Crime in Sports - #332 - A Tornado In A China Shop - The Bulkiness of Scott "Big Poppa Pump" Steiner

Episode Date: December 6, 2022

This week, we climb into the ring with a man who is known as being a little wacky, even for professional wrestling! He started a an All American wrestler in college, but was soon teaming with his brother, and conquering the pros. He has worked in all the major organizations, known as a large, dangerous man who has a hair trigger temper. This results in some truly wild behavior, including a couple of small, dumb acts, that could've landed him in prison for 25 years! Dye your hair blond & wear a chain bonnet, gain 50 pounds of muscle in 6 months, and feud with every major star of yesteryear on social media with Scott "Big Poppa Pump" Steiner!!Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!  Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman  Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail]  Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com  Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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crime and sports thank you for doing that and you'll get a shout out at the end of the show that said let's get into this all right here we go we are talking about scott carl rechsteiner better known as scott steiner you may know him as jim yeah you know scott steiner don't you jimmy yeah anybody steiner brothers anybody who watched wrestling in the 90s definitely knows Scott Steiner because he stood out in multiple ways, in different ways, too, from time to time. We'll get into all this. Very similar look to the Anvil, right? Nope, not at all.

Anvil's a fireplug. Nope, not at all. Nope, not at all. No, completely different body types. Anvil's like a fire plug with like no defined with goatee right anvil had no absolutely not no scott steiner had a big long mullet for most of the time then he had blonde short hair like that 90s bleach blonde hair oh yeah well yeah he was like the i mean he's like he put every mean, he has like, he put that steel mesh on like

whole of his hair. That was ridiculous. That was ridiculous when he put, we'll get into the mesh. The mesh was like, what the fuck? What did you put a screen on your head? What are you doing? Yeah, that's the Scott Steiner. Are you going jousting?

That's the only one. I don't remember the other one. Well, there's the 90s Scott, early 90s mullet Scott Steiner. Then there's the pre-chain on his head thing where he's just big papa pump where he's got the blonde hair and the sunglasses and he's saying all sorts of crazy sexual shit and what oh dude he is fucking insane his i can't wait for the quotes we're going to talk about his promos because his promos are normally wrestling promos are crazy but they're in character promos that are meant to promote something he goes out there and

just says shit that nobody the wrestling company doesn't want him to say because he's just saying crazy shit he'll start just talking bad about other wrestlers that he's not in a feud with has no he's not promoting a match he's just talking shit about a guy he doesn't like backstage and it's personal shit

it's not like I'm going gonna take your belt it's like your girlfriend's ugly i saw her at the fucking bar and she was blowing a guy like that what are you talking about what do you can't say that scott yeah and he's a lunatic i mean hair trigger temper lunatic as well so scott steiner born So Scott Steiner, born July 29th, 1962. He is from Bay City, Michigan. And he's got the Michigan accent, but with his voice being like that. So it's really like a strange combination. He has an older brother who you might know also, who is Robert, better known as Rick Steiner, which makes no sense to me. I never understood this. His name is Rob, so it goes by Rick.

Rob and Rick are the same thing. Do you think differently about a guy named Rob Steiner as opposed to Rick Steiner? To me, that's the same thing. Why would you bother changing it? It goes back to the thing we said before. Anybody named Rick or Ricky is a bad man. In the 80s, Rick was cool, too. in the 80s rick was cool too in the 80s rick was a cool name yeah in the mid 80s that was like there's a lot of people named rick rick was

cool schroeder well like in the 50s dick was a cool name and then that's all the richards went to no no rick rick not dick rick yeah that's how i figure it was ricky schroeder you had rick springfield you had all the ricks were out at that time rick rude ravishing ravishing rick but that's actually his name so i mean is it really yeah his name r-o-o-d-e but still his name is rick rude how fucking cool is that that's a cool amazing that's an amazing name he was just meant to be a cool guy. His name is Rick Rude. This baby's fucking cool. Yeah. Look at this baby.

Sexy. Look, he's got a mustache already. He's a sexy, hot baby. He's flexing. Look at him. You're going to be a Rick. You're going to be Rick Rude, aren't we? We are.

Is he gyrating his hips? That's wild. This baby is horny already so he's our guy here scott i was gonna say rick again scott is uh an amateur wrestler scott and rick are both amateur wrestlers and that's that's what's so strange about scott steiner is later on when he's got this weird chain thing on his head and he's all he's too bulky to really be very athletic in the ring and everything. Five years earlier, this guy was a fucking like an amateur style wrestler who did like suplexes, throwing people. Athletic shit.

Really athletic shit. The Steiners, as far as American wrestling goes, they really fit well in Japan. That's the style they do in Japan is hard-hitting, lots of action, and their style really fits there back in the day more than here. Their style was way ahead of its time here.

It really was. The Road Warriors did the thing where they mowed people over, but not with athletic shit like this. Scott Steiner, his finishing move, the Frankensteiner, was a fucking hurricanrana. That's all it was. You know what that is?

No. All right. Check this out. Don't you dare. Don't you dare throw. The late 90s, that was popping off everywhere with like Ray Mysterio. Throwing all these moves at us. Like Ray Mysterio Jr. and shit.

It's a very common wrestling thing. Oh, it's like, okay, off the ropes and stuff. No, no, no. Like you stand still, right? You stand up. I jump up and put my cock in your face with my legs on your shoulders, right? I jump up and sit on your shoulders, except rather than like your child is behind you at the fair, it's in front of you like you're blowing a man. We're 69, but I'm not 90 yet. No, no, I'm up.

I'm sitting up. Like if you were carrying your kid on your shoulders, except the other way. Yeah. But you need to flip over for 69. I'd have to flip. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. You're 69 to me, but I'm not nine.

And yeah, there's no niner. It's just me. You're just sixing the shit out of me. I'm just humping your face. That's it. While you stand. Okay. Now, as I'm humping your face, I flip backwards with your head between my legs and flip you

over and flip. And then I end up sitting with my ass on your chest so I can hump your face that way while you're on the ground. Oh. That's a hurricanrana. Okay. It's a whole flippy thing. Scott Steiner did that, his the guy would always end up

hitting his head on the fucking on the mat which isn't good but him doing it was crazy because back then it was like you know 175 pound lucha libre guys did that not 260 pound fucking right strong men so it was bull very ahead of his time being a big guy that did shit like that. But when he's a kid here, he's a wrestler, an amateur wrestler. It's funny that he was wrestling when he enters the University of Michigan as a wrestler. Him and his brother both go to University of Michigan. So they are legit, real wrestlers. He entered at 190 pounds, which I just can't picture 190-pound Scott Steiner.

Same size head likely, though. Huge head, big mullet, but 190, because he's like 100 pounds heavier later. That's 190s, wild. And thick. Everything's so big. He's a big motherfucker. He's just really big.

His brother, Rick, like i said always also wrestled there in 83 he was the uh he was in fifth he came in fifth place as in the big 10 i guess for wrestling that year um he was a runner-up in 84 a runner-up in 85 and in 86 he was an all-american shit all-american wrestler and placed sixth in the nation that year my god so sixth best in the nation that's pretty fucking good you know that'll get you into professional wrestling well if you if you have any any charisma that's the thing because there's a lot of olympic wrestlers most of the amateur wrestlers, it's almost like if they go too far in amateur wrestling, they have a hard time adjusting to professional wrestling because it's the opposite of what you're doing. In wrestling, amateur wrestling, everything is grab and pull. Whereas in pro wrestling, everything is go loose and go the other way.

They pull, you go with them, not you pull them. So it's a different thing. It's a give and you're not used to giving. Your automatic reaction is to snap back at them and it's not what you're doing in pro wrestling. There's no scoreboard on WWE. That's the other thing. And a lot of these guys have problems with, because they're amateur wrestlers, they're like, well, I wouldn't let that guy do that move to me. I'm a better wrestler.

I'd do this. And they're like, yeah, but your character, it doesn't fucking matter. People sitting out there don't know. Your character likes the ticket sales, so shut the fuck up and do it. Yeah. People out in the audience don't understand the technicalities of amateur wrestling and that you would never allow that move in real life. They don't know that, dumb shit. So a lot of times.

His whiskey goes great in my Mountain Dew. That's it. I mean, you get a guy like Kurt Angle, but Kurt Angle had a hard time adjusting. He eventually adjusted, but I don't know, it took a lot of drugs. Where then you get a guy like, this is a deep cut wrestling thing. You get a guy like a Brad Rangins, who was an Olympic wrestler and the most boring man in the ring I've ever fucking watched. He's like watching paint dry. Has no expression on his face.

His moves are very amateur, ground-based, boring. Boring as fuck. And he never went anywhere because Vern Gagne liked to push him because he's an Olympic guy. But it doesn't matter. No one cares. You're boring. Anyway. So Scott, though, knowing the moves makes him dangerous, we'll say. Put it that way. olympic guy but it doesn't matter no one cares you're boring anyway so um scott though knowing

the moves uh it makes him dangerous we'll say put it that way he said that when he's when they were kids they would watch tv and see some wrestling rick and scott detroit has a very rich wrestling background with the chic and uh you know the original chic and all that so big time wrestling up there they have that so they saw all that kind of shit, and Steiner said, quote, this is Scott, after watching it for two, three months and not knowing anything about professional wrestling, I said to my brother, we can beat those guys,

and that's where it started. My brother's like, all right, let's go. Really? That's what it was? They didn't know it was fake, so they were like, we could kick those guys' asses. They don't know. Look at that. Look at what he just let that guy do.

We would never let that guy do that. We'd move around like that. That's how a lot of them think. This is crazy. I kicked that guy's ass. He doesn't know about ticket sales yet. They don't know anything about that. So he said, Scott will say later on, I actually appreciated the booze more than I enjoyed the cheers.

That's like a Camacho thing. I tell my girlfriend to boo when we fuck because she knows it turns me on. Because they get harder. That's hilarious. It was a lot more fun and it just fit my personality. It was a lot easier for me to piss people off. Okay. Which is, being a heel is, you know, more fun.

Every wrestler says that. Of course, yeah. Nobody wants to go around and be a good guy. That's boring. Being a heel is fun. I mean, yeah. I guess there's longevity in it because you get paid better, I imagine. It depends on who you are.

I mean, the thing with it, you sell more merchandise, which is a big deal usually as a good guy, obviously. Who would you rather be, The Rock or Ric Flair? Well, if Ric Flair saved his money, you'd say who knows it could go either way but rick flair is a maniac so definitely the rock you know definitely the rock when it comes to that kind of shit wrestling anyway but you know he was a heel too for a while and he went in and out of that so you know just once your movie starts hard to be a heel anymore okay the kids are like oh it's the guy from the mummy it's difficult to be boo this man no he's a he's a superhero i can't boo him you can't it's you're done he's friends with vin diesel i love all those movies too i can't tell them apart but

he's friends with them his little brother vin diesel's was in that other movie. So Rick goes pro first. Rick's the older. Makes sense. Scott was still in school. Rick placed second, by the way, at the Big Ten Championships in 83 for the Wolverines and established the fastest pin record in the school's history at 15 seconds. Rick's time. Wow. Yeah. So these guys are pretty fucking badass, honestly. the fastest pin record in the school's history at 15 seconds. Rick's time.

So these guys are pretty fucking badass, honestly. His brother, Rick, ends up getting into wrestling through George the Animal Steel, who is a Detroit guy. He's from Detroit. And his whole career, after he was wrestling and before it and everything else, he was a school teacher as well. And a football coach. Yeah. So you're going to come into the class and George, Mr.

Steel is George, the animal. That's how different wrestling was up until the eighties when it was cable and national. Before that, he'd go wrestle in New York for three months at a time, come back. And the kids didn't know he went and wrestled there because that tv wasn't on in detroit so unless he wrestled in detroit they didn't see him

and then once he got it got famous he said one day he came in uh because he used to do the green tongue he came in and all the kids on the football team had a green tongue and stuck their tongue out and he was like all right yeah fine whatever shut the fuck up move on like the revolting vlog exactly that's exactly who he is that's i think that's who it was probably probably patterned after right yeah i would i would assume so but uh scott ends up training under dr jerry graham jr who uh jerry graham if i'm not mistaken is the guy who got vince mcmahon interested in vince wanted to be a Vince McMahon interested in Vince wanted to be a wrestler at first. He always wanted to be a wrestler. And his father told him, no, we robbed them blind. Are you stupid? You want to be on this side? Why would you take what someone gives you

when you can control the stack of money, dummy? And the houses are over here. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. Stupid here. Come here. Would you rather be in pain and poor or walking tall and pockets full of money? Which would you rather have, dummy? Would you literally like to be flying with just you on the plane? You want that? That's this side. That's this side. Or Southwest Boarding Group 7.

You pick. Because that's the option. Yeah. So. You can't wait for those little posts to be empty six times yeah yeah uh jerry graham dr jerry graham was a real flamboyant you know kind of guy he would go like he would drive down uh like in new york city when he was in in in new york he would drive down the street make sure to be seen in the middle of Times Square or something, and fucking with a big Cadillac convertible and use money to light his cigars and shit. So people go, oh, that's that wrestler.

That's the type of guy he was. And Vince idolized him. That's what he wanted to be like. Oh, money? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Absolutely. It was part of his gimmick.

That's how you draw money. You got to invest. It's the same thing as buying a fancy ring robe or you're investing in your character. That's what they do. You got to earn money to make money. You had to live the lifestyle to get people to come see you. It's like a boxer. It's the same thing.

That's where boxers got it from. I mean, literally, Ali saw fucking gorgeous George and went, oh, wow, look at all those people there. That's not even real. Holy shit. I actually punched somebody. Imagine if i talk like that and actually punch people yeah so um he ends up being trained under dr jerry graham apparently here scott does and uh also the original chic is there i don't know how much training he does but he's hanging around i can't see the original chic at that point point being like, come on, get in the ring. I'll show you some moves. If you saw this guy.

Yeah. Original Sheik is Sabu's uncle, if you know who Sabu is. Is that right? Absolutely. For real? For real uncle. Yeah. No, it's his actual uncle.

So he ends up getting, he breaks into the business here using his real name, Rex Steiner, and he is in the WWA, which is a dying. This is a tough thing. This is like getting into comedy. This is like us growing up and then getting into comedy. But in 1983, say, and you were like, let's say you're a teenager and you knew in a few years you wanted to be a wrestler, there is a territory that's thriving in every market in the country. So you could just go be a wrestler. It's super easy to break in. There's tons of places to work. You could get a job, especially if you're an all-American amateur wrestler who looks like Scott Steiner.

You get a job, no problem. But five years later, none of that shit exists anymore. Oh, boy. So it's almost like if you went to college for a certain thing, you went there, got your full degree, and once you got out, the business was shoe-cobbling. It was just fucking dead. Timing's everything.

So that's what happened to wrestlers at this point, guys that wanted to be wrestlers. If they tried to enter past about 83, there was only a couple places to start. All the territories were dead. Vince McMahon had kind of sucked them all up. So the WWE was a dying, pathetic territory by this point. It was one of these places where Dick the Bruiser ran it. by this point.

It was one of these places where Dick the Bruiser ran it and it was one of these places where when you look at their history, like one week or one month they're in like an arena, like a basketball arena that holds like 5,000 people and then that's not selling at all

and they're getting 700 people in a 5,000 seat arena. Then they end up going to like some bar disco where they have the wrestling at like five o'clock before the disco opens. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like they do that.

Like when you do comedy gigs at Club Rio back in the day at like in the light at five o'clock for eight people before it turns into a club and thousands of people showed up back in Phoenix. Remember those gigs? Yeah. Don't expect it you were like i got 20 and you think you're all excited about it so that's the type of thing they were doing and then it went from that to doing like a not even a ticketed like a free county fair show that's what they were running so this is the time scott steiner comes along and joins this promotion as it's dying in its dying fucking days and it was really really sad uh he ends up winning the wwa world heavyweight championship which is worth you know really not a lot a guy at the

concession stand could call you the champion of something it would mean about the same at this moment in time. So he loses the title here in May of 87, and then he ends up in a tag team with Jerry Graham Jr., and they win the WWA World Tag Team titles. This is like kids doing it in their living room at this point, though. Literally, I was reading a thing with the attendance numbers. It's like 280 people would show up. It's not worth doing this for. That's terrible.

