Crime in Sports - #33 - So Many Bodies, So Little Prison - The Brazenness of Ion Croitoru

Episode Date: September 13, 2016

This week, we look at possibly the biggest lunatic that we've ever had the pleasure of researching. Don't let his past as a mediocre professional wrestler fool you, his real career was drug t...rafficking, extortion, violence, murder, the bombing of a police station, and possibly being the greatest used Jeep salesman in the history of North America. This episode is chock full of murderous, revenge seeking bikers, weak prison sentences, and absolute lunacy. Take off your shirt, visit the ol' bomb fridge, and conspire to kill dozens with Ion "Johnny K-9" Croitoru!! Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Tuesday!!Please subscribe, rate, and review!Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!Head to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Crime in Sports!For merchandise: crimeinsports.threadless.comCheck out James and Jimmie's other show: Small Town Murder Follow us on social media!Facebook: facebook.com/crimeinsportsInstagram: instagram.com/smalltownmurderTwitter: twitter.com/MurderSmall Contact the show: crimeinsports@gmail.comDonate on Patreon: patreon.com/crimeinsportsPayPal: paypal.me/crimeinsports See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:54 strange, dark, and mysterious stories on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome back to Crime and Sports. Yay! Yay, yay, yay. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Hello and welcome back to Crime and Sports. Yay! Yay, yay, yay. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Thank you guys so much for joining us as always. All you returning listeners, thank you for coming back again. If you're a new listener, wow, buckle up because you've decided to tune in for a crazy one. About the craziest person we've ever covered. This person, like the one we have today jimmy i it's like if you take evangelos gooses like it's got that sort of organized crimey sort but it's take a little robert rosier culty thing also and murderousness and then just throw in some tommy morrison white trash over but you gotta sprinkle in some bruno dos alza gang affiliation you also have to need some gang there's some gangation. You also have to sprinkle that. You need some gang.
Starting point is 00:02:06 There's some gang affiliations. Yeah, you have to sprinkle in a lot of things here. And also just Jimmy Superfly snooker wrestler wackiness also. It's a wild story we have this week, so get ready for that one. Before we get into that, first things first, I want to thank everybody for their iTunes
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Starting point is 00:04:05 Cricket really sent it. They were not fucking around. Python Cricket really sent it. Good people. Thank you, Python Cricket, so much. Let's kick ass. Alright. That said, we'll get to shout-outs later. We're going to tell everybody we love later, but let's get into this right away. Let's go. Also, too,
Starting point is 00:04:21 hope you enjoyed Dave Meggett, as big a train wreck as we've had. Wow, was that a pile of insanity dave sure was i had a blast with dave maggot personally apparently you guys liked our shawarma man a lot of shawarma man feedback which which makes me laugh because that was fun i coughed heavily oh god we were dying on that that was i felt ridiculous doing that or laughing so much at it and not being able to speak. Doing it was fun. Doing it was great.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I have no complaints for that. Because I don't know the fucking guy. No. She says she has money and they'll give it to us. I'd make fun of you. So fun. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, we have a wild one. It's a wrestler. A professional wrestler. Don't care if you like wrestling or not like we say you don't even have to like sports if you're a new listener you don't like sports doesn't matter stick around stick around because there's very little sports we set up the sports to just to show you where the downfall point comes from where's the mountaintop and where's he going
Starting point is 00:05:20 what what kind of behavior sets up later behavior for us it's almost like a little psychology thing that we like to do it's a little trip this guy is as big a disaster as anyone we've covered he would eat Dave Meggett for lunch this man he absolutely would he's a monster of a human being here
Starting point is 00:05:37 his name is Ion William Croitoru now he's Romanian his parents are from Romania he's born in Hamilton, Ontario Now, he's Romanian. His parents are from Romania. He's born in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. He's a Canadian. Goes by John, by the way. So we're going to call him John. We're not going to call him Ion here.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Ion or whatever the fuck Romanian way. It's probably Ion. Ion. I don't know if it's like Quatoru or Croitoru. I don't know what the Romani... I don't... I didn't look I looked up a lot
Starting point is 00:06:06 for the next hour and a half he is John I have a lot of research right but I couldn't get into Romanian pronunciations and dialects like I couldn't do it
Starting point is 00:06:14 I don't have the fucking energy and honestly that's where I have to draw the line that's a bit much I love you people to death but I can't
Starting point is 00:06:21 I'm not even interested in that so I didn't want to look it up it's so fascinating to me that you're so italian and your your ability to to really speak another language i have no idea fucking it's nothing it's no clue no idea in soccer terms it's no no i have nil in terms of pronunciation skills of languages i've never seen last names. And I don't know a lot of Romanians either. You're Italian from New York.
Starting point is 00:06:49 It's a miracle you know fucking English. Exactly. I speak English well for where I come from. It really is. He's born on December 7, 1965. Old John Croitoru, we'll call him. So he is a 60-year-old man? At this point, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Wouldn't like it. Or 50. Yeah. Is that 50? 50. 50. Yeah, 50-something-year-old man. Yeah, he's a 51-year-old man at this point.
Starting point is 00:07:13 He grows up. His parents are from Romania, so they're hardcore Romanian. And he grows up in Hamilton, Ontario. Like I said, he plays hockey, of course, because he's Canadian. It doesn't matter if he's Romanian or anything else. Just what you do. He plays junior hockey, actually, for the Kitchener Rangers of the Ontario Hockey League. It's like a decent junior league, I guess, but he does not get drafted into the NHL at all.
Starting point is 00:07:36 So, you know, I guess that's every Canadian kid's dream. He's a pretty big guy? He is. He's a really big guy. He's six foot tall. So he's not that tall, but he is a monster. He is barrel-chested, huge arms. Maybe he couldn't skate.
Starting point is 00:07:51 He's wrestling at 300 pounds when he wrestles. And he's jacked. And he's one of these guys that... He's probably all jacked up on roids, but even if he wasn't, he's just enormous. One of these guys, if you saw him in a bar, you would actively make a note to not bump into him by accident just in case perfect he's a psychopath and this guy is so you wouldn't
Starting point is 00:08:10 want to bump into him so he takes his psychopathic giant ways and he becomes a wrestler with it what else do you do you're canadian yeah can't play hockey for a living what else do you do you can either go tap the maple syrup tree or you can ice harvesting or some shit i don't know yes i watched frozen i don't know or there you go you're gonna end up you're gonna end up in wrestling or later on a biker gang as we see also he's he uh breaks into wrestling in 1984 trains for about six months does that sort of thing that seemed to be kind of the way it worked back then you do your training for about six months and they'd start throwing you in the ring. And he's up in Canada.
Starting point is 00:08:47 He breaks into the Stampede territory. That is Bret the Hitman Hart's father's territory. Oh, really? Yeah, that's Stu Hart's territory. Fascinating. That's an old school. If anybody's a wrestling fan, they know about Stu Hart and Stampede
Starting point is 00:09:00 and that's where the British Bulldogs came from and Bret Hart and all those guys and Bad News Brown. Tons of wrestlers came from that Western Canada stampede deal. And Stu Hart's a legend. And he would take people in the basement and twist them into pretzels
Starting point is 00:09:15 and call that training. That's training, yeah. Yeah, he's crazy. He's just beating the shit out of somebody for free. He just beats the shit out of people. There's a Beyond the Mat, if you guys have ever seen that documentary. They go to Bret Hart's house. Is that Beyond the Mat? I don't think it's Beyond the Mat, if you guys have ever seen that documentary. They go to Bret Hart's house,
Starting point is 00:09:26 and is that Beyond the Mat? I don't think it's Beyond the Mat. I think it's the A&E one that Bret Hart did where the whole thing with Vince McMahon. It's an A&E documentary. Beyond the Shadow, behind,
Starting point is 00:09:35 whatever the fuck it is. It doesn't matter. Behind the creepy shit. Behind the bullshit. And he's, they go into Stu Hart's basement, and he's like a 78-year-old man who's hunched over, and clearly in bad physical shape. Yeah. and he's like a 78 year old man who's like hunched over
Starting point is 00:09:45 and you know clearly in bad physical shape and he's got a jacked up 20 year old muscle head on the ground with his face pressed into the mat screaming for his life
Starting point is 00:09:54 oh Jesus going please sir please sir and he's going how's that feel hey you like that you like that buddy say uncle
Starting point is 00:10:00 how's that feel and the kid's like oh my god it hurts and he's like how's that feel Pally and he's laughing and shit does that feel, Pally? And he's laughing and shit. So this is like old time, dirty, tough guy wrestling.
Starting point is 00:10:11 This isn't like new. No one's coming out in a... Nobody's glistening. No one's glistening and having no makeup. There's no rock music and fire. These guys come out and look like they'd beat the shit out of you if you crossed them. Which is what they did. So he stays up in Canada for a little while, comes down to the States in about 85, kicks around a little bit, goes to the AWA, which is a Minnesota-based territory,
Starting point is 00:10:34 so he froze his ass off up there, which is no big deal for him. He's from Canada. He wins the Southern heavyweight title up in AWA. It's Vern Gagne's territory up there. That was where Hulk hogan became a big star really went to w that's where vince mcmahon stole him from interesting to be yeah so he was awa another place that gave a lot of big stars in wrestling their chance so bobby the brain heenan went there and mean gene was an awa announcer and he had all those guys and vince just
Starting point is 00:11:02 stole him hilarious uh he's wrestling under the name the Terrible Turk when he first starts okay he's a bald head he shaves his head bald he's got a big like handlebar biker mustache
Starting point is 00:11:13 he's just a thick badass looking dude yeah it fits in up there first he wrestles under the name the Terrible Turk ends up going to WWF now WWE
Starting point is 00:11:24 as everybody I'm sure is aware of wwe in 1986 ish and changes his name and this is the name he goes by professionally and personally pretty much for the rest of his life changes his name to johnny canine oh johnny canine that's solid that is that's a scary name that's a scary name. He says that there's an in their own words about how he decided on this name. And you can kind of get a glimpse into what we're dealing with here. Just from the syntax and the thought that this would be how you choose your name in any capacity. Fantastic. He says in their own words, quote,
Starting point is 00:12:00 I was just starting to get into wrestling and I always wanted Johnny Canine. I got the name during a big fight. We all got thrown in the paddy wagon, and I saw a police car with the word canine on it. And I said, that's my name, Johnny Canine. He picked it off of a cop car. Look, he doesn't realize that means dog. Dog, right. Dog.
Starting point is 00:12:20 He said, yeah, I want to be Johnny Dog. That's perfect for me. Johnny Canine. He's just a dummy. He's, yeah, I want to be Johnny Dog. That's perfect for me. Johnny Canine. He's just a dummy. He's a meathead. I love his deal with, you know, I got the name during a big fight. We're all in the paddy wagon. That's not the story. For me or you, big fight. He could have left the big fight out. Big fight, thrown in the paddy wagon. That's the fucking story for us. This guy, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Then he's thinking about, what's that word on the side rather than shit, I'm going to jail. Why is that letter and that number together? What's up with that? That's me. So that's the kind of, he's obviously a mental giant.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Just an elder statesman. Exploding with wisdom. Intellectualism, really. He's wrestling in WWF at that point, WWE. He's billed as from romania he goes as johnny canine and he wore like a slightly kind of a gypsy-ish bandana thing on his head kind of like a long band like bode on the wire except black and uh you know not
Starting point is 00:13:19 less baltimore drug dealer style and uh he was a He was a jobber, which is he's the guy that everybody would beat the shit out of. If you watched wrestling on a Saturday morning... It's a job and there's a work. Is that what it is? The job is... You do the job means you lose.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Oh, shoot and work. Yes, exactly. The work is just to pretend like they're beating each other up. That's working. But yeah, he's the guy, if Macho Man's going to drop an elbow on him in three minutes on TV real quick... He's the guy that gets it yeah gorilla monsoon's gonna go oh look at him
Starting point is 00:13:49 he looks like a tough guy and then the guy beats him in three minutes that's how it works he would like do a big i remember him as a kid it'd be only because the name johnny canine was stupid and as a nine-year-old they'd be like how the fuck would he call himself johnny canine i remember thinking what a stupid name as a child yeah you couldn't slip that past a child. I'm thinking that's a dumb shit name. Then he would do this thing where he would yell and scream and drop to his knees and do a cross thing with a Des Bryant above his head.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Like a DMXX? Like an X above his head. For some reason, if you want to be Johnny X, be Johnny X, you're Johnny Canine. Be the executioner what does that have to do with something other than Johnny Canine
Starting point is 00:14:27 what does that have to do with dogs with an X move by the way no dog theme at all maybe that's what DMX got all that maybe
Starting point is 00:14:33 maybe he's like shit man Johnny Canine already taken I'm gonna be DMX now fuck it that's how I fuck with dogs that's what he said DMX got in a fight
Starting point is 00:14:40 and he's in a paddy wagon and he's sitting there Jimmy just dropped his phone everybody will god damn it I don't think it's broken no it's not I think we're in good news we're in good shape okay got in a fight and he's in a paddy wagon and he's sitting there. Jimmy just dropped his phone. Everybody will... God damn it. I don't think it's broken. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I think we're in good news. We're in good shape. Okay. So I think that's what happened though. DMX was like in a paddy wagon. He's like,
Starting point is 00:14:53 I'm going to call myself Johnny Canine. And he looked it up. He's like, fuck, someone already took it. All right, fine. But that's about the...
