Crime in Sports - #204 - Handcuffs & Wedding Rings - The Domesticatedness of Jerramy Stevens & Hope Solo

Episode Date: April 14, 2020

This week, we take a look at a guy whoo seems to have been getting arrested since birth. From high school, and beyond, he developed a pattern of having no regard for rules, the law, or other ...human beings, then having people get him out of trouble. He continues this pattern, until he meets his future wife, soccer star, Hope Solo. She seems to fit right into his lifestyle, as they end up entangled with police, as a couple, on more than one occasion, in addition to having her own problems with the law! This is a 2 for 1 episode & it's wall to wall crime & mess!! Send people nasty emails after they have sex with you, never listen to authority, and go right from jail to your wedding with Jerramy Stevens & Hope Solo!! Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!! Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsportscrimeinsports@gmail.comfacebook.com/Crimeinsportsinstagram.com/smalltownmurder  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:43 Shut up and give me murder. Get your tickets. Blah, blah, blah. Let's get right into it. What do you say good boom let's do this okay we have a wild thing we never did this before this is a couple no we're gonna they're gonna we're gonna do an episode they're so they belong together so much that we're gonna do an episode of crime and sports together with them so isn't it nice yeah let's start out with we're gonna concentrate on one of them more than the other because he's way more of a fucking disaster. So we're going to get right on him. Let's talk about Jeremy Stevens. You know who he is?
Starting point is 00:02:11 No. He's a tight end for the Seahawks and Buccaneers in the 2000s. Really? About 10, 11 years. Yeah. Did he? So he quit. He's retired now.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah, he's retired now. But he played in the Super Bowl and all that shit. He was their starting receiver for a long time here. Super Bowl for, obviously, for the Seahawks. For the Seahawks. Yeah, yeah's retired now. He played in the Super Bowl and all that shit. He was their starting receiver for a long time here. Super Wolfer, obviously, for the Seahawks. For the Seahawks. Yeah, yeah. So let's get into it. Jeremy Ryan Stevens.
Starting point is 00:02:30 He spells his name like an asshole, too. Not really his fault, I guess. No, God, no. No, not the last name. Jeremy is J-E-R-R-A-M-Y. That's not Jeremy. Which I rarely see that spelling. It's very rare.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Like, if you put it into something it always auto-corrects it i'm like god damn it i can't tell you how the number of times i fought auto-correct during this episode looking shit up no he spells it like an asshole i'm typing it can you type in asshole jeremy and it shows up there he is spells name like an asshole jeremy. There he is. Jeremy. Jeremy. Born November 12th, 1979. Here. I'm sorry. November 13th. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:10 November 12th. He, first of all, I got to say, there's a lot of information here on one particular thing that came from a great article in the Seattle Times by two people named Nick Perry and Ken Armstrong. So I got to give them credit because they had details that were really good. Or bad, but good for us. For our purposes, good. Bad for Jaramie.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Bad for Jaramie, bad for society in general, the details that happen. But yeah, so Jeremy here was born in Boise, Idaho. His dad's black, his mom's white. Okay. So he's half black and half white baby he's a beige baby he's one of four kids so he's gotten siblings and everything like that his mom's name is fran she was a school administrator and also and then she was a police officer for a while as well so yeah so and his father was a teacher and a high school sports
Starting point is 00:04:02 coach so the family is very much together there's no this isn't your this isn't your dirt floor okay you know horrible uh you know dad dad drank like four fifths of jack daniels a day and tried to set the house on fire and you know that sort of shit none of that stuff's happening like you normally get that's what i don't understand here it's i think i think his family might be mormon because later on a mormon bishop is there to like okay give a word for him which i don't know i don't know if they vouch for why would they know him that's what i mean i don't know any mormon bishops personally like if i needed one to vouch for me i'd be in deep shit so that's
Starting point is 00:04:40 what i mean like you have to probably be morm Mormon to get that. I'm imagining, uh, he grows up in Lacey, Washington. The family moves to Washington and high school. He is a star athlete in all, in all aspects. He ends up being six foot seven, 250 pounds and he's athletic.
Starting point is 00:04:58 So obviously he's just, he's built for every sport ever basically to be an athletic giant person like that. He letters in football, basketball, and track, which all makes sense here. He's a quarterback in football. Really? Yeah. In the NFL, he's going to be a tight end. But in high school, he's a star quarterback at River Ridge High in Lacey.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Sounds like it. Sounds like Washington, doesn't it? River Ridge. Yeah, or Idaho. Either one. Lots of rivers and doesn't it? River Ridge. Yeah, or Idaho. Either one. Lots of rivers and lots of ridges up there. Lots of rivers, lots of ridges of rivers. Lots of shit like that happening here.
Starting point is 00:05:33 So, yeah, he plays quarterback. He threw for 5,000 yards total in high school. He threw for 2,000 yards as a junior, which is pretty good in high school. Does he have the record? I don't think there's any kind of that. It doesn't say anyway. I don't have any. They might keep track of that somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I don't have any like 3A Washington high school sports records in front of me. I'll look for them, but I don't know. Not even for the school. Probably for the school. Maybe. I'm sure. I don't know anybody else really. That's a 5,000 yards.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Coming out of there. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what their offense was like, too. If this guy's a quarterback and he's 6'7",'s huge i think you're probably also gonna do a lot of i don't know if they're running option or something run a lot with the ball run people over i don't know they probably dominated all over the place i would think so as a senior he was first team all narrows league which i assume was the high school division they were in. And he was named to the Olympian All-Area Team. That's the Olympia Washington All-Area Team as a safety
Starting point is 00:06:32 because he also played safety in high school as well. No, he played both. In high school, if you're good, you're going both ways. Yeah, but a 6'7 safety as a wide receiver, 5'9, you should be fucking terrified. That's why he's athletic. That's what I mean. A guy who can play safety and is that big, that's a wide receiver it's that's five foot nine you should be fucking terrified that's why he's a he's athletic that's what i mean a guy who can play safety and is that big that's scary yeah because that guy's sitting back on you catch a ball he's gonna come up and drill you i'm gonna cross the middle you're in you're in 11th grade that's just not fair jesus christ you got a grown adult that's about to blast you no everybody you know the receiver's over the
Starting point is 00:07:03 middle everybody hands down. Well, it was over my head. I don't know. I couldn't get it. Picked off. Where are you throwing it, dickhead? Couldn't see it. It hit you in the face mask, asshole.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Did you see the size of that fucking guy? I didn't. I don't know. I couldn't see the ball. I could just hear footsteps coming at me. Real loud. I heard his feet sinking in the turf. I saw somebody's water move like in Jurassic Park, and I freaked out.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Sorry. Water ripples. The ripples. Gatorade cup. Oh, no. It's time. So he ends up getting his scholarship to Washington, the Huskies. Up in Washington.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Right. Washington State. State was the word I was looking for that I can't come up with. State? Really? That's what I'm stuck on? I think you are, maybe. Up there, Washington,
Starting point is 00:07:50 you know, up in that place over there. The fucking region. They got borders, and I think they probably got their own government. I don't fucking know. Just below it's another one. People pay taxes to it, I assume. What is it called?
Starting point is 00:08:02 One of those things. So, June 1998 up he's in washington in 98 he goes there uh june 1998 let's get right into the uh right into the crime here we are seven minutes into this episode he's 19 years old we're already oh yeah he's 18 i think we're already getting into it now he just turned maybe not he's not 19 quite yet he's 18 here uh he's arrested here uh there's a pre-arranged fight it's a rumble yeah this we're talking here i'll be there yeah it's a pre-arranged rumble somebody agreed to be somewhere where he was going to be him groups of people apparently oh my god groups of high school kids yeah were converging to have a rumble which i mean
Starting point is 00:08:42 that happens this group doesn't like that group they're going to get together they're going to fight here it's uh spring of 98 so this was right out right at the end of his senior year of high school this is while he had his scholarship you know in the works and all that sort of thing apparently there was a pre-arranged fight in the park uh he and his friend apparently beat the shit out of a few people. Specifically, a man named James Hoover, who was a child at the time, 17 years old, who was hitting the heads with a baseball bat. Oh, sweet Christ. There is different, it's basically disputed whether or not it was
Starting point is 00:09:16 Jeremy's friend or Jeremy that hit him with a baseball bat. It's been said both ways. But it's undisputed that after the man, after James Hoover fell down from being hit in the head with a baseball bat unconscious uh jeremy stomped up and down on his face a shitload of times what an asshole so that's undisputed though his giant ass stomping on an unconscious head causing more brain damage thanks jeremy unreal good fucking guy skull fractures well brain swelling jaw was broken uh swelling and
Starting point is 00:09:46 all that sort of thing and uh for six weeks he had to eat with a straw and all that shit from the broken jaw hard shot yeah he had to be you know all that shit here um not not terrific not a good outcome for this guy and the when the sheriff's detective questioned jeremy jeremy said he didn't even have he wasn't even. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, I don't know. Fight? What fight? I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:10:08 It was a Bible study. Yeah. I was reading scripture. Unbelievable. A Mormon, I think. I'm not sure. You don't believe me? Call a bishop.
Starting point is 00:10:19 There's a bishop that'll vouch for me, but I'm not positive if I'm Mormon. James, Jimmy, am I Mormon? I don't know either so not sure i checked with them and they they usually know this sort of thing but i don't know so yeah he he said uh yeah i'm not involved at all and then that went a day and the next day they came back with i don't know like 50 people saw you there so we people everyone saw you doing it so then he said okay i was there and i stomped on the guy's head right we know because there's a size 14 print on the side of his fucking face not many people have that right what you're doing the logo of k-swiss is bigger
Starting point is 00:10:55 than everybody else's shoe it's right on his forehead right on the forehead uh so they asked him why july asshole and he said quote i knew I had done something wrong and I didn't want to get in trouble for it. Well, yeah, we knew that that was the reason we just needed you to say that. Yeah, that's if you ask a six year old why they lied. They'd say, I didn't want you to be mad at me and get in trouble. That's what that would be their explanation for it. It's the same explanation. I didn't want to get in trouble for it.
Starting point is 00:11:25 So clearly he's the maturity maturity isn't his top thing. He hasn't thought about, well, assaulting someone horribly is an adult thing, an adult crime. No, he's still like, I don't know. I'm sorry I took the cookies. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's the most frustrating fucking three words on earth
Starting point is 00:11:46 not to give bill cosby credit but that that bit he has about the i don't know he's fucking genius it really is and then as a parent that's the you know it's coming anytime you go why just leave off the part where after he leaves there he goes and drugs and rapes young women just leave that part off and it's still a charming bit. He got a paycheck, and he left and bought Spanish plywood. Yeah, that's all. You know what? If you think Bill Cosby's funny, what he did shouldn't bother that.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Same thing with Michael Jackson. People want to ban Michael. What the fuck does Billie Jean have to do with this kid staring at some kid's butthole? Nothing. They're separate entities. Am I wrong? They're separate entities. Am I wrong? They're separate things. Except for the part he's saying
Starting point is 00:12:28 that he was going to make a change and he sure in the fuck did. He didn't make a change. Oh boy. Boy, he should have. He should have been looking at the butthole in the mirror instead of trying to make a change
Starting point is 00:12:41 to make that satisfy him and it just doesn't work. Musicians are entirely different. It's just specific things. It's case by case, I think. Because R. Kelly's a fucking monster, and every song he sang was about him being a monster. Lots of musicians are monsters. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:55 It's one of those things. We separate the work. It's not like we have to look at them. Yeah, you got a point. You can just hear a song. But R. Kelly's lyrics are just a manifesto of of like, I'm going to fuck kids some more. No, it's true. I'm going to fuck a young girl tonight.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Going to put it right in her mouth really tight. That's the whole song. Every time. Yeah, you're right. It's the Dave Chappelle, I want to pee on you. Literally, he's like, fuck it. That's what it is. No, it's true.
Starting point is 00:13:22 They won't even believe what I'm going to put all this shit in there. Nobody's going to believe it. That's what he is. No, it's true. They won't even believe what I'm going to put all this shit in there. Nobody's going to believe it. That's what he did. Yeah. It's different for like if it's like an actor and then you have to look at the actor on stage, on screen. You're like, look at this fucking idiot. I know what you did, asshole.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Like, it's hard to you watch Ferris Bueller. It's hard to laugh at Jeffrey Jones knowing he's a pedophile. You know, like that guy did bad things and he looks like he did bad things. And he's the dean of a school. And he's the principal. That's gross. It's really gross. And when he talks to Sloan, you're like, ooh, don't talk to her like that.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You know what I mean? Or, but he hates Ferris. He doesn't want to fuck Ferris, but I feel like he really has it in for Sloan. He'd like to get rid of Ferris so that he can fuck his girlfriend. So he can fuck his girlfriend. But he only wishes it was three years ago. That's the only difference. If only it was three years ago.
Starting point is 00:14:04 He's a bit old now. ago so sexy whereas music's different music i just my opinion when a song when like you like a song and shit like that like music belongs to you music belongs to whatever moment that that is in your head because if you hear a song it always brings you to whatever time place you've got a memory of that song yeah it's not necessarily his memory that's what i mean it belongs you don't even know what the song's about right i ten of your favorite songs what is it about you're probably wrong on nine of them you have no fucking idea what songs are about because most of them aren't about anything they just sit down and take a shit on the toilet for four minutes write some shit on a napkin and then make money off it for 40 years. Fucking musicians. That's true.
Starting point is 00:14:45 As a comedian, I'm a little bitter. If one person sees your joke on a screen one time, gone! Yeah, it's over. Can't perform it ever again. What you dare. You get a song, you can perform it when you're 75 from a fucking wheelchair
Starting point is 00:14:59 and people will still give you money for it. Matter of fact, if they don't, they'll try to tip that wheelchair over in punishment. God, how dare you not play that? As Jay Giles gets tipped over in his chair. You know what I mean? Like, you can make royalties forever. It's fucking ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:15:18 If the Stones don't start me up in a show, they will fucking riot. Yeah. Comedy, not only is it gone and not worth a goddamn thing but then someone else could just take it and use it you can't even fucking do anything about it that's the other thing in music if that's more similar than 30 hear that beat i want 12 million dollars the bing bing bing people tell exact fucking jokes of other people fine no hey great minds great minds man that's what they'll say. Great minds. Think alike. That's what happens.
Starting point is 00:15:48 That's what happens in music, too. I guess fucking Alan Thicke's kid thought just like fucking Marvin Gaye, I guess. That's wild. He thought just like him. Great minds. Great minds. Weird, right? Alan Thicke's kid is a great mind. Fucking unreal. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:16:03 That's how ridiculous it is. I don't know where the hell we went there i don't know nothing to do we're so far off i don't even know who michael jackson and his butthole staring i think the butthole that's the thing once you bring up a butthole it's everything goes off the rail once the butthole's in play you can't count on anything so uh oh because he was a child. Yeah, that's right. He didn't want to get in trouble for it.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Yeah. So he's charged with felony assault for this. Of course. Because this was a serious assault. Because that's a felony assault. This wasn't two kids scrapping. No. This is a violent assault.
Starting point is 00:16:37 So a judge, though, lets him out on bail, but he has to be at home with an electronic monitoring device. So they give him a bracelet here. Dead serious. lock up style or 90 dark love after lock up style yeah fucking on the tether here it is on the tether i'm on the tether if i had to listen to that i'm so glad that they are out of the next season because i can't michael that fucking guy oh he'll be back oh he drives me nuts he'll be back i'm so done with him he got another lady too oh my god michael gonna bring somebody else in this picture oh yeah god damn it and it's a it's a maria so he's got this motherfucker he's like i can't decide what kind of girls i like
Starting point is 00:17:16 which i think is amazing like he has no type he has a blonde yeah he has a blonde white girl he has a black girl from the south. And he has a girl with a Spanish accent named Maria from Miami. I'm like, what is happening with this guy? He has no discernible touch. You know what he likes, James? He'll find me an Asian. Pussy.
Starting point is 00:17:35 That's what he likes. He doesn't care. He'll find me an Asian. That's what he's doing right now. He's like, I've got to complete this collection. I got it all right now. I'm so tired of him and his fuck yeah i'm on the tether this is a that's a love after lockup thing here great show it is great you shouldn't think we had did a whole bonus episode about it so uh oh by the way speaking of bonus episodes
Starting point is 00:17:57 quickly this week's bonus episode i do want to say that patreon subscribers patreon.com slash crime and sports at the $5 and above level is Ken Patera, the crazy wrestler. And it's a fucking amazing, funny story. So we'll tell you all about that. Back to this, though. So this kid has been beaten. Jeremy's on house arrest here.
Starting point is 00:18:17 He eventually will plead guilty to fourth degree assault to a misdemeanor charge. That's the plea deal here uh prosecutors determined that he had not acted as an accomplice of his friend who was convicted of of assault for the bat charge they said somehow he wasn't an accomplice even though they were together so they separated fighting on the same side in a rumble that's an accomplice that's i don't know if you're fighting together yeah i don't know and you one guy hits the guy and falls down then you jump on his face right that's tag team and and you showed up together that's like going into a jewelry store and robbing it and being like i don't know this guy was just here too it was wild yeah weird right
Starting point is 00:18:59 both chose to rob we said fuck it split the take cool and then we just walked out together at that point you're together even but if you showed up together you're really together it's like a tag team but you like get him i hit him with the bat you stomp on his face so uh yeah it's a first though the felony charge made uh made it so uh the the university was calling into question the scholarship but then three university of washington coaches wrote the judge saying that you know if you give him a break he's going to be in college and we're going to we'll straighten him right out don't you worry about that our offer is still good and we believe in this kid did they all enclose silver locks of hair oh i think
Starting point is 00:19:38 they did silver yeah they're jeremy stevens is he is just propped up on a golden cloud by a silver man at all times there is always a silver haired middle aged white man there to help someone who's six foot seven two hundred fifty pounds it's amazing it's amazing just like I just feel like he's a good kid right he's just so fast and big he's just gotta be a good kid
Starting point is 00:20:00 be over six five and athletic and you're going to have a fine life it's gonna be easier for you everyone's gonna find a way to make it so it's not your fault right wasn't an accomplice i mean you know he showed up he saw a man on the ground he said i don't like that guy either i met him before and then he stopped on his face it makes sense i can buy that so uh they they said in their background checks on on j it showed, quote, nothing but high marks. He's a fantastic young man.
