Crime in Sports - #331 - Style, Murder & Pee - The Flamboyantness of Hector "Macho" Camacho

Episode Date: November 29, 2022

This week, we check out one of the most flamboyant, wild, and successful boxers who has ever lived. His outfits. His crazy entrances. And even his in ring style was different from all the rest. Unfortunately, his style of getting arrested was also very different. Whether it's having sex, while driving a Ferrari on the freeway, or just dropping through an electronics store ceiling, to steal lap tops, and urinate in the fax machine. He fought cops, regular people, his wife, and his girlfriend, in the street. All of this while being on an insane amount of cocaine! In the end, the whole thing is a murder mystery, for the ages!!Call going to Rikers Island "just having some fun", snort more cocaine by yourself than most mid sized cities, and have one of your girlfriends & your sister fight at your funeral with Hector "Macho" Camacho!!Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!  Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman  Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail]  Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com  Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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That said, I think it's time to get into this because we got a whole lot of insanity. All right. This is this is one of those that say this story, there's so much crime. There's so much insanity. Even his sports stuff is insane. Like, even that's crazy. So let's do it with Hector Luis Camacho Matias Jr. What?

Of course. Is that right? Hector Macho Camacho. Do you know of Hector Macho Camacho, Jimmy? I love him. He's wonderful. What a boxer. He's one of the first guys to make his ring entrance a big showpiece.

Wearing a crazy costume, having a bunch of people, having crazy music. That didn't go down back then like that. Ali had a little bit of a thing couple guys had something but this is like neck what guys do now it's a big giant presentation it's like wrestling where the ring entrance is just as important as the as the match or the fight so but what a boxer holy shit oh he's a great fighter he's a great fighter he is one of the guys I remember growing up my stepmother's father i've said was a boxing trainer and he had a gym you know and guys would train in there and he had

all the equipment in a fucking ring and on the walls were covered in you know boxers from magazines just put up everywhere and like things and i remember there was a shitload of macho camacho up there i remember it's like a little kid being like, wow, this guy's fucking crazy. Like I remember just watching him, like reading the articles about him and watching his looking at his crazy haircuts and ring outfits. And he's got his haircut like a goddamn checkerboard. He's wearing just a giant Puerto Rican flag outfit with a he's nuts. He's funny as shit. So he's born May 24th, 1962 here. here um yeah yeah he's a older guy here 60 year old man 60 he was born in bayamon puerto rico here which is uh one of the cities that make up the like the

san juan area it's a suburb of san juan i guess here so uh he's born there his parents are of course hector luis camacho senior him being junior obviously this is so much this is double junior he's a junior and we'll talk about his kid it's it's a lot so and his wife his mother's name is maria maria matias that's where that comes from he's the second youngest of five his younger brother felix is also a boxer we'll talk about his record and what he does felix camacho and so is hector's son as well so is that right a lot of boxing in this family he's got sisters named raquel australia and esperanza that's got an esperanza there's an esperanza in that family it's's a good one. That's a fun name to yell across the house. Esperanza!

Esperanza! You stole my Nintendo game! Esperanza! It's very, you can really, like, from a mountaintop. Esperanza! It's a good name. Very solid. So when he was three, his parents separated.

Oh? So, yeah, his parents separate, and his mother moves everybody to New York. Oh. And that's where he grows up. Yeah, so he ends up growing up in New York. He grows up in Spanish Harlem. That's where they live. The James Weldon Johnson Housing Project in Spanish Harlem.

Son of a bitch. Yeah, he comes up tough times up there in Spanish Harlem. Is that likely an upgrade from a suburb of San Juan? At the time, possibly. It's possible, yeah. It was deteriorating badly during the 60s, and then the 70s is like the heyday, and then crack came in in the early.

So, I mean, it was falling apart pretty bad at that point. But Camacho attends six different high schools, they say. This is in like two years because he gets kicked out of all of them, and then he's not in school after a while. He gets kicked out of schools left and right. He's a hyperactive maniac. he gets kicked out of schools left and right. He's a hyperactive maniac. Like what you see in the ring and to describe him quickly, I guess we kind of have to give an overview of this guy as a boxer.

First of all, you need to Google search a picture of Hector Macho Camacho in the ring or on the way ring entrance, something like that, where you can see the flamboyance of the outfits and the, he always had a crazy quote. It was his whole style. Everybody says that's not an act.

That's just how he is. Yeah. There's a quote later on where they're like, yeah, you know how like most guys will do this big flamboyant act and they change into street clothes and they leave. This guy puts on a crazier outfit and then goes out in the street. He's a different,

he's a different kind of cat. He puts on a lion skin and leaves. And then he he just yeah no one with the head just sitting above with like an open mouth you know sitting on top of his head that's that's the type of shit he would wear with a giant down the street he has a huge huge excuse me by the way i'm sorry if my voice is a little bit bad this week we got back from the road just got back from the road and i think i caught some oklahoma in there somewhere i don't know we were in oklahoma i'm not sure what that is they just call it the the oklahoma funk town out of you i think i'm sure i'm still trying to get it out that walk to 7-eleven that i made and this was great i walked to 7-eleven 11 o'clock at night

and i took an uber back because it was it was like over a half a mile away, and it was freezing outside. So I take an Uber back, and I get in the car, and he goes, you walked here? And I said, yeah. And he goes, congratulations on being alive. And then he pulled out of the parking lot. I was like, I don't think this is a good neighborhood. So that's why I caught something.

So he's always getting in trouble. He's always getting into street fights. He's getting into, we'll talk about shoplifting and car theft and all sorts of street shit. He's running around on the street. He's like defiant to his mom, too, in a way that's not. Well, it's very strange. There's a guy named Pat Flannery, and he's a language teacher in his high school. And he helped Hector learn to read at age 15 yikes yeah so he went to till 15 without even knowing how to read which is a reason also why he would be cutting up if he doesn't understand

anything that's going on in school because he can't read he's going to try to distract from that yeah don't don't call on me right don't call on me i'm standing on my desk jumping up and down saying i'm the macho man you don't yeah i'm not the guy to ask to read the poetry down and read page six exactly so he uh he taught him to read and according to hector he acted like a father figure to him because Hector didn't have his dad around. And Flannery says, quote, try to imagine him in a classroom vaulting through an open window with a window with a window pole jumping over podiums. He said that's how he would just bounce around. He said that he never did anything bad. Really, he said, quote, he was just playful, though, really playful, never did anything remotely evil.

He says it wasn't it wasn't really bad shit. quote he was just playful though really playful never did anything remotely evil he says so it wasn't it wasn't really bad shit he was just a pain in the ass because he's got there's way too much energy yeah exactly he'll it was replaceable he'll get into things he's more the type you go oh hector what are you doing man you know like come on not yeah not like oh my god he's hurting that kid he just he just put a knife to somebody's throat. That's not really his game in school. He gets into shoplifting, and he said he loved it. He said he learned to shoplift at a young age.

He loved shoplifting. He said it was great. You just walk in, and you take shit for free that you don't have the money for. It's amazing. He thought of it as like, nobody ever think of this before you just take it so i also loved it it was a big man well yeah well hector he's in another level i think though as we'll we'll talk about here not just one um sega genesis game here we're talking about he okay his at one point, he had built up a collection of 30 G.I. Joe figures that he stole.

OK. OK. That's pretty good. We're talking those are the big boys from the 60s, early 70s. Not your little. Oh, you're right. Yeah. We're talking the fucking.

These things had hair. Yeah. They're big. They're not the little fuckers. You can hide them all over. These big things are huge. They come in a big box and everything. He had 30 of them that he'd stole, and his mother found them and said, well, you don't have any money, and I didn't buy these for you, so you must have stole them.

So she took them all and threw them in the incinerator. Oh, my God. How about the Salvation Army or, I don't know, whatever your charity is, the church down the street that gives out toys at Christmas. How about that? The incinerator? Or just incinerator keep them i'm a hero to myself at least yeah they're there anyway or you know what you do actually if you really want to fuck give them give them all to his brother that's what you do you're not allowed to play with them hector only your brother is he would hate that that's what you do he's he's won 30 times, Mom. Just let him be. His quote about it in Sports Illustrated at a later date is wild.

He says, quote, the next day I come back, I got 34 G.I. Joes. Got the airplane, got the helicopter, got a starship. What? He went out and just stole the entire G.I. Joe line and brought it home. He was like, what's up with that? You throw these away i'll get fucking stretch armstrong two tomorrow i'll come back with all the gi joes stretch armstrong and a set of jarts don't fucking test me test me bitch i swear

he's all about it placed it and i got Suck it. Suck these Cobra nuts. So that's what he's got here. He gets into, he finds boxing and Flannery kind of guides him into it because it's like, hey, you have lots of energy and aren't real good at reading. You like to punch things. Maybe this is good for you. You know? Yeah. you like to punch things maybe this is good for you you know yeah so he learned to box and he also took karate when he was a teenager as well okay which as a teenager in the mid-70s was the that

was a peak of karate everybody bruce lee was everybody bruce lee was like everybody's favorite human being back then so that is fascinating that every generation has had a martial artist guy uh that's been like the guy you know what i mean from bruce lee on there's always been a guy always been well it's always been trying to fill the bruce lee role which no one ever has because bruce lee was a cultural i mean he was a different type of thing man i mean that was everybody tried to be bruce lee like people look watch jackie ch they were like, hey, look at him bounce around. But it wasn't like, oh, I gotta be him. Nobody thought that. The difference is Bruce Lee had philosophy

mixed in with it all. You know what I mean? It was being a good person, not just fighting people. Jackie Chan was being bullied and everything. Yeah. He always played a dumb guy who could just happen to be... And it was almost like he was like, oh, wow, I didn't even know i could fight was the look on his face wow i know how

to do this somehow like a like he'd been programmed at another time yeah see i just tied a bunch of people together with a piece of rope and i didn't even know i could do that and then i can't even swung the ladder around my neck and i hit everybody. It was cool. I've never climbed a ladder. I've never tied my shoes. I wear slacks. I don't know how to tie. I wear Velcro since I was five. The sad part is our age growing up, our martial arts icon was Ralph Macchio. So that's even sadder.

That was ours. For me especially. For me it was like there's this Italian kid from Jersey. Yeah, he's the best karate guy in the world. Look at him go. Oh, put your fists together, swing them back and forth like that fucking thing. I don't care how much bigger he is or if he's doing this since he was two fucking years old. You could beat him that way.

That was karate Rocky is what I've always called it. It was just karate rocky i swear to god i like and his movies were so dumb he's a horrible they were bad yeah yeah they were like that fucking accent i can't i can't i have a hard time understanding him i have a hard time understanding him sometimes it's one of those accents all he's saying is i'm gonna punch you in the face that's true i guess if you're threatening a throat punch you don't really need nuance of language at that point yeah i guess you're right you're right jimmy when you're right you're right man yeah listen if you're punching somebody you can suck all the croissant you want if you can

kick two guys that are on the opposite side of you at the same time i feel like at that point you're talking is really null and void doesn't really say whatever you want doesn't matter suck my croissant is what he's saying to people and then he kicks them in the face so anyway here we uh camacho starts enters gold glove competitions and things like that and does amateur boxing. People see immediately that he's got talent for it. Number one, he's got the energy. Number two, he has no fear. He really just doesn't have fear. He's one of those guys that, you know, whether he's driving 120 miles an hour or he's in the ring against, you know, Felix Trinidad, he doesn't fear anything.

He's just, you know. He'll eat a punch yeah he's not afraid and he's never he can never knocked out in his whole career he fights 88 fights he never gets knocked out he barely gets knocked down and he's this is from you know what 135 up to welterweight up to the you know he was fighting 154 at the end for christ's sake so yeah well he was in his 40s. So, yeah. Put on a couple. So, his younger brother, Felix, ends up a 20 and 6 lifetime fighter as well.

Not bad. Felix Camacho. So, he fights in the gold gloves. By 1978, he's fought in the gold gloves. He has a son at age 15 as well. What? Oh, yeah. He fathers a son at age 15, Hector Jr.

At 15. At 15, or as he's known as Machito, a little macho. There he is, a little macho. So that's the guy there. Junior here is Machito. He goes, in his career, he ends up 58-7. 58-7-1 in his career.

That's not bad. No, it's fucking really good. That's pretty fucking amazing. For me to never have heard of him. 32 wins by knockout as well. Wow. Out of 58 wins. I mean, that's really good.

He was known in 2007, 2007 10 14 and 16 he won the wbc uh caribbean boxing federation light middle middleweight title so did he call him hector the uh junior because his dad's not around and it's kind of like uh is that a slight to his dad because he's technically the third he's technically a third but i that's one of those where if you just call him, say he's a junior, he's also a junior, I guess. You don't have to make him the third. He is a junior. I guess he cut his dad off like it didn't exist. Yeah, right.

Later on, they call Hector, you know, that we're talking about, not the son. They call him Hector Camacho Sr. So, yeah, just fuck my dad. Yeah, that's a slight for sure. I bet it is, yeah. Fuck my dad. Yeah, that's a slight for sure. I bet it is, yeah.

So at this time, he's got all this going on. Gold gloves, kid, shoplifting, G.I. Joe collections. He's got it all happening. 15. Now he's stealing cars. And he's stealing cars before this, but this is when he starts to get caught a lot is the problem. In New York. In New York City, yeah. First time he's caught in a chase driving a Ford Pinto.

He stole a Pinto. That's not very bright. I'm sorry. Doesn't he know? You don't steal a Pinto. Didn't they have a bad reputation for being a lemon when they first came out? I don't know if they, I think the first couple years, I think they were thought of as good cars, and then they said,

oh, shit, they explode. That's not good. And then they turned into the Samsung fucking whatever model phone of cars. And that was that. And then they were a joke for the rest of eternity. So he takes a Pinto on a 30 block car chase. Not a good car to be running from. If they pit maneuver you, that thing's gonna explode you're gonna pop so and then finally he is also uh caught joyriding in a stolen car with a friend

who's driving so this apparently happens a lot and this line lands him in rikers island oh my he's 16 years old he serves three and a half months in Rikers Island for Grand Theft Auto. Holy shit. That's hard fucking time for a 16-year-old in Rikers. But lucky for him, he's a fucking gold gloves boxer at this point and not the first cat to fuck with, really. Even though he's small, he's a little guy. He's 130 pounds. He'll light your ass up like a Christmas tree. I wouldn't want to mess with him.

So he serves that. a christmas tree i wouldn't want to mess with him yeah so uh he serves that he he he's kind of like he says later on quote it was my way of having fun stealing cars stealing cars yeah he said it was my way of having fun if i stole a car in my mind i was borrowing it it was just part of a game i'm young 15 or 16 i'm having fun can i get away with it or not a game right that's not actor you're a father yeah what would you tell your son about that actor jesus now go back to math class what the fuck is happening you sophomore he's 60 he's a child this is ridiculous this is why you don't have kids when you're 15 because you say things like, isn't it fun to steal cars? It's just a game.

It's a game. Wow. So, yeah, there was a the big rumor around him was that he only took the best cars. He stole all these really nice cars. And there was like this big rumor later on that he would steal them and then he would wash them and wax them and do all that. And even that he would fill them up with gas and then return them to them and wax them and do all that and that even that he would fill them up with gas and then return them to where he found them eventually kind of seeing all these filthy cars with no gas in them yeah i'm gonna take it for a little spin but i'm gonna bring it back to

you better than i had better than when i got it you know what i'm saying really i'm just wiping my fingerprints off it but that's all but the byproduct is that it's shiny they asked him quote that part might be exaggerated he says he said uh once i did fill a car up at a gas station and peel out without paying so yeah i guess that could be filling up a victim's car that's what he said stole a car stole gas why not yeah he's like you know i filled that one up. I used it by driving around. But so he ends up in jail and he's a mess. And why is he here? And it's actually an older inmate that talks to him. Somebody that had some respect actually heard about, you know, his life and was like, you're 16.

You got a kid. You're a gold gloves boxer. Like you're a real up and comer. No shit boxer. And he said, quote, what are you doing here fuck you doing here dude yeah and hector went yeah what the fuck am i doing here this is stupid why am i doing this i should take my car stealing time because he wasn't even doing it for money it was just fun it wasn't like he had it it's a game yeah he wasn't like gone in 60 seconds in this shit like

you know he didn't have a chop shop with an order. He's just picking it up, driving it around, fucking ditching it somewhere. That's stupid. It's fucking dumb. A holy grail of vehicles. He's just grabbing a Buick because a Buick's available. Yeah, he was driving a Pinto. That's proof that he was not discriminating about cars. Yeah.

So his amateur fight career starts before this. And then there's a you'll see that he fights. He ends up fighting 100 fights. I have a couple of them here. A lot of them are in the Felt Forum, Madison Square Garden, for the Golden Gloves. Right before he went to prison, he fights and wins the Sub-Novice Class Championship New York State Golden Gloves title. He does that then in 1979 he's in the 118 pound division of the new york state golden gloves and he's kicking ass all through

that he becomes champion of that beats a guy named paul divorce which is a great name d-e-v-o-r-c-e paul divorce it's a good it. It's definitely pronounced Divorce. That's what's great about it. It's the only one that went wrong. Pauly Divorce. You go with Divorce, I think, if you're him. It's Divorce, all right? So he does all that.

He also beats a guy named Jesse Torres for the New York versus Chicago Intercity Golden Gloves Championship. He beats him as well. That's a thing? Uh-huh. Yeah, he's doing pretty good here. Here is a 1979, there's an article by a guy named Randy Gordon. It's not from 1979.

