro
if you put
a Luigi hat on this guy he's fucking Luigi
that's the thing it's amazing
Luigi Bizarro
he comes in
that's incredible.
You know, I fight with the guy.
He comes in and we punch a punch.
Hey, Luigi Bizarro.
Hey, nice to meet you.
I feel like he's very friendly.
It's Luigi Bizarro.
Every fight, though.
Ah, he beat me again.
Oh, no.
I get beat up every time.
He's a drooling and a punching me.
I don't know why he's a punching me.
For me.
Please, stop a punching me.
Oh, no.
It's so sad.
He's a human being, though.
A real man.
Luigi Pizarro.
This is a real man.
This is a real person who's a public person who went out 33 times in public and fought
professionally and won 31 of the fights.
That's amazing.
He finishes his career 31-2, Luigi Bizarro.
Why did he quit?
Well, because he went all eight against Aaron Pryor, too.
Or, no, I'm sorry.
Luigi Bizarro just 31-2, and that was the end of it.
Why would he do that?
You know, I opened up a nicer place.
I get enough money.
You know, there's a neighborhood I need. I need a place to buy
the slice. I make them nice pies and I
throw it up into the air. People can see me toss
it in the door. They toss it, toss it. You know, it's
a sea. The shawarma man down in the street.
I got my pies. It's fine.
We compliment each other menu. We compliment
it's nice. You get the shawarma. Maybe someone
want a pie. So I say, maybe not a
whole pie. Maybe I sell it by the slice. You know,
you have that. You have a shawarma. I give you by the slice all right so yeah 31 pizza king
only sells them by the whole oh he does not fucking around he's that's why he's the pizza king right
luigi bizarro's like hey maybe somebody wanted a slice maybe it's just to you let me ask you
who who is it luigi bizarro to tell you maybe you have a whole pie when you don't want the whole pie
you want it just a slice luigi bizarro say you have have a whole pie when you don't want the whole pie? You want just a slice?
Luigi Bizarro say, you have a slice.
Why not?
You want to punch a Luigi Bizarro in the face?
I take.
I fight 33 times.
I do okay.
I only lose two.
I lose in two fights.
And one of them, unfortunately, was with my waistline.
That's why I just say, I'm going to sell by the slice now.
So Luigi Bizarro has nothing to do with the story, but that's hilarious.
He is great.
So this goes all eight rounds, though.
This is his first non-knockout win here, Aaron Pryor.
It was a unanimous decision for Aaron, but he couldn't quite get the guy to fall.
6-0 in September of 77.
He fights at the Drawbridge Inn in Covington, Kentucky, which sounds terrible.
Right by the airport.
Cincinnati.
You know what, Cincy?
We liked you.
We went there.
It was a great show.
Great place.
Get your own fucking airport.
What the fuck?
Why am I flying into another state?
Why am I flying into rural Kentucky to go to a goddamn city?
What's happening here?
It's another state, and it's not even like part of the city.
No.
It's the woods, and it smells like sulfur. It's another state, and it's not even like part of the city. It's the woods, and it smells like sulfur.
And then it's weird.
There is a patch of zero civilization between the airport and a giant city.
It's weird.
What the fuck is happening?
Yeah.
He fights Melvin Young, who's 0-1 coming in, and 0-10 for his career.
So knocks him out 7-0.
In October, he fights Johnny Summerhays, That sounds like somebody from the Great Gatsby.
Or a type of weed.
Yes.
Somebody who's a Gatsby character.
It's Johnny Summerhays.
He comes.
Or, yeah, I'd smoke the Summerhays.
Ooh, that's the Summerhays.
That shit's good.
You better be careful with that.
That's the Summerhays.
Citrusy, though.
It's good.
This guy's got 40, 22, and 3 for his career another unanimous
decision this one goes the the limit 8 and 0 for for aaron november of 77 he fights angel
cintron he's 2 and 16 coming in 2 and 19 for his career knocks him out 9 and 0 for aaron
january of 78 he fights oh this is good he fights robert the tiger uh tiniera yeah so he is 2 and He fights Robert the Tiger Chiniera.
So he is 2-9 coming in, and he ends up 2-16 for his career.
So the Tiger, not well here.
TKO round two, 10-0.
Next, he fights in 78.
He fights in Dayton, Ron Pettigrew, who's a journeyman, 11-49-5 for his career.
Knocks him out in the second round.
March 10th, 78, he fights in Cincy again.
Al Franklin, who's a 43-40-4 fighter.
And then he quit finally when he got to 43-43-4.
He's like, I can't have more losses than wins.
I'm done.
I quit.
He does get knocked out by Aaron Pryor here in the third round.
12-0.
And then May 2nd, 78, he's down in Miami Beach.
Hell yeah. third round 12 and 0 and then uh may 2nd 78 he's down in miami beach hell yeah adventure outside of the the kentucky the trial what is that little triangle there uh i don't know the kentucky
anna whatever the fuck area i don't know indiana and all that shit's in there is it kentucky anna
something no i've heard people say that but i don't know where what part of that that is i have
no clue don't look at me i know nothing geography. I only know that right across the river, we did that episode of Small Town Murder by Edgewater.
It's right across from Cincinnati.
So Scotty Foreman here is an 8-3 coming in.
He gets knocked out anyway.
It doesn't matter.
Scotty Foreman?
Scotty Foreman getting knocked out.
Yeah, in South Beach.
Scrappy Scotty getting knocked out in South Beach there.
13-0.
1978, a son is born for Aaron.
He has a son, Aaron jr oh god oh yeah
number two let's do this aaron jr now he's feeling better about him so he's 13 and oh
oh that first baby feels like shit though yeah you're like oh no we'll just name him steven but
13 and oh aaron jr absolutely that's we'll put a belt across his little waist so he's crazy he
has no idea who the fuck he is or nope he's from, and he's naming a kid.
Naming a kid.
He ends up with like four kids, possibly five, all different mothers, of course, obviously.
Great.
So, yeah, he's Aaron Jr. here.
So, right away, this is the point where we should have really called Grace right before that.
We should always call Grace right before they name their kid Jr.
That should be the new rule.
So, July 1878 in Dayton, he fights Marion Tiger Thomas.
Anybody in Ohio named Larry or Tiger, I'll fight anybody.
That's true.
Two of his last four fights have been against Tiger.
What the fuck is this?
38-20-1 for that guy.
Knocks him out in the eighth round, 14-0.
March 8th.
14 fights, three of them are fights. Three of them are Larry.
Three of them.
Larry's and Tiger's.
That's all he's got.
Anybody named Larry, Tiger, step it up, bitches.
Insane.
I'm the toughest fucking guy named Aaron in the whole state.
So, yeah, it's July, March 1679.
He fights.
This is an amazing guy here.
And since he fights, ah, Jesus, Irish Johnny Copeland.
Oh, boy. which is terrible they might as well just call him white johnny copeland because he's just the fucking whitest guy you're ever
gonna find he just looks like just a not a boxer we'll just put it that way his hair his mustache
none of it is good when anybody tags irish on anything we get it. Yeah. Especially in boxing. That just means
white people
root for him
because he's
we're telling you
he's white.
That's what it is.
See?
He's Irish.
Well, as promised.
There he is.
There he is.
It's all Irish.
37-31-1
for old Irish
white Johnny here.
Gets knocked out
in the seventh round
and stumbles back
in a Guinness haze
to the dressing room.
And it doesn't matter anyway.
15 and 0 for Aaron.
So April 13th, 1979 in Cincy, he fights Stormin Norman Goins.
Really?
Stormin Norman.
Jesus Christ.
He's 22 and 10 coming in.
So he's been storming at least 22 people.
He's doing all right.
26 and 15 for his career.
He knocks Stormin Norman out in the ninth, bringing him to 16 and 0.
And later on, Aaron would say that Norman,
Storm and Norman had the best defense of anyone he ever fought.
Really?
He said, a guy I always remember is Norman Goins from Indianapolis.
He was the one who was consistent.
He was an international boxer as an amateur.
We fought in 73 in Denver at the Golden Gloves.
He was one of the only guys who hit me and hurt me,
and they stopped the fight. I was only 16, and and he was 20 he hurt me with a body shot so when i was 20 and he
was 24 we fought again in cincinnati and i knocked him out in the ninth round all that is true except
for that he was not 20 he they were 24 and 28 he had his years way the fuck off but that's fine
you know whatever close enough i guess he's recalling through cocaine and, you know, what many lost brain cells from both drugs and punching.
You know, they go quick.
So, April 27, 79, he fights Freddie the Stepper Harris.
I guess he'll step to you.
I don't know what the fuck he is.
I think I know what it is because he's 5'3".
Oh, boy.
So, I think he steps on shit.
The stepper.
Yeah, he'll step up and punch you in the face, apparently.
So the stepper here is...
Because the stepladder stings too hard.
Yeah.
Freddy needs a stepladder.
Harris is a little too mean.
Is that too mean?
Is that bad?
He's been hit so many times, he doesn't even realize that he's being called stepstool.
Nope.
I'm the stepper.
Why?
I don't know.
Everybody's giggling.
Somebody get me the stepper.
I got to change a light bulb.
Come on.
17 and 32 for a career for the stepper.
He gets knocked out in the third round.
17 and 0 for Aaron.
At this point, Sugar Ray Leonard comes to town.
And he is in need.
He's in Cincinnati and in need of a
sparring partner okay so uh at this point aaron pryor is the choice here for sugar ray because
he's also a southpaw and he's training to fight a lefty so you know that's the other thing aaron's
a nut and he fights like that and he's a southpaw so his style is the most unconventional you just
if you're a fighter you could fight 50. You're never going to fight another wild swinging lefty like him.
Most of the lefties are more,
they seem to be a little more technical than this.
So anyway, yeah, he was a great amateur,
and he just missed the Olympic team,
so this was a good sparring partner for Sugar Ray.
He said, quote, this was a guy who was a trainer of Pryor's.
He said, Ray had been shadow boxing,
and he worked up a good sweat. We called
Aaron and when he arrived I told him to warm
up but he refused because he
wanted to quickly get in the ring with Ray.
Right now.
I don't have time for that. World class fighter, Olympic
gold medalist, I don't need to warm up for him?
I don't know about that. Ray was warmed
up and Aaron was still cold but they went
to war. He was in there with his jeans on
with his fucking work boots or something.
I guess this was Sugar Ray was undefeated and he was about to become champ to prior was also seven pounds lighter than him at the time.
So Sugar Ray's got every advantage possible here.
And the trainer said, quote, It was a fantastic sight to see Ray at his peak.
And Aaron was coming into his own.
And Aaron had something to prove because he didn't make the Olympic team.
Apparently, they were just bombing on each other.
Sugar Ray controlled it in the early goings with a lot of jabs.
And he was a really fancy boxer.
So he was nasty.
And he knocked Pryor down in the second round.
They said, but quote, quote, but Aaron quickly got up from that knockdown and the tide turned in his favor.
Aaron was getting the best of Ray in the third round.
And that's when Ray's trainer, Jenks Morton, said the session was over.
So how about that?
He'll you can't defend this onslaught for.
That's the thing is like most guys you'd see like Tyson come out and bombing on people in the first round.
But eventually it kind of gets more into a boxing match if the guy can last.
This guy could keep that pace up for 15 rounds.
He could just swing constantly, never stop, and never get tired for 15 rounds.
You can't defend that.
You can do it for a few rounds, but after that it's going to get through.
It's like Tyson's punch out.
Right.
The mental toll on it alone, it beats you.
And then you you
got to deal with pain too that's the thing remember the indian guy in punch out and you had to cover
while he did the little thing and disappeared and then showed up and then hit you and you had to
cover right he did it like three times you could do it if he did that 20 times he'd start getting
you eventually you'd fuck up the timing something would be off and yeah so it's one of those things
so uh he said that uh the first time
this is sugar ray leonard here the first time i saw him i thought he was a crazy fuck that's what
he says about him aaron was there among the top fighters during that time i don't care if aaron
was going to fight joe schmoe he still had a kamikaze mentality he had heart he fought with
conviction so that's it there uh next fight for him is against al ford if anybody needs a nickname
al ford tiger jesus may as well we'll call him tiger we'll call him al larry ford al larry tiger
ford come on in that sounds like a dealership uh he's 50 and 9 coming in wow not bad 55 19 and 0
for his career gets knocked out in the fourth round 18 18-0 for Aaron. A couple weeks later, he fights Jose Fernandez, who is 28-14-3 coming in.
This will be his last fight, as Aaron knocks him out in the first round, bringing him to 19-0.
He then fights Alfonso Peppermint Frazier, which is awesome.
So he's fought the Candyman, the Peppermint, two Larrys, a couple of Tigers, and an Al.
And a Melvin.
Who else?
An Irish and fucking a guy who fought Luigi Bizarro.
What is happening?
So anyway, Peppermint, that was 42-13-3 coming in,
so not a bad fighter.
He gets knocked out in the fifth round, 20-0 for Aaron.
20 fights now, and he's establishing himself.
Next fight's 1980 in February at the Tropicana in in vegas hell yeah finally getting out of the out of the cincinnati area he fights juan
garcia who is one and six in his career and one and eight to finish his career why does that guy
get to fight at the tropicana i don't know who he paid off or what who he pissed off i should say
to have to fight him and i don't know. But he got knocked out in the first round.
Of course.
This was just a display of look at what Aaron Pryor can do.
Isn't it fun?
One of those.
21-0.
Next, he fights in Miami two weeks later.
He fights Julio El Diablito Valdez.
Yeah.
So the little devil.
Yeah.
Yeah, little devil here.
Julio the little devil Valdez.
And he knocks the little devil out in the fourth round. Yeah him to 22 and 0 uh december 28th 1980 uh his fight he's got a fiance
yeah named theresa yeah now he's already been married and divorced quickly uh with his first
son and everything now he's got a fiance named theresa who shoots him with a 22. Oh my Jesus. So you, it's weird.
No matter how much you don't want to, you end up finding someone like your mom.
And that's what he did.
Why is he getting shot at?
Because he's drawn to women who shoot their boyfriends.
Who knows?
And he was probably beating her up the same way his stepfather's beating her.
Who knows?
Who the fuck knows?