Starting point is 00:20:29 By the way, there's not nothing but high marks. There's all sorts of shit he did in high school we'll talk about in a little bit here in a certain time here. So one of them, Scott Linehan, who was the coach of the St. Louis Rams for a while, he said, quote, We believe this to be an isolated incident. Under our discipline and supervision, I believe Jeremy will show this to be true. Wow. He's good now.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I need that player. How silver is that statement? Listen, we believe he's good now. He didn't even have to say it himself. He had people say it for him. But he's such a good kid that over that summer, he violates his house arrest by testing positive for marijuana oh what an asshole yeah don't smoke weed this summer stupid you're getting
Starting point is 00:21:11 tested you're on you're on the tether motherfucker stop smoking weed what are you doing god damn it so he's sent to jail for three weeks i could see that you fucking idiot yeah he deserves it three weeks three weeks because that's all that's left. Yeah, that was it. So three weeks there. The University of Washington's head coach wrote, quote, We do believe in Jeremy. After that, even he said, We do. So the coaches even asked the judge, wrote him a letter saying, Maybe you could release him from home confinement so he can practice with the team before his trial. Is that cool?
Starting point is 00:21:42 Can you do that? The judge went, Okay, sure who you think you're silver well guess what motherfucker this gavel makes me the silverest cat in town you may want to be more silver but i can make it happen holy shit are you kidding me no problem what a gift yeah so uh even though this was after the marijuana violation even though he had already violated court orders were like let's let him do it so he went to football camp and uh where this one of his coaches said quote we don't give up on a player because he makes one mistake how about two or three or four have we mentioned he's really big and fast because we don't give up on six foot seven 250 pound people when they make
Starting point is 00:22:25 you can fill in the number because any any amount of mistakes pretty much so uh the uh but in the report to the judge also a thurston county sheriff's captain wrote that he thought that stevens may have quote a propensity toward violence and we'll find out a little more about that football suit in a little while yeah he. Well, in high school, in this report, because the sheriff knew of all these different reports, apparently the college didn't look too deep into it. No. They found nothing but high marks. So, I mean, who cares?
Starting point is 00:22:55 Fuck. See, teachers don't usually hold on to arrest records. That's the thing. Yeah, you find the guys that hold those. Yeah. Well, another, apparently, in one of his classes, he got mad at a teacher, and he and another student punched holes in the classroom wall, which was interesting. That's an odd reaction. No, my class, my school was a shithole.
Starting point is 00:23:16 It all blocked walls, so good luck with that. It's going to take a while. My left eyebrow scar is from one of those blocked walls. Trust me, they don't fucking move, because I had a concussion for like three days. So he was punching holes in the wall. The report said, quote, we are told the school learned of the vandalism and quietly permitted payment of the damage. They were like, he didn't even get in trouble for it. He just had his parents paid it back and it was fine.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Spackle it up. Spackle it on up. Break out the spackle, everybody. back and it was fine. Spackle it up. Spackle it on up. Break out the spackle, everybody. So the sheriff's office heard that he had violated school rules, team rules on alcohol and marijuana.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Also, he kicked a football teammate in the testicles hard enough to send him to the hospital. Wow, that's a kick hard. Well, maybe he was trying out for a place kicker. You never know. Maybe he said, we don't have a ball. Here, watch this. If I can send him to the hospital, I get to start next week.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Right, coach? You said kick the ball, coach. You did not say which one. I got two of them. I did one better. I think I went above and beyond. Did you one better, coach? Sorry.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Don't ever say I'm not a lack of effort guy. I'm an effort guy. That's what it is. I'm a starter, coach. That's my problem. Yeah. Then one day in a basketball game, he was ejected for being too aggressive. So he physically threatened the referees in the high school basketball game, which you can't do that in high school.
Starting point is 00:24:33 You can't. You just don't argue with the refs in high school. You just do it. Even though they're. Did he murder several people? Because he is on track. He's like Aaron Hernandez things already. Oh, he absolutely.
Starting point is 00:24:44 There is a definite parallel here to Aaronaron hernandez as far as attitude and behavior and the only difference is i think uh who he's around in his upbringing and shit are way different so that's the difference i think he if he if he had any sort of slip in his childhood where you know weird stuff would have happened dad left like you know aaron hernandez stuff sure uh this could have gone way fucking worse and it's bad as we'll talk about it gets mom steals his cousin's husband yeah that should happen that's crazy that's what ends up yeah that's gonna fucking kid up a little bit i would say so while the assault charge was pending though uh several of his teachers and and also that's this is when the morsh mormon bishop comes into play and a mormon bishop like a high-ranking mormon bishop in the area all wrote to the prosecutor
Starting point is 00:25:31 urging leniency this guy had every powerful entity possible yeah i mean in the prosecutors this is an elected position so if you're you have all of these groups that have power around you, pressuring you, that causes you to fucking not do things the same way. That you'll take a low plea. Not do your job. Not do your job. Well, I mean, if the university is against you, that's not great. And then also on top of that, the Mormon, these are powerful people who can make things difficult for you. So they urge leniency.
Starting point is 00:26:03 An English teacher described how stevens once defended a kid with a speech impediment oh that's nice and uh she said quote he has a gentle side as well so did he give him that speech impediment though that was the problem he felt bad it was after he stomped on his head knocked his iq down about 40 points kid couldn't talk right either so hard uh speech impediment but then he just defended him so he's a nice kid so uh yeah this is the uh so like i said he eventually pled to misdemeanor fourth degree assault charge and then he gets to the university of washington and man it's a different jeremy now i'm good now he says that he is gonna put it all behind him yeah he's done he's more mature now
Starting point is 00:26:46 sure he says quote i'm more conscious of the choices i make now because i know there are consequences it's true like none like none what consequences for other people for other people yeah there's you know you can get hit with a baseball bat and stomped on the ground so he's uh yeah i don't think he learned too much. Let's find out if he learned. I can't wait. I think he learned his lesson, Jimmy. What do you think? Is he your kind of guy?
Starting point is 00:27:10 Is he your kind of guy, Jimmy? The church is speaking for him, James. You know what? If there's a Mormon bishop on your side, I say it's got to be true. He's changed. That's the way it works. So 1999 comes around. He's playing football this year for Washington, playing for the Huskies, the Huskies this year.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And we're not going to go over. There's not a lot of time for sports in this one. So we're going to very briefly breeze over sports shit and get right to the mass amounts of crazy criminal weirdness. There's some weird shit goes on here. And like I said, this is a couple's thing. He's going to get married to an athlete and they're going to have they're going to get arrested together which is wonderful so if you can get arrested together you can really do anything together i feel like right can't you yeah so 1999 for washington they go seven and five under coach rick new heisel they had uh marcus tuyasa sopu back then oh yeah guys like that and it was a you
Starting point is 00:28:00 know decent team i guess seven and five though no ball game no no balls or anything spectacular uh the for him though he plays in all 11 games 21 receptions 265 yards four touchdowns from the tight end all 11 games not bad it depends on the team got it so uh yeah i think they played 11 that year probably seven and five so they played 12 so yeah he missed a game yeah my bad uh it's at this point where he meets his future wife and our and also the the partial subject of our show here hope solo really yes hope solo and we don't have time to go over her career because it's massive yeah her she is so accomplished she really is everything like we would spend the whole time talking about all the different soccer accomplishments and she's on dancing with the stars and written books and she has i don't know she endorses like a hundred
Starting point is 00:28:48 products like mainstream big time products and uh you can name maybe uh 12 female soccer players in history for like yeah yeah for like as a normal person i'm sure there's huge fans of female soccer then three probably yeah i maybe i got got her. I got Hope Solo. That's it. There's that one. And then there's that blonde mouthy one. Yeah. Yeah. Good for her.
Starting point is 00:29:11 She does a great thing. I don't know. I don't remember her name either. No. And there's a chick that took her shirt off when they won the time. That girl.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Right. And she slid on her knees and took her shirt off. That's all. That girl. She was good. Sorry, female soccer. It's not, everybody. That girl. She was good. Sorry, female soccer. It's not your fault.
Starting point is 00:29:28 No, it's not. You guys are doing awesome, and we don't know shit about it. And there's really great ones. Yeah, there are people that pay attention. It's just not us. We're not the guys. But the point is, if you're going to make noise and be a great player, for the mainstream to know your name, you have to be Hope Solo.
Starting point is 00:29:44 You have to be unbelievably accomplished. And you have to be the goalie for like 15 years and on several Olympics and national things. There's probably women that play for the, I guarantee there are, that have played for like five years on that team and are unbelievable. And I have no fucking clue who they are. That's the thing. And it's fucked up. And it's annoying. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:04 So during this time, she went to the university of washington played on the soccer team from 99 to 2003 so this is the same time he's there they meet at this point become friends and everything like that grace that's it that's it i can't call grace after any time after this and you'll see why in a moment man has convictions already he's already got convictions best of his life but he met hope solo that's pretty good he met a future famous uh you know woman here so uh okay so summer of 2000 comes around yeah oh boy oh boy oh boy um he gets arrested for uh suspicion of rape of of of a young lady who we'll talk about here not of hope so okay that would
Starting point is 00:30:46 be a really bad be a huge story not that it should be anymore but if you know i don't know it would be saying it should be but it would be it would be a bigger story so uh yeah he's arrested for an investigation of sexual assault um he's taken into custody at 7 a.m by the SWAT team they come to his house oh shit and they say that that's just because that's a standard warrant serving thing um to bring the SWAT team I guess when someone's six seven 250 pounds they probably said why don't we bring the other guys bring some plexiglass shields let's do that knock on the door and hope he's good hope he's cool with it is that work is that the plan fuck that what if he's not can we just take a tank let's do that yeah so it was a six member swat team so at least they didn't bring them didn't bring everybody they brought the the core team here that's enough uh he offered
Starting point is 00:31:33 no resistance um which is good i guess now uh that's 7 a.m by 1 30 p.m a fax arrives already at the seattle police Department sexual assault unit addressed to the lead detective who had been investigating this case for seven weeks going back and then they're making this arrest. The fax is coming from Jeremy's lawyer here. And this guy, you want to talk silver-haired middle-aged white man. This is as silver as it comes. He has silver hair. He dresses in all silver. He drives a silver car. talk silver haired middle-aged white man this is as silver as it comes he's earned he's he he has
Starting point is 00:32:06 silver hair he dresses in all silver he drives a silver car lives in a silver house while wearing silver jewelry this man is fucking his horse's name is silver he's it's ridiculous how silver this man is this is mike hunziger he is a an alumnus of UW, which helps. Longtime fan of the team and all that. He's a supporter. Of course. All that shit. Yeah. This guy, in time, he would come to represent 14 members of the 2000 football team.
Starting point is 00:32:34 14. He's the house lawyer. Jesus. Like mob, like the mafia, like crews have house lawyers. This is their house lawyer. Unbelievable. Yeah. Players accused of everything from hit and run, animal cruelty, punching a security guard, DUI, an attack at a fraternity house, sexual assault, punching windows out of cars, domestic violence, attack, assaulting parking attendants, that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:32:58 It's a real stand up team. It's a nice. It's a nice group of young men. I'd say it's this Washington or Miami. Yeah. Which team are they? young men, I'd say. Is this Washington or Miami? Yeah. Which team are they? This is crazy. And I hate that.
Starting point is 00:33:09 You can watch The U on 30 for 30 and shit like that. And Miami got so much pub because the guys did dances in the end zone and shit. But they were getting arrested no more than anybody else. They were just like, well, I don't like how they dress. I don't like their big baggy shorts. They listen to rap music and stuff. They say the U. It's Miami.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Stop it. Yeah, that goes for you also, Ohio State. Shut up. Stop with the. The. We get it. There's other Ohio State universities. Not every state says that.
Starting point is 00:33:44 No one says the Arizona State. No. Slap them in the mouth. Not one. The. We get it. There's other Ohio State universities. Not every state says that. No one says the Arizona State. Nope. Slap them in the mouth. Not one. Stupid. The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Quickly, I see that. Ding! The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her. A-long. Okay, so, um... This is not a so. This is a period.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door.
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Starting point is 00:35:39 wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to WikiHole ad-free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Okay, so this Hunziker guy here, he would only charge the players like a couple hundred bucks to get them off of shit that would cost thousands otherwise for lawyers. And he'd also let them pay over time. In other words, he didn't charge them. A few hundred bucks over time means don't worry about it you get your rape defense on layaway i'm not even on nothing away at some point yeah i'm pawning it yeah he had to say that so it wasn't an unfair thing to a player so for ncaa violation rules they had to say oh no we have a payment plan set up who cares he's gonna pay
Starting point is 00:36:22 eight dollars a month till he's 75 years old jesus christ so what's the story with this fucking with this assault here uh apparently just after on june 4th of that year uh just after 3 a.m a uw student called 9-1-1 to report a possible rape in progress um now uh walking back to his dorm, this person who called in, he passed a row of fraternity fraternities and sororities and whatever that is. I don't I didn't go to college. It's rape row. I was going to say all the fucking it smells like vomit and cranberry juice, probably because to get rid of all the infections, I assume. I don't know. So there's like liquid penicillin running down
Starting point is 00:37:05 the gutters running through the it's it's gross it sounds disgusting yeah it sounds that sounds terrible so uh he sees a woman wearing only a bra and maybe underwear leaned against a wall arms to her side he said a tall man faced her with his back to him as he passed by so he saw that uh he said that it just didn't look right what was going on and he said the woman looked right at him but she didn't do anything to cover up he said she looked either really drunk or out of it in some way shape or form drunk drugged something like that she said uh quote he said half passed out eyes glazed no one home that look fucked up basically uh he said taking advantage of look that look the look of just yeah or not even knowing what was going on um he said that quote the male was controlling things it wasn't a two-person
Starting point is 00:37:58 interlude so this was uh yeah obviously uh he said he he said when the man turned, the man who was involved in this tryst or whatever you want to call it, whether it was consensual or not. It's a tryst. It's a tryst of some kind. This outdoor behavior. I don't understand. Yeah, this picnic of sorts. I got this picnic of sorts. I guess the man who was doing this turned and caught sight of this witness.
Starting point is 00:38:34 And the witness said that the man then moved the woman behind a bush. Oh, no. Like, oh, there's people. I'll go over here and do this. So Seattle police came. But when they showed up, they couldn't find anybody because by the time they showed up they weren't outside anymore it's done yeah i wouldn't that would have been quite the obsession outside so um nine hours later this is when the the young lady here woke up at her sorority she's 19 years old she said she had a headache stomach pain sore ribs and her legs were all scratched up she said she could barely move and her bra and her top were around
Starting point is 00:39:06 her waist and covered in dirt and she couldn't find her underwear signs of bad things have happened here that sounds to be a horrible evening horrible evening i don't even i know you're laughing because you're uncomfortable for everyone out there terrible same way last week by the way i had a couple people send me messages that the uh mr fuji feeding someone their dog wasn't funny no shit that's the fucking point not supposed to be the point was he thought it was funny and that's insane and sadistic that's why we were laughing because he's that crazy not because he killed a fucking dog understand comedy or bury yourself in the ground and don't listen to it so so this awful thing happened this terrible shit here um the roommate asked her roommate do
Starting point is 00:39:48 you know what happened yeah obviously to this problem here uh now jeremy at the same time he lived with a bunch of teammates in a house uh off campus he said that he they there was witnesses saying that he pulled a pair of women's underwear out of his jeans pocket and told his roommate, look what I got. Hey, look at that. That's some underwear. He said he had sex with this particular freshman. And the roommate said, no way. He didn't believe him because he knew this girl and knew her to be a virgin.
Starting point is 00:40:20 So he said, you didn't fuck. She didn't fuck you. Right. You know, you're stupid ass so um obviously he tells everybody about it everybody knows about it because he's an asshole he has to spread the word not it's bad enough that he's going to assault somebody but then he's going to brag about it of course or we'll say allegedly we don't know assault then he's going to brag about whatever happened to either way even if it was consensual we fucking shut up any happy you got
Starting point is 00:40:45 it and shut up any sex at a frat house though does not stay in that front no you know that's that's true it's gonna happen it's gonna happen but it shouldn't as in terms of general what do you fucking gotta tell people about it why are you so proud of your dick come on put your dick away do you tell do you brag when you jerk off that much too or is it just are you bragging that you've ejaculated or are you bragging that you've ejaculated, or are you bragging that someone else has let you do that inside them? Which is different? Which one?
Starting point is 00:41:10 Assisted you on that. Or on them. Either one. What are you excited about? Fucking loser. A friend of this young lady, whose name we won't say here, because she tried to keep her name private for a long time, and the university...
Starting point is 00:41:22 Oh, no, they didn't. Well, we'll talk about that. A friend of hers uh heard that a football player heard one football player ask another did you hear that jeremy had sex with this young lady in the dirt outside a fraternity so uh that's when her friends were like well maybe that's a piece of the puzzle yeah we hear this because she was still trying to figure out what the fuck happened to her that night um she uh her room, a friend saw a fleece jacket that belonged to Stevens that she was that he was wearing the night before. The jacket was covered in dirt and appeared to have blood on it as well.
Starting point is 00:41:55 So this is not great. The young lady here, she couldn't remember how she got home. She told the police. She said she had three beers over dinner before going to the fraternity party and two drinks while she was there now um she said that stevens was there a friend of his of all sorts of people were at the party she said the last beer that she drank she remembered being handed and already been opened and then after that she didn't remember anything oh no so uh yeah that's that's what we're looking at here. I think we can all deduce the possible outcome there. She said she stayed in bed most of the day.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Her friends went and searched for her underwear to try to find them to piece this all together, and they couldn't find them, probably because they were in Jeremy's pocket. Did you check those Jordache that he's wearing? Yeah. She said that a word, basically, they came back to this young lady, her friends, after doing some investigating and said, okay, we can't find your underwear. Jeremy Stevens is saying this. This is what's going on. And they said that she looked horrified, this young lady, hearing about this.
Starting point is 00:42:57 She was worried she might have been sexually assaulted. She was worried about, did this guy get her pregnant? Does she have a disease now? She asked her friends, what do I do here? Like, you know, all these crazy thoughts that you have to think. It's horrible. So she gets on the phone. Later on that night, she gets Jeremy on the phone.