This is from later on, but this guy knows him all the way back. He's a boxing writer, been around forever, also was involved in promotions i think and he uh he he's known him since camacho was 15 years old so he writes a yeah he you know 40 years later he writes an article about him and he says quote i first met camacho when he was a teenage amateur star fighting out of spanish harlem in new york. When I began my career at Ring Magazine in 1979, Camacho used to come up to our Manhattan

office on a regular basis. On a few occasions, he brought his infant son, Hector Jr., with him. That's hilarious. Always. As little Hector played, his dad talked about boxing with me and my staff. His presence and glow used to override even the thick cigar smoke from Burt Sugar's private paper-strewn office. That's great that Burt Sugar's in there smoking cigars.

That's awesome. He says, quote, Camacho visited my office regularly. He'd constantly tell Burt and me how he was going to be champ one day, saying, quote, it's inevitable that I'm going to be champ. Nothing can stop me. That's how he is. No fear.

After a while, however, we realized his late teenage testosterone was running amok and that he was coming up to coming up to visit two of our lovely Puerto Rican secretaries at least as much as he was coming up to visit us. He loves ladies. We're talking in public, in a car while he's driving. We'll talk about that. There's so many stories of him with women. He then goes on to say, quote, he was also there to visit two of the stock boys we employed to share a few lines of blow with them. I used to admonish them all, but it was of no use.

Wow. As the habits of the stock boys grew and as the ring records books disappeared at an alarming rate, Bert and I dismissed the stock boys, preserving the record books and other ring material for consumers. Camacho didn't care. He still had his Puerto Rican beauties. They, on the other hand, wanted no part of his attraction to cocaine or his attraction to them. What they wanted was his charm and boyish charisma. Nothing more.

They were smart. So that's him as a kid. He's just insatiable in every way, shape, or form. It's boxing. It's coke. It's attention. It's multiple women. It's this. It's that. It's going out. It's look at my outfit. He's just he's all energy. He's human cocaine. That's what

he is. He's a human stimulant. And he's been doing it oh yeah he's good at it too i don't know how the hell he does it for so long um either way though he's going in here he uh he wins all like i said all these golden gloves titles and everything like that uh in his in his uh amateur career he had 100 fights apparently and he was 96 and 4 as an amateur as an amateur and you could lose those so there's three rounders with He had 100 fights, apparently, and he was 96-4 in 100 fights. As an amateur. And you could lose those.

So there's three rounders with headgear on them. So it's like you could lose those on points so easily just against somebody who's kind of slippery. Or even just better at not getting hit once in a while. So now the nickname Macho, obviously the word is in his last name. Right. So it's not too hard to just cut the C-A off. I think his last name literally means very macho. Mucho Macho is his last name.

He says that his father says that his father claims to have given him the nickname, saying that it was because he was his youngest son. So he called him Macho, which I don't know why he would do that. The New York Times at one point printed that Pat Flannery, his teacher and mentor there, is the one who gave it to him during his teens. mentor there is the one who gave it to him during his teens but hector himself says that the nickname came because on job sites he was working when he was first starting out boxing co-workers at a factory couldn't pronounce camacho so they just call him macho it was just easier to cut it off so they all call you a macho instead of camacho how white are these people? I don't know. He was, I don't know. It's not that hard of a name. Maybe he was training upstate somewhere,

like way fucking upstate, like north of Customado. I have no goddamn idea, because that's... Or maybe a little more west, over in fucking Redding or something. They train in Lake Placid, but that's not till later.

So one guy said, a lot of guys came in with outfits and costumes, but they go back to the locker room. They take them off and they go walk out in their street clothes. Camacho was completely authentic. He was just as comfortable being outside of the ring as he was inside of the ring with some of these costumes. Multiple people say that he makes his pro debut september 12th 1980 at the felt forum which is the smaller arena inside madison square garden holds about 5 000 um tiny little place tiny little well madison square garden holds 20 so you know in comparison it's uh he fights david brown who's oh one and one and Hector wins by points. Four rounds is the distance here.

So 1-0. Next up, a couple months later, December 12, 1980, felt for him. He fights a guy who's 0-1 named Benny Llanos, and he's 0-4 for his career, so you know how this goes. Hector knocks him out in the first round for his first knockout in 2-0. March 12, 1981. So there's some lag there. It's for a young fighter.

That's a big difference in time. He's got a kid, man. Yeah, really. He's working at a factory. Couldn't get off work. It felt for him. He fights Herman Ingram, who also, I guess, after finding religion, changed his name to Hasan Ali. But I don't know if it was about religion or just the fact that

he was 1-9-1 coming into this fight and ended up 6-23-1 maybe he just wanted to hide a little bit after this embarrassing fucking career Hector beats him by decision 3-0 March 27th, 81 which is a couple weeks later, now he's fighting

he fights Robert Johnson who's also 1-9-1's fighting he fights robert johnson who's also one nine and one coming in he fights two guys in a row whose records were one nine and one what are the odds of that that's sounds on purpose i'm pretty decent at math but i don't know that's that's pretty pretty remarkable yeah this robert johnson ends up 216 and one for his career so not very good uh knock out in the first round for hector here in april of 81 he fights jerry strickland who comes into the fight at 9 and 53 yikes man nine wins 53 losses his career totals here holy shit 13 wins 123 losses holy shit what do you think how much money does it do you make

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on Apple Podcasts. Oh, man, couldn't get it in the lines. So second round knockout for Hector. So now he's 5-0. He's knocking people out. He's knocked everybody out. Well, three out of five anyway. Doing well.

In May, like a week later, May 2nd, he's fighting Tomas Enrique Diaz, who he's 1-4. He sucks. Hector beats him by decision. We'll go through these early ones quick here. May 16th, 81, at the Concord Resort Hotel in Keyamesha Lake. I think that is Concord, New Hampshire, maybe? I don't know. Is that there?

I don't know if there's any other Concord. It's got to be New Hampshire, right? Yeah, maybe. I have no idea. Either way, he fights a guy named Kato Ali, who is certainly, I hope, not related to any of the boxing Alis because this guy's 0-6 coming in and his career ends up at 0-17 before he finally calls it a day. 0-17.

You don't want to give it until 20? I mean, if you go past 10, I don't know. I don't know what to tell you at that point. If you fight 10 fights and lose them all, you quit. You're not a boxer anymore, right? It's over. I mean, really, the point of boxing is that you're good at this, and if you've met 17 people in a row that are better than you. I could go 0-17.

You know, I could do that. No problem. I'll bet I could go 1-16. I'll bet I could. You just never know. You throw a couple haymakers, you might. Who knows if you get lucky. 0-17 is disgraceful.

That's terrible. I might catch catching guys sleeping. Yeah, who knows? So TKO and 7 for Hector here. He's 7-0. Next up, June 25, 1981, Madison Square Garden, the main room, baby. Not even a side room here. He fights Marichal Santiago, who's 4-10.

This goes all eight rounds. Unanimous decision for Hector. July 24th, 81, felt for him. Jesus Figueroa, 3-6-2, knockout in the first round, 9-0. You've seen how this goes. So here's some more stuff from Randy Gordon here. He says, quote, after telling me what he planned to do on Mullins, who is the next guy he's fighting, he says Camacho completely changed directions in his conversation. Quote, how do you think you're going to die, Randy?

He asked. They're just talking about a boxing match. And then he comes up with this quote. Huh? I looked up from my editing and Camacho said, how are you going to die? Did you ever think of that? He asked. I was 33 is what he's talking about.

To be honest, Hector, the thought has never crossed my mind. Really? He responded. I think about that a lot. I think about what's going to happen at the end. He's like 18 years old at this point. At what? Then the writer said, at what point and what do you come up with?

Do you have the same answer, the same ending each time then the writer said, at what point are, and what do you come up with? Do you have the same answer? The same ending each time? Hector said, I do. I really do want to guess how I see myself going out. I do. He said, not really is what the writer said. Hector said, come on, take a guess.

I looked at him wearing a puzzled look and sort of squinting. Come on. He continued. Take a guess. I reached for some ridiculous answers. A car wreck? He shook his head. A plane crash I came back with? Again, a head shake. You're going to die in bed with two women. He laughed. That's a great way to go, but not how I picture me going out. I give up, I told him. Then he says, one more guess, he requested of me. You're going to die in the greatest round of action in the greatest action fight ever, I said.

That would be pretty cool, he said. But no, that's not it. That would be pretty cool. Pretty cool to die in the ring. A lot of boxers actually say that, though. It would be pretty cool to die in the coolest. Yeah. So then he said, quote, how then do you see yourself dying, Hector?

Tell me. The suspense is overwhelming. He said, I see myself going out in a blaze of gunfire he said he stared right he stared right at me i stared back uh how i asked him will it be a firing squad somewhere are you going to hold up a bank and get taken down in a hail of swat team bullets as you try to escape where will you be when the where will you be when you buy the farm in a hail of bullets uh he said i don't know i don't see a whole picture i don't see any shooters i just see me going out that way he said i shook my head and used his pro used his prophecy to segue onto another track um actually i just realized how you're gonna go out i told him

how cocaine i said drugs because he takes a shitload of coke he said quote come on randy Realized how you're going to go out, I told him. How? Cocaine, I said. Drugs. Because he takes a shitload of coke. He said, quote, come on, Randy, chill out. I appreciate the big brother stuff, but I can handle this. I'm just having some fun. Stop being a bitch, Randy. Yeah. If you're 18 years old and you're knocking out grown men in fucking fights every month, you feel invincible at that.

Cocaine? Are you kidding me? Probably do it tomorrow. Yeah. Bitch, please. I am me? Probably do as well. Please. Yeah. Bitch, please. I am taking mad coke is what he's thinking. And this is 81-2 is still the, you know, coke, it's not bad. It's still innocent.

Yeah. It's still pretty innocent at that point. So September 16th, 1981, Madison Square Garden, he fights Robert Mullins, who's 25-2 coming into the fight here. This ends up being TKO in round six, 10-0 for Mr. Camacho. November 5th, 81, he fights Anthony Murray, who's 5-1 coming into the fight. This goes all 10 rounds, unanimous decision for Hector, 11-0. December 11th, 81, he's fighting for a title here. It's a shit title, but he's fighting for a title.

It is the North American Boxing Federation Super Featherweight title. NABF Super Featherweight. Yeah, that's a shit one, NABF. It's at the Felt Forum. It's against a guy named Blaine Dixon. That sounds like one of the Constance Fry. Blaine, Blaine, we need four. Blaine, please take your place in line.

You're the alto fucking douches. So he's 15 and three Blaine. This is this goes all 12 rounds where Hector wins a unanimous decision and his first belt since the Golden Gloves. And he's 12 and 0 February 15th,th 82 richmond hill arena in richmond hill new york he fights jorge nina who is 1 and 12 coming into the fight and will end up 3 and 24 jesus people are just gluttons for punishment i guess it's an extra couple hundred bucks every once in a while is probably the way they're looking at it. I don't know.

I can't imagine. All you have to do to train, though? Yeah, right. That's not worth it. Worse. A couple hundred bucks you make in a week at work. I'd rather just work a week and not get punched in the face 300 times. Well, yeah, I generally don't have to go to the hospital after every shift either, so that's helpful.

times well yeah i generally don't have to go to the hospital after every shift either so that's helpful rather rather take the hypothetical kick in the nuts than actually getting punched square in the nose over and over and over a unanimous decision in eight rounds so hector beat this guy up for eight rounds and then he went back to work doing whatever he did march 31st 82 rafael lopez he's fighting at the Felt Forum. This time, Rafael is 16-1. So this is the first. Oh, this is a real fighter. Good fighter he's fought.

And Macho TKO in the third round over this guy. Is that right? He brings it. 14-0 for Macho. May 21st, 82, against Refugio Rojas. Refugio. We. Refugio. We come from a long line of refugees. This is my son, Refugio.

He's the red refugee. Yeah, the red refugee. He's 21-9, the red refugee. And he might be running for the hills after this because he's knocked down three times in the first round, the red refugee. Holy shit. It is a TKO. It's waved off because the three three knockdown rule was in effect 15 and 0 for macho uh july 11th 82 he fights lewis loy who's 15 0 and 1 again good

fighter and macho knocks him out or tko in the seventh round bringing him to 16-0. August 28, 1982, the Sands Casino, Atlantic City. Oh, I didn't know there was one there. Yeah, neither did I, honestly. I almost wrote Vegas. I'm like, oh, it's in Atlantic City, this shithole. Wow. That one is a piece of shit in Vegas. It's got to be real bad in Jersey.

It was cool in like 62, but I mean, by the time the, you know, 82 came around, that was a, I think they were blowing it up pretty soon. Smells moist in here. Yeah. When did they blow that up? Like late 80s? I don't know. Early 90s or something? I just found out there was one there.

I don't know. No, I meant in Vegas. Oh, in Vegas? Yeah, that was when they were. Early 90s, I think. When they were really turning that place into somewhere that rich people go. Yeah. They wanted the dumps to go away.

That one is the Boardwalk. People are scared of that one, yeah. The Boardwalk had a- You got Circus Circus down the way that's all clowns all day long all the time. The Boardwalk just had one clown out front with a big lollipop that moved. It was creepy as fuck. Trying to lure in children. Come on in here.

There's a whole room full of pedophiles waiting on it. Think that clown will bring them in? Sure it will. Horrifying place. Circus Circus. It's too many clowns. It's overwhelming. Our one clown gives them something to focus on.

Circus Circus. The carpet was different than the carpet uh rail around the side you know that one yeah yeah yeah a lot of the biggest places do that that's very popular on the old strip yeah they had to replace that middle several several several times that's why they were like actually i like the contrast we'll leave the edge it's kind of cool it's still clean over there so uh at the sands that night he fights johnny sato who's 18 and 8 and knocks him out in the fourth round so 17 and 0 for macho he's coming up fast yeah he is october 30th 82 again back at the sands he fights melvin tank paul

so his first guy with a nickname yeah perfect uh 16 and 0 for melvin and he'll finish his career 22 and 8 this is a unanimous decision goes all 10 rounds yeah 18 and 0 for hector so he's doing well but he's also attracting kind of a kind of a scumbag contingent. Any kind of low-life, dirtbag, drug dealer, underworld kind of hanger-on scumbag, he just waves them all on into his entourage here. And that likely comes around through the coke. It's free drugs. Yeah, anybody with free drugs is more than welcome. That's how drugs work usually. Free drugs hey come on in what do you got drugs

it's universal pistol where's the coke yeah whatever whatever drugs you like if someone has those drugs you're gonna be hey come on especially coke back then because it was expensive yeah so uh randy gordon at this about this time said this writer again, quote, But I cringed at the creepers and low lives who permeated every one of his training camps. He enjoyed the hangers, the hangers on. And of course, they enjoyed the free ride, the lavish hotel suites, the late nights and the fast women. And of course, they all loved the cocaine.

It was like you see in the movies. It was all over the rooms he was just trying to randy's trying to paint a picture of a bad time but it sounds fucking great that's the thing it's as a 20 year old that sounds there's not a lot of 20 year olds are gonna go that sounds awful oh my god so wait a sec there's multiple women and your friends and drugs and lavish sweets and all that. No, that sounds awful. That's what the goal of leaving the house is when you're 20.

You hope to end up in somebody's lavish suite with coke and women all over the place. That's what you're looking for. That's best case scenario when you're 20 when you leave the house. Especially if you're like a boxing champion. you feel like impervious to pain anybody could punch me in the face and i won't even fall down that's your fuck

that's got to feel great and i'm the star of this room and there's pussy and tits out everywhere this is i'm a hero tits all the tits all the cocaine is mine that's what it is all the blow all the tits so november November 20th, 82, showboat hotel and casino, actually in Vegas. Not the some sort of weird knockoff Atlantic City GoBot version. So, he fights Greg the Candy

Man Coverson. Hey. Candy Man. Yeah. He's bringing the sweets. Candy Man is 29 and 0. So, you don't want to fuck with him yeah he will whack you with a jolly rancher so he turns out 30 and 2 in his career it doesn't last much longer this goes all 10 rounds unanimous decision for hector 19 and oh so he's beating the crushing life he's he's crushing it february 12th 83 wonder why he feels invincible you know yeah

um this is the bunker field house in anchorage alaska oh my he comes to the ring here wearing an enormous fur robe floor length like a boxing robe but made of fur of course he's trying to stay warm yeah i don't know where he got this thing but it's like a thirty thousand dollar fur it's more probably more than he got paid for the fight i don't know where he really was interested in his marketing here so he fights john junior montez no you don't want that 22 and 0 for junior montez though so he is you know doing quite well uh this is a knockout in the first round though he flies all the way up there to fight less than three minutes from harlem to anchorage is a long flight to fight for two and a half minutes here so that's just to russia

it's almost there from what i understand yeah so that's 20 and 0 for hector 20 and 0 is a big that's a big deal that's a milestone for a boxer so uh ed brophy who is the international uh the director of the international boxing hall of fame he said that camacho was bringing in a crowd at this point he was people were starting to notice him this is when he was getting all the magazines yeah he said quote camacho brought a lot of excitement to boxing he was bright colorful and always gave something to talk about with his walks to the ring with his unique style of entering and the costumes he wore and he also said he was not only that he was also a good fucking boxer fuck yeah so yeah most of the time people do that. It's to cover up for their inadequacies. He's a good fighter and does this. He described him as an exciting fighter and one of the greats. He faced the best going up and down several divisions. That's about his whole career. And he said if he wasn't the first, he was one of the first that entered the ring with the extravagant costumes, feather crests, bright clothes, everything to the rhythm of some pop song. Wrestling.

He's the first guy that looked at wrestling and went, oh, what the fuck are we doing? Look at me. He started coming in like the fabulous Freebirds. They're kind of given credit as the first one that really came to the ring in wrestling with a song and a fucking and the big things and all that.

