Crime in Sports - #179 - House Phones & Forehead Punches - The Phenomenalness of Dwight "Doc" Gooden

Episode Date: October 8, 2019

This week, we see what it's like to get everything that you could ever want, by age 20. The spoiler is that apparently results in heavy drinking, bad driving, non-payment of debts, domestic v...iolence, and more cocaine than you could shake a stick at! He lived as high of a life as was possible, and ruined one of the most promising baseball careers in the history of the sport. Just when you think he's good, now... He's most certainly not. Get blackout drunk to break your slumps, always grab a beer for the car, and never, ever stop using cocaine With Dwight "Doc" Gooden!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:04:38 Without further ado, let's get into this because it's the most research i've ever had to do on a case literally this this is more than oj this is a lot yeah this this was a lot uh this i've written several screenplays that were shorter than this episode in terms of pages so if anybody or any writers out there they're gonna go holy shit that's a yes exactly so it's a lot let Let's get into it. So much crazy for Dwight Gooden. Oh, yes. Oh, Doc Gooden. Jesus Christ. You know that. He did not play for the Expos.
Starting point is 00:05:11 But Mets, Yankees, Indians, he got around. Yeah, a couple of devil rays for a minute. He got around. But Doc, if you're not a baseball fan or if you're just not familiar with Doc Gooden, you might be young. I still know because he's getting in trouble right up until this minute. I got to keep checking Google. I had to keep Googling Doc as I'm doing the research to see if he got arrested right up until press time, for lack of a better word.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Five minutes ago. We're going to press. Is Doc out of jail? Is he free right now? Is he free? Has he been busted for coke in the last five minutes? No? Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:05:46 That's what it's like here with Doc Gooden. It's 35. He's been famous for 35 years, and he's been a goddamn disaster the entire time. It's unbelievable. And it's just so much to document. So let's get into it, man. This is OJ plus Rodman divided by Pac-Man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Let's do this shit. Let's get right. Dwight Eugene Gooden. No kidding. I thought you'd have a problem with that middle name for some reason. The both of them. The both of them suck. Dwight and Eugene.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah, together. Very old man names. Dwight Eisenhower. Eugene. You sound like an asshole. Yeah, you sound like a 50 senator. Dwight Eugene Gooden. Senator from Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:06:23 How does he feel? The communists are ruining this country. That's what's happening right here. It's all socialism. Boy, it's the communism, damn it. Not socialist communism. The Red Menace is coming. So Doc Gooden, as we all know him by,
Starting point is 00:06:41 date of birth, November 16th, 1964. Now, Doc, we won't talk too much about his young life because he's just fucked up so much in his adult life. You know what? It outweighs it. It doesn't matter what happened here. How did he get Doc as a nickname? Dr. K. Dr. Strikeout.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Really? That's how they gave him Doc. Really? Yeah. They called him Dr. K. I hate it. Instead of Dr. J. Right. He's the doctor. I hate it so much. It's stupid. But then Doc, Doc Gooden's pretty cool. that's how they gave him that's what yeah they called him dr k i hate instead of dr j right
Starting point is 00:07:05 he's the doctor i hate it so much it's stupid but then doc is doc good and it's pretty cool i've never known him by anything other than because he was that was a stupid name given to him by the you know the press or who knows maybe a mets publicity agent or somebody like that but and then they just you know doc sounded cooler we call a guy dr k that's a stupid name there's already a Dr. J. Right. So it's confusing. So they just go with Doc, which is a pretty cool name.
Starting point is 00:07:30 So anyway, Doc. Doc is the youngest of six kids. Really? So he's the baby. Six, huh? And he's the youngest by far, which is the thing. We'll talk about that in a second. I guess his parents were really good parents.
Starting point is 00:07:44 He came up in a loving, structured home. We're not talking a dirt floor living room. We're not talking any crazy Willie Mays Aikens antics. Hardworking, middle class people. Yeah, there's no prostitutes coming in and out. Nobody's getting pulled out of the home and drugged to jail or anything like that. Nothing crazy. These are people that take care of their six kids and they you know they're they're nice care caring good
Starting point is 00:08:10 parents these people uh mother very strict apparently which six kids you gotta you gotta be you gotta be kind of strict i think just to keep your house in order and not have it you're outnumbered you better that's ridiculous yeah you're outnumbered by far like they doubled you up plus one they have a leader and then he's got a squadron of double your power it's not good uh and his dad i guess was a very very good dad very attentive always there this is not this is not your typical crime and sports upbringing because this this is your usually we have the uh either the father ran so far away they were never found again immediately or they stuck around beat the living shit out of everybody and caused a problem or the opposite they were so over involved that they gave their kids you know made
Starting point is 00:08:58 them chew on kidneys and do calisthenics when they were six months old the fucking they were the most important little kid in the world the capriatis and the marinoviches and those people like there's that and this is a rarity art schlichter that kind of thing this is different this is a father who was had a healthy connection with his son his son said he liked baseball so he helped his son be good at baseball didn't force him to do shit didn't drag him places didn't make him just was like if you like it good thing for good for you i'll support you all right just we very right it's like the second or third time this has happened so doc has he really has no excuses none for being a fuck up in his life i would say except for uh he just came up
Starting point is 00:09:41 in a time when it was new to be that kind of famous and an athlete and that rich. He came up young, man. And Coke was considered just a fun... Right. He grew up in the time that it was actually an exciting thing to do. Yeah, it wasn't like, ooh, that's bad. It was like that was a cool thing to do for those people. It was mystique rather than stigma.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Yeah. Well, Gooden says, Doc says about his dad, quote, I remember being about six or seven watching games with him on Saturdays and he'll have his beer and chips and I'll have my juice and cookies and what have you. So this is what I mean.
Starting point is 00:10:13 He had a good upbringing, good relationship with his parents. He said that his parents helped kind of shield him from all the outside shit that allowed him to concentrate on baseball. Rather than forcing him to concentrate on baseball, they just made it easy for him to concentrate on baseball. And he liked baseball and was really good at it.
Starting point is 00:10:33 What the hell happened? Well, that's the problem. And with a guy like Doc Gooden, certain guys that we talk about, it's like they, like a guy like Dennis Rodman wasn't special early. He wasn't, he was, didn't even come to Grotesburg. He wasn't special early. He wasn't. Right. He didn't even have a growth spurt. He wasn't even special until after he was. In the NBA, for God's sake. Like, he didn't even have a growth spurt until after high school. No one ever took him aside in the 10th grade and said, hey, buddy, you're special.
Starting point is 00:10:57 No. No one ever did that. So there's like a. Give him an application to be a janitor. Yeah. That's a different thing. And he wasn't stealing watches from the airport. mean that's airport gift shop watches gooden is a different story because gooden is he's a he's a when you throw 100 miles an hour when you throw 98 99
Starting point is 00:11:15 miles an hour yeah man people see that when you're 12 that you have an arm is different than everybody else and they take you aside right and it's he had you have a different upbringing you're told you're not like everybody else like yeah they're all but you make sure to focus because you actually have something special it's a weird thing that that they do with kids i don't know how it affects them uh exactly but are you gonna get deeper into the family because i just want to know how just for a second how did he who's who's related to who to get strawberry and him together strawberry and him from what i understand are not like really related they're not real cousins they're they're like cousins but
Starting point is 00:11:50 eight people removed do they both have that weird head eight people removed they're just both from tampa and they came up at the same time okay i feel like that's that's just a tampa head it's the roosters that's the problem it's a rooster disease that everybody gets and it makes your head weird. The rooster flu. It's a rooster flu that your mom gets when she's pregnant from being in Tampa. And then it's from the incubation fever. We'll say this over and over. Get your shit together, Tampa.
Starting point is 00:12:17 We were there. Get it together. You have roosters just there. They're in charge. They're running. People would stop their cars to get out to shoot roosters just there. They're in charge. They're running the street. People would stop their cars to get out to shoot roosters away. What the fuck kind of third world horseshit is that? Get your head out of your asses.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Clear the livestock from the streets and let's have a goddamn civilized down here. What are we doing? Barbecue the fuckers on a street. Good Lord. Get rid of them one way or another. No, you just can't do it. They're disgusting to all of them one way or another no you just can't do it they're disgusting too all of them they all look diseased they're walking around like they're ready to peck you and give you
Starting point is 00:12:50 something i'm sure that they're wonderful and you should preserve them great pen them all in and preserve them give them a big giant area throw corn to them in the morning as much as they want i'm not saying be mean to the roosters but what the fuck is happening man all hours of the day and night they're crowing this is the fucking problem is this a society or not figure it the fuck out what happened well it is florida so sort of so now doc says quote when i got about 10 i remember my dad asking me how much did i like baseball i said i like it a lot and he said well how much i said i like it where maybe i could be on tv he said okay so from that point on he was basically uh going to live out his dream where after work he'd take me to the field and help me do all these drills so he was like if you want my help i'll help you and he
Starting point is 00:13:36 was like yeah let's do it so he's like all right but i mean that's when he was 10 yeah he didn't get him in a crib and start working his calf you know his hamstrings and shit he waited till he doc had an interest in it so he was like He waited until Doc had an interest in it. So he was like, if you have an interest in it, I'll help you. Exactly the right level of support you should have as a parent. Exactly that. Somehow. It's not your fault, basically.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Sometimes you just can't help it. Sometimes you're predisposed to loving world takes you man fucking chaos the world takes you loving cocaine it's a you know uh he says and this is weird quote my nearest sister is 13 years older than me his nearest nearest so they had five so think about what kind of the level of he's the baby that is they had five kids that were probably ranging from you know 13 on 13 to 20 yeah you know who knows they had their five kids and then like when they were all getting older they were like we should have you miss having a baby i miss having and then they had a baby that conversation probably fuck up
Starting point is 00:14:34 no or fuck up but it seems like maybe it was that conversation like they like because if you have five kids you like having kids we're almost done you like having kids you don't want to do it you know you don't want to do more because couples do that shit one more one more and then i'm out baby let's have one more if you want it i'll do it now and then all the tomorrow no all the other siblings are going to be doting on this kid because it's a baby and they're all five he's the baby i mean he's so i mean you can see how you would get that coddled kind of yeah i don't know privileged i guess you'll never have to change a diaper baby let's just do one more everyone's gonna be changing you oh boy so by the time you're done having these fucking kids so yeah he says uh i don't want to say i was spoiled but i had what
Starting point is 00:15:15 i wanted growing up once i got to the big leagues it happened so quickly for me i got caught up in it so yeah he was a spoiled kid basically i mean I mean, not spoiled, but he didn't want for shit. And he didn't even know that wasn't normal. He just was like, yeah, everybody takes Gary and shit. He's got seven people in his house doing it every day. Yeah, and his parents had time because they were older and the other kids were older. So they had time to cut. By the time he was 10, his youngest sister's 23.
Starting point is 00:15:43 The nearest sibling's 23. He's the only one in the house. So the dad has time to concentrate. The other five kids, it was like, well, I'll play baseball. Get the fuck out there and play it. I don't know. Play with each other. Dad's not putting in overtime anymore.
Starting point is 00:15:53 He's damn near at the end of his career. He doesn't have to pay for five kids anymore. They're grown. So, I mean, yeah, it's a different thing. Starts drinking when he's a teenager a little bit. Party in 14, 15. Guys on the team and, you know, baseball team and stuff like that. different thing starts drinking when he's a teenager a little bit partying 14 15 guys on the team and you know baseball team and stuff like that and he said it loosened him up a little bit
Starting point is 00:16:09 because he was kind of an introvert that's what that shit does that's what it does it's it's the idea that's the thing smoked a little bit of weed yeah when you're a 15 year old kid or 16 year old kid and other people are doing shit and you're kind of tight not that it's you should be doing that but it's like that's why kids do it to try to fit in and to try to feel less awkward i think is the thing yeah i don't know what it is that fucking social anxiety i'm not gonna hold that against a feeling not like everybody else is the fucking worst it's terrible and because i mean when you have it when you're 40 yeah you know and you go jesus it was when you think about how much worse it was when you were 15 it's like wow i've come a long way and i still am a fucking mess well when you walk through the grocery store and you don't
Starting point is 00:16:48 feel like everybody else there it's a little different because you walk through the high school walls and those people make fun of you you know what i mean like the people in the grocery store they got their own shit going on yeah yeah they're not there to make funny can you imagine if you were walking through the grocery store and people were just roasting you that'd be amazing people calling you amazing yeah i roasting you. That'd be amazing. People calling you. Yeah. I would hate it. Not amazing in a good way, but amazing in just a, wow, you would walk out shaking your
Starting point is 00:17:12 head every time. Jesus Christ. Things never change. Eight people called me a homo for some reason. I figure if it's like seventh grade, that's the insult you'd be getting. The butcher threw me ground chuck and called me a faggot. What just happened? Yeah, that's not cool.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I don't know. It just sucks, man. that's that's the insult you'd be getting through me ground chuck and called me a faggot this sucks man that's that's middle school that's 14 years old 15 high school early high school that's what people do to each other for some reason stop doing that to each other truly yeah stop calling each other terrible names that generally genuinely hurt feelings yeah stop stop just be nice i i mean it's it's cliche but i like to tell my kids if you see somebody getting picked on fucking be their friend and yeah that's always a nice thing to do and it doesn't work that's hard it's hard because then those kids pick on my kids that's the other thing i've got to go to a school or talk to somebody yeah then you're you think about it as an adult you'd be like well fuck that i'll be his friend somebody comes over i'll tell them to fuck themselves.
Starting point is 00:18:05 But your nine-year-old doesn't think that way. Hey, listen, mister. Hey, angry mob, all of you. Well, that kid gets bullied by all these other kids. And then another kid comes up and tries to be their friend. And they're like, well, I'm weaker than all of them, but you're weaker than me. And then they pick on that kid. Yeah, you're still outnumbered.
Starting point is 00:18:23 That's the problem. And you're still looking for a pecking order. Yeah. So Gooden, though, the thing is his athleticism it trumps all that shit like it's it's i mean he's throwing in the 90s so when you're throwing in the 90s miles an hour wise as a teenager you're you're just special they look at you as special you're you have this it's this weird thing he's a skinny kid and all this shit, but for some reason, you give him a baseball and he can fucking hurl that thing like a bastard. That's pretty amazing. So all through high school, he's a pretty big high school star, as you might imagine,
Starting point is 00:18:54 because two years later, he'll be a phenom in the major leagues. He grew up in Tampa? Yeah, he's a Tampa guy. Wow. Him, Sheffield, Strawberry, He's Sheffield's uncle. They're always together, as we'll find out. That's real? Oh, that's straight up.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah. They get arrested together multiple times. How is that a thing? I don't know the relationship, but he is his uncle. It's probably one of his sister's kids, I would imagine, because he has older sisters. So that way they would be similar in age. That makes sense. I always mix up Sheffield and McGriff.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Really? Well. That's a thing that I always do. That makes sense. I always mix up Sheffield and McGriff. Really? Well, that's a thing that I always do. Interesting. Just because they have that square. One's righty, one's lefty. They're totally different. I never absorb that. Sheffield's got that bat wag.
Starting point is 00:19:35 You can't miss him for anybody. He's the strongest wrist in the history of baseball. I've never seen anybody do that with a bat. Take a major league bat and try doing what he did. Try to dance him. Back and forth with the bat. Move your shoulders. You'll have no feeling in your wrist before a pitch would come to you.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And he did this constantly and then crushed the ball. It's insane. So 1982 amateur draft, right out of high school. Gooden's into it. This draft is Sean Dunstan was the number one overall. Shortstop for the Cubs forever. Absolutely. Doc goes number five overall shortstop for the cubs forever absolutely uh doc goes number five overall
Starting point is 00:20:06 really at a high school and this was an era when uh yeah three out of the top five people were high schoolers nowadays it's a lot more college kids but uh yeah also uh duane ward who played for the braves was in this one todd worel who's for the cardinals forever was in this uh first round rich monteleone a shitty reliever for the yankees that uh jay moore always talks about he loved bob shepherd that's his favorite bob shepherd's the announcer for the yankees an old guy who died they call him the voice of god and he talked like this and he said this was his favorite uh announcer rich monteleone he had the great monteleone monteleone and he said the last name twice, right? Yeah, Monteleone.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Yeah. Number 23. That was Mattingly. It was Don Mattingly. Number 23. That's a great announcer. So, anyway, also in this round, that's the first round, David Wells, the fat Yankee Blue Jay, perfect game-throwing guy.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Barry Bonds... No kidding. ...drafted by the Giants but didn't sign in this one, ended up signing later because he played for ASU. No kidding. Also there. Bo Jackson, drafted by the Yankees here but didn't sign. He went to college, which is interesting. Barry Larkin, drafted here, didn't sign.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Jimmy Key, drafted. Roger McDowell. These are all future. All those people later. Mike Greenwell, Dan Pasqua. Randy Johnson, drafted by the Braves, but didn't sign. Will Clark, Mike Madden, tons of guys. B.J. Surhoff, very loaded.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Mitch Williams, as we remember there. Rafael Palmeiro, Jesus Christ. Mark McLemore, Billy Ripken, Jose Canseco in the 15th round. This is like the steroid draft. Every one of these guys. Brett Saberhagen, Rob Dibble, Jesus Christ, man. This is a the steroid draft. Yeah, it's the 80s. Every one of these guys. Brett Saberhagen. It's Rob Dibble. Jesus Christ, man.
Starting point is 00:21:48 This is a lot of guys. Kenny Rogers. Every one of these guys testified before Congress. Most of them testified before Congress. It's a very who's who of the late, like early 1992. Yeah. Like it's basically a baseball card pile from 1992. This is my top spot.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Yeah. Weird. Weird. So also drafted here on the 13th round urban meyer we talked about this in the conseco episode urban meyer the coach was drafted by the braves and del curry uh that's right you know steph curry's father an nba star uh drafted in the 37th round by the rangers but didn't didn't sign a lot of times the baseball they'll take a flyer on a guy who's an athlete and football used to do that when they used to have 15 rounds yeah they just take like i think dave winfield got drafted in the nfl he never played football they were just like he's a big real six foot seven athletic because they used to have like
Starting point is 00:22:37 20 rounds so the guy in like the 18th round was athletic and you go hey man you want to try it coach saw a tall guy at the grocery store what's his name uh damn it i forgot again the dallas cowboy hall of famer who was an olympic sprinter who they just took on a on a whim they were like let's let's draft that guy in the 15th round even though he's not doesn't play football and maybe he'll want to play football and he ended up being a hall of famer how about that uh fuck damn it bob something damn it god damn it early 60s he was not no i mean bob white no his name wasn't white he said don't look at me he was white i'm like no certainly not so what are you gonna do it was just a dumb guess so 1982 he plays uh in a couple of rookie leagues he plays in rookie ball and he plays an a ball plays in kingsport and little falls and appalachian league and another league there uh kingsport tennessee uh a roommate he said offered him chewing tobacco
Starting point is 00:23:31 in his rookie ball in tennessee he says quote i got sick as a dog and threw up uh i wish i wish cocaine had done that to me i almost just said that so he, he wishes... Don't you wish he got sick from that shit? I wish Coke would have made you go, no, never again. Who knows? He may be dead by now if he liked tobacco, too. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:23:52 If he did tobacco with the fervor that he did cocaine, yeah, he would be eight packs a day. He'd have a cigarette in his ear all the time. No, nothing. So, yeah, in 1983, he plays for Lynchburg, which is uh an a ball team like a high
Starting point is 00:24:08 a or regular a ball goes 19 and 4 that year for them which with a 250 era yeah so i mean right away he's he's 191 innings which is almost a major league level boy was he a great pitcher 300 strikeouts and 191 innings so that's and 112 walks how many strikeouts 300 in a hundred and nine that's that's obscene what that's obscene almost striking out the side every time that's just not even fair that's unbelievable that's i mean when they saw that they're like i we might this is wow because i mean fuck man think about about that. That's bonkers. That's ridiculous. Too many strikeouts. So 84, they call him up. He is up in the beginning of 84.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Well, yeah, let's not waste the arm down there. He is 19 years old, though, which, dude, that is so young to be facing major league hitters and that kind of pressure. And in real world circumstances. And you're not you're not going to. I mean, no offense to, you know, Cleveland circumstances and you're not you're not going to i mean no offense to uh you know cleveland but you're not in cleveland or you're not in minneapolis where they might be a little more you know a little kinder and a little hey let's welcome them in that sort of thing in new york it's like oh they can't wait to crucify a 19 year old if they can just destroy a 19 year old every day on talk radio and in the papers back then over that's
Starting point is 00:25:26 that's a dream because then basically what it would be like uh pitching in new york is if you could get roasted at the grocery store every single time everyone calls you a homo no but it's so but it's it's different too because you're they not to roast you but they want to say what a mistake it is that the team brought up you are here yes like your existence that's how stupid they are you don't bring up a 19 year old kid so they'll look for any reason to say look how terrible he is see how dumb this team is yeah because otherwise what are you going to say the team made a pretty good decision we'll see how it works out does that sell papers no you buy in the fucking daily news i'm not suing in for that the back page has things might work out with a shrugging
Starting point is 00:26:13 steinbrenner on the back no they're not gonna no one's buying that so uh 84 comes up with the mets and he comes up this is a fast group. This is not a group of choir boys. This is Keith Hernandez is the leader of the clubhouse. So if you don't know, Keith Hernandez is he was a fucking bounder, man. This is a guy who just was a coke snorting drink. He's like baseball's Ric Flair, basically. He's just out, you know, showing his cock to everybody. I don't know. He probably didn't actually show his cock, but he might have. But I mean, he was out. He's out sl, you know, showing his cock to everybody. I don't know. He probably didn't actually show his cock. Probably did. But he might have.