So, yeah, he did all of that. He's got an early Flair story from this time. One thing consistent about Scott through his whole career, he hates Ric Flair. Really? Absolutely hates him and loves to talk shit about him. We'll talk about it publicly. On Nitro, he did it. really absolutely hates him and loves to talk shit about him we'll talk about it publicly he on nitro he did it but he hates him so here's a story from a few years ago that he told about his first first couple months in the business and encountering rick flair who at the

time is as big a star as there is it's hulk hogan and rick flair are the two guys so quote my first two months in the business was my first indication that Ric Flair was a piece of garbage. He showed me his dick. I broke in with Dick the Bruiser, which, by the way, sounds threatening. It does. Dick the Bruiser sounds like

he's going to lay a fucking on you. Going to lay a fucking on you that's going to make you walk funny for a month. You're right. He's going to bruise you up. Old Dick. Yeah. He said, I broke in with Dick the Bruiser and I was going to go down to the NWA for

a tryout. I told Dick and he said, as soon as you get there, you drop your bags in front of Ric Flair and you tell him to carry your bags and you tell him I said so. Huh? Don't do that. Don't do that. Dick the Bruiser can do that

because he's an old-timey tough guy wrestler and he's a different cat. A rookie can't do that. I said, okay, I'll do it. Dick's fucking with him, right? And he doesn't know it? Quote, I didn't know anything about ribs back then. All right.

There you go. Next line. Yeah, Dick's ribbing him. How would you not expect that, though? he doesn't know it uh quote i didn't know anything about ribs back then all right there you go next line yeah dick's ribbing him that's what this is how would you not expect that though because he's an amateur wrestler those guys are too serious they're not i don't they don't have that comedy gene that a wrestler has of like okay let's let's have some fun not even a comedy gene but uh let's have some fun gene a fuck around gene that's a slow burn joke, too, by Dick, because he's waiting by his phone, waiting for a phone call for the report of his joke. He sits. That's the thing.

He tells him that. Then he goes home and smiles and goes, that's going to be fun in a week. It's planting seeds. That's what these guys do. They're planting seeds everywhere. And then every once in a while, they come into harvest and you're like, hey, look at that. The corn's in. Hilarious. Oh, man. everywhere and then every once in a while they come into harvest and you're like hey look at that the corn's in hilarious oh man um on the way home i was riding with bulldog don kent and he said no you can't do that but dick the bruiser had no respect for him he said that's how he got

into the business carrying guys bags look at. Look at Bruno San Martino. He has zero respect for Flair. Ole Anderson once slapped David Flair and said, I've got more for your dad if he wants some. That happened in public at an autograph signing, like one of those wrestling weekends where everybody was like, oh, I haven't seen you in so long and hugging. oh i haven't seen you in so long and hugging and then ollie anderson at this point a broken down old man just slaps a fucking like 27 year old david flair in the face and says i got more for your old man if he wants it wow this this is what i okay this is funny i compare wrestling to comedians a lot and i think this is whyedians have the same animosity. They just don't go around hitting each other. It's the animosity of this without the balls to actually hit each other. That's who we are.

That's it. We'll see a guy go, oh, this cocksucker motherfucker. Hey, what's going on? No, how you been? Yeah, where you going? Oh, that's good. But some of them do have this because they'll and in the comedy condo of whatever shit town they're in this weekend they're gonna do something horrible because they know that their

friend is here next week they have the rib gene yeah but not that's the still a passive aggressive one they don't have the one to go pow i got i got more for your dad if he wants it too comics don't do that generally that's why they're comics because if we did that sort of thing we wouldn't have to be funny at all. We could just go around fucking dominating the world. We wouldn't have to be funny. We figured out a way around. You wouldn't slap Damon Wayans Jr.?

Pow! I got more for your dad if you want some. Huh? Why? What? Slap Kelly Carlin's ass? I'll dig your father up and roll him over if you don't like i love george carlin but still that's fine i love damon wayans too so who cares all will smith had to say was i got more for tony yeah i got more for tony i got more for little penny if he wants some too

I got more for little Penny if he wants some too. God damn it. So there you go. So that's what he said. He said he didn't care. I slapped him. I got that. Flair had so much heat with the guys he wrestled with.

He has zero respect. That's how he says. So Scott ends up going to Memphis, which if you started in the late 80s, you started in Memphis. That was the only real successful territory left. This is the end of dying days of Jim Crockett when he's about to turn into WCW. And that's also when Crockett was a big thing. It wasn't a little territory. You couldn't just break in. You couldn't just have some pictures and be like, I've wrestled a couple months with Dick the Bruiser, and they're going to put you on national television.

There was the WWF. There was WCW, NWA. And then there was Memphis. Portland was still out there, but it was dying. So Memphis was where you'd go. Hard times in Memphis. This is hard times, Ric Flair. This is Steve Austin talks about just eating nothing but potatoes for weeks at a time.

Jesus. And other people have said they saw you look in Steve Austin's door. He had like a garbage can full of potatoes and he'd just be peeling potatoes all the time. That's all he eats. Because that's all they could afford. Wow. It's the famous one where they were saying, hey, don't be steroids and one of the guys said steroids well you pay us we're not even on food so it's a famous line jim cornetto he says a lot of guys have repeated it though it's like

we're not even we're not even on food i don't know if it's apocryphal or what but it's the what it was like the guys were starving they drove huge distances for 25 dollars it's what it was. Like the guys were starving. They drove huge distances for $25. It's very comedian-esque here. Very comedian-esque. So, yeah, he's in a bunch of matches here. Let's see where he starts out. Oh, 87, late 87 he comes in as Scott Sanders at first, which is interesting. Why would you?

I don't know. I guess to not ruin his name while he jobs a little bit, because when you come in, you're going to job a little bit, because he loses to Black Bart here. Max Payne. Oh, my God. Brickhouse Brown was still around at that point, 1988. If you want to have some fun and hear a guy talk a lot of shit,

if you want to hear an old wrestler talk a lot of shit about other old wrestlers, look up a Brickhouse Brown shoot interview, because it's hilarious. Later in life interview. Oh my God, he's the most, he hates everybody. It's hilarious. He's an old black guy who hates everybody. Just hates them all.

That guy, he's a pussy phony fraud motherfucker. Fuck him. I'll kick his ass. Everybody. It's so fucking funny. The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly. I see that. The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything. if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything.

I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so, um... This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her?

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Follow Business Wars wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. So I see him losing a lot here. He's losing. Kurt Hennig comes in and beats him before he goes to WWE. Gary Young. Oh, there's a three-ring battle royal where he wins one of the rings. It's him, Jeff Jarrett in the other ring his dad owns the promotion so he's there he was real skinny at

this point and then robert yeah and then robert fuller who's the guy with the giant cock that everybody talks about oh everybody says he's got like uh like a like a fire hose penis. Really? Terrifying, yeah. A terrifyingly large penis, they all say. He's known for it. It's his thing. There's a few guys in the business where you're like, that guy's dick is scary, like Lenny Dykstra was afraid of Daryl Strawberry,

and it's Robert Fuller is one of them. Why is that the one? It always sticks with us. Is it penis envy? Is that what it is? With someone where it's this big from what i understand it's not even envy it's actually like whoa it's like if you not only fear it's like if you're playing basketball on a playground and some guy hits a couple of shots over you and whatever and you're like oh that motherfucker you're kind of pissed off and you

don't like him if you're guarding him and he just lifts off from the foul line and dunks you just go holy fuck and you high five him you don't get mad at that you just go wow holy shit that's crazy that's what this is this is dunking from the foul line you're just your cock so big you can't you're not even jealous of it you're just like you can't even imagine what that is it's just like watching a movie with a big explosion you're like wow that's something so during this time the steiners by the way um in their in their run at one point they're managed by missy hyatt who's another very interesting person to look up and figure out about yeah oh yeah and she's um does right now she's all put together with plastic surgery and it's really she's all patched up but she does all sorts of like you know she had a ton of like uh pay five

dollars a month to see my tits on my website type shit going on at that point in time like only fans before only fans yeah you know so um she did with shit with sunny actually like naked stuff was done yeah like the washed up ladies of wrestling type shit yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so um then rick ends up they've this is a trope they've done a lot where they pick somebody out of the crowd, you know what I mean, quote unquote. Like, oh, this lady's in the crowd and then she ends up, she's actually a wrestler and they do it all the time. That's how Luna Vachon got into the business. That's how a bunch of people got into the business. This time they pick out a fan here, quote unquote fan, who's already been in the business.

They call her Robin Green. She ends up turning into a woman who is Nancy Benoit. So that's how she gets into WCW here. That's how that ends up happening. The lady that he killed? Yeah, his wife, Chris Benoit's wife. Oh, my God. Yeah.

So, yeah, that's who this is. There's a lot of tie-ins with rick steiner and everybody we've ever done an episode about basically it's all tied together here um so they end up having a feud with uh him and him and his brother form a tag team when they go to wcw the steiner brothers and their gimmick is they're like amateur wrestlers. They have the college fight song music when they come out. They have singlets that they wear. They wear University of Michigan jackets, like Letterman jackets. Rick actually has headgear on, like wrestling headgear.

No shit. Comes to the ring in headgear. Yeah, he looks like an idiot. He comes in headgear and all that kind of shit. So they're both – they're total good guys, okay? But behind the scenes, they're also kind of bullies as well because they are – and as a team, no one is tougher than these two people together. They're pretty fucking tough guys.

Yeah, they were a formidable foe as a team there no one is tougher than these two people together they're pretty fucking tough guys yeah they were a formidable foe as as a team if you yeah if you combine them was pretty good yeah and they were popular you like very and but i mean like outside the ring too they're really big tough rough guys that nobody wants to fuck with from what i understand rob is tougher than scott and scott's known as a fucking psychopath so yeah And Rob's always known as the tougher one, everybody says. You mean Rick. Yeah, you mean Rick. So they also bully people. Here's an interview from Eric Bischoff where he talks about the Steiner brothers a bit when he first came in.

He says, quote, shortly after I joined WCW in 1991, it might have been my very first pay-per-view actually and i showed up everything was new to me i didn't know any of the talent everything was new and exciting and i was intimidated by most of it and at that pay-per-view we had to use that wrestling mat room as our dressing area i show up find a corner back away from everybody because i was intimidated just wanted to keep my head down keep my my job, and not upset anybody. He's an opening comic who just doesn't want to get kicked off the weekend. Just trying to be part of the show. Be in the background.

That's it. Try not to fuck up. Don't let anybody know I'm here. If they don't notice I'm here, they can't get rid of me. Right. He said, I'm in there in the corner dressing room getting ready, and I look over, and the Steiner brothers are torturing this referee. I mean torturing him.

Stretching him, bending him, squeezing him, breaking him until they got tired of it. Then they wrapped him up like a mummy in gaff tape and left him in the corner. Why? Like they're in high school. That's some shit in 10th grade that you do. Yeah. Give him a fucking swirly. But we're all adults getting paid money to be on television now.

This is our job now. Fuck. So Bischoff continues, I'm thinking to myself, this is going to be fun. I can't wait to work with these two guys. Yeah. Yeah, going to be great. He said later on, though, he said subsequently, I went on to become really good friends with Rick. Rick and I took a real and very special hunting trip. and very special what does that mean is that a brokeback

mountain situation real and very special hunting trip up to the yukon men don't take very special trips to the middle of the forest together unless it's romantic right yeah we're looking for coyotes but i found his hedgehog some shit like that jimmy you want to take a very special fishing trip with me at some point me and you it's going to be very real wait very what if it's very real and very special does that make it more attractive to you or do you think i'm going to have you up against a tree at some point is what that sounds like against i think i'm gonna be tied to it to say at some point you're at some point your face is going to be rubbing against oak bark you know what i mean and you know that right if somebody says

that grinding into it ponderosa flakes in my hair. We made a sawdust. No fucking shit. Oh my God. So they took a very, him and Rick took a very real and very special hunting trip to the Yukon, just south of the Arctic Circle.

We were up there for 10 days and two weeks, two separate trips. It was just amazing. I've had a lot of great experiences with Rick. Scott, I didn't hang out with so much personally. Scott was always a little different. It's kind of like hanging out with a hand grenade.

Eventually, it's going to go bad. That's Scott. Scott's a human hand grenade. You never know what's going to happen. At some point, he's going to be set off, and it's not good. It's going to happen at some point he's going to be set off and it's not good it's going to be ugly for everybody so they end up uh scott and rick are i mean immediately a force and you could tell their matches look different on tv they have a different pace there's a different uh level of explosive all their moves are explosive a lot of suplexes before that was a big thing now you see german suplexes everywhere guys are always suplexes before that was a big thing. Now you see German suplexes everywhere.

Guys are always suplexing each other around. But back then that was like a different type of thing. And it was exciting to watch just Scott throw somebody across the fucking ring was like, wow. People, I mean, even getting tossed into the ropes back and forth and then some like wild move in the interim. That's pretty cool to see. But just imposing your will and tossing a full-grown man who's giant also. That's incredible.

That's a 230-pound man. He just tossed like it's a two-year-old kid that he's throwing on the couch for fun. That's how they were. And they do athletic shit, too. They were very athletic big guys because they were young and they were good athletes.

And then Scott would do the Frankensteiner and they were very athletic big guys because they were young and they were good athletes and and then scott would do the frankensteiner and it would you know they were very very fucking exciting here you know they they became you know pretty everybody wanted to see a steiner brothers match you'd go oh wait the steiners are on here so he starts um he actually wins some awards from this time from the wrestling observer which is uh the dave melzer thing here he wins best wrestling maneuver in 89 and 90 with the frankensteiner no everybody loves it which five six years later hurricane run is a very common move that nobody gives two shits about but at the time for a guy his size to be doing it it was very impressive. Match of the year he wins as well with his brother Rick versus

Hiroshi Hase and Kintsuki Sasaki in Japan. They're very popular in Japan, these two. Any big, rough, tough, throw-you-around-the-ring American is popular over there. Or cowboys used to be

very popular because that's very american yeah any big giant cowboy could go over there and make a fortune because that was like oh look at that big bad american oh ridiculous yeah well then we all the japanese guys here were in a robe sneaking around behind you throwing salt at you so it's just what's the stereotype of what people think this is right big cowboy sneaky little salt thrower that's it those are the two countries had for each other broken wrestling is everything broken down to its you know to its core it's it's boiled down to its elements and we take it to like something so long ago like the kids today don't understand what that means no i even in the 80s it was like it was a stretch you know like i knew about world war ii because i

knew about it from school and stuff but it wasn't like i inherently knew oh the japanese attacked us and all that i didn't fucking know that it just lingered and then you just go japanese people must be sneaky. That's what you think. Because that's what every wrestling guy is. He's sneaky. Hilarious. And never hit a Samoan in the head because it won't work.

Never works. So he also takes the Tag Team of the Year award with his brother Rick from the Wrestling Observer. And Pro Wrestling Illustrated, he also wins match of the year versus Lex Luger and Sting at Super Brawl with his brother tag team of the year in 90 and 93 89 he wins most improved wrestler and in

1991 Pro Wrestling Illustrated ranked him number 6 of the top 500 singles wrestlers of the year number 6 there's a there's an interesting thing from this time where Jim Hurd takes over WCW. We've talked about this a few times. Jim Hurd ran like a Pizza Huts in St. Louis. And they put him in charge of the wrestling company for some reason.

So he had terrible ideas like the ding-dongs, the guys with the little bells all over them. The hunchbacks were his idea. The hunchbacks because you can't pin them. Get it? Because you can't put their shoulders on the mat. So things like that were his idea. He's an idiot who doesn't know anything about it. Turtles taken.

Ric Flair cutting his hair to that stupid haircut was his idea. It was his shit. He made Ric Flair cut his hair. The flat top mullet. Not the flat top mullet. Like the mushroom cut that he had. Oh, what? Like everybody in sixth grade, when we were in sixth grade, that haircut.

Rick Flair had that haircut in like 1990, 91. Oh, that's not good at all. No, he looked like an idiot. And he really did look like a moron. And that was Jim Hurd telling him he was old and out of date. Yeah. So he wanted Ric Flair to lose a title. And his idea was, well, let's just have Scott Steiner come in and just beat him.