Guys had robes and shit, but they didn't come into Freebird with a big fucking chicks carrying Confederate flags and shit. So it's almost like that's just what he's doing. He saw a lot of boxers did that. They saw wrestlers and went, well, yeah, that's how you get the box office up. I'm a real American, too. God damn it right look at me watch i'm gonna leg drop an iranian anytime now i will do it so april 3rd 83 phoenix civic plaza in phoenix is that right absolutely he fights downtown civic plaza downtown civic plaza uh earl Erlis Cubanito Perez he fights here.

25-0. This guy is. Not bad. Goes all 10 rounds and Hector gets the win. Unanimous decision. 21-0 in August of 83. He went from April to August without fighting. That's a lot.

There's an explanation for that, as we'll talk about. This is at Hiram Bithorn Stadium in San Juan. This is against Bazooka Rafael Liman. Bazooka, he goes by. That's his first name. His first name is Bazooka, yeah. He goes by, or his record is 50-12-2. Oh.

So he's been in the game quite a while here, but he's not in this fight too long, only into the fifth round as Hector gets a TKO win here over him. Fantastic. 22-0 for Hector. Now November 83. That goes on. This is at the Coliseo Roberto Clemente.

Not bad here. Pittsburgh? No. Not in here. Pittsburgh? No. Not in Pittsburgh. This is for the WBC World Super Featherweight title. This is a real fucking belt. This is a real deal. He's fighting Rafael Solis, who is 29-3.

This is the second of his all-Rafael trilogy here. He fights Rafael Limon, Rafael Solis, and then Rafael Williams. Three in a row, I swear to God. I'm not kidding. They're both the same guy. Just a bunch of different Rafels. Yep. 29-3, Rafael is.

This is for the vacant WBC super featherweight. Hector knocks him out in the fifth round. 23-0 and a real belt on top of the world. On top of the world, god damn it. I'm going i'm gonna say it now i know i'm gonna wait i'm gonna give it a minute i'm gonna let it percolate for a second let it marinate because he's got more this is a great quote he loves getting booed he said because he's the type of guy who's the loved or hated guy right away i I mean part of the they're loving him and then everyone else fucking boo. They hate him because he's so flamboyant and everything. And he's good.

He feeds off the negative energy. He likes the negative energy. He says during an interview quote my girlfriend boos when we make love because she knows it turns me on. Which is one of the greatest quotes of all fucking time. Take a bow bravo sir bravo

that is amazing because she knows it turns me on oh hector i laughed so loud in the middle of the night fucking reading that that was wild it's my favorite thing ever i want to see that in a porno sometime now. I do, right? Some chick bent over something. You suck. You're terrible at this. Yes. He's really working it now.

So they say, though, when he's training, this is from an article. Here's a quote. Quote, he transforms into a hungry, focused, and dedicated boxer that works hours and hours polishing his speed, his wit, and the style that turned him into one of the greats of all time. That's the only way you can explain why all those great hitters he faced during the best moments of his career never been able to knock him down. It's true. All of this flamboyance kind of makes you think, oh, I bet he doesn't work hard. But he knows how to work. That's the other thing.

In the gym, it's a whole other issue. He's not even, none of that bullshit going on in the gym. It's all work, work, work, work, work. And then when it's time to party, it's time to party. And then fuck work. So May 20th, 84, in Corpus Christi, Texas, fighting Raphael Williams, who's 19-1. Hector knocks him out in the seventh round, 24-0 for Hector. The problem, he hasn't fought.

He's only fought, like, what, three times in the last year and a half, basically? And that's because he has a problem with his manager. Oh. After he won the title in 83, there were some problems there because I guess Don King, who was the promoter had problems with camacho's manager billy giles and because of that he didn't get to fight a lot because those two couldn't work anything out to get fights for him so um giles and he ends up dropping giles and camacho does and getting more fights and going through Don King.

And he Giles went right to the media and said that Camacho was, quote, drowning in drugs and he's a loser and all that sort of thing. So Don King, though, ends up taking Camacho in and his next fight. Camacho gets a five hundred thousand dollar payday for it. So he's pretty happy about that. That's July 19, 1985, the Imperial Ballroom in Atlantic City. He fights Louie Burke, whose nickname is Sweet Lou. Old Sweet Lou. Wow.

He's 19-1 coming in. Little Louie was a little too sweet to come out for the fifth round on this one. Is that right? He stayed in the corner for the fourth, and that was the end of the fight. Is that enough? A little too sweet. He was over there. He needed a couple of candy bars.

That's why they call him that. Can't get through a fight without some candy. It's his diabetes that gave him that name. Hypoglycemic kind of a guy. They got to give him a little Hershey's bar or something in between rounds just to get him going they keep a keep a cup of orange juice over there for him so uh 25 and 0 for hector april 29th 85 memorial auditorium in buffalo new york he fights he fights rocky montoya who's 14 6 and, goes all 12 rounds to title fight, and Hector wins it unanimously, 26-0. Here is from a newspaper article.

This is just fucking hilarious. This is like an AP article. It was everywhere. Quote, his style of dress, to begin with, is outlandish enough to make Liberace look blue-collar. Okay, that's a lot right there. Enough to make a gay man in sequins seem like a dock worker. Yeah, who wears giant rings on every finger. Macho wears a giant plate on a necklace that says Macho in gold letters.

It's huge. He says he wears enough jewelry to make Mr. T look like a man who only dabbles in accessories. It must be great fun to watch Camacho walk through a metal detector. And that little ponytail, a kind of 80s cowlick. It's called a rat tail. That's what he asked. 80s cowlick. How dare you?

It's a rat tail is what that is, sir. Sir, it's a rat. It's the trashiest hairdo on earth. He might have been the most popular early purveyor of the rat tail, I think. Right? I don't know anybody else more famous who had a rat tail. An 80s cow lick? That is the worst.

It's more the Florida Pompadour is what it is. The opposite. It's disgusting. 80s cowlick. How dare you. Remember the kids that had the rat tail in school? They were all dirty kids. All the dirty kids, yeah.

Which they got haircuts because the rest of their hair wasn't that long. So it's like you can't blame this on your upbringing. You chose this, motherfucker. Is this because like your dad and your brother have it too? And you get like a three for one deal at the barber? I don't know what's happening. Every one of them was the dirty kid. I don't know anybody that had one.

Not just the dirty, the smelly kid. The filthy kid. There was a smelly kid with a rat tail, but not smelly like sad. Smelly like he was like, I like smelling like that. I don't like to take showers. It wasn't sad. No. Yeah, exactly.

He liked to repulse people. It's because he lived in a junkyard, but his parents had a house somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. It's like fucking Pigpenny lived there. He just chose to sleep under a Bu somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. Like fucking pigpen he lived in. He just chose to sleep under a Buick on cinder blocks. Yeah. He had just a cloud of dust that followed him around.

And a rat tail. This guy goes on to say the macho look actually spelled out with a gold chain of enough heft to bow larger men than Camacho has set some people off, no question. It's a little threatening. Yet when Camacho enters the ring in a leopard loincloth, he doesn't really mean anything by it. It's just an extravagance of style. Extravagance really is what Camacho is all about. And this doesn't just mean the furs, the Lamborghini, because by this point he's driving a Lamborghini. He's also extravagantly talented, and his 26-0 record suggests that.

But Camacho is promising to mark it up real good and then go on to real glory. Quote, I'm growing into something I dreamed, he said. People have already recognized me as a champion. Now they'll recognize me as a macho man. This is awesome. That is wild. Flannery, the guy who taught him to read at this point, said, here's how far he's come. He leaves my apartment one day, walking down the stairs because he never takes the elevator, and shouts up to me from the street. He wants to show me something he shows me a neighbor's door with the key still inside it he had just walked on by it he says to me see how

i've changed i didn't even go in there and steal everything that's what this guy said the old macho man might have opened the door and looked around and borrowed something so yeah look at me hey i didn't steal nothing huh i? I'm pretty respectable. It's the rat tail. It gives me strength. So August 10th, 85, Riviera Hotel and Casino Superstar Center in Vegas. Oh, wow. That's their arena, I'm sure.

I think that place was just leveled, but it stuck around. That was the last one. Yeah, that was a shithole, too. Yeah, it was. That was a shithole. Have they knocked the frontier down yet? Because that's another one that stuck around for a long time. Yeah. It was still around in the air.

Like, 2005, it was still there, I know. Wow. So, like, yeah, that shit was around forever. That whole area in that section of the strip near the Riviera turned into like way upscale shit. Like there's a Louis Vuitton. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's insane over there now. Yeah, those were the dumpiest.

They weren't the new casinos and they weren't even like the shitty ones on the old strip where it's like kind of a little carnival down there. They were just these in between. Those places were $30 a night back in like 2005. They used to be, you could get a room for $30 at those places. And it was like a decent room, too, for $30. But it's still a shithole of a place compared to everything else around there. And Rudy was the one that had the girls out front, the can-can girls, the leggy girls. Yep, yep, yep.

That's how they would get the fucking creep fucks to come in there and throw their money away yeah god i'm gonna go i bet those chicks will have sex with me if i go in there no probably not actually i'm sure they won't i'm sure they'll go home to their fucking husband and kids someone other or no one just not you scumbag from fucking cincinnati who's here on business for two days they're not gonna fuck you who's standing on the sidewalk trying to get a glimpse of vagina as they do kick legs douchebag from boise here from a bachelor party they're not having sex with you so this fight uh the undercard of this fight, Hector is the main event here tonight. Undercard of this fight is Mitch Bloodgreen and Trevor Burbick are both on this card.

Is that right? Yeah. Two of our, that is two of our alumni, obviously. Alumni, yeah. Fighting each other. Yeah, they did all of this. Yeah, fighting each other. Yeah, they did all of this.

Burbick was explaining how in the pre-fight press conference, Burbick was saying how in his last fight, his food was doped before that fight. Remember that whole thing? This is when he came out with it, and Hector was the main event. This is against Jose Luis Ramirez, known as El Zerdo. Okay. Know what that means? No. Left-handed.

Just left-handed. He's up southpaw. Just means he's left-handed. But it sounds cool. El Zerdo with a Z. Z-U-R-D-O. It sounds like Zorro's cousin. It's cooler than fucking Jose, I guess. Sounds like an antacid. El Zerdo? Yeah. Sounds like a person who needs an antacid. El Zerdo? Yeah.

Sounds like a person who needs an antacid. Yeah. I eat pizza. I need a Zerdo. El Zerdo. Z-U-R-D-O. El Zerdo. 90 and 5 is El Zerdo. Wow. He's doing well with his left hand.

This is a unanimous decision. Win for Hector, though. 27-0. That's a big fight, like we said. It's a big whole deal here. December 18, 1985, Arco Arena, Sacramento. Hey. A big place.

He's fighting Freddie Roach. Is that right? Yeah, Freddie Roach, the big promoter and trainer. This is a big guy. Freddie Roach. What's up? Obviously, I knew he fought because he looks like a fighter but i i don't think i i don't think i've ever heard of a fight

he was in until just now you're gonna hear about it now god damn it uh he went by the choir boy as his nickname and he did he looked all he looked like a little yeah he looked like a choir boy. He's 39 and 9 coming in. Roach, at this point now, Roach has trained 27 world champions. Holy shit. He's done pretty well. He worked a bunch of shit, and then he ended up in 1991. Mickey Rourke was boxing during his acting career and hired Freddie Roach to help him train in 1995. Mickey Rourke gave all his gym equipment to Freddie Roach because he quit boxing.

So he's got all of Mickey Rourke's gym equipment, which is a weird thing. He worked. He's done everything. This guy, Christ, he's been everything from huge boxing to also UFC people. He trained Andrei Arlovsky. He trained Fedor Emelianenko. No kidding. Yeah, he's trained all sorts of people.

So he's really done a lot in anything fighting related. But Hector beats him with a unanimous decision in 10 rounds. So this is 28-0 for Hector. And he said afterward, Camacho made 50 grand from this fight wasn't a big fight so he told the promoter to hold his 50 000 purse for him oh he said quote i don't need it now when i do i'll call you and ask for it and you just hold on to it and then he called him a year later and said hey can i get that 50 grand like i'll blow it on coke and gold chains tonight like tonight you know i'll buy three of those kicking girls outside the riviera if you have enough money they'll they're for sale trust me but if somebody asks if somebody asks you to hold money are you 50 grand i mean

the promoter i mean he's always got people paying out of whatever who cares there might there might be a little less in a year i maybe i don't know i mean why not you got you want to work with him again yeah i mean you want to work with him again the wait is over so far you're not losing the only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Ding! The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything. I can fix that.

New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so, um... This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor.

You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award-winning series returns. How did I know that? I have a crystal ball in my head. It's an all new season.

It's streaming. You can say anything. Judy Justice. Only on Freebie. June 13th, 1986. This is Madison Square Garden. Now, the original fight poster for this, it's against Edwin Rosario, and this undercard has Julio Cesar Chavez and

Mike Tyson on it. What the fuck? Both of them not fighting each other, obviously. That would be a bloodbath. It's a 70-pound weight difference, but different fights. That would be terrible for Julio. Mike might still be washing that man out of his hair oh my god somebody in the front row would have been wearing julio's blood all over their

clothes brain matter everywhere that might be why mike shaved his head because uh he couldn't get all that out that's totally uh one of the big fight promoters from back then said so there was a moment when he owned the sport i and i don't want to i don't want that to be forgotten about macho camacho this was you know he was on top of the fucking world at this point he fights edwin chapo rosario 28 and one it's a split decision win bringing him to 29 and one so or 290, I'm sorry, for Hector. Hector wins it. 29-0. September 26, 86, he's in Miami Beach.

He fights Cornelius Boza Edwards, who ends up being a matchmaker later on as well. At this point, he's 44-5, so he's not a bad fighter either. This goes all 12 rounds. Hector wins it for his 30th win. 30-0 for Hector. Yep. At this point, he decides to surrender the lightweight title because he's having trouble keeping his weight down.

A lot of times this happens. As the guys get a little older, they go up. Just because you get naturally a little bit bigger, and it becomes prohibitive to keep your weight down. You don't have the stamina you need and all that kind of shit. So he moves up to junior welterweight. And May 2, 87, Convention Center, Atlantic City, he fights Howard Davis Jr., junior on junior violence.

Here it comes. This guy's 29-3, unanimous decision, 10 rounds, the win for Hector. Ten rounds, the win for Hector. So he ends up now doing a – he goes into this isolated section. He's in Florida. He moves into the woods in Florida and isolates – well, it's northern Florida. He finds a wooded section with some solid ground, just some solid ground. A few rocks in the soil.

Yeah, a couple of rocks, something to stand on, a boulder. His younger brother, Felix, who's 21 at the time, also living and training with him as well as he's getting into it. So Macho's, as he puts it, starting to chill out a little bit. A reporter notes that sitting in his den on bookshelves are now some health self self-help tapes on the build-up of self-image and cassettes that teach you how to control your anger so okay he's he's trying to better himself now they're saying so he should be fine he's maturing he's a mature macho camacho he's got some philosophy I think he should be good from here on out. Probably.

But right after that whole article, on February 4th, 1988, he is arrested for some wild shit. He's arrested. This is on cocaine and assault charges at once. Possession while punching. Well, more than that. He allegedly pulled a gun on a child who made an obscene gesture at Hector's friend. What the fuck are you doing? A kid flipped him off and we got a finger.

He was driving his car. That's it. An unidentified boy filed an assault charge against him after a fight. It was at school. It was outside of fucking school at Clewiston High School. So a kid that was outside of a school, he's driving by. The kid flips him off and Hector gets

out and beats him up and pulls a gun on him. One of the guys said, quote, from my understanding, one boy threw the bird at the other one. Hector thought he was doing it to him. They got into an altercation and hector pulled a gun on him and threatened to kill him well excellent a child i was gonna say

maybe he didn't know he was a child but he was outside the school with a fucking book bag on no excuses for pulling your gun at that point right i mean we used to do that from the chain link you know i mean that's what you do yeah this is uh you flip them off and you run you just hope macho camacho doesn't get out with his fucking wearing peacock feathers chasing you down with a glock 40 just hope that doesn't happen like he needs a gun against a child he's these fighters can't beat him so after they arrest him they take him into book him at the police station and he's in in like the little room you know a little whatever room by himself and there's a cop he's on video the whole time in there they have cameras even at this point in the mid 80s so there's a cop watching him

the whole time on this on this monitor and they watch him remove a small plastic bag from his wallet and tuck it into his underwear. So they go in, they go, what'd you go put in your underwear? He's like, what are you talking about? And they're like, what'd you put in your underwear? And it's a bag containing cocaine. And he's charged with possession of a controlled substance as well as assaulting a child with a fucking handgun. Oh, that's amazing. I'm surprised they didn't find that when they fucking arrested him. No, they i don't even think i don't think they processed him if he's still at his wallet in his pocket they haven't searched him they searched him for weapons

anything big yeah and then they took him in and that this is when they go search through all of his shit and he would have if he was going to jail he would have got arrested for smuggling contraband at that point so he um they said that he did not have a permit to carry a weapon, but he wasn't all he wasn't charged with weapons violations because they said that's all included in the aggravated assault charge. Right. It's all in there. They said he I guess this is 60 miles west of west of West Palm Beach. That's where he's hanging out now. So his response to this, macho, what are you doing? He said that, number one, none of this is true.

All bullshit. It's all a lie. Not just a lie, though. A quote, a big misunderstanding. Just a big misunderstanding. I was pointing a gun at somebody else, and I found that cocaine. Someone must have put it in the room. He was pointing the bird at someone else.