Starting point is 00:26:46 But, I mean, he was out. It's 84. He's out slinging it, man. He's out fucking doing coke. He's drinking like a fish. He's at the bar. He told Doc early in his career, if you're ever in a slump, you got to go out and get so hammered that you black out.
Starting point is 00:26:59 You got to get fucking blackout wasted. Then the next day you'll have a good game. What if you don't black out? Yeah. You know what I you got you got to get so wasted you don't even remember what happened that's the only way to break out of a slump unbelievable so that that's the kind of advice they're giving a 19 year old essentially a child who's been sheltered his whole life by his parents and his older siblings and all this type of shit now he's got keith hernandez with coke in his mustache going let me tell you something kid only way to crack a slump is to get blotto you know what i'm saying all right here's some martini for you all right then let's go kid i'm gonna go hit 313 this year and it's fucking weird yeah
Starting point is 00:27:34 just weird wally backman the second baseman and george foster in left field one of my favorite fuck i love george foster one of the scariest looking men of all time. Most frightening. He looked like somebody's dad that would beat your that would beat his kid's ass and your ass for being there with his kid. If his kid fucked up their big old fucking like the Afro mutton chops, which is just a tough look. Is that the guy you were talking about with the baseball cap that barely fits on it? Is that what you're talking about? I don't think so. No, that's not George Foster. Somebody else.
Starting point is 00:28:04 There's a baseball card. Yeah. Yeah. Oh oh that's a somebody from oscar gamble with the afro no no this is you know he had a tight like a shaft afro john george foster but no george foster he had these eyes on him that just looked like you pitch that ball i will fucking smash that shit so far he was a great hitter too just a great player uh mookie wilson this is daryl strawberries rookie year as well so uh yeah he gets in with that crowd right away so daryl strawberry played rookie ball with him also with yeah well strawberry was in front of him okay so he okay got it good and went right from he didn't play like triple a good and went from a ball to the majors which is ridiculous yeah strawberry came up through the system a little
Starting point is 00:28:45 more than that quickly but still you know you can't have a hit or go from a ball to the majors that's not he hasn't seen a curveball yet right you have to at least see a curveball before you go to some shit yeah yeah at least you got to get that those good double a sliders that they have and shit like that so uh this year for the mets uh he goes 17 17-9, 19-20 years old, with a.260 ERA. That's pretty good. And leads the league with 276 strikeouts. My God. So absolutely crushing.
Starting point is 00:29:14 218 innings pitched. He's an all-star. Second in Cy Young balloting. What? 19 years old. What the fuck? 15th in the MVP, and of course, he's Rookie of the Year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:27 And I can't begin to tell you. I was five, six years old when this was going on in New York. I can't begin to tell you how huge he was in New York. He was the biggest thing in the world. I mean, he's just this thing that explodes on the scene. He's a child, for Christ's sake. I mean, a phenom doesn't begin to describe where the hell did he come from this is amazing it was ab people loved him and he's
Starting point is 00:29:51 just and his style of pitching is so exciting too he's long he's lanky throws heat he's got this vicious curveball strikes people out he's exciting to watch he really is so he's the type of guy he'll he's not a guy who's gonna to go out there and, you know, let's get some ground balls, everybody. And, you know, he's going to dominate and bring a lot of excitement to the game. Makes 40,000 bucks for this effort. 40 grand to be the big fish. To be the big shot. The rookie of the year on the All-Star team.
Starting point is 00:30:20 40 grand. Second in the Cy Young voting. Fuck you, I quit. That's amazing. 40 grand from that because he's still in the minor league. What the shit? So that's like minimum for the pro-rated, what he played there. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:33 1985 here. 1985 Mets. This is when the team's starting to get really good. And this is Doc's insane season. This is one of the best seasons in the history of baseball. You can't... We're going to make fun of doc a lot and everything you can't sell short how amazing he was literally his first two years in the majors were you can compare to the first two years of anybody
Starting point is 00:30:55 in the history of baseball and you can make an argument that his is better or even anybody especially his uh anybody's sports anywhere like the The excitement of him coming up and paying off. And paying off. It's so rare. Especially in baseball. Baseball, young people. Baseball is a thing that takes a while. You're not in your game until you're 27, 28 years old.
Starting point is 00:31:16 And then you're in it for like three years and your body breaks down. That's how it works. So if you come up at this age, the only time this happens is with pitchers, really. Once in a while, a hitter. But you'll get a pitcher. Yeah, Chipper Jones, all the excitement around him. Well, I mean, those guys are in the minors for four or five years. You get like a Steven Strausberg.
Starting point is 00:31:34 You get a Doc Gooden. You get these pitchers who are lightning in a bottle. And you're like, Jesus Christ, I don't care if he's 19. He's throwing 98 miles an hour in his curveball. Bounces on the ground from starting at the letters. What am I supposed to do? It's unbelievable. Keep him down there. You've got to bring him up. He's throwing 98 miles an hour, and his curveball bounces on the ground from starting at the letters. What am I supposed to do? It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Keep him down there. You've got to bring him up. So the Mets go 98-64 this year. They're second in their division, which means no playoffs back then, the wild card. 98 games and no playoffs. Oh, that's so insulting. That's rough. Doc, though, Jesus Christ, 24-4 this year.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Wow. Which is ERA 1. is era 1.53 153 and this is the beginning of the steroid there are people that are taking shit in 1985 this isn't 1968 bob gibson on the high mound with a bunch of skinny dudes drinking 12 packs every day there are actual athletes playing in this this is it's. Not saying anything. Bob Gibson's one of my top 10 players of all time. I love him, but this is insane to do this then. It's a different thing. As a kid still.
Starting point is 00:32:33 So 153 ERA, 276.2 innings pitched, 268 strikeouts. It's just a crazy season. Whip under one, all-star. He wins the Cy Young Award this year, and he's fourth in MVP voting. That was when they didn't really want to give it to pitchers ever. Now they don't give a shit. Now they give it to, it's almost them every year. Yeah, because if you look at it that way, that's why it's like, well, yeah, obviously.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I mean, so anyway, he makes $450,000 for this year, so that's a little bit better. 450 grand for this year so that's a little bit better uh goes into 86 and this we won't talk too much more about baseball after kind of this early era here uh 1986 mets this is where they go on their magical amazing met run here 108 and 54 and they go through they beat the astros 4-2 in the championship series which i remember watching on tv very good series and then the famous seven game red sock Sox World Series. We've talked about that with Dykstra. Bill Buckner, you get the idea. The Gooden pitches very well, gets no wins.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Really? He has no postseason wins ever in his whole career, even though he has some very good postseason games. For some reason, he'll come out in the games 1-1, or he comes out with a 2-1 lead, and then they go up you know they ended up being three going down three two and then they end up winning the game or whatever but okay one of those things yeah it gets no decisions a lot no no wins though terrible yeah it's really weird here uh this is the year where they you know this dykstra it's all those guys so So crazy, crazy year there. Doc, 17-6, 33 games pitched altogether here, 250 innings, 200 strikeouts.
Starting point is 00:34:11 His usual self. He's pretty goddamn nasty. 80 walks, 200 strikeouts, only 80 walks. Not bad. He's an all-star, seventh in the Cy Young voting. $1.32 million this year. Now we're talking. Now he's made some coin.
Starting point is 00:34:23 He's made some coin. They go all the way. They're World Series champions, damn it. So now he's 21 years old. Ring on his finger. What the shit? Million bucks. Golden arm.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Three years in the bag, too. That's incredible. He could walk down the street in New York and not even hit the pavement. People would carry him through. Oh, the anointed one. That's how like i was a yankee fan even yankee fans loved him even if you hated the mets you're like oh that good kid jesus christ i mean so good they can't fucking like good god jesus i watch him every
Starting point is 00:34:54 time he's on i hate the mets but you know i'm fucking good when he's on i won't watch that fat sid fernandez throw that fucking ball but he gives that that Ron Darling with his pretty ass out there. I'm not going to watch him, but I'll tell you what. His pretty ass. You get me Doc Gooden out there. I'm going to watch it. All day. All day long. Hey, everybody.
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Starting point is 00:37:22 when you just go to HelloFresh.com slash CrimeInSports80 and enter CrimeIn crime in sports 80 and now back to the show so he's a world champion he also appears in the movie ruthless people that year remember that danny devito and that middler great movie by the way hilarious good classic devito just class judge reinhold yeah who the fuck was he he played a quote pitcher so i'm sure it was they were at a baseball game he's playing duck good i'm sure and like a you know yeah met hat with no logo probably i don't remember i haven't seen the movie it's a blue hat with orange stripes yeah that's enough so now he's 21 which is physical, you know, you don't get any better than that
Starting point is 00:38:09 physically. In a movie with Danny DeVito. 21 in a movie with very, very funny fucking people. Rich as shit. Million dollars in the 80s. Yeah. Cocaine, all around, clouds of it. He doesn't even have to lay it down.
Starting point is 00:38:23 He just puts his head up. Puts his tongue in the air. It's everywhere's everywhere like snowflakes it's all over the place world series champion grace right it doesn't get better than that right god damn it that's grace man how heartbreaking is that that's i mean it's pretty good yeah he had it for three years it's pretty good. Yeah. He had it for three years. It's about as good as it gets. The bummer, that's the fucking price that athletes pay. He's worked for three years, worked his ass off. He's achieved. He's made $2 million. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Combined. Combined. All of it. Total. Yeah. That's horrible. You blow your arm out tomorrow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:00 He made $2 million. $2 million. Best of luck, kid. Yeah. Unless you got a huge contract. Good fuck. That's horrible. It's bucks. Best of luck, kid. Yeah, unless you got a huge contract. Good fuck, that's horrible. It's tough. That's a tough thing.
Starting point is 00:39:07 These athletes, when they go for these big contracts and people get mad and it's like, they could be done at 30. It could all end tomorrow. Imagine if you told someone, you're not going to be allowed to make money doing the thing that you went to college for and did all that training for. 30 is going to be, and it could be any day. It's not like you're going to go, well, I'll retire when I'm 37. You could just be feeling great one day
Starting point is 00:39:27 and then just your body gives out, shits out on you, you're done that day. Try that, Mr. CPA. Yeah. See if that works out for you. You think somebody comes in and just tells you
Starting point is 00:39:36 you can't CPA anymore. And then you get mad. Sorry, but you just can't count. You can't hack it anymore. I see you trying. Your fingers have gotten too fat for the calculator, chief. It's over for you. That's what happens You can't hack it anymore. It's over. I see you trying. Your fingers have gotten too fat for the calculator, Chief. It's over for you.
Starting point is 00:39:47 That's what happens, though, with these people. You broke those fingers too many times. Hope your 401K is paying off. That's what I mean. Best of luck. You don't blame these guys for looking for a little guaranteed dough here. So now it's grace because the World Series Parade comes around, and this is the first time the Mets have won since 69 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:05 It's a big deal. Yeah. So it's a big deal in New York. It really is. Or was it 71 after that? I don't remember. They know they went against the Orioles. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Anyway. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's been a minute. It's been at least 15 years since they won the World Series is what I'm saying. So people are a bit excited. Parade's a big deal, and he is one of the core few stars of the team i mean if there's people with jerseys on at least half of them are his probably it's one of those deals so the parade
Starting point is 00:40:31 goes on uh doc doesn't show up though why he's supposed to yeah he misses it uh he says for years uh he tells everybody that he had a uh a hangover and uh he actually didn't have a hangover. He was still fucked up, still fucked up from the night before. He said, quote, this was in a ESPN interview. He said, for myself, a lot of times I get to a certain point using drugs. The paranoia sticks in. So I end up leaving the party with the team going to these projects of all of all places in Long Island and hang out there.
Starting point is 00:41:04 No, he leaves his team's World Series party to go to the projects. No. No. Get the fuck out of there. If you're, that's, you're not your world anymore, chief. Go somewhere. It never was. No.
Starting point is 00:41:15 That's the thing. He says, then you know what time you have to be at the ballpark to go into the city for the parade. But I'm thinking, okay, I got time. And the clocks, clocks i mean the rooms are spinning i said okay i'll leave in another hour then the next thing you know the parade's on and i'm watching the parade on tv here supposed to be that i've got hey look at that i'm the grand marshal there's an empty space right there big doc dr k behind it what the fuck uh he says here
Starting point is 00:41:42 i am in the projects in a drug dealer's apartment with guys i don't even know with drugs in the house watching it it's a horrible feeling yeah i would say so who are these fucking strangers yeah you you can't have that on the front side of grace no that's a that's a back down side of grace yeah it's that's what i mean oh also right after this he has a son dwight jr no he didn't. He absolutely did. Why did you do that, Doc? God damn it, Dwight. I mean, it's fitting.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Parade's one thing, but I mean, missing a parade and naming your kid Jr., you have passed grace, sir. And missing the parade for Cokes. Sinking like a stone right now. Oh, boy. It's rapid. Free fall. Like the blue one on the fucking titanic it's that it's just
Starting point is 00:42:26 that sheer face on the grand canyon that's the abyss there where you look down it's just a sheer wall for three miles he is going we're looking down on an eagle fly and you're like whoa it's high up here so uh and the mets sort of make it worse too uh that season because in the off season now he's obviously falling into a, if you miss anything, especially the fucking parade, which is kind of a big deal, literally in New York, millions of people show up for those parades. It's not 100,000 people. I remember the Yankee parade in 96.
Starting point is 00:42:56 There was 3 million people there. Right. That's a big parade. That's the winner. When the Suns went to the, and they lost. You couldn't... Every street was flooded with people. Which is insane. Hundreds of thousands of people for losers. In New York, when you lose something, you get back.
Starting point is 00:43:11 They wouldn't... You wouldn't do a parade. No. Because you're like, they're going to throw shit at us. I know it. They're going to treat us like returning Vietnam vets. Like fucking losers. That's the...
Starting point is 00:43:18 Well, don't blame the vets. No, but you know what I mean. Jesus, it's not their fault. They were treated poorly. They were treated poorly. We're going to come back and get spit on. They were treated poorly, is what you're saying. Yes, they're not going to be honored for their efforts at all.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And that's how it goes. Whereas Phoenix, they're like, you guys try. Way to go. Let's have a parade anyway. Isn't it beautiful outside? It's not for them. It's for us. What?
Starting point is 00:43:39 We aren't going to get another one. This is it. Let's fucking celebrate it now. We've never had a goddamn thing. gonna get another one this is it let's fucking celebrate it now we've never had a goddamn thing so now after the 86 season the mets noticed that their team has some issues with substance and partying this is a wild bunch i mean we got dykstra strawberry yeah there's good and heath hernandez then you got gary carter who's like mitt romney basically like he's not a mormon i don't think but he's he's like mr family man doesn't go out doesn't party hey guys come on now let's calm it down so they're
Starting point is 00:44:09 all like fuck you gary the rest of the the rest of the locker room's an na fucking meeting that's what it is except there it's for coke it's to get it it's yeah it's it's narcotic it's it's any narcotics enthusiastic is what it's called going to my any meeting narcotics and enthusiasts so uh yeah he uh he what they did is they said all right we think we understand what the problem is we're gonna get rid of a guy who we think stirs up the shit turns out it was the opposite of that they get rid of kevin mitchell you know kevin mitchell the giants player who fucker yeah great player unbelievable seven hom one year, caught that ball barehanded. It's a famous highlight.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Mitchell came up hard. Mitchell's family is all in gangs. Oh, he's seen hood shit. Rod played with him. Rod Beck, my friend, played with Kevin Mitchell. At the Giants. At the Giants. And he said, Kevin Mitchell, great guy.
Starting point is 00:45:01 He said, he's a real motherfucker. All his family, they're all straight gangs. And that's all he knows. They're all gang people from San Diego. He says, Kevin Mitchell comes to the... Everybody else comes all the shit to the ballpark. Kevin Mitchell comes to the ballpark with the back of his truck or the back of his car lower than the rest of it. What's in there?
Starting point is 00:45:22 Oh, coins, because I just went to all my coin op laundries and fucking emptied them out no kidding he's like businessman like that like i'll go get my own fine i don't even trust anybody i go collect my own coins and i go to the ballpark with fucking a trunk full of coins so my catalytic converter scraping as i come in that's the type of cat kevin mitchell was though but kevin mitchell was actually a good influence they thought he was corrupting strawberry and gooden because they were like, oh, this ghetto motherfucker over here, all this gang shit, he's probably corrupting them. Meanwhile, he was just street smart and knew who the
Starting point is 00:45:52 people to avoid. And he, Mitchell knew what he was about, and he wasn't going to let people take him in any direction because he came up knowing shit, whereas these two didn't, especially Gooden. He came up very sheltered with this shit. So they thought he was corrupting him, and he wasn't. sheltered with this shit so uh they thought he was corrupting him and he wasn't uh uh davy johnson the manager says quote it which it was a mistake
Starting point is 00:46:10 uh mitch would have one or two drinks but that's it he was a good influence on them he played hard he had the street smarts they lacked he could spot straw he could spot trouble and tell people to get lost oh yeah they needed that and uh they should have kept him around a little more they should they needed him as like an older brother type of thing instead they got rid of him and then they were you know off the rails off the rails and gooden said quote davy's right they should have never traded him so we needed him to keep these ass yeah he kept him in check like yo motherfucker don't trust him that dude's a dirtbag and they'd be like oh all right cool they would listen to him they would listen to him but then when he was gone there's no influence saying that keith hernandez is going does he have
Starting point is 00:46:47 blow can we go to his house are we going there or is he coming here are we going there long island what are we doing hey projects here we come so he started drinking a lot harder uh after the season he comes back to tampa hometown returning news. Never, don't go home. No. So you've named your kid Junior. Yeah. You've went home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:08 One and two so far. And he breaks all the rules, boy. Later on, he's going to find Jesus. It's a mess. Oh, good Lord. It's a goddamn disaster. So he said. It's a doc-gam.
Starting point is 00:47:18 It's a doc-gam disaster. Doc-gam. No, doc-gam disaster. Doc-gam. That's so hard to say. It's doc-gam disaster. Doc Gam. No, Doc Gam disaster. Doc Gam. That's so hard to say. It's Doc Gam disaster. It really is a Doc Gam disaster. So, yeah, he said he would, you know, he said at that point he had smoked a little weed, drank a lot.
Starting point is 00:47:37 But now he's really into coke, though. He said he liked it. He loved doing it. He started doing it more often. He said, quote, my body started craving it more and more, and that's when it became a big issue for me. You know, like an addiction. You know, like an addict.
Starting point is 00:47:53 How that works. It's weird. I kept doing it, and then my body wanted it more and more. It was this weird thing. I would wake up, and I don't know how else to describe it, but it's like I craved it. A wanting for it. I just,ved it. A wanting for it? A need? It was telling me things.