And if Ric doesn't want to do it, just have Scott twist him into a pretzel and pin him and take the title. So that way, you know, that was like one of the ideas. So they were going to use Scott as a – they actually thought about Scott as like, oh, he could be the next big baby face singles champion. And then he just ends up being in the tag team. They like him in the tag team. But Scott's – it's weird because everybody likes Rick better,

but Scott is the guy who the fans are go oh shit when he gets in the ring because he's more explosive that sort of shit here so they're winning tag team titles all over the place they win the way it would work back then you'd win win it you have it for a few months you lose it you'd win it back you know they go back and forth so they do all this shit they win all these titles um either way they go to japan in 92 as well over there they're very popular they won the titles there from bam bam bigelow and vader awesome yeah in 92 vader was a fucking athlete in 92 he was still doing crazy shit so was bam bam that must have been fucking in japan too that was probably a killer match that was probably badass. Right until he died, he was still doing wild shit.

Yeah. I mean, back then, for a big guy, he could fucking move. Man, could he move. They loved him in Japan for that. He was a big star over there. So was Vader. A big, huge guy that could do a fucking moonsault is pretty impressive back then. Now, not a big deal.

Then a big deal. So Scott wins the World Television championship on october 17th in wcw in 92 then vacates the title because they're moving on they get into a contract dispute with old bill watts who doesn't want to pay him their money and they end up going to wwf at this point oh yeah now wwe Now, when they saw these two, the original idea was why don't we make Scott come in as a surprise entrance

in the Royal Rumble in 93? He'll win the event out of nowhere to be a big surprise, and then he'll go on to win the world title at WrestleMania IX. What do you say we do that?

Let's just, let's stick a rocket up Scott's ass and take him to the moon because they think he could be it because this is the downswing of Hulk Hogan, and they're like they need another big good guy. We need a hero. Yeah. We need a hero. As we played from Lex Luger, and he wasn't the one. So Vince didn't like it, though,

and also the Steiners wanted to be a tag team. That would have been pretty fucked up for Scott to come there with his brother and then be like, yeah, have fun in the opening matches. I'm going to be champ and stuff. Enjoy. When they came there together. Maybe we'll have a brothers match one day. Yeah, that'll be good.

We'll split up, and it'll be great. So they book them as the steiner brothers though they're the steiner brothers and uh they're they're a force their outfits at this point were horrific by the fucking unreal bad i mean dude scott had this big curly mullet it's a big mullet too it's a fucking ituminous, this mullet. It's a lot. He's got a big old mullet, and they have these singlets that they wear, like amateur singlets. But they have fucking bright colors and geometric shapes all over them. It looks like the background for a kid's show from the 90s.

There'd be a host standing in front of it talking. That's what it looks like they made tights out of it the host of some math show and they're going to teach you the the perimeter of a isosceles what the fuck was that kid show with mario canton back in the day though oh uh god damn what the fuck is that one it was that they have that in arizona i believe so i know it's a local new york thing i know but i don't know if it's yeah it probably was syndicated after a while yeah it's a fucking it's all like i think uh howard stern may have talked about that

that may be why i'm aware of it uh every week it was like 10 puerto rican kids on there. Where do you think they got those from? In Iowa? Steampipe Alley? Was it Steampipe? That's it. Steampipe Alley. No, he did not call that. You know he got, knowing him, I don't know him, but know him as a comedian, you know he was like, wouldn't it be hilarious if I. He got it called that. If the gayest man in comedy calls his kids show Steampipe Alley.

And no one will know. Because he's funny as he's funny nobody caught on they just let it happen from caucas new jersey yeah it was on channel nine channel nine wwar absolutely i remember the fun the fucking commercials who had like the brick walls and had like graffiti and squiggles and bright fucking purple and yellow and shit. Yeah. Steam pipe. All right. That makes sense. Mario. Mario Cantone, you crazy fuck.

You silly bastard. Anybody from the Northeast is going, fucking yes, Steam Pipe Alley. And we're like, yeah, what the hell is that? I just couldn't remember the name of it. Sorry, everybody. It's hilarious. I think that's the Wallace and Ladmo of the East Coast. Probably. Of the Northeast the northeast yeah because i never saw that in the city right mario canton probably i assume so yeah he's on a lot he's in a lot of shit acting wise he was a good actor and he was also on i love the 80s and i

love the 90s stuff yeah all over the place all the VH1 stuff he did, so good for him. The Steiners, though, they end up winning the world tag team titles here in 93. They beat Ted DiBiase and Erwin R. Scheister, of course, there for that. Beat the Jesus into them. Beat the Jesus right into them. Then they lost the titles two days later, which that's fun. They also beat the Quebecers at one point. Oh, no, they lost the titles to the Quebecers. Sorry.

Oh, that's who they lost it to? They lost them to them. So WrestleMania IX they were on. Wow. This is their big WrestleMania. This is one of the worst WrestleManias, probably the worst of all time. It's so long ago. It's 29 years ago now.

It's a single digit, for Christ's sake. Nine. Yeah. This is a huge pile of shit. It's a huge pile of shit. They're clearly gearing up for number 10. Well, number 10's in Madison Square Garden because they gear it down

because this is during the steroid trial so they don't have a big extravagant thing. They just do a Madison Square Garden one. And it's actually a good show. It's Brett and Owen. A lot of good stuff in 94. Or in WrestleMania 10. WrestleMania 9, shit show.

Outdoors at Caesar's Palace. Yeah. They constructed that whole thing. It's daylight for half the show. Outside in Vegas. Outside in Vegas in the daylight. There's no energy. The crowd's dead.

The matches are weird. It's a low point in their talent. Outdoor is shit. All the energy just dissipates. You can't do this. Unless you have a stadium with like 60,000 people, which that's a different story. But if you have this, it just doesn't work. It looks like shit.

And they have like it's a it's an ancient theme you know they have like all togas and guys come in on elephants and they come in you know carrying you on a on a fucking throne and all that shit it's all jesus yeah all that crap so uh wrestlemania 9 let's see here the dark matches tito santana beating papa shango second match tatanka with sean michaels against sean michaels and uh luna vachon Michaels against Shawn Michaels. And Luna Vachon is in this one, actually. Luna Vachon and Sherry are the two managers, which is pretty cool. Two badass women out there.

Then the third match, still light outside, no energy in the crowd. Steiner Brothers versus the Head Shrinkers. Remember them? Samu and Fatu. Samoan guys. Yeah, feels racist. Oh, they were.. Oh, they were the descendants of Afa and Sikh and all them. That was that family.

Exploitative shit. I like it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They did it themselves, though. They were exploiting themselves for it. They had their own promotion and shit where they were doing this. I mean, this was just what they did. So they beat them. They beat the Head Shrinkers in about 15 minutes. and shit where they were doing this. I mean, this was just what they did. So they beat them in,

they beat the Head Shrinkers in about 15 minutes, and it's a pretty boring match, I gotta be honest with you. It's pretty, everything in this show is boring. You can't, there's no oomph to it at all. It's just all flat.

There's no moment that shines, or moments up, Laurel. Well, there's a couple that shine in a bad way. We'll get to it here. Doink the clown beats crush right and I I know a lot of people have asked for a doink the clown episode Matt Bourne is who it is Matt Osborne and I would love to but honestly you can't find the old arrests for him like when he was really in his prime in the 80s all coked out and fucking up. You can't find them. They're either gone or they were also swept under the rug a lot.

So it's hard to find. It wouldn't really be. You have to get him to tell the story and do it in a candid way. He died like eight years ago. So that's going to be difficult. It's difficult. So that's going to be tough. Razor Ramon Scott Hall, another alumni here, beats Bob Backlund.

Jesus, he was still around at that moment. Holy crap. Here we go. Then the first main event. There's two main events, and it turns out to be three main events here. Money, Inc., Ted DiBiase, and Irwin R. Scheister versus the Mega Maniacs, Hulk Hogan and Brutus Beefcake, with Jimmy Hart in their corner.

This was Beefcake, had that mask on and everything, that weird plastic mask. Oh, really? This is the one where Hogan came there with the black eye. He showed up with a huge black eye that looked like someone hit him with a cinder block in the face. Certainly real? Oh, it was real. Yeah, it was real. It was a jet skiing accident. They were out jet skiing, and a jet ski ran right into his face.

He took a sea-doo to the face. Sea-doo to the grill piece, and then he came out there for WrestleMania looking like he got beat up in the parking lot. Well done, Florida, man. Florida through and through. Unbelievable. That's the most Florida thing ever. I got the biggest match of the year tomorrow, brother.

What should we do? Let's jet ski. All right. Sounds good. What do you do before any major thing, you jet ski, to clear your mind? That's like a Florida walk around the block. Was he racing somebody who fell off and tried to hit him? He fell off and then the thing circled around and he didn't see it whacked him in the fucking grill that's all pow yeah

they do circle while yeah and he claims it was this big dramatic thing that i don't really believe but he claims that he was unconscious and someone had to save him and all of his face was broken. Hulk always exaggerates. That's why he made so much money in wrestling. He had a black eye and had to be on TV. That's what happened. That's what happened. Lex Luger beats Mr. Perfect here.

Kurt Hennig and Lex Luger. The Undertaker, this is maybe the worst match in WrestleMania history. Top five here. Undertaker and Giant Gonzalez. Who? He was the guy that wore, he's about seven foot six. Yeah. Literally.

And he wore a suit that looked like muscles. It looked like if you skinned a person, like the muscles underneath, that was what the suit looked like. And it also had patches of fur all over it like he was a cave creature. He ran a bodies exhibit with fur attached to it. With fur attached to it. That's what he was. And he'd come out and he's seven foot six and he's all lumbering and it's terrible.

This guy, he's the guy from the Billy Crystal movie where he's got a giant. My giant, it's called. That's the guy. I have seen that. He's the giant. Why can't I see his face? You'll sleep better tonight if you don't see it. It's a terrifying face.

And then he ended up going to Argentina, crumbling into a wheelchair and dying shortly later on from being too tall. I think that was the official cause of death. Too tall. Mark it down. 4.28 p.m. Too tall. Mark it down. 428 p.m., too tall. He's dead. He died of Great Danism. Take him out of that chair and, I don't know, find a couple of coffins and put them back to back.

I don't know what to tell you. He won't fit in the coffin? Incinerate him and then he'll just be at the top of it. He's going to be a lot of ashes, though. Just fill it. Just fill it all up. This is the guy. He got to the United States and into sports

because Ted Turner signed him to a personal services contract because he thought either he'll play for the Hawks because he's so tall, even though he's not really a good basketball player, either he'll play for the Hawks or he could be in movies. He's a giant. We could use him in some movies. Whatever. I'll use him somewhere. So he'll play for the Hawks or he could be in movies. He's a giant. Like we could use him in some movies. Whatever. I'll use him somewhere. So he signed it. One way or another, I'm using that enormous body. That's it.

So he ended up in WCW and then Vince saw him and Vince can't turn down a genetic freak of nature. So he sees that and he's like, holy shit. Look at him. Oh boy. Take your shirt off. Oh, wait a second. No. Here. Put this outfit on that makes you look like you have muscles.

I don't like what I saw when you took your shirt off. For once, I didn't like what I see, and that's rare for me, honestly. I like it all. A bearded lady. Ah, look at you. There you go. That's what he is, right? Put the patches of fur on there. Yeah, there you go.

He's just a circus runner. He's a Barnum brother. Yeah, that's exactly a circus, circus runner. He's a Barnum brother. Yeah, that's exactly it. PT Barnum. That's it. He's PT Barnum, but more vicious somehow.

More gross. Yeah. PT Barnum who needs blowjobs. So, and he treats people like, like bears and elephants. Imagine if you put PT Barnum, PT Barnum literally on shitloads of steroids for 20 years. That's what you'd get.

30, 40, whatever, however long he's been doing it. So next up is Yokozuna and Bret Hart. Bret Hart is the champion. Yokozuna is the 500-pound, quote-unquote, Japanese man who's actually Samoan. Ozuna's the 500-pound, quote-unquote, Japanese man who's actually Samoan. He and his manager, Mr. Fuji, who's Hawaiian, who's from Hawaii, pretend to be Japanese people who hate America. This is the other part.

In 1993, do you remember a great feeling of hatred coming from Japan toward us? Do you remember that? No. I don't remember that. It feels like over 50 years that dissipates. They pretended like it was just strong and new and there was a big rivalry, which there wasn't. So Yokozuna beats Bret Hart to be champion, to become champion. And then in the most ridiculous turn of events in the history of WrestleMania,

because Vince thought maybe he didn't like the way business was going. He thought maybe it's just the Hulkster. Maybe I just need the Hulkster back on top and everything will be OK. So Yokozuna wins. He beats Bret Hart. And then fucking Mr. Fuji, the manager, gets on the mic and challenges Hulk Hogan to come out right now and and they'll beat you too you just won the belt so logically you're gonna go while my fat 500 pound guy is tired from the match i'd like another guy to come out and fight him again even though we don't have to do

this there's no logic here whatsoever there has to be logic to wrestling we're gonna continue defending this belt every five minutes with another match doesn't matter even though we don't have to so the real the reality logic of it is very stupid so hulk hogan comes out and um and beats yokozuna and fucking body you know slams him and leg drops him the whole deal and becomes champion and takes the belt. You got to be champion for seven minutes. It's the dumbest fucking thing ever. It's super dumb.

So that's WrestleMania 9. And it's god awful. It's fucking hilarious, honestly. What a joke. So they're there for a little bit. They're really kind of non-consequential after that, the Steiner brothers. I mean, they're winning tag belts and shit like that. But it's not.

That was so. Who cares if you're beating DiBiase in IRS? Who gives a shit? That's boring. IRS was a big son of a bitch, though. He was big, too. Yeah, no, Rotundo was a big guy. Also, he looked big in his dress shirt. Yeah.

The three-piece suit really makes you look gigantic. If you got a thick neck with a tie on you look even bigger so 1995 briefly they end up in ecw for a while which is a the strangest fit ever the signers are like the most mainstream guys there are and them going to wrestle and especially in 95 ecw which was like raw gritty thousand people in the bingo hall in fucking South Philly and shit. Like it's a totally different. Jumping off of rafters and shit. Yeah, yeah.

The summer of 95, I believe, was when they were having the barbed wire baseball bat matches with Ian and Axel Rotten and shit. Oh, yeah, dude. It was gross. They'd hit each other, get stuck in there and shit. Oh, my God. They'd get out. It's fucking disgusting.

Really, really. in there and shouldn't have to yank it out. It's fucking disgusting. Really, really. I watched one, some special about some kid that did those like hitting with the neon light. Yeah. Hit him and opened him up so bad he fucking almost bled out. Oh, it happens all the time.

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versus two cold Scorpio, Dean Malenko, and Cactus Jack, who's Nick Foley. Yeah, which is a pretty big goddamn, that's a lot here. They beat Scorpio and Malenko. They beat Scorpio and Chris Benoit the following night as Chris Benoit was still there. So, Jesus, the dinner theater in Kennett Square, Pennsylvania.

They won. Holy shit, man. I forgot how small some of these fucking venues were. So 1996, back in WCW, and here's where it gets fun. Okay? This is, oh, by the way, in May of 1995 in Bay County, Florida, he is arrested

for driving with a suspended license. Of course he is. So, yeah, he's apparently not a good driver as we'll talk about. An aggressive driver.

He drives like he wrestles, I think. Yeah. Might be the problem. So, they go back to WCW and this is after Monday Nitro started. started so this was when they

were looking for horses they needed to fill you know showtime here so they get the steiners in there and they're still tag team they're still they feel very outdated though by 95 they don't by 93 they felt out like their whole persona is outdated. Not the way they wrestle. Yeah, it's just the gimmick shelf life is going away. Yeah, you can't. That brightly colored geometric shapes was hot shit from like 90 to 92. Yeah. But then in like 94, you couldn't get more fucking lame than that.