I was pointing my gun at someone else. You know how it is. Yeah, he said that the incident, this is crazy. It's not stupid. He said, quote, he said, I didn't threaten to kill him. He said, quote, it wasn't I'm going to kill you. And he said he was standing beside a gold his big belts he had with him and he said quote i'm a nice tiger a nice tiger he

pointed a gun at him he goes it wasn't like i'm gonna kill you type of point a gun at somebody it was just like a hey what's up dude i'm pointing my gun at you for shits and giggles kind of right i'm gonna kill you different kind of i'm gonna kill you sometimes tigers show their teeth they're still they can still be nice they're still nice but they yawn they show their teeth yeah now camacho's lawyer jim levine or levian he says the whole thing is a lot of nonsense he's in a small town and he's a target well you made a child a target of your gun that's the problem anybody driving by a school is a target. Well, you made a child a target of your gun. That's the problem. Anybody driving by a school is a target. He should probably understand that.

That children might be dicks and flip you off. Yeah, they treat each other worse. Don't ever ride behind eight-year-old Jimmy in the back of a wagon that's pointing, the back seat faces backward. Oh, yeah, yeah. I flipped off every driver that was behind us. Every school bus ride ever.

As children. All we did was flip people off and make fucking blowjob faces at them. This is in like fifth grade, too. Right. Yeah. It's ahead. So Camacho said that things are just blown out of proportion. He's pissed off.

He said that he merely argued with the youth at his car window then left he didn't this is all crazy he said there was no gun and there was no threats he said that the kid and some of his friends uh from his uh oh no he camacho and some of his friends were just cruising around in his friends and his friends rolls royce at the time you know how you do you just cruise around small towns in Rolls Royces. Like, we always do that, you know? You drive around in a Rolls Royce, you're going to catch a few stray birds.

And you should expect that. And you should wave back at them and go, yep, my life is fabulous enough, you should give me the finger. Fuck it. My life is certainly better than yours, kid. Stay in school. Man, even though I didn't go to school

and I didn't read until I was 15, but that's irrelevant. Camacho then says, quote, I'm having a good laugh now. He's charged with aggravated assault of a child. I don't know what's funny about that. And possession of cocaine. In the 80s. So Camacho said he contacted the youth who pressed the charges. I don't think that's allowed, number one.

I don't think you're supposed to contact victims of yours that have already pressed charges against you. I think that's part of it. I think that's illegal. Yeah, and he said that they both agreed it was blown out of proportion. How do you think they came to that agreement? With a couple of bucks, maybe, come to that quick agreement? I'm sure Hector suggested it first. You know, Hector then says, they just don't appreciate me here.

Well, there's very few jurisdictions that appreciate when you pull guns on their children around there. At the school, no less. Makes it worse, even. no less right makes it worse even so um as far as the drug charges go he said he didn't deny that police found drugs on him but he also didn't admit to taking drugs his response to all of this was quote i'm against drugs i'm dot dot dot against drugs i've got to keep training uh i'm history in the making if i was hooked on drugs i'd be selling my tv no if you make enough money you can do drugs that's the thing he's he's he's acting like no matter who you are if you do drugs you'll sell everything you have not if you make a shitload

of money that's what's that's why famous people did drugs a lot because they could and still have nice things if you've got money and you can afford to buy drugs you don't have a drug problem. That's all. It's the Sam Kinison joke. If I had $13,000 to go to the Betty Ford Center, if you have $13,000, you don't have a fucking cocaine problem, okay? Yeah, that's the joke. So July 25th, 88, Tropicana Hotel and Casino, Atlantic City, not the one in Vegas.

Okay. casino Atlantic City, not the one in Vegas. So this is against Reyes Antonio Cruz, who's 37-2-1, unanimous decision win for Camacho in 10 rounds, 32-0. October 22nd, 88, down in Puerto Rico, he fights Rick Saus, which is source without the R, 14-1, TKO in the fourth round for Hector, 33-0. 14-1, TKO in the fourth round for Hector, 33-0. He ends up pleading no contest to possession of cocaine here.

That's what he's got to do. The whole thing with the kid gets dropped because the kid decides they've come to an understanding. We both agree it was crazy. Yeah. He agrees to random drug screenings to avoid probation or prison time. You're telling me the police didn't think that was blown out of proportion, him changing cocaine from his wallet to his underwear? That's, to do it on camera in the fucking room there is the funny part. Like, dude, how fucking, how dumb are you? I don't care that you have drugs, just don't be an idiot and take them out then.

Fuck, man. fucking how dumb are you i don't care that you have drugs just don't be an idiot and take them out then fuck man march 6th 89 the lawler event center in lovely reno yeah nevada oh boy the garden center here this is for the vacant wbo super lightweight title he fights ray boom boom mancini oh so macho camacho and boom Boom Mancini is a big fight back then. It really is. He's been in the orbit of so many fucking amazing people. And he goes from one era of these people to the next. Like he'll fight all these guys and then he'll also fight Trinidad, Delahoya, all those guys. Right.

It's fucking crazy. So Boom Boom is about done here though. He's all boomed out at this point. He is. More fucking crazy so boom boom is about done here though he's about he's all boomed out at this point he is uh more just boom than boom he's more yeah he's 29 and three and he'll finish his career at 29 and five he loses the light loses the last three fights of his career and then quits loses three in a row and he's like i'm not going to embarrass myself any further that man is a boxing household name and he only wins 34 fights 29 and 5 wow his fucking nickname is boom boom this is how important a nickname is yeah boom boom macho these are the people you remember their names are fucking legendary because of these goddamn nicknames it's wild man mitch blood green that's a great nickname

so this split decision wins so boom boom almost doesn't have to retire here but he loses 34 and oh now he's beaten boom he's basically retired boom boom he's gonna fight like one more fight this is good shit 34 and oh on top of the world he can pull guns on kids with no recrimination none at all he's on top of the world grace this is grace yeah this is grace right here so next up july 17th 89 this is trump plaza atlantic city he fights tommy hanks who's just he's just doing an undercover thing for a role in a boxing movie he's playing i'm sure that's all it is tommy hanks imagine being that guy you gotta go by thomas right because it sounds the least like it you gotta run with what's your middle name what's your middle name greatete great pete hanks

hi pete don't go by tommy although if you want to make restaurant reservations always go by tom hanks always go with tom hanks so uh he's 18 and three tommy hanks he's been fighting for a while not exactly an award winner, but he's fighting. Unanimous decision in 10 rounds, all 10. 35-0 for Hector. Jesus Christ. November 4th, 89 in Atlantic City, he's fighting Raul Torres, who's 10-3-2. And this also goes all 10.

Wow. So 36-0. I think he took Raul a little lightly, possibly. December 1st, 89, he has another son really with uh yep with a woman named amy torres who will suffer along for about the next decade or so while he just does awful things this is really when macho comes into his own as a criminal here in this era and this poor woman is along for the ride for almost all of it holy shit here in this era and this poor woman is along for the ride for almost all of it holy shit so they have a son named justin here um february 3rd 1990 at convention hall in atlantic city he fights vinnie pazienza holy shit it's like a fucking reunion show it's like a reunion show

like all of the past crime and sports people are coming back to us here. Tyson, Berbick, Mitch Green, Pazienza. Holy fuck. Vinny Paz. Absolutely. Vinny Paz. Vinny Paz's ma's in the corner screaming at him. Oh, she was there for sure. He's not that macho.

28-3, Vinny is coming into this fight. A unanimous decision in 12 rounds for Hector. Hector, he's a better boxer he's just outclassed he was so good he was so good that's the flash of it made honestly in the end like it made him more famous but it actually makes people think he wasn't as good of a boxer as he was really it really does yeah he has a more of a reputation for his crazy haircuts and his crazy outfits than he does for his boxing. And then you go, oh, yeah, this motherfucker is 37-0 right now. Right.

And he's fought all comers. It's crazy. Right. As a professional, he's undefeated against good fighters. Yeah. No one's knocking him down. He's damn good. Yeah.

He's not dodging anybody. This is who's available at 1990 at this weight class. That's it. So he's 37 him down. He's damn good. Yeah, he's not dodging anybody. This is who's available at 1990 at this weight class. That's it. So he's 37-0. August 11, 1990 at Caesars Tahoe. Don't get too excited. That sounds better, actually. It might be better, yeah.

It's less hot up there. Yeah, it might be nice in the wintertime. Yeah, there's some mountains. There's mountains in Vegas, too. So here he's fighting Tony the Tiger Baltazar. Yeah, he did it. Tony the Tiger. 35.

Tony the Tiger. Yeah, he did it. He's like, fuck it. Can anyone else think of anything? No? Well, we got to go with the tiger. I don't know. The fight's tomorrow.

What do you want from me? I bet it gets a lot of press. Let's run it. Come on. It works for people. Boom, boom. That guy's not even that good. You fucking break.

So, by the way, Boom Boom's also very, very famous because he is Italian. And at this point, there's not a lot of Italian fighters. And the Italian fighters that are there, we really rally around our own. We need a rock. Yeah. We need a hero a lot, and we don't get a lot in sports. We really don't. All of our guys are either like there's some in baseball,

but they're all catchers or managers. You know what I mean? Since DiMaggio, we've been empty. There's a few football players, but most of them are linemen, I think. Not really. A couple of linemen, that's about it. Football's not a real big Italian sport either. Heavy sausage suckers.

No. Yeah. We're boxing trainers. All the trainers back then were Italian. They were trainers, were catchers and managers and things like that. But athletically, a lot of them are five six and just you know not really not a lot of them are wearing the c for captain no it's a different deal well they might be a catcher you know what i mean but they're they're not going to be the best player on the team they're just going to have a good strategy of how to fuck the other team over

we're good at that that's how they become managers that works so um i think that's what it is though yeah they get you know we we had nothing so much that we said fuck it ralph macchio and rocky those are our here these aren't even it's movies and we're still like those are our athletic heroes we don't care ralph macchio and a guy that we can't understand you don't care who cares a child and a man with obvious brain damage our heroes we don't give a shit good for ralph macchio for having maybe the ugliest first name in the history of first names and being the least sexy man on the planet yet was still fucking very well paid elizabeth's shoe humping all over him that was elizabeth's shoe right the first one sure was yeah yeah yeah that's what i thought give him the time of day it wasn't a cruel summer for him that summer he was doing just fine

best summer ever best summer ever i'm gonna run this summer two more times god damn before they cast a woman in this role jesus it's gonna be all over then hillary swank will take over and that's the end of it so he's 38 and 0 after this fight 38 now next up february 3rd 1991 caesar's palace las vegas the big time versus versus Greg Haugen, who's a tough fighter, 27-3. Now, this is a weird fight. It goes all 12 rounds. It ends up being a split decision. And at one point, the referee deducted in the 12th round, mind you, the referee deducted a point from Camacho

because he refused to touch gloves with Haugen at the beginning of the round. That's ridiculous. Dude, you can punch a guy in the balls three times before they'll fucking deduct a point. First time's an accident. Second time's a fucking warning because they have to warn you first. Next time is a fucking He didn't touch gloves with him, which

has no impact on the fight whatsoever. Zero. No. Got a point deducted and ends up Camacho ends up losing a split decision in the end. Split decision. So that point could have made a big difference. Robbed him, yeah. And you know, at this time, what year was this, 89?

This is 91. 91. There was a time around that where sportsmanship was being fucking touted in every sport. They wanted respect in sport for each other. You know what I mean? It's your opponent, man. Who gives a shit? We will tap gloves and hug after.

It doesn't matter anymore. Yeah. And back in the day, people weren't all sportsmen either. Ty Cobb used to jump up and kick people in the balls with his spikes and he'd slide into things. What a sportsman. What a nice leisurely game isn't it just a easy stroll after the fight though they do all the you know they drug test all the fighters after the fight and an unidentified substance was found in haugen's urine

oh the the the record stayed the same of haugen with the win, but a rematch is ordered. They have to fight again, and it's right away, too. It's in May of 91, a couple months later, at the Reno Sparks Convention Center. Not quite Caesar's Palace, but, you know, Greg Haugen again. This time, goes the distance again, split decision again, but Camacho wins it this time. So, one for hector for some reason this amy torres marries him in 1991 i don't know why but she does um yeah i guess she loves him they have kids i don't know but here it's gonna get crazy now october 14th 1991 hector's arrested. This is pretty wild. Okay.

He's driving a Ferrari. Yeah. A black 1988 Ferrari. Why not? So it's hot shit, okay? Yeah. It's on Interstate 75 in Florida. He's driving.

He has stopped for driving too slowly. What? Probably a Testarossa? He's driving 35 miles an hour on interstate 75 some cars you gotta go slow and let people see you some of them you gotta do it they can hear it if you rev it up you don't even need to be you can be within a half mile of and go and go put it in neutral and hit it twice everyone will head will snap i promise you 35 instead 35 well you're saying you're thinking he's just showing off and he's just having like kind of a peacocking moment

oh no no the reason when they pull him over they figure out why it's because he's currently fucking while he's driving wow there is a woman humping him on his lap when the police officer gets to the window. She is at that moment still fucking him from the ride. That's awesome. Not finished yet. That's why he was going slow, which you got to give him credit. At least he wasn't going over. He said, all I can handle is 35 while we're fucking.

I can't go 75. We're being reckless enough here. Yeah. I can't drive 55 while you fuck me i can't yeah so he's arrested for this he has no licenses why suspended license he's gotten a license he's just driving a ferrari while fucking with no license i'm sorry it's too much it's too much it's just too much so uh here's a couple of crazy stories about hector from this time period this is from the showtime documentary that they made a few years ago about hector they

made it like 2019 ish i want to say um one of his childhood friends and who will be one of his quote bodyguards one of his entourage paid hangers-on who's supposedly a bodyguard, Rudy Gonzalez. He says, when a woman, or when a woman, Jesus Christ. When a man loves a woman, you see. You see, when a woman and a man love each other very much, sometimes they pray for a baby. And the Lord will tell them to hop into a black 1988 Ferrari and do the wild thing while the blue lights swirl. And if you do that, you're sure to get pregnant. That's what a shaman once told me.

I'm not sure. I want to know what kind of Ferrari. Was it the 308? I have no idea. That was so bad. I only could find one article that said it was even a Ferrari. There's a couple others, but it's only Ferrari. I can't get anything else.

So this Rudy Gonzalez said, when a demon lives inside of you. That's a bad slip there. Sorry, ladies. He said, quote, he doesn't leave. When a demon lives inside you, he doesn't leave. Gonzalez describes at one point in the movie, waking up from a nap during a car ride with Camacho. They were driving from california to florida okay so they were taking turns driving and sleeping he said that this is fucking wild

they were approaching he woke up as they were approaching the border the u.s mexico border and camacho tells gonzalez i've got a little present in the trunk oh god and he says what and he says a kilo of coke i got back there which is not great to have at the border so they they get stopped at the border yeah and they're being talked to you know and um gonzalez tells macho quote i need you to do macho time right now when he starts starts acting crazy, he calls that Macho Time. Macho Time. He said, I need you to do Macho Time right now, right here, dude. You got to do it.

So Camacho fucking pops out of the car, leaps up in one jump onto the hood. It's a brand new Jaguar. He jumps up onto the hood and starts jumping up and down like an in-betweeners fucking football friend. Starts jumping up and down and screaming, where's Julio Cesar Chavez? Where's Julio Cesar Chavez? I want to fight him. I'm going to fuck him up.

He's been running from me. Where's Chavez? He makes it into like a big stunt. And then all the border patrol are like, hey, he wants to fight Julio Cesar Chavez. And they all act like hey look at this this is cool right dude check it out he wants to fight fucking julio cesar chavez man this is all right and they fucking let him go you don't you don't as a border patrol agent go that man's on coke search his car nope because it's it's macho camacho that's how he is

they've that's every time they've ever seen him that's how he is so if's every time they've ever seen him. That's how he is. So if he didn't act like that, they'd think something was wrong. Right. They'd think now he's just being fun. You could get away with shit like that still in 93. It's amazing. In 92. So it caused enough of a commotion that they let him do a U-turn and leave. They just let him leave because they were, you know.

because they were, you know. Eventually, they stop the car and Camacho, wow, buries the cocaine on the side of the highway. Buries the cocaine on the side of the highway. Okay, just buries it with plans to come back later and get it, which he does and spends all night trying to dig it up and find it and can't find it later on. That's what happens when you bury cocaine in the dark you're not going to find it again too bad they didn't have little gps's you could put in it or something back then little apple finder something so gonzalez drops camacho off at home in florida and he tells amy

quote here he is i don't want to talk to him for at least a year get him the fuck away from me that was a stressful trip so August 1st 1992 at the Hilton in Vegas he fights Speedy Eddie Van Kirk Speedy Eddie here 26-7-3

he's not speedy enough Macho TKO's his ass in the fourth round. 40-1 for Macho at this point. He's not bad at all. Also in 1992, he has another son with Amy. This is the third?

This is his third son, yes. Second with Amy. Christian is his name now. September 12, 1992, the Thomas and Max Center in Vegas. He fights fights he gets his wish julio cesar chavez there he is cesar chavez is 81 and 0 at this point is that right yeah man he shouldn't have been 81 and though and oh though because meldrick taylor kicked his fucking ass and that fight got called with two seconds left richard steel comes in and waves it off like taylor couldn't have couldn't have fucking stood there for two seconds oh he's gonna get killed

by the time chavez got to him the fight would have been over he was in a neutral fucking corner waved it off and taylor was well ahead on the cards that was the most that was the most angry i've ever been watching a fucking fight no beat him yeah how many of those though were shady decisions and shit too because i don't trust anything after i saw that uh he ends up 107 6 and 2 julio so he was a legendary fighter but yeah at the end he was fighting when he was an old guy he was like 50 when he was fighting still don't do that this this goes all 12 rounds and it is a unanimous decision loss for Hector. Julio knows how to win a decision, and this brings him to 40-2.