But yeah, Teresa, it grazes his abdomen
my god and lodges in his forearm so jesus she almost hit him with a body shot like this was
crazy now this this woman's name is teresa adams when she's arrested she claims to be prior's wife
claims they were married in new orleans on november 25th and prior's attorney said they
didn't they're not married what are you talking about so they did a check of all the records and finally turned up no
marriage certificate uh so yeah they she said it was new orleans there was nothing filed there
she also said that her and prior were in the process of adopting a baby from the katherine
booth home for unwed mothers in cincinnati but the director of the of the home said we have no
knowledge of this at all so she is a straight up lunatic she shot him lied about being his wife
and then made up a baby like completely or every time he comes home and she's pissed off at him
he's like i'll marry you girl maybe he had some bullshit ceremony made maybe maybe filled out
paperwork that just threw away i would believe
what the new world the city where they were allegedly married has no record of their marriage
so they weren't married there they weren't married illegally anyway and this i would believe that
maybe they did some secret thing if the adoption agency lady said i don't know what you're talking
about i've never heard of this person uh she said that uh yeah they released her on bail and she's told the press yeah no that's my husband and we're adopting a baby and i was like no no no
uh but he still marries her what jesus god he says he doesn't wish to file charges and then
fucking marries her unbelievable you know what that's what it feels like to be your husband
i like it we're gonna do this i really like it you know i like it you know i love stings a little you know i feel like you love me i could
feel it in my arms you feel it my abdomen and forearm in every just feel it i feel like you
love me that's but i mean that's one of those things maybe he needs that to to feel a relationship
he's got to get shot at once in a while and really get it going hit hit oh no yeah hit oh yeah grazed especially if
it hits your arm you're like i need those like you know what the fuck here so april 13th 1980
he goes to kansas city and fights leonidas uh mano de herrero yeah uh esperia so yeah 17 and
one coming in and uh 21 8 and 3 for his career he gets a TKO in the 10th round, 23 and 0 for old Aaron fucking 22 in his forearm and all.
Why would you marry the person who shot you?
I can't.
What is happening now?
So, buddy DeRosa.
This is a little about Aaron, a little kind of side shit on him in the ring.
Once you get him in the ropes, he is 1000 in there but to actually
herd him places is not easy he's like a duckling to get him in the ropes wandering oh yeah because
he'll just wander off you got to find him no no in this way and once you get him in there oh i can
kill him okay great uh his buddy larosa said quote uh the guy likes a nice crispy pie no i'm just
kidding i didn't say anything about his pizza preferences. He said, quote, whenever he had to catch a flight,
I was in charge of getting him to the airport
and making sure he had what he needed.
One time he had to go to the airport and I wasn't around.
So he went to the airport, and as I heard the story from him,
and he had to leave his car at the curb.
He left it at the curb and told, I don't know who it was, the guy there,
quote, that's my car, I'll get it when I come back. That's not can't do that you just can't even in the 70s you can do that no just be
like well we don't know who you are right and you can't leave your car there holler at impound yeah
you could do the movie thing where you toss in the keys and go keep it yeah that's you could do that
80s movie another over the top reference jesus he gave away a like a toyota pickup at the airport so uh yeah there's
that's you can't do that no but that's the kind of guy he doesn't know how to do stuff like regular
life stuff that well uh which is not abnormal for our people no who we can that seems to be a
growing theme it's a it's a huge theme it's been growing for three years yeah the more as a child
you're trained to do one specific thing
the less you know how to do anything else in the world it's weird it's super weird yeah like i
remember reading uh when peyton manning was like in his third year in the nfl like he didn't know
how to like dress himself that makes sense like he was like i don't know what matches my girlfriend
has to lay my clothes out for me and i'm'm like, yeah, because he's just like, I never had to do it.
I don't know.
I don't care.
I just wore like a Tennessee polo.
That was my outfit.
It matches all jeans.
Every damn day.
That orange, boy.
It matches.
It goes with all jeans.
Volunteer orange.
That brownish orange stitching on the jeans matches just perfect.
It popped.
They never even know.
So he fights Carl Crawley next, who's 17 and 5.
Anyone in Ohio with 17 wins, every one of these guys, 17 wins named Larry or Tiger,
he will fight you.
God damn it.
24 and 19 for his career.
Knockout in the first round.
24 and 0 for Aaron.
He fights next.
This next one, though, is for the WBA World Super Lightweight title.
It's about time.
It's his title fight.
This is his 25th fight.
He fights Antonio Kid Pembele Cervantes.
And he has a lot of respect for this guy.
This guy is 87 and 10 coming in.
Oh, my God.
So, journeyman.
Bad motherfucker.
Why does that guy...
Why don't we know who that is?
That's what I mean.
With that many wins?
If you were a boxing fan back then, you'd know who he was, but he's not a guy who survived.
He's 91, 12, and 3 for his career.
That's outstanding.
It is, but it was before, I don't know, it's just he fell between the cracks.
And Aaron Pryor fell between, you never heard of Aaron Pryor?
And he's a fucking legend, that's what I mean.
This is a fourth round knockout for Aaron, 25 and 0.
His purse for this fight
is biggest so far 50 grand oh so not bad for 1980 yeah so that's a good deal uh now he says about
cervantes looking back on my career i would like to say a guy by the name of antonio cervantes
cervantes had 100 fights held the championship for about 10 years in separate reigns until he
fought me he knocked me down in the first round and I got back up and knocked him out.
I think Cervantes was one of the greatest I ever fought.
And that's the other thing, too.
Pryor will get knocked down once in a while,
because with his style, he'll catch one once in a while.
It's almost like off-balance knock him out, knock him down.
He'll get right back up again, though, and be wanting to fight.
So then he takes the belt, and he fights Danny Myers,
who's a goofy, blonde-looking guy.
He looks like fucking Mark Eaton, the old basketball player.
Yeah, he looks like Mark Eaton if you shrunk him and put boxing gloves on him.
Does that sound tough?
No.
Not against this guy.
Third round knockout, 26-0.
Two weeks later, he fights Gaetan Hart, who's a
very goofy, wool-looking white guy.
He's Canadian, and he looks like a moose.
His nose,
like the bridge of his nose,
starts over in the middle
of his eyes. He's one of these weird-looking...
Big, fat, wide nose.
He looks like a moose. I can't even explain him any other way.
We should post a picture. I'll try to remember
to post a picture on social media there. But he gets tko'd in the sixth round uh prior
makes a hundred thousand dollars for this fight now we're talking stepping it up yeah now in
december 1980 there's an offer on the table of five hundred thousand dollars to fight sugar ray
leonard for the wbc welterweight championship yeah uh. Pryor turns it down. Really?
Turns it down, says he wants more money.
Well, that's stupid.
Which is fair.
Well, I mean, I don't know what the economics of boxing was at that point. If Sugar Ray was making $8 million and he's making $500 grand,
I could see trying to get a little more out of him.
What year is this?
This is 1980.
Okay.
So there could be millions on the table.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
So especially for Sugar Ray, Olympic hero hero and that's a big fight.
So then they offer him
$750,000 and he
says, nope.
No thank you.
He instead signs to
fight WBC welterweight
champion Saul Mamby
in a unification bout for $1 million.
So he's going to get paid
here. They schedule it for February 7th, 1981, although the problem is the fight ends up falling through
and doesn't happen.
So then he doesn't get the Leonard fight or this fight.
No money.
No.
So the promoter, Harold Smith, disappears into hiding amid allegations that he was involved
in $21.3 million worth of fraud against Wells Fargo Bank.
Oh, what a dickhead.
So he just took off and everyone was calling him.
So, you know, we're getting the ring in on this day.
We're leaving him messages.
Are we going to?
What happened?
Eventually, they just didn't have the fight anymore because they couldn't find him.
His real name, the Smith guy, was Ross Fields.
And he's later sentenced to 10 years in prison after he's convicted of 29 counts of fraud and embezzlement.
Good Lord.
So, yeah, that's your typical fight promoter, basically.
I mean, it's, you know, fire festival.
Same thing.
Yeah, these guys are.
It is.
That's what he basically did.
He pulled a fire festival scheme with a fight.
So then Pryor is offered 750 grand.
How much people are offering me three quarters of a million dollars all over the place?
And he went from 100 grand to no to 750. No. One million. offered 750 grand. I wish people were offering me three quarters of a million dollars all over the place to fight people.
And he went from 100 grand to no
to 750, no, one million.
I'll do it.
I'll fight Sugar Ray Leonard
for 750 grand right now.
Yeah.
Next deal that we get,
we tell him,
multiply it by 10
and then we'll talk.
Sorry.
Yeah, I don't know.
They won't do it
and we'll end up with nothing.
We'll end up homeless.
Yeah, but it'll feel good to say.
If you can multiply that by 10, that'd be great. That'd be great. We won't. No? Okay, we'll end up with nothing. We'll end up homeless. Yeah, but it'll feel good to say.
If you can multiply that by 10, that'd be great.
That'd be great.
We won't.
No?
Okay, we'll take the original.
All right, well, you know, we'll talk about the first one then.
So, yes, $750,000 to fight Roberto Duran, who's a bad dude, in April of 81. But he turns it down because his new attorney told him not to sign anything until he had a new contract
with different cut of the pay worked out with manager Pizza King La Rosa.
By the time they worked out the agreement, the Duran fight was off the table and Duran
was fighting somebody else.
So he's blown.
We've seen him lose about $2.5 million in fights in just the last year.
That's not great.
in fights in just the last year.
Jesus.
That's not great.
June 27th, 81,
at the Hacienda Hotel in Vegas,
he fights Lennox Blackmore.
Oh, boy.
Who's... Yeah, that's...
If you were to give him like a...
If he was like a 90s action movie,
his name would be Lennox Blackmore,
and he'd just be like this tough black dude
because that's exactly what he looks like.
Yeah, that's more black.
Yeah, 23 and 2 coming in. TKO in the second round for lennox he's lennox fucking sleep more
that day uh gets knocked out november 14th 81 in cleveland he fights duan mr excitement johnson
how exciting is he he's excited 17 and 0 coming in yeah anyone with 17 wins he will fucking fight
you uh johnson knocks prior down in the first round.
Coming out storming, but Pryor comes back to eventually knock him out in the seventh
round.
29-0.
March 21st, 82 at the Playboy Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City.
That sounds sleazy.
Up there?
Good lord.
The Playboy Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City.
You know how much jizz is all over that place?
Oh, God.
The one in Vegas was dirty enough. Can you imagine AC jizz is all over that place? Oh, God. The one in Vegas was dirty enough.
Can you imagine AC?
Yeah.
With saltwater fucking residue all over everything, too?
Yeah.
And jizz?
Twice as much for a jizz-free room, it costs.
Would you like jizz or non-jizz?
Non-jizz?
Okay, that'll be twice as much.
It's like the smoking and non-jizz.
Yeah, it's just jizz or non-jizz.
How much jizz would you like in your room?
Would you like it lightly jizzed or would you like a full glaze?
What would you like?
Which room?
We have a plethora.
12th round knockout here.
30-0.
30-0 here.
So, Pryor then signs finally to face Sugar Ray Leonard.
This is going to be for the undisputed welterweight title in the fall of 82.
750 grand. same number.
But before fighting Pryor, Leonard first has to fight Roger Stafford in Buffalo.
The Sunday before the bout, Pryor is driving to Buffalo from Cincinnati to taunt Leonard and hype their planned bout.
Basically, he's going to go to the press conference and be like, you better get this punk out of the way because i'm going to kick your ass next and you know do
one of that shit so at this point while he's driving there prior hears on the car radio
that leonard suffered a detached retina in his left eye while sparring and the fights off that
motherfucker so he goes fuck he said a quote i pulled off to the side of the road and i cried
that's what aaron said i can't imagine Which I don't know how you wouldn't.
Yeah.
And Sugar Ray ended up retiring.
Because of that.
Yeah, he came back later on to fight Hagler and a bunch of other fights, but he ended
up retiring for a few years to have surgery and shit.
So instead, he has to, on July 4th, he has to fight, what a weird fight, Japanese guy
on the 4th of July, Akio Kameda, who's 17-0 coming in.
God damn it.
This is remarkable.
It's been like nine guys of 17 wins are named Larry or Tiger.
There's got to be a line that 17 is the minimum, right?
I don't know what it is.
It's so weird.
It's interesting.
27-4 coming in.
Just a weird anomaly of math.
I don't know.
Pryor knocked down in the first round
again but by the sixth round he knocks this guy down and then uh drapes his corpse with an american
flag and dances around his fallen yeah the fallen japanese foe we're six around tko 31 and 0 august
uh 1982 he has a another kind of fight a pater-oh. He's ready to throw down in court over paternity.
For Aaron Jr.?
No, different.
This is some other kid here.
God, Jesus.
A woman named Deborah Harris wins a 6-2 favorable decision from a Cincinnati jury that includes
five women in the jury and a special blood test in the paternity case.
This is pre-DNA, so it was a lot harder to determine paternity.
Basically, this is for her nine-year-old son, Antoine Toneli.
Antoine Toneli, so he's got almost the same middle name as Aaron here.
She said that it's his kid from nine years ago,
and that he deserves a share of his father's
wealth at this point so uh nine years that's she saw him on tv and was like oh shit yeah he did
something good i'm gonna sue this guy so i mean i don't know he didn't fucking take care of his
kid i guess yeah but i hate that phrase yeah that phrase alone shares father's wealth her being an
asshole yeah but she should also have paid for it.
She's right.
Yeah, she's right.
She could have put it better.
The share could be small.
She could have said he needs to take care of his kid.
Right.
And everyone would have went, yeah, he needs to put food on his kid's table.
Right.
Yeah, okay.
But share his father's wealth sounds bad.
It sounds like it's sharing it with her and not him.
So anyway, attorney here said, quote, the jury has made its determination.
Now it's up to the court to make a decision on how much he'll pay unless it's settled out of court.
They said that he's still denying it no matter what anyway.
And he still, regardless of what any court says, he says, it's not my kid.
Okay.
So he really, really need like a.
But they're making him pay anyway.
Yeah, they're making him pay.
Obviously, they really need somebody else's kid.
Absolutely. I'm so sad. I'm sorry he wasn't on the air back then because they could have really
settled this whole thing in dramatic fashion fucking dramatic fantastic fashion because she
would have been dancing in his face yeah or he's doing backflips she would have shot him who'd
have been great that is my favorite one like the guy when when oh god it's so funny the most horrible
thing in the world it's just the funniest thing. When it's not him.
And she runs off crying because she looks like an asshole now.
Well, it's only, okay, when it's only one guy and she thinks that's the kid's fault.
Then I feel bad for the girl.
Now she's like, oh, fuck, now what do I do?
When she comes back eight times?
When it's like, this is the sixth guy we've tested.
She runs off crying.
It's like, stop crying.
You were fucking going, you weren't like, I'm positive. What? Oh, stop crying. You were fucking going.
You weren't like, I'm positive.
What?
Oh, my God.
My shock to my system.
You were like, well, it's either him or the other one.
I don't know.
I'm running out of options here.
That's what you were doing.
Did you sit on a jizz puddle?
How did this happen?
No way I'm going to get him to come here.
He's not going to come here. So I hope it's this one.
So, yes, he's going to have to pay something. So I hope it's this one. So, yeah.
So he's going to have to pay something.
November 12th, 1982 at the Orange Bowl in Miami.
This is a giant venue, for Christ's sake.
He fights Alexis Arguello, who is a badass.
This guy, legendary fighter.
This fight is considered one of the top three fights of the 80s.
Really?
It was fight of the decade for a long time.
Yeah, it's one of the greatest fights of all time and i loved boxing what it's well it happened in 82 i mean we were both a little young for this but i was one but you still it's a
legendary fight you want to watch two guys bomb on each other for 14 rounds this is what you watch
this and aaron alexis and aaron here uh sounds like a girl fight it does alexis and aaron and
they're very upset with each other.