Starting point is 00:43:16 This alleged victim here gets Jeremy on the phone, and she told police what happened later on. Jeremy told her that he'd walked her home uh he said he told her quote we kissed and some stuff and she asked did we have sex and he told her no he said quote don't trip it's nothing don't worry about it is what he told her that was it no we didn't have sex don't trip don't worry about it you're good you're good it's all good i tell you to rub some dirt in it but it looks like you already did it's like somebody already really rubbed dirt might have been me but i'm not positive so um so uh so she asked him well why are you telling everyone that you're that we did have sex if we didn't have sex and he said that he didn't say that what are you talking about he's a college he's a meat and a
Starting point is 00:44:00 meathead he's at an age where a lot of guys are assholes even if they're future decent people this is an age where they don't they don't know that yet and they don't know how to behave like adult people and on top of that he's a meathead so that's even worse you got all you can double it for me he's actively uh i don't generating more and more testosterone like on purpose because that's encouraged absolutely and he doesn't know how to fucking and more testosterone, like, on purpose, because that's encouraged. Absolutely. And he doesn't know how to fucking handle it. That's his whole life, is hit harder and, you know, fucking be more aggressive. Be more aggressive.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Right. Not so aggressive. Be more aggressive. Hey, not so aggressive. Take it easy with her. Well, you know what? You got to fucking do that. That's the line you have to walk if you're going to do shit like this.
Starting point is 00:44:41 You can't just be all aggressive all the time and go, well, they want me people and oh i'm sorry then carry on that's not gonna be okay oh boy so uh um yeah he denied that he told anyone anything afterwards jeremy told his roommate and the roommate told jeremy uh quote you have to call her back you have to let her know you had sex you at least owe her that so um that's what the roommate was telling him so later that night she went to the hospital uh across the street from the university there she got you know medical treatment and was examined the kid uh the yeah her parents went with her so they were supportive which is good at least she had her family support there uh the medical staff found semen present yeah and uh in in two different places oh no yes and a doctor also told her that she had some uh some lacerations inside the anal
Starting point is 00:45:34 area there as well as uh finding good lord man yeah i don't even know how to go on on that one um i promise the graphic stuff will be over in a minute here and then we're just going to get into him being an asshole and we'll make lots of fun of him we'll make fun of him extra hard for all this i promise you promise he is the worst kind of person yeah this is this is especially for a young man yeah you know this isn't even like his allegations are him you know what i mean he hasn't even been in like the nba for 10 years where he's got some delusional like he's here for a year and he's like i can do anything i want he doesn't even have any money yet imagine if this you know what i mean imagine if he was charles barkley or somebody
Starting point is 00:46:13 like when we did the oliver miller case so uh they take they took the semen away for the rape kit for testing and uh on june 6th the kit uh the case went to Mary Ann Parker, who was the detective, the sexual assault unit detective. So the detective, Detective Parker, here interviewed the young lady, obviously thought she'd been slipped a drug or some kind of some kind, but too much time had elapsed since this. So there's no way to test for that. Now, Detective Parker also interviews people who had been at the party. They all say that this young lady's condition changed suddenly that night they said her speech started get being slurred she had trouble standing she started leaning against people and acting drugged yeah they described her as kind of out of physical control of herself everybody's seen it
Starting point is 00:46:58 people have seen it yeah uh so her friends uh all told us this young lady's friends told Detective Parker that they escorted her from the party. The sorority was nearby. It was right there. But they said she wasn't in any shape to walk home. That's how messed up she was here. So behind the fraternity, they said a police car pulled up and an officer asked if the young lady was all right. And her friend said, we're just driving her home. She's fine and
Starting point is 00:47:25 on the way they saw stevens in the alley and i guess this young lady's friends dropped her off at the sorority sorority but didn't walk her in so what they're saying is they took her home dropped her off he was nearby saw this stumbling girl trying to get into the sorority and saw that as some sort of prey basically they weren't even at the party together he didn't even give her the drug it's not like they were outside and they went fucking you know he took her outside he literally was like look at that chick stumbling into the apartment no one's around her i can go take her into the bushes oh think about that think about that behavior oh that's worse that's that's worse yeah opportunistic and shit that is disturbing oh one
Starting point is 00:48:06 of dahmer's victims got out that that's for me disturbing as fuck man fuck man uh so on the morning he was that's you know alleged anyway so in the morning he was arrested the detective uh took him into the police station she asked him if he'd be willing to answer questions and he said no you know what no yeah i don't think i want to talk about that i've answered enough questions i'm good i'm good uh they did say they did get were able to draw his blood though for dna testing oh and they booked him into jail another detective that day interviewed a defensive lineman who lived with stevens the lineman said he didn't believe that jeremy raped the young lady and they said why not why don't you think
Starting point is 00:48:46 that and the detective the the defensive player's answer was quote well he's my best friend i hang out with champions okay first of all that's it that was that's just the first sentence okay now if why don't you think your friend raped that girl not because he was over here while she was over there well he's my best friend i hang out with champions does not explain anything that tells you you're talking to an asshole right then you should just say get out of my fucking office you dipshit wow or uh if you've got a lot of time and you are looking for a fun afternoon keep asking questions because he's clearly full of gold well he's got more yeah he's got more material that's just his opening he's got a tight five jimmy uh he then said that stevens was quote the type of guy where where usually when he fools
Starting point is 00:49:39 around he ends up having sex because he's a charming guy and quote chicks dig him that's disgusting that's what he said i mean usually he starts fucking around they'll usually end up fucking him because he's a charming dude he's a champion champion i hang out with champions what a weird thing to say he's my best friend i hang out with champions you know he usually gets laid the most because he's a charming guy does this guy want to fuck jeremy stevens he wants to fuck jeremy stevens i want to know who this guy is yeah and guy want to fuck Jeremy Stevens? He wants to fuck Jeremy Stevens. I want to know who this guy is, and I want to know right now what part of Fire Island he lives on and what his husband's name is, because he's clearly a gay man who's trying
Starting point is 00:50:16 to hide it, which there's nothing wrong with that. He should just come out and tell Jeremy he's in love with him, and maybe they would have ... Tell him your feelings, man. Maybe he could have saved us all a lot of heartache and pain here. Listen, Aaron Hernandez allegedly blew a quarterback. Maybe you could, too. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:50:28 That's right. Or at least a tight end. So, you know. So, he ends up spending the night in jail, Jeremy. The next day, he has a bail hearing. Fifteen of his teammates show up in support of him at the bail hearing. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Think about that. He even got bench players to come out. Oh, yeah. whole starting team got the whole star maybe the kicker yeah special teams guys you can corral them into doing anything you know you want to be part of the team motherfucker we're gonna give you so many fucking swirlies later unless you get over there turn her in here so uh the prosecutor said they needed more time to review the evidence, and they end up releasing Stevens without current charges and leaving it on the docket because they're building a case here. And Stevens' teammates cheered at that point, obviously, which is classy. They're kind of waving the fucking... Yeah. in the fucking yeah the king county prosecutor who's elected uh norman melling he said that he
Starting point is 00:51:27 didn't know beforehand that jeremy was going to be arrested he and two top deputies uh were quote livid that's what the detective said basically the higher-ups were pissed that he was arrested really they were mad at that because yeah they have they're elected and they have ties to the university and the university controls a lot and you're not supposed to do this so this detective parker later on said she took a rash of shit for charging this case because they didn't know that that was it was a publicity thing and how dare you do this they were pissed at her for this um she said quote we were mad they were mad at they were mad that we had arrested him because they had to deal with the media fallout. After all, he was going to be a superstar.
Starting point is 00:52:09 She said she was called in to the prosecutor's office and told to explain her actions, which is fucking amazing. I have a girl, Sam's virginity. You know what I mean? Let me tell you where Steven was found. Would you like to read this medical document? I'll give you three guesses and two of them will be right you know what i'm saying stipulation they have to be in on yeah go three guesses you're gonna get them eventually so they're gonna be right so uh yeah this is crazy so uh four of her superiors came in with her an assistant chief a lieutenant and two sergeants and there was six prosecutors so this is a this is a high level circle jerk
Starting point is 00:52:55 right here there's a whole lot of uh pissiness going on but they've got his dna and they've got semen from the victim yeah oh and we'll find out about that too uh so the uh uh the number offices number two uh satterberg the prosecutor's office number two who reported right to the prosecutor uh they they were all there everybody they said why'd you arrest him one of parker's bosses told this prosecutor quote we don't need your permission to arrest someone all we need is probable cause you're not in charge of the police department you can choose not to prosecute it if you want that's on you but we're not going to just let people go you want to be the asshole enjoy it's your job that's your job motherfucker politics is your job a police sergeant doesn't care about
Starting point is 00:53:38 the outside he cares about the whether it pisses off his boss because that's going to give problems on him but if the cops don't care yeah fuck them yeah fuck city hall they don't give a shit about that so uh the investigation goes on here uh it continues on for a couple months he's still free without charges here uh the the wow this is fucked up man yeah she she you know they it becomes very public by the way good um a blood sample was taken from him like we said uh by the way. Good. A blood sample was taken from him, like we said. By the way, that's a match. Yeah. It's definitely him.
Starting point is 00:54:09 He definitely, whether it was consensual or not. He got his semen inside her. His semen was inside of her. Wow. I'm just going to go out. Okay. This is going to sound crass, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and just say, first time a chick.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Let's say it was consensual. Let's just say it was consensual.'s just say it was consensual let's assume how many i i i mean how many times are they letting you go back there there you go zero how many times zero ladies how many times during your first time were you like well this is okay put it in my ass while we're really sullying me fuck it how often has that happened that is an order and me being carefree how often does that happen it's never happened it's not happened often probably we can especially from a girl who goes all the way to college while still being a virgin yeah you know what i mean like she's obviously you know like i don't know i'm not i'm not judging anybody else i'm just
Starting point is 00:55:04 saying that obviously she's keeping it together in that department and not being like i'm gonna fucking get my ass out right the worst part is that this is at a party this just ruined her college it's already over her whole experience in college is done for yeah she can't she's not gonna feel safe going anywhere ever again ever you can't you can't How could you? You can't do this to women. No, you can't. This is a problem. She can't ever drink anything unless she pours it herself from now on for the rest of her fucking life.
Starting point is 00:55:33 It's horrible. She unseals it. Yeah, literally. Not even unseals it. Cuts it and gets it out of a box on her own and then takes it out and unwraps it, then unseals it. The guy at Coors Light didn't drug this. You can do it.
Starting point is 00:55:43 You can get a syringe in there, I'm sure. So now the DNA testing, they did a rush job. They sent it to Maryland. All this shit here. They compared everything, and that was when they matched that up. Also, while investigating Stevens, the Parker here, Detective Parker, dug up an email that Stevens sent to a woman that he'd slept with at the university of washington it is not cool at all oh she runs down his sex moves no
Starting point is 00:56:15 no he emails her wait hold on yeah not the girl this is a different girl a different girl not the yeah um okay he says quote this is in a fucking email it's too long are i doing in their own words on it because it's that asshole uh quote i know that you are not going to believe what i have to say especially after saturday night so he spells saturday s-a-t-t-e-r-d-a-y just or d yeah just because you spell your name like an asshole doesn't mean that we spell everything else like assholes he spelled it like as if it like is his name matter day yeah latter day jeremy with two r's you know what it is it's his own syntax latter day james latter day saturday saints yeah and maybe that's why jeremy has two r's too so especially after saturday night but
Starting point is 00:57:00 when i got but when i got your email today I laughed at first but then it started to sink in and my heart started to break as I read over your words I realize that I have messed up and I want to talk to you about being with you and how I can make it up to you this is not a joke I want to have you in my arms and know you are mine and that nothing I have done or a friend has said could ever change the way I feel about you. When I think back to the night I spent with you by ourselves, I wish I would have done one thing. And that is I wish I would have. And then.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Oh, boy. And then he goes, they don't give the thing here. But he talks about fucking her in the ass. Oh, my God. Very explicitly. And then he closes with the whole part was a fucking setup because then the end the last line is quote you whore don't ever utter my name again what so this was just a setup to do the blah blah blah blah tell her i should have violently fucked you
Starting point is 00:57:58 in the ass you whore don't ever uh utter my name again that. That's his email. So this is how he treats women who say that he's been bad to them. He sends them emails threatening we're sexual. Oh, boy. So this is all when they're building the case. The character is like, whoa. But being an asshole doesn't necessarily make you a criminal. But when you add everything up um jeremy even shared this email with his teammate who this is he only hangs out with championship maybe what do
Starting point is 00:58:31 you want from that guy it's the guy he shared it with uh that guy called it quote a funny ass email so i don't know what the problem is it's a real m night shama one it's a it's pretty funny ending coming like i like carlin and shit like that usually Usually I like Chappelle's new special on Netflix. That's really good. But stuff like this is kind of my style, though. I like it. It was a real I See Dead People. It was incredible.
Starting point is 00:58:53 This and Dilbert are my two things that I'm into. What the fuck? I really love that Kathy. Ah, she's hilarious. She really gets it. By the way, do you like emails? That's a real knee slapper, isn't it, Jimmy? My favorite part is when he called her a whore.
Starting point is 00:59:13 That's the funniest. I love the two words anal and Fisher put together. It really kicks it up. He's a real lyrical emerald. It's good and his knowledge of anatomy is wonderful threatening a fist shell is pretty impressive he really pays attention he pays attention he knows what he's doing he's an ass connoisseur he's wow what an asshole i fucking hate. Don't you want to punch him in the fucking dick at this point? I really do if he was not 6'7".
Starting point is 00:59:45 Oh, yeah, he would throw you into a... He could probably get distance, like measurable distance on you, like a shot put. Ah, fuck, he sucks. He sucks. So this teammate was interviewed, also called the woman who received this funny-ass email, quote, a typical football groupie. So, yeah, that's who we're dealing with here. They are sweet and generous and downright neighborly.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Right neighborly. Right neighborly. That's right. To fuck you for free. And you're going to treat them like that? That's what I mean. Fuck you, man. What are you doing? Jeremy, you're going to treat them like that? That's what I mean. Fuck you, man. Why?
Starting point is 01:00:25 What are you doing? Jaramie, you're a real asshole. Yeah. We have young men that listen to the show. If you're a young guy, you're under 25. Right. Right? And you're into women.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Yeah. If a woman fucks you, that's a wonderful, glorious thing. Be thankful for that. Be thankful for that. She's an angel. She's fantastic. She didn't have to do that. thing. Be thankful for that. What a darling. Be thankful for that. She's an angel. She's fantastic. She didn't have to do that. No.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Treat her as such. You know what the other option was? He would have went home and jerked off. And instead, she was goodly enough to be nice to you and have sex with you. Somehow, she saw something in your pile of shit to me. You put that on in the exterior that you're cool, but you know you're a pile of shit inside. You know you are. Think about the awful things you think about.
Starting point is 01:01:05 You're a terrible person. This girl looked past all of that. And did your dominant hand a favor. Fucking sex with you. Be nice. God damn it. Fucking be a dick afterwards. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:01:17 You ruin it for everybody else then. Yeah. You know, you be nice to her and then maybe next time she has sex with somebody else and they're nice to her and everybody's nice to everybody after they have sex and then everybody wants to have sex more it's a glorious place for everybody i don't know you might learn something that you like that you didn't know you like because she's good at it there you go you fucking jerk jerks so uh september 21st this is five weeks after the results came back the uh the uh they meet with prosecutors and the police meet with them and to discuss potential proof problems uh there in terms of actual consensualness and things like that
Starting point is 01:01:54 so they said that there was uh you know they're depending on the prosecutors to want to charge this and as we know they're not they don't have a lot of backbone for shit like this so uh the next day deputy prosecutor told police that an interview had been arranged and all this sort of thing but he also said the prosecutor's front office had agreed to certain conditions negotiated by steven's attorney mike hunzinger right freebie freebie mike freebie hunzinger over here uh first of mike open Mike Hunzinger. Yeah, it's free. First, the interview had to be not at the police station, but at the lawyer's office. This is more comfortable for Jeremy.
Starting point is 01:02:32 You know what I mean? Obviously. Second, that the lead detective, the part detective Parker couldn't ask any questions. None. The lead detective is not allowed to ask any questions. Only the prosecutor would be allowed to ask questions, which not how interrogations work it's just not the cops are good at that they're good at interrogation that's especially a 14-year veteran detective kind of what she does so uh she obviously protested to her sergeant and she knew the evidence and everything
Starting point is 01:03:01 like that but uh there's nothing they could really do about it because the prosecutors agree to it because it's uh they need the interview so uh the deputy prosecutor told her of another condition later on the prosecutor's office agreed to give uh to give police evidence to uh including the victim and witness steven statements to stevens before the interview before the interview. Before the interview. You think of Jeremy? No. He knows everything he's going to be asked? Why fucking bother?
Starting point is 01:03:31 He's just going to fucking, he knows everything. And him and his lawyer can sit there and go over it, even if he's perfectly innocent or anything. You don't do that. There's disclosure, but that's for court. Once you get to court, you have to disclose. But everything can be a fucking surprise of what you have. And then they go, oh shit, and they have to deal with that with that when you interrogate someone you don't want them to know shit yeah because nothing it's easier to bust somebody when they're
Starting point is 01:03:53 creating their story on the fly fly and then you can get them to trip up when you're when you've given them the timeline to put you their story it fucks everything up the patriots don't go to play the seahawks and throw them the playbook no they the patriots steal the playbook from other teams and look how well it works that's what happened and look at it works well see jesus christ that's what tom brady's gonna be in tampa going i don't know what defense they're gonna run is anybody how come no one tells me exactly what defense everyone's gonna run that's what i'm used to just exactly what it is and the signals that we steal what no i just have to play
Starting point is 01:04:31 but they're trying to catch it too right he wants to tackle me pussy the nfc's got a little better defense too oh no better watch out for those saints of their bounty gate gotta play them twice a year now fuck ed so uh yeah this is absolutely insane this is the uh absolute opposite of police procedure the opposite of interrogation have you ever seen the first 48 yeah do they give someone everything they know ahead of time before they go into the office or they try to fucking blindside them with shit they don't know about all right so uh that's goddamn crazy the police department's legal advisor was brought in uh this became a giant departmental clusterfuck and with the prosecutor's office it's all politics and shit like that um they said that uh basically all the cops are like we've never heard of this before
Starting point is 01:05:21 this is fucking ridiculous um detective parker submitted uh the police evidence to the prosecutors on october 5th and it became up to them uh and they're going to sit on it for a minute the prosecutors it's all up to the prosecutors while this is going on on october 19th of that year um late at night a guy named donald preston is coming home uh to olympia he just visited his son who was being treated for cancer in a children's hospital in Seattle. Oh, my God. He's late night. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Coming home. Exhausted. Exhausted. All day long. He was with his son, who has cancer. Going home. Sat through chemo today. Sad, probably.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Exhausted. Yeah. Ruined. Oh, by the way, pouring rain. Yeah. Also, to make it even better. Make it more depressive. He drives south on I-5.