That was as lame as you got. By then, everything was darker. What changed then? fucking lame than that like that was as lame as you got like by then everything was darker and what changed that it went from fucking millie vanillie to grunge i think from in that time period it's just that pop shit that just went to grunge right everything in all aspects of life everything went from it had to be the shiniest poppiest to it wasn't shit unless it was real you know what i mean whether it be fucking you know hip-hop and the same shit with with mute with you know grunge music and all that kind of shit it was had to be real man had to be just put your flannel on you know and you're either a gangster or a rocker either one

it doesn't you could be just depending we got a show tonight depending on how you buttoned your flannel in the 90s you could either be you know a gangbanger or kurt cobain depending on how you buttoned your flannel in the 90s, you could either be a gangbanger or Kurt Cobain, depending on how you buttoned it. That's all it was. Or where you tied it. Top button buttoned, you're a gangster. Straight thug, yeah. Fucking top two open, rest buttoned, look at you start a band. Do you play the bass is what you ask people if you see that?

people if you see that but by 95 they're still wearing the geometric shapes and the bright like the you know fuchsia color like these brightly colored singlets scott still has the fucking mullet man you couldn't have a mullet by 95 that shit was over sean michaels was the only one who could like pull that kind of weird shit off by the 90s and he still looked ridiculous and if you saw him at the grocery store you go look at that guy's hair what an idiot put in a wrestling ring it looked okay did achy breaky sink that fucking mullet i think it did the mullet was done before that though was it and maybe in in like mainstream i don't know it was for me anyway or for like probably yeah look when we were kids 91 you had to cut that mullet off that was it

by 91 it was yeah you better shave your shit and have some weird hair or something that's what we all have you judge a lot of fashion by north of the mason dixon that's the other thing i'm i was just saying i'm coming from a also in new york things like kind of there'd be fashions and then it would take you know five years to get inland that's what happens so i think in the middle of the country maybe down south mullets were still okay whereas here they were like whoa they hung around a while even those like oakley blades those fucking those things hung around a while those with the mullet yeah yeah you're right actually i remember going to arizona for summers and oh, boy, what's wrong with these people?

Guys wearing those with that hair on a ninja. On a bright green ninja motorcycle. Oh, boy. They did it for so long. I remember them on dirt bikes on the street in Phoenix wearing that. Seeing that a lot back then. A lot of dirt bike action. I'm seeing more and more of it more recently, too. It's yeah yeah well now they think it's funny it's like hey listen no

we we fought the mullet we fought it we beat it leave it dead we beat it back we beat it back dead thing off your head yeah this would be like fucking after world war ii the german people were like we should put garing in charge now like no we beat them back that's the point it's over with don't resurrect this shit once something's dead fucking leave it buried yeah especially when it's so ugly no one no one should have a mustache or a mullet i'm sorry they just shouldn't if you have a mustache or a mullet. I'm sorry. They just shouldn't. Just a mustache is awfully bizarre. I get that you think it's funny now, but there's nothing funny about looking like a pedophile, and that's what you look like. When we grew up, mustache equals pedophile, period. Yeah.

If you were under a certain age and you had a mustache, pedophile. Over a certain age, we got that that was the style in the 70s. You know what I mean? We understood that. And pornstache was a thing because there was like guys. But pornstache still is creepy. It's creepy. Yeah.

And you had to be like a Tom Selleck type to pull that off. You couldn't just be a regular guy who has a. And that's the other thing, too. You guys have to be careful. And that's the other thing, too. You guys have to be careful. The reason why beards became popular recently is because people figured out a way to, rather than look like a pussy with a weak chin, they figured out, if I grow this out, people might actually think I'm tough, as a matter of fact, even though I have a weak chin. Cover this bitch chin up.

Yeah. And that's what a lot of, not everybody, but that's what a lot of beards are there to cover up a weak chin. Because we had goatees for a long time and then they were like, no, no, the whole thing. Let's do that. And now we get to see which guys have weak beards. Weak beards. Have a weak beard and a weak chin? Fuck man. Not great.

Well, the worst look is mustache alone with a weak chin. Because it makes your chin look even weaker because your front lip sticks out more. So that's a bad. Just stop. Just stop. Just shave your fucking face. I say through all this hair. Save it through.

Your chin is fine, though. Yeah, I've got. You're not covering anything, I don't think. No, no, no. I'm covering laziness and fucking ingrown hairs. Yeah, ingrown hairs. That's an issue. That's true.

We all have here. So the Nitro era starts here, and immediately Rick and Scott are kind of the main tag team. It's them, Harlem Heat with Booker T and Stevie Ray. Those are the main ones. They win the titles from Stevie Ray and Booker T in July of 96. Then they lose them again like three days later. Then they win them from Scott Hall and Kevin Nash in October 97. They lose them back to them in 98.

They win them again, back and forth. So this is kind of the peak of their fame and everything. Nobody thinks that Scott's that much of a lunatic yet. They're considered kind of a good tag team and everybody's happy with them let's say grace now very commercial at this moment oh yeah yeah they're on monday nitro they're they are very commercial but they're starting to they need a reboot i remember watching this shit and going these guys look really farty like they need a they need something new outfits or some shit yeah he is arrested for speeding also at this point, which is funny.

They win the tag titles July 24th, 96. He gets arrested for speeding July 26th, 96. Yeah. Then July 27th, they lose the titles. Oh, no. So I don't know if that was in response to him being arrested. They made him drop the title or that was like a punishment or just to be going bad luck to get arrested that's you got to do reckless driving yeah you got to really be

an asshole and that's the other thing scott is not a friendly guy so i feel like that if you pull him over he's not going to be like sure here's my insurance right how's it going today out there like he's going to be like why are you breaking my balls huh what the fuck he's gonna put himself in handcuffs i feel like just based on his attitude probably yeah probably so this is when from 97 to early 98 in february 98 he turns on his brother and they become you know he they go their separate ways and be singles guys from then on. So this is when Scott completely metamorphosizes his look. He goes from having a mullet to within a year noticeably gaining 40 pounds of muscle. I'm talking, you saw him. It looks like all of his muscles look like they're surgically implanted.

They don't even look like he's on steroids. They look like somebody took fucking cantaloupes and put them in his body. It looks ridiculous. It looks ridiculous. And he insists, I'm not on steroids. You're like, are you? Scott. Scott.

Sir. That's a lot that's happening scott his fucking veins were insane it looked like he had snakes under his skin like they didn't even look like veins they look i don't even know it was just fucking if you're not on if you're not on steroids you've got to get to a doctor quick because you have worms dude there's yeah you have worms and snakes and eels and lizards and shit in there you got tapeworms under the surface of your skin man and they're making you bigger somehow which is weird for tapeworms but that's how he was he was so fucking jacked that you're just like what the fuck and he had he cut his hair dyed it bleach

bleach blonde had like the dark goatee like the black goatee with the fucking bleach blonde hair and good luck yeah and the and the sunglasses yeah and at that point he was trying to be cool like he had different outfits like he totally switched his shit up and made himself more like late 90s which he did look very late 90s i'll give him that here so he uh he starts there's a feud he has with buff bagwell really over who has the better physique oh for christ's sake wow uh that's pretty ridiculous um he uh he ended up uh like i said dumping his brother scott you know in storyline dumping his brother scott doing all this type of shit now he comes out and he's big papa pump he calls himself yeah scott steiner big papa pump uh jesus fucking christ later on is when he'll put

the chain thing on his head right like that goes under um a suit of armor that weird yeah yeah that shit yeah it looks like he's going jousting later but the thing is like when you see those guys in medieval times that that wear those things there's like dangle and wrinkles in it. It's so flat because he's so fucking big. Like you can drape it over his shoulders and there's no wrinkle in it. No, he's huge. He's a giant, giant, giant fucking man. He really is.

So Big Papa Pump, how did he figure this out? I would love to be there in the gym the day that he created that that's well let's let's find out what he how he did it let's let's give him it in their own words what do you say let's let him tell us how he got here uh let's do in their own words quote i knew i had to go in a totally different direction so i just totally flipped the switch in In amateur wrestling, you really didn't talk too much trash. Wrestling is a humbling experience. If you get too big, you'll get beat. So I had always had that mindset. But after a while, once I saw everything in the

pro wrestling business, the politics, I had a totally different mindset than when I broke in. I had a whole different attitude. It was more of a rage and that's what came out. This is when he just starts acting like a maniac. By the way, I found because of filings and court proceedings and all this shit, and because they were a publicly traded company, I have all of the

salaries for everybody in WCW for 96 through 2000. It's fucking amazing. How much did The Rock make? He was in WWF. Oh, this is WCW. This is WCW from that time period.

How much money were they paying? Let's see. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. He's the 11th highest paid guy in that four-year period as Scott Steiner. In front of him too hulk hogan goldberg bret hart randy savage sting these are giant names so if you're in that league yeah those are household names those guys uh kevin nash lex luger scott hall diamond dallas

page roddy piper scott steiner right behind sky steiner is booker t rick flair so you know yeah he's in the he's in the wrestling buddies oh god yeah super famous household names hogan over that period by the way just from wcw over a four-year period 13 million 171 thousand 42 dollars wow that's fucking wild. Goldberg made $8,900,000 during that period. Not bad. Not bad. Bret Hart made $6 million. He was only there for two of those years.

Yeah. Randy Savage, $6 million. Sting, about $6 million. Kevin Nash, about $6 million. Luger, almost $5 million. Fuck, man. Piper, $2.5 million. Scott Steiner, $2,371,285. almost five million fuck man piper piper two and a half scott scott steiner two million three hundred

seventy one thousand two hundred eighty five dollars not a bad payday for that over that four years no 96 156 grand 340 grand to 97 324 grand in 98 99 696 and then 853 000 and hell yeah big payday banking some shit on there not bad i saw buffs on here he his best year was 407 000 he did he did less well hacksaw jim duggins on there for 180 grand a year as well is that right hacksaw jim making fucking he made 210 grand in 97 when i didn't even forgot he even wrestled still i guess that's if you don't realize that he's still doing it and he's making that kind of money it's pretty good but that's peanuts for what that guy oh used to make oh yeah oh god what he's worth that guy's awesome but i mean back then he was an old nobody nobody wanted to seek tax on jim doug and fucking

wrestle in 97 yeah it was a beard and a two-by-four. Big deal. Big deal. So, yeah, the signer, though, he did all these. He got a $90,000 performance bonus for 98. He made, this is fucking funny, they have it into payroll, licensing, and merch. And merch, they get a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny fraction in WCW because they have guaranteed contracts, so it's different back then. So in 97, Scott made $329,964 on payroll, $10,676 in licensing.

I think that's like videotapes and shit like that, and $2 in merch. What? $2 in merch. And $2 in merch. What? $2 in merch. $98 he made $28 in merch. $99, $578 in merch.

And then finally $1,509 in $2,000 in merch. And he also got paid, I believe, for something to do with ready to rumble the shitty movie as well i guess that's pretty good money in merch because i don't think i ever saw one person wearing a scott steiner shirt no later on a little bit but yeah he doesn't the steiners didn't sell a lot what are you gonna put in 96 you're gonna put him with a mullet on a t-shirt everyone's gonna wear that no it's not happening. So November 28, 1998, everything seems to be going pretty well for him. He's Big Papa Pump now. He's all famous. Well, he gets arrested that day.

This is so fucking stupid. He's driving his Ford F-250 pickup. Hell, yeah. And he threatens a state department of transportation worker on the road and hit him with his car. He ran his truck into a DOT employee. Yeah, on the

road, which is not, you can't do that. It's double the tickets if you speed in those fucking things. Never mind if you hit a guy. Paul Casparine is the guy's name. He was directing traffic that day for the Georgia Department of Transportation. So poor bastard standing out on the fucking road, waving people by and stopping people. Yeah.

Oh, my God. So about 140 p.m., a white pickup with tinted windows, a Ford F-250 and chrome running boards pulls up. He said the driver had a black T-shirt with cutoff sleeves that, I mean, you could see his arms. He was like, holy shit, when he rolled down the window. Look at this guy's fucking arms. Anyway, this Casparine says to Scott Steiner, hey, this lane is closed. You can't go here. So Scott climbed out of the pickup.

Oh, boy. With his fucking giant arms, scary looking, and threatened him and told him, move out of the way. Like, you get the fuck out of the way. I'm driving here. Climbed out, though. That's terrifying. Then he gets back in the truck, and the guy says, it's closed, dude. I can't.

There's people there. He then says, move or I'll run you over. There's the threat. And there's a direct threat. He'll be charged with making terroristic threats as well from this. I'll run you over. There's the threat. And there's a direct threat. Yeah. He'll be charged with making terroristic threats as well from this. So then he pulls forward and fucking, and the guy says,

sir, the lane is closed. And he says, move over. I'll run you over. And he taps into Casperine with his truck. And he says, I said, it's closed.

And he said, I'll run you over again. And then does it a second time. Hits him again with the truck. So he's not seriously hurt or anything, but he's been, you know, he got hit with a truck twice for no reason. So, Jesus Christ. So he gets arrested for all this shit. And he gets taken in.

And they're going to let him plead guilty. Okay, that's the whole thing. This is his first time, like, offense with this type of shit. They're going to let him plead guilty. Okay, that's the whole thing. This is his first time like a fence with this type of shit. They're going to let him plead guilty, but what he says in court makes them pull back the guilty plea and said, no, we're not letting you plead guilty now. You're too much of an asshole.

He somehow pisses this judge off here, Judge C. Michael. He said that he's going to plead guilty to terroristic threats he told the judge that he doesn't believe he committed a crime okay i'll plead guilty even though i don't think i did anything wrong is what he said so he went okay well then never mind you don't have to plead guilty then he said he only pleaded guilty because he was concerned that a jury would convict him because of his public persona. That's what he told the judge. Okay, we're going to trial. He said, I didn't do anything.

I'll plead guilty, but I didn't do anything. And if I do get a trial, it'll be a sham anyway in your courtroom. Oh, for fuck's sake. Judges love it when you say shit, when you insinuate that their court is going to run a sham trial on them. They love when you say that stuff. That's cool. You're calling me a kangaroo court. Great.

Yeah. So they originally, the original thing was to put him on probation for five years and order him to pay restitution of $2,676. The judge was sentencing him as a first-time offender, which means that he wouldn't have a criminal record if he successfully completed probation. So the judge explains the charges, then questioned him. He said that not guilty of terroristic threats is what he said in the end. So they said, okay, then he can't plead guilty.

He said dumb shit. Pull it back out. Five years probation was being nice, man. That was being nice. You better shut your fucking mouth. Maximum sentence is 26 years in prison. Holy shit. This is worse than robbing a bank, what he did.

Wow. This is like terroristic threats on a state employee while doing their duty. This is like if you, they're basically treating it as if you ran into a cop that was doing traffic duty. It's treated the same way. And you're impeding public safety, too, because you're creating a, if you go down a lane that's closed, the people behind you are going to fucking follow you, and now you've got a fucking situation. Yeah. Who knows if there is road up there?

Yeah. There could be a missing chunk of blacktop that you fall in a pit. You don't know. There's a reason why there's a sign that says stop. Don't go here, dipshit. You're going to go down a closed lane and you have people following you. Whatever happens to you is going to happen to them. Oh, that's wild.

So he takes it out on that guy. So he gets back in court the next week and pleads guilty. They allow him to plead guilty, this time to felony aggravated assault and making terroristic threats. He's got to plead too. He's got to plead guilty. The sentencing is going to come later on and they're they're you know you're making him sweat a little bit now yeah so the judge comes in and scott says now they said you had anything to say for yourself and the lawyer said don't say

you didn't fucking do it in the courts of sham please if you say anything say can i blow you sir please well he said this quote I just apologize that this happened. Fine. Great. Shut the fuck up now. Great. There it is. So the judge said he's still going to sentence him under the state's first offender rules.

That means that, you know, it'll go away if he stays out of trouble at all. He is sentenced to, you, sir, may fuck off 10 days in the Cherokee County Jail over five weekends. He's going to get to do five weekends, not even 10 consecutive days. They said that. He also ordered him to pay $25,000 in fines rather than $2,600 in fines. God damn it. And also restitution and has to stay on probation now for seven years, not five. He fucked himself. Shut up. Shut seven years not five he fucked himself shut the

fuck up he can't shut the fuck up though that's the thing about him so um these are felonies he uh yeah all these felonies he also must perform 200 hours of community service as well oh my god fucking idiot the road's closed stupid sir the fucking road is closed bro you dummy that's all you have to do you know every one of us just goes fuck now the lane's really skinny and we're real careful so we don't hit a fucking barricade that's all you had to do all you had to do instead he you had to do. Instead, he was like, get out of the way. Huh? Get out of the way.