Starting point is 00:15:00 They probably are on the same intellectual brainwave and equal smarts because they both are on the same intellectual brain wave and equal smarts because they both are clearly retarded. They're not smart people. They're not working with a full deck, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:15:12 This guy is, I don't know if I'd call him more crazy or stupid, Johnny Canine. There's a little of both for sure. It's definitely a competition. Yeah, to see which one's worse. It's a race to the bottom,
Starting point is 00:15:24 let me tell you that. This is a race to the bottom. Let me tell you that. This is a race to the fucking bottom, boy. That's fantastic. Johnny Canine. So yeah, he's going and he's just getting the shit beat out of him
Starting point is 00:15:31 by everybody. He would be like, you know, it's him and Pedro Morales and this guy. Three bums get beat up by three half-decent guys. Tito Santana's
Starting point is 00:15:41 kicking his ass. It's very, very sad. He gets a movie part in 1987. Wow. Old Johnny Canine. Johnny Canine's a his ass. It's very, very sad. He gets a movie part in 1987. Wow. Old Johnny Canine. Johnny Canine's a movie star. Things are looking good for Johnny Canine.
Starting point is 00:15:50 He's on TV. He's coming up. He's with the WWF. They made decent coin back then, those guys. He's touring with them. He's in this movie called The Oklahoma Smugglers, which... Never heard of it. That sounds like a gay cowboy movie.
Starting point is 00:16:04 But not Brokeback Mountain gay, like romantic. This that sounds like a gay cowboy movie but not Brokeback Mountain gay like romantic this shit was like dirty gay like they get out on the range and they're like alright pal
Starting point is 00:16:11 grab your ankles you know what I mean like it's one of those it's just it's just fist fucking the horses participating it's fucking scary there's a horse dick dangling
Starting point is 00:16:20 the horse is teabagging while he's going and they're betting on who can take the most horse dick the most horse cock that The most horse cock. That's the name. I think that's what the movie was.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Oklahoma Cock Smugglers. He plays a wrestler in the movie, so big stretch there. Wow, he's got some range. He's got range. The storyline, the IMDb has like nothing on this. They have like 10 actors that have never been in anything else. The only thing they were ever in. It's filmed in Canada, so you know.
Starting point is 00:16:44 If Canada's known for anything, it's their high-quality film industry. Jesus Christ. And then the storyline, no, sorry, Canada, no offense, but you guys, I put out some horse shit.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I don't think I've seen one. If you watch a movie, and it's a little off, where you're like, it looks like it's almost filmed right, and those people are like, they're 98% 98 attractive but they're not quite there yeah watch till the end it'll say 100 filmed in british columbia and you'll go that's
Starting point is 00:17:11 what it is now it makes sense it's a little off it's just a little off just a just a tinge of un-american it's very not even american american it's just off just a tinge of unprofessional where you're like not even unprofessional just distinctly canadian Where you're like, not even unprofessional, just distinctly Canadian. Where you're like, it's a little less attractive, it's a little less shiny, but it's good solid fare. You know what I mean? Like, that's what they produce. That's Canada. We love Canada, by the way.
Starting point is 00:17:38 That's awesome. I'm a huge fan of Canadians because they're the nicest goddamn people, even though they're going to want to kill us after this episode. After what you just did to them. Go on. So the storyline, this is the only thing under plot, synopsis, storyline on IMDb,
Starting point is 00:17:50 is quote, this is the exact quote. So you know, and a guy named Ota made it. Ota is his, O-T-A is the guy's first name. That's the director. So you know he wrote this,
Starting point is 00:18:01 and he's a foreigner, which is another reason why you know it's hilarious. Sure it's not O-Tay. The fucking shawarma guy directed this movie. And he says in the, I'll just use his accent, fuck it, in the IMDb here in the beginning, this is what it says. Is an action-filled, punch-happy, light-hearted adventure.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Is. Is. Is an action-filled, punch-happy, light-hearted adventure. Who wants shawarma? I make for you. I give now. I cut. You want lamb? I make lamb. Dave Meggett's over here. is an action-filled, punch-happy, light-hearted adventure. Who wants shawarma? I make for you. I give now. I cut.
Starting point is 00:18:27 You want lamb? I make lamb. Dave Meggett's over here. Do you like? Good? Okay. Johnny Canine, you come in. No prostitute in hotel.
Starting point is 00:18:35 No prostitute. They get stain all over carpet. They no pay. It's they no pay. They tell me they have money, then they no pay me. So, yeah, a lot of these actors like I said are all just like
Starting point is 00:18:48 that's their only movie they did Oklahoma Smugglers and then they you know went back to I don't know gay fluffing I suppose
Starting point is 00:18:56 or regular straight fluffing I'm not going to make any I'm not going to cast any aspersions on that I don't care who you're fluffing but I think that's what they were doing.
Starting point is 00:19:06 He gets WWE, loses interest in him in a couple of years. Because, like I said, he's not doing anything. He's just getting the shit beat out of him. And after a while, you can only get the shit beat out of you a few dozen, a couple hundred times on television before they go, why is that guy even fighting? We've seen him get his ass kicked several times. Yeah, he's not a threat anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Because when he came in, he looked tough. The thing is, like, WWE back then, Hulk Hogan's like 6'6", 6'7", and all the big guys were huge. Andre the Giant was big back then. These guys are all 6'4", 6'6". If you're 6'0", no matter how thick you are, you don't look like you're in the same league as Hulk Hogan when he's a head bigger than you. So that was a problem for old Johnny.
Starting point is 00:19:42 He could never crack that next level. He just didn't measure up. No. And it was mainly just height. It was, you know, so he heads to Japan, where height that was a problem for old Johnny. He could never crack that next level. He just didn't measure up. No. And it was mainly just height. It was, you know, so he heads to Japan where height is not a problem.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Good for him. Not a problem. Good for him. He heads over there like 88-ish. He wrestles for New Japan Pro Wrestling. He's Andre the Giant there.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Over there. Over there, he just looks like a big tough American and they like that shit over there because they want their Japanese guys
Starting point is 00:20:01 to beat the shit out of the big tough looking boss American. Right. Take down the big fucking giant. Absolutely. Be fucking... What are their names from the fucking Bible?
Starting point is 00:20:14 Goliath? David and Goliath. Yeah. I think Goliath. Like we've said in the past... Be Japanese, David. I don't know much about the Bible. I try to steer clear of it. Yeah, there's one thing we know less about than soccer and that is the Bible. There's one thing we know less about than soccer, and that is the Bible. The Bible, clearly.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I will do my best at references, and that is all you're getting. And it will be wrong, so fuck off. Sorry. We're doing our best here. I think I nailed that one, though.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I think I got that story right. I think you did. I don't have time to study religion on this shit, too. I got no remaining dialects. Japanese David beat the American Goliath.
Starting point is 00:20:43 That's what it is. So on Japan, we have an In Their Own Words over here, just because it's funny. I like the way he talks. He makes me laugh on this. On Japan, in their own words, he says, quote, they fucking break my nose over there. Crack your ribs. They're tough over there. That's because that's all they can reach. Like shit. Yeah. They're breaking your ribs. Japanese style is known for being extra hard. Really? They beat the shit out of each other over there
Starting point is 00:21:08 because they want it to look real. The crowd respects that more and they're putting the effort in. By the way, sorry about this wrestling talk for a few minutes. We're going to get to so much fucking crime in a minute. It's choking with crime. Getting all this out
Starting point is 00:21:20 because there isn't going to be much time to talk about his career again because it will just be like, oh, then he's heavyweight champ over here. But let me tell you about 14 other things he got arrested for. Because it's insane. Also at this time, he heads to, after Japan a little bit, he heads back to Hamilton. And he starts a wrestling promotion in Hamilton called Canadian International Championship Wrestling, CICW.
Starting point is 00:21:47 He created it? Him and a guy named Mike Kelly, who was in a tag team called the Super Destroyers. If you're a very old school wrestling fan, you might remember the Super Destroyers. And a guy named Bob Clark. They started this promotion trying to capitalize on kind of the wrestling boom, which was actually going down at this point. They got in at the wrong part of it. Promotion folds in less than a year.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Nothing really comes of it. Sounds about right. So he's got to start getting other things lined up. And what he gets lined up is he starts serving drinks and hanging around the clubhouse for a motorcycle gang called Satan's Choice Outlaws. Whoa. Yeah. So he starts hanging out at their clubhouse, serving drinks, basically pledging membership
Starting point is 00:22:28 is what he's doing. He's hanging out doing all things. He's a new recruit. He's a new recruit. Yeah. And yeah, he quickly, because the guy's a giant guy, and he's kind of a local celebrity, because I mean, I don't know how many famous people are from Hamilton, Ontario, but he's been on fucking television.
Starting point is 00:22:41 He was cock smuggling over in Oklahoma a couple years ago on whatever the fuck movie that was. And he's got things going on for him. He's been on television. They like him. And he's a big goddamn tough guy. Yeah. He can be an enforcer. He actually becomes president of the chapter here within like a year and a half.
Starting point is 00:23:01 He becomes president of the chapter. But late 1989, early 1990, not a lot of information on this, but he's arrested for cocaine trafficking. I was just about to say that. This is going to be the marker of the beginning of crime. And it's going to involve drugs. And it's trafficking. Well, the high point is Oklahoma cocksmugglers. That's the high point of this guy's life so far.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And now he's going down into cocaine trafficking. He's taking horse sausage, and that is the best day of his life. Absolutely. And we'll see later on, he figures out the legal system a little better. Clearly didn't have that great of a grasp of it now, because he's actually arrested and convicted of cocaine trafficking in the end. He serves 10 months in prison. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:23:44 And he had other little things. This is the other thing with him. He serves 10 months in prison. Jesus. And he had other little things. This is the other thing with him. He's just a crazy son of a bitch. Like I said, he was in the back
Starting point is 00:23:50 of a paddy wagon for a big fight. So I mean, that's another arrest he had that we don't even have record of. Right. But that happened.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Some bar fight or something. Yeah, that happened in the early, because I think 83 was when he first started getting arrested. So I'm assuming that happened then.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Also, he's got like forgery charges that we never hear about. So I think that happened during that time. He just generally gets in trouble a lot. He's a general scumbag. So he serves 10 months in prison for this.
Starting point is 00:24:12 For the trafficking. Trafficking. He gets out in 91. He, at this point, is the Satan's Choice president of the local chapter. They purchase an old convenience store for $40,000 for their clubhouse headquarters for like a new one. So they're, you know, he's like a mayor going,
Starting point is 00:24:30 I'm going to bring the harbor back to life. You know what I mean? Like elect me and I'll put up, you know, nice condos by the harbor. That's what he's doing. He's the chapter. I'm going to get the economy back in here. There's a rundown old 7-Eleven there
Starting point is 00:24:44 that hasn't been operated in three years i bet we can move right but we can sell we can sell some things and get some profits going and get the the travel industry coming back through here get some tourists travel industry get some tourists coming for the coke so this doesn't happen he's not there for very long out of jail when he's arrested again this time for assault oh um obviously i mean yeah he's clearly sometimes the mayor's got to punch some people he's got to punch some people just to let him know gotta get shit in line yeah get in line and vote for me right vote for kreutaru 2016 write that in right right in kreutaru so he is actually convicted again on this one he serves
Starting point is 00:25:26 john serves seven months in jail for this little uh assault seven months you get seven months so he's building a little resume now of crime um one of the officers one of the ontario police department officers that's kind of he was uh assigned to the bikers he's like a biker expert type of thing he said he was watching all of that them at this time he's on the biker gang beat he's on the biker gang beat and he said of john this is interesting he said of john quote after a while you can tell who's cut out for the life and who isn't i could tell right away he wouldn't make it some of the guys would talk to you if there was a guy who was really into bikes, you could talk bikes. But K-9 would talk about anything, especially
Starting point is 00:26:07 himself. He was just stupid that way. So he's just a fucking idiot. He just wanted to be the guy. His whole thing, and as we're going to go through this, his whole thing is he just wants to be looked at as important. He wants to be respected. He's like Fredo with muscles.