Starting point is 00:48:09 It was really weird. I don't know how to describe it, but strange, right? Dare I call it a need? He said it was like it was some kind of mystical thing. My body started craving it like it was a woman. You know what I mean? I tried to let her go, but my body was craving her and i called her back and i needed her no this is a chemical addiction is what you have sir that's what that is that there's a name for that body dare i call it a
Starting point is 00:48:35 dependency no other word for it but you know a need just a real desire you could call it a monkey on upon my back like what the fuck ah that's hysterical jesus christ so he's dumb he doesn't dumb shit that's what it is too young didn't have any real world experience before this sheltered and right a guy like kevin mitchell one thing if you're raised tough like that at least you uh i mean a lot of people they they they have a harder time if they were raised badly but sometimes they have they kind of might may have grown up before their time right type of thing and they might be old there is there is something to say for growing up too too early because you at least have a wherewithal and you see the world in a way of you know where predators are. Yeah, you see a scumbag coke dealer that wants to take you to his house and make you miss a parade
Starting point is 00:49:28 to extract money from you for hours while you smoke crack. You know who that guy is, and you're like, yeah, he's going to make you miss the parade. I feel like he would have known that. Yo, Doc. Doc, look at your watch, man. You're never going to. Long Island? Traffic this time
Starting point is 00:49:45 of day think about that shit fucking get back into the city man come on now you can't be riding the subway you're gonna get swarmed the grand marshal god damn it get on the float doc jesus so december 13th 1986 10 50 p.m whenever we say a time it's never good. Doc Gooden and six people, six companions, friends of his, were on their way home in three different cars. Seven people, three cars, a little caravan. They were attending the Florida and South Florida basketball game at the South Florida Sun Dome in Tampa. Yay. Yuck. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Now, he, Doc, is driving his 1984 silver mercedes with doc license plate oh you asshole of course oh he is god damn it uh and uh yeah he's got a couple of friends with him and then gary sheffield yeah whose name you might recognize uh from being one of the greatest hitters of all time he's a guy, Gary Sheffield, quickly, that if it wasn't the whole steroid cloud and he had those numbers, he's a Hall of Famer, period. And I don't even care about the home run totals.
Starting point is 00:50:55 This guy's a power hitter that I think he only struck out 80 times twice as a power hitter. He was the most dangerous hitter in baseball. I always thought so, anyway. I won't say her name, but I know somebody that extorted him. Nice. That's perfect.
Starting point is 00:51:09 And I don't think that she got away with it. She did one of those I'm on the pill things. Oh, yeah. That's extortion. Yeah. That's something. Yeah. I don't know what it is, but I want to say there was a paternity test that came up.
Starting point is 00:51:24 No, this is all alleged. We don came up. No. This is all alleged. We don't know these things. This is all alleged. I don't know for sure. I gave no names other than Gary Sheffield. Which, alleged. We don't know. He might have been talking about Fred McGriff.
Starting point is 00:51:34 We have no idea. He's got them mixed up. At this point, we can't even really pin it on Gary Sheffield. So, allegedly. A baseball player got extorted for one of those anchor for shuffield anchor that's the wrong term not the right terminology jimmy at all i know what you mean other people anchor bit no to keep you not what you're like yeah that's it's a different i know what an anchor baby really is well that's what it really is that's that's the real yeah like that's
Starting point is 00:52:04 a better way that's a better anchor but you're never it's never going to is. That's the real, yeah, that's a better way. That's a better anchor baby. But it's never going to catch on is the problem. It's been... It's been tainted. It's like it's got paint thrown on it from like a... It's been a victim of a PETA protest where you just toss paint on it and now it's covered. That's how it works.
Starting point is 00:52:23 A bright red anchor baby. Yeah, so... Jesus Christ so uh sheffield though amazing hitter and i won't talk too much about him because i think he'll probably might have his own episode so i don't want to talk too much about him but uh quickly on him there's a one of his managers said that he's probably the scariest hitter to face ever. Gary Sheffield, to describe him to you, he's a big, strong guy, number one. He holds his bat in a way where it's up, and he's wagging it back and forth,
Starting point is 00:52:53 kind of bopping it back and forth, using nothing but his wrists, which is insane, because he uses a big bat, too. It's really, really insane. And he can get around on an inside pitch like nobody in history has a right-hander uh to the to you can't throw him inside normally a right-hander you can jam him up with a inside fastball he can't get around on that lefties will crush that righties can't get around sheffield
Starting point is 00:53:14 will pull it i mean he will he'll he's got to watch out not to pull it foul which is like insane his manager said that he's the scariest guy he He said, quote, he could turn on a.38 caliber bullet. So that's the type of guy. Yeah. Rod, Rod Beck, my friend, he was on a team with Roberto Hernandez. Gary Sheffield was coming up, and Roberto Hernandez was about to go into the game. If you don't know who he is, he's a reliever that threw 100, 101 miles an hour. Legit, Roberto Hernandez.
Starting point is 00:53:42 He's a fireballer. So Rod was just talking to him about what he's going to do he's a chef's coming up and blah blah blah and he goes yeah just you know stay away from inside and roberto hernandez is like fuck that i'll bust him inside and he's like no you won't he'll fucking turn on that shit he's like i throw 100 miles an hour he ain't turning on shit and he's like all right we'll fucking try it then so he goes second pitch he's like he only hit it about 430 feet so i mean you know you. He didn't turn on it too hard. He didn't get it too bad, but he said he didn't say a word when he came back.
Starting point is 00:54:09 He was just like, man, that's a good pitch on Sheff there. Nice work. Good job, Dickhead. You can't get anything. What I'm saying is no matter how hard you throw, he'd get it. Did Sheffield end up retiring very comfortably, or was he ruined? No, he was good, man. He did fine.
Starting point is 00:54:23 He played for the Yankees for a long time, and he ended up really extending his career a long time and doing a really good job. Padres for a long time? Yeah, yeah. Great fucking arm on him from the outfield, too. Yeah, he did. He was a former shortstop third baseman
Starting point is 00:54:38 that switched to right field. I mean, he had a cannon for an arm, too, which was great. And he played for the Padres after the jersey change. Yeah, yeah. After that Brown. Yeah, they got rid of that an arm, too, which was great. And he played for the Padres after the jersey change. Yeah, yeah. After that Brown. Yeah, they got rid of that. Which Ray Kroc owned the team. Of course, it's going to be McDonald's.
Starting point is 00:54:50 It's still cool. It's just filthy. It's very 70s. It's filthy. It looks like a 70s McDonald's interior. So Sheffield is driving a red Corvette. He's just been drafted. He's a high school standout who's just been drafted.
Starting point is 00:55:04 So he took a signing bonus and bought a corvette as kids do when they're 18 years old he's driving a corvette who's uh with a male passenger in the passenger seat here there's a third car here driven by another guy uh who had another run with him so doc's got three people in his car two and two equals seven so uh now this is kind of a piecing together of uh accounts of many different people police reports docs version everything kind of kind of whatever into a probably would happen type of scenario take a little from their side a little from doc's side sprinkle it together that's what they yeah probably the truth kind of the report because this the fbi gets this this
Starting point is 00:55:41 gets deep naacp gets involved in this if there's a group that has letters, they're looking into a late night traffic stop between Doc Gooden. So I guess Sheffield's driving ahead. Gooden's in the second position. The other car's in the back. He makes a left turn, the back car. They all turn in single file. Apparently, there was a police officer who spots a little caravan here i don't know
Starting point is 00:56:06 why that's a bad thing but he gets uh behind the three cars and pulls them and turns the dome light on drives up alongside doc gooden and signals for doc to pull over he also tries to get gary sheffield to stop in the front car but uh this guy but but Sheffield takes off. Well, yeah. Because, you know, whatever. So the cop radios for assistance and pulls on to the next to Gooden's car on the side of the road. Now, he said that basically the cop said
Starting point is 00:56:35 that he ordered the cars to pull over because they were weaving in and out of traffic and changing lanes, quote, while relating to each other. They were fucking around. It's a bunch of 18 to 22 year old kids that have Mercedes and quote raw relating while relating to each other they were fucking around yeah it's a bunch of it's 18 to 22 year old kids that have mercedes and corvettes right who are driving through town feeling they're feeling themselves world series champs i mean man they're feeling they're driving
Starting point is 00:56:55 weaving in between lanes can't drive like that it's stupid obviously but kids do that shit especially if they're really rich and happy and A star. And happy. That's the thing. They're probably just like, yay, as they're doing it. My life is so good. Left lane. No directional. Just fucking yay. So, yeah, they called it a reckless joint maneuver, saying they were dicking around together. And Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:57:21 So the back car had not been able to, has not been ordered to stop, but he pulled over anyway, also to stay with the group here. And then Sheffield returns back and stops. So he legitimately didn't know what was going on. And then he came back and was like, oh shit, I guess I gotta go back there. So after Dwight pulls over,
Starting point is 00:57:38 Dwight gets out of the car and the cop says that Dwight begins using profane language and accusing him of harassment and saying he's not going to hand over his license. Now, the police officer says that Doc wouldn't calm down, quote, even when his friends advised him to. He was like, no, fuck that shit. There's no reason to bother me. That's what the cop says. So he said the police officer says that fighting began with Doc when basically the police officer walked away.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Doc followed him. And he says that Doc was, quote, raising his hands in a menacing gesture, which is what we've heard that a few times. So he said the officer says that he turned, put up his own hand to, quote, ward off Mr. Gooden. And he said the pitcher then pushed off the pushed the officer's hand away, quote, using profanity to tell the officer not to touch him. Yeah. So that's the officer's off me.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Yeah. Fuck off me. Yeah. So now, according to according to Doc here, doc here is his lawyer he says doc get out of the car and asked the officer why he'd been stopped yeah so it's basically a matter of attitude is what they're both saying either way he got out and he was either said motherfucker why'd you pull me over he said officer why i don't understand the disturbance either way it's the same thing there's a confrontation yeah it's the same thing messing with me right okay i mean no offense i mean don't be a dick to cops but i mean they can they're not
Starting point is 00:59:09 gonna they're not also cops don't be dicks to people they're not delicate flowers whether it's why the fuck'd you pull me over sir why'd you pull me it's it's still the same thing i mean it's it's a question it's a legitimate question they're just their manners are shitty and you hold the burden of answering that's the thing this is all on you right because you it was your idea to pull over right none of us wanted to pull over right we were doing fine we were fine you turned lights on told us to pull over so here we are an attitude about it you get to apologize on you now at this point what you need yeah let's have a chat and i can or i can have the attitude or what i do wrong right let's say that so uh he says that he asked him why he'd been stopped.
Starting point is 00:59:45 And he says that the officer told him to shut up. And the attorney says that it was downhill from there. At that point, they said many officers came. Basically, they say it took six police officers to subdue Gooden and his companions. In the end, though, that's what the police say. In the end, though, it turns out there's 22 officers involved in this melee. So it turns out there's 22 people and it ends up being a giant basically ass kicking on them.
Starting point is 01:00:17 And so it's from whichever side you want to say. Doc and Sheffield and that side say the cops pulled us over, beat the shit out of us. want to say doc and sheffield and that side say the cops pulled us over beat the shit out of us and the cops say we pulled them over and they started a riot with 25 cops 22 cops and so yeah they heard us you know they were attacking us and we had to defend ourselves so that's it's a he said she said on this type of thing or he said they said they said they said you know a lot of that is there's a there's there are 30 people involved in there's a lot of yeah that's a lot of A's. That's what it is. There are 30 people involved in this. There's a lot of, yeah, that's a lot of A's getting involved of every stripe and manner and everything and who the hell knows. So, yeah, that's what the police say. Now, there's a woman there who says that she and two of her companions saw the end of the fight and said that the police had beaten Doc with nightsticks and flashlights before handcuffing his cop hands behind his back
Starting point is 01:01:05 and putting him in shackles, which is probably unnecessary for a Cy Young Award winner who's not physically attacking anybody. And if you're hitting his arms, too, that's fucked up. That's the other thing we're going to get into here. Now, Gooden's attorney says there's witnesses, other witnesses also, that accuse the police of using excessive force and then piling on charges to cover their excesses, which is what they accuse cops of all the time in meetings. So, yeah, he notes that there was five of the seven men were arrested of Doc's party there. So they're saying that all of the six that jumped on Doc, they're making it's also a racial issue in Tampa.
Starting point is 01:01:46 of the six that jumped on doc they're making it's also a racial issue in tampa tampa now i don't know about it but back in the 70s and 60s 70s 80s it was a hotbed of racial issues tampa it was tampa's a 25 back then black population they had nine percent of the police force was black so there was a big thing that's weird the black population was very untrustworthy of the police force and for good reason because for years it was a very it was a real uh shady shit that went on down there it's the fucking tampa's the south and now it's a little different but back in that back then it was the south that's it trick daddy yes well this is before you know i don't even know what the fuck before they before they had a hockey team and turned it into like you know hey we're gonna make this a city that old people retire to this fun it was the south back then and it was fucking weird it was a port town too yeah it's like it was a grunt it's the grimy pirates and whores that's what we said about tampa yeah pirates and whores and
Starting point is 01:02:38 roosters that's all it is it's a fucking mess it's a it's a pirate ship on the beach that's what it is so you have six white cops five black five black uh you know people that whatever they pulled over uh so it's you know it's a different thing there's people on both sides here and uh the attorney for doc says that quote there was reason to believe that racism was involved saying it was kind of a what the tampa police did at that point in time this is you know a long time ago police spokesman said that they don't respond to such accusations uh they just said uh they don't say whether the cops specifically use nightsticks and flashlights they will only say they used quote whatever force was necessary to restrain a resisting defendant that's all they would say they use they wouldn't say what they did uh gooden was subjected to not anybody else
Starting point is 01:03:31 but gooden was at the hospital was subjected to an alcohol blood test even though they didn't think he was under the influence of the scene that wasn't the issue but they still did that now uh yeah so they're going to go over the whole thing. He Gooden is going to be charged with all sorts of shit, resisting and battery on police officers and everything like that. Now, the Mets spokesman says, quote, Dwight was pretty well beaten up after this whole thing. He has bruises on his head, a bloodshot eye and cuts on his arm. So he's he got his ass kicked pretty good here. eye and cuts on his arm so he's he got his ass kicked pretty good here uh one of the cops involved in it was heard by a witness to say quote break his arm while they were doing all this so that's how that's what we're talking about here with accusations anyway uh that's according that's
Starting point is 01:04:18 in the prosecutor file too that's one from one of the prosecutor's witnesses that they heard so that's not great for the for the cops there that to say let's specifically break aside young lord with his arm yeah probably not the best let's you know they know exactly who this is and exactly what what is worth what to him yeah that's what i mean so it's a you know whatever so the uh gooden ends up with this whole thing we'll talk about it later on he'll plead no contest to shit, but not after it gets super weird here. They also say that in the file that after the arm breaking threat, it says that the officers laughed at Gooden while he was lying and handcuffed and battered on the ground. That's in there. Also, he said that that doc told the cop, quote, I don't know what I did.
Starting point is 01:05:01 They never told me what they stopped me for. I never even got to that point. That shit's illegal. Basically illegal basically before they got to that point it just went to beaten time yeah so uh they said that he's at his parents house resting and they said he's going to have charges of battery on a police officer violently resisting arrest which are third degree felonies carry maximum penalties of five years in prison and a bunch of fines he's also charged with disorderly conduct and uh careless driving and so there's that which has a can carry a 30 fine yeah so five years in prison or a 30 fine or or so that's the 13th of december now the 16th of december the tampa naacp yeah
Starting point is 01:05:39 gets involved seeking a predator a federal probe of the Tampa Police Department over the whole Doc Gooden thing. They say that their quote is that, quote, we sent a telegram to Edwin Meese requesting the Justice Department investigate the possible violation of Dwight Gooden's civil rights. Here, they said it relates to Dwight and the four other young men who were involved, and we're going to ask the Justice Department to look into other cases, four in all, which may or may not point to a pattern of this so they're asking for that so that's coming out this we get into a war of the press yeah this comes out we want a federal probe
Starting point is 01:06:15 so the next day somehow the police get the hospital somehow uh they get the goodens blood tests revealed publicly which is not okay it wasn't all right so what about hippa hospital this is the thing this is the he'll end up suing for this later as we'll talk about but uh they give him a blood they talk about they reveal that the blood test he had a blood alcohol level of 0.111 which at the time 0.10 was the limit in florida which is that's like, that's a morning baseline in Florida. Really? I mean,
Starting point is 01:06:48 if we think about it, that's, that's breakfast mimosas. People get to that before they leave the house. I feel like down there, just, just to cope with the roosters, if nothing else,
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Starting point is 01:10:56 with any offense connected to drinking. They didn't charge him with a drunken driving or anything like that. So it's very, very odd here. The blood test, the result was seen by a new york times reporter at the end of an internal police memorandum that's how this got released so the police leaked it basically to the time they did it on purpose right saying they did it on accident 100 for sure threw in by the way he was drunk it was at the end of a report that they let a reporter look at so yeah it's they knew what they were doing because then the day before it's all this public
Starting point is 01:11:29 you know that they're racist they're beating the shit out of people and then they go up well he's a drunk that's what it was so it's it's definitely a pr war here is what it is here uh yeah they said that uh uh the the they shouldn't they wouldn't confirm the release of the results to the Times because that would be a breach of confidence. Basically, they shouldn't have been accessible to... There wasn't a blood test taken by the police. It was a blood test taken by the hospital to look over his medical injuries. That's what it was. It wasn't a blood test for the cops.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Cops can't leak that. So they're saying that's not even your blood test. That's his private medical information that you can't release without some sort of court order or something like that. So, yeah, it's a mess. same article the police also say that they've now learned that gooden was a member of a group that had been quote asked to calm down at a restaurant about an hour before that so that's worthy of beating the shit out of them so they're saying hey they were out there getting all fucking rowdy all over the you know calm down 18 to 21 year old kids with a bunch of money that are happy with their lives i mean you know we told them to calm down an hour ago so you know beat the shit out of them in the street and ruin their careers.
Starting point is 01:12:45 This is and it was a Chili's. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. He said it was a goddamn Chili's Chili's in Tampa. Yeah. And they asked the guy, the Chili's manager, a Chris Sullivan, who was a Chili's managed a Chili's in Tampa in 1986. He said, quote, Dwight Gooden wasn't in any trouble or causing any trouble he says people in his party were just having fun a couple of people in the party were asked to calm down uh but there
Starting point is 01:13:11 was not any gross intoxication they were just having a good time a couple too many they're young you know how it gets over there if you can't get wild the chilies where can you get wild i mean jesus christ when those nachos start flying those big bite burgers start having fajitas i can't fucking control myself, bro. When I get a potato skin in front of me, for the love of Christ. Their fajitas are bullshit, too. There's three pieces of meat and it's all peppers and onions. It's not a fucking fajita.
Starting point is 01:13:37 It's like an 80s airplane fajita. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We made you a fajita. Stop pronouncing the J, Cameron. We made them for you. It's real nice here up on pan am pan am in the friendly sky here on twa so uh couldn't answer like my bonnet do you like it good and answers quote i wasn't drunk i really can't say anything else so uh the paper also reports they found the restaurant records this is how deep they got into this they found his receipt they found his receipts in the restaurant that's
Starting point is 01:14:10 to show that gooden purchased two rounds of seven drinks for all seven people at uh at one uh for at 25 minutes apart okay they had a drink half hour later they had another drink right not real bomb drinks in an hour that's at one of their that ain't shit no not for you know he's 200 pound guy so uh his agent said that uh obviously gooden had a couple of beers that's what he alleges to have had he says yeah he says he had a couple beers that's not the fucking point so uh sheffield is also arrested he is a recent first round draft choice of the brewers at this point and then a couple of former high school teammates of Gooden that were there so uh February 20th 1987 uh more comes out here in this report here uh the report comes out the report showed no evidence of any of any planned
Starting point is 01:14:58 or intentional brutality this is an internal report obviously oh by the police by the police Gooden ends up pleading no contest to third degree felony charges of battery on a police officer and resisting arrest with violence and uh he is sentenced to three years probation and 160 hours of community service uh there the report does say gooden quote uh was quote undoubtedly struck several times by various officers with fists, knees, flashlights and nightsticks. God, which seems excessive unless he's really trying to throw down. Now, eventually, he ends up pleading no contest.