They're very drunk. They've had a bad
night and you know the
Uber's very late and it's
it's too late and
they've had an argument now.
Unless it pulls up in five minutes one of them's going to take their
shoes off and hit the other one with them. I would also
watch that fight. I want
to watch that fight more.
Someone's going to bleed in that fight even
if they don't hit each other someone's gonna fall down by accident get a bloody elbow and
remember how it happened the next day did we have an argument last night did i fall down
too much rose it's like in my forehead it's like the size of a high heel. It's about that size.
It's really weird.
A dent.
So Arguello is El Flaco Explosivo.
Oh.
That's a fucking name.
Explosive fat guy?
Explosive.
What is Flaco?
Flaco is fat, isn't it?
No, I think Flaco is like...
I think Flaco's fat.
Flaco is not fat, I don't think.
I think it is.
I don't know why he called himself the fat explosive. Explosive fat guy? Yeah, i don't think i think it is as i don't know why he called himself the fat
explosive yeah i don't think it is i think it's like uh whatever anyway 72 and 5 coming in this
guy so he's a badass prior makes 1.6 million dollars for this fight really this is his
fucking fight uh alexis here el flaco explosive makes 1.5 million. So Arguello is a 12-5 favorite.
Really?
So he is supposed to win.
He's supposed to be the guy that can tame Aaron Pryor.
It's like Pryor's been able to just overcome everybody, but this guy is a real boxer.
And he's also a tough guy.
You could hit him with a truck.
He's not going to go down.
Got it.
There's no way Pryor's going to beat this guy.
Gordo, fat.
There you go.
Flaco, skinny.
Skinny.
There you go.
So yeah, he's skinny and explosive. I should have known that. Now it. Flacco, skinny. Skinny, there you go. Skinny and explosive.
I should have known that.
That's you.
There you go.
He's you.
He's me.
Arguaio also is trying to become the first boxer to win titles in four weight divisions at the time.
He's a really legendary guy and the favorite.
This fight is a war.
A war for 14 rounds this is back when
there was 15 round title fights so i mean you want to see two guys in the most insane condition
a normal person you couldn't last one of these rounds just throwing the punches never mind
getting hit by the punches too so uh the end of the fight though is when things uh 14th round is
when things go a little controversial.
I guess Arguello lands a punch in the 13th round that seemed to get to prior a little bit here.
And Arguello was behind on the scorecards, but it looked like he might take the 13th.
And if he took the 14th and 15th, it could be he could get the decision here.
So between the 13th and 14th rounds this fights
on hbo the microphones pick up his trainer panama lewis who you might know as very much disgraced
and soon after this we'll have to go to prison for shit that he did in boxing he was the guy who uh
he a guy ended up uh you know hurting a person really really badly because he plastered his
his wraps and shit you son he was a cheating son of a bitch about he plastered his wraps and shit.
He was a cheating son of a bitch for Panama Lewis
and we'll do an episode on him one day.
I'll put it that way.
I think he killed a guy. I think one of the guys died
from one of these fights.
Panama Lewis, you can hear him over the microphone
telling the cut man,
because the guy goes to hand him the bottle,
the water bottle, and he waves it off and he says, give me the other, because the guy goes to hand him the bottle, the water bottle, and he says, waves it off, and he says, give me the other bottle, the one I
mixed.
That's what he says.
And then he squirts that.
It's a black bottle.
It's a different bottle.
It's a black colored bottle.
He squirts that into his mouth.
It's known as the black bottle incident.
It's a famous boxing controversy.
Basically, he was fading prior, and he came out in the 14th round like it was round one and he never had just fought for 13 rounds for Red Bull in him and just yeah.
And they said Argois was landing these square punches and wasn't even phasing.
Friars going right through him and blend it.
But like really like he gave him, you know, I don't even like gave Popeye spinach basically is what happened.
So that was the big deal.
Prior unloads on him.
Bunch of unanswered blows he ends up hitting Alexis with.
Finally, the referee comes in and stops it.
Guayo collapses to the canvas.
He's down there for a while, just laying there.
I mean, just probably an exhaustion as much as anything else.
Just the fight was insane.
Afterwards, they said, hey, Panama Lewis, what was in that bottle?
Seemed to do the trick.
He said, with a wink, he goes, it's water.
I mixed a little peppermint schnapps in there.
That's his trick, he says, which horseshit.
I gave an athlete booze?
A little, just a drop mixed in with the water for a little upper.
That's going to, no.
No, dude.
That's going to drop him upper. That's going to... No, sorry. No, dude. That's going to drop them down.
That's worse.
Another one of the trainers who Panama Lewis replaced
was told that the bottle contained a mixture of water,
essence of peppermint, and spirits of ammonia.
That's what was in it.
And they said it helped...
Panama Lewis said it helps expand the lungs and the throat
and you can breathe better.
But everybody else said he crushed up amphetamines,
and the people that knew him and worked with him said,
yeah, he crushed up amphetamines and fucking made an amphetamine cocktail
and said, down that, and then you go out there like a maniac
and beat the shit out of the guy when he's tired at the end of the fight.
That's why it's in a black bottle, because that shit's cloudy.
It's cloudy, and it's also you want to know the difference.
You want to know the difference.
You want to give him the speed bottle in the second round.
So, yeah, the Sims guy said, quote, when you get real tired and it feels like your chest was burning, this mix would open up your nostrils and lungs and the peppermint would make your lungs and nostrils feel cool. There weren't any drugs, but it was illegal.
And it was probably drugs.
So, yeah.
Anyway, so this is a TKO in round 14, 32-0, beat the odds.
He's now the undisputed king of this division.
How about that?
And this is on the cover of every boxing magazine.
This is a huge deal.
And grace.
Yeah.
This is going to be grace, I would say.
Yeah, this has got to be.
He says, quote, when a fighter isn't scared no more something bad can happen i could
lose my title with one punch what would i be thought of then it took me so long to get this
far what would i have to do to get here again so uh yeah uh another guy uh larry holmes as we know
about from the trevor burbick episode outstanding he said quote jesus aaron beat arguio's arguio's
ass like he stole something that was his thing uh fucking
analysis of the fight yeah jesus christ he said no one could beat aaron he'd throw 200 punches
per round and keep going that's what i mean 200 punches in three minutes wow think about how many
punches that is yeah that's not measuring a punch punch that's just punch punch punch as much as you
possibly can and none of these are tiny either these are he's going for a knockout with basically
every blow he throws incredible it's awesome april 2nd 83 at the sands casino in ac pre-implosion
look at this at the sands ghost of sinatra before he was dead he loves ac yeah it's an ac well not
really i don't think sinatra be caught dead in ac it's like Yeah, it's an AC. Well, not really. I don't think Sinatra would be caught dead in AC.
He's like,
even Hoboken's better
and I'm from there.
It's a dump.
He fights Kim Sang-hyun
this night
who is an Indianan gentleman.
Of course.
He's from South Korea.
He's 41-3-3 coming in.
Ends his career
41-4-3.
So this is it.
TKO round three.
Okay.
Aaron knocks him out.
This is right after panama lewis
has his license revoked now now uh after he removed the padding from the gloves of louis
resto before he fought billy collins jr that was what he did he took the pads out so he was just
hitting what an asshole he's a piece of shit this guy yeah he's that's how boxing used to be
he's actually he's he's doing the same tricks they did in the 30s right and it's like in the 80s you can't do that shit anymore so uh yeah he hires prior hires another guy to train him
a richie gachi echi gia chieti wow another guinea but they had a falling out too he's like i need
an italian guy jesus uh two weeks before the arguaio rematch prior brings in emmanuel stewart
who's lennox lewis's trainer you know
everybody's seen him he's the the the black dude next to lennox lewis for 20 years so uh
september 3rd 1983 prior makes 2.25 million to fight jesus flocco explosivo again really not bad
uh arguaio makes 1.75 million so they want this fight again people it was a war i mean
everybody wanted to see this fight this was at the caesar's pal uh outdoor arena there in vegas
that they had wrestlemania 9 at out there in the whatever the fuck uh versus alexis here
a 10th round knockout this time for aaron he controls it not as competitive uh prior at the
end of round two he uh he looked like he was gonna fall actually
he got hurt real bad but then he ends up uh knocking arguaio down in the first round and
then again in the fourth round and then finally puts him down in the 10th round uh after the fight
both these guys were so spent that they both announced simultaneously that they were retiring
from boxing wow they both said we're but we've. Had enough. Literally. One said he was done
and the other one said,
I'm fucking done too.
That was enough.
We both,
we've had enough.
Interesting.
It was like Rocky III
when they wheeled Mr. T
and Rocky both away
and they were like,
that's what this is.
Arguello says,
he was a great man
and a personal friend.
He was too strong
for me to handle
and beat me twice,
but regardless of how tough
our fights were,
he was always the same in and out of the ring. He was a great fighter and a great person. He was too strong for me to handle and beat me twice. But regardless of how tough our fights were, he was always the same in and out of the ring.
He was a great fighter and a great person.
He was a gentleman.
So very nice things to say about him.
Now he's so he's retired now.
Officially, officially retired.
He'll be back, but he's retired now.
He says that he just didn't know what to do.
He said he called himself a victim of his own success.
He just was bored. He couldn't handle this whole thing uh within a few weeks of being retired he
just couldn't handle it and uh started smoking crack because what else do you do when you're
that bored you're bored how bored do you gotta be you're so bored you want a free base he was like
that's what he was doing then and then it kind of turned into crack after a while there uh he owned
a house in miami and he would just have big drug binges down in Miami.
This is at the point where he had a giant entourage.
He was one of the first guys that had a huge entourage.
Just blowing cash.
Tons of women, and he'd be supplying drugs for everybody, blowing 10 grand in a night on coke.
Idiot.
Shit like that.
Idiot.
grand and a night on coke idiot shit like that idiot uh he said he went down to miami a few days after that last fight against uh flaco explosivo uh he said uh he tried that's when he first tried
free basin and he loved it that's the first time yeah a few days he's like well i'm retired now so
i could hit that up and do whatever i want and uh yeah he loved it boy did it was he how many of our
guys try free base in 1982 and they really like it?
They couldn't believe how great it is.
It's exciting.
Him, Thomas Henderson.
There's like so many that were like, did you ever try Freebase and cocaine?
It's amazing.
I don't want to tell you how to do your life, but listen.
Pretty good.
This is the shit.
Just going to say here.
Yeah.
So yeah, he was super into it.
He would pay.
He said that his money would just disappear.
People said he would get fucked up.
He would hand out $100 bills to strangers.
What the fuck?
Strangers he met on the street.
Just like, hey, what's up?
What's up, champ?
Nothing.
Oh, man, you got a dollar.
I'm trying to get something to eat.
And he'd be like, pow, here you go.
$100.
Walk away.
Go get a bunch of something.
Yeah, he was acting like this was never going to stop.
What a dummy.
He gave thousands of dollars to people in his entourage.
He would, you know, drug dealers forget about it.
He would also send money home to his mother, even though he didn't like her.
He'd send her money.
He even would give huge amounts of money to his church in Cincinnati.
So he's even donating huge amounts to church, which, you know, I guess it's better than buying Coke.
He bought pews.
What is there?
Is it?
He bought pews and paid for children's choir robes.
That is better.
So that's nice, I guess.
It keeps the kids doing something.
It gives them something to get molested under.
That's nice.
They don't have to do it in their street clothes.
Nobody wants that.
No.
That's bad.
So his retirement doesn't last long, though.
March 84, he announces
he's going to fight again he said quote i never really retired i just rested i vacated the title
because the wba i insisted i defend it every six months so he said he didn't want to do that
schedule so he took control of it and did it uh he proposed uh there was a proposed multi-million
dollar fight with uh lightweight champ ray
mancini and a bold boom boom but that fell through when mancini got knocked out by livingstone
bramble so uh yeah uh bob arum said about this quote aaron pryor actually cried i saw his tears
so again he cried because he's watching millions of dollars right just be lost by another guy
punched away that's so tough.
You have no control over it.
None.
I hope that guy doesn't.
I hope nothing happens to that guy because we need to fight.
Right now, he has a streak of 26 straight knockouts going.
No kidding.
Which is one of the longest streaks there is in history.
And undefeated.
And undefeated.
And 26 straight knockouts.
November 23, 1983, he's arrested early morning on a cocaine possession charge
he's jailed for eight hours finally freed on 2500 bond uh the bad the police said that a container
with a small amount of white powder believed to be cocaine was found on the seat of his automobile
when he was stopped for an equipment violation apparently he was looking for his license and
just like uh pulled coke out of
the glove compartment along with his like registration and shit like that i got this
board you gotta be yeah and they were like oh what's that on the seat oh step out of the car
sir and next thing you know uh yeah this charge ends up getting dismissed in the end on the
grounds that the arresting officers did not have a legal reason to search the car he was driving
even though they saw cocaine on the seat.
So he has a good lawyer is what that is.
And that's such a small charge that you can beat that with a good lawyer.
He insists that he does not have a drug problem, does not have a drug problem.
Now, I'm going to say that one more time.
Yeah.
So you, Jimmy, everyone he knows in the whole world, everyone listening right now knows Aaron Pryor in 1984 does not have a drug problem.
I got news for you.
You reached in your glove box to find something for a cop.
Not a problem.
And you didn't know.
No.
You've got so much, you forgot where some is.
You forgot that you just stuck some coke in there.
That's a problem.
That drug problem.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's got the opposite.
Most people's drug problem is when they can't afford drugs anymore. He's got the problem of he's just got too much drugs he doesn't if you have enough
where you know what you have and you keep track of it and you can afford more i feel like then
you don't have a problem right you you have it under control yeah once you start forgetting where
you put shit or not being able to afford the next one then you have a problem somebody gave me weed
in florida i knew exactly where that was when i got rid of it no shit so that's the thing so uh anyway now june of 84 he goes to court for
custody of his four four kids uh from all different women so i don't know how he got these all
into one but somehow this is all one hearing for all of his custody of all of his kids at this
point streamlined it uh yeah he divorces his wife here's coming up pretty soon that ends up happening But somehow this is all one hearing for all of his custody of all of his kids at this point. Streamlined it.
Yeah.
He divorces his wife.
Here's coming up pretty soon.
That ends up happening.
He said the divorce was the beginning of a turnaround in his life.
He says, ever since me and my wife got divorced, everything's been easy.
I know the feelings.
I was going to say this guy.
He said, quote, she wanted to go and sing and I wanted to have a family life.
So, yeah, she wanted that. But everything's been easy. things are great since i got rid of her it really is i haven't been
shot recently it's pretty nice i'd like yeah i get punched in the face but not shot so uh
jesus christ uh june 22nd 84 this is a big comeback here uh in toronto he fights nick
ferlano who's a can Canadian who's 28 and 7 at the
press conference before this
this is one of these
fighters who was there for the press conference said
quote you know what I was just remembering I was just
remembering that he was talking to Aaron Pryor
that time you fought this guy from Canada who
killed a man in the ring something
Jesus Christ and you told
some guy before the fight didn't he
tell you he better go to the guy told Aaron didn't he tell you he better go to the...