Starting point is 00:26:23 He wants to be important and cool and like Fredo with muscles. He wants to be important and cool and thought of as a badass and a celebrity. It's what he wants. He's been looking for it and he's sort of got it up to this point and he's still going for it. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Don't punch people to get it though. Don't punch people. But he's back in wrestling in 92. He goes back. He's in a promotion called MTW which is a Michigan-based shitty independent wrestling company. Comes to America, huh? Yeah, he comes. It's all a promotion called MTW, which is a Michigan-based, shitty independent wrestling company. Comes to America, huh?
Starting point is 00:26:46 Yeah, he comes. It's all up there. You know, whatever. May as well be Canada. He's going as... He might as well, but it doesn't matter. Going as Taris Bulba. That's quite the name.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Taris Bulba? Taris Bulba. That's not scary. That's a terrible name. He's calling him... He's billing himself as King of the Chain Matches. Jesus. He's calling himself basically an Eastern European lunatic, is what he's going as. But Bul the chain matches like he's calling himself like he's
Starting point is 00:27:05 basically an eastern european lunatic is what he's going as like bulba that's too close to bulba yeah terrorist bulba that's not a good name that sounds like stick with canines bro what are you doing you picked it you earned it for god's sake yeah well at this point the canine thing is ruined because he's been got the shit beat out of him on tv for three years that's a good point oh johnny canine's the guy i saw lose 400 times yeah he stinks i didn't remember him because he's got the shit beat out of him on TV for three years. That's a good point. And he goes, oh, Johnny Canine. That's the guy I saw lose 400 times. Yeah, he stinks. I didn't remember him.
Starting point is 00:27:28 So he's kind of got to reinvent himself. Yeah. Now, he catches a lucky break here. We're getting into some funny shit here because he catches a lucky break in 1994. Jim Cornette. If you don't know who Jim Cornette is, just Google Jim Cornette. Google Jim Cornette Dairy Queen. Just YouTube it, actually. YouTube Jim Cornette Dairy Queen. Just YouTube it, actually.
Starting point is 00:27:45 YouTube Jim Cornette Dairy Queen. Let the video play. It's him freaking out in the middle of the night on a Dairy Queen drive-thru person. Really? Calling her a cunt and everything else. Oh, that's awesome. They order a bunch of food,
Starting point is 00:27:58 and they get up to the window, and they waited in line, did the whole thing. They get up to the window, and there's like six wrestlers in the car, so they ordered a ton of shit because they're all humongous and it's the only thing open in a small town.
Starting point is 00:28:07 They get up to order and they're ordering all sorts of shit and they get up to the window and they're like, you know, where's the order? And the lady's like,
Starting point is 00:28:13 oh, I didn't know y'all were serious. I thought you were messing around. He gets out of the car like a lunatic. What the fuck you mean you think I'm serious?
Starting point is 00:28:20 What the fuck I'm ordering the goddamn food for if you think I'm serious? You fucking cunt goddamn son of a bitch. And this lady's like, you know, he's like going in the window after her it's the funniest thing ever like she's greg rosenthal and wrote some nice thing nice thing about dave megan yeah he's going crazy and all the wrestlers are laughing their asses off in the car and one of
Starting point is 00:28:36 them's got like a you know like a handy cam literally because it's like 1993 old school vhs camera and they're like this is our Jim Cornette guys on his shoulder yeah he's just flailing around acting like you see him through the windshield you see him talking about
Starting point is 00:28:48 bitch bastard he's got this kind of high pitched southern accent awesome he's hilarious actually and he's a really really smart guy he has a podcast
Starting point is 00:28:56 Jim Cornette experience I think it is or something but it's guys you should have sent that shit to Bob Saget on America's Funniest Home Videos
Starting point is 00:29:04 it's hilarious it would just be all beeps it's really funny it's got a shitload of hits on youtube too it's like a famous thing it's all beeps it would just be him flailing and just cunt being beeped every third word so this guy is a character and he's really really smart actually too he's a smart guy and he ran his own wrestling promotion at this time in knox, Tennessee, called Smoky Mountain Wrestling. And this is Cornette. This is Jim Cornette. And this wasn't, Smoky Mountain's not a WWE,
Starting point is 00:29:29 but it's also not a MTW Michigan thing. It's like a mid-range. They're on television in the local area. Their, like, their talent, like, you know, will go to WWF, WWE after a little while. They'll graduate. They'll graduate to there. WWE, they had a little arrangement.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Like a farm system. They're a farm, and they would send, WWE would send guys like that that were coming back from injuries down there, like minor league rehab, basically, and they'd do some matches.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Wrestling AAA. Yeah, or you need to get a guy off TV for a few weeks for whatever reason, you'd send him down there and he'd wrestle and draw him some houses down there, get some money in. Anyway, he's seen by Jim Cornette.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Jim Cornette likes him and takes him into Smoky Mountain. Double A. Triple A? Triple A. Yeah. Is it Triple A? Triple A.
Starting point is 00:30:11 There's double and triple A in baseball. Double is worse. Triple is closer to the majors. It's late at night. It's late at night. Again, we're late at night, guys. I'm like, in my head I'm going, that's a car service, stupid.
Starting point is 00:30:21 That's you dumb shit. Okay. So let's move on. He gives him a new name at this point. Really? Gives him the name Bruiser Bedlam. They didn't like Bulba. They didn't like Terrace Bulba.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Jim Cornette, like I said, smart guy, this Jim Cornette. So Bruiser what? Bruiser Bedlam. Well. Like Bedlam. Yeah. It's a little more scary. That's a great, that's a good name.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah. For a big guy like this and he looks crazy. He's covered in fucking tattoos. By this point, he's covered in tats, too. He's a big... Biker tattoos. Biker tats, and he looks scary. He's got like a swastika on his chest or some shit.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Bro, he's scary. Actually, Jim Crennett talks about some of it. He's got a couple of stories about him, which is hilarious. So he would go down to Smoky Mountain Wrestling on the weekends for him, which is, this is amazing. He'd come down every weekend from Canada to Knoxville. on the weekends for him, which is amazing. He'd come down every weekend from Canada to Knoxville. He'd come down in the winter in an open Jeep with no shirt on.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Wow. From Canada. He just drove the whole way with no shirt and an open Jeep. Just the heater blazing. Who knows? He doesn't care. He's just got enough whale fat blubber that it insulates him. Not even Canada. Who drives through the Midwest in the United States?
Starting point is 00:31:27 That's a good point. Winter. He's like, so the guys immediately thought, this guy's fucking crazy. He's the only guy driving in with no shirt on. The icicles hanging off his nipples. Oh, absolutely. He said, Jim Cornette said he was, at the time, he didn't even know he was associating with the biker guys at all.
Starting point is 00:31:45 He had no fucking idea. He said, well, he says about him here, he says, quote, he was not as bad a guy as his press would dictate. Quote, a good guy to have on your side. Yeah, he seems like the guy you'd want to be your pal. He'd stand around behind you. Call him if you're in a pinch here. Until you fuck up.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Yeah, absolutely. He says, like, they would do things like he could bench press over 600 pounds legit bench i mean right or rides or whatever but he could legit whatever put up 600 pounds which is insane that's the kind of barrel chested guy we're talking about here that's sick and i like they would put him on television at this time to like you know do like we bench press 625 pounds it's like a circus freak yeah do, like, he'd bench press 625 pounds. As, like, a circus freak type? Yeah, as, like, look how tough he is. He's going to kill the good guy because he was a bad guy. He would shoot videos of him, like, you know, bench pressing and then breaking bottles over his head and shit because he was nuts.
Starting point is 00:32:33 He'd just break glass bottles over his head. He didn't give a shit. He became their television champion, so he actually was achieving some wrestling success here. He said, Jim Cornette said he had a large tattoo on his stomach. A big giant tattoo on his stomach that read true to the crew. And Cornette said,
Starting point is 00:32:52 what's your deal with your tats? Because they sit in cars for hours, these guys. What's up with your tats? And you've always got no shirt on. You've always got no shirt on. You're sitting around. He's in the middle of winter. He has no shirt on. This is a conversation piece at this point. We're going to talk about him. He probably doesn't own a shirt. If you're not wearing a shirt
Starting point is 00:33:08 driving from Canada to Tennessee in the winter in an open Jeep, when do you wear a shirt? When? When you get married? No shirt? Just a bow tie like a Chippendale dancer? He doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:33:18 He's a fucking maniac. He tattooed a shirt on. He just tattooed a shirt. It'd be good. Just buttons. That'd be nice. He's got a pocket. A linen nipple. It's a linen shirt I tattooed a shirt on. He just tattooed a shirt. It'd be good. Just buttons. Yeah. That'd be nice. He's got a pocket. A linen nipple.
Starting point is 00:33:25 It's a linen shirt I tattooed on myself. He explained that this True to the Crew tattoo, that's hard to say, that it was a bunch of guys in prison that agreed to get the tattoo
Starting point is 00:33:35 when they got out. They all designed it and he said that he was scared to not have the tattoo next time he sees these guys if he sees them when they get out.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Oh, boy. It's like, imagine how scary they are. Where this guy's like, i don't want to be seen without the tattoo god knows i won't have a shirt on i'm just gonna always have not have a shirt on so they can see it for sure just broadcast maybe that's why just in case i run across one of these guys i want to see that still got it they need to know uh cornette said of him quote he was very loyal if a friend of his had a problem with somebody they had a problem with him too apart from the murder charges he was a great he was great apart from the murder charges that's why cornet's funny too he's he's got good comedic timing i like it um yeah never knew
Starting point is 00:34:15 the and he never knew he was with the bikers and and old johnny canine loved smoky mountain wrestling he's in their own words here fantastic he says, quote, Smokey Mountain, I loved it. That was the best year of my life in this business. Plus, I was champ there. I beat Savage, Cactus Jack,
Starting point is 00:34:31 Jake the Snake. Because WWF would send their guys there, so he'd beat Jake the Snake, Randy Macho Man Savage. Beat all those guys. Yeah, they'd have him go over and they'd have him
Starting point is 00:34:38 beat those guys to make him look good. So that way, when he goes to fight somebody, all the people there believe in him because he beat the famous guy.
Starting point is 00:34:45 That'd be Hacksaw Jim Duggan. Makes sense. 1995 Cornette gets him a tryout with WWF as like a legit wrestler. He has one match as
Starting point is 00:34:54 Bruiser Bedlam. It's like a dark match they call it which is a tryout. He does not get signed. So no more WWF. He joins April 21st
Starting point is 00:35:03 1995. He becomes the Border City Wrestling Can-Am Heavyweight Champion. Oh, that sounds desperate. That is bad shit. That's some who knows, they're probably wrestling in a fucking used car parking lot. It's terrible. That's a shame to see.
Starting point is 00:35:18 So he's gone. This is a shit-starter slide here. Now let's get to probably the craziest thing anybody's ever done in crime and sports history. This is insane. Johnny Canine did it. Johnny Canine is the guy. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:35:33 We've had nutty shit. We've had our run. We've had a lot. We had Sally McNeil doing, like, ball-crushing videos in her basement. We had that. We had, I mean, crimes, though. We've had murders. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:47 You know, molesting children. Horrible. Horror, which those crimes are worse, don't get me wrong. But this is the craziest. This is one where you're like, who the fuck does this? What year, what country are they in?
Starting point is 00:35:59 Canada's a civilized country. They're not in the Sudan over here. This is insanity. So, December 15th, 1996. Old Johnny and several of his Satan's Choice
Starting point is 00:36:10 associates are hanging out in a strip club. They go to a strip... Now, imagine, too, you're the bouncer. You see a bunch of these
Starting point is 00:36:17 fucking guys walking in. This guy with no shirt and says, true to the crew on his stomach. But they're all wearing their gang collars. They're all wearing
Starting point is 00:36:23 their jackets. That's what they fucking wear. Everybody out there has seen bikers. You roll up on a Harley or some chopper and you got a logo on the back that says whatever your gang is. This is apparently not allowed in the strip club. They rarely allow it.
Starting point is 00:36:37 They do not want gang affiliations in the strip club. There's tits here. We don't need to get into all that. There are ladies here that are very vulnerable.. There's tits here. We don't need to get into all that. There are ladies here that are very vulnerable. Because there's naked women here. Is it important who you're associating with at this point?