But I don't know if Macho even gives a shit because he made $3 million for this fight. Oh, my God. So he is thrilled. He's making millions of dollars now. The last five years or so, he has been collecting so much money. Big paydays. September 21st, 1992, he is arrested. He's stopped in Lake Placid, a lot of training up there, by a police officer who said that he was weaving with no headlights on

that's a problem you can't you can't do that um weaving he showed the officer an invalid driver's license also yeah so he's cited for driving with a suspended license giving false information to an officer and failure to drive in a single lane and they later on dropped the false information to an officer and failure to drive in a single lane and they later on drop the false information charge at least he wasn't fucking at the time so that's good at this point they noticed he's received from 1988 to 1992 27 traffic tickets that's so many that's so that's why he doesn't have a goddamn license he He's had his license suspended four times, including currently. He's a disaster. He's always driving a Lamborghini, a Ferrari, a Jaguar, a Rolls.

He's always driving some exotic car with no license. That's how you get police attention and then swerve and go too slow in it. Yeah, you're driving a fucking Ferrari 35 miles an hour on the freeway people are going to notice you then when there's a woman fucking gyrating on top of you you're gonna get seen that's so awesome it's that is like a teenager's dream man someday i'm gonna get a ferrari and i'm just gonna drive at half the fucking speed limit with a chick just riding my dick the whole time and you want to pull me over fine but you're gonna get a whiff of that pussy if you know what I'm talking about that's like every douchebag teenager's dream Charlie

Sheen banged uh Christy Swanson in the chase running from the cops like that absolutely I was mad impressed with that because they had like a camera on the shit because the police were chasing with a helicopter and everything. That was fucking rad. That's impressive. This is even more impressive. This actually happened, so it's even better. This is real. This is good.

There was penetration and everything. Oh, tons of it. It was gross. All sorts of good stuff. So this leads us to November 6th, 1992. Just a few short months later, he's in the Miami International Airport Hilton Lobby Hotel. So he's in the lobby of the hotel at the airport. Yeah.

The airport hotel. His arms are up. hotel his arms are up he is screaming over and over again at the top of his lungs while standing on top of furniture intermittently being on the ground quote i'm the macho man i'm the macho man i'm the macho over and over and over again to the point where they have to call the police to try to quiet him down because he will not stop screaming i am the macho man in the middle of this fucking lobby so the police come to try to quiet him down he's seems pretty intoxicated they say as you might imagine right and the officers immediately spot a small plastic bag where hanging out of his pocket no in his hand just in the open in his hand holding it so he

ends up once the cops come and tell him whatever they kind of corner him he runs out of the lobby takes off he's a squirrely little guy yeah runs into the parking area where the cops end up catching up to him and then he fights both of them. With the bag still in his hand, by the way. Awesome. Fights two cops who try to subdue him. Eventually they get him cuffed. One officer's taken to the hospital with a broken leg

and the other one's got bumps and bruises and everything else. He fucking beat the shit out of two cops. They ended up eventually getting... He broke a cop's leg. He knows karate. He broke a cop's leg he's punching another cop yeah he's crazy so he's charged with three counts of battery on a police officer one count of disorderly uh intoxication and when they finally got him cuffed he had a bag of weed in his hand so another possession of marijuana as well that was what the plastic bag

was he should have taken he should have smoked that weed. Maybe none of this would have happened. He's like, I'm just trying to find somewhere to smoke this weed so I can calm the fuck down. I'm looking for a Coke can. Anybody?

Anybody? Shit, I'll take anything. Fine, RC will do, I guess. I don't know. What state was this in? Oh, by the way, it was Miami, Florida. Miami International Airport, Hilton.

You can't be watching cops in florida by the way speaking of soda have you seen the netflix pepsi harrier documentary the kid that sued them for the harrier jet no i want to the 90s it's out it's oh yeah it's out now it's on netflix it's a problem is it's four parts and it should be an hour and a half documentary but they're all like 40 minutes long it's's very interesting, though. It's very interesting. Pepsi 1,000% owes that kid, should have owed that kid a fucking jet. They put a thing on with no disclaimer, no anything, and had it in the same font and everything as all the other offers. It's a real offer.

You guys are dicks. I didn't expect anybody to figure out how to get the Harrier. And what a fucking amazing bit of pr if they actually got a harrier jet for him unbelievable even if it cost 32 million dollars you couldn't buy that's way more than 32 million dollars worth of publicity you get absolutely yeah you're the lead story on every local local news broadcast in the nation in the world honestly yeah showing how edgy and cool you are fucking idiots mcdonald's wishes mcdonald's wishes that hot coffee uh thing was only 39 million dollars well it was only two million dollars right but it was a they spent a lot more than that in fucking court legal shit yeah fuck yeah so

december 15th 1992 a mere month month later, he is arrested again. He surrendered later on on a charge of illegally obtaining a driver's license because he got a driver's license using false information. That's what he did. Fingerprinted, photographed, released after posting $690.50 bail. He's going to be arranged. Arranged. Arraigned. It's a felony charge, and he also has two misdemeanor traffic charges also.

Yikes. As well, police issued an arrest warrant for him, or prosecutors did, after learning that he obtained a driver's license without disclosing that his driving privileges had been suspended in several other states. So, not great. Maximum penalty for this, by the way, because this is kind of a felony charge because it's identification theft, essentially. Five years in prison is max penalty for this.

This isn't a fine nothing bullshit. His attorney said, come on. He said Camacho's, quote, a nice guy who's down to earth. He just wants to get the... He's down to earth? Say he's a nice guy. Say he's innocent. Don't say he's down to earth.

He fucks women while driving a Ferrari. That's not down to earth. That's the opposite of down to earth. Jumping out of a Rolls Royce to put a gun in a teenager's face is the opposite of down to earth. I'm sorry. He's exhibited zero down to earth behavior. None. None at all.

He said he just wants to get the charges cleared up as soon as possible and get it all behind him. He ends up pleading guilty in the assault case with the police there. And he gets you, sir, may fuck off probation. Take that, mister. So May 8th, 93, back at the Thomas and Mac Center in Vegas. He is fighting Eric Podolak, who's 20 and 3. TKO's this guy five rounds. So 41-2 for our friend Hector here. June 19, 1993, Sports Arena, San Diego.

He fights altar boy Tom Alexander. Okay. Altar boy, choir boy. I think we've exhausted all of the you've-been-molested-at-church euphemisms, I think. We can put those behind us, right? No more? Is there one for the wrestling boys? Tommy the Pew Kneeler Alexander.

What else do we got here? Tommy the Confession Booth Handjob Specialist Alexander. 17 and 4 for the uh for altar boy tko in the seventh round for hector 42 and 2 october 1993 um this is oh the first one the first incident was for the teenagers that he got sentenced for probation this next one here he is now going to be sentenced for fighting the police officers the assault on two cops this time they give him six months of house arrest for that so that's what he gets six months of house arrest for breaking a cop's leg and beating the shit out of another one yeah that's it while yelling i'm the macho man don one. Yeah, that's it. While yelling, I'm the Macho Man. Don't forget that part.

That really makes it better for some reason. The Macho Man. The Macho Man. December 18, 1993, in Mexico, he fights Lee Fortune, who's 16, 10, and 1. This sounds like just a setup for an easy fight. TKO in the first round for Hector. Yeah, that's what that is. 43-2.

January 29, 1994. The MGM in Las Vegas. This is big time here. Versus a 22-0 up-and-coming Felix Trinidad, who later on before he got fucking lazy in the ring was a bad motherfucker, man. He was nasty, Trinidad. He was a hard-hitting son of a bitch. He looked so frail and skinny, and he'd put the popping on people.

He'd be like, God damn. That fucking punch sounded like it came from somebody way different than you. Frail? He's skinny. He looked fucking frail sometimes. He did. In the beginning of his career he looked frail he looked like you could hurt him but you couldn't he was made of iron he was just

wiry he's wiry you know um so trinidad yeah oh fuck yeah he thought was thumping people this was a unanimous decision loss in 12 rounds so went the distance and all 12 and trinidad was a great fighter and he's also taller guy trinidad was a great fighter. And he's also a taller guy. Trinidad's, I want to say, 5'11", somewhere in that range. Whereas Camacho's 5'6". Is he that small? Camacho's 5'6". He's a tiny little fucker.

Yeah, he's small. So Trinidad can kind of keep him at bay with jabs and such, I believe. So 43-3 for Hector, which is still phenomenal. 43-3. that's still great. So how much has he paid in legal bills over the years so far? It's got to be $100,000, too? Yeah, well, we'll talk. He says, he's got a number.

He says this lifestyle, it takes the edge off, but also it's expensive because you end up doing stuff like that. He says, I figure maybe a million, a million and a half dollars. What he spent. He says, I know 600,000 has been in the last year or two when I had a couple more problems. I've lived a full life, though. It might not be for everybody, but no regrets for me. What if you just don't do that dumb shit man a million and a

half a million and a half then there's a couple things we didn't even hear about like he talks about he had uh he ended up settling a beef where he broke another guy's leg in a club once here he says quote a guy accused me last year of breaking his leg in a club we had a disagreement and it got a little too rough and nasty. Cost me $150,000 to settle. And I only got off that cheap because he was waiting to see if I won or lost the fight. That was when he lost the Trinidad fight. Or he would have gone for a million dollars if I won.

He said, then there was the furniture I was shipping to my home in San Juan. Immigration charged me with gun trafficking, but I was later found innocent. It cost me money, though. All these things have had me in a fog, and that affected me against Trinidad. But the bad times are behind me now. What is he, Jimmy? He's good now. He is good now.

He says, no more macho man outside the ring. That's his new thing. man outside the ring. That's his new thing. Only inside the ring. You're telling me he bought a couch and upon arrival happened to be full of guns? Not his fault. Super weird. It's like you used to see back in the day on like Cops or Live PD when people get pulled over. I just bought these pants and there's a bunch of cocaine in the pockets.

That's crazy. There's so much heroin in these pockets. I just bought them at Rossoss it's super weird they were supposed to put those little things that absorb moisture in here full of coke i thought it was crazy or maybe an extra button i didn't think it was coke so quote no more macho man outside the ring only inside outside i'm mr camacho now i've had it all ferraris women money it's time to take my life out of fifth gear and down to third he's good now two down shifts jesus two he's done he's gonna take it down a notch so not like he has fucking three kids and a wife and all that shit and he's you know over 30 years old now may 3rd 94 casino magic in st louis that sounds

magical all right he fights franco de oreo who is 27 3 and 1 unanimous decision win for hector 44 and 3 june 9th 94 at the rosemont horizon which which is outside Chicago there. He said he has no – Craig Snyder he's fighting, who's 14 and 4. Macho considers him a bum. He said, quote, I would have to think of retiring if I can't beat this guy. I came here because they told me I should take him out in two or three rounds. He said they gave me 5,000 up front to come to Chicago and 20,000 after the fight. Been a long time since I fought for such a small payday. Can't remember when, but I had to quit being egotistic.

I was hurting myself by being inactive. I'm pointing toward a match in August with Manny Galloway. I fought last month in Mississippi, and I'll fight again on June 21st. When I lost to Chavez, some people told me, macho man, retire. What for? 25 G's isn't all bad. I've made some investments, but I need the cash flow. In other words, I'm piss broke because I've had Lamborghinis and Ferraris. I need the money.

So I have Ugots on my fucking books now. He said, I don't have headaches. My ribs don't ache. Don't ache. I'm healthy. So why not? I've had a lot of big paydays, but now I can pick up 20, 30 Gs while I try to get another big payday down the line by fighting Pernell Winokur, another one of our alumni. This thing is just loaded with it.

He says that he now travels rather with his cocaine entourage, his blow entourage, and his ladies. He now travels with his two youngest sons. That's who he travels with, Christian and Justin, along with his wife. That's his entourage now. He says also his son is starting a boxing career of his own, Hector. He's very excited. He then said, never married, he said. You got married

three years ago. He is married. They got married in 1991. You're married right now. Right now, currently married. She's sitting next to him with the two kids running around. Never married, never had time. Wasn't the macho man image, but I don't want to run around with girls anymore. I've got my family. You are

extremely married. Three years is very married. He said, there was a day though, when I showed up in my macho man clothes, that places went crazy. My life was, and he was thinking about it, he goes, yeah, it was just like that. He said, I'm only planning on one fight while I'm in Chicago, but who knows who i might bump into on the way out uh out of here tonight so maybe i'll fight more people if i don't like somebody so this two or three round fight ends up going the distance actually wow must be pissed about that and he gets the unanimous decision but he's 45 and three and some people are saying is he starting to fade a little bit?

You lose a little step, a little quickness in that jab, a little quickness in your feints, which, I mean, he's getting older. I mean, he's over 30, which for a small guy who's a speedy guy, it doesn't take a lot. You're not going to completely slow down, but that little bit is the difference between that's your edge, you know? little bit is the difference between that's your edge you know yeah uh former boxer ernie terrell who is a promoter in chicago saw camacho's last fight and he says quote i retired at 34 you can't afford to be a few seconds late with a hit and that's what happened when your reflexes go camacho is not as fast as he was that's his opinion at the time sept September 27th, 1994, Casino Magic again. We're probably talking another 30,000. He fights Pat Lawler, who's 20-4.

Unanimous decision win. November 15th, 1994, the Civic Center in Erie, Pennsylvania. He fights the Biloxi bomber, Rusty Deruin. Whoa. Wow. Rusty. Rusty. That's the name. Deruin. Deruin. Deruin. I'm going to Deruin. Whoa. Wow. Rusty. Rusty. That's the name.

Deruin. Deruin. I'm going to Deruin you with my rust. Gross. It's a TKO in round four for Mr. Carmacho, 47-3, January 14th, 95. He's fighting every month now. He needs the cash. You can tell.

Every single fucking month. That's November, then January. Convention Hall. He fights Todd Kidd Foster. And TKO in five rounds, 48-3. February 28th, 1995, Foxwoods. He fights Louie Maisonette. Weird name, Maisonette, who's 28-5.

Louie doesn't come out for the seventh round. Is that right? Yeah, 49-3 for Macho. March 29th, 1995, the Shoemaker Center in Philly, or Cincy, I'm sorry. He fights Verdell Smith, who also goes by Tim Brooks and Tommy Bowles. Yeah. Pick a fucking name. What are you talking about?

Who are you running from? What is that? Yeah, what is this shit? Do you have brain damage under one name so you have to register as a fighter under somebody else i don't get it he's 24 19 and 2 so really it's not really worth investigating to be honest but either way uh goes uh 10 rounds unanimous decision for hector yeah that's his 50th win 50 and 3 for him that's incredible yeah may of 95 he fights in atlantic city the nature boy homer gibbons no sir no i'd never say i'd just say the nature come on whatever yeah fucking

nickname you pick that's not already well documented and your name's homer you're not the nature boy homer in the 90s homer is simpson you're done so 35 and 3 for homer here he's just mad at people making fun of his name unanimous decision in 12 51 and 3 for um for hector june 95 in fort lauderdale won a rojo rojo he doesn't come out for the sixth round so Hector another win 52 and three so everybody's lost to has been quality too that's he doesn't have like one of those oh some scrub beat him some night you know some guy with a 500 record August 695 he fights Gary Kirkland who's 23 and 0 coming into this fight so he's fighting up and comers now and uh tko win for macho in the ninth round 53 and 3 september 28th 1995

um olympic auditorium in la here and um he he ends up this night he's got a fight against tony rodriguez most of the time boxers have a very very rigid routine that they do before fights they get there they warm up this way at a certain time they cool down they do this they got a whole routine everybody's got a different thing but he gets in his fucking trunks puts his big robe on yeah the beginning of the night comes out and just sits along ringside to watch the preliminary matches before his fight i gotta watch the preliminary matches before his fight. I gotta watch the ender card. It's a lot of fun.

He just comes out and gets a seat that's empty. He just picks one and just sits there in his full robe and boots and fucking shorts and just sits there. No gloves, but just sits there and waits until it's his time to go back. You've got a TV in your fucking green room probably. Well, one of his friends about it said, quote, he just wanted to be with people. You're fighting tonight. Be with people afterwards. That's what people do. Do that

tomorrow. That's so strange. Tony Rodriguez though, he didn't need much help with him. Tony Rodriguez is 13 and 1 coming in and this is his last fight he decides to quit after this unanimous decision win for uh hector october 95 international ballroom in washington he fights uh richie hess tko in four rounds november 7th 1995

mountaineer casino racetrack and resort in ch, West Virginia. We've talked about that one before. So nice. Very nice toilets to snort pills off the back of, I hear. For sure. Very nice. And you're allowed to play slot machines shirtless, so that's also a plus. Half naked. Come on through. Come on in.

Women full naked. We don't care. So Danny Young Gun Ch chavez he fights here 25 5 and 1 unanimous decision so now it's a lot of decisions too um december 9th 95 mark of the quad cities in moline heesh uh texas no no that's quad cities is iowa Right, but Moline is Texas, isn't it? No, Moline is Iowa. I'm sure there's one in Texas. There's a Paris in Texas, so it's a big fucking state.

There's one of everything, probably. Is it Moline, Illinois, or Iowa or some shit? It's got to be if there's a Quad. It's one of those. It's the Quad Cities, Moline. It's one of the I states. I know that for a fact. Lonnie Horn, he fights 24- 2, TKO in the sixth round.