Well, I'm going to test that helmet, see if it works, pal. Why was he so mad that day? He's always, I don't know, maybe because he gained 40 pounds in six months. Way too fast, yeah. That'll make you angry, especially the things you have to do to fucking make that happen. All the chemicals you got to put in there. Now it's imbalanced. A little bit uh the judge tells him quote if you cannot complete your probation satisfactorily and you come back before this court the court at that time could adjudicate you guilty and

resentence you to serve up to 30 years in prison holy shit knock knock keep your shit clean motherfucker that's what that says to me oh my god that's so serious that is wild now that his lawyer though scott's lawyer said that he's a gentle man really he's a it's just the way he looks it's a he's a gentleman he's well educated he said quote i have seen a man very different from his public persona yeah yeah so he gets back into wcw and we'll talk about him fighting with diamond dallas page uh rick flair all sorts of people here there's an outside the lines espn documentary thing they used to have episodes all the time it is on steroids and wrestling oh fantastic because there was the steroid scandal with Vince McMahon in 93, 94. Once he got acquitted, nobody mentioned steroids and wrestling in the same sentence again for years.

Nobody. They just forgot all about it. The guys got huge again, and it got silly. Remember Triple H in 2000? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So they did.

Yeah, it's acquittal. You're right. So this show, the highlight of this show is Scott Steiner. I mean, they're showing him, they're showing him before they're showing him after, and then they're showing him claiming that he absolutely didn't do

steroids. And they're like, come on, dude. Like he's the, he's the example of like, come on. I mean, just use your eyes seriously

shut the fuck up man um so they said also uh outside the following the outside the line special about that wcw out of nowhere scheduled a surprise drug test before a taping of Thursday Thunder. And Scott Siner just no-showed the event. He claimed he had a back injury. That's why. But he just no-showed. That's pretty funny here. He was fucking so bulky, too.

Like, he couldn't move the same anymore. He looked cool and everything, but he fucking, he was, he couldn he was he walked like a bodybuilder he used to bounce around that ring and throw people and come off the road i mean he was a fucking athlete and then it just turned into really not an athlete at one point he carries scott norton all the way across the ring before giving him an atomic drop and scott norton's like 360 he's carrying him up in the air and the crowd is chanting steroids during the match because it was just on ESPN. And Bobby Heenan, who's my favorite person in the wrestling business of all time, says, quote, Wow, I've never heard a crowd so pumped up before.

This is 99-ish is when he starts wearing the weird chain thing on his head for some reason. I still don't know what he was thinking. Later on, he said, it just looked cool to me, so I figured I'd wear it. It does look out of place when he's wearing it because it's like nothing else matches it. No. It does look cool. If he put some armored pants on, some leg gear, maybe a codpiece, I'd go, okay, I get what he's going for. Some steel somewhere, or the gloves at least.

Even one, one glove. But there is zero medieval accoutrement except for this thing on his head. He's wearing Oakleys and a fucking chain thing on his head, and they just don't go together. We're mixing centuries here. It looks like metal chic. Exactly. He looks like the Sheik if the Sheik was in Terminator 2.

Yes. It's such a fucking weird thing. So February 7, 2000. And 2000 is really when WCW, the wheels are off the fucking wagon. It is just careening down the hill. Bad stuff. So this is when he does this Ric Flair promo. And they're not in a fucking,

there's no reason for him to say this. He's supposed to go out there and say something about whoever he's in a fucking feud with, talk for like a minute, and then go back. That's his mic time. You're on live television. They're giving you a hot mic. This is how long you have.

Okay. He instead says this. All right. And I quote, as you can see, when Big Papa Pump comes to town, all my hoochies come around. Okay. He's writing songs. My hoochies come around. Okay.

He's writing songs. But it's just a damn shame we had to leave L.A. and come to this cesspool called Tulsa. Well, I can't disagree with you there, so that's fine. But last night, that's typical heel shit, though. That's old wrestling 101. This dump of a town. Boo! That's what heels do. Just hating the place that everybody here lives yeah that's that's the

oldest trope in the in the book that's you know lame heat just yeah this place stinks you know even bret hart if you gave america an enema you'd stick the hose right here in pittsburgh that was his famous line which i disagree i think it would be Cleveland but that's just me I'd go with Tampa but you know I don't know if you've been to Tampa I'm going with Tampa so that's where that hose goes buddy so uh on fucking have flush it out he said but last night well i was what the hell is this kicking it in the booty i don't know what i last night when i was kicking it in the booty proving i was the daddy that i was the king of the night but i'm not one to brag and then he he's got kim with him who is kimberly page who is is Diamond Dallas Page's wife there.

And he says, Kim, why don't you tell him what it's like to be with the Purple Warrior? Yikes. Oh, my God. That's gross. Penis reference here. The Purple Warrior. So then somebody else, there's another person there. They say, Big Papa Pump, you're not just any man between the sheets

honey kim why don't you tell him what he's really like and kim says oh that's right big papa pump's not just any just he's our superman steiner says you're damn straight so this goes off this goes to all my freaks out there big papa pump is your hookup holla if you hear me so now he's just saying shit that he heard in rap songs even though he's a 40 year old man from michigan hoochies as your hookup like he's just listening to late 90s slang and he's right here's your hookup that's what the kids say how do i say i'm gonna fuck everybody how do i say i'm gonna to fuck everybody? How do I say I'm going to fuck everybody? He says, now, last week I was watching TV and I watched. By the way, before I say this quick, this is WCW's getting their asses pounded in the ratings by WWE. They need to say we're great and they suck is what they need.

Instead, he says, I was watching TV, talking about Nitro, and I watched a 53-year-old man come out here who has more loose skin than a Sharpay puppy come out here and say he's still the man. This is about Ric Flair. the nature boy come out here who's been the uh who's been the bitch end of all all the jokes because he's supposed to be the limousine riding jet flying son of a gun but i'm saying one time you should have took a cab and used that money to fix your crooked yellow teeth these are all things you don't say in wrestling promos so i had to ask myself if wcw was going to hire the nature boy number two why wouldn't they hire the nature boy the original nature boy buddy rogers no one at this point that was watching this has ever heard of buddy rogers unless they're like a wrestling historian

buddy rogers is who bruno san martino won the wwf title from in 1963 he's the original nature boy he was the guy who came up with that character everybody came after that they didn't want the nature boy they wanted rick flair that's no one no one knows that at this point who the fuck he is no one watching this show knows it anyway he said why didn't you hire the original nature boy buddy rogers now i know that buddy rogers is dead god rest soul. Well that's why they didn't hire him then, stupid. Probably, right? What a crazy thing to say. Why didn't they hire him?

Now I know he's dead. But Ric Flair, your career is dead. And I know as he lays six feet under, he's still styling and profiling because when you used your little brain and stole his name, there's one thing you couldn't steal and that was his class.

So that's what he's doing, is just calling him a thief, a rip-off. Calling him a thief, a rip-off, saying his career is dead, which if you're going to fight a guy, like if they were going to have a program, that's not the way you promote it. Your career's over and it's dead and so I'll beat you in two seconds

isn't the best way to say everyone should want want to see this it would have to be stick around you can't wait to see this amazing match it's just yeah i'm just gonna pummel this guy i'm just gonna pummel him it's super easy he gets worse so when you walked down that aisle last week i know i wasn't alone because the people at home all they did was grab the remote and change the channel to the wwf and watch stone cold don't say that don't advertise right a person you and your old friends got fired from here because you're a jealous old bastard which is true but still that's ridiculous so flat you don't advertise what's on the other channel so flair pretending that it's superior to what we're doing here and saying how much better it is right yeah i do it too he said so flair remember this in the in the this wrestling business there's never been

a bigger ass kissing ass kissing bitch sucking bastard in this business. Bitch suckin'. Bitch suckin'. That sounds good. You should be bitch suckin', right? Suck my bitch. Suck my bitch. Ass kissin' bitch suckin' bastard in the business, but also in life. You're the biggest ass kissin' backstabbin' bitch suckin' bastard, and you belong where

you're at in WCW because WCW sucks and so do you. You wrestle for them, sir. So change the channel and watch the other. What an asshole. Me, I'm just going to stay right here in the NWO for life. That's what he says because he's in the NWO. That is wild. Bitch sucker.

He said, you suck, one of our biggest, highest paid paid stars and that's fine because this place sucks too and this show sucks and when i'm home i switch and watch stone cold on the other channel excellent work sir excellent so wow jj dylan says later on he's the behind the scenes and office guy he used to be the manager of the four horsemen and all that he says it was a situation where we were doing nitro live scott steiner had an issue at the time with rick flair and he had set verbiage that he would use and then rick was supposed to come on right after him in the ring and be able to respond to what scott said which was going to further the story for where we were going for an upcoming event so he was supposed to come in call rick flair a punk and then rick flair is supposed to come out talk shit back and then they were going to end the segment with some drama and then they're going to have a

match at some point that's the point hit the same points that he just hit but he just let him down a dirt road with uh landmines in it well and he went twice as long as he was supposed to and on a live show they couldn't then then have Ric Flair come out. They just had to cut that. And then it just looked like Scott Steiner trashing him for five minutes, calling him an old bastard with crooked teeth who you switch the channel when he comes on. He's a bitch sucker. He's a bitch sucker. You bitch sucker.

So he said that Scott had a personal dislike for Ric Flair, but Scott Steiner went in the ring and totally went on a tirade about Ric Flair, but it was not storyline related. It was very, very personal, and it went on and it went on, and of course the show was timed out and you don't have a great amount of flexibility, and more importantly was Ric to go out there next and respond to what our understanding was

what Scott would say on live TV to further the storyline. Obviously I was upset, because how do you Scott would say on live TV to further the storyline. Obviously, I was upset because how do you adjust to that on live TV? And it was embarrassing for Rick. It was embarrassing for me because Scott went out there with no prior warning and just made what he said very, very personal. I called Scott on it, and he's high strung, and so, of course, he took exception and continued to prolong Flair backstage with me and said, your personal views.

And I said, your personal views with Rick are personal with you and him and live television when we have a storyline. That's not a place to carry on and air your personal opinions. So, yeah, that's how this all went on. So, yeah, that's how this all went on. So he said after that he had to he said Bill Bush was in charge of the company at the time. Bischoff was on hiatus. So Bill's first impulse was to fire Scott. Yeah. And then he had to deal with Brad Siegel. And the decision was to suspend Scott. I want to say two weeks without pay. I met a room at the WCW offices, which relocated from CNN Towers to the suburb of Atlanta. Met with him. Had to break the news that the decision was to suspend him without pay. I guess I didn't consider the possibility that he would get physical with me. He's a big guy, and I have never had to fight with anybody inside the business.

I've always handled it at a professional level. And in this case, he wasn't happy. So basically, he was even scaring him so he later said this is from the question you've been very critical of rick flair in the past what are your thoughts on his you know career and his whole thing he said quote this is talking about his hall of fame induction and everything. Quote, I thought it was a joke how many times he cried. Remember the end? Immediately. Pussy.

This guy's got fucking tears. What a bitch. What a bitch sucking old bastard. Wow. He said, remember that NWO skit where X-Pac was supposed to be Ric Flair and every time they asked him a question, tears would come down his face because he had a pump of water under his armpit they had a four horsemen sketch yeah where they all dressed up kevin nash was arn anderson so he had like a bald thing on and he was carrying a cooler and uh x-pac was rick flair so he had a blonde wig and he was just

saying woo and he had a a pump thing and he'd make water just shoot out of near his eyes would pour down his face just cry tammy fay like tammy fay so uh now that comes into play for as far as what rick flair was like behind closed doors backstage he was a cry baby he was a little wuss man and for him to do it during a match and then at the induction ceremony come on man are you kidding me that was the way rick flair was He was doing it because he's a mark, man. It was unbelievable. That's how he was in real life. Here's another story. Ric Flair thought his big four horsemen were going to come back again. So Kurt Henning was going to join the team and we were going to wrestle them at a pay-per-view in a cage. And it was going to be the four horsemen's triumphant

return. But Henning was going to return and join the NWO. When they told Ric Flair the finish, his eyes started welling up, and we had to leave the room because we started laughing. We were like, look at that little piece of garbage. He's freaking crying. I'm not the only one who has that view on Flair. If you talk to Bret Hart, he'll say the same thing about Ric Flair. Shawn Michaels and Triple H, they're all pieces of garbage man he thinks that's hurting him but

that that makes rick flair so much more endearing it makes him yeah it's it's less even if he's crying on purpose i don't care that if your dick's out all the time yeah you better be sad sometimes yeah that's a good point you can't be that happy and have your's out all the time, you better be sad sometimes. Yeah, that's a good point. You can't be that happy and have your dick out all the time. You just seem like the happy rapist. Otherwise, you seem like a sad guy. Maybe you just need some air. It's a different thing.

I cry so much. Just not, you know, on TV. Yeah, it's all appropriate, I think. I hope. Sometimes it's not. Flair did cry a lot. He was a big crier. Yeah, it's all appropriate, I think. Yeah. I hope. Sometimes it's not. Flair did cry a lot. He was a big crier. So June 7, 2000, everything's going swimmingly. Might as well get

married. There you go. Oh, yeah. There you go. He gets married to Krista Podsedli. Oh. There. Oof. They're going to have two kids together as well. And there you go neither of them are juniors though so good job he comes in another time and calls ddp white trash

okay all right now scott is pissed off because there is a big deal with tammy uh with sonny we've talked plenty about sonny. Apparently, Kimberly, Diamond Dallas Page's wife, not on TV, this is all behind the scenes, found a crack pipe behind, in the backstage area, and assumed it belonged to Sonny because

I mean, pretty good chance that if you find drug paraphernalia, you should probably ask her first if she's lost something i would say ask if her purse is a couple ounces light you a little you missing something something that you're gonna definitely need so she went and told management that oh my god i found this this belongs to tammy you know you need to fire her, because she was erratic and shit, so she was trying to get her fired. So

Sonny denied it and offered to take a test right then, which she did, and she passed, actually. She passed the test. So that all ended up happening. So when this Scott hears this and gets all pissed off, and basically yells at Kimberly until she leaves

the building yells at page's wife okay the next taping he cuts a fucking a promo on diamond dallas page out of nowhere calling him white trash yeah the whole time and he said you say you're the people's champion that's because you're white trash and so are all these goddamn people out here that's why they like you so much because you're all white trash and you're the white trash champion and all that kind of shit so he goes he comes back from the ring after saying all this shit you know saying bad things about his wife calling him white trash so dvp comes up and goes what the fuck bro like what are you doing why are you doing that that's fucked up why are you calling me

fucking names for no reason what's going on here so apparently that really pissed off scott can't tell him not to so page said he felt he had to he had to stand up to him you know he couldn't let him bully him so there's a lot of a lot of different versions of this, by the way. But the most consistent version is that Page, after their arguing, tried to attack Scott Steiner. He tried to take the first shot at him, which is smart if you've got a guy who's going to kick your ass and he's much bigger than you. Try to get him first. Yeah, don't let him calculate and control this match. Let's at least get him on his heels. So it's unknown.

We don't know whether he tried to punch him or he tried to get him in like a front face lock type situation. Either one. I would think neither of those would be a good approach to Scott Steiner at this moment. I think a balls kick is the best move. I think here's what I think. I think you go around, you find something super heavy, and you clock him over the fucking head with it. And then you go, don't talk about me or my fucking wife ever again. And then you leave the building and don't come back.

While he recovers from whatever you just did. Exactly. While he figures out how to pick his brains up. That's the only thing you do. Eventually, they get broken up they're you know being held back by other people steiner breaks free because he's a giant maniac yeah absolutely fucking goes nuts on ddp jumps on him starts mauling him ddp is not a he's not a thick guy he's just not he's he doesn't look like a big athletic workout guy he looks like it's like a thick guy. He's just not. He doesn't look like a big athletic workout guy.