Starting point is 00:36:51 There's a vagina right there. Right there. Why do you care what's on his jacket? There's one place where all penised people should get along. Because you shouldn't be looking at the ones with the penis. You shouldn't care about him. You should be glaring at these tits.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And you're not going to fight over the girls because none of you are getting them. It's perfect. No reason to fight there. No sex in the champagne room. Not happening for any of you. So they decide to kick these guys out, which I'm just thinking what the hell kind of experience was that?
Starting point is 00:37:23 I would hate to be that bouncer and saying excuse me guys that's a moment where your life rolls through your head going how did I get to this profession
Starting point is 00:37:32 what happened why did I do this why didn't I go to college my mom told me every day get straight A's and go to college and I fucked up
Starting point is 00:37:40 now I have to approach these fucking giant men and their fucking leather jackets. If I had to do this, I would go out to the nearest restaurant and buy a nice gift certificate and present it to them like, listen guys,
Starting point is 00:37:54 I know you're having a good time. You look a little hungry. I just want to offer we really can't have the gang colors, but I would like to offer you this lovely gift certificate to the, it's a really nice Italian place around the corner. Three doors down. Three doors down three doors down love you to be there it's yeah you know like 200 bucks there's five you know you can get whatever you want you got a nice porterhouse and and go in there and have a good a couple beers on me and these guys with their rock hard
Starting point is 00:38:17 dicks are gonna tell you to go fuck yourself they're not happy about getting kicked out of the strip club right they vow revenge, obviously. Oh, Jesus. Who doesn't at this point? And they decide, they leave, and they go, how are we going to get back at these son of a bitches? How do we do it? How would you do it, James?
Starting point is 00:38:33 How would we do it? How would I do it, personally? I'd go home. I'd go home. I'd tell them, I'm going to go somewhere else and tip another stripper my money. That's what I'm going to do. I'd go home.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Maybe write a nasty Yelp review. I might smoke a joint afterwards. And I'd probably text you and be like, this guy was a fucking dick. You'd be like, what happened? And I would tell you. And you'd be like, well, you probably should have gotten kicked out. You can't wear your colors now. Why would you wear your gang colors in a fucking titty bar?
Starting point is 00:38:59 That's how it would have went with me. Or you, I'm sure, too. You'd have been texting me. You'd go, this guy's a fucking asshole. He kicked me out. How about don't run with a gang James well you could now
Starting point is 00:39:07 like we said he's Canadian and he didn't make the NHL he has no choice he has no choice but the streets and he's already been in prison and he's covered in tattoos the gang life is what's going on
Starting point is 00:39:18 Tim Hortons isn't hiring currently so he's stuck in the gang right now he can't do anything else so they decide this particular group, because if your gang name is Satan's Choice, like Satan's Choice. He chose us. Yeah, that's like a brand. We have to live up to what he would do. What would he do? What would Satan do? Would he stab a hooker? No, he wouldn't do that. I thought about, do we mess with
Starting point is 00:39:41 the strippers? Do we beat up the bartender? Not big enough. Yeah, they didn't do it. What we need to do is, we're going to blow up the strip club. That's what they decide. They're going to plant a bomb in the strip club. We're going to kill everybody. Now, they go back to get a bomb. They're doing this tonight, too.
Starting point is 00:39:56 This isn't like, let's get them next week. Let's go back to the clubhouse where we've gotten into that pantry where we've gotten the bombs. Yeah, they go into their bomb fridge. And, you know, they have one of those little mini fridges where guys keep beers in their shed. Where frat boys tuck a keg. Yeah. No, no, no, no. No.
Starting point is 00:40:12 They have. They put the bombs in there. That's their bomb fridge. They go back to their little clubhouse, the 7-Eleven. They go in, like, the old cooler that used to hold the six packs of Coors Light. Their bomb-erator. Yeah. Now they have bombs in there.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I think it's the ice bin is what they're using. You know, the big ice thing. So they get a bomb out. A big plastic tub. They're in Sudbury, Ontario at this point
Starting point is 00:40:33 and somewhere between the clubhouse bomb fridge and the strip club, they change their mind. Uh-oh. And they decide not to blow up the strip club. Change of plans, everybody.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Change of plans. Satan's got a better idea. Satan has a different choice he'd like to make right now and that choice is rather than blowing up the strip club, which is bad,
Starting point is 00:40:53 mind you, but not quite as bad as we want to go, let's blow up, I don't know, the police station. That'll teach him. They blow up
Starting point is 00:41:03 the fucking police station. They blow up the fucking police station. They blow up the police station. I don't even know what the... Do I need to go on? Episode over, guys. That's it. End of the fucking episode.
Starting point is 00:41:13 There's gotta be drugs involved. How does that conversation happen that they're like, hit the brakes. I see our location. He did a whole bunch of other shit. I should just...
Starting point is 00:41:21 We should just say goodnight, everybody, because he blew up a goddamn police station and that's not the worst thing he does or the last thing he does by any stretch
Starting point is 00:41:29 of the imagination. This is the beginning. What a fucking lunatic. This is the beginning. They blow up a police station. Who the fuck, what are you thinking?
Starting point is 00:41:38 Up till now, I want to meet him and I want to hang out with him. Yeah, he'd be fun for a weekend. Now I'm fucking scared. Lenny Dykstra style. I'm scared to death. Weekend in Vegas, he could be a good time. He's got your back. He's going to, you Yeah, he'd be fun for a weekend. Now I'm fucking scared. Lenny Dykstra style. I'm scared to death.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Weekend in Vegas, he could be a good time. He's got your back. He's going to, you know, that'd be fun as shit. You know, any of those guys come up trying to hock your mix CDs.
Starting point is 00:41:52 You're like, get the fuck away from me. And old Johnny comes and clotheslines him. Those bastards on the strip handing you hooker cards. Yeah, strip club cards. Bastards.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Get away from me. He'll blow you up. Or bump into the pit boss on accident. So they bomb the police station. This is a good bomb. It goes off. It damages the shit out of the police station.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Damages the bank right next door. Wow. It also injures a police officer in this whole thing. Likely. Causes $133,000 in damages. I mean, that's a good bomb. That's a house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:24 They blew up a good- Good-sized a house. That's a, yeah. That's a, they blew up a good, good sized house in 92. They got their attention. Yeah. Put it that way. This is 96. Attention gained at this point. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:42:34 So John and his two friends are arrested for this. At this point on Grand Theft Auto, you've got a couple of stars. You've got a couple of stars and they are running and they know who you are and they've seen you.
Starting point is 00:42:44 It's not going to work out. They know what you're wearing. They know you're in the plant pants you can't type in the code fast enough you're like maybe be a fuck god damn it r1 r2 shit never mind you're wasted so they're arrested now while awaiting trial here in 1997 he's awaiting trial for this bombing which i don't understand this is just he bombed the police. I can't get over that. You can't even do that in Grand Theft Auto. You can't blow up the police station.
Starting point is 00:43:12 He's playing Grand Theft Auto. How is that and I can't get to that being an idea? Get the strip club. I wouldn't do it personally, but if you're angry, that angry, you're a psychopath. I can get from A to B there. I can't get from A to police station. Where'd the police station come from in this whole deal?
Starting point is 00:43:29 So while this is going on, the police get an informant on the Satan's Choice gang here. And they basically get all this information, enough to basically shut down the whole gang. They confiscate the headquarters, actually. The clubhouse. The clubhouse. They confiscate the headquarters, actually, because it's a, you know... The clubhouse. The clubhouse. They confiscate the clubhouse, padlock that, and so while that's as much heat as you can get,
Starting point is 00:43:52 they confiscate your clubhouse. So the national leadership of the gang decides to decertify the chapter. Oh, shit. Because this is all very organized, like a frat or something. They decertify the chapter. And so they shut down the Hamilton chapter
Starting point is 00:44:05 and now they're shit out of luck, shit out of a gang. And Johnny Canine's got a lot of heat on him. Johnny Canine blew up a goddamn police station. Did he go to jail for this? Not yet. We'll see. He's awaiting trial for this.
Starting point is 00:44:17 He's still awaiting trial on January 13, 1998. This happened December 96. That's like a year and a month. A year and a couple of months. But still, he's still out on the street. He blew up a police station. And he's still running around. And he hurt a cop.
Starting point is 00:44:30 And he hurt a cop. That's what I mean. I don't know if it's our... Canada, I'm not making any accusations. Right. But are you guys a little soft? I don't know if you guys are so nice that you're like... You're very nice.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Innocent until proven guilty, for sure. And they stick with that. I think they were like, you know, he seems like a nice guy. Don't he? He seems like a good guy. I think maybe we should give him another chance. Are all the cops scared of him, eh? He said sorry, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:53 He said sorry and, like, everything's fine and everything. I asked him what he was all about. Injured cop, you all right? He says he's okay, man. It's all right. I think it's okay. It's all right. He got him a Tim Hornets donut.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I got him a donut. That's a terrible Canadian accent. I think it's okay. It's all right. So he got him a Tim Hornets donut. I got him a donut. So Jen, that's a terrible Canadian. I'm sorry. January 13th, 1998, John gets in a public fist fight with another member of his own gang. Now a police officer, there's a mutiny of foot.
Starting point is 00:45:15 There's a, they're just drunk. I think they're out on the town here and a police officer driving by sees this because he's keeping an eye on these guys. Cause they're under hardcore surveillance. They blew up a fucking police station and then an informant told about all their shit so they're being watched so basically they see him throw a right cross and nail this other guy and so they go up and they arrest him and the other guy doesn't want to press charges he's all jacked up in the face doesn't want to press charges because he's another biker you know bikers get
Starting point is 00:45:42 in fights there's a little bit of honor amongst these it happens you know what i mean they bikers get in fights sometimes with each other shit happens in prison too absolutely so he is arrested for assault for this they even though they the guy doesn't want to press charges the police are pressing charges they saw it he's also yeah they watched him do it he's also charged with an unrelated extortion in this matter because they were looking for him for that. And they saw it and they were like, oh, there he is. And he punched a guy.
Starting point is 00:46:08 There's a guy extorting people. Oh, look, he's punching people too. Apparently somebody owed him money while he was in prison and he made some steps to get the money back. And they called that extortion, basically. So he's shit out of luck there. He's also charged with carrying a concealed weapon because he's got a weapon, obviously.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Lucky he didn't have a fucking bomb on him, this maniac. At least he didn't blow the place up. At least they kept him away from his bomberator. Nice bomberator. So he's also charged with carrying a concealed weapon and breaking conditions of his release on the bombing, because they let him out on bail for the bombing, and so they're like,
Starting point is 00:46:41 hey, asshole, you're doing this. This is still yet to go to trial. So, I mean, at this point when he no one goes why is he on the street yeah why does he have the opportunity to live a straight life how much at all brazen can you be than blowing up a police station i don't think that's as brazen as you get i watched young guns when they burned down the town and when they blew up they blew up a police building yeah but that that shit was all made of wood they chased them constantly from then on out yeah why why is he not and they couldn't catch him to round him up they've got him now why they got him they know where he's at just fucking cuff him and stick him away no no we're gonna yeah he's got plenty of life left yeah this guy has a hundred lives in him he's just life after life after life. So September 1998
Starting point is 00:47:25 finally goes to trial for the bombing incident. He's found guilty. He gets 33 months in jail for this. That's it. Less than three years. 33 months
Starting point is 00:47:34 but there's also suspended time or time served when he was awaiting and yeah he gets out early. That's a hell of a deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:42 It's a hell of a deal. He's out very quickly. He can do that sitting on his head. He's already done it before. Yeah, it's insane. It is absolutely insane. He is out so quickly that, and now I think this is maybe awaiting sentencing
Starting point is 00:47:54 because in November of 1998, some real crazy shit starts going down. Good grief. November 98, he's wrestling. Well, this is just his career here for a second. He's wrestling for an Ontario-based company called ICW, International Championship Wrestling. He becomes their heavyweight champion.
Starting point is 00:48:12 He beats Greg the Hammer Valentine, as you guys might remember from the 80s. He's a great wrestler from the 80s. He beats him. This is such an interesting, it's so small time. I'll tell you about that in a second how small time this is now on wrestling here I'm in their own words on wrestling for this little company
Starting point is 00:48:29 he says quote they all remember me as canine getting killed I don't want that image anymore I win now I kick ass I've paid my dues yeah you do
Starting point is 00:48:38 yeah you do kick ass I blow up police stations I want respect god damn it I kick ass so November 15th 1998 I blow up police stations. I want respect. God damn it. I kick ass. So November 15th, 1998. Let's introduce a couple of new characters here that will not be in the story very long.