Starting point is 01:06:06 He's in the carpool lane. Got his 10-year-old daughter next to him also. Family cry fest. Yeah, that's it. Great. So ahead of him, he sees an accident blocking traffic here. And as he's slowing down, because it's raining and there's an accident, a red Toyota pickup truck tries to get around him from the back
Starting point is 01:06:26 because it was coming very fast and instead sideswipes this poor man's Dodge Daytona, smashing the whole driver's side of his car. As if the day couldn't get worse, now let's stand outside in the pouring fucking rain in the middle of the night with my 10-year-old waiting for police reports and shit. He said that the pickup truck's driver was quote driving like a maniac and uh the witnesses said that the pickup truck was using the hov lane as a passing lane basically uh now the pickup truck's driver it's jeremy stevens of course of course right come on just on his way home from a panty race. What's going on in there? Who wants to crack a beer?
Starting point is 01:07:05 Hold on. I'll get it. Suck this one down. There you go. He gets out. He leans against his truck. And the witnesses said that he leaned against the truck and said, is everybody okay? Then he climbed back in his truck and drove away.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Hit and run? Didn't offer his name, phone number, insurance. He literally got out. Everybody cool? All right. Take off. I gotta go. Bye.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Wow. Nothing. Now, meanwhile, Preston, he didn't hear him say, are you okay? Because he was still stuck in his car because the fucking door was stuck from being smashed in. He had to kick his way out of the car. He had to kick his door open to get out. His daughter was inside. Luckily, it wasn't her side that was hit. smashed in he had to kick his way out of the car he had to kick his door open to get out uh his daughter was uh you know inside luckily it wasn't her side that was hit his daughter though at 10
Starting point is 01:07:50 was sharp enough to memorize the license plate of the pickup truck which no one else did which is fucking awesome she's the only one the only one she got it um so state trooper arrived took down the report and uh yeah so they had to figure out who the hell was driving this because they knew that the truck at that point they end up finding him obviously he is uh cited for reckless driving and hit and run both not good pit and run causing property damage right and he apologized oh he apologized he said uh he apologized and his lawyer hunzinger how silver is this he said that uh this wow he said the the apology that what he called the quote statement was not an admission of guilt it's an acknowledgement of responsibility
Starting point is 01:08:31 what's the difference legally i think he literally was parsing legalities so if you're not responsible you're not guilty if you're responsible you're probably you're responsible, you're probably... You're fine. So he's still in college. Yeah. He hasn't made a fucking dime on the table yet. We're an hour into this fucking thing. He just can't get out of college. He keeps getting arrested.
Starting point is 01:08:54 October 2000, King County prosecutors decide no charges for Jeremy on the sexual assault. None. None. We're in the lack of evidence. We're good. Oh, they can't prove the non-consensual part. Then what they said, wow,
Starting point is 01:09:09 they said that the, this is insane, man. Prosecutor told a news conference that the young lady who filed the complaint was drunk and unable to recall the events of the evening.
Starting point is 01:09:20 And either way, she was that drunk that you were saying she's that drunk and he had his semen in her. Then aren't you not supposed to have sex with chicks who are completely fucking like beyond fucking drunk? And aren't you supposed to not do that?
Starting point is 01:09:34 I think it depends on how short their skirt is. Oh, you're right. You're right. Oh, because you're right. Because if it's short enough, then clearly they want unnecessary anal sex. Obviously. Clearly. Jesus Christ. Oh, see, I forget these things, Jimmy. I don't know what I'm thinking. enough then clearly they want unnecessary anal sex obviously clearly in jesus christ oh see i
Starting point is 01:09:47 forget these things jimmy i don't know what i'm thinking you gotta look at the legalities jane none of this is true this is terrible um yeah she said that the prosecutor said that the witnesses couldn't corroborate her claim that she was raped because you know we took her outside prosecutor also said this whoa um wow this is 20 years ago if you said if you said this no this is a prosecutor detective yeah uh this is malang who was the uh season ticket holder season ticket holder and elected is the word i'm looking for official he said and this would get you out of office immediately now rightfully so quote i think what this case demonstrates is what we've always known.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Excessive drinking can lead to poor choices. Unbelievable. Whoa, that is crazy. As a man. Yeah, no, she's talking about. Yeah, he's. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Excessive drinking causes you to rape. Is that what you're trying to say? Yeah. You certainly can't say he's saying so out of it he's saying that uh well you know she shouldn't have got so drunk and fuck someone she didn't want to fuck that's what the prosecutor said basically yeah that's exactly what he said wow um steven said here he says quote i'm relieved that this matter has been resolved and i can continue to focus on being a student at washington and a member of the football team. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:11:05 That's it. Yeah, he said it's been, the coach Rick Neuheisel said, it's been a difficult time for everyone involved. I'm glad this has been resolved. My general feeling is one of relief. Resolved or dismissed? Just you. Those are two different things, sir. I don't know about resolved.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Jesus Christ, man. I don't even know what to say about this. Stevens thanks his teammates for his support and everything like that. The police department here, one of the members said, quote, I think he I thought he should have been charged. I think most people in the police department thought he should have been charged from the police perspective. I think there was overwhelming evidence that a crime had occurred. And think uh and and i think that we should have let it left it to a jury to decide fair i think we just felt in our unit and in the police department as a whole that this case was handled differently and we felt it was handled to be god that way because he was a
Starting point is 01:11:59 university of washington football star exactly that's the whole fucking point here um larson who was the detective there uh one of the detectives he said uh oh no i'm sorry that's the prosecutor's office guy larson he's the head of the county prosecutor's criminal division he thinks the prosecutors made the right call i think we did the right thing he said we have no doubt she was pretty drunk that night real drunk can we stop saying that? He said, but proving helplessness was too hard to do. Yeah, he said that. And they said, was it only because he's a football player?
Starting point is 01:12:33 And the prosecutor called it, quote, outrageous and untrue. How dare you think that this would have anything to do with politics? They said they had to write a decline letter to police explaining their reasons the prosecutor declining to press charges in their decline letter uh which was confidential at the time it includes some uh some language here uh they said that uh the letter said quote it seems unlikely that the victim would have consented to anal intercourse with the suspect in fraternity alley right in a fraternity alley being a virgin so yeah uh but it also says that jurors could find reasonable doubt so why prosecute it don't want
Starting point is 01:13:11 to mess up your conviction rate i guess jesus fucking christ they said the case hinged on the young lady's mental and physical state and whether she was capable of consenting to sex uh they said that uh you know the witness that saw her it looked like she was drunk or drugged but he doesn't know her so he doesn't they said you know who knows right he wouldn't know what she looks like during the day that's what i mean um it also said that um that says that her friends describe her as standing making limited conversation and making decisions but also her friends described her as unable to keep her balance having slurred speech acting like she was drugged and unable to walk or stand they picked what they wanted to they
Starting point is 01:13:49 cherry-picked this shit um the the uh letter also said quote none of her friends appeared afraid for her welfare because they dropped her off outside of her fucking house from the driveway to the front door you shouldn't be in danger of being raped where are we right you know what i mean what the fuck man good lord um so yeah that's ridiculous so 2000 washington huskies yeah on the football field because he's just going in for his you know second year of playing they were good this year they're 11 and one yeah they're great they win the rose bowl against purdue 34 to 24 uh great great record wonderful good for you assholes. He plays in 11 games, Jeremy does.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Has 600 yards receiving, 43 receptions, three touchdowns. He's second all-team, all-pack 10 that year. So, hey, everything's fine. I was a Sun Devil season ticket holder that year. I bet I watched this fucking jerk-off play. All is forgiven now. Unbelievable. It's all fine.
Starting point is 01:14:50 So, May 4th, 2001. one o'clock in the morning, Jeremy's driving a red Toyota pickup truck, seems to be his truck of choice. And as he's Jesus Christ almighty. Wow. As he's driving, he somehow loses control of the truck and smashes into the side of a retirement home. Okay. Into the wall of a retirement home, breaking a window and knocking a dresser onto
Starting point is 01:15:10 the bed where a 92-year-old woman was sleeping. Oh, my word! Yeah. Luckily, she was uninjured. She woke up to a truck coming into her bedroom with her dresser falling on her. He almost killed a grandma. And think about the headlights. She thought this was it.
Starting point is 01:15:25 She thought it was over. It's getting brighter. She has a crash and Bryce is like, he's taking me. Christ knocks over dressers. And she's like, oh, it's just a rapist. Never mind. High rapist. Alleged.
Starting point is 01:15:42 It's high alleged rapist. How you doing? Wow. So, oh my this is this is fucking crazy yeah so his truck is stuck yeah okay on a nursing home and on a literally on an old lady's bedroom truck is wedged on an old lady's dresser at this point so he can't really get that out he's stuck on a hutch so yeah so yeah. So rather than, you know, seeing if this woman's okay, maybe he killed somebody. He gets his school textbooks out to get them under the tires for traction. Don't need these.
Starting point is 01:16:15 I don't use these. What are these things I have? Oh, these. Look at these blocks. Wow. Cool. These. Oh, these open.
Starting point is 01:16:21 What's in here? Paper. Wow. Weird. Okay. If I need to roll something later i'll use those he used them for traction putting them under his tires and then fucking drove away wow he didn't even he just drove away everybody okay i gotta go luckily one thing that apparently children and the elderly we know are really good at yeah taking down license plate numbers they have
Starting point is 01:16:43 nothing better to do right then take down every license plate number they see so a 72 year old man saw him drive away took down his license plate number perfect um he lied to the cops he said i don't know who was driving my truck beats me oh my god i loaned it out all the time you know how that goes um so then they said well um that's funny because there's a 72 year old guy that described exactly you you're pretty you stand out. You're like this huge guy and the whole deal. So then he said, all right, I'm fine. I was there.
Starting point is 01:17:09 I lied. I apologize. He just apologized. That's all. By the way, Hunzinger agreed to represent him again. Yeah. In the middle of the night, this guy gets. He's got like a punch card for Hunzinger.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Yeah, that's. And they're always full. It's always full. It's always the free one. You're always on a free sub. You always got nine punches on this thing. Is this a foot long for the free one? Wow. The coach knew Heisel here.
Starting point is 01:17:31 He was in San Diego playing golf, which is a very silver-haired activity. He issued a statement saying he'd address the team on the need to make better decisions. How about no? That's not a bad decision. You could have killed an old woman and then didn't care enough to even check right that's a that's a matter of character if you almost killed an old woman and if he would have got out of the truck climbed through the hole in the fucking wall and said oh my god are you okay and called an ambulance for you'd go people fuck up they make
Starting point is 01:17:59 even if he's drunk you go well i mean i might not be a bad guy but he fucking made a mistake or whatever he said i don't give a shit who I did anything to. They don't matter. Only I matter. He's the prototypical athlete. Only I matter. What the fuck? And they found the coach golfing.
Starting point is 01:18:14 He was golfing. He's like, I'll talk to him about it. Literally, it was like, yeah, you did like the 12 hole. I'm shooting a 28 right now, like Bush back in the day when they asked him about Katrina. And he was like, I'll talk to him about it now watch this drive pow and he fucking that's what push did about katrina i'll figure it out same shit so uh yeah uh stevens end up ends up having a month later pleading guilty to hit and run on the other thing uh he receives a 90-day sentence suspended of course yeah on the condition that he stay out of trouble um his parents took
Starting point is 01:18:46 the truck away from him oh that wasn't great punishment take that away from you honey clearly you are not mature enough to handle this will jeremy's learned his lesson now it's okay uh new heisel also coach suspended him from the first half of the opening game of the season the first half jimmy okay guys he's the hardest part he's learned his lesson he sat out for you know we're talking upwards of 16 minutes upwards of 20 whole minutes he sat out i mean that's crazy uh upward and he's he doesn't get his truck anymore which is smashed to shit anyway i'm sure upwards of four series he said yeah upwards of four offensive series afterwards he said quote it was hard sitting the first half poor guy god damn it i had to come in when we were winning 32 to nothing
Starting point is 01:19:38 afterwards they asked new heisel about it new heisel said he's learned his lesson yeah he's learned his lesson j He's learned his lesson. Jesus, fuck. So, yeah, he gets, by the way, the nursing home thing was a violation of his probation for the other hit and run. I'm sorry, for the beating in high school. Oh, Jesus. That's a violation. He's on probation for that still.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Yeah, there's one of those. A 92-year-old woman. Jesus Christ, man. He ends up, he's ordered to, you, sir, may fuck off 240 hours of community service and a $1,000 fine. And I'm sorry, that's suspended, though. Fine suspended. 90-day jail term suspended. So you're fine there.
Starting point is 01:20:19 2001 Huskies, though, here. They're 8-4. Who cares? Jeremy played in five games. He had an elbow injury. Blah, though, here. They're 8-4. Who cares? Jeremy played in five games. He had an elbow injury, blah, blah, blah. Okay, missed the rest of that season. He does, though, because he knows he's going to go to the NFL. What you can do when you're a senior after your senior year is you can,
Starting point is 01:20:38 well, even before that, basically you go into debt with agents. You get an agent, and an agent will spot, what do you want? You want an apartment, and they'll give you all that money. money they'll buy you cars they'll buy you anything you want and then that shit comes right off the top when you get paid so apparently while he's a senior jeremy gets a new suv and a top floor condominium in bellevue as well um but he'd also and he says he's he's very excited to go to the nfl but he's going to get his degree obviously this year first yeah he's going to get his degree, obviously, this year first. He definitely doesn't get his degree at all. But he did just spend $2 million.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Yeah, and he bought a brand-new Range Rover and a top-floor condo. Oh, shit. A month later, he gets a ticket in that Range Rover for going 98 miles an hour in a 50. Almost double the speed limit that is 50. A lot to come by here. For the draft that year, I have his 40 speed is 4.77, which isn't terrible for a tight end of his size because he's a blocker and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:21:37 He's 265 pounds he's up to, too, at this point. So big boy here. This 2002 NFL draft, number one pick was uh 2002 i don't know david carr oh really yes oh that's too bad that's real poor david car get the shit pounded out of him uh second overall julius peppers that's a bad motherfucker yeah joey harrington third hey oh not great one that's a bad one too is this draft bad one, too. Is this draft? Never mind. You keep going. This is bad. I'm not going to guess. Quentin Jammer, Bryant McKinney, Roy Williams. Jammer played for the Chargers.
Starting point is 01:22:10 He's great. Absolutely. A bunch of defensive tackles, offensive tackles, guys like that. Dwight Freeney came out of this draft. Jeremy Shockey comes out of this draft. The Giants draft him number 14. That's important because that's the guy that the Seahawks wanted bad, was Shockey. Albert Hainsworth goes number 15. He's a dick yeah we'll have an episode about him one of these days
Starting point is 01:22:29 uh philip buchanan javon walker ed reed goes in that draft yeah ed reed's a bad motherfucker finally number 28 overall first round seattle picks jeremy stevens uh yeah this is in a trade with green bay and uh he was kind of like their third choice, but they were happy to get him. They wanted a big tight end, and they got one. So he gets to stay in the Pacific Northwest. Staying home. Wow. So that's the other thing, too. He's a hometown guy. He's from UW.
Starting point is 01:22:56 It's one of those deals. Clinton Portis went in the second round there, too, that year. To the Broncos. Yes. Yes, to the Broncos. 51. So they wanted Daniel Graham or Jeremy Shockey, and they had to trade down to do other shit. And they ended up with Jeremy Stevens, who has more arrests than touchdowns in college. So that's not a great thing. Stevens, though, he said, look, man, it's going to be fine.
Starting point is 01:23:21 He said, if anybody realizes the mistakes mistakes it's definitely me more than anyone else ever did ever oh boy i recognize my mistakes better than anyone ever so yeah uh and mike holmgren said he was convinced coach mike holmgren of the seahawks he said they had a long meeting and he said i was convinced of his sincerity sounds good he said other people with the character issues i didn't see it with this guy. He said, quote, my typical reaction
Starting point is 01:23:46 to someone who has gotten jammed up a little, as he did, was to take them off the board. In other words, not to even think about drafting them. He said, quote,
Starting point is 01:23:54 I was just talking to his folks and I was talking to my family and I asked them, why is he still on the board and why am I doing this? I've never done it before. So, yeah,
Starting point is 01:24:02 he said he spent a good portion of a day with Stevens and came away with just a totally different view of him. He said after the meeting, his feeling was great. Yeah. After Stevens gave his version of his past, you know, of I didn't really do any of that stuff. Sociopath defending himself. Obviously.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Yeah, it's one of those after Ted Bundy tells you, you know, that he was the one who was actually hurt by that girl. Right. Ted Bundy was a victim to pornography. A victim of pornography. We know it's a poor guy. The guy who was never in pornography. They should have. They should have really let him make speeches and things like that.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Let him out. He said, quote, I felt like maybe I put some of that to rest. I felt like I was able to show him that maybe I'm not the type of person that I'm perceived to be. But I definitely do realize the perceived risk he's taking. I think he's confident and I'm definitely confident that it's going to work out. Trent Dilfer, the quarterback, who's on TV all the time now,
Starting point is 01:24:54 he says, quote, he's obviously a great player and he's going to be a great player for us and I'm excited to have him. Can't wait. They signed him to a five-year contract. Right out of the gate? Right out of the gate. Yeah, your rookie deal. Worth $6.2 million. What a deal.
Starting point is 01:25:08 So, hey, look at you. Doing fine. Wow. That'll buy a lot of roofies. So, yeah. Summer 2002, he is pulled over after veering into oncoming traffic repeatedly. Repeated. Repeatedly.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Yeah. Yeah. So, they pull him over over he had alcohol on his breath he does agree to the breathalyzer and he blows below the legal limit he blows a uh 0.051 which is below the 0.08 legal limit but he's also cited for negligent driving and paid a 490 fine sober or not you can't swerve into oncoming traffic it's just not all right you are lucky you're in washington because in arizona they just locked up for 30 days. They just arrested him and figured it out later.
Starting point is 01:25:49 That's what I mean, yeah. You could be totally fine. They'll be like, I think you're swerving. You're under investigation of DUI, and they arrest you. Do that to anybody. Slightest degree. I see it on Live PD, where the guy actually, one of the Arizona cops, the guy was totally fine. He did a sobriety test, passed it.
Starting point is 01:26:05 He was obviously not fucked up. The guy, the fucking cop was just, he had to be fucked up. He wouldn't take no for an answer. Brett, the lies are double zeros. Fucking walk.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Did his whole thing backwards. Teal heel toe passed it all. But he's looking at him. He's looking at his eyes. He goes, I don't know, man, your eyes are red.