Starting point is 01:15:33 You know, I mean, this is all fucking crazy. And the ACP, the FBI did a probe. This is this is this. It's crazy, but not nearly as crazy as the sales, Jimmy. Oh, the sales! If you happen to be in the Tampa area in 1986, do we have some sales for you? Holy shit! Jimmy, you're going to want to head on down to your local Tampa Dodge dealership as quickly
Starting point is 01:15:56 as possible. Brand new, 1986 Dodge Dakotas, $6,434. Allow two weeks for delivery. Now we have a Ram, Dodge Ram, half ton, $7,987. Or a little Dodge pickup, the little tiny fucker there, $5,979. Five grand for a pickup truck. For a whole car. A pickup truck.
Starting point is 01:16:23 Pickup truck, engine and everything pickup trucks are 50 grand oh god six grand back then between five and seven take your pick go on down there also head down to the liquor store here french west liquor where 24 pack of bush cans are only 8.49 they haven't changed a bit 24 price today fuck yeah 24 pack of natural light cans only 6.99 same you can get shit face a bottle of bacardi rum for 5.99 holy shit and finally head on down to bayless electronics where you can get an rca pro wonder pro wonder camcorder yeah for only 999 dollars uses standard vhs cassettes in this bitch you had to buy cassettes for that thing a straight vhs tape it was a vcr with a lens that you put on your shoulder today you can buy a camcorder
Starting point is 01:17:19 for 300 bucks no tape oh it's amazing you could you could film fucking game of thrones on it and it would people would think it was perfect like 300 bucks 9.99 and this looks like complete dog shit yeah this is the video of like early america's funniest home videos everyone got hitting the nuts on this camcorder that's this was the fucking thing on your shoulder this is the nut popper camcorder right there. Yeah, big battery pack. If you don't put your hand through that little pad, if that falls, it will fucking kill your children. Oh, God. It will.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Hold on to it, Dad. Take out the family. So in case of that, go there. Now, the FBI opens a probe into the circumstances surrounding this arrest right after this. The spokeswoman for them says it's a preliminary investigation. She says the Tampa FBI office has begun the investigation on their own, not at the direction of the Justice Department. Their findings, however, will be reviewed by Washington.
Starting point is 01:18:18 So now the FBI is involved in whether the police department investigated this or they just put a fucking rubber stamp on it. So, I mean, this is getting fucking deep for a traffic stop. It's now gone literally NAACP. The FBI is going to Washington's asking what's going on. It's fucking crazy. It's not as crazy, though, as 79 cents for a quart of Valvoline oil. It's not as crazy, though, as 79 cents for a quart of Valvoline oil down at the auto parts store or 269 for Fram oil filters. Oh, also.
Starting point is 01:18:51 How about that? Guys, get your shit together. Get back to Tampa. Inflation has really changed those prices, too. I would say. You can't do that shit on your own at home for less than probably 30 bucks. Oh, back then with 79. So you get five quarts of that times 80 cents. That's nothing there.
Starting point is 01:19:07 So basically, seven bucks with tax out the door. You could change your oil back then. Not anymore. So 1987 comes around. It's been an eventful off-season for Doc, to say the least here. 87 comes around, spring training. You should just recede into baseball now
Starting point is 01:19:24 and just forget about it all. Only he tests positive for cocaine in spring training. So, not quite. In spring training. Down in Tampa. Probably his first test of the season. How about that, too? Going down to Florida for spring training.
Starting point is 01:19:38 That's horrible. It's home. He's just always home. It's not a good place to be. Tampa is known as the sixth borough anyway. So if you're a New York star, you're bad. It's Tampa. It's all it's all all your friends are there. It's like an extended.
Starting point is 01:19:53 It's so weird. It's like a gerrymandered neighborhood. Like there's a guy from Long Island showing up in the clubhouse. Yeah, there's New York and like a thin line down to Tampa, but they're in the same like voting district. It's really weird here. So he goes to rehab in April. So that's how you want to start your season, in rehab. So the 87 Mets go 92-70.
Starting point is 01:20:12 They are second in the NL East. They do not make the playoffs. Doc goes 15-7, 321 ERA. It's the highest of his career, but still pretty goddamn respectable. 179 innings and 148 strikeouts. Only pitches 25 games because of his rehab stint. He is fifth in Cy Young voting still, though. Really?
Starting point is 01:20:29 So, I mean, he's pretty dominant. Makes $1.5 million this year, which is not bad. Now, after the season, he is in a paternity action suit with his ex here over Dwight Jr. He's an infant. with his ex here over Dwight Jr. He's an infant. Monica Harris is her name, the mother of his child. She makes $325 an hour as a clerk for Kelly Services,
Starting point is 01:21:00 and he makes $1.32 million for the Mets. So it's a definite different thing, and he agrees to pay her 125 a week so 600 a month what a deal wow he makes jesus christ how did he manage that i mean maybe to her that sounded like a lot yeah i don't know how broke is that's 325 an hour she makes that was minimum wage yeah but i mean how broke is she you know what i mean like how mean like 25 an hour and and how much six at four 600 bucks a month i mean that's more than she made probably i guess so i fuck that's brutal though man that's he just gave her a new income yeah uh i would say so so he uh he ends up the weird thing is they fight for that and then in in november of, they get married. What?
Starting point is 01:21:45 What's he doing? I don't know. He's like, it's cheaper to marry her. I don't know what his plan is. You dummy. I don't know. She's all right. He marries her.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Then four days later, he files to obtain custody of his son. Oh, that's what it is. So he married her to get custody, I guess. He agreed to pay her $600 a month, and he married her to try to fucking. Now he's going to get alimony, too. Now you're screwing yourself worse. You could have just got over. So I don't know what he's doing. So he ends up, she ends up firing back here, has some court papers describing that he has, quote, problems with alcohol and drug abuse.
Starting point is 01:22:18 So now it's like kind of public there. You idiot. They talk about his arrest. So she ends up retainingaining uh retaining custody of of gooden jr and a year later doc in 88 agrees to increase support to a thousand dollars a month you're a fucking prince doc what a sweetheart you're a real sweetheart so uh october 2nd 1987 the tampa police are suing dwight gooden why uh because he said they were racist and uh he quote injured them and these cops are suing as individuals not the police department the cops themselves from the arrest
Starting point is 01:22:50 three tampa police officers are suing him uh they're suing it's a personal injury lawsuit they're claiming assault battery negligence and defamation of character their lawyer says quote they were injured both physically and emotionally if imagine if cops sued every guy every person who emotionally injured them you would sue how many homeless people 40 stop last night yeah that spit on you 45 people per shift who would fucking you'd be saying that you would never stop your lawyers would be like we can't handle the paperwork you You only sue the millionaires. You better not be a fucking police officer if you're that fragile. Yeah, that's...
Starting point is 01:23:31 Figure it the fuck out. You're dealing with some of the most difficult people to deal with on the planet. Now, you should never assault a police officer. Never. That's one thing. Never. Fucking, that's not okay, and that's not okay, first of all. fucking that's not that's not okay and that's not that's not okay first of all second of all that that's part of your job though is that sometimes people do assault you you can't sue
Starting point is 01:23:52 them right you're not you're you're going out and looking for it so by the nature of it you can't really it's kind of a you're kind of kicking the bee's nest fellas yeah because yeah i never have incidents with drunk people that i have to pull out of the car i don't have to interact with them i get that's your job and you do it and no one should fuck with you for it yes that's an absolute fact but you gotta understand that that's the people that uh it's gonna happen sometimes it's gonna happen yeah yeah so part of this job you should probably sue for that they said the press accounts were pretty much one-sided in favor of dwight gooden and they took that very hard.
Starting point is 01:24:26 The police did. They received a lot of pressure from it on their jobs, from their family and friends. And, uh, his law, his docs lawyer said, quote,
Starting point is 01:24:33 he's definitely got nothing to say. I've got nothing to say. The lawyers have got nothing to say. And that was that. So, uh, yeah, uh,
Starting point is 01:24:40 the, they said that the docs layer also says that they would welcome an opportunity to find out what really happened here in open court so hey you want to bring it to court and talk about it they're saying great uh so the uh the police chief said that quote an individual police officer has a right to file a lawsuit so i mean that's their right legally but i mean uh you know logically not so uh what do you do when things go slightly awry? That's when you get married to Monica Harris,
Starting point is 01:25:07 that we're talking about here. November 21st, 87, he gets married. Rule three, broken. Don't get married when things are going bad. In front of 600 guests at a Baptist church. Jesus. That shit was real. He wasn't, you know, that wasn't no play acting.
Starting point is 01:25:21 He was for real today. 600 people showed up. 600 people. My God. That's where he grew up. It's in Tampa. Now, December 9th, 1987, police advisory group resumes meeting. This is a citizen's advisory committee formed to review police incidents kind of spurred on by the Doc Gooden incident to have some citizen overview on the police department and that sort of shit. So they fire that up
Starting point is 01:25:48 citing Doc Gooden. Now, 1988, May 23rd, 1988, Doc is suing the cops from the incident individually as well. So now they're going to sue each other. Oh, by the way, he's also going to sue the hospital for letting his blood test results leak out as well.
Starting point is 01:26:03 And he's going to win that one. That one he's going to win, too. Yeah, that one's a slam dunk. That's an open and shut. They settle on that. They don't even go to court on that. They're like, let's just give him money. We definitely fucked up. Especially what he does with it's pretty nice, actually.
Starting point is 01:26:14 1988, the Mets go 160. So not bad. First place. This is the year they lose to the Dodgers. This was that Kurt Gibson home run. You weren't beating the Dodgers that year. They had magic up their ass yeah it was one of those things so uh they lose seven seven games in the nlcs though i mean a fucking heartbreaker doc goes 18 and nine bit of a comeback season here with the wins uh 3.19 era 34 games 248.1 innings which is a horse nowadays 175 strikeouts so strikeouts down a little bit
Starting point is 01:26:48 but walks only 57 not a little bit on his mind he's got a little on his mind he's an all-star this year still though he's kind of back doing what he's what he's doing august 1988 now sheffield at this point is now this is in 88 he comes up to to the majors. So he was a quick bring up, too. He goes to the brewers, and he says that when he showed up at the brewers, he assumed, the brewers assumed that he was using drugs, basically, because he's from Tampa and hung out with Doc Gooden. So they're like, he's his nephew. They're like, oh, you use drugs, too.
Starting point is 01:27:24 He said, I wanted to make it clear that I never i don't never do drugs i don't care what the pressure's like uh but he says that uh you know they treated him well up there they told him quote they just told me to lay low and do a lot of things behind closed doors if i want to have a drink or two have them in the house make sure i leave early enough to get where i want to go instead of speeding or something they just wanted me to stay out of the papers and keep the publicity down they're like dude dude, this is Milwaukee. It's easy to get in the paper here. Basically, if you make a real good cheese,
Starting point is 01:27:51 that's all week. You're the talk of the town. That's all we're going to talk about in the paper. If you're a pro athlete that gets in any trouble, it's going to be really huge news. Bart Starr farted on a bus one time. They're still talking about it. Understand?
Starting point is 01:28:04 That's how this works. You're one of 30 black guys in this entire state. That's all we have. You stand out. Well, the University of Wisconsin, they have a few. But outside of Madison, it's just... You stand out. Don't fuck up here.
Starting point is 01:28:16 That's it. It's you and... What year is this? You and Reggie White. No, not yet. Not yet. Not until 95. Getting close.
Starting point is 01:28:21 He's still in Philly. But you and Tim Harris. There you go. I don't even know him. That was a defensive tackle. But you and Tim Harris. There you go. I don't even know him. Defensive tackle for the Packers. Okay. There you go. So anyway, they told him, look, there's a lot of eyes on you.
Starting point is 01:28:32 You're Doc Gooden's nephew, whatever. So Sheffield ends up moving in with Gooden in St. Petersburg. Really? Yeah, his house. For spring training. Gooden moves from Tampa to St. Petersburg. That's his way of getting out of Petersburg. Really? Yeah, his house. Oh, for spring training. Good moves from Tampa to St. Petersburg. That's his way of getting out of it. Really?
Starting point is 01:28:48 They go, listen, Doc, you should really move out of your hometown. From Tampa to St. Pete? I'll move to St. Pete, which is the same thing. Like 25 minutes north. It's not far at all, yeah. Clearwater Falls, sir?
Starting point is 01:28:58 Yeah. What are you doing? Jackass. It's still in Pinellas County, I think. It's Tampa, St. Pete. It's like Dallas-Fort Worth. It's part of the area. doing jackass so uh still in pinellas county it's the same it's tampa st pete like dallas fort worth it's part of the area fucking asinine so gooden buys a house for himself and his wife and his son and his parents to live in and he buys the house next door for gary sheffield and his parents to live in so that's how it works here uh this is to to basically they say this is to put some distance between them and Tampa, which is insane.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Now, I moved out to Peoria, James, to put some distance between me and Scott. It's tough. Literally 11 minutes. So stupid. So he made one point four million dollars this year. He actually lost an arbitration. He was looking for one point six five million in arbitration, and they gave him $1.4 in arbitration. So November 1988, he's on probation from the incident with the police officers.
Starting point is 01:29:57 He's trying to get his probation reduced. Now, the judge says, quote, I know you've moved to St. Pete, but I hope you won't abandon this community about Tampa. We have a great number of children here that need a role model like you. Not my problem. No. Also. No. Not that guy.
Starting point is 01:30:14 No. You picked the wrong one. Jesus Christ. Are you kidding me? He says, quote, I tried to do all that was asked of me while on probation. His attorneys say that, you know, he's done they said he's his lawyer said he's been an exemplary probationer he's done almost double the community service hours uh he's donated more than thirty thousand dollars to charity in hillsborough and pinellas
Starting point is 01:30:35 counties and around the country uh he said he'd donate one thousand dollars to all children's hospital for each game he won this year and so far he's won 18 oh so 18 g so they're saying he's going to do all this shit uh the state attorney said that they won't take a position either way they're saying they'll let it be between the judge and the lawyer and that's fine so they're not going to say hey you know interfere in the whole thing he said uh i'm of the opinion that this is a matter of between mr goodman and the court so uh they uh end up that they're going to do that they're going to uh uh they're gonna end up reducing his probation he says i just gotta keep continue i just gotta continue to work
Starting point is 01:31:11 uh with kids and try to help them out the right way that's all he's mr kids now it's all about the kids jimmy it's terrible jimmy he's good now no he's good jim he's fine he's good now all right it's we haven't heard of him since 89 he's fine 1989 april 15th doc sues the hospital yeah for releasing the his blood test records publicly he wins the case but in the case he agrees to donate back the money that he won to the hospital to care for emotionally disturbed children that's cool so that was cool he doesn't take the money that they wait it was like seventeen thousand dollars or so it wasn't anything big or whatever but he uh prescriptions for a week yeah he he donates it back to the hospital so he doesn't look like a dick for suing the hospital but he should have sued the hospital he could be releasing people's blood tests publicly
Starting point is 01:31:56 so that year 89 for the mets he goes nine and four with a ERA. 118 innings pitched. 101 strikeouts. So not wonderful. He has an arm injury, a shoulder muscle tear or something late in the season. Only pitches in 19 games. So that's how that works. But he does make $2,416,667 this year. That's not bad. So quite the haul.
Starting point is 01:32:22 1990, March 14th. Tampa, Florida, 3 a.m. Oh, boy. Roosters everywhere. Just the pirates, whores, and roosters are wandering the streets, okay? There is an incident at 3 a.m., never good. We always say this, and no matter how not at fault you are, if you're out, like, partying at 3 a.m., no matter what happens to you, you're, like, 50 at 3 a.m no matter what happens to you you're like 50 at fault
Starting point is 01:32:46 because yeah you know yeah that there's a lot of shit to get into even though signed this behavior no matter how innocent you are and you could be completely innocent this is uh up to up to but not including sexual assaults right at that point that's that's another level of whatever but if you i'm talking you get in any trouble you're fucking you know getting a fight with people or something your fault sorry shouldn't be out with these idiots uh but yeah we shouldn't be fucking each other against each other's wills i think that that's that's where we can draw the line of behavior of whatever so uh this is 3 a.m outside grace's place which is a nightclub in uh tampa here, Gary Sheffield is involved in this as well. He's hanging out with Doc.
Starting point is 01:33:29 He says that he was with a male friend when he was stopped by the police, or he was stopped by the police walking out of the club. He said, this is Sheffield's quote, I said, I'm Gary Sheffield. I'm a professional ball player. He said, they said, I don't care who you are. You're driving a dope dealer's car. And then they threw me up against the car.
Starting point is 01:33:48 So basically, they treated him like he was a drug dealer because he had a drug dealer car. Okay, so it's not that it was somebody else's car registered in their name and they're a known dope dealer. He has a black Mercedes. He has a fucking, you know, a hot car. And never mind that he makes millions of dollars a year because he's a star ball player by this point. He's a fucking all-star by 1990. So, you know, that sort of thing. They just go, no, you're black and you got a nice car up against it.
Starting point is 01:34:11 So that's how that works. They said that a bunch of witnesses said that the officers were trying. They thought the officers were trying to provoke Sheffield. And Tampa police, they said that they thought they were stopping a different man a man suspected of dealing six kilograms of cocaine uh but they say uh they they wouldn't go any farther into that they just said it was they thought that it was a different person now uh it doesn't bode well for that old uh racist part of the look-alike thing that's the thing uh this leads to within the next week um there is a the tampa night squad a night squad they called it that was a west tampa patrol that went around
Starting point is 01:34:53 looking for shit was abruptly disbanded basically they were like stop fucking with people you're fucking getting us in trouble here now gooden uh was there too he said he heard about the ruckus in the parking lot and uh he left the par the bar went 100 and 100 feet into the parking lot where he saw a cop holding a gun on gary sheffield so he said uh now the bartender here uh who witnessed the thing said that two cop cars came up they blocked sheffield's black mercedes as it was leaving the parking lot i knew it you knew it knew it they came out with their guns drawn on him uh they said it looked like they were going to fire on the car they got out like this is the guy we've been looking for yeah finally found him here he is he's like holy shit what's going on don't you guys write down license plate numbers
Starting point is 01:35:38 fuck man it says chef on the plate why jesus god damn it so gooden here he leaves and comes running over uh the bartender says gooden was visibly upset and an off-duty officer who worked at the bar doing security tried to calm him down he says quote the cops were screaming and yelling at gooden he was just standing there that's what they wanted him to do mouth off and then they could kick his ass that's what the bartender says uh yeah so sheffield and the guy in his car both filed complaints with the tampa police department internal affairs bureau uh sheffield says quote my complaint was i've been harassed too much and my life was in danger you know once guns are being drawn in that sort of situation it's like hey you didn't even ask me you even asked for my license first right like i have no idea what's happening
Starting point is 01:36:23 here we see it it says chef on the plate what are you looking at what do you got in there i know you're using an s but you probably can't spell this one says doc what's happening what do you got so uh yeah so no arrests are made in this whole thing but there's a lawsuit coming up here the uh jesus christ uh doc silver haired middle-aged white man here says quote unfortunately dwight had did have an episode before but there's not a tie-in at all here uh dwight was not a primary player in this at all like hey look even we know he's a fuck-up but this wasn't his fuck-up put it that way 1990 mets ago 91 and 71 finished second in the nl east don't make the playoffs doc though has a better year 19 and 7
Starting point is 01:37:05 almost has 20 wins again 34 games pitched 232 winnings 223 strikeouts only 70 walks doc's back fourth in the cy young voting 14th in mvp voting so he's now one of the top pitchers again shaking off the coat shakes off the the shoulder injury and all that makes 1 million 866 667 dollars doing great and right after the season has a daughter named ashley yeah so he's Takes off the shoulder injury and all that. Makes $1,866,667. He's doing great. And right after the season has a daughter named Ashley. Yeah. So he's already fucked up the name, so he can't have that.
Starting point is 01:37:32 1991, April 2nd, 1991. Doc signs a contract extension. Yeah. He wanted to be the top paid player in baseball. Yeah. But his deal is just a few bucks shy of Roger Clemens, who gets a big deal here. He gets a three-year extension worth guaranteed $15.45 million. For three years.
Starting point is 01:37:53 For three years, Doc does. Five a year. And that was number two in the majors back then. Wow. Think about that shit. That is shit today. Nothing. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:38:00 He said it was important to be number one, but when it's that close, it doesn't really matter. He said it also contains a total of $750,000 in performance bonuses that would, if he achieves all of them, it would make this deal higher than Clemens' deal. So he says it depends on how you look at it, whether it's the highest paid or not. Doc Gooden was maybe the highest paid baseball player in the majors at one point. In the majors, man. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. They asked his agent, is he the number one salary guy?