Starting point is 00:48:56 We have a lawyer named Lynn Gilbank. She's a defense attorney, a Canadian defense attorney, and does some high-profile cases. And her husband, Fred Gilbank, they there having dinner at their daughter Kristen's house they leave that night they go home to Encaster which is a town up there I guess Fred is seen walking his dog at 11.30pm it's never a good sign when we talk about when they've
Starting point is 00:49:17 been seen walking a dog at that time of night always a bad sign always that means why else would you point out when they were last walking their dog unless that's the last time they were seen unless the next day november 16th their son mark returns at five o'clock in the evening from a weekend trip with his girlfriend in london ontario to find his parents shot to death on the second floor of his house of their house here at the gill banks so're dead. That's why we talk about him walking his dog.
Starting point is 00:49:46 He walked his dog, and 17 hours later, his son finds him and his wife shot to death. Shot to death. And there, it's an execution scene. It's a scene, man. It's brutal, and it's shotguns. Close-range shotguns. Splatter. It's not fucking around.
Starting point is 00:49:59 No. Yeah, this is a... There is some stank on it, we'll say. Yeah. They put a little stank on this one. There's a little stank on it. There's a little mess. They put a little English on this bad boy, we'll say.
Starting point is 00:50:09 When they've got this plot going. So Mark calls 911, the son here. The police find nothing missing and no forced entry. Which, right away, it's not a robbery at that point. She might have pissed somebody off. They know who did it. So they find two white gloves and five spent shotgun shells at the scene.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Five. Close range for two people. Five is a lot. That's overkill. Yeah, that's overkill, man. You could have got that done. Three will do. Three will do.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Maybe one for her, two for him. It might have been a fat guy. I don't know. Or just to make sure he doesn't fight back. Absolutely. Make sure it's over and uh so the time of death here by the medical examiner set at the early morning uh-huh so that's when they're thinking this happened three four a.m four yeah middle of the night they come in
Starting point is 00:50:54 there you know so shortly after 11 30 p.m shortly after sometime between 11 30 doggy exercise i think one of his last acts was to pick up a little dog's shit. That was the other thing. Oh, that's so interesting. He should have just left it. Think about that. As the shotgun was put to my head, I would think,
Starting point is 00:51:12 how did I pick that shit up? Why? No one's going to call me. I don't know what the fuck I said. Mark could have went out and picked it up. I hope it's on somebody's shoe.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Yeah, go fuck yourself. Step, let the sprinklers get on. Get all mushy. I don't care. So the daughter kristin who they were having dinner with told the cops that her mother had been concerned about one of her case files and was concerned about one of these deals here uh in the next two weeks the
Starting point is 00:51:35 police clear the son mark of any wrong of the investigation but that seems to be premature because a judge later calls the clearing of mark quote a suspect that was not properly investigated so i don't know if he means that there's evidence that he did it or if it's just he didn't think they investigated him enough that could go either way but later on another judge agrees with him in a very like they just washed him out too quick yeah like they were like well he didn't do it it's fine like you know his girlfriend said that she was with him so it must have been it. He found him.
Starting point is 00:52:06 He was probably a little upset when he found him. Yeah. Because it's a mess. It is a mess. It's got to be a mess. Imagine walking into that scene. And upstairs, too. Yeah, you walk upstairs.
Starting point is 00:52:15 So you know it's coming through floorboards. Yeah, you're whistling. Hey, it's got to be disgusting. It's got to be soggy. It's not. Jesus Christ. So while this is going on, he's got now this bombing sentence held over his head. He's got murders that just took place that he's sort of being looked at for.
Starting point is 00:52:31 But he's also got to gear up for a big title rematch. Johnny Canine's back to wrestling. With Greg the Hammer Valet. He just won the title. So he's got a rematch. He's got two rematches coming up this December 19th, 1998, and December 20th. The 19th is going to be at the Hamilton Convention Center. And then the next night, it's going to be at an Applebee's restaurant.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Oh, my God. So he's wrestling at an Applebee's. What? Yeah. There are $5 appetizers flying around while this asshole... The only time there's ever wrestling at Applebee's is when a white trash couple gets in an argument. Oh, yeah, and that happens often. Every week.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Every week at the old Applebee's. So if Applebee's couldn't get white trashier enough. That's unbelievable. They got this guy wrestling there. They had wrestlers there. They had, yeah, big ones, too. Big, thick guys wrestling and sweating. Champions.
Starting point is 00:53:19 For the title. I wonder if he won, like, a plate of those riblets when he won the title. The winner gets jalapeno poppers. And riblets. And jalapeno poppers. One order only, please. So at this point, 1998, he's being interviewed by like wrestling, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:35 there's wrestling publications. He's a champ of a thing now and he's, you know, whatever. So they're talking to him and he said... He's still got riblets in his teeth. Yeah, they asked him about his biker gang days too too, in this interview in 1998. And he says, in their own words, quote, I know a few guys. That's why my name comes up. I was never a biker. That's alleged bullshit.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Alleged bullshit. Alleged bullshit. Is it bullshit that's alleged, or is it allegedly bullshit? That's alleged bullshit. I don't even want to hear about it. I love the way this guy talks. You're not only the leader of a biker gang, not only are you a biker, and then you blew up a police station,
Starting point is 00:54:12 which is a pretty bikery thing to do. That's super bikery. It's very bikery. If a police station was blown up, I'd go, terrorists are bikers. That's going to be the only one of the two. The bikers would be angry and on meth. No offense to bikersers if you hear any noise
Starting point is 00:54:27 in the background Frankie the crime and sports dog is away she is stirring and stirring the focus of this investigation
Starting point is 00:54:34 is immediately on of this for these murders is on our man Johnny Canine obviously I like it
Starting point is 00:54:41 and a friend of his a friend of his named Andre Gravel now Gravel's got his own little crime family syndicate drugs operation gravel's a bad son of a bitch here uh they're looking they're that's who john johnny's been hanging out with lately over here the police believe that the hit on lynn gilbank was in retaliation for representing an informer named William Smith
Starting point is 00:55:06 who ratted on the Gravel operation. So they think that was a, like, that's some sweeping reparations there.
Starting point is 00:55:13 That's a big deal, yeah. Yeah, we're gonna, not only, that's deep. We're gonna kill a lawyer that
Starting point is 00:55:17 represented you. Normally, like, that's, the mafia wouldn't Who gives a shit, right? Bikers are crazy,
Starting point is 00:55:22 basically. Don't fuck with Canadian bikers. They go deep. They'll find everybody that's ever talked to you and kill them all. Absolutely. And police don't think either of these guys pulled the trigger. They don't think K-9 or Gravel pulled the trigger.
Starting point is 00:55:32 They just think that they organized it because they're kind of higher-ups in this thing. And they think basically Gravel's the leader of this whole thing. And Johnny K-9's kind of his lead muscle guy. He's just true to the crew, man. He's just true to the crew. He just points to his belly. That's all he needs to do. Now, a few years go by in this case.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Now, they're under investigation the whole time. December 22, 2004, so this is six years later, the police announce an offer of immunity to anyone who played a role in the murders. Wow. Anyone who played a role, they just want the planners of the murders. You were the trigger man. They'll give you immunity if you will say who did it. That's how bad they want the leadership of these crime groups off the streets.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Wow. They're in hardcore crackdown on organized shit mode at this point in Ontario. It's like the Rico times of Ontario. They don't give a shit. They just want people off the streets. go times of Ontario. They don't give a shit. They just want people off the streets.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Now, January 6th, 2005, so this is two weeks later, John, our barred white Johnny canine, is charged with two counts of first-degree murder for Lynn and Fred Gilbank. So somebody spoke up. Two counts of first-degree.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Somebody took the bait. Yikes. That is a poof. That's stiff, brother. That's it. That is stiff man that should be the end of the road that should be the end of the road for this guy but the he he is he's a slick one let's just say that he's very slick now march 30th 2005 so we're in two
Starting point is 00:56:57 and a half months later john's friend and close associate we use the word associate a lot with these bikers that's your boy there is jack howard is charged with accessory after the fact in the gilbank murder okay and then march 31st the very next day andre gravel is charged with two counts of first degree murder somebody talked for sure they're bringing in the whole crew now um so uh two months later a month and a half later may 24 2005 a bail hearing begins in the Gillbank murder case for these three guys. And this is like a national circus.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Oh, I'm sure. It's a national circus. It's one of the longest bail hearings in Canadian history. Bail hearings. Bail hearings. It goes from May to August. Wow. It said it's longer than 90% of the murder trials in Canada.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And this is finding out bail. This is just, let's get bail settled. That's how much shit it is. For five months. Absolutely. Eventually, Gravel is released on $2 million bail earlier than the rest of them. Because he's got it.
Starting point is 00:58:00 He's got it. He's the leader. August 19, 2005, the hearing ends. So it started on May 24th, and it goes that long. Justice Donald Gordon said that the state's case against them was, quote, less than strong. So that's why it's taking so long. He said that, quote, I am satisfied the issue of an alternate suspect is very real. Talking about the son, Mark, and a couple other people that were also, they said, not investigated very well.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Also said the case relied on circumstantial evidence and, quote, cryptic conversations. This is how... Hearsay? Not even. Worse than hearsay. Really? Hear-see, we'll say. Hear-see-say. Listen to what it was. The cryptic thing referred to a lip reader oh god who made a
Starting point is 00:58:47 partial transcript of a conversation between johnny cana and engravel on the day of the murder now this lip reader eventually during this hearing it's found out that she lied in a british case oh no and was totally discredited as a liar and so that was their star witness, the lip reader, first of all. This is a Canadian justice system. I mean, I'm sorry, one thing I'll give our justice system, we have good investigators. Obviously we have serial killers that have never
Starting point is 00:59:16 been caught, but like the mob guys, when they want to fucking get a guy, they get a guy here. Like John Gotti, they were like, we'll just sit and listen to everything he says until he dies, until we get him and they did and we'll wait until he doesn't
Starting point is 00:59:27 pay tax on something and we'll get him but here I mean this is like good god this guy blew up and also too this will not happen today
Starting point is 00:59:35 I don't think this can happen ever again with lip reading because especially not after those bad lip reading videos that are on YouTube you can make somebody say fucking anything
Starting point is 00:59:44 absolutely you can especially this guy's fucking anything. Absolutely you can. Especially this guy's got a big mustache. You can't tell what he's saying. Jesus Christ. Three chins and a giant mustache.
Starting point is 00:59:50 They make Star Wars guys say I'll suck your dick. Yeah. And it looks great. And it is so convincing. That's what I mean. So this is thought to be complete horse shit.
Starting point is 00:59:58 At this point, Johnny Canine's been in jail for seven months and he's released on $100,000 bail back out into the system. I mean, he's got two shotgun murders on him. A weak-ass case, but it's still going at this point.
Starting point is 01:00:10 It's not over yet. December 2, 2005, he's arrested for extortion and violating the terms of his bail. Again, this guy cannot stop getting arrested, and it doesn't stop. He doesn't stop being a dick. We're still in a big, giant chunk of deepness here. He's still in a lot of trouble. Oh yeah. And he just keeps getting
Starting point is 01:00:27 in deeper trouble. Murder trial. I don't understand. This is just 10 years ago. This is what I mean. By the way, anybody out here know this was happening?
Starting point is 01:00:36 No. Anybody ever hear of this shit? I've never heard of this. I've never heard of this. This is like one of those stories where I was like, I was really looking for something kind of off the beaten path.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Yeah. And I was like, this isn't real. it's another one where i'm like a movie police station this is that's what i thought it was a low budget shit movie somewhere he gets into a fight later on with guys called the bacon brothers i'm like this is not real the bacon brothers blowing up police stations get the fuck out of here this is real shit it's's insane. So June 12, 2006, the preliminary hearing for the trial of the Gillbank murder starts the next day. Okay. The Crown, is what they call their whatever up there, the Crown withdraws all charges against all three men.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Oh, boy. Pulls them back. Do they have double jeopardy up there? Is that maybe why? Well, they pull them back. They call it stayed. They stay the thing. So that means you technically can refile it.