Starting point is 01:26:22 He goes, let me see your tongue. And he puts his, and he goes, yeah, raise taste buds there. Yeah, you've been smoking marijuana. marijuana he goes you're under arrest for the guy was like the fuck are you talking about it was in panel county arizona yeah everyone's pouring sweat it's 108 degrees out raised he said raised taste buds means you're dehydrated you've been smoking weed or i live in the fucking desert or i live in arizona and i've had a cigarette look around you it's all
Starting point is 01:26:46 dirt unless i have a fucking water bottle attached to my head i'm not gonna be of course i have rice taste buds so they can literally look at anything here and arrest you and say you're fucked up at their discretion prove you're not that's what it is so uh this seattle team he goes on here it's sean alexander matt hasselbeck that whole team yeah not bad bobby ingram those guys uh the this team is seven and nine that year not terrific but uh he plays in 12 games starts one jeremy does 252 yards receiving three touchdowns who gives a shit okay so uh uh in april 2003 and a more interesting thing, he stopped in the Seattle suburb of Medina after he rolls through a stop sign. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:30 So the police go up to him and, you know, hey, sir, how you doing? And they see two open champagne bottles on the passenger side floor. Who the fuck drinks that? In the car. Right. I got to go for a drive. Let me grab a bottle of champagne for the road. You're that brute, would you?
Starting point is 01:27:43 That's all. That's normal, right? Not a flask. What let me grab a bottle of champagne for the road would you that's all that's normal right not a flask what the fuck fucking bottle of champagne he's making mimosas going down the road hey you know why not champagne cocktail bring the prosecco you pretentious fuck you douche so uh the cop asked have you been drinking and he said no of course not jesus what are you kidding me i'm a model. I play for the Seahawks. So they said, okay, do field sobriety tests. Couldn't walk a straight line or keep his balance. And then they also did a blood alcohol test.
Starting point is 01:28:14 And we don't know the exact amount, but it's somewhere between.08 and.15. Because they charged him in that range, not the higher range. So we do know that. because they charged him in that range, not the higher range. So we do know that. He eventually admitted to drinking champagne and said he'd run a stop sign because he was preoccupied fucking around with a cell phone. Hi, I'm drunk and not paying attention to the road.
Starting point is 01:28:36 I'm checking MySpace while I drink mullet. Yeah, he was talking on the cell phone. Insane. Team officials, Seattle, said they confirmed that he uh he has had since last july that's not his only one he's had six driving offenses since last july wow so yeah he's just he's not a good driver no let's take jeremy's keys away here uh he also faces a probation revocation hearing in seattle uh because he pleads guilty to reckless driving because he has to plead guilty to the reckless driving of smashing into the retirement home
Starting point is 01:29:10 so they end up uh he pleads guilty to reckless driving after they drop agreed to drop a you know higher charge here jesus christ this is the adult equivalent of when you don't spank your kid you know what i mean oh yeah not that necessarily spank, but just discipline. There's zero repercussions for their shit behavior. Right. Give boundaries. This is what happens. Yeah, I would fucking say so.
Starting point is 01:29:34 He keeps doing the same thing over and over and over again. He just doesn't care. No. He just doesn't give a shit. Well, he said, now he knows there's consequences. Remember? Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:43 They accept a sentence recommendation here for a plea of two days in jail a thousand dollar fine and a hundred hours of community service um the judge said but the judge said he needed more information to before he could do sentencing he says quote this is the judge quote mr stevens i think you may have a problem with alcohol in order to treat you fairly i don't believe i can sentence you today i owe that much to the public so now as part of his contract he may have to forfeit three hundred thousand dollars of his signing bonus after a guilty plea because that was a clause in his contract because he had problems beforehand uh coach the seahawks coach mike holmgren i think it was gm2 he said quote We're going to sit down and we'll look at that.
Starting point is 01:30:25 There's reasons why we put things in there, but we'll see. We haven't made any final decisions on those things. We'll let him keep his money. Fuck it. Stephen said, quote, I'm willing to take responsibility for it and agree to whatever it or whatever it is you require me to do. He said to the judge, his attorney, though, he said that. But then his attorney complained that the in the structure of the deal, it requires twice weekly aa meetings and they said well that conflicts with football so he can't do that so the judge said okay once a week then can he squeeze one he has a night off
Starting point is 01:30:55 right once a week will that interfere coach is that good with you is that all right with you mondays mondays can you let him out he's got Monday night football. That's okay. Oh, then that's okay. Then obviously don't bother. We'll skip that week. We'll skip that week. Jesus. So in 2003, the young lady from the school who accused him of sexual assault sued him. Good. Sues him.
Starting point is 01:31:16 Sues UW and the fraternity where she believed she'd been slipped the date rape drug. Three other women also filed lawsuits. Great. At that point, accusing UW football players of rape. Two sued a guy named Rock Alexander, who was a teammate, and the other sued Eric Shine, who was a player who came
Starting point is 01:31:33 in after Stevens left. Funny, guess who represents Stevens in the civil suit? Mike Hunzinger again. He also defended Alexander. Oh, by the way, he also represented Scheid in the criminal investigation. Yeah, I wonder how much he charged for all that. Ougatz?
Starting point is 01:31:53 Jesus Christ. A nice Seattle hoodie? Yeah. This was the same lawyer handled all of the lawsuits as well. Their lawyer, the women's lawyer, said by failing to hold Stevens accountable, she argued that UW suggested to players that they were invulnerable to charges of sexual assault. Kind of sounds like they are. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:15 That's the thing. UW, in the beginning of all this, during this suit, they said they fight to have the victims' names released. That is fucked up. That's what they want. That's to, obviously, to try to get them to drop the suit. Because this is about money now. This isn't about criminal charges and all that. This is about cash.
Starting point is 01:32:34 And they don't want to fucking have that. Now, the young lady that had the incident with Jeremy, allegedly here, she said she became extremely depressed and left uh left the university soon afterwards she said she couldn't face the possibility of seeing stevens or his friends around campus she couldn't stomach how much uw had taken no action against him let him continue to play football celebrated him uh she you know she said she uh uh went to community college for five quarters and then came back to uw after Stevens left, basically. She ended up getting it finished, but she had to go to community college to get away from him.
Starting point is 01:33:11 She said how she couldn't fathom what UW would have to gain for making her name public. She said the university knows her identity. It's not like they're trying to find out who she is. She said it can dig into her background all it wanted. This is just for public scrutiny um yeah that's it uh she didn't want any other students staring at her and whispering about her and shit like that she also feel feared physical danger from people that might be pissed off at her because they're football fans
Starting point is 01:33:38 and they're not fans are like soccer fans uh almost they're like soccer fans but they have guns right that's the fucking difference that's at least at least if you're you're fighting a Are like soccer fans almost. They're like soccer fans, but they have guns. Right. That's the fucking difference. At least if you're fighting a bunch of soccer hooligans. They have black jacks. A black jack or a fucking chain or a brass knuckle or a knife. Right.
Starting point is 01:33:55 These guys have assault rifles. Right. Fully automatic, man. And then they run away. Yeah. Crazy. We have crazy people here. It's way different.
Starting point is 01:34:03 So this young lady also wrote, I'm dismayed that the University of Washington, where I'm a student, would deliberately and needlessly make my life difficult in this manner. Well, yeah, obviously. 2003 Seahawks, they go 10-6. They go all the way to the playoffs, losing the wild card game to the Packers, 27-33. 2003 there, Jeremy plays in all 16 games, starts three, has 72 yards receiving, and zero touchdowns. Superstar. Doing
Starting point is 01:34:32 great. Spring of 2004, the lawsuit is settled. The agreement is confidential. It bars the lawyer or the young lady from disclosing the terms. He wrote a fucking check, though, for this. Yeah, he did. He absolutely did. In a letter to the attorney obtained through a public records request in this Seattle Times
Starting point is 01:34:49 article, Hunziker, though, the lawyer, his lawyer, described part of the deal. The agreement allowed University of Washington to be dismissed from the case while Stevens and the fraternity would settle. That's how it worked. The deal would also allow Stevens to avoid questions about what happened on that June night. Also, that's that it worked the deal would also allow stevens to avoid questions about what happened on that june night also that's that he won't be deposed that's also part of it um yeah uh he said he wrote this hunziger one of the elements of the settlement is that jeremy will not be required to participate in any other litigation involving the uw specifically lawsuits
Starting point is 01:35:22 filed by uh this lawyer regarding Eric Schein and Rock Alexander. He does not want to be contacted anymore, let alone deposed or testify at trial. A month later, Hunziker sent the check for $300,000 on behalf of Stevens and the fraternity. So that was the settlement there. August 2004. That's what your virginity costs. And your other things too three three hundred thousand that's that's two for one oh your dignity and your your your you know your personal
Starting point is 01:35:52 fucking safety feeling anguish and anguish and your you know your confidence in in the outside world right and you're uh you could name a hundred things of new friends. 300 grand. Oh, boy. Before legal fees and taxes. So, wonderful. Do you get taxed on settlements? I think you do. Do you? Do you? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:36:11 I've never gotten shit from anyone. Inheritance, you usually know. Inheritance, you do. I've never gotten any fucking inheritance. Well, yeah, I know. It's a $10,000 thing there, I think, isn't it? I don't know. It's like a gift.
Starting point is 01:36:21 I think inheritance. I can give you $9,999 and you don't have to pay taxes, but if I give you $10,001, you have to pay taxes. That's ridiculous. Yeah, it's like a gift i think i can give you nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine dollars you don't have to pay taxes but if i give you ten thousand one dollars you have to pay taxes that's ridiculous yeah it's stupid it's a ten thousand dollar gift limit on it's ridiculous yeah anyway that's gross so uh if she had to pay taxes on it that's extra that would be disgusting well that we want our cut of your fucking right settlement what the hell kind of shit is that from the government oh god damn it. No, sorry. I get that we're paying for roads and militaries and everything, but your ass doesn't hurt and mine does.
Starting point is 01:36:50 So you don't get a dime of this. Fuck you. August of 2004. Remember that top floor Bellevue condo? Yeah. He still lives there. His fucking neighbors hate him. Of course they do.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Oh, they hate him so much. I've never lived anywhere near him and I hate him. We'll get details later, but at this point, neighbors are starting to complain about fireworks set off from his deck, because he's on the top floor, of vomit dripping down onto them
Starting point is 01:37:16 from above. Oh, god damn it. It rains vomit from his apartment, and of course, loud parties that go deep into the night, obviously. He is awful. He's a terrible person. They had to go to court in August of 2004, from his apartment and of course loud parties that go deep into the night obviously uh he's awful he's a terrible person uh they had to go to court in august of 2004 uh and he had to because he wasn't paying his 420 monthly upkeep whatever building fees and the police kept getting called to the condo because of noise complaints but he sticks around he's a charmer this fucking guy he's a real charmer i'll tell you what this
Starting point is 01:37:45 fucking guy yeah the charming guy 2004 i'm seeing this this is ridiculous how does she show up to house is that is that vomit oh my god attractive you are a sexy man who is that your your fucking set your your dismissal of a rape charge certificate? That's great. Is that the decline letter from the prosecution? Did you just throw a handful of black cats over the balcony? That was sexy. What did you put in my drink?
Starting point is 01:38:13 So Seattle 2004, they go 9-7. They lose in the wild card round of the playoffs to the St. Louis Rams that year. Jeremy starts five games out of the 16. He plays in all 16. Actually has 31 catches for 349 yards and three touchdowns this year so makes himself a you know kind of a useful member of the team uh in 2005 uh so that's 2004 2005 seattle goes 13 and 3 right that's when they're really good they beat the redskins 20 to 1010 in the playoffs. They go to the conference championship and
Starting point is 01:38:45 beat the Carolina Panthers 34-14, and they play the Steelers in the Super Bowl. So this is their pre-Russell Wilson Super Bowl run here with Hasselbeck and Mike Holmgren and Sean Alexander. They lose this Super Bowl. Of course. 21-10 to
Starting point is 01:39:01 Roethlisberger, another guy with questionable consensual dealings here, questionable dealings of consent. So this year, 2005, he played in 16 games, started 11 of them that year, had 45 receptions, 554 yards and five touchdowns. So he really became kind of a big part of the team in 2005 and just in time to go to the Super Bowl, plays in the Super Bowl and all that shit. So he's had it better than he deserves at that point. March of 2006, he is caught driving with a suspended license
Starting point is 01:39:38 and prosecutors say they'd forego, no charges if you enroll in a relicensing program. We know you don't have a license. So one one month later caught again driving without a license here he didn't go get it no it's like why i'm driving now did you arrest me then why would i fucking do anything about it you said don't worry about it i went okay kept driving well i don't care so uh caught again this time though he's convicted of a misdemeanor and he's sentenced to 90 days in jail. All suspended. But he's supposed to stay out of trouble for a year.
Starting point is 01:40:13 That's part of it. Now, 2000, the only time he's done is three weeks for failing a weed test. He has allegedly raped. He stomped a man's fucking head. He's almost killed an old lady. And the only thing he's gone to jail for is not even having weed having had smoked weed in the last few days at some point at some point that's the old that's that's that's how our society is set up just while he's on the tether uh 2006 seattle they go nine and seven they actually beat dallas 21 20 in the wild card round
Starting point is 01:40:42 and then lose to the bears 27 24 Playing some close games there in the playoffs. And the Bears went and lost to the Colts. Yeah, and that was Peyton Manning's Super Bowl there. Jeremy plays in 11 games, has 22 receptions, 231 yards, and four touchdowns that year. And that is his free agent year. Okay, so that's the end of his five-year deal with Seattle. This is a big one. March 2007, he is a free agent becomes a free agent this is when he's gonna he's got to put
Starting point is 01:41:10 all that craziness behind him he's gotta go get a deal he's gonna hook it up um go market your rape settling ass out that's what i mean out there go out there smile yeah hug some babies don't do anything bad now go too far don't fuck up now you have no deal uh 11 days after he becomes a free agent he's on the market for 11 days he stopped at 2 a.m this is a specialty of jeremy uh by a police officer where scottsdale arizona what so they're not going to be good no yeah uh his car had drifted over the lane marker three times he was alone uh he wasn't wearing a seat belt his eyes were bloodshot and his speech was slurred how many champagne bottles well uh he the officer said a little drink tonight and he said
Starting point is 01:41:53 add a little to drink the officer said how much and he said quote four or five margaritas nope i don't know how many that nope that That's too many. Too many. Yeah. Yeah. Four margaritas is too many margaritas to drive with. You are definitely over the limit there. And five? Yeah. That's way past it. You're done. I'm either drunk or far too drunk.
Starting point is 01:42:15 Yeah. I'm either fine, feeling good, or I'm just getting sleepy. So as he got out of the car, the officer asked him to get out of the car. He dropped his cell phone and his wallet on the street. That's a drunk man. That's a drunk man. Oh, I dropped my stuff. Then they asked him to do the walk and turn
Starting point is 01:42:34 to come back to me, and he stumbled and almost fell. He had to catch himself on a car. He's a fucking asshole. Shit-faced. Blood alcohol this day,.204. What? Real drunk.
Starting point is 01:42:49 Did he fucking butt-chug those margaritas in a row? That's a lot of margaritas. He drank them through an IV while he was driving. Five doesn't do that. Point, no. Fuck it. Four, imagine if someone says they've had, we've talked about live PD. He said 15.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Two beers means five three beers means twelve four or five margaritas means I don't even fucking remember I drank so much I don't know I think it was blue at one point the liquid and then it changed color to something I don't know what happened but I'm drunk
Starting point is 01:43:19 he burped and tasted it and goes I think those were margaritas I think it tastes salt I'd say salt and sour it's gotta be that tasted it and goes, I think those were margaritas. I think. It tastes salt. I'd say salt and sour. It's got to be that. It's a margarita. It's two and a half times the legal limit.
Starting point is 01:43:32 That is a lot. And that is going to cost him a shitload of money. Never mind legal fees and everything else. That is going to cost him a fucking fortune in free agency. Yeah. Because that makes him don't want to take a risk on that. You're not going to give that guy a four-year deal. He keeps getting arrested. He could say could say hey that's all behind me now and besides this happening right that's the problem here uh so this uh he's ends up being
Starting point is 01:43:53 convicted also possession of marijuana oh he was at that he had weed on him too also a felony in maricopa county not great uh he's they dropped that charge though he's convicted of extreme dui which is a mandatory minimum you sir yeah may fuck off uh 30 days in jail for jeremy there not suspended anything but uh-huh judge they do 10 fucking days judge instead gives him 12 days in jail suspending the other 18 because he enrolled in the NFL substance abuse program. I don't care about whether he's fucked up or not at this point. It's just you're doing stupid shit, and we can't have you around anymore, you dumb twat fuck. He got 12 days?
Starting point is 01:44:34 12 days. For an extreme DUI. So still, the longest time he spent in jail up to this point is three weeks. For smoking weed? Smoking weed before at some point and having it just in his blood not could have killed someone could have killed an old lady maybe raped a girl did all all this shit weed three weeks crazy so anyway yeah he's he's he's got to take stock at this point for the love of shit. Think about it.
Starting point is 01:45:07 What's he going to do? I don't know, man. I mean, he just lost himself millions of dollars. Imagine doing that, how dumb you would feel. I can't imagine. Millions of dollars. Yeah. You'd almost, like, I could see a guy thinking, I could snap this cop's neck and just drive away and not do this.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Because it's millions of dollars. It's not just like, oh, I don't feel like doing that. You're talking millions here. So it's crazy. He's got to get his life together. He says he's got to stop drinking. He's got to start changing his ways. He's got to.
Starting point is 01:45:35 He has to. He's got to show everybody what he's doing, too. And he does. And he's asking around a little bit. He's like, what do you guys think? Because there's other football players and trying to find out uh health things they do with things coach life coach other players maybe it's like a mentor hey how you quit drinking how did that work for you the health stuff did you get back in shape better to do all that and one man has the answers for
Starting point is 01:45:59 him only one though and they're good answers though and's Adam, the arugula connoisseur Pac-Man Jones. And he says, I don't have any music for him, as we know, so we go right into there. So I don't need any music. How is it you've come to arrive here? I don't understand it because you're a fine young man from what I've seen. I don't understand why the system is going to put you on trial for the desires of a young lady. This is ridiculous. I think you were a gentleman, personally.
Starting point is 01:46:27 You took her at least behind a bush. You saw another person was watching, and you said, you know what? This young lady's dignified. I'm not going to let people just watch her. You took her into the arugula patch. Indelecto flagrante. I'm not going to do that.