Starting point is 01:38:30 And he says, I'd say yes with an asterisk. In the end, I think it will be. Mets executive president said, quote, he will be the best paid player in the National League. In general, it's a unique contract for a unique player. If there's one player who is the heart and soul of our ball club, it's Doc Gooden. So they're making a commitment here. Heart and soul. Heart and soul.
Starting point is 01:38:52 He's a coke head. Does a lot of coke, but heart and soul. Wow. Now, at this point also, he has endorsements with Spalding, Nike, Toys R Us. Yeah. He does ads. He does fucking commercials for Kingsford Charcoal. What?
Starting point is 01:39:07 That's how ingrained Doc is in the American. Nike, Toys R Us, Spalding are very big, broad brands. Charcoal? You're trying to sell. I don't know, man. You got to get that 4th of July Labor Day and Memorial Day money. You know what? Who do I think is the best at grilling?
Starting point is 01:39:29 I'd say a 26-year-old millionaire is probably the best at grilling going out there i want to talk to doc's dad i bet he's great you know that's what i bet doc's dad can grill up some fucking shit it's that it's that he's not good at it and that's why he uses fucking charcoal yeah yeah that's true yeah and also armatron watches he's doing really yes i mean he's got sponsorships all over the place good for the arm i got yeah yeah armatron well play on words and he has a deal with the home shopping network what that's how basic this motherfucker is at this point he's turned into like he's like a pair of leggings yeah like that he's just omnipresent and accepted slang into everybody it's fine he's it's a baseball signing deal so they'll have a bunch of doc gooden balls on the home shopping network incredible
Starting point is 01:40:11 other players there the top few for this because it was interesting that he made the most money here uh gooden uh here let's see conseco is third yeah jose conseco's third third contract third highest at 4.7 million tony gwynn is fourth no kidding at 4 million 83 000 and daryl strawberry is fifth just over a hair over four million so about that's the top five uh making under five million dollars a year basically which is insanity two of them are gonna blow a majority of that on coke and tony gwynn is gonna live a nice clean life and drop dead anyway and all the other ones are still alive think about that that's amazing that list is steroids steroids cocaine crack cocaine prostitutes all that shit and tony gwynn he's the only dead one
Starting point is 01:40:56 in that fucking group the only dead one jose canseco looks 33 he does he looks 33 great with all of his fucking drugs starting wrestling now now. Gooden's still alive. He's starting a new athletic career in his 50s. Clemens does just fine for himself. Strawberry's still alive. And he had cancer, too. He did. He's still alive.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Coke, crack, whores, cancer. Nothing can fucking stop this man. Tony Gwynn, little chubby, drops dead. That goes to tell you that McDonald's is worse for you than cocaine, I feel like. It has to be. Whatever Tony Gwynn was eating, I don't fucking know. He wasn't eating healthy. He wasn't eating healthy, obviously.
Starting point is 01:41:33 If he was, he was just eating a shitload of it. Yeah, you could see when he came up, Tony Gwynn was thin. Yeah. And then he got pretty pudgy soon. Yeah, that was not kale. No. So, 91, the Mets themselves are 77 and 84 84 so it's starting to go off the rails here for the mets they go really into the shitter in the early 90s here docs 13 and 7 360 era not an all
Starting point is 01:41:55 star or anything like that and uh he's only has 27 games because in september 91 his shoulder's been bothering him the whole year he can't figure out why they figure out why it's because he needs rotate rotator cuff surgery that's not good for a pitcher terrible for a pitcher especially back then especially for a power pitcher oh god yeah not good uh he'll he's never the same electric doc before this his shit was electric it really was but after this never the same again he has to get by on guile and knowing how to paint corners and shit like that he turns into a completely different picture he does make two million four hundred thousand six hundred four hundred sixty six thousand six hundred sixty seven dollars that year now doc at this point he starts reflecting on his past and he says uh let's see let's do it in their own words what do you say
Starting point is 01:42:39 let's have an in their own words on doc let him tell us about his past in their own words on Doc. Let him tell us about his past in their own words. Quote, I became the person I really wasn't. People said I was just this nice, quiet, shy kid. Sometimes I wanted to yell shit or fuck or just blow somebody out. But I'd always stop myself and say, I'm not supposed to be like this. Jay Horowitz, the team's public relations director, asked me to do an interview. And even if I didn't want to do it i'd say okay i'll do it so that's his his thing he says that it's because he was so put upon yeah that's the problem he was just so put upon that he couldn't stop all right now davy johnson his
Starting point is 01:43:18 manager says the problem with dwight is he just couldn't say no he was too nice eventually he knew people in tampa who could get you in trouble it was like he was the lucky one and it would be wrong for him to not be their friend like he wanted to prove that to him that he was to them that he wasn't acting like a big shot or turning his back on them that's why you can't go home right because when you go home you have all these people go oh you're too fucking big now and then you end up in with these fucking people who don't have the same goals as you in life they're not in the same then you're put upon yeah then you're put upon it's what i mean it's one thing if you have people that you're loyal to that you are still we're always friends with and everything you want to
Starting point is 01:43:52 take them with you great that's fine but when you go home and you find these fucking people that you knew the whole scumbag family in the 11th grade and now they're going to try to suck you dry that's why you don't go home you go far away or these people can't get their tentacles on you. Yeah. He says, quote, Doc says, I'm not going to sit back and just take things anymore. I have to be me. I'm going to be a little more selfish. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:13 So March. This is from The New York Times. March 3rd, March 13th, 1992 from The New York Times. Three Mets are accused of sexual assault. Oh, this is not good. times uh three mets are accused of sexual assault uh-oh uh this is not good they're first not uh not uh identified uh but the uh the the saint petersburg times reports that dwight gooden said the pitcher was aware that a woman had made allegations about him so they know that he's involved his agent was quoted as saying that allegations may surface that they have been
Starting point is 01:44:42 denied by all parties involved all all the Mets players. So her story is the other two players involved in this are Daryl Boston, the outfielder, and Vince Coleman, who, you know, Vince Coleman. I got nothing. You know Vince Coleman? No. He used to steal like 100 bases a year for the Cardinals. Oh.
Starting point is 01:44:59 He got in trouble also for throwing a firecracker at a child when he was a member of the Mets. He got caught in the fucking tarp and got his leg all fucked up and was out like a whole year when he was fucking around during a rain delay. They rolled the tarp on him by accident because he was dicking off. Vince Coleman's a fucking idiot, and we will 100% have a Vince Coleman episode someday. And he's hanging out with him? He's hanging out with him. He was a big star, though.
Starting point is 01:45:22 He was an amazing bass dealer. He stole 100 basses a year in the mid-80s he was fucking incredible on those those uh really good mid-80s st louis cardinals teams he's dicking around and fucking up his legs the thing that makes him valuable goddamn team yeah he's a fucking moron so uh anyway yeah they all play for the mets at this point now they say this is a woman in her late 20s she's a resident of new york but uh she alleged that sexual battery occurred sometime in the end of March 1991, a year ago. This is from they say the allegations are made are that three individuals who are believed to be members of the New York Mets baseball team committed the assault. They call her a seasonal visitor to Port St. Lucie.
Starting point is 01:46:01 So a spring training group. Yeah. Lucy. So a spring training group. Yeah. If you've ever seen Bull Durham, Susan Sarandon describes this. I mean, I don't want to put that label on her. We have no idea. She could just be down there.
Starting point is 01:46:14 She could just be spring breaking down there. Yeah, who the hell knows? She's 31 years old here. Oh, she's not spring breaking. Not spring breaking here. This happened. And apparently her story is she came across doc gooden daryl boston vince coleman at a nightclub in jupiter florida on march 29th 1991 places at night oh
Starting point is 01:46:31 it's fucking awful uh so she said uh she gave gooden a ride to his house in port st lucie that he was renting for spring training and she said she was at that point pushed into a bedroom by doc and then raped by both doc gooden and daryl Boston and Vince Coleman, who were already in the house when she and Gooden arrived. God damn it. That's her story. She says that she told police that one of the players offered her an autographed picture of himself and some apparent compensation for this. Like, well, you could have an autographed picture. What? I don't know if that's you could have an autographed picture. What?
Starting point is 01:47:06 I don't know if that's... Who wants an autograph of their assailant? Yeah, oh, look at that. Jesus. Never forget, girl. Here. Vince, the best raper. Boom.
Starting point is 01:47:16 Exclamation point. Why would she want that? I don't think she would at all. This is... That's the most knockoff Jeter gift uh gift bag ever at least it was voluntary with jeter like hey jeter or was it a no jeter said thanks for the voluntary sex and he'd send him home in a limo ride with like a gift basket with like some autographs like some memorabilia and shit like jewelry and memorabilia like like they were she was leaving an award show right
Starting point is 01:47:41 it's like should i go to that thank you back should Should I go to the Emmys or fuck Derek Jeter? The gift bag is pretty, it's a, you know. It's very similar. It's even. So it's basically, I don't know which one's. I'll decide later. I don't feel like, because I mean, I don't really want to fuck Derek Jeter, but I also don't feel like getting dressed up.
Starting point is 01:47:57 Right. So you know what I mean? It's really a toss up. Yeah. It's not positive here. So this woman says she was raped repeatedly in the early morning hours she said she showered and made the bed before leaving the house uh now she said in new york she went back to new york she said four days passed before she realized what had happened
Starting point is 01:48:15 she said then she first contacted the port st lucie police uh she didn't leave her name or the identity of the players and then a year passes before she files a formal complaint of rape on march 3rd 92 it's allowed uh yeah that's what i mean it's there's no she can do it it's fine uh her lawyer said i can't explain that she did not realize she was a victim uh she said uh he said that it wasn't unusual that it was not unusual for sexual assault victims to have their realization of the assault uh kind of dawn on them over a few days that happens uh now the police department said that uh that they they pretty much just dodged questions about whether they were going to arrest arrest a uh you know that sort of thing uh police indicate that they gave her a computer voice stress test to help them determine whether she was being
Starting point is 01:49:01 truthful in her allegations which is interesting uh now they said the test which isn't a miss that is not admissible in court showed some deceptions and testimony to investigators uh they also said that neither her stress test nor polygraph test results that the players end up voluntarily entirely taking submitted to the police played a role in this reaching a decision so uh yeah she said there's an interesting twist to this in the files a 450 page file by the way uh they reveal that the police interviewed two dozen witnesses including mets pitchers ron darling and david cone yeah now david cone the woman and mr and david cone said told police that they had dated last spring so this is like david
Starting point is 01:49:44 cones during the time he was going out with she was going out with David Cohn. She said in a handwritten statement that she'd gone to the spring training complex to see David Cohn. And she said that during the game, Vince Coleman, Daryl Boston waved to her after the incident. So, yeah. So she said that David Cohn said that he learned about that he learned about it from ron darling that uh that she was coming forward saying she was raped and she david cone said he never spoke to his teammates about the allegations so i don't know now april 3rd 1992 they talk about she didn't have a comprehensive physical examination right after the attack
Starting point is 01:50:22 they didn't do a rape kit or anything like that so they don't have evidence such as like uh you know the smears and the swabs and all that but for the first time and not the last time in the 1990s there is a dress involved in this yeah uh dna tests of a blood sample taken from dwight gooden match a semen stain on the dress sample taken from dwight gooden match a semen stain on the dress of the woman that she says she was wearing the night of this attack uh now a year later she ain't washed that dress she pulled a major bluinski on this one apparently and uh hung on to it and that's the only source of the evidence here uh so they reported that uh it's a it's a forensic match. They said that, you know, it is what it is. So there's that. Now, April 10th, 92, a week later, they announced no charges will be filed against the players.
Starting point is 01:51:14 They found a state prosecutor said the case lacks corroborating evidence and comes down to the word of a victim against that of three individuals. So apparently, if you're going to rape somebody somebody make sure it's a gang rape right so you have more people telling your story i guess your side's loud the fuck is that well i mean there was three of them so there's weird um there was goddamn that's obviously sarcastic you know so uh there was semen and there's no charges so i jesus christ so the state attorney said that uh the case against the players was not strong enough to bring before a jury with likelihood of success. They're going by numbers here. He said he called the case vulnerable after an investigation. He says, quote, this is the after painstaking analysis and receiving input from the victim in the Port St.
Starting point is 01:51:58 Lucy Police Department, we've concluded that our duty in this case is to decline prosecution. that our duty in this case is to decline prosecution. He said the decision was not easy, but it would have been hard to prove that any sexual relations the woman may have had with the players was not consensual. Their story is it was consensual. They didn't say we don't know what you're talking about. We never met
Starting point is 01:52:15 this woman. They're saying, fuck yeah, she wanted to fuck him. That's their thing. So they ended up saying, now the players are pissed off. They said, Gooden says, quote, We've all been hurt, especially me. I'm happy it's over, but I was confident throughout. That's what he says. Isn't he married?
Starting point is 01:52:32 Oh, yeah. We'll talk about that. His wife was fucking furious. Oh, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Her lawyer said that said it was deeply disappointing and said that I understand that understood the state had a difficult task in actually prosecuting.
Starting point is 01:52:48 He also says, on the other hand, my client is comfortable in the knowledge that she told the authorities the absolute truth. She said that she would discuss what other relief is available to her. In other words, a civil suit here. So they reviewed this 450 pages of documents and they decided that these they the prosecutor said that there were quote the fact that she did not report this right away the fact
Starting point is 01:53:12 that there was no corroboration the fact that these people who were at least acquainted with each other she said means that it was very hard to prosecute the jury would have been very likely to say that it was consensual uh so uh they also uh they said the only piece of physical evidence was the dress they said it wasn't ripped or torn or anything like that and there was no other physical evidence linking vince coleman or daryl boston to her now gooden's story is i have this is right from his book doc a memoir so uh this is right from his book he addresses rape allegations oh yeah he says tells the story right out of the book i'll give a direct quote quote here's what happened on march 30th
Starting point is 01:53:50 i've been out for drinks with outfielders vince coleman and daryl boston at a nightclub in jupiter called jocks it wasn't far from our spring training facility in port st lucie the whole area was fairly sleepy back then every spring the the Mets were about the only attraction in town. At night, we'd go out drinking and looking for women, and women would go out drinking and looking for Mets. The hookups were never hard to come by. This particular night, I met a 31-year-old woman, and we started
Starting point is 01:54:15 talking upstairs. It was getting late. Vince and Daryl decided to go back to the house I was renting and crashed. She wasn't lying about that. They were already there when they walked in. That was the part that I thought was a lie out of her whole story when i first read it i was like i was like oh they were back at the house or how are they back at his house well that was the only part of the story where i was like i think she might be you know that's maybe she was drunk and sounds to me like all transposed it early and those two were still
Starting point is 01:54:41 looking for women and then they gave up once doc had a chick, and they were like, bring her back. That's the thing. But now that I know that that was true, now I'm like, ooh, this is getting creepy. He says it was getting late. They decided to go back and crash. The woman and I stayed at the club dancing and getting to know each other.
Starting point is 01:54:56 Then she drove us back to my place. When we got there, Vince and Daryl were on the couch in the living room playing RBI baseball on Nintendo, which is fucking awesome. I'm sorry. The only cool part of this story is Vince Coleman sitting on the couch using himself in RBI baseball from 1988. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:55:15 So he said, we walked past the two of them and into the bedroom where she and I had sex. When we came out, she hung around for more drinks. Vince asked jokingly, quote quote you ever been with three guys in a night so this is come on she said quote two never three oh boy was her line no she's trying to you know whatever be you know what make a joke you guys don't scare me exactly that kind of shit like you ain't nothing so vince then asked if she wanted to go into the bedroom with him and she said yes before the night was over all of us had had sex with her.
Starting point is 01:55:45 I was married. This was wrong, but it wasn't rape. The following day, players were comparing notes on their night out. Daryl Boston told Ron Darling what happened back at my house. When Daryl described the woman, Ron said, Oh, man, didn't you know she's going out with David? Oh, that's fucked up. That's the other thing.
Starting point is 01:56:00 She's David Cohn's girlfriend. Yeah. He said nothing happened for a long time. Then suddenly, a whole season later, she went to the cops. And Frank Cashin, the Mets general manager, yet again was calling me into his office for a serious chat. He said, do you have an attorney? No. Why?
Starting point is 01:56:16 Because you're being accused of rape. He said this wasn't the first time Frank had to make a speech like this to a player. David Cohn had been the focus of a sex assault investigation in Philadelphia toward the end of the previous season. From what I heard, he'd shunned an old reliable, quote unquote. Yeah. And chosen a different groupie, leaving the first woman upset enough to accuse him of assaulting her. Yeah. Wasn't that what Hubie Brooks had warned about in my rookie year?
Starting point is 01:56:42 That's what they went around. Keith Hernandez says, you drink yourself out of a slump. UB Brooks said, watch these damn. Watch the whores. Yeah. Watch the groupies who are possessive. Possessive groupies. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:56:55 He said, Frank told David he could be arrested at any moment. In the end, he wasn't. So, blah, blah, blah. I told Frank I'd get a lawyer. In Port St. Lucie, I was concerned about how the local folks would react as word spread around that three black ballplayers had been accused of raping a white woman. I was also concerned about spending the next decade or two in a Florida prison. All the New York papers sent more reporters down to cover the story. They began to fight with one another over scoops about the case.
Starting point is 01:57:21 For six weeks, what was left of my reputation was debated and trashed vince daryl and i all passed polygraphs and the woman's case began to fall apart it turned out she had some history making similar allegations on april 15th attorney bruce colton announced the case was being dropped uh but i definitely didn't get off free nor did those who loved me monica pregnant with our second daughter was crushed by the whole episode. I'm sure she was. As was my mother, who is still dealing with the grief from her own mom's death. They always believed I didn't rape the woman.
Starting point is 01:57:52 He said he never admitted having sex with the woman to his wife, but his wife was always pissed off about it. Forever. You don't have to admit it. There's a fucking DNA test. Your jizz is on her. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:58:02 You jizzed in her general... You were at least jizzed she was at least jizz adjacent so that's a problem you shouldn't be jizzing around other women never ever no that's a problem when you're married that your jizz stays inside you until you get to your wife that's it so you know it's supposed to happen other ladies dresses and you admitted that you had sex with her yeah publicly it's not even just that your jizz got like on a rag and then no her dress but in in the kitchen you wildly and openly said i fucked her or yeah like a small town murder scenario we had a show if you don't listen to
Starting point is 01:58:37 small town murder our last episode the man uh raped and killed a 66 year old woman right and then put her in the bathtub with some water to try to look like she was electrocuted. And his excuse, how his semen was inside of this woman, was, well, I work on construction on her house, and sometimes I fuck my wife before work, and then I wash my junk off in her tub. So some sperm must have reanimated from the water and swam toward the goal line into her.
Starting point is 01:59:06 That was his excuse. Put some dry freeze in the tub. It wasn't like that. That's an excuse. So you're like, huh? So if you don't listen to Swallowtail Murder, that's what you're missing out on. Shit like that.
Starting point is 01:59:15 White trash murder excuses. Fucking talk. I just can't imagine this. This is unbelievable. So 92 season, Mets finished 72 and 90. What year is this? That was 92. This is unbelievable. So, 92 season. Mets finished 72-90. Not doing great. That was 92. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:29 This is all going on. So, this is when I loved Doc, and I knew none of this. Oh, yeah. This was all huge news. This was amazing. He was an amazing ball player, and I knew none of this. That's amazing right there. This year, he's 10-13.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Uh-huh. So, not good. He's 367 ERA. Oh, no. It's it's lowest but it's the worst of his career oh 383 and 90 uh 206 innings so i mean uh 145 strikeouts he does win the silver slugger though really which is for the best hitter at your position so he's the best pitcher hitting pitcher in the national league which is a big fucking deal. He makes $5,166,667. For his worst season.
Starting point is 02:00:07 His best salary for his worst season. 93 with the Mets. Mets are 59-103 this year. Fucking terrible. God, they sucked back then. The Yankees, too, so I can't talk any shit. The Doc was 12-15 with a 345 ERA, so now he's after the rotator cuff. He's just consistently mediocre here.