He looks like a yoga guy. Back then, he just looked like a guy who hangs out at the bar. He didn't even look like a – that's why people liked him because he looked like a regular guy. He wore jeans in the ring. He just looked like a regular guy. So this, though, he starts pounding on him. Apparently, he went right for his eye and was trying to pluck his eyeball out that's what he was trying to do to page take his fucking eyes out which is the old wrestler

trick yeah that's the old wrestler trick when you fight a guy in a bar or something you pop his eye out fights over there you go why bother with anything more than that so he's trying to pop his eye out and apparently that uh you know they got pulled apart before his eyeball came loose, so that's good for old DDP there. Terry Taylor, who's the Red Rooster in the WWE there, he's behind the scenes there. And at one point on a Thunder, he told Scott Steiner that he's going to have to lose a match today. You're losing. He told Scott Steiner that he's going to have to lose a match today. You're losing.

So he blew up and threatened to kick Terry Taylor's ass and told him to get away from him and told him he was going to beat him up. So can't do that. So he gets suspended again. Gets him sent home with pay, though. He's suspended with pay. October 2000, for no reason whatsoever, he comes out on a Monday Nitro just walking a giant tiger. Where did he get a tiger? Not part of the gimmick, not part of any feud.

Nobody has a tiger. Just thought it was cool, that's all. He said that he felt like doing it, he said, what the hell? He saw a tiger at one point and thought it was neat. So he decided to ask for a tiger. And then they had to, over the course of one day, procure this man a tiger that wouldn't maul thousands of people that are within mauling range of him. That's going in our rider from now on. Tiger?

Got to have a tiger. We will walk out on stage with a tiger then the tiger will be taken away need a tiger and a tiger handler i carry it out you come get it and that's by the way he had a handler with him too they both had a leash on the tiger what the fuck imagine if that tiger freaked out from the pyro or the weird lights or something. Or all the fucking people. Jumps over the fucking railing and then there's 15,000 people in a tight area with a tiger loose. Think about the goddamn tragedy that could have taken place there. The fucking carnage that would have happened. Before they'd be able to get that tiger,

trank it, it would maul hundreds of people. People are missing limbs. Little kids with legs missing below the knee. There's a face left in that audience somewhere. It's going to look like a Civil War battlefield when it's done. You know it.

So he just walks out with a fucking tiger. And Tony Schiavone, who's the announcer, says, commentator, he says, we've got a tiger here. And guess what? The tiger doesn't want to be here. The tiger looked like it looked like, like, what the fuck am I doing here? Yeah, there was a pause. And then he said, only Scott Steiner. And then kept going because he's fucking insane.

No explanation, no nothing. Why he brought a tiger? He said that there had been an animal trainer at a WCW house show that had a tiger, and he saw it and thought it was pretty cool and thought it would make a cool entrance. was pretty cool and thought it would make a cool entrance i guess that the house show uh ray mysterio jr was almost eaten by the tiger when he i guess he's wearing zebra stripes as his outfit which is not a good combination around the tiger and then he squatted down to eye level with the height of the tiger and the tiger wanted to wanted to eat him because he's little too thought you were a baby zebra i fucking the vulnerable ones aren't you cute i'm gonna eat you here's another crazy promo let's just let's just give another one here

quote that's right mean gene i don't lay down for nobody whether i leave here a world champion tonight it don't matter because it's not going to change my focus on getting even with Goldberg for fractioning my face. He said fractioning, not fracturing, by the way. And at Fall Brawl, Goldberg, I'm going to get even with you for my face, and I'm going to prove to you that I'm the man with the largest arms in the world. I'm the genetic freak, and size does matter. That statement, Mean Gene, comes true whether I'm in the ring or out of the ring. that statement mean gene comes true whether I'm in the ring or out of the ring. See, when I have my freaks horizontal, they understand size,

they appreciate size, and they know that size does matter. Scott loves to fuck. He loves to, and they know they don't have to wait for the earth to rotate on a 47-degree axis so the stars can touch the sky and create an equinox so they can see the Big Dipper. Whoa. It is happening. Does any of that line up, any astronomy people? Does any of that line up? I probably not.

It feels like it's just another euphemism for Dick. It is a euphemism for Dick, but he's saying that this is, you can see the, oh, wow. No, no, no. All they got to do is call the big papa now he's big papa big papa pump but i mean i love no uh because i'm the man with the big dipper okay it's all dick all dick all the time and satisfaction's coming when i go when i go behind and do the bump and grind and it's only a matter of time before they call me big bad booty daddy

he's saying this on live television is happening what are you talking about sir sir you are 40 calm down my uncle said the same thing at thanksgiving but he was very drunk he was very drunk excuse scott and we took him into a room and he laid down after that. Didn't wake up until everybody left. It was wild. So Goldberg realized this. I only care about two things in this world, my freaks and my peaks. And then he flexes his arm.

Okay. My freaks and my peaks, baby. And when I beat your bald ass down at Fall Brawl and I'm about to put you in the Steiner recliner, I'm going to whisper in your ear, size does matter, bitch. What the fuck just happened on television? Pretty good. February 2001. This is going to score him a misdemeanor assault charge. This thing that goes on here.

He's in the ring. This is so fucking stupid. Winston-Salem, North Carolina. Mind you, on probation for aggravated assault that could land him in jail for 30 years. Wow, this fucking moron. A spokesman for WCW would later say that

there's a plan where the guy he's fighting, he's supposed to hurt the guy, and then an EMT is supposed to come in and help him. Not Scott, the guy that he hurt. Now, the EMT that they're using is a real EMT who's just coming in and acting like he's helping the guy, but that's the extent of it. Otherwise, he's a real EMT that they're just having. It's kind of like when they get the cops to arrest Stone Cold. Those are real cops. He's not really under arrest. That's how it works.

But Stone Cold's not allowed to cold cock those cops. That's not part of the deal. That's punching a police officer. He doesn't know he's not a wrestler. Oh, he knows what's going on, but he doesn't care. So the EMT comes in the ring to help this guy because it's supposed to make Scott look like such a badass that he beat this guy down so much he needs medical attention on the spot. And Scott fucking kicks the EMT. Kicked him.

Kicked him, shoved him out of the ring. Okay. He's not in on it, this guy. He just came in to go pretend to do this thing, and he gets beat up by some giant fucking guy. So when questioned about it, Scott says, I thought he was in on it. I thought he knew. And they're like, you know he's not a wrestler. You know who this is.

He's a fucking EMT. That's ridiculous. So the EMT, Randall D. Mankins, decided to press charges. And Scott is served with a warrant the next day he's arrested for it and uh there you go the deputies did say he was very very nice when they arrived to get him mankins oh i thought it was mankind no man see it's so easy to mix it up you couldn't find it yeah please by the way do not let dr goldberg treat me because i'm gonna whisper in his ear size doesn't matter bitch i can't help it so no dr goldberg

which i understand it might take it's gonna be hard we get it yeah this is wcw's fault i thought he was a wrestler i thought what you want from me? It happens. So somehow that ends up going away. I feel like WCW got this guy to drop the charges. They were like, listen, he's going to go to prison unless you drop these charges. So tell you what, one of those. This is real bad for us and him. Fuck, yeah.

So April 2001, WWF buys WCW. That was the big deal. On the last Nitro, Scott Steiner, who was the current WCW champion, heavyweight champion, loses it, drops the belt to Booker T that night on the last one. Then they're going to go. They don't know what they're going to do because he doesn't want to go to WWF. I'm unsure if he doesn't want to go there or they don't know what they're going to do because he doesn't want to go to WWF. I'm unsure if he doesn't want to go there or they don't want him. There's a thing with these guys at the end where they had contracts with AOL because AOL had bought Turner.

So they had contracts with AOL, all the WCW guys. Some of these guys had contracts that ran for another two, three years beyond when they got bought by WWF. Now they have a choice at that point. If WWF wanted these guys, they could null and void that contract and go work for WWF and make whatever they make. And create a new contract with them. Or they could sit on their asses for two years and collect all their fucking money from AOL.

So a lot of guys did that. A lot of guys said, why would I give up a million dollars guaranteed to maybe make 300 grand and actually have to work when I can sit here and rest? So that's what he did. He just kind of he doesn't go right away. He lets his contract expire. And he's talking about maybe going to Japan. He likes Japan.

He said, me and my brother enjoyed our stay in Japan. The people there treated us with respect, unlike the white trash here. So yeah, I might go back. There you go. Now, Bischoff talks about what could have been about Scott Steiner, if he wasn't a lunatic, essentially.

He says, the Steiner brothers, he said that they were more compelling as single stars, and he said it proved true toward the end of WCW when Scott emerged as a single star. I think Scott had the potential, had things turned out differently for WCW. I think Scott could have been the guy for a while. So this was when Eric Bischoff was trying to buy WCW rather than WWF. He said he could have been our guy.

He said he got that good. He found himself. His crazy nonsensical promos started becoming so entertaining that people would look forward to them. They didn't even make sense. They were awesome. Yeah, obviously. Guys in the back look forward to them.

When the guys who were working on the roster are anxiously awaiting one of their peers' performances on the mic, you know it's probably pretty good scott got to that point but you're right we should have probably pulled the trigger on splitting them sooner than later it would have been more valuable for both of them and the company so there you go now he's kind of in limbo not really anywhere um for the first time in a long time so what the fuck is he going to do now? He's just sitting there in Michigan probably,

or probably Florida. I would assume. Yeah. Sitting in Florida, being blonde and huge. He doesn't know what to do. I mean, he thinks about,

he asks his friends, nobody knows. He has his brother, nobody knows. So he turns to the one place that he doesn't usually turn, but he feels like it's his last resort. Desperation. Desperation. He puts his hands together and he just prays.

And he said, God, give me guidance. Tell me, where should I be? At that moment, the clouds part, the harps play, the angels sing. And there before him is, of course, God. And he says... How is it you've come to arrive here? What the hell is wrong with you? Honestly, bro, like, this is... I didn't, I don't make that what you've done to yourself.

I've, I gave you gifts, okay? I did. You are a pretty good athlete and everything. This here, I don't do that. This is, this is crazy. This is aftermarket, all this. I don't know. This is like putting an exhaust pipe on like a Honda Accord.

You're like, why would you do that, man? It's like it's a Honda Accord. You know what I mean? You don't just put a big. That's what you're doing now. This is ridiculous. I'm sorry. I'm upset with you, number one.

Your mullet was flowing. I did give you that. So I would like you to, if you could bring back the flowing mullet that I have wanted you to achieve since a young age and, um, lose about 80 pounds and keep calling people white trash, because I'm telling you now I, I tried to get the message out, but they don't listen. You're right. You're right, man. Listen, man, when you're right, you're right. You know what I mean? And that's, it's you're correct. and you live in florida so it's hard to avoid so um i will work on destroying florida uh wiping it from the earth but so it doesn't look bad i have to do it like one hurricane at a time it's very

slow it's a slow process man so we'll try though oh god i'm very busy i don't know why i spent so much time with you i have to go now poof in a in a cloud and harps and everything else, Scott's gone. And Scott just takes it as a reassurance that he's on the right path. He's really doing it. He said, God told me not to do any of the things I'm doing, but the fact that he paid attention to me means that I'm important. It's everything. So late 2002, he goes into WWE, signs a three-year contract with them, and I don't care about any of this era fucking WWE.

I really just don't. To me, it's bad. I don't like it. It's when it got cheesy. Everybody's talking about his steroid use, and he's asked to undergo a steroid test and famously said that he'll do it as long as him and Triple H go in a limo together to take one together. He goes, if he takes one, I'll take one with him. Funny, no one ended up taking one. Why wouldn't Triple H go, I wonder?

Triple H was ridiculous. Like, Steiner was always a big, muscular guy, but he just got, like, ridiculous. Like, Triple H was a little thin guy. Like, look at him in, like, 95. He's a big muscular guy, but he just got ridiculous. Triple H was a little thin guy. Look at him in 95. He's a little thin guy. And then he's fucking jacked with his huge, I don't even know what these muscles are that go like. The fucking wings. Go from your shoulder.

Yeah, what are those? They're huge. I don't know what those wings are. They're called steroids in your body. Because that's the only people that have those, our steroid users. Our body shouldn't have that muscle. What would it protect? No.

That's what I mean. That protects the steroid organs. It's all it is. It covers the back part of your ribs and that's it. It's like your oyster. It's you. It's so stupid. He, quote, wins the Wrestling Observer Award for worst worked match of the year in 2003.

Worst. Worst versus Triple H at Royal Rumble. Now, he ends up leaving WWE in 2004, and here's his thoughts on it. Quote, yeah, when I left WWE, I had surgery on my foot. I had drop foot. What the fuck is drop foot? Oh, that's when you drag that thing where my foot was totally paralyzed. OK, I had a tendon transfer and got nine screws in my foot.

They broke my foot, took a bone graft for my hip and put it in my foot and put a plate in there. So now my foot is not 100 percent, but it works. So I can wrestle a lot better than I did. So now my foot is not 100%, but it works so I can wrestle a lot better than I did. They said, you know, he said he was then asked, were you in constant pain the whole time you were there? And he said, that's why I really didn't care a whole lot up there. When your mind is concentrating on pain 24 hours a day, which I was, I'd like anybody to try and wrestle with one foot. If I moved my foot, it would just flop uncontrollably i had total paralysis down there well maybe that's why you have the worst match yeah that year because you have one foot and but then again kerry von eric only had literally one fucking foot the other one

wasn't even a real foot for fuck's sake and he was out there doing great boot on his leg that's pretty impressive so he said and it causes pain up your legs and into your hips it was hard i was actually going to retire i didn't want to go up to wwe but they offered me more money than i was asking for so i took it thinking that they would want to do business shoot they paid bill goldberg more than they paid me just to bury him too it made zero sense whatsoever he was literally a one-legged man in an ass kicking contest that's right no wonder why he's the worst at it that year fascinating so he undergoes foot surgery in 2004 getting all this screws and all that kind of shit he had a he's in a cast for eight months

fuck he does some indie work after that wrestles with his brother Rick a little bit, does all of that shit. December 2005, he's involved in an incident that we've talked about not once but twice. Both the other people in it have episodes as well. This is when Scott,

Lex Luger, and Buff Bagwell were removed from a flight that was going from Minneapolis to Winnipeg. Remember this? Yeah. The three of them for all causing a disturbance on the plane. He loves to do shit. Some people do shit that's, like, easy to hide or whatever.

He's like, I'm going to, like, I'm going to do, okay, bumping a Georgia transportation department worker with your truck is the lamest way to get 30 years in prison on the face of the earth you know what i'm saying he takes the smallest offense and makes it the most punishable by the dumb time he chooses to do it yeah planes on the highway in the ring on camera where everyone can see it he's not very smart this is 2004 five five yeah it's far too fresh at this far you can't do this shit yeah so they were they end up being detained for several hours finally steiner and bagwell are released and luger ended up being held without bail because he had drugs on him and all sorts of other shit 2006 he goes to tna and i have zero interest in TNA shit. Sorry, wrestling people that like TNA.

I can't even, when I look it up, I get fucking glossed over. I just hate it. It's so boring. June 3rd, 2007, during a show in San Juan, Puerto Rico, he is teamed up with Robert Roode, who is Rick's kid, and they're fighting Jeff Jarrett and Apollo.

During the match, Apollo kicks Steiner in the throat, and Steiner finishes the match, but once he gets backstage, he tells some of the doctors that he feels some kind of bleeding in the back of his throat. They told him he was fine, so he went back to his room and tried to eat some ice cream to make his throat feel better, but he couldn't get it down his throat because it was all swollen. So he was just in pain.

Ice cream? That shit's liquid. Yeah, still couldn't get it down. So then he started getting shortness of breath, and he started coughing up blood. So he called an ambulance. They take him in, and yeah, he's all fucked up. He has a torn trachea.

Oh, my God. The rupture extended to his chest. And they told him they thought he might die at that moment in time. So he was trying to get out of Puerto Rico. He said that a friend of his owned a private jet and he was going to fly him back to the States and all this shit. But the doctor said, you're going to fucking die if you leave the hospital, stupid. Oh, my God. You can't do that.