Starting point is 01:01:27 It's like a suspended thing. Yeah, well, you can do it here. You can pull charges and refile them. They have the option until the statute's over. Because they don't want to go forward with something and then get dismissed or whatever. And then they can't retry them because double jeopardy. And even if they don't have double jeopardy, if's part of your case it looks worse if you've already been acquitted
Starting point is 01:01:45 you've already been acquitted of this you're harassing these people the prosecution says that they had no reasonable prospect of obtaining convictions and they're going to
Starting point is 01:01:55 have to continue to investigate so they said we don't have shit so they arrested them held them had a four month long bail hearing
Starting point is 01:02:02 all this shit and they go I'm sorry we don't have anything not right now it's like they were trying to get somebody to crack and roll
Starting point is 01:02:07 on the others that's what it seems like to me and they all said can you come back yeah they all said no we're not doing anything
Starting point is 01:02:12 so yeah John now moves to British Columbia he's out of Ontario goes to British Columbia because you know the gang broke up and there's not that
Starting point is 01:02:23 much to hang out with he needs a new gang he's got to get the gang back together and you know what he finds there's not that much to hang out with. He needs a new gang. He's got to get the gang back together. And you know what he finds? A new goddamn gang to hang out with. Really? The UN gang. And these guys are bad motherfuckers.
Starting point is 01:02:33 The UN gang? These guys are badasses. And yeah, they start a war, basically. Really? The UN gang. This is now, they want control of drugs and it's all revenge shit. We're going to get into some crazy biker insanity right now.
Starting point is 01:02:47 I love it. It gets wild. June 2006, right after the charges are tossed for the shooting, he has to answer for his violating terms of bail and his extortion still. So he pleads guilty to that. You know what he's penalized? A guy who was on trial for murder who blew up a police station and did all this shit. You know what they gave him? A week. Ten days trial for murder, who blew up a police station, who did all this shit. You know what they gave him?
Starting point is 01:03:06 A week. $10,000. No way. No, no. Not a $10,000 fine. They're keeping $10,000 of his bail. He had $100,000 bail. They said, we're only giving you $90,000 back, mister.
Starting point is 01:03:19 You can't be extorting people and violating shit. Why don't they just... What in the fuck? Why don't somebody jerk him off on the way out too Canadians are so sweet they're the nicest
Starting point is 01:03:29 people ever I'm going to go commit all my crimes in Canada if I ever want to go on a run it's going to be over there
Starting point is 01:03:34 I'll tell you that every time every time I'll just say I'm a nice guy afterwards it's fine so March 2007
Starting point is 01:03:40 now the Gilbanks family they go on TV and say the case collapsed due to corruption. They blame leaks in the department, which I'm sure there was. A Hamilton police detective said the allegations are, quote, false, baseless, scurrilous, and potentially libelous and defamatory.
Starting point is 01:03:57 I wish he would have said alleged bullshit. It's alleged bullshit. Leaks are alleged bullshit. I will not stand for it. Mills. That would have alleged bullshit. I will not stand for it. Mills. That would have been amazing. Unreal. So I think it's hilarious
Starting point is 01:04:10 to talk shit about the family of a murder victim and call them potentially libelous and defamatory. That'll look good for the state. Let's sue that victim of a murder family whose case we haven't been able
Starting point is 01:04:22 to solve in ten fucking years. Still mourning. They don't have closure. Who's still mourning. Yeah. They don't have closure. It's not like it's a month later and they don't care. And they're defamatory dicks. It's not like it's a month later and they're like, these people can't solve the case. It's 10 years.
Starting point is 01:04:32 You had your chance. It's been nine years. You guys are jerk-offs. Period. Whatever they have to say is warranted and valid. And you've got a suspect that's blowing up police departments. Find a way to pin a case on that motherfucker. No shit.
Starting point is 01:04:44 It shouldn't be that hard. So May 2007, Gravel, Andre Gravel, and Johnny Canine file lawsuits for malicious prosecution. Oh, shit. And, yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:58 malicious prosecution and false imprisonment. And alleged bullshit. And alleged bullshit. $25 million, the Gra gravel suit is 15 million oh boy that's steep that's steep now there's two now they're a assholes yeah two months ago they were you know in oh shit we're gonna go for away forever and now they're suing for alleged bullshit and they could win they could win now 2007-2080 claims that he works as a bodyguard for Lionsgate Films up there. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:05:26 When they film shit in BC, he says he's guarded Jack Nicholson and Cyndi Lauper and a couple other people. Cyndi Lauper was in a Liongate? Who the hell knows what Cyndi Lauper was doing? She was just hanging around being weird. Somebody liked her as like a mascot. Right. So this is never really validated, but he tells everybody. And he's a huge, big, if you want a bodyguard.
Starting point is 01:05:44 It's hard to argue with that guy you know what if i'm looking to go around and not be fucked with that's the guy i'm taking with me absolutely a giant shirtless tattooed biker who says true to the crew right no one's coming near you and you're his crew at the moment you're he's true to you that's it you're in good shape at that point 2008 he starts a home improvement company. Which is an odd turn for him. You were just bodyguarding Jack Nicholson.
Starting point is 01:06:11 I don't know what... He's trying to show legitimacy at this point. I don't know if he's going legit, but he's trying to show some form of legitimacy. And now he's out flipping houses? I guess so. Is he a fucking property brother? I can picture him going around in a truck going around going, got, I don't know, I can picture him going around
Starting point is 01:06:25 and like, you know, like a truck going around going, ah, the roof doesn't look right,
Starting point is 01:06:29 I can fix it for you. Like, I can see him trying to hustle people for stopping by people. Hey, your trees need
Starting point is 01:06:34 pruning. Intimidating them, you know what I mean? Looks like you need a paint job. And they're like, no, I just had a paint,
Starting point is 01:06:39 you need a paint job. I'm going to fix your plumbing. No, you're not. Yes, I am. Let me see your pipes.
Starting point is 01:06:44 What? I need to inspect your pipes. Honey, he's going to just look at our pipes. Just let him do not. Yes, I am. Let me see your pipes. What? I need to inspect your pipes. Honey, he's going to just look at our pipes. Just let him do it. Just let him look. Just let him look. I know he has no shirt on, okay?
Starting point is 01:06:52 I get that. I'm going to fix your pipes in here. What's in there? Just some alleged bullshit. I'll fix it. Don't worry. I know it's snowing out and he has no shirt on, but we have alleged bullshit. Honey, he needs to look at it. He needs to look at our alleged bullshit.
Starting point is 01:07:05 And he's going to fix it. He's going to fix it, okay fix it okay just leave him he's got a pipe wrench let him be that's why he has no shirt on he gets very worked up and hot when he does these when he finds the alleged bullshit he starts sweating he works hard guys hard now he tries to get a bank loan to expand the company who's giving this fucking guy a bank loan? Anybody that he talks to. Anybody that he walks in and goes, I need a bank loan. What do you need a bank loan for? A fucking bank loan. All right, it's yours. On the street, he could just walk up to a stranger and get a loan out of him, I'm sure. But the banks want nothing to do with him. He's like, didn't you blow up a police station? That seems like- Listen, I'm true to the crew. Give me the fucking bank loan.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Isn't that when you blew up a police station, you injured a officer what else was damaged oh yeah bank no 120 000 30 130 you don't ever get bank loans ever again because you tried to blow up a bank sorry you're off you're out but they gave it to him they didn't give him this loan oh they did they do not give this loan and his company falls because of it oh so how much was he asking for does it does not say he was just asking for an expansion loan i think he needed he was underwater it was over on a random sort of it he Oh. How much was he asking for? Does it say? It does not say. He was just asking for an expansion loan. I think he needed it. He was underwater. It was over a hundred grand. I'm sorry about that.
Starting point is 01:08:08 So he goes to work as a used car salesman. Awesome. Used cars. Imagine that guy selling a used car. I was looking for like a 2007. You need a topless Jeep.
Starting point is 01:08:18 That's what you need. No, no, no. It's cold in the winter. I'm looking for like a Honda. Listen, you fucking person. You take your shirt off. Look, I really, I have kids, you know, and I need to put it in the bag. Take their fucking shirts off.
Starting point is 01:08:29 You're going to raise pussies? My son has breathing trouble. Listen, that's alleged bullshit. Put him in the back. He'll be all right. No, but he's very asthmatic. The wind will force down his throat. He'll be all right.
Starting point is 01:08:40 He's very asthmatic. You go faster. I don't know if we can fit in there. I'll wedge in. Can I get doors for this? Does it come with doors? I ripped them all off. I guess I'll just take the Jeep then.
Starting point is 01:08:54 That's how he sells them. He was the top Jeep salesman in all of Western Canada. Johnny Canine. The top selling jeep salesman in all of Western Canada he's a used car salesman
Starting point is 01:09:09 unreal he's got an 06 Wrangler for you over here hop in I got a Rubicon in the back come on I got a Sahara
Starting point is 01:09:17 I got a Rubicon I got them all it doesn't come with doors or shirts get in move your ass tell you what if you buy this jeep you can have my shirts.
Starting point is 01:09:26 You ever think about investing in a home improvement company? You buy this Jeep, it comes with a free tattoo. Oh, my God. The only one you get is true to the crew. It's the only one we got. That's all he knows how to write. Sorry about that. He's back there.
Starting point is 01:09:39 His needle's a little dirty, but you'll be all right. Don't worry about it. You got hepatitis, right? We all do, don't we? Okay. He's a little sick. He's got, I don't know, it's alleged bullshit or something. Don't worry about it. You got hepatitis, right? We all do, don't we? Okay. He's a little sick. He's got, I don't know, it's alleged bullshit or something.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Some alleged bullshit. I don't know what the fuck. This fucking kid's, this guy's kid is a pussy. He's got some alleged bullshit in his chest. He doesn't want the Jeep. Nah, you're getting the Jeep.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Tattoo him. Tattoo him. Let's go. Put a tat on this guy. So he's in the used car game. He must be bored currently, so he's got to go out and find some people to try to kill him. So let's get the used car game. He must be bored apparently. So he's got to go out and find some people to try to kill him. So let's get into those people.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Oh, fantastic. Let's get into a rival gang now. Really? Now let's get into the Bacon Brothers. Oh, the Bacon Brothers don't like Jeeps. They do not like Jeeps and they wear shirts everywhere. They're very anti-male toplessness. The rival gang is called the Red Scorpions.
Starting point is 01:10:25 And they are, the leaders are the Bacon Brothers. And in order of age, from oldest to youngest, they are Jonathan, Jared, Jamie, and of course Kevin. No, I'm just kidding. There's no Kevin. It's three of them. It's Jonathan, Jared, and Jamie. Bacon. Bacon.
Starting point is 01:10:39 And they're the leaders of this gang. And no one is like, they're the front men of this gang. And they piss off. I just picked up Kevin Bacon. Son of a bitch. I'm such a piece of shit. I'm like what Kevin?
Starting point is 01:10:49 Oh Kevin Bacon. Fucking seven sentences later. I got it. Fuck you. Six degrees of separation. I'm on board. These people have very little
Starting point is 01:10:58 separation from Kevin Bacon. Yeah no doubt. So they're the Bacon brothers are not friends of the UN gang. They are not friends of the UN gang. They are not buddies. The UN gang.
Starting point is 01:11:08 UN leader Clayton Rausch in 2008, January 2008. Clayton Rausch, he's the leader and kind of the head, he's the face of this organization, of the UN gang. Right. He is shot by an associate of the Bacon Brothers. Not killed, but shot. It was an assassination attempt. They didn't get him. He lived and he is fucking pissed as the leader of a biker gang. It's one of the perks of being the leader of a biker gang. If
Starting point is 01:11:38 people try to kill you, you can get revenge. You get to be angry. You get to be angry. You get to do something about it. And you can get revenge. You can go, hey guys, let's get him. So this is January 2008. He freaks out. And from this moment on, it is his life's goal to kill the Bacon Brothers. Wow. He wants these son of a bitches dead. And what's his name again?
Starting point is 01:11:55 Clayton. This is Clayton Roush. Clayton Roush. Or Roushay. But I'm going to go with Roush. All right. And make it easy on me. Call him Clay.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Hey, Clay. He puts out contracts on the Bacon Brothers and three of their associates. Six people all together. Six people, and they're big contracts. Jamie, the youngest Bacon Brother, the price on his head is $300,000. Wow, and I can think of somebody that just got denied for a bank loan. That might be looking for a little bit of cash. In May 8, 2008, a UN member named Dwayne Meyer is shot to death in Abbotsford.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Next day, they go into full revenge mode at this point. It's a war. It's a war now. They go out, get in their cars, and go just drive around the city looking for associates and Bacon Brothers to go shoot. Let's go kill these son of a bitches. Yeah, that's literally what it is. Let's go find the Red Scorpions and fuck them up and shoot the shit out of them. And that's what they try to do.
Starting point is 01:12:46 They spot a bacon associate named Michael Lay and have a huge chase. They have a chase on the highway. Highway 1 in Vancouver. Holy shit. Going through metropolitan areas and I mean, it's not like...