So he's 57 and 3. Not bad. December 17th, 95, the week after the Lonnie Horn fight. Phew, man. There's a problem at home. Oh? When he gets in a fight with his wife, who happens to be pregnant at the time, and pushes her and gets arrested for it. Of course. So they said that ordinarily he would have been charged with simple battery, which is a misdemeanor.

But because she's two and a half months pregnant, they charged him with a felony for it. And he knew she was pregnant. His wife does not want to press charges against him. And her sister Margie, who was there, said that Hector never hit Amy. Never happened. This is the sister said, quote, he'll never lay a hand on my sister. He loves her too much. Whoa.

Jesus. Margie said that Camacho was simply trying to calm her sister down during an argument and a neighbor called the police. However, under Florida's domestic abuse laws, the authorities decide whether charges are warranted, not the victim. So witnesses told deputies that Camacho and Amy were arguing at their apartment when Camacho pushed her a couple times. that Camacho and Amy were arguing at their apartment when Camacho pushed her a couple times. Torres, his wife, headed for the parking lot, but Camacho followed her, pushed her some more. She had no visible injury.

She didn't fall down, whatever. So he is arrested, though, and he's returned. He's still on probation, so that's a problem. A few days later, though, the charges are dropped by a judge. Judge drops the charges when Camacho's wife claims she started the fight and would not testify against him. It was really my fault. I fell into a door is what she said. That's it.

Jesus Christ. She started it and wouldn't testify against him. So January 16th, 1996, War Memorial Auditorium, Los Angeles. He's good again now. He's good now again. They said, what do you mean you're good? He said, well, yes, I'm different now. This is from a year and a half ago before he's been arrested three times since then.

He said, quote, I still party, but I party with more balance. I'm more disciplined. I mix my pills and Coke and booze and keep them at a nice balance so I can go all night. You know what I mean? A little bit of each. Yeah. He said, I've been through the headaches of using up a lot of cash flow because of lawyers trying to get me out of trouble. He says, I'm a pay-per-view fighter.

I should be back on pay-per-view. But lately, like, he's only had a couple of fights on the USA Network. He hasn't been on pay-per-view but lately like he's only had a couple of fights on the usa network he hasn't been on pay-per-view in a while um and he turned into a kind of a turned into kind of a joke in the mid 90s when he was fighting it was like oh wow camacho is still around weird you would you'd see him you go oh he's still got the rat tail he's still doing the dumb shit with his shorts and his hair it just wasn't the same anymore. Those people who were very 80s, if they didn't change, they looked real lame by the mid-90s. Like you were another planet. You got to change with the times.

And if you don't, you end up going by the wayside and then you're a goddamn joke. Yeah. You either have to be like Johnny Cash and always have one look that spans everything that's okay, or Frank Sinatra, classic look that never changes, or you have to change with the times. Vanilla Ice, and you eventually stop shaving the brick into your head. And that's who he was.

He was Vanilla Ice, but he still had the big swoop and the fucking eight-ball jacket and the giant pants and shit, and it's 1996. That's what happened. It wasn't working out for him he hopes that he's hoping for a big money fight against the winner of the uh chavez oscar delahoya fight or against pernell whitaker he said a fight against chavez or delahoya would bring out the best in hector camacho that's what his trainer says it would also obviously bring him more money. And Camacho says that he's getting his shit together. He's going to be, you know, he's all tightened up on his boxing.

And he says, quote, nobody. But he's got to still party, though, because he says, quote, nobody wants a square macho. That's Hector's quote. Nobody wants. Nobody wants. Doesn't do blow and crazy. A square macho. That's no fun. So he fights Sal Lopez, who's 17-1-1.

This is an accidental clash of heads in the second round, and the referee calls it a draw. They both get cut. So it's called a draw, 57-3-1. April 96, he's in Texas fighting Wilbur Garst, who's 19-4-1. TKO win for Hector in the seventh. June 96, in Atlantic City, he fights Hands of Stone Roberto Duran. Another legend.

Duran, a little long in the tooth at this point. 96-11 for Duran coming into this fight. Jesus Christ. He's about done here, almost. But this is a unanimous decision win for Hector. And July 11th, 96, Madison Square Garden versus Craig Houck, who's 55-30. TKO in the second round. That's Hector's 60th win.

Wow. 60-3-1. August 20th, 96, Madison Square Garden Theater. i don't know what the fuck that is msg garden theater it's another small room another side room who knows he fights a bunch of them arturo nina who is 10 20 and 1 and the the end of his career he goes 3-19 and then finally retires. How does he get a fight against Hector? Hector's just looking for a punching bag, a tune-up, I guess. That's all I can think of.

Maybe he has a bigger fight coming up, but it doesn't seem like it. Unanimous decision in 10, obviously, for Hector. October 96, he fights Heath Todd, 32-10. Maybe the worst name I've ever heard fights Heath Todd, 32-10. Maybe the worst name I've ever heard. Heath Todd? A terrible name. TKO in the sixth round, 62-3-1 for Hector.

So he's killing it. February 28, 1997. This is the night before he is scheduled to fight Sugar Ray Leonard in a very high-profile fight. This is Leonard's comeback fight. Hasn't fought in a few years. Okay?

Yeah. Big deal. This fight would have been hot shit in 1987. But unfortunately, it's now 1997. This is a little different than it was. So this is from Randy Gordon again, the Ring Magazine guy. He says, quote, The Macho Man, as sports fans have come to know him,

was 24 hours away from stepping into the ring at the convention center against Sugar Ray Leonard. Drinking a bottle of water, Camacho sat on the couch with his feet up on an ottoman, looking totally relaxed and sounding as confident and brash as ever. He was 34 and past his prime, but had enjoyed one of the finest training camps ever. The great Ray Leonard, what was left of Leonard as

a fighter at 40, had not. 40 Ray is at this point. Camacho told me he was going to win the fight. I could see how he meant it. He could see I believed him. He also said he was going to win the big fight, that he could dominate Leonard, even knock him out. I could see he meant those words, too.

I could see he believed what he was telling me. He could see I didn't. He didn't think he could do it. He told me he was not the Macho Camacho of 87 anymore, but he quickly pointed out that it wasn't Sugar Ray Leonard of 87 anymore either. So, you know, Hey, he told me that 97, the 1997 version of Hector Macho Camacho would be too much for 1997 Sugar Ray Leonard. He's a few years younger and a Sugar Ray's 36, two and one coming into this fight. So yeah, he was anlympic boxer that's why he was so famous he was famous from his first fight he never did that whole um you know 20 fights anonymously in the

middle of nowhere to build up his thing he just went to the olympics and that was all of his thing he came out smart with big profile fights right away yeah good fighter so march March 1st, 97, TKO in the fifth round for Macho. He does knock Sugar Ray out. That is Sugar Ray's last fight. He goes, I'm 40 years old. I can't be having people punch me in the face anymore. This is crazy. I'm pretty sure I watched that fight.

And the vast majority of people there were for fucking Sugar Ray. Oh, yeah. He was the comeback kid. And then Macho's all flamboyant. And Macho kicked his ass. 63-3-1. As well as the same night, that night, I believe, yeah, was there in Atlantic City. One of Hector's entourage, one of his posse, Maximo Vasquez, was arrested and charged with conspiring to distribute cocaine.

Oh, he was dealing with that. So yeah, he had his buddy with him with a bunch of coke, so that was in the paper. August 1997, he's making speeches to kids now. Fantastic. He's nowhere near good now, by the way. He's going to be arrested so many times. He said, I was just like y'all. That's how he starts it.

I was hanging on the streets. I even saw six psychiatrists. They couldn't even figure out what was wrong with me. He said, everybody has their time, and I had mine. The thing is to try to find something you're good at. As time goes on, you'll be all right. Okay. Who taught this motherfucker y'all? He't he's been in florida a while now

maybe that's it it's a florida thing you're right yeah he did that one fight in west virginia could ruin you remember we stopped for food that time yeah i i was worried anything could have happened to us could have changed us forever jimmy september 13th 1997 the thomas and max center fighting a 25 and oh oscar delahoya he ducks he ducks nobody goes for the biggest fights the biggest paydays he's got a huge balls on him here this goes the distance as well this is wild. Camacho gets knocked down in this fight once, which is a huge deal. He never goes down. 63-4-1 in a unanimous decision loss

for Camacho. But De La Hoya said this way about it. He was very proud of himself. He said, listen, Chavez and Felix Trinidad couldn't knock him out or drop him. At least I dropped him. He felt proud that he actually knocked him down. January 1998, charges are filed against him.

Well, actually, March 1998, they're filed against him from January, where Amy, his wife, files a complaint against him after he broke down a door in their home and threatened to destroy her car and the garage door. Oh, you can't do that. Yeah, he said that she accused him of regular substance abuse and adultery in the complaint. She obtained a restraining order against him, but it expired last month after the couple failed to show up in family court. So she said that he hadn't bothered her since the temporary injunction was issued on January 20th, but now he came over kicking doors and threatening her.

Okay. March 1998. He's arrested for DUI. Guess what he's doing? 40 on the freeway? Weaving with no lights on again that'll do it holy fuck bro you can't do that man um so he's jesus christ there's i guess he's at a bar i suppose i think this is yeah yeah he was at a bar uh he spent several hours at La Carmencita there, and then he ended up stealing $20 from a patron and running out, which is strange. He left about midnight and was arrested shortly after 2 a.m. after a deputy saw him driving like a lunatic.

He nearly fell as he tried to get out of his car, a Chevy Blazer, so it's not like he's in an 18-wheeler, and admitted drinking, of course, as well. The cop said Mr. Camacho smelled strongly of alcohol and slurred speech. His picture looks like he does not know where he is. He's been a fucking mess. So he's released from the jail about 2 p.m. the next day. He said he was groggy. He said, this is a cop, said, I don't know exactly what he ingested. He was just all fucked up. They didn't know what he was on. Coke and booze is my guess. If I had to have a quick

guess here. He refused to give a urine sample, which means he'll lose his driver's license for a year automatically. The place he was at was a regular hangout of his. They display his fucking picture. They hang his autographed picture up. He's there all the time. And he took a $20 bill that a customer asked him to sign for the customer's cancer-stricken brother, and Hector just took the $20 and left. What the fuck? Will you sign this for my brother he loves

you he's got cancer all i have is this 20 bill and hector was like yoink and fucking ran away i will take this holy shit um a guy named uh pagan santiago he's the 59 year old acting manager here he was filling in he's not even the whole manager that night he told camacho to give the money back at that point hector punched this man several times in the stomach and chest with the sides of his fist so he just showed him how easily i could fuck you up basically just kind of gave him a pop up of a pop like you want to fuck with me leave me alone so uh camacho became increasingly rowdy, ripped the customer's pants. How do you rip someone else's pants? I want these to be jeans so bad.

Me too. Up the side. How the fuck do you do that? Then he broke a beer bottle as he leaped over the bar. What? Imagine this scene. Hey, my brother's got cancer, man. Yeah, he he's not doing real well he's a big fan of yours would you mind signing this this is all i have yoink give him that back pop pop pop fuck you sad rip your fucking pants smash a beer bottle

jump up on the fucking bar i'm macho man what the fuck are you doing how did this start this got crazy fast wow uh the guy who handed in the 20 bill juan rivera who's an auto mechanic trying to get a autograph for his sick brother poor guy last 20 they said what happened he said he just went off yeah he didn't know what the fuck happened. He just started going batshit. So that is fucking hilarious. He ends up bonding out on, what is it, $500 or something. They let him bond out. He admitted he was drinking, refused to take the blood alcohol test.

And he's been a bit of a mess. He ended up, I guess, he agreed to the urine test. Then when they asked him several questions about drugs, he changed his mind and wouldn't give it to him anymore. So the prosecutors somehow decide not to pursue DUI charges for lack of evidence on him. Okay. They didn't get the blood or piss out of him. So they never had any proof that he was fucked up we just breathalyzed the man we just uh he waited him out yeah it's drugs he's on all sorts of drugs i think it's mixed with the beer is the problem so petty theft and battery charges though were

also dropped what the fuck so this guy is just slippery teflonon Macho Man. June 12, 1998. Turning Stone Resort and Casino, Verona, New York. He fights Tommy Small, some middle of the road guy. TKO in six rounds. August 11, 1998. Miko Suki, Indian Gaming Resort in Miami. He fights Tony Menefee, who's 62-4. Hector wins the fight.

Unanimous decision. October 23rd, 1998, back at the Mountaineer Casino. Can't get enough. He fights Ken the Cobra Sigurani, who's 22-2, and this is his last fight because Hector beats him. 1998, he has

another son with Amy. Oh my god. Another son. Stop, please. There please so many kids tyler is his name also in 1998 he appears on the wayans brothers show remember the wayans brothers brothers show fucking marlon and sean who was on for like five years they had the tribe called quest song in the beginning no they were fucking they were no no it was a sitcom no it was a sitcom oh they were you know in a situation they did their thing they worked at a hotel remember the beginning had eclectic relaxation the fucking tribe called quest song that was their fucking opening credit song evidently have no idea about this they had tribe as their opening music so that's's hot shit. The show was kind of a shitty show, but just Tribe in the beginning makes me watch it.

I don't give a fuck. So he portrayed Manuel Hot Pepper Lopez. Yeah. Was he a fighter? He was. He staged a fight against Marlon Sucker Punch Williams, who was Marlon Wayans. That was the point of it. November 1998, he stopped with driving infractions after a motorcycle accident.

Does he have a motorcycle license? No. Who the fuck knows? Probably not. He fled after crashing his motorcycle at 12.30 p.m. Lunchtime. Middle of the day. Middle of the day he uh apparently was traveling south when he entered a construction zone lost control of his 1998 suzuki motorcycle motorcycle skidded camacho

was thrown onto the road he was wearing a helmet he did suffer some road rash around his shoulders which means he would have cracked his fucking skull open if he wasn't wearing a helmet. And he was seen then. He got up and was seen running from the area, quote unquote. Then the cop said, I later went to his residence, spoke with him and charged him. So stupid. You can't leave the scene of an accident. He went to his house.

Road rash all over him and, you know, get in the car. Get in the fuck. Well, he gives him three tickets, reckless driving, driving on a suspended license, and operating a motorcycle without endorsement. You're not allowed to even ride a motorcycle, dummy. One lieutenant said he dumped his motorbike and afterward went back to his house and they had to go write him some tickets. That's what the lieutenant said he dumped his motorbike and afterward went back to his house and they had to go write him some tickets. That's what the lieutenant said.

March 99. He's still fighting. Still. Scott Smithy fights. Unanimous decision in 10. They're all going a long distance, too. June 18th, 99. Patrick P.J. Goosen.

Okay. He's 19 and 1. This fights a unanimous decision for Hector. 68-4-1. October 21st, 1999 in Washington, D.C., Manuel Esparza. 19-6-1. TKO win for Hector in five. 69-4-1.

November 27th, 1999. Jorge Vaca. He fights who's 62 and 22. And this is a draw. It stopped in the third round after, I believe, another accidental double headbutt. April 2000, in Detroit, Bobby Elkins he fights. Listen to this shit. Bobby Elkins coming into the fight, 29 and 9, which is not bad.

When he's finally done boxing, his record is 29 and 9 which is not bad when he's finally done boxing his record is 29 and 22 he lost a lot he could not get that 30th win that he was trying for so badly to get it fuck talk about just losing it going from decent to just i can't win a fight wow tko in the fifth round this is hector's 70th win. 74-2 is his record. Oh, my God. 70 wins, 4 losses, 2 draws. June 9, 2000 in Verona, New York. Billy Fox, he fights. This is Billy Fox's last fight, too. He's retiring people now. Unanimous decision for Hector. June 16,th 2000 this is a week later

what the fuck is up with that oh no this is July I'm sorry 16th and he fights terrible Tim Bryan alrighty terrible Tim gets TKO'd in the 5th it's a terrible Tim TKO yep that's right

72-4 February 3rd 2001 2001 in Miami. TNT Troy Lowry. 24-1. Hector beats him. Yeah. Now he's an old man beating up incomers. It's fucked up.

February 2001, he is arrested for outstanding child support. Oh, he's not even paying. Fucking dildo. March 4th, 2001. A mere month later. Here, he's not even paying. Fucking dildo. March 4th, 2001, a mere month later. Here, let me set the scene for you, Jimmy, shall we, everyone out there in podcast land? Picture it. Spanish Harlem. 2.45 a.m.

The Latin Palace Nightclub. Yeah. This is going to go well for old Hector here. Latin Palace Nightclub. Yeah. This is going to go well for old Hector here. At 2.45 a.m., officers from the narcotics unit searched the Latin Palace Nightclub on 2nd Avenue near 116th Street and arrested Camacho and 12 others on narcotics violations. Oh, shit. Police said Camacho was holding two bags of cocaine.

He was charged with seventh-degree criminal possession of a controlled substance. He had two half-gram glassine envelopes worth, he bought two 20s is what they said, in his pocket. Cops had been watching the club for a month making undercover drug purchases from a customer and a bartender who were just selling coke out of there. Making a couple buys inside the bar, cops armed with a search warrant, nabbed four people outside the club and nine of the 20 people inside on drug-related charges. They said Camacho appeared very intoxicated and became indignant when detectives began to search patrons for drugs. I'm the macho man. How dare you? Straight up indignant. They said he balled up his fists ready to fight.

Then he was surrounded by several officers, which was more like eight. And after that, they said he, quote, opened his hands and went peacefully. It was like two at a time is one thing, but not eight. So Camacho had his $85,000 Jaguar parked across the street from the club he was wearing black leather pants a black turtleneck and a shitload of gold including his giant macho chain dangling one of the cops said sorry that is a fascinating choice an outfit it's a hilarious outfit he's just a turtleneck and a giant metal uh gold chain he's dressed like a weird model yeah like with a gold chain one of the cops said quote he looked like mr t

mr tiny mr tiny t so uh they said that um yeah he's going he's this is what he keeps doing now teddy atlas who was a big boxing commentator and was in the game for a long time, he said that this speaks loudly to the rumors that Camacho has wasted much of his talent. People have said because of his lifestyle outside the ring, he never reached his full potential. He's pretty fucking good. I would say so. Yeah. In his prime, he was great. I mean, maybe he would have been better otherwise, but he was pretty fucking great.