Starting point is 01:46:42 I took her into over here. What you need, what I'm getting at, sir, is if you want to turn your life around, may I recommend arugula? I have a fine organic supply that I can turn you on to. It's excellent. It stops the raping. I'll tell you that right now. It's good. You're going to love it.
Starting point is 01:46:57 But I think you're an innocent fella, and I think your misunderstanding's all around, and let's have some champagne. And poof! And a poof of a of arugula and arrest warrants and airport popeye's chicken he's gone louisiana hot sauce and jeremy's like what the hell what the fuck was that i know that he tried to take my head off going over the middle last week what the fuck's he trying to help me for whatever the other night i watched um my blue heaven yeah in the arugula it's a vegetable i had to stop the movie dying laughing it's a vegetable it's the best pussy mob movie ever written it's so good mob movie written by nora efron so it's not going to be
Starting point is 01:47:39 real edgy or it's not it's so good there's nobody's head in a vice or anything like that but it's funny and i'm dying laughing good shit so what ends up happening tampa ends up signing him really they sign him but they get him at a huge discount they sign him for a one-year deal for 600 grand which is five thousand dollars above the minimum salary for his experience discount fucking destroyed him. Their general manager said, quote, he is a big, powerful, speedy tight end. He has some off-the-field issues that have hampered him a bit. We've had a very serious talk with him today.
Starting point is 01:48:15 I think Jeremy Stevens is a good young man. You just talk to him. I just want to assure myself. Yeah, and the coach Mike Holmgren had vouched for him and this uh you know in seattle he's actually a good guy and uh the the general manager here said sometimes you have to give people a chance god knows he hasn't gotten any yet and now he gets one christ if only if only someone would give him a chance that's the thing he's just he's held down so far so uh uh yeah they said that he's his issues are under control he's gonna be great everything's fine he has to leave his bellevue condo to move
Starting point is 01:48:53 to tampa yeah and uh this is the neighbors are like the witch is dead finally like type of thing the puke person said they found woke up woke up multiple multiple times to find their deck splattered with vomit dripping down from above. Oh, it's so gross. Another found used condoms on their porch that were just thrown down from a deck. What is that? Oh, that's vile. I'll just throw it over the side.
Starting point is 01:49:17 What? No. Throw it off the patio. Don't flush that. As David Cross said in a joke when he found a used condom in the middle of the street in New York City. He's like, the middle of the street? I got to get in there right now?
Starting point is 01:49:30 And he goes, what the hell kind of... Maybe it's some sort of urban Johnny Appleseed. The words urban Johnny Appleseed. Fit this well. Thank you, David Cross. That's also the most... It's a great show the the most uh i have nothing to hide man on earth who just casually flings his semen around town there we
Starting point is 01:49:53 go right off the side has never cared about anything he's ever done confidence that's a confident man i've james i've raped, and I am not throwing my seed anywhere. Well, who knows whose condoms they were? He's having parties. That's a great point. People reported being awoken at 3 o'clock in the morning by music or loud fights going on. Others were startled by strangers who would show up on their patios, climb down to their patio. How's it going?
Starting point is 01:50:22 From the top floor. Crazy. I feel like his friends scale buildings yeah well he's only the fifth floor it's only a five-story building so it's not like still 50 feet you're gonna fly gonna kill yourself uh so they said they were all scared of him because he was huge in a nut case yeah so they just kind of stayed away the uh uh they called him to a meeting to discuss complaints about against him and uh all that sort of shit but they decide that uh they said at the condo board quote if he does not show up we'll give him one
Starting point is 01:50:51 more chance to respond he needs if only someone just one more chance give him more chance uh yeah they said the illegal fireworks showering other units with debris takes up two spaces and a lot reserved for the building's retail shops, with his car. He gives the building security code to friends who walk in at all hours. The manager here said, Stevens just seems to ignore authority.
Starting point is 01:51:15 I'm not bothered by him, but I do know a number of residents are afraid. One said, if Stevens gets on the elevator, he will get off. Jesus Christ. And the guy said said this is what the resident said about that quote it's not because he's black which is great it's not because he's black it's because he's a big guy and he has a terrible history and everybody knows it yeah fair
Starting point is 01:51:37 fair i'm not racist that's the only sentence that's ever been not racist it started with i'm not racist it's not because he's black he's like he's a fucking asshole that's why been not racist started with I'm not racist. It's not because he's black. He's like he's a fucking asshole. That's why which I don't care what color you are. Be afraid of this man. Right. Doesn't matter. That's like qualifying any statement you're about to say about OJ Simpson. I'm not racist. I'm not racist. But that guy
Starting point is 01:51:58 sucks. But OJ's a murderer right? So another on January 28th of that year people had called to report noises coming from his unit the first call came at 3 40 a.m uh yelling screaming is what the police log says a fight between two males when they arrived the police it was over by then and neighbors said uh no one the neighbors hadn't heard anything and no one inside would answer the door uh the building manager says the police have been called called several times
Starting point is 01:52:25 but he says quote if they don't have a search warrant they can't do anything they don't have you don't have to answer the door unless they have a legal thing saying you have to answer the door you don't fucking have to yeah so i mean we go get a warrant if you want to come back and i'll open the fucking door otherwise eat shit otherwise i can just have this conversation through wood yeah or you can just open the door and not be an asshole one of the two that's a good one so either one so the condo board fined him a bunch of times but they're like 500 he said quote uh the building manager but you know the guy's got a lot of money it's chump change to him um so they're trying to kick him out of the building now they said he's been that one of the residents said quote he's been gone for a month now and it's been like a vacation for all of us so he's finally gone so the witch is dead everybody 2007 in september uh by the way we're going to get into
Starting point is 01:53:12 uh uh hope solo a little bit because they're going to meet pretty soon she says something hilarious they let uh her mentor who was brianna scurry uh who was 36 at the time. They let her, in 2007, play goal in the World Cup in China, and the team lost 4-0 to Brazil. What did Hope say? Hope said, quote, There's no doubt in my mind I would have made those saves. And they kicked her off the team. They let her back on.
Starting point is 01:53:40 I could have done that. I could have done that. She just sucks. Tampa, he goes to Tampa, does Jeremy. This is the Jeff Garcia box. let her back on but i could have done that i could have done that she just sucks yeah uh tampa he goes to tampa does uh jeremy this is the jeff garcia uh bucks yeah luke mccown brad gradkowski trio of quarterbacks um 2007 they go nine and seven go to the playoffs they won nine games with that horse shit nine games and lost in the wild card round of the giants that year who went on to beat the patriots and ruin their ruin their undefeated season god that was glorious 14 wins and one giant loss
Starting point is 01:54:09 beautiful 14 18 17 18 i thought it was 19 and i would be the 16 18 wins and one giant loss that's the statement so uh he plays 14 games for tampa only has 18 uh this year only has 18 receptions four touchdowns whatever not too bad 2008 in june he suspended two games and fined three checks after violating the nfl substance abuse policy testing positive for something uh 2008 he also played in 15 games and caught 36 passes for 397 yards and two touchdowns. Decent year there. 2009, Tampa, he plays in 16 games, starts eight, has 15 receptions, 130 yards, and only one touchdown. Not wonderful. October of 2010, the 2010 season, once that's over with, or once that's just after it starts, he's released by the
Starting point is 01:55:06 Bucks. Why, you wonder? Well, it's because he was arrested for possession of marijuana. He was pulled over in his pickup truck for loud music and an officer smelled weed inside the vehicle, of course, and
Starting point is 01:55:21 they pulled him out, searched him. He had 38 grams of weed on him. That's a lot. That's over an ounce. That's a good bit. Almost an ounce and a half. Between a quarter ounce and a quarter and an ounce and a half. Certainly a felony in Florida. It's a lot. It's a good amount of weed. I mean, it's a decent sack of weed. It's not like he had...
Starting point is 01:55:37 It's not trafficking. I mean, he wasn't going to go sell it or anything. That was just for his house. But whatever. He still knew he... I assume knew that was against the law in Florida. He's taken to jail and charged with possession of marijuana with intent to sell. That's the bullshit. Because it's 38 grams. He's not selling weed.
Starting point is 01:55:54 No. I mean, unless he had it bagged up in fucking dime bags or something. Unless he's already moved several pounds of bricks and that's all he's got left. Yeah. That's just for his pocket, this guy. He's a huge guy it's it's pocket weed and also possession of drug paraphernalia but it's good enough to get him released after only five games that year by the bucks really uh five games 43 yards three
Starting point is 01:56:16 receptions no touchdowns shit can they've had enough of them they've had enough of them and no one else wants to touch him uh-huh keeps getting arrested can't be trusted he's a problem he's a problem they He's a problem. They don't pick him up. That is the end of his pro football career right there. Really? Career, 121 games, 41 games started, 202 receptions, 2,217 yards, and 22 touchdowns. It's not great.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Is it? No. I mean, the 22 touchdowns is pretty impressive. It's not great, but yeah, it wasn't a spectacular career. But at this point is when he meets Hope Solo again and starts hooking up with her. So him and Hope Solo start hooking up. If you don't know who Hope Solo is, she is, like we said, the U.S. national team's female team's soccer goalie for years and years.
Starting point is 01:57:00 Excessively famous. She's been on TV shows. She's on the cover of every fucking magazine. She's sellable because she's pretty. She's she's an athlete she's a winner and she's got a you know she's great at what she does great at what she does very sellable here and i don't know what the fuck she wants with this asshole this is crazy to me other than physically they match up because they're both like large athletic a drunk bodyguard maybe uh well she she does plenty of drinking on her own i think think, here.
Starting point is 01:57:32 So they got together for a little while, and she said that finally one night they were out to dinner in 2011 in Los Angeles. And I guess this is the night that Jeremy told her that he loved her. And she says, quote, I didn't know what to say, so I said, fuck you, and we didn't talk for a year. What? Okay. She seems to be the perfect girl for him let's just say they go together perfectly that's a very strange answer neither of them make sense apparently uh so right after that i don't know if he was still his heart was hurting from that uh he's arrested in 2011 for attacking two bouncers in a flor bar. It's a felony battery charge. His bail was set at $2,500, and he was released from jail.
Starting point is 01:58:09 Stevens was at Duke's Retired Surfer's Island Bar. That sounds so Florida. How Florida does that sound? Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. There's a sand beach out back. It's not even near the beach. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:58:24 No, that's what I mean. It's inland, but it's got sand beach out back. No one has a... It's not even near the beach. No. You know what I mean? No, that's what I mean. It's inland, but it's got sand everywhere. Yeah, no one has a covered shoe in the whole place. Everyone is... A shoe? You think they've got a shoe on? I think they have a policy. They're just wandering around in sand in there.
Starting point is 01:58:36 No shit. Well, at about 8 p.m. that night, he becomes unruly and was asked to leave by bouncers. 8 p.m. He's already unruly. He refused, police say say and he punched two of them he's been doing some day drinking i think so william donald russell 23 and vincent jordan 35 who then uh who then held him on the ground until officers arrived and one of the guys had a broken jaw oh so yeah he likes to punch and hit people here so uh stevens though who uh stevens attorney mark o'brien released a
Starting point is 01:59:05 statement that portrayed him as the victim who was attacked o'brien said stevens had to be treated at a hospital after his release from jail where he received treatment for several or multiple broken ribs and extensive bruising to his body and face um and uh he said that the medical reports will show that these wounds are defensive in nature wow we we are confident that when the once the dust settles everyone will realize that not only is mr stevens innocent but more importantly the wrong person was arrested that's wow okay sure yeah that's fits uh fall of 2012 he's dating hope solo again and they're getting very very close um by the way i found some stuff that i found interesting that i you don't know too much about
Starting point is 01:59:50 but hope solo wrote a book and it has tons of shit about like uh olympic hijinks and oh really all the crazy shit that goes on in the olympic village i have heard it's nuts there yeah well she said that she said that she was she fucked some famous guy there in the book, but she wouldn't say who it was. She said it was her Olympic secret. Oh. But she also said that she was hanging out with Vince Vaughn a lot there, so maybe she's banging Vince Vaughn. Back then, he was still not all weird and saggy. Oh, he was weird.
Starting point is 02:00:18 Not saggy. Just not appearance-wise. Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. He's a strange man. Oh, yeah. yeah yeah that's what i mean he's a strange man oh yeah so uh she uh she said that they part she said that uh when they went to the uh today show they had partied all night long and were all still drunk when they showed up to the today show the whole soccer team she said quote when we were done partying we got out of our nice dresses got back into our stadium coats and at 7 a.m with no sleep
Starting point is 02:00:42 went on the today show drunk needless to say we look like hell that would be awesome that's what they did what a story fucking hilarious i love that and uh yeah but they said that this article they said that they looked up the video and they didn't look that trashed or anything which i assume they know how to yeah put it on a little mask yeah they have to do it plus the adrenaline yeah of i'm on the today show this is live. That'll sober you up quick. Quick. Real fast. Especially if you're not hammered, you're just teetering out.
Starting point is 02:01:12 Oh, boy. She also described the Olympic Village as basically just a hedonistic sex parlor. It's a fuck fest. That's all it was. In Salt Lake, James, they ran out of condoms. Well, here, the 2000 Olympics, there was a British reporter said that reveals that organizers supplied 70,000 condoms to the 2000 Olympics. That was in Sydney? Sydney, yeah. 70,000.
Starting point is 02:01:34 That's a lot. That's a shitload of them. And weirdly enough, over half of those ended up on the deck below Jeremy Stevens' condo. Disgusting. Just disgusting. She also said, quote, I've seen people having sex right out in the open on the grass between buildings.
Starting point is 02:01:51 People are getting down and dirty. It's just, look at all of us. We're athletic and attractive and young. We need to fuck each other. We're all attractive. Look at us. Holy shit. This is great.
Starting point is 02:02:05 Imagine how amazing that is. I love that she's just so free. She's great. She doesn't care. She's so fun. She's September 2012. They were dating. This is they just reconciled from the I love you fiasco.
Starting point is 02:02:18 And they'd been dating for about two months at the time, like heavy and hard dating, like really hanging out together. She said, quote, Hope says, I know people probably think we party all the time, but we don't really go out that much. And when we do, we end up going to like the movies. We're pretty boring people. Well, they also go to jail, as we'll find out here, because November 12th, 2012, they're going to have a little party, a little party at their house.
Starting point is 02:02:43 Why are they having a party? Because they're getting married the next day. boy they're getting married on his birthday on november 13th they're going to go get married which i know from experience is a terrible day to get married stupid first wedding was on that day november 13th it doesn't work out so anyway friday also james i don't know they're having a little party they plan to marry the next day okay that's what's going on here. Okay. So, obviously, police in Kirkland respond to a disturbance at the home at about 345 a.m. They're having a party, Jimmy. There's going to be police involvement.
Starting point is 02:03:13 This is in Florida? This is in Washington. Okay. So, the police believe it's a physical altercation between eight people during a party. Oh. Okay. Toward the beginning of the 911 call it is uh her brother marcus hope's brother marcus solo is on the phone explaining to the dispatcher that
Starting point is 02:03:32 there was a physical altercation inside the home and that a woman was thrown to the ground and may have injured her hip he also says that a stun gun was used during the melee by somebody and that an innocent bystander as he put it was hurt somebody's got a random stun gun i guess they asked him the dispatcher said who was the person who was the instigator and marcus replied quote we won't go there please get here yeah he wouldn't answer so uh toward the end of the phone call hope solo can be heard in the background lecturing about how her husband jeremy is going to go to jail now because he's on probation so stop calling the police and telling them his
Starting point is 02:04:10 shit because jeremy's a lot thanks for telling him about it telling them about this uh yeah officers uh contacted several people in the home who appeared intoxicated and would not cooperate with police but determined based on information and observations that there was probable cause to arrest Jeremy Stevens for investigation of fourth degree assault. Now, the court records show that Solo was the victim who had a cut on her elbow and a bruise on her hip. Silly headless girl. Well, we don't know.
Starting point is 02:04:38 Court documents show that it's her brother that called, like we and uh marcus told police he used marcus solo the brother used a stun gun on one of the men basically afterwards once everything gets settled marcus goes it was two people that came in here and broke stuff up and i had to stun gun one of them and then they ran away i never saw him before i just came to this party that only has like eight other people at it at my brother and sister's house. Yeah, my brother and sister. So according to the court documents, though, police followed the smell of marijuana up a staircase and into a bedroom where they found Stevens, who, quote, appeared to be hiding, lying in between the bed and the wall in an upstairs bedroom.
Starting point is 02:05:21 Stevens told officers he was sleeping on the floor and didn't hear the fight. There's a bed here, but I like to wedge myself between the wall and the bed do you see how big i am it's more comfortable that way i can't sleep on the bed it's it's too i like to i like to lay right here and it locks me in it feels like i'm tucked in what's reverse claustrophobia because i got that i need to be tight uh they didn't buy that. No. And especially because they saw that he had dried blood on his shirt. They're like, come on, bro. Like, you know, and he's clearly the room smoky. Like he's now.
Starting point is 02:05:55 So they they arrest Stevens based on him on his admission that he had argued with Hope as well. They got that much out of her. And the injury to her elbow and the signs of a fight in the bedroom where he was found and blood on his shirt. So they said, that's good for an arrest. Good enough for us. In the report, too, Stevens tells police that he and Solo
Starting point is 02:06:16 had been arguing over whether they would live in Washington or Florida once they got married. So they wrestled about it. Yeah, so let's have a melee. Now, Hope says, quote, we thought everyone could just be happy for us. It was dumb. I don't know what that means. She said to our two asshole brothers basically get into this argument when police arrived
Starting point is 02:06:36 and they saw her and that's all it was. So they blamed it on Jeremy and she wasn't beat up at all. It's ridiculous. Yeah. So he is not charged the next day, as we'll wasn't beat up at all it's ridiculous um yeah uh so he is not charged the next day as we'll talk about not at all stays goes for a couple hours in jail the next day the judge rules that there's no evidence connecting him to the assault regardless of the blood on his shirt shit like that uh kirkland police said it's still under investigation charges could be brought
Starting point is 02:07:01 up later stevens was released without charges and uh solo called it quote the most triumphant day stevens lawyer says quote the issue here is whether the crime was committed and the answer is no no crime was committed she was not assaulted by him perhaps he doesn't get a fair shake because people look at the past history whatever it is and reach conclusions that they shouldn't reach i I'm going to go out on a limb. He has definitely got a fair shake. Always. Oh, my God. More than a fair shake.
Starting point is 02:07:30 Overly fair. Overly fair. They've been, you know what? There's been, she's right. There's been zero fair. It's been all in the favor of him. It's all, yeah. Not fair at all.