Starting point is 02:00:26 29 games, 149 strikeouts, and 208 innings. He's not that electric strikeout guy anymore. He does make $5,916,667 this year. $10 million in two years. That's what I'm saying. Now, Doc later on will explain his downfall here. He says, quote quote i didn't think it happened before but in 92 and 93 all the drinking started to accumulate or started to
Starting point is 02:00:51 affect my performance it was cumulative after a while abusing your body catches up to you i'd be the first to admit that uh yeah i would say so now december 93 uh he fails a drug test, a major league drug test. For? Cocaine. Yeah. Yeah. Somehow, this article says that a high-ranking baseball official said that baseball's medical people chose to let it slide without informing the executive council or the players union. They were just like, we'll let you go on this one, which is weird.
Starting point is 02:01:24 Why? I don't know uh quote terrible right now that's what i mean uh one of the representatives said quote they didn't do him any favors by doing that it does make you wonder if there were any other times they did the same thing yeah how many were they letting slide right so 1994 season is the strike shortened season but before it comes to an end because because it came to an end, what, early August or something, there was an All-Star game and shit, I think, that year. 94 here, June 28th, he fails another cocaine test,
Starting point is 02:01:52 and he's suspended 60 days. So that year, 94, by the way, he's going to have a 3-4 record with a 651 ERA. Not wonderful. He does, however, make $4,616,667. He got the whole contract. Got it all. Now, July 22nd through August 14th, he goes to the Betty Ford Center.
Starting point is 02:02:14 Really? Rehab time. Yeah. After a second failed drug test of the year. On August 14th, Strawberry picks him up from the Betty Ford Center and drove him to Strawberry's new house and showed him his new house. And Strawberry said to him, quote, Doc, you've got to get out of Florida.
Starting point is 02:02:29 You've got to change your environment to keep from using. The most important thing they told me at Betty Ford was to change the whole atmosphere and get away from people who use. Get the fuck out of Tampa, stupid. Jesus Christ. Cut that circle out. That's the thing. But he said that, yeah, he went there.
Starting point is 02:02:46 He did a three-day session at some counseling thing in New York, a psychiatrist who has some program. And, yeah, they said, though, right after that, guess what he's doing? Drinking. Doing coke again. And then five months after that, strawberry test positive for cocaine. And fucks his career, too, because he was making a comeback with the Dodgers at one point and then the Giants, and it all went to shit.
Starting point is 02:03:11 Gooden says, quote, it just goes to show you it doesn't matter where you are, drugs, alcohol, it's everywhere. What's more important is that you can never let your guard down. Now, it's at this exact point that his ex, the one from Daryl Jr., wants more support. She asked the court for more support. By that, right now, she is making $6 an hour for the Florida Health and Rehabilitative Services Department. Yeah, she has a state job. He is making $5 million a year.
Starting point is 02:03:38 He agreed, after several months of going back and forth in court, he finally agrees to pay $2,500 a month support and to purchase a $60,000 house for her and her son in Florida, which in Florida in the early 90s would buy you a decent house. Now it won't, but back then it would. So October 24th, 1994, he's granted free agency. So now he's a free agent. So now he can go look for a team. There's a strike going on, so whatever. But he can look for a team. November 5th 1994 he fails another cocaine god damn it doc not not going to be most attractive to a team especially when you're not allowed to play next year because they
Starting point is 02:04:15 suspend him for the entire 1995 season really whole year gone uh suspended the whole year uh yeah that's number four though isn't it yeah this is a lot he's really failing all of them uh he says quote it was my five million dollar high because that's because that's what i was going to be paid that year uh he said uh yeah he said he would uh his life went downhill he said he'd go in a hotel for two or three days at a time go through two thousand dollars a day in cocaine oh boy that's a lot of cocaine that's a lot of money that's a lot of fucking money too he said he didn't want to go home and have his kids see him he didn't know what to do uh so another friend of him was a
Starting point is 02:04:54 floyd human yeomans who's a pitcher in the big leagues uh told good in one time that what told press about good in one time he was with with him. Gooden signed over a 1988 Mercedes signed over for a thousand dollars worth of crack. He didn't even have the patience to go. He could have went to a fucking dealership and said whatever and they'll give him wholesale price for it
Starting point is 02:05:18 and he would have still walked her out with 10, 12 grand. He didn't have the patience to go to a dealership and go give me anything I don't care. He got a thousand dollars worth of crack, which was gone in, you know, tonight. He says, quote, I just totally gave up on trying to be clean. It was as bad as I ever was.
Starting point is 02:05:36 The Mets general manager, Joe McElvain, in a non-silver statement, he said, Dwight Gooden needs to get his life in order. Dwight needs himself to realize the problem and come to grips with said, Dwight Gooden needs to get his life in order. Dwight needs himself to realize the problem and come to grips with it. Dwight needs to demonstrate that same degree of competitiveness to defeat
Starting point is 02:05:52 a far more insidious enemy that is sucking the life out of him, both personally and professionally. Yeah, I agree. A hundred percent. He said he's fallen in a giant pit right now. We all hope and pray he's able to dig himself out. Let's keep praying. That'll do it.'s called a den it's a yeah crack den right so uh the member uh uh dykstra talking about sheen's crack den that was a good crack den though that sounded fun minus the crack
Starting point is 02:06:17 it's a fun one it's a fun one he says uh his agent says the bottom line is if he's going to have to he's going to have to rid himself of the problem that's it there's no maybe or fine line so uh yeah i would say so uh he said he's determined to beat it and get back to 100 health and when that's achieved uh we'll think about baseball so he's fucked uh he would describe how a beer nor just having a casual beer would start a chain reaction of a few more beers that would then say, start doing some shots and then would lead to Coke. That was his, his progression.
Starting point is 02:06:50 He says, if I don't drink, I have no desire to use Coke. You could put a bag of Coke in front of me right now and I have no desire for it at all. Once I drink, especially when I get drunk, the desire is there.
Starting point is 02:07:01 The hard stuff leads to Coke. It was the same thing over and over again. My problems have never been here in St. Pete. I was always getting into trouble in Tampa. It's strange. I have a son in Tampa, and I go there all the time to see him. If I go to Tampa during the day, I'm fine. But in Tampa, after the sun goes down, it's like I'm a vampire.
Starting point is 02:07:18 Pirates and whores! It's like I'm a vampire. I change. The roosters get inside my brain. brain no he doesn't say the rooster he can't have a beer without coke uh he says i change get a beer for the ride meet my friends go to a club and i'm in trouble yeah that's called going out and partying yeah he said when did it happen uh that's one of the things i'm trying to work out with my counselor it's tough to try to pinpoint it it's not like it's only one thing it's not that simple when you go out and get
Starting point is 02:07:48 shit face to the max i still can't pinpoint it yeah i've seen people that only smoke when they drink but when they drink boy do they smoke they're animals they turn into monsters give me a cigarette i've never seen anybody that gets drunk and goes, fucking coke. Yeah. What? Fucking coke, man. Give me it. This is crazy. A lot of people like that. I know. That's like the gangsters back east, like the mob guys.
Starting point is 02:08:12 They would do coke when they drink to keep them up all night. Do a bunch of drugs. You're all drunk in your sweat. It's fucking crazy. Do a bunch of coke. You level yourself out. Then you can drink a bunch more. All right.
Starting point is 02:08:19 You can do a bunch more coke. It makes sense chemically. You can party for three days. You can do coke and drink for days at a time and never feel tired or drunk or too high why balance it all out the whole point of drinking is to get drunk i don't understand it i can't stand coke so i don't understand it at all the whole thing's fucking horrible to me it sounds awful i don't want to keep drinking i want to know i want to drink till i fucking go to sleep and be done with with it. Yeah. He says, people ask, how can you not know when you're getting tested? It's not that easy to.
Starting point is 02:08:48 I remember when Otis Nixon tested positive again. For ugly face. For ugly face. I was like, oh, man, how could a guy do something like that with so much on the line? Now I understand. Yeah. Coke. That's how.
Starting point is 02:09:00 He says that, you know, he says now afterwards, he's sober. He's saying now he says, I want the test. It's one thing to say it. Another thing to have the proof to show it. He said he's devoted himself to three times a week AA meetings, two times a week sessions with a personal counselor. One of the members of an AA group of his AA group is a 70 year old man who's been attending these meetings for 30 years. And he said he couldn't said he was shocked to hear this guy say that he still wants to go back to alcohol at times. And, yeah, he said that it's, you know, it is what it is.
Starting point is 02:09:35 He said, I can see why people have relapses. You can never have this thing beat. I have to accept that. I still have my days where I get down. The difference is it doesn't stay with me as long as it did in August and September. So this is still bad. Ninety-five doesn't stay with me as long as it did in August and September. So this is still bad. 95 doesn't play. He's suspended. June of 95, though, he's saying he wants to play with the Yankees next year.
Starting point is 02:09:52 Strawberry is signed with the Yankees. And he wants to go there, too. He says, I go to daily meetings of Narcotics Anonymous and AA meetings as well. I've been clean since September. It's been nine months. He said baseball is not the most important thing in my life anymore the time away has allowed me to get involved with the program it's allowed me to do a lot of soul searching and find myself so life got out of control for a while it's not like i planned this drug addiction it happens to lawyers and doctors and everyone else
Starting point is 02:10:18 too the fans may feel i betrayed them but i always gave them 100 when i took the ball so there you go 1996 reinstated signs as a free agent with new york yankees uh says he almost killed himself at this point while he was suspended he says that uh uh one night he had a loaded gun to his head and was thinking about killing himself and their soldier he said he was destroyed by the one-year suspension thought his life and career was over and thought he was fucked and he was destroyed by the one year suspension thought his life and career was over and thought he was fucked and he was embarrassed by everything well you've got 15 million dollars and like eight kids at this point too let's think about that uh he said that his wife monica walked in on him and screamed at him and took the gun away from him he said quote i was sitting in the
Starting point is 02:11:00 bedroom with a gun in my hand my wife walked in and I actually had the gun to my head thinking about pulling the trigger. He said he this was the day after the suspension came in and he said he had to think about it. He said I was so distraught over that I was sitting there with the gun. I'd say go ahead and end it. But then I'd say no be a man and face up to your responsibilities your wife and kids. That's when my wife walked into the room. He said I don't know if I would have ever actually done it. But then but then my wife walked in and she just freaked she started screaming and she grabbed the gun for me yeah what that's what they do oh wow that's yeah that's a reasonable reaction let's just say that uh when i think about it now it was crazy the gun was loaded it could have gone off but she grabbed it from me and then she ran and called my mom and
Starting point is 02:11:43 told her to come over right away when i think about it the whole thing was terrifying i would say so i would hope so yeah he said it would be the toughest scene in the movie because he said he wants to have a movie made about his life he said this would be the toughest scene in the movie especially for my wife and mother i haven't talked about this but it would have to be in the movie if i'm going to be honest and do something that will make people understand what i went through with drugs so 1996 yankees he's good now yeah doc is clean yeah it's a year off he's ready to come in uh and he he does this is the 19 this is a magical season he's a part of another magical new york season doc though has a magical time of his own may 14th 1996 versus the mariners doc throws a no-hitter no kidding fucking no
Starting point is 02:12:26 hitter he comes back this was the most miraculous shit in the world by the way surgery after drugs has been gone a year rape charges he was a he was an afterthought of hope maybe he'll make the team right and in may he throws a goddamn no-hitter they carried him off the field it was a really big deal for like the players and it was a big deal for the Yankees here. That started a streak, because then Cone had a perfect game, then Wells had a perfect game in the next couple years. Nine innings pitched, no hits,
Starting point is 02:12:54 no runs, six walks, five Ks. He's a battler now, though. He's got to. He's got to. If he gets behind on someone, he'd rather lose them to the walk than get bombed on. So he's got to be smart now. This is the Yankee team. Joe Girardi, Tino Martinez, Jorge Posada was the backup catcher there.
Starting point is 02:13:12 Jeter, Boggs, Charlie Hayes caught the last out of the World Series. It's that team. Andy Pettit, Kenny Rogers, Doc Gooden, Jimmy Key, David Cohn was the staff. He stuck around for so long. Yeah, that was the core of the team. This was the year Mariano Rivera was a setup guy. He many stuck around for so long. Yeah, that was the core of the team. This was the year Mariano Rivera was a setup guy. He wasn't even the closer yet. John Wetland, who will definitely
Starting point is 02:13:30 have his own episode, was the closer. And Mariano Rivera, who will definitely not have an episode unless he goes nuts out of nowhere. Plus he just murders people because he has the weirdest face on earth. Yeah, I can't take it anymore. Good grief, his cheekbones are psychotic.
Starting point is 02:13:45 This is the last year he's not a closer for like 20 years, which is pretty awesome. Doc here goes 11-7, 5-0-1 ERA. So he battles and struggles. He had 170 innings pitched, 126 strikeouts. Makes $950. Also really $950,000. Also really endears himself to George Steinbrenner. Really?
Starting point is 02:14:06 Steinbrenner has a soft spot for him in Strawberry. Really? Oh, my God. When Strawberry was two- Steinbrenner like Coke? Probably. He likes Coke. Yeah, it's Steve Howe.
Starting point is 02:14:15 Same thing. Yeah. He's got a soft spot for guys who fuck up. Yeah. It's a weird thing. I don't know if he sees it as- You want to fix him? No, I think it's a business thing.
Starting point is 02:14:24 I think he sees it as a fix them i know i think it's a business thing i think he sees it as buying low yeah you you can buy this amazing racehorse who just has a cold right now if you fix his cold he's gonna fucking win races right i feel like that's the way he looks at the talent that's the way he looks at things but then once they're in there he gets some weird personal loyalty to these people daryl strawberry holy shit he paid his back taxes he owed like a million in back taxes. He paid that, gave him a job as a spring training instructor. He had cancer. He fucking paid for his medical.
Starting point is 02:14:52 Took care of everything for Darryl Strawberry. And he did the same for Doc. Gave him a job later on. Is it because they both came from the Mets, too? And that feels good to take care of a beaten horse that used to play for your rival? They both play really hard, too, which is another thing George has. George has the soft spot for guys with heart, except for Don Mattingly, who we hated like the plague. Because Mattingly was a dick to him, which is why I love Mattingly.
Starting point is 02:15:16 Mattingly, he's got the most heart. He's just a dick of a fuck. That guy just loves baseball. Yeah, he does. So 9-5-97 for the Yankees. This is a 4-91 ERA, so he's a different pitcher now. He's never going to be a 3-ERA kind of guy again. Does make $2 million that year.
Starting point is 02:15:33 Not bad. No, the Yankees end up losing to the Indians in the ALCS that year. November 1st, 97, he's a free agent. So December 8th, he signs as a free agent with Cleveland Indians. So 1998, this was too bad he wasn't on the yankees because that was their magical insane best season ever there instead he goes to the indians he goes eight and six with a 376 era so much better 134 innings only 83 strikeouts by september 3rd 1998 or he's off. His house is all fucked up, and he's mad about it.
Starting point is 02:16:07 In Cleveland? No, in Florida. Oh, okay. He's not going to Cleveland. Are you kidding me? He's not staying there? No. He's renting?
Starting point is 02:16:13 I don't care where you're from. No one's like, I'm moving to Cleveland now. Sorry, we've been there. No. It's not Omaha or anything. Don't get me wrong, but it's Cleveland still. The good news playing for Cleveland is Coke is a plentiful. I'm sure. I'm sure that shit is everywhere. It's all over or anything. Don't get me wrong, but it's Cleveland still. Good news for Cleveland is Coke is a plentiful. I'm sure.
Starting point is 02:16:27 I'm sure that shit is everywhere. It's all over the place, probably. You could sell your Mercedes for a house back then in Cleveland, probably. Now, in 93, they had bought a home, him and his wife here. They bought a home. It's an 11,000 square foot home. It's a big one. It's a big house.
Starting point is 02:16:45 square foot home it's a big one that they bought a big house and uh they apparently are now suing the contractor here because they said that the home was like breaking as soon as they moved in he paid this design company thirty thousand dollars to draw up plans and oversee construction and apparently they didn't do that well so like the architect yeah he's suing them saying they didn't oversee it properly uh he said there's a bunch of cracks that the they were told were cosmetic settlement cracks that turned out to be cracks in the whole thing a crack in your house is a quote-unquote settlement crack cause fuck you fix it that's fine don't worry about it don't worry about it relax cracking't worry about it. Relax. Cracking my brain. Hey, it's 11,000 square feet. Just go in another fucking room. It's all right.
Starting point is 02:17:27 It's going to crack. Don't worry about it. There's 11,000 square feet of it. What? Like this is the only place in the fucking house you can hang out? Somewhere else if you don't like looking at the goddamn thing. It's cosmetic. It's not cracks.
Starting point is 02:17:37 In the suit, they say the design was defective and drawn without the benefit of an architect or structural engineer. Leaking and cracking has continued. There's a gap near the roof connection that's one half to three quarters of an inch deep. It's, Jesus Christ, moisture seeping in through the cracks in the walls has penetrated the drywall, drapes and carpets and cabinets. What? Paint is peeling and cracking. Wallpaper is bubbling.
Starting point is 02:18:02 Tile is loose. Mold and mildew have taken hold, and it smells. how does the fucking company think they're not going to get sued for this that's what i've said they're suing for 525 547 which is their estimated repair costs plus court costs attorney fees and money to cover the relocation while the home is being renovated a million dollars half a million bucks so wow he does get paid two million seven hundred eighty seven thousand five hundred dollars for this year okay this late 90s is when pitcher salaries were insane insane i remember darren dryford getting five years 55 million dollars maybe not him but that's that's the type of money though decent pitcher automatic hundred million back then so it was like get doc a decent number three guy in the rotation for
Starting point is 02:18:44 almost three million that was considered a bargain back yeah it's a like get doc a decent number three guy in the rotation for almost three million that was considered a bargain back yeah it's a fucking hell of a steal so 1999 he releases a book uh heat my life on and off the diamond oh boy it sounds like i'm sure it's a page turner i didn't read that one it sounded boring it sounded like a bunch of playing bullshit. So this year, 1999, Cleveland, he goes three and four, pitches in 26 games, 6.26 ERA. Not wonderful. That's downhill from there. 88 strikeouts in 115 innings.
Starting point is 02:19:15 Does make $2,637,500. And in November, he is a free agent. And the Yankees won the World Series that year as well. So he missed that, too. January 6, 2000, he signs as a free agent with the Astros. His ex wants more support for Daryl Jr. as well. She says the 1,200-square-foot house that he bought is getting cramped. There's two sons there, including Dwight Jr. and everything.
Starting point is 02:19:44 It's a two-, one bath home. She wants to get something larger. And he's he said that he's trying to get out of it, saying that he's not making as much money as he used to. Two thousand. April 13th. His contract is purchased by the Devil Rays from the Houston Astros. He had signed with the Astros for a little while before the season. And then May 25th, he's released by the Devil Rays.
Starting point is 02:20:09 Signed June 11, 2000 as a free agent with the Yankees. See what I mean? He did this. They did the same thing with David Cohn. Cohn left, went to the Red Sox. He was totally done. Steinbrenner signed him for a one-year $10 million contract. He just said just because he got paid less than he should have some of the years he was here.
Starting point is 02:20:26 Wow. He gave his players money that he felt that he underpaid them. Steinbrenner's a hell of a man. Weird shit. Nobody does that in sports. It's a weird thing. Cone was worth the minimum. He was a minimum pitcher, lucky to make the roster, $10 million.
Starting point is 02:20:42 It said services rendered is what he said he did it for. No matter what he does this year, he earned it before. Pretty cool. I guess if you pitch a perfect game for him, it's probably a memory thing. Also, he made a shitload of money because of that guy. Yeah. He ends up pitching in 18 games for the Yankees. He ends up only starting five, but going four and two with a.336 ERA for the end of the year.
Starting point is 02:21:04 So, I mean, fuck yeah, man. He does his thing there. ends up only starting five but going four and two with a 336 era for the end of the year so i mean fuck yeah man he does his thing there uh makes 500 grand for that year and that is it for him though done uh in 2000 he comes back again he signs a free agent deal with the yankees uh goes through spring training but does not make the roster is cut on march 31st 2001 uh just didn't quite cut it there 16 years but he played a shitload of years total 194 wins 112 losses 351 lifetime era 2293 strikeouts uh damn good career not bad at all pretty good pretty fucking respectable career there uh and that whole thing here so he retires yeah that year uh He says, quote, I always think about what might have been
Starting point is 02:21:46 if I had taken a little better care of myself, but I decided I didn't want to think about the what-ifs today. I want to enjoy the moment, look back at all the great things I've done in my career, all the great people I've met. It was a joyous ride. I have no complaints. And he shouldn't because he made about $36 million.