The guy told Darren,
didn't he tell you you better go to the doctor
and get a checkup?
And Pryor said, yeah.
And the guy said, would you tell him back?
And he said, quote, not to worry.
I had to die anyway.
So that's Pryor's fucking attitude.
He's not afraid.
No.
He knocked Furlano down twice in the first round
and ended up not being able to knock him out, though.
And it goes all 15 rounds for a
huge unanimous decision i mean he beat the living shit out of this guy but now he loses his streak
lost his streak uh so yeah a unanimous decision but he's 35 and 0 right now he sues to collect
300 000 that he claims a promoter richard mangone had refused to pay him uh for that fight he said
quote i didn't get paid the first fight with Nicky Ferlano. I didn't
get one dime. I quit boxing and
gave up my title because they said
I was, you know, black bottle and preached
to me about it. So he's telling
they're telling him that you can't be
in the spotlight because of the black
bottle thing. And he's like, you didn't have you gave me a
shitload of money for the second fight with that dude.
What are you talking about? March 1st
1985 is divorce becomes official uh and a cincinnati court awards her more than two hundred thousand
dollars and aaron pryor's 1983 cadillac oh those bastards she took his fucking oh she took his
cadillac oh jesus oh he had it all hooked up just the way he liked it imagine that shit he's like oh not my cadillac oh my god uh so uh it doesn't matter though because everybody knows all he really
cares about is coke at this point not cadillacs so he's at the sands and ac on march 2nd 1985
again up in atlantic city facing gary hinton who's 23 21 coming in. This foes all 15 again. Split decision this time.
Not even unanimous.
Brings him to 36-0, though.
He is a mess at this point.
An absolute fucking mess.
He's doing a lot of drugs, and it's affecting him physically,
and you can just see his sharpness isn't there.
In December 85, he is stripped of the IBF title for failure to defend
because he didn't defend it in nine months. So they say, yeah, you're gone. So he's stripped of the IBF title for failure to defend because he didn't defend it in nine months.
So they say, yeah, you're gone.
So he's stripped of the title.
1985, Sarah Pryor, his mom, alleges that her son is using drugs since he's moved to Miami.
She flew down there and tried to force him into a drug treatment program, which we'll talk about here.
And he says he's not addicted to drugs.
I don't have a cocaine problem, goddammit.
I can afford it just fine.
There's plenty of it.
It's everywhere.
It's in my glove compartment.
I don't even know it's there.
Go look for my proof of insurance, mom.
Just go.
You know what?
Go through my jacket pockets from last night.
You're going to find some coke.
You can do it if you want.
There will be some.
Just take it, because I got more.
Guess what?
Check the glove compartment.
I got another jacket.
Check my proof of
insurance it's in there like you said so uh he says he doesn't his mother signed papers in an
attempt to have him committed to a miami drug rehab center and he went i'm an adult and i ain't
going nowhere fuck you all right she doesn't have power of attorney over him or anything so it
doesn't work out on june 30th prior tells miami police he's been
abducted oh my this is amazing uh the police after investigating don't believe his story
he says that two of his cars a 1985 ford van and a 1985 sob turbo just this is amazing and he says
you'll know which ones they are because they all have bullet holes on them.
Both cars have a bunch of bullet holes on them. So you'll know which ones they are.
It's the sob with the bullet holes in it.
There's not a lot of them,
you know,
Swedish cars with bullet holes.
Um,
he said they were stolen.
He also says someone made off with his M 16 rifle.
Why does he have that?
That's a little much.
Yeah.
What are you going to NAMM?
What's going on here
dude no uh he said quote i don't have nobody to talk to nobody comes here nobody's talks nobody
knows me they all know me and i don't know them it hurts so bad then i picked up a couple guys
in miami when i first got here and we talk hey what's going on all right so linda who's his
girlfriend at the time and the baby by the way
his baby's name is nora which he says is aaron backwards but he spells it wrong oh boy so now
he has an aaron jr and a back and a fucking no yeah no i'm sorry eat shit on that you can't do
that no uh yeah so he says his girlfriend and the baby was at her friend's house so i go in
the house with linda and when i come out they had stolen my van i catch a cab and come home that's
his story he says that a friend then took him to a house where the van was where he confronted the
men who stole his van and so okay he says quote they said i owed them some money four hundred
dollars i say i don't even know you man what them some money, four hundred dollars. I say, I don't even know you, man.
What do I owe you four hundred dollars for?
The guy who took me over, they let him the guy who took me over.
They let him go.
So he called the police.
I guess they were holding that guy.
He called the police and the police break in and in the place.
And then these guys run away.
And now my van is gone.
and then these guys run away and now my van is gone.
So somehow he ends up getting arrested
because Pryor and another guy
are the only people at the house
with a bunch of cocaine.
So this is his story
for why he's at a house
with a bunch of cocaine
because he's only there
to try to retrieve his stolen van
and then just when I was getting my van back,
you bust in
and everyone who lives here left
and here I am with cocaine. So, you know, by the way, getting my van back, you bust in and everyone who lives here left.
And here I am with cocaine.
So, you know, by the way, find my van for me. I was abducted.
I'd like to make out a report officer.
They bust through the door.
He's got a big pile of coke.
It's all over his face.
And then they're like, freeze.
And he's like, I'd like to report a stolen van officer.
I've been abducted.
Your Honor.
Yeah.
I'm a policeman, asshole.
Listen, Your Honor. Yeah. I'm a policeman, asshole. Listen, Your Honor.
You fucking idiot.
So, yeah, this is a shitty story, I would say here.
They release him.
$10, as he called him, Your Majesty.
Yeah.
Oh, God, that would have been amazing.
Listen, I'm sorry, Your Majesty.
So, Jesus Christ, the police release him at 2 a.m.
And somebody else is also arrested for possession of cocaine.
There's a detective there, Doreen Nash.
And she's she was there.
She said, quote, My part was to see if there was any abduction or not.
The only means I had was speaking to the witnesses that were in the house with Pryor.
They all said basically the same thing, that he went there on his own to try to get his van back.
While in the house, witnesses say he did use cocaine and he wasn't abducted.
He just went there to do coke.
I talked to Pryor, but I couldn't get him to give me anything.
He wasn't very coherent.
So, yeah, this cop also says that Pryor's friend gave a false name and told the cops that the reason all this was happening was the fighter owed $1,000 to these people who then took his van in lieu of $1,000.
So, yeah, he has no, he just, he's friends that he picks up, just anybody off the street.
So one time there's a story about a woman who he knew vaguely named Candy who accompanies his mother to a grocery store.
And when they got home candy
helped her carry the bags in and into the house very politely and then went back dropped her off
by mrs prior whatever the fuck your name is sarah got in his car and then never brought it back just
drove away and he hasn't seen her out of the car ever since that's one of the stories he says quote
everybody robs me i meet a girl and she robs me i meet some
guys and they rob me people break into my house and steal things they take my machine gun i had
an m16 i had planned one day to get on a boat and i don't have no license and i might go to cuba
i don't know what that means or why i wanted to shoot my way back home i had plans like if it's
a nightmare like if it is nighttime, they come on your boat
and shoot you.
I believe I'm getting tired.
I'm getting hyper talking.
And so it's hot.
Oh, man, I feel like I'm just getting I feel like just getting into a car and run away.
That's that's that's his quote.
When asked about this, the way he speaks, he's on so much coke right there.
Crazy.
How many different fucking they all steal my guns.
You know, one time I was going to go to Cuba and come out and shoot'm gonna shoot myself you know they come in at nighttime i don't know i'm
rambling anyway it's hot out isn't it hot i'm just gonna get in the car and drive away what the
fuck kind of coke talk is that that is coke talk it's pretty impressive uh yeah somebody says to
him at that point why not go back into training that might help and he says oh i'm ready tonight
yeah i'm leaving tonight i'm going back to Cincinnati.
I'm going inside because they're outside in Florida.
And he says, he says, I'm going inside.
Ain't you hot?
I'm hot.
The police come by and mess with me.
I had a girl forge checks on me.
This is my third checking account.
People steal thousands of dollars out of my clothes.
I don't know where my money goes.
Ransom.
They threaten my kids that that will kill me if I don't get that.
They'll kill me if I don't give them money somebody breaks into my house seeing little things around like drugs
around my house and in my clothes i can't take no more you know i got a lot of people i got a lot
of people lost a lot of money on the alexis fight they're a little angry that's the only thing i
could think of gamblers that are mad at him for winning a fight then he says quote drugs is a big
thing in florida yes it is and i figure just
one thing if you can go training and you can sacrifice sex and alcohol and go to bed early
at night you can sacrifice drugs if you want to there was never any drugs involved in me as far
as winning any fight uh why does my eye hurt you have an electricity charge or something see my
eyes crossed that's automatic i'm tired i've got to get some sleep i don't know what that meant that that was all one statement when i read all that shit that was one big
he went from m16s to i don't even know man the three o'clock bus run at two here what is that
he is out of his fucking mind uh then he starts out of the room during this interview stops and
turns and says quote i can buy anything i want says, quote, I can buy anything I want.
Cars, a house, jewelry.
I can buy anything but a friend.
That's what he says.
And then he walks away.
Solid point.
That's it.
He said, you can pick your friends, you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.
That's what it is.
My grandfather used to say that all the time.
He did.
That was his famous fucking, said it all the time.
I'd be like, yeah, I know.
I get it.
You can't pick anybody's face.
I get it.
I'm aware aware i thought that
was hilarious that's what this dick just said so yeah he doesn't go back and start training that
night like he says a friend i could buy anything but a friend jesus christ uh so he's still in
miami using drugs and uh using a lot more drugs he would start to run low on money he traded in
his cars he'd sell his clothes, his furniture for drugs.
Friends from Cincinnati flew down and tried to take him back home, but he wouldn't leave.
He wouldn't go.
They hired detectives to keep an eye on him.
And the report came back was that he wasn't going to make it.
They were like, he's going to die out there.
He's fucked.
We're watching what he does.
Now, at this point, he addresses somebody brings up to him.
Didn't your mom try to have you put in rehab?
And he says, quote, She only wants to have me put away so she can start handling my checkbook.
I've taken drugs before.
I've done it because I'm human in there in the world.
But I'm not on drugs now.
And I've never used drugs to the point where they would hinder my ability to as a fighter.
Yeah, that's what he says
and jesus christ then he talks a little more about uh uh problems he said there's problems
in florida he says it's in the air quote yeah my problems they started when my mother came here she
came to take over she was handling my checkbook i feel i'm back where i started because of my
mother she's got a nice house a cadillac She's never worked and she never introduced me to my father.
About nine years ago,
I put my mother
in an institution.
I was only 21.
She shot her husband.
I was driving a school bus
and I went home
and they say my mama
shot my dad,
my stepdad.
I put her in a hospital
because she lost her.
She had lost her nerves,
I think.
And then he pauses
and says,
I think she don't like me
because she done
those things to me.
I don't know that's
what i mean he's out of his fucking mind he's legit nuts and it's over plus free base it's over
and it's about to get worse uh yeah uh he would make they talked about uh the shooting with they
wouldn't talk about that uh he also said he wouldn't he said that he can't talk about the
shooting that his mom was involved in any more than that because he was ordered into silence by her brother-in-law, William Hardy, who is his uncle and known to the family as, quote, Uncle Chocolate.
Uncle Chocolate.
Well, tell me.
We have Luigi Bizarro and Uncle Chocolates.
I want to eat dinner at Luigi Bizarro's and then go to Uncle Chocolates for dessert.
Don't you?
Doesn't that sound wonderful?
He says, quote, I'm his uncle and I'm his trainer.
And that boy, this boy is going to fight better than ever.
You're going to get that straight from the horse's mouth.
Which he's got it from him, not the horse's mouth.
I don't think he knows what that phrase means.
No.
I don't think he is.
He's very confused.
Was that Uncle Chocolate?
That was Uncle Chocolate.
Oh, boy.
Uncle Chocolate there.
So, Jesus Christ. He's his uncle. Was that Uncle Chocolate? That was Uncle Chocolate, yeah. Oh, boy. Uncle Chocolate there. Jesus Christ.
He's his uncle and his trainer?
Sort of.
And Uncle Chocolate has sworn him to secrecy or else?
He's Uncle Chocolate.
He says what's allowed to be disseminated to the public.
He's the family spokesperson slash boxing trainer slash uncle chocolate that's what he is
what else do you need uh so they're talking about one day they go to interview him and he's he's
still got a house at this point he's got a screened in pool uh you know all that nice house in southwest
miami uh he's he's still uh at this point now he doesn't have the same muscle mass he's wearing a
michael jackson t-shirt awesome yeah uh he he shows the have the same muscle mass. He's wearing a Michael Jackson T-shirt. Awesome.
Yeah.
He shows the baby to everybody, and he says that he can trust the baby.
He says, I can trust her, and I can trust my dog, Clyde.
I trust him, but nobody else.
That's what he says.
He just picked the two things that don't speak English in this house. They don't speak English.
They can't talk back.
Neither of them can really shoot him, which is helpful.
So that's nice. Maybe that's what it is. He doesn't't have any fingers and she wouldn't know what to do with him even if she got a gun so you know uh now he leans forward they say in a
conspiratorial whisper this is insane he says quote i don't want to elaborate too much because
i do hope to fight again and i don't want to mess up my career i'm not supposed to mention it but
i'm tired of talking about everything else.
Cataracts.
Cataracts.
They told me not to come to Atlantic City or Vegas no more because I'm blind in one eye.
I want to get my eye fixed and continue to fight.
His eyesight's all fucked up now.
Because he's got cataracts.
He's got cataracts, and he needs surgery.
In 1986, he's pulled over and arrested for driving under the influence of cocaine.
He's all fucking jacked up.
So that's not great.
No.
In early 86.
May 10th, 87, or 86, I'm sorry.
He is freed on a $500 bond after he's arrested on disorderly conduct and reckless driving charges.
Not great.
When he was approached and arrested for the reckless driving,
he then threatened harm to Officer William O'Brien, who stopped him.
So they got him on that, too.
Yeah, not great.
Not a great.
It's going downhill here.
October 21st, 1986 in Cincinnati.
So what has he done?
Yeah, he's gone home.
Yeah, he's he's given money to churches.
Right.
He has gone home.
He's named his kid Junior.
He's fucking everything he can possibly fuck up.
Certainly.
He's arrested in his hometown here after his mother claims that he hit and choked her in
her home.
His mom?
He got arrested for beating up his mom.
God, Jesus.
Come on, man.
Really?
That's terrible.