Internal bleeding, not good so um yeah they said if your lung would have collapsed they said later on when they found out what was wrong with him so um he was put in a medically induced coma yeah taken to the icu and put on a ventilator as they cut into him and uh sewed up his trachea he woke up two days later had some swelling and shit like that. So he couldn't fly right away, they told him. Because of all the work he had. So he takes a cruise ship back to the U.S. Wow.

I just picture at some point some fucking sad middling comedian had to fucking go up there. For a convalescing hurting fucking scott steiner and make jokes and hope he didn't get beat up afterwards and hope he doesn't know well the good news is he's not gonna laugh too hard to to tear his uh larynx again no he's not gonna do any of that shit he said that the uh he had gratitude toward the doctors in puerto rico and all that kind of shit within a, he was wrestling again. He said, I think ever since I had the accident in Puerto Rico, there was so much trauma to my body,

I haven't been able to really get as lean as I'd like. But it's starting to come around. This is what he said 10 years later. He said, there was just so much swelling, it was hard to come back from. And there's still a little bit of pain. My muscle back there doesn't work entirely correctly because my lat was sliced in half. Other than that, I feel pretty good. So, yeah, he said he didn't realize the problem until later on in the night.

He said, I got kicked pretty hard in the throat, but I finished the match. I felt like there was bleeding back there, but the EMTs in the building said nothing was wrong. I actually went back to my hotel. I thought it was just swelled up, so I tried to eat some ice cream to bring the swelling down. And yeah, that's what he said. Started spitting up blood. Rushed him to the hospital. He said, I've been in jail before.

And it was like the gates of the jail at the hospital. There were 20 foot high steel gates and there were armed guards outside the hospital. Jesus. The fuck? They opened the door, which creaked, and then they slammed it shut. I walked in there, and there was literally people lined up, bleeding, screaming down the corridors. Nobody was speaking English, and it was kind of freaky. Sounds like a hospital.

That's a hospital. Sounds like Phoenix, any hospital in Phoenix at any time. Sounds like county hospitals. Yeah, everywhere you go. I was actually at the same hospital where Bruiser Brody died. Oh, dude. Yeah. So I was actually at the same hospital where Bruiser Brody died. Oh, dude. Yeah. So I was kind of freaked out.

I called a couple of my buddies because I wanted to get out of there. I came in and they took some scans and made me drink some stuff to see what the damage was. That was brutal trying to drink that stuff. They finally found that I did have a torn trachea. The bad part about it was it was torn in my chest. They told me I had five hours to live. Wow. The air that was supposed to be going into my lungs was now going into my skin.

That turns poisonous and then you die. I don't know the medical truth behind that. It sounds logical, I guess. Judging by his review of what they did to his foot, he's not real good with medical stuff. I don't think yeah i don't think he took the medical program in michigan i'm just gonna say here i don't know about the air doesn't go into your lungs but goes into your skin you'd die quicker than five hours if the air wasn't going into your lungs that's where the sacks are that take the oxygen and the shit to

your brain and make you be able to do things heart pumping all that kind of stuff if how dislocated is his fucking is his throat that it's plugged into his skin now fuck his trachea goes far it's got a deep-rooted trachea it goes all the way to his asshole so what the fuck he said that um wow um they told me at five hours of live live, blah, blah, blah. I didn't really want to believe them. Well, yeah. My buddy owns a private jet and he was going to fly it down. They kind of sensed that I wanted to get out of there. Thank God it didn't happen because my lung would have collapsed and they couldn't have saved me because my trachea was torn. They put me on some sedatives and kind of calmed me down. I was still fighting it and trying to get out of there because I didn't

want to have surgery in Puerto Rico. Finally, a Puerto Rican doctor came in and calmed me down a little bit, but he still sensed I wanted to leave, so he put me under. The next time I woke up, I had been in an induced coma for two days because the pain would have been so bad. I felt like I was choking. I felt like I was going to drown because I couldn't get any air. They pulled the ventilator out of my throat, and I woke up. They told me they cut through my lat, basically split my ribs in half, and then cut through my lung and sewed up my trachea. Jesus.

They put a tube in my lung to drain for two weeks. I just swelled up. I looked brutal, like a 300-pound fat guy. It was the most swelling I've ever experienced. I still couldn't fly, so I had to take a cruise ship home. And when I went to get on the cruise ship and no cruise ship, a guy jumped off and committed suicide. So the FBI boarded the ship and had to circle it for like 17 hours. So I had to wait an extra day in Puerto Rico. Uh, got on a cruise ship. It took me another week to get home. I took my tour bus up to where I live and tried to recover.

Jesus Christ, that's a mess. So they said, does it make you not want to go to Puerto Rico? And he said, oh, no, the Puerto Rican people and the doctors were great. The nurses were fantastic. Other than the language barrier, it was fine. He said, here's one funny story. I told you that I swelled up real bad, and my testicles swelled up really bad. Everything's about his dick.

Everything's about my dick. I literally had to carry them in my hand to go to the bathroom. That's swollen. Yeah. If you're afraid the skin's going to fucking pull and break, that's a problem. Some of the nurses weren't so easy to look at. Oh, are you kidding me? Well, one day, one of the most beautiful nurses I have ever seen walked in.

I got up from my wheelchair and turned around and she was beautiful. I dropped my drawers and said, quote, are my testicles supposed to be this big? She ran out of the room and I never saw her again. Yeah. The first thing you say to her is, at my balls are they this big yeah holy fucking shit man it's kind of an assault that i don't know if it's an assault but it's certainly fucking scary holy fuck that yeah that's fucking wild they talk about the wwe um he said do you think it was as successful as it could have been? You're run there.

He said, well, if you look back, everyone from WCW got treated like garbage from Goldberg to Kevin Nash to Scott Hall. You have to remember, you were there. You were there. We beat WWE for 82 weeks. And it's 83, I think. And Vince McMahon obviously took that personally. So he wanted to bring everyone in that was on top in WCW and bury them. Kevin Nash is supposed to be the best friend of Triple H,

but he got the same thing. He won the first title match against Triple H by DQ, then lost the second one. I can't take that really personally, because Triple H treated supposedly his best friend the same way. I'll tell you right now, people up there are miserable. Both times I went up there, it was the most screwed up place I've ever been. That's what he says. So he wants you

to feel bad for him. He got kicked in the throat. Nurses won't look at his balls. Poor me. I went up there. They screwed me up. My lats cut in half. I can't get in down with the hoochies as much as I would like to. You know how it is. Yeah. You feel bad for him. You almost feel terrible for him, but not as bad as you feel for Scott Steiner, account manager at Master Electronics in New York City. Scott Steiner, executive vice president and managing director at Dent Sue in New York City.

I don't know. Scott Steiner, Assistant Superintendent, Kinder Morgan Argo Terminal, Greater Chicago Area. Scott Steiner, Marketing and Advertising Executive, New York City. Scott Steiner, Safety Manager at AutoZone Distribution Center, Hazleton, Pennsylvania. Safety Manager at AutoZone Distribution Center, Hazleton, Pennsylvania. Scott Steiner, President and Chief Executive Officer at Phoebe Putney Health System in Albany, Georgia. And Scott Rechsteiner. What?

Accounting Professional, Millbrae, California. Unbelievable. Spelled the same in everything. So they talk about that was screwed up up there he says was it worse than wcw was screwed up well up there and scott says oh my god it's not even close you got triple h who's sleeping with the boss's daughter he's married to stephanie she thinks she's the greatest and he's the greatest he's in the production meetings and in the booking meetings you mark my words he will break r words. He will break Ric Flair's record for world championships because they're both cut from the same mold. They're both marks for the belt. It will happen. And it's bull. I think Dave Meltzer wrote that

every time Triple H is champion, ratings go down, pay-per-view buys go down. It's a fact. But that's what happens when you're sleeping with the boss's daughter. And that's the one thing that was worse than going up there the second time. She was involved. And the only reason she's involved is because she was part of the Lucky Sperm Club. That's her only qualification. Oh, my God. I mean, and she's been around the business since she was two.

I mean, that was Vince's only qualification. Why was she there, James? Because of the Lucky Sperm Club. Yeah, that's true. Actually, Vince, his dad made Vince fucking work. Vince had to go to Cape Cod or something and make some terrible event where no one came. He had to make that a success before his dad would let him promote other shit. He had to prove himself.

He says, then the interviewer tells Scott that he's a big Scott Steiner fan. And Scott's response is this quote. Well, I guess if you like to look at gay magazines that he's posed in and watch him dance around in chaps like one of the village people or a Chippendale. If you're a fan, more power to you, baby. Personally, I think he's a freaking homosexual. What does that mean? I don't know. Well, you want to you want to not know what the fuck he means a little more yeah in tna he cuts a promo about a match he's gonna do it's a three-way

match uh with i think it's supposed to be i can't remember who it's supposed to be i think it's samoa joe and kurt angle i know is in it either, it's a three-way match and he comes out and says this. This is fucking wild. He's got little Petey pump Petey Williams next to him here. He says, you know they say all men are created equal, but you know his dick's going to come up at some point when he starts like this. But I scared a nurse away with the size of my balls he says but you look at me and you look at samoa joe and you can see that statement is not true

see normally if you go one-on-one with another wrestler you got a 50 50 chance of winning but i'm a genetic freak i'm not normal so you got a 25 at best to beat me then and then you add in kurt angle into mix, the chances of winning go drastically down. See the three-way at sacrifice, you got 33 and a third chance of winning, but I got a 66 and two-thirds chance of winning because Kurt Angle knows he can't beat me and he's not even going to try. So Samoa Joe, you take your 33 and a third chance minus my 25 chance and you got an eight and a third chance of winning sacrifice what okay we need mathematicians we need medical experts we need astrologers we need so many experts to go over his statements here. But then you take my 75% chance of winning.

I thought it was 60. Okay. He said, and then you add 66 and two-thirds percent, and I got a 141 and two-thirds chance of winning in sacrifice. See, Samoa Joe, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you with sacrifice. It's not bad so it's a good promo but it really it builds it and tells you how he's gonna win but holy shit the math is crazy

that is a fucking why my eyes are spinning that is crazy shit february 2009 um he gets a a ticket for going 20 miles an hour over the speed limit that's all i got on him there february 2010 tna releases him he does some indie shit he beats brutus beefcake to become the canadian wrestling international's first heavyweight champion wow uh wrestles a bit in europe around uh he becomes the dutch pro wrestling heavyweight champion he pounded the swiss miss girl in the submission took her hot chocolate and now he's the champion he took her wooden shoes and he left master with the saint polly girl yep that's it he grabbed her clogs and he took off so he did that uh he goes to um the puerto rican promotion the wwc he's there for a

while um none of that matters 2011 he's back in tna okay back in tna and uh people are asking him are you bitter about everything that's gone on and he says quote i have nothing to be bitter about i've made a lot of money more importantly i've saved a lot of money. More importantly, I've saved a lot of money. I'm not bitter. I love this business and that's why I'm still in it. I'm just telling you the way it is, man. I've seen it with my own eyes. There's no way I could be jealous because there's no way I would want their careers. For one thing, I couldn't be Triple H because there's no way I could have had sex with China. And he was doing that before she even got face reconstruction. There have been, there has only been two people in the history of the Howard Stern show where And he was doing that before she even got face reconstruction. There have been, there has only been two people in the history of the Howard Stern show where they had them go to the bathroom to make sure they were women.

Chyna and Nicole Bass. And she was on the show after the face reconstruction. Why would he do that? Good God. Look at Triple H's career before he got started. Having sex with the boss's daughter and all. He lost to the Ultimate Warrior in 30 seconds. He was losing to guys like Alex Wright and WCW. He lost to one of the Godwins in a pig slot match. And then all of a sudden he's having sex with the boss's daughter and he's the

toughest guy in the world. I'm not the only guy who thinks it. It's no secret what Kurt Angle thought of Triple H and Shawn Michaels. Here's one story I got from Kurt. Triple H was trying to block Kurt Angle from winning the world title. He said in a meeting, I think Kurt Angle's too small. And Jerry Briscoe stood up and said, well, what do you think would happen if you guys fought for real? And Triple H sat down and shut his mouth and they ran with it. Yeah, everybody knows Kurt Angle could rip people in half. There's not a surprise there. He said, Sean Michaels is one of those wisecracking guys who would say some smart comment to you, but then if you face him, he would run and cry somewhere. That's exactly what happened one time when he was cutting down the Harris brothers.

I think it was Don Harris. Finally, he had enough, waited until Sean Michaels got in the room, kicked everybody else out, shut the door, grabbed him by the neck, and was going to pound the heck out of him. A tear came to his eye. He turned around, started laughing, and walked out. That's Shawn Michaels in a nutshell. As for Ric Flair, I could go on and on. I was there one time.

This is great. We were doing TV tapings at Center Stage in Atlanta. Ric Rude followed Flair around for about an hour and just totally blistered him. He told him he looked like hell and he was friends with the booker, totally blistering him. Finally, Flair had enough, left, and did not come back to center stage until after the tapings had

started. People think I'm making this stuff up. Wahoo McDaniel could not stand him. He told me one time Blackjack Mulligan knocked Flair out with one punch. Blackjack Mulligan could knock anybody out with one punch he's six foot ten weight 350 pounds he's a he's a huge person huge guy jim crockett one time owned the nwa i always liked david and jackie crockett but i only met jim once or twice and everyone thought he was a jerk but flair had him as the best man at his wedding who has the promoter as his best man? Yeah.

It's like having a comedy booker as your best man. The fuck are you doing? Wahoo said back in the day when there were territories all around the country, one of the best ways the boys made sure they wouldn't get fired and wouldn't have to worry about a job from week to week is to borrow money from the promoter. That way the promoter couldn't fire them because he wanted to get his money back out of them wahoo said flair had tax problems and crockett bailed him out so there's no way he was going to get rid of flair wahoo didn't like him did not like his wife he called her the rat from raleigh jesus christ and when i was in wwe it was right after andre the giant died we were doing a raw

in new jersey i was talking to renee goulet who was an agent then it's one of andre the giant's best friends too and a wrestler everybody was pretty bummed out because everybody loved andre i only met him once so i didn't know him that well flair came by and did his usual woo i swear to god renee was so angry he wanted to punch him out he said flair lived like two hours from where andre Okay. Okay. So I guess that means you're done. No. One time in Baltimore, Sting was going to beat Flair for the belt. So Flair pulled Sting aside and Sting thinks he's going to tell him something about the match or give him some big knowledge. And this is what he said to him. And Sting could not believe it. Flair said, when you get married, it's a big deal. When you have kids, it's a big deal. But there's nothing like winning the world title.

Sting came back and grabbed my brother and I and Lex Luger and said, you're not going to believe what Flair just told me. That's just how messed up he was. Because it's fake. Yeah. What the fuck are you talking about? It's all bullshit, man. So then they're kind of like, well, are there anybody that you do have respect for? It seems like you don't respect anybody. And he says, the main guy you you do have respect for? It seems like you don't respect anybody.

And he says, the main guy you have to have respect for is Hogan. Hogan was the man. I remember when I was in WWE, Chief J. Strongbow used to call him the golden goose. He always said he could lay a golden egg. That was the respect that Hogan had because he drew. The greatest is the one who draws the money. Would you rather be a 16-time world champion like Flair or be like Bruno who had a 10-year run like he had and always sold out Madison Square Garden? That's respect, man.

You have to respect guys that set attendance records and drew a lot of money like Stone Cold Steve Austin and, of course, The Rock. Not only for what he's done in wrestling but what he's doing in the movies too, which is unprecedented where a wrestler's been so successful in Hollywood. One of the guys that I respect the most is kurt angle he's an amateur wrestler when he left wwe i think a lot of people thought he was the best wrestler there not only that he's an olympic champion he said uh uh these they said one of the biggest gripes with flair is that he's cut throat backstage with politics he said a lot of people say Hogan's worse with politics. Is he worse? He says, oh, God, no. Flair was 10 times worse.

Oh, Hogan was a man about it. If Hogan didn't like you, he wouldn't bullshit you. He just wouldn't talk to you. He wasn't like one of these guys that would come up to you and be all ha ha and tell you you're the greatest. Then we could go behind closed doors and stab you in the back. Hogan had the best contract because he had creative control, but he had the respect, man, and you got to give him that. Hogan was the master. He went up there, and so he talks about Hogan. Now, I tell you this

because then he's released by TNA, okay? So this is when Hogan and Bischoff had come in to run tna help run it hours after he gets released he tweets this scott steiner can somebody send tna's booking team of pritchard hogan and bischoff videos from uh somebody here booking hogan in a sex tape won't help ratings. What an embarrassment to TNA spike TV brother. Wait, his ex wife said he was gay. So what's who's the guy in the sex tape? That's what he tweets. Okay.