I mean. I'd say he reached his full potential yeah he said though nowadays he said his skills are diminishing atlas said people aren't lining up to watch hector camacho anymore nobody wants to pay money to watch the kind of people you have to put in the ring with him nobody will fight him he said we put a couple of his fights on espn too and they helped me get a good night's sleep. They were so boring. The ratings weren't there, and that's the final bell for a fighter. He fights on the deuce now. That's it.

June 2001, cocaine charges are dropped. Oh. The cops moved in with the search warrant to bust the club, but apparently the warrant did not allow the cops to also search the patrons who weren't specifically listed in the warrant, like the bartender and that one customer. Had the case gone to trial, they basically would have thrown out the bags of cocaine on him and then they had nothing. So the defense attorney said, by law, you can't just have a general search. I think the prosecutors knew that they would have had a lot of trouble down the road with this case. So they dropped it.

July 14th, 2001. This is like Methuselah battling fucking father time here. July 14th of 2001. Pepsi Center in Denver. Camacho versus Roberto Duran. Again, literally 15 years ago. Top notch fight. But we are well past that now.

Durant's 103-15 coming into this one. Jesus Christ. And this is a big fucking arena, too. Oh, yeah, the Pepsi Center is where the Nuggets play, isn't it? Yeah, it sure is. Unanimous decision win for Macho in 12. He's 74-4-2 at this point. August 31, 2001, a mere month and a half later he is arrested

obviously yeah he uh he's arrested by the florida highway patrol they get him at 605 a.m on suspicion of driving while intoxicated oh boy still awake from jesus christ yeah he's had all sorts of problems he said all this shit dropped they're before. Jesus Christ. Yeah, he's had all sorts of problems. He said all this shit dropped, they're talking about, but now he's got this. 2001, he gets divorced also. Amy said enough. She's out now. Yeah.

She said that he, quote, was never going to stop. He blatantly said, I like it. I love it. You met me like this, and I'm going to stay like this. I'm going to do blow and fuck girls while i drive that aren't you that's bottom line i like it i love it i'm starting to sing lyrics to a song so i'm gonna change it up real quick i like it i love it i want a gram of it you know how it goes the song right that's how it is i want a gram of it piece of shit it's awful fucking awful isn't it like a chili's commercial or something uh which makes it worse

or apple bees or some crap i don't know some shit restaurant whose appetizers are the highlight of their entire fucking cuisine which tells you it's a great restaurant have some have some egg rolls with corn inside them yeah and that's the best thing they have yeah when you just say steak no one would eat a steak here that That's what that is. Egg rolls with pulled pork. Yeah. No good. So it's just all cabbage. Nothing else.

Where's the pork? Cabbage and corn was supposed to have pulled pork. Now he's shit out of luck. Yeah. The kid's left. The wife's gone. He moved out. He's got kicked out of his house.

His career is waning. He's getting arrested every other day. Things are not going well at this moment in time. He moved out. He's got kicked out of his house. His career is waning. He's getting arrested every other day. Things are not going well at this moment in time. He needs guidance is what he needs. He needs some kind of guidance. He needs to talk to somebody who's going to be honest with him and tell him something. Someone who loves him. Someone who'd do anything for him.

You know who he needs, Jimmy? Who's that? He needs Vinny Pazienza's ma. That's's who he needs that's the only person supportive enough and he goes over to her house to get cheered up and she says how is it you've come to arrive here? Oh, my God. Hector, what's wrong with you? So much talent. Your son, oh, your second, your middle son is adorable. Oh, my God. I want to eat up his cheeks.

They're amazing. Please, wait. By the way, hold on. I have some leftovers you're going to take with you after I'm done yelling at you, but take them with you. Oh, my God. Hector, you're ruining your life. Please stop it. Oh, God.

Why are you wearing that it's freezing outside you're gonna catch something oh my god hector hector please come back hector don't leave hector please no and then she explodes yeah she just explodes she's had she's too worried it's all over with, and her head explodes. And Hector's like, wow, Italian mothers are nuts. I'm leaving. And he leaves. So he leaves to get in another fight. January 18, 2003.

Otillo Villarreal here, 15 and 15. Oh, that's a person. That's not a place. No, it sounds like it. He's at the Otillo Villarreal in lovely San Diego. Sounds nice. No, it's in Fort Lauderdale. It's a dump.

He TKO's this guy nine rounds, 75-4-2. 2003, right away, he gets engaged. What? He gets engaged to a woman who he's been with for the last five years sound weird yeah it does it is why is that because he was married till two years ago yes maybe that's why he's divorced uh there's a woman named shelly salmasi salamasi uh they end up being together for 15 years. We'll talk about it, though, because he's still got other relationships,

ones that are very public, while he still has this woman also. It's bonkers. She lives in Detroit and just, like, flies in to see him and stuff, and they've had the longest-term relationship while he's married and other relationships. It's like a permanent Gumar he has here. It's fucking weird. Good for him. They never get married, though, but they do get engaged.

Okay. And will be for a long time. April 18, 2003, in Raleigh, North Carolina, he fights Irish Chris Walsh. Jesus. Very creative. 18-6-1. This is stopped in the sixth round, and it's a technical decision loss for him. There was some kind of cut, and it was not an accidental.

Whatever happened, if you get cut too bad and you can't continue, you lose. So he ends up losing on a technical decision. So technical decision, 75-6-2 for Hector. Jesus, December 5, 2003, Coconut Creek, Florida. Craig Houck again, which is the same guy he fought a while back. This fight, I'll read a description of it. It was an odd fight as Houck continuously turned his back on Camacho throughout the fight. What is that?

What the fuck? Camacho had Houck in trouble in the first round before Houck caught an overzealous Camacho with a left hook and floored him. The third knockdown against him in his career. That's only the third time he's been knocked down in over 80 fights. Think about that. That's unbelievable. Fighting Roberto Duran, Trinidad, Chavez, De La Hoya, fuck everybody you can imagine.

Three times. He said Camacho bounced back up. It wasn't like a knockdown he had to sit there. It was like, oh shit, I fell down. I better pop back up again. He said Camacho bounced back up and battered Houck a knockdown he had to sit there. It was like, oh shit, I fell down. I better pop back up again. He said Camacho bounced back up and battered Houck for the remainder of the round. He knocked Houck near the end of the

first and eventually won by knockout in round three. So he whooped this guy's ass. Just happened to get caught with a lucky punch and knocked him off balance. 76-6-2 there. July 3rd, 2004. Biloxi, Mississippi. Clint McNeil was 15-6. Unanimous decision wins. 76-77-6-2 there. July 3, 2004, Biloxi, Mississippi. Clint McNeil, who's 15-6. Unanimous decision wins.

76-77, 6-2. January 6, 2005. He is arrested. Holy shit. Gulfport, Mississippi. Four or five fights and then arrest. Yeah. He gets some energy out and then he's like, I got stuff to do.

This is the weirdest arrest of them all. Okay. January 6, 2005, Gulfport, Mississippi. All right. They arrest him in a casino because that's where they track him down. He didn't commit the crimes at the casino. He's charged with one count of commercial burglary. All right.

He broke into a computer store. Oh, shit. He broke into a computer store called ZDI Computer Center. He crashed through the ceiling tiles into the business like a fucking Ocean's Eleven here. The owners, Solomon and Samantha Wheelereler discovered their business had been broken into and ransacked. Someone had stolen seven laptop computers and cash. They said,

quote, whoever did this had to have held himself up to, uh, on the rafters to move through the building. It looks like the burglar fell right through the ceiling. So that's an interesting way to put it. Uh, pictures taken by the Wheeler showed blood splattered on computers and walls bleeding all over the ceiling. So that's an interesting way to put it. Pictures taken by the wheeler

showed blood splattered on computers and walls, bleeding all over the place. It's a long fall, man. It is, but here's the part that bothered the wheelers the most. There was urine soaking parts of Mr. Wheeler's office. Quote, he actually peed in my fax machine and down around the carpet

okay i know that's terrible for those people but i've never heard the words he peed in my fax machine put into a sentence before so that's funny i'm sorry that's just random words it's striking funny peeing in my fax machine a fax machine's got that like it's got that phone area and then like the printer scanner piece for like you to send the fax he tried to fax the piss and then it's got that other side where the yeah it comes out where the fact yeah that's where he pissed i think he pissed on top he's like i'm gonna send my piss to fucking my girl in detroit right now turn your fax machine on sweetheart

and her husband then continued with the lurid details quote the only thing we could think of was maybe he fell through the ceiling and urinated in the process because everything from about head level down in that corner was soiled upon. And I had to clean it up. It was quite disgusting. Head level. So he spun around with it aimed up. Yeah, he shot around being like, I'm a macho man. Fucking swinging it, I feel like.

Right? Flamboyantly pissed. During the arrest, police found 10 ecstasy tablets on him as well. Oh, my God. Yep, and charging him with felony possession of a controlled substance as well as commercial burglary. These aren't good charges to get here. Police chief said that after they charged him with the burglary, they brought him back to Biloxi to face the other charge. He is being held on $75,000 bond.

Also, the state's boxing commissioner says the arrest could impact his ability to fight in Mississippi in the future. And when they got to him, he was inside the Imperial Palace Hotel and Casino in Biloxi in a $35 room that wasn't even in his name. Oh my God.

With his pills, too. That's depressing. Not good. It's falling apart for him. Vinny Pazienza's mom needs to take him in and cook him a dinner. Make him something good. Fix it. July 9th, 2005. Convention Center in Tucson. Jesus Christ. It's getting ugly.

Raul El Toro Munez he's fighting. 17 and 6. He wins it. Does Hector. 78, 6 and 2. At this point he's got a girlfriend. Along with the girlfriend who he's seeing the whole time he's got his also this is a showpiece i'd like to call he's got a side piece and a showpiece this is bonita money do you know who she is you ever heard of her money is she a singer no uh she was an actress she's in a couple videos and then

she's a producer now she's big in the weed scene actually she's big in the legal weed scene and a bunch of other things but she's also in the dr dre let me ride video oh which is interesting she's also in the movie lombada remember that terrible movie lombada it's fucking hilarious but it's probably oh it's hilarious it's so funny yeah latin it's it's so funny it's probably. Oh, it's hilarious. Stomp the yard. It's so funny. Yeah. Latin. It's so funny. It's dancing. It's this weird dancing shit. So she's in that.

She's also in Terror in Beverly Hills in 1989. Yeah. And then she's in Phoenix the Warrior in 1988 as a snake dancer. So there's that. In 2003, she was an executive producer on Cradle to the Grave. Remember the DMX movie? Yeah. She's an executive producer in that.

She also produced The Normal Life in 1996. She also, in 2005, before all of this, she was arrested along with her nephew, Lewis Cash Money. His last name is Money lewis cash money and another man for kidnapping her estranged husband according to the associated press the group planned to force her estranged husband to testify on behalf of lewis cash money at a criminal trial their plan fell apart when they realized they forgot to bring his personal identification the guy they kidnapped and he wouldn't be able to get on a plane without it so they can't kidnap him and take him somewhere they don't have his fucking id it's all screwed up

so she seems that's her hardy well they they do party september 17th, 2006. They're both arrested. This is fucking, he met his match now. Both arrested on assault charges. Both of them. They're at, they got into an argument about 3 a.m. at the Paquita's Cafe in the Fairfield section of the Bronx. And the dispute spilled outside, and apparently he started punching her

while she fought back and scratched his face. Hold on. So they did not get in a couple's fight where they're fighting another couple. No, no, no. They beat the shit out of each other in the street. Out of each other in the street. Started in the restaurant.

One of them said, you want to go outside, motherfucker? And they said, hell yeah, bitch. And they stepped outside. She was scratching his face. He was fucking punching her her and they were both holding their own apparently unbelievable fucking nuts man in the street that's the toxic relationship you think you want to step outside make something of it should never come up in a relationship. That's ugly. Holy shit. So Bonita ended up calling the police from inside the bar on the ground floor of the W Hotel here to report the assault. They both alleged the other had been the attacker, and they both had marks all over them.

So it was clear that they both beat the shit out of each other. So they're both arrested for assault in the third degree a misdemeanor and um at 8 50 a.m there was no signs visible signs of abuse on either person it just looks like both of them gotten a scrap like a little bit mark here scratch there um at their arraignment lawyers said they expect all charges to be dropped and both were freed without bail. He's on the way out. Police asked him what happened. And Macho said, quote, I didn't hit her. That woman's odd.

She's a character. Really? He claimed the shit started when he went to the cafe there. It's in Parchester there. And he said that he is a frequent customer. And, you know, he knows that. He left Bonita Money waiting outside in the car. And she got angry even though, quote, I went out and asked her to go in with me.

She said I was disrespectful. She hit me in the head. He said I'll go in and get the food. And then she said, okay. And then she saw him flirting or, you flirting or talking to some waitress flirting. And then she said, you want to go in there and talk to your waitress and smacked him in the fucking head. He says, though, quote, I love Benita. It just got a little out of hand.

And they're back together. Everything's fine. Fascinating. This guy's life is fucking insane. Is it not? What a wild life this guy leads all together fighting in the street in the middle of the bronx with your fucking girlfriend fist fighting with her that's crazy 2007 and i'd say that maybe you know i it's i don't even know who's who's abusing who he's punches people she's apper. I don't know who's fucking at fault here. They're both willing to fight each other.

That's too much. And she's bigger than him, too, is the other part. Not that that makes it any different, but these two are a special case, I'll just say. So 2007, he goes to court for the burglary of the computer store. He pleads guilty to being under the influence at the time of the burglary. Also in that whole thing. He's found guilty of everything. There's no way to hide it. It's on camera doing all this shit.

He pissed in the fax machine. He pissed in the fax machine. He is sentenced to, you, macho sir, may fuck off seven years in prison, Macho, sir. Yeah. May fuck off seven years in prison, but suspends all but one year of the sentence and gives him probation for the rest of it.

For that? No, no. For that six years and then orders him to spend a year under house arrest. Okay. That's a pretty steep. But he has permission to serve that in Puerto Rico if he wants. Oh. So they don't even have to stay here.

Yeah. He served two weeks in jail after violating the probation. They let him back out again. They said if he violates any of the conditions set at sentencing, he'll have to serve the entire seven years. In prison. In prison. In prison. Yeah. In a Mississippi prison. Yikes. of the conditions set at sentencing he'll have to serve the entire seven years in prison in prison yeah in a mississippi prison yikes the yikes um he said quote i am deeply sorry that's all he said that's it he said he's deeply sorry apologizes the uh judge declined to hear a motion to dismiss

the drug charge after they found the ecstasy. So he's also got a trial set up for that as well. So he's pretty fucked at this point. He's pretty fucked. 2008, though, he's out of jail somehow. He's at the Hall of Fame ceremony for the Boxing Hall of Fame. He's standing there with Randy Gordon, his buddy with the articles. This is from Randy Gordon.

Quote, at the International Boxing Hall of Fame induction weekend in 2008, I spent a few hours with Macho Man. At one point, he reached in his pants pocket and pulled out a small bag. It was filled with white powder. Yeah. Want some? Want some, he asked. You know I don't do that stuff, Hector.

I can't believe you won't even try it. Hector said. Yeah, I grabbed his wrist. Yeah, I brought this for you. I grabbed his wrist. Put it away. Put it away. Now, I said angrily. Damn, you're 46 years old.

Isn't it time you grew up? He looked at me with puppy dog eyes. I'm sorry, Randy. This stuff just always makes me. Then he said,andy said stop i bark just stop you're too good of a person too much of a man too much of a fighter too much of a champion to let this evil possess you like this hector as your longtime friend i beg of you to stop please he put a hand on his shoulder he looked as if he was gonna cry cry. Quote, I can't promise I will stop.

You thought this was the big moment. It's not. I can't promise that, man. But I promise I will try. And then he went and did a line of blow in the fucking bathroom and forgot about it. July 18, 2007. Reliant Arena in Houston. He's still fighting.

He's 46. It's enough. Jesus Christ. Perry the Punisher Ballard, who's 20-1 coming into this. And a youngster. A youngster. This is a TKO win for Hector, though. Really?

In the seventh round, 79-6-2 is his record. And I'm trying to think. I believe that's it for him. He might have one more. Yeah, I think he has one more. December 31, 2008, he sues Bonita. Bonita Money for money. He said that she stole $125,000 from him, and he charges in a lawsuit.

Says that she convinced Wachovia Securities to move money from his account there to her account at the Bank of America. The suit claims that he never authorized the move. Now he wants $1 million from the bank, too, to ease his pain, he said. So this is fucking funny. So the next fight, he's fighting 37-year-old Luis Ramon Campos in Atlantic City. 37-year-old Luis Ramon Campos in Atlantic City, but the New Jersey Athletic Control Board refused to grant Camacho a license in the state after watching his sluggish performance during a sparring session. So they had to move it to Florida, where they'll let fucking 90-year-old people beat each other with sledgehammers in the streets,

and you can legally bet on it. They don't care. Come on down to Florida. We love brain damage. It's cool. Surprisingly enough, Atlantic City is the beacon of morality here. Right? This is what I mean.