Starting point is 01:12:57 Endangering lives of citizens. Yeah, they're not out in the middle of the forest dodging mooses. Moose. Moose. Singular moose. Meese.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Meese. Dodging meese. Dodging a moose. They're in the middle of the forest, dodging mooses. Moose. Moose. Singular moose. Meese. Meese. Dodging meese. Dodging a moose. They're in the city, and they're opening fire on him. They're shooting at him. They're shooting up his car as he's driving. He's trying to get away.
Starting point is 01:13:15 In Vancouver? Jesus. In Vancouver. In 2008, when they had a fucking basketball team. Yeah. This is chasing and shooting. This is insane.
Starting point is 01:13:23 They were gone by then, I think. Were they? Yeah, I think they were. It couldn't have lasted that long. I can't remember. So this day, even Clayton Roush was pulled over by the police because at this point, also, they have a wire. They have phone taps.
Starting point is 01:13:35 I'm going to get into here a couple of conversations that are absolutely classic here. So they know what's going on. The cops are aware of this. They're aware of this chase. Yeah, they're aware that they're out looking for blood so they find Rausch
Starting point is 01:13:48 and pull him over and they ask him the officer who knows the whole deal when is this when is this violence going to stop when is it going to stop
Starting point is 01:13:55 and Rausch said quote it won't it would be the same if a police officer was murdered the police would also want revenge
Starting point is 01:14:02 that's just the way it is wow and it's just like so i don't think they go around uh well maybe maybe they would but i mean i wasn't shooting at a car while it drives on the highway the one they'd pull you over first at the one that shot a cop it's not they're not looking at everybody hunting and later not looking for his friend no later that day same day a man who was mistaken for Jamie Bacon was shot and killed. So they found a guy who they thought
Starting point is 01:14:28 was Jamie Bacon and shot and killed him. Like a Mexican cartel at this point. It's not even... These guys, anyone they hang out with, anyone that looks like them, kill everybody. They got the same color eyes. You don't want to be a Bacon brother at this moment in time. Don't be named Jonathan Jamie or Bacon. Or Jared Bacon.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Don't even eat bacon. Don't eat bacon. No Canadian bacon. No bacon. So Jonathan Bacon, this is the same day, Jonathan Bacon, who's the oldest, and he takes,
Starting point is 01:14:54 he's got a Porsche, what is it, the Cayenne, the SUV one. What the fuck kind of a leader of a biker gang drives a goddamn minivan? That's a Porsche minivan,
Starting point is 01:15:04 basically. It really is. His asshole's driving that. But anyway, I'm ashamed of him. He's a Porsche minivan basically. It really is. His asshole's driving that. But anyway, I'm ashamed of him. He should have been ashamed of himself.
Starting point is 01:15:09 He should be. So he takes this Porsche to his friend Jonathan Barber who's a stereo installer. This is a funny thing because I picture Tommy Morrison
Starting point is 01:15:17 with the Corvette. Fuck yeah. But actually, this guy, Tommy Morrison had a better outcome than what happens here with this whole thing.
Starting point is 01:15:24 So Jonathan Barber is his buddy. Barber gets, takes the car to go, he gets in the car, he's like, go take my car and install a stereo. He gets in the car, starts to pull away. Also, too, Barber's girlfriend, Vicky King, is right behind him in
Starting point is 01:15:37 Jonathan Barber's car following. He gets in, the UN boys pull up and open fire on the horse and shoot the shit out of Jonathan Barber he's dead immediately
Starting point is 01:15:49 I mean they completely and they shoot the girlfriend up she does not die but she is shot to shit she's got
Starting point is 01:15:54 all on her arms tons of shells shotguns again I mean they have a definite pattern that they like to do so they're out
Starting point is 01:16:03 for blood here this is no shit they want to do major damage and make sure they are not alive. Oh, absolutely. Now it's going to... This is getting insane now, right? So this was like the final straw for the cops, and the cops knew what was going on.
Starting point is 01:16:19 They had taps here. Awesome. And we have some funny, funny stuff that was said on these. This is great. This is Roush talking to Johnny K9 on the phone, and it's just a funny... This is just how crazy these guys are. He says, quote, There's this one big crazy guy out here who fucking thinks the Mexicans are the UN and are fucking up the market.
Starting point is 01:16:42 guy out here who fucking thinks the Mexicans are the UN and are fucking up the market. They are just having meetings because the Mexicans before I was involved were just straight flooding the city. And they got 70 guys out there, but they stay sort of neutral. They like to be quiet and make money. So they're
Starting point is 01:16:58 talking about a guy, and Johnny Canine says, quote, he makes 25 keys a month of crystal meth. We can get rich with this, is his quote. Let's bump him off and take his market. And he says he's going to need protection, is what he's saying. He says, I'll get the fucking money for protection
Starting point is 01:17:14 and we'll get some good shit. And Roush says, we can make tons. And they're like, this is great. We're going to get meth and money. They're talking about making deals and making money off of drugs, and the cops hear the whole fucking thing. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:17:27 And he says, then Johnny Canine says, there's guns in the pouch. He's got a nice little fucking 15 with a clip in it, and this guy's saying nice, and they're going back and forth like, yeah, we're going to protect this guy. I've got guns. Don't worry about it. We'll get a bunch of meth from them. Is that an AR-15?
Starting point is 01:17:44 I believe so. He's got a nice little fucking 15 with a bunch of meth from them. We'll sell it. Is that an AR-15? I believe so. Yeah, he's got a nice little fucking 15 with a clip in it probably. These guys are psychopaths. I mean, they go on and it's just all of this back and forth about we're going to make drugs. Drugs, guns, kill, kill, drugs, kill.
Starting point is 01:18:00 It's nuts. I love it. There's tons of it here. And they've got the evidence now. They've got a ton of evidence. January 24, 2011, Mr. Johnny Canine is charged with first-degree murder in the killing of Jonathan Barber, the stereo installer, the poor unfortunate stereo installer. Poor guy working on wire fires. He's arrested again now for murder.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Now he's charged again. So now let's back it up. So he's had drug trafficking. He's been in a paddy wagon thinking that the dog is a good name for murder. Now he's charged again. So now, let's back it up. So he's had drug trafficking. He's been in a paddy wagon thinking that dog is a good name for himself. He's blown up police stations. He's assaulted.
Starting point is 01:18:33 He's got his biker gang taken away. He's been a used car salesman. He's the top used Jeep Wrangler salesman in all of North America, especially Western Canada. He's got that locked down. He's, especially Western Canada. He's got that lockdown. He's got bodies on him.
Starting point is 01:18:47 He's been charged and somehow let go from these Gill Bank murders. The Gill Banks are dead. Lots of people are dead. Their son is a poor guy. He's got no parents. Everywhere. The kids of Hamilton have no one to look up to. I feel bad, Jimmy.
Starting point is 01:19:05 A girl riddled with gunshots. I feel bad, Jimmy. I feel bad. A girl riddled with gunshots. I feel bad for her, too. But not nearly. Not even close to as bad. That's so bad. As I feel for Ayan Krotoru, the professor of applied philosophy,
Starting point is 01:19:21 social and political philosophy, and philosophy of science at Valahia University of Targovis. I have no fucking idea where that is. I'm guessing Romania. Everyone with his name is Romanian.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Including the other poor bastard, Aion Crotoru, who's a very respected Romanian cellist. And if you look up Aion Crotoru videos, you will see lots of videos of this older romanian man beautifully playing a cello ripping up a cello with the name of a murderer he chose a dorky ass life and there's a man that's a psychopath these poor bastards same name he's like i play beautiful look me up and they're like you're the guy that fought hulk
Starting point is 01:20:02 hogan in 86 i don't want to talk to you and then blew up a police station you crazy shit unreal so also too they have a talk there's a hitman who comes forward I didn't even notice
Starting point is 01:20:12 your tattoos where's your you have a shirt on what's up with that where's your jeep this is some alleged bullshit this is alleged
Starting point is 01:20:21 I don't buy this for a second so jailed hitman Ken Murdock has a big, just a big talking to, one of these exposés of him. I'm going to tell you all about the life of crime type of shit. Ken Murdock, he says that the mafia at one time hired him to kill Johnny Canine.
Starting point is 01:20:39 But he said he liked him and he decided to spare him. He said, I don't know, I'm going to kill this guy. I like him? How decided to spare him. He said, I don't know. Who do I kill this guy? I like him? How do you like him? I think it was more like, that guy frightens me. I'm not going to try to kill him. How about, I like me. I like me.
Starting point is 01:20:55 And I don't want to die for killing that psychopath. I saw what happened to Mr. Barber back there. August 14, 2011, Jonathan Bacon is shot to death in Kelowna. Oh my God, it's unstoppable. Oh yeah, no, it's going on.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Four others are wounded. A woman is paralyzed in the attack. Paralyzed for life. Four others, three others besides her are wounded. Bacon dead.
Starting point is 01:21:17 That's a scary event. Oldest Bacon dead. Yeah. In 2011, August 31st, a book comes out. And that's the guy they were trying to get when they got comes out and that's the guy they were trying to get
Starting point is 01:21:26 when they got Barber that's the guy they were trying to get when they got Barber so they got him he got got in the end a book comes out
Starting point is 01:21:32 loosely term book I'll use that very loosely called Gang Members about biker gang whatever the fuck it's called it's from goodreads.com
Starting point is 01:21:42 it's on it's $5 and it's one of those again quote from Wikipedia and other free online sources It's $5, and it's one of those, again, quote from Wikipedia and other free online sources. Save your $5. We got you covered, guys. Stop doing that. Stop doing that. Stop writing those, you fucking thieves.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Stop. Just stop. At least if you listen to us, we look at a lot of online free sources and everything else, but we look at 100 of them, and also it's funny. And also, too. I guarantee you that book's not funny. I'm not charging you $5 for this shit. No, just listen yeah it's fine just listen listen maybe buy a bat from the python cricket people and save your eyes and you don't have to read shit so yeah exactly yeah be lazy let us do it let us do the reading let me cramp my hand and destroy it on piles of index and talk shit about some asshole that does the same thing we do and then fucking pens it and sells it and robs you.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Robs you of $5. I bet they've sold three copies of that book. I hope they haven't. I made $15. April 19, 2012, the trial begins in the Bacon Brother murder conspiracy trial. Now, they are arrested. Here we go. Johnny Canine and four other UN gang members are arrested in a conspiracy trial
Starting point is 01:22:48 they have the bunch of conspiracy trials like how the fuck do we get these guys okay well we have them on taps saying how they're trying to kill all these people so conspiracy to commit murder you go let's do it that's as good as murder this country will get your life you know what i mean so this is four other members. Members are... Don't even need a body. Don't even need a body. Because if you fucking hire a hitman and it's a sting operation,
Starting point is 01:23:10 you can still go to jail for life. That's it. Conspiracy. You're done. The other members are Barzon Tilly Choli. Tilly Dash Choli. This really is the UN gang. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Yong Lee. Oh, boy. Dilon Heng. Oh, boy. And Karwan Syed they are getting everybody from everywhere
Starting point is 01:23:27 this does not sound like a group of guys that hang out with each other no this is just they like apply to some social network
Starting point is 01:23:33 they're like they're the worst of the worst and I here are my skills and you just draft your free agent a small plane
Starting point is 01:23:40 full of ambassadors went down flying over somewhere and these are the guys here draft your free agent. We draft Hang. We draft D-Lon.
Starting point is 01:23:49 So they basically... It's a conspiracy to murder a bunch of Red Scorpion members of Bacon Brothers obviously being the top, the main targets. They actually plead guilty to this. They're fucked. They have electronic... I mean, you can't deny with all the phone stuff. They're screwed. I was reading, I mean, you can't deny with all the phone stuff.
Starting point is 01:24:05 They're screwed. I was reading. I was reading with, you know, it's completely back and forth. I got some shit. I want to fuck
Starting point is 01:24:13 this guy up. This guy's, it goes on forever, this phone recordings here. So, Homicide Superintendent Kevin Hackett said of this,
Starting point is 01:24:22 it is vital to remove the illusion of invincibility these individuals use to intimidate others and expand their violence and illegal operations. These charges bring very well-known gang members before the courts to face justice and send a vital message to all criminals
Starting point is 01:24:36 and prospective gang members that they will be held accountable for their actions. Good. So they're basically saying, we're trying to send a message to clean this shit up because this is getting out of fucking hand at this point. We don't want any more civilians killed. Good. So they're basically saying we're trying to send them a message to clean this shit up because this is getting out of fucking hand at this point.