Starting point is 02:22:02 What the shit? Just on baseball salary. That's besides all of his endorsements and everything else. So, yeah, that's a lot. Oh, my God. Yankees hire him as a, quote, special assistant. In other words, wear a Yankee hat and we'll pay you a salary. Half a million dollars.
Starting point is 02:22:16 Reggie Jackson was a special assistant for 20 years. That means show up and wear a Yankee hat at Yankee games. High-five some kids that go the fuck home. Just be an ambassador of the team type of thing. Now, February 21st, 2002, police spot him weaving in the outside lane of an expressway headed east at about 1130 p.m. He said he saw the patrol car approach from behind and slowed down to less than 40 miles an hour, even though there was not a lot of traffic. They're saying he was going too slow, and he said, I was going slow because I saw you.
Starting point is 02:22:50 So I slowed down. Slowed down so we can... Yeah. Yeah. The problem was he had a Michelob light bottle that was in his lap, which was a problem, or in the center console. So they said, why do you have that? And he was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:23:04 So thirsty. So they said, why do you have that? And he was like, I don't know. So he did a field sobriety test and passed those. But they said that the police report said that his speech was slurred and his eyes were red and watery. And he asked, well, where are you going? And he said, I'm on my way to pick up my son and take him to a game. It's 1130 at night. Yeah. There's no games to take your son to. What are you doing?
Starting point is 02:23:24 They said, why don't we take a breathalyzer? Because that's not where you're going, sir. I guarantee it. game it's 11 30 at night yeah there's no games to take your son what are you doing uh they said why don't we take a breathalyzer because that's not where you're going sir i guarantee it he said no uh he he told him so they said all right well you're under arrest then because that's part of the deal uh so uh he said he has uh jesus christ he said that uh uh he's later on he says that he would tell the officers thank you because uh he wasn't on his way uh to see his son or to a game he said i'll be honest i was headed out to have some drinks with friends the police did me a favor i put myself in a bad situation that night i might even have started using drugs again it was very poor judgment on my part i wasn't drunk but with
Starting point is 02:24:02 my history i shouldn't have even had one drink i was upset with them at first but it was my fault if it if i continue drinking that night who knows what might have happened uh so he ends up pleading guilty to reckless driving later on yeah uh yeah he's uh arrested on reckless driving an open container all of his teammates david cone said uh that the first thing that i do is worry when I see this sort of thing. I'm worried about a friend. I certainly support Doc. I'm always behind him, even though, bang, my girlfriend. I'm also worried about my ex-girlfriend, and maybe he's on his way to go fuck her. Yeah, who knows what's going on.
Starting point is 02:24:35 My current girlfriend. Yeah, I called my wife. She's at home, so it was fine. Now, three days later. When things like this happen, I worry. I worry. You know, I'm a very worried. Whoever I'm dating at the moment. I call worry. I'm a very worried.
Starting point is 02:24:45 Whoever I'm dating at the moment. I call them. I go, you're right. Doc Gooden's not at your house, is he? He's drunk. He's hammered. He's on the couch. He won't leave.
Starting point is 02:24:52 He's playing RBI baseball. I know. It's like 2002. I don't know why. Three days later, George Steinbrenner is still pissed about this, though. He's fucking mad about this. He wants Doc to be clean and sober here. So he's refusing to comment about it publicly.
Starting point is 02:25:06 Steinbrenner, which is not normal for him. Also, there's they say that Steinbrenner won't accept Gooden's phone calls at this point. Oh, no, that's not good. Now, in June, prosecutors agree to drop the DUI charge because the police video of Gooden's sobriety test was inconclusive. He's fined four hundred dollars and required to perform 21 hours of community service, and he's placed on probation. Having a great attorney must be amazing. It must be fucking amazing.
Starting point is 02:25:33 A great one? I'd just settle for one that's retained. One that he probably has? That's pretty impressive. Retained and top-notch. Like, he can call at 2 a.m., and that motherfucker will get out of his beautiful house and get in his $120,000 car and come to the fucking jail for you. That's the kind of money Doc couldn't show up.
Starting point is 02:25:52 He'll take off his silky monogrammed PJ. That's right. He'll show up right at the police station. Monogrammed PJs and a briefcase. Where's my client? Periscue. I'm here for Doc. I got right out of bed.
Starting point is 02:26:03 He says, though, he hasn't had the Yankees accepted him back at his uh he says though he hasn't had uh the yankees accepted him back at his job he said he hasn't even had a beer since that night at all he said so it's he's good yeah he's good now super good late 2002 here uh this they're having financial problems the goodens the steinbrenner urged them to put their house on the market and move into a more affordable home. So they bought a $370,000 house here. And financial problems are, again, even in this house. It's a 3,900-square-foot home here. A flooring company files a lien against the Gooden, saying they didn't pay their $3,900 bill for custom hardwood floors.
Starting point is 02:26:41 And in January, a bank files a foreclosure suit saying they missed mortgage payments since November, so three months. And the back payments were made, presumably by George Steinbrenner, I bet. And the suit was dismissed, but then they fell behind again in the summer. And another suit says that Gooden failed to pay more than $18,000 owed on his American Express card.
Starting point is 02:27:04 What? They will send hit men to your house at Amex. You better pay that shit. You pay Amex. They're not fucking around. That's the most ruthless. You think the mafia's gone? They just got different jobs.
Starting point is 02:27:15 They all work for Amex and they'll come for you. And also, he missed several payments of $1,829 on his car. $1,800 car payment he's dollars on his car eighteen hundred dollar car payment he's got on his eighty thousand dollar bmw oh my god was he upside down on like four cars what was he doing you have that car i don't know uh he recently caught up on those payments though so he's having all these there's all these lawsuits going around january 4 2003 he's arrested
Starting point is 02:27:43 for driving with a suspended license he's not drunk uh or don coke or anything not got a license just doesn't have a license there's a traffic stop where tampa of course uh he's charged he's they noticed that he failed to stay in his lane and uh they pulled him over and uh he said he was charged with knowingly driving with a suspended license it's just a misdemeanor he He's taken to jail, and that was that. They said that he was cooperative during the arrest, and there's no evidence to suggest he was driving under the influence of anything,
Starting point is 02:28:12 so there'll be no charge for DUI. So that's good anyway. $36 million. Stop driving. What are you doing? Take a fucking cab. You're missing... He's missing payments.
Starting point is 02:28:21 He's missing payments. He's got, yeah, well... $36 million. Gets worse. April 2003, Monicaica his wife uh there takes him to court uh saying uh for an emergency petition for support this is his current wife uh for for his daughters who are 12 and 13 and his two sons that are seven and eight that he's had with her mortgage payments and utility bills on their home in tampa were going unpaid that he was supposed to pay uh jgage payments and utility bills on their home in Tampa were going unpaid
Starting point is 02:28:45 that he was supposed to pay. Jesus Christ. Family law judge ordered him to pay $13,600 a month to his wife for support. Oh, Jesus. God damn. Holy shit. Wow.
Starting point is 02:28:57 For how long? For like two payments? Shit, that's a lot of fucking money, man. Wow. You're like, I don't know how long you want me to keep that. It's not going to last long, I'll tell you tell you that your honor i can't pay my car payment your honor i've paid a month and uh do you know of any one bedroom apartments i can move into possibly and is anybody looking for a roommate anybody looking for blow jobs because i'm like a clerk
Starting point is 02:29:18 or a bailiff here like needs a roommate lives with their mom right now like i'll pay up to 400 a month that's all i got wow so uh good and said no but then finally the judge found him in contempt of court and so he said you know what i'll find the money yeah the judge wants to put you in contempt you find it so he paid uh wrote a check for more than 38 000 to avoid a five month jail sentence uh or 29 day a five month 29 day just short of six month jail sentence, or 29-day, a five-month, 29-day, just short of six-month jail sentence. And soon afterwards, they end up separating here. And in August, he files for divorce.
Starting point is 02:29:52 And now he asked the judge to reduce the support, saying that it greatly exceeds his income, $13,000 a month. And her lawyer says a sports star leaves the limelight and goes to something more mundane, and it can be very painful. The transition from star to supporting actor is very difficult to make. Dwight hasn't handled it so well. Now, they're also trying to get an accounting of his assets here. There's a financial affidavit filed by him saying he had assets totaling $879,830, but most of the cash received in the last year isn't listed.
Starting point is 02:30:27 It indicates that he has no income except his $100,000 a year salary as Steinbrenner assistant and that, but he's making more than that. How does he have that much money or that many assets? There's a quote here that says, every superior wage earner sings a sad song and says, I can't pay this or I can't pay that. But I don't think he's being forthcoming. He's a bit of a mystery man in that respect. So they talk about that. He still lives in the home.
Starting point is 02:30:55 She says that he comes in at weird hours and gave her nine thousand dollars to pay some credit cards and other smaller amounts. And if I'm going to the store or if the kids need to be fed. But he's not paying the bills. She said at one point her water and electric service were about to be turned off for nonpayment. Also, they can see that he had two checks totaling more than $1.3 million in deferred payments from the Mets from the 90s. How much? $1.3 million, but he only has $384,000 in the bank. Okay.
Starting point is 02:31:26 So they're like, okay, did you piss a million dollars away last year or what here? October 2003, Dwight Jr. is arrested. For what? What do you think, Jimmy? I'll give you one guess.
Starting point is 02:31:36 Fucking cocaine. Yeah. He's arrested. He's got the thirst. After a sheriff's sting operation charged with two counts of possession of cocaine and one count of delivery of cocaine. He says he's innocent and says that it's a case of mistaken identity.
Starting point is 02:31:52 I'm not my dad. I'm not my dad. I'm junior. He faces a 15-year possible prison sentence. Police say he and a 19-year-old named Kendon Davis sold undercover cops 2.4 grams of crack. So, yeah. kendon davis sold undercover cops 2.4 grams of crack uh so yeah now uh the gooden says that this came after his son just transferred to a new high school because he's been receiving taunts about his father in the old high school uh so he said this one he had the same thing in this new high
Starting point is 02:32:20 school and uh yeah now the his ex-wife or his ex-girlfriend deborah hamilton who's this guy's mother here uh says she she blames him for it and he blames her for poor conditions in the home and that dwight jr's discipline discipline problems are failing and failing grades are her fault not his cocaine genetics he accused her of diverting support money for Dwight Jr. to other household expenses. And she says, the woman here says that Dwight Jr. needs counseling because of, quote, problems between me and his father. And yeah, so Jesus Christ here. So she wants also money for another house. so she wants also money for another house so uh yeah she wants to he wants the money to be reduced when he turns 20 it's a long story here it's all about all about financial bullshit but he turns
Starting point is 02:33:14 20 yeah well i don't know how that works how are you getting it two years extra i don't know what and then to get it reduced it should be over by then it should be done two years yeah that's it now uh now uh so dwight jr obviously faces uh you know cocaine distribution charges now what the fuck is doc up to what's up doc yeah what are you doing yeah he's fucking eating that's what he's doing uh yeah during he said that he engaged more with his children this during after he played and with his wife uh but found himself deeply unhappy with his life binge eating and he said he eventually got up to 285 pounds holy shit playing weight was like 198 yeah so that's a little over he said quote i was sitting at home just watching tv shows like gun smoke and
Starting point is 02:33:57 matlock and eating everything in sight he's living like an old just like a sad 60s, 70s shows. Super weird. What is he doing? September 2004, court for Junior here. Yeah. He is facing the sentence. Prosecutors dismiss the cocaine delivery charge, and he pleads guilty to two charges of possession of cocaine, sentenced to 24 months probation, and ordered to perform 150 hours of community service.
Starting point is 02:34:24 Yeah, and now you're in the system, Junior. Yeah. probation in order to perform 150 hours of community service system junior yeah uh well he spent 10 weeks in jail also between court appearances uh because he tested positive for marijuana use and being charged with a probation violation there uh so yeah that's how that works so they dismissed that but he's also got fucking problems yeah and he must uh his lawyer says this is a bright intelligent young man full of potential there's no doubt in my mind he'll be found not guilty of this so on probation he must submit to twice weekly or twice monthly drug screenings here uh november 2004 doc has another kid really dylan with his girlfriend now monica moore monique moore not monica it's
Starting point is 02:35:03 fucking confusing his wife name is monica monique is basically french monica you can't do that you can't you shouldn't ever get together with someone it even starts with the same letter as your ex never mind the same fucking no first four letters i wouldn't want that it's crazy i never want to see if you have monica monique you're going to confuse the names too and get and get yelled at at some point. So March 13th, 2005, he's living in infant, newly girlfriend-ed bliss here. Cops arrive after Doc allegedly punches his girlfriend in the forehead. Of course he did. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:38 Wow. Apparently she threw a house phone at him, and he responded by punching her in the forehead. Oh, boy uh that was the allegations here uh the police representative said basically there was a bruise starting to form on her face which was consistent with the story she told we arrested him and charged him with one count of domestic battery this is 12 44 a.m yeah house phones and forehead punches that's when it happens uh that's the name of the show, by the way. House Phones and Forehead Punches.
Starting point is 02:36:06 I don't think it gets better than that as a show title. So I got to write that. House Phones. Forehead. Okay, good. 1244. He's held without bond and must appear before a judge before they let him out. May 31st, 2005.
Starting point is 02:36:21 He's asking for joint custody of his son. He wants legal documentation of fatherhood and shared custody. That kid needs his own punch in the forehead, he feels. And he's going to do it. He wants to erase the child support. That's what he's doing. Haven't you been in court enough? Truly. Just stop.
Starting point is 02:36:38 He's fucking, what do you do? Why are you hiding cash, clearly? You've got to be. That's the thing. He's in court, wandering around. What is he doing? It's the thing. I mean, he's in court wandering around. Just pay your bills. What is he doing? It's funny, too, because while he's in court the one day, a man walks up to him, very well-dressed man, and introduces himself. And you know who it is?
Starting point is 02:36:56 No. It's Adam Jones, a roogla connoisseur. And he says to Doc, and he says he has no music, by the way. He says, sir? No, I don't. They asked me what type of music. First, how is it you've come to? Yes, I know.
Starting point is 02:37:09 How is it you've come to arrive here? I'm supposed to. That's I get it. They ask, but that's the whole thing. That's the thing here. But they asked me what type of music I would like. I was like, how do you judge music? I said maybe like something from like a barbershop quartet, possibly, if you have that.
Starting point is 02:37:24 And is there an arugula polka? I don't know the arugula polka dance I'm thinking possibly, but I'm not sure. But this is ridiculous. Doc, I'm sorry for you. You go to a place, a nightclub to have a refreshment after a hard day's work. You meet a nice young lady. You're trying to be a gentleman. You know, look what happens.
Starting point is 02:37:42 I'll tell you, boy, you can't win for losing. Jesus H. McGillicuddy, I'll tell look, look what happens. I'll tell you, boy, you can't win for losing. Jesus H. McGillicuddy. I'll tell you, this is ridiculous. You simply try to make sure your girlfriend is aware of her surroundings after she erroneously tosses a phone and you slap. It's like in the movies. You slap a person and then they're better. You do it.
Starting point is 02:38:00 You just can't please people. It's ridiculous. I'm sorry for your plight. Poof. And then a poof of arugula leaves. Grilled chicken and arugula. Grilled chicken. Doc is very confused.
Starting point is 02:38:11 And he goes, don't I know that motherfucker? He plays football, don't he? Yeah. So August 9th, 2005, Daryl Jr. is arrested again. What? He is arrested again for violating probation. Yeah. And faces additional charges of having marijuana and bullets in his car.
Starting point is 02:38:27 Oh, don't do that. Don't do that. Yeah, he's being held. Drugs and weapons now. And weapons. Yeah, he's already wanted on an outstanding warrant for violating probation before. How is he a gangster? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:38:40 He's jailed. He lives in kind of a shitty area, a shitty house. Yeah, but how did he do this? I don't know. He's jailed. He lives in kind of a shitty area, a shitty house. Yeah, but how did he do this? I don't know. They found outside of a downtown Tampa club 16 grams of marijuana and.44 caliber ammunition in his car. Damn, he's going with the big dog, too. A lot of weed, too. Yeah, a little over half ounce.
Starting point is 02:38:58 He's charged with possession of marijuana, being a felon in possession of ammunition, and violating probation. So there's that. August 22nd, 2005. That was August 9th. Yeah. August 22nd, early morning hours, Doc is heading to his sister's house for a party, and he's also going to score some cocaine on the way, and cops pull him over for erratic driving. Police say he smelled of alcohol and was slurring his speech but he refused to get out of his car or submit to a breathalyzer test uh police called for backup
Starting point is 02:39:30 and gooden fucking took off he just drove away in his car he fled yeah uh in his bmw screeching going up and down one-way streets the wrong way uh finally escaping the cops getting to a friend's house to where he fucking holed up for three days really uh in this friend's house presumably smoking a shitload of crack tons i would imagine uh august 26 now a few days later he finally surrenders uh to police he turns himself in and uh he's gonna end up getting probation for a felony of fleeing and eluding uh as part of his plea deal he's ordered to complete a drug probation for a felony of fleeing and eluding. As part of his plea deal, he's ordered to complete a drug treatment, get a full-time job, and spend 100 hours speaking to 100 schools, Little League teams, and other youth groups about how drugs affected his life. At that time, he also pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor battery charge from the punching his girlfriend in the forehead. He was sentenced to 45 days in jail and given credit for time already served.
Starting point is 02:40:26 He's ordered to take anger management classes. The fucked up part, when he's taken to jail and they put him in county, guess who else is there? Who? His boy. Oh, what? Senior and junior.
Starting point is 02:40:38 They're in the same cell? Same jail. Oh, amazing. Same thing together. Both in the Hillsborough County Jail together. That's wild. Both fucking goodens, man. On the same day. I don't think we've had that in crime sports. Not yet. cell. Same thing together. Both in the Hillsborough County Jail together. That is wild. Both fucking Goodens, man. On the same day.
Starting point is 02:40:46 I don't think we've had that in crime sports. Not yet. We've had juniors. We've never had them sharing the same cell block before. So, hey, congratulations, Doc. Way to go. Way to go, fellas. Boom.
Starting point is 02:40:54 Bells are going. Whee. You did it. A first. You fucked up worse than anyone else. Good job, buddy. Wow. His last name is Gooden.
Starting point is 02:41:03 Anything but. March 14th, 2006, he goes into his probation officer and fails a cocaine test. Fails a drug test for cocaine. And his probation officers. And he's given the choice of extended probation or prison, and he chooses prison. Yeah. So he does a little over six months in prison. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:19 He talks about, he just says, fuck it, send me to jail. Let's go. He did like the Henry Hill thing. He took a bunch of pills, and he fuck it, send me to jail. Let's go. He did like the Henry Hill thing. He took a bunch of pills and he goes, now take me to jail. Well, the thing, otherwise you're just going to fucking be out there on the streets, get rocked up. Well, you're just going to keep. You're going to go back in anyway.
Starting point is 02:41:32 Back for probation anyway. Just pay your time and be over. He wrote in his book that he basically, he could have gotten five years behind bars if he violated again. So he just did this and he'll serve some time. He said, I told the judge, quote, I have a problem, sir, with cocaine. I have a problem, sir, with cocaine. We know.
Starting point is 02:41:53 And arugula. I had a cocaine relapse, he said. It's well documented. Yeah. He'd been ordered to stay away from alcohol, drugs, and bars and to submit to a minimum of three random urine tests a week and uh all of that shit uh but he chose he said making the decision to prison in his mind he thought it was best for him uh his his uh attorney said this is not a case of a pampered athlete he took it like a man he took it like any citizen in this situation he didn't whimper he didn't cry he didn't beg he took it like a man well he chose that yeah uh so he says uh of the seeing of being in jail
Starting point is 02:42:26 with his son he says quote i always used to visualize maybe playing ball together professionally the two of us you never imagined doing time with your son no i would say not uh so uh he said he heard uh he heard people being raped and that freaked him out i'm sure as i would imagine he remembers that yeah well yeah that'll stick in your mind yeah he remembers they don't seem like that remember when you did that one he says quote i'd rather get shot than ever come back here yeah this is what he says while he's in there he goes you come from playing professional baseball where everyone knows you and everybody loves you now you're wearing an orange jumpsuit and guards are standing in front of you yelling at you telling you what to do to pick up trash that was definitely the bottom no doubt about it nothing else even gets
Starting point is 02:43:08 close this is crater bottom here so january 24th 2009 he's all out of prison he's doing fine he marries that monique more lady she marries him uh she's a former flight attendant he said he has a newfound christianity oh boy. Praise the Lord. Pass the cocaine, motherfucker. I found Jesus in a prisoner's asshole. Baby. And he plans to open a Dwight Gooden Baseball Academy in northern New Jersey. Who's going to fucking go to that?