I get it that she might have been packing heat yeah but
it's your mom it's your mother you can't hit and choke your mom i'm sorry i don't care what she
did you're not allowed to do that just beyond the pale there's no excuse for that yeah even like
she hit me yeah she's your mom yeah she's allowed to hit you she's supposed to that's her job you
go out what i do you know you don't fucking hit her you don't you know choke her and everything
there's never an excuse for hitting your mom maybe Maybe if she shot you to get her to stop.
That's the only thing I could think.
Yeah, possibly.
But other than that, I don't know.
So, yeah, they arrest him for that.
December of 86, he sees Alexis Arguello.
They run into each other.
And Alexis says, quote, I saw Aaron last December and I was shocked at his appearance.
He must have weighed 110 pounds.
I went up to him and said, help yourself, Aaron.
Help yourself out.
That's so bad.
He didn't even say hello.
He said, oh, my God, help yourself.
But I don't even know if he heard me or understood what I was saying.
Not even a person, just a shell of a person.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
They asked him about what happened, what's going on with you,
and he gives a quote to the paper,
and he blames Miami.
He says, quote,
Miami has made me mean.
They said he mumbled it.
This town has hurt me and made me mad at myself,
mad at everyone else.
Things have changed.
I don't know why it is.
That's not me.
I just want a friend,
one I can trust.
I don't feel like Aaron Pryor.
I don't want to feelaron pryor i don't
want to feel mean that's his quote he's at it he's a dave chapelle chapelle show character at this
point what is he doing he's just saying nonsensical shit wait till you hear will smith's song about
the place you're really gonna be on my hamburger what and making me mean sorry that's what he would do you'd be saying something that
made sense and then he would go i don't know why i don't like churros okay tracy jordan that's what
he is he's total like fucking uh 30 rock yeah tracy morgan character here so uh february 26 1987
uh metro dade county police detective virginia martin says that's bad
when you start out with that there's an incident that starts on a tuesday night okay i this is the
police's thing a female house guest said she saw prior uh smoking crack cocaine out of a soda can
oh boy in the bathroom. Oh, boy.
Okay.
Which is...
That's no good.
He doesn't even have a crack pipe.
No.
He's smoking it out of a soda can.
Which you smoke weed out of a soda can when you're 16.
Right.
And you have no way of getting a bowl.
And you're like, I don't know, just poke the...
But crack cocaine?
You don't smoke crack out of a soda can when you're a champion of the world.
I'm sorry.
Get a crack pipe like a champ.
Jesus.
The police said, quote, he became enraged when she discovered this and told her not to say anything.
Apparently, she did not agree to this, and they continued to argue until he then hit her, tied her wrists and ankles with electrical cord and sexually assaulted her.
What?
That's how this goes.
That's what the police are saying.
Quote, this is what the detective says,
quote, during this time,
he beat her about the body with a handgun and a stick.
Oh, Jesus.
While he sexually assaulted her,
tied her up with a cord.
This is so bad.
This is terrible.
This has gone really awry.
Yeah, it gets worse.
Wednesday, this was on a Tuesday.
Wednesday, two other house
guests arrived and they heard the woman struggling he had her apparently tied up in a bedroom for 24
hours what the fuck after sexually assaulting her and everything else now they say uh they heard the
woman struggling and tied up in the bedroom and when they went to try to help her uh prior pulled
a gun on them yeah that's what they're saying.
Now, the detective said, quote, he threatened to kill the witnesses and the victim.
That's not good.
No.
During a scuffle to disarm him, the gun went off and Pryor was shot in the left hand.
This is time number two.
He is shot again.
Yeah.
So apparently everybody then took her to the hospital where she was treated and
released and prior is arrested the next morning at the hospital where he has gone to you know
have his hand gunshot wound treated he's charged with sexual battery kidnapping false imprisonment
aggravated bag battery and six counts of aggravated assault they all fit whoa that's a that's a hefty
slate of charges right there.
He's held in the medical ward because he's got a gunshot wound. So the judge orders him finally
released on only a $50,000 bond. The judge says out loud, this is the eighties man out loud,
quote, credibility of the witness in this case leaves a lot to be desired. And I don't think
proof is evident or presumption is great that the defendant committed these crimes so low bail so he basically said i don't believe that broad
i'm letting him out on a low bail which is an interesting way of he could have just put they
didn't have to put it like that that was just an interesting thing to say out loud there so uh yeah
uh he on the other hand has a totally he says he was robbed by the woman and the five visitors and he's pissed.
He's the victim here.
That's common for him.
Yeah.
Always robbed.
Everyone's robbing me.
They're stealing my machine guns.
Right.
It's crazy.
So in the meantime,
Buddy La Rosa there
sent him about,
I don't know what that would be.
What?
Like maybe 20,000 pies?
Yeah.
About to get you out of jail
for that?
Yeah.
A lot of pizza.
Sends him money to make bail.
Pryor gets out and he goes right back to doing coke yeah right back in there he says later on quote you think i cared whether i died a crack addict doesn't care if somebody kills him a crack
that a crack addict wants to die doesn't give he's got a death wish now so now deborah harry not
heart of glass debbie harry but deborah Harry, which just shares the name, who's a woman who lives with Pryor at the time of his arrest, says in a deposition in court that Pryor used cocaine, quote, constantly.
She says in the deposition, quote, when him stick things in his ears, up his nose, change into women's clothes, make him drink bottles of rubbing alcohol, hydrogen peroxide.
He'd smoke cat litter, grits.
He'd eat raw meat.
That is not a good advertisement.
I mean, wait, hold on.
He smoked cat litter, Jimmy.
And grits.
I'm going to smoke a cat litter grit joint.
It's going to be good.
And the last thing was what?
He eats raw meat?
And eats raw meat.
My.
Which is by far the most normal thing in there.
People do that.
But the rest of that.
Smokes cat litter.
This is crazy.
I guess he could wear women's clothes if he wants.
But smoking cat litter and grits is a little weird.
Not a good advertisement for this drug.
Wow.
I would say her husband, David Harryry was working as prior's bodyguard
uh often they said he had to go to crack cocaine houses to retrieve prior he'd have to go pick him
up at crack houses as we called it a crack cocaine house which is very upper class a little nicer
yeah so debbie harry here said uh she also saidryor pointed a gun at the woman he accused of attacking,
a woman he's accused of attacking, as well as the others in the house.
The gun went off and his left hand was wounded.
She said at first when they tried to take him to the hospital,
he refused hospitalization and said, I only want crack.
That's what he said.
Don't take me to the hospital. I don't need medical attention. I just want crack. That's what he said. Don't take me to the hospital.
I don't need medical attention.
I just want crack and I'm good.
That is incredible.
That's amazing.
That's how good crack is.
That's how good crack is.
You have a hole in your hand made by a weapon.
Morphine.
And you're like, I'm just going to smoke crack.
I think I'll feel that.
Crack?
Where can I get some crack?
So, wow. He says as he's being brought into the miami-dade jail
he says that someone shouted quote hey champ and uh through the door and said can i have your
autograph one of the prisoners to recognize him and uh he said they state the way they put it the
request cut through the heavy crack cocaine haze which clouded his brain uh at the time uh he never said
anything back to him because he just didn't even know what was going on uh i guess as he made his
way down the hall is when he realized that uh he didn't belong in jail and he wasn't even the champ
yeah he's just a fucking crackhead who's in jail at that point he said quote it scared me it felt
like i felt like somebody that didn't belong there you know besides the crack and the kidnapping
shootings and that sort of thing.
And the sexual assault.
And the raping and the beatings, you know, beating about the body with a stick and a gun.
Now, his side of the story is completely different.
Lee Robinson, who's his friend, said he saw the alleged victim driving Pryor's van the night this was supposed to happen.
So he said, I saw her out.
She wasn't even there.
She wasn't held captive.
She was driving his van.
He said he asked her, quote, where's Aaron?
And she said, Aaron's dead.
That's what she told him.
That's what this guy's saying.
He said that he and another man went to Pryor's house
where several other people were there.
Lots of people live there.
And at first they were told they couldn't enter.
Then he said, quote, then I heard Aaron say, Lee, help me.
So he said he went and found Pryor and he was, quote, in great pain with his arm bandaged.
He said he was told that Pryor told him that this woman who was supposedly the victim actually shot him.
And he's the victim.
This woman who's supposedly the victim actually shot him.
And he's the victim. He said that Pryor told him that people in the house had held him hostage and made him sign money orders for them.
He said that when he tried to, this guy said that when he tried to get Pryor out of the house, the woman showed him a gun stuck in her waistband and said Pryor's not going anywhere.
Now, Robinson, his friend here, said that he eventually took Pryor to the hospital where he was treated for a gunshot wound to his arm.
And that's, you know, so he helped him out.
That's his story.
He said that, you know, he just he was a nice guy.
Let these people into his house.
And all he wants to do is get home and see his children, for Christ's sake.
Jesus.
Oh, God, the fuck here.
There's four of them.
This is ridiculous.
So, yeah, they they, the affidavits, his lawyer says, quote, I've never read two affidavits.
I'm sorry.
The assistant state attorney says that his affidavit priors and his friends are a little too close.
He said, quote, I've never read two affidavits from two people that are not only the exact same words, but even have the same commas.
It makes me a little suspicious.
So, yeah.
So, this is fucking crazy.
He says after this incident, right now, he knew this was it.
He needed to turn his life around, and that's when he did what, Jimmy?
Go to church.
Turn to God.
Hell yeah.
That's when he found the Lord.
Yahtzee.
Found the Lord back in my life.
Woo!
He said, quote, during my darkest moment, I finally saw the light.
I saw it.
I asked God for help, and he's given it to me.
All the good things that have happened to me since are nothing but God's work.
Damn it.
He's got me in this gym.
He's keeping me here.
I went through some horrible times, but I survived.
I've still got my hands with a hole in it, but still.
I got my ears, my eyes, and my legs, and I've still got a chance to use my talent.
I'm very fortunate.
Yeah.
How old is he?
He is, quote, good now.
Good fucking now.
As good as it gets.
What is this, 87, 32?
Yeah.
He's getting toward.
He can still fight.
Yeah, for boxing, for that lightweight, too.
You're on the back end.
Yeah, downswing.
It could happen.
Other guys did it here.
He says he may win another fight, which regardless of anything that happens, there's no chance
he's ever going to self-destruct again.
Okay.
Good now.
Okay.
He said, all my life I've wanted to be a champion.
When I finally got to the top, I didn't know how to handle it.
The wrong people met me, and I went along with them.
I started doing drugs, and they turned my life upside down.
I didn't do it.
They did it.
I should have known better.
Now I do.
God, he is good at blaming everybody else.
He's good, man.
He sticks it right in there.
If I didn't learn my lesson by now, I never will.
I experienced drugs and what they can do.
You will never catch me into drugs again.
I want kids to know how bad they are.
Whenever I'm around kids i tell them say
no to drugs they'll ruin your life and he says you know ridiculous this is people not believing in me
this is goddamn crazy uh a friend of his there said quote i don't care what people think i know
aaron's gonna make it he still lives in miami and in miami there are bad people and drugs everywhere
that he can ignore them and turn his life around here shows me how much strength he has now he says no
one is then aaron says quote no one is going to take advantage of aaron prior again he's strong
again he doesn't have to follow anyone around anymore jimmy he's good now so good it's uh and
then happily ever after the end uh he makes a a comeback he said that uh larosa the pizza king
said that aaron caught quote he called me to get him uh to get him he called me to come get him
because he wanted to make a comeback he looked so bad when i found him he looked like he was living
in a concentration camp oh jesus because he was so skinny he's been out of the ring for 29 months
he insists he's free of drugs and all ready to go. He's set for
a fight on August 8th, 1987. So years off. And he says, quote, no matter what I say or do,
everyone's going to be looking at me to mess up and do the wrong thing again. But I can't blame
them because of what I've done in the past. I've messed up. What are you going to do? He said,
I'm sure most people out there think I'm drinking in a bar somewhere or doing drugs.
Nobody thinks I'm in the gym again, training.
No one.
I feel tremendous.
In my other attempts to come back, I wasn't really sure that's what I wanted.
I was lost.
But now I know this is what I really want.
I realize my whole life depends on this.
When you get lost out on the street like I was, sometimes you can't come back no matter how hard you try.
But I woke up.
There are no more drugs.
I've kicked the habit, and I'm never going to do them again.
I just hope it's not too late for me to take the great talent God has given me and make something good out of my life.
God damn it.
Yeah.
His trainer said he's done beautifully so far.
He's improved every day.
They said, quote, he's gotten a little trouble before, but that's over now.
I would say gunpoint rape.
A lot of trouble. And that's over now. I would say gunpoint rape is a lot of trouble.
And that's over now. He's
away from the dope and the bad people. He's
straightened out his life. I'm convinced of that.
And if I didn't think he was sincere about staying away
from trouble and boxing again, I wouldn't be working
with him. I'd tell him to fuck off. He was
a great champion before, and he'll be a great champion
again because he wants to be a great champion.
Alright then. His girlfriend,
he's got a new girlfriend now, Lori Johnson, she's trying to make people
understand what he's like.
She said, quote, people don't know who don't know him or afraid of him because the things
they've read or heard, but things have been exaggerated.
Aaron's a wonderful person.
He's a kind-hearted, loving man.
His biggest problem is that he's too nice, and the wrong people take advantage of him.
It seemed like all he met in Miami were bad people.
He was just in a negative environment.
He's just misunderstood.
He's a bad dog only because he was in a bad place.
They didn't pet him.
They left him outside too often.
He chained him to a tree all day.
That's what happens.
It's not his fault.
He's going to do coke and rape.
He's going to rape everybody if you put him out there.
That's what happens.
Quote, Aaron did drugs because the people around him were doing drugs and they wanted
and he they wanted him to join them oh boy and he's just so lonely and he wants friends he just
thought that's what he had to do you know that's how it is so he did he couldn't say no those people
confused aaron he didn't know who his friends were he should know that crack is shitty that's what
he should know no one could confuse you when you're thinking crack's a good idea.
Jesus Christ.
All he needed was someone positive, someone who loved him and cared.
I'm that person.
I'm behind him 100%.
I will enable him to do anything that he wants to do, including crack.
They met in Cincinnati and started dating.
She has a five-year-old son
they're all living together johnson said this is the woman that they're a close family and they
enjoy a simple quiet home life and a lot of crack she said we quote we go to a show once in a while
but we spend most of our time at home we play cards watch television and talk they're like an
80 year old couple watch murder she wrote and they go to bed at 9.30. Aaron
is a religious man who goes to church
every Sunday. We talk a lot
about life, about where he's been and about where
we're going. Wow. One night
I asked him why he ever took drugs and
what did he get out of them and he couldn't answer.
He really didn't know why he
did them. He got nothing out of them. He did
them because people around him wanted him to.
He needed the friendship and stability in his life, and that just wasn't there.
So he's good now.
For sure.
It's everybody else.
But now he's with me.
He doesn't need crack.
God, she's amazing.
I've solved his crack problem.
My vagina's better than crack.
She's incredible.
Isn't that great?
What a lady.
Wow, that's amazing.
I'm so happy.