Hogan tweets this couple of days later. Yeah. Wow. Do I feel like a fool? I knew Steiner came to TNA the last tapings then was asked to leave. I heard the news and I was lobbying hard to bring him back the right way because I see money and talent in him. So then he tweets about uh bischoff here instead of getting rid of the guys who are the problem they keep having hogan and bitch off he keeps calling him bitch off he calls him bitch off every time which is what they've always called him for 30 years uh to try and save money elsewhere

then no longer fly in taz and tanae for the tapings do the voiceovers blah blah blah as i tweeted three weeks ago jeremy borash was the only other guy that Bitch Off ripped on social media, which a lot of guys came to his defense and called Eric a piece of shit. So, he realized he got heat, so that's where the segment came from. Where's the thing with Hogan? Okay, here he goes.

Here he goes. Sorry. He goes, Bitch Off said in an interview that I'm going through a midlife crisis and that I'm a drug abuser. Pretty stupid statement since his business partner, Hulk Hogan, recently did a sex tape and he's over 60. And Hogan testified under oath that he did steroids. What the fuck, Bischoff? How stupid are you in these interviews?

You can't deny what I've been saying. So you say stupid shit and bury yourself in Hogan. So he's just saying all this stuff. Then he said Hogan did an interview saying I must be unhappy in my life. Fuck you, Hogan. I'm very happy in my life. This is like Ty from Love During Lockup. Pretty good.

Breaks her own furniture because she's so mad. Then screams, I'm not a hostile person. As she's trying to fight a woman while breaking her own furniture. I'm not a hostile person. As she's trying to fight a woman while breaking her own furniture. I'm not a hostile person. You got to respect Hogan, James. Right? He's the best one. He's the best.

I'm not the one who went on Larry King crying like a bitch and saying that you put a gun in your mouth and was going to pull the trigger. Quit lying because nobody believes your bullshit. You three assholes write the show and you decide who's on the show and stuff with Storm is bullshit too. Storm and I talked over match and the finish, which I didn't change. We both went to get in gear and as I was changing,

I told him I wasn't in the match anymore. I went back to, okay, it's all right. I don't care about that. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You disres... Oh, no. But you don't take my word on it. Ask Storm. He will say the same thing thing you're a lying piece of shit you disrespect the business and everybody in tna

and you think it's weird that i want to knock you unconscious fuck you your day is coming motherfucker pritchard is going to use open fight night to bring in somebody else's son will let you know when i see him remember you see hogan or 609 bitch off change channel wait five minutes and turn back if you fans you you if you fans use your power we can save tna nielsen rating system monitors every show and can't be ignored okay so the feud escalates from there. He then says, Steiner says, haven't tweeted lately because I got a letter from a lawyer representing Hogan and Bischoff basically saying they take my tweets seriously. And if the threats continue, they will talk to take it to law enforcement. Really, Hogan, my tweets scare you.

I've said worse in interviews on TV, LOL. I want to thank you because your actions speak louder than any words I could have spoken. Sorry for scaring you. Maybe I'll challenge you to a game of checkers. Then Hogan said, tried to be cool, not only a clown, but also a liar. Those weren't my lawyers. They were TNA's lawyers. Well, I guess it's time to call my guys in. I really hope he saved his money or is making tons from the independencies working because it's going to get expensive. Maybe he's smart enough to at least figure out when it starts getting real. What a shame.

What a waste of great talent. But you can't tell an idiot they're an idiot. It's really sad when you thought someone was really cool. So this goes back and fucking forth. Oh, by the way, Brooke hogan gets involved in it the daughter yeah um she steiner claimed that tna signed brooke hogan who was at the tv tapings and has appeared a couple of times steiner claimed that the locker room's upset by brooke being signed so brooke says this quote a certain wrestler with a student with stupid mesh hat, that's a Shane thing, needs to shut the fuck up.

Number one, stop overcompensating for your, quote, little problem. That's funny. Number two, just call him a little dick motherfucker. Number two, act like a damn gentleman. Number three, I'd make more money on my back than you ever would get in your whole career shut up you look like a toddler p.s lol if he's such a big scary man don't block someone who's never tweeted you mind you i've only been kind to this completely incoherent shell of a man you really need to call people out to get noticed well you did and now

everyone can see how desperate you truly are stop talking talking crap about my family hashtag turd club hashtag which is the only reason i read that was to give you the hashtag turd club the hashtag and it happened to be turd club turd club tna then takes takes legal action against Scott Steiner and his remarks. They filed a verified complaint in a Nashville court seeking an injunction to prevent more disparaging remarks from Steiner, which is stupid. Then they go from that. Then November 5th, 2012, Scott sues TNA over having to wrestle Jeff Hardy in a, quote, reckless, drunken wrestling match. He's saying that TNA owes him money because $750,000 in damages because they made him wrestle a fucked up Jeff Hardy, which we know from that period he was fucked up in the ring a lot. That's the same period where he came out in that one match and had to leave and all that kind of shit he said he suffered nerve damage in his shoulder and neck uh due to what he called hardy's reckless

drunken wrestling so he does that he then files a second lawsuit for tna for allowing jeff hardy to wrestle under the influence as well so he gets into that um Then he threatens Hulk Hogan. Indirectly. It's Hulk Hogan's being inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. So what they do is, at the San Jose Airport, which is where everybody's flying into for this ceremony, Scott Steiner approaches Hogan's then-wife Jennifer and tells her that he's going to kill Hulk Hogan in the airport. Um, yeah,

I guess that's how, that's how it goes. The Hogan's contacted police and they're investigating Steiner for felony terrorist threats. Uh, Steiner said, typical Hogan. He's just a punk. He said,

I'm not going to dignify hogan's lies i didn't put my hands on her so um he said i didn't even tell her that he said i told her hulk introducing macho man into the hall of fame is bullshit he hated him everybody knew that why did you tell her that yeah that's wow um so then new details came out um about him grabbing her and all this type of shit i guess surveillance footage came out tmz said confirms jennifer's claims that steiner confronted her so yeah officials are investigating him for terroristic threats march 2016 tna's lawsuit against against Scott Steiner is dismissed. Against that, they said that he's not allowed to make disparaging remarks about the company while under contract,

but since you released him, it doesn't matter how far his contract ran, you released him. If you don't pay him, you can't tell him what to say. So that's what it is. 2016, he and his wife, you know what they do now, Scott and his wife? Guess. I'll give you a guess. They had a baby. No.

No. They got divorced. They opened up a Shoney's restaurant. What? Is that the last thing you'd expect? A Shoney's. We're in Oklahoma? Let's pop a Shoney's, Ackworth, Georgia, where they live.

A fucking Shoney's. They open up a Shoney's. He does some advertising. He's in Pittsburgh for, it was pro Legends of Wrestling night at the Pirates game, Pittsburgh Pirates. They had Kurt Angle, Booker T, Tito Santana, the Nasty Boys, Scott Steiner. I don't know what that has to do with anything. He clotheslined a pierogi. A guy dressed up as a pierogi? Yeah, they have a pierogi race, and he clotheslined one of them.

So that's nice. Yeah, me as well. 2017, he does a Ring Rust radio interview, and he says, I think why the fans could relate to me is because when I went out there, you could tell I was telling the truth. You could tell I wasn't bullshitting and that I was putting it on the line, and if people don't like it, then do something about it. A lot of my frustrations here with management and a lot of my frustrations were with candy asses in wrestling, like guys who weren't tough but try to come across as such. Like guys who weren't tough but try to come across as such. People could really tell how I came out and in the way I spoke my mind to the point direct and really no bullshit.

I think that's why people related to what I was saying. They related to me because I was honest and then I went and did fake shit. What are you talking about? Yeah, you know, I told them honest shit and then I pretended to suplex a guy and he let me suplex him. He said, as far as nowadays i feel sorry for guys especially what they have to do in the wwe they're cookie cutters you got 20 30 idiot writers with the two biggest idiots being stephanie mcmahon and hunter mcmahon hunter mcmahon he she calls him uh he calls him i say hunter mcmahon because i can't tell which one is the bigger douche, her or him.

I'll give him her last name because he's a man without a backbone. So you got these two and 30 writers trying to write for all these guys, and they all got the same mindset trying to make these characters. When I came up, it was Macho Man and all these other guys. You had to come up with your own stuff. If you didn't come up with your own stuff, you weren't getting over. So he said, nowadays, everything is too staged. I agree with that. He said, look at the WWE.

Their ratings are horrific. I just, I don't know what to say or what they will do. Go buy another company so you can bury some other guys. They're just a bunch of assholes. When you've got competition, it makes people think outside the box. When the ratings go down, you've got to reach up to a higher level and come up with different ideas. Nowadays, you can put crap out there, and if it doesn't work, who cares? He gets mad at the 2K17 WWE video game.

He doesn't like the game. What's going on in the game? Quote, Goldberg is featured in WWE's new video game, and somehow I'm not in the game. A handful of guys beat Goldberg, and Brock wasn't one of them, but I'm the only'm not in the game. A handful of guys beat Goldberg and Brock wasn't one of them, but I'm the only one not in the game. I would beat that bald-headed bastard in the virtual world also. Goldberg knows this. Maybe Goldberg

didn't want me in the game because he couldn't handle getting beat in two different worlds. What? Is it Goldberg's game or is it EA Sports, man? He had nothing to do with that at all. 2018, he's back in TNA, by the way, after lawsuits both ways. He's 60 years old. Well, yeah, they all said, well, what if we just hire you and give you a contract and we forget everything?

Sure, that's wrestling. So he, wow, he goes off on a couple of tangents. He says he doesn't like Mexicans at one point. Doesn't like Hulk Hogan. He's doing a promo. It's pretty wild. He said about this, this Conan is hanging out with him here. Conan is the Mexican guy.

He wrestles as a Mexican wrestler. He wrestled in Mexico. He said, Conan's going to be doing what he always did in WCW after we finish this match. He's going to be carrying my bags and shining my belt. Maybe my shoes, too. Actually, he might come and cut my grass. I might have all three of them do it, really. I don't know.

I haven't decided yet. There will be Conan cutting my grass. I actually have a tee spot on my lawn where I need to be putting, so they better be just right. I hate golf, but they better be just right. I hate golf, but they better cut my grass. I have a tea thing, so cut it right. But I hate golf.

I hate golf. I just want to watch Mexicans work. He said, that's what I don't understand. Why does Trump want to keep calling out the Mexicans? But who's going to cut the grass? Seriously? I mean,

that's a legitimate question. That's a promo for a pay-per-view it is what the fuck are you talking about man holy shit so 2020 he collapses backstage at an impact show tna um he collapsed he i the everybody says he had to have the defibrillator to come bring him back to life he has a heart issue um he goes in and has to have surgery goes right to the emergency room um so he's you know 57 years old and collapsed with a heart problem that's scary so he's in the emergency room by the way hulk hogan tweets only love for scott steiner may you recover at godspeed to only perfect health god's got you my my brother. HH.

Fucking wrestling. 2021. Sorry, go ahead. Just all that for this. All that for that. Called him the worst thing. Called out your daughter. And wife.

Yeah. In an airport. Grabbed your wife. It's fine now. All under the bridge. 2021, back to wrestling again. Yeah. He wrestled Jerry Lawler

at the Fitzgerald Casino Event Center in Tunica, Mississippi. To get back in the ring. Away from the kids, allegedly? I don't know why Lawler would be in a casino. There's no kids in there. They're not even allowed. Very few teenagers in there. Very few.

You can't even get them in there. March 2022, Scott makes an appearance on the Judge Steve Harvey show. Did you know Steve Harvey had a judge show? I didn't know he had a judge show, but I also know that he's not a fucking judge oh god no jesus christ i don't know what these what these judgments are barring i don't know what how they're what their legal standing is for something that steve harvey said to do i would love it if he took his glasses out got out a big giant book and opened it up well it says section subsection 24.23 of the law states, and he just knew every legal precedent.

How amazing would that be? Just reading statutes. Yeah, not even trying to make jokes, just reading statutes and going, you should be ashamed of yourself, young man. You're like, is that it? And he's like, court's dismissed. Let's go now. Okay. What a weird show. he's like, court's dismissed. Let's go now. Okay.

What a weird show. Both of you write your best five. I'm going to judge who has the best, and then that's the winner of this case. That's who wins. You win. But he raped my dog. You win. You win, I said.

God damn it. Don't make me get the textbook. Steiner appeared as a witness on video to defend independent wrestling promoter Ronnie Gossett, who was on trial for $5,000 in unpaid appearance fees. Gossett was sued by Johnny Fairplay, who is an independent wrestler. Is that a nickname? Yeah, definitely. And didn't pay him for two canceled indie shows. Scott said, quote, I'm Big Papa Pump Scott Steiner, which is how you start your court appearance normally and I've

worked for Ron many times I've got Ronnie's back on this one I worked on three of his shows the first one got canceled the second one got rained out this happens in other sports such as football baseball and golf I mean he can't control the weather and for the third show I was paid in full

Johnny needs to stop being a little bitch if you don't like it wrestle me for the money For the third show, I was paid in full. Johnny needs to stop being a little bitch. If you don't like it, wrestle me for the money. He said that to Steve Harvey? He said that to the court. Then Harvey said, quote, I actually know Big Papa Pump. I strongly suggest you don't wrestle him for the money, he said to Johnny Fairplay. Then Harvey ruled in favor of the plaintiff, and then the guy has to give him five thousand dollars in unpaid fees so he said all that didn't matter 2022 they said hey your

old buddy rick flair is making a comeback and he said he ain't no old friend of mine i would kill him in the ring i'd destroy him yeah everybody wants to see him get beat up well no they don't he's an old man he's an old man then in 2022 they offer the steiner brothers the wwe hall of fame spot which there's a lot attached to that there's a paycheck there's some other gigs there's a bunch of stuff video deals there's interview shits there's all this stuff here so they said oh my god is he gonna accept it but then run amok in the ceremonies and say crazy shit and everything? His nephew is in WWE at this point. Braun Breaker is his nephew.

And he says that, oh, you never know with my Uncle Scott. Who knows what's going to happen here? But I guess he was perfectly professional the whole weekend. And he said, quote, you've got to let it go. You can't harbor all the bad feelings. You've got to grow up. Also, I've got a weak heart go you can't harbor all the bad feelings you've got to grow up also i've got a weak heart i can't do much i can't do much i have a weak heart and i i've said terrible things about these people and they're still gonna pay me it's crazy yeah so there he goes and can't get enough of scott steiner well you can follow him on Twitter at Scott Steiner. He's on there, has 140,000 followers on there.

You can go see him December the 2nd through the 4th time at the Greater Columbus Convention Center. He'll be at Galaxy Con Columbus there, participate in a Q&A on the live stage, sign autographs, and take photos with fans. There he is. That's right now. That's happening right now. And if that's not enough, you need more Scott Steiner, book him yourself because you can. His agent here, it's mn2s.com. And Sharon Elkabas is his agent.

You can contact her, I guess, at 1-305-667-3594. You can book Scott Steiner to, I don't know, he'll do anything. You pay him for him. You better hurry up. He's got a weak heart. He's got a weak heart. You can tell him to come over, call your kid a little bitch at his birthday party or something. You've only got a couple of weeks.

He's going to die so soon. That guy's dying in a year. And we did this episode, which means we've doomed him because we have a weird thing that we do. Now he's going to be dead by the end of the year. In your 2023. Dead by Christmas. Deadpool, put him in it. He's going to die next year.

We killed the poor guy. So there he is. That's Scott Steiner. Like I said, if you're like, well, that didn't have as much crime as Camacho Camacho. No, it didn't. Don't fucking care. Felt like talking about wrestling today. How about that?

Don't give a shit. And he's a lunatic. So watch out out there. Don't get in his way. If you like that show, I don't fucking care. You don't have to tell anybody about it. Whatever. Do what you want to do.

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