Starting point is 01:24:47 We don't want any more civilians killed. No. Now they plead guilty to this. Guess what else happens? Now they're still on the hook for first degree murder remember of Jonathan Barber.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Yep. Murder charges of Jonathan Barber are stayed. They fucking stay them. What? They stay. This is twice now where he has clearly
Starting point is 01:25:04 had something to do with shotgun murders and they're like can't quite prove we don't have enough we don't have enough we're gonna we're gonna hold off on that law so all he's charged this is only on conspiracy now and it's a deal too he gets um he fucking please why yeah he pled to the church he pled guilty yeah so the crown spokesman ne Neil McKenzie, said why the murder charges were stayed. He said, quote, the evidence that will be put forward in the proceeding does not establish that any of these accused
Starting point is 01:25:35 were directly involved in the death of Mr. Barber or the attempted murder of Ms. King, which makes them sound much less trashier than some stereo installed that got shot by bikers. That makes them sound... Some guy that was probably wearing shorts. Mr. Bobber and Ms. King. He's all sweaty and he's got wire cutter marks all over his hands.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Oh, yeah. From whatever the shit he's doing. From the butt connectors and cutting dashes. At this point, he is in prison. He's just pled guilty to conspiracy. At one point, he is in prison. He's just pled guilty to conspiracy. At one point, he was a wrestler. He had a business. He had a biker.
Starting point is 01:26:10 He had a lot of stuff going on, and now he's here. What more could happen, Jimmy? Where's that Mexican pimp? A Mexican pimp bursts through the door, pours him a drink, and asks him... How is it you've come to arrive here?
Starting point is 01:26:32 Excuse me, hold on. Wait, shawarma man should say it. How is it you've come to arrive here? Huh? You want shawarma? That's why you come here? You want the shawarma I make for you? Why are you here?
Starting point is 01:26:49 You say you pay me money then you don't give to us. Why are you here? Sign says closed. Sign says closed. You want shawarma? You get no shawarma. Sign says closed. Sign says closed.
Starting point is 01:26:57 So yeah, he is now, in 2013, he's given a 13-year sentence minus credit for pre-trial custody and a whole bunch of other pre-trial shit that he was in for. You know what his final sentence is out of 13 years? Six. Four years, eight months.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Holy shit. That's his net sentence that they give him. For conspiracy to commit murder. To commit murder of many people. Not just of one person, of a shitload of people. Unbelievable. Not to mention he's blown of a shitload of people. Unbelievable. Not to mention he's blown up police stations, shot a defense attorney. He's done some really bad things.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Drug trafficking, assault, conspiracy, extortion, weapons possession. This is in 2012? This is 2013. Oh my God. So this is like now. Yeah. So January 31st, 2015, he's up for parole already. After only a year and a half of a four-year, eight-month sentence,
Starting point is 01:27:45 he's already up for parole. Are they overcrowded? It's Canada. They have nothing but room. They're too nice. They clearly don't put people away. Second biggest country on earth. They have 30 million people.
Starting point is 01:27:55 They have plenty of room. Build a bigger fucking jail if you can't keep this guy. I'm sorry. Stick him in an unused hockey arena. You must have some that are decommissioned. All the population is right on our border. Yeah. Like, they can't wait to come down to us, it seems like.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Build a fucking giant prison just up north. Yeah, just go north where it's all empty. It's all empty anyway. Put them up there. He doesn't even need a shirt. It doesn't matter how cold it is. So a board member said of him, as the board's statement said, quote, you denied being a member of the UN gang.
Starting point is 01:28:27 However, you stated that you did associate with high-ranking members of this criminal organization. You told the board that you were drunk and hanging out with some bad people that you were trying to impress. You denied being a big player in the conspiracy. However, you did tell the board that when the hired killer didn't do his job job you stepped up and said that you would do the murders for ten thousand dollars a piece he offered yeah to do them uh he claimed that he would quote never kill anyone and he only pleaded guilty to move on with his life that's he's saying he's like guys i didn't even do it i just wanted to move on with my life i just want to plead guilty so i can go to prison it was cramping my style.
Starting point is 01:29:05 Right. All this heat. Yeah. I can't deal with this. They also... All this bullshit. It's alleged bullshit. He claimed that he was a family man now and wanted to leave crime behind and get legitimate work.
Starting point is 01:29:17 I'm good now. Yeah. I only shot a bunch of people and blew police down. I'm fine. Now I'm good. Now I'm good. It's like the Dave Meggett thing. He had an immoral epiphany now. It's all in the Biblegett thing where he's like, he had a moral epiphany now.
Starting point is 01:29:26 It's all in the Bible. He had everything mentioned in the Bible. The board pointed out his, quote, ongoing association with gang members in prison, including being accused of ordering the beating of an inmate by two other inmates on December 30th, 2014, which is a month before
Starting point is 01:29:42 he's on trial, on his parole. They pointed out, quote, the intimidation of other offenders as well as involvement in the institutional drug subculture for him. Wow. He said, in his own words, defending himself on the prison beating, he said, quote, I am no angel, but I had nothing to do with the assault of that inmate. Me?
Starting point is 01:30:02 What? Me? Guys, you don't know me. You don't know me you don't know me never i'm sweet i'm sweet as candy guys fix your motorcycle candy sell you a jeep i'm so kind absolutely then the board said that they stated that uh that he stated that he could make good money trafficking and found the lifestyle exciting because they're going right off the phone taps here. And then they say to him, this is wonderful. On almost every aspect of your criminal record,
Starting point is 01:30:30 you downplayed your involvement in criminal activities and deflected blame onto other associates and even a police detective who investigated you in Ontario for murder. You, sir, may fuck off, parole denied, asshole. Which is what they do, by the way.
Starting point is 01:30:46 You said you didn't do it. Well, yeah, that's what they do. Yeah, they're going to say they didn't do it. He wants out. So that's January 31st, 2015. Now, after that, Jared Bacon, we'll get to a little Bacon update. Jared Bacon is serving prison time.
Starting point is 01:31:01 He's serving 12 years for drug trafficking. He got a heavier sentence than conspiracy to commit murder. Of him, even. Of himself. I get a worse sentence than the guy
Starting point is 01:31:10 who wanted to kill me? What the fuck? And then Jamie was charged with first degree murder for a huge crazy thing that would take a whole other episode
Starting point is 01:31:18 to get into. It's called the Surrey Six Murders in October of 07, which is outside of Vancouver, Surrey. And this was a murder where two bystanders were killed, too. So too innocent, just didn't even know the people
Starting point is 01:31:31 got killed. So it was a huge deal. But he never wrestled, so fuck him. He didn't wrestle. He can eat shit, Mr. Bacon. If he was Kevin Bacon, we'd talk about it. Now, of the Gill Bank murder, there is still a $65,000 reward and offers of immunity. If anybody knows anything, if you know anything, call 905-546-3829. That's the Hamilton Police Department Major Crimes Unit. They give you $65,000. I don't know country codes or whatever.
Starting point is 01:31:58 You guys have to figure that out. You'll have immunity and you can get somebody locked up that's an asshole. No problem, right? So now that was, he was denied parole January 31st, 2015. Good, thank God. You, sir, may fuck off. Up for parole again
Starting point is 01:32:12 on September 2nd, 2016, a fucking week ago, and they paroled him. Oh my God, he's out. This guy's out. He's out. He's on the street. He's gonna fucking kill me.
Starting point is 01:32:23 He's gonna kill me. Do you understand that? He's gonna listen to this and. He's on the street. He's going to fucking kill me. He's going to kill me. Do you understand that? He's going to listen to this and be so angry. This whole episode, all I'm thinking, you don't understand, I did all this research.
Starting point is 01:32:32 That's the last thing I found somehow chronologically. And I went, oh my God, this guy's out. He's going to fucking kill me. He's a crazy biker who doesn't seem to like
Starting point is 01:32:41 people talking bad about him. He hires people to kill them. Tuesday morning, there's going to be a Jeep that rumbles to a start in Calgary or somewhere in fucking Canada. I'm telling you. And all the way down I-17, he's going to go. Anybody, if you see anybody heading south from Canada in a Jeep with no shirt on, let me know.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Tweet me. At Jimmy P is funny. On Twitter, let me know. He's coming to kill you and Jimmy too but probably me more he's gonna kill me he's gonna beat me with Jimmy
Starting point is 01:33:12 that's what he's gonna do he's gonna show up and go you Jimmy he's gonna hold you by your feet and beat you to death gotta talk to you
Starting point is 01:33:17 about some alleged bullshit and shove the cricket bat up our ass I heard you've been talking some alleged bullshit it's just alleged bullshit. Heard you got a cricket bat. I would love to see that. It's just a show, man. Just
Starting point is 01:33:29 alleged bullshit. Relax. He's ordered to, he's got to live in a halfway house and not have contact with any criminals, obviously. That was the main reason, by the way, I didn't say it. You've been arrested? I've been arrested. He can't touch me. He can't touch you, no. He can't come near me.
Starting point is 01:33:45 No, he's going to... No, he's... I don't think he cares. He's going to blow your house up. God damn it. I'm worried about this. So do not give him our address if he asks you for it. Neither of our addresses.
Starting point is 01:33:56 You don't know us. Yeah. We perform this show from international waters on a small, small barge. Small rowboat. Just a small barge out in the Caribbean. It's very hard to find. And we're protected by trained sharks. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:34:09 And jeeps do not reach it. They do not reach it. Sorry, buddy. We are protected by Ben Kramer. Unbelievable. He's out. I can't believe that. He's out.
Starting point is 01:34:17 He's out. With all that shit he's been through. And he's fucking out now. This guy's wandering around. You can go up to Canada. You can go out for a beer and run into this guy. Unbelievable. See a shirtless man with a true to the crew tattoo. Holy shit. I'm walking out now. This guy's wandering around. You can go up to Canada. You can go out for a beer and run into this guy. Unbelievable. See a shirtless man with a true to the crew tattoo.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Holy shit, I'm in trouble. And don't tell him where I live. Just still say that. And that's this goddamn lunatic. Mr. John. Mr. John Krytoru. Krytoru. Have we had a bigger lunatic than that?
Starting point is 01:34:41 Fucking Johnny Canine. What a lunatic. Johnny Canine's insane. I don't want to know him. At first I wanted to meet him. Right up until he blew up the police station. Right up until he allegedly blew up the police station. I want nothing to do with this man now.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Everybody else drinks and drives. Or even if they kill their girlfriend for whatever reason. This guy is just a fucking Batman villain. He's reckless. He's crazy. He's just reckless. He's a crazy biker gang.. He's a crazy biker gang. He's like a movie biker gang.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Yeah. You would be like, bikers gangs can't be that crazy. They are. He's like the bad guy in Raising Arizona. Yeah. He's like that.
Starting point is 01:35:13 That's him. That's him. I'm telling you. That's him or at least one of his buddies. That's what he is. He knows that man. Oh, it's his buddy.
Starting point is 01:35:20 That's his pal. He's met him before. He was a co-conspirator in one of those cases. He's one of the un-gang. Holy shit. So that's that guy. Good's met him before. He was a co-conspirator in one of those cases. He's one of the un-gang. Holy shit. So that's that guy. Good lord.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Fucking Johnny King. I hope you guys enjoyed that. Let's do some shout-outs quick here before we run out of time. Let's talk about Jaybird, Wedbetter, Every Week Being Amazing, and Busby. Those two are fucking super, super fans. We love them, obviously. And Manj Senga. I love Manj.
Starting point is 01:35:45 He tells me that I pronounce that wrong. I don't know how to pronounce that. Sanja, Senga. Sanja. I don't even know if it's Manj. It may be. That J may be silent. It just may be man.
Starting point is 01:35:54 I don't know what the fuck your name is, but you appear to be an Indian fella. Yeah. In Britain. And you like our show and we goddamn love you. Yeah. And we love your hashtag,
Starting point is 01:36:04 your pudding boy hashtag and everything else. Thank you. We love your hashtag, your Pudding Boy hashtag and everything else. Thank you. We love you, dude. We have a new guy named Chris Brown. I do not believe it's the one that beat up Rihanna. I looked to check just to make sure. Blind Buddy. He's a good guy, though.
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Starting point is 01:36:53 We don't have a network. We don't have... We have each other. We have each other and we have you guys. That's it. That's what I'm talking about. Each other. I wasn't saying it to you.
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Starting point is 01:39:12 week yeah that's insane that's crazy guys thank you okay guys thank you spread it let's get it let's see how high we can go in the uk thank you you fucking guys thank you and i like to our uh thank you once again and always to Sarah Hunt our social media person who puts up all the cool pictures and all the cool memes and all the little things that's all her. The pictures of Frankie she makes that she takes all the pictures of Frankie. Photo sessions of a god damn dog
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