So August 8th, sunrise musical theater in fort
lauderdale he fights bobby joe young oh who sounds like they pulled him out of the everglades i don't
want to be a serial killer yeah either that or well a serial killer they pulled out of a fan
boat in the everglades it's perfect perfect actually uh he's a good fighter though 31 7
and 1 for his career uh this was not great uh Pryor is a shell of Pryor.
He's not who he was.
He takes a blow and drops to the canvas in the seventh round.
He gets up on his feet, but you know when they do the standing eight count?
He turns his back to the referee, which the referee has to look in your eyes
and make sure you're holding your mouthpiece in your mouth and all that shit.
They said the referee was like he didn't know what was going on he was kind of
baffled but he kept counting because i guess that's what i'm doing prior then got down on the
ground and did the sign of the got down on one knee and did the sign of the cross and uh that
was it well they counted to 10 that's i mean he just took a knee and lost the fight would you do
that he said that's it i'm just taking a knee done lost the fight. Why would you do that? He said, that's it.
I'm just taking a knee.
Done.
I don't know.
Did the sign of the cross.
Thank you.
Whatever the fuck.
Jesus means a lot to him.
Jesus means a TKO loss in round seven.
36-1 for Aaron.
He fights again in December of 88.
So that's over a year later is his next fight.
It's up in Rochester.
He fights Herminio Morales.
Herminio is his name.
Wow.
10-5-1 coming in.
Knockout in the third round.
37-1.
What does he do now?
Moves back to Cincinnati full time.
Yeah.
He says at this point, he leaves Miami and he's divorced.
He leaves his girlfriend there, who's his best friend, leaves her behind, goes back
and immediately starts smoking crack again.
He says, quote, I went back to start my life over to forget about Miami and my ex-wife.
I didn't know I picked up a habit.
You didn't know?
What?
You've been smoking crack for five years.
Out of your fucking mind?
Constantly.
I thought I could quit.
I had no idea.
He said, quote, I didn't know I'd picked up a habit.
I thought I could quit.
Wow. But when I could quit.
Wow.
But when I got back, the same drugs that were in Miami were also in Cincinnati.
Weird.
I thought I was leaving it.
No more drugs here.
Bye, crack.
No crack in Cincinnati.
Cincinnati was known as the only crack-free haven of the... Yeah, you heard that.
In the 80s, everywhere in the world had crack but Cincinnati.
It's pretty amazing, actually.
I don't know how they did it.
They said if you develop a coke habit somewhere,
just leave.
Go right back to Cincinnati.
It's the smell of the sulfur.
It makes you not want it.
That's what I've heard.
It's like taking that pill that makes you not drink.
It's the same thing.
It's like smelling salts.
When you get knocked out,
the sulfur, it's a detox.
That is the best way to put it, Jimmy.
Thank you.
It pulls the coke right out of you thank you yeah like right from
your pores god damn it jimmy that's smart uh september 1989 he is what arrested yeah why
cocaine in his car and a crack pipe for good measure so what the fuck why not april 1990 he
is ordered to undergo two years of treatment for drug abuse he enters a no contest plea for a charge of
possess possessing illegal drug paraphernalia which was a crack pipe uh which was found in his car uh
in recovery programs uh he doesn't do well though that's the thing no he doesn't uh no matter what
they do and what they say and no matter how much he says everything's going to be fine uh he says that there was only
one place aaron pryor wanted to go quote wherever the crack was yeah so yeah he said quote i would
pray to god i would say take this taste from my mouth please please take it away but it never went
away never never never that's his quote jim, what does that say? Never, never, never.
I would say, Lord, take this taste from my mouth.
That's amazing.
Screaming at the clown.
We've never heard anyone beg the Lord to take the taste of crack from their mouth before on our show.
That's a new one.
Hey, congratulations.
Un-fucking-real.
So, yeah.
Before this next fight he has, because he's going to fight again, he has surgery to remove
a cataract from his ass.
All he had to do was get a divorce to remove that.
That's right.
Done.
Boom.
Gets a cataract and repair a detached retina, which was Sugar Ray's problem.
After the surgery, he's denied a license to fight by California, New York, and Nevada.
All the biggies there.
The state Nevada medical report declared him legally blind in his left eye.
What the fuck?
His vision in his left eye was 2400.
Oh, no.
With corrective lenses, it improved to 2070.
It's still not wonderful.
The state of Wisconsin, though, they said, until you get drunk enough, you can get right in the ring and fight there.
They gave him a license.
They didn't care.
Climb in, fucker.
You stuff him full of curds there.
You have a couple of beers, and he's just, you get right in the ring there, and it's going to be fine.
He's going to punch him.
I'll tell you that.
He's not going to see it coming from the left side.
But, you know, hey, what are you going to do?
We'll stuff him full of cheese curds.
See which one kills him first.
That's all.
You know, by the way, we'll be in Milwaukee on December 5th or 6th or some shit.
So come see us there.
Yeah.
Damn near.
There's a small town murder.
There's like 20 tickets left.
So go there.
So he does have to sign a waiver relieving, releasing the state from any liability.
Yeah.
From any, you know, blindness.
Let him fight.
They're going to let him fight, though.
They said, what do you think about that?
He says, quote, I wisconsin is a wonderful place for
humanity for a person to have justice even if you are disabled yeah the way he did it was
he he says quote this is what he says and this is what's his legal argument quote i don't have
a medical problem i have a disability problem right don't let me fight you're actually
discrimination actually discriminating against uh my disability rather than saying you're not medically cleared to fight.
So he played it a different way.
And Wisconsin went, yeah, right.
I've had a few, you know, a little buzz.
Why not?
I'm blind drunk.
I feel good enough.
I think I'm going to do that.
So, yeah, he says that, you know, I don't know.
That's obviously a horseshit way to.
That is.
It's terrifying that you can do that and get yourself put into a ring with
with somebody that has vision in both eyes well yeah it's well shit evander holyfield hasn't said
a a word of english that anyone's been able to understand in 12 years and they let that guy fight
still or they have the last couple years i don't get it at all there's no way anything for
entertainment i guess so uh so he says quote i can see fairly well which isn't a
that's not that's not good enough to fight my vision is kind of like what you would have if
you wore glasses and took them off you know not good enough to see a person beating you
oh my god if i take my glasses off i do not want to fight to me take your glasses off and let's fight god no fucking no god no so uh may
16th 1990 in madison wisconsin he fights daryl p man jones p e e man that's terrible p man the
actual p p actual uran pp yeah the spell of p uh 13 and 13 mediocre pp man yeah uh 15 23 career Mediocre pee-pee man. Yeah. 15-23 career. Knockout in the third round for Aaron.
So 38-1.
1990, though, he has an arrest when he admits to he's on probation,
admits to court officials that he is drug-dependent when he fails tests,
and a judge orders him to undergo even more drug treatment and rehabilitation.
That's the way that goes.
That's the way it goes.
December 4th, 1990, he fights his last fight in norman oklahoma
roger chope who's a six and three fighter six and five career tko's him in round seven finishes his
career 39 and one so that's great can't say anything about him in the ring sugar ray says
about him quote we sparred on several occasions and we never thought we'd fight and we never
thought we'd fight each other because of the difference in weight class.
And when we did spar, once in a while I'd get him, and once in a while he'd get me.
But I don't know why we never fought.
It would have been an honor to fight Aaron Pryor.
So as a boxer, he gets a lot of respect, especially from people in the business.
Now, March 14, 1991, he is talking about, at this point, he is a homeless crack addict living
on the streets of Cincinnati.
Back to sleeping in doorways.
He's so depressed and filled with self
loathing that he constantly considers
how to kill himself.
He's held a gun to his head. He raised
a knife over his belly,
praying to the Lord for the courage
to thrust it in. Lord,
make me not want to taste cocaine and then
stab myself please jesus christ remember when you begged to take the taste of cocaine away from you
and he wouldn't do that what makes you think he's gonna fucking help you kill yourself unbelievable
he won't take coke from you no that's jesus christ uh he said probably he would go for days without
food or sleep he said basically people would say if you take like if you took a bus trip around a tour of Cincinnati, you'd see him standing there on corners panhandling.
So now he's panhandling.
He said, and if you visited certain crack houses, you might have spotted him lying on the floor with his face down in the dirt.
His skin was a deathly color.
his face down in the dirt.
His skin was a deathly color.
And if it wasn't,
and it wasn't out of the ordinary to find him staring at the sky,
carrying on his own private conversation with God.
He's now turned into the guy that walks around the streets,
yelling at the sky.
You know,
that crazy guy that you walk around and say, that's him now.
Yeah.
He weighed a hundred pounds,
which is not good.
No,
he was 135 when he fought,
when he's like normal and just off and retired he's like
155 and uh 100 is not okay and that's uh only an estimate because he really didn't ever even
figure out what he weighed not a lot of scales didn't care no also uh he was eventually arrested
here by undercover police and charged with trafficking cocaine which is a homeless guy
this is so stupid this is a bullshit trumped up charge
to get him to plea to some tiny bullshit.
He's arrested at 12.15 a.m.
He's in an apartment building hallway.
Police are sent to the scene
following citizens' complaints
that it's a fucking crack house.
Please go to that crack house.
They found him, chased him.
He fell down in the basement
while he was trying to escape.
He fell down, and when he fell down, five packages of crack fell out of his hand onto the ground.
So couldn't say those weren't his.
They were right next to him.
They said that the packages were, quote, packaged similar to that used for sale purposes on the street.
You know, if you just bought five things of crack, they'd be packaged the same way.
Not if you were going to sell them.
That's like saying you went and bought a 12 pack of soda and i go well you're obviously
going to sell that 12 pack of soda it's it's packaged to sell jimmy it's in a box and there's
five of them that's hardly trafficking that's what that's what i'm saying i mean it would be
if he was standing on a corner going yo i got fucking you know two for 20s over here blue
tops and shit but he's not doing that yeah this isn't hamsterdam watch the wire anyway all right wmd is the bomb so anyway uh when they came for him yeah he's there uh this
was another time he was lying in the hall of a crack house when he's got arrested there uh this
point he said that he had stomach issues though he said his ulcer had erupted oh, he said that he had stomach issues, though. He said his ulcer had erupted. Oh, Christ.
He said, I was hurting so bad I hadn't been to sleep for 10 days.
When I went in for surgery, I knew it was a good time to die.
I prayed that God didn't let me come out of this the same way I was living.
Kill me or change me.
He goes to rehab.
When he goes to rehab, he meets a lady.
Of course he does.
He finds a lady, a woman named Frankie, like my dog.
Oh, yeah.
He meets in rehab.
And yeah, he meets her.
He met her in 91 shortly before he went to prison for a while there.
It's his third experiment here with some recovery in the hospital and doesn't work at all.
But they do have, he does find this woman here.
Frankie's a white lady from the suburbs, basically, that he hooks up with.
And he said, told her, quote, my name is Aaron Pryor. Maybe you heard of me. in here frankie's a white lady from the suburbs basically that he hooks up with and uh uh he he
said uh told her quote uh my name is aaron prior maybe you heard of me and she said i don't know
who you are no idea he said i used to be a boxer and she laughed at him and said yeah right yeah
sure little guy because he's tiny and she said she knew like muhammad ali and mike tyson those
are boxers i don't know who you are you You're this little tiny 100-pound crackhead. You got no muscle on you. Yeah.
She was, you know, little too.
And so June 27th, 1991, he shows up to court a day late to his sentencing.
Dollar short?
To his sentencing.
You show up respectful and on time.
Oh, yeah.
You show up a day late, like, you know, I don't know.
This was yesterday, sir.
Yeah.
The judge tells him that he has missed uh he had missed mandatory
appearances in both courts and he says it was because he overslept sorry i slept in i used to
be a crackhead remember yeah you know how it goes i get very tired and i nod off he said when he
woke up he reported to his lawyer who arranged for him to appear in court then and the judge said you
sir yep may fuck off six months in jail so for that uh yeah so he
this is when he pleads guilty to a charge of drug abuse which was a thing then uh so he shipped off
to a state fucking prison here he serves three months and 12 days he writes back and forth to
frankie back and forth here he had his first job in a while. He worked in the prison gym,
made 25 cents a day.
So that'll get you some crack.
He wrote letters to his beloved
here in jail.
And yeah, everything was,
you know, he was lonely
and he was telling her
that he was through with crack.
But he said in a letter,
he told her that he was
through with crack,
through with crack.
And then later on in the letter,
he said, but there is a voice
in my head saying, well, maybe one more time, champ.
Literally, quote, well, maybe one more time, champ.
Just one more try.
One more round.
One more fucking around.
So, yeah, he she said, though, he could be sensitive, a regular romantic and that sort of shit.
You know, yeah, in prison there, you know, it goes.
So after this, this is he still got the ulcer problems.
With this, the doctors told him if he continued to do drugs, he would die.
So, yeah, that's not good.
It's not Doc Holliday.
Slow it down.
Chill out there, Chief.
Yeah, nice TB reference there.
Aaron says about this, I did thousands and thousands of dollars of cocaine,
but it didn't take no money for Aaron Pryor to get high.
Everybody wanted me to come to their crack house.
They still do today.
I'm a fucking, I'm a distinguished guest of a crack house.
They call me for openings.
Whenever there's an opening, there's a big opening of a crack house in the south side today.
You're going to be there.
Check out my appearances at crack houses.
Puts his top hat on and swings his cane and heads on down there.
Open it up like it's the fucking plaza or something
like he's vanderbilt opening the ground breakings jesus christ uh he said but there's another person
in me that i wanted to know that i lost touch with i loved cocaine but i love me more okay he
loves cocaine i wish you loved boxing more that'd be great uh for thanksgiving his friend hawk picked
him up again here they're back again again. Same thing. Just him.
This is all it is. They said
that he went in there for Thanksgiving.
The Hawk guy, they had a big Thanksgiving dinner
and they laid around talking about
what they were going to do for the future. They planned
a bunch of stuff. I guess Hawk
bought him some clothes once he got out of jail.
Gave him a car to borrow.
You can do this to get around. Said, you know,
it's all good
go out into the world and he went right back out there and smoked a lot of crack again he did right
out there at his new clothes and got locked got real high because he loves cocaine yeah uh at his
lowest point it said in this article this is a great quote his lowest point prior stood on the
street corners and shadow boxed for tips uh people who pointed at him, left belly laughs and said,
Hey man,
you ain't the champ.
No more.
You used to be the champ.
Not good.
He's the crackhead going,
I was the champ.
And he's yelling at God and people are like,
yeah,
okay dude,
whatever.
It's fucking sad,
man.
Throwing dimes at him to shadow box.
Yeah.
Other times he would fucking literally guys who thought they were tough would
be like,
I'm going to beat this bum up and give him money to fucking fight them because he's the
champ.
And they wanted to see how they stacked up against the champ there.
And at one point he was paid as much as $100 for this, but he actually did it once for
50 cents.
What the fuck?
He fought a man for 50 cents.
Oh my God.