Starting point is 02:07:40 They should make it fair soon. They should make it a little more fair for this asshole. So after that, they go from the courthouse to another part of the courthouse and get married. Oh, my God. Let's get married here. She says after that, quote, My life is great. My life is happy. It's unfortunate what the media can do to judge before the facts are out there.
Starting point is 02:07:59 It's hard to see, but it's a hard truth, and it's part of life. I'm happy. I'm happily married. I would never stand for domestic violence. I've never been hit in my life. Let's hope not. Hope Solo said that? She said that.
Starting point is 02:08:09 Let's hope not. All right. I hope not. Nobody wants to be hit here. So two weeks later, Stevens is arrested on investigation of violating his probation in Hillsborough County. He's serving probation for the conviction of marijuana and uh he was arrested uh for that which they're trying to see if that is uh the domestic violence is a
Starting point is 02:08:31 violation of his probation not supposed to be getting arrested at all um so hope solo said quote i feel bad for all the ignorance in the world people are so quick to judge the media spins stories in such a dramatic fashion i will continue to show love and never make judgments i am blessed with true love in the beautiful game of soccer i wish everybody the same happiness yeah honestly i mean poor hope poor jeremy poor jeremy let's be honest here if if there's ever a man who hasn't gotten a fair shade i know it's jeremy i mean never mind those other people you can't feel bad for women who may or may not have been assaulted or people who were just sleeping in their bed. She had to come and sleep in her bed, 92 years old.
Starting point is 02:09:10 What are you doing sleeping on an outside wall by a road? Of course someone's going to run into you. I feel bad for the guy with the cancer-stricken son, though. Yeah, but not nearly as bad as I feel for Jeremy Stevens. No way. Global sales and marketing director in London, England. Hevens no way global sales and marketing director in london england he's a highly experienced sales and marketing director is it jeremy it's not jeremy it's there's nobody else it's jeremy uh jeremy but still it auto-corrects to this jeremy and then you get
Starting point is 02:09:36 these people poor bastards jeremy stevens anti-money laundering analyst at credit sweecy i don't know what that is. In Asheville, North Carolina. He was a cum laude honors graduate. Really? From his college. Look at that guy. Big deal. Jeremy Stevens, precast concrete specialist at GCP Applied Technologies in Denver there.
Starting point is 02:09:59 Good for him. Jeremy Stevens, senior manager of engineering at Verizon Communications in Tulsa. What? And finally, Jeremy Stevens, athletic trainer. I hate anybody. That's the poor bastard. That's the guy. At Orthopedic Associates of Lancaster in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, too.
Starting point is 02:10:17 So it's not great at all. So June 24, 2014 comes around, and Hope Solo gets arrested. Oh? Yes. She was combative with officers after her uh arrest they said also she's she ends up being described as the primary aggressor here she's going to face two misdemeanor counts of domestic violence for an altercation at her half sister's house and uh let's talk about this she seems like a bad bitch uh yeah she says uh she did an there was an interview and there's uh depositions and everything uh basically other people said that
Starting point is 02:10:52 she had been drinking hope she arrived at the home of her half-sister theresa and was the aggressor in an altercation including slamming a teenager's head into the floor oh we can't do that uh the report says she was so combative after her arrest that she had to be forced to the ground by police after she insulted the officers. She suggested also, once she got to jail, that she yelled and screamed, suggested that the two jailers were having sex with each other,
Starting point is 02:11:18 and called another officer a, quote, 14-year-old boy. What is she doing? She's a party yeah when she's drunk she's fun yep when asked to remove a necklace she was wearing solo told the officer that the piece of jewelry was quote worth more than he made in a year wow you get you going there she's yeah oh man that's fucked up i didn't play soccer yeah asshole yeah so uh now solo's lawyer said quote police reports and other court documents clearly demonstrate the alleged victims radically changed their stories on multiple occasions and twice refused to answer
Starting point is 02:11:54 questions under oath despite court orders had the case proceeded to trial and witnesses been cross-examined under the oath subject to the penalty of perjury the defense would have been would have proven that theresa's son not Hope, was the true aggressor, and that Hope suffered a concussion as a result of her nephew's unlawful conduct. This poor girl. A teenager beat the shit out of her. Yes, so let's find out exactly what happened here. Stevens didn't come here.
Starting point is 02:12:18 No. He wasn't there. Oh, thank God. The kid would have been dead. Solos have to get ready to throw him through the wall like the Kool-Aid man. There has been a cutout of him. Or at minimum gotten a nasty email about what should have been done yeah i was should have fucked you in the ass young man jesus christ this is at solos half sister's house in kirkland officers were called to handle a woman who was said to be quote going
Starting point is 02:12:42 crazy and hitting people that would be hope uh the nephew claimed quote we just let her back into our lives she always does this so that's why we kicked her out in the first place by the way hope solo has a fucked up origin story her childhood is not great this is not great it's a bit of a disaster so you can see her on the outside and see this polished you know on the today show and this sports star and all this type of shit but it's that's miserable that that's the that's the sheen on it because it's women's soccer so there's no like oh these women's soccer players always getting arrested that that doesn't exist with them that right that image so it doesn't go together but yeah hope hope really holds it together better than you think she would ham and me a ham there you go hey jimmy took me three hours pow take that and the other one is robin
Starting point is 02:13:34 something yeah that makes sense someone's name is debbie i don't know but that's like we don't know anything about them we know their name and we know what they've done at the pinnacle. They very rarely dig in and tell you how they got to where they are. That's the truth. By the way, Hope's Italian as well. That seems right. I've seen her naked. I feel bad for her.
Starting point is 02:13:59 She's been drinking. She'd been drinking. She came without Jeremy Stevens because she uh she said quote he was being a jerk because he had refused to drive her to the airport the next day he didn't want to he said so she came without him drunk so uh solo and apparently her teen uh uh jesus christ yeah their teen uh nephew yeah uh got in an argument. The nephew tells police, quote, I then told her to get her cunt face out of my house.
Starting point is 02:14:30 Very Italian. Get your cunt face out of my fucking house. But they're in Washington. You got a cunt face. Look at you. You cunt face. Get out of here. So, allegedly here, everybody said Hope then called him a pussy and punched and tackled
Starting point is 02:14:51 him, saying he was crazy and a, quote, fat pig. They are just slinging him. And then she allegedly attacked his mom and punched her when she tried to step in the middle of it. The nephew. And oh, my God. Oh, my God. Jesus. attacked his mom and punched her when she tried to step in the middle of it uh the nephew and oh my god this is so white trash it's not even funny so she tackles her nephew she's beating him on the ground you fat pig you had to cut face out of my house they're arguing with each other his his mother steps in to go hey it's her half sister hey let's stop this hope gets off of him socks her a good
Starting point is 02:15:28 one yeah while she's turning around socking her half sister the nephew picks up a broomstick and whacks hope on the back of the head with it wow this is fucking amazing yeah okay so clubs her on the back of the head with a wooden broomstick and tried to get her to leave by pointing not a gun at her a broken bb gun a broken it was a bread didn't even fire bb's get out okay uh she then as put by other witnesses began circling him he said quote cornering me like a shark wow jesus christ like stalking him like a tiger she then allegedly left the house, walked out of the property, then jumped a fence and came back in the house after they locked it, jumped the fence, reentered, and attacked her sister again.
Starting point is 02:16:15 Unbelievable. Okay. Pictures of her sister and nephew were taken after the fight to show scratches, abrasions, and red spots on the arms, hands, neck and head of the mother and son. Just all this shit here. Apparently, they've had a sibling rivalry here. Jesus Christ. This is a nice Mother's Day.
Starting point is 02:16:36 Yeah. She said she often fought with her brother Marcus there. She says, quote, I called him fat and stupid and whatever other cruel things I could think of. I guess she was a freshman when he was a senior. So they didn't get along. He was often, quote, fighting, drinking, driving under the influence as a teen. And she says she did some of the same. This is from her book.
Starting point is 02:16:57 Actually, she says she was 17 when her then boyfriend got pulled over for drinking. But it was not it wasn't her. It wasn't him. It was her drinking. And they were let go and if school officials uh heard about it and suspended her from the basketball team for it and uh and this was the same day that she signed a letter of intent to play soccer so she's celebrating her letter of intent right by doing by getting kicked off the high school basketball
Starting point is 02:17:20 team and she says quote it was the first time I realized that by excelling, I could become a target. No. Or. When you fuck up, there are consequences. I love these people who always say this sort of shit to do what they do as a not them and see what happens. Hope, why don't you do that as a fucking receptionist?
Starting point is 02:17:40 Yeah, Jeremy Stevens is so persecuted. Do whatever you do while you make 33 grand a year can't afford a fucking lawyer nobody cares to help you there's no political pressure coming from anywhere you're just an asshole who's another number that they what then right yeah i could become i realized that by excelling i could become a target hope are you trying to say that the overcrowded prisons are all fucking athletes and successful? My God, they're also successful. They're targeted. Crazy claim. Weird.
Starting point is 02:18:09 Jesus Christ. She's booked into jail on investigation of two counts of fourth degree domestic assault. And yeah, Jesus Christ. The soccer team says we're going to talk to her and see if we're going to suspend her here. Jeremy Stevens, though, he defends her just totally, 100%. Yeah, because she's still got a career and earning power. He called the domestic violence, he called this whole thing, he said it was, quote, a
Starting point is 02:18:32 witch hunt and unpatriotic because she's on the soccer team. He literally said it's unpatriotic for them to go after her. How dare you? How dare you? Unpatriotic. Wow. I've only heard one other person try to pull that horse shit when they were in trouble. It worked for them, too. So, unpatriotic wow i've only heard one other person try to pull that horse shit when they were in trouble it worked for them too so unpatriotic oh i don't know who was that i
Starting point is 02:18:52 don't know who was that how did when did that just happen didn't somebody just get in trouble and call the entire oh yeah entire thing yeah i think so i was like wait what possible got it it works though apparently unpatriotic anybody out there if you're like you go to a bar tonight you're drinking you get pulled over if the cop pulls you ever call them unpatriotic just see if it works down right give it a shot works for her i don't know uh stephen said that uh uh he said quote it's a witch hunt uh-huh and it's unpatriotic you can put that in the paper this fucking you can put that in your fake newspaper he might as well fucking said jesus christ put on your fake news yeah that's amazing uh he said he was adamant that solo had been unfairly treated and was
Starting point is 02:19:37 innocent of the allegations she he says quote it's not hard for me because i know hope can handle it i think that what's hard is that she's the victim of something that was really scary and a really unfortunate incident. She's being classified even remotely close to Ray Rice and these other domestic violence incidents is ridiculous and outright wrong. This part is difficult, but Hope is the strongest person I've ever known and she'll be all right. I think that right now, from my perspective, everyone is trying to dissect hope, trying to figure out what makes her tick. Nobody likes to feel like a science experiment. She's just out there doing the best she can
Starting point is 02:20:11 to be the best person she can be. And I'm just here to try to support her. I feel as she'll continue to play well. She doesn't need to defend herself. She's in the right. I think that gives her strength because she doesn't feel like she's done anything wrong. And it's just unfortunate
Starting point is 02:20:24 because they've made an issue of something and there was no new information presented. None whatsoever. People put females in a box and they want them to stay there and look pretty. Hope refuses to be put in that box. She wants to be treated as an equal. That's not the case as we can see it. No, that is the case. If you're a woman and you beat the shit out of people, you also get away for domestic violence that's super equal it's equal really equal but uh yeah apparently he was
Starting point is 02:20:51 super pissed i love that in the paper he said people want girls to be pretty not hope not hope she's not gonna take that i won't let her do it i mean shit damn it never mind and also she hits him on the arm. Thanks, dick. The strongest person you know probably shouldn't be punching people. No. Then there was an outside the lines report, which was released the day before the national team's opening match about this whole thing. Jeremy called it, quote, nothing less than unpatriotic. Low class.
Starting point is 02:21:21 Low class. It was super intentional. I don't know what their issue is personally with hope but it definitely feels like they have one he sounded like a 14 year old girl i don't know what their issue is with heather but it totally sounds like she has one and if she wants to meet her in the cafeteria fifth period we're gonna fucking talk about it we can sit down we'll do the cable something this bitch is clearly obsessed she's obsessed with her she's just she's thirsty she's a thirsty bitch that's what it's a thirsty bitch fuck her fuck her tell her to get her cunt face out of your fucking house next time
Starting point is 02:21:48 what a pussy pussy so uh august by the way no charges there'll be charges filed they'll be dismissed and then the prosecutors uh mount an appeal to refile their refile this goes all the way for four years to the washington state supreme court over whether they could file charges against her or not nothing ever ends up coming of it august 2014 solo actually is the victim of something here uh this is the iCloud leak of celebrity celebrity photos i feel so bad for this this is bullshit yeah you don't do this i've seen this it's terrible people yeah pictures were leaked online. Yeah, she said, quote, this act goes beyond the bounds of human decency.
Starting point is 02:22:28 I agree. It was over 100 people, a lot of A-list celebrities, or kind of A-minus list, whatever. They caught the guy, right? Yeah, they did. It was Jennifer Lawrence, Kate Upton, Justin Verlander, people like that. That other blonde chick. Kirsten Dunst, the one from the Big Bang Theory there, her on there. People like that. And then there was ones that they denied that were real.
Starting point is 02:22:52 Right. Ariana Grande. It's hard not to. Yeah. But Hope's was just horribly sad because it was so close up and it was like, Jesus, man, you're looking at her cervix, for Christ's sake. Yeah. Olympic gymnast Michaela Maroney initially denied the image's authenticity on Twitter,
Starting point is 02:23:11 then confirmed the photos were legitimate while also stating that she was underage when they were taken. So you're also all been looking at a young age girl. You sick fucks. You sick fucks. And they're like, but you're 18 now? And people got so confused. We can pretend that it's now? Fuck, it's still wrong. It's still wrong. It's still wrong confused we can pretend that it's now fuck it's still wrong
Starting point is 02:23:25 it's still wrong it's still wrong we can pretend it was 10 minutes ago people you saw people were like hmm where's my moral compass here it's like she's an adult now i mean but no wrong still uh yeah uh blah blah yeah it was a security expert here got over all their shit and uh there was all sorts of releases and all that bullshit so january 13 2015 a judge dismissed domestic violence charges against her and that's when it went all the way in 2018 it was still going on whether the charges were going to be you know there or not uh her nephew by the way uh is six foot nine 280 pounds oh that's not a nephew no he's 17 yeah but he's six nine 280 imagine when these two have kids her and jeremy that's what's in her family and her and
Starting point is 02:24:11 her kids are going to be like shack wow they're going to be huge um yeah uh it's 2015 january 20th of 2015 jeremy stevens is arrested uh 1 30 in the morning, of course. An officer spotted him driving a U.S. soccer van with the headlights off. What? He's driving the U.S. soccer van. Why does he have that? He has the van. She's the captain of the team. She gets the van.
Starting point is 02:24:36 She's in the car. He's driving the van, shit-faced, at 1.30 in the morning with no headlights on. No lights is a good indicator that you're drunk. Yeah, that's the thing. 30 in the morning with no headlights on. No lights is a good indicator that you're drunk. Yeah, that's the thing. He then refused a blood test or a breathalyzer,
Starting point is 02:24:51 so they had to secure a search warrant to draw his blood. Now, the funny thing is, Solo's there as well, and as they said, acting belligerent in the car, pulled out her cell phone to record the officers during the stop. They said that they were just a huge pain in the ass, and the said they were quote this close to arresting solo for disorderly conduct uh they were uh solo actually said quote don't you know who we are that's that she actually was quoted as saying don't you know who we are she pulled it uh oh she pulled that card hard slammed it down on the table like she just fucked like like that was the winning card.
Starting point is 02:25:25 Right. Pow! You only know two soccer players, I'm one of them! Ace of spades, bitch! Yeah, so he's arrested, his bail is set at $5,000, he's under the influence. The national team suspends Hope for 30 days for, I guess, allowing unlawful use of the fucking van. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:25:42 Allowing a drunk person to drive it. Yeah, they were really upset potentially leaving the team liable had there been an accident because if he plowed into somebody and killed them they'd assume the u.s national team uh yeah the coach of the team called it quote a poor decision that resulted in a negative impact on u.s soccer and her teammates uh april 2015 he's in court for the van du. He pleads no contest. His blood concentration was over 0.15. He was an extreme DUI. He admits to that as part of his agreement.
Starting point is 02:26:13 He also admits to the, this is his, you know, he had the last one in Arizona they talk about. Enters the plea on two misdemeanor counts they they plea him down to driving with a 0.08 blood alcohol and uh under the influence with a with 10 years of prior dui conviction there so he's got that uh he made an open plea so it falls on a judge to decide his sentencing here he faces up to a year in county jail what do you think ah he's going away this is it right sentencing may 2015 you sir may fuck off he is sentenced to one month in prison 30 days 30 days god damn it uh they said the sentence will also require him to spend four years on probation and now enter a two-year alcohol program terrific but who cares uh also it's at this point that uh Hope Solo and Jeremy are expecting twins in 2018.
Starting point is 02:27:08 What? But she has a miscarriage. Oh, damn it. Which is terrible. It's an ectopic pregnancy. Oh, shit. Yeah, it's terrible. She said, quote, the doctor said I was hours from dying.
Starting point is 02:27:20 They ended up having to remove my fallopian tube. So it's over. No, it's not. Oh, she's got one more you got another tube there got one in the hole so uh december 17th 2019 uh hope solo announces that she is expecting twins again uh really yep uh one boy and one girl with jeremy stevens and they are going to be fucking enormous oh boy that those are going to be monster children just huge athletes uh so look out for them in the future being pregnant now she's pregnant now december 2019
Starting point is 02:27:50 she announced it so it should be in the next few months she's got the biggest belly ever right now has to be she's yeah she's letting that man leave it oh yeah doesn't care doesn't care it's gonna go so terribly now i found jeremy stevens net worth here on celebrity net worth.com we know how accurate they are not very 60 grand it says 2.5 million for him no way no way that's what i mean i don't know what that's full of shit so can't get enough of hope and and jeremy well i found a jeremy stevens game worn washington jersey really uh from was. It's the number 86. It is $199 for that game-worn jersey, plus $48.99. Oh, no, that's free shipping.
Starting point is 02:28:31 My bad. I'm sorry about that. Also found an autographed Jeremy Stevens photo of him on the Seahawks catching a pass. It's a color photo, autographed. $10. $48.99. That's too much.