We're talking about Jersey. So we're not putting Jersey up on a pedestal. We're just saying, holy shit, Florida, get it together. So he fights at the Doubletree hotel in orlando there's a bunch of disney families they're like let's go down and watch those two puerto ricans beat the shit out of each other what do you say honey sure we'll bring the kids how many ears were in the seats people with their fucking swim trunks and towel over their shoulder on the way to the pool just stopping by to take a gander. He's peeking in the door.

Yeah. He fights Yori Boy Campus at this fight. He's a good fighter. 92 and 14 coming into this fight. Jesus Christ. Split decision draw. One for each and fucking one down the middle. 79, 6, and 3.

Uh-3. Now Hector goes on Univision's version of Dancing with the Stars. He's dancing. He's eliminated in the first round. He's not a dancer. Finally, May 14, 2010. This is his last fight, finally. Civic Center in Kissimmee, Florida. Jesus, the only place he can fight.

Versus Baby Saul Duran, who's 36 and 12. Goes the distance, but a unanimous decision loss for Hector. And that's that. He is done. It is Mirakwian Baila. I don't know how the fuck you say that. It's the Dancing with the Stars show he was on. He then joined Univision Entertainment News Program, El Gordo La Flaca, as a critic and an entertainment newscaster.

February 12, 2011, he is near a housing project in San Juan where he is talking to a friend or he's taking a friend to a nearby uh bar he's driving a 2005 bmw x5 yeah he is uh he's attempted card people try to carjack him he when he tries to drive away they get shot at three times and no it doesn't hit anybody he thinks it's a mistake he said quote since everybody loves me he didn't think the men realized who he was that's what he said they didn't know it was me he didn't even file a police report not worth it shots three shots um march 2012 he stars in on a dating game show titled it's macho time where women compete to be his girlfriend it's rock of love macho style yeah who wants to get punched by macho next is what it should be called who wants to be in a news article about domestic abuse jesus april 3rd, 2012. Arrested again.

So that's nice while the show's airing. He faces a felony count of child abuse after he turned himself in on a warrant from last year. This warrant alleges that, Jesus fucking Christ. Wow, they said that Camacho and his children, they said the neighbors called the police because there was yelling outside the home, but there was nothing to it. Meanwhile, he's accused of throwing his 12 year old son to the ground and stomping on him outside outside Amy's house. The police arrived. They didn't arrest Camacho, but later on, they end up goes through the grand jury process and they charge him with it. Later on, it goes through the grand jury process and they charge him with it after a while.

They said shortly after leaving the home, the complaint was filed alleging the actions against Mr. Camacho's teenage son. Mr. Camacho only recently learned of the complaint and accordingly volunteered to report to officials so that the matter can be resolved. He maintains a good relationship with his sons and would like to put all these matters behind him, which is always his thing there. sons and would like to put all this matters behind him, which is always his thing there. According to the police report, Camacho's son told authorities that he thought his father was, quote, high on drugs at the time of the assault. Probably. And that Camacho reportedly was upset about a bag of money he thought he left at his ex-wife's house. Meanwhile, the kid ended up saying that he actually had the bag of money, but he hid

it so his father couldn't take it and buy drugs because he didn't want his father to go buy a bunch of coke that's what his kid was doing he's 12 his kid this isn't a grown man he's a child they said mr camacho immediately involuntarily reported to the orange county sheriff's department when he learned that a complaint had been filed against him regarding a domestic dispute that occurred a year ago a family dispute took place at the home of Mr. Camacho's children and a neighbor called police when the dispute entailed yelling. The police arrived but did not at that time file a complaint.

Now, holy shit, I feel bad for his kids at this point. You know, it's not a good day to be Hector Camacho right now. It's just a lot of stuff going on. It's crazy. So I feel bad for him. I feel bad for his son, but not nearly as bad as I feel for Hector Camacho,

VP of Workforce Development and Dean of Admissions at Reach University in San Francisco. This guy went to Stanford. Vice President. I proudly descend from generations where we worked the field. I don't know what the hell he saw. Hector Camacho, mailroom services at Hunter College in Bronx, New York.

There you go. Hector in New York and the Bronx, a little farther uptown. Hector Camacho, assistant vice president at Fifth Third Bank in Chicago. He went to DePaul University. Vice president at Fifth Third Bank in Chicago. He went to DePaul University. Hector Camacho, engineering manager at Spectral Labs Incorporated in Amherst, Massachusetts. Hector Camacho, holy shit, head of people and retail at Glossier Inc.

He went to Penn State University. Human resources guy there. So a lot of Camachos out there. Plenty with great jobs. Yeah, that's fucking crazy. So he goes to court for the abuse here. Now, I'm going to read from this article because it's wild. During the hearing, the judge repeatedly scolded Camacho and his ex-wife, Amy Camacho, after she insulted him and he flipped her an obscene gesture.

He's flipping his ex-wife off in she's talking shit yeah um camacho's attorney said the bitterness has everything to do with the child abuse case but camacho said it has to do with money um prosecutors wanted the judge to revoke camacho's bond for repeatedly trying to contact his now 13 year old son however the judge did not revoke camacho's bond he repeatedly trying to contact his now 13-year-old son. However, the judge did not revoke Camacho's bond. He did order the former champ not to contact the son he's accused of beating. During the hearing, Camacho jumped up in the court when his son Christian testified that his mother grabbed a knife for protection after Camacho had beaten his little brother. Stay calm, please, the judge said to Camacho. I am sorry, I am sorry, Macho said.

Camacho also acted up after his son insulted him. What a son, Camacho said, after his son said he was high on drugs. So the judge said, Mr. Camacho. And Hector said, I love him. And the judge said, quiet, please. Shut the fuck up. We don't care. Hector said, I love him.

And the judge said, quiet, please. Shut the fuck up. We don't care. So Camacho told them that Camacho stomped on him and tried to punch him. But the defense said his story is questionable. Camacho said his ex-wife stole thousands from him, and that's what the case was about. Amy said, quote, I did not take anything from him. Miss Camacho, Miss Camacho, stop.

We're not here to try this case today, the judge said. This is just for please and initial thing. Camacho left. We're not presenting evidence right now. No, this is not what this is. And you're not even on the stand. You're out there. What are you doing? As he left the court, he talked shit about his ex-wife, saying that she lives the good life thanks to him and he called her a crook i know the feeling act then amy called him an animal and he called her a thief and that's they went home so this is nice jesus christ that's the best so his trial is set for september of 2012 amy camacho said that uh that he used to rough her up all the time when they were married. And obviously we know that he's got some problems. So he goes to hang out in Puerto Rico.

That's where he's going to go hang out here. He spends his time here in his hometown where he was born. He's partying, going to strip clubs and, quote, living the fast life of drugs alcohol sex and jail that's his life almost 50 that's what his son hector jr says in the documentary that's what he was doing down there at this time they said that his friends and family tried to get him to leave puerto rico and come back to new york because he's just he's ripping it he's like a college kid down there who's just got like an inheritance. He's years old, just going crazy.

Going batshit at 50. So one of his friends said, oh, this is Gonzalez, the bodyguard guy. We're like, get out of Puerto Rico, macho. He goes, you know what? I want to get out of here, man. I really do. But you can't force someone to fight. There was no stopping him.

He was just partying down there. November 20th, 2012, Hector and his friend are sitting in his friend's Mustang outside a bar in his hometown. When there's several men come up to them, but shots ring out. Oh, boy. Camacho is shot in the face. Hector's shot in the face. His friend is shot in the face hector shot in the face his friend is shot in the head the driver of the car adrian mojica moreno who was camacho's childhood friend is killed on the spot instantly police say that camacho is shot once the bar was called as you as you

quita uh in the north in the city there. They're sitting out there. They shoot Hector, too. He's unconscious. When the police come after the shots ring out, they find Hector has nine small bags of cocaine in his pocket and a tent that was open. Oh, no. So they had a bunch of coke on him just hanging out in the car. They were doing coke in the car before they go back in the bar to drink more. That's all. Camacho was rushed to the hospital where doctors initially said the bullet passed through his jaw and lodged

in his shoulder they said that the bullet damaged three or three of the four main arteries in camacho's neck and broke two vertebrae which could leave him paralyzed if he is to survive this whole thing through the neck into the shoulder holy shit pierced his jaw fractured his fifth and sixth cervical vertebrae lodging in his right shoulder forming a lesion to his cartoid artery or yeah carotid artery sorry that uh restricted the blood flow to his brain at one point the doctors announced that he's going to be okay but but he might be paralyzed. Then that day, he suffers a cardiac arrest during the night. And after that, he's brain dead. Oh, my God.

So this was on life support. So his mother comes down there. Once he's brain dead, the doctor said, quote, his recovery would be a miracle. Medically, there's nothing more that can be done. His recovery would be a miracle. Medically, there's nothing more that can be done. So his mother comes down there, and there's people having vigils outside for him. One of his friends said, it was one of his representatives, said, this guy is a cat with nine lives.

He's been through so much. If anybody can pull through, it'll be him. But he's brain dead and remains on life support for three days until his mother finally says okay after the cardiac arrest and they pull him off life support and he dies that's it camacho is dead yeah there's that so what a terrible way to die it's fucking crazy man he called it he knew it he knew it he knew it he knew it he called it. He knew it. He knew it. He knew it. He knew it. He knew it.

He knows he pisses people off. So the reaction, um, one of his friends, Juan Laporte, who's also a boxer. He says that he was always like a brother, always getting into trouble.

He's a good human being and a good hearted person. A lot of people think of him as a cocky person, but that was just his motto inside. He was just a kid looking for something. He said the people around him didn't have the guts or the strength to lead him in the right direction there was no one strong enough to put a hand on his shoulder and tell him how to do it well he didn't have a father really that hung around so that's why he didn't let anybody take that role

he said that uh one of his friends who flew from new york to puerto rico said that just an hour just hours after this guy was released from prison on a murder sentence, he received a call from Camacho, who was waiting outside his apartment in a black Porsche. Oh. He said, come down. I'm taking you shopping. Because of him, man, I got what I got today, pointing to pictures on his smartphone of his daughter. He said, because of Hector, I stopped the drug scene. He's helped so many people. He bought all of your drugs so that you didn't have to sell them anymore.

Julio Cesar Chavez said, even though people say I beat him easily, it wasn't that way. He was a very fast fighter. He faced everything and it was very hard for me. So that's a big deal. Chavez also said he revolutionized boxing. It's a shame he got mixed up in so many problems. That's a big compliment from him. Don King said the macho man was a promoter's dream. He excited boxing fans around the world with his intimidable style. He was a nice, amiable guy away from the ring. You think it's been crazy so far?

Here comes his funeral, Jimmy. Buckle up, everybody. Holy fuck um hundreds of people are there they hold him like in state basically like at this gym this arena so people can look at him and everything he wore white along with a large gold crucifix and the macho necklace of course as well he uh hundreds of people are taking pictures doing all of that the first people to come up were members of his immediate family including his mother who wept openly and and fucking you know sobbed they killed him they killed him after the family came a cross-section of people you know people from puerto rico that they that knew elderly people, all sorts of people. They said road workers are there paying their respects.

As the service began, hundreds of people stood and clapped for nearly a minute. Someone in the crowd yelled, what time is it? And the crowd yelled, it's macho time. So they were doing like wrestling shit with him. The secretary of the U.S. Island Territory Sports and Recreation Department for Puerto Rico said everybody loved him here in Puerto Rico. He's one of those athletes who transcended the barriers of his country, not only for his skill inside the ring, but his personality. So hundreds of people are there above the casket. There's a large screen that showed some of his big fights, highlights of his fights.

This is when the funeral gets interesting, okay? A woman shows up claiming to be Camacho's girlfriend. Hell yeah. And gets in a fist fight with his sister. Okay, this is amazing. Fuck yes. At the funeral. Cynthia Castillo pissed off that the Camacho family members she was mad at them when she arrived

she showed up according to this wearing a bright pink t-shirt with a photo of Camacho on it she leaned down and kissed him in his coffin oh my god a lot of people do that you're not you're not Italian or Spanish of any kind that's very

normal and that's a thing they take picture they take pictures. They kiss the... Yeah, it's all that shit. Kiss the corpse. Kissing and pictures are a big thing. Pictures are big because you got to send them. Yeah, I get the picture.

My grandfather, Phil Muerte on the back. I remember that. I was like, he's in a coffin. I think they understand he's dead. I would hope. You didn't have to put that. Phil Muerte on the back of the picture i'll never forget that for my grandfather kiss the corpse kiss the corpse so she did that then

this woman entered the designated area reserved for the close family yeah this pissed off camacho sisters especially gloria fernandez who started arguing with castillo. They end up taking their scuffle outside. They have to be separated physically by police because they're fighting at the funeral. She claims to be the most recent partner of Camacho and that the family attacked her for no reason. She said, I am Macho's current girlfriend and anyone who doesn't like it will have to swallow it.

They attacked me and that can't happen. They should be grateful because I was there with him. Wow. Castillo was encouraged to leave the wake while the sister went back inside. The police were like, you should probably leave. So then it was normal. So then they take him home to be buried in the Bronx. That's where he's buried.

Okay. His kids want him buried down there, but the mom wants him buried in the Bronx, and they're going to allow grandma's thing here. So it gets even crazier in the Bronx, okay? Mom had to be dragged kicking and screaming from Hector's grave after she refused to leave when the service ended. This is so Italian.

I know they're Puerto Rican, but it's so similar. It's frightening to me when I hear things like this. Yeah. A lot of people don't know that they don't let you watch while it's being put in the ground. Like, that's not a thing usually.

No, they got stuff now to do. That's, you know, you leave and then they have a job. She flailed her arms and fought back the mourners who tried to grab her. She was swinging at people as she tried to return to her son's casket before noon. She was screaming, my star, my star, before collapsing and being carried away, her arms outstretched in a prone position.

But moments later, the brother who was in the limo she was carried to popped out yelling cardiac, cardiac. An ambulance came and she's unconscious at this point. An ambulance comes and gives his mother oxygen and takes her away in the ambulance. Once she gets there, they realize she suffered a severe panic attack and made herself pass out. But she didn't have a heart attack. But this is fucking crazy um come camacho's son christian also got mad uh and said um and yelled at somebody else that he didn't like and said how could you do this to me i'm his son you're the devil

i don't know what's going on here. Camacho. So there's more to this, by the way, here. 300 people at the service in the Bronx with all this. Another woman shows up. Hell yeah. Now we're talking. His son walked into the church, looked at his father's clothes, cast it.

All this was going on. Okay. Shelly. Remember Shelly? Yeah. From the got engaged to 10 years ago. walked into the church looked at his father's clothes casted all this was going on okay shelly remember shelly from they got engaged to 10 years ago she shows up from detroit saying farewell that she said she spent christmas with him last year and has known him for 16 years macho i owned his heart she said i'm sure eventually we would have wound up together it's been 15 years what makes you think he's going to marry you? It ain't happening. She said that they've had a long distance relationship, but they'd spent time together just a few months ago.

She dissed the two girlfriends back in Puerto Rico who began swinging at each other. She said he would have been very embarrassed by that. He would have been thrilled by that, first of all. He would have loved that shit. He would have started putting money on it so the mother then announces that the police said they have three men in custody suspects for the murder of uh they're trying to piece together a motive she said they don't have all the evidence yet but soon they will no arrests are made right then okay that's 2012 2014 hector camacho jr writes a collaboration book about his comic book

called macho dad in which camacho is portrayed as uh as a superhero he's a hector i've seen that actually june 2016 inducted into the boxing hall of fame as he should be as far as boxing goes he gets it um he's deserves that october 20th 2020 another book was written about him called macho time the meteoric rise and tragic fall of hector camacho um december 2021 shelly again remember her she's back again she published a book of their real life story called the lady in the 10-time world champ going the distance with hector macho camacho that was released december 1st 2021 march 2022 i'm so happy we waited to do this story yeah march 2022 people are finally arrested for his murder 10 years later. Yup. The first suspects arrested nearly a decade after.

Five men are accused of slaying him, they say. And three of the suspects were serving federal sentences for unrelated crimes and were flown in from Florida as a part of what police called Operation Knockout. The fourth suspect was arrested in the pre-dawn hours in the same city where Camacho was killed, emerging with only a towel wrapped around his waist just minutes after police with long weapons surrounded his house and knocked on the window. A fifth suspect remains in Puerto Rico for an unrelated case. Rodriguez. Yes, his name is William Rodriguez. Rodriguez, Luis Ayala Garcia, Joshua Mendez Romero are being held on eight hundred thousand dollars bond. The fourth suspect is being held on three hundred thousand dollars bond. And the fifth suspect, Juan Figueroa Rivera, must be the trigger man because he's being held on a million dollars bond. Camacho's mother thanks the police. She said they gave me justice.

I can sleep in peace i can eat and drink a little cup of coffee in the morning now five men took them they said two others too they said two other suspects were killed in other unrelated events in 2013 and 15 that's your lifestyle yeah yeah so um she uh his mother also walked into the uh puerto rico's department of justice and raised her right fist and said justice justice has been done then in june 2022 a judge dismissed the case against all five suspects what the fuck prosecutors requested a second opportunity to have their case heard, adding that they have contracted or contacted authorities in Florida for help since they believe the witness is now there. The ruling comes three months after the Puerto Rico's Justice Department announced the accusations against them there.

So officials said two other suspects were killed. That's it. It's dismissed. No justice for Hector at all in his death. A crazy fucking ending to a crazy life. That's it. It matches his life. And that is Hector Macho Camacho.

And we didn't even scratch the surface, honestly. The guy was, what a story his life is. It's just crazy, man. There's so much. This could have been a four-parter. If we weren't ending the show, we would have made a three-parter out of this or something. Because he had a lot going on in his childhood and all this shit. The book details it.

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