Quote, when I was desperate for a hit.
Oh, my God.
50 fucking cents.
Jesus Christ.
In 1992, his son, Steven, makes his pro boxing debut.
Get out of here.
Oh, good.
This is going to be great.
TKO loss.
Oh, no.
He calls himself the Millennium Hawk.
Ugh.
Doesn't have another fight until 2000.
He actually finishes his boxing career 10-3-1
he wins 10 fights straight and then loses one as a draw yeah he has a decent career in there
uh but he doesn't fight again for 10 years or eight years 1992 uh they're just kind of going
um jesus christ there's like an average day in aaron pryor's life they said he's hanging out in
bars they go through to this one bar
and they're talking to people.
They say he bums a few bucks off the regulars for things.
He bums money off the owner.
The one owner said, quote, I'm feeding him.
They said, there's another guy sitting next to him
who said, ask Pryor how much he owes the country preacher.
I love him, but he's done kicked his own ass.
That's what somebody said.
Another guy walks over
from the other side of the bar and asks uh ask him how much he owes himself about that's a hell
of a that's the question right there yeah uh they'd say that uh larosa wanted to set him up
in the restaurant business wanted to like get him a job as a manager and some pizza then maybe yeah
give him a franchise that he could run get him on his feet but he said prior could never hold a job he said he'd show up for the first day or two and then he just call it
quits never call again he said you could quote you could depend on his undependability if nothing
else he once lost a 25 000 check he was notorious for skipping workouts blowing off interviews being
late for public appearances and planes he left rented cars at the curb he was
so easily sidetracked you could send that kid to a store and he wouldn't come back for two days
motherfucker so that's what he was he would be doing smoking fucking crack unless it was a
crack house opening that's the thing it was a big opening you could find him there yeah that's that
now he would be there with the only one suit on his top, like we said, spinning his cane. Hey, a new crack house is open.
Very distinguished.
The guy, LaRosa says, I encourage him to get a job,
but he's not suited for a normal job.
He said, you and I can go next door.
We're anonymous.
We can put down on the application what we've done before and be considered for a lot of jobs.
What's Aaron going to write down?
Former junior welterweight champ?
I'm not saying that he shouldn't be doing something.
He should.
He just needs to put something back into his life that can give him the fulfillment and pride that
he feels he lost is there a crack tester does that job exist oh there is well yeah yeah they
have their testers yeah when they put out shit on the street they they give it they have their like
their regular crack heads that they their testers they get that shit out so fuck yeah to see if
it's good that's what they should give to him the crack heads are like that shit's fucking fire
then they know yeah that's how they that's what they should give to him. The crackheads are like, that shit's fucking fire. That's a good job.
Yeah, that's how they do it.
It's qualified.
Who knows it better than a crackhead?
So he said, I'd like to see him working with kids.
Oh, no.
He's great for them.
Plus, they might have crack he can borrow.
People on the street chide him.
Get a job, they say.
One man suggested he apply at McDonald's.
He said, though, he'd rather contemplate suicide,
which is what I've really been doing for a long while,
than flip hamburgers.
That's what he said.
So, yeah.
La Rosa hired a private detective
to fly down to Florida and rescue him.
He said, quote,
what I found was an animal, not a person.
I had about as much chance of persuading him to leave
as getting a polar bear out of Alaska.
Yeah, he said he was hanging out
in liberty city crack houses all over miami and liberty city in miami uh during the whole you
know all of his his uh hiatuses he said his matchups all went up in smoke everything was
all because of coke because of crack basically uh they were it was a it was a fucking mess he
said he got some bad managers after that, a couple of Cuban managers in Miami
who are running another business
and using Aaron's money to use their payroll,
stealing from him.
Pryor says he's too poor to do drugs right now,
he says, but in the same breath,
he also says, quote,
if I'm depressed enough, like right now,
I may say there's a lot of people who make mistakes,
but there's a lot who get it right.
I'm stuck as far as getting it right.
I just need a chance.
You see, I have nothing to fall back on.
I say to myself, get yourself right.
Get yourself off drugs.
But what the hell am I going to do?
I need drugs.
Unbelievable.
I say, dude, but then I'm like, I like drugs.
What a life.
What the fuck?
What has happened?
At this point, he's mainly panhandling.
That was it they said uh
at one point this reporter was looking for him and asked the preacher uh there that he knows and
they said you looking for him check the iga down the road he stands out there and panhandles
outside of the grocery store uh one person says they was filling up his car one time when a guy
walked up to him and introduced himself as aaron pryor the boxer and begged for a couple bucks uh yeah it's it's fucking sad uh they said he gets
drug money by working at the downtown business district uh one guy here his friend says aaron
is street smart he sees a guy in a business suit shakes his hands asks for 20 bucks the guy says
hey can i get an autograph for my son johnny a, sure. But by the time he gets to the end of the street, he's got 100 bucks.
So he's just talking.
He knows how to play people.
He says, yeah, I've done it a few times.
I could have been in a tight situation, but if I really needed the money, I could call friends.
And he says that friends keep away from him, LaRosa saying, because he always wants money.
They say you have to stay away from people who won't help themselves.
Otherwise, they'll wear you down. But still uh gets money off of larosa he calls him and
asks for quote rent money all the time uh yeah uh he was a stock clerk at one point for a minute
uh prior was at a supermarket and uh uh i guess uh larosa gave him a $200 a week salary to work.
I'll give you $200 a week if you keep that job.
And it didn't quite work out.
He says that the place, quote, shit-canned him.
And yeah, that was it.
They got rid of him and nothing.
He says that all his money is, he's got nothing now, is what he says.
He says he's got shit, nothing, that's it.
He calls for rent money, all of this thing.
He says, Pryor says, sometimes, La Rosa, that's it.
La Rosa will tell him, make him swear he's not going to use money for drugs.
And then he said he always has to meet him to give him the money so he can look me over,
is what he said here.
Check him out.
Give him a whole once over and make sure he's not high.
Yep.
And he did.
And he said one time he gave him the money and prior disappeared for several days, returning
in bad shape.
He learned later that the cops had picked him up in this car.
His 30-day tags had expired.
And the car was sold at auction offer after he failed to claim
it he didn't have the money to get it out out of our impound so uh yeah so la rosa said he bought
him a car too and it also ended up in the impoundment lot and he said aaron doesn't know
anything about running a life it's frustrating because you just want to say sit down and do it
this way and everything will be okay but it doesn't work that way he comes from a different
place his whole frame of reference is different from mine.
He grew up downtown.
That's where Aaron knows everybody.
That's where family and relatives are, the place he goes to.
He's a representative of that part of town, the forgotten people. There are thousands of them out there right now, just like Aaron Pryor.
Chaos.
Chaos.
93, drug-free.
93 and drug-free, he's saying.
He says at this point, he's becoming a Baptist minister.
He's going gonna be an associate
baptist minister he's gonna coach young boxers and he says 93 beat his addiction and he's over
it's good good now okay he's going on a crusade against illegal drug use oh jesus crusade from
the lord yeah lord keep this taste out of my mouth that should be your crusade ronnie and
the republicans already did this yeah it didn't it didn't work uh so he became a deacon and also a boxing trainer uh-huh he ended
up uh meeting his sons as well he really finds his sons and we'll talk about this in a minute here
uh nice he uh he's been helping a bunch of people one of his students at this point is a teenaged
adrian broner really who we know all about one of the students one of the students we mentioned that in the episode that he was trained by aaron prior and i remember saying
and we'll do an episode about him someday uh yeah uh prior also earned income by selling his own
memorabilia and going on the speaking circuit trying to tell people about his story and then
probably trying to get crack from them so uh yeah his family said they were uh his when
he got clean his girlfriend now frankie is her name like we talked about set up a reunion among
her sons uh among his sons they all have different mothers and he also has a daughter uh so she this
woman said quote this was at a time when aaron was just recovering and he asked for that he wanted
his male children to get together.
He didn't care about the girl for some reason.
What the fuck, Aaron?
Frankie hooked it up.
That was true love on her part.
So this is how Stephen knew his father.
He did not find out that Aaron was his father until his mother told him while he was watching the Arguello fight.
What?
He's like, that guy's your dad, by the way.
Gee, sound familiar? Which one are you rooting for? Yeah rooting for yeah yeah which one i'd root for the black dude yeah just wink wink if you know what i
mean uh sound familiar uh-huh he sat there didn't know knew who he was his whole life didn't know
his father this is all very very very circular here uh he said years later he was making one
of his comebacks and working out at the Emanuel Center. I consistently went down there and watched him train, never telling him who I was.
Sometime later, my mom introduced us and he recognized me as the kid from the gym.
We bonded ever since.
What the shit?
He would go there and not tell him.
Yeah, he'd just go there and not tell him that he was his son rather than the other guy not telling him that he was his dad.
It's the same shit.
It's so fucking weird.
Incredible.
So then he trains Aaron Jr. and Steven to box.
That's the next level of junior-ness.
Name your kid Jr., then teach him to do the same thing you did.
Exactly.
Jesus.
95, an SI article in Sports Illustrated.
He says that, this is amazing,
he says that he's had a phenomenal life.
No.
He means phenomenal, but he repeats. They said he repeated it. He said a phenomenal life. had a phenomenal life. No. Yeah. No. He means phenomenal, but he repeats.
They said he repeated it.
He said a phenomenal life.
Just a phenomenal life.
It is comical and phenomenal.
He thinks it's a...
You know what?
It works.
Yeah.
This is a phenomenal episode.
This is going to be the phenomenalness of fucking Aaron Pryor.
You're goddamn right.
It has to be.
I have to write that down because i
won't phenomenal phenomenal holy shit uh wow uh so yeah they did talks about this he said uh uh
he's somebody said is it true that you made five million while you were fighting he says
nah it wasn't that much and someone says it was millions though right and he says quote after
buddy took his half the government took his half took their
half then my wife at the time had to have her half everybody got their half and i didn't have
half of nothing oh boy so he took a whole sense divided up into eight halves so many halves and
he none of the halves were his so uh yeah he makes at this point 350 a week giving boxing lessons to
kids in the 90s and training some teenagers and shit like that.
He's driving a guy for a match, actually, while he's doing an interview.
And he's got an old piece of shit car, and it keeps stalling.
At one point, he's praying aloud that the car starts again, and it finally does.
And then finally, when they leave where they were, he sees something hanging down off the bottom of his car.
And he said, it's kind of long and bent and curvy.
And he said, what's that?
And he looks down and he goes, the window, the starter.
I don't know.
Whatever that is.
I can't pay for this shit.
Man can't pay for everything on what I make.
He just can't do it.
So, yeah.
Also, Pryor lives in a small apartment with Frankie at this point.
Right in the same neighborhood where he would buy his crack, which is convenient.
It's kind of a small little house here.
They have a bunch of his memorabilia.
She said she just liked him very much, and he was very nice.
May 1995, he is arrested.
Of course.
After all this, I'm good now, for drunk driving.
Oh, no.
Well, he's seen enough crack, but he's drunk driving, which he shouldn't be doing.
He's arrested at 3 a.m. after being pulled over for driving in the wrong direction on a one way street.
What?
What?
Not that's really drunk.
Yeah.
He's an officer said that.
Yeah, he's charged with going drunk, driving, going the wrong way down a goddamn street.
Right.
In addition to all of this crack and everybody's helped him.
He's a fucking rent money. And where does it stop stop where does it stop i mean no one no one's there to help
him right no one he needs a friend yeah he needs a goddamn friend so bad and he's just out there
one day he doesn't know what to do and then he hears some dogs barking and it's bobby colorado
animal trainer from fredericksburg, Texas. And he says...
How is it you come to arrive here, huh?
You know what?
You know what you need?
Listen, pal.
What did you say you needed more than anything, huh?
Goddamn dog.
A friend.
Yeah.
You know what I got right here?
The best fucking friends you're ever going to have.
Let me tell you.
He'll never shoot you.
All right.
He's never going to hold you hostage. All right. Never going to say never gonna say you raped him i'll tell you i mean even if you do he won't say anything about it he's a good guy you know what i mean but then on the
other hand i don't want you like blowing crack smoke on my dog so you'd be the kind of guy to
be like you want to smoke some crack dog and then my dog's hooked on you know what fuck you i'm
getting out of here you're a piece of shit no i don't have a dollar either i'm sorry i can't even
talk to you anymore i'm going i'm going and poof and a piece of shit. No, I don't have a dollar either. I'm sorry. I can't even talk to you anymore. I'm going.
I'm going.
And poof, in a puff of dog shit and marinara sauce, he's gone.
And that's how that works.
So 1996, Pryor is inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame.
Really?
Absolutely.
He's a great-
Fuck yeah.
He's a world-renowned boxer.
The money's gone.
All of his shit's gone. All of his shit's gone.
He couldn't pay for... He has an old title belt that's held in a bank vault that he can't get.
His mother dies at this point, and he had to borrow money to help pay for her funeral
because he doesn't have that.
He's trying to write an autobiography.
It's just a mess.
He said, quote, I'm just an average fighter, broke at the end of my career.
Every now and then a call will come in for me to fight in Africa or somewhere.
And my friend Ken Hawke will say, you do that and you'll disappoint me.
But I always think about it.
One more fight.
Going into the Hall of Fame has kind of killed that dream.
So, yeah, I could imagine that.
You're good.
Once you're in the Hall of Fame, that's enough.
He says that he hopes they name a street after him someday in Cincinnati.
He says, I don't know if they're going to name a street after me one of these days,
but if I do, I hope I'm still alive, and I hope it's not an alley.
The one you used to bike crack on.
Exactly.
That's where he should do, in a crack of neighborhood.
Aaron Jr. about this says, quote, it's an honor.
I was just so proud of my dad when he got inducted just so proud of him from where he was to all the work
he did to get where he got to in boxing his greatest comeback in life was when he was down
and people gave up on him and he came back to the top that's a true champion 1999 he's voted by the
america the associated press as the world's best light welterweight champion of the
world's best light welterweight of the 20th
century. How about that? Of the 20th
century. Can you imagine?
That's insane. Why the fuck
is that a thing? The best light welterweight of
the 20th century. To wind up where he wound up.
That's insane, isn't it? Yeah.
2002, he was
ranked as the 35th greatest
boxer of any weight class from the last 100 years by the
ring magazine unreal of all time i mean that's insane yeah crack crack crack crack crack need
to smell crack gotta have it 2003 uh he says quote while boxing has really helped me i don't want to
walk around thinking about my last fight i don't want to walk around thinking about the trouble i
used to be in i want to have good things on my mind fight. I don't want to walk around thinking about the trouble I used to be in.
I want to have good things on my mind and good things on my agenda.
August 13, 2005, Aaron Jr. makes his pro debut in boxing with a TKO win.
How about that?
He's a super middleweight.
He's 6'4". I don't know how the fuck he has a 6'4 kid, but he's 5'6", but good for him.
He would go on, Aaron Jr., to have a 21-11-2 record, and he is still active.
How about that?