Starting point is 02:28:44 And free shipping. I would say that's a little photo, autographed. $10. $48.99. That's too much. And free shipping. I would say that's a little bit too much shipping. Considering I found a Hope Solo autographed jersey, USA red jerseys, $107.34 for that. What? Okay. And then, not only that, his picture of him catching a pass in a Seahawks uniform, who cares, $50 autographed. This is an autographed picture of Hope Solo, pass in a seahawks uniform who cares 50 bucks autographed this is a autographed picture of hope solo and look at it oh my god it's amazing she looks hot she's in like she's got a sports bra and like spandex shorts and she's diving catching a soccer ball and she's
Starting point is 02:29:19 got like muscles how much is that she looks sexy sexy. Hope Solo autographed. 50 bucks. Same price. No. She's a champion. She is a champion. She's a real champion. Her roommate should hang out with her, not him. That's my point, though. After all that, his shit's still worth more than hers.
Starting point is 02:29:37 That's crazy. Crazy shit, man. Equality's not there. It's fucked up. So that, my friends, is our first couple, Jeremy Stevensvens and hope solo look out for their children being born soon if you like that show now we got to do the house cleaning if you like that show do us a favor tell us about it get on apple podcast that purple icon give us a review they really really help drive us up the charts we don't know why but they help on the business end uh give us a review five stars would would be wonderful. Doesn't matter what you say.
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Starting point is 02:32:47 producers are Kyle Dunphy, Calvin Maddox, Annette Wright, Allie Warner, Alicia Parmenter, Clay Thorson, who sent us an article about some guy named Daniel Hall who was slashing tires at a hospital. Oh, I saw that. I saw that article before that.
Starting point is 02:33:04 Real cunt. Thank you, Clyde. Belinda Reed moved to, she lives in Australia, and she changed her bank card but wanted to let us know that she fixed it. Wow, that's amazing. Thank you, guys. That's so sweet.
Starting point is 02:33:15 Thank you. Linda Campbell, Shauna Brazelton, Dylan Ely, Tanya Volanek, Matthew Madigan, Nathan Davidson. He's the dickle guy. He brings dickle to every show. Oh, yeah. His boy Sean's going through some shit.
Starting point is 02:33:28 So thanks, Nathan, for sending the money. And Sean, hang in there. Jordan Bennett, James Crane, Kelsey Hebert. Yeah, it's Hebert. Michelle McQueen Garrison, Blair Bodner. April Penny had a birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Amy.
Starting point is 02:33:43 McKenna Brianne. Oh, fuck. Mathel? Mathel. I birthday. Happy birthday, Amy. McKenna, McKenna, McKenna, Brianne. Oh, fuck. Mathel? Mathel. I don't know what I did. Mathel? Yeah, that's what it is. Rick.
Starting point is 02:33:51 Rick Sikora. Chris, at Mr. Trickshot is his name on Twitter. Morgan with no last name. Courtney Spring. Homestead. Homestead is not Courtney Spring. That's a different person. Janine Fennell.
Starting point is 02:34:03 Fennell. Craig Cole. Catherine Gorday. Rebecca Trapp, and that's them. That's all of them. That's the first ones. Listen, other producers this week are Graham Wilson, Daniel Davis, Georgia Bowers, Taley Rowlingson, Molly Armstrong, Robin Owens, Emily Christian, Amanda Knight, Alexander Sudkopf, Nicole Vaughn, Susanna Platt, Dan McPherson, Kyle Alexander, Amanda Taylor, Rachel Freeburn, Samantha Simmons, Megan O'Hearn, Alana Roberts, Ariel Childress, Elizabeth Goldstein, Lauren Smith, Amanda Miller, Brooke Kale, Ashley Dawn, Ashley Baldwin, Joshua Austin, Liz Vasquez, Dirk Barnert, Dirk Barnert Nelson, Shannon Lafferty oh madoa maddox no it's not but it's the worst scoop is who he is uh emma platt uh elwyn chow carl carl kersh kersher payton meadows god
Starting point is 02:35:15 damn it gary howard marcel del corpo uh jennifer nadal ryan fuck ryan sergeant lindsey redmond Nadal, Ryan, fuck, Ryan Sargent, Lindsay Redman, Lucy Stacy, Matt Ladmeralt, Ben Foster, Misty Head, Taryn McElhenney, Megan Dyer, Brian Whiteman, Nicholas DiMercurio matthew morning star if i could just say i'm slow i'd be great at this but i'm trying to go fast tyler garner peggy no perry ann peregrine peregrine rosa cario probably not james martyr jessica panic uh james aselta benarang i think walt I think. Walt Algarin. Jude Kendall. Janice Hill. Tamara. Yeah. Tamara. Tamara. Tamara.
Starting point is 02:36:08 Tamara Dawn. More. That's those three words are one name. Tabitha Bryant. Jason Shank. Amanda Wilson. Caleb Ward. Lindsay Hollis.
Starting point is 02:36:17 Lauren Demerath. Joe Turner. Matt Moser. Mary Catherine Bredner. Bredner. Daniel Flynn. Christopher Hughes. Nicole Sullivan. Christer, no last name, Johnny Salamino, R. Finch, Kiefer Slope, Sean Brandt, holy shit.
Starting point is 02:36:37 Okay, buckle up. Here we go. Andrea Wardlow, Jen Allison, Melissa Boss, Alex with no last name, Jeff Becker, Mark Moss, Dakota Davis, Sandy Brown, Nicole Minge, Minge, Wagner, not Minge, it's not Minge, Jesus, Sandy Brown, Dakota Davis, Breach, Bree Shea, KZ, Ashley Roseanne, Brittany Stewart, Karen Harris, Caitlin Brady, Lauren Steadley, Jerry Vaughn, Walt, what is that, Dalton Henry, Richard Neimeyer, Karen LH, James Sears, Dimitri Pevich, Nikki Frappier, Courtney McKay, Samantha Tinker, Brittany Brandy, Brandy Schloman. Chris Kennedy. Kayla Kasek.
Starting point is 02:37:26 Denicia Aragon. Adam Hughes. Chris with no last name. Stephen Fletcher. Bob and Megan. Sarah Cox. Tim Dudley. You goddamn hero.
Starting point is 02:37:34 Mindy Schompert. Daniel Boyer. Ryan Martin. Matthew Page. Gary Atteberry. Yep. Karen. No.
Starting point is 02:37:43 Sarah. Kattinger. Ann Spence. Alex Richardson. Alfredo Gonzalez Jr. at at a berry yep uh karen no sarah cattinger and spence uh alex uh richardson alfredo gonzalez jr uh richard richard monge dick monge is that right dick monge minch minch dick minch sarah sarah surage uh sarah cattinger uh and spence i said that robert bernstel, Daniel Van Sloan, Nancy Alexander, Pip W. Gordon Bennett, Lisa Atkinson, Zach Hagen, happy birthday, Martina Kunkel, Katie Carlos, Zachary Watson, Debbie Freeman, Bill with no last name, M. Kemshaw, Brandon Bennett, K. Louise Lesher, Amy Bose, or Boss, Bose probably, Zach Wakefield. Gina Grimaldi. Not Gina.
Starting point is 02:38:25 Tyler Chevrifles. Andrew Flores. Jordan Vout. Aaron with no last name. Megan Lee. Carly with no last name. Imperial Porge. Grace Chapman.
Starting point is 02:38:38 Matt Surridge. Ashley with no last name. Christoph Holtz. No, it's Christopher. Christopher Holtz. Jennifer Perez. Graham with no last name. Gabriel Munger. name christoph holds oh no it's christopher christopher holtz uh jennifer perez graham with no last name gabriel gabriel munger uh melanie halsey chris perez erica love tom with no last name that's thom uh michael moore michael rucker uh margarita lascala i think that's right
Starting point is 02:38:58 uh megan della della della berto that could be one of those Filibertos here. If it was like a deli for white people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Deli Berto. Deli Berto. Yeah, we got fucking pole cuts. Turkey sandwiches and provolone. Christopher Dempsey, Paul Watkinson, Benjamin Burke, Katie Burleson, Jesse Goodwin II, Evil Knievel, probably not, he's dead, Reed Sisson, Kyle with no last name, Ryan, no,
Starting point is 02:39:24 that's, no, it's Ryan, Ryan Robinson,inson robinson uh jennifer shaw cotton farmer in arizona uh it's a cotton farmer uh cat v uh no last name just a v amy uh lila strand uh hayley joseph that's what it is vanya vinter uh andy dixon or andy dick's son maybe Dick's son maybe uh John Whitley Whiteley oh shit Jared Connolly Michael Pichinetti uh Katie Miranda Nick Smith yeah fuck April Norwood Sidney Barnard Brian Brian Bellinger Bellagier uh Laura Tretheway, Margaret Andrews, Chris Dev, Curtis Dev, Danielle Borrelly, Gary Ron, TJ Collier, Jay Elliott, Ray Smith, Chris with no last name, Matthew Taylor, Lenore Hare, Michael Whitaker, Katrina White, Jessica Marn, shit ivan how yeah nick save a lot no save land what what i don't know what i'm doing right now like i don't know what i'm i i get into a groove and
Starting point is 02:40:35 then i stutter and step and then i can't get back in over todd graham uh renee mckinnon jacob uh walshlager britney hymer joe joe bad bachelor uh sydney grace michelle dondo kim hobby brendan no benjamin carlin bell reed matthew doyle nathan nathan pitts andrew crawford james weish uh harley wilson brendan no breeden uh stratton braxton christensen carol carol thomasy tomasi rat boy Brackston Christensen, Carol Thomassey, Ratboy Trevor, Tina Krieger, Shit, Happy Birthday, Valerie Wilson, Tabitha Lilly, Matthew, no, it's Tammy Church. Matthew and Tammy? How do you make those up? A.T., Blaze Patterson, Dylan Strafford, Patricia Mahomes, no, it's Patrick Mahomes, sorry. Yes, yes, someone says neeky patrick yeah
Starting point is 02:41:26 right and i called him patricia completely on accident but also deal with that um whatever they got a fucking super bowl melissa boutron lala elizabeth moore no yeah more uh ty trigger dylan stafford alicia rains larissa harris Beavis. No, that's Bees. Bees Mama, Bae's Mama. Carlton Clark, Hala Michaela Harmon, Ashley Ann Cooper, Amanda Sartain, Dan Hendricks, Katie Fausula, I think, Fasula, Lisa Newman, or Neiman, it's spelled like Neiman Marcus, or neiman uh it's spelled like neiman marcus uh cody holgate uh joe parsons daily shane benner nicole alfino i think uh hayley mager almost there we're getting close brian bowen john sanders holly mcclure justin christie joe joe uh beth uh cromka uh andy tenahill, it's not. Oh, it's too. All right. James Howard.
Starting point is 02:42:25 Ryan Gray. Joseph Guerrero. Michaela Hughey. Philip Carruthers. Jason. No, it's Joshua. Gene. Randy with no last name.
Starting point is 02:42:35 Jacqueline. Nathan Pickens. Butterfly Girl. George Wilson. Zachary Pfeiffer. Pepper Kosar. Sarah Young. Adrian Bloss.
Starting point is 02:42:43 Jennifer Gibson. No, Kevin. Ben Adati. Patrick Murphy, Tommy, no, it's Tammy, Russell Rothwell, fuck, Shelby Amato, Thomas John Strupp Thompson, Brad Harris, Ryan Tini, Lee Malone, Tony M.F. Sorella, Tom Querell, Wynn Jones, Ralph Moradin, Jessica Buchanan, Mats Wyman, Sarah Ireland, Paul Parker, Tyler Garner, Ashley with no last name, Jamie with no last name, Rachel Sutcliffe, Statlick,
Starting point is 02:43:17 Statlick, Jackson, goddammit Jackson, Russ Palmer, Jason Murawski, Nan Jackson, Vanessa Cosner, Marissa, what is that? Marlissa Wells, Nikki Dean, Matt Moon, Allison Rustvold, Josh Gammon, Hanson Williams, Clark Rausch, Dominique Balsoma, Lindsay LaCara, Christydowell uh kylie kylie dunn amy campbell eric ck uh damn it heather harp kevin gunnels uh emma martin kim with no last name emmy campbell i said that amy campbell god megan gush log look no gash gush a lack fuck log look i like i think
Starting point is 02:44:00 kevin mccormick aaron day and an Slabadingdong, Scott Spencer-Wolf, Catherine Conaway, Sarah Davidson, Charlie Mosey, Jennifer Lauren, Candace Corey, Bethany McGee, Rory Callahan, Bonnie Hunt, George Grass, Mike Stein, Hope McPherson god frank frank john edward holmes that's too many names wow patrick stiba amy uh and nathan dierk dierk jerky i think it's jerky oh uh that's that's not it either fuck cynthia skvarch uh hey jimmy yeah you're doing great no i'm not you're doing fucking great man just you know what i'm doing fantastic pal i'm gonna tell you something right now somebody emailed me and goes hey when you read my name you read it wrong but look i picked this name and then sent me their name again they're like can you say it again i'm like i'll give it a i'll give it another world it was like adam clark or something i think i called him steve i love it n Nathan Salvatore Corasanti, Holly and Jalen, John Monk, Kim Eschenbach, which is, never
Starting point is 02:45:11 mind, Amy Hilliard, Lance Troutman, Casey Marzari, Martina, with no last name, Derek, what is that, Aishen, CJ Richards, Brandy Johnson, Derek Pacheco, Jonathan Mapes, Lauren Besser, Christina Nunez DeLucas, Robert. Robert Kennedy, probably not. I think he's dead, right? Well, one of them is. Right. Amanda Zamora, Bailey and Jan Proudly, A.J. Stewart, K.J. Lysot, Steve Penny, Jamie with no last name, Lisa Schult, Taylor Bean, Key Lawrence, Julianne Pierce, Emily D.C., Calvin Tremblay, John Burrows, Robert Smith,
Starting point is 02:45:55 Marissa Summers, Justin Kern, Charles Hyatt, Aaron Hendry, Scott Williams, Tracy Warrobe, Tracy Warrobe, Kyle, no, that's Kelly Arvidson, I'm sorry, Babsy Marie, Anna Ziblick, Deborah Cobb, Ada Sukari, Alma Gonzalez, Morgan Doerr, John Collins, Tracy Poets, Amber Elizabeth, Mary Jo Adcock, Wesley Sikich, Stephanie Bush, Marcus Johnson, Quill Murphy, Darlene R. James, Jennifer McGee, Corbin with no last name, Nate Fleck, Yvonne Gordon, Christy Edwards, Joshua Harren Elton. No, it's Harrington. What? Lawrence with no last name. Sammy. No, it's Sam Rydetti.
Starting point is 02:46:41 Rydelli. Rydell. Tim Rowe. Kira. I wrote this. Kira Noputo, I think. Now Puto. Caitlin Myers.
Starting point is 02:46:53 Camille Day Camp. Mario Gonzalez. Mike Hughes. Tim Peterson. Jenna Burding. Dina McCollum. David Camiletti. Eli Cade.
Starting point is 02:47:03 Chelsea Toplin. Natasha Stemler-Hawkins, Roland Rolando Tello, Clayton and Marley, Christina Hogan, Kristen Hallander, Christoph Probst, Charles Hess, Piper LaRue, Mackenzie Fry, Jason Goodwin, Home Fucking Stretch, Rue, Mackenzie Fry, Jason Goodwin, Home Fucking Stretch, Jasmine Polk, Justin Spivey, Ika Exa Quinn, Jordan with no last name, Audi Griffin, Austin Gorman, Tim Wisner, Megan Rochford, Kelly DiRocco, Brandon Clifton, Cameron Bowden, Mackenzie, no, it's Kenzie McCarthy, Allison Cole, Darla Spulak, I think i'm fucking dyslexic katrina with no last name leah valentine brad hardinger matthew martin matthew uh covey uh katherine cully joella duretta jamie partial daniel with no last name joni and alistar uh alistair uh tommy dugan he's in australia by the way he's fucking great uh matt conradrad, Brad McCourty, Katie Ivey, Craig Duffy, Robbie Burden, Kelsey with no last name, Rachel Harris, Miranda Hodge, Charlie Sera Spence, Sachin Vats.
Starting point is 02:48:16 No. What is it? Sachin Vats? Last week, I said somebody was fucking me. There's actually a dude named Manmeet, and I feel like an asshole. Karen Vaughn, Luella Harris, Micah Boddy. Karen Vaughn, Luella, no, Soenna Harris. Michael, no, it's Kimberly.
Starting point is 02:48:34 See? Eric Rhodes, Tom was my last name. Arlene Bagwell, Kimberly Stowe, Dylan Maggard, Tommy Solis, Wayne Blunk, Giovanni Vargas, bagger tommy tommy solis wayne blunk giovanni vargas luke loper loper fido uh craig craig bossette beset uh joey graben graben john hermes zach with no last name beth dingus jimmy no jillian uh emol nicole butterfield cory sullivan tyler nap taylor collins ej serrano jonas j seuss hey seuss what sarah lawson aj mason silky b uh hunter deshane owen paradise uh julie with no last name joe turner leanne with no last name donna uh car modi uh rachel joe yeah uh nick dimmer dimmy curio kenzie j Jones-Hernandez, Stephanie Gildea, Rose McGordon. No, it's Morgan.
Starting point is 02:49:27 You fucking moron. No, it's Morgrin. I don't know what I did. Hillary Price, Sarah Beth Greenpriest, Green Tire, Sarah Dusick, Oliver Kay, Alicia Braley. No, yeah. Donnie Munsell. Donnie. Thanks, buddy.
Starting point is 02:49:43 He's fucking great He messaged me Whenever we do wrestling Once he's so jacked about it Robert Stewart James with no last name Joanne Begley Mark Trudeau
Starting point is 02:49:52 Sarah Dulcich Sarah Beth Green I said that Andrew No it's Andrew Crenshaw Crystal Fredette Lindsay Cornish Last ones
Starting point is 02:50:01 Here we go Miranda Marcelli Masal Masiel Nick Hickman Schickman What did I. Masal Masiel. Nick Hickman. Schickman? What did I do? I don't know. I Hickman.
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Starting point is 02:50:45 hell out of you guys thank you so much and uh we're just blown away by all you've done for us and if you've noticed that's why we're really really we're really going hard trying to do extra stuff for you guys because we can you guys do so much extra for for us and uh you do it without being asked a lot of times and so we're going to just try to give you guys as much content as we possibly can. What if people thought you were content and wanted to find you? How could they find you, Jimmy? You can find me at WismanSucks,
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