Starting point is 02:43:37 Maybe he can start with, he can almost field a team with his seven children. So he can start there. He has that. There's fluff pieces everywhere really all over the doc is good he's good now he's healthy so i've had my pitfalls i've had to accept them everything that's happened it's nobody's fault but my own he does all this shit you know i've cheated myself i should have won more games it should have been better to the fans my family my kids the whole thing i've got knocked down so many times and not
Starting point is 02:44:06 to not get the message but now i've got it yeah i am fucking good now i'm good now good now how did we not say that yet oh we've said it a lot actually good and now oh yeah good now i'm good now right so uh monica by the way monique is pregnant again. She's supposed to have a baby, another baby here. So she says that, quote, he's a totally different person now. We're starting a new life together. It's like he's starting over again, and I'm very happy for him. I really am. So September of 2009, that's all wonderful, but he still owes $300,000 in back alimony and child support to his first wife because that shit stacks while
Starting point is 02:44:45 you're in prison still they don't just stop that even though it was temporarily reduced to fifteen hundred dollars a month while he was in prison down from fifty nine hundred dollars a month but he owed a shitload before that so it's it's been a goddamn mess uh he says a lot of that stuff happened when i was incarcerated uh he says we're still talking about it and working on it and trying to work it out in court. Now, Monica's lawyer says that she's sympathetic to a situation and believes him to be a good and caring father in a lot of ways. So they release a half-decent statement. March 2010, his daughter Milan is born. March 23, 2010, he is pulled over.
Starting point is 02:45:27 yeah uh march 23rd 2010 he is pulled over uh basically he's driving taking his son to school at 8 50 in the morning while intoxicated and he rear ends a neighbor of his oh in a mercedes and uh 71 year old guy and the guy says quote i looked at him right away i'm an avid sports fan i said dwight gooden right he shook my hand and he shook and i shook his hand we introduced ourselves it was just two people out of the car just saying hi after the accident and uh and he called me he said what are you holding so uh good and told him that he was taking his son to school and then got back in the car and drove away uh officers responded to the 911 call that somebody had made and they stopped good and a half mile away and arrested him. Quote, he was arrested minutes later for driving under the influence with his five-year-old son unrestrained in the backseat.
Starting point is 02:46:13 He's charged with driving under the influence of a controlled substance, endangering the welfare of a child and several other things. Asshole. Complete asshole. Wow. He says his lawyer says that he was not intoxicated if anything it was an ambient hangover from the night before because he took it to sleep so he might have still been fuzzy but he wasn't on any drugs why are you driving after that and why isn't the kid in a seat belt put the fucking seat and get in a booster seat or something at five he uh he said i'm not out to
Starting point is 02:46:42 prove everybody wrong i'm just taking it day by day i'm clean and sober just trying to make good choices for me and my family uh you know how that goes ambient is not clean and sober dickhead no you're not allowed to take anything his i would say not in that situation his silver-haired middle-aged white man here and agent ronald goldstein said that he good and was not intoxicated he said all the facts have been distorted the media. He's a very good father and a very good friend. The amount of lies and untruths being spread hurts me personally. Shut up. What's the difference between a liar and an untruth?
Starting point is 02:47:13 Yeah, he said that Gooden was prescribed Ambien because his wife recently had a baby girl and he was sleep deprived. So, you know, he says, this is ridiculous. They're smearing my client. Quote, four years of hard work have been destroyed. It's just appalling. He pleads guilty to child endangerment charges and is sentenced to five years probation.
Starting point is 02:47:35 I mean, dude, if you're his fucking kids at this point, the one is in fucking jail. This one's, you know, he's driving women in the car. You got to feel bad for the, I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. But not nearly as bad as I feel. There's a lot of Dwight Goodens. They're hard to find.
Starting point is 02:47:52 Well, it's a common name, but the first 50 pages are all him. So I went another direction. I found Dr. Gooden. Doc Gooden. I found Dr. Charles M. Gooden, MD, a doctor primarily located in Fort Smith, Arkansas, has 24 years experience in general surgery. Doc Gooden, he has 4.56 stars out of 5 on vitals.com.
Starting point is 02:48:15 And someone said that their prayers and the doctor's faith helped her surgery, and she healed up just great. And now she's addicted to cocaine. Now she just likes Ambien. May 1st, 2010, Doc and his wife stop living together. You know, after all this shit. July 24th, 2010, Doc, it's in the paper. Monique is out here saying that Doc has abandoned her and his five-year-old son and four-month-old daughter she's living with her parents at that point she said quote he's left us with no money when i got
Starting point is 02:48:50 here to maryland i had to go apply for social services food stamps and health insurance for the kids he has afforded no financial assistance to us uh she said that goodens uh uh was basically that she said he was having a big relapse he was holed up in a hotel somewhere while that shit was going on. Yeah, she said it's a fucking mess. His downward spiral has really begun when he crashed into that other car. Things have gotten worse since then. He's been less responsible. He stopped paying bills and all that shit.
Starting point is 02:49:22 So this sounds like it's going down the path. Steinbrenner, at that point, dies. So he's not going to bail him out anymore. He's very upset. Doc said, George was like a second father for me. It's definitely been tough. So, yeah. 2010, in August, he's inducted into the Mets Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 02:49:42 Really? With Darryl Strawberry. So they came in together. On the same day? Yep. When he was up for the hall, he got like 3% of the vote, which is you're off the ballot if you get under five on the first one. That's pretty hysterical.
Starting point is 02:49:55 It's pretty fucking, yeah. Mets Hall of Fame. Yeah. They go to jail together. They come up together. They poke together. 2010, he said, is when he turned it all around. He said he was driving along and he
Starting point is 02:50:06 heard a gospel song and something about the lyrics inspired him to go to rehab yeah and he called friends that day arranged therapy and went to aa sessions 2011 he goes on celebrity rehab with dr drew lenny dykstra broke him out remember tries to break him out that whole we talked about on the dykstra episode which uh wow fucking leave him in there please june 4th 2013 his book comes out doc a memoir yeah so uh yeah uh he talks about all sorts of everything that's where that uh excerpt from about the sexual assault came from he talks about his medication and what he takes he says medication for recovery includes chats with a sponsor going to meetings and being in touch with members of his support group. He said, if I do today what I did yesterday, the chances of relapse are zero.
Starting point is 02:50:53 But if I was to choose to take a day off for my recovery, it's a 99.9% chance. I guess that's the best way I can explain it. So you have to be monitored or you're going to go do a shitload of cocaine. That doesn't say. He's good now.'s good he's fine march 1st 2013 monique gooden calls the bergen county police department and uh claims that dwight's making terroristic threats uh specifically claiming he said quote all bets are off and i will hurt you and your family you'll see just wait all bets are all bets are off i don't hurt you and your family. You'll see. Just wait. All bets are off. All bets are off. Wow.
Starting point is 02:51:26 I don't know what the fuck. I've never said that ever in my life in a threatening manner. All bets are off, bitch. Like, this is crazy. How angry you got to get to say, all bets are off. All bets are off. I'll hurt you and your family. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:51:40 Police arrived. They called a family court judge who got a temporary restraining order on the spot. Jesus Christ. He was living in the same home while they're going through separation and divorce. But the judge orders Dwight to get his shit and take off. He's not arrested or taken into custody because he didn't actually hit her. Let's just take him out of here. Yeah, it also strips him of his visitation of his two young children until the next court hearing, which is like a week away.
Starting point is 02:52:07 He also will decide whether to make the temporary restraining order permanent. And he's also ordered, though, in that meantime, do continue to make payments on the Range Rover and the insurance on the Range Rover for your wife. Oh, no. And make child support payments from previous court order. So, yeah. Jesus Christ, man. What a fucking mess. Pay for her Range Rover. Yep. So August
Starting point is 02:52:29 12, 2013, they're apparently now his wife and kids are evicted from their home. They are forced out here. They moved. This is the house they moved into in 2011. The good news is they've got a Range Rover. They have that to live in that's roomy this was a 4500 a month rental property and
Starting point is 02:52:50 they didn't pay rent for march april may or june and were booted out finally in august wow 2014 doc's 50 years old he made it to 50 this guy he said quote i never thought i would make it to 50 me neither so it's shocking me and i did the goddamn research uh he says that he's been clean and sober for three years he said i've been to rehabs i've been to counseling i've been to jail i've been in prison the only place i haven't been yet is the cemetery that would be my next stop yeah so very prescient i'm sure logical may 2016 fluff pieces abound again. Oh, God. Fluff piece in the Daily Mail UK. He said the last time he did cocaine, he said it was 2011.
Starting point is 02:53:31 He hasn't done it since then. He said, quote, now I'm taking care of myself. Because of all the drugs, I worry about my health. I get two physicals a year, and I always get nervous. But the last time I was there, the doctor said I had the liver and kidneys of a 28-year-old. The problem is he didn't say if it was a healthy 28 year old or one riddled with cocaine now august 2016 daryl strawberry and dwight are supposed to be uh supposed to be on a radio show together w wfan show okay uh it's in new york it's a sports radio station, and Doc doesn't show up. No? He just doesn't show up. So they asked Daryl, quote,
Starting point is 02:54:08 how worried about you are you about Doc and his future? And he took 25 seconds to respond to that. That's a long time in radio. On the radio? On the radio, that might as well be five years. That's five. People click on for three seconds and they're like, oh, they went off the air and they just shut it off.
Starting point is 02:54:24 If we stopped for 25 seconds, you would forget you were listening to a podcast when we came back. That's how long it would be. You'd be like, oh shit, yeah, these guys. They wondered what I was doing. He stared at him for 25 seconds and then spoke. Yeah, he said that he knew Gooden was in trouble. He said his wife, he says that, you know, I've done the same thing.
Starting point is 02:54:44 My wife has pulled me out of dope houses. And he said, my fear is that and I know addiction. And my fear is that people who don't change, they die. They die that way. I just hope the light comes on before it's too late. Then they asked another question. He says, Darrell says about Doc, quote, he's a complete junkie addict. I've been trying behind the scenes to talk to him and get him to go for help but he
Starting point is 02:55:06 won't listen this is when he's publicly saying how clean he is it took him 25 seconds to think about am i going rogue i'll do it i'm doing it he says he thinks he can manipulate and bs his way through everything his son called me to beg me to help his dad before he dies he said if no one speaks out about it he will be a tragedy. He will be an ESPN headline. He will be like Prince or Michael Jordan or Whitney Houston. He meant Michael Jackson. The only other person to make that mistake is the Iron Sheik, by the way.
Starting point is 02:55:38 The only other person I've ever heard to make that mistake. A lunatic. A lunatic. A genuine lunatic. In the midst of saying how he wanted to fuck someone in the ass to teach him a lesson. To make that mistake. A lunatic. A lunatic. A genuine lunatic. In the midst of saying how he wanted to fuck someone in the ass to teach him a lesson. To make them humble.
Starting point is 02:55:49 Yeah. He said that... Jill Strawberry is blowing up his spa. Oh, big time. Then he said that his ex-girlfriend, a woman named Janice, has also joined Strawberry on this quest, saying that this girlfriend
Starting point is 02:56:03 who he used to live, Gooden used to live with, said that Gooden had, quote, turned into a cocaine monster. Wow. So there's that. They all say they fear for his life. He's fucking, you know, all this shit. So he says he's fine. He goes on Joe Piscopo's radio show.
Starting point is 02:56:18 Jesus. Doc does. And he says, I'm healthy. I'm an addict. But that doesn't mean I'm an active addict. And he says, unfortunately, about Doc, it's about Strawberry. It's no friendship. Bad judgment on my part, I'm healthy. I'm an addict, but that doesn't mean I'm an active addict. And he says, unfortunately, about Doc, it's about strawberry. It's no friendship. Bad judgment on my part, thinking I was.
Starting point is 02:56:29 It was. So he's mad at 30 years of being a friend. And he tries to go. He gave you tough love, Doc. That's what it is. Then he says, I've always been supportive of straw during his best and worst days. I recall the times he was in prison and I was there for him. I recall the times he struggled with his own addiction and i was there for him too i've never
Starting point is 02:56:48 failed to be there for daryl strawberry i don't do cocaine and i have him for years fuck daryl strawberry they are gonna go with the train his wife's gotten fat that's right i fucking said it you're gonna trade barbs in the media now this is great now the family yeah sides with strawberry they thank him really his son dwight gooden jr it was now out of prison apparently gangster who cares what he's got to say he put out a statement thanking daryl strawberry and others who voiced concerns he says quote his problems have been well documented and publicized at this time our only concern is his health and that he takes care of himself. So some time goes by, a couple years. May 14th, 2019, big old fluff piece.
Starting point is 02:57:31 Big old fluff piece, because he actually did something good that deserved a fluff piece. He went to the Hackensack University Medical Center's Pediatric Cancer Unit, and he said he wanted to care for the. Yeah. He said he almost didn't show up that day because it was snowing.
Starting point is 02:57:48 And he said, who am I to make the excuse when these kids are battling for their lives every single day? Hooked up to these machines, not knowing if they're going to make it the next hour. So he's a good guy, right? Like five other kids you should be seeing. He's good now. Right. Yeah. June 7th, 2019, 1 a.m.
Starting point is 02:58:07 Not great. He's not at the pediatric center? No, he's in Holmdel, New Jersey. He's pulled over just before 1 a.m. He was stopped for failing to maintain a lane, driving too slowly, and having overly tinted windows. And when they took him out of the car he had a he had two ziploc baggies containing cocaine yeah so uh yes god damn he faces five years in prison in charge of possession of a controlled substance which is a felony
Starting point is 02:58:36 and drug paraphernalia also and driving while intoxicated because he's coked up as well straight junkie addict sounds like it uh silver-haired middle-aged white man lawyer william petrillo he says quote mr gooden is a kind man with a generous heart who continually volunteers his time doing charitable work he's loved by many and has had the full support of family and friends we ask the public to reserve judgment and have no further comment on this time how long can you reserve judgment 35 years we're fucking judging now it's been 35 years i've reserved plenty of judgment jesus i loved him he was one of my favorites i loved him too july 13 2019 dwight jr's talking shit now he's fucking throwing some shade on
Starting point is 02:59:19 old senior oh fuck yeah they knocked on his door and asked him some questions. And he's out there standing on his front stoop. I have the picture. And he said it was disappointing. He said about the whole thing. He says it's an unfortunate situation. He called it very disappointing. And then the son said this. This is amazing.
Starting point is 02:59:37 Quote, I'm not him. I don't live that life. Never did. Actually, you definitely did. Slow down, Junior. Slow your roll junior you can say i've gotten my shit together yeah my life is better now walk that one back never did you did time together stupid um i've got my own children i don't know what to say so basically he's like i
Starting point is 02:59:57 can't even deal with this i got my own fucking problem i got i got a mortgage i can't deal with this shit uh never did i mean, I got my own kids. Who hasn't been arrested for selling crack? Let's be honest. I mean, everybody here, right? How else did you put yourself through journalism school? Who's got 44 caliber bullets in their pockets? Not me.
Starting point is 03:00:16 Who doesn't? July 23rd, 2019, Gooden is driving his 2012 Chrysler in the wrong direction down a one-way street at 11 10 p.m on a monday night it's a 300 it's perhaps maybe that or one of those i don't know is it a little let's hope it's a two thousand probably didn't make them in 2012 jesus to sebring so uh yeah he uh is arrested for dwi again in july it's his second arrest in two months this is this year he said i'd like to thank thank everyone for their support in this horrible struggle my apologies to everyone i let down or disappointed i deserve everything that's being written or talked about me yeah that's what he says he says i have no excuses for my action so
Starting point is 03:01:01 i'm going away for a while to try and save my life. I really don't know who I am right now, and I definitely don't trust myself. This is the worst I've ever been through all my struggles, but I am going to keep fighting no matter how embarrassing, shameful, or selfish I am feeling. Basically, I'm going away tonight to try to get some help to save my life. I'll be checking in tonight, whatever it takes. I never thought I'd see myself at 54 going back to treatment first time was at 21 but you know yeah at that point he also spoke to daryl strawberry for over two hours and uh they made up and uh that uh he said that uh gooden said that basically that uh you know it's always been a little personal with them back and forth.
Starting point is 03:01:45 He says, about four months ago, for some crazy reason, this is Dwight, I stopped taking all my medication. I wasn't going to meetings. I wasn't talking to anybody. So he's just like, I just started doing coke again. I don't know. And the Newark Public Safety Director here says it's sad to see the continued problems of this former met star but it's an example how persistent scourge of drugs and alcohol in this country and the stranglehold hold they have on addicts he's the worst he's ever been remember when he sold a car for a thousand
Starting point is 03:02:14 dollars this is worse this is worse he just doesn't have millions anymore he's gonna die oh yeah he's fucking up september 6 2019 last month uh he he makes a plea deal that he can avoid jail time for this whole thing. He's going to plea to a lesser charge of third-degree possession and will be told he will not have to go to jail if he completes a drug rehab program. The Yankees, manager Aaron Boone at the time, said, we've all probably been touched by this. It hurts your heart to see it. A guy who's beloved too. This is a guy that everyone you come across has a relationship with. With him, always has good things to say about
Starting point is 03:02:50 Doc and understands the demons he's facing. He's just a fuck up. He says, now his silver-haired middle-aged white man, William Petrillo said, Dwight is doing phenomenal and we're confident he will continue to do so. He's extremely grateful for the continued outpouring of love and support he has received
Starting point is 03:03:05 from family, friends, and many professional athletes. He is good now, everybody. For right now. But next month, it could be different. I had to keep checking Google here. Celebrity net worth, which we know is not accurate at all, has a net worth of $200,000 for him, which who knows. What?
Starting point is 03:03:22 I don't know if that's true, but I hope not. That means he's got 40 bucks, man. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. $36 million. Based on their algorithm. So can't get enough of Doc Gooden? My God. You can follow him on Twitter, at DocGooden16.
Starting point is 03:03:34 He has 69,500 followers, follows 457 people. Go to Amazon.com, get Doc, a memoir. It's 1357 hardcover, 1010.99 paperback, $14.69 audio. And finally, on eBay, you can get a 1988 starting lineup Doc Gooden in the box, mint, $12.95 free shipping. Can't buy it because I fucking bought it when I found it. Fuck yeah. I found it, started typing, and I'm like, I want this. Why don't I just buy this?
Starting point is 03:04:03 So I bought it. So you can't have that one, but you can get the other two, because that one's going to be here this week. So that said, that's Doc Gooden, everybody. Hope you enjoyed Doc Gooden. My God. Sorry it was so much info. I hope you do enjoy him, because he's not going to make it to 60.
Starting point is 03:04:20 Yeah, that was- That man's going to die. It's over for him. He's a fucking mess. That sucks, man. He can't go more than three, four years without having a major incident. That is fucked up. make it to 60 yeah that was that man's gonna die i don't doubt it he's a fucking mess he sucks man he can't go more than three four years without having a major incident he just really loves his cocaine he loves it that's the thing he really enjoys it he loves it but that is doc good and that is crime and sports if you enjoyed that please let us know get on apple podcast that
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Starting point is 03:10:14 Hey. Sarah Hughes, Stephanie Bush, Desiree Norman, Chris Reber, Rachel or Rochelle Ridge, Homestretch, Denise Felcy, or Felcy, Long On Nguyen, I can't do that. I'm terrible. An H is the middle name.
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Starting point is 03:10:58 doc brings the heat this one is one of those ones where i've been avoiding for a long time because i just knew how much work it was gonna fucking be 35 years of it but it was one of those ones where I've been avoiding for a long time because I just knew how much work it was going to fucking be. 35 years of it. But it was one of those things where I knew we had a week off. I'm like, let's give them one of the biggies, man. Let's throw down and give them one of the good ones. So thank you so much. What if somebody wanted to thank you, Jimmy?
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