Yeah, last fight was in December of 2018, and he's got a fight set for September of this year.
Great.
So root on Aaron Jr.
He's had it tough.
So, I mean, and these kids, they have had it tough.
I mean, between them, their whole family, his mom, I mean, it's got to be hard to have his name.
I can imagine. I mean, I feel bad for him. between them their whole family his mom i mean it's got to be hard to have his name and not i
mean i feel bad for him i feel bad for all these people jimmy but not nearly as bad as i feel for
aaron prior information security engineer at h&r block would you let him watch your money god no
fuck no this is in lee's summit missouri now aaron prior controller at broad river rehab
look about handing the fucking cookie jar.
Jesus Christ.
I was particularly proud of finding that one.
I would say Asheville, North Carolina.
Aaron Pryor, welder at Heavy Equipment Rentals.
Another thing I don't want to crack at doing.
Drug test the shit out of him.
All these jobs are jobs that he shouldn't have. And finally, Aaron Pryor, chief financial advisor, managing director at Aclaro Valuation Advisors in the Omaha area.
It's a financial services firm.
Again, no.
Going to sink all your money in Coke.
I'm going to have a solid portfolio for you.
How do you feel in diversifying in Coke and crack?
I figure, look, all right.
Half of it in powder Coke, the other half just one big mountainous rock of cocaine.
See, I'm going to cook it now, and it's going to be completely different.
It'll be worth more.
I can take your pile of cocaine.
I can turn it into a big giant rock that'll be worth twice as much just like that.
100% flip right now.
No idea.
I can do it.
So, 2006, the New York Jets invite Aaron Pryor to speak to the team.
Why?
That's why they always lose.
They invited a crackhead to speak to their team.
I don't fucking know.
Do they know that he's a boxer?
Who's this crackhead?
He's an athlete.
I don't know.
After everything he went through and asked everybody if they had $5 he could borrow.
But apparently to overcome diversity, this is the guy here.
2014, Aaron Pryor is voted as the greatest light welterweight in boxing history by the Houston Boxing Hall of Fame, which is kind of a big deal.
Its voting body is composed entirely of current and former boxers.
So that's very is it worse to give him the awards
based on where he is now or just like just ignore him yeah just pretend well yeah how hard is it to
bring a crackhead on stage to yeah an acceptance speech jesus christ well it's a lot easier to
ignore him now because on october 9 2016 he died no god damn it he's dead now it's
really easy to ignore i guess it's nice that they gave him all the awards before he died to see
himself yeah he did get to make a comeback he never got since that 96 arrest for the drunken
driving he hadn't been in trouble ever uh done nothing but church work and boxing training and
they said he just he'd go around they said like he'd take these
boxers to their matches and it'd be like in some shithole like shed and everyone's in like overalls
and warm-up pants and he's in a suit and tie with shine shoes trying to be like professional and
he's trying very very hard wow but he dies on october 9th 2016 at 60 years old uh cause was
complications from heart disease his wife now frankie said in a statement
uh she said that he overcame addiction became a minister and campaigned against drug abuse
and uh his wife was still with him also he has a grandson aaron the third no fucking way it
continues jimmy it fucking goes on and on and on and on holy shit this is a song that never ends
fucking my god i am luigi bizarro my friend sorry that's sucking my head too now so larosa his
manager says quote in the ring the only other person i would put in a class with aaron as a
baseball player his name name's Pete Rose.
You put Pete Rose on a diamond and you knew he was going on all over.
Aaron was that way when you put him in the ring.
Charlie Hustle.
That's what he's saying.
Aaron could box when he had to box.
He could punch when he had to punch.
Stamina.
He'd wear you down.
What more can I say?
He was just a champion inside the ring and a good-hearted guy outside the ring, just like Aaron Jr. said.
He'd give you the shirt off his back and then he'd try to fall it up and put it in a pipe and smoke it.
But he would give it to you first before he tried to smoke it.
I'd give you his shirt and then be like,
can I have $5?
$5.
Yeah.
Got like 50 cents.
I'll fight you for 50 cents and a shirt.
That's so heartbreaking.
It is man.
So La Rosa doesn't said he'll never expect to see another fighter like Pryor.
He says, quote, I'm not sure if that void will ever be filled because of Aaron's talent.
He said, no fighter fights with the excitement Aaron brought.
He's certainly going to be missed around here.
Aaron would take the kids on the corner out to get ice cream.
He was tough in the ring, but a sweetheart outside of it.
Mrs. Pryor here, whose wife said that the world knew him as the Hawk
and we knew him as a husband, dad, and granddad.
Really, I would like to say his greatest accomplishments
were being a dad and granddad.
Can't get enough of Aaron Pryor?
Yeah.
Well, you can get some cool fucking memorabilia
if you want to dish out some cash.
Gamedaysportsmemorabilia.com
has an Aaron Pryor signed black everlast glove oh full size
water bottle it's a yeah it's a sweet water bottle full size dude not one of these mini
shitty ones like a real boxing glove here not ring worn but it's a boxing glove from that era
173 dollars not that not that bad and denverautographs.com has an aaron pryor autograph
boxing trunks they're his ones they say prior the white
ones with the shit on them and they're signed really cool really awesome 129.99 for really
yeah so if you like aaron pryor there's some cool shit you can get and uh outside of the crack and
you know the questionable rape yeah you know otherwise just uh fucking shorts those shorts
are badass that's kick they're fucking awesome i saw those two are they brains are so cool no
they're not framed but you can frame oh that's the coolest you gotta you have to frame them they'd be
so yeah and dope framed yeah those are dope because that glove's a motherfucker to frame i
don't know what you do a shadow box you'd have to almost put in one of those plastic cases yeah
or a shadow box you know what i mean yeah yeah but no that's the way you do it you got those
shorts the trunks are bad the trunks are cheaper too so what the hell but that's aaron pryor
everybody uh that's one i've been sitting on for about two and a half years.
That's really terrible.
That I've wanted to do.
And it's a fucking tragic story.
It really is.
Literally one of the most talented people we've...
As talented as any...
He's as good at his sport as just about anybody we've ever done.
I mean, maybe not as good as OJ was at football, but actually, probably.
Yeah, I think he was, actually.
I mean, he's in the top 35.
Is that what he said?
Of all time?
Of all time.
For every weight class. Every weight class, yeah. Fuck. probably yeah i think he was actually i mean he's a top 35 is that what he said of all time for the
for every weight class every weight class yeah fuck he's he's a friend for his weight class he
is undoubtedly top three of all time wow in his weight class so i mean you can't and pound for
pound he's just a bad motherfucker and like i said even if you hate boxing because it's boring
do yourself a favor and watch any of his fight any of them don't even tell you which one pick
any of them and then tell me that if you saw that and then watch an mma fight you wouldn't be like
wow mma is boring as fuck i wish those guys would stand up and start swinging on each other because
this fucking wrestling around is annoying so anyway that is uh aaron pryor and i hope you
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We'll give you a hug even.
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else any more people in there. We wish we could,
but it's only 300-something people.
So, small venue, sold out quick.
We apologize. We're going to try to set up a few more
around the country, try to kind of pair them
with small-town murders. Maybe we'll
get a west coast, a midwest,
and an east coast. That's our goal.
Far enough away to where we're not
impeding on our other
markets, but just see how it goes.
We're going to give it a shot.
So do that.
Get on there.
You can also follow us on social media.
That's a thing to do.
That way you can know when these tickets come out and when we're going places.
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and at Small Town Murder on Instagram there.
And if you want to be one of our producers, damn it,
one of these people we're going to talk about in a second
because these are the most spectacular people in the world.
They really are.
We can't say enough about them.
They keep the show going.
They make this a show.
If you notice, this is an ad-free episode this week.
So we did all this, and it's ad-free.
We're not making any money off it, and these people make the show go
because they're like, you know what? We're going to donate money. We're not making any money off it. And these people make the show go. Because they're like, you know what?
We're going to donate money.
We appreciate a long episode with no commercials.
So thank you so much for everything you do, guys.
So, Jimmy, I would like you to hit me with that list like a 22 grazed across my abdomen.
This week's executive producers are Justin Miller, Clay Thorson, who he lost his pup
and he went and got two new ones, Loki and Odin the pug.
Good for you.
Good for you, Clay.
Cheryl Rice.
Lucy is white trash from Murphy Murphy.
Hey, you know what?
Good for you, Lucy.
Good for you.
You know what?
I am also Lucy, so it's fine.
Hey, you know what?
Don't worry about it.
You know what?
Murphy Murphy, you can go fuck yourself.
Jessica Winkler.
Gina Kudajaroff.
Delinda Andrews.
Andrews Luingi, I think.
And she came to a show.
Oh, cool.
I think she came to, you know what?
Don't look at me.
Tampa, Orlando.
Yeah, these shows blend together.
We apologize.
Yeah, they do.
Not the people, the shows themselves.
John Donnelly, Amanda McConnell, and Meredith Ottery.
Thank you all so, so much.
We can't do this without you.
Other producers this week are Tyler Frazier, Sonny Johansson, Shalima Althaus.
You know what?
I've done this before.
Althaus, Althaus, Althaus.
One of those.
Amanda Gibson, Thomas Smith, Abdul Jan or John, Grace Brunais or Brunai, Fabio Raimondi.
Raimondi.
You're on a roll.
Damn it.
Margie Coons, Belinda Reed, Cynthia Biddle.
She says, SPF yourself.
Put some fucking sunscreen on.
That's what she means.
Yes.
Good for you.
That's her message.
I like that message.
That's a good message.
Carol Braun.
Thanks, Carol.
Appreciate you.
Welcome around again.
She donates both ways, but she donated through PayPal this week just to remind us. We love you. Thank you, Carol. Appreciate you. Welcome around again. She donates both ways, but she donated through PayPal this week just to remind us.
We love you.
Thank you, Carol.
Thank you.
Faye Bader, Pump the Drakes.
I don't know what that is.
Lauren Smith, Jude Kendall, Matt Avery, Jesse Hartman, Tyler Sheets, Craig Larson, Jenna
XL, Paul Ruest.
Hang in there, Paul.
You're doing great, buddy.
Hannah Weber, Kyra Beer. No, Kyra
Bye. Yes. Haley Ellis.
That's probably wrong.
Amy
Spingath.
Or Spingath.
I'm not good at this.
I'm not good at this. I don't know what
I'm doing. I'm not good at this. Jennifer
Britsman. Emily
Warwick.
I don't know. Damn it, Rebecca Hendricks, James Marder, Therese Maita, Travis Ezell, Elizabeth Nigro, Alice Mullen, Sandra Caves or Cavs, Garrig, Garrig Rock, Kimberly Crawford.
That's my sister's name, but that's not who donated.
It's another person.
Oh, good.
Thank you, Kimberly.
Well, thank you.
Lisa McColgan, Michelle Nguyen, Ashley Vio, M. Betts, Molly Hewitt, Patrick Martin, D. Hall, Sarah Webb, Kelly Bodeker, Courtney Dyvan, Lenny Blunk,
Kristen, no, Christopher, I'm sorry, Christopher Earnshaw, Saint, no, yes, Saint, McNimrod,
David Barnhart, Alexis Seeger, Phil, Phil Mann, Philip, that's you, Janine Walter, alex uh alexis seager uh phil phil man uh philip that you janine walter maddie gallagher gregory
carroll mike stole uh jennifer flores amanda stand stand up for stand eifer uh alicia alicia
massey kate with no last name benjamin and anna in uh in orlando thank you both. Thanks for coming to the show. Chandler Minor. Melissa Glidewell.
Nikki's Shirts and Shit.
Google them.
Find them and buy a shirt.
Isabel Silverstein.
Lauren Boyd.
Jane Richards.
Ian?
Ian or Bl...
I-A-I-N.
Is that Ian?
I think it's Ian, but they spell...
In England, they have...
So many people are named Ian in England. It would come over there. They have 18 different ways of spelling it's Ian but they spell in England they have so many people are named Ian
in England
they have
18 different ways
of spelling it
Ian Black
we'll stick with that
thank you
Jim Underhill
Janie Goulet
or Goulet
stop naming each other
Gareth over there too
it's just Gareth
or not
Gareth is weird
or Gary
Gary
Deborah Brace
Stephen Rood
Gary Howard thanks Gary thanks Gary for everything brotherace. Steven Rude. Gary Howard.
Thanks, Gary.
Thanks, Gary, for everything, brother.
Appreciate you.
Good seeing you.
It was great to hang out with you.
Appreciate you.
Thanks, man.
You got shithoused, but it was fine.
Well, so did you.
Yeah, I did.
We're all right.
Sheena with no last name.
Robin Brand.
Brendan Ables.
Tommy Craig.
June Mendoza Fournier.
Home stretch here.
Renee Kellogg.
Karen Hunsworth. Karen Hunsworth.
Carrie Pauly.
John Love.
Katherine Anderson. Jonathan Kaplan.
McKaylee. McKaylee. McKaylee Osley.
Janelle Coach or Cock.
Omar Little. I see what you did, you son
of a bitch. I know his name.
I don't have to watch the fucking show
to know the guy's name.
Gordon Cazalet Smith.
This is Icaru, I think so.
No, A. Cairo.
No, it's not.
I said Haley Ellis.
She donated both ways.
Thank you, Haley.
Rachel Coleman.
Brittany Dace or Dachi or Dacey.
Nicole Arsenault.
No, Robert.
Robert Ward.
I don't know why I saw Brandon out of Robert because I'm dumb.
Jennifer Britsman. I said that, too. She donated both ways. Thank you, Robert. Robert Ward. I don't know why I saw Brandon out of Robert, because I'm dumb. Jennifer Britsman.
I said that, too.
She donated both ways.
Thank you, Jennifer.
Lane Joseph Mayans.
Kelly Brown.
Johnny Flores.
Eve KB.
Leah Cook.
Cook?
Really?
Flores Hughes.
Lynn Fort.
Kylie Burge.
Doll Wilson.
Rachel Ice.
Mindy Kidd.
David Renazzi.
And Total Axe
and all of our Patreon supporters.
You guys are fucking amazing to us.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much, everybody.
You guys are awesome
and you came through for us as always.
And we can't tell you how much we appreciate
everything that you do for us
because it's a goddamn fact, man.
You make the show go.
Yeah.
So thank you.
And what if somebody wants to thank you, Jimmy,
or shoot you with a 22 or anything?
How could they get a hold of you?
You can find me at Wisman sucks.
W-H-I-S-M-A-N sucks on Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat.
Keep the gunplay to a minimum.
What about you?
Definitely.
You can find me at Jimmy P is funny.
My chair just broke at the end of the episode.
That was nice.
You can find me at Jimmy P is funny, or you can just copy and paste my last name from
the show description because it's long and awful and nobody wants to spell it that said jimmy i think it's time uh it's been a wild
episode this has been all that crime and sports is in one episode it's the essence it's the essence
of crime and sports we've had a lot of those lately it's a chef's kiss fucking nah so live
from the crime and sports studios, we will see you next week. Bye.
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